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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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And we've got a great show planned for you today.
We decided to do, well, not decided.
We had to fulfill one of the stretch goal targets
for our new office campaign.
So Linus is?
I'm Mother Teresa.
Basically, we promised we would do the WAN show
dressed up as ladies, so we each chose a lady to dress up as.
I went with Mother Teresa, so I got my habit here.
Yep, feeling pretty good about myself right now.
And I went as Kaylee from Firefly.
So this is supposed to be her overalls.
It's actually a sweater, but it's supposed to be her overalls.
And then I have my flowered shirt and not my normal hair.
And there's a hood on it.
Which I don't think there normally is.
But whatever, don't worry about it.
They cut the sleeves off.
That's it, I got that.
The worst costume ever.
You know what the weirdest thing is right now?
Lipstick.
Holy crap.
Yeah, it's kind of awful, isn't it?
It's horrible.
Well, Nick got lip gloss for me, because I'm
a little more modest.
So I don't just go all out with the lipstick.
She probably didn't put anything on.
So guys, here's the crowdfunding campaign page.
So I think the current goal we're working on is for, oh.
You're such a noob.
OK, well.
You're a noob.
There, I muted my computer.
So I think the current goal that we're working on,
we actually just uploaded the Shockcallers channel
super fun video last week.
Wanshow made up his Paul and Kyle was last week.
The old school unboxing is done.
So Wingardium, get the F back to work Luke
is the goal we're working on right now.
So he's going to have to have a life size cutout of Harry
Potter.
Daniel Radcliffe has Harry Potter in his room.
And we'll put some funny speech bubble on him or something.
And then the next one is going to be a Linus Tech Tips LAN
hoodie.
So there you go, guys.
It's newoffice.linustechtips.com.
We've got a great show for you guys today,
including Ghost Cars, now becoming a reality.
And I don't mean ghost cars like cops,
and then you get a ticket because you
were doing something wrong and you
didn't realize they were a cop.
We've also got Steam games are now region locked.
So there is a reason for this that
goes beyond just Valve are bad people
and they want you to pay more for games.
What else we got?
Sorry, I was dealing with getting hair out of my mouth.
I still don't understand how anyone does this.
Eric Schmidt says there's nothing
to worry about with AI because he doesn't understand things.
We'll talk more about that later.
And Sony versus GOP, also known as Guardians of Peace.
There's been a ton of updates with that.
Now, I'm a little confused.
Is it Guardians of Peace, like the little small green things,
or Guardians of Peace, like people not terrorizing
each other?
Guardians of Peace, but they don't necessarily
just what part of it.
Yeah, oh, I understand.
Like we are guardians over part of the world.
Get it?
Oh my God, that actually makes so much sense.
Intro time.
I can't even deal with his hair right now.
I literally can't do it.
For what it's worth, the elastic on this habit headband thing
is really tight.
Like I'm going to be doing this show without oxygen
into my brain.
All right, so our sponsors today are the one and only
Dollar Shave Club.
Oh, that's so adorable.
Look at that.
They put little Christmas junk next to it.
We have Christmas hats, and a Christmas tree,
and a Christmas man.
A Christmas?
You don't call them Christmas men?
Snowman.
No.
It's a snowman.
Dollar Shave Club, shave time, shave money.
Shave yourself.
Shave a snowman.
You look like you could use a shave.
I could probably use a shave right now.
If you're going to make that costume a little more
convincing.
Yeah.
All right, we've also got Intel.
Take advantage of fantastic holiday rebates.
Also in tune with the holiday season with the Christmas hats
and all that kind of stuff.
This is also Christmasy.
What's also?
Oh, yeah, yeah, the lower third is Christmasy and everything.
I know.
It's almost like we should have done this a couple of weeks
ago in order to get our money's worth out of completely redoing
all of our lower thirds in sponsor intros.
Thanks, Nick Van Berkel.
Exactly.
All right, so why don't we just kick things right off here.
So ghost cars are becoming a reality thanks to Jaguar.
So people should probably see this video.
We should probably, yeah, we should probably
show you guys the video.
Basically, the video is pure bullshit,
but it's still worth watching just
so that you can get some idea of what
Jaguar wants you to believe is coming,
even if it has really very little
to do with what's actually going to be coming.
My laptop is just like, yeah, maybe I'll scroll a page
eventually here.
There we go.
Maybe I'll load this YouTube's.
I got to stop this stream.
What is it?
What is it doing?
Your laptop is just not a happy laptop right now.
I know.
This is not good.
OK, thank you.
Stop streaming.
And start streaming.
All right, here, I'll show you guys this.
Here we go.
All right, so 360 degree urban blah, blah, blah, windscreen.
OK, so basically, the concept they're trying to sell us here
is that the pillars, so like this pillar here, for example,
will be able to turn transparent by, well,
basically by replacing the top material here with screens
so that you'll effectively be able to see through them.
So you'd have cameras on the outside of the car,
and then you'd have the pillars be covered in screen
so you can kind of see through them.
Now, there's a couple of reasons that this just flat out
straight up won't work.
And one of them is that the way that your eyes focus
is going to change.
So you won't be just be able to look out the windshield
and look to the left without refocusing
your eyes on the pillar because the object will
be much closer to you.
So this is kind of cool too.
You can see that they didn't want to spend
too much on the VFX here, so they only
had that go transparent for a very short period of time.
I did kind of notice that too.
But I think what it was actually trying to point out there
is when you look at stuff, it will.
Yes, it will be.
It's not always trying to be transparent.
Which is yet another potential point of failure
for something like this if it were to work.
This one's cool.
So the idea is that there's a ghost car
in the same sense as when you're playing a racing game,
there's a ghost car.
You shouldn't race against it.
I'm sure that's not what Jaguar is endorsing here.
But the idea is that instead of your traditional
turn-by-turn navigation, you just follow this
imaginary car in front of you.
Which doesn't seem like a super great implementation.
I'd almost wish that they went with the
actual kind of racing game thing that I see
a lot of racing games actually set up,
which is where they just show the arrows around turns
and stuff.
Yep, lines on the road.
Lines on the road, arrows around turns.
Show a grid on the road in front of you
and be like, go along this curve.
Something like that, not a car in front of you,
which usually represents nothing.
And it just says like, follow me, follow me, follow me,
follow me repeatedly, which is gonna get crazy in a way.
And the thing about a car in front of you is that
that means, again, it's an eye-focus thing.
You're looking right in front of you.
That's a very myopic way to drive.
That's not going to increase your situational awareness,
where looking further off into the distance
is gonna let you take better advantage
of your peripheral vision.
And it's gonna allow you to spot hazards
more easily on the road.
And the car is intentionally right in front of you.
The road lines and potentially arrows and stuff
that Linus and I were just talking about
are gonna be kind of off to the side
or below your main vision.
So you'd see it out of your peripherals
instead of it being the direct thing that you're looking at.
So it shouldn't actually distract you from driving.
That's another problem that I noticed with the pillars
is unless they do like some pretty intense
eye movement detection,
a lot of times that you're looking at certain pillars,
it might not know that you're actually looking at them.
So it might not click in.
This is, I don't know what Twitch is doing.
Your laptop, I think, is the problem.
It's like a real problem though.
So I was trying to participate in Twitch chat there.
That did not happen.
All right, so.
I think there's more people in Twitch chat
saying that I'm prettier than you, so.
Well, I'm a nun.
We're not supposed to be, you know,
putting it on for everyone to see or something.
Oh, speaking of putting it out there
for everyone to see,
the channel Super Fun going up this weekend
is freaking awesome.
It involves, it doesn't involve fake boobs,
but not in any way that you could possibly be expecting.
You will not see this coming.
There's gonna be that one dude
who like guesses the exact thing.
No, there isn't.
Okay.
No, I really don't.
Challenge accepted.
Everyone post on the forum what you think it's gonna be.
I sincerely. And then go watch the video
and figure out if it's gonna be it or not.
I sincerely doubt it.
All right, let's go ahead and move into our next topic here.
Assassin. Oh, one thing that I want to talk about
before we move forward.
Hold on, X-Tag Slayer X was the one
who posted the last topic on the forum.
Thank you.
I still want to talk about the last topic.
So with this kind of stuff coming to cars,
more technology coming into cars now,
I think it would be pretty cool
if tech reviewers started reviewing cars.
And I think car companies need to kind of figure this out too
because standard traditional car guys,
when it's gonna start coming to electrical cars
and cars with beams that you can see through
and projected cars on the road and 360 degrees sonar
and like all this other kind of stuff
that cars are starting to get,
I think they need tech guys on it.
So at CES, I know I'm gonna at least try
to check out a couple cars
and see if we can get some cool technology overviews.
I'm not gonna be looking into engines.
I'm not gonna be looking into anything like that,
but I'll just look into like,
oh, it has this cool tech or that cool tech.
Yeah, cars are becoming something
that the typical gear head is not necessarily,
they'll probably look at this kind of stuff
the same way that a hardcore audio file
is gonna look at 3D positional software sound
on something like a headset.
Well, hold on a second.
Does it sound good or not?
These guys are gonna be like,
well, hold on, does it handle well or not?
Whereas guys like us are gonna be like,
yeah, what OS is that Android dash system running
and how does it-
I think we need kind of both teams here.
They can check out the engine and all that kind of stuff
or the motor, I guess, depending on which anyways.
Speaking of which-
Speaking of cars not even needing engines anymore.
All right, so our next topic here
is the Assassin's Creed creator reveals
a AAA historical action survival game.
Wow.
Just in case you haven't heard of one of those before.
So this was posted on the forum by,
I would love to tell you,
but my laptop really is a broken piece of crap right now.
Rohif Kumar SP.
Yeah, and the original article here is from GameSpot.
Do you wanna go ahead and drop that in the chat?
Oh yes, I forgot to do the last one.
Okay, maybe drop them both in there.
Or I don't think you can do them back to back, can you?
It's not a good idea.
Okay, cool. I will just do this one.
Sure.
Boom. There we go.
All right, so, oh, we're looking at the dock.
Nothing, there we go.
All right, so Panache Digital Games.
What's the scoop on this?
So this guy left after he didn't like the direction
that AC was going.
I believe this was after the series of AC2 games.
So after Ezio, I believe this is when he left,
so one might correct me on that.
He then went to THQ, where he started to develop 1666,
a new game fairly similar to Assassin's Creed.
And then we all know what happened to THQ.
Yes, and then Ubisoft absorbed that portion of them,
taking 1666 and taking him back.
He promptly left again and is now like,
screw all you guys.
I'm gonna make my own freaking studio.
So has started Panache Games.
I hope I'm pronouncing that right, but yeah.
I think it's Panache.
So yeah, there's no official name for it yet.
No one actually knows if he was able to buy back
like the IP of 1666 or any of that kind of stuff,
because I think he might've been trying.
So yeah, we know he's going to continue trying,
whether or not, this wig, man,
whether or not he has to restart completely,
or he's able to continue on his previous work.
By buying back the rights for 1666 or something
along those lines.
Whether it's going to be 1666,
we don't know any of that kind of stuff,
but yeah, he's doing it.
And he's referenced more than once
that he thinks that positive change can happen
throughout the world through video games,
which I kind of actually do agree with.
And he thinks a very good platform for that
is AAA titles because they're very wide reaching.
And looking at how much I liked Assassin's Creed 2
and all of its iterations,
I would be happy if he makes something
to that caliber again.
All right, so this is really interesting.
I always feel a little bit weird
when we're reporting on our sponsors,
especially when it's positive,
because I feel like I should be trying
to find something crappy about it.
Well, it's not in Canada.
Yeah, that's crappy.
Okay, there, the crappiest thing about this next news item
is that I can't get it.
So the original article is on tomshardware.com.
I don't know if you posted that yet.
And it was posted by Luciferia, whatever.
It was posted on the forum.
So ting.com, you know those guys
that they do some advertising through us
for their mobile service where they actually buy wholesale,
they buy wholesale from Sprint,
and then they resell on like a pay-per-use
sort of plan with their customers
instead of asking people to sort of commit
to X number of minutes per month or whatever else.
So they've got their whole mobile thing going on,
and now they are expanding their service
to provide gigabit internet.
How fascinating.
So they jumped in on a company by,
which I think they jumped in at like 70%
of Blue Ridge Networks,
and Blue Ridge Networks was already offering
gigabit internet, but it was, what is it,
100 megabit per second and 50 megabit per,
100 megabit per second down,
50 megabit per second up for around $500.
And the new tier should be that same kind of deal,
but around $100 a month, which is pretty insane actually.
So hold on a second.
According to Blue Ridge's announcement,
the company will have pricing plans for gigabit internet
with rates under $100 with budget-oriented plans
that could be even lower than the initial offering.
Additionally, Blue Ridge will honor prices
and certain plans for a limited time
for customers who upgrade to Ting internet.
Pretty awesome.
The company also has plans to provide
a television package in 2015 as well.
How interesting.
Looks like if you sit on your ass
and don't upgrade infrastructure,
other people who think that that money
that you were making looks pretty good
might actually invest and compete with you.
Whoa, AT&T.
Holy actual crap.
And with the pricing structure that Ting is setting up,
like please just wreck AT&T.
And one really interesting thing too
is right when this happened,
a whole bunch of people local around Blue whatever networks
have now shown interest in the Ting one,
Blue Ridge internet works because it's much cheaper.
So it's showing that like people are interested.
AT&T being like, why do you guys
need above six megabit per second?
Because people want it,
because the internet shouldn't be slow anymore.
It doesn't make any sense.
So yeah, I mean, it really does feel like companies
should be able to understand that we've seen this happen
over and over and over again.
I mean, when's the last time that you bought Fujifilm?
It's like Kodak, what happened to Kodak?
We think digital is a phase, it's gonna pass.
They said that, we think it's a fad.
It's like, okay, well, where are you today?
It's like, if you sit there and do not invest
in whatever people are actually wanting to buy,
if you're content to sit there on ass, not innovating,
waiting for, you know, when's the last time?
You know what?
We can complain all we want about sort of
government sanctioned monopolies and all that kind of stuff
but eventually they all fail.
Eventually competition does happen,
even if it takes a little while,
even if it takes a new technology
in order for it to happen,
or even if it takes municipalities
going and building their own infrastructure
for their own residents to have better access
to the services that they want.
Sitting there and refusing to innovate
has never worked for anyone ever.
Someone will come in and crush you.
Not once.
It happened with Apple and Microsoft.
Apple and Microsoft stepped up in a range
where no one was actually,
it was like, oh yeah, people don't need consumer computers
and then look at like two massive companies nowadays
because they stepped up and decided
that they were gonna do something about it.
So yeah, best of luck to you, Ting.
Sure wish that you would go to Canada.
Come to freaking Canada,
because aren't you from here?
What the hell?
Yeah.
So anyway, so right,
so their ISP expansion will be somewhere
in the neighborhood of Charlottesville, Virginia.
So lucky you guys.
I can't wait till we have faster offerings here,
even at the new place that we're looking to move into.
The only plans that we have available
are business versions
of the same residential class connection speed,
except you get a couple IPs
and I think a better uptime guarantee
or something like that.
Yeah, I think they just like give you
some of your money back if they go down.
It's like, oh, okay, well.
But you just charged me more for the same service.
Not better.
Anyways, are we gonna tackle this big one now?
Yeah, sure, why don't we jump right into this?
So this was posted by AlexP10v2 on the forum.
Original articles here,
The Verge has been doing a lot of coverage of this.
We've also got Gizmodo and NPR on here.
And like everyone else.
And everyone and their dog
because this is so much deeper than tech news
or movie news or anything.
So it's like basically every realm of news
you could possibly imagine.
Yeah, politics, tech,
politics and tech, maybe two.
Anyways, so the GOP has quote unquote won.
The interview has been pulled,
not only because of Sony.
A lot of different movie theaters
have publicly said that they would not show it
even if it wasn't pulled by Sony.
Now that isn't to say that there was a very large amount
of smaller, maybe independent level movie theaters
that weren't willing to show it
and actually asked to show it.
I know George RR Martin actually offered up his own theater
and was like, yes, show it here, please.
You guys are cowards, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's George RR Martin,
so he obviously didn't pull any punches.
And was like, yes, show it at my theater, please.
Even if it's a terrible movie,
I will continue showing it, it doesn't matter.
So you skipped a step.
This is in response to the hackers
basically threatening terror attacks
anywhere where the movie was shown, including the premiere
and warning that even if you live nearby,
you better go away anytime that the video's being shown.
They actually referred to the September 11th, 2001 attack
on the World Trade Center, so big deal overall.
And I understand.
I understand pretty much every angle, Ashley.
It makes sense.
You don't want to have your employees' personal lives
get screwed up. You don't want to endanger
your employees.
Because that's one big thing
that the GOP has been attacking.
We will release, I don't know if this is the right terminology
but SIN number, like your social,
I don't know what it is.
Social security number.
Yeah, that one.
Yeah, they did.
They released the social security numbers,
home addresses, previous salaries.
It's bad for your employees.
It's bad for people that you work with.
It's bad for your own company.
It's very, very bad.
And movie theaters were essentially
being threatened to be blown up.
Because the GOP is like, if you go there,
you're putting yourself at risk.
If you live near there, you should leave your home.
Like, they're being pretty serious.
As a company that owns a movie theater,
you probably don't want your entire massive investment
to be blown up because you showed one movie.
Yep.
I get all that.
You don't want your customers to die
because they came to a movie at your theater.
Like, I get it, but with that said,
so I don't remember who was first,
but basically the major theaters pulled out
kind of one by one.
And then when enough of them pulled out,
Sony pulled the whole thing.
And the problem with this is that had everyone showed it
and had everyone gone to see it,
there would have been no way for the GOP
to attack that many targets.
So solidarity one way or the other.
It was total victory or total loss in this case.
And there's an update from today, actually.
Obama has criticized Sony for canceling the release,
calling it a mistake.
We cannot have a society in which some dictator someplace
can start imposing censorship here in the United States.
So the president in his year-end news conference
added that he was sympathetic about their concerns,
but said, I wish they would have spoken to me first.
Because this is not just about Sony at this point.
This is about, like he said, some dictator someplace,
basically saying what movie you can or cannot put
in your theater in the United States of America,
which is wow.
There was a very thinly veiled threat in response
saying that the United States might have to find some way
to respond in kind.
At the same time, like this happened and is very true
and I'm sure they will at some time.
But where is it in here?
I can't find it in here.
But there's somewhere else at the same time
where they're saying, this also might have been designed
to provoke an attack and we have to be aware about that
at the same time.
So they know this, they're being aware of that,
which I think is really good because it was very likely
that it was intended to provoke something.
I must have been trying to do something.
This is a really ugly situation.
I know places like T Fury are massively capitalizing
on this, T Fury's daily T-shirts right now
are all about the interview.
One of them is like, I wanted to go see a crappy movie
and now all I have is this T-shirt
and it shows Seth Rogen's face.
The other one is like, I can't remember exactly how it goes,
but like I for one bow down to our new benevolent
North Korean leaders and it like shows the interview stuff.
Like it's, oh wow, it's yeah.
I'm like, I'm sure T Fury is making a whole bunch
of money off that and that's why they did it.
But it's interesting how spoken about this is
because it's a huge issue.
I know George R.R. Martin brought up stuff like,
I think this was kind of during World War II,
although I don't know a ton about this,
but I think it was called The Dictator
and it was with Charlie Chaplin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, okay, and they still screened that.
I don't know if that's necessarily 100%
of a fair comparison because of what's happening.
Yeah, I haven't seen The Dictator, unfortunately.
I haven't seen The Dictator.
It's obviously a very different type of attack
that's happening, yada, yada, yada.
But it is a very interesting comparison
and I do recommend that you go look up
what George R.R. Martin has to say about this.
The big problem here is not what the GOP won today
because this just looks like a test.
This almost doesn't matter.
Yeah, it's just a stupid movie at the end of the day,
but this looked like a test.
Can we make these mega corporations bend to our will
and can we incite fear?
I mean, it's terrorism.
That's how terrorism works.
If you're making people afraid, then you're effective.
And so basically their message from today
was it's very wise you have made the decision
to cancel the release of the interview.
It will be very useful for you.
We will ensure the security of your data
unless you make additional trouble.
And that's exactly the point.
So now Sony is completely under the thumb
of the GOP forever.
That's it, they won.
And at some point they're bound to do something
and that information will leak eventually.
So they haven't safeguarded anything.
All they've done is enabled a round two later
as opposed to getting it all out in the open now.
And like when you have people
like the President of the United States being like,
dude, just call me, you should probably do that
because they're gonna step behind you a lot
because this is super important for
not even just the States.
Even that might not be enough though.
I mean, there's so many issues
with the information being leaked from Sony
that are nothing to do with anything
Barack Obama can help with.
Well, a lot of it is gonna be financial pain.
Yeah.
And you could help with that.
There'll be some financial pain,
but the financial, like I mean,
any support the United States is gonna give
is gonna be temporary and the impact on them as a company
from all this information being leaked
could last 10 years, 20 years.
It's one of the biggest deals
that's happened politically in a long time.
I'm pretty sure that they could step up appropriately.
I doubt it.
I personally completely disagree with that.
I think that for them to, I mean, yes,
I think they should have probably consulted
with the US government, but I don't think anything
that they could have told them would have helped.
It's not about what they could have told them
or done anything.
It has nothing to do with it.
I mean, what are they gonna do short of, you know,
an airstrike on where the GOP is holding the data?
It doesn't matter.
The data's gonna go out.
Right, I know that.
But what I mean is that nothing the US said or did
was gonna change Sony's decision-making process here.
They just need to give them money.
Right, but that's not gonna, okay,
that's not gonna change the impact of that data
eventually being leaked.
No one's gonna wanna.
So don't go for an eventual leak.
Drop it all now, essentially consider
all of those projects abandoned,
and then get financial support from the US government.
I think that's a very simplistic view,
and I really doubt that that is how that conversation
would have gone down.
A number of folks are calling for Sony
to release the interview online.
Sony Pictures CEO, Michael Linton,
says that while Sony has every desire
to release the film online isn't the immediate option.
So we are considering some options as it stands right now.
While there have been a number of suggestions,
there has not been one major VOD distributor,
so video on demand distributor,
one major e-commerce site that has stepped forward
and said they're willing to distribute the movie for us.
So, wow.
Again, we don't have that direct interface
with the American public.
I mean, one option, just throwing it out
in case you're watching, Mike,
would be the brand new Bittorrent paywall option.
Hey, hey, you do have an interface directly
with the American public.
In fact, the public all over the world.
All you have to do-
It's hosted on a website.
It really doesn't matter.
All you have to do is, well, no, I see what they mean.
They probably don't have the infrastructure for that.
Like if a billion people hit that page at the same time.
They host PSN.
How do they not have the infrastructure for that?
How often does PSN go down?
Because of hackers.
Right.
So go behind someone else's wall.
They've obviously been using AWS and other services.
Okay, yes.
But that's not a better option than just torrenting it.
I, okay.
Because you can't attack a torrent.
I wasn't saying it was a better option.
Oh, okay.
Because I-
You're very aggressive right now.
This is a simplistic view, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Well, I really think it is.
I think you're wrong as well, and that's okay.
This is a talk show.
We talk about things.
Yes, we do.
Calm down, Mr. Sir.
All right, so what's our,
I guess there's not really much else to say.
The GOP won.
There's the North Green stuff.
Oh, yeah, okay.
There's like three, this was done in three topics
for whatever reason. Right.
So I'm gonna skim over one pretty quickly,
which is Reddit has started banning users.
Have you posted that link yet?
No.
Okay, this one was posted by XTankSlayerX.
Reddit has started banning users
that are leaking some of the stuff
that has been leaked from the GOP.
So a subreddit called Sony GOP was banned
and a moderator for that page called Sony GOP
was also banned, and I'm sure there was other ones as well.
This is not a new thing.
This happened also during the fappening
where they closed certain stuff like that.
They're not closing discussions about it.
They're closing information that is leaked to do with this,
like not information that is leaked from the GOP.
They're getting rid of that, essentially.
Yeah, so it's one of those things
where Reddit is one of those places on the internet
where there's not a whole ton of censorship,
but I have to completely agree with what they're doing here.
It seems like the only real appropriate response.
You can't stop people from talking about it
and you shouldn't, because it's really important,
but you have to stop people
from leaking the personal information
of the people whose lives have been damaged by this incident
that ultimately probably had nothing to do with them.
Yeah.
Nothing they did personally could have possibly merited.
Considering how big Sony is
and how many different things they do.
Yeah, and the number of people whose information was leaked
is far more than would have worked on an individual film,
like even possible for all these people
to have worked on a single film, so.
Yep.
Now, I think the next one is,
I believe it was the FBI, but there's a bill,
yeah, the FBI has essentially said that it was North Korea.
Well, hold on a second.
Let's be clear.
It was a group working on behalf
of the North Korean government.
Yeah.
So there's some people have brought up,
so like, yeah, there's people
that have brought up different things.
They're like, change the topic.
What do you mean change the topic?
No, it's our show, go.
Wow, he is mad today.
There's people that have brought up stuff
like it's very easy to potentially translate your code
to make it seem like you're someone else,
because something that they brought up
was that some of the tools and the language
and yada yada was in previous attacks
against South Korea from North Korea.
Right.
But people brought up that you can try
to masquerade as someone else.
That's one of the best defenses
you can possibly have as a hacker.
But I'm kind of assuming that the FBI
probably has more information than other people,
so they might know for sure.
Well, they're spying on absolutely everyone,
not the FBI specifically, but I'm sure, you know,
Joe at the FBI knows like Jim at the NSA.
They have lunch and brunches and whatnot.
Over tea and lipstick conversations.
Now, anyone at the FBI whose name is Joe is like.
Oh, how does line detectives know about our brunches?
Anyways, yeah, so that's not honestly,
I don't think there's a ton to talk about that,
but this has more information for like,
the states is planning to retaliate in some form.
Proportional response.
Yes.
Serious national security matter.
They may believe that a response from us
in one fashion or another would be advantageous to them.
So, you know, we're gonna make sure
we're treading carefully here.
Deeply concerned about the destructive nature
of this attack on a private sector entity
and the ordinary citizens who work there.
North Korea is attacking our infrastructure.
It is also attacking our values.
The decision to pull the interview from theaters,
unfortunately, is a North Korean victory
in its attacks on our freedom.
We better respond comprehensively
to defend freedom of speech in the face
of terrorist threats and cyber attacks.
Pretty intense.
At the same time, this is where the note
that I was looking for previously was.
At the same time, they have noted that such attackers
are often looking to provoke a response.
So they're probably looking for a response
and the United States is going to be giving them one.
So they're going to, I guess, with that knowledge in mind,
try to make sure that it is
the most appropriate thing possible.
It's gonna be an interesting period of time.
Yes, it is.
And that last one was posted on the forum
by XTankSlayerX.
Did you post that in the chat?
I did, yes.
All right, so we've got our next topic here.
It looks like we have every source for this topic
other than the actual Valve page.
So you'll have to forgive us for that.
But Steam games slash gifting is now region locked.
Do at least partially to the collapse
of the Russian currency, the ruble.
So I suspect that Valve's just been looking for an excuse
to do this for quite some time
because every other industry eventually figures out
that if they wanna have regionalized pricing,
especially for a digital item,
they're going to have to lock things down somewhat.
It's still something that I,
that I hate a lot,
but I understand why they're doing it
because you don't want gaming
to just be completely unaffordable to anyone in Russia
because Valve is a US based company
and they have to pay in their deteriorating ruble currency.
But then you also don't want certain websites
just reselling buckets and buckets of keys
because they can get them super cheaply somewhere
and sell them elsewhere where they're more expensive.
So this was gonna happen eventually.
I think that Valve has actually managed
the potential community poop storm pretty darn well.
I mean, it helps that Valve probably has like, you know.
It helps that it's happening during the winter sale.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Someone's like, yay, Valve.
Oh, that thing happened.
Yay, Valve.
So they probably timed it right.
Valve probably has a couple oopsies in their pocket
in terms of things the community is gonna forgive them for
if they kind of screw them up.
So basically Steam will no longer allow packages
to be unpacked on an account if gifted or traded
from a lower priced region to a higher priced region.
So if Buddy in the US wants to buy a game
for Buddy in Russia, then that will work,
which I guess is a compromise.
So there's that.
But Russia, Southeast Asia, South America, Turkey,
those countries will not be able to go the other direction.
So you won't be able to buy a game for Buddy
in other countries if you're from there.
So there you have it.
The impact of this is more than you might initially think
because especially with the way that entire companies
have sprung up around discount games
based on buying from one region and selling to another one,
their entire business model.
Literally just disappeared.
Completely killed, one fell swoop from Valve
and Valve is going to be able to increase their revenues
as a direct result of this right here
because you won't be able to find that triple A game
on launch day for $10 less
than you would have otherwise had to pay.
You might have to wait a week.
Which I guess actually-
You might have to wait a week.
Speaking of which-
The drop in price, yeah, we have a topic about that.
Do we?
Yeah, GameStop-
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
GameStop president Tony Bartell,
this is posted by Mark 21200,
says that digital games are too cheap.
Oh no, like I gotta get down there.
If you put in a T, you would have had it.
A T?
Yeah, GameStop.
Right?
See, like I don't know why that's not working.
Wait, why aren't you able to-
That's weird.
I don't know.
Yeah, no space.
That's weird, you're on the right dock.
Yeah, like I don't know why I can't find it.
Can you get that link then?
Yeah, sure, I'll post the link for you guys
in the Twitch chat anyway.
I know about it, I've read about this.
So, okay, I have to preface this a little bit.
I know on the show a lot of the time
that I'm up here defending physical games.
I'm not gonna defend this dude.
Yeah, we've had enough arguments on this show.
Yeah, well, no-
I will wreck you when it comes to physical games.
Well, no, I like physical games,
but I don't think that means that they should be-
I like physical games too.
It's probably the best show to possibly do that on.
I can't defend the dude trying to say
that digital games are too cheap.
Like, I don't care.
My defense for physical games is stuff
like when there's a 50 gigabyte game
and someone has a bad internet connection.
Yeah.
Then go buy the physical game.
And I hope that that option is always there.
Even if it just becomes GameStop
doesn't freaking exist anymore
and you have to go order your game on Amazon,
Amazon does a pretty good job
of making sure that you get your game on release day.
So that can solve that problem.
I don't care about being able to walk into the store.
My video game store locally will probably always exist
because they're into buying and selling old retro games.
They have multifaceted their business very well.
That's why they still exist.
So it won't be until digital only games are retro
that they'll really run into trouble.
By that time, the owners,
because it's just like a mom and pop shop,
will probably not be interested
in running willow video anymore anyway.
So I'm not worried about the one store
that I actually care about.
And I'm not super worried
about physical games completely disappearing.
Are you worried about GameStop?
No.
I'm not worried about GameStop.
And this dude's just wrong.
He does have a valid point.
And this does tie into our segue here
where the joke was a triple A title comes out for $59.99
and the next week it's gonna be $49.99.
Modernization Beyond Earth,
got like a 50% discount on winter sale or something.
It's been out for what, a month?
Not that long.
Not even a month, I think.
So he does make a couple of good points.
So the average sale price,
so a recent survey showed
that the average price a consumer pays
for a triple A title download is $22.
Okay, there's no sources for any of this.
No sources for any of that.
Although I wouldn't think
that that's completely out of the question,
especially if you were to-
It came out late October.
Especially if you were to factor in,
okay, so just over a month for Civilization Beyond Earth,
especially if you were to factor in
that many triple A titles are gonna be older ones
that are being sold bundled with other things
or at five bucks or whatever the case may be.
I totally believe that number.
And when asked how much they would be willing to pay,
apparently, this is no source for this,
consumers said approximately $35.
Although I kind of believe that number too.
I'd pay 30, 40 bucks for a triple A game.
I think the most expensive one I bought
in the last little while was South Park Stick of Truth.
That thing held its freaking price forever.
I was sitting and waiting.
I think it's like finally on sale now.
Is it finally on sale?
Well, whatever.
I played it already.
Yeah, no, I know.
That one took a while for sure.
Screw you, Trey Parker and Matt Stone.
I'm just kidding, I love you guys.
But the last episode or the last season
of South Park really sucked.
I don't, no matter how wonderful it is,
I don't think games should be discounted so quickly
because I think you're ripping profits away from companies.
Anyways, that's up to them.
So he has a point.
But that's up to them.
But he has a point about the fact
that digital games can be discounted so readily
and so easily just on a whim.
Oh, it's not moving fast enough.
Oh, discount the whole thing.
Ignoring that traditional supply chain
and process that existed for discounting.
It potentially does damage publishers and developers.
But he's not talking about this out of concern for them.
No.
It has nothing to do with that.
It has to do with concern for his own business.
Because if he cared that much about the due process
of dropping the prices of games or whatever else,
then why weren't we hearing from him?
Back when NCIX was trying to sell hard copies
of video games five years ago
and didn't get any price protection
when there were price drops and all this stuff
that GameStop definitely does get to enjoy.
At least for the limited amount of time
that they will still be around.
So I guess that's all we really have to say about that.
That's all I have to say about that.
Yeah, I'm good and done.
Good luck with that, GameStop.
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
I don't know why I couldn't find that topic.
Thatcoolbluekid posted on the forum.
This is from kitguru.net.
Also assassinscreed.ubi.com.
Are you posting this in the forum?
I'll go ahead and throw it up on the screen.
I'm gonna try and find this one again.
Is your just, like search not working?
Oh no, you got this, you got this.
All right.
So Linus's screen, patch four on hold.
My favorite quote from this.
Can I just quote something real quick?
You may.
I think it's in the notes.
You may.
Ubisoft, rigorous quality control
is of paramount importance to us.
And your feedback over these past weeks
has indicated that it is important to you as well.
We are choosing to hold off until we can give you
the improvements we've promised.
We are committing to delivering
major performance improvements,
which requires that we refurbish the Paris map
and it will be a few more days
until we can hit that high level of quality
our players deserve.
Okay, can I have some fun with this for a little bit?
Sure.
Because you got to read it and that was pretty fun.
Yep, go for it.
Okay, so first up Ubisoft,
choosing to hold off until we can give you
what we promised,
that's the kind of thing you do before you take the money.
Not when people already have the product
and you get to kind of sit on ass.
Like I am usually the first one
to applaud a game developer or publisher
or anyone involved in the process
of releasing a game to the public.
I'm the first one to applaud them
for holding off until it's ready.
That just does not apply to patches.
Patches are supposed to be dealt with quick, fast
and putting them on hold is super bad.
Okay, and the second one,
the second one that's really fun.
We are committed to blah, blah, blah,
major performance improvements,
which requires that we refurbish the Paris map.
Now, what other map is there in Assassin's Creed Unity?
Can I just, can I get some clarification on this?
I'm sorry, is there a London map?
Is there a Zimbabwe, you know, map?
Zimbabwe map.
Yeah, is there like a-
They go on vacation sometimes.
Is there a Tokyo map?
What other map is there?
The way that they spun this is hilarious.
We have to refurbish our Paris map.
You mean the entire game world?
Is that what you mean to say Ubisoft?
You have to refurbish the entire game world?
Cause I can understand why the patch is on hold
if that's what you need to do.
And I think we all know that that's what you need to do
because the game was limited
because there's way too many draw calls on the PC
and they couldn't be arsed to fix it.
Even though some idiot with a podcast already knows
that that's the problem.
And yes, it's because of light bouncing and stuff
but the draw calls is the base essential part
of the problem.
634 comments, this might be fun.
Oh God.
We need like another,
because like I think they're done digging.
I think we need like a hat, like a dunce cap or something.
Look at this, the first cap,
or the first post is already excellent.
Oh man, how about more forewarning next time?
I mean, you tell us on the day it was supposed
to be released, that it won't be coming out.
Surely you knew beforehand that you were running behind.
Oh no.
I'm also disappointed that the console versions
have been patched and the PC one hasn't.
Yeah, that's from Mork on the Assassin's Creed.
Mo Zero RK, Mo Zero Rk.
Yeah, he tried to spell, or she, and it didn't work.
Nope.
This is just more of a like sciencey news thing,
not really gaming, definitely tech.
The Mars Rover Curiosity confirms organics on Mars.
Now, they did find trace,
oh, this was posted by DevilishBooster on the forum,
by the way.
I'll get that link in chat, you guys.
Yeah, so they did find traces before,
but it was considered to be unconfirmed
because they weren't sure if the rover itself
had brought the things that they found before.
Well, now they are definitely sure.
So whether they were delivered by carbon rich meteorites
or actually formed on Mars is something that could take
years and most definitely new equipment
on the surface of Mars in order for them
to actually ascertain for certain.
Can you say ascertain for certain?
Because certain is kind of the root of the word ascertain.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, I don't think so.
You heard it here first, ascertain for certain.
Mars is an extremely volatile place.
It's gonna be hard for that kind of stuff to survive,
which makes sense, which is why a lot of people think
that it's probably from asteroids,
but there's also the interesting things
of the methane gas very specifically,
so it could be spurting up from below the surface.
That could be something there.
Pretty interesting.
Yeah, it's exciting.
I mean, who knows?
Okay.
I just kind of wanted to have this topic in here
so people could hear about it
and then research it more on their own.
If Musk gets his way and sends like,
how many people do you want to send, like a million?
You want to send a million
and I know it's gonna be like spurt, spurt, spurt, spurt,
and then it's supposed to be bigger ones after that.
Not all at once.
The end goal is having like a million people on Mars.
Okay, would you go to Mars?
I haven't talked to you about this.
Have I talked to you about this?
I don't think so.
I have tried contacting him to see if I could sign up.
Okay.
So.
Is there any reason that Linus Media Group
couldn't run from Mars?
What would be the-
By the time that he put a million people there,
it would probably be fine.
Like what kind of,
cause okay, like all we have really have to do
is we would have to,
oh yeah, if we're gonna make videos about the latest CPU,
that'll be a bit of an issue.
Not necessarily, because you know that like that robot thing
that kind of rolls around and has the screen on it?
Just get way better versions of that.
VR suits,
wear like that control VR thing that we had,
and then just go in little rooms
and you can just do things on Earth.
It'd be latency issues, but it could work.
Posted by DirtyHarry on the forum,
the original article here is from Mashable.com.
Double amputee controls bionic arms with his minds.
The best segue that ever happened
in the history of Wansho.
So this is pretty freaking cool.
Now to be clear guys,
it's not, he's not gonna be playing racquetball yet.
Did you post the link already?
No, got it.
He's not gonna be playing racquetball anytime soon,
but, and like he kinda,
he has to move the shoulder, then the elbow, then the wrist.
Which I wanted to bring this up
in like a design standpoint,
that's actually a really good place to start from,
because then you just start making things more fluid.
Having all of those already working is extremely important.
It's required extensive training.
It is not by any means finished yet,
but the team is hoping that they will be able
to send him home with a pair of working arms
by the end of this project, which is amazing.
I mean, this is some Star Wars stuff right here.
This is like Mark Hamill, End of Empire,
the Empire Strikes Back type stuff going on here.
Pretty freaking cool.
Absolutely incredible.
And he's moving it with his mind.
Like he had to undergo some painful stuff
in order to make this happen.
What do they call it?
He had to reawaken nerves and stuff.
Re-enervation or something?
Re-enervation, yeah, I think so.
It sounds awful.
It does.
It does not sound good at all.
And they had to also, where is it?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, reawaken, but there's a different word for it.
Re-enervating, there we go.
Yeah, it's no good.
And they're using some of the nerve endings
from his chest as well.
They've brought some over,
which that probably wasn't exactly
a fantastic process either, so I don't know.
Yeah, what a horrifying process it is right now.
Like can you, I mean, think of the implications
for generations to come though.
That's fantastic.
Yeah, this is probably one of the most important things
going on right now.
I know there's stuff that we're probably
gonna talk about later with like the Hyperloop
and some other really cool things,
but being able to re-enable people
that have lost or damaged limbs very heavily is really cool.
And think of the implications for just people
who haven't lost limbs but want like better limbs.
Yep.
Yeah.
Because this is gonna help stuff like exosuits.
Oh yeah, exosuits happen in my lifetime.
Exosuit dance?
Well, they're already kind of a thing.
There is an exosuit dance.
Oh, oh, oh.
Exosuits are already a thing,
but they can get a lot better.
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Trying to find it.
Copy link URL.
Maybe if I, I got it, I got it, I got it.
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I don't like this conversation.
I don't think you should be able to weigh in
in political topics anymore.
Therefore, I think I win the Sony conversation.
I am a nun.
Oh, back wrecked.
I can't be wrong.
Okay, this is not going somewhere
where I want to continue talking.
Elon Musk likes Hyperloops.
We're gonna go there now.
Hyperloop train research has been progressing.
It hasn't just been sitting there.
A company named Hyperloop Transport Technologies, or HTT,
has gone together with UCLA students
and some actually pretty intense engineers
from places like Boeing, Airbus, and SpaceX
who are all willing to work on Hyperloop
in their spare time
in exchange for some pretty solid stock options.
So they've got a lot of the proof of concepts down.
They've got the map of where they would want it to go down.
They're getting close to the idea of making a prototype.
We are making a prototype,
but they're getting close to that.
One of the things that they're still kind of fighting with
is how they're gonna do the actual train.
The tube itself is not that much of a question anymore.
And it's kind of in between air compressors
and an air hockey style pushing of the trains,
which is what Musk has suggested,
or magnetic levitation,
which is what a lot of the engineers
on the project right now are suggesting.
So really cool.
Apparently, sorry.
I was just gonna say,
the speed that they're expected to travel at
is about Mach one.
So that's about the speed of sound,
which is pretty fantastic
if you wanna get from, I don't know,
Boston to somewhere geographically relevant to Boston
because I'm not that good with my US geography.
Yeah.
Investors will need to find and raise six to $10 billion
to build the first 400 mile loop.
And they would obviously have to prototype before that.
Extremely expensive,
but this could be what we're looking into
in terms of future mass transportation.
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Can we not do this at all, please?
Let's just move on.
Our next topic was gonna be Ubisoft
and then the Mars Rover.
Now it's Eric Schmidt being weird.
Oh, what is he thinking?
So this was posted by Spiderloser on the forum.
This is actually a topic from last week.
Let's go ahead and fire this up.
But Eric Schmidt, so one of the founders of Google,
chairman and former CEO of Google,
basically came out and said he believes
that concerns of machines stealing jobs
and taking over the world is unwarranted.
Now I think taking over the world is a bit of a stretch,
but to imagine that machines
aren't going to steal jobs is asinine.
Like he's a super smart guy.
So he must know something that he's not telling us
because, okay, so there were a couple other things he said.
So number one is that the scientists,
so scientists developed,
this was an experiment from a few years ago
where scientists developed a neural network
and fed it 11,000 hours of YouTube videos
to see what it could learn.
It discovered the concept of cat apparently,
and he goes, I'm not quite sure what to say about that,
except that's where we are.
Except that's not where we are.
That was a few years ago and it was a random experiment.
And the fact that it just figured out the concept of cat.
It's freaking amazing.
Do you not get that?
That's crazy.
And 11,000 hours of YouTube videos,
the computer didn't have to like sit in front of a screen
and go like, huh, these are interesting YouTube videos.
It's a computer.
It probably did it like crazy fast.
And it learned what a cat is.
That's nuts.
This is super cool.
He tries to, sorry, I'm very heated about this topic.
And there's another complete BS thing.
According to Schmidt, people have been concerned
about machines taking over the world for centuries.
Go back to the history of the loom.
There was absolute dislocation,
but I think all of us are better off
with more mechanized ways of getting clothes made.
Yes.
Not even remotely comparable.
God, sorry.
You can keep going if you want.
No, that was pretty much it.
Very not stoked.
I think it's ridiculous.
I mean, to imagine for a second.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
So you could make the argument that more people,
like, okay, just more wealth in general
and less need to pursue the essentials,
you know, your food and your shelter
and your clean water and all that kind of stuff.
So making that stuff much easier to access
opens up the doors for, let's say,
careers like making YouTube videos about tech crap
that, quite frankly, a lot of what we talk about,
nobody really needs.
It's just stuff that we want and enjoy and, right, okay.
You're talking about things people don't need.
We're dressed up as girls.
It's not exactly required to advance the-
Yeah, like, okay, so the loom enabled things like clothes
to be, or not necessarily the loom,
but even more mechanized clothing manufacturing
and fabric manufacturing enabled us to cheaply buy costumes
that are just literally for one-time use
and have it be inexpensive enough
that we can afford to do that.
But the problem is not a technology problem.
It is a societal and a political problem
that is going to take these people and put them out of jobs.
Because if we just kind of went,
yes, we have ample resources and everything is fine,
everyone should just have food.
And whether it's a stamp program
or whether it's cash money program
or however it works, if there was a system in place,
this wouldn't be a problem.
The problem is that there is no system in place
and people will lose their jobs.
And all we've seen is the wealth gap increasing
over the past years to degrees,
which are absolutely ridiculous.
Stuff like the loom was able to augment workers
and help them be much more efficient,
which did reduce jobs necessarily in that field,
but also at a time when we needed labor workers
in other areas.
What AI is going to do is completely remove the need
in a vast amount of industries
to the point of basically everything at a certain degree.
They've already proved that they can replace
some pretty crazy stuff, which you wouldn't expect.
Even just the transportation industry as a whole,
the entire thing is extremely close
to being able to be replaced already.
And that's a huge proportion of even just US jobs.
Imagine if next they went after the people
who look at animals and sort them into which ones are cats.
They taught it what a cat was.
That's actually awesome.
So I wasn't being serious about that.
I'm not personally against the idea of AI.
I just think we really need to be ready
for what it could potentially do to humanity as a whole.
And I do not think we are.
There's countries that are working on it.
Last that I've heard, Sweden has started working
on different ways that they can augment lower work hours
but similar quality of life
or the same quality of life for people.
Places are working on this.
I think it was car manufacturing.
And I think what happened is they knocked off
one whole day a week and then they made it
so that it was a less, I think it was six hours
instead of eight hour work days,
but then kept their wages the same.
And they've actually found that they worked a lot harder
when they were at work.
So they didn't even change how necessarily productive
they were and a lot of car manufacturing
is very automated these days.
Look at the Tesla factory.
The only people working there mainly are checking things,
making sure machines are running fine,
making sure the process was done okay.
It's basically all automated.
People need to wake up, realize that a shoot ton of jobs
are gonna be completely replaced
and not augmented and improved
and people can go work elsewhere.
Where those people would go work elsewhere
are also gonna be replaced.
Imagine this for a second.
Just for a lark, would you go to a fully automated
restaurant where you sit down at your table
and the table is like a touchscreen tablet
where you use, basically you go menu.
You drag your menus over to where you are
and you kinda go blippity bloop, I want this one.
Here's some special instructions for the kitchen
and you never actually see, you never see anyone
come to your table and then the layout of the restaurant,
they have a very rudimentary version of this
that I've seen at some sushi places
where everything will just be on a little track.
Yeah, it like floats by you.
And it floats by you and you take it
except instead of it being like that
where it's just, it's not smart,
you have a smart system for that.
So the kitchen basically puts it on the thing
and then it comes and gets off right next to your table.
You bring it, you eat it.
Anytime you need an extra drink, you just have like,
okay, you have like a spot on the table
with a little optical sensor.
Anytime the drink is empty, new drink shows up
and you put the old one on the cart,
it goes back to the kitchen.
I mean.
I'd be completely okay with it.
What I'm gonna wanna focus on.
They have the technology for that today.
Yeah, exactly.
And people have.
That is the huge industry.
People have demonstrated that they hate tipping.
Yep.
So taking away those jobs, the ones that rely on tips,
people are gonna embrace that stuff
and that is a lot of jobs.
I mean, food services here in Vancouver anyway
is enormous.
Massive.
And that's a huge.
Take out transportation and food services.
That's potential to be done in the next year or two.
That's two massive industries.
Like huge.
And that's totally true.
And people have brought up like.
A year or two to have the technology,
not a year or two before businesses have invested enough
to replace their staff.
It'll take quite a while for people
to actually invest in everything.
But like, what was I trying to say?
Crap, I don't remember where I was going.
I would call my chain Robo's Diner.
Robo's Diner, right, okay.
Talking about Robos.
People talked about when it was starting to happen
where they were bringing automated telling machines
into grocery stores, which are super not advanced.
Apparently there's a restaurant in the Netherlands
that uses holograms and touch screens
for ordering food from your table.
There you go.
So there you go.
It's already happening.
So automated tellers in places like fast food restaurants
and grocery stores, a lot of people were super against.
There was a very large uproar.
And then do you even hear that anymore?
When I go to the grocery store,
I usually actually prefer to go through the automated teller
because I'm like, I will go much faster.
Like if I go to Home Depot, for example,
and I have to buy something,
I had to go buy screws the other day.
And I'm like, I walk up to the thing,
there's a line of tellers and there's the automated machine.
So I'm like, hmm, well, walk up to the automated machine,
scan, scan, pay, gone.
It was super fast.
I didn't have to deal with anyone
who could tell hated everything that they were doing.
Once Apple Pay comes to Canada, it'll be even faster.
Scan, scan, touch the thing, and then leave.
Like even faster.
Yeah, a lot of jobs are gonna go away.
It's not like one industry and one part of one industry.
It's everything that will be affected.
We should be okay for a while yet.
Japan's already working on replacing newscasters.
Yeah, I saw that.
Which is really similar to our jobs.
Sort of, we do other things too.
I know.
Okay, newscasters will be a lot easier
to replace than entertainers.
I'm just saying, it's in the same field.
Somewhere in between.
It's in the same field.
And one thing that Hollywood's already started working on,
like if you remember Tron,
they scanned the dude's face and then barely used them.
Yep, and did you see how amazing
in COD Advanced Warfare, crap, I forget his name.
Kaiser Sose.
Kaiser Sose.
Kevin Spacey, thank you.
Yeah, Kevin Spacey.
Yeah, he plays Kaiser Sose.
Yeah, no, I was thinking of the actor's name.
Yeah, yeah, I just couldn't remember.
But yeah, Kevin Spacey looked freaking awesome in that game.
Ridiculously good.
Like that section can be replaced.
It can happen.
Yeah, some people are like, I've been told by Taron,
they're like, oh yeah, well,
you'll never be able to automate editing.
Like dude, that'll happen.
It will take a lot longer.
It will take a lot longer, of course.
You'll be able to automate the editing
of something like a newscast much more easily
than you'll be able to automate the editing
of something artistic or funny.
But they've already proven that they can have robots
that can make music and they've already proven
that they can make robots that can create humor.
So it probably won't take as long as expected.
Um, something seems to be confusing about the chat.
There's one saying F.
Okay.
Oh, right, press F to pay respects.
It's a COD meme, don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Oh, okay.
COD things.
All right, so Microsoft condemns the US government
in their latest video ad.
We should show this.
This is amazing.
Have you seen it?
Yeah, they've. Oh, God.
Whew.
They did not pull any punches on this one.
Oh, unfortunately, it's not captioned.
I thought, I seem to, I thought it was.
Yeah, there it is.
People in organizations rely on the cloud
to do many of the things they care about.
Basically, it's a whole up all a bunch
of touchy feely footage of, you know, people.
People are more connected,
things are more efficient, people like the cloud,
people use the cloud.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so basically, Microsoft's point in this video,
very, very aggressively worded,
is that just because it's data
doesn't mean that it can't be located
outside of your jurisdiction.
So the US government is basically trying to get some.
Have you posted this?
I'm sorry?
Have you posted this?
Yes.
So the US government is trying to get at some emails
that Microsoft is storing on a server in Ireland.
And instead of working through the Irish government,
the way that they would have to do it
if there was someone or something physically there.
They were holding mail there.
They're just trying to get around it
and do this whole thing digitally
and force Microsoft to submit this data to them.
And this is really, really important
because whether you're American or not,
what the US does with respect to internet policy
is going to have an impact on everyone,
especially if they win this
and they're able to get access to data
that is not stored on American servers
because that's looking like one of the only last refuges
for keeping your data safe
from the prying of the US government
is to store it on servers that aren't in America.
And so Apple and Cisco said that the tech sector
is put at risk of being sanctioned by foreign governments
and the US should seek cooperation
with foreign nations via treaties,
a position that the US said is not practical.
I mean, Microsoft's point in the video,
and you should watch the video, is really good.
Are people going to entrust their data to the cloud
if they feel like anyone could be looking at it?
No, because, I mean, are we gonna go back to snail mail?
Is that what this is gonna come to?
Because the last time I checked,
no one's allowed to open your mail, that's a crime.
Yeah.
That's a crime.
That's the same thing,
I'm gonna jump off a little bit right here,
but it's the same kind of idea
where there was something recently passed in Canada,
which is police are allowed to check out
the contents of your phone
in relation to what they arrested you for
if they arrest you without a warrant.
So they're able to look through your phone
for things that could have something to do
with what you got arrested for
without getting a warrant for any reason,
and they're obviously gonna have to look through
a whole bunch of stuff to find things
that are related to what you possibly just did.
So they essentially get to look through your entire phone.
So I should just make sure
that there's some really awful stuff on my phone
that they don't wanna see?
Probably.
Is that the strategy?
But it's crazy, because if you were speeding,
they could be like,
well, I need to look through your text messages in entirety
to figure out if you have talked about a race
that you might have possibly been in.
That's a potential situation.
And all of the things that are on your phone
in other forms are guarded by warrants.
You can't check someone's mail without a warrant.
You can't check someone's phone records without a warrant.
But apparently, your cell phone has nothing to do with that,
and that's not really okay.
The problem is that the laws aren't keeping up,
because five years ago,
that may have actually been a valid point,
because a phone wouldn't have really,
maybe not even five, maybe eight years ago,
a phone wouldn't have contained
all of your personal financial information, for example.
It would have your phone records.
Whereas now-
Which is something you'd want for it.
Whereas now, your phone can contain a lot of stuff
that traditionally would have only been allowed
to be sent by mail because of security concerns,
things like credit card statements
or mortgage documents or whatever else,
most of which can be done digitally now.
So that's like a really big deal,
and that happened in Canada recently.
The only reason why I brought that up,
I know I don't really bring up
Canadian politics stuff very often-
Check, because no one cares about Canada.
Pretty much.
But, yeah.
But it's because it's kind of similarly related.
Laws that are coming up
and things that are trying to be done
that contradict and go against things
that we've had for a long time,
like needing to work with governments to do something
in someone else's soil.
It's, ah, it's been a thing forever.
Yeah, don't touch my soil.
Without my permission.
Perch buys a non-tech.
So these are the same guys
that own Tom's Hardware already.
This was posted by AlexGoesHigh on the forum.
We'll just fire up perch.com.
So, I'm not really sure what to think of this.
Because, I mean, some of the stuff that I hear
about Tom's Hardware would go a little bit deeper
than what actually appears on their website
with respect to, you know,
what advertiser relationships are like with them.
I mean, a good thing.
And so there's a statement from Ryan Smith
who took over for Anand, the guy who started Anand Tech.
So they have a statement from him.
Blah, blah, blah.
Grown by leaps and bounds.
We are nearing what is possible as an independent company.
The challenge has always been
that there are very few players in the publishing space
these days who value deep, high quality content.
We wanted a partner that understood our values
and had a sound business model, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So basically, they wanted someone to support their business
and find advertisers and find deals for them
that would allow them to, you know,
pay their salaries and do their jobs.
So they wanted someone who appreciated
how much more work goes into a single article at Anand Tech
versus at, you know, let's say Gizmodo or Engadget
or something like that.
And I'm not saying no one at Engadget
works hard on an article.
That's not the statement I'm making at all.
I'm saying that typically, you know, word for word,
there's gonna be more of them in the Anand Tech article
and they will often have more research
and more benchmarking and numbers.
They're a different style.
Anand Tech is gonna be a long form,
extremely in-depth, informative style stuff.
Stuff like Engadget is gonna be fairly quick.
You're gonna get-
Digestible.
Yes, you're gonna get the news quickly
and it's gonna be fairly quick to be able to read.
So, yeah, yeah.
So there you go.
Anand Tech represents much of my life's work
over the past 18 years, said Anand Shimpi, the founder.
I'm happy to see it end up with a partner
committed to taking good care of the brand and its readers.
I wouldn't have had it any other way.
With all of that said,
it's not like Ryan or Anand had any choice
but to make really positive statements about it.
And I'm sure if I was selling Linus Media Group
to AT&T or something,
I would spin it as the most positive possible thing
for Linus Media Group and its employees and its viewers.
But who knows?
Might be great, might be fine.
Tom's Hardware hasn't imploded yet.
So there you go.
If we sold to AT&T, I would just become a monk.
You'd become a monk?
Yeah.
Well, I'd be a nun.
Yeah.
I had a few people sort of accuse Anand Tech of selling out.
You know what?
Selling the business is not necessarily
the same thing as selling out.
I mean, yes, Anand left the site.
I think that he left it in fairly capable hands
based on my interactions with the guys that are there,
reading the articles written by the guys that are there.
And ultimately, content is king.
And then if they found a partner that's gonna own the site,
that's gonna make sure that it's monetized correctly,
then I don't think he's sold out so much as sold,
which is not really the same thing.
And then I had people discussing in the forum thread
on this topic, whether if Linus was gonna sell out
or whatever else, like, no, I intend to run Linus Media Group
for a really long time.
But one thing that I will say is,
talk to me 17 years from now,
and maybe I feel a little differently.
Maybe I'm ready for a new challenge
and the younger, more invigorated team that I left behind
is ready to run Linus Media Group on its own.
My goal is going to be, and yours,
and I think everyone's here,
is that we are Linus Media Group,
not necessarily just Linus Tech Tips.
We've done stuff like Tech Quickie.
We've tried to make things
that are still really interesting to us.
People like Super Fun, we started Super Fun.
But we're not just one singular website.
And we might not always just be video, either.
Yeah, who knows?
We're gonna keep evolving
and we're gonna try and keep this dude interested.
And I think he's gonna try
and keep everyone else here interested.
So...
That whip.
Nothing keeps people more interested than the whip.
That nun costume just got real interesting.
All right, posted on the forum by xTankSlayerX,
Hatred was removed from Steam Greenlight for a day.
Well, a day after its launch.
And oh, apparently I'm not a member of their forum,
so I won't be viewing that particular topic.
Let's try the next link here.
And I can't bring that one up, either.
Well, whatever, there's nothing I can do for you guys.
So our source here, xTankSlayerX posted this,
and it's forums.hatredgame.com.
And basically it was pulled down.
Gabe Newell himself reinstated the game on Greenlight
one day later, so that was December 16th,
and personally emailed the creator to apologize
and inform him that the game was to be placed
back on Steam Greenlight.
In the letter, he said,
"'Since I wasn't up to speed on why this decision was made,
I asked around internally to find out
why we had done that,'
taken Hatred down,
"'it turns out that it wasn't a good decision
and we'll be putting Hatred back up.
My apologies to you and your team.
Steam is creating tools for content creators and customers.
Good luck with your game.'"
Now,
I guess I see why it might have been pulled.
Hatred is a game where you play as the antagonist.
Basically, you're a mass murderer
and you go on a killing spree.
The entire point of the game is to kill innocent civilians
and police officers.
Steam pulled the game just hours after it was launched,
and VP of marketing at Valve stated,
"'Based on what we've seen on Greenlight,
we would not publish Hatred on Steam.
As such, we'll be taking it down
without really elaborating on the decision.'
In fact, we still don't know exactly
why the decision was made at Valve to pull it down.
We just know that Gabe Newell came in
and stomped in the way that only someone
who weighs as much as Gabe Newell can."
Sorry, I love you, Gabe.
Winter sale is amazing.
Sorry, I shouldn't take shots at you for weighing a lot.
And now it's back up.
So this is one that, I don't know,
what are your personal feelings?
Should there be a limit to what Valve
should be willing to publish on Steam?
I think they just need to have,
I guess, better predefined metrics.
Like, you're running a store.
You can decide what you want to be in your store.
And of course, there's this weird thing
where people can vote stuff in,
but you still have veto power.
You should be able to remove things.
And this becomes a fairly interesting thing
where a lot of internet platforms
are seen as public resources instead of companies.
And this happens a lot.
And they should do this,
and then everyone will get very mad at them
because they didn't do something
the way they wanted them to,
while it's a company still.
It's an interesting conversation.
I think they should have better defined metrics.
Like, okay, if your game is specifically about mass murder
and specifically about killing innocent civilians
and specifically about killing police officers
who weren't doing anything wrong,
and their jobs, and like specifically designed
to be a game about essentially genocide
and specifically designed for these things,
maybe we don't want that on our service.
And if that exists, if that is a metric that they have,
then I think it's okay.
If it wasn't.
Yeah, because there are games like GTA 5
or Watch Dogs where you can run around
and gun down civilians and gun down police officers
with I guess the justification for that
being that the rules of the world do somewhat apply.
You know, they'll send bigger and bigger
law enforcement after you and, you know,
or the public can turn against you
in Watch Dogs or whatever else.
Like it's not considered something
that the player is rewarded for.
Yeah, and it's not necessarily your specific goal.
It's definitely something you can partake in in the game.
It's definitely something you can do.
A game like Carmageddon, you could make the argument
it's a racing game.
It would be a weak argument,
but you could make the argument
that it is a racing game at least.
But this game specifically is like,
yes, please kill innocent people.
People are bringing up Manhunt as an example of this.
There's a couple.
There's Manhunt, there's that other one
that I can't remember the name of, Postal.
I think it's called Postal.
It's called Cough Payday 2.
So yes, there are examples of stuff like this.
But I guess basically the problem is that
Valve didn't draw the line,
and you don't get to draw the line after the fact.
So I suspect right now,
they're in the process of internal meetings
about where they're gonna draw the line.
Because let's say, for example,
that Hatred had been baby Hatred.
And the entire game was, you know,
like triple A graphics,
tearing apart babies in front of their mothers
and then, you know, committing sexual assault on them.
Like you could come up with a game
that literally shouldn't be allowed to be published anywhere
and I think Valve just has to define
where their line in the sand is gonna be drawn.
Especially now that they have a voting system.
They need to come up with predefined metrics
for what cannot get through the voting system
and what they're going to veto.
I think there wasn't enough communication here
on Valve's side as to those types of things.
And I think if they wanted to pull something
like Hatred down, they should have pulled,
sorry, they should have pulled related games down.
People brought up that, I don't know,
I haven't looked for it because I'm not interested in this,
but people brought up that I think
Postal's on Steam or something.
So like if they wanted to do this,
they probably should have taken down games
that were essentially the same idea.
But yeah.
Okay, so let's move on to something a little bit more fun.
This was, the original article is from the Tech Report.
All right, can you post that?
And this was posted by Ah Ming on the forum
and this looks actually pretty awesome.
So Lee and Lee is using flexible PCI Express extensions.
I sure wish they would do an external power supply
and make them smaller, as well as glass,
so tempered glass panels and wall mounting support
to make some pretty amazing and unique cases.
These look fantastic.
Looked really nice.
Now, okay, that one's a little big.
That one's a little big.
Just for context guys here,
this is a three and a half inch drive.
This is a full-sized ATX power supply
and this is a full-sized gaming grade graphics card.
That's like an Asus Strix or something like that.
And that's a full-size ATX board.
Give me this basic concept with an ITX board.
Yeah, they have that.
Yeah, so, where is it?
Oh, whatever, okay.
I think it's the original picture.
Yeah, there we go.
So give me the same basic concept
except tone it down even more.
I don't need a three and a half inch drive.
I don't want a power supply internally, all this stuff.
And this is a really, really cool concept.
I think my mom might be calling.
Oh, Lordy.
Do we answer and hear what she has to say
about murder games?
I really think it's a bad idea.
Okay, sorry mom.
We probably know what your stance is on murder games.
We're gonna go with mom doesn't like murder games.
My mom doesn't like murder games either.
My mom doesn't like games in general.
Oh, my mom likes games.
I think the only game-
I've all played Skyrim and WoW and stuff.
I think the only game a member of my family
ever bought for me was,
I got the Warcraft II Battle Chest from my grandparents
and they never got me a game again
because I'm pretty sure my mom gave them heck
when I wasn't looking.
My mom used to play WoW
and I remember one time she got ganked in,
I'm gonna say the wrong thing, but it's a foresty area.
Stranglethorn, no, I don't know, whatever, doesn't matter.
And my whole guild went and protected her, no.
Just kidding.
Not at all.
My whole guild went and protected her
and it was like the mom defense league.
And we made sure that she couldn't get ganked
by other people.
It was fantastic.
Wow.
Anyway, oh, oh, oh.
So the pirate base shut down is a lesson in futility.
Got lots of articles from variety.com.
This was posted by powder banks on the forum
and in a nutshell, it affected,
you guys may or may not know this,
but the official pirate bay was the servers were raided.
It's like, like shut down.
It has had virtually no effect on digital piracy levels.
What so ever.
Okay, there is an effect,
but it was small and probably not lasting.
So my onscreen keyboard is like,
is this, can you just, can you just not XPS?
No, because it keeps coming back if I don't flip the screen.
It doesn't happen very often, but during the show.
So total, no, I didn't.
If you want to go ahead and post that.
Total BitTorrent users barely dropped
during the pirate base downtime.
So 101.5 million users on December 8th,
one day prior to the Swedish law enforcement
take down of the pirate bay,
reached an overall low of 95 million users on December 10th,
back up to a 100.2 million users on Friday,
December the 12th.
Daily average since November 1st is roughly 99.9 million.
And it takes so much effort to take down even one site.
And when they do it,
there are going to be dozens to take its place.
The ISO hunt guys were hosting the pirate bay
on their own mirrored server.
Like you are not going to stop piracy.
There has to be a better way.
I mean, Google Play Music turned me
into a 100% paid music user.
I will happily, happily spend my monthly subscription fee
on Google Play Music because that is how I want to use it.
And if you give people the option to use content
the way they want to use it, I think they will pay for it.
I am a personally reformed music pirate.
I own like six CDs total.
That medium didn't work for me.
I wasn't going to pay you 24.99 for the one song
that I wanted on that album.
Because quite frankly,
most of what someone like Britney Spears does is garbage.
But if I wanted Hit Me Baby one more time,
I had to pay 24.99.
Are you kidding me?
No.
So there you go.
I was reformed.
I think other people can be reformed
by systems that are designed to actually work
and not be so offensive to the consumer.
That's the whole idea to a certain degree.
That's another thing too.
Steam turned me into a legit game owner.
Just like that.
That's all they had to do was they had to let me
use the games the way that I wanted to use them,
copy them back and forth rather than redownloading them,
not have to worry about serials,
not having to worry about CD keys and physical media.
It was like Excel databases that you used to hold
because you'd lose them all the time.
For me?
I'm not saying about that.
I think you did that, but I know a lot of people.
I could make the argument,
like I could actually make the argument
that I would pay $20 for the convenience of Steam,
nevermind paying $20 for the actual content of the game.
I mean, if you're gonna give me the content of the game
and the convenience of Steam for $20
or an average of $24 for a triple A game.
You play and Origin and Steam didn't exist
and there was a service that just like managed
all your CD keys and managed all the downloads
and managed all the installs and all that kind of stuff
and made it so you could drag and drop
whole folders for games.
And it was like a pirate service.
Honestly, I'll be completely honest with you guys,
I would probably use that service for at least some stuff.
Because for me, it really is about
the appropriate content delivery model.
So there you go.
That's why pirates thrive.
Content delivery models suck.
That's why Netflix is doing so well.
Because previous movie content delivery models were terrible.
And honestly, I've had no time
to watch movies or TV shows lately
with the kids and all that.
But if I, like once things settle in a little bit,
then I'll probably reactivate
my Netflix subscription as well.
I have it, I don't even necessarily use it that much,
but there'll be like that weekend
where I have nothing to do or I have something to do,
but it's like in my house and I'll just play something
in the background and I'm like,
oh yeah, I'm happy I have this.
And I'll get like the whole value of that monthly sub
from like a day and be like, yep, awesome.
Super happy I had this.
So I think that's pretty much it.
I'm okay with it being pretty much it
because I'm super overheating.
So I'm wearing a shirt and then another shirt
and then a sweater and a wig.
Do I have a sweater on under my habit?
No, I don't.
I'm sure there's gonna be a fair number of people talking
because I've actually never really talked about
that I used to pirate a lot of content.
Like I think that's the first time you ever brought that up.
I speak out a lot against piracy
and like I dismiss a lot of those arguments.
And the reason that I feel like
I have the right to do that
is because I have made those arguments
and I know that I was just lying to myself.
I was lying to myself and I was lying to other people
and it's basically complete rubbish.
I've gone back.
It's horse crap.
And like I know it's not the same
because right when your game launches,
the metrics are massively more important and whatnot.
But certain things that I pirated when I was a kid
and there was legitimately no possible way
I could have paid for it,
I have gone back and purchased
in like almost every scenario.
So people are saying I'm gonna lose my sponsors.
I've said far worse on this show.
So yeah, good luck with that.
Thanks for watching guys.
We'll see you again next week.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
We won't be girls.
We will not be dressed up as nuns
and the chick from Firefly.
What's with this shirt?
She wears, this is not a very accurate representation
but it's probably just like the best thing that could find.
But she wears like her kind of greasy overalls
and then she wears like a more girly shirt under it.
Usually it's less terrible than this.
All right, peace guys.
She also doesn't have a beard.
So how can you tell?
She could have a like transparent hair beard.
You don't think so, but I asked how you know,
I didn't ask how you don't think so.
But if you had a trick, doesn't everyone have like a-
Have you ever rubbed your face against hers?
No, but I would, I don't know.
Would you do that if you had the opportunity?
Probably yes, although not forcibly.
She would have to be okay with it first.
Okay, I would be okay with you
rubbing your face against mine.
Would you?
Probably not actually.
I was just, I wanted to clarify that.
Based on how much residue your hands leave on mice,
I don't think I need to make contact
with your face. My face doesn't sweat
as much as my hands do.
Can you prove that without rubbing your face on me?
Actually, probably yeah.