All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the WAN Show,
and everyone else too.
Welcome to the WAN Show.
We are finally live.
I was helping Luke create, is he, what the?
I was helping Luke create custom length ethernet cables
by basically looking at what he was doing,
going, wow, gee, that looks too hard,
and then going and getting some ethernet cables.
I happened to buy a few months ago
that happened to be the length of the cables
he was trying to make and handing them to him.
So he should be wrapping that up pretty darn quickly,
and then he'll be joining me here on the show.
We've got a great show for you guys today.
Gonna be a lot of discussion around Mobile World Congress.
Obviously, that was the big thing that happened this week.
Lots of news about the latest happenings
in the desktop computer world.
I need like a cricket sound effect that I can play.
So lots of stuff from the biggest handset makers,
your Samsung, your LG, your Caterpillar.
Evidently, that's a thing.
So we'll be talking a little bit more about that.
Actually, the Caterpillar phone looks really interesting.
I'm hoping to be able to get one for review.
What else we got going on?
DirectX 12, explicit multi-GPU mode
has been tested by PC World, so we're gonna check that out.
I don't know, I'm sure there was something else
that's interesting.
Aerocool's DreamBox chassis kit,
potentially a more maker-friendly chassis
than we've ever seen before.
And software piracy apparently hurts Linux adoption,
a research study finds.
So more on that at 11.
It's so funny, I got a guy in the chat that's like,
sorry, I'm late, can you start over?
Like, yeah, I wish that was a thing that I could do.
All right, so here we go, we're starting over.
Welcome to the WAN show, guys.
Boom, let's roll the intro.
Oh boy, all right, so I think the first topic today
is gonna be, let's see, what can I handle
without my dynamic duo Ultimo sidekick here?
I'm sure there's something.
You know what, why don't we jump right into
the Mobile World Congress stuff.
If you have to go make ethernet cables somewhere,
I think that's totally fine,
because basically I'm gonna be listing specs
for the next 20 minutes, which I actually won't.
And by the way, the battery on your laptop's low,
get wrecked.
I love how Dell says, strike the F1 key to continue.
It's like, you have to be really sure.
They want you to not press, not push, not even hit.
You gotta strike, you gotta hit with precision,
accuracy, intimidation.
I'm just stalling for time at this point.
All right, so let's jump into the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge.
Unlike last time, it looks like we're going to be seeing
an S7 and an S7 Edge that aren't just complete equivalents
of each other with one of them having a curved screen.
So with the S6 and the S6 Edge,
they were actually kind of two versions of both.
There was the Note, which is sort of like
a Galaxy S6 larger, and then there was the Edge Plus.
So this time around, the S7 and the S7 Edge
are just totally different.
So the Edge now is a larger phone.
So it's actually got a five point,
I believe it's a 5.4 inch display
versus the 5.1 inch display of, no, excuse me,
5.5 inch display compared to the 5.1 inch display
of the S7 Edge.
They're both running Quad HD Super AMOLED displays
and they're gonna be very similar to their predecessors
in that regard.
The camera is a big change going from the S6 series
to the S7 series.
So they're going down from a 16 megapixel camera
to a 12 megapixel camera this time around.
They are doing the whole HTC ultra pixel thing,
except that, there's a power bar there.
No, no, the other one.
So they're actually reducing the pixel count
in order to use larger pixels for better light capture,
especially in low light conditions.
But hopefully, like Apple, they're doing it right.
So they're doing it in a way that's not going to hurt
the performance of the camera
in more normal shooting scenarios,
something that many people complained about with the One M7.
This is cool, so we are getting back
the IP68 water and dust resistance.
So they are saying that it's gonna allow for submersion
in up to one and a half meters of water
for 30 minutes at a time.
And we're getting some beefed up specs, of course.
So Snapdragon 820, Exynos processors
in some regions of the world.
This is so bizarre to me, the way Samsung does this.
It's like, this region, this, and that region, that.
These people wanna process this way.
But then again, and you know what's funny
is they get away with it.
Like you look at how much crap Apple took
just over using two different foundries
for the same damn chip design.
Meanwhile, Samsung's like,
yeah, we're just completely different processor.
Don't worry about it.
At least that is done by region though.
With the Apple one, it was like a gamble.
What one do I get?
Who knows?
Complete poop mix, so to speak.
Some other big changes.
So we are getting back microSD expansion.
Samsung either heard their customers loud and clear,
or this is nothing that they didn't know already.
And they intentionally withheld that
from the last generation to hope for there
to be some reason for people to upgrade
from the S6 to the S7.
There's also four gigs of RAM this time around.
Actually, I don't know if the,
I don't know, I think there were three.
S6, it's all blurring together because it's like,
yay, new phone spec bump.
Really premium looking devices this time around
with like glass and metal and all that kind of stuff.
So that's, again, huge step in the right direction.
Love that from Samsung,
because they do it really well when they decide to do it.
No removable battery,
but the capacity on the S7 looks pretty good.
It's got a 3000 milliamp power battery.
And that combined with Android 6.0 Marshmallow
with any power saving features we gained there
should be enough for you to get great battery life
even if you use the always on display feature.
So Samsung is claiming that you lose
only about a half a percent of battery per hour
in its tests by having the display on all the time.
So that's just displaying love.
So critical information.
I mean, this is something that I've seen before.
You've probably seen before.
Things like smartwatches that use AMOLED displays
will have an always on display so that,
oh, it's funny, I'm holding tape.
There you go.
You can, whatever, you can barely see it, whatever.
Here, against the purple background.
Nah, I don't.
Do it, do it, do it.
There, so you can, oh.
And I've seen sort of ambient display modes on phones before
like the Droid Turbo that had that proximity sensor
that you could just kind of wave at it
whenever you want to see it.
Honestly, that worked really well.
But this seems pretty good
and it won't necessarily be on all the time.
It does have a proximity sensor as well.
It just uses it for the opposite purpose.
So it'll actually turn off those pixels
that it's illuminating to tell you the time
or notifications or whatever else.
And whenever it's in your pocket
or face down on a table or whatever else.
Although if you're the kind of person
who puts your phone face down on a table, feel bad.
Feel bad about that because there can be small
like micro fragments of actually surprisingly hard minerals.
Like, I don't know if people know this
but like sand is not necessarily all made of sand stone.
Okay, there's all kinds of minerals and elements
and deposits and junk in just regular ordinary sand
to the point where my iPhone 6s is scratched to crap
just from going in and out of my pocket
from getting bits of dust and debris and sand in my pocket
because I didn't put a Phantom glass protector on it.
I know I even have one, I have two.
I have a normal one and a privacy one.
And I was just like, you know, Yolo, Yolo
I'm going bare back on the 6s
because I did so well with the Droid Turbo
which doesn't have a Phantom glass protector for it.
So I never even had the option
and I'd like had it for over a year.
And I was like, oh, this thing's still doing really good.
I'm like getting good at this
like taking care of my phone thing.
With that said, not all glass
or not all scratch resistant glass is made equal
even from Gorilla glass.
Like I swear with exactly the same treatment
I have encountered phones that scratch very easily.
They're using the same kind of glass
as ones that just seem to be completely bulletproof
like that Droid Turbo
and seem to be nearly impossible to scratch.
I think there's a binning process that goes on
that Corning seems to not talk about
where there are different grades
of even every type of Gorilla glass.
And it might be a little touch of the old luck of the draw
as to whether you get a good one
or one that is not as good.
We can briefly go over the S7 Edge.
So larger display, like I said, five and a half inches.
The back of the device now has a curve to it as well
making it more comfortable to hold.
Has a 3,600 milliamp hour battery.
And other than that
looks like pretty much the same darn thing.
So I'm doing way fewer phone reviews these days.
There's a couple of reasons for it.
Number one is I just don't think they're that different
from each other anymore.
Yeah.
And number two is that
I was getting, it was really wearing on me
because not all reviewers do this
but I actually switch to the phone outright
that I am reviewing.
I take my SIM out of my normal phone.
And while these days, because I use Google Authenticator
for pretty much everything
I do still need to carry around my daily driver phone
cause switching over all that stuff is a real bear.
I only use the other phone for everything else.
And it has just been wearing on me
to be switching phones all the time like that.
So I only plan to review one of
the Galaxy S7 and the S7 Edge.
So I'm gonna do a straw poll here guys.
I want you to let me know which one you wanna see.
Here we go.
Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.
Straw poll, man.
They make it easy to do polls.
Boop, there you go.
So I wanna see what you guys wanna see.
I mean, I wanna know what you guys wanna just,
okay, whatever, I'm gonna click results now.
Some more interesting phones.
So the LG G5 seems to have kind of jumped out
in front of everyone else on the whole
modular phone concept.
Certainly not to the same degree as someone,
really guys, the Edge?
It's a five and a half inch device.
I can practically write that review right now.
The phone's really nice, it's really fast.
Samsung continues to make improvements to TouchWiz,
but it's too big for my hands.
Actually, I'm personally a lot more interested
in the S7 than I am in the Edge.
Apparently very few of you are interested in it at all,
though this is one of the lowest percentage
voter turnouts I've ever seen.
We've got 4,700 people watching
and like a thousand of you voted.
Okay, there we go.
That's a little better, 1,500.
Looks like the S7 is making up some ground here,
but wow, you guys are with me on the whole phones
just not really being that interesting anymore
thing it looks like.
The G5 does look legitimately interesting though.
So not modular to the same degree as something
like the phone blocks concept
where the idea was you'd actually have like
almost like a breadboard with like a screen in front of it.
And then you just have like these modules
that you can modularly plug in or take out
and even claiming to be able to do things
like a hot swap a battery module while the phone is running.
That's not out yet.
That's something that's in a lab somewhere
that probably will see the light of day in the future.
But for now the G5 does offer some modularity.
So the original article here,
this was posted by Nin Shadow on the forum.
The last one was Chrisro996.
And our original article here is from Android authority.
So they've got basically most of the phone is not modular.
So phone blocks was like, yeah,
you could like put in a new processor and RAM and storage
and blah, blah, blah.
This one, most of it is not modular.
It is pretty much a phone.
They've still got the power button on the back.
Although thankfully for me, I prefer this.
They've moved the volume rocker to the side of the phone.
Then it's got, I think it's a 2,800 milliamp power battery.
It's got some dude holding it up here.
Design and build quality.
Oh yeah, they're going for a much, much more
like premium feeling design to it.
It's got, this actually kind of reminds me of,
oh, what was it?
Nexus S, original Nexus.
This actually looks like this rounded business here.
It feels like kind of a dated design language, but.
Yeah, Nexus S.
Yeah.
That's the white one that I had.
Yeah, it really reminds me of that
with like a sort of the curved look to the bump.
But I mean, as long as it feels good in the hand,
then I'm not gonna give them too much flack over that.
But there's a few unique features to this one
that actually make it really interesting to me.
So Snapdragon 820, Adreno 530, four gigs of RAM.
Don't worry, none of that was unique.
Yes, it is 2,800 milliamp powers for the battery.
I did just check on that.
No support for wireless charging.
Oh yeah, the last thing that's a total bummer
and a missed opportunity about the S7 and the S7 Edge.
Micro B USB connector.
Hey, it's 2016.
If it's not type C, I don't wanna see it anymore.
Get it?
I don't wanna see anything else.
It's not a joke, it's just dumb.
Anyway, so the G5 supports quick charge 3.0,
but no wireless charging.
It has a dual camera setup.
This is where we're starting to get into the cool stuff.
So it has a normal,
it's funny, my notes say normal angle.
Dang it, Colton.
So it just has a more standard 16 megapixel camera.
Then this is cool.
It has a wide angle, eight megapixel camera
and the phone can actually stitch inputs
from the two cameras into one image.
And it also allows you to switch
between the 135 degree wide angle
and the regular camera manually within the app
with an instant transition.
This is one of those,
it is so difficult to get the best of both worlds
unless you just put two cameras on it problems
and LG ran out and solved it by putting two cameras on it.
Because one of the things that I liked so much
about the S6 was the relatively wide angle lens,
particularly on the selfie camera,
which made it so that you didn't have to have that,
you know that selfie look,
like you got the one arm out
and you're like trying to make your face square to the shot
and trying to look natural,
but you can't get it out far enough to get a decent picture.
Well, with a nice wide angle lens, you don't have to,
you can be very comfortable, you can be very square
and the phone can be very close to you.
So having the ability to take,
to take, sorry,
to take wider shots of closeup subjects
or this is the problem with that,
or to be able to get a reasonable clarity
on a shot of something like you're at a hockey game
or a basketball game or something
and you're that person,
cause everyone does it.
And it's like, oh, this picture of this player
is special because I took it.
Then you're actually able to do that
in a way that you otherwise can't.
All right, aluminum unibody,
power button built into the rear fingerprint sensor.
Fingerprint sensors are a great thing,
especially when they're well implemented.
I am such a huge fan of that.
I really wish it was better on the Z5 Compact.
It's a funny thing about this phone.
It was something that I was not able
to really tackle properly in my review,
but that I can follow up with now.
No matter how many times I reset my fingerprint
in the settings, it works great for a bit
and then stops working great.
And while you could say, well, Linus,
it's obvious the answer is that you're a morphling
and your fingerprints change over time.
I really don't think that's it
because the iPhone 6S that I reviewed before that
and I'm now using now after that review
works like instantly just fine anyway.
So let's get into the modules.
So what they're allowing you to do is swap.
It looks like a single module.
So you have to kind of pick, okay, what's my specialty?
So they're allowing you to remove the bottom cap
of the phone and swap in these modules.
So this allows access to a replaceable battery,
or you could add something like a camera grip,
which gives you manual control for shutter and zoom,
as well as an increase in the battery capacity.
So another 1200 milliamp hours.
So that brings it up to 4,000 milliamp hours
if you have that grip on it.
They've also got one called the LG Hi-Fi Plus.
So that's an audio module from Bang & Olufsen,
which features a 32-bit, as if that means anything,
DAC, as well as a dedicated
three and a half millimeter headphone port.
And there are apparently more modules to come.
I can't think of too many modules
that I would particularly want to add to a phone.
So I guess I'd like to take this opportunity
to hand off to you guys and ask you,
what exactly would you add to a phone?
So let's do Twitter blitz here.
I wanna hear from you guys at Linus Tech on Twitter.
What module would you like to see from LG?
Let's go ahead and put that right there.
PC build in a fridge, does it work?
Come on, let's bring on those tweets.
Bring on those tweets.
As many battery modules as I can get.
Who does an hour-long podcast all by himself?
Not this guy.
Yeah.
And not this guy.
Yeah.
I love your timing.
We've actually both done that before.
We have both done that before.
Yeah.
All right, come on guys, come on.
That thing that I'm working on
is pretty much as far as it can go
until I need to make large amounts of noise.
Oh, okay, cool.
We can talk about that.
Actually here, why don't we talk about
a couple of the videos we've got coming?
I mean, YOLO, right?
Why don't you do yours first?
I could just do it in the background.
So you do it in the back or do it in the background?
Maybe both?
Ooh, in the background.
So we're talking about that one?
Twitch allow that?
Yeah, sure.
So basically, essentially, I live in a rented place,
like a lot of people.
And when you live in a rented place,
usually they don't want you to drill
like giant holes in the wall because that can suck.
Sometimes you can get away with it by just not telling them,
but that's not really an option with my landlord.
So instead of putting my networking on a wall,
I'm putting it on a board,
which I can just lean against the wall.
Because up until now, all of my networking kit,
my access point, my router, my modem, my giant switch,
all of it was just in like a pile and all the cables
were just going everywhere and it was disgusting
and horrible and I hated it.
Back to the pile.
So instead, I'm mounting it on a board.
That's what I'm doing over there.
So when I was off screen, I was like velcroing stuff down
and routing cables and doing stuff like that.
It's not perfect, but I'm doing it really fast.
I bought a thousand dollar HDMI cable today.
People on Twitter are freaking out.
They're like, it's a waste of money.
And I'm like, I know, I know, I know, trust me, I know.
You guys who watch the WAN show,
you guys are the inner circle, okay?
So I'm not gonna tweet out, I know,
because if people have been watching long enough
to follow on Twitter and they don't know
that I'm aware of the issues with a thousand dollar
HDMI cable, then they can just wait
for the piece of content.
They don't get to be inner circle, okay?
So I know.
The point of the video is that someone,
but remember that I'm not buying an HDMI cable
to own an HDMI cable.
I am buying an HDMI cable to make a piece of content
about aforementioned HDMI cable.
And the issue with the high-end cable industry
is that you've either got the people who,
I can't figure out why,
but they either buy into the snake oil
and because they get given the cables, maybe I'm guessing,
or they buy into the snake oil
because they bought the cables, they can't return them,
and they can't admit that they got fleeced.
And I think that's where a lot of this-
Defending purchasing decisions.
Yeah, I think that's where a lot of these myths
get perpetuated because the only people willing,
the only people who have them to talk about them
fall into one of those two camps for the most part.
So everyone else, all the other people who know better
are too smart to buy one.
So what I'm doing here effectively
is I am taking it for the team.
Yeah.
I just spent a thousand US dollars-
Oh, that's so much worse.
On an all silver.
We are talking silver wires, okay?
The premiumest of the premium, one meter cable,
and then I am legitimately going to benchmark it
in a way that should actually be meaningful.
Oh.
Yeah, see, that's the part you didn't know, I bet.
No, I thought you were just gonna rag on it.
Yeah, well, I am gonna do that too.
That is unless it actually turns out to perform better
because in my benchmark, there is a chance.
In fact, my benchmark will give it every advantage
because while watching a video
or listening to audio over aforementioned HDMI cable
literally cannot, at least on this earth,
be affected by the silver wires.
I believe that it is possible
if the design of their cable is truly superior
that I will be able to overclock a monitor further with it.
Because monitor overclocking is dependent
on the cleanliness of the signal
as well as the headroom that's left
in the scaler of the monitor.
So my intention is to take a high refresh rate,
high resolution FreeSync monitor,
so it's got a high powered scaler in it,
and then using HDMI 1.4,
I am going to overclock as high as I can
with the silver cable and overclock as high as I can
with a $4 cable from Monoprice.
If it performs better in a repeatable, consistent fashion,
then the cable is superior,
but that won't change anything about-
It won't make it worth $1,000.
It won't make it worth $1,000 in any meaningful way
because you could just get a DisplayPort cable.
And you're not overclocking your home theater
because all the content you're watching on that
runs at 24 to maximum 60 frames per second anyway.
Some of the chat brought up a point saying,
overclock your monitor,
but you just spent $1,000 on a cable,
so why didn't you just buy the better monitor?
That's not the point.
Because you can overclock better than the best monitor.
Yeah.
Huh, huh, all right, huh?
To which you could reply- Also, the point is just,
is the cable better in any possible way at all?
Yes.
And so we are going to do our best to answer that question
that no one cared about
because no one was gonna buy that cable,
who watches our videos, definitively.
So yeah, I don't know, it should be cool.
I'm looking forward to it
because that's the kind of stuff that's really fun for me,
is- That sounds fun.
Is like taking the general wisdom
and actually testing it, which I guarantee you,
I guarantee you, almost every single person
who says expensive HDMI cables are a waste
has never used one,
which doesn't mean that they're wrong.
It doesn't mean they're wrong, okay?
I'm not gonna, it just means they haven't used one.
They're taking what someone else said as the truth.
You're not wrong with me.
I have not used one.
I have not used one.
Yep.
So I'm gonna use one for the first time.
So we should validate our claims.
Yeah.
That's what the workshop's all about.
Do you wanna try it too?
Sure.
Okay, we'll both try it.
We'll try it together.
We'll have like an, we'll audition the cable.
We'll have like a listening party.
Check out how danceable it is.
Ooh.
Ooh.
What if no one's ever gonna get that reference?
Oh, I think so.
I think that's pretty, I think that's pretty famous.
The danceable cables.
Expensive cables.
You should.
Oh no.
No.
Heavens no.
All right, so let's jump into, ooh, this is great.
This was posted by Good Bytes on the forum.
I swear, I think he would actually curl up into a ball
and die if someone else beat him to the punch
on some like positive Microsoft news.
And this is some pretty positive Microsoft news.
The HP Elite X3, we talked about the leaks last week,
but obviously there are more details, is announced
and it is designed to be your Windows phone,
laptop, and desktop.
To which my reply would be, sorry, Good Bytes
and everyone else who thinks this is relevant.
This is not relevant.
We're not there yet.
It's running a Snapdragon 820.
It is running four gigs of RAM.
It's got, hold on, I'm gonna have to...
Being slow to switch between scenes for some reason.
Four gigs of RAM is not nearly enough.
Well, it's not...
The amount of tabs that I run on my desktop.
Cashable desktop experience.
Okay, it's not nearly enough for me.
No, it's not nearly enough for you, but it's also a phone.
I need like 32 gigs of RAM for my tabs, bro.
Me too, sadly enough.
I run out of the 16 gigs of RAM
on my computer upstairs sometimes.
You like infected me.
I used to be great.
I'd have like five tabs open at a time.
Lots of tabs is great.
And then I used to laugh at you
because you'd have way too many tabs open
and now I have like four windows of the same browser
and they all have too many.
You wanna hear the truth?
What?
You got busier.
Yeah, it's true.
And it's not about being too busy to close a tab.
It's about that you're legitimately working on
every single thing that's open in a tab.
And when you get that busy,
you start to think about your time very differently.
The three seconds that it takes to type in a URL
is not worth the organization
of not just having that tab open already.
And when you're really busy
and you work on the same tasks repeatedly,
you actually, you learn.
You remember where it is.
Yeah, tab number one is my work Gmail.
Tab number two is usually my second work Gmail
for when I need to reply to something.
Tab number three is gonna be my personal Gmail.
Well, no, not my personal, my YouTube personal Gmail.
Tab number four is this.
And you actually, and so it's like this chunk
is usually like something I was working on a while ago
and then I need to get back to.
This chunk is what I'm working on right now.
It's not that hard to find things.
It's faster than opening up a new tab.
I have a whole window for forum management,
which has like the tiered system
that you were just talking about.
Yep.
I have a whole window for like emails and like,
so like work email, I have work email inbox,
and then I have work email like working on whatever this is.
So like- Social land.
Yep, yep, yep, social land.
Like whatever music is currently going on,
all that kind of stuff's in that window.
Then I have like working on video A
and then working on video B.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
Tab life.
And all of those have stacked, yeah.
Tab life.
Ridiculous.
All right, so back to the Elite X3, which for-
Firefox crashes like four times a day.
Well, that's cause it's Firefox.
Chrome has its own issues though.
My Chrome at home is just brain explosion,
like total brain explosion.
My Chrome on my laptop has another, has an issue too.
Like whenever I VNC into our servers,
Chrome, it's the one computer it doesn't work perfectly on.
It's just-
Just ridiculous.
Remember the whole idea behind Chrome.
Remember the commercials?
Apparently you forgot-
Wait, wait.
No, I'm gonna get back to that.
I have not forgotten.
It's sitting there with the new notifications
waiting for me to hit that.
Oh yeah, the light, yeah.
Yeah.
It's not.
Yeah.
So let's talk about the Elite X3 though.
The most powerful Windows 10 mobile device you can get.
4150 milliamp power battery.
That I like.
5.96 inch AMOLED, quad HD display,
quad core Qualcomm, blah, blah, blah.
64 gigs of storage expandable to two terabytes with micro SD.
Although if you're storing two terabytes of data
on a micro SD card, you need to reevaluate your strategy.
That's a really terrible idea.
I don't, I can't think of anything
that could be enough to be two terabytes,
but that could be unimportant enough
to put on a micro SD card.
I could be wrong.
It's got a 16 megapixel rear camera,
eight megapixel front camera, Windows Hello,
Iris and fingerprint scanners.
That's pretty darn cool.
IP67 rating for dust and waterproof,
military standard 810 rating, one meter drop.
Very nice.
Qi and PMA wireless charging.
Holy freaking crap.
BitLocker encryption, image encryption.
Yes, and here's where we get
into the really interesting stuff.
Because it has continuum,
it allows you to either wiredly or,
oh yeah, USB 3.0 type C, way to go.
Wiredly, shut up.
Wiredly or wirelessly, you're so mean.
Connect to a couple of accessories that HP has.
So one is this dock that I forget what it's called.
It has a stupid name.
HP really needs to learn from Apple.
Have a cool name, Pencil.
Have a pretentious name.
Because for better or for worse,
it helps me remember it.
That gives you a display port,
which by the way can be adapted to HDMI.
Two full-size powered USB 3.0 ports
with device charging capability.
One USB type C connector and a Kensington lock.
And then there's actually a laptop
that has no actual system in it.
And it has a 12 and a half inch screen,
keyboard touchpad speakers, headphone jack,
ethernet port, two full-size USB 3 connectors,
one USB 3.0 type C connector,
and a 48 watt hour battery
that does not feature its own CPU.
The phone actually transmits to the laptop wirelessly,
so you can keep it in your pocket
once it is connected to the laptop.
Very, very cool.
So hold on a second Linus, that sounds awesome
and it sounds like you're amped on this.
Great point, except the reason I'm not amped
is because it needs two more generations
and this is not HP's fault,
this is Intel's fault for not getting their head in the game
on their mobile x86 processors.
Tell me about this when it runs x86.
Because the beauty of Windows
is the application compatibility.
The Achilles heel of Windows Mobile
is the application compatibility.
I mean, I was just, I was browsing aimlessly on the internet
and I came across an article that The Verge did
on the apps that are not only not developing
for Windows Mobile, but pulling their apps.
And it was like terrible,
it was like American Airlines, like Pinterest,
like it was just like devastating,
devastating apps that are discontinuing development
or flat out pulling their apps from the platform
citing a lack of users as the reason for it.
So until you can tell me about x86, Intel powered phones,
I'm really not that interested.
But when you can, wow, am I ever excited about this.
Like as someone who carries around a supremely OP laptop,
I also have recognized that other than my Chrome
hungry hungry hippoing,
I don't need that much power when I'm out and about.
So something like this could be fantastic
if it has compatibility for all the stupid junk
I needed to run.
And is maybe a little bit more powerful.
And is maybe a little bit more powerful
because give it two more generations,
we're gonna have eight or 16 gigs of RAM in it.
We're gonna have a more powerful CPU.
We're gonna have everything that I can imagine today wanting
although my needs might change in the next year.
And year or two, right?
So it might get even worse.
Razer has confirmed they're sending over a Blade Stealth.
We're really late on that.
I actually looked back at my emails and they were like,
let me get back to you tomorrow on availability.
It was like five weeks ago.
So today I was like,
I'm getting requests to review the Blade Stealth.
Like do other people have reviews up?
And there's some people with reviews
that are like almost a month old at this point.
I'm like, yo, are you guys sending one?
They're like, oh, oh yeah.
So they're sending it.
I'm hoping to get my hands on their core
as early as possible.
And I'm gonna cut, yeah, the external GPU box.
So I'm gonna kind of dig a knife into their side
and be like, yeah, you guys got me
the Blade Stealth super late.
So I really think I should be the first with the core.
This is the kind of stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
I don't know how much they like me though,
to be perfectly honest.
Like Razer, like that's the thing is like,
I'll play those games,
but like ultimately when the device arrives,
I'm just gonna say whatever.
Like Razer has gotten some pretty bad reviews
here over the years.
They've also gotten good ones.
They've gotten good ones.
They've gotten really good ones.
Do a better job, get a better review.
They also, with that said, they also at least,
like I don't think they intentionally snubbed me
on the Blade Stealth or like were late on the Blade Stealth
and it was probably just a thing they missed.
They have a pretty mature attitude about it
when we say something negative about their products.
Like that's something that a lot of people
I think worry about because we have relationships
with pretty much every company whose products we review.
Like there's people that we're gonna have to talk to
when we publish a really negative review
and say, yep, well, we didn't like it.
Sorry, that's the reality of it.
We've done that.
We've got some pretty inflammatory stuff back sometimes.
The mounting thing, are we still talking about that?
Which one is that?
The cooler.
The cooler.
I remember it was really hard to install
and we were like, what the hell?
Oh yeah, the, who made that?
Be quiet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So stuff like that, like, yeah,
they weren't happy about that,
but actually it's not like they stopped supplying us
with the review samples.
And that's something that I think viewers,
I hope viewers should recognize and understand
is that even if we say something negative
and even if they don't like it, the mature companies,
the guys like a Corsair or a Razor
are gonna continue to deal with us regardless,
which I think is better for them, better for us
and better for the consumer.
Because ultimately if the company tries to control
what we say, we will make the decision
to either buy the products ourselves
if we think they really need to be covered
or we just won't work with them anymore.
And Astro is a perfect example of that.
I actually covered that in a video
that I don't believe is released yet,
but they straight up never replied to an email from me
after I released a negative review of the A50,
which quite frankly is everything I said it was.
It's just plain not very good.
It was not as good as any of the other wireless headsets
I tested it against.
Like, I'm sorry, I don't make the rules.
It's one of those things where I think it comes down
to the pedigree of the company as well.
Like I like to bring up Corsair
because they do a really good job of being big boys
about it when we don't like something.
With Corsair for like, yeah, we don't like it.
They're like, okay, what can we do better?
Yeah, that's a good point.
Or no, we don't agree and this is why.
Because their pedigree is enthusiasts.
They actually care.
If you look back at Astro and I'm not gonna like,
I'm not gonna make disparaging remarks
or anything like that.
But if you just read their company history,
they are literally a branding firm.
That is literally their core business
that they did and I believe still do
that they just kind of went,
oh, well, we're really good at this.
I'm assuming, making assumption, okay.
That it seems like what they did is they went,
oh, we're really good at just like taking something
and building a brand around it.
So why don't we do that with our own stuff?
And so do I necessarily think that they approached it
with the same level of enthusiasm and engineering adeptness,
skill, knowledge that someone else might?
My perception based on that the product
was straight up not as good as what Corsair
and SteelSeries both brought to the table is no.
So there you go.
That's what I have to say about that.
I don't know how I got on that topic.
When I aimed.
Let's jump into that Twitter blitz
that I had promised to do with you guys before.
So what would you guys wanna see?
A good vibration mode is such a good vibration motor.
Anyway, PCI Express.
I can't say I agree with that one.
What was this question?
What modules do you wanna see?
Oh, that would be.
I forgot the question, but turn it up.
You're correct.
Maybe an antenna upgrade.
That's an interesting thought.
Although I don't think we're antenna limited
the same way we were when we had to pull up
the little thing before we could make a call.
More storage.
Okay, like if you don't want micro SD storage,
like if you want SSD storage, then I could kind of see that.
3D scanner.
That's such a giant add-on module.
Yeah, seems like you wouldn't be,
but you could go, okay, I want more storage and battery.
Or maybe not micro.
You use full size SD, you get like two of them.
Oh no, if it had like an SSD, sorry, SSD.
No, I know, but that would be huge.
No, no, not like two and a half inch SSD.
Like Apple did with the iPhone 6
where it's like you want a little compact SSD.
I could see that.
Desktop grade GPU.
Everything you guys want is terrible, I'm sorry.
Better internet.
Audio module.
An awesome camera.
Okay, it doesn't really work that way.
It's just a module that kind of like slides into the bottom.
But to Ali here, like when phone blocks,
when and if phone blocks becomes a thing,
that's the kind of stuff that that'll do.
Yono Jono wants the audio module.
A physical keyboard.
I feel like a powered amp.
Alex, the S7 uses micro USB because of the Gear VR.
Yep, that makes perfect sense.
Thank you for pointing that out.
That doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.
They could really send you a version of the Gear VR.
Decent front facing speakers.
Okay, it's a little module that slides into the bottom.
So I don't know how well that's gonna work.
I love you guys, but I think maybe we should have shown
a better picture of the thing that we were doing.
Thank you for that.
$1,000 HDMI, you should.
Better phone.
All Linus videos all the time.
Stylus module?
Windows and VM with Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
Okay.
Infrared.
Two micro SD.
Two more micro SDs.
So hang in there, Tony.
Read the reviews off Amazon.
Oh, people, everyone's talking.
Okay.
So that was one of our less successful Twitter blitz.
Usually you guys have a lot of like really,
really great suggestions,
but it probably would have helped if I'd shown better.
So when in the chat said a type C module.
A type C module.
Doesn't the G5 use type C already?
Let me check.
I'm not sure.
I missed that part.
Yeah.
That's a lot of notes, bro.
Not in my notes.
So if it's already got a USB connector
and quite frankly, if it supports wireless charging,
it's less of the crappy durability of the micro B
is less of an issue for me.
It could be kind of cool though.
If the charger for the phone was modular,
just in case you screwed the charger up
by like having it in your pocket
and having it torque or whatever,
if you could be like, oh, well.
Right.
And it's like, yeah, I'm eating, you know,
60 bucks or whatever overpriced price tag
they want to put on something like that.
At least I don't have to buy a whole new phone.
At least I don't have to buy a whole new one.
Before we jump into our next topic,
now's a perfect opportunity to talk about FreshBooks.
People in the chat are saying it's type C.
Okay, it is type C.
Thank you for that then.
I thought so, but it wasn't in my notes
so I couldn't double check.
FreshBooks is the easy to use invoicing software
that helps small businesses look professional
and get paid faster.
Not only will you look more professional,
you will be more professional
because it helps you stay organized
about the way that you're spending your time,
the way that you bill people.
And if you just like walk up with like a paper invoice
and go like, please give me a check or cash,
it doesn't look nearly as professional
if you have like a system already in place.
You look fly by night compared to if you have like a,
like you can take credit card or you can take check,
but looking flexible is a huge part
of looking like a bigger business.
Like looking like you're successful is,
and it's kind of a funny thing
because there's gotta be people on earth who would go,
oh, that contractor takes credit card,
therefore he or she must overcharge by two and a half percent
in order to compensate for the credit card fee.
There's probably someone on earth
who literally finds the contractor
who only does paper invoices and checks
because they go, that's my kind of cheapskate.
But-
I want them to use the worst materials.
But to the rest of the world,
looking like you've got your stuff together
and like that you can afford to have proper systems in place
for things like invoicing and payment,
it really helps your professional image
and gives people more confidence to book with you.
So whether you're doing small time computer repair
or whether you are teaching dance lessons
or whether you're a plumber
or just a general laborer, contractor, landscaper,
FreshBooks lets you keep track of all that stuff
in one place in the cloud, send invoices,
get read confirmations
so that you know that they've got your invoices
and even allows people to pay by credit card
through FreshBooks.
So if that sounds great
and you wanna take your business to the next level,
get organized, save time,
spend your time doing the work that makes the money
instead of calculating the money
that you already did work for,
then head over to freshbooks.com slash when
to claim your free trial today.
That's actually the most frustrating thing
when like, especially when you're starting a new business
and you're just like,
I need to do as much as I possibly can.
You don't wanna just like sit there and do paperwork.
Nope, paperwork.
Paperwork is a bummer.
You know what's not a bummer though?
Squarespace.com.
Squarespace is the website builder that-
You should.
Use if you wanna build a beautiful website today.
All you've gotta do is pick from their wide variety
of different templates and whether you wanna build a blog
or a store or a personal portfolio
or any other type of website
that you could possibly wanna build.
They've even, they've got the store module
actually built into,
I believe it's all of the templates at this point.
Then-
You should.
Use one of those Squarespace templates,
create your website, use the online builder tool,
which is so easy that even I can do it.
And all, and then I'm trying to set it up
and I can't do it.
My brain's not working fast enough today.
So you set up your website, get it live.
And the stability of it in our experience
has been absolutely fantastic.
If you're having trouble with it,
then-
You should.
Contact their tech support,
which is available 24 seven via live chat and email.
And-
You should.
Head over to squarespace.com
and use offer code Linus today to save 10%
and build your website for the first two weeks for free
to decide if-
You should.
Go ahead and extend it for the full year,
which by the way, we'll be including,
we'll include a free domain,
which is an offer that-
You should.
Definitely take advantage of.
Although you should.com is probably taken.
So Squarespace.
You should.
Build it beautiful.
Good job.
That's difficult.
Not for me, for you, that's difficult.
When my brain's working faster,
I'm not having a fast brain day today.
When my brain's working faster,
I can handle it a lot better.
Hopefully you speed up before the-
On the shoot tonight.
Yeah, that's gonna be rough.
All right.
So we've got a video coming on this.
You filmed this, right?
The Valve VR performance test.
Okay, so the OP is not filled out here.
Original article here is from KitGuru.
But Valve released their VR performance test.
It's that portal-based demo
that I got an opportunity to do at CES.
And the point of it is basically to determine
if you have the horses to run in VR.
With the conclusion being that the odds are excellent
that you indeed do not.
Luke's got a video coming out
where he talks about this benchmark
as well as I think you're gonna encourage people
to create a database of-
Yeah, so you should still watch the video,
but what it really kind of boils down to
is that we have a fantastic Cinebench community
on the forum.
I think it's made by Jumper118.
Hopefully I remember that correctly.
And it's awesome.
There's over 500 submissions.
Everyone submits their Cinebench codes.
I actually look at that every once in a while
just to check where things are sitting.
It's pretty cool.
And I wanna create the same kind of thing
based around Steam VR performance test results.
Figure out how ready the actual enthusiast community is.
Cause there's problems and I go over it in the video.
Yep.
Cause as interesting as the Steam Hardware Survey is,
I have a lot of machines personally.
Yeah.
A big part of the video talks about-
They're not gaming machines.
Yeah, junk data that's in the Hardware Survey.
Which isn't necessarily junk data for game developers
that aren't developing for VR,
but how many machines do you have
that you actually intend to play VR games on?
Probably one or zero.
And I have like seven machines
in the Hardware Survey at least.
Yep.
So like, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, with the number of test benches that I set up,
I've gotta have dozens in there.
Yeah.
To be perfectly honest.
Yeah.
All right.
The unthinkable has happened.
Radeon and GeForce together in DirectX 12.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
So this is the DX 12 explicit multi GPU mode.
And the way that it supposedly works
is that it takes any DirectX 12 compliance device
and utilizes its resources in the best way possible.
Oh wow, we need to go pretty soon.
In the best way possible for a performance boost
that is not reliant in any way on SLI
or Crossfire and can indeed work
across mixed vendor multi GPU setups.
So PC World tested it out
and this feature is gonna, it's still in beta by the way,
but it will make its debut in Ashes of the Singularity,
which is launching next month.
And so Gordon Mott PC World benchmarked
with a resolution of 2560 by 1600 with the crazy presets.
Two GTX 980s with SLI, a single GTX 980,
a single Fury X and GTX 980 plus Fury X.
Which will be the really interesting one.
Got the results here.
So the GTX 980 plus Fury X actually performed the best
at 56.3 frames per second with the 980 plus 980 SLI
off multi GPU on outperforming 980 plus 980 SLI on.
Now with that said, this is just like an FPS graph.
FPS average, not like, yeah, we need PC per.
Yeah, we need Captain Shroud to have a look
at the frame times, tell us if there's stuttering
or micro stuttering or any kind of other anomaly
in this data that is not evident unless you're using
a capture device and Nvidia's tool in order to see.
Because like something like this where it's a technology,
there's a new technology that we need a much deeper dive
to figure out what's actually going on.
And if Nvidia could just go, okay, balls to the wall,
here we go, we're gonna use all the processing power
of the GPUs, I suspect they would.
But they've been really focused,
like all their messaging about SLI since the launch
of the 980 has been about smoothness, butter smooth,
consistency of the frame delivery,
not necessarily about the frame rate.
They deliver good frame rates, there's no doubt of that,
but that's not what they're talking about
and not what they're focused on when it comes to driver
and hardware development right now.
So it's possible that that frame rate is not meaningful.
It's also possible that this is like bananas
and the coolest thing ever sort of.
Because there is one big caveat and that is that
the developer has to specifically implement this feature.
And based on how many developers even today
are still not working with Nvidia and AMD
on Crossfire or SLI support, never let alone at launch,
like at all, I don't have much hope
for this being like the way forward for gaming.
And building your system based around the idea
that whatever game you're gonna play
has this enabled is crazy.
Unless you only plan to play games that are already out.
Yeah, so yeah.
This was posted on the forum by Cloaked
and the original article here is from Business Insider.
A 19 year old made a free robot lawyer
that has appealed $3 million in parking tickets in the UK.
Pretty cool, so.
The government's super stoked about this kid's robot.
Yeah, so that's awesome.
So hiring a lawyer for a parking ticket appeal
is not only a headache,
but can cost more than just paying the ticket,
which is one of the things that they rely on.
It's way less hassle to just pay the ticket
than it is to try and fight it.
However, with the help of this robot
created by Joshua Browder, who is 19 years old,
all you have to do is give the robot some information
and it asks you these questions
and generates an appeal letter,
which you then mail to the court
without ever requiring a lawyer to draft the letter.
It can also help with delayed or canceled flights
or on payment protection insurance claims.
And he's working to program US city laws into the bot,
starting with New York.
For everything.
I know, right?
Browder doesn't think that robots will be dealing
in the US Supreme Court anytime soon,
but he says, fewer lawyers will do mundane tasks
and people will save money on stupid little disputes,
which I absolutely love.
Not only that, but it learns.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah, so the more people use the robot,
the more intelligent it becomes.
So I guess anytime it fails at something,
it might analyze why?
I'm not sure exactly how it learns,
but entrepreneurs are already talking to Browder
about implementing the bot into cars.
So I'm not sure exactly why you would need
to be able to dispute your ticket directly from the...
I guess people that want to deal with it immediately.
I guess so.
Or maybe if there's new cars
where they don't just have to put a ticket on your dash,
where they can like give your car the ticket.
And then you can dispute it completely automatically.
I don't know, man.
I can't see ImPark being that stoked on that.
No, I don't care if ImPark is stoked on anything though.
Yeah, me neither.
I hate those guys.
They're so freaking annoying.
All right.
I've never even gotten a ticket from them,
and I hate them.
This kind of sucked.
You were actually in the middle of working on something
that used-
Oh my God.
Mint Linux last week.
So this was posted by Pandolf on the forum,
and the Mint Linux ISO download was compromised.
So if you installed Mint off of that ISO,
it actually had a back door in it.
Can you explain how the crap, something like that happens?
It wouldn't even actually be that hard
if they had access to the server
where people are downloading the ISOs from,
and they just replace the ISO with one of theirs
that has extra stuff on it.
That's kind of all they need.
And I mean, even the most conscientious
downloader who's checking the MD5 checksums.
I mean, if they can just replace the MD5 checksum
on the download server,
then you have no way of checking
that the ISO you downloaded is actually compromised.
So I was using Mint.
It doesn't actually matter.
I could use a huge array of other things,
but it's just frustrating
because I had to start not quite from scratch,
but I had to redownload other things.
I had to redownload other things
and reset up my whatever, and things sucked.
That video is not gonna be coming for a while.
DocsWag posted this one on the forum.
The original article here is from WCCF Tech.
Dang it, Brandon.
Actually, it's fine.
Open the mic.
Okay, hold on.
I think our stream computer
is running off of the UPS right now.
What just happened?
No, no, no, we're not.
We do have power.
Why doesn't that have power?
Okay, and that's not working anymore?
Okay, because it's not on at all.
You know that, right?
It's not even glowing slightly.
This looks kind of cool.
Yeah, it's like a Wancho Noir.
Halloween edition.
We need a-
I kind of like it.
We should do like a really-
Where's my phone?
Yeah, I want to do like a spooky story.
We should do like a really serious Wancho.
I don't know where your phone is.
Anyway, so PlayStation VR.
Effectively 60% more powerful
than an equally specced PC, apparently.
Very, very interesting.
The way that they're achieving this
is the usual console advantage.
So with the lower level access to the hardware,
with the fact that game developers
can program for a specific set of hardware,
so all those things that we're used to seeing,
but there is also some unexpected secret sauce as well.
So let's go ahead and pull this up.
So Sony's Richard Marks held a presentation
during the AR VR Vision Summit, February 10th to 11th,
and the presentation provided an overview of PlayStation VR
and the basic development process.
Apparently, thanks to the fixed hardware,
the latency is extremely low.
We're talking less than 18 milliseconds,
which doesn't sound that low to me.
There's some problems with this.
It's got a 100 degree field of view.
I do wonder if that's a typo in our notes though.
That is possible.
Super low latency of less than 18 milliseconds.
Mind you, if that's-
End to end.
If that's end to end, that's pretty damn impressive.
Yeah, that's probably end to end.
Okay, 100 degree field of view,
which is, yeah, okay.
Like that's not too shabby.
I haven't tried Project Morpheus, so.
Now the 60% more powerful than same spec PC point
was apparently reported by middleware providers, not Sony,
and has also been confirmed by a VR developer on Reddit.
Brandon, I really don't think that light is on.
Okay.
Who said, PSVR is extremely close to being on par
with Vive and the Rift with a GTX 970
based on the tests that I've done.
Wow.
So if your app runs at 90 Hertz on a PC with a GTX 970,
then you should be very close to 60 on the PS4.
And with the 120 Hertz reproduction applied,
it is glassy smooth.
So PSVR only required about one quarter
of the render target size that Vive requires.
The PS4 has hardly any driver overhead compared to Windows.
The draw calls on the PS4 are faster
than with DirectX 11 on a PC.
I noticed that DirectX 12
is being conveniently ignored here.
There's also a 20% buffer for classified techniques
that further reduce the render target size.
So the Vive render target is 457 million pixels per second.
So that's 1512 by 1680 times two times 90 Hertz.
Whereas the PSVR is approximately a million,
1920 by 1080 by 60 minus approximately 20%.
But we don't know what that 20% is.
Yeah.
If-
I'ma just wait till they come out.
Yeah.
I mean, to say that a 60 to 120 Hertz up-sampling,
or what are they calling this?
Reproduction.
Reproduction works well.
We'll see.
Yeah, we'll see.
I mean, even for video playback,
I have found that those kinds of clear motion technologies
are very, they're great as long as the motion is predictable
and the processor, which by the way,
doesn't operate at 18 milliseconds.
As long as you give that TV's processor a lot of time,
and as long as the motion is predictable,
can actually be like, wow, I didn't know
that there weren't actually more frames
in the original content.
Like very believable, but something as unpredictable
as a game, an interactive medium.
We'll see.
Yeah, I mean, I want to try it, that's for sure.
That would be cool.
It might sound a little bit weird coming from me,
but that would be absolutely fantastic
because right now what VR needs mostly
is just wide adoption.
So if a huge amount of PlayStation players get behind it
and then VR becomes a super normal thing, sick.
Yeah, great.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Bring it on to the mainstream.
I'll believe it more when I see it, but awesome.
The OP here is Mr. Troll and the Gears of War on the Xbox.
Mr. Troll and the Gears of War Ultimate Edition PC
gets screenshots, file size and requirements.
Apparently the ideal specs are 16 gigs of RAM
with a 980 TI or an R9 390X.
Wow.
To be fair though, the minimum specs go down
to a 650 TI and a 260X.
Which is exactly how PC games should be.
They should scale all the way down
for people who don't have the horses
and they should scale all the way up
for the people who are investing all this money
into a gaming experience that they wanna have
that games refuse to deliver because of the consoles.
Because the ideal specs are like a chunk
above the recommended specs.
Yes.
Which is sick, super down with that.
Yeah, so minimum is 650 TI with an AMD FX6 Core
or a Core i5 at 2.7 gigahertz.
Recommended is a GTX 970.
Which is actually the highest percentage graphics card
on the Steam Hardware Survey.
Yeah, yep.
So like, sure.
So like, I get it, okay.
I'm stoked, because I've never played Gears of War.
I played one of them, very possibly the first one.
Well, I'm stoked, I'm gonna play it.
I haven't actually played a game in the last little while,
so I'm gonna play that.
That's my objective.
Okay, really interesting article.
This one was posted by Patrick3027 on the forum.
Original article here is from TorrentFreak.
Software Piracy Hurts Linux Adoption Research Fines.
Most of the research, sometimes it's research,
into piracy is focused on determining
how it hurts paid software options,
like Microsoft Office or like, you know, Adobe.
Wow, I can't remember.
Oh, that kind of.
Why can't I remember what Premiere,
or Adobe Premiere.
I was trying to figure out for so long
how this would even be possible,
but now I totally get it.
Yeah, so this new research suggests
that software piracy has a detrimental effect
on the adoption of the Linux desktop operating systems.
And I would go as far as to say that A,
that makes total sense.
Oh yeah.
And B, that you could say the same thing
about any free software.
Oh yeah.
So free software is driven by user base.
They benefit from whether it's ad supported
or whether it's donation supported,
the more people who use it, the better.
And if people run out and just pirate paid software,
then what they're effectively doing
is they are taking the wind out of the sails
of open source or a free to use software developers,
which is a really interesting new way to think about that.
So the way that they tackled it was they looked at,
actually the notes for this one are not very good,
but they looked at it on a regional basis.
So they went, okay,
this country has an estimated piracy rate of this.
They accounted for factors such as the GDP of the country
and local anti-piracy efforts,
and estimated that the number of Linux users
would increase by 50% if all piracy disappeared.
I'm surprised it's that low.
I think that a lot of people pirate
simply because they can,
not because they can't afford the software.
So I think that's why they're trying to factor in
things like the country's GDP and average income.
When I did, I'll admit to that,
it was completely because I couldn't afford the software.
Right.
Like 100%, there was no way.
There was, it was a mix for me when I did.
Like there was, there was definitely some,
I straight up-
There's also ease of use things.
I straight up can't afford this.
And then there was other, like, you know what?
Actually, you know what?
I did pay for Vista.
I was going to say stuff like Windows Vista where it's like,
yeah, I'm going to use this for like a bit
and I'm probably going to go back to XP.
So.
I've pirated to test things.
I did pay.
I did pay for Vista though.
I liked Vista.
It was fun.
Well, cause you had a super OP computer.
Yes, I did.
I don't want to get into that conversation.
And that's the other thing too,
is I think that's where the piracy,
because I can't afford it argument gets really inexcusable,
is like, if you went and spent a bunch of money
on your computer and you can't afford $100
for a Windows license, then, then I don't know
how your computer budgeting worked and all of that.
Are we done?
Do we need to go?
Yeah, I think that's pretty much it.
We should probably, should probably get crack-a-lackin'.
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