And I think we're live,
but this is really, really scary.
Wow.
Because theoretically we are live
on both Twitch and YouTube.
Oh.
At the same time.
Do we even have the engine power for that?
Yes, we do.
We have very much,
and it's called computer processing power
because one does not go live on the internet with an engine.
You're thinking of driving down the road.
Oh.
But that's okay.
I forgive you for being not quite as technical.
I thought for sure it was engines.
I don't know what-
How many cores?
Password is for this.
Okay, I managed to guess it.
Yay.
All right.
I can figure out the rest.
I have a special guest co-host today.
Who?
It looks like we are live on Twitch.
So that's good,
but I have no idea if we are live on YouTube.
And because I don't really watch YouTube videos,
I actually don't even know how to find out.
If we're live on YouTube,
I guess I could go to the dashboard and view the channel.
Yes, my friends.
That sounds insane.
This will be the first week, theoretically.
Yes, we are live right now.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
So this is the first week
that we are live on both Twitch TV and YouTube.
And we had a lot of our viewers express concern
that Twitch was going to kick us out of the cool kids club,
and they could very well do that.
But unfortunately there just isn't a whole lot
that we can do about it.
So we had a couple of options.
There's a service that you can use
where you can push to this external service
and then it will propagate
to all the different services that you want.
But being the big nerds that we are around here,
what we ended up doing was putting a virtual machine
on one of our servers that runs an RTMP server.
So it's some NGINX thing.
And then, what's that?
Is that Anthony?
Nope.
Oh, okay.
I thought I heard Anthony's voice
and I assumed there was some kind of catastrophic problem.
You're always on the lookout for an Anthony or two.
Yeah, because he basically,
he and Jake actually worked together
to get everything set up for this week.
And-
Going to Twitch and YouTube.
Yes, and we didn't have it working as of one hour ago.
Oh, wow.
When it has something to do with the NGINX config.
Basically the way that we determine
which services we're streaming to
is by copy pasting a particular string into the server.
And we copy pasted the wrong thing or something apparently.
It's not like there's no UI for it.
It's all just like command line.
There should be copy paste spell check.
Yeah, there should be.
Thank you.
That's me.
Riley's on the WAN Show today.
Yeah, Riley's on the WAN Show today.
That's my contribution.
I don't know how much he actually knows about the topics,
but- I haven't looked at these at all.
Yeah, but he's pretty.
So that's- Hey!
That's what qualified him to fill in for Luke and James,
both of whom are not here today.
That means a lot coming from you, blindness.
You're very welcome.
So anyway, so we're live on both Twitch and YouTube,
which there's different encoding settings
that are optimal for each platform.
So basically what the server does
is we stream into our server
and then our server encodes it in the most optimal way
for each platform while also recording
a local high quality copy of the original stream for itself.
And then the machine that we're streaming from,
so in this case, it's this box right over here,
the one that we actually did a video on it.
We built our Corsair RGB WAN Show streaming PC
a little while ago.
So that is also gonna save
a high quality local copy to itself.
So the idea is that we are streaming
to our multiple services
and we are saving at least two original quality copies
at any given time.
So we shouldn't run into a situation again
where we'll screw up and we'll lose the WAN Show,
which actually hasn't happened in a long time,
but it had happened at times in the past.
Well, that sounds real fancy.
Yes, thank you.
So you know what, let's just roll the intro.
You are enjoying the heckling is for techling.
Yeah, well now I get to, the tables have turned.
Ha ha.
Nope, nope, they can't see you.
Swamps don't give me swamp butt because I'm always ready.
We really gotta redo this.
That's really old.
It's great.
Well, we used to have different versions of it.
It was supposed to be like a Simpsons intro thing
where there was a different one
like every other week. Oh, like there would be
a different thing every time?
Yeah.
Like the line effective intro.
And then we just never did this.
You have to say the sponsors.
No, well, theoretically I should.
Honey, FreshBooks, Savage, Durky.
I will talk in more depth about our sponsors
on the WAN Show later.
Honey, FreshBooks, Savage, Durky.
It sounds like the beginning of a rhyme,
but I won't continue.
You know what, I kind of want to find the old intro
and show it to you guys.
Here it is.
WAN intro.mov.
Oh Lord.
Oh no.
These are some very old.
Apple makes MOVs.
You don't want to play those.
You know what?
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's...
We're getting wild.
Yeah, we're going to go through.
We're going to dig through the WAN Show folder
on the server.
Whoa.
We're going to find us some assets here.
Buckle in, strap in boys and gals.
Hey, no, this could actually be cool.
Don't make fun of me.
This is neat.
I'm not, I'm just narrating.
So we're digging through the archive.
So here's the WAN Show.
So here's the intro.
Yeah, there we go.
Let me adjust the size of these here thumbnails there.
So here's the swamp intro.
So this is the one you're probably familiar with.
I'm just going to mute my computer here.
Yeah, there we go.
So there we go.
So that's the one that you're familiar with, but there was.
Few people probably remember this
but there was a version before this.
WAN intro OG.
Oh, pyramids.
He's walking, he's walking in the sand.
And now there's a trap.
Oh, I remember seeing that.
Yeah.
So-
But that's the same.
So Ed actually, I think,
powered by Razer coms.
Oh wow.
That everyone still uses.
So Ed actually revealed this, I think in a,
oh no, that video is the GPD Pocket 2.
Is that live yet?
Yes, it is.
So Ed revealed his secret.
I don't know if it actually made it
into the final cut of the video,
but he was like, yeah,
the way to use copyrighted artwork
is you turn it into pixel art.
And I'm like.
Oh, so is that pyramids thing?
So those pyramids are actual pyramids.
Don't say that.
Oh, Ed's a little.
Pirate.
So yeah, so these,
these are actual pyramids.
I mean, good luck ever figuring out what picture.
This is an actual wall.
Those are the real pyramids.
Yeah, and this is a real spike.
No, that's not a real spike.
That would be pretty sad.
It's a fake spike.
Well, that would be a pretty impressive program
that could turn a picture of a real wall of spikes
into that.
Yeah, into that, yeah.
So, so that was,
that was Ed's like master, like deception.
So he was like, oh yeah,
we could do a new one, like all the time.
This takes like 30 seconds to just steal artwork
and then turn it into pixel art.
I think somebody would have caught on eventually.
For shame Edzell.
Yeah, he doesn't want us to call it stealing.
Sorry, borrowing with style.
Wow, Toy Story reference.
Okay, cool.
This isn't stealing, it's borrowing with style.
That would be a very different movie
if that was what the actual line was.
Buzz Lightyear is a master thief.
So we got a lot of great topics for you guys today
and also some pretty mediocre ones, I think.
The US courts say that price caps don't apply
to areas with only one ISP.
We have a lot of notes on that.
Also, this is a rumor,
there's a lot of hearsay here,
that Nvidia will be controlling
their ad in Bortner partners,
controlling their ability to seed the upcoming RTX cards
to the press through driver distribution.
And Tom's Hardware wrote a real funny article.
It was hilarious.
Yeah, it was hilarious if it was on the onion.
A lot of people thought it should have belonged
on the onion, that's for sure.
What else we got?
Global Foundries halts seven nanometer development.
It's a big deal.
They've been on the leading edge of development for a while
and now they're not.
AMD has moved to TSMC for all of their manufacturing needs.
Okay, so normally we do the intro
after we introduce the topics for the day,
but clearly that isn't going to happen today
because we already ran it.
We could run it again for fun,
but we've already run it a couple of times.
If you were paying attention, it already happened.
All right, so why don't we jump right into, how are you?
I'm good.
I've actually hardly, believe it or not,
I see Riley very little.
Yeah, honestly, when you were like,
Colton was like, are you going to host the WAN show today?
I was like, with Linus?
I haven't even like talked to him the whole time
I was here basically.
We've had like little conversations.
Yeah, we had a couple of meetings
and then like at the beginning
where a lot of you probably noticed
there were some issues
with some of the early episodes of TechLinked.
Like I think the very first one that I'm the heckler,
I'm just like talking like every 10 seconds
and it's very annoying.
We were figuring out the format and whatnot,
who's heckling.
Trying to find the right dynamic, that wasn't it.
There was also an early one.
Now this was a really frustrating story
because do you remember the one
where we mic'd up the heckler?
Yes.
Okay, so we had a lot of people,
like quite literally everyone who watched it.
We had a lot of people not like
that the person off camera was also mic'd up.
Yeah.
So it created this weird, like disembodied voice.
Right, and I think it was too loud in those episodes.
It was too loud.
Because I think now where we're at
is we don't have the heckler mic'd,
but it's also that like you can't really hear them that well.
So we might, I was gonna talk to Edsel about like
miking them, but like making it quiet, I don't know.
Well, that was the intention that time.
Yeah, it didn't really work.
We never intended for the heckler to just sound,
so I specifically asked Dennis, I said,
hey, so I'm mic'ing myself up, yeah, it was me.
So I'm mic'ing myself up today to be the heckler,
but I need to make sure because we don't want it to be like,
like they're also hosting the video.
Right.
I need to make sure, is it quick for you
to add reverb and turn down the volume
so that it sounds like they're off camera?
He goes, oh yeah, no problem.
And I go, oh, good.
And then I watched the video.
I'm like, read scrolling through the comments.
I'm like, wait, wait, what?
We never did it.
So you're blaming Dennis for this?
Oh, 100%.
I asked him the next day, he's like,
oh, I didn't have time.
And I'm like, Dennis is a pure soul.
So I'm sitting here going, I asked you if it's quick.
That's why I asked you if it's quick.
Because I knew you wouldn't have a lot of time.
All we would need to do is just set up another boom mic.
But it's like, yeah.
But then it's like we have two mics on one set up.
We can't afford to do that.
Yeah, we actually can.
We actually have a couple of NTG2s.
No, that's too, it's way too crazy.
I don't think we've used them in a couple of years.
You'd have to get the mic out of the package,
put it on the stand.
It's just, don't get me started.
You know what's really funny is when Linus Media Group first
started, I would go into the NCIX studio
and I would be very envious of all of the equipment
that NCIX Tech Tips had.
That was just like strewn around in random places?
Just in general, like there was so much gear.
What do you, what?
Like computer gear.
Oh, you mean in the early days.
Yeah, like when Linus Media Group first started.
I thought you were talking about like, when I was there,
I was like, what are you talking about?
We had one camera, two lights.
We owned one microphone.
Meanwhile, NCIX Tech Tips had like wireless microphones
and like this high tech stuff.
Oh yeah, NCIX at the forefront of technology.
And then it was just, it was fun.
The contrast at the end there,
when I went to the NCIX bankruptcy auction.
You felt like good.
You're like walking in, you're like,
these guys ain't got anything.
And your guys' primary microphone,
which was a Rode NTG2, right?
That's right.
Yeah, your guys' primary microphone was sitting there
up for auction.
Oh, right at the auction.
It was up for auction.
I wanted to go to the auction.
And I was like, oh, quaint.
An NTG2, I remember those.
Or is it NT2, NT2 or NTG?
I think it's NT.
NTG2, I think.
Is it NT, whatever.
Pretty sure.
Rode.
Yeah, Rode NT, NTG2.
I think it is NTG2.
Okay, good.
Well, anyway, anyway, I was like, oh, quaint.
We have a couple of those.
I don't think we've used them in a while, in a while.
Oh, perhaps we should,
we can have it as an antique on set.
Perhaps we should buy it.
NTG2's still really good.
And perhaps we should buy their employees as well.
Well, one of them, well, you've had a few of them now.
Yeah, have I?
Well, Ivan.
Oh yeah, that's right.
We have Ivan.
This is strictly speaking work for the Tech Tips team.
What the heck did Ivan do?
He was actually helping with a lot of the scripts
at the end of the-
Was he even getting paid for that?
Oh, well, I don't know.
He was getting paid to do his job.
I don't know if that was like strictly part
of his job description, but he definitely helped a lot,
especially with like graphics card reviews and stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
Love that guy.
So how's it going at Linus Media Group?
I don't think we ever did a mid-year review for you.
Yeah, we did.
You know what, did we?
That's probably the longest conversation we've had
is when you rated my performance.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
So how's it going?
Are you happy?
I'm very happy.
You can tell them that you're not happy, it's fine.
Well, now I'm stressed because this is like
another mid-year review right now.
No, I'm having a great time, honestly.
It's really good to be able to do the tech news
type of content again and make stupid jokes.
Yeah, it's been fun.
And I get to heckle you.
Wait, no, I was, I always heckled you.
Yes.
So that's a little more stressful
is that now I'm getting heckled as well.
Yeah, oh wow.
I used to be able to do the show by myself
and like have no one, like they're all behind the camera,
like they can't say anything.
It's so funny.
So back in the NCIX Tech Tips days,
I never watched their show.
So the only time I would watch Netlinked
was when I was on it because I wanted to see
like the goofball ways that they would edit it.
So you guys would have,
cause you guys might not, I don't know,
I don't know if you guys watched or not,
but what was kind of cool about NCIX Tech Tips
was that we shot it on what was effectively a blue screen.
So what that meant was there was a lot of creativity
in the editing where you could like take something
that was done in the show and you could easily
move it around and manipulate it
and blow it up and shrink it.
So that was actually a really cool thing about it.
It was awesome, we could do so many things.
It was sort of accidentally on purpose
and I can explain the rationale behind
why the entire NCIX Tech Tips studio
was a blue screen and a green screen.
Cause you had a set first,
you had like a background.
Yeah, with like a TV on it and stuff.
And then we kind of moved away from that
and we went to blue and green screen paint even,
like the Roscoe stuff.
Anyway, so where was I going with that?
Right, so I would never watch the episodes
that I wasn't in.
So I had always thought that the heckling,
because they would always give me crap
when I was hosting the video and I would get,
and it's came about because I would give them crap
about things I didn't like about the script
or things that I did like,
but I just wanted to be mean to them.
You certainly did.
And then they would dish it back to me
and it kind of became this fun dynamic.
You thought we did that all the time.
I thought you did it all the time.
Nope.
I thought it was like a fundamental part of the format.
Just for Linus.
So anyway, Riley comes in and hosts,
I think it was your first tech link.
Oh my gosh.
And I start like saying stuff.
Oh, that was horrible.
And he just like stops.
So Riley's like saying something and I'm like,
oh yeah, you know, your mom or whatever.
Yeah, that was so.
No, no, no, the first video that I was on with you,
you were hosting it.
And then we were hosting it together or something.
And I just like didn't understand how to do things.
Or did you do that for my first episode?
You just yelled things at me?
I think I did.
Or maybe it was your second one or something.
I don't remember that at all.
Maybe I was out of the office for your first one,
but no, there was one where I yelled stuff
and you just like, you just froze up every time.
And you would like.
Are you going to edit this out or?
And so what he would do is he would stop
and he'd go back to the beginning of the paragraph.
Because he's like trying to think of what his comeback is
for when I heckle.
Oh, you mean here?
Yeah, here.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, here.
That definitely, yeah, that happened here.
Cause I was just like, what are you doing?
What?
I don't understand, there's a script.
I'm supposed to read the script.
I only know how to dish it out.
I don't know how to take it.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly what the situation was.
So yeah, it's been a lot of fun kind of finding our legs.
I think a couple of the episodes last week,
including one of the ones that I hosted were just awful,
but we're still finding our rhythm.
I think actually the one that I hosted last week
was the worst tech link I've hosted yet.
Well, apparently speaking of Twitch,
the one that I hosted where it's like,
or Steam TV versus Twitch, like that wouldn't,
well, I don't, it didn't do well anyways.
Yeah, I don't think that's it.
The funny thing about Twitch and game streaming,
and I think we talked about this before,
but it's like, I don't blame a video about Twitch
and or game streaming for not doing well,
because it's one of those things where like,
if you're into it, then you're like, oh yeah, Twitch.
Yeah.
Twitch is huge.
I love Twitch.
And then if you're not into it,
I mean, and you're the kind of person
where I'll be at like a family reunion or something
and I'm, oh, and what do you do?
And I'm like, oh, I make videos on YouTube.
Oh, so you work for Google.
Even if they even know that.
And I'm like, no, I don't.
And they're like, oh, so how do you get paid then?
I'm like, well, you know how-
I busk.
You know how on TV, like there's commercials?
There's advertising, yeah.
Okay, like that.
Like, oh, okay.
It's definitely like, I've told people
that I make videos as a job a few times
and they're just like, and do you just do that for fun?
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
Yeah, it is fun.
Yeah, you know, realistically, you know what?
I could do something else.
I could bus tables.
So yes, I'm doing this for fun.
It's not bad.
Well, your feet hurt.
You're on your feet a lot.
Should we talk about some news?
Did you work in the restaurant business?
I did.
Really?
I was only a busser.
Really?
I only bus tables.
I didn't graduate to being a waiter.
I want to know the story here.
Why did they not let you wait tables?
Oh, I don't think I ever want,
I didn't think I ever asked for it specifically.
So you just never aspired to more than busing.
It was Olive Garden.
Do I understand this correctly?
I didn't have career aspirations at Olive Garden.
I see.
But well, is this as much to do with Olive Garden
being one of those places that kind of has a policy
about who waits the tables and what gender they are
and how much boob they have hanging out?
Oh no, no, no.
Olive Garden's not one of those?
I don't think so.
Okay, so it's not Earl's.
You're thinking of Hooters.
No, no.
Yeah.
No, no, no, I'm not, no, not Hooters.
A lot of people think I've worked at Hooters.
I did not.
That's a common misconception.
No, that's not what I mean.
No, I mean, you've been to Cactus Club.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, Olive Garden is like, they wear ties and stuff.
They're very formal, like the...
I will confess.
I don't think I have ever eaten at Olive Garden.
Linus, let me tell you something.
Free breadsticks.
And you get a, and you get a soup or salad
with every entree.
Okay, do you still work for Olive Garden secretly?
Are you a spy?
You get a free soup with your entree.
Are you a secret informant?
Unlimited breadsticks.
It's very bad for you.
Am I a secret informant?
Oh God.
Yep.
Okay, so you bused tables.
Never graduated to waiting.
Never finished the program.
And you know what?
I would like you to talk about the other job
that you actually still have.
Oh yeah, why?
Just because I think people would like
to go and get their fix of Riley.
Oh man, okay.
Okay, so Riley actually only works here part-time,
not because we weren't willing to hire him full-time,
but because he actually has another job.
Oh my goodness, wow.
As a secret informant.
I'm not the secret informant.
You aren't?
No, and this is not the real site.
Is this not the site?
No, it's,
I can't click.
Try going to tattle.com.
Remember, it's Tattle now.
Oh.
Secret informant sounds so much like.
There you go.
So this is the actual site, I guess.
Okay.
Tattle.com.
So the Tattle.
Secret informant, though.
Yeah, secret informant's the show.
Oh!
Secret informant is the show and the company is Tattle.
And this is some of the episodes and some other things.
You know what, I've.
Where's my favorite one?
The one where you try like jujitsu or something.
Oh.
That's probably not on here.
You have to go to the YouTube channel.
Just click on a video.
Really?
Click on this.
And then go to videos.
Okay.
It's gonna be in here somewhere.
Yeah, there you go.
There we go.
This is my.
Riley Tries Aikido.
This is my favorite episode.
Look at these ads.
Skip.
Ha!
Oh!
Take that, Riley.
Yeah, so this is.
So basically this show is,
there's a secret informant from like a given culture.
This is Miho.
She was the Japanese secret informant.
So we went and did a Japanese thing.
And it basically just like,
I learned something about the culture.
Usually it's eating food.
But this episode was me doing a martial art.
That's what it is.
Is this really you trying your best?
Look, I was half laughing this entire time
because it's like a very, very serious.
It's a very, very serious discipline.
And I was like clearly like,
not like they're stretching.
I'm not very flexible.
They're like rolling and stuff.
I'm a big lanky, awkward white guy.
It was great.
So I was kinda,
actually the instructor was white.
That's not the instructor.
Anyways.
Yep.
Check it out.
If you want to watch Riley get thrown around for 10 minutes.
It's like actually awesome.
Oh man.
That's one of my favorite moments.
Yep. So yeah.
I'm here Monday, Wednesday, Friday though.
Yeah. Season two is out now, right?
It's coming out.
It's coming.
I think we're in episode four now for three.
Yeah. Anyways, this is a tech show.
This is about tech news.
Yeah. That's the theory.
But when show is actually far less about tech news
than you might think.
Yeah. So now that you're on it,
do you see how little about tech news it actually is?
Well, you know, this is my second time hosting.
I was on with James and that time,
I think we were like, we got to talk about the news.
Now that I'm on with you,
I see that I don't care about technology at all.
I care about technology.
I actually care about, I don't care about the news.
Secret informant.
Okay. So we do actually have a couple
of pretty big topics to talk about this week.
What are the big, cause we don't have time for everything.
This was posted by RC mail on the forum.
The original article is from rstecnica.com.
And this is some pretty garbo looking stuff
that we got going on right here.
So the FCC basically, according to a US court
can define markets with only a single
internet service provider as competitive,
which to me means that basically that court
doesn't have like, it's not the court
of using the dictionary court, you know?
Like it must be a different kind of court.
It's kind of like the court in Harry Potter
when they go and they're convicting people
for, you know, for bad reasons.
You know, Linus?
I actually re-watched the entire Harry Potter series
not very long ago.
So yeah.
You know what I'm talking about.
So yeah. So the, the scene is they're bringing in,
they're bringing in witches.
They're taking their wands
and then they're asking who's wand it is.
And if they say it's there, if they say it's not theirs,
then they can say, well, then you're not a witch.
And if they say it is theirs,
then they can say that they stole it.
And then they can convict them of stealing.
So they can either convict them of not being pure blood
or whatever, or of stealing or whatever.
Or they ask them who they stole it from.
You went way deeper than I meant to go by that
throwaway reference.
Anyway, Dolores Umbridge is a bad, bad person.
You might say she's a witch.
Ha ha, get it? Cause I got it.
She's a witch.
Anyway, so an appeals court has upheld an FCC ruling
that broadband markets can be competitive
even when there is only one internet provider.
So the original FCC decision was appealed
by competitive local exchange carriers
and purchasers of business broadband,
including Sprint and Windstream.
It's actually a little more nuanced than it sounds though.
So this decision eliminated price caps in any given county.
If 50% of potential customers are within a half mile
of a location served by a competitive provider.
So the FCC's position then is that nearby networks
can close the half mile gap
expanding into the areas in question.
So in theory, if that reigning single ISP
is charging too much for service,
then that neighboring competitor
should be financially incentivized to expand into the area.
Man, this is like really market sorts itself out type of-
Yeah, so the FCC cited evidence
that some competitors will build as far as a mile out
and said that most of the buildings at issue
are far closer to competitive fiber than half a mile.
The CLEC's position is that it's often not feasible
for neighboring ISPs to expand into these areas.
And then the FCC argued that the CLEC's petitioners studies
inflate costs by selecting the most expensive build,
entirely underground lines,
presuming that a separate lateral line
for each individual-
Presuming a separate lateral line
for each individual low bandwidth customer
and treating the main fiber ring
as part of the cost of reaching new customers
rather than as an existing sunk cost
near potential new customer.
So there's conflicting evidence in the judge's ruling.
While we recognize the relevant data
presents radically different pictures
of the competitiveness of the market
depending on the economic theory
applied in the weight given to the conflicting
pieces of evidence.
But the FCC may rationally choose which evidence to believe.
That is too bad.
So they have denied the petitions for review
as to the competitive market test
because the FCC's resolution of competing evidence
was not arbitrary and capricious.
So basically, even if you only have one ISP to choose from,
your market can be considered competitive
because there might be an ISP within half a mile
that could build out to provide service.
And I think that's really where the core of the issue lies
is like, if you have one ISP to choose from,
you have one ISP to choose from.
It's not competitive, it's like saying that-
You don't actually have a choice.
Well, it's like saying that,
oh, there's lots of competition here
when there could be competition in the future.
You're acting as if a future is here already.
So, I mean, this is a really frustrating issue
because on the one hand,
I am pretty free enterprise in general.
I'm a capitalist.
But the problem here is that while you can make
these sort of free market capitalist sort of arguments
for why there shouldn't be a bunch of regulation
on what the major ISPs can or cannot do,
how much they can or cannot charge their customers,
you can make those arguments.
But the problem is that that ship sailed
like a hundred years ago.
What do you mean?
At least maybe not a hundred years ago,
but that ship's, no, not the Mayflower,
but the ship of having an unregulated market
for telecommunications has already sailed.
I see.
So now- We already have regulation, so.
You have to regulate it
because building up that infrastructure
was a joint enterprise between the private
and the public sector.
So because there was a public investment in it,
there have to be public rules
and that infrastructure has to continue
to serve the public.
It's already a done deal.
Yeah.
And besides the alternative,
having just any Tom, Dick, and Harry
be allowed to start their ISP without regulations
and put down fiber lines
or run copper wiring wherever they want, it's anarchy.
I mean, it's like when you go to a developing nation
and you look at a telephone pole and you go,
my goodness, that is a fire hazard
because there's so many different lines
running every which way.
There's nothing to keep it under control.
Yeah.
When you actually don't necessarily need that much
if you've got cooperation of the companies
that manage these lines
and you've got a regulating body sitting over top,
making sure that everyone is playing fairly.
I mean, I also see the argument from the perspective
of like, hey, we should like set it up
so that these companies are incentivized
to expand their network and make things better.
But the problem is, is that like you said,
well, like you said, there's already regulation
and also internet is way more of a crucial part of-
Everyday life.
Life, yeah, in 2018.
So it's like these kinds of rules, I think,
are definitely a little backwards thinking.
And the other issue with these,
with the sort of the free market argument
is that it makes a lot of very optimistic assumptions
about the way that businesses will behave.
So the free market argument for,
well, there's an ISP nearby,
surely they could build out another half mile of fiber
in order to access these customers.
So you could say, well, surely that's the way
that a competitive company would behave.
Right.
Except that it might not be.
It might actually be much more profitable
for that company to say, hey-
We got a monopoly over here.
Hey, bud, you keep your monopoly over there.
We'll keep ours over here.
Neither of us will invest in any new fiber
and we'll each just charge more
because who are you gonna go to?
And then they do one of these.
And I mean, you saw something similar happen
with the corporate tax breaks
that recently happened in the US.
Like, look, I'm a business owner.
I would love if my corporate tax rate was 21%.
It is a lot higher than that.
That would be super cool for me.
Who else would it be cool for?
The theory was it would be super cool
for the customers and the employees
who would definitely get those savings passed along to them.
In practice, what we're really seeing
is a lot of stock buybacks.
Do you know what stock buybacks do?
They don't lower the price of the product for the customer.
So I can pretty much guarantee you
that the new iPhone 10s that Apple unveils
on September the 12th are not going
to have a 10% price break, guarantee you that one.
Take that to the bank.
They do not go to the employees.
There were a couple of token wage increases that did occur,
but by and large, that has not been the trend
that everyone gets paid 10% more.
So what a stock buyback does is it creates a shortage
of the available stocks for that company
because they are effectively buying their own stocks
and stocks, the pricing of a stock
is entirely controlled by supply and demand.
So if a company is running out
and buying back its own stocks,
what it is effectively doing is increasing the value
of the stocks that are already held by shareholders.
So the shareholders are making money,
bearing in mind, of course,
that any money you own in stocks is paper money.
It's theoretical money until you actually sell it
for a currency, but then again,
currencies can fluctuate far more these days
than a lot of people would be comfortable with.
So you could, again, make the argument
that paper money is also just paper money.
And, you know, maybe we should all just go back to gold.
I mean, now all of a sudden we're going down a rabbit hole.
But the point is many of the stockholders,
the shareholders for these large publicly traded companies
are the executives that work for them.
So who ended up getting paid when a company like,
and I actually, you know what,
I'm not gonna use any specifics
because I can't remember off the top of my head
any that have participated in a great deal
of buying back of stock.
But the people getting paid are the people who own shares.
And some of those people are members of the general public,
but this was pitched as some kind of a boon
for the everyman.
And as a business owner, I can tell you,
anyone out there who's trying to make the argument
that business owners were gonna take
an extra double digit percentage of effective profits
and just go up in their zeppelin
and throw it out of the,
rain it down on the people on the downtrodden is an idiot.
That's not how capitalism works.
That's not what I would do.
And that's not what anyone else would do.
Cause that's...
What I'm kind of confused about is what is it in it
for the FCC?
It's the FCC, right?
Yeah, what's in it for them by making this ruling?
Because obviously it's good for the ISPs.
But what is the government's interest in doing this?
This is where the rabbit hole quite frankly
goes a lot deeper than I'm familiar with
because it's like, I don't know the intricacies
of the way that all of these agencies
interact with each other.
And there's a lot of people that I kind of look,
I look at what they're doing and I go,
what's motivating you to say the things
you're saying right now,
or do the things you're doing right now?
Like, are there pictures of you like with goats?
Like, I mean, very compromising,
very compromising photographs.
Goats?
Yeah.
Like naked, you know, like shaved goats
and like whipped cream all over the place.
Like I just...
Look man, if somebody wants to hang out
with whipped cream and goats, that's fine.
You know, as long as everyone, everything's consensual.
You know what I mean?
I just, I look at the things that these people say
and the things they do and I go...
Do you love hanging out with goats?
You know, you've got an education from Harvard
or Princeton or whatever,
presumably basic fundamental,
like using your noggin a little bit
and was part of the curriculum there.
So clearly you don't actually believe what you're saying.
So what are we doing here?
You know, like how are we doing this?
People are flawed, Linus.
Anyway.
We should probably move on.
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Yeah, Yellow Havoc says my first live wan show.
Thank you guys for all the hours I've spent watching.
No, no, thank you for the hours you've spent watching
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you're thanking us for that.
No, no, no, no.
Wait, okay.
Thank you, Yellow Havoc.
Okay, why don't we actually do
at least one more tech topic here?
Cause I really wanted to talk about this rumor.
So this was posted by Ethan Immortal on the forum
and it's originally from Hard OCP.
Is it Juicy Rumors?
Juicy Rumors, no.
And the article basically says that Nvidia
is controlling the ability of add-in board partners.
So that's your Asus's, gigabytes,
EVGA's of the world, MSI.
They're controlling add-in board partners abilities
to seed RTX cards to the press for independent evaluation
through driver distribution.
I thought you told me you didn't want to talk about this.
No, we can talk about this.
Okay.
I didn't think it was great for TechLinked
because I think it's a little bit more nuanced
than we have time for in about 35 seconds.
Okay, fine. Yeah, whatever.
So a comparison is being made here
to the GeForce partner program
where Nvidia was exerting control over their AIBs
and OEM brands with the GeForce partner program.
So now it's exerting control over who the AIB
can have review their own custom cards.
So Nvidia has asked that the AIBs tell Nvidia
who will be reviewing their custom RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti cards
and they have asked for reviewers' email and phone numbers.
So like they want to know who specifically
from that publication will be reviewing it?
Yes.
Interesting.
So with the list of reviewers have been submitted to Nvidia
and then Nvidia has put together
its own list of approved reviewers
and sent their approved list back
to let them know who they're allowed to sample cards to.
So they're not allowing the AIBs to distribute drivers
with the review cards.
For a reviewer to have access,
they must sign Nvidia's multi-year NDA,
log into a portal to obtain the driver
and download from there onto a machine
with the new RTX card present.
Oh, so this is like a whole nother level of sketchiness
because it's not just Nvidia telling reviewers
who can review their cards.
It's Nvidia telling the card makers
who can review the card makers' cards.
Ahead of launch.
Right.
So honestly, nothing here really raises alarm bells for me.
We signed Nvidia's NDA.
We talked about this on the WAN Show before.
There's nothing particularly odious in there.
Like it's a pretty bog standard NDA,
the same kind that we would have to sign
with pretty much anyone.
The same kind that doesn't prevent us
once the card is out there in the public
from saying anything we want about it.
Like it has stuff in there
about not reverse engineering the product
and like all the same kind of thing.
If you were to get a sample from Apple, Intel, AMD,
there would be a very similar NDA to sign
and their driver download portal,
they've been using that for at least a couple of years now.
So that's not new.
And you already had to provide Nvidia
with an email address and a login
so that they could authorize you for the portal.
We've never had trouble getting that going.
So like at first glance, this seems like,
whoa, this is legally iffy or whatever,
not even legally iffy, but just kind of sketchy.
But in practice,
In practice, it's normal.
The only way Nvidia can enforce this
is for pre-launch reviews.
And it is very typical in order to avoid leaks.
So this is, but this is only for before launch.
Yes.
Once the card launches,
anybody can grab it and do a review.
Of course.
Yeah, you could go to the store,
buy an RTX, whatever the crap and review it.
Do you want me to do that?
No, I don't.
Because we're gonna have Anthony do it
because he's far more qualified.
Okay.
So this is one where I, on the one hand,
I've given Nvidia flack many times, many times,
at least a dozen times
about what I call their cloak and dagger BS
around their launches.
And not talking about the comics.
Where, no, no, where, where basically, you know,
they'll do stuff like they'll invite us to an event,
but we can't tell you, you know,
what's gonna be there or, you know,
whether you should bring a camera operator or,
and I'm kind of like, look, it's a graphics card.
Okay.
What, what day are you giving us the actual information?
Do I need a camera operator there?
Is there gonna be an internet connection?
Can I live stream?
Is there an embargo lift?
Does it lift immediately when you guys announce it
or does it lift the next day?
I need to know this information so I can do my job.
But Linus, it might not just be a graphics card.
It might be a fully new, you know, experience.
Yeah, sure, whatever.
Could be a revolutionary ray tracing.
My frustration with them for the most part
is that I wanna be able to do my job
with the flip side being,
and I've had the same conversations with AMD, Intel,
pretty much you name it.
And so my frustrations are probably like,
I think they're fair,
but then I also understand the other side
where they can't run around or they can't have people
who are not getting briefed on the product correctly,
who might be running pre-release hardware
and or pre-release drivers
who don't necessarily understand the full story
because it is actually important to get a briefing
on something that's not out yet.
There might be stuff that's not working yet,
but the fix is coming.
Hey guys, don't test that till the day before.
We're gonna have something for you,
but it's not quite there yet.
I think that's also why you don't really wanna
pay too much attention to all of these like leaks benchmarks
that come out and stuff,
because it's like they're probably
running on optimized software.
And the other issue is that part of this whole control
over the launch thing that these companies do
is about creating a fair and level playing field.
So if Nvidia were to allow someone who is not authorized
to review the RTX 2080 or the 2080 Ti,
if there were to be some way for that person
to get a card and a driver ahead of the launch,
that website or that YouTube channel,
that publication could go live with a full review
that may or may not be based on actual finished software.
So might paint the product in an unnecessarily
either positive or negative.
I mean, there have been situations
where performance was greater
and then something had to be fixed
that ended up negatively affecting performance.
So people might not be getting an accurate representation
of the performance and it puts everyone else
who's playing by the rules and releasing their reviews
once the NDA lifts at a disadvantage
because everyone will already at least think they know
how the product performs.
So you're basically saying put yourself in Nvidia shoes
and maybe consider for a moment that-
Yeah, I wouldn't say that,
but I wouldn't mind being in Nvidia shoes.
How many billions of dollars revenue
did they do last year?
Okay, well, but consider for a second.
I mean, like they are a big company.
There's lots of big companies
that act in their own self-interests,
but like consider for a second that there is a decent,
you know, reason for them doing this kind of thing.
I like to know what is it that I ignored during my rant?
Ignore, Linus ignored the whole chat with his rant.
Oh yeah, sorry.
That burn on that.
Somebody said, let Riley make a review video.
Just kidding.
You don't want me doing that.
Actually, I think Riley is gonna be working
on an LTT video in the near future.
I'm working on something.
We're not gonna tell you guys exactly what's going on.
Oh no, I should have said that.
So anyway, final conclusion.
Nvidia controls AIB launch.
Totally get it.
I wish that review embargoes weren't a thing at all.
To be perfectly honest with you.
I wish that they just said, okay, here it is.
Here's the product, here's the driver, go.
That would be ideal.
But I also understand why companies feel
like they have to do this crap.
However frustrating that might be for me
as a member of the media.
GeForce partner program was-
Terrible.
Basically terrible.
This is not bad.
This is, it's far less terrible.
It's very annoying.
But potentially necessary.
Well, no, I don't think any of it's necessary.
I think it is necessary for Nvidia
to protect its own interests.
Right.
Okay, well, from that perspective.
Necessary.
Not necessary like for things like this
to exist in the universe all the time.
This is not especially helpful
for consumers getting an accurate understanding
of the performance of the product.
Well, but that's because the drivers aren't there yet.
Unless they are.
See, in this case, I don't have an RTX card.
I don't have RTX drivers.
No, I don't.
I don't know how done or not done any of this is.
I don't know who we're getting RTX cards from.
I don't know when they're coming.
No, for real, I'm serious.
So I'm just saying like all of this stuff
is very frustrating, very annoying.
And we wish it wasn't a thing,
but for whatever reason, companies do this stuff.
And Nvidia's is not that much worse,
if any worse than what other companies do.
It just kind of is what it is.
So you're a Nvidia Stan.
Nvidia Stan?
Is that a country?
Is it globally illuminated?
Stan is like a...
You know what a Stan is?
Like if you're a Stan of...
A country.
No, no, no.
Like, oh, you Stan Nvidia.
Stan?
Yeah.
So I go on the internet.
It's an internet term.
Oh, okay.
Like a fan.
Sure, no.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
Okay.
So you hate Nvidia.
No, what?
No, nothing in life is that black and white.
Oh, okay.
I mean, we've been accused of bias every way,
which is great.
My favorite, this is my favorite thing to read.
I'm going through the comments on a video
and I got one comment.
Linus clearly was Intel biased in this video.
Yeah.
And literally the next comment is,
wow, his AMD bias is on display for the entire world.
And I'm gonna go on.
You're biased again.
You're biased for both.
I think we're riding it just right at that point.
As long as, yeah, as long as like people...
People are always gonna agree you're biased,
but if they can agree that you're biased for everybody.
Then I think we're doing a pretty good job.
Nice.
We're not doing a good job.
This was originally posted by Rascal over on the forum.
And I...
I actually, I wanna say I deserve credit
for getting this article huge.
Cause I tweeted this like right when it came out,
I saw it pop up and I tweeted it on the TechLink account.
And then like an hour later,
Gamers Nexus put a thing up.
So I was like, okay.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Right on my coattails,
bringing it to the attention of the public.
I'm sure that given all of the understanding
that you have of how video scripting
and editing and encoding and uploading works
that they surely did see your tweet
and turn out that video in one hour.
What can I say?
For sure.
For sure Gamers Nexus did that.
I can't believe this article is still up.
Yeah.
You'd think they'd take it down.
You'd think this page, this page,
tomshardware.com slash news slash
Nvidia RTX GPU is worth the money.
Is that a comma?
Comma 37689.html.
You would think this page would redirect
to a gigantic we're sorry at this point.
So it is clearly labeled opinion piece.
Yeah, but honestly I read through it
and I thought it was like a parody
because everyone says when new graphics cards
and stuff are announced,
hey, okay, but wait for the reviews.
You know, it's like, hold on.
You don't want to be wasting your money on stuff.
Or when a new car is announced.
Yeah, anything.
Or when a new game is announced.
Yeah, well, especially games,
but like don't pre-order.
Anything.
And then, and that's what everyone's saying.
And then Tom's Hardware is like,
Just buy it.
I got a hot take.
So their defense is paper that,
so this was written by their editor in chief too.
Like that's just brutal.
You know, I will say like Tom's Hardware seems to,
like most of the time they have pretty good,
I don't know.
I find that I don't, I don't go there like a ton,
but like when I do go there,
it seems to be like a decent site
that I was like good opinions.
It's decent for getting like a spec sheet.
Right.
Okay, so this is good.
They actually have added a note here.
As with all of our op-eds,
the opinions expressed here belong to the writer alone
and not Tom's Hardware as a team.
This article is a counterpoint
to Derek for us equally worthy.
See, that kind of makes sense.
Why you?
Well, cause it's like, oh, equally worthy?
Not equal.
It's not equally worthy.
This is worthless.
We encourage readers to check out both articles,
form their own opinions and share feedback
in the comment section below.
Oh yeah, fair enough.
But it's fair of them to attempt some sort of like
point counterpoint type thing.
Firing line, if you will.
Left versus right, you know?
No.
Let's like, let's have a dialogue.
This is a bad, this is one of those, okay.
So just like, just like the conversation
we were having earlier,
where I see arguments being made out in the wild
that I just go, you know, are we,
are we really talking here?
Yeah.
I mean, are your ear holes kind of,
are they working with my mouth hole?
Is there sound being transmitted?
This is, you know, are they, is it making it there?
Or what's going on here?
Like, this is the kind of argument that you, you can't,
you can't make.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's dumb.
It's bad.
Like it's got, it's actually got a subheading
called the real cost of buying outdated tech.
Like the cost?
There's not a cost of buying outdated tech.
My, my, my, or did you scroll past that?
That's my favorite line right there.
When your whole life flashes before your eyes,
how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?
Like, what's the point?
What's the point of living without ray tracing?
Are you quitting?
Edzal is done.
What's that?
Are you saying bye?
Okay, bye.
I'll see you.
I'll see you at the airport, right?
Airport?
Okay.
Are you on the same flight as me?
Do people know where we're going?
I don't know.
Oh yeah.
So, so this is fun.
Anyway, this article is laughable
and it is undefensible, undefensible, indefendable, whatever.
It may, it cannot be, it cannot be defended.
You should never buy anything without,
without independent evaluation or like trying it first.
Like that's why you test drive a car.
That's why you don't just pre-order a Roadster 2
or 3 or whatever it is.
PC Gamer, actually it's not linked in the description,
but did you see that article?
No, I didn't.
PC Gamer actually put up, he was like,
he referenced Gamers Nexus and he referenced Tom's hardware
and he's like, okay, but hold on a second.
What about this?
What if there's a return policy?
And you're like, I want, I know I'm going to get this card.
I know I'm going to get it.
Then go for it.
So what if there's a 30 day return policy
and you have like a thousand bucks to drop
and you don't care?
So the problem with the IT industry,
and this was true at our old employer as well,
is that a lot of the time there's like a restocking fee.
Like returning electronics like graphics cards
is not necessarily as simple as a pair of pants
at the Gap or whatever.
So as long as you believe that you can get rid of it
and you have the disposable money sitting around, fine.
But that wasn't the argument being made here.
Yeah, the problem was that this argument for doing that
was horrible.
It said just buy it, not just try it.
Like when I'm 99 years old and I'm lying on my death bed
and I'm thinking back and I'm saying like,
oh my gosh, I didn't have ray tracing for six months.
Ray Tracing.
What was the plan?
Ray Tracing, deep learning, super sampling, I needed it.
That's the other big feature, right?
Are the ray tracing and DLSS.
Yeah.
There's a bunch of other topics this week.
Bet you didn't know that.
Lego built a life-size drivable Bugatti
from over a million Technic pieces.
That's pretty cool.
You should probably go check that out.
Bibbity bloppity, something along.
Bibbly blobbly blue.
There you go.
Yep.
I mean, it doesn't go fast of course.
Cause it's made of Technic, but it looks really cool.
So that's pretty sick.
It's like nice job guys.
Yep.
And now what?
There's pictures leaked of the iPhone XS.
Yeah, we talked about that on TechLink today.
10S, XS of 10S, I think it's going to be 10S.
So which is that I would say that's kind of annoying to me
because OS 10, like it's you're right at OS X
but at least there's no other numbers in there.
Well, there's no other numbers in this one.
Wait, S is not a number, but that's fine.
Oh, you're right.
And I guess that that leads us to the end of the show.
So on the subject of getting tax breaks
and not spending it on your employees,
Linus Media Group actually did get a big tax break
and is actually spending it on all of its employees.
So over the next week or so,
you're probably going to notice some differences
in our content lineup.
Linus Tech Tips videos will continue to be published
throughout all of next week, as will Tech Quickie videos,
but TechLinked and the WAN show
because they are same day productions
are not going to be going up next week because-
Well, I mean, how do you do it?
Yeah, the entire team is taking a vacation
and all expenses paid vacation to,
should I say where we're going?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't say it on-
A bunch of weird people going to show up.
You know what?
Let's say where we went after we get back.
Yeah, how about that?
I might've already said where we were going.
I don't know.
We are heading into the ether.
Anyway, we are going to do a corporate retreat
because we are spending a bunch of,
we're going to blow a bunch of money
that we got as a big tax rebate
for being a media production company in BC
on our staff, doing something fun and team building.
And it's going to be great.
I'm actually super stoked.
Yeah, so we're going to have some fun.
And so there will be no WAN show next week.
So we will see you in two weeks.
Two weeks.
Oh yeah.
Wait, right.
Yeah, two weeks.
Buh-bye!
Okay.