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We're live welcome to the wan show. Sorry guys Luke couldn't join us yet. Don't worry
He'll be here in a little bit about for now
Slenderman will be taking his place while I introduce the topics for the day and all that good stuff because Luke is
Actually finishing up. What will be
Tomorrow's video right now. We're gonna be covering the ASUS Gladius ROG mouse
It was supposed to be an Assassin's Creed unity performance guide with a bunch of graphics cards and benchmarking all that stuff
But I'll let him cover when he gets back. Huh? Why that didn't happen
Yeah, it was it was pretty bad
So we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today aside from that and AMD has released the mantle
public
TK so they are pretty much inviting everyone with some with some need to have a super like
Bear to the metal graphics API whether it's game developers or say for example other hardware manufacturers
They're inviting everyone to the party
AT&T is acting like a small child about the ongoing net neutrality debate in the US and
Honestly, this is just unreal
So we'll give you more details on that and the Nvidia shield tablet is gonna be one of the first devices not made by
Google to feature the new Android 5.0 lollipop OS
Also, I guess you know grid game streaming let out a beta so we'll talk about that as well
But for now, I got to roll the intro to buy myself some time to go ahead and get our announcement video up
That we're live. So that's a thing. Oh
Oh
There's no music in this one, I swear
One of these days I'm gonna figure out which one has the music and this is not gonna happen anymore
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Boom all right that videos up, so let's jump right into our first topic
AMD releases public mantle SDK well
This this year, so let's go ahead and first give credit to our op so teraflop posted this on the lines tech tips forum
And the original article is from and I know these guys aren't the most
popular source of news on the Linus Tech Tips forum by
WCCF tech posted that it is coming this year and AMD has basically come out and said look
Nvidia and Intel we want you guys to use it you can use it for
Free now Intel has expressed some interest in mantle apparently
Nvidia on the other hand has not been that warm and has not been that
Friendly to the whole idea, but I mean this was something that we've talked about in the past as well
It might not necessarily be about mantle being the API for you know every future game
although they do have a
surprising number of games on the list of
Already released to be released soon and currently in development that are supporting this technology
But it might not end up being mantle API that you know the game runs on ultimately five years from now
But what's great about them opening up the kimono a little bit like this is
Kronos and Microsoft so the OpenGL and DirectX guys have already said that they are looking at mantle and
Possibly implementing various parts of it in their own API, so I mean OpenGL has the advantage of its ubiquity
I mean you can run OpenGL games on a tablet or you can run them on a PC
So that's really cool DirectX of course has that amazing backwards compatibility as well as that
enormous industry-wide support on the PC side of things and
So if either of those get anything positive out of AMD's public mantle SDK
Then that's that's absolutely fantastic so
That's I mean, it's it's incredible how much momentum
It's gained and yet how it might not end up being the winner
But there's no question that mantle has pushed the industry forward, and we should definitely be thankful for that
All right, I just you know let's do a straw poll here. I want to hear from you guys
Okay straw poll
will
Nvidia
Provide any kind of mantle support
Yes
No, and
Let's go with apple fritter for our third option because I know how much you guys love
You know just not contributing to the poll at all all right. Let's go ahead and spam the chat with this bad boy
boom boom boom I
I
Missed that first time yeah, no matter where you click in that apparently the camera looks really bad today
I don't know what you're talking about
All right there we go
All that spam
Somehow we've already got that who's this interest yet one man pizza and twitch chat already says it's not even a question
They will never I I don't necessarily think that's true
I mean, it's not like Nvidia is in a position where if some game comes out that that ends up actually running
You know 20 30 percent better on mantle compared to
DirectX 12 which looks like it's gonna offer many of the same benefits
so this kind of thing seems very unlikely, but if there was a game like a really key game or
Lots of games like a dozen games that run 20 30 percent faster on mantle
You really think Nvidia's not gonna leverage that if they can I?
I I don't think that's true at all, but let's go ahead and see what you guys think
Let's fire up these results here while I move on to the next topic
Wow we've got
51% of you say no a 30% of you saying apple fritter and a
Tiny 19% of you saying yes, so it looks like you guys are pretty much on the same page about both apple fritters and
The chances that in video will provide any kind of support in their drivers for mantle
Alright
Our next topic actually you know what this is a Ubisoft thing
So I think I'm really just gonna have to wait until Luke gets here for this
So first up is this was posted by tech dreamer on the forum
Let's go and the original article here is from Engadget
But Tom Wheeler the FCC chairman says that he may ignore
ignore
Obama on the topic of net neutrality
Now he made it very clear that even though he was appointed by Obama the FCC is a separate entity
Just because the White House says something like you know
Oh
We want to classify the internet in the same way that we now classify telephone lines so there can be there can be no
No messing about with the way that traffic gets allocated and and the way that bandwidth gets allocated so that you know large
Corporations would have an advantage if they're able to afford to pay for internet fast lanes
So Obama's basically said look you know net neutrality is a really good thing
but the FCC chairman has come out and said that he thinks that the solution while you know I
I I hopefully hopefully you know the the solution that the internet service providers are
Offering up which is that they should basically be able to do whatever they want as far as I can tell
He's saying he prefers a or he prefers a more nuanced solution
So you guys can interpret that however you want
But it sounds like what we're likely to end up with isn't gonna be
Straight net neutrality and isn't gonna be straight the ISPs are allowed to do whatever they want
but some critics and advocates are
expressing their concern that a compromise between these two might just end up with a muddy set of rules that doesn't actually
Have a whole lot of meaning in the real world. So guys
There are a thousand places that you can voice your opinion on the subject of net neutrality
but the only thing I really have to say about it at this point is
Is go voice it it's extremely important without net neutrality
We could see situations where let's say a company like oh, I don't know hypothetically
Netflix were to try to start a let's say hypothetically streaming service where they deliver video programming to people's homes and
Let's say you know an incumbent. Let's say Comcast whose business happens to be and these are just examples
These are hypothetical companies any semblance they bear to existing companies is purely coincidental
So let's say for example this company hypothetically named Comcast goes
Oh, well, you know, we're in the business of providing internet connections to people's homes
But we're also in the business of providing video content to people's homes
And if these guys are gonna use our lines for that
Well, they should be paying us a lot more than necessarily the you know
Exact amount we would normally charge for the amount of bandwidth that they're using and if we don't maintain net neutrality
we will be stuck in a situation where they would be free to do that and
We could rely on the courts to enforce any kinds of you know anti-competitive laws or whatever else
But we talked about this last week where oh shoot and I forget how long it took. I think it was back in
2000 was the issue with Intel misrepresenting the performance of their Pentium 4 processors against AMD's
Competitor and so 14 years later last week
This was news people who bought that misrepresented processor got $15
I mean, that's how long this takes and that's how ineffective it is
So I wouldn't I wouldn't rely on that
we just need to make sure that we keep the the freedoms that we already enjoy in the first place if you want to have
Any chance of of not living in a world where our ISPs are in control because we know how awesome they are
speaking about how awesome our ISPs are
AT&T has publicly. Okay. This was posted by Dietrich W on the forum. The original article here is from the verge
I'll just pull this up here, but AT&T has oh, that's weird
Oops, okay. Hold on a second. Let's just change my screen share around here Wow
I just decided that it was going to go into extend mode rather than duplicate
Okay, what
Sometimes I just don't even you know
Like I just don't even get it
So let's just show desktop only on one. Let's try that first
Okay
Keep changes. Sorry guys, then let's try
Okay, and then that display is completely not detected anymore which might explain some of why it's
being a little bit borked anyway, the original articles from the verge here and
AT&T is basically said well
You know look we're not going to invest in high-speed fiber connections
And there were there in talks with something along the lines of a hundred cities about getting high-speed fiber rolled out and this looked
Very reactionary to Google fiber starting to roll out in selected cities. And so they're saying okay
Look, we're not going to invest in any of that stuff until we know the lay of the land with the new rules
So basically how much money they're going to be able to squeeze out of every, you know, foot of
Fiber that they lay down in these cities and this is extremely disappointing to me
Not only because they already got the money to build a better infrastructure
I mean this was this is this is well documented at this point. They got the money
They did nothing with it. So aside from that they've already been paid
This is disappointing because it's not like they're not doing just mine
Just mine today
The plan to roll out this high-speed fiber networking is in place on the basis of they're already doing
Just fine charging people as much as they're charging them for internet connections that at some point
They had to build the infrastructure for and at some point that investment paid off from a business standpoint
investing in something that you can get someone to pay you 50 to
75 dollars a month or whatever else for in densely populated areas is a winning proposition
And the only reason that they can afford to just sit on ass until presumably sometime in early to mid
2015 when these rulings get finalized
I mean if it even happens then the only reason they're able to do that is because it is so difficult for competitors to come in and
Force them to step up their game
So I I don't know how all this plays out. I mean, it's it's easy for me to say as a Canadian
Well, this is all kind of u.s. Nonsense, so it will never affect me here
But the problem is that so much of what happens in the u.s. Does tend to become a precedent
That's been set for it now and it does tend to trickle down to other places not everywhere
But in the case of Canada that tends to happen a whole heck of a lot and our ISPs are no less
Evil than the American ISPs. So they're gonna look at what works down there and they're gonna push real hard to have it
You know work up here and they're gonna build case studies and they're gonna lobby our politicians and go
Oh, well, look how successful this was it
you know did this for the economy because we're able to charge this much more to to whatever else so
What a childish thing to do we're just gonna stop building any more better infrastructure until you know
We get they haven't they haven't said that it has to be a favorable ruling
They've just said that they are gonna reevaluate their plans once there's a ruling
But I think we all kind of know how this is how this is gonna play out
Now people asking where's Luke Luke is recording a video right now
So as soon as he's done, he's gonna jump up here and join me and then boot slender man out of his spot
All right. So this is this is a really
Unfortunate little piece of news. This was posted by Victoria's Secret on the forum and it is
Unusual for large companies like Nvidia to come and out and speak speak publicly to post on their blog
about you know, something like an ongoing lawsuit, but this is this is really important not because of
really I
I
Straight up don't understand where that's coming from
That is oh
I know what it is. That's that's a screen grab of the last thing that I was looking at. It's not updating anymore. I
See, okay. Well, you guys will just have to take my word for it. It's on Nvidia's blog and
Basically, I'm gonna kind of run through the whole thing here because it's super it's super crappy and Samsung is behaving like a spoiled child
About this so they basically said look we filed patent lawsuits two months ago against Samsung and Qualcomm alleging that they've used our patented
GPU technology without proper compensation to us when we filed those suits. We fully expected to be sued in response
It's a predictable tactic
So we weren't surprised when earlier this week Samsung filed a lawsuit against us adding in for good measure velocity micro
I don't know if you guys are familiar with velocity micro if you don't follow the boutique system builder space
You know the Falcon Northwest's and you know Puget Systems guys of the world
you might never have heard of velocity micro, but they're a
pretty small
Company, okay. They're not like a gigantic mega corporation like a like a Dell where there could be some kind of you know
collusion between
Dell and Nvidia to
Allegedly break some Samsung patent or something
They're just they're just a system integrator very similar to this could have just as easily happened to any other
Shop that builds custom gaming rigs and sells them on their website. So
They included velocity micro a small customer based in, Virginia
so their action focuses on eight patents and videos alleged to have violated six and
Included in the in the filing is a false advertising claim against Nvidia
That the statement about the shield tablet with the k-tiger k1 processor is the world's fastest mobile processor
They're saying it's false and misleading. So Nvidia goes and like straight outputs. Here's our benchmarks against the Exynos 54 33
That's in the note for yeah, you're not faster. Yes, Nvidia did include a lot of gaming focused benchmarks
So are they spinning things a little bit?
Yes
But they also included some non gaming focused benchmarks and it looks like if you were to just sort of you know
Fire a shotgun and if you hit sort of you know
the the dozen or 15 or so benchmarks that they ran you would hit more than Nvidia wins than that Samsung wins and
Pretty much. Here we go. It's unfortunate that Samsung sued velocity. This isn't velocities fight. This is this is just
Extremely, this is just extremely
Crappy a velocity and this isn't something that that Nvidia's put in their article
But it is something that I've seen in some of the articles about
Nvidia's blog post but you know
We got to consider when we shop a lot of different things that often we don't we tend to look at a spec sheet
We tend to look at a benchmark score and we tend to look at a price and then we go ahead and we make a purchasing
decision but I mean
I
Shouldn't say no one
I think a lot of us are frustrated at times with the way that Apple behaves with respect to its patents, but is Samsung
Really being any less vindictive and it's one thing if they're gonna go after another big boy
You know if they're gonna go after an Apple or an Nvidia
But it's a whole other one if they bring in a little company like velocity
They didn't do anything other than put Nvidia graphics cards in their systems just because and this is Nvidia's theory
This is allegedly just because Virginia tends to process
These filings extremely quickly and velocity had the bad luck to be located in Virginia. So
Just something to something to consider
Oh there there is an open letter to the public from Randy Copeland the CEO of velocity micro where he basically says look
We know nothing about the previous issues between Samsung and video and we don't care, you know
his response really had a very he had a very
It had a very bitter tone to it and he basically said we'll have to use company resources to defend ourselves from Samsung and obviously
Mismatched opponent and he says if this is how Samsung operates
We want no part of it and we hope others agree and will consider this during the upcoming holiday shopping season
Can't say I disagree
Mr. Copeland who I've actually never had the pleasure of meeting but seems like a nice enough guy and doesn't deserve this kind of nonsense
All right
I've got another Ubisoft thing here that I'm gonna skip and wait for wait for Luke to come in so he can weigh on
but I have the most hilarious thing that I probably saw this entire week to show you guys here and
I'm gonna I'm gonna fire it up on on this computer so that I can screen share with you guys so you can see this
but this is
freaking
unreal
Gigabyte releases a triple or a show shows off. I don't think you can buy it yet
I'd be surprised if you can ever buy it to be perfectly honest
I'll buy your face
All right. So the original article here is from tech powerup. Let's go ahead and do a quick screen share
I don't know what's broken about my my stupid thing here, but I can't screen share again this week
All right screen read Jane. Boom. Okay?
Gigabyte announces GTX 980 water force try SLI
Alright, so this is three
GTX 980s each with their own individual
120 millimeter radiator and 120 millimeter cooling fan it features this
massive like coolants
exos style
External radiator system thing and then presumably because gigabyte wanted to use a prepackaged solution
Instead of going with a custom pump
configuration and then allowing one pump or even dual pumps to power the whole thing each of these is its own
Separate all-in-one with its own separate pump and then its own separate set of inlet and outlet lines
Into the computer so you actually have to run all six of these tubes
Into your computer with this box sitting next to it. How are you gonna be able to do that though?
Because I could see like are they really really small tubing they look like quarter-inch to me
So they're not hyper small like you're probably ripping a PCI. Yeah slot. Yeah
That's gross the back of your case just like you're not gonna be able to get through the included grommets and because it's pre-filled
Okay, because it's pre-filled you can't even like go through a grommet unless you could thread your graphics card through your water cooling grommet
Oh my god, so they wouldn't be able to go through one of the expansion card slots either then. Oh, yeah
Wait, how is this even supposed to work? I wonder if we do have to go through the maybe they have quick connects
Okay, maybe I'm wrong about this. Don't quote me on that the front you have to go through the front
This is worse than I could have
Possibly imagine they yeah, they can yeah. Yeah, they're looking at this right now. Okay, come on
Okay, do they give you a custom like bathing I guess
Just Wow mind you mind you here this is a value add it comes with this graphics card reinforcement cool
bracket doohickey
Bracket doohickey and and so yeah, that's a coolest lie bridge
Yeah
I'm not gonna buy no this no to get that
That's a high bridge mind you but but I wouldn't buy that to buy the like thing. That looks like a bicycle tire pump either
So yeah, welcome to the show. Thank you
So I was saving the Ubisoft topics. Oh, yeah, so I should probably finish up
I should probably finish up that graphics card thing for you guys
Each of the cards is gonna be clocked at 1228 megahertz core 1329 boost
Oh, of course, you'll be able to overclock them further and with 7 gigahertz on the memory
The front panel can control fan speeds and coolant pressure of each of the three loops
For whatever reason you wanted to do that and I think that's pretty much it
It's fully assembled in the factory, but I think that was implied when I said these were these were pre-built
Yeah, okay
So let's start with let's start with this article on PC per comm and I apologize for this
Just being sort of a little bit kludgy this week. I will figure out what's wrong with the capture card
So here's the original article from PC per comm it was posted by obscure mammal on the forum where?
Ryan had an article or had an opportunity to talk to the Ubisoft development team about hey
I don't know what the heck is what the heck is going on over there
So basically the development team came back and said that Assassin's Creed unity is one of the most
Detailed games on the market. It has a giant. Hold on. Hold on. Just calm down Luke
It has a giant open-world city with tens of thousands of objects visible on screen
Paris is incredibly detailed. For example, Notre Dame is
Millions of triangles itself it features global illumination local reflections realistic high dynamic range lighting
They talked about scaling down the quality to allow for lower system requirements
But decided against it because they were targeting existing PC hardware not future cards
But high-end existing PC hardware and this is a quote our position always came back to us
Ensuring that Assassin's Creed unity is a next-gen only game with breakthrough graphics with this vision
We did not degrade the visual quality of the game. They are planning to continue working on optima
Oh, I haven't been screen sharing with you guys. I'm sorry
There's the article on PC per so yeah
basically, it's it's just Ryan asking questions and then a
a big long thing. Oh, there's some updates since the last time I I had
Okay, so
Apparently, okay. Okay. Okay, so there's updates we can actually chat about these updates very briefly
But the the last part of what we originally sort of sort of knew about this was that they're gonna continue working on
Optimizations and you'll hear more details shortly
So here's an update a couple of other media outlets have posted anonymous
Information that indicates that the draw call count for Assassin's Creed unity is at fault for the poor poor performance of the game on
PC's according to this quote-unquote
anonymous source while the consoles have low level API access to hardware to accept and process several times the number of drop calls that
DirectX 11 can
DirectX 11 is limited to seven to ten thousand peak draw calls while
The game is apparently pushing in excess of
Fifty thousand draw calls per frame and then if this turns out to be true
It would be a confirm confirmation that UBC didn't take the time to implement a direct elects DirectX 11 port correctly
And if it's not true or that's only partially to blame then we're left with more meaningless finger pointing because people
Really want to point fingers. I've seen fingers pointed at Nvidia game works. Yeah, I've seen fingers pointed at Ubisoft
I actually don't think I've seen anyone blame Microsoft for this one
Although you could make the argument that if we're draw call bound. Yeah
The overhead associated with DirectX 11 could be partially to blame given that it's no secret that
graphics card makers like AMD have been pushing for a lower level API to the point where they wouldn't just
Went and created their own. Yeah, an awfully long time now
Um
But it makes a ton of sense
Especially because even though we weren't able to do our own performance testing of Assassin's Creed unity and I'll let you go on that
Very soon, especially weren't able to do our own today and yesterday, which is what we wanted to do
It makes sense given that we've looked at other people's performance analysis and it just doesn't make any sense
Yeah, we don't seem to be limited by the traditional things like memory bandwidth or you know
fill rates or
at the same time though pretty much everyone that I've seen actually reporting numbers has had like
Fairly blatant disclaimers being like it's pretty spiky
Because like even even the amount of times that I was able to get it live
Like I could be just staring at one exact wall and like I lined up framings with like, okay
There's a groove along the wall here. I put my screen exactly on that groove stand on this
I find on exactly the spot like I had the framing perfect and I'd look at it and get 63 FPS
And I'd look away and come back and now I'm at 52
and I'm like
Wow, well, I'm staring at the same wall like it should be the exact same performance and it's just not like why not
What is wrong with you? So are we actually here?
So why don't you give the update on your experience with Assassin's Creed unity so far? Okay, so they want to hear from you. I
It's awesome. Oh
That's my that's on my shirt, I'll hold really still yeah, there you go
So it started off I showed up to work quite early today
So I was like I need to get this testing done before the WAN show trying to be all good Samaritan and get you guys a video
Yeah
Didn't get a successful boot for what two and a half. Yeah. No, you were talking to me at like quarter to nine
And first message I sent to you was I think you hadn't had it booted yet. Yeah
Yeah, I think the first message I sent to you was before seven because I got to work pretty early
I don't think I replied to that. No, no, not till later. I was sleeping
I thought so I just wanted to send that message before I forgot about it
anyways had tons of issues like I
Could load in and then take like two steps and I'd lose connectivity to you play
So the whole game would just crash it wouldn't go like oh you're offline now. You can't open those stupid freaking chests
No
You actually can't play it all and it's not like it just closes the game the whole thing just like gray screens and then does
that like
Microsoft is trying to figure out what just happened to this program. We don't really know
Do you want to end it like of course, it's trash
Anyways, so then eventually I'm like I messaged Linus and I was like, should I just go offline mode?
Or should I go online mode? Like there's a noticeable performance increase when you go to offline mode, which is how Larry
And I voted for offline mode because I figure they've got a patch this
I'm sure that if there's that much of a performance disparity just between being offline and being offline
They can probably implement that fairly easily
So I was like, okay test offline and then hopefully that'll represent what people will be getting once the next patch shows up
Okay, right. Okay. So so we're going along it's it's kind of working now
I still have a few issues, but I get over most of those and I get through it and I'm finally like, okay
I need to finally find a benchmarking run. I had plans to have a benchmarking run way before now
Sorry, of course. It's trash Luke
I had planned to have a benchmarking run way before now
I'm kind of worried because I need to get all these cards done
But at the same time I'm like three-quarters these cards aren't gonna work anyways, so whatever
Probably won't be as hard as I'm expecting it to be
Finally loaded to the game and
At this point I'm like, okay, I need at least at least a little bit of a fighting scene
I mean need a little bit of free-running and then I'll be happy good
I don't need much like I just need something that'll work and I'll just say in the video that it's not great because I ran
Out of time because it was broken and a benchmark run doesn't necessarily have to be representative of the most
Demanding scene in the entire game. In fact a lot of the time it's not because we're looking for a repeatability
Yeah
So a benchmarking run it should should be demanding enough that there isn't an obvious CPU bottle
And you're gonna want to try and show some amount of variance
Yes explosions and wide shots and close shots and lots of people and different things
Well, like we want to get a feel for how the engine performs and then we want to be able to rank graphics cards
Against each other by relative performance. That's the point
Yeah
How much how much more quantifiably more FPS will I get if I'm running a similar configuration to them in this spot in the game
If I upgrade my graphics card to this that's what we want you guys to know
Anyways, so I found a spot that was actually not too bad and it's pretty close to the beginning of the game you spawn in
I'm not gonna give any spoilers, but you spawn in you run forward and follow some dude
There's a fairly quick little sequence thing. You run a little bit further. You stab some dude you run a little bit further
There's a little quick sequence thing you climb up some stuff you climb up some more stuff yada yada fairly straightforward
And it captured the main things that I wanted to find and I was like, okay this can kind of work but
Considering how fast I found that I actually have a little bit of extra time
Let's see if I can push on forward and see if there's maybe a little bit more fighting scene
Because I literally just ran past this dude poked him twice and I kept going and that's all the fighting I got and I knew
People would have been like this is an Assassin's Creed. You have to stab more people. So I was like, okay, whatever
I'll try to find something really quick
Run forward kill some guy that I didn't really seem was I didn't think was super important in hindsight
like it kind of makes sense, but it went into this crazy long stream of
Annoyingly not skippable for a lot of them cutscenes which ended up being like eight minutes or something
Which if I had any amount of sound might have been good, but I didn't because I'm on a benchmarking rig
Yeah, so I'm just like sure I have no idea what's happening. You guys are talking. That's cool. Anyways, it goes to the next sequence
I'm like, okay. Well, how do I get back to the last one? Cuz
That's where my benchmarking run is
You can't
You can't go back at least at this point in the game
I don't know if maybe later on you're able to go into the the thing that I'm gonna not spoiler and
Go back, but at this point in the game, you can't go back in sequences
You also can't delete your save file and you can't restart the game
So you have your one save file and you have the furthest progress you've gotten to in that save file
What so for the next little while, I was very surprised that you couldn't do that in-game for one, but then immediately
I'm like, okay, whatever
I'll just do the super ghetto option and go delete it from either I'm assuming my documents or app data or
Inside the game folder not super likely that it's inside the game folder because you'd lose your saves if you uninstall the game
But it's possible. I
Start looking around and I can't find Jack. I can't find anything
I found a save games folder with folders that were just
Extremely long random strings of characters and inside those folders just files that were just random numbers
I'm like sweet found a couple that were from today, but like I didn't want to delete the wrong stuff
So I started looking online and I started tweeting and I asked people and some people shared some ideas
Someone was like, oh it's file
740 or 720 or something. I don't remember so I started looking for 420
So
But they can't be high
Because you can only run the game on keep on digging. Oh, there's two jokes there good one
Anyways, so
Eventually, I forgot. Okay. It was supposed to be a folder named 720, but there was no folder names 720
But I found a file named 720 which was created today. So I was like, oh awesome. Okay, we found it
Successful delete load the game save still there
What?
What okay, so I go and nuke like every single file that's been created today like everything I can find just destroy
Everything whatever like if I have to redownload a small part of the game
At least I have the bulk of it. Just go to like destroy everything mode
It takes a while to find everything delete it all launch the game file still there. I still have my progression file
I'm like, what the crap what is going on? Why can't I get rid of you?
Why won't you go away and then I'm like, okay someone posted online even if you're on offline mode
Maybe one of the things that keeps functioning if you have internet is your cloud saves, right?
So I'm like actually that kind of makes sense because maybe you go into offline mode to like hide from people
Maybe it's their version of anonymous. Yeah, but you don't want to lose your save files, right?
Like okay, that's actually not a horrible feature
I'm
Down with that. Okay, fine. I don't know how many people would mean
I'd love it if we could just manage our save files normally exactly
Yeah, but or if there was like steam where you could be like I want to use the cloud
Yeah sink or don't so yeah. Yeah options are good. Thanks Ubisoft, except no. Thanks team
So I'm like, okay disable go back through I find those old files that I just deleted again
So I'm like, oh they're clouds thinking that totally makes sense because it recreated them right, right?
So I'm like, alright cool delete them all load the game save file still there
So basically in a nutshell
We're gonna try and figure this out
Yeah
But it's just me it just might take some time and normally
Finding an Assassin's Creed run is just a matter of me making sure Luke gets provided with a review copy of the game that he doesn't
Have to pay for and he just goes and plays it because he's gonna play it
Anyway, cuz he's the biggest friggin assassin fanboy ever like a few hundred percent in every game up till now. Yes
Yeah, so there you go
So usually finding an Assassin's Creed run is as simple as Luke kind of having it in the back of his mind while he sits
In like yeah zombies out is his computer for four days after lunch. You know what?
I'm trying to think black flag
You were a zombie
For about a week after launch because as far as I can tell that was all you were doing outside of work time black
Have you even been tempted to touch unity? No, and I haven't Wow
I've been working in my spare time instead of playing and you've even played Assassin's Creed games
100% at Assassin's Creed games that by your own admission weren't that great? No, I hated three
Three sucked Wow. I was not a fan of three. So in the spirit of keep on digging we are finally
Releasing the keep on digging sure are we?
It's ready. The campaign is ready. We were supposed to have shirts
I think you can get banned from spamming your own channel. Really?
I think so
I actually really want this shirt
So I'm I am I am super stoked on this shirt because the way we designed the shirt
It's not just to be used on Ubisoft necessarily
You can keep on digging anything
So the previous keep on digging even though we didn't use that terminology would have been EA. So now we're just it's now Ubisoft
It was bro fist. Yeah, that's the origin of bro fist. That was the when we started on the show
Yeah, wow, that was all these gaming companies start our memes. I know thank you for being terrible game and keep on keep on digging
Like I I know that I didn't invent the phrase keep on digging but did did I popularize it? Yeah for Ubisoft. Yeah
Yes, it's all over the place because there have been some
fantastic keep on digging
Like PC master race on our own forum. Yeah, I've seen a lot of gifs of me digging on the show
So guys if you want a rep if you want a rep just to keep on digging this out of a hatred
Yeah, that is that is going on right now
Show your support for Luke
Keep on digging t-shirt
Um, oh good. We have hoodies. Oh, I might have to order a hoodie
Cuz the the the highlander hoodie I had is awesome. It's super nice. Is it the same kind? Yeah, it's the same one
It's the it's the same gildan one. I wasn't sure about so I gildan hoodies when we first
There we go when we first ordered our highlander stuff and I just kind of ordered one hoping it would be nice and I was
Checking if there were better options and that was all they really had but it's like super nice. You saw it, right?
Yeah, so I I definitely want like a keep on digging hoodie
Every winter season I get like a new hoodie. This was last season
Yeah, so everyone was everyone was pretty darn stoked with the with the quality of the highlander shirts
So that's why we're going ahead with teespring again because they did a really great job of that camp
I had a a guy on the forum and stuff
Str underscore Mape had two shirts from I think one from distant lines and one from teespring
Both show up with little holes in them and he got both of them promptly replaced
Nice. Yeah, so
That's good. All right. I
Feel like I had more crap to throw at you or Ubisoft. Oh, no, there's more like there's a there's a there's some crap going on
With respect to Far Cry 4 review copies
Polygon didn't get one really. Yeah
They have like a developer version that they can't use to actually review the game and then they couldn't get it working on any of
Their PlayStation 4s and then they just so they're just like so yeah, we're other publications got retail copies
We don't really understand why we don't have one. Well, so we're just gonna go buy a retail copy
We'll have a review for you guys as soon as possible. Wow. Yeah, they've got a blog post up. I was like, really?
Oh
Geez, and then what was it Assassin's Creed unity? The embargo date was 12 hours after the release
Total actually this ties into hold on. Let me just get made a video for that didn't me
yeah, I don't know if he made a video about it, but
Okay, I here can I can I do our next news article first then but yes is great
I'm gonna so happy with this. I'm gonna talk about total biscuits the thing
So Ubisoft stock and I actually haven't looked at it today. So this is the old headline, but Ubisoft stock fell
9.33%
Direct immediately after the Assassin's Creed unity launch. I mean we are talking not
inconsequential amounts of money and I am so glad because I am a huge advocate for
Gamers voting with their wallets if you don't like it, not only don't play it
No, excuse me. Not only don't buy it don't even play it
Don't even give them the opportunity to look at like piracy, you know seeds and torrents and and and try to
Yes, they can interpret that positively even by downloading it you can be supporting what they're doing if you
ignore Far Cry 4 if every single one of you and all of your friends
Ignore Far Cry 4 and all of their friends and all of their friends if you can make a difference to the pocketbooks of these
Companies they will treat you like your voice actually matters because as long as you keep giving them money your voice doesn't matter
Not at all
the only reason why we wanted to do and still kind of want to do an
Assassin's Creed unity benchmarking video and the only reason we will want to do a Far Cry 4 video is that we can warn
Everyone essentially. Yeah, look at this crap. It doesn't freaking work. Don't buy it. We're not a we're not a gaming publication
We are a hardware publication. So we're gonna look at it from a hardware perspective
This is how well this piece of hardware handles this game and then we're gonna do some investigation
Which is gonna take a lot of detective work in this case to figure out why this particular game doesn't run
Well on that particular hardware and we're gonna come to a conclusion
That should be fairly obvious by this point in time. It's true because we want you guys to know this stuff
But we're not gonna be doing let's plays of Assassin's Creed unity. No
Well exactly two minutes. Yeah in a way that you probably shouldn't play the game
Unless you're so we're gonna have it open on our computers
Unless you're very specifically trying to benchmark it. So to be clear, you know a
A stock dip like this can be temporary. It might not be indicative of a long-term struggle surprised
If it bounced back at least a little bit
But it can be a warning sign and it can be and at least if nothing else
It's gonna be an attention grabber because executives and bean counters will notice that even if they're not reading
You know every comment in the twitch chat of the Linus tech wan show stream, you know, yeah, they're not watching
I feel very disconnected from because I don't have my laptop right now. Oh, you don't have a laptop. Wow
You're like a you're like a you're like a peasant
no laptop miss
Why don't you just here? Why don't I miss it? No, because the the the peasants are defined by their
Disbelief of pcs being that's true. I didn't mean console peasant. Okay. I just meant you're a wan show peasant because
When glorious wan show master have laptops
I'll ask me to bring you on. Okay. Okay, so let's let's sort of let's keep going here
It's probably gonna bounce back at least a little bit. I hope it doesn't bounce back that much
I don't want Ubisoft to die Ubisoft has been a good company at some points in time
I think they just need a like massive be slapped to the face. So they wake the hell up and stop being idiots
Yeah, let's just bring back our keep on keep on digging lower third because we're still talking Ubisoft
They're like half the show this week and it's not like we want to talk about Ubisoft
I'd love for us to be I'd love for us to just be talking about like what a great game
Assassin's Creed unity is and how stoked yeah for Far Cry 4 I would love that to be the topic
That is the conversation we'd love to have like was amazing and Far Cry 3 was really really good
And you know what? No, it's incredible. Okay, what news did they get over last week? What news did they somehow get through?
There was something really big last week that I don't remember. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they pulled everything from from steam
Yeah, but no, yeah, but then it's back now there was other news though
That was really big and we were like, I can't believe you were even noticed like you made yourself
I don't even remember going on. Yeah, either way
I bliss come on bliss come on, right?
I was calm was going on and people still heard about what the hell Ubisoft is doing because they were
Such a big deal this home was huge
And then now there was just the Orleans a drain or release and everyone's freaking out over Ubisoft
What?
How are you that bad
I'm
Again really should I just not
Last time you got pretty I know last time was that okay forget it. I'm not going to I'm just gonna repair my joystick and
Play more x-wing
Okay, wait till your kids are at like a minimum age. So this was original articles here
This was posted by I'm the walrus by the way the Ubisoft stock falling thing
Original sources here were kit guru net and finance. Yahoo comm but there were also some other
Things that were never brought up by these other articles. We might not even need a charger. I think it's charged, right?
Yeah, just yay. Luke will have a laptop you
But one of the other things that was pointed out was that things are not looking that great for Far Cry 4 because some
Publications didn't get review copies. Yeah, so
Yeah, not necessarily a great sign and then like with stuff like that
that polygon
Posts like people are gonna read that and that is going to be taken as a negative review
If people are reading into it properly. Yeah, I would
Yeah
the fact that you for whatever reason are not enabling as many publications as
possible to get their hands on this game so that they can rave about how great it is is a
Really really bad sign and I mean total biscuits comment I think is is
awesome about the way that the Assassin's Creed unity embargo was handled where the review embargo
Was not lifted until 12 hours after the game's retail availability
Which is given the way that games cannot be refunded anymore. If you buy a physical copy or really any copy
Is is really telling I mean that really says something about how?
They might have felt about how quickly they needed to cash in on the immediate launch sales
Before the reviews go up and people start maybe considering whether to wait for even Far Cry 4 or some other game to spend their
money on
Not not good not good I would lose consumer confidence basically immediately if I had a Far Cry 4
pre-order which I don't but if I did have one I
Honestly probably would have canceled it once I read that polygon post cuz I'm I'm pretty skeptical already
There's very few things that I'll pre-order. I'll pre-order stuff like
Smash Bros for Wii U you would have normally pre-ordered Assassin's Creed actually. Yes, I would have normally done that
I have done that for every single other Assassin's Creed lunch, but this one yeah
So anyway total biscuit came out and said he is not going to accept
Review copies of any game that has an embargo that is after the launch time of the game, which is awesome
Which is awesome. And and I think I think that's I think that's great
I think that's a great way to handle it and it just I actually
Responded to I think it was that tweeter one of the related ones
Just because I was so blown away that you could have a review embargo
After people are expected to drop their money for the game
I mean no one in the hardware industry does that no one and you know what and you know what John John total biscuit
He has has actually tweeted me as well saying that he has no idea
How we seem to kind of pull off this weird thing where our advertisers are hardware companies and yet
we criticize these companies openly on our shows and in our reviews and
and somehow we've managed to take money from these companies for advertising maintain the trust of our viewers and
Maintain the relationships with these companies and do it all at the same time and he was just like how does this even work?
It's because there's a much different mentality with like computer hardware companies and gaming companies can be your hardware companies
seem like infinitely humble and they'll take whatever you say and they're just like yes, okay next time we do better and
And that's not true of all of them. No, but that's true of many of them
They just seem to be so much more mature than these gaming companies like
Someone like Corsair if I come out and I slam them about something. I'll get an email, but they're not gonna pull our funding
No, they're not gonna pull. They're not gonna refuse to work with us
They're not gonna stop seating us review samples because they value the input
What a front what a friggin concept right? Oh my god
amazing
Not really with gaming gaming they they they they tote their marketing muscles as much as they possibly can try to silence anyone that
They possibly can that would say anything negative about them at all
And then just try to slam games down your throat and then it is a generalization poured the DLC water down
Not every gaming company is like this. No
praise gaben, um praise gaben
Super giant games. That's really well. There's definitely developers and publishers that are good
And there's ones that mostly seem to try to do the right thing
But sometimes screw up and we have to understand and respect that too. And that's fine. People are human. They make mistakes we make mistakes
But it just feels Ubisoft screw-up. Looks it feels like some like Cartoon Network
like
Where they just keep falling forever. It's like EA last year. Yeah, we're just every week there. They were doing something horrendous
They fall down the hill and gather so much momentum because the hill is so large
That they have enough momentum to climb up the next one and then fall down it over again like ridiculous
Yes, stop screwing up hit a wall at some point and then just be like no we will be better. We're gonna shut up
We're gonna say nothing. We're just gonna
Make games that hopefully people want to play. Yeah, if they stop talking and start working some more
Maybe they can fix some of their crap. I
am just I am I
Gotta say the whole thing with the the draw call issue and Assassin's Creed unity is so believable
Yeah, because their whole thing their whole defense of unity to Ryan from PC per was we weren't gonna dumb
Down the level the detail and the objects in the city. It's like and every object is a draw call. Yeah, and and when
When when Call of Duty like massively out classes you in every possible appearance. I know that's
Bad I need something wrong. I know like Assassin's Creed is supposed to be the like, holy crap
This game looks good
I mean advanced warfare should have been taking all the headlines for crap and instead
I mean everyone's like oh, it's you know, it's probably
unfortunate that they didn't publish
After Assassin's Creed and Far Cry 4 so they could have cuz I suspect a lot of because you know how it's always
What's over the horizon? Yeah, you never look back at what was that thing? I didn't buy. It's always like, okay
Well Far Cry 4 is coming next or this is coming next or whatever is coming next. What can I get later?
I feel like if they had just kind of
Waited for all the people who didn't spend their money on all the stuff that came before them
They could have gotten an even bigger payday probably I I don't they needed a copy did fine. Yeah
Yeah, I'm sure they did totally fine, but it's just it's just like
How did you get graphically outclassed?
Whoa, whoa, Photoshop CS6 says Linus doesn't even play video games
Linus doesn't game as much as he'd like to that doesn't mean Linus doesn't play video games. He's starting to a lot more lately, too
I've been finding a little bit more time for it, especially on my shield. Yeah speaking of shield
Um, actually that leads us really well into not a Ubisoft topic
Hey, um Nvidia just announced that their grid streaming service and this was
This was posted by Jesper 101 996 on the forum and the original source is the Nvidia blog
But grid is coming out of beta
So grid has 20 titles right now including actually, I'm just gonna fire up the grid game list here
But they've got a Arkham Asylum Arkham City. They've got Alan Wake
unique American nightmare
they've got Darksiders Darksiders to Dead Island psychonauts just a friggin awesome game, by the way, if you have a shield and
You have an internet connection. That's good enough for a grid go play psychonauts
If you haven't already a Saints Row the third trying to which are to Ultra Street Fighter 4 like there's some pretty
Great games on this looks like payment plan stuff for this. Does it just come with a shield or okay?
so the beta has been free for anyone with a shield and
The non beta is free for anyone with a shield until June 2015
Okay, so you get about six months of free access to the game
That's a lot more than a trial
Yes
which considering the cost of something like a shield tablet and
And a controller when you are when you look at the shield tablet as oh, it's also a very competent 7-inch tablet
Yeah, it's actually a pretty darn compelling value
Yeah, that feels a lot like the I'm trying to remember the name of it
But those HP things yeah, yeah. Yeah the
Streams. Yeah where you get so much stuff with them. Yeah, where you get not just value add stuff
That's like hey, you got a 30-day trial of McAfee. Can I interest you in paying us?
Yeah, where there's real value ads that are relevant to the people who are using that device
So so you get six months or free if you buy if you buy a shield now
They're recommending 10 megabits per second down and 60 millisecond second ping or less to your nearest grid
Server, but they're expanding their grid server networks. So there's already the one in California. They've added one in Indiana and
EU and Asia are soon to come so there it looks like what they're building is and there
It looks like it's meant to be about like Netflix for games
Yeah
Now you can say what you will about the 60 millisecond additional latency that is not gonna be palatable for certain types of games
Are you gonna play csgo with an extra 60 milliseconds of lag? No, no, but you probably wouldn't have played that on a controller
What are you gonna play Darksiders?
Sure, probably that's probably fine
Cool yeah. All right. They've also got other news. The shield tablet is getting Android 5.0 lollipop and if yeah
They're gonna be they're gonna be I think I was on the phone with someone from Nvidia today actually
And he was saying I don't remember if he said they're gonna be the first or one of the first
One of the first device makers whose name is not Google to have lollipop on their device
I mean Nvidia committed back when they launched shield portable to
Prompt Android updates. Yeah, but come on. We've heard that. Yeah, we've heard it over and over again
How many prompt Android updates have you gotten for your galaxy device?
One per device is usually about the general rule. Yeah, and then you might get an update but
Everyone else has been using it for six months nine months by the time you get it if at all
Whereas in videos like on this? Yeah, it's actually kind of absolutely fantastic if I do say so myself
it's nice to see that especially when you're getting a device that like
Talking to people that aren't you
about shield is
Like often they don't really know what it is or they're like as a really a lot of support for it
Like I don't really see anyone using it
Now I see it around a fair amount when looking at stuff like the our forum
Yeah, and like within the office and like these closed ecosystems
But I got a message from someone either on the forum or Twitter where they told me how the shield was kind of
Embarrassing to be out and about with because people kept asking if it's a portable Xbox
Sorry, just go on but yeah just to illustrate the point. But yeah, like it's it's it's it's very new and it's very different
So people are a little bit skeptical about it. So I think it's actually really good for them that they're getting these like
They're pushing the update thing really really hard and they're actually
Repeatedly getting these really early updates, which is awesome because that's just gonna increase
Confidence that they are interesting products and they are they're really good. Would you buy an Nvidia phone?
actually
Probably because I know you're not into the tablet things so much not really and phones
The only reason I'm not super into phones. The only reason is because most of them are trash
That's a strong statement
It's true though
like there's so many like there's so many that have
Glaring issues that you like know someone must have figured out and then the droid turbo is just not coming to Canada at all
Is that right? No form
My brother tweeted them and asked and they were like no the droid turbo or variation max are not coming to Canada officially from Motorola
Oh, that's a bummer. So like awesome. What the hell the one phone that's like that's super cool. Nope
God, wow, that's really sucky
I mean, it's not gonna happen with Tegra k1 because Tegra k1s power consumption is just straight up too high
Yeah, but if Tegra k2 or whatever they end up calling it came to a phone. Would you consider it?
I mean, they're not that far away
They've already got the the tablet 32 gig which has LTE and they did acquire that LTE radio
Technology may occur not that long ago, so they can build their own radios
I don't think it's that difficult to I don't think it's that difficult. I'd be really interested
I would check it out. I'd want to check it out
I would definitely want to check it out if they got the if they got the the battery capacity, right and
They had a not trash camera
I would be definitely confident enough in the rest of the phone to be like, all right
Let's do this Nvidia is one of those companies where I think the camera could go one of two ways
They could either have a bunch of knowledge from because they know a lot about image process. Yeah, that's interesting
It's not like they don't have experience when it comes to image filtering to make things look better. This is
Nvidia's friggin wheelhouse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean they know that much about sensor technology
So so I don't know which way the camera would go and that's a huge part of any smartphone purchase
one thing of just to note is that right now the 32 gig version of the shield tablet and videos on fire with this
Announcement here comes with portal half-life 2 and half-life 2 episode 1 holy crowd Android versions
If you jump up to that one in addition to the grid thing
And those are all pretty good to play on that device as well actually especially portal was really good
I play portal on the shield part. Yeah. Yeah, and shield portable is getting lollipop support
But we don't have an ETA for that yet. So I'll have to wait cuz I don't really use my shield tablet much
I mostly use my portable. Yeah
All right other Nvidia news. This was posted by big
streams on the forum the original article is from tech report calm the GTX
960 has been found in an India import and export label
Data or something the record states 4 gigabytes of gddr5 a 256-bit bus
993 megahertz core and six thousand eight megahertz memory
It's unclear whether that is a base or a boost clock speed and the price translates to around
256 US dollars although we don't know if that will be a retail price or if that's like an Nvidia to their board partner price
Or a board partner to retailer price or just an invented or if they're gonna flip it
18 times three days before it's out because they kind of do that sometimes because they do do that sometimes
The speculation on the internet right now is that this is going to be a gk
104 based card
So actually the same chip as the 980 and 970 just like we saw with the 680 670 and 660 ti
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The sales pitch for phantom glass doesn't really change so I do find myself repeating myself a fair bit
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Story the only reason I reviewed the product at all was because the guy was Canadian
Okay, because normally screen protectors. I don't we've only done two screen protector
Videos and the entire time Linus tech tips has existed, and they've both been like very oddly innovative
Yes, some kind of real actual
Important thing that happened with them so the only reason I would even listen to him was he was Canadian
and then the only reason I wanted to review unit was because I was like
Okay, if this does what you say it does. I will like it, but
If it doesn't do what you say it does then I'm gonna throw it in the garbage and never talk about it again
And he was like okay, okay, okay?
Send over the review unit, and then the reason that we're doing advertising with them is because it's friggin awesome
Basically, it's a sheet of gorilla glass 3 that sits over top of the existing pane of glass on your phone
So if you already liked any kind of the you know the the glare clarity
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Characteristics of your phone screen it will be exactly the same
it does add a little bit of thickness to the front of the phone, but it's still compatible with other third-party cases and
It has this like nano coating on the bottom of it that actually works like it actually does what they say it does
It's I think you'd have to work pretty hard to try to get a bubble under phantom glass
And if you apply it wrong you can just pull it up reapply it
I've actually done it and it goes on perfectly second time around so pretty cool
I mean if it's given that it's kind of expensive
It's nice to be able to reuse it because I actually had to RMA my HTC one and eight
So I had to pull my fun. Yeah, yeah, you peeled it
yeah, so I put it in some saran wrap to keep it safe because I don't really have the original packaging anymore and
there you go my one I made is actually back as of yesterday and
Before we move into our next sponsor spot just wanted to share my experience with that
So I was a little disappointed with HTC because the first customer I might want to make camera lens cracked on my rear camera
Cracked and so rather than work through my HTC rep. I decided you know what just for fun
I'm gonna go have the regular customer
Defective product experience because it just cracked out of the blue
There wasn't a single mark anywhere on the entire phone other than a cracked rear camera screen
so I would have had to I would have had to literally take like
I hope it on like a very point of a rock but then catch it before it actually hits the ground
Yeah, or like take a chisel and like whack it or something in order to crack that thing
So in my mind, this is not something that could have been feasibly broken by accident and I see it as a design
probably the one
Design flaw in that phone that I really dislike is that they used a plastic cover on it
But there's actual flex to it when okay, maybe not actually it might not be plastic. Okay shouldn't say plastic
Maybe it's some kind of composite or glass or whatever else
But it's got some real flex to it
once it was broken and it has a coating on it that scratches off very easily just taking it in and out of your pocket and
Gives you blurry photos until you rub it off with toothpaste. This is a documented problem. So I talked to their customer service and
They basically the first person I talked to said
Seemed to be aware of the issue and said yeah
That should be no problem to for it to be covered under warranty
But they asked me to call my carrier to ask if they'll deal with the RMA for me because I'm in Canada
And that's the normal procedure. I kind of went. Yeah, sure. Okay, so I called my carrier
They didn't deal with it because I didn't buy the device from them
I knew that was gonna happen, but I jumped through the hoop just to
Humor them. Yeah, so I called back and they told me they couldn't guarantee anything about the repair
And then it turned out that they did want to charge me over $100 for the repair even though and the repair center
Center was not willing to advocate to HTC on my behalf or anything like that. I basically said
You guys are experts you look at phones every day. Is it even possible?
Is it even conceivable in any way that I could have damaged the phone in this way?
At all or does this seem like the kind of because it just cracked out of the blue and they just went
You have to talk to HTC. So I didn't pay the money
I ended up just going through my HTC contact telling them I was being jerked around and they got it taken care of with
In like an hour because that's normally the way that that I get treated
But I was I was disappointed in the way that an actual customer
Would be treated in that case, yeah, that's kind of
The problem the problem too though, is that like I get it physical damage is generally not covered under warranty
Yeah, but if it's a known issue it generally is so
It's a matter of whether they're acknowledging the issue or not. The Internet knows about the issue
I don't know if the internet knows about a cracking issue
But the problem is that my my rear camera was scratched already before it even cracked
So I should have been eligible for a replacement had I are made it sooner and it had not cracked on its own
Anyway, so that's why I was so upset. So I get it. I understand. I'm just a little bit disappointed
I've had to deal with very few like very few
customer service for like ship out and repair stuff
One of them was an Xbox 360, which is hilarious
And that was actually super easy right because they were all red-ringing
So I'm sure their whole factory is just like in and out in and out in and out in and out
Because it was just a swap and then the other one was
EVGA when I was doing my mineral computer and that was like the best on
The phone experience with someone who was supposed to help me in any form ever, right?
So EVGA is kind of like I've always liked them because of that their their customer service was fantastic
All right
So let's move on to speaking of fantastic customer service and super easy to use the squarespace.com
Yeah with their 24-7 support and their well, basically, it's just a great service. We love Squarespace
We love those guys and they are on fire late lately
They recently introduced Squarespace 7 and it's a huge upgrade over the previous iteration
So they've redesigned the interface
They've got integration with Google Apps
Which is really cool for any businesses that use Google Apps like say for example the one that you're looking at right now
We use can I help you?
We use Gmail for for our internal email and all that kind of stuff
They've got their new partnership with Getty Images so that you can have great looking images to match your great looking site
You know
But the funny thing about Squarespace is it feels like some of the stuff they do is more selfish than anything else
It feels like okay
So the partnership of Getty Images is basically you can get very reasonably priced beautiful images to put on your site
But it seems like they're just a bunch of geeks. They just want to care about websites looking really great
Yeah, and they're then they don't want to see people take their beautiful template and put some crap image on it
So it's like it's it's almost like and I'm not saying selfish in that I know it's not beneficial to the user
I'm just saying it seems like like they just kind of are like, oh they'd like don't screw their stuff in bad ways
Yeah, we take good images
We really love our product and we wish you wouldn't like make it ugly
It has to be so we're gonna get you guys this like great
Less expensive Getty Images thing and you can get that get go get good images
Don't get much for them. They've got new templates. They've got cover pages and
Yeah, I guess that's
Yes, um also I wanted to just cover the usual talking points
So if you guys don't know what Squarespace is it's a fast easy affordable way to build your own beautiful website. They've got
Only $8 a month and you get a free domain for your trouble if you sign up for Squarespace for a year
They've got responsive design. So basically that means your website scales to look great on any device and they've got integrated commerce now
That was actually one of the previous things that they rolled out. That is pretty freaking cool
So if you want to build a store on Squarespace
then you can rock on and do that so you can start a trial with no credit card required and start building your website today and
you get 10% off if you use offer code Linus and you decide to go ahead and use that website for your store or blog or
restaurant or
Somebody I don't know maybe you want to make a website dedicated to pictures of your junk. Wow, I don't
Preferably not please don't but you could yeah, you could it's technically possible
Possible so have the technology which is yes
So one of the twitch chat was like please tell Squarespace to fix their documentation for developers. It's really bad. I've looked at it
What are you talking about for one and for two? I'm sure you can just contact them
I've had to contact them about stuff before they responded very well and very quickly
so if you're having a problem with something which
I'm not sure what you're doing because I've looked at actually a fair amount of the documentation for developers
It was all fine from what I've seen. Maybe there's something that isn't I don't know but just contact them and it should be fine
So this is the best way. I think YouTube could have possibly done this they have implemented
implemented YouTube music key and this is the first
Subscription based YouTube service that we're seeing and I think they did it. Absolutely
Brilliantly, so it was posted by Raph banan on the forum and the original articles from official Android blog spot calm and
Basically, it's going out of beta. So it's not like it didn't exist already
It's a monthly subscription service for $9.99 a month
But it is $7.99 a month right now, which happens to be exactly the same price as a Google Play music
Subscription so if you sign up now if you happen to be a Google Play music subscriber already
Yo, then you can just sign up for this you get a full Google Play music account
For exactly the same price if you sign up during the promo and then you also get ad free music
background play on music, which is pretty nice if you like to listen to music on YouTube and
offline viewing of music on
YouTube it's invite only right now and those who get an invite get to try it out free for six months
If I can get this for $7.99
I'm sold done because I all and even if I can get it for $9.99, you know what I will probably buy it
That's actually pretty sick I really like the background play thing
Yep background play and to be able to listen to playlists on monster cat for example and not have the ads interrupt your groove
That would be really nice. I
Think they knocked it out of the freaking park with the way that they implemented
Really cool music was the one to go after first and the way that they did it enabling it to be the same price as
A streaming service that they already offer that's already great. I love Google Play music, especially the curated playlists. It's awesome
Google Play music is more for me than just I feel like I'm doing another sponsor integration
But it really is amazing. I'm just a paying customer. It's just nothing special. But the way that they that they manage it
It's more than just
Not pirating music. Is it the same? Sorry, I might not have heard that part. Is it the same thing?
As if you have the Google music that you have right now, is it the same do you get this? Yeah
Yeah, okay, so they're together. Oh, wait, no, no, no. No. No, this is this is gonna be a more expensive subscription
But would okay, but it will also
Yes, and then for a promotional period of time you can get it at the same price, okay, so you should buy this one
Yeah, yeah
But like I mean it's more than just not pirating music and saving money versus going and buying albums
It's it's for me. It's all about the curated playlists where I can it'll be like hey, it's Tuesday afternoon
Do you want to listen to like, you know?
pick me up music or do you want to listen to like mellow music and see I'm feeling lucky radio is is
Awesome and does a really really great job
Interesting sharps latest Ixo prototype sets the stage for 4k phablets as if it matters
You sound surprisingly excited for this. What's happening?
Madel posted on the forum. The original article is from tech report calm and
They have they have made a prototype
2560 by 1600
4.1 inch panel. Oh geez
That is some incredible pixel density. So we're talking
736 pixels per inch that is
massively more than the galaxy notes
515 pixels per inch the Google Nexus 6 is
493 pixels per inch and Apple's iPhone 6 plus is 401 pixels per inch which quite frankly is
already enough I
Should point out that the droid turbo
has I
Really like the display
But the issue is that I don't know if it's related to the fact that it's AMOLED
And I'm really enjoying the deep blacks or if it's related to that. It's 2560 by 1440
Yeah, because on the g3 I didn't feel like there was a benefit to the higher
Display, but the contrast wasn't very good
I was icky and contrast is more important once you reach a certain point then, you know
I was really surprised at
Marcus MKBHD. He did a collaborative thing with the verge like ultimate smartphone like dream smartphone
It's like well
I would take this one and then I would
Change this and I would squeeze this and I would do this and it would have a bigger battery and all that kind of stuff
And I was really surprised he picked the screen from the g3 for his dream smartphone. Yeah
Oh, that's one way of putting it that's I would have said I would have said to each his own button just know
So the latest exo prototype will have 11.5
Micrometer pixels that will likely be impossible to see with the naked eye
Okay, when was that article done? Which one was that was that done before like no for came out and stuff. No
No, it just went up two days ago
Okay
Okay, so one one, okay, so so that's really cool that we won't be able to see the pixels but one potential drawback is
That higher density displays typically require more power to achieve the same brightness because as you pack in more
Electronics do hickory in order to actually get light through it to your eyes
You have to have a brighter backlight now Apple seemed to figure out how to address this on their 5k iMac
And that thing is so bright and they've achieved the same brightness
They say I don't have a last gen one, but they've achieved what they say is the same brightness as their last gen one
Which is ridiculous. I have it on like
10% at all times. I don't understand why it needs to go that way. But um
Like a random spotlight
Yeah, I mean honestly, I guess here all I have to say about this mass production will reportedly begin in 2016
So all I have to say about this is by 2016
battery
Technology better have caught up in some meaningful way and I still don't care because I would still
rather have a 1080p or if you have to have a higher spec to make your competitor look stupid a
1440p panel that gives me better battery life
On my device right and better performance and better performance at native resolution in games and other applications
Like I don't want to necessarily have a 4k display on something that gives me no benefit and tanks
My battery life and means I'm gonna have to run
Interpolated resolutions in order to get decent performance and in mobile games
I don't play a ton of mobile games
But I'm it's more of I'm speaking on behalf of what you guys should be thinking if you do play mobile games
Yeah, there you go. Ah
Rumors
r9
390 X
Fiji XT this is posted by Paragon X on the forum and this thing looks banana hammers
may feature
4096 stream processors so 64 compute and 256 texture units with a
Four thousand ninety six bit memory bus
This is due to the fact that AMD is rumored to be using a completely new
Technology for the memory on this particular card the more traditional way is we've got the chips laid out on the card
And then we've got contact points on the bottom of the GPU that lead out to them
So that's why it was so costly to implement wider memory buses
That's why we saw memory buses continue to increase on graphics cards until we reached 512 bit and everyone kind of went whoa
Hold on a second
This is really expensive now in terms of the area that we need for the package in terms of the contact pins that we need
To create on the bottom of the of the chip itself and in terms of the PCB design
We need to lay out all those traces to all those memory chips this sucks
So Nvidia just bailed and they stopped at 384 bit and AMD is actually I don't think Nvidia's ever done a 512-bit GPU
Was 480 512-bit? That was the only one I could think of
This 480 was an interesting card, let's see
512 bit
Or was it no, I don't think it was
285 was the 285
Okay. Anyway, if Nvidia ever had one they bailed and they started doing 384 bit for their high-end cards
And then now we even have a 256 bit GTX 980, which is
512 bit DDR3
Okay, so that was GTX 285
So so it got really expensive
But in it's in a similar so an analogous technology to what Samsung is now doing on their 850 Pro SSD
Where they're not using the latest super tiny manufacturing process and instead of trying to go wider with the design of their chips
They're actually stacking them on each other. So it looks like this technology is going to enable AMD to deliver
Massive massive memory bandwidth. We're talking like a 1024 bit interface per chip
Without
Hopefully a huge significantly much bigger incremental cost
One challenge is that right now we're gonna be limited to 4 gig
configurations because
This is this is a high next technology or SK hynix technology and it's the only the first generation
but um
Yeah, we could be looking at bandwidth for the memory bandwidth for the graphics card in the 640 gigabyte per second range. It's nuts
that is
Monculous. I I very reportedly I'm not a huge fan of just rumor mill stuff. You
Very specifically hope this one comes through
That would be really exciting to see this card. I wouldn't be surprised
I mean, it's makes sense. The the problem that I have with rumors is
If you've been around for a long time, it would be really easy to fabricate a lot of them
Yeah, that's true because you could be like these things would make sense
It's rumor printed and a lot of the times I even wonder if people are just like
This is probably what it's gonna be and just rumored off and then they're like, oh, yeah
Look, it was accurate because usually it's gonna be accurate because you can look at things like roadmaps
Like if you know SK hynix says, okay, we're gonna be sampling it here
We're gonna be going into mass production here and then you look at fairly credible rumors
Like when the 390 X is rumored to launch and you go well gee, why would they be mass producing it if not for?
X. Yeah, you know a lot of the time you can kind of guess. Yeah speaking of exciting memory technology
This was also posted by big strewns on the forum original article is from tweet town
SanDisk releases
Memory mounted SSDs these fit in DDR3 memory slots and they're available in up to
400 gigabyte capacities so either 200 or 400 gigabyte. Oh
Crap, I need to set this reminder for myself for for later
Otherwise, I will not remember. Oh good. I already have a reminder for five minutes before it happens
Yay back to the dock. Um
yeah, so 200 and 400 gigabyte capacities and
Basically, you'll just slot SSDs into memory slots
What I mean, this is not a consumer oriented technology
You're not gonna be putting this on your z97 deluxe or whatever. This is this is more for servers
But what it does is it removes complexity components and cabling from server designs if you had a server where you?
Didn't actually need a ton of memory, but you did need a lot of storage, but you wanted to be compact
this could make a ton of sense and you need like
Crazy fast storage. Yeah, maybe not a lot because these aren't actually very high-capacity drives
Well, hold on a second 400 gigabytes per drive on something like a 16 dim
motherboard
costs
Yeah, it's expensive. I didn't say it wasn't expensive and it's not even gonna help that much in terms of space
Really like it's yeah, it's largely gonna be for speed
Okay, well it offers 880 megabytes per second of sequential read speed and 600 megabytes per second sequential writes
But the big one here is actually the warranty. So it's support. It's got a five-year warranty at
10 full disk writes per day
So the application for this looks like it's more like cashing and less like mass storage
Which makes a ton of sense so you could build extremely compact racks that are just designed to
Cache data and they can actually do full flushes of the entire force
so we're talking four terabytes per day per drives in this cache server that has all these drives in it and is
Lightning fast very responsive and has extremely low complexity in very small size
incredible technology, I mean I would have said for a story for
Because databases will need a lot of RAM but in servers that aren't gonna need a ton of RAM
Which there's definitely some of them if you want to cache some of your drives and you can fill those slots with these that would
Be sick because again the reducing complexity thing not having those extra cables and stuff. That's super super nice and to be clear
They're non-volatile storage. So they're not like memory and that as soon as the system powers off the data is gone
So they're just SSDs. They just go in a dim slot. That's pretty cool. I want to see one. Is there a picture in here?
Yeah, I think so. It's just my screen sharing is not working. So I'll check it out
A BMW is developing street lights that can also charge your electric car
now
the whole idea of having roadside stations or parking stalls with electric chargers in them was kind of like
Yeah, okay, I guess
this idea
Wow, this is game-changing because okay
The idea is not that you would have to replace all the street lamps in your entire city
The idea is that you would be able to retrofit your existing street lamps with chargers and be able to monetize it
Brilliant. What city doesn't sign up for that? They get to go greener
They get to have an additional new revenue stream in the longer term
They can monetize things and and I mean you'll see this
I think we're gonna see this and obviously more densely populated urban areas first
But all of a sudden the whole parking thing
maybe you can have like like
you know a bundle thing where you buy your parking for that spot and that also includes zapping your car for the time that you're
there and
Ends up making a ton of sense for electrical electric vehicle owners. I think it's awesome. Yeah, that's actually really cool
I don't think Tesla has commented on it yet
At least not at the time that we were working on the dock
But I would imagine Tesla and Musk would be very supportive of a technology. Yeah
Anything that expands the the infrastructure for electric vehicles is gonna make a big difference
To people who are considering buying one. The only thing I can imagine
Musk being against is if he looks into it and realizes that it's
Like I'm completely hypothetical, right?
Realizes isn't a fact. I'm just saying like if this happened
Realizes that it's crap. Like if he comes up with something we didn't think of
Yeah, like it's bad because of this reason or he tries it and it's bad because he observed this thing or whatever
That's the only real reason why I could see him being against it because he's a definite advocate for trying to get more of that
Kind of stuff out there and if he can suddenly
Utilize all of these things in that ever-growing map that he's trying to do
Yeah
Which is you can travel here to here to here to here if he can suddenly just go
There's all these spots now filled up. Of course, we're gonna keep putting superchargers
Yeah, because those are gonna be the super fast ones, but this will massively expanded network. I'm sure he'd be down for that
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm super excited for for the whole for the future of that. I think this makes a whole lot more sense than
Than solar-powered roadways. Yeah in terms of how much thought appears to have been put into it
You know any I don't think I don't think Musk doesn't seem like the kind of guy who gets all butthurt because you know
Someone else came up with a good idea. I think if it's a good idea, he has no problem going head-to-head
Tesla's EVs versus BMW's even we'll just try to
I do a better thing. I I think that's I think this I think this will happen
This is the most sensible idea I've heard yet for how this could be implemented and I'm really excited for it
Yeah, all right. Speaking of of bad ideas. Google did a phishing survey
Not this kind of phishing ph ph phishing, which is a method of attack that actually gets you to give up your information
Voluntarily, yeah, yeah by by tricking the user similar to social engineering and you know how you know
You and I'll have conversations where we'll we'll get a particularly stupid spam email
Not a phishing email and we'll laugh it to each other. I'm gonna go really could anyone fall for this?
Yes, I used to work in tech support places. They do Google's phishing survey revealed that
14% of people submit information to hackers
Wow, Google and UCSD looked at a hundred phishing emails picked out of a random sample
Self-reported by Gmail users the researchers also reviewed a random sample of a hundred phishing websites
Caught by Google's safe browsing system to further understand how the scams work
These websites were all created through Google Forms, which is how researchers were even able to access the data and even the worst
Performing phishing websites like think about some of the ones you've seen where it's just like
Obviously, not a real website full of typos like you click on any navigation on the site and it doesn't go anywhere
It just leads to a broken page like we've all seen them even on the worst-performing
3% of users still submitted their data on the most effective sites as many as
45%
submitted their wonder if this
Data took account for faked stuff
probably not
but
I would speculate that most people aren't going to go to the trouble of
Even because okay the tech savvy user
Unless they're one of those
Super tech savvy users who runs, you know a virtual machine on their computer solely for the purpose of opening up
You know potentially malicious stuff, you know, unless you're one of those I would I would be a little bit more
You know, unless you're one of those I would I would venture that most
Moderately power users are just not going to click it. Yeah, because you don't even want to go to that site. That's bad
You just don't even want to go there. I used to okay when I used to work at certain shops
Depending on where it was situated. So like depending on the demographics of the area around me
Um, I could get from like one a week to maybe two a month
Uh, it's like 0.5 a week people coming in like oh I had
This is even worse. This is just phone calls. Someone called me from microsoft
And said that my computer was sending them messages saying that it was having problems
and they need me to go on my computer and type all this stuff and then
I'm like, oh, yeah, you screwed up
It's such an awkward situation. They're like, how do I get my money back? I'm like you don't
Don't
Like
It's gone
So according to google's research here, um hackers spend an average of three minutes figuring out how much an account is worth
Once they have access and will apparently move on if the account doesn't seem valuable enough. So there you go
The solution is to either avoid phishing websites entirely not give them your data or not have any money
Yeah, yeah. Oh, but then you're okay. You still need to not be a doofus because the hacker then tries to get money from your
account's contact list
Uh, so you can be compromising your friends and family members. Yeah, you're being dumb
Uh speaking of being dumb gizmodo.com's article about this website. I can't remember what it's called right now, but this is just
terrible so creepy website, um
um instacam claims to feature feeds from ip cameras all over the world including
11 000 in the us alone and uh gizmodo browsed some of the feeds finding people's living rooms
Um parking lots porches and even bedrooms in these feeds and the site says that the way that they did this
Was by exploiting people who haven't changed the default username and password on their ip camera
Um
That's creepy I don't know if I should be saying this on stream but it's fairly widely known and
Spreading the knowledge that exists might help get it fixed. Um, there's certain google search terms you can use to find
uh
Open ip cameras and you can get straight up into their control panels to the point where you can move them around
like
It's crazy. I was doing like a presentation in high school talking about like internet security stuff
This was a long time ago
and I did a live demonstration in front of the class and like moved the camera around and everything and it's like
Yep, it's really bad
I mean it baffles me that more things don't require you to change the password the first time that you log into them
Because anyone can be lazy
Even someone who knows better can be lazy
But maybe you're just spamming next and you don't notice that one of them was whatever whatever really important. Yeah
Anyway, assassin's creed creator launches new studio. The original article is from game spot.com
So following his reported firing from ubisoft last year the assassin's creed creator
Uh has opened a new studio in montreal called panache digital games panache's other co-founder another former ubisoft veteran
Who was fired in 2013?
2013 or yeah, sorry panache's other co-founder, um was another ubisoft veteran
So in june 2013, he sued ubisoft for 400 000 and the rights to purchase 1666
Which he was working on at thq montreal before its collapse
Cool interesting. Hopefully he does good things
Yeah, well based on how good assassin's creed is with his involvement and how rubbish it apparently is without his involvement
oh, I guess we need to uh
Okay, so just just just uh, i'm I I have to I have to kind of pitch this to you guys again
Because nick will give me a hard time if I don't
But the keep on digging shirt apparently has already sold like 40 shirts
Oh, that's awesome because you guys are pretty into repping the keep on the keep on digging so we have yet another ubisoft
Topic, it's just a short one. Uh, because they just can't stop can they so check it out. It's over on no
this one
Oh, yeah, I know
Oh, okay
My brain's gonna bleed before we're done this
Uh, hold on i'm just trying to i'm just trying to post our uh our link here
I don't know if that link is gonna work
Hey, look at that. It works. So if you guys want one of these shirts check it out. I'ma spam my chat
boom
Nick's like here's one link. I will do things the way that isn't obnoxious. Good job. Nick
And like says what it's for and stuff. You're just like blah
No dog, and it's funny because of the stream delay, right? Yeah, so just out of nowhere just
Huge amounts of nothing. All right, so ubisoft patches
microtransactions before frame rate issues
So this is this is a post that has actually been pulled down already
Let's just go ahead and uh and pull this up here. So this is on imgur
Um, there we go
A patch has been deployed and the issues with purchasing and receiving helix credits is now fixed on ps4
We are continuing to work to solve the issue on pc and xbox one
214 thumbs up from the 214 members of the assassin's creed team that were told to thumbs up that post pretty much
Yeah
Believable. I just want to make sure it's pulled down. When was this posted? Oh, it just says 14 minutes. That's not helpful
Yeah, wow the rest of their facebook is just we are aware of the issues we are working on it
Yeah, that's already november 11th. So I think we're we're done. Yeah. Wow. Yep, it's gone
That post is gone. They don't want us to they don't want us to talk about that. Nope. All right, correct
I think we got it got not much else. Not much else. Apple's chip suppliers are apparently gearing up
Get it gear hanging up that's a different for mass production of the apple watch. I know it's a
It's a competing product. That's true. That works. I think it's funny
I think it would have been better. Where's my humor wearing on you? Oh, there we go
Except that's still a different company. I know
You got to like it's got to be within the apple ecosystem. No, it doesn't it does
Chip orders are estimated to be around 30 to 40 million units for a debut in early 2015
Stainless steel and gold editions will reportedly retail for prices starting at five hundred and four thousand dollars respectively
Uh, the
Lenovo s90 is the most ridiculous phone. I think i've ever seen speaking of patent trolling
Um, oh no, if anyone was gonna if apple was gonna go after anyone about anything
This oh, right. My screen sharing isn't working. Right bloody balls, right?
This should have been this should have been it because this is absolutely
brutal
Here we go
On the left the iphone 6 on the right the lenovo s90. Wow
On the bottom the iphone 6 no way on the top the lenovo s90 they even copied the promotional images
I mean the antenna band is the same. Wow
Wow, wait, are those different those are different. Oh no
That's not good
Isn't that horrible apparently this phone is not going to be available in all regions
And i'm guessing this has to do with that lenovo knows they have
No ground to stand on if they brought this thing to the us there would be a sales embargo like that
That's uh, it looks like it's a china only china only design not surprising
This is posted by shadow captain on the forum though. I tweeted this out earlier this week
All right, rather I posted on facebook because I thought that was hilarious
Like just embarrassingly blatant copying that's funny
All right, so I think that's pretty much it. There's only one other thing that I wanted to call out
Um, we did a couple live streams if you guys are interested in programming so becoming a coder
We actually did a number of live streams. They were sponsored by modus the same guys that we partnered with for geek stakes
Earlier this year where they gave away a bunch of really cool stuff. They're a uh, they're a placement firm for coders
so basically they work with companies that need coders and coders who need placements and they
Connect them. Wow, um
Not as aggressively as that. They're like pretty nice about it a little bit more considerate of each other's needs
Yeah, so anyway, they sponsored a series of interviews where we took some folks from code school
Which is um a video a video tutorial online
Uh online site where you can learn coding in a fun and engaging way
and they had a few of those folks come and interview with us about sort of how to how to become a coder and
Of particular interest is number two
That one was really excellent
Especially if you know any females who are thinking about programming because she talked a little bit about what it's like
As a female learning to program and being involved in the developer community
I thought that was really uh, I thought that was really really cool
And actually our third our third interviewee was um was really cool as well because a lot of what we talked to him about
was
Not sitting in front of your computer, you know finding inspiration for your programming projects in the real world by
Being a real person and doing real especially stuff
like apps or if you want to build a if you want to build a program which is going to
Solve someone's real world problem. You probably need to get off your butt and go figure out what that problem is
because we see a lot of uh, we see a lot of
a lot of solutions
That are to problems. Nobody has yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which is great if you like have a different job
And you're just solving your own solutions that other people might not have. That's awesome. That's a
Really good way to program and actually most programmers that I know just do that because they'll have other jobs and they'll program
They'll program their own solutions to stuff
Um, but if you want to like make your job doing stuff like apps for phones
You probably need to figure out stuff to go do
Huh look at this, okay. Well, we've got one more we've got one more news item
Hi linus. I'm sure you saw some news floating around today about statements made by richard huddy in regards to directx 12
I wanted to provide comment from amd to give some context around what has been said thus far
There have been reports based on a video of richard huddy of amd making speculative comments about directx 12 support on versions of windows
Richard huddy does not speak for microsoft. He was unfortunately spec
speculating for microsoft publication of key dates and milestones for windows 7 life cycle and
Okay, that's not very interesting. Never mind
Boring email. Okay. Well, I think that's pretty much it no longer interesting. Goodbye
Bye all right, so yeah, I think that's pretty much it. Thank you guys for tuning in to the land show
um
We'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel and thank you
Also to so many of you for tuning in we had almost 6 000 viewers
We have over 6 000 viewers at one point not for a huge amount of time, but we did well you guys are awesome and we will see