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And we have a lot of great topics for you.
First up, the end of the GPU shortage is nigh!
Rock on wood, of course, because the last thing I want to do is jinx this mess.
Also, we're definitely going to be talking a little bit about the video that went up
yesterday.
Yeah.
A lot of people had some questions about how that particular mess came to be.
I have some teasers for you guys.
We have locked in compensation for the head of LTT Labs, and we are going to be ready
to announce a name next Friday on WAN Show.
You guys are going to want to make sure you do not miss that.
I'm going to try to arrange to have this individual on the show to talk to you.
I've got some hints for you guys, and I would love to see if any of you get it right, so
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Apple, Meta, Discord, and more tricked into giving user data to hackers posing as law
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All right, obviously we're going to have to jump into our first big topic today, the end
of the GPU shortage.
That's right, good news everyone!
The shortage hellhole that we've been living through may finally be coming to a close.
It seems that there are GPUs available at a number of stores, multiple skews of GPUs
in stock, multiple price points, I mean the pricing is still a little wild, but ASUS came
out and said they are dropping the MSRPs of their GPUs substantially, and it would seem
like if there are enough GPUs around, people are going to stop paying exorbitant prices
to scalpers, which means that, competition!
Things should start to get a little less wild.
Don't take my word for it of course, you can see for yourself, I'm going to fire up microcenter.com
here, just going to do a quick screen share.
We're already seeing the effects both from traditional retailers and from scalpers.
Absolutely look at this, 3090 Ti, yes $2200 is a freaking lot of money, but it's only
$200 higher than the MSRP, which isn't even that unusual for an FTW3 Ultra version of
a top tier GPU.
It's already going to be slightly higher than the factory version.
RTX 3070 Ti, remember this is a card that launched after Nvidia launched the 3000 series
with MSRPs that were really aggressive, so 3070 came in at $500 MSRP, now the Ti version
is going today for, okay, $200 more, so is it a little inflated, yeah, but it's not crazy
you know.
It's not as bad as it has been.
Yes exactly.
It's an improvement, it is better.
Exactly man, and you know what, I feel like there's going to be a lot of people out there
that are going, yeah Linus, whatever, we know that you're running a 3090 and you can, you
know, conjure a card if you feel like it.
Yeah, no I agree with them, whatever Linus.
But here's the thing guys, okay, A, I actually bought more cards during this period than
I ever have had to before.
It's true.
Why?
Because we decked out the editing den.
I actually bought a crap ton of super expensive GPUs, so that sucked, right?
And number two, guys, do you have any idea how hard it's been to do our job?
I've actually seen a lot of comments from people that noticed like, hey, you guys really
pivoted your content a lot over the last 18 months because when nobody is excited about
building PCs, you gotta do something else.
We gotta find some way to engage with people.
People enjoy the bling content when there's a reasonable downstep option that they can
buy that is still really cool.
It's fun to see some Halo product, it's fun to go look at some brand new amazing car when
you know that you can still afford a car from that brand, maybe not the same one from that
brand, when it's basically impossible to buy anything at all.
Then why are you even going to bother being a PC enthusiast?
Those people that me were like, I didn't used to, back when I absorbed this type of content
much more frequently, back when I did that, I would do it mostly around when I was making
builds.
Exactly.
I wasn't a fan viewer, I was more like informational viewer.
Informational viewers, you're not building computers anyways, so why are you watching?
Okay, what's really cool about seeing the latest and greatest is that because, especially
the way that things have been progressing faster lately, because of the way that computer
technology continues to develop and get more exciting, whatever you see that's latest and
greatest shiny Halo-tier product, well, that's probably going to be available to you as a
mid-range product one cycle or two cycles down the road.
When everything, when even an entry-level enthusiast gaming card was completely unattainable
to people, man, it just sucked the fun out of it.
And for us too, we're sitting there going, what is even the point?
We can't not review a new GPU, I'm not going to be like, Anthony, don't even bother.
Actually we did do that for one card, I can't remember which one it was, we were just like,
forget it.
But not for big Halo major releases, stuff like that, you got to-
We can't just ignore them, we have to talk about them, but how boring is it to talk about
them and just go, yeah, everything's unreasonable, this sucks.
It's this sucks.
We can only make a video that says, yeah, this sucks.
Oh yeah, budget builds guide, this is like bottom of the line stuff, it's going to cost
you $1,400.
Yeah, it just pulls the entire life force out of the gaming and the PC enthusiast communities.
So I just, yeah, I am so happy, this is such a relief for me.
And the other thing too is like, yeah, I was able to get a card for my personal rig for
sure, but it's not like I don't have friends or neighbors that are affected by this whole
situation.
We had the neighbor kid come over and he's just like, hey, Linus, I got this, I picked
up this used PC on Craigslist.
He was basically trying to pull a Scrapyard Wars.
He picked up a used PC on Craigslist that was like pretty decent, but didn't have a
GPU.
And he's like, and I realized that GPUs are totally unreasonable.
This sucks.
I'm like, yeah, man.
It does suck because for years we've been suggesting people that they pull their own
Scrapyard Wars essentially, go out, buy used parts, try to do all this kind of stuff, but
the used market is just destroyed.
Like it's brutal.
It's really whack when it's technically cheaper to not go to the used market, right?
Like that's just, oh, that's an uncomfortable situation.
I've got a mind blowing story for you.
Our new, um, our new place, uh, is, let's just say could be a little bit challenging
because the road network that leads to it could be a little bit challenging to navigate
in heavy snow and we don't get a ton of snow in Vancouver, but for five, 10 years, pretty
much every year, we've gotten at least one significant dump of snow that grinds the whole
city to a halt unless you have a very capable vehicle and snow tires or chains and not being
able to get in and out of my neighborhood is a bit of a problem for me.
So I started to exploit, exploit.
I started to explore vehicle alternatives to our Honda Odyssey, Toyota's latest version
of the Sienna.
Their minivan actually has a, it's a hybrid, but it's weird.
It's like kind of in between a hybrid hybrid and a plugin hybrid in that you do not plug
it in, but it can run on pure electric for very short periods.
Interesting.
Very strange.
Okay.
All right.
So anyway, but it's a hybrid, not a plugin hybrid, but what it does have is it have,
it has electric motor assisted, selective all wheel drive.
So if it detects a need for all wheel drive, it can actually go into all wheel drive mode,
which would be great for being able to, and not only that, but we've taken up skiing with
the kids and getting up and down the mountain.
I'd be a little more confident in all wheel drive vehicle, but I'm not ready to give up
that minivan life because sliding doors, man, cool.
Trust me.
Okay.
When you're a dad, you want doors to go like this.
Okay.
Like this, like this.
Can you manually go into all wheel drive as well or is it just automatic?
I don't know, but it's definitely better than not being able to do it at all.
Not at all.
Sure.
Okay.
Brutal George in Twitch chat says snow tires, greater than all wheel drive.
Absolutely.
We do that too, but snow tires plus all wheel drive, definitely, definitely a thing to do.
So I went to the Toyota dealership.
I knew that I was okay.
There isn't a single Toyota dealership I called literally all of them.
It's like, there's like nine of them in the lower mainland.
Not a single one had a 2022 Odyssey on the lot, not for sale, even on the lot physically
on the lot, nothing, not a single one.
So that's hilarious.
Number two, when I went in, I was already aware of this, but I was told that it is anywhere
from a six to eight month wait.
If you get lucky to a two year wait for the top tier model, which conveniently wasn't
the one I wanted anyway, and get this, the sales guy.
And he really like had no reason to lie to me about this.
Cause he's like, yeah, you're going to be waiting a very long time.
So I understand if you don't want to, I had someone call in earlier and they, they canceled
their reservation because they bought a last year's model used for $10,000 over MSRP sticker
price vehicle scalping.
That's the new meta.
Okay.
That's what we've come to vehicle scalping.
Imagine paying, imagine like what timeline is this?
Where you drive off the dealer's lot and your car appreciates 10 grand.
It's weird, man.
Get this.
It gets worse.
I went to go drive my girlfriend's car the other day and she, yeah, she, she expressed
concern because if I crashed it or whatever, and I was like, if I crashed, it'd be my fault.
Like I would, I'm not going to just like leave you to try to figure out getting a new car
when it's my fault.
And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not worried about that.
You wouldn't be able to get one.
I was like, Oh, so when I went shopping for the car for my aunt and uncle, they settled
on the Mitsubishi Outlander plugin hybrid.
Cause I told them, I was like, look, I know you're not, I know you're not comfortable
going full electric like Yvonne's parents.
Cause we did cars for both of them.
They've both done so much for us over the years.
And it really felt like it was just the right thing to do.
Both of them have done so much childcare.
They'll go shopping, they'll spend $400 on groceries for us, like load us up on, you
know, school lunch stuff and, and you know, everything we need and they'll like not take
money from us.
So we were just, it was time to give back.
Anyway, the point is, um, I told them, look, I understand if you're not comfortable going
full electric, if you're kind of not ready for that paradigm shift yet, but trust me,
you'll want something plug in hybrid.
I'm not going to let you buy something that's just gas.
And I actually, I had some people who were quite critical of the way that I ultimately
steered them and that they steered themselves.
Like we went to see a lot of different options, full electric and plug in hybrid, and they
settled on the Mitsubishi Outlander plug in hybrid and people were like, Oh, Mitsubishi.
I tell you what, right now, they are laughing with gas prices being what they are.
And get this at the Toyota dealership, morbid curiosity.
I asked, cause this was one of the other vehicles they were considering waiting for.
And they were looking at, I asked, what's the lead time on the RAV4 prime guess year
and a half.
Oh, you're not even close.
Mr. Lefreniere.
I'm way too low.
Oh, you're way too low.
Three years?
Three to five years.
What the heck?
Now I don't, I don't think that it will actually take five years.
That seems like it was long enough that they were just like, whatever, just make it a really
big number so that people are either buckled in for the extreme long-term or not at all.
Yeah.
Or they just won't get on the list because we do not need more people on this list.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Can you imagine making your car purchasing decision five years in advance?
Literally hypercars do not have lead times like that.
I'm serious.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
So both, both my aunt and uncle and Yvonne's parents, my in-laws, their cars, the model
Y and the Outlander plug-in hybrid.
If they were to turn around and sell them today, they're worth more than what they paid.
I think Brandon was saying his model X that he bought like four years ago or whatever,
he saw one on Facebook marketplace that is like almost exactly what he paid for it.
Oh my goodness.
Right?
With similar mileage.
It's insane right now.
I wonder how long this is going to last for because like, I've seen pictures a long time
ago of like a whole bunch of, I don't know if I think they're F-150s, but it was some
type of Ford truck.
It was just fields of them.
And they weren't able to be sold because they were fully built except for certain electronics.
And so like is, are they going to get a big windfall of those electronics and then be
able to sell these things or like what's actually going to happen?
I don't know.
It's been rough.
I don't know, man.
It's been rough.
Yeah.
This is, if this keeps going for a lot, it was, it was the F-150 and the Explorer.
Okay.
If this keeps going for much longer, like it's just going to get worse, especially with
people with the gas prices going, how they are and stuff like that, people are going
to want to file into the electric field and then there's even lower production for that
overall.
So it's just, yeah, it's going to be bad.
It's going to be, it's going to be a fricking mess.
I mean, my volts worth almost what I paid for it and I bought that thing like five years
ago.
I have, I've put tens of thousands of miles on it and it's still worth pretty much what
I paid.
That's crazy, man.
If Chevy was still making the volt, they would be killing it right now.
Yeah.
They would be killing it.
Do you think it was just like before it's time?
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I said that at the time when I did the review of it, I was so bullish on
it.
I was so positive because it's got so much of the benefit of ice, which is that you could
just go on a road trip.
Spur of the moment, you fuel up in seconds, it's an ice car effectively, but it's got
so much of the benefit of an electric car off the line.
It actually, you get that immediate response.
You go short distances or sense between between 70 and a hundred kilometers on full electric
before you even have to turn on the gasoline engine.
Yeah.
Like it's, it's kind of an amazing car.
And even when the, even when your battery is depleted, you'll still get regenerative
braking.
You will still, it'll still operate as a hybrid.
You fuel economy is like crazy good.
Yeah.
And I just, it drives me so, no, I don't drive a bolt, a bolt with the V that was such stupid
branding.
That was rough.
Yep.
Yeah.
I loved, I loved the volt just, ah, just sucks.
And you don't need as much lithium to build them.
So you don't have to do as much damaging lithium mining per number of cars that you're building.
Cause you're not, you don't have to build in this gigantic range.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I love the idea of hybrids and I know Canada has announced like they want, they want a
hundred percent EV sales by, I think it's like 2035.
This isn't in the doc, so I might get something slightly wrong.
And they're, they have like percentage targets moving up to that date and all this kind of
stuff.
And I was looking at that being like, yeah, like Evie sound really good.
That's a lot of production overhaul to finish and I know there's, okay, 15 years, whatever.
It's still a lot of production overall to finish, fully re-kidding entire factories.
It's really expensive and really time consuming.
And nevermind the factories, where's all that lithium going to come from?
Where's all the lithium coming from?
I know there's other battery technologies coming up, but I haven't seen anything else
actually going into production, right?
Battery tech takes a long time to actually get in the field.
I was reading about how the copper industry, copper mining industry figures, they need
something like a hundred billion dollars with a B worth of investment to meet the growing
demand for the next eight years or something like that.
Like it's not trivial.
You don't just, well, yeah, today I want to do this now.
We'd like to have twice as much copper than yesterday.
It doesn't work like that.
These are projects that need to be started with five-year roadmaps to regulatory approvals
and build out and completion until they're actually online, right?
It's not trivial.
Yeah.
But I was reading that kind of looking at it, just hoping, but I don't think so, that
they're actually including plug-in hybrids with that, but I don't think they are.
I think they want pure EVs and I'm like, I don't, that doesn't seem great.
I'm far more interested in plug-in hybrid, I don't know.
Me too.
I love it.
I love it.
If I was buying a car right now, I would be aiming at a plug-in hybrid.
Yeah.
When I was telling Luke, I was thinking of getting myself like something stupid, you
know, get a Taycan or remember the crazy hypercar we talked about?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It had the, the Navara, the name's easy to remember because it's pretty close to what
my wife said to me when I asked if I could have one.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
So, uh, yeah, so Luke was like, Hey, uh, are you getting rid of your volt?
Yeah.
It's interesting.
I, my, the only reason why I didn't really is that I just drive so infrequently.
Yeah, that's fair.
But that's what the volt's perfect for.
That's true.
The maintenance is like way less.
You don't spin up that gasoline engine, except I just wasn't sure like how much I'd have
to pay.
Like if I sell my car and buy that one, like how much is that loss and blah, blah, blah,
blah.
Yeah.
There's taxation and all that, all that ugly stuff.
Chasing souls as a remark, never going to have one.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
I hear ya.
I hear ya.
Hey, is it not fun to dream though?
You know how much that thing goes for?
Too much.
2 million.
Yeah.
Too much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that's one way of putting it.
Anyway, looking at 3dcenter.org we can see there is the biggest availability and lowest
prices on GPU's in two years and the prices will have to drop further for the cards to
keep selling.
In addition, uh, the previous American administration, stupid tariffs, uh, were lifted and Asus GPU's
are set to drop by 25%.
So here's the discussion question from Alex Clark.
Do you think prices will actually stay down?
I'm a bit concerned that Nvidia AMD and everyone else.
So Intel, I guess is the everyone else in the GPU market has realized that people will
pay much higher prices for GPU's than they originally thought.
I think we were, I think we were already seeing this trend.
I think we've been seeing this trend over the last like four or five years, five years.
I mean, I'd say we've been seeing this trend.
The first time we saw a thousand dollar GPU, if I recall correctly, was the 8,800 ultra.
And that was over 10 years ago.
And so the idea of a thousand and remember that was a thousand dollars MSRP.
So FTW's and whatever, I think we're $1,100, $1,200.
What year did Intel do that massive jump on their extreme additions?
That was with the, was it the 5,000 series or 6,000 series?
I think you might be right.
I think it might've been the 6,000 series.
So that's when it felt like it was very heated up for me.
That's when like prices on a lot of different things were jumping quite heavily.
So yeah, I don't know.
I don't think it's going to like fully reset to where it was.
I do think it's going to come down.
Could it even come down more?
Could the less price sensitive consumers have already gone in and now it's the people who
are like, Oh, I'm a wait.
I think the, I think the less price sensitive consumers are people that go in repeatedly.
That's fair, right?
So they might just go in again when 4,000 series launches, which is going to happen
this year.
So we're going to see Intel arc launch this year.
We're going to see the next AMD cards launch this year.
What we might see is that at the very high end, there's a less, less of a lowering than
on the lower end.
If that makes sense.
Oh, Celsius.
Corrects me.
The 8,800 ultra wasn't a thousand dollars.
The original Titan was, you know what that I, sorry, I screwed that up.
It was probably a thousand dollars Canadian because I was working at NCI X at the time.
So I would have priced a card at a thousand dollars, but that would not have been a thousand
dollars for our Americans.
Yes.
Thank you very much.
Yes.
It was the Titan.
And the justification for that was the Titan had more workstation like capabilities and
then they just stripped it.
That was when they were like, Oh, it's not a gamer card.
That's why it's so expensive.
It's a Titan card.
It's different.
Yeah.
And then it went completely out the window and they were like, if you want the best for
gaming by a Titan.
Well, they figured out everyone buying them was gamers anyway, so, and then they could
charge more for the professional one.
So whatever.
What was the original thing?
Nvidia going to Nvidia.
The original Titan was nine 99 if I recall correctly.
Yeah.
Trying to look up anything with Titan is so annoying.
Good news then GPUs finally coming down, but there's bad news.
Oh.
The price of Silicon wafers is projected to increase by 25% by 2025 TSMC has raised prices.
Intel is coming into the third party fab game.
I'm super excited about that, but don't celebrate just yet because part of Intel bringing all
those fabs online.
I mean, have you guys seen the way that Intel is, I wouldn't say taking a beating on wall
street, but they are certainly not a wall street darling right now.
And there's concern that CEO Pat Gelsinger is just, you know, whoa, he's spending so
much on new fabs.
Will there be a return?
They're going to have to make that back.
They're not going to come in and undercut everybody.
Right?
Like they're building more fabs because we need more capacity.
Even if prices go up and I, okay, okay.
I do not do stock tips.
This is not investment advice.
I think Intel strategy is awesome and I think they're going to kill it.
I think it's just one of those things that's a longer term play than, you know, your, your
investment TV host is prepared to advise based on, um, I'm bullish.
I own, but I own no Intel stock.
I have no plans to take an Intel stock position.
The only investment that I have outside of Linus media grouping, creator warehouse, ink
float plane, media, ink, okay, like companies that I and Yvonne control is framework.
Okay.
So I own my a hundred, whatever, a thousand dollars of framework or $200,000 of framework
that should give you some idea, by the way, how much it's affecting our content.
I don't actually remember how much it was that that was a conscious decision.
I want it to be out of sight, out of mind.
I don't want it to be about the appreciation.
I just, I hope they've achieved their mission.
That's all.
Um, I mean, if I make money, great.
I like making money, you know, but I I'm not thinking about it, but I like, I like what
Intel's doing.
That's, that's what I have to say about that, but fabs online when there isn't enough capacity
to other fabs makes sense.
It makes sense, but it costs a fricking lot of money.
Yeah.
Uh, man, this video still hasn't come out yet.
You know what?
I'm going to give you guys a teaser because those Intel, those Intel fab videos that they've
taken, it's taken a lot of layers of legal review.
Uh, a lot of, a lot of rounds of blurring and small edits, uh, but they showed us, this
is crazy.
Uh, one of the construction projects that they have going right now, they literally
built their own concrete factory on the corner of the lot because that's, they were going
to need so much concrete that rather than trucking it in, they just make it there.
Okay.
Big brain, big brain.
Okay.
Hey man, gas is expensive.
Oh, I love it guys.
Those tours are going to be wild.
Don't miss them when they finally get uploaded.
It'll happen eventually.
Oh, uh, anyway, there's more bad news.
Uh, as more foundries are getting built, uh, in Europe and the U S there's greater demand
for wafers, but the way for making companies don't have plans to expand as quickly as the
foundries are being made.
Yup.
Oh, that's a big problem, right?
The supply of actual wafers.
Oh, balls.
Currently almost all wafers are sold through 2024 and some suppliers have said that all
their wafers are sold through 2026.
So for those not familiar, the wafers are cut from the Silicon ingots, which are these
giant, like 150 pound, okay.
That's in the videos too, but we actually show a full ingot.
It's crazy.
That's wild.
Um, that's sweet.
So they're sliced from an ingot and they're these crazy, super pure Silicon.
It's not just like, yeah, just go to the beach, you know, grind up some fricking sand.
There's your Silicon boys don't work like that.
So there's no, there's no way first, even if you have a fab, which is great, I guess.
Um, however, even if wafers do go up, that should only be a few percent increase in cost,
but it does mean it will go up.
Um, Anthony also says, Hey, don't forget about neon.
Recent geopolitical events have affected the worldwide supply of neon, which is an important
material.
It's a noble gas K important material in the production of microprocessors and the biggest
worldwide supplier of neon happens to be Ukraine.
Yeah.
So um, I think I speak for everyone I, when I say, um, you Putin, Putin, Putin.
I like it.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
I don't even care.
I don't even care what your name is.
I hope history forgets you.
But that would be great.
Yeah.
Well yeah.
We should learn from probably not actually.
Yeah.
We probably should not.
Yeah.
We should learn from mistakes.
But I, I, yeah, I just, yeah.
Right there, buddy.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Obviously that is the least of the problems being caused by what's going on over there.
Just it's disgusting is pretty much all I have to say for that.
I condemn, I condemn aggression in any form.
So yeah, yeah.
In other news, are we, do we have any topics about April fool's day jokes that aren't our
own?
No.
I mean, usually the, usually the wancho April fool's day episode has like reviewing all
the other people's April fool's day stuff, but I don't think there's like any,
I actually didn't look that closely at anyone's other than Corsair's because Corsair's so
funny.
They actually sent us a working one.
So even though it is, it's the 1% keyboard.
We have a, we have an LTT short on it.
I shot it with our, our new social.
I think our social RGB, the K1 RGB, our new social guy is off probation in like two weeks.
So you guys will be meeting him very soon.
I love that it has a wrist rest.
It totally does.
Totally does.
Uh, this is interesting.
How do you find a short on the web version of YouTube?
I don't know.
I have no, Oh, here it is.
Okay.
It eventually shows up here.
This compact keyboard is great for gaming, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to watch
a short together.
King of gaming keyboards.
All right.
Keyboard for the 1% K very expensive.
I game on it by the way.
Oh, before I game, I have to go to corsair.com.
Is there no, there's no timeline.
You can't, you can't scrub.
Oh, that's so stupid.
Shorts are an amazing feature.
Yeah.
Why can't you scrub?
That sucks.
You missed me going to corsair.com though.
Luke.
Okay.
Wait for it.
Wait for it.
I got to get the drivers.
I got to get the drivers.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Got to go to corsair.com.
Here we go.
corsair.com.
Oh, we have it.
All right.
Thanks.
Jono.
Yeah.
Here you go, Luke.
You can, you can witness it in person.
Yeah.
Wow.
Beautiful.
Absolutely beautiful.
Shorts on floatplane when, uh, I don't, I don't think we have pretty much any interest
in that actually.
Yeah.
For the time being just release a short video if you want it.
We're not algorithm based.
So like just release a short video.
It doesn't make a difference.
We probably should like upload them or something.
Maybe with no notifications so that people don't get spammed.
Oh, they're asking for you guys.
Okay.
I thought they meant like the feature.
I was like, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, fair enough.
I don't want to work with them.
I don't want to work on, I don't want to work on that.
We can just, we can just have you, how do you open this box?
I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually.
In the meantime, I want to give you guys some teasers.
The lab, the lab project is very much underway.
We have two people that are already in office right now.
We have deals, not maybe inked, but at least penciled with at least two more and the head
of the lab.
I am ready to give you guys some hints.
So number one, it is not Dr. Ian Cutress.
Ian already came out with a video on his channel, Tech Tech Potato.
You guys should go check it out.
His new venture is called More Than Moore and he's in kind of an independent analyst
role.
So that's what Ian's up to.
So I will drop some more hints though that will hopefully get you guys a little bit closer.
Okay.
It's a former written media superstar from like the, the mid two thousands.
I genuinely don't think that's going to help very many people.
You don't think that's going to help very many people?
It will help some people, but I genuinely think most of the audience is not.
Okay.
White guy.
Nerdy.
Yeah, that's probably not that helpful either.
Yeah.
That's really in the tech industry in the mid two thousands.
Shut up.
This is amazingly perfectly overbuilt by the way.
I know, right?
This is great.
Sorry.
Keep going.
Okay.
They are a veteran of one of the big three tech sites in the US.
They're relocating to Canada.
All right.
They do not have a prickly personality.
There's some people guessing someone that has a very prickly personality and it is not
that particular person who I have had my disagreements with over the years, but I think we're in
a pretty good place now.
So Hey, if you're out there, I think we chill, right, buddy.
It is not, it's not Steve from Gamers Nexus.
He's doing its own thing and I don't think I've seen it.
I will give one more hint.
They are currently, uh, Ooh, no, I'm not going to give that hint.
Yeah.
That's too much.
I'm not going to give that hint.
Um, so far I think it would be really hard if you gave that one.
It's like, yeah, I need it to be pretty hard because I think there are still people that
this particular person works with that do not know yet.
Right.
And, and they should be, they should be the one to tell them.
Right.
They should be the one to tell them.
Yeah.
I probably wouldn't go that much further then.
Yeah.
I'm not going to go any further.
I'm super excited to tell you.
And guess what?
Next week we will announce it for real.
I'm hoping to have this person on the show.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
Which would be really exciting where we can talk a little bit about the vision for the
lab.
So they wouldn't physically be here, right?
No, they'd, they'd have to call in.
I think they're not up here until, uh, late this month.
I should talk to, I've got a, I've got a buddy who works on this like remote call thing that's
supposed to be better for streaming.
So maybe I'll talk to him.
But cool.
That would be, that would be awesome.
No, I have not given a name before.
What's the matter?
Huh?
Oh, and I don't think I saw people guess, which is good.
Yeah.
All right.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe, maybe, uh, maybe he's not as big a heavy hitter as I thought.
It's just been a while.
Maybe I overpaid J J K. We good, we good J K.
Uh, speaking of, uh, totally paid the appropriate amount, sponsor spots, uh, let's do one more
topic first.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's do one more topic.
Let's do your, uh, your, your social engineering topic here.
Social engineering topic.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Let me find it.
Social engineering topic and more tricked into giving a user data to hackers posing
as law enforcement on Wednesday, Bloomberg, Bloomberg, Bloomberg, I am president of everything
now.
J K I'm not president of anything.
What a campaign he ran though, but right.
Yeah.
Bloomberg reported that large tech services companies like Apple and Facebook gave user
data to hackers who forged emergency data requests or EDRs EDRs are used to bypass warrants
and subpoenas orders signed by a judge in cases of imminent danger to get subscriber
information that tech companies hold hackers, uh, with some now a part of lapses, wow, stunning,
uh, posed as law enforcement submitting EDRs using hacked email domains in 2021 the fake
requests are made to appear legitimate, of course, uh, using four signatures of real
or fictional law enforcement officers.
Data released as a result of EDRs include IP addresses, phone numbers, and home addresses.
That's a lot Apple in particular is commonly cited as being more privacy focused than other
competitors and now has a non-zero amount of egg on its face after heavily advertising,
uh, that what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone stuff.
Uh, I mean, the second Apple agreed to have a data center where all their Chinese user
data is stored, basically run by the Chinese government.
You knew that what they were saying was just obvious horse.
So why do we even acknowledge Apple's privacy messaging at this point?
Phones are not secure devices, none of them.
Why do we, I don't, I don't get it.
It's like their environmental messaging.
Just ignore it.
In one ear out the other, ignore it.
If you like the product by the product, but understand you're just buying the product.
That's it.
Life is constant.
PVP.
You have to understand that a lot of these companies like they're, they are, they are
paying an actively large amount of people to go against what you should probably be
wishing for and trying to, to fight you and push you into situations where you think differently,
uh, in, in a beneficial way for them.
Anyways, moving forward, uh, in response to the news, Metta said we review every data
request for legal sufficiency and use advanced systems and processes to validate law enforcement
requests and detect abuse.
Um, although that clearly didn't work.
So that's a very interesting statement to follow that up with, um, one second.
No, um, did you do, yeah, so there's some discussion questions here.
How can we trust tech companies?
You can't do respect to the private information they collect, uh, if they can be conned into
releasing it to anyone who claims to be a cop.
Well, you can't in the first place, um, because if it's digitally transmitted at all, there's,
there's potential zero days, there's potential whatevers.
They could be like a lot of these companies are actually extremely good at security.
Just to like, just to be completely honest.
Yeah.
The fact that the, that the point of ingress was social engineering tells you that their
digital security might actually be great, but humans will always be a fly in the ointment.
And this sounds like pretty advanced social engineering.
Um, uh, but you just, yeah, you just shouldn't, you shouldn't inherently just trust anybody
with your private information.
You should, you should try to be as careful with it as possible.
Should EDRs exist, whoa, do the potential benefits of catching criminals outweigh the
risks for consumers?
I think that's maybe not the question for us.
Yeah.
I, I didn't even know about them until today.
So I think weighing in on them is I am unprepared.
I think it's finally time for us to do the de-Googleify your life video.
It's going to be a ton of work and I don't think it'll get a ton of views because by
and large, people are not interested in it.
They want convenience, but how to run your own as you know, your own Dropbox on your
own NAS, on your own network and just have everything be walled off from big tech.
I think it's just something we need to, we need to just kind of.
Even in those situations, like those, those self hosted Dropbox things is still running
some form of software.
People are still going to be able to find zero days for it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes.
If it's on the internet, it's not fully safe.
Sure.
There's nothing you can do about a zero day.
That's fair enough.
But when we're talking individuals, I think the obscurity of the target is helps a lot.
A great degree of protection.
Not entirely though.
No, no, you're right.
By that logic, nobody would be looking at people's unsecured webcams, but they do.
Yeah, exactly.
Because sometimes you can just sniff out targets and it's not even people actively doing it.
They'll find a zero day, be able to sniff out targets and they'll just scatter shot
and grab everything they can.
And maybe there's some banking information, maybe there's some other stuff, whatever.
But you know, at least you're, at least you're doing your due diligence, at least you're
doing something.
Yeah.
You know, so yeah, I think we definitely got to, we got to, we got to tackle that.
We got to do that.
Question number two, this is, should we have ever trusted our private info to these companies
to begin with?
No.
And Anthony actually put his notes in here and that's why I no longer use most big tech
services if possible.
I mean, one thing that I will say from personal experience, I'm not going to give too much
detail, but I mean, I think I should talk a little bit about this experience.
I think people not talking about it just allows scammers free reign.
I think you shouldn't go into very much detail.
Okay.
I don't want to go into very much detail, but my wife and I were recently victims of
wire fraud and the point of ingress was a company that we worked with that had just
company that you worked with.
Oh yeah.
I'm not going to say who they, what they do, but I'm going to say what happened was a third
party gained access to their email system, full access.
So what they did was they basically, as far as we can tell, they chilled in there for
an extended period of time.
Which is common.
Yeah.
Once you got access, you don't act right away.
So they chilled in there.
They watched incoming things that were happening.
They watched who the clients were, they, they, when they reached out to, to us, it was in
the tone and style of writing that we were accustomed to.
The from domain was correct because they had full access to the email system.
Our messages going to them were being diverted and then we're being replied to from the correct
domain and seemingly from the correct people, even just like,
Which that's going to get past so much like common practices for, for, for sniffing these
types of things out.
Absolutely.
Cause a lot of people will like, okay, this is a little suspicious in terms of the request
or whatever.
So I'm going to jump in.
I'm going to check this domain.
I'm going to check these keys.
I'm going to do whatever, but they had all that stuff, which is crazy.
And so, you know, the conversation that Yvonne and I had, I'm not even going to say who ultimately
was the one who sent the wire to what was ultimately a fraudulent address.
You know, the other of us basically said, could have been me too, could have easily
been me.
This is very sophisticated.
Apparently this is called business email compromise.
It has a name.
So there you go.
And the good news is that through methods that I am not going to get into any detail,
even though some time passed before we were made aware, uh, we have been able to freeze
the funds and we are currently working through the fraud team X, some fraud team and legal
authorities on getting it returned to us.
So our sincere hope is that we are going to come out of this without learning a very expensive
lesson.
And I will also say that we will absolutely be putting more measures in place for any
wire that goes out, any payment that goes out because a wire is very challenging to
recall.
It's basically like sending cash effectively.
So um, Kevin close and float plane chat says wife and I work for a bank and we deal with
this stuff more and more recently.
Yeah.
I would say it's, I basically, what I said when the thing happened was that I, you know,
I've never, I've never encountered a scam.
So convincing.
This is, this is so many tiers above, you know, I'm a Nigerian Prince locked in jail.
All I need is for you to post bail for me and I will send you a million dollars, right?
Like that.
This level of sophistication is incredible.
And I, the reason that I want to talk about it is that I have talked the talk in the past
about how important it is for people who are victims of fraud and scams to not be ashamed
and not keep it to themselves because it's so important to get the word out there.
And I feel like even though I haven't given all of the details because I don't want to,
I don't want to dox anybody.
I don't want to get anybody in any kind of additional hassle, you know, I've given you
guys enough details that in your daily dealings, and if you share this story with other people
that you know, hopefully they can put additional measures in place that will help protect them
from it because it was a really sophisticated attack.
Yeah.
And this, this technically actually does not solve all the problems, but picking up the
phone is helpful.
They can change the phone number in the email.
Yeah.
That's a, that's a fairly common thing, but try to try to, yeah, try to have the original
phone number.
Yep.
Don't call the one that's in the email.
That's right.
Call the original one that you have or the one that's listed on their website, which
again can also be compromised.
Yep.
And this is, this is a crazy thing because they had access to the email, they had access
to all their templates.
So everything was on proper letterhead.
And this was like a multi dozen email chain going back and forth negotiating on this wire.
Yeah.
This type of stuff gets past a lot of the common practices to avoid social engineering
problems.
It does.
Um, trackle says it's not that sophisticated compared to Nigerian print scams coming from
some random email domain.
Yeah.
Writing in the style.
It's pretty sophisticated writing in the style, continuing on with a current thing, a current
project that is already ongoing, picking up right where it left off with all the right
names, all the right communication styles, email going back and forth correctly as far
as the user can tell.
It's pretty sophisticated by comparison.
Yeah.
I wonder what that person's definition of sophisticated is.
Cause like DDoS isn't very sophisticated.
So like where is there zero?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's uh, I think it's just a little bit of sort of armchair armchair coaching, you know?
Yes.
Why did you drop that ball?
I've done cooler stuff than that before.
Yeah.
So it's tough.
It's tough.
Um, kill for says, can't you hold the company accountable?
It's a hundred percent on them.
So it's a little complicated, right?
We still need to work with that company for one thing, uh, for number two, assessing the
blame in a situation like this is I think one of those things where it certainly wouldn't
be as simple as full blame here or full blame here.
We did send the wire.
Um, it is my belief that the notification to us could and should have come sooner, but
that's something that would have to be settled in court.
We could spend so much on lawyers that it ends up ultimately not being worth it.
Yeah.
And sometimes you can sue for your legal fees.
Absolutely.
But what if this is, what if this is a, this is a situation where the company just kind
of goes, well, okay, well we're bankrupt.
See you later.
Well now, now he's going to pay our legal fees.
Someone will.
Yeah.
That's challenging.
Right?
Yep.
Yeah.
Uh, this guy does stuff.
You know what?
These are words to live by.
No matter how savvy you think you are, you can be had.
Don't be a jerk.
Sound the alarm.
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's what I'm, that's what I'm trying to do right now is say, look, it happened
to me and I'm not going to say I'm the, I'm the savviest customer in the world, but I'm
pretty aware of things to look for.
And this one, I got by my radar.
There were things that smelled weird about it.
And there were times we, you know what, we, we probably knew better between the two of
us, but we were in a hurry and actually that's a, that's a big one.
Just being in a hurry.
I was just going to say, I think that honestly the biggest problem here is that you guys
just have so much stuff on your plate.
And I was, uh, I was reading up on how people are defeating two FA these days and a big
one is figuring out what the two FA devices and there's a way to generate spam login prompts.
And so once you've compromised the password, you then, you know, especially in the middle
of the night, for example, you, you, you do like a few requests and people they're not
thinking right.
They'll just return one.
And then you're in.
And once you're in, you add an alternate recovery email and you, you can do all these things
that they might not get a notification for.
Actually a lot of services are better about giving you a notification when an email is
added and things like that.
But there are still things that can be done that could compromise, that could at least
give them access and at worst compromise your access to your own accounts.
Yeah.
There's also just like, I mean, while, while we're talking about security stuff, I was
watching, um, this video recently where someone was talking about war driving.
Have talked to you about, I've talked about war driving before.
War driving.
I don't know if I'm familiar with the term.
War driving used to be more common back when wifi passwords were like just incredibly easy
to crack.
Uh, people would walk, not walk, people would drive around with a laptop in their car with
stuff running to just automatically crack all the wifi networks that they drove by.
And you could effectively make mobile internet by just setting up a system that would jump
onto these networks that you had previously cracked as you were driving around.
Um, someone was talking about modern versions of that because modern wifi encryption kind
of defeated that sort of, uh, except that a lot of people use extremely defeatable passwords.
So it's like, yes.
Okay.
You can't like beat these encryption levels or these like length of passwords in a reasonable
amount of time.
Uh, if it's garbly gook, probably like, yeah, there's technically a chance that it'll grab
it on the first attempt, but the chances effectively zero.
So forget about it.
But there's a huge amount of people that just use their phone numbers.
So this guy drove around war driving, but with it only guessing numbers, only numbers.
And he used the local area code as the first few and just got tons of them.
Like it was ridiculous.
So don't do that.
So funny.
It's gracious.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Oh, all right.
Security's tough.
And it's an active activity, active activity.
It's a, it's, it's an active process that people have to take part in.
Um, and a lot of people won't have a war.
It's very boring and it's very annoying to keep up with and people won't have a problem
for a long time.
So they'll let it start to slip and then they'll get hit and it hurts.
And then they got to figure it out from there.
It hurt real bad.
One of the things that I want to, that I want to add to our data backup strategy is an air
gapped backup.
One that literally, or maybe like, Oh, this would be kind of cool.
Like cause we wouldn't try to do the vault.
The vault doesn't have any backup.
I don't care about that, but the real server, it would be kind of cool to have like three
machines that are like physically air gapped or like, like you a, so you, man, how would
you do this?
Like either physically air gapped, like with a robot fricking arm that like pulls the ethernet
cable out or like, um, you know, you go into the firmware of your switch and you do actually
disable the ports.
So each of them is like physically air gapped for two out of three days.
So you actually roll to one, Oh, then it goes air gapped.
Then you go to the next, then it goes air gapped.
Then you go to the next, then it goes air gapped.
And this one comes back on so that if you got hit by like a ransomware attack or something
like that, you'd lose that max a day.
You'd lose at max a day worth of data and you'd have a full air gapped backup because
they can, they can encrypt your whole network.
That wouldn't defeat a super targeted attack, but that would defeat most things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause super targeted would just wait until they were loaded on each server.
Yeah.
Amazon glacier asks jacks.
Yeah.
That would be, that would be an option.
Oh, Peter says doing an air gap for a fortune two 50 company right now.
The air gap is done through a firewall, randomly automating connectivity.
Oh, that's kind of interesting.
Yeah.
Again, though, that doesn't, but there are ransomware that will look for revolving backup
schedules.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's it's not going to stop everything.
Nothing has ever air gapped.
Stuxnet proved that says cold do.
Yep.
Okay.
Yep.
That's fair.
Yeah.
If you want to, if you want an air gap, create a gap of air.
That's the, that's the best solution.
Don't plug it in ever.
There you go.
Solution solved.
Oh man.
Okay.
I want a really big USB drive and I will physically stand there and copy it at random intervals.
That still doesn't solve all the problems because if you're taking data from one machine
to that air gaps machine, uh, oh, it could be a time.
It could be time.
So they technically sync up like it's, it's, it's really rough.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It's crazy town.
Crazy town.
Someone asks how I activate float plane in float plane chat.
Are you going to tell them?
Should we say, you should say it's an April fool's joke.
You guys, if I remember, it's pretty funny, but it is pretty, I think it's pretty good.
That's all props to Jayden.
Um, I had, I had no, no, uh, I didn't come up with that.
That was a, that was a creative day project.
Very funny on every float plane video.
And what's, what's really hilarious is that this is actually a useful feature for a float
plane as a service.
So people could have a watermark with their branding on the video.
Uh, but we used it as just like a silly joke.
We just put a watermark to activate the float plane.
It's not on the video.
It's down in the corner.
No.
Oh, nevermind.
It's down in the corner.
I misunderstood.
If I remember correctly, if you click on it, it like goes away too, which is fun.
Okay.
Um, oh, I thought it was on the videos.
No, I'm done.
Nope.
Nope.
I was wondering why I couldn't see it.
Oh yeah.
I'm an idiot.
All right.
Are we, are we doing that though?
Like a watermark thing feature?
I mean, we could.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
And that is how new features are born.
I mean, we're not going to do it for a while.
The backlog is chungus right now.
Yeah.
And there's going to be a lot of lab stuff for you guys to be distracted by.
Right.
It goes away.
If you mouse over it.
Okay.
There you go.
All right, Conrad, we will acknowledge it.
We will acknowledge it.
Our slash place.
There's a war.
There's a war going on, ladies and gentlemen.
It's lttstore.com versus lttstore.com.
I guess that's all I really have to say about that.
How does this even work?
I actually, I was not familiar with this until our social media coordinator told me about
it.
Not sure.
I heard about it back in the day and I was like, that's weird.
And then I ignored it.
And then now it's back and it's, it's still weird.
It's cool.
I mean, do whatever.
But yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
It's like an NHS flag.
Is that national health service?
Yeah.
There's a whole lot of, a lot of things.
So the nineties S sub forums just, you know, they get in here, they, they decorate their,
their shiz.
Um, yeah, there's definitely a Pepe or five.
You know, you know, you know, internet, you use your internet and so if you have any idea
what the crap this is or how to participate, you know, there it is right under the new
slash Linux.
Okay.
I'm actually, it's by the way, new slash Linux.
Okay.
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Let's talk about, I was looking for something big and it was like E3 canceled.
It's not big.
There's some random little things.
This NCIX email thing.
NCIX email thing?
I have it highlighted if you scroll down a bunch.
There's two things on here that I don't know what these are.
I found it.
Remember last WAN Show, I was saying somebody contacted me somewhere and showed me the customer
support email that I sent to them.
I found it.
It was on LinkedIn.
Somebody actually went and found me on LinkedIn to send this to me.
Am I logged into LinkedIn on...
You know what, I'll just use this screenshot that Riley apparently uploaded to Imgur for
me.
What is the easiest...
Hey, there you go.
So this is from Matt who says, hi there, I'm buying most of a new PC from you guys.
I'm using some of my old system to make a new one.
I have a few questions.
Firstly, would you, and then it's truncated.
Here's my email back.
Hi Matt.
I'll try to answer all your questions in order.
This is a very Linus reply.
One, just add this item to your card if you want us to assemble the system and warrant
the parts and labor for one year.
Two, yes, we will send all original packaging and documentation.
Three, it adds approximately one week to your order to have us assemble the system.
You know why I was so good at this job?
I typed really fast.
Man, it drives me crazy when I would watch people who don't type like a hundred plus
words a minute, because I'm like, how do you even function?
I would not be able to get through my day.
Even on mobile, I did a typing test recently, I'm like 70 words a minute on mobile with
my current Swift key correction.
Like I think that's pretty fast for mobile.
I don't know.
I've always...
70 or 80.
I can't remember.
It's like pretty fast.
And then on like a good keyboard that I'm comfortable with, like 115, 120, and I can't
live with less.
I've been considering moving away from tall key caps.
I love the 915.
I know.
It's like, I'm really fast on it.
I hate not having a number pad actually.
I want to get a separate number pad.
I like external number pads and I've known for years that I'm like quite noticeably faster
on low profile key caps.
And I just, it's just, it's not, it's not like the thing, right?
It's not the mechanical keyboard guy thing.
So I've been resisting it this whole time, but at this point it's just like, I hear ya.
I might switch over.
I hear ya.
I've been asked to acknowledge, by the way, the MKBHD logo next to LTT store.com Oh, sweet.
Love it.
Tech, tech, YouTube, rep for a freakin zen, ladies and gentlemen.
Uh, okay.
Where's the, uh, where is it?
I don't want to, okay.
If I'm screen sharing, I don't want to grab the wrong tab here.
Give me a second.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Uh, uh, where'd it go?
Where'd it go?
Where'd it go?
Where'd it go?
Where, where the crap is this?
Oh, man.
I'm dumb.
So I'm going to chat.
So there's 52 words for a minute when they know what they want to type on a keyboard.
You should practice, dude.
Yeah.
You gotta practice.
I'm typing practice.
Uh, three, it adds approximately one week to your order to have us assemble the system
for, yes, the parts you've selected will fit in this case five, actually the Ram speed
that corresponds to a 10 66 front side bus is DDR two five 33.
Anything faster than that is icing on the cake or for overclocking six, you will not
need a DVI to VGA adapter because there will be one included with your video card.
Seven both PCI slots front at eight X and a dual VGA configuration.
This has zero impact on performance.
Lots of data about this on the web.
Don't worry about it.
Eight.
Your caviar's will run just fine.
Nine.
Yeah.
The stock fan is fine for stock speeds.
Other general feedback.
Make sure you get a sound card.
It makes a huge difference.
Even with the lowest end sound card on the lowest end speakers and headphones.
That's old advice.
That is no longer true.
But back then it was, that was a big thing back then.
Two that PSU is kind of loud.
I'd look at the Corsair six 20 watt or the Silverstone Strider series.
And finally, see if you can find the extra money for an Nvidia 8800 GTS three 20 megabyte.
It's a significantly better card.
Enjoy your new system.
Smiley face.
Mine is Sebastian ncix.com great technology selection and service.
That's pretty cool.
Apparently Matt did take my advice and got the 8800 GTS and was very happy he did.
So that was, that was my job.
I was the PC advisor, PC at ncix.com.
Went to me.
Oh, so funny.
And then it was Ivan.
Ivan was the PC advisor after me.
Yeah.
Remember sound card says just Sarah.
Yeah.
It was such a big thing right around that timeframe to USB external amp decks are definitely
a low way to go now.
But back then a sound card was a big improvement and USB amp deck combos really had not taken
off the way that they have now.
All right.
I got logged out of the dock because thanks.
You know what?
Let's take this opportunity to do some rich messages.
Okay, sure.
I'm trying to find, we are still taking applications for the backend and front end position.
It was asked before the show if they should leave those things in the dock.
And we said yes.
And now I can't find them.
Genius.
All right.
Our producer has a mic now he's been waiting this whole time for his moment.
Why don't you Why don't you read us some questions from the merch messages?
For sure.
First one here is from Jamie.
Hi, I love your content.
Thanks to you.
I'm a CS engineer and now currently doing a PhD in computer architecture.
Any predictions about the future of CPUs?
100 plus cores, accelerators, better IPC, or EPC, etc.
Good gravy.
I mean, the biggest prediction, the most confident prediction that I can make about CPUs is that
we are, it's funny how history repeats itself.
In the early days of computing, okay, we didn't have one standard ISA that everyone used.
x86 was not king yet.
Yeah.
And then over time, the competitors, one by one got picked off until it was mostly pretty
much x86 was the only show in town.
There were exceptions.
I mean, Apple had desktop computers that were power like as recently as what the early 2000s
I think was when power got kicked to the curb, right?
But by and large, it all came down to x86.
Well, that's changing now.
Yeah.
ARM.
It's going to be weird.
ARM has experienced a renaissance.
ARM is no longer just for smartwatches and then up and coming is RISC-V. x86 ain't going
to go gentle into that good night though.
It's a really incredible, exciting time.
And I think what we're going to see is we're going to see more diversity.
We're going to see more emulation.
I think it's also going to come back down after that because it's pretty annoying to
have all these different platforms, but I think we need to diversify to modernize and
then yeah.
Exactly.
That would be the most confident prediction that I can make about the CPU space over the
next five to 10 years.
Yeah.
Hit me again.
Stefan asked a question, which I'm going to modify a little bit.
What's your favorite retro tech outside of gaming?
Outside of gaming?
Oh crap.
Yeah.
So we got asked this last week and I was wondering why that made it into the curated questions
outside of gaming.
Man.
Well, I loved my Canon PowerShot A20.
This is so the first digital camera I got was actually a gift and I was like, gee, thank
you.
Thanks.
Because it was basically like a two 40 by three 20 like toy and it was way overpriced.
Like it was like $200.
I was like, oh, please tell me you kept the receipt because spending like another $200
I could have a real actual digital camera and they did keep the receipt and this is
what I bought.
Look at this.
Don't you love sites that have actually been around for 20 years and still have full reviews
up of stuff that has not been a thing for 20 years?
Meet the PowerShot A20.
I got it after the A30 and 40 like the couple of successors had come out, so I got it on
a deal.
It was like three or 400 Canadian dollars.
Okay.
It was 2.1 megapixel, which at the time, guys, you got to remember was the difference between
a toy and a picture you could actually print it four by six and it wouldn't look like hot
garbage.
It had three times optical zoom to compact flash.
I had me some, some 64 megabyte compact flashcards.
I eat compact flash type one.
I had a, what, what was a zoom browser software.
Okay.
So I could, I could see all of my, I could see all my, uh, my, my pictures in this cool
zoom view, like zoom in and out view.
I actually have never seen anything quite like it again.
Here we got some, we got to look at how well it maintains shadow detail.
Okay.
Like that is a usable digital picture.
And at the time that was pretty rare.
Most people did not, smartphones were not a thing.
Camera phones weren't a thing yet.
Most people did not have a digital camera and it was really cool being able to post
pictures online.
That was, that was unusual.
I was actually really common back then to scan your developed film pictures.
Like that was an equally valid approach at that time.
Man.
I can't remember.
I'm trying to think.
A couple of batteries.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I never had a camera.
I never had an iPod.
I didn't have a lot of, if it wasn't for gaming, I didn't have a lot of stuff.
Tech.
And like, okay, Conrad, every single time this question comes up, Conrad's like bicycle.
I think they mean electronics.
Yeah.
Conrad.
Okay.
But like Walkman or Discman?
Not of my own.
Yeah.
Okay.
I was pretty lucky to get a Discman toward the tail end of when those were cool.
Yeah.
Like when mini disc was already kind of a thing, I finally got a portable CD player.
Yeah.
If we have to make it electronics, which is I think the, the spirit of the question, I
think I'd go back to, I don't remember what model it was, but I had this slider phone
in like 2008.
Okay.
And I actually, I loved it.
It was great.
It was very cool.
Like, you know, they have games on it.
I don't really think so.
If it did have like snake and I didn't play it, I didn't game on it a hundred percent.
I played a lot of snake, but carry on.
Yeah.
I didn't game on my phone.
Your electric bike is not retro tech Conrad.
Um, what was I going to say the, uh, I, I always missed, like, you know, when you'd
hang up with an old school phone and you actually clicked it down, it's kind of satisfying.
And sometimes you slammed it down.
Yeah.
With those slider phones, you could, Oh, yeah, okay.
Even flip phones.
There's a bit of a slap to it.
With modern phones.
It's like boop.
Well, you know, Austin's super into the, uh, the Z flip, right?
Oh really?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
He loves it.
I can't get on board with it.
I need to feel like you don't flip that the same way.
Cause you're scared.
What that big screen?
I don't know.
I have a feeling Austin wouldn't be out if he needed to replace his phone, but I don't
want to put words in his words in his mouth, but, uh, all right.
Give us one more Jake Bellavance from AJ.
How do you decide who hosts videos?
Oh, that's a wonderful question.
Uh, because everyone here is on the same team and at the end of the day, we're trying to
optimize everything that we do.
We want a good return for our staff, which means we need to make money.
We want a good return for our sponsors because if they don't make money, then they won't
give us money.
And we need a good return for our viewers.
And when I use the word return, I mean like a return on investment.
So every, every time investment that we make is to get a return usually in all three of
those areas.
Uh, that's why, uh, Intel extreme tech upgrade I think is actually my biggest brain idea
in the entire time that I've been running this company because it's, uh, it's a win
for the viewer.
They love it.
It's a win for the company because we make money.
It's a win for the sponsor because they love it.
It's just like, yeah, Intel.
Thanks Intel.
Rain your products.
This is awesome.
People enjoy it.
It's, it's very positive sentiment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's a win for who was the last one?
We've got the, uh, the person receiving the upgrade and it's a win for our staff.
Yeah.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
It's like four times win.
They're fun to watch too.
I know.
I love them.
They're really fun to shoot.
They're a blast to shoot.
And they actually include a decent amount of technical information and stuff.
But I find, uh, like friends and family that are not technical will comment about those.
It's the same type of thing with like Scrapyard Wars where friends and family that weren't
technical would be like, yeah, I like Scrapyard Wars.
They'll be like, yeah, I like the extreme upgrades.
It's like, okay, cool.
Zetharion asks, how does Intel measure that the upgrade videos are the reason for a purchase?
Um, there's different look up the sales funnel.
Okay.
So your marketing might target different layers of the funnel.
Intel does stuff with us that is very targeted at delivering actual sales and they do stuff
with us that is more about just awareness, sentiment increases, exactly, exactly about
or about engaging with the community or in some cases, this is the same thing.
Sorry to cut you off.
This is the same thing back in the day where I would complain so much when, when conventions
were like a thing still, um, about them taking their booths out of conventions.
It's like, yeah, I understand.
It's not a good, uh, form of measurable ROI, but also it's pretty important for you to
be there.
Yeah.
And so this is, and one thing that's really cool is that, you know, if I was Intel, I
think one of the biggest values that I would see in it is all the different ways that their
tech gets used.
I bet there are executives at Intel that are like, Oh, Oh, that's interesting.
I guarantee you they are based on some information that we've had in the past.
And that's really, that's really cool.
So everybody is winning.
That's why I think it's just like one of the most amazing ideas.
A lot of the time, the ideas that are come up with here are not mine anymore.
Right?
We've got a big team.
We've got a lot of smart people.
We have over a hundred years of YouTuber experience under this roof.
How many people could say that?
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Right?
And so, okay, how do we choose who hosts?
Well, we're all on the same team here.
We're all out to maximize return.
So we know that right now for some of our channels in particular, the host that is going
to perform the best in general is going to be me still.
I mean, it's that I'm the one you guys are most used to for better or for worse.
For some topics, there could be actually an advantage to having someone else do it.
You know, I love it when Anthony hosts a Linux thing, but we had him co-host a Linux
video with James a couple of years ago because we felt he needed a foil who didn't know much
about Linux because otherwise Anthony could kind of get very technical sometimes.
We have to reign him in a little bit, right?
Love you, Anthony.
So a lot of the time we're trying to figure out how we get the best return.
Sometimes it just comes down to scheduling.
Someone else will host because I'm busy or sometimes it's about development.
Sometimes we'll have, there's one of the writers in particular that James and I are really
wanting to get more comfortable hosting things on their own.
And one of the things that I'll go out of my way to do is if I find that person hanging
back when they're kind of on set with me and they're mic'd up, I'll kind of make sure they're
coming into the frame and I'll interact with them more so that they get a little bit more
comfortable hosting bits and pieces and you guys get more used to them.
And then over time, maybe my involvement is less and less.
Maybe it gets to the point where we're 80% done the video and I go, you know what?
I got a meeting.
You close this one out and we kind of do it that way.
There's always...
There's also, I don't know how much this gets factored in, but there's an ownership to it.
If you write this video, seeing it through to the end is satisfying and might make you
care more about future videos, et cetera.
Absolutely.
NZLION says, Alex was really awkward at first, but I really enjoy his enthusiasm on the videos
he fronts now.
Exactly.
Here's the thing, guys.
What we do is not that easy.
If you think it's easy, try and do it.
It's not.
And even with what I consider to be really excellent internal resources that people can
reach out to for help, I wish we spent more time on training, to be honest with you.
We want everyone to be their best.
Even with that, it's hard to do.
I mean, Luke can speak to that.
Your early hosting stuff was awkward.
Mine was awkward.
Yeah.
I didn't really intend to be a host.
It takes time.
I was not...
Yeah.
I was not ready for that.
And it took quite a while to kind of develop my voice and hosting style and whatnot.
And a big part of it too is that, you know what?
I'm not a perfect host.
I kind of yell all the time because sometimes I'm just really enthusiastic or I'm just trying
to project energy and I end up just yelling all the time, right?
But I feel like when you guys build that relationship or that familiarity with us, you're willing
to overlook a lot of those things in a big way.
And in a big way, that's what's happening with all of us.
And that's why I see the introduction of a new host as something that really just has
to take place over an extended period of time.
So there's some strategy to it.
There's some just logistical elements to it.
There's, you know, sometimes there's people's own motivation, right?
There's a lot of reasons.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why don't we do a big topic?
We can talk about Sony-
It's also seven.
Oh, how long have we been streaming?
What the gravy?
We've been live on the WAN Show for an hour and a freaking half.
Okay.
E322 is canceled.
Big surprise says Anthony Young.
Great.
Samsung is the latest company to partner with iFixit to provide official repair tools and
parts.
That's so cool.
Super cool.
It's a program that will give Galaxy customers access to parts, tools, and guides to repair
their own devices.
That's awesome.
The program, as with Microsoft Surface devices and Valve Steam Deck before it, will be done
in partnership with iFixit, and the first phones to have spare parts available are the
S20, S21, and Tab S7 Plus.
iFixit is actively writing fixed guides, and the parts list includes, initially, displays,
back glass, and charge ports, but no mention of batteries initially.
Very interesting.
Kyle Wiens told The Verge that the display assemblies would come with batteries pre-glued
to them because without peel tabs, the only way to get them off normally is with a lot
of isopropyl.
Interesting.
Maybe we will continue to see this improve, we hope.
All right.
That would have to be on the repairability side of things, I think, though.
Apple rolls out an app store policy allowing reader apps to link to their website.
This could be pretty good for Floatplane.
Hopefully.
We hope.
We'll see if they just block it anyways, but yeah, hopefully.
And how to build a PC, the last guide you'll ever need, is delayed to next weekend, but
this time it's for real.
It's finished.
The last writer review is done.
It's only missing a final QC pass, but it will not be possible to do before this weekend
because it will take two hours.
Because it's about that long.
Oh, oh wow.
You must hear this.
Uh, Bell, do, how much of a producer are you actually?
Do you have a way of us, do you have a way of muting us?
I can, yeah.
You can.
Okay.
This is really funny.
Um, there's a song.
There's a song and I would like if you guys have like a Spotify or YouTube music or Apple
music subscription or whatever, uh, you guys can listen along with us, but we're going
to mute it.
I'm going to press play.
We're all going to press play at the same time.
Okay.
This is the MOME boys, M-O-M-E boys.
It's called still beat.
I will let you guys look that up.
You got, you got 30 seconds to get your phone or your web browser open or whatever.
We're going to listen to this and Luke and I are going to listen to it.
We're just going to mute ourselves till we get to the moment and it'll be very clear
what the moment is and then Bell's going to kick our audio back on.
Thank you, Jake.
Uh, I think that's been enough 30 seconds.
This is the MOME boys.
It's called still beat.
M-O-M-E.
Yep.
Okay.
Are you ready?
Three, two, one.
Let's go.
Three, two, one.
Let's go.
three, two, one.
Oh, so I read the lyric ahead of time, so I knew it was coming too.
But I was just like, I didn't know it was happening. It was in the doc. It was in the doc.
Umm...
What?
I don't...
It fit in the song, which is kind of amazing. Like, it actually sort of worked.
Is that peak weird champ or what? Like, what?
Nice, just said peak weird champ. I think that's a new one.
Oh, oh man.
How does it feel to be featured in a rap song?
I mean, I'm glad it wasn't a diss track at least, you know.
So, what is the lyric? She gave me dome? That's a Linus Tech tip?
Let me bring it up.
She gave me brain.
Sorry, sorry. Brain.
That's a Linus Tech tip.
I got the manners. I can't double dip. She gave me brain. That's a Linus Tech tip.
Alright, so...
Hey man.
That's the thing that happened today.
Someone alerted me to this two days ago, and I was saving it so that I could show you on the land show.
I didn't know what it was, so I clicked on the Twitter link that's in the doc, and then the lyrics just right there.
So this isn't even the first one, because you're also, there's a Kanye cover, where someone used an AI of your voice to cover a Kanye West song.
Okay, that's a cover though. This is an actual song by, as far as I can tell, an actual artist that has actually published multiple albums and stuff.
Like, I was listening to this going, what?
Like, doesn't this song actually have, like, yeah, it has a million views.
Wow.
Apparently it's two years old.
Yeah, like, this is not new either.
I had no, how did nobody send this to me until now?
I'm pretty surprised, yeah.
Unbelievable.
Alright.
It's time to acknowledge the April Fools video.
Okay.
The biggest question that I think everyone has been asking, and first of all,
Why there wasn't a cheese sponsor.
First of all, that's one question.
Let me tell you guys, thank you very much for A, supporting us, and B, sharing our deranged sense of humor.
Yeah, we did need a lot of support in order to launch that coin.
We thought it was very funny, but like with any kind of April Fools gag video or whatever, right?
Yeah, you never know if you've kind of gone too far off the rails.
Especially now that YouTube doesn't show dislikes.
That video looks legit AF because it has 93,000 likes.
People can't see that it also has 9,000 dislikes.
I can see that.
So I wanted to thank you guys for your support.
Sharing our sense of humor and watching the video and enjoying it.
And then I also want to thank you for your support because the answer is yes.
Every sponsor actually paid.
That's a very valuable April Fools joke.
I think that might have been the most profitable video that we have ever uploaded.
Which is hilarious because it was just, it was one of those ideas.
We have a doc of April Fools ideas.
It is the holiday that as a company I think we take most seriously from an external point of view.
Like we have a Christmas party every year and stuff like that.
But like we have not missed April Fools for eight years.
Eight years.
And some of the early ones were pretty low effort.
But I think the last five or six have been freaking hilarious.
We have so much fun making them.
Riley is an evil genius.
He was the writer for that.
James worked with him on it as well.
I made some tweaks but you got to give Riley, especially Riley and James just so much credit for it.
So funny.
The number of people that are like, you know I watched this like first thing when I woke up like at breakfast.
It wasn't until the cheese that it finally like flew in that this was not just.
There's people that didn't get it as far as I can tell.
That are legit mad.
That happens every time.
Like I've told a few people but I was talking internally about the two that my team did.
Because we did one on Linusectives.com which is the forum.
Changed it to Comic Sans.
And we did the one on Flow Plane that we talked about earlier where it says like your flow plane is not activated.
It's supposed to look like the Windows logo.
And I told everybody on the team like there is going to be bug reports about this.
Like that's completely fine.
We can move forward.
But like customer support needs to know.
Like we got to give some heads up to whoever is going to be involved with answering that stuff.
And like within minutes of the Comic Sans flipping on.
There was like a full properly written up bug report with like browser version and everything.
And it's like yeah.
Which yeah that's great.
I mean it was a very well written bug report if there was an actual problem.
Yeah thank you.
But yeah.
Sometimes people just forget it's April Fools.
And then they get really confused.
Yeah it's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
There is one exception.
Zach, JerryRigEverything did not pay for the knife feature.
We just thought it was hilarious because we did a short unboxing his like box opener.
And it's got like 3 million views.
It's one of the highest viewed shorts we've ever done as a company.
And it's just me opening a knife.
And his sales of his box opener knife thing went like with that video.
Because you know obviously he's talking to a completely different audience right.
Like we're talking to our audience.
So compared to you can only mention your own stuff to your own audience so many times before it becomes a little less effective right.
So hitting a completely new audience and on a video that got 3 million views it was about nothing other than the knife right.
It's not even a mention embedded in something.
So I just thought that was so funny and I just I loved it.
So they're like yeah let's freaking sponsored by JerryRigEverything.
Here we go boys.
I love it.
I love it.
Anyway.
I did notice that not even in the sponsor shill video did Floatplane get a shout out.
Sponsor shill video?
Yeah.
April Fools.
There's no Floatplane shout out.
There's an LTT store one at the end.
We did a really good shout out for you guys in Million Dollar Unboxing Part 3.
Oh sweet.
And should I tell them?
Not yet.
Let me make sure it's actually going to work.
I'm going to tell them. You'll make it work.
I haven't even been able to talk to the guy that needs to do the stuff.
What if he can't do it?
And he still has to finish the other thing that he's still working on.
You'll make it work eventually.
I won't say when. How about that? Compromise?
Make sure the screwdriver is out before it works.
That won't happen.
Because you'll make it work before then.
Oh boy.
Well are you going to say why?
Because we were going to wait until we could say why.
Because there's like a reason why.
I will say what we are...
Can we just say next week?
Okay.
I am considering opening up pre-orders.
For the screwdriver.
To float plane peeps who I think will be a little more understanding if it does get delayed.
It also depends on whether next week...
I should hear back from engineering about whether our last...
Just...
Our last issue with the ratchet is fully resolved.
So, okay.
Next week might be better timing.
Next week might be better timing.
People seem excited. Oh, this is also full plane.
But I might be desperate.
I might be desperate and I have some reasons that hopefully by next week I will also be able to share with you about why I kind of need the cash right now.
I mean, one of them is that Head of Labs is coming and not cheap.
There's a lot of reasons though.
And there's one big one in particular that could mean that I will just definitely need some cash before I am ready to ship.
People are like, a pre-order doesn't mean we get it any earlier.
Yeah, that's true.
So that's one of the reasons that we're locking it to just float plane.
Because I feel like with you guys I can make a dedicated video that's like, hey, here's what's going on.
You really need to watch this.
I can trust you guys to actually watch it and listen thoroughly and nicely educate each other if someone didn't get the memo.
Whereas if we just open it up broadly, I feel like we could create a bunch of customer support issues and stuff like that.
We're also trying to figure out how to make it so that if you do buy the screwdriver you get a month or two free on float plane or something.
Yeah, some kind of benefit.
But yeah, there's some technical hurdles there and at least one of the people that would need to work on it is currently slammed working on other stuff and is also sick right now.
So he's actually not working on anything.
So yeah, it's not gonna happen right away.
These guys are all like, backpack as well, backpack as well.
Here's a problem with the backpack.
We have almost as many registrations for notifications as our entire production.
Not the first wave, not the first and second wave, all three delivery waves.
I am deeply worried about backpack stock and the reality of it is we are not going to allow people to jump the queue, not even float plane.
So people who have signed up for notifications, I'm less worried about it with screwdriver though in fairness, I don't know if you know these numbers.
I heard them a bit ago but I haven't heard updates from them.
Interest in them has been extremely high.
Nick sends me updates every few days because he's just like, frickin' what?
The last update he sent me is...
Where is it? Come on Nicklight.
We were chatting so much last night that it's a bit of a problem.
Yeah, here we go.
So we're sitting at over 20,000 for backpack, like somewhere between 20 and 25,000.
We have 30,000 backpacks coming, so that's a problem.
And for screwdriver, we're sitting between 35,000 and 40,000.
The only reason I'm not concerned about screwdriver is that we have a lot more inventory and our manufacturing capacity is higher.
Right.
So if we have to ramp, we can ramp. It'll take time, but we can ramp.
So I don't want to let anyone jump the queue.
The best thing to do for the backpack is get on that notification list if you haven't already.
But for screwdriver, I think we could open it up for a float plane to pre-order.
That would help us loosen our cash flow a little bit.
And then we can go from there.
Yeah.
First messages and head on out.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we should.
Yeah, I guess you need to go home at some point or something.
I actually do.
Usually I don't have anything going on Fridays, but I actually do today.
The answer, anonymous.
The backpack fits perfectly under an airplane seat.
Yes, I have stowed it under a standard economy seat.
Anonymous asks, I've seen you wearing a scan watch in the latest LTT short.
I switched one from my Samsung watch and the month long battery has been life changing.
Would love to hear your opinion on it so far.
I haven't even set.
Oh, I actually have my Galaxy watch on this morning because I really wanted to know what time it is.
But then I forgot to turn it on because sometimes the battery dies before the end of the day.
I only even use it as a watch.
So like it's pretty stupid, which is why I thought maybe I'll switch to the scan watch.
But I haven't even set the time on it yet, which is why I put this on this morning.
But then I apparently didn't check the time anyway.
That's where I'm at on that.
Kirsten, or Kirsten, excuse me.
I'm trying to create a new machine that doubles both as a NAS and as a Windows PC as a media machine.
Any recommendations on software?
Is Unraid still the best choice for this?
Unraid is definitely still the easiest choice for that.
That's probably the route that I would go for that.
Bear in mind that your hardware configuration is going to matter a lot.
Like getting a motherboard that properly supports PCIe pass through and all of that is really important.
Joshua says, what is that one game that you've spent an obnoxious amount of time in?
I mean, Luke, Luke found one of mine when he came over for gaming last weekend.
I got owned.
What was it?
NHL 93.
NHL PA 93.
PA 93.
I spent like hundreds of hours on that as a kid.
And it turns out the muscle memory is still there, baby.
I destroyed him playing as the Hartford Whalers against All Stars East.
The boy's a gamer, man.
But okay, to be clear, that was with me playing as Toronto, which was also like a two-rated team.
Or the Senators or something, which were even worse.
They're rated one.
That was the last game where the ratings for the players were absolutely brutal.
There's a player who's rated a one out of a hundred.
And they got a lot more like nice about it later.
So things ended up being kind of actually less realistic.
But that particular player was not realistic.
He's so slow.
He like barely moves.
It's hilarious.
Anyway, so that was me playing as I think Ottawa against All Stars East.
When he said he thought he could beat me the other way around as well.
And I scored like five goals in the first period or something like that.
He's like, okay, you were right.
So he's not actually better than me at the game, but he's better than you at the game.
Yeah, because I beat Luke every time.
It was kind of brutal.
If you look at like Steam stats, mine would be Slay the Spire.
I don't think that's actually true though.
It's mine too.
Yeah.
Slay the Spire will have a clock in the corner, but I'll show you how long it takes you to do a game.
If I actually sit there and play it through, I can fly through them because I've played it a lot.
But I've completed games that have...
My game time is like many days because it's just like minimized in the background.
It doesn't take any system resources.
The sound is muted anyways.
There's so much time, but it's so incredibly unrealistic.
I don't know.
I went on a trip once, and I leave my computer on because I need to be able to remote into it sometimes and stuff.
I came back from the trip and realized that Slay the Spire was left running the whole time.
So I had one game that took me like a week and a half to beat.
My Steam stats are totally messed up from benchmarking.
That makes sense.
Like according to Steam, I've spent like hundreds of hours in like Crysis or something like that.
Probably a lot in like Far Cry 3 and stuff like that.
Stuff like that, exactly.
Yeah.
Wait, holy crap.
We didn't announce the new merch?
Oh, yeah.
Elemental is back, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm wearing it.
Is there any like messaging for it or anything?
There is.
There's a discount code.
Oh, look at that.
Okay, hold on.
I'm going to change my shirt.
I'm going to set screen cap.
Holy crap.
We didn't even...
I also have the variants here.
We didn't even pimp the new merch.
Okay.
There's pink now.
There's never been pink before.
Yeah, there's two new colors that have never before been seen.
There's pink, yellow, purple, and white.
That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
We have so many different colors.
So much room for color activities.
And if you want them all, you can get four for 50 bucks with the code elemental4.
No spacing, and the four is the digit, not F-O-U-R.
It's just the number four.
You can get them all.
Or I think you could just get four of the same color if that's what you really wanted to do.
But yeah.
I'm back, and I actually had someone on the pre-show stream notice that you were wearing an elemental.
And they were like, isn't that that shirt that you guys said was a huge failure and didn't sell?
And why are you wearing it?
And the answer is because people absolutely love elemental when it's four for 50.
Because $13 each for the same quality tees as all of our other shirts, just with the elemental design, is a great freakin' deal.
So every time we run the elemental promo, people love it.
So I actually am super into it, because we don't lose money.
We just don't make money at that price.
So you only live once, right ladies and gentlemen?
Each time that we've done it, this is the third wave now.
We've kept the best-selling colors of the previous wave and introduced two new ones, two new designs.
So Lloyd did up the two new ones.
Guys, go check them out.
We should have lots of stock, because we're ready for you guys to absolutely crush the site on this one.
Elemental shirts, they're back.
Johnny Iron asks, are the elemental shirts printed on the LTT blanks or still the AA shirts?
The answer is American Apparel.
So LTT blanks in black are coming, but we did a pretty conservative first order on them, because you never know, right?
Even if you get really great samples, maybe they're golden samples, maybe the production quality is not great.
So we were pretty conservative.
Now that we've seen them and we've seen the community's reaction, they're coming.
They're absolutely coming, big time, but they're not here yet.
So these are American Apparel.
Cool.
More merch messages?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Oh, we should have Bell read them. Right, right.
So our producer is actually participating in the show. Bell, hit me.
Hello, I'm back.
Good.
Would you ever consider using a game engine like Unity or Unreal as a part of your benchmarking?
I'm an indie dev and thought it might be useful. That's from Noah.
We would, but the issue that we have around that is that it's a very niche use case.
And until recently, we didn't have anyone with any experience in that field. So that's been an obstacle.
Mason asks, who's the most talented gamer you've ever gamed with?
That's interesting because we've done videos with a lot of Twitch streamers.
Yeah, I mean, Cory. Cory and Shroud.
Yeah.
Luke wasn't there for that.
No.
So, okay, how about you?
That nose dude is definitely up there. He's a X Rocket League pro. I don't think he's playing anymore.
Skara. Yeah.
I never actually gamed with ammunition, but I did do a video with her.
Technically, did I even really game with Cory? I guess not. So Shroud then.
You gamed with him?
We did a challenge head to head.
Okay.
Where we tried to snipe each other across the map. I count that.
Yeah, that counts.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be Shroud then.
James asks, do you think Valve might incentivize developers to make more games proton compatible if they offered a less percentage cut of the game and Steam?
Do they support it for an X amount of time after launch?
I think Valve could do that. I think Valve will not do that.
Yeah.
They're not going to kill that golden goose until they are legislatively forced to.
Armin asks about the iPad versus Tab S8, but to be more general, how do you feel about the current Android versus iPad tablet space?
You know what? For me, tablets are just iPads at this point. I haven't given the latest tab a fair shake though.
So I don't want to come out and say that necessarily, but that's where I've been at for a while.
Iron Dog asks, what about Fatality Wendell? I've met Jonathan Wendell, but I have never gamed with him.
Yeah.
I want to make my home smart and I'm having trouble determining the correct ecosystem. We use iOS phones, but everything else is windows.
I also have plans to install cameras on NAS. Do you have a recommended ecosystem?
I know a lot of you don't like having to rely on a certain ecosystem, but do you have a preference if you did?
I couldn't answer this question, which is why I ultimately went home assistant so that I had something to bridge together disparate ecosystems.
That's the only answer I was able to come up with. Sorry.
Yeah. It seems like there's not really an easy one to choose nowadays. I use Google, but I mean, do you trust big tech? Probably not.
Honestly, don't do any home automation. My place is very small, so I don't really see a need to.
Dustin asks, do you guys ever think about showing how to network boot systems from a single image, like in all of your land center PCs?
That's been on our videos to make list for like five or six years. I will do it eventually. It's just, yeah, we really need to do it. We know.
And final question here from Cody. My professor finally played a video from Tech Quickie in class discussing heat assisted magnetic recording.
Any other cool storage tech you can recommend looking up?
Here's some money to make up for her skipping the sponsor read. That's awesome. Any other cool storage tech? Man, that's a good question.
I think there's stuff coming. Yeah. Hammers Hammers kind of cutting edge for magnetic storage anyway.
Yeah. And we got one more merch message from Rachel.
Dedicated sound cards gradually became less and less popular because the onboard audio is good enough for most things.
Do you think something similar could happen to GPUs in the future? If Apple has their way, it will. Yeah.
I mean, even their their studio Mac uses I mean, it's a big onboard GPU, but it's an onboard GPU.
I think that's the future Apple sees whether that arrives for gaming in our lifetimes.
Harder to say. Yeah, the M1 is a great machine.
I use it for editing LMG clips instead of my RTX 2080 Super because it is faster for my rendering.
And it's just just a laptop. That's hilarious. Crazy. Oh, man.
Of course, people are spamming merch messages now. We waited to to promo the new stuff.
I know. Oh, sorry, guys. Zachary says I'm sending this late, so you'll probably not read it.
But will you consider not censoring swearing on Floatplane? I'll consider it.
But I don't think we're going to do it personally. I just find bleeps more comical anyway.
So that's my personal preference. And I am still the God King of Linus Media Group until such time as I am not.
There's also a lot of hosts when they are swearing, they're swearing with the understanding that it is going to be bleeped.
Yes. So it's a little like there's some stuff that hosts wouldn't necessarily want to say if they thought it wasn't for sure.
I mean, a lot of people's mothers watch our videos. That was Riley's mom, by the way, in the April Fools video.
I was trying to figure out because I was like, that's not your mom. That's not your aunt. So who is this?
I was wondering if it was like an actual representative from that popcorn company. Yeah, that's funny.
Oh, man. Merch messages, guys. They're coming in. They're coming in too hot and too heavy.
Whatever happened to the gym bag fan idea? We haven't done a gym bag. We should absolutely do one.
I totally forgot about it, to be perfectly honest with you. Yeah. Matter of time. Matter of time.
OK. OK. We've got to cut it off here because Luke has somewhere to go. Thank you guys very much for tuning into the WAN Show.
We will see you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel. We're going to have to push this Ubiquiti topic.
So remind us next week. We've got to talk about Ubiquiti suing Brian Krebs. It was a big topic for us this week, but we didn't get to it.
Yeah. We didn't talk about Sony taking on Game Pass, even though that was one of our highlighted topics. Maybe we'll talk about it next week.
It's just like actually 730. Yeah, we need to go. Bye.
Bye.
Oh, man. Elementals go nuts. Elementals go nuts.
See, elemental went from zero to let's see if it's already the top selling item today.
I'm curious. Oh, it's not even close. We sold more elementals than we've given away free sticker packs today, which doesn't even make any sense.