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We are mostly set up
Except there are definitely at least two things that I forgot. I didn't log into twitch
To monitor twitch chat, and I only have one computer to do that on so I'm gonna be like
Trying to figure out. Are you browsing the dock on that computer? Yeah, yeah, I'm also using this for the dock
There's like the mount for our pop filter is completely in the way of the keyboard and the touchpad, but it's okay
I can work around that we have a very special special wen show for you guys today
We've got a lot of great topics as usual
What are what are our topics well first Palmer lucky founder of oculus getting sued for stuff?
Talk about that more later, and then Intel is rebuilding itself rebuilding the pillars of its foundation shut up
She is not one of them. Yeah, there's some other good stuff, California wants to ban
Encrypted smartphones and the US military apparently wants to build cyborgs by combining humans with computers
Which the last time I checked is literally the definition of building a cyborg pretty much yes
How that actually works, so we're gonna roll the intro while I figure out a couple of things quietly behind the scenes here and
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And I'm not streaming from the usual computer
So all of this is making everything take much longer than I'd like to want to jump into our first topic here
Uh do you want the first topic to be the first one on the thing? I don't care
Well the first topic is the US military aims to create cyborgs by connecting humans to computers
Which we made a joke about a little bit early on if you're connecting now the joke was
That's literally the definition of building a cyborg so like we get it, bro
Anyways, I haven't read this one at all, but unsurprisingly. It's DARPA. It's DARPA
They do crazy stuff if you look in like if you look at old military movies, and they're like we're trying this like crazy
Revolutionary thing we're gonna do some crazy bullcrap which probably won't work. It was probably DARPA. It's I don't know
They're the ones that have that like crazy
Robotic dog thing that carries stuff around that people kick every single time
It's in videos so they can like it corrects itself. Have you seen that is really cool. It is cool
I'm not saying it's not cool. I mean. It's just I think that's DARPA as well. It's it's pretty
It's like pretty the bomb
Yeah
like
It's pretty sweet because you can like people walk up to it and drop kick it really hard and it
Corrects itself even on ice and then is able to keep walking and it can carry a very large amount of weight
I don't remember what it's called. It's called something, but
Anyways, yeah, so pretty much. They want to develop high bandwidth
And with implantable neural interfaces to open the channel between the human brain and modern electronics
Obviously, I can think of a lot of really beneficial uses for this that are not necessarily
blowing up other dudes
but I
Mean with that like I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna rag on the US military too hard either right now because frankly a lot of stuff that is
Developed by the US military for US military purposes does eventually does eventually end up getting used for something
That's a little bit nicer
Or a form of it will yeah
It's not a new research topic by any stretch of the imagination, but most of the projects have been hampered by slow
limited control
So any SD manager for DARPA says today's brain computer interface systems are like two
Supercomputers trying to talk to each other using an old 300 baud modem, which is actually
Kind of kind of a clever way of clever way of putting that I mean
Computers are fast and the human brain is amazing, but right now the interfaces we have between them
I mean the best we can do at the moment is a keyboard and mouse which if you want to be if you wanted to
Break that down into like data rate
Really really really really really slow like painfully painfully slow
So the aim then is to connect individual neurons and establish much finer control with less noise so that you can speed up the communication
This will require
breakthroughs in the following
neuroscience synthetic biology low-power electronics
Photonics medical device engineering and packaging and all that is according to the agency
Yeah, so it's like I might as well say that I'm planning to build a flying fish
We can figure it out by Friday, which will require advancements in
the aerodynamics side is Friday, you know oxygen fish
interface material
stoatosis and
That's a word. I wish them luck
Basically, it's DARPA. So someone's gonna be like we're gonna do this thing. It's gonna acquire all this crazy crap
They're the right people to say that
Yeah, I suppose I was being honest. That's that's pretty true. Oh, oh, oh, that's basically the beginning of black ops 3
Oh
Okay, some people keep on saying free geek yes, we are here if you guys see that we sent out
We are currently at free geek. Yes. We are like we're right at the receiving bay. Yeah
No, there's like there's like some cool stuff going down here. I'm actually don't we do like pivot?
No, I'm gonna hope this works. Wish me luck. I'm turning on the bison cam
Okay. Yes, the bison cam is here. Why did you turn that on? I turned on the bison cam
Hey, look, it's look. It's Brandon standing on a thing
Hi Brandon Brandon
Good job, Brandon. Oh
There goes everything. Oh, wow. No, we're we're still good. No. No, it's okay. We're still good. We're still good
Stay the course stay the course
Hi Burkle
Hi Dennis, I am hi John. Hi, Taryn. I can't see you guys cuz Dennis is in the way
So, yeah, okay, we destroy everything back we're but I didn't destroy everything only the things you created no
It's funny cuz it's true. So, uh, so there whoa. Whoa. Oh, no. No, we might be okay. We might be okay
Come on, baby. Pull together. Yeah, whoa, okay
Excellent. I'll keep working on this you do you host the show? That's fine. No, no, I won't touch it again. I promise
No, it's it's the this cable shouldn't be wrapped around the way this don't make that face
Worries me so much. Okay, it's supposed to go this way
Everything is awesome. All right. So basically we spent the day at free geek
Volunteering. Well, actually, okay. Technically are people who I pay
Which includes me are we volunteers? Yes, because we're paid to be here company is well that we're not paid by them
Mmm, right the company is volunteering the company's time
So the lioness media group company volunteered the time of almost all of its employees except for Colton and Nick who the business team
Yeah, the business team. Yeah, they're just about money. Yeah, that's right
No, seriously, though Nick was traveling for a family thing and Colton was actually preparing this show
Yeah, so so he kind of had important work to do. So everyone's here. We worked on dismantling computers
We worked on refurbishing computers. We worked on tearing down old stuff. That's not worth dismantling or refurbishing
We didn't get to work on some cool things just honestly because I think we didn't have enough time
But there was like testing RAM wiping hard drives with d-band and then installing free open source stuff on them right now
They're doing Ubuntu hopefully a minute later. It's a laptop area was pretty crazy. This is a very very cool operation
They've got going on here. I think it's fantastic. We've actually got not one but two videos coming up
So we're gonna have one where we show you guys around free geek and the point of that video is not necessarily
Free geek Vancouver free geek Vancouver free geek Vancouver. It's not it's not that it's more just to talk about these kinds of operations
how cool they are and point out that you may have something similar in your area and it
It might be worth it might straight up be like from a dollars and cents like Nick and Colton would understand it
Perspective it might be worth spending some time volunteering because this is something cool. We didn't know about free geek
They will actually give anyone who volunteers here for I think it's 20 24 hours or 48 hours 24 hours
You get either a computer which is estimated value somewhere around $50
Yeah, or a $50 store credit and after you volunteer for I think 12 hours
They give you another 12 hours
Is it another 12 hours or just 12 hours in general?
I don't know you get a 40% discount in the store other than on laptops
Which is a 20% discount and that makes the already really cheap stuff that they sell actually ridiculously dirty. Yeah
Hi, can I help you? Can I help you Taryn? Hi
Not disruptive at all
That boy ain't right anyways
Yeah
so like it's actually pretty sick and one thing that I observed too is if I
Could have came here when I was a kid if I knew that these places existed
I would have been able to accelerate the learning
Yeah of building computers and yes goes into a computer and how to diagnose things so much the experience
That you guys can sorry guys
There's the gains not really that high the issue is that those guys are that loud
So yeah anyway
What was I gonna say right? Yeah? I think that even locate even for me. I learned
Multiple things today. I learned more than one new thing about computers up for me particularly the most enlightening part was
Working on some really old stuff, so I tore apart an old quad sockets Intel Pentium Pro computer
That was so cool. It had like 14 expansion slots. It was like if you guys have seen a mountain mods case
Like those double wide super big tower cases it came in one of those yeah
But like obviously all steel and beige and old and all that kind of stuff like I was like I was tearing this thing apart
I was going holy crap
Modular power supplies um not a new thing at all
Those computers had these
Ginormous like we're talking a 120 millimeter fan on the back doesn't even take up the whole back of a power supply
Ginormous redundant modular power supplies, and I was like what?
So cool, and this thing is so old that it had a y2k
Compliance II sticker on the there was also what my favorite one was the other one that said y2k
Not a risk or like
Yeah
Y2k vulnerable system so guys we have two videos coming up the first one
The video is just a tour of free geek and what they do here and all the different stations
They have should be really fun
And then the second one is just kind of like a moving vlog style look at
what our crew did while we were volunteering here today being hopefully mostly helpful with the exception of Taron and
Should just be kind of kind of a fun little video, so make sure you don't miss it all at one station
I'm not sure. I think they're winding down. I think they're heading out pretty quick anyway, but
All right, let's move on shall. We move on to our next show topic here. Yes. Yes
This is this is kind of this is kind of a this is a thing California wants to ban encrypted smartphones
The idea isn't like oh terrorism
We need to ban the encryption because the terrorists will encrypt the ideas for the bombs no
It's apparently for a human trafficking thing
Did you like my yes? I did I quite liked it
It was apparently for human trafficking so the idea is that a a smartphone manufacturer
That is trying to sell stuff in California would be able to
Would have to set in the ability for a device to be
Decrypted and unlocked by its manufacturer or by its operating system provider so iOS or Android
Yeah, yeah, I mean you know what there's a lot of
the encryption argument is not as simple and
Not as cut-and-dried as a lot of people would make it out to be with that said I cannot get behind
Legislative movements that would make encryption illegal
I do understand the argument that you know the the the purchase and sale of human people something an
Industry that is very much alive and well
you know as much as as much as we'd all love to pretend that you know the
The issue with black slavery in the United States was the end of it
It was not by any stretch of the imagination the end. It was a travesty then it's a travesty now
And it's absolutely disgusting in any in any shape or form
And to look things not good and to look at it and go you know
well
The fact that there's these encrypted
communications and these encrypted devices
That these people are utilizing to circumvent the law and keep these people from from regaining their freedom is
Disgusting but
Again, I really don't think the answer is to outlaw encryption and to put and to put the decryption of said device
In the hands of the manufacturer where quite frankly what is the regulation?
Yeah, basically not and like the the idea of sacrificing Liberty for other things is maybe something
that's a little bit too advanced for our show and we probably shouldn't even be talking about that, but
Yeah, I don't know
So
Yeah, okay
I said I said black the same way that I will say white or brown because it's short
It's a single syllable. It has nothing to do with political correctness or non political correctness
It's out of convenience Samsung has taken to has been taken to court by a Dutch consumer
watchdog over failing to update its phones
There's an official statement from Samsung. It's pretty long. So give me a sec at Samsung
We understand that our success depends on customer or consumers trust in us and the products and services that we provide
That is why we have made a number of commitments in recent months to better inform
consumers about the status of security issues and the measures we are
Taking to address those issues data security is a top priority and we work hard every day to ensure that the devices we sell
And the information contained on those devices is safeguarded. So so what I don't think they like anything
They it's a really long blurb. They said nothing they committed nothing
All they said is data security is a top priority and we work hard every day
We try really hard
Hopefully that's good enough
Well, it isn't
No throwing that out there and also through that whole statistic that we covered on the land show not that long ago
Yeah, Wow Android phones suck for security. Yep. They're like actually the bomb like like they explode in your face
No, they don't they don't explode in your face, but but they figuratively explode in your pants, which is a different
Explosion that's I don't think twitch actually allows security problems. They have security problems
So basically all I have to really say about this article is
Good on you. I would like to see every consumer watchdog
Organization run around and start
Nailing these cell phone companies for not providing updates for their phones because quite frankly
Ethan hon
flagship class devices
we're talking devices with a bomb cost somewhere in the neighborhood of
20 to 40 percent of the price that the consumer is actually paying for it where they're literally
Bringing in hundreds of dollars of profit per device even on flagship devices
it is rare to see an Android smartphone maker support it for longer than about a year if
You are a year to two years if you're lucky past the EOL date and then that's a huge problem because you know
What if you don't buy it immediately on launch? Yeah, that's that's it
Yes
Because a lot of the time it actually the support seems to have more to do with the launch date
Yeah, that is a very good point than to do with the EOL date
Whereas the way and I know I always pointed Apple as and they're not a perfect shining example. In fact, I watched a great just
Fantastic video on YouTube by oh, I wish one second. What's like if you guys are just gonna hang around and chat
Please do it over there. It's probably too loud for the switch chat. I
Know oh, they're working. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. Not everyone was I wasn't addressing every so I watched this great video by a guy who works
In like in an Apple repair like Apple products repair shop
He's got this microscope and he kind of he kind of walks you through it's about an hour-long video
But I sat and watched damn near the whole thing
Which is very unusual for me and he walks you through this you watch like 30% of my Oculus video
Yeah, I will finish it. Um, I don't watch much YouTube. Sorry
Anyway, he does a motherboard repair on a MacBook while spending the entire time
Talking about the way that Apple has made and continues to make difficult the lives of the people who repair and refurbish their products
Oh, I've seen this intentionally. Yeah, it was excellent. Yeah, and he basically goes well
They could provide me with this fantastic
Diagram that tells me exactly what all these components are and what they do and how I can repair them
But they don't they give it to the Apple Store who uses it to do nothing who uses it to just plug into a
Uh-uh a console and say replace
Whereas he's like I could take that information and I could solder a new wire over your precious
Black clean PCB that you don't want a bunch of wires running around on and I could fix that computer and he brought up some
Really interesting points things that I didn't realize like for example, and you can pardon my ignorance here, please
I didn't know that the iPhone 5s if you replace the phone button. All right, that's the phone button the home button
Well, it's kind of the only button if you replace the home button on it touch ID goes away. I
Did not know that the home button is one of the most common things that needs to be repaired on an iPhone
the bloody things break all the time and it's like
Only Apple if they repair your home button
Can keep touch ID functionality working and I was like really
Why?
Because the encryption is on a chip in the phone
There is no reason there is
Nothing that is anything to do with that button that would make it so you couldn't do that
And so okay myself so coming back to my point
The point is not that Apple is some kind of shining example for you know
Being pro consumer and consumer rights and there's a lot of arguments being made that they intentionally slow down their phones
Yeah something I don't necessarily
Actually buy because something a lot of people don't really consider in all of that
Is that there's a lot more to faster phones than just a faster processor and more RAM
there's the fact that storage mobile storage has improved by leaps and
Bounds and baby drives in the new phones. That's right by leaps and bounds over the last few generations
So what do you want Apple to just not build in any new functionality that takes advantage of the new phones?
No, I don't necessarily expect that
But compared to Apple and
The Android ecosystem is just a complete mess with some phones coming out
With a given Android operating system that might not even be the most recent one and then never never ever even being updated
so
Phones like that. Yeah, so I've got a couple of yeah, I've got a couple of more notes on this
So it's the consumment in bond, whatever. Okay, that's I'm sure that's an interval
Yeah, that's sure. That's a Dutch word that I just butchered just now
So it's a nonprofit that looks after the interests of consumers in the Netherlands
So they're taking Samsung to court over failure to provide updates in a timely manner
They reached out to Samsung on December the 2nd in an absence of a proper response. They issued injunctive relief proceedings
Against Samsung so they say that
82% of Samsung phones it checked were not updated within two years of their introduction
Yeah, not surprising
Sometimes a huge part of that
Android ecosystem and probably a huge part of that percentage that we found of unsecured phones
A lot of people that I talked to think that it's an Apple or a galaxy
Actually like like if we were at CES a lot of people were saying
Apple or Samsung? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Do you have a Samsung? Oh, yeah
Yeah, when I was that when I was at a booth for a battery that was heated that would heat up
Yeah, I don't even know if it ended up being in one of our top was like a hand warmer. Yeah
Yeah, like I was like, do you have a Samsung? I was like no
And then I like pull up my phone. He's like, oh you have a Samsung. I'm like, no, it's a Sony
And that's like but it's a Samsung. I'm like and no that's not like oh, you're you're an idiot
Because you don't realize that you know an Android phone doesn't have to be a Samsung
The reality of it is is that's probably all that most normal consumers have really seen
I mean Samsung owns a huge chunk of the Android market
So yeah
Basically what the the Dutch watchdog is asking is for Samsung to support every device it sells for two years
regardless of how old it is
Very very interesting
so that would mean they would have to support starting at the EOL date rather than the introduction date and it would mean that they
can't just provide like
One or two updates on a flagship if you guys are gonna release a model
Then you better actually support it something that could be a big problem for Samsung because we've seen this
They take that, you know, throw the pot of spaghetti at the wall and then yeah figure out which noodles stick and kind of
You know support that those ones approach and that's not gonna fly if you have to actually properly support your devices
You're gonna have to actually oh, I don't know figure out what people want and build that instead of just building
You know, do you remember that weird phone that they did for old people the like the galaxy?
The galaxy it was like the nether custom operating system itself
No, it was it was huge and it was like right around the time they introduced easy mode
Yeah, easy mode and I'm like a 720p screen. I can't remember what I should have said
Yeah, I'm sure that twitch chat is telling me all about it right now, but it was just it was just like hilarious
And they were like, yeah, it's like the smartphone for people who don't see very well
I'm like really how many of those are you gonna sell like like did you did you actually?
Survey like senior citizens and ask them if they want this
Because I'm willing to bet they don't I'm willing to bet they don't want it don't improve your glasses
Yeah, buy a special smartphone the galaxy mega. That's the one. Thank you to can't read your name
It's in lime green and it's on a white background. So yeah, yeah the guy looks like a small
Barely a small tablet. I think it was like a six and a half inch device or something ridiculous like that
Alright
this next one is interesting so
the Apple to widow and
And this isn't exactly how they said it at all
But this is the title I guess Apple to widow want your dead husband's password get a court order
A Canadian widow is locked in a battle with Apple over her dead husband's password for their iPad
She is stated saying where is it?
She just wants she used to play games on it or something
And now she can't which sounds a little weird because she would have probably needed the password for that
Well, yes and no
I mean like again like we take for granted as tech savvy people that you want to figure out how to do things yourself
Not everyone's like that. Some people would just be like hey hubby unlock this for me. I'm gonna do a thing
Or like who knows like maybe like I'm just guessing but I'm just I'm coming up with plausible reasons
Why she might not why she might not care. Maybe she's not that mobile. Maybe he brought it to her every time
Right
Like there's a lot of reasons why you know, then people take care of each other like that's fair
You know, my my wife doesn't really know how to turn on our entertainment system
She says it's complicated which is of course a load of nonsense, but
Okay, it doesn't necessarily work all the time. That is a valid observation that is our entertainment setup
It's funny because the more only a valid observation but like everything that they have it there, but that's a perfect example
You got to remember for some people
unlocking an iPad is about as foreign as
You know firing up our receiver and selecting the right input for the
Technological system. Well Linus has probably changed it seven times in the last four months. So who knows what's going on right now
Am I wrong? Look at the servers. I
Knew he was I knew he was having I knew he was gonna go after the server. You know what? That's it. I quit
No, that's cool. So yourself. I'm not really too sure about this personally
I think there's some issues there like some people will stay together even if their relationship isn't good and there could be private information
on that iPad
So I don't actually really support the idea of just randomly getting access to all of the things for the person that used to be
Your spouse that's actually kind of a little odd in my opinion even in Apple's terms of services Apple T and C's
It says agree that your account is non-transferable and that any rights to your Apple ID or content within your account
Terminate upon your death upon receiving a copy of your death certificate
Your account may be terminated and all content within your account deleted. I actually kind of agree with that
Because while yes
She might have been immobile and her husband may have brought her her things and let her play the games on the tablet
There could also be another story and I know I probably sound like an asshole. I'm saying that. Yep
I agree with that. I came back at just the right moment. Um, you're an asshole Wow
I'm back though. You're so rude. I'm back. I I maybe I maybe I enjoy is that one of any sees professional
LCDs like an older one. Look how thick it is. Sorry. Sorry. I'll let you finish your story of these are like that
Maybe it's just really old
Okay, go ahead. We go with that one. I was mostly done what I was saying was in Apple's T's and C's if you die
Your account is closed
Yeah
Your account isn't given to someone it is closed and I actually totally agree with that while there is the possibility where it's like
Oh, honey, here play games on the iPad. I'm sorry that you are having a not perfect day
It could also be something nefarious. I mean not every couple is doing super great when one of them pass and that's true
Um, but I mean the other thing that I kind of object to here
Is that with Apple devices if they're locked to an Apple ID, you can't even reset it
So we're talking about a physical device that gets bricked by
Yeah, we're talking a physical device that is effectively bricked
I guess I hope I said it I I would think they should be all the day
It should be wiped and Apple should help them reset
She should be able to play the games on the iPad Apple believes in privacy and encryption totally get that totally respect that
but that doesn't mean that hardware should just be rendered worthless by
someone passing away, so yeah, I
Remember freaking storage room basically. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. No, it's it's it's really cool
We have videos coming about what exactly it is we're doing here and they are going to be worthwhile
Speaking of Apple, you know
I was actually gonna say we should burn through our topics and then I was gonna say we should take turns going and finding cool
Stuff to talk about in the in the warehouse here. Yeah, so that was what I thought of while I was standing over there
Cool. Um, so let's uh, let's let's move right along. Thank you. I had a thought that was that that was good
I felt pretty I felt pretty good about they'd be have a lot of topics this week
Yeah
Good job fire not rapid Colton's Colton's actually gotten to the point where he's doing a surprisingly good job of the WAN show document
Well, no, it's surprising given how crappy they were before
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Rather than doing boring paperwork
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What okay, I've always been confused with this you say especially if you're not a numbers person yes
Why is it easier if you're not numbers because it's relative ease if you're a wicked numbers person
The relative ease with which you could whip through this stuff in a spread relatively easy. Yes, not actually it's how much yeah
It doesn't make it easier if you are not a numbers person being a numbers person will still help you use fresh books
It's how much of an improvement you can expect? Yeah. Yeah, I got that. It's just it's not fundamentally
That's what I read it the first time was like
But no, no, no, I yeah, no I get it I get where they're going I get where they're going with that. Yeah
Well, I thought that was your comment. No, no, no. No, that's that's fresh books is pitch
Um, so our our topic people posted in the forum so far our da best Jr. Aries Krieger
Z mule and we've got w. Oh, yeah wkd Paul and we've got mr. Troll
Mr. Troll no, wait. No, we have Z mule again. So apparently Google paid Apple 1
billion
1 billion u.s. Dollars to keep their search bar on the iPhone
holy
Actual crap, hopefully Google can play Firefox more so that Firefox stops telling me that if everyone reading this donated $3
They wouldn't need to ask anymore. Well, no that that deals dead right Firefox is with Yahoo now for the long time
No, I know. Oh, yeah, but like I think you just wish that hadn't been a thing
I think yeah, who isn't paying them as much money probably because everyone's manually switching their search back to Google anyways
so like
The the aggressiveness of Firefox asking for money is pretty intense, right?
like I've actually donated a relatively okay amount of money to Firefox and they're still like
Actually, that's probably why that's probably the reason cuz as soon as I donated to Wikipedia, they harassed me all the time
Yeah, same thing with BC Children's Hospital. Like I get letters all the time. I'm like
a Canadian Red Cross actually
They were really making me mad because I actually have a monthly donation to them
Monthly every month and all of a sudden they were calling me all the time. They were like yo, can you re up?
Can you double up? I'm like, come on
You know, why don't you go keep doing what you were doing going door-to-door like someone came to my door and was like, yo
Do you want to donate to the Canadian Red Cross? I'm like sure so go do more of that find new donors like
Don't harass the people who are already like, yeah
I think what you're doing is great because you're gonna lose my support. I
Think I think there's like there's a nice way to do that kind of stuff. Yeah
Anyway, so Apple apparently received a billion from Google in 2014 to keep the search bar
According to the transcript of the court proceedings from Oracle Corp's lawsuit against Google
So Google has an agreement that gives Apple a percentage of revenue that Google generates through Apple devices at one time
That share was apparently 34%
Oh, we don't know like who got the 34. Yeah
The attorney for Google tried to get the judge to strike the mention from the record which did not work obviously
John is here. Is that just crazy?
If someone had an agreement where there was like we're sharing
34% of this profit thing and someone was like, can you just strike that from the agreement in court? That's just never gonna work, right?
Yeah, okay John John assures us that would have been very unlikely
Yeah, he's our he's our resident used to know a thing or two about law before he became a Canadian
Yeah disclaimer not licensed to practice law in Canada, that's that's or California, oh really
Oh, we were talking about California who cares? Okay, you do I know because that's yeah
We love you John
Intel is rebuilding itself on three pillars and the PC is
apparently
Not one of them. So there are three pillars are like Internet of Things server and memory
So yeah, see ya
so their CEO Brian Krasanich said that the PC business provides a foundation of intellectual property and a source of cash flow
But it is not the sole driver of our growth. I actually read this article
Okay, this is one where Colton's notes could have been a little bit better because it was something along the lines of
The PC is here. I'm gonna get the debt. Okay, so already those three businesses
generated nearly 40% of Intel's revenue and
60% of their operating profits
very very
Interesting. So that's how Intel continues to grow lately in spite of the ever-shrinking demand for desktop PCs now
I suspect there's some chicken-and-egg going on here where if Intel was building dramatically faster computers that enabled dramatically
Different user experiences there might be more demand for them. But Intel also is not in control of the
The pace of the rest of the industry so Intel can build as many 8-core CPUs as it wants
But if no one is building software that actually leverages all those threads, then they're basically
Just more core sitting in your computer consuming power and doing pretty much not a whole lot of anything which is a thing
Which I totally get
AMD's news is
They lost a lot of money, but like not as much but actually more depending on how you want to compare it. Yeah
It is just kind of a miracle to me that they
It is just kind of a miracle to me that they... Enabling today, inspiring tomorrow, losing today, losing money today, losing money tomorrow
Hopefully not losing money anymore three days after tomorrow
That's that's the goal. So so you guys can check out the numbers if you want as usual
We're gonna have all that stuff linked. But the long the long and the short of it is that
On a revenue of just shy of 4 billion they were down 28% year-over-year
Revenue-wise primarily due to lower client processor sales
They had a gross margin of 27% down 6 percentage points year-over-year and due to lower unit volumes
This is due to lower unit volumes and product mix and they had a net loss of
660 million on that 4 billion dollars of revenue
Um, which is yeah, okay. Yep. Hopefully their processors and new GPUs do well in the future
Yeah, I think that we're all hoping for their upcoming GPUs to absolutely rock the house
That would be really good and for their Zen processors to rock even more houses even harder
Yeah, I agree with that statement too because of exactly what Intel just did
So that article was posted by Zmule the next one we have up here also Zmule. Zmule is like on fire this week
Yeah, that's what he sounds like yeah, all right you hit this one he types that fast
Okay, so this is actually not that interesting. Sorry Zmule
It is in and Colton and Colton it is in rapid fire on the thing
Uh, the oculus is founder. So Palmer lucky is being sued for stuff. Apparently he worked for some company in
2011 who had him produce some stuff and then now maybe that stuff is part of an oculus or maybe it's not
We don't know all we know at all. Is that a judge said like, okay, this can become something in court
Uh, Lucky calls the lawsuit a brazen attempt to secure for themselves a stake in oculus VR's recent multi-billion dollar acquisition by Facebook
So basically doesn't seem to think a whole lot of it
Yep, we've got another rapid-fire topic wow Zmule again
Zmule! I am Zmule. I carry all the news
things
So here the original article is from the J deck website. These are the
presumably super
Cool at a party engineers who develop memory standards actually to be completely honest if I was at a party and there was a J
Deck engineer. I would definitely probably hang out with them the entire time. So I was actually okay
I'm gonna I'm gonna tangent putting that out there and I know you've done that kind of stuff before too
Yep, I was at an OCZ party where like some famous person like some rapper or something
I can't remember like actually a big deal was performing and I managed to find a
guy who worked on the original SEDA specification
for then he like worked at Marvell like during those years and like
He like talked my ear off about SEDA the entire time
we like found a quiet corner and I was just like so like tell me about this and tell me about that and like
You know, what makes it better than PETA? How do we make it faster? How do we keep making it faster?
What's the future of drive interfaces and and like like the?
Whatever Taren it was cool
So yes. Yes as much as I really is wearing a shirt that says talk nerdy to me
Yeah and tries to mock you. Yeah, some guy talking nerdy to you. Yeah, so
Anyway, J deck publishes G to dr5x graphics memory standard
So they're targeting data rates in the 10 to 14 gigabit per second range, which would be about a 2x increase over
Gddr5 now to be clear. This is not a replacement for HBM or HBM 2
Which is what you're gonna see on high-end graphics cards like AMD's current Fiji cards
But rather a replacement for the mid-range cards where you can't necessarily
afford the additional cost of cutting-edge HBM memory nor would you necessarily see a benefit from it because it's no secret that
Modern high-end cards are doing just fine with Gddr5
so
It usually takes a few generations for a mid-range or a low-end card to catch up to the performance of an old high-end card
So in theory we'd be good with slower memory for quite some time. Well, this is a way to address that
All right, what else we got here, I think I'm just gonna kind of you want to do the thing
Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Why don't want to why don't you go first while I do a little mini news thing here
So this is supposed to buy that Norwegian guy. The original article here is WCCF tech
and
Let me just pull up my screen capture here
the GTX
970 now the most popular graphics card on the steam survey
Which I actually had a number of people in the forum thread about this say was not interesting and not remarkable
That is incredibly interesting and incredibly remarkable
I don't remember the last time actually
No
I think probably the last time we would have seen a current gen card like high-end card as a
top card on the steam survey would have been in the
8800 GT days and what you guys need to also realize is the 8800 GT was I think it was like
It was two ninety nine or it or something to forty nine
I think it launched then it got jacked up to two ninety nine and then for like superclock or whatever
It was up to like three forty nine
Don't don't quote me on the exact numbers
But it was a very very reasonable price and delivered pretty much the same performance as the 8800
GTX that had come before it so that was an extremely disruptive card the GTX 970
Not that disruptive compared to Nvidia's own lineup, so the fact that it has sold so incredibly well
No, go ahead. I'm gonna run and get one the fact that it has sold so incredibly well over time really points to
What a success Nvidia has been in creating and marketing that card alright
Well you talk about what you found. I'm gonna go find something cool
so I don't even know like
What entirely this is it has little arm things
Which seem to be able to operate so this one is like a clampy arm the other one is also a clampy arm
But it has like you could put something in it, and it would sit there
I don't know how it operate like the arm can move it can reach out and grab things and do whatever
But realistically like there's a huge thing in the back. There's DCN. I'm assuming the head turns
Internally within the dome the dome doesn't turn itself, but it's it's a tape player
So right now. There is currently
Depeche Mode tape construction time again by Depeche Mode, so it's a tape player and a robot I
Don't I don't know I don't I don't know it's not for sale. It's up in the store. That's not for sale
This is what was absolutely right beside it so I'm gonna take this away. You're up all right
Okay, so I found two things first of all this awesome coca-cola phone
That's not really that big of a deal putting replacement plates on phones was was a thing no
No, what I'm into right here. Is this Toshiba T 1200. Yes my friends
Mechanical keyboard yeah, that's right
LCD display with brightness brightness knob
Wheel right here
latching fold-down display
LCD contrast wheel over here on the left as well as a B and dis and reset whatever the devil all that is
We've got our 12 volt input our power on and off switch as well as there's a hard drive on and off switch
Which I think is fantastic the battery release button here. It's got a ooh printer port external floppy disk drive port
a composite port a keypad keypad port ooh
RGB I think did they used to call VGA oh look at that that three and a half inch floppy drive with
Three and a half inch expansion bay below it this thing is about as freaking
vintage as it gets made by the Toshiba
Corporation and I think John's got something John sub in here man go for it
So I just found what appears to be okay, you can you guys see me great
I think this is the original sound blaster. It has oh hi Luke
Lucas back so it has a joystick port okay
It has an old it has an old-school joystick port and some sort of dial
It has some sort of like weird dial thing sticking out
I guess that's for volume and something called the talking parrot
I'm get this mischievous parrot mimics your speech talks back
Passes outrageous remark and screams when you take a look so it kind of sounds like the predecessor to Bonzi buddy except
It won't install like horrible malware on your system that the system that you can't get rid of
Yeah system requirements dos 2.0 or higher coming to a
Um coming to an EGB or excuse me an EGA based graphic system near you
So yeah, you need 512 kilobytes of RAM
You know hold on there Luke make sure you have at least 512 kilobytes of RAM who has
512 kilobytes of RAM I don't I heard that's all you'll ever need no
No, it was like 64 you never said that oh, okay, okay, then today. I learned they have giant stacks
I only bought brought part of the giant stacks. I don't even know if these are written yet probably not
But they have giant stacks of all the Linux you could need every bun to and I believe mint you can come here and get
A free disk and then one thing that I like is gonna be kind of hard to show
Yeah, you can you you can see it
Show them the Pentium Pro show them the Pentium Pro, and they can't hear you remember cuz the mics over here
Check out that Pentium Pro. Yeah, boy. Yeah, boy
Okay
Okay, okay. I've got I've got two I cheated. I brought two things. Oh you brought two things, too
Okay, okay mine right here this my friends is the 3d mouse
3d mouse it has it's made by a4 tech since 1987 feel the noiseless comfort
It's actually got like a thing through the package so you can spin the scroll wheel check this out DPI
520 which is 30% faster than 400 DPI
Wow amazing
Enjoy quiet scrolling without distracting noises 3d mouse
Wow also
No it does not
Do Z it just does X and Y?
Here show them the close-up of the package the package is so amazing
Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah, uh shift it down a little bit. It's got a reflection
That uh the other way there you go. Okay check that out DPI
520 is 30% faster than 400 DPI my friends yes my friends Wow indeed
Okay, okay check this out check this out
This is okay. You're my Vanna white right now. I think this is higher there you go
This is before the AOL the AOL CD
Became a thing okay. That is an AOL three and a half inch floppy diskette
Yes, my friends. That is a great value right there. I can let that go for as little as
$1499.95 yes that can be done in seven easy payments of
$200
Going once going twice gone my sanity is gone. Thank you. Thank you for that. Do you find something John get in there all right?
Go
So I also this is another fantastic thing I found you guys remember this it's one of those old slot style
Pentium twos and Thank You Taryn and if I recall correctly
I think this is the only the only ever the only slot style on consumer CPU the Intel ever produced and
Hey Linus um correct me if I'm wrong on this
But wasn't this basically just a Pentium 3 without some like instruction set extension
Yeah
The performance isn't too far off from a Pentium 3
But it comes in this really cool slot that has a shiny thing on it, and they just don't make them like that anymore
unfortunately the Pentium 2
Oh, okay, I'm talking for Luke
Yeah, you hold it higher up
Yeah, right there. That's a whole bunch of RAM
Two gigabytes minimum capacity ECC memory you're just gonna have to talk louder. I'll do it
alright, so that is a bucket of two gig sticks of
DDR2 ECC RAM server RAM right there a lot of those look like fully buffered DIMMs if
If they have those heatsinks on them yes my friends that is a very very small
Fraction of the random RAM that they have around here. They got everything check this out new
sealed
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition
Brand new sealed Adobe Photoshop CS4
What else you got over there oh that is a doozy of a that is a doozy of a keyboard this my friends
Commodore 64 keyboard it's got the green sticker on it so that means it works
I mean look at this this has keys that run stop
I got are you kidding me control port one control port two this is this is pre my days like my family had a
Commodore, but that was when I was at an age where I would not I would not remember such a thing
I mean Commodore they counted like Microsoft f1 f3 f5 f7
It's like Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox one. It's it did no one knows how to count in the computer industry
It's absolutely amazing
So I think I think we're gonna get kicked out of here pretty soon
So we're not gonna
We're not gonna carry on too much longer
But if Luke and John find one more thing each we can we can show you guys some other cool relics here
But don't miss oh wow oh
Wow Taryn brought yeah, okay? Well. This is worth waiting around for guys
Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's good. They can see it. Okay, so this is this was actually donated as is except for probably the free geek sticker
That's sitting in there. It's FedEx shipping boxes that someone made it rotated around. Yeah, that's someone made into a computer case
That's still holding together. It was properly water-cooled at one point
It's been slightly taken apart, so it's not exactly functional this moment
But it could work if you just can hook some things up and work on it
It's been slightly taken apart, so it's not exactly functional this moment, but it could work if you just can hook some things up and probably replace the fluid
So yeah people can get creative. I don't know
That's pretty crazy. So someone ran this as their computer. Is it a fire hazard? Maybe to a certain degree, but uh
It worked
It worked
It did work. This is another one of those like
actually not for sale things
And if Taryn dropped it it would be very bad
Okay, so thank you guys very much all
8,600 of you for tuning in to the land show
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Just kind of being here chilling with these guys and spending some time
Some labor time we have also committed to make a donation to help them to keep their operation going you know keep the lights on
Businesses even if they're not-for-profit businesses have real expenses that they actually legitimately have to pay
I don't remember how much money. I said do you know I said a thousand dollars
We have not done it yet. We won't be doing it yet
We're waiting for some accounting stuff on their side that they actually need to sort out
But we're also committing a thousand dollar donation to free geek because we think what they're doing is absolutely fantastic
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Totally different bat place. I think we're we're speaking of bats. We're batting about you know
20 200 batting 200 I remember how that works
We're batting 200 for actually broadcasting the WAN show together from the normal location
So twice that no that means 20%
For the last five shows we've only done 500 is like perfect
About half is even 50-50
Yeah
So basically they moved to the decimal over two places for no apparent reason. Yeah, that's really weird. Yeah, so that's weird
Go baseball. Why'd you do that America? All right. Thanks for tuning in guys
No, after no after party today. Unfortunately, we have to pack up and go no
No after party today we have to pack up and go so you go ahead and I will be doing a thing after party thing
On my twitch channel, but not for like a while because we're in Vancouver really far away from home. Yeah. Yeah
Don't wait for it
Oh, it's the desktop back. Oh, that's easy. Oh, whoops. I should turn off the show