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Hey and welcome to the show. This is the land show the land show that is or the NAH the NAH show. Nah, nah
News and analysis weekly news analysis weekly baby. It actually totally works. Nah
It kind of does that's a W that wins yeah. Yeah. All right land show welcome to it. We're doing some news stuff
There's the GPP is no longer a thing news
Which I'm sure every single person in the tech community is gonna be talking about a lot
Boom because there's not a ton else going on
So, you know, we'll take whatever we can feels like a win, too
But who actually knows we're gonna get into that also t-mobile and sprint are trying to
Try to to become one again hug each other a little bit more than they did in the past, you know
They tried it before. Yeah, they're trying again. Yeah, also DRAM price-fixing. We've all kind of known
It's been kind of ridiculous for a while. It's weird how expensive this stuff is
It's weird when you're pricing on a computer and then you're like, whoa
That was unexpected. Anyways, I'm looking at the analytics lately. It's bad. It's bad. Yeah that plus Facebook stuff
Yeah, all that more on the NAH show
On the NAH show. I'm chomping at the bit here
Who thought of that clench thing, I don't know
Oh
Originally we were gonna have a new one of these like every week and then I think we've made one
Yeah, obviously that plan which ones you there fresh books
But one of the blue sweater because I used to always wear that same sweater the shorter one of the same shirt looks
Thank you PIA yeah, I appreciate your stuff
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Ginger Luke, oh, that would be great. Didn't you be it?
Oh, we're gonna start off the show with a folding and buoyant community. Shout out. We have one of those things on the forum
Yeah, I didn't even know what it was. Oh, I had no idea. I got hurt. I've heard of distributed
Oh, I thought you just didn't know what our team was
I had no idea what the folding thing was
I got a message from one of the members of the our folding team who's like give us a shout out and I was like
What are you what is folding slash boink? What and then I was checking it out. I was like, oh, this is amazing
I want to do this. I think I might set it up
yeah, so we have a community on the forum dedicated to folding and boink folding and but boink is more like
A point can be a lot of things. I know what that is. It's Friday, baby
Folding at home is a distributed computing project for disease research that simulates protein folding
Which is why it's called folding at home because you're folding
Proteins digitally at home
And computational drug design and other types of molecular dynamics
it's this really cool thing and boink can do stuff similar to that or
Sort of not and this kind of research takes a lot of computing power
So that's why it's distributed so you can help out and actually chip away at cancer research or Alzheimer's research just by using your spare
compute cycles on your piece of crap PC that's in your storage room like I plan to do or
You know those mining machines
You could you could repurpose those to helping cancer if you wanted to or you could not
You know, whatever whatever folds your boat. Haha. Oh
Are there foldable boats sensible chuckles?
Yeah, you played a boat and then you hold it into the shape of a protein
Anyways moving on to like a second these guys. All right these people on the folding team
Yes, you can do this at any point right like you can turn on you can yeah, but they also do these like like bursts
Yeah, do these weeks where they all try really hard to devote as much of their computing power as they can to do it
And sometimes it'll be like a competition kind of set up where there's like leaderboards for how different teams are doing
Yeah, so they'll they'll be like like who can make the most of this week or whatever and we're like in the top 20
All right, we do we do pretty good and I've contributed nothing to this
Let's get it. Let's get it
Speaking of getting something no longer. Are you going to get Nvidia GPP?
No, I thought you guys take like get screwed by GPP. Oh, you might you might still get screwed by GPP
Okay, so just to catch up the people who don't know the yeah Nvidia g-force
Partner program was it was basically like if you're a partner of Nvidia like you're eight. Oh, no this guy
What are your thoughts quick for you?
You're behind the mic
Congratulations are in order we did we did win but again back to what it actually is
Yeah
Yeah, have you read there there
Yeah, anyways, he doesn't get to talk about it. We do so continue. Hahaha. Let's say you are aces and
You're you sign up for the Nvidia
GPP
If if you wanted to sell an Nvidia graphics card
With your special like ROG branding because you're aces. Yeah, you couldn't sell any other graphics cards with that branding
I don't think that the it stipulates that like hey your existing branding ROG. You've got to use that for Nvidia
I think it's up to a Zeus to decide what branding they use in theory. They could have been like, you know what India?
We're gonna use our awesome ROG branding on the radian cards and we're gonna make new branding for you
That would so from a company's perspective though. That would generally be bad
Because the majority of the market is Nvidia purchasers exactly want to use your stronger brand for that because you'll make more money exactly
So they're totally cutting out
And this mind share really matters right because what they're forcing and what did actually occur when this program rolled out
You've got to make new
Product lines new you've got a fork your branding basically, and so they made Aries
They this comes at a considerable expense by the way. Oh, yeah, they've got a branding marketing. They've got to design it. They've got a
iterate on that then they've got to actually print boxes get these boxes on the shelves and
Presumably at this point these companies have already done all of that. So now that the partner program is cancelled
Everybody's wondering if Aries is gonna continue to be a thing or if they're just gonna switch back
Because on the one hand they have the sunk cost on the other hand that brand means nothing to anybody yet
Yeah, so it's better to lean on your existing brand. What we don't know is if Nvidia has
Remunerated these companies like let's say uses sunk billion or millions on rebranding or at least hundreds of thousands is Nvidia
Like did the lawyers set up anything for this particular case where Nvidia's gonna be okay?
So you guys probably didn't hear that what happened
Was it that teleprompter glass I would go help them
Are you all right
Dennis is dead everyone
So a glass fell and shattered into a lot of pieces as we were able to hear from here
I guess yeah, you guys definitely can hear that. We just heard shattering and then Dennis going. Oh, yeah. It was very audible. Yeah
Anyways, sorry, we're gonna continue here. But yeah, it's it's unclear at this time whether brands are gonna survive
Not not as in like whether a Suess will survive
But it's unclear whether or not Aries will survive whether or not Nvidia will be compensating
These brands for the work that they did related to GPP
I
in the like who knows how accurate it was
Leaks that we got I didn't see any provisions for that because I don't think Nvidia was expecting to have to pull back out
But I guess we didn't see the other side of the agreement either
Well, it would have been what those particular companies lawyers came up with exactly
Wouldn't be in the original TOS
Another interesting thing was how they framed the their cancellation
So we learned about it through a blog post that Nvidia and they did not they didn't like Facebook it
They didn't go on an apology tour. They didn't own what they didn't know instead. They're like they framed it thusly, you know
There's all these rumors and conjecture and myths mistruths around about the Nvidia GPP
So rather than spending our energy
battling any of the battling misinformation
We're just gonna cancel the program so we can focus on what's important like building the new
Technology like as if the GPP and all the backlash was like draining their resources as if all the technical people at Nvidia were quick
Working on marketing. Yeah, like the engineers were like, I can't focus cuz everyone hates us
This is so brutal
Yeah, it's that that part is so brutal because a lot of the reason why this is all come to light was because of people
I don't remember his name right now, but from the the guy from hard OCP
that that like pushed all this kind of stuff and the rest of the media not just us at all we we probably had a
Relatively small involvement because I think we just talked about it during when there's other creators that have made dedicated videos and all this kind
Of stuff when when all the NOS show
Yeah, a lot of confusion around the name, but there's been a lot
It's the NOS show with Radion Graphics. Any time we talk about AMD graphics cards, that's on the NOS show.
Each each each week we have half an hour for WAN half an hour for NOS. Sorry
yeah, so it's just
All this stuff was brought to light. There was basically nothing from Nvidia
Explaining what was going on. They're complaining to be getting all the rumors conjecture mistruths
Go far beyond its intent. Well, maybe better explain its intent
I know there was one post talking about it, but it was so whimsical and didn't properly go through what's actually happened
Yes, total BS. They keep focusing on the fact that this is all about
Transparency for the consumer so the consumer knows what they're buying
They know that they're getting an Nvidia card and that's the best thing you can get and they want to make sure and it's very
Obvious and transparent on the packaging that that's what they're getting if that's what it's about
Then why even rely on these other brands like ROG?
Why don't you just stipulate that they have a big fat green banner that says in video on it if it's really just about
And they kind of do like I've never I've heard a lot of
complaints from new system builders
I've helped a lot of people get into building their computers and one of my big things when I would help friends or family or
Whoever build a computer was always that I'll be there as like the guiding hand, but I want them to do it
Yeah, I want them to pick the parts
I would want them to build the computer but I can help them with anything and answer whatever questions etc. Etc eating snacks. Yeah
Getting free pop because they would supply supplies for the is there gonna be chips and pop that I'm in
There were my hands will be too crummy to help you
There's one buddy of mine that I've built two computers for and every time we do he brings a case of vanilla coke
Mmm, I like this deal. It's worked out quite well
but it's
I've never had a single person
Be like, I don't understand. I'm buying ROG. Why is it a
AMD thing or whatever like I've never had that confusion. Everyone seems to get it
So all this hubbub over that seems unlikely
It feels like they just wanted to muscle them out of the good brands. Yeah, exactly
They know that their market position is such that they're gonna be the ones awarded the ROG the the incumbent existing branding and that
AMD is gonna be the ones suffering under the new branding. So nice try Nvidia
Yeah, some Evan 33
Is is spamming contrast in the chat so much that I'm super surprised that he's not
Banned from the chat by the bot yet
I don't know if he's talking about contrast in terms of like what this picture look looks like or if he's talking about
Between the boxes but in my experience, it's pretty it's this probably isn't even what he's talking about
But in my experience, it's pretty easy to differentiate between which one is an Nvidia card, which one is an AMD card
He's definitely talking about the visuals of this
Yeah, this video feed but we don't care. Yeah, man. We're gonna make it about graphics cards. It's intentional dude
This is the new style. Yeah low or high contrast or whatever the opposite of whatever you're complaining about
We don't understand it but whatever
So yeah, I'm not like and I know that a lot of people at Nvidia and I'm sure they're paying attention to a lot
Of the press stuff around this so they might see this section of the show at some point in time guys
You got to figure out your public communication. You make great graphics cards
You have the market share the giant market share that no you're very happy about that
But people are kind of pissed off and I know it's very easy for the community
I know you guys know this it's very easy for the community to go after
The company that has the lion's market share the lion's share of the market. It's it's very easy for that to happen
That's definitely a non insignificant amount of what's going on, but especially around GPP. The communication was bad
You have to understand that communication was bad and this didn't help with everyone needing to dive in and dig and glean
Fight for every little tiny bit of information that they could and for you to come back at it by saying oh, yeah
Yeah, there's so many rumors conjecture mistruths are going around everywhere
clarify better
That's on you man. And I know like it got leaked or whatever and that sucks as a company
I completely understand that that's super frustrating. But at that point in time
Throwing at other people for that is not gonna help you to try to win everyone else onto your side
You need to be open to the community and try to explain what was going on in a not
So whimsical and were just fairies on the breeze kind of way because that's obviously not what's going on
Give me your opinion on this part
A lot of people think that them canceling the program doesn't really amount to much because the damage is already done
There's some there's some costs. There's these new brands
Well, there could be back like back alley or what do you call them back alley deals back end deals back and back end
the they we know these deals could continue to exist right now just
Not publicly even name it something else. Whatever. Yeah
Because a lot of these big players they sign these agreements so they might just carry forward with them
Yeah, we'll have to we'll have to see how it goes
Um, we'll have to pay close attention to Aries I guess specifically see what a Seuss does with that
maybe see how they Seuss communicates around it I just
Yeah
This line of communication was very in my opinion sassy
Mm-hmm. Seriously, though it was sassy and it was just it was not what are you talking about?
They're blog posts. Yeah
Yeah, and it's it's like yes the community wanted
GBP to be pulled but I think even more than that at the core
I think people wanted to know what the heck was going on
And I don't think anyone got that because now it's just gone and we still don't even really know
What it like actually was what the actual rules were we're being told that everything that we knew was rumors conjecture mistruths
So we didn't know anything then. So what's the truth? We still don't know they're saying like oh
It was just to like make things more clear
Okay
But we need more like we have a someone showing us like basically a contract in very clear terms
And then you're being like everyone's just supposed to be happy
Okay, and this doesn't work by the way that you haven't that in no way makes it more clear for everybody
That makes it a way way way harder to buy a graphics card if I rock up and there's like, okay
There's gaming. There's auras. There's ROG
There's all that times two
For each different one. That's way harder. That's way harder
To figure out the tier of the graphics card, I guess
This is none of those words like really mean anything. No, yeah
It'd be way better if they if I think it'd be better a better business case for them just to say
Hey a giant banner that says Nvidia
Gtx 1070. Well, okay, that's people want right? Let's uh, I'm gonna get to the page first, but let's go to
Amazon.com
No
Let's go to new egg. Ooh, I
I
Switched because of like purchase history and related items
Did you get a veiny Vic don't worry about it boy, let's go to Luke's screen what is that now squeal
Okay in video search I
Guess you don't even see boxes Well, I mean the name already has and like everything has a g-force in it g-force
Gtx the branding is there so that's like the text equivalent of the like put the banner
That's right at the beginning of all of them
Well, that's another point as as to why this GPP didn't even need to exist because it's already it's already in the name. I
Don't buy this whole transparency angle
Yeah, I don't buy it. I wish they would just own it. Hey, we tried to make a lot of money
We tried to make more money. We got caught it wasn't you could even be like we thought this was a good idea
Clearly everyone didn't
We're gonna bit. Yeah, I would buy that more do that. Yeah, you should have shut down all your stores for an afternoon
It has some kind of training for all your employees
Man okay. Anyways, I think we've beat this topic down and left it in a ditch so we can move on
To the t-mobile slash sprint merger. So, you know more about this than I do, but they've tried to do this before
I know nothing. Uh, I know was it the
F TC that blocked it in the past. Yeah, this is all FTC's
FTC stuff so I believe the FTC was like we think there's room for four players. So no
Yes, that's correct. So that would have been under the Obama administration and they thought okay
There's the market in the US could support four major
Cellular provider services or companies so they thought more is better. It's more competition
So we're not gonna let you guys merge that was then things have changed
Not only is it just a change of administration and they think that the Trump administration would be more favorable to this merger
I a lot of it has to do with 5g actually and the US and the and the administration is very serious about 5g
yeah, remember that it was the Trump like I
Don't know we want to say you know unilaterally, but he did that little thing. We should have one more
little signature thingy to say that Broadcom and Qualcomm shouldn't merge right and there's like
rationale for that it was like
Qualcomm is instrumental in advancing 5g and
there's a big global race to be the country that pioneers 5g the most right now and
China and South Korea are winning and the US wants to win because you get lots of benefits from pioneering the technology and the standards
lots of job creation IP
it was really good for the US to have developed 4g and they want to keep that going and
there I think that
with this
The new merge company will have a greater ability to pioneer 5g
It's it's I think there's an opportunity for t-mobile and sprint to make a really cool name when they merge
Mobile sprint that's a little motion here, but they're just gonna be called t-mobile still missed up
Okay missed opportunity. So they're merging but essentially t-mobile is taking over spring
Is that kind of the deal? I don't they're just being called t-mobile
I don't think the name like I don't necessarily think just because the name is still t-mobile that indicates that they're the big winners
But I don't know maybe I think public eye
It might come across that way even if it's not actually that way because everyone's calling it t-mobile now
Well, I
Don't know enough about it. I can't well, they're not they've just said that they're committed to merging
They plan to merge but it's not up to them. They still have to the the courts still need to approve this
Yeah, and that's gonna take a couple months I think
Even though I'm not from the States I generally like t-mobile. I've liked how they've done a lot of their campaigns
I like the kind of moves that they've done in the market over the last while so
Sounds cool. Here's a theoretical question
Every good capitalist likes competition, right? Yeah. My question is does more players mean
More competition not necessarily right now. You've got four
T-mobile and Sprint are numbers three and four. They're way smaller. No AT&T and Verizon
Should they merge they'll be about the same size. So do you do you think they actually have more of an ability?
Is there more competition when there's three equally sized sized players?
Then I kind of think probably maybe because I think where the market probably needs more competition is with the big guys
so I would rather there be a fight between three big giants and
Please no less than three
Because we have enough of that problem in our in our own space with AMD and Intel
and AMD and Nvidia
But so please no less than three
But I like the idea of taking three and four and making them an actual proper real
Yeah
Exactly
against the other two big guys
That seems like a good idea to me and even if you can make a fourth as long as all
For the same kind of size when you have four and you have two kind of smaller ones and two kind of bigger ones
There is good competition there because there's competition for the smaller markets and competition for the bigger markets
But I don't feel like T-Mobile and Sprint are gonna abandon
Their places sure, so I think it'll be okay. They'll have more funds to move up market though. Yeah
speaking of collusion because
three-player oligopolies suck
DRAM price-fixing. Yeah, good call
So the law firm Haggins Berman
Has filed a class-action lawsuit against Samsung Micron and Hynix
I love how every law firm is so obviously a law firm just by the name. I
Wish that was one person's full name
Awesome, too. There's a lot of people with two first names, but not enough with two last names
So according to the firm's investigation the three DRAM manufacturers
Conspired to limit the supply of DRAM chips between 2016 and 2017 with the purpose of course of inflating their prices
And we've all seen that happen DRAM saw a 47% price increase during 2017
The largest jump ever in the last 30 years and probably ever because before 30 years ago. Did they even have DRAM?
They probably had A, B and C RAM but like oh, yeah, that's ancient stuff
So the complaint has been put forward on behalf of anyone who in the US
purchased
Something containing DRAM from one of these three companies from July 1st 2016 through February 1st 2018
The suit claims that after a global decline in the price of RAM chips
The three companies began in June of 2016 to deliberately limit their output of DRAM storage chips
But did they have to if they're okay if they're colluding and they want the prices to go up and set it down
Did they have to do it so hard? I mean like it's kind of like
They kind of were overkill. It's pretty suspicious now. It's so obvious. That's yeah, you think you try to be slightly subtle
Let's just get them to climb gradually, but depending on the details. No, man. I want like
400 new cars
Well, okay, it's cranking up a lot
They're obviously gonna try to get away with it and maybe what it takes to get away with it is to be like we literally
don't have the capacity to make more so then they had to
Not build a factory and then they don't have this factory or they have the a lot of has to do with their process notes
It's up to you
So because they're not scaling how they should and they're like publicly saying to each other that they're not gonna go for scale
They're gonna go for price per item and whatnot
Well, I hope they get found guilty
That'd be interesting. I would be pretty world to be more interesting to me
I'm kind of fun if you if you could charge someone guilty for like
your
Jerks at running a company. Oh
Yeah, the other like you clearly have the money to build another factory. There's clearly the market to build another factory
You're not doing it just because you want to be whatever and charge an insane amount of money per chip
So you guys suck. Here's a fine
Yeah
This is kind of where capitalism breaks downwards like yeah theory if they're doing that then there should be room for them for a new
Entrant in the market but the barriers to entry are so damn so insanely high the investment so large and the talent pool is
Just not big enough that
They own it. It's an oligopoly. I wouldn't be surprised if these guys
Were caught it like actually guilty because from 1998 to 2002 a high next Samsung and micron
We're among a group of vendors who would ultimately end up paying a settlement to end complaints that they conspired to rig the price of
DRAM chips, so it's not even the first time this happened
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It's funny little joke. Don't worry about it too much. You use that for April Fools, maybe
That'll be funny like redirecting the whole thing
Warranty void stickers. We have an update. That's exciting. I've been excited by this for a little while
I'm gonna I think I was on here last time we talked about it like two or three weeks ago that
We talked about it together and at the time
One quick thing someone asked is there a full plane free trial there will be there isn't yet
Mmm, we're currently in like still like an alpha II kind of stage. So once we properly release there will be the day
There's a free trial is the day. I use it for the first time. That's not true. I'm just
On there today. I was like you have to
So, okay per u.s
Law no warranty or product sold for over five bucks can put any restrictions on repairs who does the repairing you can't have a sticker
on your product that says if you break this sticker or your point your your buoyancy is Ward that happened last time we
One of us said your buoyancy is Ward last time anyway, it's still true today your buoyancy will be Ward if
You use a third-party repair service
at least that's what they say but that's actually illegal in the US and what we
Learned last time when the news broke is that is it the FTC they issued? Yes, it is
They issued letters to six big companies
We didn't know who the companies were but they they were like look guys, you know, this has been illegal since the 70s
We're about to crack the whip crack down on it. Yeah, and guess what now we know who those companies were
Hit me with them Luke Sony Microsoft Nintendo
Wow
What a competition it's like all the console people it's interesting also, I don't understand the $5 thing
I
Why are you allowed to put restrictions on repairs for things under $5?
That's so weird. I think it's um
It's probably a bundle like this one sentence that were
Claws that were focused on in the context of this article is a part of a larger bundle and to attribute that whole bundle
To items that are cheaper than five bucks would just be too much work and it would probably like inhibit people from starting
Cheapy little businesses. Okay. Sure. That's my speculation. Why not? It's just such a weird like what's even under $5?
That you would take to a repair shop. They're just better grease that puppy up. It just doesn't spin anymore
A quarter turns all I get I just need some WD-40, but I don't want to spray it on myself
Don't worry about it. Yeah, a little hook
I got very specific. That's about it for that story. Honestly, the companies have 30 days to revise there's been
Online you can see a kind of a more generic version of the letter
But each company did receive a customized tailored letter
Specifically outlining the prop the offending product. So in the case of Microsoft, it was the Xbox
consoles that had these
These stickers on them and then not just it's not just about repairs. It also says something about third-party
Like accessories as well. Oh interesting. Yes, it's it's
Microsoft's actually in a pretty good spot for that because while their surface notebooks have like notoriously been
Terrifying to try to work on because like the terracotta and like all this other kind of stuff the Xbox one X
X you're talking about you're talking we said terracotta you're talking with that like, yeah
Sorry, is it called something terracotta is like that's a lady. That's all right. Yeah. Okay. No, what is that called?
I don't know. I think it's Tara something. It has a weird name. What is it?
Alcatraz, there we go. Alcatraz. Yeah. Thank you. Now the people are cars
Can stop so you ever been listening a podcast while you're driving it just like
Yeah, yeah, so is that is that is that what the like the soldiers are made out of the like huge amount of
Terracotta army. Yeah. Ah, yeah. Yes. So that's where I played too much sieve apparently. Um
Anyways, where am I going with this? The Xbox one X is actually kind of wonderfully easy to
Take apart and put back together
Terracotta, yeah, there it is. It's a type of earthenware. Hmm. Yeah, every day
You don't wear your wet wear your earthenware. Yeah
No, you're who knows where
Alright, that's where the show is going. So yeah, this this is good. I'm very happy about this
We'll have to see what actually comes of it
Hopefully it means that my switch is still good to go even though I have turned it into a purple thing instead of a black
Thing, so that's cool. Um moving on your thing
What thing this topic? No. Oh, oh
So on this sort of actually Microsoft was an expert witness now don't read that part
What it was like click on the click on the forum link that came to us from Gemini J. Oh one
This is a tree. Oh
Man, this is sure. This is long and I can't share it on my screen cuz I'm logged into the thing. Oh,
Let's just give it. Are you a fan of this guy?
Are you fan not particularly do you want to talk with that we can I'm not I've read it but I
Don't really know the guy
Yeah, how about this? You know what? We're gonna go let's cruise right into face. Sure. Yes to Facebook ish things today
Number
One at f8, which is their developer conference, which is happening right around now
They announced that they plan to create a clear history tool. So
This feature will enable you to see the websites and apps that send Facebook information when you use them
It'll enable you to delete this information from your account and turn off Facebook's ability to store that information
Associated with your account going forward
They will still provide apps and websites with aggregated analytics. That's anonymized
Anonymized no, no minimum and this tool won't be launching for a few months. They gotta build it and test it and apparently they're
They're sitting down having town hall meetings with security experts around the u.s. And all that kind of stuff
Do you think this would be a cool tool that you would use? Do you even use Facebook? Uh,
I have one the only things I use I'm gonna say once I have once I've fully deleted my account like four times
Oh, I also didn't create. Did you make a Facebook status before each deletion be like, hey guys, I'm getting on Facebook
No, I just disappeared into the ether without telling anybody every single time
I didn't even create my original Facebook account one of my friends apparently I guess thank you
Thank You Jesse, by the way a real name
I
Created a Facebook account under my name and then gave me the login and was like start using this and I was like, okay
Hook everything up to it. Yeah, your data is gone. Goodbye
Yeah, so I've never been a huge fan of it
Now I use it for the messenger portion because basically everyone's on there
So if you need to contact someone it's usually what an Android thing to do. Yeah, basically
Yeah, I do the same and then I use groups a little bit
I've got two groups on there that I'm fairly active in. Hmm one for sharing music and
One for talking about nerdy things with my high school friends. You care about music. Yeah. Yeah
Talk about this later. Okay. Yeah, I can just invite you to the group
World he's above us. He can't yeah, I can't you can't join the music sharing group. So yeah, I don't know that's cool
there's been other stuff that's come out of
Of w8 f8 f8 makes way more sense
eight
Wow, that's fantastic
But apparently they're gonna do a dating app. I don't know if I don't think we talked about that last week
Oh, I haven't heard that Facebook dating app. Yeah, let me let me just google this live on the show
dating app
interesting first met no
Facebook dating looks a lot like hinge Facebook is taking on tinder with new dating features
I wonder if they will cut off tinder from their login with face. I know they could kind of doubt it
They couldn't yeah, that was Facebook as an integral part of tinder. Yeah
So yeah new dating app amid all of the crazy privacy stuff
they are directly planning on making a dating app and it's interesting because they're
They've straight-up called out that it will not be designed around hookups at all
That's not for you to decide. Yeah, I know but they're they're pushing it to not be that way
It will not ever connect you with a friend a
Facebook friend. Yes
Okay, so part of the idea is that it pushes you to new people
That's cool. And it will like keep even the idea that you're on it away from your friends. Oh interesting
So it's supposed to be private away from your friends that you're on this thing. Give us your data and we'll give you a date
Yeah, yeah and a big part of it is this section they're talking about conversation starters
so they'll they'll try to have like events that are happening around you and they'll try to use groups and things that you're both interested in to
Try to come up with something for you guys to do. Mmm. That is hopefully interesting. Yeah, that's cool
one problem with the way particularly tinder works is like
You know, the first stage of tinder is like hey you think I'm hot and I think you're hot
So we got that so like boom that mystery solved, but then now you're just in an empty chat
You're like, what do we talk about? Yeah, where do you start?
So that actually might this actually might help with that a lot. I've been on the dating scene in a long time
But I just having something that's like hey, we're both interested in this thing
But without having to go through the monotony of like reading through a basically resume. Yeah giant profile
Yeah, we need something in the middle here. Yeah, that's a that's an interesting idea. It's just kind of
Funny that they're bringing this up at the time while they're having all these privacy issues
But at the same time despite all the privacy issues, basically, no one's leaving Facebook. Mm-hmm. So
It's probably fine related to that
Because of the pirate privacy things Facebook is revisiting
The possibility of having a subscription model not it would be an option. It's an option. Okay, okay
Just want to say this loud and clear Facebook's not gonna be like hey want to keep your Facebook account
Five bucks a month 50 bucks a month. Yeah
Oh ad free. Okay, it would be an ad free subscription model
And I think it means you're gonna be giving up a lot less data, too
So they've looked into this in the past and then internally basically everyone's like I don't think that's gonna work
So they didn't bother doing it
but now they think the climate has changed enough that enough people who are who are considering leaving Facebook because of
Data and ads might say well, it's worth it to me just to stay
If they get rid of ads and they don't scrape I could be interested in this. See I don't know I might even use Facebook more
really, this is really interesting to me because
One of the questions here is like would would the spur more people to join?
Hell no in my opinion. No, not a chance. I don't think all it would do is retain existing customers
Yeah, I don't think there was gonna be anyone who's like whoa wit its subscription model now. I'm in I think
Technically there will technically be some of those people but I think it'll be such an insignificant amount that it just won't matter
It'll be the same number of people who like want to pay with gold doubloons instead of u.s. Dollars
Yeah, like it's gonna be
Really small amount of people but I think it will definitely increase
Again, a very small percentage of people but probably a bigger one than we were just talking about people like me to use it a little
bit more
I don't like ads but I also don't like running ad blocker because it's kind of you know
We do a thing on the internet and when you do things on the internet ad blocker has potential of taking away all of your
Money, it doesn't for us obviously
But I do feel like I don't know
I don't want to get into the ad blocker thing because the entire internet just gets super pissed if you ever talk about it
But anyways, I don't run an ad blocker. So I prefer do I I prefer to you can do whatever you want
I'm not sure you do whatever you want unless you want to be cool
But and people are like, yeah, no, I actually haven't gotten around to it. I'm just lazy. I don't know
But yeah, I would rather pay a website and not have to see ads. I liked that about twitch you could get twitch turbo
Now just everyone's Amazon Prime. I would have called it turbo
Turbo then you could have a little like mascot for it
It's a turbo
That's actually pretty cute the twerking robot. Okay, not cute. That's just Jibo
No, where's this one show going? This is the non show. It's a parallel universe
Okay, so
Two topics left which one do you like? Let's do both. We have why not both 12 minutes. They're both kind of
HP printer firmware breaches Australian consumer laws. I have no idea what's going on. Take it away
Okay
So
I'll join you in a moment. I think this began
Yeah in the fall of 2016 HP sold a bunch of printers or updated a bunch of existing printers in Australia
without telling consumers that
their software in these in these printers or in the firmware that is gonna limit you from using third-party ink cartridges and
That's illegal in Australia
So no now they're in trouble and get this
HP is offering consumers who are prevented from using a non HP cartridge compensation of
$50 if you more than 2,000 customers suffered under this under the software and if they each get their $50
That's gonna cost HP. Hold on to your tits
$100,000
HP is like wait how much? Okay, great. It's like that scene in awesome powers where he's like a million dollars
They all start laughing. Yeah, fine
Yeah, I was worth a shot
No problem, they probably got way more sales of ink than that $100,000
Yeah, that's that's really not a lot
especially because
Not all the consumers are gonna even claim this know the laziness will prevail in a lot of these kind of situations
It's like it's like the idea behind like why are there still mail-in rebates?
Why isn't it just automatically taken off at the till effort? You're probably not gonna mail it in heck
No, especially now God even in the even when snail mail was just called mail. I wouldn't do that. Yeah
Yeah, and most people wouldn't so the the discount actually becomes when you when you do the math on your end
It's not $10 off every single item that you sell it's $10 off like actually a pretty small portion
but you will probably send sell more because you can
Post the price as being lower because you're like it's lowered because of mail-in rebate, but then no one does it
Anyways, stupid stuff but genius. Yeah, so it's not even gonna be close to a hundred thousand
How much isn't it a new like proprietary HP ink cartridge? I don't know a lot of bucks. Let's
I think it really depends on
I
Wish I had the model number of the printer here
2536
That's the thing. It really depends on what printer it is because like this HP 61 thing and
Like this one, but then like the laser jet ones more but they said ink cartridge, so it's not that okay. I
Don't know. It really depends on what cartridge it is. Well, all I'm gonna say is even if
Like half the people affected just bought ink then they've already paid for the whole scandal
So in Australia about 60 bucks a cartridge apparently 60 Australian. Yeah
That'll be like I think it's stronger than Canadian peso, but like not as strong as the US
Someone just gave me the price per pallet. That's
That's cool. But no exactly not particularly helpful at the moment
One more topic, yeah, okay, let's move on
mining it was hard and
Now it's gonna be harder new bit main ASIC miners or easier to approach it
Yeah, that's harder for the average row. Yeah easier to actually get done harder for your average
Bit main is able to mine Equihash
And it's it smashes GPU performance we've got crypto mining hardware
For $2,000. It can perform as well as
15 1080 TI GPUs at a mere
300 watts
Equihash is the algorithm used by Z cash Zen cash Bitcoin gold Bitcoin Z Bitcoin private Komodo Z classic and I believe
potentially even more
So what this means is that
It's so much more efficient to use this
What they call an ASIC an application specific integrated circuit a specialized computer
it's so much more efficient to use that than it is to use a regular off-the-shelf GPU that
It brings a concern about how decentralized and free
the
Cryptocurrency is now because in the utopian world that we enthusiasts dream about
Anyone can can support the network anyone can be a node in the network because you can just use an off-the-shelf GPU that you probably
Have your computer anyway
Once there's a specialized machine that's sold by one company
then there's
Then it's centralized basically it's not and the thing is with these it's like you've got a fed then like bit main ASIC miners and
Stuff it's like you're not gonna get one
they sell out so fast and their supply is not high enough that a huge percentage of it is people reselling it or
Kind of more like back-end deals. What is that time? Is that temporary?
By the time it becomes easy enough for you to buy one
They'll be close enough to the next one that you probably shouldn't
But that's sort of been the pattern for a long time. I mean for the industry in the future won't there be
In the future won't there be competition there could be two or three people producing these things
We'll see. I think a lot of companies are kind of scared about jumping in because it's such an incredibly volatile market. Mm-hmm
That's why it's far future
Yeah, it has to stabilize first. We'll see. Yeah, it'll be interesting and
Like Bitcoin is slightly going back up sort of maybe so, I don't know who knows. We'll see
I'm into the ether price
That's what I look at every day. Here we go
Damn, it's almost at 800 us again. Yes. It's almost at half of what it was. What is what does Jake feel about all this?
Yeah
Yeah
No one can hear you
Get in the show get in the show. So what he's saying is there is other companies and like yeah
I know we've we've talked about them on on land show before
And but there's a lot of like what he's saying is by the time these things hit market even bit main has been mining on
Them themselves for a long time. So like I don't know the mining space is so it's it's very
It's very messy. You have to be like really into it to
To probably stay on top of the thing is though like this algorithm
Equihash was meant to there was like designed to prevent centralization of the mining process and
There's been other cryptocurrencies that this happened to and then after these a six come out they just like alter the algorithm so that it
kind of
Nullifies the lead that those a six give it themselves. Yeah
so maybe people right now people don't know if Equihash will do the same thing and then GPUs will still be relevant or
But either way we won't know until the future and speaking of the future
That's where you'll have to be to see the next one show or to see any more of the land show because we're gonna leave
Yes, yeah
There's a parallel universe. There's a many worlds hypothesis here where there's a Wancho and a nacho. Yeah
Yeah, well, so if you want to see either one of those come back here in seven days minus one hour
And you'll be good to go. Well, probably not even the minus one hour. We were on time today. Yeah
seven days minus like 20 minutes
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