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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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Hey guys, Linus is getting ketchup. So we're just going to start the show while that happens.
There was a massive DDoS that happened in the last couple days. I think basically just today.
But anyways, it brought down Amazon, Twitter, Spotify, a bunch of different kind of huge stuff.
I couldn't tweet all day. That was actually kind of frustrating because like I'm trying to tweet super badass pictures of Compensator 2.
And it's like, nope, nope, nope, failed to send tweet. Would you like to retry? Yes, doesn't do anything.
Nope. P&G. GG. Nope.
I know available on all models, cars, including the Model 3 once that comes out, which is pretty nuts.
Unveiled. Speaking of unveiled, speaking of revealing, Nintendo confused us all with the announcement of the Nintendo Switch,
which I am super stoked on on chatting about later because I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to agree with you or I will agree with you,
but you're going to buy it anyway. And Razer purchased THX. I still don't.
So so we'll be back. I mean, next up next, they're going to say they like Taylor Swift's on their board of directors.
In other news, like Luke is dying. So, yeah, if he's not here, when we come back from the intro, you'll know what happened.
That happened last time, too.
That's going to be the problem, too, because when I laugh, that makes it happen.
And last time I showed that myself.
Now you're here.
All right, well, cable mod.
I fixed it.
OK, you got to do the eating contest. Yeah, there you go. Linus Tech Tips eating contest.
So I guess we're going to start with Nintendo Switch so I can just talk about this.
We don't need Linus's input on this.
So it's like it's a handheld.
That's also a console that you can put the controllers on or you can take the controllers off and you can use the controllers independently for two people or just one person.
And you can maybe do like local network play wirelessly, maybe.
And there's Skyrim and there's the new Zelda game and there's a new Mario game.
And like there was tons of stuff that was more or less announced in this video, but not like spelled out on screen, which was really interesting.
Like the new Mario game. They showed it, but they weren't like, hey, new Mario game.
Which is kind of interesting. So people weren't really paying attention.
They just go, oh, yeah, Mario. He's everywhere. They put him on everything. But no, it's a new Mario game. Crazy.
It's super weird. But that said, it's not exactly like a like a groundbreaking.
No, you know, revelatory. But it would really let me hold on.
No, no, no. You got to stop. There's a new Nintendo console and there's going to be a new Mario game for it.
No, that's it. Enough internet.
Yeah, it's kind of a weird announcement. I'm back. That was it.
We had heard for a while that there was going to be some kind of like console and handheld thing that was in the rumors for a long time.
Even so, I didn't really expect this because the dock doesn't really look like it does anything other than applying direct power and video pass through.
I think I don't think there's any compute happening there.
I don't think there's anything else happening there, especially because when he when they go to pick it up and they go to switch or whatever you want to say it,
when they pick it up out of the console, if you already have the controller bits on it,
which you can just leave the controller sides on the console if you'd like, because this switch bit right here,
this left controller and this right controller can come right off and then they rail in on the sides of this bit right in the middle of the console box.
So then that becomes kind of like the tablet-y part of the Wii U, which if it works the same way is actually pretty awesome.
But then like, what? It's a weird... against it in every way, but it's weird. It's very weird.
So another announcement that came in parallel that for whatever reason isn't in our notes, I'm actually not sure why that is,
but another announcement that came in parallel was from Nvidia where they said they're going to be the ones providing hardware for the Nintendo Switch.
So this is interesting for a couple of reasons.
And like, OK, so number one is that it means Nintendo's portable is actually going to have like programmable,
a programmable GPU in it for the first time ever instead of some like custom random thing that they sort of stapled together out of like some arm cores and whatever else.
They kind of found on, you know, Banggood.com.
If you want to like dive more into that, go look at like the technical diagrams for the Wii U.
Some weird stuff. It's part of the reason why people have such a hard time emulating those kind of games is just because it's just weird.
It's running on super weird hardware sometimes.
So the other thing this means is that we could be looking at.
Kind of a tablet like form factor, and the whole concept seems kind of like like, oh, man, how do I describe this?
Like somewhere between the Nvidia Shield tablet, which is really confusingly named because now they have Nvidia Shield Android TV
and the Nvidia Shield tablet is actually like discontinued.
They have the somewhere between the Nvidia Shield tablet and that weird.
What was that thing called? What? I reviewed it.
I don't remember the Razer Edge Pro. This stupid thing. What?
So it had this game pad. Did I work here when we made this doc thing?
I remember a long time ago. Oh, OK. I remember this.
There you go. That thing. OK. Yeah, I know this. So it's kind of like this thing, which was it was like a it was like a 940 M or something.
It even says it's a tablet. It's a mobile console. Yeah.
Tech specs, USB ports. Thank you for that, Razer.
Wow. Oh, OK. Because it's the because I'm looking at the game pad controller.
OK, fine, fine, fine, fine. So it added more I.O. and blah, blah, blah.
OK, what was it? A 640 MLE with optimist technology.
So this is a while back until Core i7 dual core with hyper threading doesn't even say what generation core i7 it was.
So, OK, apparently the audio quality is fine, but it is apparently cutting out sometimes.
Have it from a relatively reliable source. OK, I'm not entirely sure how to solve that.
Yeah, I don't really know what to do because I'm not moving anything like I'm not touching it. We still got a Twitch Prime sub, though.
Hell, yeah. Terrible audio. Still getting subs. Wow. That's what's up.
We appreciate you. So it's kind of like like that concept. But what I said about that at the time was cool concept.
Way too heavy, like totally impractical from a battery life and a weight perspective.
Then we got the Nvidia Shield tablet, which didn't really take off. There was that battery recall.
Yeah, that hurt. That hurt that product in a big way. And then it just kind of disappeared.
And if we look back at the timing for when it disappeared,
I do wonder if what we're going to discover is that might have been around the time that Nvidia locked in a deal pretty close with Nintendo.
Looking at like console creation life, life ranges and like how long there's been rumors about the annex coming out.
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like six months later that rumors about the annex started kind of starting.
I mean, I'm just trying to I'm trying to figure out like when did Nvidia Shield tablet YouTube?
Let's find out when our video went up and see if it makes sense.
So actually, no, I don't think that's long enough because the tablet K one unboxing. No, wait.
OK. Initial reviews went up in August 2014.
So if Nintendo saw that, that was probably enough time for them to at least pivot the development of the Nintendo.
And that's because you've got to remember to Nintendo is developing their own first party triple-A titles for it.
And they've got to make sure that those are going to run on whatever it is that they end up with.
Yeah. So a couple of interesting couple more interesting things here.
This is the first Nvidia GPU win design win in a console since PlayStation three.
And actually one of the only two. Now that I think about it,
AMD has been the GPU powering pretty much everything for the last little bit.
Xbox One S, Xbox One hits on that, too, more like not making much.
So my understanding is that it's not like amazingly lucrative,
like it was in the Xbox Xbox One, PlayStation three generation.
Yeah, but that it's like it's not really original.
No, Xbox One. No, it's original. I think Xbox original. They ended up doing pretty well.
Wait, no, Xbox original. Wasn't that Nvidia as well?
GPU Xbox in original Xbox. I thought it was like equivalent to like a Pentium three, like 733 megahertz and then it says
Finding stuff on this is going to be kind of annoying.
Yeah, the GPU was co-developed by Microsoft and Nvidia.
So there you go. There was that one as well. Sort of co-developed.
Kind of. Wow. Hey, I got the CPU right. 733 megahertz Intel Pentium three copper mine.
Hell yeah. Go Linus. He remembers a thing that no one asked him about.
I actually liked that console. I liked the like terrible logo.
And remember the controllers that were way too big for anyone except for like my dad.
OK, cool. Let's talk about controllers for a minute here. Let's go back.
Oh, they're horrible. Let's go back to a picture of the switch.
OK, so this I think will be fine. I honestly think when you have them railed on the side of the screen, it will be fine.
Because my favorite controller to use with the Wii U is the big tablet with the screen in the middle.
When I first saw it, I was like, I'm going to hate this.
And then it got to the point where if I was using anything else, it was a worse experience.
And my only like proper compromise, in my opinion, was a pro controller if I wanted to play something.
How much of that is the second screen experience and how much of it is just the more comfortable spacing of your elbows?
It's comfortable.
So like give me a percentage.
Probably almost entirely comfort of the elbows because I wouldn't really look at the second screen.
I meant like for playing Mario Kart. Yeah.
Like I used to play Mario Kart all the time. I used to stream it and stuff.
I would use that controller even though I was never looking down.
Because you could look down to see, I think, the mini map, or you could look on the main screen for a way better view of seeing the mini map and still be able to see where the heck you're going.
So yeah, I didn't really care about the second screen.
Yeah, second screen for gaming I'm really not that sold on.
It was kind of cool as a fifth player aspect in the Mario platformers.
You could play like a godlike kind of character and put down little platforms and stuff that only lasted for certain periods of time to like just kind of have some fun.
There's so many Nintendo things. There's like one first party title and then...
Yep, yep.
Yay!
So it actually kind of feels like they're trying to get away from that.
Which is, I think it was Ubi. I'm not entirely sure but it could be Ubisoft.
Said not that long ago like, oh we think Nintendo is going in the right direction with their new console blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
So I think that has a lot to do with the less things that I think are kind of cool but a little bit gimmicky deals.
Now look at what I just noticed. Oh no, never mind. I thought this plus symbol was a plane.
And I was like, whoa it has data. But no, that's just a little plus symbol.
So, I mean I guess that's all fine and good for people like you whose forearms are about as big as my biceps.
But are you concerned at all about controller weight? If you have to basically have the gaming console...
I mean, okay, okay.
I don't really think so.
Do you think the second screen makes a comeback?
So can you plug this, are you expected to wirelessly transmit to your TV?
No, no, no, no, no, not at all.
So second screen is dead, do you think?
From what they've showed us in this trailer? Yeah.
They didn't use it as a second screen at all. Not even once.
What happened was, is this a screenshot?
This is just a screenshot.
If you go to a different part of the video, he docks it actually with these controller arms still on it.
That's the way that I would use it because I'm going to lose these things, just to be honest.
So I'd rather it stayed on the screen so that I don't lose it.
And then the box that you can put these on and use them as a controller.
So let's go back to that picture.
Oops. Oh, no, not that.
Not that one. Let's go back to the other one. Okay, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, this looks right. That thing looks horrible.
It is really ugly. Oh, man.
I don't know... I'm not interested in using that at all.
My plan is to take both the controller arms, rail them onto the console,
and then just never take them off, and not use this stupid thing,
and just use the new pro controller that they've got,
which looks almost identical to the previous pro controller, which is fine.
So there you go.
And I don't know if you saw the other scenes, but they'll take these off and use them as singular controllers.
Just flip them on their side, yeah.
See how this thing is actually slotted in?
That's how you're supposed to play, if you want it to be on the TV.
So it isn't a dual screen experience.
Unless maybe you have a second one, but then again,
no one except for one weird third party, or one weird first party is going to actually do it.
But anyways, so they took the thing out, brought it somewhere, I don't remember where.
There's a little flip on the back of it, so they can set it up as a little stand,
so you don't have to be holding it the whole time, if you don't want to,
for the arm fatigue thing that you're talking about.
And then he handed one of these half controllers to someone beside him,
who turned it to the side and started using it as a sideways Wiimote kind of deal,
and then he used the other.
What infuriates me about that is that they're different.
Yeah. Ergonomically, that's a mess.
They're not the same.
Yeah, so one person is going to be flipping it down this way,
and the other person is going to be flipping this up this way.
And this person's thumbstick is in the middle, and that one's on the end,
and he's like, wah, yikes.
Even onscreen telling you what to do, this one's arrows, that one's ABXY.
So tell me this, though.
Okay, I'm going to present an argument counter to yours right now.
Okay.
So tell me this, though.
As the owner of a Nintendo Switch, when your buddies come over,
and you use your pro controller, and you guys are just playing some stupid platformer,
where four buttons and a joypad is enough,
are you going to invest in two more pro controllers for your buddies,
or are you going to make them use the bitch controllers?
Knowing Nintendo, their previous controllers probably work.
Do you think they will?
Okay, we saw interoperability.
I honestly think Wiimotes are going to work on this.
According to Wii U, I can see the logic in their mind of going, okay,
a Wii controller should work on a Wii console.
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't have compatibility,
because it's not like Nintendo has never been known to kill interoperability
for no apparent reason.
I mean, they are still a Japanese company.
Okay, I think I have a feeling motion is dead.
You think so?
I think so.
But I don't think that interplay is dead.
So I think you'll be able to use a Wiimote sideways for platformers and stuff.
I don't think, I don't know, but I don't think that motion is going to be around.
And I think they're completely ditching the VR aspect,
although I have seen some people talking about the cloth headset ideal,
or idea, not ideal, where you have like, what is it called, Daydream?
You know the Daydream headset thing?
Yeah.
Where they could just release that, and then it's like, oh, Nintendo VR!
I just hope they don't, to be completely honest.
And then, yeah, I think motion is gone, and Nintendo is going back
and just deciding that they want to kind of bring their mobile
and their console together a little bit, and there you go.
So this is Nvidia's wet dream.
Oh, yeah.
This whole thing.
This is what Nvidia has been trumpeting from the rooftops for years,
since the first Tegra, I guess?
It's been a while.
Yeah, since the first Tegra, which is probably like five years ago now.
Like you've got to imagine, Nintendo walked up to Nvidia,
and we're like, oh, you're doing some cool stuff?
Do you want to work us?
Yes!
Please!
Like, yes, this is what we've been trying to do with our portable graphics technology.
We haven't been able to get anyone to get on board,
so we've had to make our own products, which we totally didn't want to do,
and we totally screwed it up, and this sucks.
We just want to make GPUs and compute things.
We just want to make really, really cool GPUs that are super power efficient.
We want someone else to put it in something and support it and make games.
Like, lordy.
So, okay.
Motion is heavily rumoured by trustworthy leakers, apparently.
So maybe these little things are motion controlled,
but then I kind of think that's going to suck.
Well, yeah, but the original Wiimote sucks.
So, like, is that somehow surprising?
Yeah, but Wiimote Plus is a bit better.
Still, like, you know, selling the Wii, or even Wiimote Plus,
you can have lightsaber duels.
It falls under somewhere between very deceptive and, like, litigation worthy.
So, I don't know, man.
Someone said I wouldn't say motion is gone, it's just not a focus.
I definitely don't think it's a focus unless they have, like, another trailer in the future
where they show, like, different things, but they didn't show any focus.
And there's plenty of time for that.
Oh, there is.
There's quite a while till this is going to be launched.
I still have so many questions as to, like, what's this little notch?
Yeah, there's a little notch in the back.
They can't see.
What is... Oh, I didn't realize we weren't screen sharing.
There's a little notch in the back of the controller.
What exactly does the dock do?
Is it only video passthrough and power, or, like, is there more to it?
I doubt there's more to it.
I doubt there is too.
Yeah, again, that's, like, if it's...
They just didn't answer that question.
Like, this to me looks like a beefed up Nvidia Tegra-based tablet.
With some rails on the side for controllers.
With some rails on the side for a controller, and with Nintendo's first-party IP ultimately driving the sales.
Yeah, because Zelda, so everyone's going to buy it.
Is this an attempt to lower software development costs?
By consolidating the two platforms, now they don't have to have a separate development team working on, like, mobile games.
Mobile Zelda versus full-size console Zelda.
They can just kind of go, like, could they double their output to their install base of sellable games by just doing twice as many Zeldas, twice as many Marios, and doing them all for the same platform now?
This is just kind of spitballing, like, the business decision that goes into trying to make a one-size-fits-all solution.
My girlfriend had some interesting kind of ideas for this.
I'm just going to bring it back up since there's, like...
Which was, like, one of them was optional side quests that make you bring it into portable mode.
So, like, if they mix, like, the vague concept of the Go games, like Pokemon Go, and make it so, like, oh, okay, there's an optional side quest for you to, like, go do something that's 500 meters that way.
So you have to, like, get up off your butt.
You have to get up, rail the controllers on the side, walk away with the console, go over there, do something while you're over there.
Or, like, go up this much elevation, or down this much elevation, or whatever.
Oh, I guess that's hard in some areas. Here it's not.
I thought that would be interesting. I seriously doubt anyone will do that ever.
But I thought that could be kind of fun.
There's a lot they could still do with this, but it does simplify things.
Like, I'm sure there's people in the chat where there's, like, more or less confirmed rumors or whatever, but I've been trying to stay away from rumors as much as I can.
At one point in time, only once did I see him put anything, or her, whatever, the different people that were in the trailer, put anything into it.
A card-sized thing, so it looked like a Game Boy game.
So, one, Game Boy game compatibility, maybe?
Two, is that the new media?
Right.
Maybe full games are sold on this, like, small-sized thing?
Because we've seen SD cards in huge capacities for a long time.
You could put any game on an SD card today. Any game.
So, like, are they changing the media format? Is it no longer going to be a disc? I don't know.
I don't know, man. It's pretty interesting. I wouldn't mind saying goodbye to discs, that's for sure.
I was actually playing a game on my SNES on the weekend, and I was like, wow, no loading. That's cool.
I remember that.
I would be cool with getting away from discs. I do still like physical media.
Right.
I just, I don't know. Yeah.
Yeah!
Because I hate the idea of, like, this thing doesn't look very big. I wonder how much storage it has.
Probably not enough.
Who's been screwed over by the Nintendo store before?
Probably everyone that owns one of their consoles.
Like, I'd rather own the physical media, just so I know that it's going to work next time I plug it in.
Yeah, I have two Wiis. Long story.
Do you?
Two Wiis. Long story.
And one of them has all of my Nintendo store purchases on it.
Broken disc drive.
And it turns out, and this again is like, hardware revision, cons.
This weekend I actually had to go on eBay and buy a refurbbed optical drive for it.
Because if I bought a new one, I would lose.
Because I have an RV-001, which has GameCube ports on the side.
So I have to buy from some cheesy eBay store, some refurbbed optical drive.
That's like, it's a known bad part. They fail all the time.
So like, the fact that that one still works today means absolutely nothing about two weeks from now.
And that's the only way to solve that problem.
So I will be doing that when it arrives.
Like you said, have you... Oh, I guess I could have just swapped the optical drives.
Yeah, isn't...
No, I bought one. Well, whatever.
Well, does that one have the right optical drive?
Yeah, they were both launch units. I literally camped out multiple times for the Nintendo Wii.
It was the one and only time that I have ever camped out for anything.
Alright.
We've got people upset about trying the other end.
Trying the other end?
Trying the other end of the cable. I don't think that's it, though.
Yeah, it's definitely not the A side.
It used to be A is pretty much always fine.
It used to be A is pretty much always fine.
Okay. Well, that's it.
I don't think that's going to solve it.
Oh! Oh!
Yeah, but I think that's like...
It's delayed.
Yeah, I don't think that's... Anyway.
Alright!
That worked.
So, moving on to... Have we only done one topic?
We've only done one topic.
It is kind of an important topic.
But, let's move on.
Are you interested? Final thoughts?
Final thoughts. Nintendo NX.
Or, what are they calling it now?
Switch. Terrible name.
Oh my god! It sounds so much...
This looks a little trashy. I'm going to...
Put that there. There we go.
I only notice that now.
Hello?
Yes.
More Twitch streamers.
I hate that name.
It super sounds like an accessory.
Which, like, sucks.
Because the Wii U sounded like an add-on for the Wii.
And now the Nintendo Switch sounds like...
And the Wii sounded like a penis.
So, they're like 0 for 3.
In, like, the last 10 years.
How can you...
How can you do it wrong?
Nintendo Switch. It's not a sexy name.
The Nintendo NX was pretty cool.
They could have even played with that.
Like, N is in docked mode.
And then X, you put the controllers on the side.
The Nintendo NX is cool.
Nintendo Switch is just like...
It's like they don't have focus groups.
Yeah. Or something.
Like, it's probably... You know what?
It's probably one of those things where, like, the Japanese name is super cool or something.
And, like, super awesome.
It makes a ton of sense.
And then, they just, like, ask that dude in accounting who speaks English, like...
Hey, yo, what should we call it?
And he's like...
Oh, hold on a second.
I just gotta switch my thing to speakerphone.
Sorry, what was that, Switch?
I don't know, man.
Apparently the audio is borked again.
Yeah, I don't know what we're supposed to do about that.
So...
Okay.
Mic problems are, like...
Okay, what's worse? Mic problems or printer problems?
Uh... Wow, depends.
Do I need to print something right now?
Yeah, and you're also live on a show.
I don't know. I think they're both terrible.
Let's see. We've got people saying...
Printer problems?
I mean, that means it's working, right?
That was kind of a trick to see if people were gonna answer the question.
I guess so.
This show, Facepalm, I know, right?
Okay, let's move on to our next topic.
Yeah.
This is interesting.
So the original article here is from No Film School.
With Razer's purchase of THX,
we're one step closer to ultimate calibration.
What?
What?
Um...
What?
I don't really necessarily think that that is gonna have anything to do with anything.
I mean, this is great, okay?
So wouldn't it be nice if we had a laptop with image quality
that looked reasonably close to that of its broadcast monitor?
I really doubt that Razer's acquisition of THX has anything to do with
having their laptops be broadcast monitor quality displays.
Like, the cost of putting a broadcast monitor quality display in one of these.
I love the Razer Blade, and I think it's a great laptop,
but already they could have put a better display in the Razer Blade,
and that could have been done fairly easily based on what's available in the market,
but they didn't, so I don't think they're gonna run out and buy THX
so that they could certify their displays to start something.
Okay, hold on.
So anyway, in 1983, George Lucas created THX to make sure
Return of the Jedi felt right in theaters.
THX has been certifying audiovisual systems ever since.
Panasonic TVs, Onkyo AV receivers, Lincoln cars, kind of, etc.
So Razer CEO Min-Lang Tan and THX CEO Thiamad Taylor
said neither brand will be going away and the two companies will continue to
They're gonna have their own direction, their own customer base,
and they're gonna be operating their own management with their own vision and so forth.
So Razer plans to retain all of THX's existing 50-person staff
and will hire 10 to 15 more people to expand their core certification business.
So they want to sell more certs.
So you shouldn't see any THX by Razer or other such cross-branding.
They see a lot of potential to have the expertise of THX supplied in new categories
like virtual reality and spatial surround sound
and Razer CEO added that THX's patents in those areas might be valuable.
This is just weird.
Min-Lang Tan also said that while they are one of the biggest when it comes to headsets,
they haven't really expanded the best out there.
Which, as Min knows, I most assuredly do not agree with that statement at all.
That's kind of a funny quote from the guy that makes Razer headsets.
They haven't expanded their audio line because they're just so focused on having really good stuff.
No, no, themselves, Razer.
Oh, seriously?
Yeah, because they're intent on having...
Oh, okay.
Oh, we killed Lucas.
So I get a lot of people asking me,
X, Y, or Z, and the reason for it is that the conclusion for every Razer headset review that I can do is always the same.
We also don't review Turtle Beach headsets.
It's always like, yeah, it's okay, I guess, for the price, but the sound signature is awful.
It's a mess.
Or Astro headsets.
Yeah, Astro.
They don't like us.
Astro doesn't like us at all.
Boy, that was a terrible product I reviewed.
They sure didn't like my review.
Razer is still willing to talk to us.
Negative reviews of their products from time to time.
So basically, if I had to interpret this somehow,
Razer, with debt investment money, needs to grow their business,
and the business of certification is something they've already indicated that they're interested in,
so things like the Razer co-branded cases from NZXT and Antec,
things like Razer Edition systems from the likes of Main Gear.
So they've already demonstrated that this is something that they're actively working on,
so now they have a dedicated subdivision of the company, sort of, like a sister company,
like an owned company, a child company, is it called?
It's a parent company, a child company? I don't know.
Anyway, the point is, they own THX, and so we can expect to probably see,
given that they're expanding THX's staff by 20 plus percent,
so we're going to see a lot more like, you know,
Asus ROG Swift monitor certified by THX, or maybe like,
you know, it's something Razer's never really done in the past,
so you'll see, while,
HP do, is it, Harman Kardon?
Harman Kardon.
Harman Kardon, obviously.
We've been doing that for a long time.
Altec Lansing, like, designed ones on.
Oh, that used to be like every laptop that happened to be silver?
I don't know why. No, this was a thing for like two years.
Every laptop that was silver colored would have an Altec Lansing battery.
It was a thing.
Is that a pro or a non-pro?
Look at the bottom, look at the bottom.
Is there an XLR input? No, that is not a pro.
We will not be able to hot-swap it, but thank you.
If you can get a pro, that would be swell.
Colton tries to do things.
Get pro, Colton.
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I'm like, well, no, I was pointing at the URL that time.
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How do you guys do it?
I don't know if this is going to work, doing this swap in real time.
Like I think XSplit might get confused.
Really?
And it's more likely that it's the cable than the mic anyway, which is just sort of an interesting
aside.
Do we want to try it anyways?
I don't know because it...
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What did he hand me?
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What is he doing?
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So the configurator is really cool.
And this is a relatively recent addition to their portfolio.
They actually have their sleeved external cables now, too.
So this is an Ethernet cable.
And then I think Luke is also running out to grab a power cable.
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All right, should we move on and actually like do some topics maybe?
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Oh, man, I'm super sketched on that because like levels will need to be adjusted and like
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So Tesla reveals Autopilot 2.0 available on all new cars, including the Model 3.
I wonder how long until like some guy buys the Model 3 and it's completely against Autopilot
and their kid tries to rip all the tech out and see what they can do with it because it
comes with like some pretty intense hardware.
They call it a Nvidia GPU Titan supercomputer.
Like it's pretty intense.
And considering the cost of the car and the fact that you get an entire car and it has
that in it is actually kind of interesting.
Honestly, that's something that I've always had a hard time figuring out.
Why it is that when I'm buying a $3,000 TV, it doesn't have a $200 processor in it.
Why don't you just make it $3,200 and put a proper processor in it?
Like honestly though, same thing with cars.
Like why is it that any car made in the last 10 years doesn't have an incredibly fluid
interface?
No excuse.
I just spent $35,000 on this.
Why didn't you spend, and that's a thing like going back five years.
I wanted to do a video like, okay, so way back when we first started doing car stuff,
the first car thing on our channel was some BMW thing that I did at CES and then I wanted
to do a follow-up, which is where I compared my car to newer, similarly priced when they
were new cars that were on the market.
And I wanted to compare them as a car tech episode, like car tech through the ages.
Like okay, my car is from 2009, so I think this was 2015, we'll go like in the last six
years, how much has improved?
Like let's look at how the automotive industry paces through things, apparently not at all
or negatively sometimes.
There are some like newer cars, which are pretty awesome, but at that point in time,
we got in contact with insert manufacturer here, because honestly I don't remember who
it was.
I want to call it the wrong one, so whatever.
And their car had a smaller screen and less features than mine at the same prices when
mine was new.
I was just like, what?
And to be clear, there is some better stuff coming.
Oh, and there is some better stuff out now, but like some of them are still really brutal,
and that one was pretty bad.
And I still feel the same way about TVs, like why do TVs still have input lag?
I don't care how much image processing you do, put it on a processor in it!
Just put a better one in!
I mean I went off about that on the video I did of LG's $8,000 signature series.
I'm just like, they're like, yes, the priority was image quality.
That's nice.
Prioritize everything.
It's an $8,000 TV.
Prioritize everything.
I don't expect to have a crummy gaming experience on a product that costs as much.
So this picture here, also from the Electrek.co article here, shows you what a Tesla will
be able to see with all of the sensors with which it is now equipped.
So eight cameras, three of which are front-facing, better ultrasonic, and a 40 times more powerful
onboard computer, and they're calling it an NVIDIA GPU Titan supercomputer.
Does that mean it is actually based on like a GP20 something, what is it, GP200, GP201?
I wouldn't be surprised, because at that like really weird, I don't know if any of you guys
saw this.
I periscoped it, I think, and I guess that means that it was on my Twitter, because I
didn't have access to the main Twitter then, but when I was at Computex, there was this
really weird NVIDIA announcement meeting, and it was like a tiny little room, and it
wasn't really done all that well, to be completely honest, but they were talking about machine
learning, and something that they kept on pushing but would not answer was that they
wanted to do more stuff with their Titan.
They were talking about Pascal very specifically, and they were talking about how like, oh we've
spent enough money to get someone to, was it Mars they were saying?
Like we've spent so much money developing this stuff, and there was a big underlying
thing that was like, yeah, you're all here for Computex, but we spent a lot of money
developing this stuff, and it wasn't necessarily all for you.
There was like, that was definitely an under... throwing it in your face, but it was the
unspoken like, there's other stuff going on, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if this
is Pascal based.
So it'll reach level 3 autonomy in the coming months, and level 4 and 5... autonomy by 2018
in vehicles produced today in 2016, so you still have to pay more, so the safety stuff
is included for nothing, but the autopilot convenience features were $3000, and the new
options also come at a price, so in order to get fully autonomous driving, you're gonna
have to spend $8000 on the system.
Okay so if you're buying a model 3, that's quite an extra add.
Tesla's moving away from the name autopilot, that should be noted since it's going full
autonomous, and blah blah blah, including the substantially greater, so they're calling
the safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver.
The 8 surround cameras provide visibility around the car up to 250m.
And like, while it's a little bit of a bold claim because they don't have very much sample
data compared to all the other cars ever, it kinda logically, as we go on, will become
and already arguably is safer than average drivers on the road.
So this was exciting today.
Large DDoS attacks cause outages at Twitter, Spotify, and other sites, including Shutterstock,
which made it a little bit difficult for us to get videos edited today, but hey, I'm sure
they were, you know, doing something important.
So do our notes even have?
So they took down Amazon, Twitter, Spotify, a second attack has been reported, sites were
down for 2 hours before coming back up, and the way they achieved this was by attacking
DineDNS, a public DNS service.
Which is pretty intense.
Yeah, so websites and services across the east coast were shut down earlier in the day,
and Dine added that the attack impacted its DNS advanced services monitoring for customers,
but it later resolved the issues.
The Department of Homeland Security told CNBC that it is looking into all potential causes
of the attack.
I can tell them the potential cause.
It's got cheese stained fingers.
There was some seismic activity.
Yeah, seismic activity.
It caused a DDoS attack.
Razorblade Pro.
Yep.
Are you stoked?
Do you care?
Um, I requested a review sample, if that's what you're asking.
It looks thin and it has a 1080 in it.
Stoked?
I think stoked is a strong word.
It has an Ethernet port, and I'm stoked about that.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah, baby.
2016, bringing Ethernet ports here.
That's right.
Bringing it back, sucka.
I am interested in the fact that it features their new low profile mechanical membrane
hybrid switches.
That's cool, because while the blade switches are like acceptable, I don't think they're,
I personally don't like them that much.
Oh, I really like them.
But compared to other laptops in its thickness, they're very good.
Compared to other laptops at all, I'm not a fan.
Okay, that's not really fair, because if we're going to like pull the GT80 Titan out, full
Cherry MX Brown, I'm not counting that one.
Not counting that one.
I actually don't like that experience either, because that experience as a whole is just
kind of terrible.
I don't understand how they sold so many of those laptops.
Have you ever, you've like tried to use it, right?
Yeah.
Like it's not, it's not, you know, they reneged on the GPU upgrade commitment, right?
Seriously?
Yeah.
I did not know.
They had no choice.
GTX 1080 replaced 980M.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
They had no choice.
It was like, it was a completely different ball of wax.
There was no way for them to power a coolant.
So apparently, I talked to the US office about it.
Apparently they worked it out so that GT80 Titan owners could work out some kind of a
deal to like upgrade.
There was like an upgrade program for the laptop itself or something.
But like, yeah, what a bad situation.
That's pretty brutal.
Okay, so some more, some more specs for the Razer Blade Pro.
I mean, the one thing I'll say about the new Razer Blade Pro is that this is one case where
it's actually justified to like do a reboot, calling it the new Razer Blade Pro because
they have had a Razer Blade Pro before.
No, no.
The original Blade Pro had that switchblade thing where it was like a display on the touchpad,
the glass touchpad.
You're getting soft.
That was off to the right.
You're getting soft.
I don't consider it a real product.
You're getting, oh.
Oh.
I consider it a tech demo.
I don't think they sold a lot of them.
No.
Have you ever seen a Blade Pro?
I've even tried to tell people about it because I remember like we reviewed it where I, no
one has any idea what I'm ever talking about.
It had like a 760M or like a 660M in it or something.
Like it had an awful GPU in it.
That thing on the side was so doomed.
17 inch display, weird side mounted, so I get it.
Okay, reboot, proper GPU, 17.3 inch.
You're talking like Tomb Raider kind of reboot.
Yes.
I'm talking like rebooted.
Like new Tomb Raider, new Razer Blade Pro.
Can you get on board with that?
But they didn't call it new Tomb Raider, they just called it Tomb Raider.
That's true.
But that's kind of worse.
Like if they just called it Tomb Raider 2013, we'd all be a lot less confused.
I don't think anyone's confused though.
I think that was like the one time that actually sort of worked.
Let's see.
So they're just calling it new.
Well, okay.
So I'm still not super happy about it.
That was a pretty significant amount of time, I think, for Tomb Raider.
Yeah, it was like 20 years.
How long has this been?
Four?
Four, five, something like that.
I guess it is tag hardware.
Yeah.
But like...
That's an eternity in tag.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I still hate the name, but I see where you're coming from.
So 4K display with an LED backlight as if they were going to...
What else would they be backlighting it with?
It's a touchscreen.
Nuclear power.
Yeah.
It's like, yo, we're going to put CCFL backlighting into a laptop for the first time in the last
five years.
You have to swap them out.
We wanted our laptop to be super thick and bulky and have an uneven backlight, so we
went CCFL.
No, they're just trying to make Fallout 4 more immersive.
We wanted lots of heavy metals in our laptop so that you could rock out to heavy metal.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
GTX 1080 with nine gigs of GDDR5X.
It's an unusual configuration.
Core i7 6700 processor, so that is a desktop grade processor, which is very interesting.
Okay.
Up to 32 gigs of dual channel memory, DDR4, and 512 one terabyte or two terabytes of storage
in RAID 0.
Our videos are so clickbait now that I don't know how I'm going to find this, because I
don't know what it was called.
What are you looking for?
But the event that I went to in London.
Oh, mobile GPUs are dead.
Clickbait.
Anyways.
True.
Yeah.
Like, I don't, I do not think that was the spec that they said the 1080 was going to
be.
So that's something new.
Well, the 1080 is customizable.
I actually got a really interesting email from Sasha Kron.
I remember Sasha from his BitFenix days, but he saw my video of the, oh, he's from, he's
there now.
Yeah, he's at ASUS now.
He saw my review of the Sager dual 1080 SLI laptop, and he sent this memo out to me.
As far as I know, the total TDP for the GPU is around 220 watts for mobile 1080s.
I don't know if you should be saying that he said this, because at the event that I
was at, it was like, they were not talking about TDPs for things.
Well basically, oh, am I, why do you tell me this then?
Hold on a second.
May I ask what prompted this message, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like I don't know, but like PCper and other people were like, hey, what are the TDPs of
things?
And they were like, no, definitely not.
So I don't, oh, thanks Ryan for the good question at the, at the meeting that was.
What we know is that the TDP for the mobile GTX 1080 is configurable.
What I know and what you don't know is that it is very configurable, depending on how
much thermal dissipation the notebook is designed for and how much power the notebook is designed
to provide.
So whatever the manufacturer sets it to, the GPU will try and get the most out of the power
and thermal budget.
So what I will definitely be doing with the Blade Pro is putting it head to head against
a thicker style laptop that has a GTX 1080 mobile edition in it.
I wonder if you can beat it out.
I can beat out anything.
Like water cooling.
We could try water cooling it, yeah.
We should try to make the best dock ever made for a Razer Blade Pro.
I'd be kind of down.
And when you dock it, it like you water cool it.
We should just do like the best laptop dock ever.
Like I don't know exactly how we would do it, but like, what if you just like Peltier
the crap out of the bottom and made it like really cold Peltier cooling is a nightmare.
I know.
Cause it's more.
Okay.
So a lot of people have asked why I've never done a tech cooler video, TEC cooler, a thermal
electric cooling Peltier.
The reason is that most, sorry.
The way that most people think Peltier cooling works is not really the way that it works.
So there's more to it than just like you put a Peltier on something and like, let's say
a CPU and the CPU runs really cool.
So you actually have to dissipate not only the heat produced by the CPU, but also the
heat produced on the hot side of the Peltier.
It's pretty brutal.
So let's say you've got 130 watt CPU, something along those lines.
Okay.
So you have to have a cooler that can dissipate 130 Watts of heat then.
And this is where it gets really cumbersome.
You can just put 130 watt Peltier on it.
It doesn't work that way.
You need something like double or possibly triple the capacity.
If you want to see really low temperatures, like if you wanted to actually justify the
fact that you're using it, if you use one that is underpowered, you will actually end
up with the Peltier acting as an insulator.
And you will end up with CPU temps that are hotter than what you would have if you weren't
using a Peltier at all.
And you will eventually burn out your tech.
There's also condensation issues.
There's condensation issues and there are power issues.
Oh yeah.
So why are you trying to tech cool?
There's a question you have to ask yourself.
Are you trying to tech cool because you want super low temperatures or because it's fricking
sick and if that's the case, then go phase because tech cooling is can be, can be cheaper
than things, but okay, I'll get to that.
So tech cooling can be cheaper than phase, but it also has the potential to fail catastrophically
because your CPU will overheat very, very quickly with a Peltier that stops working
on top of it.
And the configuration is complicated.
You'll still need to insulate.
It's like kind of a pain in the butt.
And if you're concerned and it's, so it's less reliable than phase change.
Remember, phase change is what runs your fridge.
Like phase change is like appliances, stuff like it's pretty, it's pretty stable.
Cool technology by this point in time.
The other thing is that while phase change is loud, tech cooling, because now all of
a sudden you have a 450 watt heat load sitting on your CPU to cool tech cooling ends up pretty
loud too.
The way people used to do it was by buying Meanwell 320 watt power supplies.
And then if they had a really powerful tech, they would buy a couple of them.
Most things are fricking loud.
They're like server power supplies.
Nowadays we have power supplies that technically could run a system and a tech, but what we
still don't have is power lines in your system actually designed to carry that kind of current
without overheating.
So you would have to like custom wire up like an AX 1500i.
And even then, I don't think Corsair is going to sign off on putting random stuff like that
on their power supply because it's an incredible load.
And there's a reason that modern power supplies, even if it's done virtually, have their rails
divided.
So random aside really quickly, we'll get back to this.
When I was at TwitchCon, randomly, mostly for fun, I guess, I stopped by some booth
who luckily didn't know who I was because I ran away afterwards.
But they were selling CPU coolers that were tech coolers.
They're CPU coolers and then they had six pin power that would go into the side of it.
And I saw that and was just like, what the heck, yeah.
Non-tech has a review up.
I wonder how he did his conclusion because when I was standing there, not only do you
have this weird cable going into the top of the cooler, which is the worst possible place
for that to be in terms of like aesthetic cable management stuff, but it didn't seem
like it did that well.
They did a demo in person and I was like, eh, but like I can't.
Non-tech review, which we're just going to like pull up on screen.
You guys can check it out.
It's actually a pretty good read.
Core temperatures, blah, blah, blah.
So this is with a 60 watt load, so it's a pretty low power CPU.
Let's see, do they, here we go.
Here we go.
So let's say 100 watt load and if you're overclocking, that's not even, so you can see it goes from
being the best performing to falling way, way behind its size compared to a D 15 is
that's a, that's a big difference.
Yeah, it is a lot smaller than a D 50 so it is smaller.
But if you're, if you're, okay, if you're tech cooling, I'm assuming we're not talking
a hundred watt load.
We're talking 150 watt load at least.
And all of a sudden it's like pretty close to the aim is closer to the AMD Wraith than
it is to an opt to any 15 and like, which is like a box cooler.
I mean, it's a good box cooler, but it's a very good box.
Let's get real.
It's a box cooler.
And like you have to plug that six pin into the it's so derpy and I don't know the more
you load a tech, the worse it performs and the hotter it's running, the less efficiently
it runs.
Like there's a bunch of problems with tech cooling and there's a reason that it has never
happened.
So there you have it.
Apparently the sound cut out right after I said I can't.
So people were like, can't what?
You can't even Oh, dead memes.
Um, AMD announces their Q3 2016 financial results.
Hey, uh, no, no.
That's just their stock price.
Oh, sorry.
No, that's also good.
They lost a bunch of money.
Oh, but they lost last maybe.
So 1.3 billion revenue, gross margin of 5% and a net income of minus $406 million.
So they have more revenue, but as far as I can tell, they straight up just bought it.
They could have literally bought like they did worse than they could have bought money
and then they'd be better off than if they hadn't.
I'm pretty sure if they bought like American dollars and then just transferred them into
Canadian.
So basically they sold $5 bills for $3, no, like $2.
Yeah.
Oh, for, to make up the difference between, yeah.
Um, so, so there's that.
Oh man.
See, uh, I thought they were doing better than that cause they're selling lots of GPUs.
So I mean, this is good.
Okay.
This is coming in a video very soon.
I actually have a video that I'm calling the viewers choice award PC, where I go through
all of the Amazon sales data for last month.
Really cool video.
Seriously.
I'll watch this.
Yep.
All of our Amazon affiliate sales data and I pick all the most popular components.
Well, I don't pick, you guys pick based on what people are buying.
I sift through and find all the most popular components for every category, CPU, motherboard,
case.
And what's really cool about it is that I end up with a very compatible, yeah, I ended
up with a fully compatible, totally sensible gaming config.
That's like as good as anything I could have picked out.
Good job.
The bad news is that I, it was probably the most generic thing ever.
No, no, no.
It was pretty good.
It was pretty good.
I saw 400 S like a 6,700 K I was like pretty, pretty BA 400 S is like, okay, fantax is kind
of the, they're, they're kind of rocking the case game right now.
They're like Corsair when cases first started getting cool.
Corsair like kind of started all this.
So I ran through just because I had all the numbers in front of me, I ran through some,
some additional numbers.
I was just kind of curious in our viewer base, what's the, what's the market share like Nvidia
versus AMD both in terms of units sold and in terms of revenue.
And what I found was actually pretty terrifying.
I I'm just going to see if I can, maybe I'll just bring it up right right now.
I'll bring up the actual numbers cause I don't want to say something wrong.
AMD 400 series cards are really good.
To be very clear, we don't, we're not hating on the cards.
No, like what?
Not a thing.
It's been frustrating, like talking to friends and family and like random people outside
of just videos that we make for LTT, people will be like, Oh man, I need a 1080, but it's
really expensive.
And I'm like, why?
It's so powerful.
You don't know why.
And then I have to like fight and talk them down to a 10 70, which is still ridiculous.
I think the thing is like, no one wants to like be that guy with a 400 series AMD card,
but then we just did testing on battlefield one spoiler alert.
Holy crap.
The AMD cards did real well.
Don't turn on DX 12.
I'm pretty sure AMD.
It made no difference and Nvidia was slightly worse.
I think.
I don't know.
And don't go on lower medium settings.
John figured this out.
What the heck?
Low and medium settings introduced to like artifacting and all this other bogus.
You'll have to watch the video to like see what's going on, but that was weird.
So video card market share last month by units was 87.7% Nvidia, 12.3% AMD and by revenue.
This is where it gets really scary 95.1% in video 4.9% AMD.
Now with that said, the stuff that people were buying in general skewed towards the
high end for things that people were buying on our affiliate code.
So bear that in mind.
But what you guys also have to understand is much like we were talking about on the
land show two weeks ago, where Samsung is saying is really confident that SSDs can overtake
hard drives in the economy segment of the market because hard drives have a fixed cost.
You have to buy platters.
You have to have motors.
You have to have magnets.
Whereas so you can only build a hard drive for like 40 bucks at the very cheapest, no
matter what capacity it happens to be a video card has a fixed cost.
You have to have a PCB.
You have to have some RAM.
Even if you have a lower amount of RAM, you still have to have like RAM packages, RAM
dies.
You have to have the connectors.
You have to have the licensing associated with an HDMI port.
Like there's all of this stuff.
You have to put some copper on it to cool it and a fan.
And when your chip is bigger and more expensive, that's right.
So when your video card can only be sold for like 110 to $250, which is AMD's entire viable
product stack right now, you incur the same overhead as someone whose product stack goes
all the way up to $700.
So when Nvidia sells a GTX 1080, the cost of that fan, that $3 fan is a much lower proportion
of the overall sale than it is for AMD, where it's like, you know, 3% of the cost of the
card.
It's like, it's significant now.
So when you look at AMD's revenue numbers and you kind of go, oh, they're selling lots
of GPUs.
It's not as profitable.
And that's a big problem.
I really hope Zen does well.
Although I'm like selfishly not excited for it to come out because then for everything,
everyone's going to want an entirely other set of benchmarks because they're going to
want the other platforms results.
No one cares right now that everything's just tested on Intel and it's fine.
We just did battlefields and I did like, or John, sorry, John.
John did a graphics card testing, total system RAM testing, VRAM testing, like CPU core testing.
Now we're gonna have to do CPU core testing, other type of CPU core testing, other type
of IPC tests, like is it figuring out which speed matters on different things?
Press F, pay respects.
So many benchmarks.
Uber's ad-toting drones are heckling drivers stuck in traffic.
Oh my God.
So the trends.
Oh my God.
Like, look at these things.
So the translation is, are you driving by yourself or something along those lines?
Let me just, let me have a look.
Spanish to English says driving by yourself.
This is why you can never see the volcanoes.
So it's a reference to the smog that hovers over the city and obscures two nearby peaks.
So it's an ad for Uber pool as part of Uber's big push into markets across Latin America.
Wow.
What a way to get drones banned in your area.
Uber does more business in Mexico city than almost any other city it operates in.
So I thought that was pretty interesting.
What a way.
One of those is going to fall and it's going to bounce off a car and then smash a window
and then drones are going to be banned.
Well, it won't be able to get over the wall into America.
So Oh, so he's kind of like imploded over the last little bit.
We don't even have to make fun of him anymore.
I think he's screwed.
Yeah.
So that's, that's just as well that, that, that got too close.
Yes.
For comfort.
I don't know if it's, I don't want to talk about politics, but I think we're, I think
we're just screwed in that department.
Whatever happened.
I'm not happy with anything going on down there.
Oh, well, yeah.
Okay.
Even the side game.
I'm just like, Nope.
Don't like any of it.
Side game for like third party stuff, whatever.
Oh, the independent, the other, the non non two parties on two parties.
I just, the whole thing's just, I don't know.
Samsung commences mass production of system on chip with 10 nanometer FinFET tech.
Now the thing to understand here is that a nanometer is not necessarily like a nanometer
at TSMC is not necessarily a nanometer at Intel is not necessarily a nanometer at Samsung.
The way that it's defined is not quite as black and white as it used to be.
Yeah.
So for example, one person's 14 nanometer is not necessarily core could be equivalent,
excuse me, to someone else's 16 nanometer FinFET makes a big difference with that said,
this is 10 nanometer FinFET, but not everyone's FinFET is created equal.
But here's the quote, the industry's first mass production of 10 nanometer FinFET technology
demonstrates our leadership in advanced process technology says the executive vice president
head of foundry business at Samsung electronics.
We will continue our efforts to innovate scaling technologies and provide differentiated total
solutions to our customers.
Apparently allows up to a 30% increase in area efficiency with 27% higher performance
or 47 or excuse me, 40% lower power consumption.
So expect faster phones with less power consumption in a phone near you sometime pretty soon.
That's good.
Speaking of phone near you, pretty excited to finally try the pixel.
Yeah.
I hope it shows up pretty soon.
I'm actually, and the more I hear about it, actually the more excited I am.
So hopefully it works out.
Maybe, maybe they'll have figured out how to make it so that when you go into the battery
usage thing in Android, it's not just full of, it's not just full of 40% Android system
that you don't know what's actually using the power.
By the way, I did get your email.
Do you think they figured that out?
Do you think they figured that out yet?
No.
No?
No, you don't think so?
Oh, no.
All right.
I did get your email about the laptops next door, which like the WAN show is very well
versed on at this point and no one else has any idea what's going on.
Yeah.
The, the browser worse.
But I am still, I've got some more information.
Okay.
Am I here?
Did you hear my whole, like I'm leaving windows 10 thing?
Yes, I think so.
So there's so many like background processes and all this bullshit that runs that I'm just
kind of done with windows 10.
So I was like, this has to be why that's going on.
And it is, I was right.
There are random bull crap things that are happening during the tests.
It just so happens that two of them seem to have pattern at the same time and two of the
other ones seem to pattern at the same time as well because I did some followups and they
don't always like the two that did better on that one test.
Yeah.
Sometimes don't, sometimes they will do worse and they did better by like two hours and
sometimes they will do worse by like an hour or so, right?
So they're not better laptops.
They just patterned better.
So I need to figure out every single individual tiny thing to turn off.
And there are a lot of them.
Wow.
Windows 10.
Oh my God.
There's a huge amount of automated things in the background.
Like it's not just my stream.
Like it's a thing and it's crippling people like I've done some more research on it.
Like like pretty low end computers that you're like, or back in the day, like all your windows
seven computer, you couldn't have done Vista or XP computer.
You couldn't have done Vista, but seven's probably fine.
Throw it on.
It's fine.
No, 10 is not that way.
10 is more Vista where like you need the horsepower and if you have it, it will do cool things
and it will automate everything and everything in the back end is all nice and clean and
tidy and stuff.
Right.
You don't have the power.
It's not very nice to you.
And if you're like using a lot of your computer, it does not care.
It will do whatever it wants completely regardless of what you're doing, which is frustrating.
But anyways, it's coming along.
All right, so Microsoft research demonstrates an actuator that allows feeling virtual objects
in 3D space.
It's a mechanically actuated handheld controller that renders the shape of virtual objects
through physical shape displacement, enabling users to feel 3D surfaces, textures, and forces
that match the visual rendering.
So they've published the results of their investigation in the proceedings of the 29th
annual symposium on user interface software and technology, and they demonstrated two
such controllers, normal touch and texture touch.
It's tracked in 3D to produce spatially registered haptic feedback.
Now we just need incredibly powerful magnets because I think so far that's the only way
that I've been able to figure out how they're going to do weight.
Right.
Cool.
The PS4 Pro is basically two PS4 chips using one of them for old games and both for the
Pro enhancements.
So the original article here is from GamesRadar.
And so SLI is back, sorry, crossfire, crossfire, sorry, crossfire, crossfire, except also there's
two CPUs.
So like Athlon MP is back, FX platform is back, what was it, quad FX, 4x4, 4x4 is back.
Sorry I'm dying.
So I guess there's not really much else to say about that.
I'm trying not to.
Games that support the new console will have a base and a pro mode depending on the hardware
they're played on.
The ability to switch between the two comes from actually doubling the existing hardware.
Wait, so are you going to have to select that?
So we doubled the GPU size by essentially placing it next to a mirrored version of itself,
giving us an extremely clean way to support the existing 700 PS4 titles.
We just turn off half the GPU and run it at something quite close to the original GPU.
So you double the GPU power while running the CPU at the same rate to ensure compatibility
with older games.
Okay, PSVR is doing really well.
We just skimmed over an article that was talking about that.
It's selling 50,000 units in Japan in the first week, although Japan sales of a Nintendo
or Sony thing are not always indicative of...
Still though, I've heard that it's doing pretty well in North America, and one of the reasons
why ours was delayed is because it was sold out.
Okay, fair enough.
All right, well, I think that's it for the WAN Show.
Thank you very much for tuning in this week.
We will see you again next week.
Same bat time, same bat channel, and I'm going to run the intro, but it's the outro now.
We should really do a thing where we pick up the couch and walk away with it or something.
Did I say that?
Oh, no, you mean animated.
Yeah, like a thousand years ago, probably.
Never mind.
No, I meant in the way.
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