I think, whoa.
It worked, but then it was like, uh-oh.
Sorry, that's my ringtone.
All right, so guys, welcome to the WAN Show,
the weekly show where we make asses of ourselves
on a regular basis.
We actually have some corrections from last week's show
that I would like to get right out of the way
here at the beginning.
So number one correction is that
if you fire a bullet straight up into the air,
terminal velocity and wind resistance and all that stuff,
it's not coming down at exactly the same speed
that it was when it's going up and,
yeah, well, I didn't.
So I'm correcting myself, if that's okay with you.
So if it's fired straight up into the air,
the odds of it actually killing someone are extremely low.
However, what we were talking about
was shooting down drones,
in which case you wouldn't necessarily
be firing up directly in the air.
And Mythbusters busted the myth that firing straight up
will cause it to come down at the same speed.
But what they also found is that
if you fire up at an angle,
there is a very good chance that it would kill someone
because it maintains a lot of its forward momentum
regardless of the whole falling speed and whatnot.
It might still be flipping and stuff.
We were technically wrong,
but it's still dangerous if people shoot at drones.
So that's number one.
Another correction from last week is that
HDMI 2.0 does have support for 8K.
It's just the reason that we didn't give any cares about it
is that it's at 30 frames per second or 24
or something like that.
Weren't we also specifically talking about 1.4?
Yes, we were specifically talking about 1.4
at that point in time.
All right, also, we were a little bit simplistic
about the whole Walmart thing
and sort of the supply chain and how much things cost.
So there was an article here that was linked to me.
It's on Google+.
Linus, I'm a fan,
but your extremely simplistic explanation
of the cost of bringing in a product
was unbelievably condescending and just plain wrong.
So there you guys have it.
You can check that out on Google+,
where I said, good point, we'll discuss on the next show.
But one of the objections that this particular viewer had
was that 30 years ago, the average ratio
of what the mean income of a worker at a company
versus the CEO was, was about 30 to one,
whereas now it's about 270 to one.
And that is a completely separate issue,
one that does need to be addressed at some point.
And that Linus Media Group definitely believes firmly
in fighting because I actually don't get paid
much more than anyone else over here.
That 30 to one is not a thing.
I can strive for that 30 to one.
I will be pretty impressed with myself
if I've managed to pull that off.
Although I think companies that have 30 to one
are like giant national chains and stuff.
Well, yes.
Not four person teams.
Well, four person teams could still,
I could just take all of the money.
Yes.
I don't even know if that would still equate.
I should.
I should.
If I paid everyone minimum wage,
and still took everything, I still don't think you'd make it.
And we'd like lose the house.
Oh, all the sad face.
All right.
So we have some great topics for you guys today.
Number one is Haswell-E specs have been allegedly leaked.
Perhaps they're right, perhaps they're not.
We don't know, but there was an article posted
that seems to have some either correct specs
or what looked like fairly realistic fake specs.
Also, the smart bra could be a thing.
Is it for women?
Is it for gamers?
We don't know.
Also, our guest today is Anand from Anand Tech.
So the guy who got me into PCs,
if you guys like built your first PC by watching our videos,
then he's like the equivalent of that for me
because reading his articles was what really got me
passionate about computers and technology.
So I'm extremely excited to have him joining us
in about 25 minutes here.
And then we've also got some other cool stuff
before we fire up that intro.
So we've got consumer hard drives
versus enterprise hard drives in terms of reliability.
There was a test done.
Kind of.
We'll talk about it later.
Observations of an environment.
And then there's a bunch of Xbox One trolls
and a bunch of iPhone trolls.
And this is getting hilarious, but consistent.
And I feel bad, but it's still really funny.
So without further ado, let's get on with the show.
One.
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So without further ado,
why don't we get into our first topic here,
which is that Oculus has gotten a massive $75 million
in additional funding to jumpstart
the virtual reality business.
So this was posted on the forum by TopWarGamer.
The original article is from theverge.com.
And how excited are you about this?
Cause you're probably the biggest Oculus fan boy
in like probably a hundred kilometers square
from here at least.
Probably actually.
Did I tell you for like my family Christmas thing,
I'm bringing my computer and Oculus home
so everyone can try it.
Did I tell you about that?
We have people like coming in from Eastern Canada
to visit us and all this kind of stuff.
My mom was like, oh, we need an activity.
I was like, we can all play Oculus Rift.
So she was down.
So we're doing that.
Wow, that's awesome.
That might extend that range that you just came up with
by a little bit.
Family Christmas at Luke's family's, seriously?
A hundred percent.
I'm stoked.
There we go.
All right.
So a lot of this money is going towards actually
like producing, making, and getting ready to sell.
Mass production, like making it happen.
I mean, the development,
they already kind of spent that money.
They kind of have them now, but that's.
They need way more of them.
As everyone on Kickstarter ever discovered,
there's a lot more to raising the funding
to bring a product to market
than just covering the cost of having it manufactured
and then kind of going.
Yeah, we're done.
Yeah, so that's what a lot of the money is going to.
And an interesting quote from one of the big investors
who's now gonna be on the board
because he invested so much money,
or not exact quote,
but basically what he was saying was
when he saw the developer kit,
he wasn't 100% sold and he wasn't ready to invest,
which I completely understand
because when you have the developer kit,
you can see all these pixels
and you can actually like easily see the grid
in between the pixels.
You have one, right?
Yeah, and it's wonderful,
but you can still see the pixels.
So it's still kind of a rough experience.
And he said that once he saw the consumer version,
which is a higher resolution,
he was sold and he was ready to invest all that money.
So that actually makes me super stoked
because I haven't tried the high res version yet,
which like, man, I'm stoked.
That's one of the biggest things
that I find holding it back.
And for me personally,
what I'm really excited for
is the consumer version to be released,
a whole bunch of people to buy it
and then people will start building accessories for it.
When we were testing the Omni,
the gun that was there was not super great.
I was so sad when I saw Jan's Shark Tank appearance.
I don't know if you guys watch Shark Tank,
but Jan, I can't remember his last name,
but he's a super nice guy.
He actually, if you search for a Virtuix Omni on YouTube,
him walking us through a tour of the product
is one of the first hits.
He's a great guy.
He invented the Omni and he was on Shark Tank.
I think his issue was he was asking for too much money
for too small a share in the company
because otherwise I think they wouldn't have been so harsh,
but they basically just said,
I think the lady potential investor said something like,
if my husband brought this home,
I'd divorce him or something like that.
And I mean, I understand that from a mainstream perspective,
but we need, we need guys like Jan
and we need guys building accessories for this
and turning it into more than just a thing
where you put it on your head and sit in your chair.
We need things.
In fact, where'd my stinky footboard go?
We need things that enhance the way
that you interact with your PC,
whether it's the tongue controller
that that Valve employee developed
or the buttocks controller or foot pedals,
all these different ways that go beyond keyboard and mouse
and be on the controller.
That debate of keyboard, mouse versus controller
might just be completely dead in another five years.
And I'm extremely excited to see that.
Anyway, sorry, I hijacked your topic.
Yeah, I know it's all good
because one of the biggest things I've found
with fairly extended use with the Oculus
is when you wanna start doing more things,
a keyboard and mouse is not ideal.
Believe me, freaking love keyboard and mouse.
But when you have an Oculus on your face
and you do a 180 in your chair,
it's not really gonna work out so well.
You can't be like, ah, I got this.
We need wireless Oculus.
We really need wireless Oculus.
We need wireless Oculus for one
or we need some type of cable management system
that can swivel with you.
Oh, okay, where it's like,
oh, you know what could probably be done even now?
And this is gonna sound super dorky,
but think about this.
If you could get like even something crazy
like Edzle's 2600 milliamp power battery pack,
like if you had like almost a backpack-based battery,
whether it's DC or AC,
depending on how you would power all the other stuff,
and then a wireless HDMI kit,
which are actually,
you can get them for around 100 or 200 bucks these days,
that could be a pretty good DIY.
People have been doing concept art of the whole idea.
They've been thinking of backpacks
that were specially made for it
so that they don't stick out way too far.
So they're slimline against your back
and different stuff like that with big flat batteries.
Yeah, brilliant.
So something like that coming out,
better guns, which are more realistic coming out
so that you could have mags on your belt
and you take one out and put it like drop it or do whatever
and then, or put it in your belt
and then take another one, load it in
and that's how you reload your gun.
Stuff like that would be fantastic.
Just all these different accessories,
which will make it so much better.
And then something like an Omni
so that you don't have to sit in this chair
with a keyboard and mouse.
Cause right now that's the most awkward thing,
is not the Oculus,
it's all the other things you have to do with the Oculus
paired with the resolution issues.
So once the resolution issues are solved
and all these accessories come out,
this could be freaking awesome.
Oh man, I'm stoked.
Jeez.
So stoked that you don't even have to get an Oculus
for Christmas to make it the central part of your Christmas.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right.
I'll just bring it there.
Speaking of more extremely exciting news,
Steam OS is available today.
We've actually, we're gonna make this
one of our main discussion points with Anand when he arrives.
So I don't wanna get too much into it,
but we can talk about Steam OS actually.
I mean, I guess it's slightly different.
I'll be talking with him about Steam Box, not Steam OS.
But a Steam Box is just a box with Steam OS on it
and hardware in it.
So anyway, this was posted by Guns Cool on the forum
and the original article is from The Verge
with basically just an announcement
that Steam OS will be available to download
on lucky Friday the 13th.
And beyond that, Valve is shipping out
those 300 prototype Steam Boxes that they had,
whoops, I'm on the wrong scene here,
that they had promised and a few lucky people
are getting a very early look at Steam OS and Steam Box.
Now, to be clear,
they're not really recommending that people just run out,
download Steam OS and then chuck it on any old PC
unless they're experienced Linux hacksaw people
that are pretty good at that sort of thing already
because it is not ready at all,
plus the learning curve will be a little bit steeper
than if you're just installing Windows
where it's just like put in USB, press OK, press OK,
press OK, enter a product key and you're done.
I'm thinking that if it becomes available,
like I haven't seen, if someone has a download link for it,
like I've gone to the Steam OS page
and it says download will be available soon,
I don't know if that's actually where they're releasing it
because it's in beta, so if someone has
the proper download page, if you could tweet it to me
or spam it in chat or something, that would be awesome.
And I might try and see if I can tinker with it
and if I can get it working easily enough over the weekend.
Do you think we should do benchmarks
or do you think we should wait for the official release?
You know what, I am actually less interested
in benchmarking Steam OS from a local play perspective.
Okay, yeah.
And I am more interested in benchmarking Steam OS
from a network play perspective.
So that should work.
It should.
Yeah.
So that, but to me, building the powerful Steam box
doesn't actually make a ton of sense
if network play works well,
which I don't see why it wouldn't.
And we're so close to consumer grade 10 gigabit LAN
that we could be looking at with compression 4K streaming
by the time 4K TVs are really available
and affordable and good.
So with all of that in mind,
I just don't think we need powerful graphics cards
in these things.
So what I would like to take a look at
more than anything else is the latency
of the network streaming.
So I actually, all the things I got today,
I got so much cool stuff today, you guys.
We got a new lens from Sigma.
It's a 24 to 105, I think, 24 to 105 millimeter lens.
It's an F4.
The sharpness should be just outstanding.
Some of their new stuff has been great.
We've got our 4K recorder for the Sony FS700 camera.
So we are ready to rock with a sharp new lens
and our 4K recorder.
So excited about that.
I got, okay, this, I mean,
I guess it doesn't sound as exciting as that stuff,
but this is the one I was about to say
was I got a USB to gigabit ethernet adapter for my shield.
So what's up?
You seem concerned.
What?
The title's wrong, it's all, keep going.
It's not wrong.
Well, okay, I guess we should say we're live now, fine.
So, right, so I got a USB to gigabit ethernet adapter.
So that means I'm gonna be able to run NVIDIA Shield
in 1080p mode on my TV,
rather than relying on wireless and being limited to 720p.
So what we can do is because we just picked up
one of these babies, yeah, that's right,
and because we have a shield,
and because, if you can figure it out,
we'll have SteamOS set up,
we could actually look
at these different streaming solutions,
which I really think is the future.
Not necessarily streaming over the WAN, over the internet,
but streaming to yourself, to all your devices locally
is extremely exciting to me.
Extremely, get it?
Is extremely exciting to me,
and I'd like to have a look
at how all these solutions are comparing to each other.
So stay tuned, guys.
That is definitely something
that we're going to be looking into later.
Okay, apparently we do have a link,
and you can download SteamOS right now.
That's so ghetto, that's awesome.
It's a super ghetto-like FTP,
oh wow, that's amazing.
I love you, Valve.
All right, so let's get into our first headline topic.
I actually don't even,
I don't even think this qualifies as a headline topic.
I mean, come on, man.
Oh, I'm stoked.
But it's more like a rapid-fire topic,
but we're just turning it into a headline topic,
because whatever. Because it's awesome.
All right, so this was posted by Nice Hat on the forum.
Microsoft's new Smart Bra
Stops You From Emotionally Overeating.
Okay, so.
All right, all right, okay, so hold on, hold on.
Let's be mature for a second here, Luke.
Can we be mature for a second?
When I say the word boobies and you laugh,
is that how this works?
I actually didn't laugh at that.
No, but brassiere?
Smart bra?
Nope.
Not even smart.
So smart bra, that's where you draw the line, okay.
So it actually has a control board on it.
It has sensors for detecting your stress levels,
as well as your heart rates.
And okay, basically it's a wearable stress sensor.
You know, okay, I'm all for wearable tech.
And if it did something else,
I would probably be like, oh, that's pretty cool.
But it tells you to stop eating,
which is like, really?
Now, hold on a second.
Now, the claim right now,
so the designer, when asked about a male version,
because it's like, what?
So only women need to stop eating?
Is that what you're trying to say?
Okay, so the designer said her team
did try to develop a version for men,
but that male underwear is too far away from the heart
for an accurate EKG rating.
So basically it'll only work for,
I mean, unless men could wear brassieres,
then it would work in theory.
But then you could just buy the ladies version
as long as they don't make it just sort of pink and frilly.
I mean, okay, wearable tech, extremely exciting.
But I think for now,
to put the amount of processing power into something
to make it legitimately useful,
we're gonna be looking at this kind of wearable tech
or this kind of wearable tech,
and not so much socks and brassieres
and all that kind of stuff.
Okay, if they had a smart brassiere,
so that it could tell your phone your heart rate,
but it didn't bleed out going,
oh my God, you're eating too much.
That would make so much more sense to me.
If it was affordable, okay, that's fine.
Because you could, hey, if it was a sports bra,
you could track your heart rate while running.
Okay, so you wouldn't have to wear any extra stuff.
So you don't mind if it's a piece of athletic gear?
I don't even care if it's a piece of personal gear.
It doesn't matter.
I think it's kind of insane that it's like,
because one, it's gonna go off at all the wrong times.
I already brought this up with you.
You're gonna be in a movie,
you're gonna be enjoying the movie and get really into it,
and your heart rate's gonna go up,
and it's gonna stop eating.
And you're like, you're gonna take a bite of popcorn,
and it's gonna be like, bzz, bzz, bzz.
You're overstressed, stop eating.
Do you think it vibrates?
Do you think it texts your phone?
How do you think it works?
You don't think it vibrates?
It communicates with your phone.
It doesn't vibrate.
You could keep your phone in your bra,
and then that could vibrate.
Yes.
All right.
But yeah, you're gonna be at a movie,
you're gonna be eating, and then it's gonna freak out.
So the original article was from Extreme Tech.
I think I had forgotten to say that before.
Wanna make sure that giving credit where credit is due.
And I don't even, you know what, guys?
Hit us on the Twitter blitz for this one.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's do a Twitter blitz right after this topic,
right after this next topic and before Anand joins us,
because it's, just tell us your thoughts
in 140 characters or less, LinusTech on Twitter,
and I think that's about all we have to say.
So let's do one of our rapid fire topics here.
We actually got quite a few.
You know what, this is something that was news, apparently.
If you press enter right after it, it turns into a link.
Yeah, that's good that it does that,
because that's annoying.
It's a lot better than Excel,
where you have to actually highlight it
into the field of, that's ridiculous.
So this was posted online as Tech Tips Forum,
and apparently I'm on page two, oh no, here we go.
So by Snow Comet, Sony announced a micro USB thumb drive
for Android devices that is small enough
to carry at all times.
It has a standard USB connector on one end,
so you can see standard USB here,
so that goes right into your port,
and then has micro USB on the other end.
It has on-the-go functionality,
meaning that on Android 4.0.3 or later,
apparently 4.4 is not yet supported,
so that's kind of interesting,
you can have eight gigs, 16 gigs,
or 32 gigs of storage available to you.
And the interesting thing to me about this
was that this already exists,
but for some reason, when Sony does it,
it's making headlines, and when Patriot does it,
we're the only ones who apparently know.
We've actually got a sample of the Stellar already,
so if my internet would go a little bit faster here,
I would be able to show that to you guys,
but basically, it's pretty much the same thing,
and it's available in up to 64 gigs,
so Patriot has the jump on Sony for that particular thing.
Speaking of your internet not going fast enough,
we might be getting some awesomeness on Tuesday,
or are we like, we are getting some awesomeness on Tuesday,
or we might be?
We are, they're coming.
We are. They're coming.
We are getting some awesomeness on Tuesday.
They're coming.
I watched The Hobbit last night,
so it's like,
just total flashbacks, that was awesome.
Thank you.
Okay.
So anyway, were you gonna tell them
what's coming on Tuesday?
Well, you know more about it than I do.
Oh, well basically, we have a new internet connection
coming in, it's gonna be 50 meg down, which who cares,
but compared to our five meg up that we have now on cable,
we are going to have 10 meg up on fiber.
And we're probably like the only people
in the area on fiber,
and I think the company that we're going through
doesn't do shared connections.
No they don't.
You should've seen, he's on the phone,
and he like moves the phone away from his house,
or house, head, and freaks out,
and falls to the floor, and is all excited,
and then all of a sudden goes like,
yep, that sounds good.
I didn't know it was a fiber connection, no,
because that service is not fiber in every area.
It just happens to be fiber here?
Yes, because it's ADSL plus in a lot of places,
but they still have that service,
but it's like, you know how it's always advertised,
max 10 meg, but whatever?
Yeah, yeah.
Our area, I called the general line,
and they had to transfer me to the fiber team
in order to get it set up,
like our area's fiber.
That's awesome.
So I'm like super stoked.
I just made sure all your links
were hyperlinked for the future.
Oh, thank you.
So you're ready to go.
I appreciate that.
If your internet was working, that would be fantastic.
I am like super trying to do this,
but I am like super not having a ton of success,
and Patriot's SEO is super not terrific,
so between all of those super things going on right now,
there's not a whole lot I can do
to show you guys the Stellar,
unless I can, there it is, woo, yay.
Oh, really, seriously?
Oh yeah, there we go, there we go.
Okay, so this is the Stellar, you guys.
So just like the Sony one,
it's got a micro USB on one end,
and then it has full-size USB 3,
which is even better than the Sony one on the other end,
available in three different sizes, 16, 32, and 64,
and is on the go ready.
In fact, just as a quick test,
I plugged it into the bottom of my one,
and it worked flawlessly.
They also have the Cosmos,
which is not a USB thumb drive.
It's different.
It is a, please have your site work, thank you.
Cosmos, which is an on-the-go,
so it has USB 2 on one end,
and micro USB on the other end,
SD card and micro SD card reader.
So this one's actually kind of cool,
because you're not just limited to the storage,
it's actually on the device itself.
You could just carry around
like a Pelican case full of SD cards,
and then you could carry all the data with you
if you were obsessive compulsive enough
to actually manage transferring everything
and archiving it all on SD.
So I thought that was pretty cool as well.
All right, so let's see what the Twitterverse
has to say about wearable smart bras.
There's a bunch of people in the chat making fun of us
for being all excited over an internet connection
that is apparently not even that good.
I know it's not that good, but this is Canada, guys.
And it's like twice as good as our current one.
Yeah, it's twice as good as the best plan we can get
from our current providers, so whatever, man.
Still stoked.
Yeah, I mean, imagine if you can program the bra,
as Dimitru here says,
imagine if you could program the bra,
like you can program GPS with different voices
and different attitudes.
That's horrible.
It's like that episode of Futurama
where they reprogram the ship's computer
from being an irritating dude that Bender always argues with
to being a seductive female.
So you could take your bra anywhere from,
you could dial it to supportive girlfriend,
and it's like, hey hun, you probably shouldn't grab that.
And then you could dial it
all the way to abusive boyfriend.
It's like, hey, if you eat one more of those,
I'm leaving you.
That's horrible.
It's sort of horrible.
See, it's just gonna help anorexia, which is not good.
If it just tracked your heart rate and other things
and gave you statistics so you could follow your thing,
if it helped health apps and all that kind of stuff,
that could be really cool.
Hater, hater right here on the stream.
Zorbot's always a hater.
I know, what a hater.
Literally always a hater.
It's a Telus fiber, so I know it's Telus.
So all the promises in the world, we'll see.
But anyway, I bet Bill Gates put a camera in the bra.
I bet he didn't.
I bet he has better things to do.
That would be a lot nicer
than using weird on-the-go cables.
Indeed, Wii Mini.
But I haven't even heard of this.
No one has even talked, hashtag boobies.
Really, that was the best you could come up with?
Apparently, I'm getting Justin through finals week
with this stream.
It's like a chain, man.
I don't think this stream will help you with your finals.
No.
Although if he has scheduled breaks
so that he can stay focused.
Scheduled breaks at 4.30 on Fridays, exactly,
for anywhere from one and a half to two and a half hours.
I was so specific.
All right, oh, there's a better way to download SteamOS
through the unofficial torrent.
So guys, check that out as long as that is, yeah, whatever.
But although it's on steamdb.info.
Yeah, it's probably fine.
Watching from work, I could feel the judgment from you
just leaving the bra picture up.
Yeah, we are definitely judging that idea.
How do you plan to prevent SteamOS spam in the Twitch chat?
We're not. We're not.
It seems to be fine already.
Yeah, I guess Windows and Steam will unite
to provide the world the first game streaming bra.
All right, so basically, people don't have much
to say about the smart bra,
which I guess shouldn't surprise us that much.
All right, so we've got our special.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Finally, one, I believe MS said the smart bra
would be for other purposes.
Health apps are already a thing,
and more data could be useful for them.
All right, so more data for the health apps
that already exist.
Okay, fine, but I mean,
I just don't, the level of,
okay, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
That part I do agree with, though.
Yep.
If it interfaces with your phone
and it helps currently existing health apps,
that totally makes sense.
Yelling at you for eating too much,
I don't think is the right angle.
That doesn't seem like a good idea.
Probably just creating a problem.
So terrible.
All right, so we have a special guest joining us.
Do I have headphones?
You do, they're over here.
You are amazing.
Slick set up the stream all by his big boy self today,
and I am extremely impressed so far
with how well it's working.
Well, remember when you used to set it up
and the audio never worked?
Well, that's because we had the worst audio setup
on the planet.
I love our new audio setup.
If I had enough time,
it worked the best we ever had it working.
It's so great.
Just saying.
Yeah, well.
But this one's kind of nice
because it just kind of works instantaneously.
Yeah.
You have to like spend literally two hours
trying to balance everything.
Yeah, it's great.
All right, I'm dragging him up.
All right.
User was moved to your channel.
I hope he's ready.
I am ready.
Hey, how are you?
Welcome to the show.
I'm doing all right.
Thanks for having me.
This is absolutely fantastic.
So, all right, I'm gonna start.
I'm actually, sorry, I know I just brought you in,
but I actually have to not let you talk
for just a moment here
because not everyone would have necessarily seen the intro.
So guys, I'm introducing Anand from AnandTech right here.
This is his head right here.
You'll be hearing his melodic voice in your heads,
or at least you'll think it's melodic
if you're anywhere near as much of a fanboy
of this guy as I am.
Now, I did an interview of him.
I'm totally probably making you blush,
so it's a good thing there's no video feed.
But I did an interview of him at Computex
that my staff hid the footage from me
and wouldn't allow me to upload
because apparently it was just about an hour
of me gushing about his greatness.
But now we're live,
and so there's nothing that they can do
to prevent this from being broadcast
to the entire internet.
So Anand is the guy who got me into tech
more than anyone else.
I've read almost everything he's ever written,
and I have a lot of respect for this guy.
So normally I ask my guests to introduce themselves,
but I think I've probably introduced you a fair bit here.
Do you have anything else to say?
No, this is like super kind of you.
So no, I have nothing to add.
This is awesome.
And congratulations, by the way.
You've been making waves
and clearly putting in a lot of good work,
and it's good to see that you get recognized for that.
Well, thank you very much.
I think that leads pretty well
into our very first topic here.
Now you were, I mean, okay,
I remember asking you this question,
but I'm gonna make you answer it on air.
You always wear a suit,
even in Taipei in the middle of summer.
Can you talk about the origins of AnandTech
and a little bit about the print to digital media transition
and how you've experienced it and lived through it?
Yeah, totally.
Okay, so the suit has a couple of things.
So I started, when I started the site, I was 14,
and I don't know, my parents always raised me to believe
that when you do something important, you wear a suit.
So I was, I don't know, meeting with people,
and I figured, gotta wear a suit.
So I did that for a while,
and then at some point, I guess I stopped being a kid,
but I kept with the whole suit thing,
because one thing I realized was a lot of the other folks
that were in the industry doing similar things
weren't necessarily doing things as professionally
as I thought that they should be doing them.
So I used the suit as kind of a way to,
at least when I walk in a room,
to help explain that, look, we're here to work.
I mean, since then, the industry's consolidated,
things have calmed down a bit,
but the suit always kind of stayed.
Now, every now and then I do slip up.
Like, I mean, it went, I probably went like a decade
without anyone ever seeing me outside of a suit,
because that's not how I dress at home.
Like, I'm not wearing a suit right now.
Um.
So I kept the facade going for a really, really long time,
and then one time, I think I was speaking at,
maybe at QuakeCon or something like that,
and I remember getting out of a car,
and I was in basketball shorts.
I hadn't shaved in days,
and I think some people from AMD saw me,
and they're like, what the hell is this?
And so since then, you know, I've kind of slacked a bit.
Like, no, I won't wear dress shoes anymore, right?
I'll wear sneakers, because like, I don't know,
I review really cool stuff,
and it blows my mind how they're able to do all of this,
but my feet have to hurt at the end of a trade show,
so I'm not okay with that.
So I ditch the dress shoes.
I'll usually wear the suit a few times.
I'm an old dude now, right?
Like, I'll not wear a tie sometimes,
and just like really slack off.
Okay, so that answers the suit question.
Origins of a non-tech.
Long story short, I was like, I don't know,
my parents are teachers.
We didn't have a ton of money.
I needed a new computer.
My dad was like, hey, just build one,
because back then you could save a lot of money doing that.
I had no idea what I was doing,
so I flipped through Computer Shopper,
pointed at stuff, and we ordered things,
and I put it together,
and of course I shorted the motherboard to the chassis,
so I killed the motherboard,
and my dad's like, you're done.
My mom's like, no, no, no, it's okay.
We'll get you another motherboard.
Totally like piece of crap motherboard too,
had like fake cash on it, the whole thing.
So I built that, and I'm like, hey, this is kind of cool.
I have a new computer, and I learned a lot in the process.
My dad's, he was a teacher at a college at the time,
and other faculty and students were in a similar situation,
so this was like seventh-ish grade for me.
He would like pick me up after school,
and I'd go around and build people computers,
and then they'd have problems with their computers,
so I'd go around and fix them.
So I did that for like two years,
and then 97 hit, and both my parents being teachers,
I had this like bug to want to teach and share knowledge,
so I kind of brain-dumped online,
and that's where we started.
On a GeoCities page, right?
Yep, geocities.com slash,
I think slash Silicon Valley slash Pines slash 9297.
That was the, that was the aura.
Nice.
So yeah, I did that, and I don't know, I was 14.
I didn't know what I was doing.
I just wanted to share thoughts,
and I hadn't really thought about
the whole print-to-internet transition,
and actually, I was doing it for years
when print was still on this pedestal,
and it was just you're the online guys,
or you're the online guy that wears a suit,
and yeah, I mean, it took a while for that transition
from print to digital to really become a holy crap,
we need to do this kind of thing,
and I would say that really probably happened
in the past handful of years,
where you go through the past recession,
where everyone gets hit advertising-wise,
and the print guys got hit the worst.
So I think that's, you could point to that point as,
well, you had better have jumped by now,
because otherwise you're gonna have a difficult time,
or hope you have a lot of money.
So another question I had for you,
I guess so for you, the long and short of that is,
right place, right time, as far as the brilliant idea
of starting up a website in order to get your thoughts
out there about PCs, as opposed to trying
to make a magazine or whatever else, but-
Well, so I would add right place, right time, right age,
because one thing I do is I talk to,
I go around and talk to kids in high school,
that was a very formula period of my life,
and I had a very unique high school career,
where I was in school, I was on TV,
and I was also working with all these amazing companies
and learning a lot.
And one of the things that I like to tell kids is that,
those four years you have in high school,
that's like a free ride, right?
Like you get your work done, but those are your four years
to get your way towards your 10,000 hours, right?
You pick a passion, you pick something
that you don't need to make money with,
that you can just pour all your time into,
you don't have to worry about, hopefully,
like a rent or mortgage payment, you just dive into it
and work towards being an expert at something,
so that when you step foot in college,
you can go to learn and not necessarily go to,
hopefully, one day start building a career.
Right, that's actually a very, very good point
and something I wish I had done a little bit better
on my path, I did not get started nearly as early as you.
So the basis of Anantak at the beginning was, of course, PC,
but over the last few years, I've seen your interests shift
and hence the articles that you're writing,
really shift towards things like home theater,
you went on a bit of a kick,
a bit of a home theater kick for a little while,
you've moved away from PC strictly
to doing a lot of first Mac coverage
and then now iOS coverage, so Apple devices in general,
and where do you see Anantak heading in the future?
I mean, you guys have, I mean, Brian Klug,
if he's anywhere near you, please just yell at him
and tell him how amazing he is
when it comes to phone reviews.
You guys have positioned yourselves through his hard work,
I mean, sweat, blood and tears goes into that
as really in my mind, the premier phone review site,
but what do you think is the next step?
I appreciate that, no, Brian isn't sitting next to me,
he's in Arizona right now working actually
on another phone review, but he's amazing,
like I'm actually really, really proud of our entire team.
So it's interesting, if you look at it through,
you kind of hit the nail on the head there, yeah, right?
Like a lot of our coverage does,
or at least what I do kind of follows my interests.
You know, I was building a home theater,
so I said, hey, maybe I should look at home theater PCs.
And I remember walking into a compiler class in college,
this was back in 02 or 03, I remember walking in,
I guess this was in the college of engineering building
or maybe in computer science building.
So I walk in and I look around
and everyone has a Mac laptop
and I'm like, this is really weird
because for years you wouldn't see that.
And that was actually what inspired me
to go out buy a Mac and start using that.
And that spawned our Mac coverage.
And then from there you set it yourself,
we branched out into mobile.
What is interesting from my perspective
is I don't actually view this as any different
as what we did when I started, right?
Like it's all, we get into compute
when it hits a certain level of sophistication, right?
And, you know, our phone coverage
kind of basically started with the iPhone back in 07.
We had some false starts internally when we said,
hey, you know, how do we grow?
We need other things to do.
And, you know, we messed around
with just kind of more regular phone reviews
and, you know, playing around with PDAs
and windows mobile and stuff like that.
But none of those projects ever really got off the ground.
And then, you know, we kind of tried again with the iPhone
and that did relatively well.
And then, you know, a couple years into it,
we started adding more.
And then definitely over the past,
I'd say three or four years,
we really ramped up our mobile coverage.
But from my perspective, they're all PCs, right?
It's just a different box.
And, you know, it's a different cadence of release, right?
Because we do enterprise reviews as well,
but that's just like a really, really big computer
that comes out, you know, once every year or two.
I mean, I think that's something that,
I think the post PC era is such a misnomer
because the sitting at a desk doing work experience
is not gonna go away.
I mean, this is much like a bit of a back and forth argument
that I've had with my viewers over the last little while,
where I said that the PS4 and the Xbox One
are the last generation of consoles as we know them.
And I'd have people telling me,
well, what, I'm not gonna game on my couch anymore?
No, that's not what I'm saying.
The couch gaming experience is not going anywhere.
It's just that the console is going somewhere.
So in much the same way that the sitting at a desk
with a big monitor and getting real work done
isn't going anywhere,
I think the device that we do it on
is the thing that might just be changing
over the next five to 10 years.
And it's just, they're all PCs, just.
Yeah, and cause that's, I mean,
I would say the same thing on a console, right?
Like if you look at, you know, 360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One,
it's just PCs.
It's their like really weird PCs
that are made by Microsoft and Sony,
but they're just PCs.
And you know, how well Valve does with Steam Box
over the next decade,
I think will ultimately determine
whether or not we get another console refresh.
So let's talk about weird PCs with Steam Box
because that's our next topic.
Very nice segment, by the way.
Digital Storm has given some details
on their upcoming Steam OS slash Windows.
So they're planning to preload both OSs on it
from what I've seen,
but I guess you could probably opt out of Windows.
So this is a gaming box with liquid cooling on the CPU,
up to a 700 watt power supply.
It's gonna be around $1,500,
have a powerful graphics card in it.
And then the other end of the spectrum,
we've got guys like iBuyPower with their $500 machine
that's gonna have, I think it was an R9270
or something along those lines,
like a much more middle of the road graphics card.
Where do you see Steam OS and Steam Box,
which to be clear for the viewers, guys,
a Steam Box is just a computer,
in much the same way that all the other things
we're talking about are just computers,
that happens to run Steam OS.
It's just a box that you bought from someone
that is validated and preloaded with Steam OS.
That's all a Steam Box is.
So how do you see Steam Box fitting in
with the current consoles and with PC moving forward?
Okay, so it's a really, really good idea.
It's actually, I was at a dinner,
like a secret Intel Larrabee dinner,
which I guess I can talk about now
because Larrabee never happened for consumers.
So I was at this dinner.
Is it okay, hold on a second,
is it okay to reveal a secret
that never truly fully got revealed?
I mean, they announced it, right?
It's just, I was never supposed to talk about this dinner,
but I'm gonna talk about the dinner now.
So, and it's not actually,
like it's now I've hyped it up too much.
The dinner, it doesn't, I mean, it was a great dinner.
It's just, it's irrelevant to the current conversation.
The food was good.
Yeah, no, it was actually, yeah,
it was an entertaining dinner.
But anyways, Charlie from Something Accurate,
he was at the dinner and he floats this idea of,
and this is years ago, right?
Like Larrabee timeframe, like pre a lot of stuff.
So he floats this idea that AMD and Intel
should get together, develop a list of specs
and make, develop a little badge program
and make hardware vendors go out, meet the specs
and they can distribute like an OS,
like a little virtualized or like a hypervisor
or something like that, like on a USB stick.
And this would be like a very custom console gaming OS
that would run on this hypervisor.
And you'd have this logo program,
which would ensure that you would meet the right specs
and you could play-
Sorry, can I interrupt you for a second?
Do you want to just explain to the viewers
who don't know what hypervisor is,
sort of what that would mean exactly?
Oh, true, yeah, sure.
Basically a thing that you can run
multiple virtualized OS's on.
So you would run, so like if you have a Mac,
how you can run Windows on it, right?
So like your VMware will be your hypervisor
and then Windows will be your,
if you run Windows alongside OS 10,
like in OS 10 effectively.
But basically you look at it like this
or actually the OS that the Xbox One runs, right?
So it has a hypervisor that runs the Xbox gaming OS
as well as the Windows kernel side-by-side
and you switch between them.
Anyway, so this is his idea and I heard it
and I'm like, this is amazing.
This is exactly what we need to do
because the console model of,
hey, you got a certain amount of money,
you has to go to the publisher,
a certain amount of money has to go to
the owner of the platform.
Like that's all silly.
Like there's no reason to have that anymore
because we have the internet and we have Steam
and Steam handles distribution for you.
And at that time, if you looked at
what was happening to PC gaming,
I remember I walked into a Best Buy one day
and I was like, well, where are all the PC games?
And it like worried me, right?
Because it was kind of, this started happening
right before Steam picked up a lot of Steam, right?
Like before it got really, really good
where you don't have to worry about PC gaming anymore.
And it was worrisome to me.
So I heard this idea and I'm like, this is amazing.
This is the exact way to save PC gaming.
And it was a great idea, but nothing ever came of it.
And then Valve starts talking about Steam OS and Steam box
and I'm like, oh, this is amazing.
This is exactly what he was talking about years ago.
And I believe in it.
I think it's a really, really good idea.
The wrinkle in all of this is,
can you get killer titles ported over to Linux?
And the answer probably is yes.
Sorry, Dan?
I'm gonna argue it doesn't matter.
That's gonna be sort of my take on all this
because if Valve can implement their streaming
the way that they're saying that they can,
if I'm gonna be able to stream 1080p
or a couple of years from now
when we're looking at 10 gigabit home networking over cat six
being something that people can feasibly do,
if all of a sudden we can stream 1080p or 4K
from some other device within the house,
whether that's a Windows based gaming PC
or whatever else it happens to be in the future,
then I would make the argument
that whether the game runs natively on Steam OS or not
becomes irrelevant.
And the Steam box in its best form to me
is almost just a thin client that acts as a streaming box
from whatever else happens to be in your house.
I mean, for me, I think the first thing I thought
when I heard about Nvidia Grid
was not playing games over the internet.
The first thing that I thought was, holy crap,
I'd love to get one of those for like a LAN center
or for my house so that every PC in my house,
whether it runs an Atom with onboard Intel graphics
or whether it runs whatever other high end stuff,
dual GTX Titans is able to have
a fantastic gaming experience.
So that's my take on it.
And maybe like, let me know what you think.
Does it matter, Linux compatibility for the games?
So you may bring up a really good point.
But I, so I separate that from,
cause at that point then you don't need Steam OS, right?
All you need is like a sync, right?
Like you just need a wireless sync for,
that connects to your TV.
And I'm guessing Nvidia has already kind of done that
with Shield and I'm guessing there'll be,
if you play in that space, chances are
you'll want to build a similar device, right?
So that's kind of independent of,
in my eyes of Steam OS being a success or not, right?
Cause like you can build and deliver that experience today,
right? Like there's no, you don't need anything else.
What I'm looking at Steam OS being successful at is,
can you duplicate the console model, right?
Can you get to the point where someone who knows,
doesn't own a gaming PC, like he just runs like Word
on his notebook from 10 years ago.
Can that guy or girl go out and say,
hey, I want this, I don't want an Xbox,
I don't want a PlayStation, I want this,
I don't know what PC gaming is, I don't know what Steam is,
but this is what I want in my living room.
Like, can they get to that point?
And you know, if you,
you were at the Montreal thing, weren't you?
Yeah, I was.
Yeah, so if you listen to, you know,
all those guys up there, Carmack, Sweeney,
they all said, hey, this is a crazy idea,
give it 10 years and you know, maybe it'll work.
If they can get to that ease of use model, right?
I think it could definitely, definitely replace consoles.
The issue though, is if we're talking about a 10 year
horizon before this thing's successful,
that does leave room for another go
from the traditional console players.
If they made it so that there was a version or a model
or a type of Steam box that you could buy
that was, by default, automatically launched
into Big Picture, and just put you directly
into Big Picture and did not really take you out,
I think that could bridge that gap,
but if it launched directly into SteamOS,
it could be a little bit foreign
because you're sitting in Linux, right?
And the other thing that bothers me a little bit,
from Valve, like I understand why Valve's doing this,
because they need to cater to the traditional
PC gaming market, they can't tell those guys,
yeah, hey, I know you thought we were cool before,
but we're gonna lock down Steam box hardware
and there's gonna be one hardware configuration,
there's gonna be a reference design,
just like a traditional console,
we're gonna refresh it every three years or whatever else.
I don't think anyone would have accepted that,
but the issue is that one of the major complaints
that you get from a die-hard console player
is I don't wanna upgrade my hardware every year,
every two years, and I don't wanna worry about
GTX this or Radeon that, that happens to be on the box,
I want to, or inside the box, I want to go to Best Buy,
I wanna buy the thing with the price tag under it,
there's one price tag, there's one thing,
I wanna take it home, I wanna put my game in it,
and I wanna have the experience
that all my buddies are having.
Whereas I think opening up the hardware to just anything
is not the strategy that we've seen work so well
for companies like Microsoft with the Xbox
or like Apple with the iPhone and the iPad,
where it's this tightly integrated experience
that they're managing.
I mean, something that Apple does so well
is no iPhone will ever ship with a crappy wireless chipset
from some no-name, whereas it will be possible
for people to buy a Steam box
with off-brand audio components or wireless components
and have a bad experience and blame it on SteamOS
or on Steam box rather than on the true,
the true culprit, and I think that by trying
to target a less tech-savvy audience,
you open yourself up to that.
So I'd agree with that, but I would say that those are like,
that's something you can easily mitigate, right?
So Microsoft tries to do this
with the Windows hardware approval process, right?
It's just that they set the bar so low
that everyone can play.
I mean, they have to, right?
They're like, no, we need to sell Windows
because otherwise we can't, we need Windows.
Whereas Valve isn't in that position, right?
So if I'm at Valve, you just go hardcore about it, right?
We'll give you, you want this official Steam box logo
or whatever, you have to not ship just terrible hardware.
So I think that's something that you can get around.
Big picture mode, I actually wrote about this
in our G-Sync coverage that it seems like
there are a lot of individual projects
that are out in the PC gaming world right now,
that if we just polished them all up,
we would be very close to a hyper console experience, right?
So something that's even,
it used to be that, hey, consoles, they were simple.
You didn't need to worry about installing your game
and updates and none of that.
But like now-
Remember cartridges?
No loading screens.
No, and now it's like, well, you got to put in the disc
and wait three and a half minutes
because it has to install and there's a disc.
So now it's a very-
And there's an update.
Yeah, and it's not all of the whole premise
of this being an easy to use different thing.
Like it has a web browser now.
It's just, it's no longer what a console used to be.
It's just a managed PC now.
So I feel like if you look at,
you look at GeForce experience, right?
That's a way of abstracting the whole,
you have to define settings, which works, right?
You look at Steam's big picture mode
that gets away from, there's a window desktop,
a Windows desktop in the background.
And then you look at technologies like G-Sync
and now you're getting into this realm of,
well, not only does it look better, have cheaper games
and whatever compared to a console,
but like it's actually also smoother too, right?
Like this is like, this is, it's insane.
So we have all of these like little things,
but all of them need polish, right?
Cause big picture mode is close,
but it's still kind of valve-y, you know?
Not quite there.
And G-Sync is locked down to Nvidia hardware and mantle.
I mean, they're saying it's not locked down,
but I think it'll be a cold day in hell
before Nvidia gets on board with project mantle.
And so all these things, it's just like you're saying,
they need to all kind of come together.
But this segues really well into our next topic,
which is G-Sync.
Now I've got a G-Sync monitor here as well,
the same one you have.
So I've played with it myself,
but I read almost everything you write,
regardless of whether I've already got one
and I've already got my own impressions
of it formed as well anyway.
So I did notice that you were the one
who did the G-Sync article for your website.
Was it because you were particularly excited about it,
or did you just wanna make sure
that it was done 100% right?
The article was great.
Give me your thoughts in, I guess, verbal form,
as opposed to asking everyone
to necessarily read the article,
although they definitely should.
It's only about four pages.
How important is G-Sync for the future of PC gaming
and just for the future of better image quality in general?
Yeah, so I don't know.
There's no big story as to why I was the one that wrote it.
Nvidia was like, hey, we're sending you a monitor.
I was like, hey, yeah, I'm busy.
I have stuff to do.
And now I know you have to, it doesn't, I don't care.
Just take the monitor.
So yeah, that was the long story of that.
So what do I think of G-Sync?
I was kind of expecting it to just completely just suck,
because I saw it in Montreal and you saw it there,
and what they showed was impressive.
I looked at it, I'm like, this is good.
But they showed it in the pendulum demo
and I couldn't really play with it.
And Tomb Raider in that one spot
where you stood next to that one mountain,
and you panned around the character at two different speeds.
I was just like, come on, guys.
Exactly, I'm like, come on, this is not,
so I'm fully expecting it to just be miserable.
And for the first day, day and a half,
that was my experience.
I kind of mentioned it in the review.
I had this Titan system, the Tiki from Falcon Northwest
that I got when the Titan launched.
And dude, the thing was just hard lock
whenever I did anything.
And when I could get it to be stable,
I could totally wipe the machine,
do a brand new install, Windows 8.1, latest drivers,
whatever, and whenever I just, even running benchmarks,
when I could get them to run on this Titan,
they were running slower than the GTX 760.
At first, and I have Dell's 24-inch 4K here,
so I switch monitors and switch the monitors
and all the problems go away, everything's fine.
So at first I thought, well, this thing sucks.
And then I had a GTX 660 Ti on a different test bed.
Plug it in, the thing won't even post.
There's nothing out of the display.
So I'm like, okay, this is really, really bad.
And then, you know, third time's the charm.
I had a GTX 760 from EVGA and worked perfectly.
So when I got to that point, I was really, really worried,
but no, it literally worked in everything.
Like there were no issues.
I never ran into any like weird hiccups
or visual glitches or anything like that.
It all worked and it worked and looked just as good
as it did in Montreal, which was kind of amazing.
It was frustrating to me that the pendulum demo
doesn't let you, it doesn't deal with any scenario
greater than 60 frames a second.
Like I can't do any of the 120 or 144 testing there.
That was kind of frustrating.
But I spent a lot of time playing games,
which I don't get time to do anymore.
So that was kind of cool.
And I don't know, I posted some videos
that kind of show the effect.
It, you know, makes me hate tearing a lot.
And yeah, I thought there was a substantial benefit
to using this versus Vsync on.
Obviously a substantial benefit versus, you know, Vsync off.
Less pronounced of a benefit versus Vsync off
at a really high refresh rate,
which I think that's a key thing for, you know,
any hardcore gamers right now
that are already running at 144 or 120.
There's still an advantage.
It's just not nearly as pronounced as it is at 60.
Well, to me, the issue here, sorry, do you mind?
No, no, go for it.
Okay, to me, the issue here is a couple of things.
So number one is that Nvidia shipped
their G-Sync evaluation monitor.
And it's a 1080p panel and it's a 144 hertz panel.
And I don't find it much the same way
that you didn't see as much of a difference there.
I don't find that at extremely high refresh rates,
it is as huge and night and day of a difference
as it is at, you know, 60 frames per second.
And Nvidia knows that.
And then number two is that because it's only
a 1080p monitor in modern games with a decent graphics card
because the pace at which graphics cards
have been improving in performance
has really begun to slow down,
even, you know, a last generation card like a 660 Ti
can run most modern games and not really worry too much
at dipping below 60 frames per second
unless you're cranking up details
that begin to not really affect image quality
unless you're doing side by side screenshot comparisons
and peering at them with a magnifying glass.
So to me, the issue is that they shipped completely
the wrong product to showcase it.
And I think that if they had shipped a 1440p panel,
so something that can actually,
if there's something that runs at a resolution
where it's going to demand more of a GTX 780
or a GTX Titan than it can provide
and dip below 60 frames per second once in a while,
and if they had stuck with a 60 hertz monitor,
I think it would have made for a much more
impressive first experience.
So.
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
I mean, one, I'm just not a fan of this panel.
Like, it's just not a, like it's okay with games.
It's just not a, I mean, and part of it,
it's a cheaper display, right?
Well, it's not, but.
Well, yeah, I know, but it's not like a, you know,
it's not like a $600 display, right?
Or a $1000 display.
So, and again, for games, like whatever,
you get lost in it, it's fine.
So, I wasn't a huge fan of the display they chose.
My guess is it was probably one of the easiest
to kind of retrofit, and even if you,
I actually, I want to take apart one of the ones
that isn't a G-Sync monitor,
because I don't know if you saw,
on the inside of it, it's got an NVIDIA branded PCB.
Yeah, I did see that.
So, I don't know, because like they,
you know, the whole thing is,
well, we just replaced the scaler,
but at least in this display, they replaced,
like, it looks like they replaced just,
there's this entire PCB that they've changed,
but I don't know if the original also
was designed by NVIDIA,
so that's something I'm curious about.
So, I had the same conversation with them.
Sorry, hold that thought.
I had the same conversation with them on the phone,
where I actually,
because I've had a lot of people asking me,
Linus, are we gonna be able to mod our existing monitors
and add G-Sync functionality to them after the fact?
And what Tom said was,
well, I guess you could,
but you would basically be soldering
and like building a connector harness
out of the interface for the panel itself,
and then connecting the G-Sync hardware
that's inside your existing monitor,
and like you'd be doing this weird Frankenstein thing,
but when I opened it up, it looked,
aside from just lining up the wires here
and making sure that you don't have anything crossed
and anything configured incorrectly,
it looked very possible.
Yeah, so that's why I'm curious to see
what like a normal one of these monitors
looks like on the inside,
because I don't know about yours,
mine was like the, all the hardware,
the scaler board and the NVIDIA,
like motherboard that it plugged into,
that was all just like taped in place.
Yes.
There were no screws, it was just tape.
So, I don't, I'm just really curious to see
what the unmodified ASUS display looks like.
So yeah, no, I mean,
for folks who haven't seen it before, right?
Like the sweet spot for G-Sync is somewhere in that,
for me, I found it to be like 38 to 60 frames a second.
Whereas normally when you're running V-Sync on
at a 60 Hertz panel,
you start dropping below in that range
and start getting like this really,
really variable frame rate
that's out of sync with your monitor,
you do get this judder, right?
Like it's clear that,
whatever you walked into a room
where there's just like really detailed paintings
on the wall and stuff, right?
Or like there's just tons of foliage outside
and you get this judder
and you just kind of deal with it.
And then with G-Sync in that exact same situation,
it kind of feels like 60 frames a second.
It kind of does actually.
It was, I mean, you tried it, right?
Yeah, no, it feels really good.
It feels really good, yeah.
That's not the kind of show we're running here, man.
Yeah, I know.
That's what I thought I was calling into.
I just talked about a bunch of really boring stuff.
He said he wasn't in a suit.
He's ready in his PJs.
Like he's in his-
Yeah, it's like, what are you wearing over there?
Dude, the suit is like long gone, man.
I just got back from a trip, man.
That thing is, it's done.
It's done.
No, so I agree.
Like they picked an interesting panel.
I was able to find a bunch of games where even on a 760,
dropping below 60 wasn't an issue.
But what I found is just the experience is terrible
if you drop below 30.
Like it's just, it gets real bad.
So you really need fast enough to be above 30,
but you need the optimal combination of settings
and hardware to make sure you're always in that sweet spot
for this to do anything, right?
You know what's funny?
Sorry, go ahead.
You can finish that thought,
but I have another thing to add
to the vsync on versus gsync scenario.
Okay, yeah, no, all I was gonna say is this actually,
what Carmack said,
I think he was the one that said it on stage,
resonates really well with me now
in that game developers no longer have to target 60, right?
Like they can be okay dipping down
to some of these lower,
and that's assuming that this is something
that's supported by more than just Nvidia.
But I think that's where a lot of the potential is.
That, and it's a good way of dealing
with the stupidly high resolution displays,
which formerly you needed to have basically
whatever the most expensive buy Jensen a new Ferrari
kind of or kind of exact kind of cards were.
So my whole thing on the vsync versus gsync
is I agree with you completely
that it helps with the stutter,
which it does and that's great and it's fantastic.
But for me, my biggest problem with vsync
isn't really stutter
because I tend to run very high end hardware.
So even from a high end gamer perspective,
something I think Nvidia isn't talking about enough,
maybe because they don't know how to quantify it,
and maybe because such a small subset of their customers
will even be able to relate to it
because it'll only be the high end guys.
But to me, my big problem with vsync
has always been input lag.
I can feel it, particularly in some game engines
where Left 4 Dead was the first game I think
where it really drove me absolutely bananas
to have to choose between the terrible tearing in that game
and the terrible input lag that for whatever reason
is present in that particular source based game.
And I just couldn't play with vsync on
because the delay was so substantial.
G-sync means the lag goes away
and Nvidia doesn't seem to be talking about that
in the right way.
Do you see that as a major benefit
and are they missing the boat here?
No, so I agree with you.
That's something actually I wish I had more time
to deal with.
So I was at some other meetings
when the G-sync monitor arrived
and I got back basically, I don't know, Sunday morning.
And then I killed the first day and a half
trying to figure out what was wrong with the thing.
And then that left me with basically two days
to deal with all of this.
So I didn't get to go in depth into input lag,
but I know that's a big component.
I think it's a question of which end do you attack?
I think the cell they have here with the,
hey, this makes everything smoother bit,
I think that's a very experiential cell
that applies to a very wide audience
or a very broad audience.
I think, and I think a lot of what Nvidia has been doing
has been trying to go after that,
almost the console gamer, right?
The person who doesn't really know
or understand what's going on
and they're not playing competitively.
But they're going after that market.
And I think reducing input lag is a definite advantage.
But I think, like you said,
that tailors to a slightly smaller niche.
Right.
One analogy I liked using for G-Sync actually,
and it's not perfect
because Project Butter introduced V-Sync to Android
or it used V-Sync, so it's not perfect.
But what Project Butter did for the Android side of things,
I see G-Sync doing for the PC side of things,
because beforehand there was all these drawbacks
and different things you could have to make it faster,
but then it would look kind of gross.
It was never very smooth and it was never perfect,
and Project Butter just launched them forward
in that direction.
Yeah, because it was almost this intangible,
wow, my phone just feels like butter.
And I mean, G-Sync is, yeah, butter for the PC.
So you can't actually really use it
because Project Butter brought in V-Sync,
but I still like using it because of the general idea.
So, next topic is Haswell-E.
Now, this particular site
that has the Haswell-E leaked specs,
they've been known to be right once in a while
and not necessarily right all the time.
So it's anantech.com.
We're gonna head over, no, I'm just kidding.
So, this is- It's mean, it's mean.
This is actually posted by Digital Nav on our forum,
and the original article is from WCCF Tech,
but have you had a look
at the sort of these leaked rumored specs,
and what are your thoughts on Haswell-E
versus what we have now, which is IvyBridge-E?
Do we need eight core on the desktop?
How important is this even?
So yeah, I actually, I didn't realize this had leaked yet.
So I didn't pay much attention
to how accurate or inaccurate it was.
They actually had Haswell-E running in IDF,
at IDF last year, or crap, this year still.
They had it running just as a DDR4 demo.
So samples have been out there,
so I wouldn't be surprised if people got wind of it.
How important is this gonna be?
The whole Sandy Bridge-E, IvyBridge-E,
and looking at Haswell-E,
that's just a really weird family of parts to me.
What I want is something in between the two
that I don't have to use a weird socket to get to.
And I think we might get that with,
it sounds like they're gonna do socketed Broadwell
and bring CrystalWell on board,
but I'm guessing they won't improve CrystalWell at all.
It'll still be the same thing we have today.
But I don't know, I'm more interested in that personally.
Do we need eight cores on the desktop?
Yeah, if you're doing a lot of really,
really heavy professional video work,
I can see that being very, very exciting.
I'd be fine with it if it weren't out of sync
with the rest of the desktop stuff.
I don't like this whole,
yeah, you can get something that's a little better,
but it's a year out of phase with everything else.
You've got smart response here,
you've got quick sync here,
but you've got more cores there and more RAM there.
This fragmentation or the segmentation
or whatever you wanna call it really bothers me,
and I guess that's pretty much
what you're alluding to right now.
Yeah, I'm just not a fan of it.
It is what it is, you can't,
because this is effectively a server part
and they're just kind of making a desktop version of it.
So it's nice, obviously it'll improve over IvyBridgy.
We already know what Haswell can do
in terms of a per core IPC improvement.
So I- Overclocking will be mediocre,
all these things we know already.
Yeah, it'll be a better platform at least.
Which will be nice.
Like there's, X79 is kind of old now,
so it'll at least take care of that.
But yeah-
SATA three ports, yes, finally.
Yeah, I'm just not a fan of the trade off.
For me, I would wait for Broadwell desktop,
it'll be cheaper and likely be close enough.
Although eight cores is nice,
I won't hate on that too much.
Fair enough.
All right, well, I think that's pretty much
all the time we have, I don't wanna keep you too long.
I think we kept you 10 minutes over time as it is,
but maybe just if you wanna give the-
Oh my goodness, I realize we don't have
our guest thing up there anymore.
If you wanna give the peeps a way to find you,
if they're interested in whether it's your written work
or your Twitter or whatever else,
we'd love to at least drive a few more followers your way
if people enjoyed your presence on the show,
and I certainly did.
I think that the viewers have been teasing me
in the Twitch chat the entire time for fangirling,
but I don't care, I'm proud of it.
So just go ahead and let them know where they can find you.
Okay, cool, yeah, no, thanks for having me.
You can find me sometimes at anandtech.com,
that's A-N-A-N-D, T-E-C-H.com,
or on Twitter, which is at AnandShimpy, A-N-A-N-D-S-H-I-M-P-I.
And yeah, congrats again on everything, man.
You've been doing a good job, and thanks for having me on.
Thank you very much, all right, until I see you next,
I'll probably run into you at CES somewhere,
so I'll come say hi.
Yep, I'll be just completely demoralized and just tired.
Me too, man.
Yeah, yeah, CES is happening.
All right, man, good luck.
I know, I've been booking all my meetings,
and I'm looking at my calendar, and I'm just like,
how the hell am I gonna get to all these places?
Oh, you don't, you can't, you're just eternally late.
I'm already late to my first CES meeting.
That's just, you just have to assume that that's the case.
You embrace the lateness, and you'll be okay.
Nvidia's really mad at me,
because I think I'm missing their thing, because.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I wasn't planning to be down at the show that early,
so when they sent out the save the date, I just kind of,
I meant to send back an email that said I couldn't make it,
but instead, I was just like,
oh, well, I'm not gonna be there,
so I guess I just won't RSVP when the time comes.
And at that time, they hadn't really been engaging with me
as much yet either, so I just,
I really didn't think about it that much,
but at the Montreal event,
we kind of synced up a little bit more,
and sort of decided that we needed to do more together,
and then, so anyway, in the meantime,
having not thought about that save the date,
AMD asked me to be at their thing,
and I kind of went, oh, well, I'm not gonna be there,
and they said, oh, well, don't worry about it.
We'll cover your extra hotel,
and we'll cover any fees to change your flight
or whatever else, we really want you to be there,
and I kind of went, oh, okay, well, sure.
So now, Nvidia reminds me about that thing,
and I'm like, oh, I'll be there,
but oh, I'm gonna be at AMD's thing,
because they're covering my hotel.
I can't not be there, so that's real awkward.
They were like, really?
We sent you a save the date weeks ago, man.
I'm like, ah, I'm sorry.
Yeah, that's not gonna go very well.
They'll probably have you beaten or something.
Yeah.
In Vegas.
I hope they at least use the bar of soap
so that I'm not all bruised for the rest of the week.
Yeah, they'll just, they'll toy with you emotionally.
That's usually how it is.
They'll toy with you emotionally with a bar of soap.
Or it might involve soap and other, I don't know.
Anyway, okay, I'll talk to you later, man.
I'll see you at the show.
All right, dude.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
All right, so guys, that was awfully fun,
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Before we move on, I wanna quickly go through
my favorite moments of the Anand Linus meeting version two.
Really?
That's how you're gonna be about this?
Wow.
That was the most glorious, fantastic,
incredibly shiny intro we've ever had for anyone ever,
which was the like, I love you, please don't run away
because I love you so much intro, which was amazing.
I don't think you've ever asked someone
if you could interrupt them before.
And then after doing that-
No, I do usually just talk over them.
Yep, and then after that, you then interrupted him,
but paused for a second, you're like, oh, I'm sorry.
Like, is this okay?
And then he said, yes, and then you kept going,
which was fantastic.
And then later on, you went to go interrupt him,
but then stopped yourself and said,
oh, I wanna bring this up later, but you can keep going.
It's okay, and then drew back,
and I thought that was just fantastic.
And then once it was over, even though it had gone overtime,
you made it continue, which was just, it was just beautiful.
I wish I still had, do we still have the footage?
I don't know.
I'm actually not sure.
I don't know what they did with it.
They hid it from me.
If we still have the footage,
I might leak some of it on the after party tonight,
but I'm not sure if we still have the footage.
Wow, that's how you're gonna be about this.
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It's funny because last week on the show,
when I was like, yeah, it'll probably be WD,
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They basically hadn't replied to my email.
So I got on the phone with them this week and I was like,
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And they're just like, oh yeah, okay, I guess so.
Sure, yeah, yeah, we'll take it, we'll take it.
So I also have something pretty exciting to tell you guys
about WD's present at the show, presents at the show.
They are doing a WD Fan Night, which you can only get to
if you hear about it through someone
that they're affiliated with.
Basically, this isn't just on the WD website, okay?
You have to hear about it somewhere.
Spaces will fill up if you're planning to be at CES,
if you're planning, so if you're gonna be down
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you can register at wdpromotion.com slash WD Fan Night.
And there's gonna be creative professionals
such as renowned Sports Illustrated photographer,
Peter Reed Miller, professional gamers,
Skara and ODE from Team Dignitas,
artist Drew Brophy, musician Mike I. Paris
from the band OAR or I don't even know
who any of these people are.
I live on like another planet where all that exists
is work and my baby.
He's always like, oh, why do you think I'm like
out of tune with society and stuff?
And then if you go back and watch the Omni video
when he's like, Converse?
No one's seen Converse before.
Because I don't leave my house, okay?
Or this place.
Anyway guys, check it out, WD Fan Night.
I'm pretty sure I'll be there, I think it's on my calendar.
That's Tuesday, January 7th, let me check my calendar.
So guys, please only sign up if you're actually
going to be in Vegas during that time
and you're actually planning to go there.
So you don't wanna take away a spot from someone else
who could otherwise be there.
But yes, I will be there.
I will be there on WD Fan Appreciation Night.
So that's gonna be pretty cool.
Okay, so I think without further ado,
I don't have any topics to further ado right now
because for some reason in my awe of Anand
while he was on the show, I closed my topics doc.
So go ahead and find our next one here.
Splurged out the topics doc somehow.
Either way, we can do consumer
versus enterprise hard drive reliability.
So I believe.
The article was such BS, unfortunately.
I mean, it would have been great if it was real.
So.
Well, it's real.
It's real, it's just not scientifically valid in any way.
So this was tweeted to me by Austin at topnotch PC lol.
Guys, to be clear, tweeting something at me
is not the best way to get an article featured on the show.
Please post in the new section of Linus Tech Tips forum.
But sometimes I do happen to see things on Twitter
and they do make their way into the doc.
So backblaze finds enterprise drives fail
more often than consumer hard drives
is the extremely incendiary headline of this article.
So I'll let you tear it apart.
I think they're just mad to be completely honest.
I'm assuming that's where that's coming from.
They're like, oh, why are so many failing?
Let's rip them apart.
Because they have to understand
that the way they did this was not entirely true.
And a lot of the quotes that are in this
are directly from backblaze's blog.
That's a lot of Bs.
Backblaze blog, blooper.
Like it's directly in there where it's like,
well, do you think reliability of these make any sense?
No, the sensationalized part is in backblaze's blog.
So that was kind of interesting.
The sample size is not okay.
There's 368 enterprise drives
and there's 14,719 consumer drives.
Where is it?
Where was the failure rates?
I thought you put it in the doc.
I thought I did too.
So apparently 17 enterprise drives failed over two years
and 613 consumer drives failed.
Then they broke it down to percentages
and found that 4.6% of the enterprise drives failed
while 4.2% of the consumer drives failed.
But there's a big problem with that
which you outlined here perfectly.
Which is where if one less enterprise drive failed,
they were almost equated for percentages.
And if two less failed, it was like a chunk better,
like 2.2% better.
Which is like, no, to be able to do an actual study
like this, you need one,
the sample sizes need to be the same freaking side.
And two, they weren't tested in the same environments.
Yes, they were tested in very different environments.
So the enterprise, basically the only real conclusion
that we can take away from this
because the enterprise drives were tested
in a much heavier workload than the consumer grade drives.
So all we can take away from this
is that enterprise drives,
when being used in their intended workload,
which is much heavier,
might fail about the same as consumer grade drives
when used in a lighter workload.
Which is like, what hard drive manufacturer
wouldn't have freaking told you that?
There was even some more wonky stuff too
because the enterprise drives had nicer,
more padded enclosures, but not by much,
but then were worked a lot harder.
And then the consumer drives had not as good enclosures
that had a little bit more vibration,
but then weren't worked as much.
So like there's even more weird variables
that you're throwing in.
So many variables.
Yeah, so one thing, one good takeaway from this in my mind
is that holy crap, consumer drives don't fail that much.
Yeah, that was cool. That's really cool.
Cause we use consumer drives in our server.
Yep, we use a lot of refurbished ones.
No, no, there are no refills in the server right now.
Okay, that's good.
Although our storage expansion upgrade that's coming soon,
the working drive for 4K footage
is probably gonna be refurbished drives.
But it's a working drive.
But it'll be RAID 10.
Okay.
So it's not gonna be reliant on,
absolutely no drives can fail OMG.
So I'm gonna throw a RAID 10 in there
of three terabyte refurbished drives.
Cool, but yeah, this article is not really right
in my opinion, but it's still an interesting thing
to look at and take the percentages,
not really a hundred percent to heart,
but you can look at it still and just,
I don't know, maybe be a little bit more confident
in your consumer drive and just make sure
that it has good padding.
You're probably good to go.
All right, so this one, apparently I screwed up
and let me just make sure that there's nothing showing
on my screen right now that's going to be a problem.
I don't think so.
Does my Hangouts matter?
I can sign out, right?
It shows the names.
Okay, there we go.
Let's hold on, let's scroll down.
Should be fine.
Yep.
There's probably going to be something
I don't see anything.
Okay, so here we go.
All right, so screen share time, guys.
This was a PM someone sent me.
Please post in the news section of the forum, please.
Anyway, here's a panel.
So this is on the subject of the Dell 4K 28 inch monitor
that's actually less expensive than the 4K 24 inch monitor,
but uses a TN panel.
So someone, I don't even remember who it was
because they didn't post it on the forum.
So someone said, here's a panel someone on G found.
It seems to match up pretty well
with what we know about the 28 inch monitor
Dell's releasing for under $1,000.
It is a TN panel, but it seems to be a really good TN panel.
So it has wide color gamut, 10 bit color depth,
although I've seen six bit TN panels
that are definitely not as good as six bit IPS panels.
So let's be real clear.
More bits is not necessarily
the most important thing in the world.
60 Hertz refresh rate, which makes sense,
and 80 degree viewing angle.
It would make sense for it to be a TN panel
since it's only $1,000,
but it might not be that bad after all.
So there it is guys, the N280DGJ-L30.
And the specs look like they are potentially not that bad.
Oops, sorry, sorry, sorry.
I, what the?
You somehow.
Oh wow, what have I done?
Okay, hold on guys, bear with me for a second here.
Where is it?
Okay, wow, not sure what happened there.
Okay, anyway, we're back.
Um, so to be clear, good TN panels exist.
They're still not.
The one uses a TN panel.
The viewing angles are excellent,
the color reproduction is excellent.
So they do exist.
They are slower than the overdriven TN panels
that we find in products like that Asus monitor
that both Anand and I agree,
which of course fills me with much, much wonderment.
Both agree isn't very good
because it's overdriven to refresh 144 times a second
and still give you a crystal clear image.
That means they just can't do as much
with the quality of that image.
So a good TN panel might not necessarily
be as optimal for gaming.
It might not be as fast, but the viewing angles
and the color reproduction might actually be okay.
So I'm pretty excited to see what Dell has up their sleeve
with this 28 inch 4K monitor.
Cause in my mind, 24 may actually be a touch too small
to even justify 4K.
I mean a 2560 by 1440, 24 inch, that's not bad.
It'd be hard to pick out the individual pixels.
Huh, I'm not sure.
Well, I'll have to like compare them.
Yeah, I guess that's-
To be honest, I'd have to see them close up.
All right, we're digging into my email again.
Do you have another topic you want to do?
Maybe a rapid fire topic while I dig this up?
I can jump onto one, if you give me one second.
Some of the rapid fire topics got all messed up,
but we can jump into the Xbox One thing.
Ah, yes.
Cause this is hilarious.
So trolled.
So apparently someone released an image,
which we can maybe hopefully get on screen here soon,
which it looks fairly official.
Like it's not super well done, but it's okay.
It says Xbox 360 backwards compatibility unlock.
By default, Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
is disabled on Xbox One.
To unlock it, follow these steps.
One, go to the system menu.
Two, press left button, right button,
left trigger, right trigger.
I know, but we might be doing podcasts soon.
In order quickly, select the developer console,
check the enable dev kit box,
change sandbox ID to freezone.reboot,
which is where you should start thinking
this is kind of bull crap.
Six, select reset home console,
and then it says Xbox 360 games
will now be playable on your console.
The problem is it will just boot loop infinitely
because you put it into reboot mode
where it will just continuously reboot
and will never actually really do anything.
Essentially, breaking your Xbox One.
Breaking your Xbox One.
But wait, it gets better, folks,
because that's not all from this week.
We also have a da da da da da da, troll number two.
Which is even better, in my opinion.
Which is actually even better.
Did you know dot tumbler dot com.
Any iPhone can be charged in the microwave oven
15 to 25 times faster than the charger that came with it.
Try it now.
Plug your cable into the iPhone.
Put your iPhone in the center of the oven
and coil the cable around it.
Step three, set the timer in the oven for 10 to 20 seconds.
Step four, you now have a charged iPhone.
This works because microwaves use the same principle
as wireless charging pads by rearranging
the electrons in your phone's battery
to gather at the negative terminal.
Remember to leave your cable plugged in.
So there are some yahoo answers,
posts with folks being like,
hey, I tried it, is there any way I can fix it now?
And the answer is no, unfortunately.
I love how the best answer on that one's like,
dude, you zapped your phone.
It's like, yeah, no, you screwed up on that one.
Not gonna work out for you at all.
Yeah, that is a crying shame right there.
All right, so I'm ready with this next article
that's in my email, supposedly.
No, no I am not.
Hold on, I'll be ready in a second, though.
I'm almost ready, I'm almost ready.
Should I try and grab something?
Apple Smart Watch is rumored to be coming
in October 2014 and will apparently support
wireless charging.
I guess I kind of said the whole thing.
I was just gonna say, is that the whole topic?
That's the whole topic.
Is there more?
Okay, that's pretty cool.
What was the original source again?
I can't remember.
For the Apple Smart Watch?
Yeah.
They have been right about stuff in the past.
That was our forum.
They've also been wrong about stuff in the past.
So the original poster was Japetti?
Joe petite?
Joe petite?
Yeah.
And the source is tweakers.net.
All right, so let's go ahead and hop over
to Linus' screen where Samsung sent me
a pretty awesome email about their Rapid technology
being available on 840 Pro SSDs now.
So if you already have an 840 Pro
and the 840 EVO came out and you were like,
Samsung, hey, hey Samsung.
Hey, what's going on?
Why don't I have Rapid technology?
Because Rapid is cool.
What is this?
Rapid allows you to use your RAM
to accelerate your storage subsystem.
It can use up to a gig of your RAM at a time
and it's awesome and it works.
But it was only available on Samsung,
your consumer grade drive, not your pro grade drive.
What is this?
So it's now available for existing 840 Pro owners
or anyone who buys that SSD in the future.
And they've also enabled some new trusted computing thing
on the 840 EVO, which I'm sure is important,
but I'm not as interested in that as raw performance.
And finally, they have a one terabyte M SATA SSD now.
So it's an 840 EVO, meaning you have support for Rapid,
meaning you have support for their, you know,
awesome data migration utilities and all that great stuff.
And you have a one terabyte of storage in a notebook.
Pretty sick.
Which is just bawling.
My favorite part about M SATA SSDs is like,
they're like that big.
Yeah, I know.
They have so much ridiculous amounts of storage on them.
I know, it's amazing.
It's kind of like those SanDisk USB drives that we had.
I showed you those things, right?
Where it's like literally the size of the connector.
Like I put it in, I'm like,
how am I supposed to get this out of the port?
And it's like 64 gigs.
It's like, where'd you put that?
And we have SD cards now from Kinks.
Oh no, we have a micro SD from SanDisk as well
that is 64 gigs and can do like 45 megabytes per second
writes and like 90 megs per second reads.
It's ridiculous.
Flash storage, it's not the end of development
and improvements there.
I know we're dropping a lot of frames, guys.
There's not a whole lot we can do about it right now.
I've been talking to the Twitch chat
about all the different problems and whatnot
that are going on with the frames.
We're good, I think.
We'll make it through.
So I think we covered all of our main topics for this week.
Do we have anything left?
We have some stuff, but...
This is hilarious.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is actually slightly older news, guys,
but check this out.
This is from holycaw.altop.com.
140,000 VHS tapes
from 1977 to 2012
were found in storage, all right?
So basically, Ms. Stokes, this lady, died at age 83,
and at some point in 1977,
she decided that she was going to tape all the news ever.
So she planned her life around it.
She would feed six-hour tapes
into the news channel recorders late at night,
and then she'd wake up early the next day to change them
or conscript family members to do it if she wasn't home.
She'd cut short meals at restaurants
to rush home before tapes ended,
and when she got too old to keep up,
she trained a younger helper named Frank
to run the various recording equipment.
So it is potentially the most,
ah, the most complete news recording archive in existence,
and it's on 140,000 VHS tapes.
And who's gonna deal with that?
I'd have to imagine.
It has to end up somewhere.
You can't just throw all that history away.
I know, but like, who's gonna?
Because that's amazing.
I know, but who's gonna do it?
I don't know, like.
And okay, one thing that I don't know if this is true.
Maybe the oatmeal can inspire people to do it.
If he can build a Nikola Tesla museum,
then maybe he can do this.
Maybe.
The oatmeal, if you're watching,
which I know you aren't.
He's not.
No, it's way too cool for us.
I love the oatmeal.
Okay, if we can get the oatmeal on this show,
then during his entire guest segment,
I will, like, I'll go behind the couch,
I will take my underwear off,
and I will wear them on my head.
For the entire guest segment, okay?
If someone can convince the oatmeal
to come and be on our show for half an hour,
because I would fangirl out so hard.
Would you fangirl out as hard as you do with an ant?
He hasn't had as much of an impact
on the direction of my life as an ant,
but I think he's awesome.
Well, no, he has.
I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today.
I know.
You know what?
Screw you.
He hasn't had this profound impact on my life.
He hasn't driven me to do great things.
In other news, the Nexus 5 has had a silent hardware.
We weren't even done talking about the last topic.
Oh, we're done talking about it now.
Nexus 5, this was posted by Joe Petit, Joe Petit,
I don't know, man.
Joe Petit on the forum has had a silent hardware revision
that actually addresses one of my major complaints about,
well, two of my major complaints about the device.
Number one is that they have expanded the speaker grills.
See, they're bigger now, so more sound in theory.
Number two is they have updated the buttons
to be harder to press and more clicky,
a little bit more tactile.
This might have seemed like a petty complaint,
and I think some people didn't like this
in my Nexus 5 review,
but to me, having buttons positioned
so that when you go to press one of them,
you accidentally press the one that is opposed to it
on the other side of the phone is a big usability problem.
Accidentally changing your volume all the time
or whatever else is a problem.
I don't like that on the HTC One as well.
That's one of my major complaints on this phone
because the lock is up here, the volume is here,
so the way a right-handed person
might hold the phone to unlock it is like this,
and you often mash that volume button,
and they don't stick out far enough,
and they're not hard enough to press
for you to really feel it,
so I thought that was a valid complaint,
and I was right because they fixed it.
Either way, how would you feel
if you were a Nexus 5 owner?
Actually kind of gypped.
Kind of owned.
Because if I like,
Gypped is actually a bad word.
You may not even know that.
No.
Yeah, because it refers to gypsies.
They're pretty much,
there's an insane amount of words
that are actually terrible,
and people use them every day.
Did you know that referring to someone as a young buck
is actually disrespectful as well?
It was like an insult for Native Americans,
if I recall correctly.
Yeah, there's like 10 billion things.
Someone said that in my grade 10 social studies class,
and the teacher flipped out,
and she had no idea.
She was like, what?
And she's like the nicest girl in the world,
like one of those just like super nice girls.
Why would she flip out?
She obviously didn't know.
He was kind of an interesting guy.
He's just crazy?
Yeah.
All right.
I'm not gonna talk about former teachers on the show.
They might be watching.
They probably aren't.
I would.
I like a lot of my former teachers.
Mr. Thompson, Mr. First, Mr. Trattel.
Probably none of them are watching at all.
Definitely not.
Probably none of them are watching at all.
But that would be awesome.
Isn't it sad that they don't know how famous you are now?
Actually some of them do.
Do they?
Cool.
So the Pirate Bay is going to be making
domain names irrelevant.
They've actually switched domain names twice
in a matter of days,
and their new system is going to allow them
to get around domain takedowns by,
well, implementing the Pirate Bay
within its own web browser.
Whoa.
I didn't read this topic.
I just assumed they had some other thing going on.
That's crazy. Nope.
So this was posted by Guns Cool on the forum,
and the original article is from techynews.co.uk.
I think it's.co.uk.
I'm assuming the browser will update,
and then if you type in Pirate Bay,
it'll just automatically bring you to whatever the, wow.
So it says new system will make domain names irrelevant.
So something, something, something, et cetera.
I actually don't understand.
I'm not a web developer or anything like that,
and I'm not sure exactly how this works.
But the Pirate Bay has revealed
this switch to piratebay.pe is a temporary switch.
The team is working on a BitTorrent-powered browser
that will enable users to store and share files
with other users without requiring a central hosting,
thereby eliminating the need for domain name completely.
So the actual sharing of tracker information
will be done peer-to-peer in much the same way
that the file sharing is already done peer-to-peer,
so there will be no one to go after, in theory.
Could they just use a lightly modified version of Firefox?
So a quote from the article is,
once that is available, all links and sites
will be accessible through a perfectly legal piece
of browser software, and the rest of it will be P2P
with no central point to attack via the legal system.
I think, I don't know if they're going to,
but I think they could just lightly modify
the open-source code for Firefox
and just easily have this highly updated,
really well-performing browser.
So isn't that fascinating?
That's smart.
I don't like, they might be making their own
from the ground up, I have no idea.
I haven't read this article, unfortunately,
although I'm super interested now
and I'm totally gonna read it.
I added this at the last minute, I actually didn't tell.
I was just posting links on my phone.
I know, I saw that coming in, I was just focused
on editing the other video.
So that's fascinating, eh?
That's super crazy.
Score one for the pirates, potentially, here.
Like, how do you get around that?
Because, yeah, it could just be a button on the browser
that is just automatically updated
and directed to the site, or like, there's so many,
or it doesn't even have to be a website at that point.
The browser could just directly interface
with it automatically.
Like, holy crap.
Yeah.
That's good, because there's stuff like this.
There's been like browsing applications, like views,
I guess you could technically say,
but it still interfaces with websites
that actually manage everything.
It's just a browser that accesses those websites.
This way it would be, oh man.
Yeah, I know.
It's like mine, huge deal.
They just won the game, the game, the game.
For now.
The game, I'm trolling people.
Oh, all right.
All right, well that's it, guys.
Thank you so much for watching the WAN Show.
I hope you enjoyed it.
Wow, we're ending somewhat on time today.
And we started on time.
Yeah.
Besides the dropped frames, which hopefully
we'll have addressed next week
with our new fiber optic uplink.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Super stoked for that.
That's gonna be awesome.
So, take care, guys.
Thank you again for watching.
And what do I usually say at the end of this show?
I think it changes all the time, actually.
Does it change all the time?
And then we usually end up talking
and then just randomly ending the broadcast.
Big thanks to our sponsors, Hotspot Shield and Intel,
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Corsair, and Western Digital.
How long until CES?
Someone says unsubbed, unfollowed.
Well, sorry, man.
Is it because I forgot what to say at the end?
How long until CES?
Is it a month?
Less than a month?
Like three weeks?
Yeah, it's coming up on like the third.
Yeah, it's like three weeks.
We're gonna die.
Oh my God.
All right, peace out, everyone.
Okay, bye.
Oh, what the?
Oh, what?
Come on!
Oh, that means that.
It's not done.
Is the volume even gonna be right?
What are you talking about?
I'm putting on our intro thing.
Oh, the volume's not gonna be right.
Can you just play the other scene?
I don't think, is it in there?
No, you moved it.
No, I moved it from this one.
I think we're done here.
Okay.