What's up guys? Welcome to the WAN Show. We've got a great show lined up for you this week.
The best.
Man, the EU Digital Markets Act. It sounds super boring, but could be an absolute game changer.
Actually spicy.
Can you imagine sending a message from your signal app to someone else's iMessage app?
Pretty crazy.
What else we got this week? Oh yeah, Microsoft and Okta were hacked by Lapsys,
but some arrests have been made.
Yeah.
And the culprit isn't who you might have thought.
Really?
Well, depending. Okay, but we'll talk about it.
I 100% did, but okay. V7 fake profile AI detector. Actually sounds like it could be cool. Deep fakes
are picking up pretty heavily lately. There's been some really crazy ones and this should be
able to detect them, which is very interesting. I think it's got to be this next one down here.
Huh?
The one that I highlighted.
Really?
Yeah, come on. That's a main topic, isn't it?
Is it? Okay. Linus wants to shout out Ukraine selling invasion timeline NFTs,
which is another NFT topic.
NFTs for-
Talking about every week just by not liking them.
Maybe?
That's, I mean, that's fair enough.
I don't know. I don't know.
I was going to say Intel introduces new ATX PSU specs, which is-
No, I think Riley being a character in a video game is more interesting than that.
That's pretty cool. That's awesome, actually.
All right, let's roll the intro.
That's sweet. Thanks.
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Okay, that was a little broken. Good thing I read it out verbally.
Works.
Why don't we jump right into our first topic for the day, which is, of course, lttstore.com.
Okay, but seriously, though, we have hair scrunchies now.
Oh, hey, those are out.
All right. Yeah, lttstore.com. Okay, no, but seriously, our first topic of the day is the EU
Digital Markets Act. This is a huge flippin' deal.
The EU Parliament on Thursday reached an agreement on a package of laws called the
Digital Markets Act to curb technology companies' anti-competitive conduct.
It's so obvious.
Okay, oh, man, I want to start a new-
Hot takes!
No, no, I want to start a new streak with no spicy take.
No, you already did.
No, no, but it is so infuriating, dealing with Apple apologists or really any big tech
company apologist where they go, oh, but the benefits are blah, blah, blah. No, they told
you the benefits are that. The real benefits are this and that's it. That's actually it.
And anyone who wants to try to justify like, oh, man, the Epic versus Apple thing was one
that was particularly frustrating because on Twitter, people would just have these long
back and forths that I'm tagged in or they would send me these long tweet threads about
how, you know, bad Epic is and how they're only in it for the money and this and that.
And it's like, no, you just obviously do not understand the issue. Anyone that argues against
right to repair or free and open competition is just incorrect because if you are anyone
other than a significant shareholder in that company or an executive of that company, there
is nothing in it for you. There is literally nothing in it for you to anti-competitive
behavior. You want competition, the more, the absolute merrier. And apparently the EU
parliament has figured it out, which is kind of amazing because they certainly don't get
everything right.
I would also like to say that it's cool that this legislation is applying to what they're
calling gatekeeper companies that have a value of over 75 billion euros.
Billion euros or an annual sales of 7.5 billion euros and 45 million monthly users and platforms.
That note and platforms is kind of odd.
Well, and platforms, I think probably has a specific definition.
Yeah. Just dropping it there. Floating is a little interesting, but basically it seems
like they're just trying to target actual big dog players.
Yes. Which is kind of nice because some of these, I think they shoot a little too low
into companies that are still extremely in the small business range and then it's kind
of rough for them to deal with it sometimes. But companies at that size, of course, they
can absorb basically whatever. So yeah, sweet. Try to make the world better.
So the proposed rules would require ensuring interoperability of their instant messaging
services, basic functionality. I mean, this is something we should all be outraged didn't
happen. I mean, was it leaked communication? I think it was leaked communication from Apple
where they talked about interoperability between iMessage and other messaging apps and not
doing it in order to increase friction for abandoning the iPhone.
Yeah.
To make sure that parents wouldn't buy nice shiny iPhones for themselves and cheap Android
kicker phones for their kids to make sure that they have iMessage, which has always been
kind of baffling to me why anyone gives two hoots about iMessage. It was really cool for
like a few months because you could send text messages over data.
Every time we talk about it, some people come out of the woodwork and-
Tell us how stupid we are for not thinking iMessage is amazing.
Yeah. And then all the reasons that they list, I'm like, oh, I don't care.
Could not possibly care less.
Yeah, I don't know.
So we know, and to be clear, there's no way that it's only Apple. Don't kid yourself.
Oh, yeah. It's just an easy example because there was that leak.
Especially now that they're all data-based, not like in a database, based on data rather
than SMS, especially now that they're all based on data, there is absolutely no reason
that they couldn't operate compatibly with each other.
There's going to be some weird stuff. Like Apple has that-
Like Animojis, for example.
They have certain features.
So, well, the thing is too, though, that if they are forced to be interoperable, then
Apple could say, okay, look, yeah, the processing's on you. But an Animoji is just a short video.
I'm not 100% certain how it works.
Yeah, that's what it is. So basically it scans your face with their 3D dot nonsense.
Oh, okay. And it's just massive.
And then, yeah. And so you can make facial expressions. It records that and then sends it.
So Apple probably has an abstract, because they can assume that all of the assets are available
on the other device, Apple could probably do it with very little data transmission.
But if Apple were to say, okay, yeah, well, we'll process it into a video, but it's on you to
download and decode that video. That's your problem. You store that on your servers.
That's a way that it could be interoperable.
I also wonder to what degree they have to be interoperable. Because you could send a message,
but then have certain features not necessarily work. Because I'm sure live streaming to someone
from a Discord chat to a iMessage chat would probably be pretty complicated.
And potentially sending an Animoji the other way efficiently might be kind of
annoying or complicated or whatever as well. But you could send text messages,
which is the bulk of both of those platforms anyways. So does that count as interoperability?
They're technically working together, just not full features. I think that would be fine, personally.
Bluefderp says, every time someone SMSes me and tells me to use WhatsApp, I reply via SMS
and tell them I don't use Facebook slash metaservices. I mean, yeah, okay, why don't
you tell them to use Telegram or Signal then? Like the point is that you don't need iMessage.
Nobody needs iMessage. Yeah.
Okay, also the ability to opt to use other safe App Store alternatives. That's huge.
That's exactly what Epic Games was going for with their lawsuit. So if this goes through,
if Apple is forced to open it up in the EU, if nothing else, legislators in other parts
of the world would have to take another look at Apple and Google for that matter,
both Apple and Google's behavior around their App Store and Play Store.
Yeah, this would be sweet.
Yeah. The right to uninstall preloaded apps. Like this is just such an obvious list of things that
no consumer should oppose. So this isn't just applying to phones, right? So this would apply
to Windows? That's pretty interesting because Windows 7 is getting real gross, just to be honest.
It's almost like the legislators might be actual people who actually use these freaking products
and have the same bloody frustrations that we do. Why do I have to have an app that I do not want?
There is no good reason for it other than, F you Linus, that's it.
Sorry, I just lost the internet for a second, but I'm back. Yeah.
Yeah. The rules would require businesses to be able to access data that they generate.
Now that one, I'm not 100% sure of the meaning of.
Yeah, me neither. And why is it just businesses?
Yeah.
Because I believe there's a certain amount of like, you can request
your data from platforms as a person. Was that not afforded to businesses?
That I don't know.
I'm not certain.
Advertising transparency with tools to verify ad reach. Okay, that's super cool because
I remember the handful of times that we played around with boosted posts on Facebook.
As far as we could tell, there was just no real rhyme or reason to it.
Sometimes you'd spend a little bit and get a lot. Sometimes you'd spend a lot and get a little.
And I just was like, okay. And it almost just feels like they're taking
like a behavioral conditioning approach to it where you spend a little bit and it gives you
a lot and kind of gets you. Yeah, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.
Right? Because obviously it's in their best interest to optimize the amount of money that
you spend on advertising and find that perfect balance where you won't stop spending money.
So it's effective enough, but not too effective because, well, there's only a finite amount of
inventory, a finite number of eyeballs. So as someone who's been on both sides,
you've essentially bought advertisement through Facebook, like you said, and I know there's been
purchase advertisement outside of that, I believe. And a big part of your business is creating
content that gets ads on it. Do you think this will help? Because we've been talking for a long
time about how YouTube has always been in this weird space where traditional advertisers are
like, podcasts? Yeah, podcasts are great. But then YouTube has just been like weird.
They don't really want to sponsor YouTube for some reason. Do you think this might help?
Um, no, I don't think so. Because Google and YouTube in particular already do a pretty
excellent job of overall transparency. But I mean, this would apply to...
I shouldn't have been so specific about YouTube.
Can I clarify? It's not overall transparency. Transparency with respect to advertising
impressions and things like that, at least on the YouTube side. I know that there's been a lot of,
I know there's been a lot of nonsense around like, you know, you'd see websites back in the day
that had like 25 banner ads at the bottom of them. And it's like way below the fold,
and nobody ever saw it like, okay, sorry, carry on.
Yeah. So I shouldn't have been so specific about YouTube, because
you guys make content on Instagram and TikTok. Oh, yeah, I guess Facebook and everything else.
Do you think it would help? I doubt it. I doubt it. I think that influencer marketing is
already pretty well accepted by most brands. I mean, there are exceptions.
I'd say that when you when you get into really like stuffy, slow moving industries, like,
I remember the first time we talked to a tool company, or rather, I should say,
I remember the first time we didn't talk to a tool company, because they, you know,
just had absolutely internet. What's that? Oh, my.
As far as I could tell, they were they were still sending POs by mail, like it was just ridiculous.
And I wouldn't be surprised, you know, YouTube, who would watch YouTube?
Lots of people. Right. So
I success or Yeah, it's really hard to say. I think you just have to wait for,
you know, marketing summits and people to just kind of figure it out. Sure. Yeah,
I think it's reached a critical mass already. No more self preferencing. So Google can't put
shopping service at the top of each search results. I don't do that too much these days.
Well, they shouldn't do it at all. They definitely sell a lot of search results
way more than I feel like they did in the past. I've started shifting to DuckDuckGo.
Yeah, because higher above the fold is just ads now.
Google has become less efficient genuinely. Like I'm not necessarily switching there for
privacy reasons or whatever else, which is great. And I'm happy that they have that.
But I'm switching because it's literally faster because the Google results are just Yeah,
an entire page response is really frustrating. Companies would also be barred from combining
personal data for targeted advertising without consent. Wow. Platform owners can no longer
require app developers to use certain services to be listed in app stores. So that would include
payment processors. So you could use your own payment processor. Notably, Google is trialing,
allowing Spotify to use a third party payment processor on the Play Store. Of course,
this shouldn't be a trial. This should just be no, you actually just have to do that.
If they have the means to use their own payment processor, then like,
Yeah, sweet. It needs to be it needs to be open and competitive and allow app developers fair
access to supplementary functionalities of smartphones. This is a really interesting one.
And obviously there's going to be something more recent, but I'm reminded of when I think it was
the gyro in one of the very early iPhones that was locked off from developers early on.
Do you remember that? And there was a whole controversy around that.
I don't remember what part it was, but I do believe I remember this. I don't know. There's
been a lot of way to show topics. Guys, let us know, let us know in the float plane chat,
if you can think of an example of a supplementary functionality of a smartphone that developers have
not had fair access to. And when you think fair access, you could think of it in terms of that
it is being monetized by the first party company in a way that third parties cannot compete with.
Ah, NFC on the iPhone says jacks. Yeah. It has NFC on it, but Apple's like,
that's our NFC. Oh, okay. You don't get to use it. Yeah. NFC. That's a really great,
yeah. Really great examples. So stupid. The current currently relevant. Yep. And they would
have to inform the European commission of their acquisitions and mergers penalties for violations.
This is where things get really interesting. So good. This makes me so happy. I don't know.
Okay. Go for it. Could be as high as 10% of annual global revenues or even 20% for repeated
infractions. Which is good because so many times when something happens, it's one of these
companies, they get the most minute slap on a wrist that they like genuinely don't care about.
It reminds me of when like people shower some like super hyper rich person in praise for donating
money to something. And then they do a calculation and they're like, Oh, if they have an average
income, this was like literally $8. And it's like, okay. It's like, it feels like that. It's like,
Oh, they got, Oh my goodness. Facebook got fined for a million dollars. It's like, yeah,
Facebook doesn't care. It's like, you gotta hit them harder. Probably made a million dollars
while you were talking about it. Like it's. Yeah. Like you got, you gotta, you gotta get harder
than that. So this is good. This might mean it's actually enforced because a lot of things are just
ignored because the it's, it's more convenient and sometimes literally cheaper to just pay the fee.
And that's stupid. So I'm happy it's expensive. Wording of legislation has yet to be finalized.
There was a few things in here that felt a little vague. So that probably makes sense.
Uh, it will be approved by the European union parliament and council, uh, later,
I guess if passed, if passed, it would go into effect in October.
Our discussion question here. And honestly, we'd love for you guys to join us in the chat and
talking about this is which of those things are you most excited for? Honestly, it's hard to
decide. They're all amazing. I think because of my particular context, uh, being able to use like
outside, uh, payment stuff in app stores is pretty huge because that's big for a float plane in
particular. Beef fire just outed themselves as, um, someone who doesn't get it more government
control. You'd think Canadians would have learned. No, this is a government body stepping in
to reduce corporate control. Everything here is about loosening an iron fist.
How is it not clear? Like this is one of those things. I just don't get it. How can you oppose
being allowed to remove crap you don't want from your devices when companies are valued
in the hundreds of billions, they have control over something and companies as a rule being
forced to make their products interoperable. How can you oppose pro consumer legislation
because they won't do it on their own. That is the role of a government to make sure that things
are operating as they are supposed to for the benefit of the citizens. Come on. Oh, I just,
yeah. Other than the end platforms quote, which we're still a little bit unsure about, this is
applying to companies with a value of over 75 billion euros. Yeah. Like, yeah, good. This is not
applying to the average person. Exactly. Exactly. Silence brand. Skate boy 208 says I'd like my
rights back to own my device inside and out. Yeah. A hundred percent, a hundred percent.
It just makes me, it makes me angry when people just buy into the propaganda like that.
And honestly, I don't even necessarily blame the individuals. Like the right to repair,
the right to repair argument is so full of nonsense that it is legitimately really hard
to filter out the BS. Like you've got companies talking about how it will destroy the very fabric
of the universe if we- If farmers allowed to fix their own tractors, which they've been doing
forever and are extremely good at it. Exactly. Man, if you ever want to go down a rabbit hole,
make your way into farming YouTube. It's not the kind of tech that some of these supposed,
you know, hicks or whatever you take your, your stereotypical farmer as portrayed in the media.
A lot of these folks are nothing like that. They are as tech savvy as anyone, smart as a whip,
like just, yeah, I love it. The kind of tech that is making food growing more, more scalable
than ever is just amazing. One of the things I've always found interesting in that space
is the mixture of kind of old and new tech. So they'll take like old school, non-computerized,
like this is, this is like how the world works style, like physics tech, which farmers have
been using forever. And they'll mix it with like monitoring softwares and all this type of stuff.
And it's just, it's so cool. I don't know. I think it's awesome. Really smart stuff.
Apparently Rossman recently uploaded a video about Maryland denying to even review a right
to repair bill. And it's just, just sickening. Yeah. I mean, you can, you can just absolutely
tell where legislators are in the pocket of these corporations. And I don't understand why we are.
It's, it's especially frustrating when I see that it seems to be particularly one political group
that gets really angry about not having the right to do whatever they want sometimes, but then
doesn't worry about not having the right to do whatever they want in other cases.
And it just seems to, this applies to both sides. Exactly. Exactly. And so it's so.
So if you're getting offended by this, you're probably self reflect.
You're probably everyone. And it's, it's just so frustrating because it's just,
how hard is it to have some consistency? If you're, if you're, whether you're,
I'm just trying to think of examples for both sides so I can kind of cover my butt here.
Ah, you know what? It's not coming to mind. Yeah. It's not coming to mind easily. So I'm
not going to bother, but you should be just as outraged about not having the right to
repair your device as you are about not having the right to anything else that is your personal
property. That's one of, that's one of the foundational, that's one of the foundational
principles of Western society. Like it's the right to own property. It's like right there.
It's fun fact. We actually don't have that like at all in Canada, which is, which is interesting.
There's a few, yeah, there's a few things that I think a lot of Canadians think we have because
they know the American law. And then you look into Canada, it's like, Oh nope, not a thing.
Yeah. I love it. I don't love all of it. I'll say that much.
Yeah. So I haven't, I haven't picked a regulation to be most excited about. I think if I was trying
to think big picture, you know, I would, I would say, Oh yeah, it's, you know, the advertising
transparency and tools to verify ad reach and companies being barred from combining personal
data, like, you know, like privacy, things like that are really huge steps that would benefit,
benefit people as a whole. But if I'm thinking personally, man, I got to really like,
So there's some comments about that. While you think about that, there's some comments about the
being able to use our own payment processor thing. My ideal way to do it. And actually
how we mapped it out originally when we decided to make apps for FlowPlane was to have Apple pay
and Google pay be a part of the payment processor suite in the app. Because to be completely honest,
it's just extremely easy to use them. And some people would rather take the ease of use of being
able to press essentially one button and just have it work. But it's going to be more expensive
because they are really expensive. They are so expensive that we would literally make nothing
if we use them because we try to not take too much. So it's just, it's not feasible to use them
now. You know what, if it came down to it, I would offer it as an option, but it can't be the only
option. And we would have to scale up the price so that we still made some amount of money that
isn't allowed. There's been some saying that it is allowed and then we do it and then we get taken
off the store and then we get back up and then they call us and they're like, Hey, but you're
allowed to do it. And I'm like, Hey, but we did it and you blocked us. And we ended up in this
infinite cycle forever. So not really, it doesn't really work, at least not for us.
So I don't know, being officially allowed and have it be enforced by the EU would be cool because
then we could have both options on the store. And one is just going to be a little bit more
expensive and we're not even going to scale it up. We're only going to scale it up by exactly the
amount of difference that it costs us for us to use that service. That's it. We're not going to
try to profit more off of those things, but it does cost us more to use them. So it'll cost
users more to use them. Bacon Dragon points out this isn't even all they have. They're working
at a sister built digital services act. So watch out for that. It's kibloo says, does this have
anything to do with anyone not living in Europe? Absolutely. Anytime you see momentum, it will
build once you've got these kinds of consumer rights in Europe, the excuses that companies
like Apple and Google and Microsoft can come up with to continue to behave in an anti-consumer
manner, start to run out pretty quickly. You know, how, how do I as, as a, as a, as a spokesperson
for one of, for Facebook, how do I, with a straight face, stand there and speak to an
American legislator or a member of the public or a media outlet and say, oh yeah, we simply
couldn't do X when it's already working across the ocean completely fine. Cause it will, it's
not worth it for them to completely pull out of a market the size of the EU, which is one of the
things that can be very powerful about a block like that. To be clear, I'm not saying that it's
perfect. I'm just saying that it can be a benefit. Quick clarification. Someone asked when you talk
about Apple pay and Google pay, you mean purchases through the app store and Google play store,
right? Well, no, they shouldn't be synonymous. That's the whole point. But that is what I mean
is purchases through the store. I, I, I understand there's, you can use whatever, but yeah, so I'm
talking about through the store, they have specific pricing for that. Um, also someone
pointed out like Twitch has higher pricing on their app than on their website. It's like, yeah,
when I try to appeal it, I am not allowed to use examples of other apps that do it the other way.
It is specific. I'm specifically not allowed. When, when they called me, I brought it up.
Cause I'm like, I have you on the phone so I can say whatever I want. And I listed like a bunch of
different apps that do it the right way. And they're like, well, we'll look into that. And
I'm like, to be clear, I'm not trying to get them in trouble. It's just clearly a double standard
giant billion dollar company can do what they want. And we can't yet again, problem annoying.
Oh man. Uh, Naki, uh, 1119 says you didn't mention that Apple's response to,
uh, you didn't mention Apple's response that Safari is an essential part of iPhone
functionality. It sure as heck isn't man that Microsoft has tried that argument so many times.
Why do they get away with it? Why does anyone get away with it? No, it's an app. It's a web browser.
That's what it is. So frustrating. I can't pick a favorite one. I'm having a really hard time with
this. You know what? I'm going to go with the right to uninstall preloaded apps there that
enhances my privacy because there's no reason for any of those apps to phone home. It declutters my
device. I like it. I think it's a big, it's just that one in particular is just so black and white
cut and dried obvious that nobody should object to it. If you object to it, I don't know what to
tell you. I would probably more strongly consider moving off of pixels if that was a thing.
Yeah, for sure. Cause that's been my biggest. I hate that stuff. And that's pushed me away
from using other phones a lot. Uh, Conrad mentioned in Twitch chat, uh, Twitch subscribe
is $5 Canadian on desktop and it's $7 and 90 cents Canadian on mobile. That's the type of
scale we're talking about. Yeah. The app payments are rough dudes. It's like not okay. Delvin FR
says Samsung forcing the install of one drive when Samsung cloud closed was so annoying. Agreed.
Agreed. Man. Oh, it's too bad that the ensuring interoperability bit.
Oh, it's, it's too bad. That's only instant messaging services because how awesome would
it be if Apple was forced to allow you to back up your iPhone to Dropbox or Google drive or
whatever you want? Why do they have the right to tell me where I can put my data? They shouldn't.
It doesn't make any sense. And don't tell me, Oh, boo. Who Apple? Apple needs their cloud revenue
in order to survive. No, they don't. They're doing fine and they would do fine without it.
And if they actually had to compete, then it would be a benefit for everyone because
your iCloud backup would have to be competitively priced. Stop simping for bill. And what if I don't
want, what if I don't want a cloud backup? What if I just want to back up to my NAS at home?
More interoperability is good. It's good. It's great. We should always agree with more
interoperability and more open standards. Cool. Steely boy in flowplane chat says,
what about online retailers that charge a service fee for using a new payment method,
i.e. adding a new card? I've literally never heard of that. I have never heard of that before.
Never heard of that before. I don't even know if that's a thing. I've never,
how would that even work? Anyways. Huh? Okay. Should we move on?
Yeah. Yeah. Let's move on. Let's talk about the, uh, the lapses arrests.
Do you want to talk us through this one? Microsoft and Okta. I've never actually
tried to pronounce that out loud before. So I'm going to say Okta hacked by lapses.
Uh, some arrests have been made sort of. We'll talk about that in a little bit.
On Monday evening, lapses stated on their telegram channel that they gained access to some of Okta's
proprietary data. Uh, Okta's CEO, Todd McKinnon said that the, uh, data is from a hack that was
from two months ago. The matter was investigated and contained by the subprocessor. And he said
that it was no breach of the company's service. It was through a, uh, support engineer's laptop.
They got limited access to data lapses disagrees is the short and firm answer. Uh, they're claiming
that the, that Okta is downplaying the severity of the breach, which in this scenario could be
really bad. Um, they're saying that they were able to log into a super user portal with the ability
to reset the password, um, and multi-factor authentication of roughly 95% of clients. Um,
oh, that's really bad. A massive oof. Um, Cloudflare CEO, Matthew Price has said that they
are aware of the compromise and will be, or sorry, that they are aware of the compromise and they
will be resetting Okta credentials of employees who have changed passwords in the last four months.
Uh, we don't use this at any of the things, just so you know. Um, also, also on Monday lapses posted
a bit torrent link to an archive reportedly containing a source code for Bing, Bing maps and
Cortana. This group is just going nuts over the last little while. It's been crazy. Does anybody
want the source code for how not to create a dumpster fire? Oh my. Um, okay. Anyways, bleeping
bleeping computer reported that there are 37 gigabytes of source code. That's a lot of code.
That's a lot, a lot of code. Microsoft says we are aware of the claims and investigating,
which is very noncommittal, but that is what it is. That's what it's going to be. On Thursday,
it was reported that seven suspects aged. So this was the part you were surprised. Yeah,
I was surprised. I am not at all. Okay, fine. Yeah. On Thursday it was reported that seven
suspects aged 16 to 21 16. Yeah. And like pwning Microsoft and Nvidia. Yeah, absolutely. They were
arrested in London and later released while the investigation continues. That's why I said the
sort of part they have been released at this time. Uh, the main notable character is a 16 year old
from Oxford. The online tag being white or breach base, uh, who has allegedly accumulated over 300
BTC through hacking activities such as SIM swapping. Uh, they were hacked twice apparently
and gamble the bunch losing most of it. Um, they were ousted apparently by rival hackers who posted
uh, private photos of white with their family along with name, address, date of birth and
education. Also known as dogs. White got doxed. Yeah. Lapsus has stated that they might be quiet
for awhile as some members are going on vacation until the end of the month. Vacation you say? In
a party van. Um, okay. Discussion question is who's next? Should we make a bedding pool?
At this point they're just cleaving everybody. Who knows? It could be anyone. This group is crazy.
Um, they're on quite a terror. I don't remember anything like it. This is pretty legendary. I'm
not gonna, I'm not gonna lie. Okay. Don't glorify it. Legendary doesn't mean good. Just like how
great doesn't mean good. It's a scale. Okay. A scale is. But we all agree that halo is best
on legendary. So I think there's a connotation there. Okay. Okay. I don't mean by that. I don't
mean good, but the, the, the it's, it's impact is very large. They're, they're hitting many things
and they're hitting them very hard. They're hacking many Gibsons. Yeah. Okay. All the
Gibsons. All the Gibsons. Unreal. I am very interested in this fake profile AI detector.
We really needed something like this and I hope competitors crop up and I hope it becomes a big
thing because like, so check out this profile, you know, to the, to the human eye, this looks pretty
for perfectly legit, right? Okay. Yeah. It seems like a pretty good quote. Got lots of connections,
including some mutual connections. Would I click accept if someone had multiple mutual connections
and looked like fairly real like this? Yeah, maybe. But this is just an AI generated random
person from bits of averaging bits of other people pretty much is what we're looking at here.
And these kinds of fake profiles have become a real problem. So it's could be bots trying to
sell you something or much worse. So Alberto Rizzoli, co-founder and CEO of V7 Labs,
reached out to us about a Chrome extension that his team developed to help combat this problem.
It's not enough meat for a full LTT video, but we definitely did want to
talk about it and share it with you guys. The extension can apparently quickly determine
with greater than 99% certainty whether a profile picture was AI generated.
That's pretty insane. That is so cool.
That's cool. They don't, to be fair, these accounts don't only use AI generated profile.
No, but when it's not an AI generated profile picture, it's a lot easier to do a reverse
Google image search and find out, OK, am I being catfished, let's say, in a dating context or,
you know, is this person does this model actually know that someone is using their profile picture
on LinkedIn or whatever? Very easily end up being a feature of this service or a competing service
in the future where they go, hey, this photo is used by this many other profiles. These
other profiles uploaded it first. Maybe take a glance at this for an example of how these,
you know, these AI generated people don't necessarily look weird in uncanny valley.
We're going to head to this person does not exist dot com. You can generate a random human face in
one click and downloaded it. All are AI generated fake person photos, man, woman or child. Check
this out. Would you know that that is not a real person? No, she looks like an inmate. But other
than that, looks real to me. Because they have an orange. This guy looks like every tech bro
programmer ever. The most generic tech bro of all time. Yeah, I've done this before and it's
kind of stunning. I mean, happy graduation, right? When I when I first heard about this,
I was just like, there's there's no way. And I did a bunch of reverse image searches on like
a ton of them because I was like, they got to just be scraping this from somewhere. But yeah,
they're generated. It's how real does she look? Yep. Pretty real. Like even got little subtle
asymmetry and like the lines around the eyes and stuff like that. It's madness. Madness.
Oh, it's taking a minute this time. This is actually I think a bunch of people are hitting
the site. Yeah. Okay. You know, what would she think of this? Okay, wait, we just got the same
one. What? No. Whoa. Whoa. I guess they did them like ahead of time. They must have. Yeah. All
right. There you go. Yeah. Luke, is your screen still up? Yeah. Luke and I both have the same
AI generated person. I wonder if there's any differences. Doesn't look like it.
Oh, that's pretty funny. All right. Cool. Oh, whoa. Way to be Luke. Now, one problem that I
foresee with the V seven fake profile AI detector is that one of the most, um, I don't know if
effective at a very effective and pretty well understood. Now, uh, one of the most well
understood ways of tackling a machine learning problem is using what's called adversarial
adversarial neural networks, where you will, you will, in order to make your fake less easily
detectable, you will actually create another opposing AI that is designed to detect your fake
and that will improve the abilities of your fake. So if they're 99% effective, wouldn't a great way
for me to improve my fake profile picture generator be to spit out a thousand, 10,000,
a hundred thousand, a hundred million profile pictures, find out what works about the 1% of them
and then eliminate whatever isn't working about the rest using this extension. It's not like V
seven or any potential competitors would just fold at that time though. It becomes an arms race at
that point. And, and so far it's mostly been, uh, an arms race with one side and now there's
two sides, which is good. That's about it. Yeah. Apparently the page has overload protection and
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down below. I want to talk about our new items on lttstore.com. Sure. All right. So would you
describe yourself as too wet right now? Uh, yes. Yes. All right. Do I ever have the solution for
you? Oh, you'll be far, you'll, you'll be far less wet as soon as I do this. Oh, stop. Okay.
But for reals, if you are too wet, the towels try an LTT store towel. I genuinely didn't see that
coming. I was trying to beat you to it. I loaded up the store and saw it on the store. Oh, that's
nice. Yep. Only the finest, finest cotton towels. We've got them in three different sizes. We've got
the small for small towel needs. We've got the, uh, the medium for medium towel needs. Uh, do
you want to hold up? I think you've got the medium. I guess go, go back there a bit or
something. I don't know. You can, you can help, help model the towels. It's pretty big. I can't
tell that might be the big one. Okay. I think this is probably the medium one then. Yeah. That's,
that's definitely the large one. Uh, yes. So that's the medium sized one. I mean,
that one's also pretty big. I don't know. Lloyd likes big towels. So we went with big towels.
They've got kind of a short circuit actually huge. Yeah. It's, it's more of like a beach towel
at that point. It's got like a short circuit inspired kind of thing here. And then I think
he was kind of going for like a, a GPU or something. It's like, that's like the slot
or something. It doesn't matter. The point is the cool towel, very absorbent. And we've got a
variety of colors. Hey Luke, check out this color. Nice. And this color, that's the same color. It's
the same color. Just chill. Just chill. Nice. I don't know. Oh, it's just the really big. Yeah.
Yeah. It's the beach towel one. That's like redonkulous. Yeah. It's more of like a,
it's more of a blanket. Oh no, it's just the one end of it. Oh, all right. Nevermind. Okay.
Nevermind. So, uh, where is it here? Yep. We've got orange and green. The small one is $14.99
and the big ones are both $19.99. We've got the dimensions on the store. You can see them here.
They're yep. They're towels. 100% cotton. Very absorbent. When, when you do your, uh,
your hot tub stream, you'll have a towel. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Once I've got a hot tub.
We did, by the way, try to do a more vibrant orange and that's just part of the product
development process around here. We got a lot of orange dye on a lot of things.
So these were as vibrant as we could make them while not having them bleed ridiculous amounts
of, of dye. So these will be, these will be, I'd say your first wash. I would wash them in your
darks and maybe the first couple. And then after that it should be fine. So there you go guys.
Oh man. A side trick says, can we have a demo? You do have a water bottle. Yes, that's fair.
Intel on float plane says, I love the eco packaging for the cable ties, but I worry about
greenwashing. Will you make a commitment to be carbon neutral by a certain year? You guys set
a good example in terms of employee treatment and ethics would love to see you set an example of
climate change. So the thing about carbon neutrality is it's really difficult to measure
for us. It's not about greenwashing. It's more about just doing whatever is obvious that we can
do. To me, just not having excess plastic in your packaging is just obvious. It doesn't actually
cost a lot more. So why not something recyclable? So two things, just in case you're like me and
didn't know what greenwashing was, greenwashing is the process of conveying false and a false
impression of providing misleading information about how a company's products are more
environmentally sound. Second question to be combative. Why are those in plastic bags?
That's actually a good question. Why are these in plastic bags?
Because someone, I think it was Jake, brought that up when those were first,
and those might even be the first demo samples and maybe their packaging has changed.
Yeah, let me find out because I remember having a conversation about that. I know that our goal is
by the end of this year to have no plastic in our packaging and shipping materials.
Hopefully you guys are going to be able to hear Nick.
It's coming through. I can hear it in my headphones.
Okay, cool.
Oh, I'm being ignored. Call screening, call screening.
You have reached mailbox number.
Oh yeah. I wasn't sure if it was going to say it's phone number or something.
That was close. All right. Well, I didn't manage to get in touch with Nick. I know that
I know that there's no reason they shouldn't be shippable like this. We'll have to figure that
out. I will find that out for you guys. And I promise that the second shipment will not have
plastic on it. If those were the same samples we had when we first showed them off forever ago,
then that's how they were originally handed to us. And it was said that they
were still working on the packaging. Oh, oh, Nick's calling.
Hey Nick, you're alive on WAN Show. We had someone ask about the plastic
packaging on the scrunchies. Yeah.
Didn't we get rid of the plastic or are these still the early samples?
I believe there was miscommunication with the supplier and it's going to be fixed on the next
round that we do it. But yeah, I think those are present on the current round.
Got it. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you. What is it going to be? What will the new solution be?
They'll probably just be loose in whatever the, you know, the pack is that we send to the customer.
Okay. And maybe they just throw a staple in the top of it so that the scrunchies don't fall off
the board. Uh, something like that. We'll send me an email and I'll make sure we follow up on it
next week. Okay. Thanks Nick. All right. Thank you. Okay. Bye.
All right. Mr. Schwab says, I, um, Mr. Schwab says, I heard Artesian builds bought out Linus
media group. Is that true? No, that's definitely not true. I'm just going to email Nick real quick
here. Now, if you want to send in a merge message, you have to have over 5,000 followers on all
socials. What? Oh, stop. Stop. I'm kidding. Enough. It's a joke. Enough. All right.
Uh, speaking of which, should we do some merge messages? Yeah, we probably should. Should we do
one more topic for, Oh no, we should definitely do some merge messages. Oh, there's some curated
ones. Sweet. Shadow Ed, Edinburgh, like it doesn't matter. The point is finally got a 3080 excited to
try these towels. Can't wait for screwdriver and backpack. Are there any other products on the
horizon you're super excited about that you can hint at slash spoil? Uh, we're, we're working on
pants like tech pants, like kind of cargo pants. Okay. Those I'm really excited about. You have,
you have sweat pants and we're working on a, uh, what's something else that's really cool that I
can kind of spoil. We're getting kind of close enough that if I don't give any details, it
shouldn't give our competitors any hints, but we are working on a really cool cable management
on a really cool cable management project. Okay. I can't give any more detail than that.
Has there been movement on that? Oh, lots. Oh, sweet. Lots. It's been a long time since
we talked about it, but that's exciting. Lots of movement. Uh, most of the designs are final or
near final. So we're going to move into molding, uh, like creating molds. And I have given,
I've given rough quantity guidance to the team anywhere from about 30,000 units all the way to
a hundred thousand units of each thing. So this is going to be yet another million dollar bet.
Big push. Let's go. Yeah. I, um, oh man, this is less of a new product and more of just a business
update, but I had, I had some floor time, some floor time in my office yesterday. Nick came in
to talk to me about backpack. No one gets to see my floor time. I have floor time these days. Do
you have floor time? It's interesting. Yeah. The thing is I find, and maybe it's BS, but I find
sometimes I just, I can't think about something unless I take away the gravitational blood flow
limitations and just, I need to lie down, you know, 100% of all effort needs to go into brain.
So I had some floor time because Nick came in talking to me about our order quantities for
backpack. So far we have 9,000 people signed up for a notification when it comes in stock.
Now I don't expect a 100% conversion on that, but I expect a pretty strong conversion. And
when we initially scheduled out RPO with the supplier, we scheduled it out 10,000,
then a two month gap, another 10,000 for delivery, and then a two month gap, and then another 10,000
for delivery. So we would have 30,000 over a span of four months. And, and in that four months,
they would all arrive. And then presumably they would last for a little while after that. Okay.
Based on that 9,000 notification number, I'm freaking out a little bit because we only have
the first shipment. If all goes well, Oh, by the way, this is the final one. Oh, I have the newest
sample. I got it this week. This one is almost final. The only thing that's not final is the
final. No, no, we're not getting another sample though. Oh, so there's one small, not final thing.
And it's that in one of these little, um, like accordion foldy things here, we're going to put
a small pocket on the inside for an air tag. Just a little to put an air tag in there. So it's,
it's not going to be hidden hidden, but it's also not going to be obvious. It'll be kind of
tucked away and there's other places you could kind of stash it as well. But other than that,
this is final. So the color on the zipper poles is now correct. The mechanism for the luggage strap
attachment thing is now these loops instead of the metal buckle things. I liked that a lot. We've
also got, uh, what else changed? Oh yeah. The screwdriver pocket now has a compatibility function.
So if you don't want to put a screwdriver in it, you accidentally put something small in it. We
realized you couldn't get your fingers down there to get it out. Oh, so we just put a zipper here
so you can get into the bottom of the, that's actually kind of cool. Yeah. I like that. Not
the stupidest thing we've ever done. Why not? If you threw not that screwdriver in it and the
bit like fell out or something. Yeah. One other not final thing. This Linus tech tips word mark
here is going to go. Okay. So that and the air pods pocket are the major changes. Oh,
we deepened these pockets here for that I use for my mouse and my cable. They're deeper now.
And then we also deepened, uh, these pockets that I use for my battery bank and my charger
to make sure that they're compatible with larger chargers for anyone unsure of what he's talking
about in regards to the notification. Uh, we, we put up, I believe it was last week, uh, two pages,
one for backpack, one for screwdriver and their way that you can sign up for a direct, direct
notification email notification, um, when those products are finally available for purchase.
Yeah. So here's the problem. The lead time for production is 90 days. If all goes according to
plan, we get our first 10,000 units in early August. So manufacturing terms lead time that's
before they would start making it right. That is from the moment we say go to them putting it on a
container, putting it in a container actually. No, I think nine. No, I think 60 days is the
production time. And I believe it's another like 30 days for shipping or something like that.
So 90 days should be the time from Presco to it arrives. And that assumes no delays at the ports,
which have been weeks in some cases. So 90 days is my best case scenario. When I decide
I want more bags, my first shipment is going to hit me early August. If all goes perfectly,
according to plan, that's prime back to school time. Okay. I only have 10,000 bags and I have
9,000 people signed up according to the original plan. My next round of backpacks was going to hit
me early October with another round, September, October, November, early December for holiday
season. Right. But that's it. That's all we'd have for the entire year. And basically, as far as I
can tell, the back would, the backpack would just be completely out of stock for the entire year.
Here's the other problem. If I, if I need more of them this year, I pretty much have to decide
before I get to see a single unit cell. Yeah. The other problem is that every 10,000 units
of backpacks is a seven figure bet. Anyone talking about how the backpack is, is unreasonably
priced or whatever, you don't understand how much it costs to make a really high quality bag.
It just costs a lot. And so every single one of those chunks is a seven figure bet that we either
win or we lose. Right. So I'm, ah, yeah, I'm. So are you happy you did notifications or no?
I don't know, man. I, we're, we're going to ask the factory to step up those later,
those, okay, here's another problem. Should we do like a straw poll to ask people,
like, if you signed up for the notification, do you intend to buy or are you just interested?
It's not gonna, I don't think it's going to tell us anything real. It's so easy to say,
yeah, I'm considering it. Right. Like, I don't know. And here's another problem.
I guess the question would be, are you committed to buy each of those 10,000 units? Okay. Takes
up nine 40 foot containers, nine tractor trailers. So if we accelerate the delivery schedule
and they don't move, like we're expecting and that's really expensive. Where are we going to
put them? Where am I going to put 27 containers of backpacks? Imagine if you will, the scale,
the size of 27 shipping containers. Like literally what would you do at that point?
Could you do basically anything? Floor time. Floor time is the only answer I have here.
If I want any more backpacks to arrive this year, I have to decide before I've sold a single unit.
I believe in the product. I think we're going to do it, but I just spent over another million
dollars. Oh, you did it. Decisions already made. Well, it hasn't gone through Yvonne yet. We might
not have. Oh yeah. We have so much. We have literally all of our cash deployed in backpack
and screwdriver right now. So what we might have to do is we can play around with some mortgages.
That's an option. Yvonne really doesn't want to do it. Commercial mortgages are very time consuming.
Do you do it to apply for a commercial mortgage costs over $10,000 to apply for it? Right.
Commercial landscape in BC is like horrifying. Yeah. So we could play around with some mortgages,
but that would be expensive and time consuming. We three officers rather store two containers
work there. How many containers was it? 27. Yeah. It's not two.
It's 27. Okay. Sorry. Keep going. People are saying, let us preorder. No, I won't. I won't.
I insist that because what happens if I don't deliver it in August? What if you preorder it
and you're counting on it for school and you end up having to go buy another bag? Well,
then I just you. Right. And there's, I don't want that global shipping right now is nuts.
I'm married. I don't want you. Not that kind of relationship. It's just not understandable. I
mean, maybe you'd be into it, but I just, I just can't. How could I look my wife in the eye while
we're spending time together? If I knew that I that refactoring time though. Got to hydrate,
get them election. Oh my goodness. Yeah. I don't know. I respect it. So no, I, I, I, yeah,
I just won't do it. I've made my choice. I've made my choice. So yeah. So one of the other ideas
is that with the first round, I believe we paid for all the materials upfront in order to lock
in the cost. That means that probably our, our, our fourth 10,000 units is going to cost more.
That's okay. Worst case scenario, we raise the pricing marginally. We've never done it before,
but this is a really different product for us. And if it happens, it happens. We will,
the ones that are locked in, we are absolutely locked in on the pricing that we've got,
but that's 30,000 units. I think most of the land show faithful will be able to get one at that
price. Um, but what we could do is we could not lock in. So we could just pay a normal deposit
and then wait until we have made that much money, hopefully on screwdrivers and we'll,
we'll take screwdriver money and dump it back into backpack. And so you're talking August or
backpack. Do you have a similar timeline for screwdriver? Ah, no screwdriver. We still have
one more technical challenge to resolve around the ratchet. There's a, um, there's a tolerance
thing that we've got to figure out to make sure that it always stays locked in the correct
position. We believe we have it completely nailed down, but we need another set of samples from the
factory to make sure that it actually worked in the real world. And that will hopefully be
final sample for that one. That should be final for that one. Cool. So if all goes according to
plan for screwdriver, the good news with screwdriver is we have a lot more of the parts
already produced. Like we have a ton of injection molding done. We've got parts that are ready to be
assembled. We just need to make sure the ratchet is absolutely perfect because the thing is that
a lot of people, more people have criticized the pricing of the screwdriver than the backpack.
And I understand because $70 is a lot for a screwdriver that is premium screwdriver pricing,
which means that there's a lot of pressure on us to deliver something that absolutely stands up to
that. I've seen people not really understanding what we're making, criticizing it saying, oh,
well, if this is only for building PCs, that light duty work, I couldn't possibly justify spending
this much. It's for anything. I went to go, cause I was like, yeah, it's not cheap, but like I know
of rations screwdrivers that are more expensive. So I went to go Google snap on rations screwdriver
and it auto-filled orange. Oh really? I'm assuming cause we're here. That's also their default color
though. They do have other colors, but orange is the default. Okay. That's probably it then.
That's funny. So yeah, it's not cheap, but I think, I think I should have probably mentioned
this in the video about it, but that was the goal. That's the mark because that was my screwdriver
for many, many years. And I simply wouldn't accept anything that doesn't meet that standard. So yeah,
that's what we were aiming for. We were never aiming to build a budget screwdriver.
So if you want a cheap screwdriver, there's a lot of options out there, but this one is really
great. Yup. Love it. I love it. Yeah. I'm really excited about it. Speaking of money and money
problems and all that kind of stuff we're hiring. We're hiring more people. Yeah, I know. Right.
To go along with labs, there's going to be a website and that website is going to do cool
stuff and look cool. And I need someone who's going to make a lot of the stuff that is going
to do cool stuff. And I need someone who's going to make a lot of the stuff that's going to like,
look cool and also has function. I need a front end and a backend developer. JavaScript based
for the website. We're still kind of figuring out exactly how we want to do certain things,
but JavaScript experience is the main thing we're looking for.
I don't necessarily know the best way to get this out to you guys, but I'm going to put it
in the various chats. And if we could put it under the video for people that are watching
on YouTube and stuff, that would be fantastic. There's two different Google forms. Just sign up
for the Google form and you're good. Both of these positions can be worked remote, but there
is a strong preference for Canadians. That is the main thing. Local would also be great, but
Canadian is the main goal. Flipped a mattress on Twitch says $70 is the cost of an iFixit
ProTech toolkit. Absolutely. Very different tool. Very different tool. And Shadow Guardian over on
Floatplane gets it. Every cheap ratcheting screwdriver I've had has been absolute crap.
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. And we're not setting out to build that.
Okay. Well, both the forms are closed. I'm not logged in on this computer.
So, yeah, I'll fix that later. Just look in the description under the video. It will be
fixed tonight. So yeah, look later. This is a great question from Dale D.
Another merch message. Our Intel T series processors, if I recall correctly,
those are the low power ones. Compatible with all motherboards or are they OEM only?
Currently building a server slash NAS and I want something very low power. Okay. I
guess I got that right. Passive water cooling. Okay. Building my own case as well to fit 10 hard
drives. Wow. Very fun sounding project. Generally speaking, yes, they should be compatible with any
motherboard that's compatible with that family, but it's not a guarantee that that compatibility
will be perfect. I would check with the motherboard manufacturer to ensure that it will work
exactly as you expect it to. I have never seen it not work, but I'm sure there are edge cases
where it hasn't worked. Braden C. Question for Luke about FlowPlane. As someone in computer
science, I was wondering what technologies and languages you use for it. What don't we use?
We use a lot of stuff and like, I don't know. It is mean stack and JavaScript based,
it's, but we do a lot of different things. So, oh my goodness. Yeah. I think that's the
best way to describe that. What just happened? I just tried to curate one and I think it
disappeared. Oh no, nevermind. Yeah. It's in the curated. Why don't we do one of our topics?
Intel introduces the new ATX 3.0 and ATX 12 VO 2.0 specifications. ATX 3.0 is a really interesting
one. It's got the 12 volt HPWR or high power connector that Intel says will power most,
if not all, I can't imagine anything it wouldn't power, future PCIe 5.0 decibels,
PCIe 5.0 desktop cards. This thing is going to do 600 Watts of power over a single cable. And
don't forget ladies and gentlemen, that these cards can draw an additional 75 Watts from the
slot. We're talking a total of 675 Watts for a single card. It includes side-baddened signals
that let the PSU tell the GPU its power limit. So not all of them will be capable of delivering
600 Watts. I mean, obviously a 650 watt power supply is not going to be able to send all of it
over the PCIe power cable to a GPU. So I believe they are, I can't remember what the different
steps are, but power supplies will have different tiers of how much power they can deliver over that
connector. And they will communicate that to the GPU and there's a new power excursion limit for
PCIe 5.0 cards to hopefully remedy power spikes, including updated DC voltage regulation guidelines.
Intel is expecting PCIe Gen 5 devices to require even more power than the currently available ones,
which says a lot in a world where Nvidia created the RTX 3090 Ti. Has Nvidia come out and disclosed
a TDP for the 3090 Ti? I actually do not know. Oh, apparently it's 450 Watts according to tech
power up here. 450 Watts, ladies and gentlemen, turned down for Watts. Literally every watt.
With a suggested power supply capacity of 850 Watts. And then what is this? Holy crap.
An MSI card has supposedly leaked that has what it's 480 Watts. Wow. That's crazy. Do they have
more pictures of it? Holy bananas. Look how thick this thing is. It's a thick boy. It's three and a
half slots. What am I even looking at? It's crazy. Wow. All right. Do you still need a minute?
Cause I can keep stalling. No, you can go. All right, cool. Also we got 12 ATX 12 VO 2.0. So ATX
12 VO was all about better power efficiency at idle. And we actually got our hands on a
compatible power supply and motherboard. Must've been about, must've been over a year ago,
about a year ago. I don't remember. The point is we got our hands on it and it really worked.
Huge difference. So I'm kind of excited about this just from like an environmental standpoint.
And let's have a look at what it does. Okay. So it's got the I underscore PSU percent feature.
Uncertain what that is, but it was previously available in mobile and server systems.
Anthony says, presumably this refers to communicating total PSU utilization so that
resources can be allocated to the devices that need it most. But that's just a theory,
a game theory. Good reference. Love it. Intel also claims the new spec will help small form factor
PCs meet energy regulations, specifically calling out California's tier two appliance rules.
So this could mean that, oh, this probably refers to California's 60 kilowatt hour per year figure
for desktops with an expandability score between 250 and 425. Intel claims this is the most
substantial change to the ATX specs since ATX 2.0 in 2003. And for reference that included
emphasizing a shift from 3.3 and five volt to 12 volt independent overcurrent protection for
each 12 volt rail, the 24 pin ATX connector up from 20 pin that replaced the six pin auxiliary
connector, say to power connectors being mandatory, alternative sleep mode, AKA modern
standby V2.5 one and ripple efficiency, minimum load guidelines and requirements in point updates.
Here's our discussion question posed by Anthony young. Do we really need 600 watts of capacity
running over a single connector to a single card? I say, yes. Yeah, why not? On the one hand,
I'm very pro efficiency, but on the other hand, man, when I press that gas pedal,
I want it to just a black smoke, baby. You can be pro efficient. You can be pro efficiency.
And also obviously I'm playing a bit of a character. I want the availability of the
option of power when needed. Yeah, for sure. I mean, for applications, we're going to have
I mean, for applications where the performance matters by all means, and especially seeing the
way that graphics card manufacturers are building tools that allow you to limit the power consumption
and limit the performance of the device. Also high draw doesn't mean low efficiency. Yeah,
yeah. That's another thing. It could be spitting out so many frames. Yeah. 600 watts is a lot. I
mean, the cooling challenges, the cooling challenge. Oh yeah. Well, the card was huge. Yeah. Yeah.
Water cooling is almost like a necessity by that point. I feel like I would default to that. Yeah.
Oh, absolutely. I mean, you're not going to be putting many other cards in a computer
that's got one of those in it. Not with a really tiny rad either. Nope. Like it's going to have to
be a pretty serious setup. We've already reached the point where triple rad setups on Intel K
series skews can outperform dual rad setups in a way that is meaningful in a way that matters.
I thought you meant whole system. I was actually asked in float plane chat for thoughts on the
12, 900 KS being $800. Frankly, for the performance, it doesn't surprise me that much,
but I am looking forward to Intel having a more efficient gaming chip. And hopefully we're going
to see that with Raptor Lake down the road or is Rocket Lake coming first. I can't remember which
one's first rocket. I mean, maybe rocket is first and then Raptor Lake. I can never keep all their
lakes code words, code names. So just as an update on the forums, I tried to like open the
applications on my phone, but it, I have no control over the phone or over the form through my phone.
So I'm going to have to do it when I get home. Twitch plays Dion says $800 CPU WTF bra, but
remember extreme edition doesn't even exist anymore. Those used to start at like a thousand
dollars for that whole lineup. Intel doesn't even have that anymore. So if this is an extreme
edition and it's a 16 core CPU, that's real fast for like everything then, yeah, it's a lot of
money and most people won't buy it, but most people never were buying CPUs in that price range.
And you could almost think of it as discounted compared to what we used to pay for a 16 core CPU,
almost. Cause I remember the days when even the top end extreme edition was a grand and not like
two grand or whatever, whatever shark jumping they had done by the end of it. They did some pretty
rapid hops near the end. And then I'll be real interested to see what pricing is like for 3090
TI. Will it reflect pandemic shortage pricing or will it reflect the more recent price drops that
we've actually witnessed in the GPU market? Like let's head over to actually, you know what I've
read about it, but I have not personally verified any of this yet. I saw that 3070 TIs were going
for not outlandish amounts of money in the secondary market. 3070 TI. All right. And then
let's, this is, this is always my way. This is my way. Show only sold items.
Hmm. Okay. Seven 50 open box, eight 80, seven 80, eight 30. So it looks like they're really in the
high seven hundreds, low nine hundreds range. Here's one from today for six 60 though. Like
that seems to be coming down to earth a little bit. Here's an EVGA FTW three for six 35.
I mean, that wouldn't have happened not that long ago. Launch price of a 3070 TI was 5 99, right?
Hmm. So they can be had for approaching MSRP, but a lot of people are still paying far too much for
them is what it looks like right now, but it's not double MSRP like it was. So I'm not saying
it's good. I'm saying it's improved. Oh boy. Yeah. Hey, my take is not that the 12 900 KS is a
bargain. My take is that you weren't going to buy it anyway. It was, it was, uh, it was a segment of
the market that was never serving that you were never part of. And that's okay. I've never bought
an extreme edition. Oh, except until retail edge. You've never bought an extreme edition.
Except until retail edge. Yeah. Which were deeply, deeply discounted
CPU's for retail, um, like salespeople. So don't take it personally. When I say you're not the
target market, I'm not the target market either because I think you'd have to be crazy to buy the
KS when the K exists. In fact, if I was just building a rig for someone whose money I cared
about, I wouldn't go above the I seven. I don't think I ever have like the, uh, the 12, 600 K
is like still a 12 core. It's got all eight performance cores. It's overclockable. If
you really want that extra little bit of gaming performance, like there you go. That's it.
Actually, there's some really good value, like even like core I five.
Have you ever had people that like pretty good, got you to build a computer, ask for higher than
an I seven equivalent. Oh yeah. I mean, back when I was working at NCX, of course I tried to talk
every extreme edition buyer out of it. You know, what's crazy. I had someone message me with, uh,
with a customer service request that they sent in to the PC advisor at NCX, which was an email
inbox that I manned alone back in those days. And they were like, Hey, just wanted to show you this
as a blast from the past, a little bit of nostalgia. And it had their question and my answer.
And I can't figure out where they sent it to me anymore. I'm so frustrated because I thought it
was so cool that they went out of their way to send that to me. And I, I can't figure it out.
It's not, I can't find it in my inbox on the forum. I can't find it in my email. I have no
idea where they sent it to me. Now that you're saying this, we'll probably just send it again.
Yeah. Maybe, maybe they will. But it's all that problem. Yeah. It sucks.
Cause I thought it was like, no, no, not at all. I mean, it was just, you know, generic,
which GPU should I pick and how many hard drives like that kind of stuff. But it was definitely
written by me when I had time, because I was very thorough and I was like, Oh wow,
I did a really great job. Yeah. I'm I, yeah, it sucks. I would have loved,
I would have loved to show it to you guys. Cause I just thought it was really funny.
What's our next topic here. Ukraine is selling invasion timeline NFTs. That's right.
NFTs might actually be being used for something productive. The Ukrainian government is raising
funds by selling NFTs based on the timeline of the Russian invasion. The minister of digital
transformation announced the collections launch on Twitter. So we're going to go ahead and whoa,
that's not what I meant to do. We're going to go ahead and fire that up here.
Stop. You can check it out here. So there's a gallery.
And these are the NFTs.
Very trays interesting. Okay. So like, are they live now? I don't know.
Donor unreleased. Oh, okay. I guess they haven't actually been made available yet.
Oh, Trey's interesting. All right. Are they all tweets?
I don't know. The truth is because NFTs are such a toxic exploitative technology in their current
implementation. I have not taken the time to figure out how to buy one and stuff like that.
Oh no. Yeah. That's all whatever. I just yeah, these are not, they're not released. I was
wondering like what the theme was and it looks like maybe not all of them or I'm not sure if
some of these aren't actually complete but it looks like most of them are framed around a tweet.
Got it. Yeah.
The collection is titled Meta History Museum of War and proceeds will go to the Ministry of
Digital Transformation to support the army and civilians of Ukraine. The civilians absolutely
need some support over there. And minus hot take NFTs for war are okay. NFTs for self-defense
are okay. I abhor violence in any form. But when an aggressor is trying to take your stuff
and like kidnap your people, you got to do something about it. It was supposed to be
an airdrop of free tokens to people who had donated crypto to Ukraine, but it changed due
to copyright scams and complaints that not all donors would receive tokens. Man. Discussion
question here. Thank you, Nicholas Plouffe. Is this going to spark a bunch of NFT scammers to
try and sell similar NFTs and then not donate the proceeds to Ukraine? Is that already happening?
Immediately diving in to figure out is like, is this account legit?
Yeah. Yeah.
Are we reporting on something that's bad, et cetera, but it seems legit.
Anthony's take, probably. Now.
I mean, I told you like when they sent out information on like these are like Bitcoin,
Ethereum, whatever wallet links, they're like keys. A bunch of people, when people were asking
like, hey, does someone have the address? We're sending the wrong one, obviously their own,
to try to scrape money. So like it's literally already happened in an extremely related way.
Right.
And I'm sure it will happen this time.
Oh, that's frustrating.
Yep.
In brighter news, Riley is a character in a video game.
Yeah.
That's right, ladies and gentlemen, it's called Star Tenders.
Star Tenders, yeah.
It's out for Quest 2 and PSVR now.
Like bartenders.
I get it.
Yeah.
Coming to Steam soon, he plays a character named Riley R dot I dot L dot E dot E,
because they named it after him. It's a sci-fi bartending game with a full narrative campaign
and everything developed by Foggy Box Games under the Yogscast umbrella. And you can see
slash hear his character at 42 seconds and seven minutes and 28 seconds here.
So hold on a second. Oh, how do I hear this? I guess I can't.
I don't think you can.
Well, is this Riley's character? That's awesome. What was that other timestamp?
He said 42 seconds and seven minutes and 28 seconds.
Okay, here we go. Clearly Wally based.
That's amazing.
There he is. Look, it's Riley Murdoch.
I don't know if you guys know this, but Riley has done a fair amount of voice acting.
It's something that we are. We're happy. We're happy to support him doing here.
It does cause him to miss tech link days sometimes, but I think it's
super cool and we always try to find a way to to accommodate that.
Riley's just Riley is just such a character voice acting.
So interesting to me, but I absolutely do not think I have a good voice for it.
I think Riley absolutely does.
Oh, he's great. The second I loaded up the trailer and I heard his voice,
I was like, yep, it's perfect. Yep.
This is great. I love it.
I think that's it for that, though.
Let's show the PSVR exclusive, which is kind of what it says.
It's out for Quest two coming to Steam soon.
Oh, it's just the video that was linked is specifically a PSVR one.
Got it. Got it. Got it.
All right. Yes, I do.
FM one. Do we want to shout out the how to build a PC last guide you'll ever need?
Oh, we do.
Is it out?
It is not out. It'll be released next weekend if all goes according to plan.
And it has taken months of effort between the writing team,
logistics, shooters and editors with a total of five hosts.
Right now, the current cut is an hour and forty five minutes long.
So it's an actual feature film length LTT video.
About a quarter of the video is part selection rationale.
And we actually never select any parts because the intention
is that it's going to be how to build a PC.
The last guide you'll ever need.
Everything you could need to know to figure it out for yourself.
If that kind of makes sense.
Does this mean you guys are never going to make another guide?
I don't know if we would never make another guide, but we would never need to.
Yeah.
No one would ever need to is the goal.
Maybe there could be a need for a more concise guide.
Yeah, it's a little bit on the long side, but it focuses or it doesn't.
It goes over all the PC building concepts that you need to understand rather than just
focusing on one build and describes how to build PCs around both PGA and LGA CPUs.
Talks about even the big boy sockets like Threadripper, Epic, LGA, 36, 47.
It's basically exactly what it sounds like.
And let me tell you, it was a marathon script review session.
I think it was over three hours of me.
I mean, that makes sense because the script is so long.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Anthony wrote it.
I script reviewed it.
We have five hosts.
Logistics has been heavily involved in helping me shoot B-roll.
I believe there are 900 B-roll shots or something stupid like that.
Like, I think the video was shot in November and we are now finally releasing it.
It's going to be quite the thing.
It's going to be quite the thing.
We should do some more merch messages.
Yeah.
Michael C says my PSP battery swelled and storaged.
I replaced it, but what can we do about long-term storage of systems with internal
batteries like the PS Vita and Switch eventually?
Nothing other than put them at, I think it's about 40% is optimal for lithium.
Double-check that, double-check that.
I don't remember the exact number, but you just have to put them at a certain level,
put them into storage, make sure they're kept at a fairly constant temperature.
About room temperature, I think is best.
Or is it better to go colder?
Can't remember, look it up.
And that's it.
And if it's stored for too long, it'll swell and you'll have to replace it.
And that's why right to repair matters so much.
We should have the right to use something for as long as we wish we could.
For as long as we wish to use it in any way we wish to use it.
And I don't understand how anyone can argue with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stop simping for billionaires.
It's that simple.
JH, got my tax return today.
Will there be a way to swap the orange or black accents on the screwdriver with custom
parts, i.e. I want a forest green accent.
Okay.
Okay, so technically the top cap could be removed, but it's difficult and it would be
very difficult to replace it on your own.
And the beauty ring around the ratchet selector would also be...
It's called a beauty ring?
We call it that because it serves no function other than aesthetics.
Oh.
Yeah.
To cover up the bare aluminum of the ratchet mechanism where it meets the handle.
Oh, I thought you meant like the selector.
No, that's the selector ring.
Yeah.
The beauty ring just sits in between it.
Is it a surface that could be painted without it just like coming off on your hands all
the time?
You'd never touch it, but it would chip probably because there's moving parts around it.
Well, he said, I don't think he's just meaning the beauty ring.
I think it sounds like both.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I'd say it won't be easy.
We'd like to do other colors in the future.
I can't say that I think forest green would be a high priority, but yeah, I'd say it will
be very challenging.
That's going to be my final word on that.
Patrick V picked up a mystery shirt for the girlfriend.
Hey, heck yeah, Patrick V.
You can click to view more, by the way.
Oh, whoa, a whole bunch of stuff.
21 ounce water bottle, scrunchie thin pack.
Very nice.
Aqua towel.
I have a question about submerged mineral oil, the, oh, the submerged, sorry.
They're coming in so fast right now.
Cause we're reading them a submerged mineral oil PC won't turn on.
How do you recommend to test the parts?
Should I put it on different hardware?
Ooh, this is a, this is a tough one.
Putting it on different hardware is likely the only way to test it, but you will get
mineral oil all over everything.
And as you learned, it will eventually eat stuff.
So yeah, it, um, it's a fun novelty project, but it's not necessarily something that
I would recommend for daily driver use.
Well, I mean, he has one already.
Yeah, but it's dead.
So it might be time to move on.
You're recommending his next project.
I get it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chelsea.
My parents are moving to the other side of the world.
My parents are moving to the other side of the U S any advice on what I should do before
they leave to make remote support easier.
One quick thing about the mineral stuff stuff.
Um, if you're going to try to fix it, do whatever you can to keep that oil off of parts
that aren't going to go back into that machine.
Cause it can take an excessively long time to actually have them not be oily.
Yeah.
It's basically impossible.
Yeah.
Chelsea, first of all, shout out for, you know, being all cool.
And helping out your parents, um, other than putting remote support apps on their devices
ahead of time that you share the credentials for, man, there are having a backup remote
support app is pretty cool.
Um, I like writing things down, like setting them up with a password manager or, uh, like
my grandparents, for example, who would just cannot be trusted with anything technology.
I have like a master book that not only acts as a reference for them for important things
like passwords in that form.
Yep.
Um, it also acts as a reference for me when I visit.
So I can remember what I changed last time.
I've tried, I've tried to force last pass onto a lot of it or other various password
managers that parts are relevant onto quite a few different people.
And some people just don't work that way.
Yep.
They need books as much as that is not recommended.
And it should be safe.
It should be locked up, but yeah, some people just, you know, they, they just need that.
So other than that, man, I don't know what else to tell you.
Having it, having a backup, uh, remote access app, like having two different paths in can
be good.
Cause every once in a while things can go wrong.
What else would you do?
Yeah.
I mean, remote support is the main thing.
It's tough.
I, one thing I would recommend as well is try to get remote support that you can log
into without their assistance.
Yeah.
Because you might have things like the monitors not plugged in and it's difficult for you
to diagnose that.
Yeah.
Make sure you've briefed them on how to conduct a video call, whether it's via FaceTime or
WhatsApp or whatever else.
If it comes down to it and I've, I've done this multiple times, they can do the face
call and they just point the phone at the computer.
Fix things that way before it's, it's definitely operable.
Um, yeah, I think that's about it.
You could do a nine night executable of most of their programs and just get them to like
run it every once in a while.
Cause that'll update everything.
That's not bad.
Orbital AFK, looking forward to the backpack.
Bit concerned about keeping my water bottle inside in case I need to use a non-LT store,
LTT store bottle.
Well, why would you ever use a non-LTT store bottle?
Anything I can do to protect my technology and school supplies.
Okay, so we actually did give some thought to this.
We're all about making sure our products work together, but we're also all about making
sure our products just work.
The water bottle sleeve, if you guys can see it in there, can you see it?
Uh, you can kind of see it.
It's got an elastic on it.
So at its widest, yeah, there we go.
At its widest, it's the right size for our 40 ounce.
But actually here, actually Luke, can I have your 21 ounce?
It's also designed to accommodate, without allowing them to fall over, tightly, a much
skinnier water bottle.
So there should be no reason for your water bottle to fall over in the bag.
Yeah.
Oh my goodness.
So many merch messages coming in.
Jeffrey, what are your thoughts about Apple putting the SSD controller on the motherboard
instead of on the storage unit?
I mean, I think I made it really clear that it frustrates me to see companies engineering
for, um, forced deprecation of their hardware.
It's not that the idea is inherently bad.
Having the controller on the SOC very likely has great performance advantages to putting
it on the SSD itself.
But Apple absolutely could have designed an SSD controller that would accommodate being
upgraded with more flash.
They just choose not to.
And it's that kind of obstinance and arrogance that frustrates me so much about Apple's way
of doing business.
They could have done what they did in a super cool way.
They just decided, you and that they wouldn't.
So, yeah, I think that's it for me.
That they wouldn't, so there's my thoughts on that.
Yeah.
Bryson says, uh, Oh, okay.
Same thing.
I fix it.
Did it tear down?
Attempted to replace the storage.
It appeared not to work.
Any thoughts?
Yeah.
I think I've said my piece on that.
I think you did this one too.
Yep.
Jonah L says former video editor for a tech channel that toured my studio.
Wow.
That really narrows it down.
I don't know who you are though.
I I'm sorry.
What protections do you have in place for your staff?
Would you support a unionization of stash slash camera crew under YouTube creators?
Is YouTube creators a thing?
I think he means like, I don't know.
Interesting.
Super up on it.
Is it a thing?
So I've, I've made it very clear in the past.
Oh, is this the, the, uh, yeah, I've heard of this.
I've made it very clear in the past that I feel that if our staff felt like they needed
a union, I would consider that and Yvonne too, we would both consider it personal failures.
Here in Canada, there's absolutely nothing that we'd be able to do to prevent it legally
speaking.
So if they decided that they wanted to approach their engagement with their employer that
way, that's there's, there's absolutely nothing that we could do to challenge them on it.
It's actually sort of baffling to me that it is possible to have such blatant, like
just brazen anti organizing policies in place in our neighbors to the South.
I don't get it.
Um, what protections do you have in place for your staff?
I mean, really, what does that mean?
Yeah, I don't really know.
I mean, we, we have like a dental plan.
I, I, I'm, I'm not really a hundred percent sure what you're asking.
There's a lot of legal protections for employees just in general in Canada.
Like it's, I, my wife and I joke sometimes it's easier to get a divorce than to fire
an employee.
Like it's, it's actually very difficult.
So I don't really feel like they need additional protections to be perfectly honest with you.
Um, I know that in the States, particularly in States where they have at will employment
it's a totally different story.
There's basically no protection whatsoever.
You can just dismiss someone for any reason at any time and they're entitled to like nothing.
Yeah, that's not true.
But that is not the case up here at all.
Um, obvious lobster says probably like an anonymous report line for HR.
So we do have a third party HR firm.
Um, we do have, if anyone ever had a problem with me, they could take it up with the other
could take it up with Yvonne and we do take that anonymity and we do take their privacy
very seriously.
If they have an issue that is so big that they can't trust either of us with it, frankly,
we've failed them anyway.
Um, I, I, I don't know what we could possibly do to resolve it.
I think that overall we try to do a really good job of addressing people's concerns.
And I don't know what to tell you guys.
Uh, Laddie says, the thing is every bad boss in the world says you don't need a union.
I'm a good boss.
The reality is sometimes your interests will not align with your staff and relying on you
being a good guy is them taking a risk.
Being in a union doesn't change anything.
If you're a good enough boss, the union never needs to be involved.
Um, that's one way of looking at it.
Yeah, but I mean, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm not going to see eye to eye with you on that.
I agree that a lot of bad employers probably would say you don't need a union, but in our
case, we are actively do, yeah, we're, we're constantly trying to figure out how to make
LMG a better place to work.
That's not going to change.
So there you go.
And I think there's been constant improvements over the years.
Um, well, I should hope so.
I mean, in the early days it was not great.
We're, we're always trying to work out of a garage.
We were a scrappy company.
I literally lived in his house.
It's okay.
Yeah.
You had, you had both, uh, tenant rights and employee rights.
Ah, dude, I had a good, pretty sure we violated all of them, but he did get meals included.
Dude.
Good ones too.
Uh, Dusty Old Crow, have you considered making a breakaway lanyard?
Uh, also what would you recommend as a solution for switching a console's output between a
TV and a computer monitor across the room from the console?
Okay.
So breakaway lanyard, we've looked at it.
The problem is the breakaway mechanisms we found tend to be flimsy and we haven't found
anything we're happy with.
We know that they're a requirement for certain, uh, for certain work that we do.
We're just not there yet.
As for a solution for switching a console's output, uh, you're talking about an AV receiver
and there are also HDMI switches, uh, some of which have remotes that could be used in
order to do that.
Honestly though, with CEC control, you might not even need it because it could be that
when you fire up that device, it'll just automatically reroute, depending on whether you can get
an HDMI switch with it.
I'm not too familiar with HDMI switches just because I do have an AV receiver, but that
may be an option.
Question for La Freniere, Gabriel and de Bellavance, employees of Lingenmeister Media.
What is your guy's favorite and most hated retro, older than 2000, tech?
This question is too big, so I'm truncating it a little bit.
That's the part we'll answer.
Favorite tech?
Favorite and most hated?
Pre 2000.
I mean, honestly, if I put myself back in my pre 2000 shoes, I loved my Super Nintendo.
And especially when it was connected to my little portable TV that was like this size
and had a VCR on the bottom.
Man, all my content, one box, loved it.
Okay, that was my favorite.
I mean, I'm gonna decide that I'm gonna put myself in the age that I was at that time.
Sure.
And then also say Super Nintendo.
Yeah.
All right.
At that time, we had computers and stuff, but the Super Nintendo was very accessible
and couch gaming was like totally a thing.
Oh, yeah.
And gaming with the family, gaming with the neighbors, et cetera.
And Super Nintendo was just sweet for that.
Jake Bellavance, hit me.
N64.
N64.
Yeah, man, a bunch of Nintendo kids here.
As for my most hated avalanche 1080 crappy rechargeable batteries, rechargeable batteries
in the pre 2000 sucked.
They were terrible.
The N64 is a good answer.
The reason why I didn't say N64, because I loved it as well, is by that time I had started
getting much more into computers.
And I think the SNES had more of an impact on me at that time.
I'm also older, so maybe that's why.
Joshua Carroll says, Hey, Linus, why do CPU clock speeds decrease as the core count increases?
Good question.
The reason for that is that there's only so much power that a CPU can draw through the
socket and that can be dissipated to a cooler.
And so if you were to just increase the frequency linearly, you're going to increase that power
draw.
And if you have twice as many cores running at an increased frequency, you're going to
quickly outstrip the amount of power you can deliver and the amount of heat you can dissipate.
The reason that you're able to scale down clock speed just a little bit and add way
more cores is that the efficiency curve as you increase the clock speed, as you increase
the voltage is not linear.
So as you increase your clock speed along the X axis, now let's go clock speed Y axis.
So as you increase your clock speed a lot, no, let's go X axis.
As you increase your clock speed along the X axis, your power consumption and therefore
heat output goes like this, right?
Goes like that.
So by stepping back just a little bit, you can bring your power consumption way, way
down.
And that's why those low core count SKUs are able to hit these crazy clock speeds and high
core count SKUs tend to not.
And when high core count SKUs do, it's because they're taking whatever power budget they
have available, juicing it into one core and then running all the other ones at a much
lower speed.
All right.
Tyler P, thanks for the amazing products and amazing float plane from Luke.
Shout out Luke.
Yeah, the only one that makes it.
How far out is the updated theater for float plane?
Uh, I don't want to say the actual expected time, but soon.
Okay.
Also would be cool to see LTT judge the customer service of float plane and the LTT store for
that video.
Oh, for the video where we evaluate our sponsors.
Oh, that would be an interesting one right now.
I know our customer service for LTT store is a little behind, but we're working on that.
Zachary W, would you guys consider making another reading me in comments?
Yeah, we would.
And have you gotten your revenge on Colton for his and Yvonne's pregnancy prick on you?
Not yet, but I will.
I haven't forgotten.
Kieran says, Hey guys, big fans.
What suggestions do you have for your first step into making your home a smart home?
I mean, I think, yeah, light switches are just such an obvious one.
Uh, the biggest one for me though, in terms of importance is definitely cool.
Not wasting energy and having the rooms that I'm occupying, being more comfortable, big
fan.
My, uh, my place is so small that it's honestly just not a big deal.
It's like probably just as much time to just like get up and press the switch as it is
to go to my phone and do it.
So it's like, don't forget about voice control, but I don't have any Google homes or nests
in my art.
Excuse me.
Google homes, uh, echoes.
I am not down with voice control unless it's local.
Fair enough.
Risic says, very excited for the backpack.
I know line has said it should fit the steam deck, but I was curious if that was in the
case it comes with or without the case.
So it's both, uh, this is actually another revision on this one that I forgot to mention
to you guys.
The, can you hold the bottom of it please?
Thank you.
The bottom of this pouch now has a soft like microfibery, like sweaty material at the
bottom of the pouch.
So if you were to slide a steam deck in bareback, then it would sit with the screen against
this, which I think is pretty cool.
And then if you wanted to put it in with the case, you could just shove it in the bag of
holding.
Jeremy B says, I noticed the interest in missing from some recent videos.
I'm guessing this is intentional.
It is.
Do you have a rationale?
Yeah.
It's that the first missing piece of the bag of holding was the case.
The first minute of a video is where you're most likely to have people watching.
And if we're giving up eight precious seconds of people's attention for a canned animation.
Is this because of my notes?
Which notes?
I guess not.
All right.
Oh, I sent notes months ago talking about how there's a dip during the intro.
Oh, we know that it's from skipping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, but that's not good for reasons.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, no.
Yes.
Yes.
So it's been a while coming, but my intention is to phase out the intro.
Yes.
It kind of sucks because it's been a staple for so long, but you got to that's a point
in time in the video right now that is extremely important as far as YouTube is concerned for
retention and not skipping forward and all this other type of stuff.
So you got to play for those seconds has to happen.
So John B first time watching live, saw your review of the QD OLED Alienware monitor.
Wanted to know your thoughts on text clarity issues and color fringing issues that users
on ultra wide Reddit have reported.
Now I focused on it as a gaming monitor.
I did not actually spend a ton of time on it looking at text.
So I've talked to Plouffe about that already and we are hoping to take another look at
it together.
I will say that I don't think Samsung's adversarial approach to people's concerns so far is very
constructive, but I also do think that there can be limitations to certain technologies
that are worth the payoff.
It's a really cool display tech.
I would think of it kind of like aperture grill CRTs for a super dated reference.
Basically, you could see these two lines that were caused by wires that were running kind
of a quarter of the way down and a quarter of the way up the screen and you could easily
make them out if you knew what you were looking for, even though an average user probably
wouldn't notice it, but they gave you so much better image geometry that in my personal
opinion, they were worth the trade-off.
And in the case of QD OLED, man, they look so good that I'd have a hard time imagining
it not being worth it, but I will have to take a closer look at it.
Eric R. Hey Linus, now that you have solar on your house, what advice would you give
to your tech savvy listeners on what to say or where to direct people who ask about solar?
Since we are the tech savvy people, where do you start?
It's tough because it's one of those industries where there's just not a lot of people who
want a lot of consumer facing information.
And it's moving pretty quick.
And installers tend to have kickbacks from particular panel producers that they are not
always going to be forthright about.
So you can't necessarily count on installers to give you great information.
I shouted out a distributor here in Canada who kind of carried everything for giving
me the goods on what they were seeing installers preferring and what they were seeing low RMA
rates on and stuff like that, but other than that, I don't even know.
I don't even know what to tell you.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I mean, I ended up with those dual sun ones just because I was super into them being a
hybrid panel for both water heating and solar power generation.
I don't even know if they're any good.
Yeah, yeah, it's tough.
Joshua H, what's your opinion as a parent when it comes to what technology and devices
your kids are allowed to use?
What kind of parental controls do you use?
I do use parental controls extensively family link on Android as well as passwords on our
computers in terms of what they're allowed to use.
My son has unlimited access to his Kindle.
Our daughter, our oldest daughter has been offered a phone now because she has demonstrated
her trustworthiness.
That's one of our requirements is that our kids have to go for an extensive period of
time without lying to mom and dad and lying includes withholding information when they
know that it's pertinent and she has passed that test now and we offered her one, but
she said she doesn't want one just yet, but we limit phone use to, I believe it's 45 minutes
a day of anything other than the Kindle app and they have to tell us what they're watching
on YouTube.
They're allowed to watch educational YouTube without asking, but they need to ask us if
they want to watch like Minecraft let's plays or whatever.
So that's kind of where I'm at on that.
Never really thought about the idea of the Kindle, but it makes sense.
Yeah, you can read whatever you want.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Austin says absolutely loving the house content.
Hey, heck yeah.
Cameron, so if we aren't going to get Linus Linux tips, could we at least get some more
in-depth videos on some of the software you guys set up during the house videos and server
room videos?
Ah, man.
See, I think that's a separate channel.
Like it kind of has to be.
Even then, is that enough?
I don't know if it's enough content for another channel.
I just don't think we can justify it.
Yeah.
And yes, I'm an extremely strict parent, Mighty Mouse, but I have no regrets.
My kids are amazing.
They're wonderful.
So I wouldn't do, I wouldn't do a single thing differently.
Also the internet's a kind of a crazy thing.
Yeah, you got to, you absolutely have to be able to trust that your kids are going to
tell you the truth if you're going to let them out there.
It's, its effect on adults is like intense and overpowering for a lot of people.
The, the doom scrolling for days thing is like actually a real thing.
Absolutely.
Like it's, it's.
My kids are going outside, ladies and gentlemen.
That's like, that's the way it is.
No, you find something else to do.
Also, my son, we've started trading a piano practice time for gaming time.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
And yeah, he's getting, that's an interesting, like, yeah, he is actually, he's getting really
good at both.
Yeah.
I haven't seen the piano.
I'm, I'm just, I'm commenting on the, on the gaming.
But that's cool because that's like kind of gamified.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
I'm into it.
I feel like as a kid that feels less restrictive, even though it's a restriction, if that makes
sense, Nova nightmare asks, if you had to pick one price, not being a factor, would
you pick the new and I anneal next or the steam deck?
Well, the steam decks got the touch pads.
So if you want to play games that require a touch pad, like you want to play RTS games
on mobile, there's no choice.
I'm going to throw in some potential.
Can you get an I a Neo next?
I believe it's an Indiegogo right now.
It's an Indiegogo right now.
Is it Indiegogo?
Yeah, it's an Indiegogo.
I don't know when they're planning to deliver.
I mean, counterpoint, can you get a steam deck right now?
That was my point.
Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, okay.
Okay.
No, no, neither of them is shipping today.
So, so your, your answer might end up being whatever one you can, if it's something you
want that bad.
Um, because like, I still don't have my email and I think I ordered pretty early for the
steam deck.
Um, did I say email?
I don't know if I said order email, but yeah, yeah.
I like, I am super not that jazzed on the limited compatibility of the steam deck.
I have not been able to participate in some gaming experiences that I would have liked
to in the last month.
And like, okay.
Yeah.
Maybe we don't play the most normal games a lot of the time, but like, who does literally
almost nothing that we play works on the steam deck because we mostly play Halo, Anno and
Supreme commander.
It's like, darn it.
Supreme commander does work.
I actually had a community member from FAF volunteer to help me set it up on the steam
deck and I was just like, I'll just play FAF later.
That's cool though.
That's cool.
That community's awesome.
How am I supposed to be talking about right now?
Hey Linus.
Oh yeah, I, I, Oh man.
The game compatibility.
Performance is more similar than you'd think.
What I really want is an Aya Neo next next.
I want something with proper RDNA 2 graphics and Zen 3.
Yeah.
But I can't wait.
Yeah.
Which one am I going to use when I'm done?
My steam deck challenge might be the idea, but it costs like twice as much.
So it's tough more than twice as much, but the steam deck is so cool.
And the screen goes dimmer.
That's a big one because I play at night a lot.
I think if I was an average consumer and I was buying one, it would probably be steam
deck just purely because of price because the Aya Neo pushes into a price range.
That's pretty intense laptop.
Yeah, but that's obviously not comparable.
It's handheld.
I like the smaller profile of the Aya Neo next.
It depends on your use case.
I can absolutely see people doing it.
I think it's just, it's very specific.
I'm at 15 minutes order time.
I'm hoping for an email around April 1st.
True Scott asks, did you see the Joe Rogan video about the metaverse and the next generation
living their life completely in there, therefore allowing China to take over the world in 30
years because of the strict internet usage rules for kids by the government?
What's your opinion on that?
I think, I think, I think you should not take everything that was just typed at exact value.
And I think we should just move on.
That sounds like a conversation you need to be there for.
Should we take a, should we take a break from merch message questions and you should,
should you show me the thing I tried, I tried, I tried.
Okay.
I, I gave it a shot.
I tried to keep us on the rails.
It didn't work.
You just caused him physical pain.
Text.
This is the power of the internet.
This is what I was talking about.
I'm recovered.
Oh my God.
I'm fine.
I'm fine.
I want to be talking about now.
I'm not going to respond to either, either the remaining
merch messages or the things that you have to show me.
I think I was going to show you.
So I got a new wallet.
Yeah.
Okay.
Check it out.
What do you think?
Wow.
I didn't think it was, wow.
It feels pretty nice.
It's leather.
Real leather.
Not show that, I guess.
Well, no, it's behind your laptop.
You're good.
You're good.
Ah, that's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Handmade.
If I didn't know who made it, I would not assume that it was necessary.
There's like only one part that feels a little handmade and it's that one card slot.
Yeah.
My wife made me a wallet, which I think is super cool.
So it's got like a spot for cards and money.
It's got other more different spot for my ID with a little window in it.
And I'm, I'm super jazzed, which is great because my old wallet was falling apart.
So I got to the point where I've never cared about, you know, appearances like that.
You know, like I, I, I wouldn't make sure that people see my Louis Vuitton, a wallet,
a wallet when I pull out my credit card.
You know, like I never, I never really cared about that kind of personal image kind of stuff.
Um, I, I don't, I don't get satisfaction from people knowing that I paid a lot for this
thing, but it was at the point where it was like kind of embarrassing because it like
had just shreds of leather, leather hanging off of it.
Like I'd gotten to the point where I kind of tried to like take my card out, sort of
under the counter and put it back in, but I'm a, why is he French Louis Vuitton?
Okay.
Don't you think this is a French name?
Sorry.
I'm sure there's enough French blood in me for me to do that accent.
Uh, Adam B says, what is the future for float plane?
Trying to become more like YouTube?
No, if not, what are you going for?
Well, one of our, one of our employees is trying to get his, uh, his, uh, certification
to be able to fly a float plane.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's super cool.
So, so, uh, I think he's watching too.
So that's, that's the current, you know, developmental path.
We're going to move into actual flow planes.
Um, no, I, I, uh, we're, we're trying to make the platform better and we're making
more stuff.
Should I talk about the thing?
Have I talked about the things before?
I think I have.
Yeah.
Just talk about everything.
So we're working on, uh, something that the internal name is flow plane as a service.
Fast.
Fast.
I want to go fast.
We'll probably come up with a cooler name than that because as a service is,
uh, yeah.
A little not trendy right now, but the idea is we've, we've had a lot of people reach
out to us and be like, Hey, like, I would like to do the same thing as you sort of like,
I would like to have my own platform.
I don't necessarily want to join yours.
I don't necessarily want to join any.
I would just like to have my own.
Yeah.
Um, so we've thought like, okay, that's pretty fair because that's why we made our own too.
Um, so we're trying to take the tools and the, the, the, I guess just the powerful tools
that we have made for flow plane.
Um, super baller actually, especially compared to what we know a lot of other people are
using.
Yeah.
So we're trying to make it so that other people can have their own sites so they don't have
to be on float plane.
And then we would just offer both creators could just join float plane or they can make
their own thing that you guys can join.
And it's, it's their own stuff, but we manage the backend.
We, we, we make sure it all, all runs nice and good.
And if creators want to head over to float plane because Vimeo screwed them over or whatever,
we're, we're super down, you know, come on, come on over.
But the thing that people have to understand is that float planes service is priced like
it costs to deliver video because if you don't price it like it costs to deliver video, then
people get a big surprise when all of a sudden they, they're, you know, a couple hundred
dollar bill turns into thousands of dollars.
Like what happened with some Vimeo users because serving video online is super fricking expensive.
It's just that simple.
Yeah.
Someone asked any comments about the Vimeo drama.
I've been tweeted about this too.
And my answer every time is just, yeah, it's expensive.
Yeah.
If, if, if watching a stream or a video is not expensive, then you're either paying for
it in some other way or you are the product.
It's, it's one of those things.
Cause it is just not a cheap thing to do.
And it's been delivered cheaply to a lot of people for a long time by a very small amount
of extremely large companies that are making money in other ways.
And that's it.
Like by selling your data, which we don't do.
Yeah.
Travis C says Linus, do you see LTT creating any new YouTube channels?
I should certainly hope so.
If we don't manage to create any more channels ever than we suck.
Parth P says, Hey, great to catch the show live.
By the way, my family owns a grocery store and we're looking around to upgrade our cameras.
Any recommendations for a small business?
Man, that's tough.
You know, if I was a small business, I'd probably just go Wyze cameras.
They're so cheap and they like work.
You know, if I was baller, I'd go Ubiquiti cause man, is their stuff ever nice, their
camera stuff.
But Wyze cams, they get, it's that 80 20, right?
Like they get you a lot of the way there.
Hey Linus and Luke, what software are you going to use for record playback of your home
security cameras?
The software that came with my POE cameras is crap Ubiquiti.
Oh, so good.
So good.
It has problems, but it's mostly so good.
Thanks auto G for the merge message.
Last one, Paul H says, Hey, given that the labs lead is starting in the next month-ish
is there a ballpark ETA for the first video to come out of LMG labs that you feel comfortable
revealing?
No, not yet.
I don't want to promise anything.
And I've told the folks that are working on it so far, like your guys's job for the next
six months is to think.
Yeah.
And build processes and spend money.
Don't waste money, but spend it.
That's pretty much the mission that I've set for them.
Yeah.
All right.
I think that's pretty much it for the WAN show.
Little shout out reminder that I will fix those forms.
Let's try to get them in the description.
I will fix them right when I get home.
So yeah, please apply.
We need peeps.
Thank you guys so much for tuning into the WAN show.
We will see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
Bye.