Alright, so those of you who are just joining us now
We're live those of you who were here before
Well, we're live, but the show is kind of starting over
So just bear with us for a couple minutes here
While we go through our headline topics for the day and all of that other good stuff
So yeah, who is a allegedly making their own YouTube something that we kind of talked about mostly already
So we're not going to get into too much depth with it the r9 295
Allegedly rumored has been leaked that is AMD's upcoming dual GPU graphics card allegedly
allegedly allegedly
We've also got some other interesting stuff this week
So Mozilla CEO has resigned over an anti gay marriage controversy something that I would like for us to try to take a
Balanced approach to rather than take one side or the other. It's definitely something that's a hot topic right now
There's about a 13 page thread on the Linus tech tips forum about it and then something I really wanted to talk about
It's just that's an observation of mine is whether or not the gaming laptop is dead as a product category
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So let's jump into our first topic and we're gonna blitz through this one pretty quick since some of you have probably already seen it
And that is that Yahoo is rumored to be working on their own YouTube. I don't think they're gonna call it Yahoo tube
Yeah, tube. Yeah tube. Yeah, too
Yeah tube is kind of like it's like even more casual than YouTube, yeah
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm just gonna go watch on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, too. Okay. Anyway, um, I think either the Nordics or the
You know who else would like it? Maybe the Jamaicans would like it. It's like
We're gonna go after the Jamaican and Nordic market
Brilliant
Absolutely
so the rumor the word on the street and the original article that this was posted on the forum by oh no tech and
So the article that we were looking at from Guardian LV is
Says that Yahoo's CEO Marissa Mayer
Allegedly has been contacting YouTube content providers star talents and network channels with the promise of more money if they switch to the Yahoo
Service
Mind you to me the big challenge is of course the chicken and egg
You can't have an audience without content creators
You can't incentivize content creators unless you have a ginormous audience that you can drive
traffic to their content with and I don't know if their approach of going after the premium content creators is
Necessarily right because that's part of what made YouTube so big and so hard to beat by competing
Well, I mean Vimeo doesn't even really try to compete with them
But that's what makes them so hard to surpass in terms of size by other video sharing
Services is the fact that they have this enormous mainstream appeal so you could take all the music videos all the vivos of the world
And move them over to Yahoo
But then you've just basically turned yourself into a video streaming service
Unless you also have that community and if you create a community
Interaction model then it might go all Google Plus on you and blow up in your face anyway
And like if they if they try to buy people out and make it so they can't post on YouTube
That would bring content over that you'd want to watch there
But then that's really aggressive and is gonna create some really
Awkward situations and if you don't do that people are just probably gonna want to watch it on YouTube instead of yeah tube anyways
So I mean from my perspective actually, this is something I didn't cover before so as a content creator
What does Yahoo have to overcome to appeal to me? Just move the mic a little bit closer here
I see a couple people saying the audio is a bit low
It's not adjustable. It sounded great. Whatever. Okay, so
What do they have to overcome?
Number one is that even though YouTube takes 45% right off the top of the advertising revenue
That's generated by something like a true view in stream ad before a video plays
What YouTube is able to do is probably about?
I'd say double to triple my overall viewership by
Driving new viewers to old videos
So when you look at a new video that we upload within the first let's say week
That's probably unless it's something that really has legs in the long term something like our Xbox 3 our Xbox one versus ps4
Image quality comparison unless it's something people are really gonna be looking for in the longer term
That's about 90% of what that video is ever gonna get in terms of views
yeah, what YouTube does is it takes that video and
drives people to it in the background
Compared to you know, just us blasting it out to our subscribers now YouTube makes a lot of mistakes
They don't send our videos to all of our subscribers like there's a lot of stuff wrong with the YouTube model
but they kind of make up for it by
Keeping our content as prolific as possible and
Spreading it out so that even older content that we're not focused on anymore is still maybe making us
Two cents that day from the 40 people who watched it which adds up when you have 2,000 videos uploaded to the platform
So if Yahoo's approach is going to be trying to get exclusivity deals with premium content creators
Without
Necessarily a plan for having that huge mass of viewers like on YouTube
I'm gonna I'm gonna go find something that's like like an ancient motherboard unboxing or something
YouTube has so much reach that even super old videos
So motherboard unboxing, let's try to find that even super old videos can generate revenue for you
Um
So
What's interesting is the I've been subscribed to our own channel on my private YouTube
Just so I'd know what we're releasing because a lot of times I just don't
Because I'll film or work on something and then finish it and then it's like oh, alright
We'll see when that comes out, I guess
So I was described our own channel
So I know what's even going on because people will talk to me about things that have released
And I'll they'll be like in your most recent video blah blah blah and I'll be like I have no idea
What you're talking about, so yeah subscribe to our own channel
The only thing that I get in my subscription feed is the wan show, right? I don't get anything else
I have to go to the channel directly to get anything else in my subscription
So on the flip side, here's the motherboard unboxing from August 2011
Yeah, actually I can screen share here from August 2011 that has got a couple of views, you know
Let's say one view per day over the last month
Like how how is that even possible does anyone care about the sniper 2z68 board so
without having that mainstream appeal
You are Yahoo tube may suffer. Yeah tube. Yeah, too. Yeah, if they call it. Yeah tube
We ought to cut we want to cut 10% cut. That's the lens media group cut. That's the Linus media group cut 10% cut
That's all we ask. It's actually very reasonable. It is. Yeah, too
All right, let's move into our next headline topic we're gonna try and compress the show a little bit because we started so late
We're really sorry for that guys. We are on a brand new dedicated line for the show. So
There you go. All right
Over to my screen. Boom
Leaked this is allegedly and I can neither confirm nor deny a picture of the r9
295 x2
AMD's rumored upcoming rumored to be dual GPU graphics card with what is rumored to be 8 gigs of
Gddr5 memory is rumored to have a radiator attached to it rumored rumored allegedly now
We've seen implementations like this before with low-profile
Like, you know guys like cool it or Asa tech make these things low-profile pump block combo units on each GPU
And then a fan to take care of cooling the rest of the components the memory the VRM and all of that good stuff
But this would be the first time that we've seen a I mean, it's gonna be pretty niche
But this would be the first time that we've seen a mass produced product implement something like this right out of the box
I mean
Yeah, guys like sapphire have done this kind of stuff. It's like here's a liquid cooled graphics card out of the box
And yeah, yeah, but this is the first time we've seen a reference design that's what I was yeah
There's actually been like a few but not reference ones
All right, when you say mass-produced like I don't know how many of these are actually gonna make either. I have no idea
I mean, I don't see it being limited. I do know that some of the
I do know that some of the dual GPU cards in the past have actually been fairly limited production run
Yeah, and they have intentionally kept the supply constrained because they know that if they just flooded the market with them
there's no way they could sell them all anyway and
So that may be AMD's strategy here. Keep it as a niche appeal item. So the rumored
suggested retail price is over
$1,500 and
When did this happen?
It was always like a grand wasn't it? Yes, and then it was like Titan Z. Nope. Well, no
No, what started this actually, I think we have Nvidia to blame for this
Well, we do Titan but not Titan Z because Titan how much was taken a thousand dollars for a single GPU card
So they came in and they went okay. We've got the 690 which is a dual GPU card
we're gonna put another card at that price point Titan at a
$1,000 and that is our thousand dollar tier card now
it's a single GPU card, but if you want two of those which by the way is a
Miracle of engineering depending on the clock speeds that Nvidia and AMD like both of them miraculous engineering
But if you want two of these things on a card, you got to pay more than a grand now
What happened I
Don't know cuz like it wasn't that long ago
Personally, who cares just like two of the other one. It's gonna be so much better. Anyways
And cheaper. Well, we don't have a clear idea of what the clock speeds will be on this card
But what is a rumored allegedly is that it will have a total of five thousand six hundred and thirty-two
Stream processors making it too fully fledged Hawaii XT course
Did you say boo or boom boom boom?
We should have sound effects on this show, you know a radio you probably haven't seen this but the battlefield for Easter egg
If ten people go around a baby, yeah
And then yeah
Yeah, did you know that an explosion happens to make that water thing if you look close enough right when he hits the water?
Yeah, there's like a fire explosion then it instantly switches to water if you look close enough
It's there and if you follow the people's camera when they're in the water
It's like it blows up but like only for a second. It's how they're simulating me. Yeah, that's
Fascinating. Yeah, that is a cheap hack and I love it. Yeah
Take advantage of the excellent water physics they already have in the game. Yeah and a mechanic they've already built. Yeah
It's go look at that footage again pay attention and look for the the the like yellowy fire explosion
That would happen from like a bomb in battlefield 4 and watch it just disappear like right away
Touche dice
Touche, I don't know how many people have actually noticed that but I love it
I had to segue to that because I was like this somehow connects and there we go. Yeah speaking of Kinect
lot
Lots of great Microsoft news this week, although very little of it is to do with connective at all
Nothing's to do with connect. No
Well, hold on you could make the argument that Cortana could potentially be
Connect related at some point. Yeah, maybe yeah. Yeah
Because I don't see Microsoft putting a bunch of resources into an excellent voice control
Mechanism and then not putting it on the Xbox one, which desperately needs it. Yeah
Alright, so Windows 8 will be free on devices under 9-inch. This is
Amazing and it pretty much makes me forgive Microsoft
But not Google for that whole thing with not allowing tablets that run both OSes
So our original source here is the verge and the idea is that we have phones and tablets
This has been a huge roadblock for Microsoft gaining any market share because let me tell you from talking to guys like
HTC about the kinds of
Constraints that they are under when building a cell phone
They basically are at the mercy of the providers who say look we're gonna sell it for this much under contract
So
Whatever it costs you we don't care figure it out. Yeah, that is how that business works
So for Microsoft to take some of the burden off of the handset makers
To where they have to pay for the OS compared to Android which is free and iOS which Apple is obviously
Subsidizing in enough ways that they can just say, okay
Well, you know
We don't have to charge ourselves for the OS because we're gonna make money on the 30% cut
We take on the App Store
We're gonna make money on any kinds of purchases off of iTunes that this ecosystem builds
They don't have to worry about the cost of the OS where now Microsoft is making windows free on devices with screens under 9-inches
I love it. It's very cool. I saw a lot of people in the comments
Celebrating saying that they were going to install it. I don't know. Yeah, it's not that simple
No, I think this is more awesome because you can see it on more devices
Hopefully at a cheaper price point and stuff not necessarily because you're gonna be able to like hack hack and dose your phone
Although that would be cool. That would be pretty cool. I mean, how do you really and like maybe that becomes a thing?
I don't know. But right now it's like not so cuz I mean that's one of the big problems with Windows Phone
It's the very limited hardware that's available. That's another thing actually to segue into another topic, which I don't even know where it is
But they're encouraging people to make cross-platform apps now
So they're making it so if you make an app for the Windows Store on a Windows 8.1 PC it
Should hopefully also work on the phone, right? Yeah. No, they're they're they're pushing much tighter integration across the platforms overall
In fact, I've got a YouTube video here that we can just go ahead and have a quick quick boo. This video is awesome
Yeah, the video is super sure. No, it's not that one. It's a different one. The video is super short
Windows and Windows Phone together and basically
Joe Belfiore just talks about how they want them to be better integrated and he shows a quick example. Okay, he talks for a bit
blue
Blue okay, so he shows an example
Blue
Come on blue
Where he changes the background
Desktop wallpaper color. So the theme on his phone and a few seconds later, although they've edited the video
So I have no idea how many seconds it actually took a few seconds later
The the windows desktop changes color as well. And then of course, they're gonna work with what do they call it now OneDrive?
So their cloud storage is gonna be tightly integrated
They want the apps to be tightly integrated so that you're having more of an ecosystem experience
And that is ultimately how they're gonna make this strategy work. Microsoft is making a big bet here
Because this is such a huge departure from their traditional business of selling you the OS up front
Whereas now you look at the new strategy, they're gonna go, okay
Well, we still want you to buy Windows mind you they're slashing prices on Windows on Windows 8.1 for desktops as
Well by 70 per makers for device makers not for standalone. So they're basically going okay
Look, we're gonna sell you much cheaper windows for your desktop machine
we're gonna give it to you for your phone and your tablet and then
We need to find other ways to make up that revenue
But I'm looking at some of the ways that they're doing it going. Wow. This is really smart
So let's talk about office for iPad for a moment here. Yep, definitely office for iPad downloads reached 12
Million that's collectively massive. That is a big number
I mean the number of iPads out there
I think is estimated to be somewhere in the hundred and fifty million to two hundred and fifty million sort of range
So if you look at that and go, okay, let's say
Even you know, the higher number is more accurate
That means that like five percent of iPad users are so tired of the other
productivity solutions that they want Microsoft Office which let's face it is probably the only reason that a surface RT ever
Sold a single unit to two questions before we keep going forward
How long do you think until they rename it office one instead of office 365 and two?
What do you think the next word is gonna be because right now everyone is naming everything something one. Well, hopefully not word one. I
Want word. No, I don't mean word isn't all that's confusing. I don't mean word is in the program
I mean word isn't how everyone's using the word one like everyone's gonna switch at some point. Yeah
They I hope I want I want word up. We're
Worth a shot word up is the subscription one because it just constantly gets better. Yes
Okay, Tim Tim from Microsoft
I mean, I hope you're watching please like like send some emails
Okay, it needs to be called word up like the step-up model
Okay
so anyway
The free version of office for iPad actually only supports a very limited set of features and the way that
Microsoft wants you to give them money is by going for an office 365 subscription
so it's $99 or more for a year and
Let's talk frankly about this for a moment
Does office 365 makes sense to you? I think we were it's we were talking earlier
Computers lock up. Why do I have so many problems with laptops? No, it's all good. Um
No, it's not it's called my previous laptop is really really old now and has problems and this one and do you like this laptop
No
Anyway
Yeah, we were talking about doing it for the business but it's really expensive
Because right how many subs we'd have to get yeah, but it allows five devices. Yeah and
Collaborative tools. I mean visit five different users
No, five devices per user. So as a as a company, that's a lot of subscription
Okay, but if I want people to be able to work out of office more easily if I want them to be able to
If I want them to like, okay. No, I mean great example of this is if I want to share
Like a b-roll shot list, you know
It's someone really easily that I kind of created but I need to finish up if I could edit that on my phone
Share it with the group and send a push notification
How great does that mean that would be really nice or if you can if you have your laptop?
And you want to be able to you know, do a PowerPoint presentation on some other machine
Just being able to grab it
The advantages are tangible and the cost compared to something like creative cloud, which we already subscribed to
For how much it's creative club $80 a month per user. I think excuse me
Not sure something like that and the cost is actually not that high if you look at it from a monthly perspective
Uh, yeah office 365 is five computers and five devices, there you go
That's from someone in twitch chat here and like that's cool. I can definitely see it for university kids
Because cuz I'm just so tired of other solutions
Although at the same time if you just bought whatever release version of word was released at the beginning of your university life
You could probably use it the entire time through
But then it doesn't have all the drive integration and the live editing and collaboration
I see this being more of a feature for people that are gonna have to like maybe business kids
They're gonna have to do a lot of collaborative work on big documents and and offices
I don't know if it necessarily makes as much sense for us because we're gonna spend a lot more of our time in
Video editing software. I don't think any I don't think everyone here needs it. No, I think you need it and I need it probably
but I think they're okay like how tired are you of
Dropbox and like I've gotten to the point where because sometimes
It doesn't sync correctly with Dropbox and you resave it and then it doesn't go elsewhere and like it's and even though I save
on the server my
Massive massive excel sheet which like I understand why it's crashing because it's massive because I keep everything in there
But it can still crash and then that's catastrophic and it just doesn't work that well
Whereas if I can have something that just syncs correctly all the time
I would pay money for that the problem and but again
This is where Microsoft is still needs to get your money from you somehow is that it is only gonna work with one Drive
So right now the iPad app has no integration with other services like Google Drive or Dropbox
So they want to sell you cloud storage. They want to sell you a subscription to their software
But they're gonna give you the OS for free
It sounds crazy because it's Microsoft. But is it really any different from what other guys are doing?
I just saw someone type in twitch chat. It's not free because it's a subscription you idiots
I have no idea what that guy means Windows will be free. That's not a subscription
Oh, is that what he interpreted maybe from what we were saying? Yeah, cuz we know we know office 365 isn't free
We just spent like a while talking about how it might be too expensive for the company to adopt to it
But yeah, I just like I don't know. All right, so let's move on to
Actually, no, there was more good Microsoft news I wanted to ah, yes the windows 8.1
Update so I think you're a big fan of everything that's going on here
So maybe I'll play the video for them and you can kind of kind of talk while Joe talks or doesn't talk because he's muted
Okay, so go hard. So I saw I saw a leak on the verge
I saw a leak on a bunch of other things New York Times
Which I was really scared of going to because of what they've done to me lately
I feel like an abused child when it comes to the New York Times
Some people will get that not everyone but this is a leak about different. Well, not really a leak
It's official but different things that are coming to Windows 8.1 update one
They should just call that Windows 8.2
But or a service pack one or server type one or something that they've done before but whatever whatever everyone sucks at naming nowadays
I know right. We'll just take it I guess
But they're stepping back and doing some things that they should have done for a long time
And they're doing some of them in very interesting ways. So they're doing stuff like you can boot resume directly to your desktop. Yeah
Super cool, but then at the same time this is very easy to hack in yourself
And why wasn't that a feature before and why wasn't that a feature before it straight to desktop? No modern UI. Yeah, seriously
Windows store apps can now open as windows and can be pinned to the taskbar
That is very cool because it's super frustrating when I open something and like the default program
Which I know I can change but still is a Windows app and then it's like, how do I even get out of this?
How do I get back to what I was doing? Why is it my full screen all this other junk?
So now it can open as as as Windows on your desktop, which is nice
I mean, I think the most offensive one there had to be the picture viewing app that all one
It is the giantest steaming ist pile of garbage ever. Yeah, like it really is. So I'm gonna go ahead
I'm just gonna open up like one of my thumbnails and I'm gonna intentionally open it with this terrible terrible application
Why you ever would who knows why you would ever want to use it. I have no idea. Okay, so photos
so I open it in this thing and it's like
Okay, what can I do? Oh
Okay, it's actually managing to switch between rarely even seen it be able to do that before I know so half the time
It doesn't even do that. How do I how do I make it full screen?
Okay, and then but then one thing is you're doing all this so the touchscreen as well and I'm doing this with a touchscreen
It's it's a lot worse without a touchscreen. Like I hate that thing a lot a lot worse
It's the first thing that I that makes me realize that I'm on Windows 8
Yeah, then you're trying to press the escape button
You're like I want to because it's a full screen application escape should make it not full screen because you're supposed to escape the application
but anyways
Yeah now a thing gonna be in Windows. That's very nice. They're also gonna have minimize and
Close buttons in the top right-hand corner, which is gonna be nice
So if you're in full screen, you can actually minimize it now and I'll minimize it
Although we just barely cut off so they can't see it. Awesome. Anyway, that's great
But yeah that that's there now, which is awesome. And again should have been there for a really really long time
They added media control to store apps in the taskbar
Although this was definitely already a thing in Windows 7, but like they added it to the store apps, which is like okay
Well, okay, I don't that definitely should have just been like an automatic knee-jerk
We need this to be a thing not a added feature
But you can shut down the computer without dragging your mouse to the bottom
carefully moving it up so you don't go outside of the little the little band there and then
Yeah, so that's good. I'd be that's back happy the searches there as well. And then there's also now a tile icon for PC settings
So there's like almost no reason to swipe in from the right anymore because that was super dumb
So luckily that's no longer a thing
There's now right-click context menu for things in the modern UI junk, which hopefully you'll never be in there anyways
And you can like move groups of things around because you can now multi-select by holding ctrl again
Hopefully you'll just never be in there. Anyways, one thing about that though is
That's not intuitive at all for people who are like
Touchscreen computer operators. It's like yeah, you can rewrite like that to me
Holding ctrl to multi-select is a power user thing. That's not something my mom does
So like even implementing features like that in modern UI it's like why are you even spending the time? Yeah in modern UI
Yeah, yeah, definitely agree in the rest of the computer. It's like okay that makes sense. Yeah
Yeah, it's already a thing
So yeah, I hear you on that. But then again, hopefully you're just never gonna use it anyways
So who cares let them innovate as much as they want
In the all apps section things are now highlighted as you guys can probably see on screen. No, he's not showing it anyways
now if you go to all apps newly installed applications will be highlighted so you can find them easily which is like
All right, cool
I guess and then what everyone actually cares about which we are still can't see is the new start menu. I'm not very good at this
If you now click on the start menu, it shows a more classic styled start menu and then it has Metro styled
Things on the right which is I actually think is pretty cool
And the only place in here where I wasn't like, okay, well I either hate modern UI and don't use it
so don't care about any of these changes or
I just installed the classic start or some other form of start button and got all these things like directly to desktop
Anyways, so why does any of this matter the start menu looks really good. It has the old style
Can you share that if you click there? Oh my god, I hate Windows 8
Nope, doesn't work. Really you have it set up like that. You don't have a start menu set up. I use touch
Okay, I guess it makes sense. You have touch. Um, and I don't use the start menu. I pin everything
I haven't touched the start menu on my desktop in months
Yeah, that's true. But yeah
Yeah, I could pin modern apps if I wanted to why you even would want to no one knows but now you can do it
My thing is now you you're not pinning them
But now they open in Windows so they don't disrupt you as much at least if you
Accidentally happen to open a modern app. You can just close it
I mean, you know what? The funny thing is is when they tried to simplify
When they try, okay
when when Microsoft
Realized that most people are only running probably a couple dozen apps on a daily basis on their computers and they went okay
Well, let's create this modern UI where there's like nice big clickable buttons for them all or touchable or whatever they are
um
what they
Screwed up was probably just the fact that you that it completely took over your screen and stuff like that because I actually
Agree with the approach which is why I like the new start menu, which if you have showed it yet
I can't find it in the video. Okay. Anyways, maybe you do a little image search
Okay, yeah
But but I realized at that time that I'm already like that anyway
I only have I mean now that I don't need a separate launcher for every one of my games and
I can just launch everything through Steam. I
Only use like maybe 20 programs. Yep
So there you go and like the nice thing about the new start menu, which I think I finally found don't plug it in yet
It won't switch to it. Anyway, close that okay
Okay, so can we show this now, yep fine, but you can't see that
Yeah, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, that's thing. Yeah
Wow, this thing is so poopy. I hate this laptop. I know I don't like it either
We've been through this
We've been through so very many things. All right, just just Google image search this just
Windows 8.1 update one start menu. That's all you need to do. Why you make my anyways
It's it has the more classic II style start menu with this
It has an all apps thing
But I believe that's essentially the search button now on the right. It has Metro style buttons
I don't even know why I'm describing this one. You're just gonna pull it up. That's not it
Where is it this one? No, what did you even take this one? That must be it. I don't think so. Oh, no
Well, why didn't you just listen to horrible? You're horrible update one. What?
I don't even know what you're talking about. That's one I think
Is this it? Are you sure that's not the one I have on my screen, but that's one of them. No
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no there there there there there. Okay, that's it
All right, so this is from ours Technica, oh you guys have been watching this whole thing
I have a screen sharing the whole time. Okay, there we go
So so you can see it has a more classic style start menu on the left side then it has more
I almost said metro tiles that makes so much more sense to me modern UI tiles on the right
Which is actually totally fine because you can even see here. There's a feed and I like that a lot
Yeah, because you can have feed style. All I'm gonna put in there really is feed style stuff
Yeah, so that I can just like click there figure out what's going on right now and if I'm YouTube and stuff like that
Yeah, I'm gonna put all my feed style things in there just so I can if I'm going for apps
I can see all these other things happening, which I think this is actually great
And that's why I'm super stoked about this because I think this is actually the direction. They should have gone in the first place
I think they figured it out
This is so much better in my opinion than any of the ones that at least I have tried
Maybe there's one out there because I haven't tried anything on Windows 8.1 in a very long time because I'm just using Windows 7
Cuz I'm more used to it and I like it
But that's the direction I'm hoping for it
So I'm excited for Windows 9 because I hope they keep doing stuff like this or Windows whatever it's gonna be
but don't worry gamers you will not have to update to Windows 8.1 or Windows 9 because
DirectX 12 has been confirmed for Windows 7 and up the only version that it's that is not getting DirectX
12 is starter edition, which let's face it. You weren't running DirectX 12 ready hardware. Anyway, no, this is like netbooks and stuff
Yeah, so don't worry, but it's great news. Love it
Mike 18 for posting that on the forum and this tying in with like all of the other
Microsoft news ties into the death of the strategy tax
conversation
Which is where Microsoft had an internal thing where you couldn't do anything that was competitive with anything else in Microsoft's
Ecosystem within your own ecosystem
So if you were developing for some sort of platform if you wanted to do something if it conflicted with anything else
You couldn't do it
Which I think you should probably give an example or two I was just going to you, okay
That's good. So like if you were trying to release DirectX 12
It should be on new operating systems to drive people to adopt new operating systems
Not Windows 7 because then you're not
You're actually creating a competing platform essentially because you're making an older something better, which they're not trying to sell anymore
they're now trying to sell Windows 8.1 and
Possibly Windows 9 in the future
So if they were like coming to Windows 8.1 that would drive their new goal not Windows 7 another example would be
you know if the Internet Explorer team was trying to
Dramatically update or fix the way that web-based word processors that aren't made by Microsoft work within the browser
That might get the old. Hey, hold on. What are you doing? You're you're not helping us sell word
You're you're just doing your own thing. I was going to try and come up with some example that wasn't in the article. Yeah, whatever
It's a good example. It is a pretty good example
But in like that's they're both examples of that's not good for the users that might be good for sales numbers
Maybe in the short term, but that's not good for the users and it's really frustrating because you're like, well, I have Windows 7
I like Windows 7. I want to be able to use DirectX 12. Well, I have this browser. I like this browser
I want to be able to do basic word editing stuff in this browser
I don't want to have to use word right and that could make sure products just inferior and then no one wants any of them
Exactly. So in the long term, it makes things everything bad instead of one or two things bad
so hopefully we're done with that at least for the time being and
DirectX 12. Yay. I can play star citizen in all its DirectX 12 glory assuming they support actually I'm sure they will. Yeah
And I don't have to upgrade sweet
Yeah, that's actually really interesting thing because everyone's talking about how they have to upgrade so much for Star Citizen
Yeah, it won't be as big of a deal at least not the OS
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Or if they're gonna let us film stuff there like we have no idea
But we're gonna try and grill a film as much as we can while we're there. I emailed mr
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He's I've arguably probably very busy. Yeah. Oh my god and imagine his inbox
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No, you have a WordPress site and you bought a year of hosting from GoDaddy and like I'm like, well
It looks pretty good
can you use the template and then like things just start breaking all over the place and I'm just like
Uh, um, I guess I guess we can revisit this in a year
When your current subscription dies, then we'll move Squarespace and at that time it's such an obvious solution
It really is because and like it's easier for me
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Ah, yes, Apple patents what appears to be a mount for swappable phone lenses
This is legitimately exciting because one of the biggest
Challenges to making an awesome phone on a camera is the sheer physics an awesome camera on a phone
Whatever or phone on a camera, I don't care. I'm okay with something like a galaxy camera
Yeah, this is a phone on a camera. So just calm your boobs
Boobs is a much nicer word for web streaming than tits
It didn't actually save it you backed me into a corner no
I didn't by laughing at my use of the word boobs
anyway
one of the problems with creating an excellent camera on a phone is the fact that consumers demand thinner and thinner devices and
Do they that? I don't actually really think so. I kind of like it
Like have you seen an iPad air, but is it really driving stuff that much? Well, that's an iPad in our phone
It's like sexy but the but the upcoming iPhone 6 is rumored to be air thin and like I think it might get to the point
Where it's it's like too thin and becomes awkward. I
think that when we reach that point I
Will not reach that point yet and you will because you have sausage fingers. It's already at that point
Anyway, one of the biggest challenges is that there simply isn't enough thickness to properly create a lens
System that can do all the things they want it to do optical image stabilization
Putting a big sensor behind it so you can get really nice depth of field effects when you're taking pictures
And if Apple can get around this by going, okay
look
We're gonna have the stock lens on there and that'll do what it does and we can do all the software
Processing in the world and ultimately there will be a limit to what can be done
But we're going to build in a standard so you could actually put much larger or much more complicated or more
Specialized lenses because that's a big part of the problem too is that it's one size fits all and you can put specialized lenses
on your phone, I
Mean the iPhone is already according to a crap. What site was it? I think it's in. I think it's in our notes
I think it's in our notes. I think about the camera
Yeah flickers data shows that the iPhone is already a more popular camera than anything that Canon or Nikon makes
So if you could take better pictures with it
A lot of people would be pretty darn interesting sense though because then just more uploads are gonna come from phone. Yeah
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know like I get it
Yeah
I'm just saying if what is obviously a popular photo taking device
Gets a significant upgrade in image and I know a lot of people though by these lenses and you could charge a lot for them
And they would still buy them. Yes, because like it's just gonna be so much
Well, it's the same shutterbugs that are spending a lot on other lenses. No exactly
Yeah
And even even people that aren't necessarily getting really high-end nice cameras because maybe they can't afford the whole package
But take a lot of photos and enjoy taking their photos could buy a lens for their phone
Which isn't buying into a whole different ecosystem and probably a lot cheaper in the end, even if that one lens is really expensive
Mm-hmm. I could definitely see quite a few people that I'm friends with like the Instagram nuts
Yep, getting this super smart move and I super love it
Alright, so this has caused waves this week posted originally on the forum by Colonel Mortis
Mozilla's CEO resigns over anti-gay marriage controversy. So what happened was
He made a thousand dollar donation to an anti-gay marriage ballot proposal in
California proposition 8. Yes. So this was a personal contribution
not like he was using Mozilla's resources in order to to contribute to a political cause that
However, you may feel about it is legal right now. It's technically yeah, it is
Well, it's not even technically legal. It's legal whatever you might think about it. You're allowed to contribute to. Oh, I thought you were saying
Like you're so you're you're allowed to contribute to causes that you believe in whatever
Other people might think about you doing that
That's a free speech thing, yes
So we all know what resigned means. I mean three other board members resigned
Around the time that he was appointed CEO. We already know this before
Before this whole thing went down
So we we know that we know that there's no official word that those
Resignations were directly related to this or his views
Even was yeah, it was before he was publicly announced as CEO. Yes. It was right right around that time. Yeah
So I would like to hear from you guys
If
We you know hired a new employee for example, and we were to discover that that employee
Participated in an anti gay marriage protest or even a pro gay marriage protest
Can we put pressure on them to resign is that the right thing to do
So I'm gonna create a straw pool here. I think these are gonna be two different
Situations because there's two there's two different arguments. I can think of let's go with they participate in an anti gay marriage protest
So let's go with the one scenario so you could have different options. Let's just go with one
Okay, let's go with one to start on the employee to leave the company
Okay, so one answer one is yes
answer two is
Um
No, I guess I
Mean is that about all there is to it
Okay, so I'm gonna post this a few times, you know what there's two things that come in conflict with this already
I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna put the chat in slow mode temporarily
That's probably just so that my my links don't get lost or covered in the floods of other links that aren't related to it
Right. Okay guys remind me like tweet me or something. Remind me to to go ahead and take it out slow mode after
Yeah, good point. We might definitely forget. Yeah, so there's two two slight problems of this already one
He's not gonna be in like a CEO position
That's true
So that's that's a big difference, especially when you're looking at a company because if he's not running the company his personal views probably wouldn't
Influence the company as strongly. Yeah, so you've got that situation
This is these these sides that I'm trying to bring in are completely
Not related to the opinion. It's just like differences in the situation
And the other one is still ties into how publicly available that person is if you become the CEO of Mozilla
Everyone knows who you are. Everyone's gonna look into who you are
It's like when the new guy took over Microsoft. Yeah
There was a massive thing of everyone like tearing apart its entire history exactly and that's gonna happen when you take over company
That's not gonna happen when you become an employee of a company unless you're someone like Carmack who joins
Oculus and then everyone's like yeah, but even then I mean he's a CTO if I recall correctly. Yep
He's in an executive position. Yes. He's extremely high up. Yeah, so it's it's
Very different again. What even is this? Oh, okay. That's annoying
Yeah, so there's there's just some differences to what we're looking at now
Okay, well this is interesting because on our forum a lot of the discussion has been around
sort of where one person's rights end and another person's begin and
that that that to me is a very important part of this issue because a
Lot of the arguments being made are well, okay. What if he was a
Pro
gay marriage then is it is it okay to
Persecute someone for that if that's not something that the other people within the company believe like should we allow something that is
Effectively still whether we agree with it or not
Still a religious freedom of freedom of religion freedom of free speech issue
Whether it should be or not
Still happens to be that should we allow that to affect someone's employability any more than we should allow
Someone being gay for example to affect someone's employability
It's it's interesting one thing that I want to bring up before I even go into this which I'll get into that in a second
Is that I was very proud of the forum. Mm-hmm
I didn't have to take this thread 13 pages and we didn't have to take it down and there was there was each side of the
Debate. Yeah, neither side of the debate pulled out nuclear bombs, which is good, which is very good. Then we have to take it away
Yeah, and that happens sometimes but everyone was really good in this thread
So, thank you everybody for having a very civil discussion. That was awesome
But I don't I don't know I I like the free speech angle
I think we should stay on every everyone's thing and one thing that I couldn't find anywhere, but this was in
Supportive proposition 8 I guess so wasn't that a long time ago. I
Think so. Yeah, I think so
someone had to like dig back and find something that this guy did a long time ago and
Pressure him for it. Like that's I don't know
You'd think that acquiring a new position your actions would now be based on what you do now
But is it ever really as simple as being judged by our work?
No, of course
I mean I get messages all the time where people say they love to watch our content because they
Appreciate like what down-to-earth guys we are about
Whatever it is that we're doing whether it's you know a CPU or whether it's
Even some of the commercial productions that we've done they say they watch it because they want to support us and they like us
is Mozilla
Handicapping themselves by putting someone who is as far as internet culture goes very unlikable. Yeah
Hold that thought I want you to have that thought but I just need a moment here
So I created a new straw poll guys and this one is
What if the employee was in a leadership position and I'd like to see how the answers compare
Here we go
To if they were just an employee
Okay, so my was another thing that has to be taken into account here. Is that Mozilla is an extremely public company
Yeah, they talk about everything very open. We don't mean public like publicly traded. No, like open
Yeah, and like they try to bring in the community as much as possible sorry and they take donations
Which is another big part of it
So I've seen people I don't I didn't necessarily see this on the forum
But I've seen people saying like is my donation part of that
amount of money that was donated to that because even if it's his personal funds if he's being paid by Mozilla you could make the
argument that if you don't support what the individuals
do
Yeah, so that became interesting that got fairly shot down because of yeah way bigger part of
Mozilla's income is like from Google because of Google search being the default not from donations
They don't make nearly as much on donations as a lot of people
I think think they do make a lot more off of that Google search
And like there's a lot going back and forth because of that
But when you're in a company like this every single move you have is scrutinized
Yeah, and like he probably should have known that but then again he wasn't CEO then so he probably didn't care
All right, let's go ahead and I
Can't find it. There it is. Let's go ahead and have a look at the results for that one
Okay, so we can see that you guys are giving us very very different answers this time
So if the employees in a leadership position, so just an employee so, you know, like if we were to
Hire someone that does something that I don't think is a good idea like say for example
I don't think smoking is a great idea as an employer
I'm not
Convenienced by allowing someone to take smoke breaks, which I am legally obligated to allow them to do
We don't even have anyone that does I don't think you have one person who smokes occasionally
occasionally, yeah, I'm just saying so so I
As as as someone who's in a leadership position
it seems like most of you agree that I should not be allowed to discriminate based on something that I don't agree with and
I agree with you guys. Yeah
but it looks like a
Huge number more of you about another 25 percent of you or more say that if that person is in a leadership position
Whatever leadership means to you whether that is the effect it has on the culture of the office or the company or whether that
Is the external visibility of what they're doing?
That yes, it matters and that person should be pressured to leave to be completely honest. I back that a little bit
I don't know if I back at 100 cent but I back a little bit because like in this position
You're now jeopardizing the entire company. That's something that you've done. You know, I mean we've had conversations
I mean you guys don't see this on when show because
We're not gonna have it out about things like the direction of Linus media group in front of you guys
But we've had conversations where there's something you don't like or there's something you don't agree with and
Or you or anyone else or anyone else?
Like I like to feel like I'm very approachable here and if someone doesn't like something they can say Linus
That is a bloody stupid idea
Privilege not a right
That privilege does get used and I think that's important and I think that me being in a position where I?
can be questioned and
I want people to be on the same page as me creates a culture here where we agree and we work together
As opposed to feeling like if we're working with this person
We are furthering something that we don't believe in
Yeah, and I think that if we were to hire someone who doesn't fit with our culture
That is a big problem and I never it happens to be actually things that that's one of the reason why we can be so
Productive is even if there's been certain things that we've done that I don't agree with
I think there's been certain things that we've done that everyone in the company hasn't agreed with on some level
But we always find good compromises
Yeah, and we always find something that works really well
But the problem is that to me the only compromise on the gay marriage issue. Yeah is
That's not that's not a yeah ignore it
Yeah, that's not a problem that we then that's not a solution at all and neither party will be happy at all
And that's not that's not a compromise to me
But then as a as a company your standing is probably gonna have to be ignoring it, right?
But if you rely on donations, then you're in it, but then they don't oh, oh, I see what you mean by ignoring it
But then but then like it ties in because they're not ignoring it at that point
I've sort of what I meant more was a solution to the problem at all
I now figure like if we just let people do whatever they want and ignore what they're doing
Yeah
I thought you meant more like the company ignoring it
externally
because I think as a company you need to kind of back off of these things because it's very personal opinion and your company is
made up of a large group of people and
Speaking outward unless that's the whole goal of your company
Then that makes a lot more sense in my opinion. Oh
It comes down to how you want to run everything like isn't it chick-fil-a
Yes, really religious or whatever. Yeah, but then you're going into that knowing that that's what you're getting a part of this problem, too
is
Firefox is very always been very very open and accepting of everything. Yeah, and then that position is not open and accepting
So then it goes against the company's more like what people
Envision the company as not necessarily what the company has said they are
But what people envision the company as and what's something like everyone views these big companies as people. Yep
So we even get viewed that way a lot and you know what honestly, yeah
I might create another straw poll for this because we don't take a public stance on almost anything
No, I don't I don't know that we've ever taken a public stance on really anything. Let's ask to do computer
Yeah, unless it has to do with computer hardware, but my response to people when they've asked me, you know, what do you think about?
You know abortion or what do you think about this? What do you think about that is?
Look, I'm a tech personality. My personal life is my personal life and then when I'm at work
I talk about tech and it is my job to be opinionated about tech
But it is not my job to be opinionated about all this stuff and the response
When people press me is look, I'm not an expert
I actually don't know the ins and outs of a lot of these things like and not enough
Don't know enough about any of them including me and I'm not you know
I'm not personally acquainted with every person who's ever been afflicted with any of these
with any of these terrible situations that can occur on either side of the fence so and
Then I'm not talking specifically about gay marriage. I just mean in general. We don't really take a stance on things that aren't technology. So
Would you like us to is this is the question no
I'm gonna go
This is an interesting discussion topic, yep
I'm definitely clicking no though. That's just scary. Oh my god. It's not a slow-mo back on
No, okay. So guys here's the link slow mode is back on
I'm spamming the link so that y'all can y'all can see it there and those of you replying in the twitch chat guys
I'm not looking at that. It doesn't count. You have to reply to the straw poll. How is it?
How are we supposed like it all how are we supposed to do things here?
Alright, so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic
Well, we wait for the replies to roll in on that one, which happens to be technology
I
Forgot to update this with all the points and maybe a shield temporarily. Wait. Did we talk about this last week?
I thought we talked about this last week
Something else. Oh, I was gonna talk about it. Ah, so game stream working remotely. I was gonna try it
Some of your topics sometimes. Yeah, it's like what?
I know I know I know
Okay, so I meant to try remote game stream. I haven't had a chance yet. Okay, I've been too busy playing bravely default
I'll try this weekend
My problem is finding places that like because my parents have a crappy internet connection because we're like borderline
Farmville, all right. So speaking of me
Taking a stance on technology junk. Boom stance being taken
I didn't even know I was clicking on this link because it was mislabeled
This is a stupid solution
Okay
This is USB 3.1 type-c and I will give them this
Like this is this is not finalized, but it's final enough that they're willing to show renders now
Yeah, I will give them this USB 3.1 type-c. It's very beautiful. It's very elegant
It is even smaller than micro B and is going to give you up to 10 gigabit per second connectivity
Congratulations everything he's doing right now is when you're like walking up to the guy in a dining hall and you're hiding the knife and
You're trying to like shake his hands. You can stab them in the ribs that go right so you can get to the heart
That's what he's carefully walking to the person right now now he's gonna stab them
What the hell were you thinking? It still doesn't lock. It's still tiny and fragile
I mean, I don't like the lightning connector. It's not perfect. It's still USB 2. I mean, come on really Apple
It's still USB 2
But at least it managed to be less fragile than but probably the worst connector on
Anything any modern piece of electronics, which is micro USB
We're talking about something that goes beyond just you know
Plugging it in on your nightstand every night because cell phones
They don't last all day
So a lot of the time if you look at it and you go
Okay, this connector is rated for I forget how many it is. I think it's like three thousand five thousand or something like that
No, I don't know about the new one but micro USB
Micro USB 2 is rated for three thousand or five thousand or eight thousand or something like that something on the order of like not
tens of thousands, so
we're talking like a perfect scenario where like
This happens and then you like put it down
Okay, that's not how these things get you never you carry this every day. You're carrying portable battery banks
How popular are those these days you carry portable battery banks around and you kind of go oh crap
I'm down to 5% battery and you jam the thing in there and you're like, oh, what am I gonna do with this?
I have to be on a call
So you put like a portable battery in your shirt pocket and you got your phone here and the connectors hanging off of it
That is why small connectors are terrible and that is why we needed something more robust
Not just something that is reversible and there's a there's a render of it on a laptop or something like that
And I hope that wireless charging is gonna save me from these broken connectors that are stupid
But there you go. There's a render of what it looks like next to a USB 3 connector. Maybe I'm wrong
Maybe it's the smartest thing ever and it's amazing
but every tiny connector with a ton of pins that super thin that I've seen so far looking at you mini HDMI is a
Gigantic piece of garbage that weighs out it weighs out wears out extremely easily. So
Reversible great
Not that big of a deal on a micro connector
What am I gonna are we gonna are we gonna replace all the connectors on the back of my computer with these with these micro?
Connectors, is that gonna be better having tiny tiny plugs? Okay, like at least I could find it with my finger. How hard is it to?
How
hard is it to memorize which way the micro USB connector and your phone goes on and put a dot with a marker on the
One that goes up or something like that. Like this is not that big of a deal reversible. I think reversible is great
I think that is one of the cooler innovations of the lightning connector
But I think that having reversible at the cost of durability, which is another assumption
I can't quite judge it until it arrives until I hold it in my hands and break one because I will in the likelihood
Look at it
I'm done here. Let's talk about my video in the first release. We should do like Linus kills
All the all the time. I have like a like a like a deep dark
Torture scene where you just kill a cable
That's kind of creepy actually
It'd be kind of awesome probably because you could make it like deep dark torture scene
But then also funny so that it loses the edge now
I wouldn't actually care that much about micro USB if
You know if wireless charging were more ubiquitous and
This this is what kind of blew me away. Did you find some of the comments? I did and I ended up searching
Okay, I don't remember where they are. But if wireless charging was more widespread
I actually wouldn't care because if I only had to plug it in once every I don't know
Couple of months when I'm trying to load a custom ROM on the phone or something
Like if that was the only time I ever had to use the connector fine make it as tiny and fragile as possible
I don't care cuz I'm gonna be offloading all of my pictures automatically with bit torrent sync
Anyway, I'm gonna be syncing all of my songs with some other solution. Well, probably bit torrents and bit torrent sinks. Awesome
Yeah, I'm so I'm gonna be doing all of this wirelessly
Anyway, give me wireless charging so I don't have to worry about it
And and this is this is what blew me away because I've already had a conversation
I already told HTC that I will be slamming the fact that the M8 doesn't have wireless charging in my review because it can
It's not the metal backing. It's not really anything
They might have to make it a hair thicker or whatever else, but it could have had wireless charging
Maybe it would have been more expensive to make all that stuff
But I already told them I'm gonna be slamming it and their response was does it really matter?
And I was like, well, yeah, of course it matters and you kind of went well, I don't know does it
I mean lots of other major players don't have it yet. I'm like, yeah, but if you're gonna call it a Cadillac
Ultimate, you know wonderful device phone and it really is it's a fantastic phone
then it shouldn't be missing something that phones that cost half as much have and then I read the
Comments on this USB article and I've got people just being like well isn't wireless charging slow
like
Wireless charging will not replace a cable connection
Like okay my house for someone in this office already. Yeah, I know that for a fact
Where are some of the other ones? It's really long comment section. Look out. Look where your scroll bar is
Yeah, I couldn't find stuff
The issue is not the speed but that it creates more heat loss and that's bad for this or that and I had no idea
That there was so much negative sentiment towards wireless charging and I understand
HTC's a PR guys are related to social media for them
I think so not PR technically but I understand his perspective now because here I am
thinking it's obvious that wireless charging is fantastic and
Many people are opposed to it. I don't get the people being like, oh, but cables are so much better
It's like yeah. Well, you can use both like Ethernet is
Amazingly better than wireless
But you like both of them because they both are better in different situations
Obviously that's not exactly the same because for wireless charging you have to put it on a block or whatever
But if you can just like toss your phone somewhere and have it charging immediately instead of fighting with a cable all the time
Is that not a good thing?
We have someone in the office that I don't think has plugged in his phone since he got it
Because why would he he just has these wireless charging pads like $25 on eBay
So he just puts them all over the place then he's like, oh click
Whatever puts it puts away. Yes one down in the shoe. This is Brandon
He has one down in the shooting area one at his desk and one at home and it's like whenever he sits down at his
desk, nope
Whenever he's filming his phone's never even close to being dead
But I just had no idea that people thought it was bad and to the people saying, you know, what about the heat?
What about that? It's slow. It's not like it doesn't have a connector on it still
Don't use it
I love our compressor. I didn't even peek. Yeah, it's fantastic. You like peeked in real life. Yeah
I know I was like shrieking and I'm sorry for that. Yeah, whatever. All right, let's go back to our
Let's go back to our straw poll. This is interesting. So I always had a feeling this was the case
Only less than 30% of you want us to take a public stance on anything that isn't technology
And you know what that sounds about right to me and that's that I don't want us to take a public stance on anything
That isn't technology. That's the reason that I've always just completely
Avoided engaging in any type of conversation on that stuff because the way that I see it
We should form opinions about the things that we are experts on and not even that but in that kind of stuff
It's a lot more personal opinion based stuff and we can give them information
And then they can come up with their own opinion and that's how it should work
Anyways, and I guess if someone you know dug up my thousand-dollar contribution to the you know
And kittens foundation or something like that and was unhappy about it
Then I see you picked like the the most opposite thing as to what you would ever do
But this is an example of me avoiding giving really I don't think it's really funny because I don't think anyone has any idea
What I think about much of anything
I
Like I've I've seen people I've gotten some really wicked hate mail about how religious I am and I've gotten some really wicked hate
mail about how anti-religious I am
So that's to me the indication that I was gonna say like oh
I never heard you say a religious comment on a show at any point in time ever
So how would someone come up with that? I don't talk about it at all
No, so I think this this reinforces. Oh, I'm not even showing them the poll results
Okay, well this reinforces what I thought and that's that we just shouldn't get involved in things
So alright, so if someone digs up like a contribution then I guess I would have to deal with the fallout
And I guess if we lost viewers over it or you know lost people
Wanting to support what we're doing over it then that would be that but ultimately
I think that what we do should be about the work that we do and if you guys want to support what we're doing in
terms of reviewing notebooks or I actually have oh
I have a really cool topic coming up soon that I don't want to talk about because I'm sure someone else would make a
Video about we're like, it's gonna be a short show. I know right? Nope. No, no short show
Anyway, I think we're done with that people the people have spoken
They don't want to know what I think and that's fine by me. I completely agree
We weren't gonna start doing it anyway, yeah
Just so you know
Uh
Amazon Dash, do you know anything about this a little bit? I think this was added like during the show by by Dominic
So yeah, I think that was added by me and then I did none of the notes cuz I didn't have any time
All right. Let's talk about Amazon fire TV then so this is
Amazon's entry into the very old fire to me. I thought you're talking about dash. No, I thought you just said yeah
I don't know anything about dash though. I I didn't look into it. I hadn't seen the topic so
Okay, I'm gonna talk about fire TV since I know something about that
So fire TV is there $99 set-top box available now and the reviews are pretty much
Already in it is a streaming device. So it supports, you know Hulu Netflix
Amazon's video streaming service, of course, it is a relatively powerful device
So it has a quad-core processor and two gigs of RAM at $99.99
No less
Mind you I would make the argument that something like an Nvidia shield makes a ton of sense for twice the price
Given that it is also portable. Yeah, just throwing that out there
It has wireless and it has support for oh, yeah in addition to what I already said
It has support for Vimeo MLB TV and NBA
It is probably according to user reviews
It looks like it is pretty much the best solution hands down for Amazon's own instant video streaming service
but much like
Every other streaming device on the market in holy cow
Are there a lot of them?
It lacks a certain level of polish at launch and a certain level of integration with popular apps that people are using
So one of the big features that they're talking about here is the voice control that you can use to search for content and play it
back
Voice control that only works within Amazon's library. Yeah, but
The word on the street is that it's actually at Netflix's own request
That their voice control is not searching Netflix's own library and that's kind of weird
One of the other things that Amazon so so right now
Whatever the reason is that feature is not necessarily it's kind of half-baked
And then the other thing that's supposed to be really cool about it
Is it's supposed to help you do all of your comparative shopping without you having to actually look up each of the individual services
So if you want to watch something then you search for it and it should tell you where you can watch it for cheapest
You know, what's getting frustrating?
I don't see this on the supported list here and as far as I know there could have been an update or something
But as far as I know it doesn't work on
Chromecast either but twitch
Where's twitch?
Twitch is not on the radar for
Like executives who don't understand they like streaming twitch needs to push and get themselves on the radar. Do they
I
Want them to be on the radar. I mean, okay because right now it's like the only thing I really watch on my TV is
They have an iOS app
They have an Android app. Okay, so they made those themselves. Yes
So anything running on a platform like iOS or Android which let's face it is lots of stuff. Yeah
With the exception of things like Apple TV, which it still baffles me can't install apps
Ah anyway
Doesn't that take care of most people
Yes, and no because a lot of the people that are gonna be buying Chromecast are gonna be fairly technical
But they could just push from their Android or their browser
It's not as good though. Yeah, it's not like nearly as good
You need to be able to actually work with the Chromecast screen streaming is not nearly as strong as just pushing through the app. I
Don't like come on I want this to work the someone someone might be proving me wrong
Maybe there's an update for Chromecast as of now which works with XBMC. Yeah. Okay, that's not
XBMC is kind of a big deal though. XBMC runs on some of these other devices within their own operating systems
Like for example Pevos is
You can run XBMC either natively right on the device or you can run it as an app with an Android personally
The only one I really care about this might even sound kind of bad
But the only one I really care about is Chromecast though
Cuz I'm not interested in really playing Android games on my TV. And if I am I'm just gonna use my shield
Because that makes sense and the Chromecast is 35 bucks. Yeah, it's so hard to compete with it's $35
Like it's super cheap and you get free shipping from Amazon. So it's like it's actually just 35 bucks
So back to back to Amazon
Speaking of Amazon
They are they are touting it as a gaming platform as well and you can get a gamepad for $39.99
Although and I haven't verified this one of the reviews seems to indicate that you can't use third-party game pads with it, which is a disaster
It should just work with any Bluetooth gamepad because by the time I buy this for $99.99 plus a $40 gamepad
I could pick up a shield for $200 use any old Bluetooth controller and I've paid maybe a hundred bucks for something
that is runs on batteries is
Much more flexible and as in like console mode is actually pretty usable with a powered USB hub
Which you can get on Amazon for like eight bucks and an on-the-go connector
I was able to set it up so that my shield can be perpetually powered and perpetually have all my peripherals plugged into it
Yay
Dan like it just kind of works. I know I pimp shield a lot, but it really is a fantastic device
The second one I'm super excited for whatever shield to ends up being I'm still not sold on the way you hold it
Okay fair enough your hands are not the same as my head
Yeah, and like but and like that could change in number two or it can't and I'll just get used to it
I don't know. It's fine. And one thing that's that I'm not super sold on as well is a lot of games for Android
This is not on the game streaming front
But the Android gaming front are not designed to be able to control the controller
No, but they do have the remapping
Yeah, but a lot of them like you have to tap on the screen really quickly, but I don't need the screen tapping ability
I don't care because I haven't really found any Android games that light my light my fire
Yeah, yeah
I found a few but like I ended up playing through one and I found myself holding the shield in the weirdest way possible
Because I had to hold the screen of the shield like a phone
Yeah, I know to be able to it's all like this is really weird
That's really awkward and I made it work, but it was like, okay, this is weird
I mean for me, it's one of those things where 95% of what I do on shield is watching videos or using game stream
Yeah, and then and then it's a great device for that
But then that brings back the point that I was talking about where I don't really understand or agree with the fact that it has
all this Android
Android in it and then all of the stuff that has to be in there like the hardware to support Android
they could have made a way cheaper device that just supports game stream, but then
Who cares it's not only 200 bucks. Yeah, 200 bucks is very so like for it
okay, so let's get into
Not game stream, but a game streaming technologies in general
Yeah, yeah whether the game or is there anything else that we're missing that we there's just dash
But I don't know if anyone really cares whatever. Okay, so is the gaming laptop dead?
I did a review this week of the MSI GS 60 and gaming laptops have come so far
Contrasting that with my GX 660. I think is the model
MSI gaming laptop
So I was able to look like snapshot MSI three years ago gaming laptop MSI today gaming laptop
The old one ran hotter way hotter was much slower was like twice the overall thickness
Looked stupid as all hell and the new one is this slim sexy cool running design with better battery life
And just is better display is better in every possible way
And I ran a game on it to test and videos new battery saving feature for mobile GPUs that what it does
Is it limits your frame rate?
So if your notebook is on battery and it's still powerful enough to run a game at a
60 frames per second and you kind of go well, no, hold on a second
I'd rather have longer battery life and turn down my GPU and
I'm okay with 30 frames per second to get more battery life. Sorry blasphemous. That's me. I know right, but if you did, okay
well, okay, I'll give you a different example if it runs at 120 frames per second and
Your display is only 60 hertz then whatever
Yeah
You might as well turn it down so you can you can save that extra battery life and Nvidia is claiming up to 2x
Improvements in battery life by using this feature
so I set to work trying out the feature and I ran with it on and then I ran without it on and not only
Did I only get about two minutes of extra battery life, which is within margin of error at that point pretty much
But I only got less than an hour of battery life out of both of them
So I kind of looked at it and I went well hold on a second
I mean, what is a gaming laptop a gaming laptop to me is a portable machine that is capable of gaming
But suffers from battery life that is just abysmal when you're actually trying to use it for gaming
could they make a gaming laptop that has the power the hardware of the gs60 and like
Doubles the size and just fills it with battery. I guess so, but the battery technology hasn't gotten to the point
Yeah, we'll be able to charge that laptop. Yeah a reasonable amount of time
You know battery technology is lagging behind like everything by a law and it's holding things back
And then I realize something do I need a powerful GPU in my laptop anymore?
Stream you can use a hardware based decoder that's already in your onboard graphics and
When you're at home, you can stream that game to yourself
With low enough latency that with my last experience with it, although I haven't gone wireless yet. I actually just bought. Where is it?
I actually just bought an AC wireless card for my for my ultra book so that I can
Try steam in home streaming with AC
But if I can stream the games to myself at home
Do I need it that badly when I'm on the go and if I'm on the go, what are the odds?
I'll be somewhere where I can get a hardline
Connection and I can stream it to myself remotely because I know we haven't tried remote streaming for shield yet
Neither of us have no, but I've tried grid beta. Yeah, which is far enough away that like it's
Surprisingly good. Yeah, given how far away it is
Data is flowing down when doing that
They're saying you want five megabit up and down both ways. There's a lot of situations. Maybe not you
Yeah, so maybe you don't need one, but I think there's a lot of situations where now personally I've never bought a game laptop
Yeah, exactly but I like but I've never been interested in gaming laptops
That's not because I could replace it before it's because I just was I hated that experience
It was just like nope
but everyone that I know that would buy a gaming laptop or
Has bought a gaming laptop would still buy one because they're a lot of the places that they're using it
They're not able to get that five megabit connection fair enough. Maybe in certain city hubs and stuff like that
You're able to get a lot of times but I know it's a lot of school connections. Yeah, they're gonna throttle individual connections
Totally food bar, you're not gonna be able to get it when you're at school
I mean you're a lot of time you're not gonna be able to get it when you're at a coffee shop
All these kind of things so you still want so you want to be able to game
When you only have power because ultimately it's not like you can game on the thing when you don't have a power outlet
I mean 40 minutes is that you can't even play around a League of Legends necessarily
Yeah, I know and I've actually seen people have problems with it
But it's I find it easier to get a power
Connection that is good and like say you're in a car and you're going on a road trip
This is not as common as the other
Scenarios I was giving you but if you're chilling in the back of the car on a road trip
It is potential that you could trickle off of the car. Yeah, you can yeah
Yeah, and you're not gonna be able to get get a couple hours out of it or whatever
Yeah, and you're gonna be moving too quickly that you're probably gonna get a crap tastic mobile connection if one at all terrible
Yeah, so like I think there's still situations for it
But then everything that I just laid out is things that are gonna be again
Not me and and probably not you and things that are going to probably very soon
No longer be problems, right?
Whether it's the the school scenarios that are talking about where those connections are probably just gonna get faster as they have been and then
That's not gonna matter or if it comes down to the the car scenario that I talked about where Korea is already working on that
Yeah creating that insane
Mobile wireless standard which will make it so you could be moving as fast as a bullet train and it won't even matter
So at one point in time
Well, you know, hopefully not super long future all of my hold backs are not gonna matter
That's up right now. I can still see the merits. I never see myself gaming on the go and
When I'm at home like even if I'm at home like I'm on the couch or whatever
I don't feel like going and getting my charger
No
Would I use steam in home streaming or would I play natively on the device the heat output when you're playing on it?
Yeah, and the additional battery life that you can get by streaming using this instead of a GPU
It's tangible in your house. Definitely for sure. I definitely agree with that and like honestly you said
On the run like even if you're gonna game and all that kind of stuff and even in your house
2ds
It's cheap as all crap. I can play it anywhere
Austin Evans is video calling me. Should I just like
Should I just take it sure is there like 10 billion people apparently it was probably a misclick man
I'll be like sup
It was probably a misclick. He probably just tried to video call like everyone on his contacts because that's a lot of people
Kind of is anyway, I think we're pretty much done with the show for today
This was fantastic for me. Anyway, I hope it was as good for you
But
That awkward moment
On that disturbing note peace out guys. Thank you for tuning in. We're sorry. We were late once again
We will have the for those of you who didn't catch the entire show
We will have the archive up fairly shortly. And I think that's pretty much it. Bye guys. Bye everyone
I
Love how you know that you're talking and the mic is on and you still do it you do
Well, I'm quiet