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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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But also it says live and excellent condition.
I love this so much.
Hey Jake.
Oh, he wandered off.
Okay, I'm just gonna snap.
This is probably the quickest way for me to do this.
I'm just gonna snap a quick picture of this
cause this is hilarious.
We have a call with them probably next week.
Like we actually have a contact at YouTube
that's like actively working on the development
of this panel.
And yeah, we were like straight up honest with them.
We were like, look, the way that it's so confusing to use
cause the way it messages things is terrible.
Like it's undecipherable.
And so me getting like excellent connection live
by the way there's a problem.
You can't do that.
Anyway, we're live.
Welcome to the Wang Show ladies and gentlemen.
We've got a fantastic show for you guys today.
The NSA has revealed a major flaw
in Microsoft's Windows operating system.
Apple may be forced to ditch the lightning connector.
Luke got banned by Blizzard for six months.
Well, I'm fascinated to hear about it.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, it's a great story.
And you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
Windows 7 is dead.
Dead as a doornail, dead as.
I mean, you can still use it.
Yeah, you can still use it, but like.
People used XP for a long time.
They did.
They shouldn't anymore.
No.
Yeah, but you should really not boot a Windows XP
operating system on your network.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's roll that intro.
Go, go, go.
This one's gonna be a small foot.
Oh yeah.
10 of 10.
This one's gonna be small.
Wait.
Oh, it's still unlisted.
I forgot it's in public.
Well, whatever.
We're not starting over.
Buzzers for the show today.
That Hubble bundle.
That fresh book.
Oh, what's up?
Oh, you've gotta be kidding me.
I forgot about that.
Oh wow, crap.
Um.
Wow, yeah.
I can talk about Apple being forced to ditch lightning.
Oh, I wanna talk about that though.
Okay.
When do we need to do that?
How long is it?
I don't know.
Okay, can you find that out?
Like how set up is it?
If I can, as long as I can just sprint over there,
say it, and then run back over here, we should be fine.
All right, so why don't we jump right
into our headline topic?
The NSA reveals a major flaw in Microsoft Windows.
At a press conference, the U.S. National Security Agency,
everyone's best friend, announced that,
I mean, you know, you confide everything
to your best friends.
Yeah.
You know, your best friend is always kinda like
hanging around, watching out for you.
Very, very closely.
You know, your best friend.
Puts listening devices in your home.
Anyway, the NSA announced it has discovered
a major flaw in Windows 10.
That's normal, right?
It's not clear how long they knew about the vulnerability
before revealing it to Microsoft,
but the bugs revealed were within
Windows Remote Desktop Gateway Co.
Okay, how?
That's not good.
Remote desktop.
Riddle me this.
Okay.
You know a thing or two about online security, right?
Sure.
Okay.
You probably know enough to know this.
Okay.
If there's anything in your operating system
that needs to be bulletproof.
Yeah, yep.
Wouldn't you think it would be the one
that literally gives you,
as though you are sitting in front of it,
access to the machine?
Yeah.
Can I take a quick aside here for a second?
You just asked, you know a thing or two
about online security.
Yeah.
There's a bone that I have to pick
with some of our audience.
Oh.
That has been picked by AJ,
but then after it has been picked by AJ,
they just tend to vanish.
Yes.
And then they come back later when AJ's not around
and they attack again,
and then AJ's like, hey, I see you.
Is this float plane related?
That it is.
Okay, what are they mad about now?
So we have a maximum character count on our passwords.
Yeah, okay.
It's like 72 or something.
I don't remember what it is.
It's really high.
Okay.
Some people try to set passwords that are higher than that,
and then point at other websites and say like,
you can do it there.
That means better security.
A lot of really good encryption protocols
can only go up to a certain amount.
Right.
You can allow it to accept passwords
that are beyond that amount,
but it will just cut them off at 72
or whatever the character count is.
Really?
It just slices it off.
So if you go to like Hacker News,
you can put in a password that's really long,
and then you can go up to the character count limit
and just type whatever you want past the end,
and it doesn't matter.
That's not better security.
Come on.
I'm not like an absolute expert of this stuff,
but this is not difficult to understand.
And like, ugh.
Also 72 is lots.
I don't remember exactly what it is.
Okay, whatever.
But it's very high.
Yeah, okay.
It's lots.
Yeah, okay.
Anyways, that's just, you know, I just, ugh.
Thanks, Luke.
We get very aggressive tweets every once in a while,
so I'm gonna be like, this is unacceptable.
How's your chest?
Does it feel lighter?
Yeah, a little bit.
Anyways, back to the NSA and Windows.
All right, so the vulnerability in Windows Remote Desktop,
like the one thing you gotta go through with a fine tooth,
you know, like a likes comb, you know?
And is like definitely included on server versions.
So there's two separate bugs.
Identified as CVE-2020-06-09.
Nice.
And CVE-2020-06-10.
They are particularly dangerous,
as while they are not yet exploited,
they could be used to remotely execute code
on targeted RDP servers before the gateway
even attempts to authenticate them.
Nice.
The public disclosure represents a major change
in the NSA's approach, choosing to put computer security
ahead of building up its arsenal of hacking tools
that allow the agency to spy on adversaries' networks.
Past bugs like this were stockpiled
by the NSA as attack vectors,
but eventually leaked to hacking groups for malicious use,
notably Eternal Blue and WannaCry.
Microsoft and the NSA reported
that they have seen no active exploitation of the flaw,
and the latest Windows patch addresses 48 vulnerabilities,
five of which were related to Windows Remote Desktop.
Okay, apparently I have to run over there
and just yell at the microphone for about 20 seconds.
Long story short, there's a product coming out
and we filmed our review,
and then a competitor has a product
that competes with this product,
and they adjusted their pricing like an hour and a half ago,
and our video is already shot,
so I have to go and do something.
Are you just ghetto voiceovering?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, so hard.
Nice.
I actually really enjoy that when you watch a video
and they clearly said something the first time,
and then there's like, say he says $95,
and he's like, $150,
and it goes back to the cadence that was there before.
I don't know why, but I find that highly entertaining.
Not gonna lie, I wasn't fully paying attention
to what Linus was saying before he left,
so I don't actually remember where he was on this,
so I'm just gonna pick it up,
and if I'm reiterating what he said previously, I apologize.
The public disclosure represents a major change
in the NSA's approach, choosing to put computer security,
oh he did say this,
ahead of building up his arsenal of hacking tools
that allow the agency to spy on adversaries' networks.
This is good, because I can pretty much bet you
at least some of their systems are running on Windows.
I know for a fact that a decent amount
of the American government systems in general,
even if they're not the NSA's, are running on Windows,
and I mean, things are better secure than insecure.
If you set up a way to access something in an unauthorized
way, that can also be used as an attack vector, always.
Like, you can't just know that it will be used by yourself.
So, yeah, getting this fixed is good overall.
Microsoft and the NSA reported that they have seen
no active exploitation of the flaw, that's great.
I hope they get it fixed before that happens.
The latest Windows patch, which we downloaded and installed
on the streaming computer right before the stream,
and I was scared that the streaming computer was gonna
work, wasn't gonna work.
The latest Windows patch addressed 48 vulnerabilities,
five of which were related to Windows remote desktop.
That is terrifying.
I am still extremely uncomfortable with Windows 10.
I've talked about it a ton on this show in the past.
I am running Windows 10 personally at home now.
The thing that usually ends up getting me
to push operating systems ends up being games,
and my roommate and a bunch of other people wanted to play
the new Call of Duty, and you can't do that on Windows 8.1,
which was my preferred operating system.
You can do it on Windows 7, which is interesting,
but yeah, you can do it on Windows 8.1,
which was kind of a bummer.
I don't wanna do the Apple forced to ditch
the lightning connector thing,
because Linus said he wanted to talk about that.
I don't think there's gonna be a ton of conversation
on this one, so I'll dive into that.
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
Windows 7 is dead thing.
You can still use Windows 7, to be clear.
It is just insecure.
Official support for Windows 7 has ended
as of Tuesday, January 14th, 2020.
The hugely popular OS, that's a little understated,
will continue to get security updates for companies
who pay $25 to $200 per workstation for the privilege,
but end users are SOL due to the end of life clause.
Whoa, he's back.
If you could pay $25 to $200 as a user,
not as a workstation, so like for your home PC,
and you were like a diehard into, ooh, yes.
Software as a service?
Yep, let's do it.
To keep using Windows 7.
Yeah.
Did they ever add DirectX 12?
I don't know if they did universally.
I know definitely some games that are DX 12
work on Windows 7.
Right, but in DirectX 11 mode.
I haven't done it, because I haven't ran
Windows 7 in a long time, so I'm not sure.
What are you running now?
You're on Windows 8, aren't you?
8.1.
I was on 8.1 for a long time.
I've recently poured over.
Oh no, you didn't!
Yeah.
Oh, you finally did it.
I had installed, do you remember when my 8.1
like black screen bricked, and then I installed Mint,
and then I was like, this is too tedious,
so I installed another operating system?
That other operating system was Windows 10,
just because I was like, it doesn't really matter.
All I really use is like Word, Excel, and a web browser.
Yeah.
So whatever, so I just did it.
And then my laptop was also Windows 10,
so I was like outnumbered with my own personal devices.
You know what?
Personal use, I'm gonna say no.
I'm gonna say no, because the only justification
for me to pay for an operating system
is for it to have some kind of,
it has to enable me to do something
that I otherwise couldn't do.
I mean, for me, the operating system is just something
that mostly gets out of my way.
Yeah.
And there are things about Windows 10
that are super obnoxious.
It drives me nuts to this day that I have to,
what is it, an extra two clicks
to get into my network connection settings.
Like just stupid, asinine things.
Like I wanna know what the link speed of my wifi is.
I don't wanna, right click, then this, then this,
then this, then this other thing status.
Like it just takes too long to do something.
Audio settings, annoying to get to.
Basically all of the settings
are really annoying to get to.
Super frustrating and still not consolidated.
Like some of it's in the old style control panel,
some of it's in the Metro UI style control panel.
Like finish your job at some point.
I have always hated this.
And like, I've been switched to Windows 10
for a little while now.
It's been like eight years.
Yeah.
But this type of UI design,
I don't know if you wanna show that or not.
Hold on, yeah sure.
That's probably fine.
I don't like this.
Yeah, well Metro.
I don't think it looks good.
I have never thought it looks good.
Yeah.
Aggressively boxy and the majority of the time
they're just like only text.
Really flat.
Or text with a box out of lines around it.
Remember Aero Glass?
Aero Glass was sweet.
Aero Glass was sweet.
Vista still looks so good.
It does.
So anyway, for me, the operating system when I'm at home
is just to get out of my way.
And I actually, on a machine that's working,
one that I'm not tinkering with,
I access that stuff shockingly rarely.
Like on my, the computer I actually, wow.
The computer I actually use the most now
is the VR gaming rig connected to my TV in my living room.
Yeah.
Go figure.
I never would have seen that coming.
I use my laptop a fair bit,
but like only at work.
Oh no.
Okay, I lied.
My workstation at work I use the most.
I'm gonna tangent again.
Oh wow, okay.
I have to crush your heart a little bit.
What's this?
Jayden just decided to randomly get the song
you were playing on.
What a monster.
On Beat Saber after you played it.
And I don't know why it's not loading right now,
but yeah, he 100%ed it on expert, full combo, no misses.
It was a good live stream though.
Expert plus 100%.
Anyway, I will address that later.
Oh, there it is.
There it goes.
Oh, whatever.
Anyway, so yeah, I, so, okay.
That is so off topic.
Wancho, I guess.
So where my position changes on this.
Oh no, you said your VR PC.
That's why.
Yeah, so my VR PC is the one that I probably used the most
aside from maybe my workstation, which I use for work.
And I almost never dink around with anything.
Like once I've got everything configured.
Yeah, once I've got Steam VR set up
to properly switch which audio devices
when I open and close VR.
Now that I don't actually try to use my PC to watch movies,
now that I just use Plex through the Nvidia Shield,
all my Harmony stuff is like perfect.
It goes to sleep.
It wakes up properly with that ancient Microsoft IR receiver
from like way back like 2002, 2003, still using that thing.
It's freaking awesome.
Still has driver support.
So I just don't really touch that stuff.
So all I really do with Windows is go down
to the task manager to like open a thing.
Yeah.
And that's it.
Like that's the only purpose it serves for me.
So at home, the only thing I could really possibly care
about is that it like supports the stuff I wanna use.
And I use pretty new stuff, so I guess that's fine.
And even if I used older stuff, if it was for personal use,
most of the personal use type things like a webcam
or a printer costs so little compared
to paying a maintenance fee for your operating system
that you are probably better off replacing that.
With that said, if I was a business,
particularly a small business,
like I had a neighbor before that ran a sign making business
out of his garage and he had like CNC software
and electronics design software
that only ran on Windows XP.
And so for him, the cost of upgrading compared
to the cost of maintaining a software,
maintaining an operating system could actually be far more.
Like that could convince him to spend $25 a year on-
So my one argument there would be-
Or in his case, Windows XP, but like-
Does he even need that connected to the internet?
No.
Yeah, so then he can just run XP and-
Right, but okay, let's say in a case
where it was like a production system.
Yeah, and there are those airport terminals
are really common for it.
Yeah, that's a really great example.
Or even just an office that's just full of people
who just type documents all day
and absolutely do not need new computers.
Like the cost of outfitting an entire office
with new computers compared to the cost
of spending $25 a year per seat for five years.
Yeah, and then just replace it when it's dead style.
Exactly, exactly, I mean there are-
I would gladly pay a fee to be able
to keep using Windows 8.1.
Really, but you switched to Windows 10 voluntarily now.
You have to justify that, you have to explain that.
You brought up the compatibility issue.
Oh, okay.
My friends wanted to play a game.
I couldn't play the game with them.
Like, okay, well this is pretty lame.
Cause like at this point I play most games
for like social reasons.
Right, so I looked it up and yes,
Microsoft did port DirectX 12 to Windows 7,
but only for certain games.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, so you were right about that.
I was pretty unsure, but yeah.
How much would you pay?
I would definitely pay within that range.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I think Windows 10 definitely gives me
more grief than that cost is worth.
If that makes sense.
What has it done to you lately?
Is it that bad?
For some, everything worked perfectly
before I moved to Windows 10
and I have done three reformats since this,
trying to figure out what the problem is
and installing not all programs every time,
trying to narrow it down,
but it hitches like crazy.
Really?
And will randomly like freeze.
All screens will completely freeze.
And then any game that is in full screen windowed mode
will and become a window.
And I have no idea why.
I've tried various Nvidia drivers.
I've tried like everything.
And it just, I think Windows 10 just hates me personally
at this point.
That does seem to be the only rational conclusion.
Everything was perfect in Windows 8.1.
And then now I just have a variety of issues.
I find like one thing that I do fairly often
is we'll watch like a show through my computer
because I don't have a TV yet.
And I'll switch the audio source to my speakers.
And that's just annoying every single time
because going into the settings
and doing all this kind of stuff,
it's way simpler.
Is that an external program?
Sound switch, yeah, it's a super, super lightweight.
You can just set a hotkey.
Oh, okay, that's cool.
Yeah, so that's what I was using
back when I was using wireless headphones
on the TV sometimes.
Well, I don't know if I ever actually ended up using them,
but I set up wireless headphones on the TV
and then realized that nobody in the entire building
I live in ever sits and watches TV alone.
When people are consuming content alone,
it's generally on a tablet or a phone.
And when they're consuming it together,
they don't wear headphones.
So those headphones have just been sitting there
for like two years or three years or whatever.
But when I set it up, I got sound switch.
Oh, and back when the audio switching for VR was a flakier,
like in the very, very early launch days of the HTC Vive,
I would use sound switch to like fix it if it glitched out.
Just like, hey, switch over to the other thing.
There's other stuff that's just kind of annoying
on probably a more like principle kind of level.
Yeah.
Like the start menu just being so stupid.
Yeah, the search is so bad.
And Windows 8.1 search was great.
My favorite one now is when I search for teams, T-E-A-M-S,
my first result is always team viewer.
And my second result is always Microsoft teams.
And it's like, it's your own software
and your own search can't prioritize it.
And I put the S in, I'm not searching T-E-A-M.
Which if you did, team viewer coming up first.
Makes perfect sense, cause I use it all the time.
T-E-A-M-S and it comes up with team viewer.
I can't actually show it here.
I don't think this has teams on it.
Or team viewer, apparently.
And then it searches it.
And like, even if you have a tough time finding it,
I never want you to search it.
I am never going to search something online
with the start menu.
That will never, ever happen.
Right, but you're an advanced user.
I don't care.
Give me the option to control this.
Let me turn search, web search off in the search menu.
I don't, maybe, I just haven't found it.
I mean, the settings menu sucks, so I'm not sure.
The thing about Windows is,
if you're willing to go in and play around with regedit,
it's actually very customizable.
So you use Linux.
It's actually very customizable.
No, not necessarily.
That's not always the solution.
You're going pretty far.
Okay, you're talking about,
you want to play a game with your friends.
Linux ain't necessarily the solution there.
That is definitely a little bit more work.
Yes, that is a fair bit more work
than going into regedit and tweaking an animation speed
or a whatever.
The first thing that I did that required a reformat
was I followed the Linus Tech Tips Windows 9 guide,
which destroyed everything and was horrible.
You guys need to add a thing on the forum
that says don't do this.
Oh, is it bad now?
Yes, very.
Because it was great when we first did it.
I'm sure.
Oh.
Like honestly, our export server is still running that.
I don't know.
Maybe it works better with updates later on.
Maybe Windows just hates you in general.
Maybe that.
Maybe that.
Because we've never gotten another complaint about that.
One of the software, I don't remember what it was.
You had to get it from GitHub.
Yeah.
It's just super out of date and deprecated.
And there's a few things like that
where applying them now might not really work as well.
But if you had them and you were updating with it,
maybe Windows handles it better.
I'm not sure.
Or Windows just hates me.
I'm happy with either of those explanations at this point.
Windows 8.1 loves me though.
And I abandoned it.
So basically, how far did you get into this?
So unless you're willing to pay a bunch of money,
which I think we can probably both agree
that unless it's for business reasons,
you probably can't really justify it.
Yeah.
Um, so unless you're willing to pay,
you are SOL or so we thought.
So a bypass has been found
that enables extended support updates for end users
by bypassing the ESU key check.
Unknown how long this will work for.
I mean, Microsoft has demonstrated in the past
that they're willing to turn a blind eye
to end users working around their checkpoints,
but not necessarily on everything.
So one of the most famous examples of them
just sort of pretending not to notice something
is the free upgrade from Windows 7
or Windows 8 to Windows 10.
They said, hey, we're gonna end it at this time.
Then they extended it formally,
if I recall correctly, by some period.
Then they either extended it again
or they just ignored it.
And then they just never, ever, ever turned it off.
So to this day, you can install Windows 7,
free upgrade it to Windows 10,
or you can just install Windows 10,
use a Windows 7 product key,
just like enter it, add install, it'll just work.
It treats them all complete.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I did it the other day.
Even once your Windows 10 is already installed,
you can like go to activate.
And I was able, so I changed the hardware
in my VR gaming machine and I needed to reactivate Windows
because it got mad.
So the problem is that I hadn't actually dealt with that
in a long time because I hadn't upgraded my personal rig
in like three or four years or something like that.
It had been quite a while
and they've made a lot of changes.
So it is still possible to retain your license
from one hardware set to another.
As far as I can tell, although I didn't successfully do it
because it looks like you have to de-register it first.
I will say one thing that was kind of nice is I did the,
instead of doing the I want to use a offline account thing,
I used my actual Microsoft account every time.
And I, in this whole move,
like I'm moving to Windows 10 or whatever,
I'm going to be like, I'm going to be super legit.
I'm going to buy a key properly through my Microsoft account,
all that kind of stuff.
And I kept the keys in my email somewhere.
So I kept on just being like, I don't have a key,
but then when I signed in, it would just grab it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was a nice, that was a nice experience.
But that means that you have to de-register it.
Yeah, but I didn't have to, is what I'm saying.
But you didn't change the hardware.
That's, oh, okay.
To move from hardware to hardware, okay, okay, okay.
So the only way for me to do that
would have been to rebuild up the whole computer,
de-register it, and I was just,
it's a small form factor machine.
I was just like, no, I can't do this.
So out of desperation, I had an old Windows 7 Ultimate key.
And I was like, what happens if I, activated?
No problem, Windows 10 Pro, bibbidy boppity,
there you go.
Yep, Windows 10 Pro.
Well, I had Windows 10 Pro installed,
so I knew I was going to need something
other than Windows 7 Home.
I'm pretty sure that transition doesn't work.
So yeah, so the work around that everyone, I think,
knows about then is because Windows 7,
is that because Windows 7 was so easy to pirate,
if you pirate Windows 7 and then upgrade to Windows 10,
you end up with a legit Windows 10 install.
And so Microsoft has had every opportunity under the sun
to block that off over the last few years,
but they just, for whatever reason, didn't do it.
And we made a video about this recently on Tech Quickie.
It was like the most explosive Tech Quickie we've ever made.
People loved it, people hated it.
It got 2.2 million views in the first few days.
What was it?
Which is crazy for Tech Quickie.
The title was, why is Windows 10 free now?
And basically some people got really mad
because they were like, well, it's not free, that's piracy.
How many views does it have now?
2.3, I think.
2.375, that's nuts for Tech Quickie.
And so people were mad because they were like,
this is promoting software piracy.
And actually, if you watch the video,
we never say that it's the right thing to do.
We just say that Microsoft has had every opportunity
to close this off and they haven't done it.
And then we speculate as to why that might be,
including some backup from statements that Microsoft
and their leadership have made publicly
about how Windows 10 is gonna be the last Windows.
And it's more about the install base
and it's more about building out the ecosystem.
And it's less about trying to milk people for $126
or whatever an OEM Windows license cost
every two to three years.
They've accepted that they're moving away from that model
and they're moving towards this more cloud-focused one.
And honestly, you look at the profits,
it seems to be going just fine
in spite of them not selling as many Windows licenses
and new machine licensing fees aren't going anywhere.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I've been convinced for a long time
that it's not about selling to users
that are building their own computers and stuff.
I think they've essentially never cared.
We're such a minority of a minority.
But exactly, and if they can just shut us up
by being like, just take your stupid free operating system,
that's almost certainly gonna be better for them
in the long run.
As long as they're making money somewhere else,
but yes, and they've shifted, so they are.
Selling OEM licenses and doing all these other things
makes way more sense.
Like, oh yeah, you're all used to using Windows
because it's free, ha ha ha ha.
And then now you have to pay for it when you buy a laptop.
I mean, how else were they gonna maintain their dominance?
Because I don't think that in a world where Apple
doesn't charge for operating system updates,
in a world where Linux is continuing to get better
and better and better,
they were gonna be able to keep charging you $100
and $150 every couple of years forever.
That wasn't going to happen.
Some guy's having an aneurysm
because he's telling me to change the audio output
through the volume icon on the taskbar.
I know, but it's like too many steps, that's my whole point.
Yeah.
It was just easier on 8.1.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, it's just like more stupid things.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right, so what else do we have to talk about?
For those who have hardware no longer supported,
try out Linux, hey, there you go.
But don't stick with Windows 7
if you can at all help it.
That is really important.
Security is a big deal and you ain't gonna have it.
That NSA flaw is a perfect example
of how even though it's older software at this point,
there are still absolutely exploits
and bugs that are being found.
So whatever it is that you are updating to,
we did a video about this on LTT a little while ago,
it should be something.
So for now there's the ESU key bypass, check bypass.
No idea how long that'll work.
For the future though, you're gonna have to do something.
I mean, 8.1 I think has another couple of years left on it.
Not much though, actually, now that I think about it.
When's 8.1 end of support?
It's, I mean, it's already kind of lost
a lot of different forms of support, just not security.
January 10, 2023.
But it like, it didn't get DX 12.
It's not getting other stuff.
It's, the user base is so small.
Like, I don't know.
Oh, no, end of mainstream support January 9, 2018.
End of extended support January 10, 2023.
Yeah, it's basically completely abandoned at this point.
So Windows 10 is the only Windows.
It's all there is to it.
You can like it or you can put a lot of work
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Did you like my Twitter post from an hour ago?
I actually did not see your Twitter post from an hour ago.
Why?
I thought it was pretty good.
What are you posting on the Twitter now?
The LTT Twitter has been so mean.
It's mostly this guy.
So mean.
Do you want your tech tip?
I have tech tip for you.
In your opinion, if we did a blind key switch challenge,
which switch must be included?
It's free real estate.
Oh, thank you very much for that, lttstore.com.
Yeah, all right, all right, all right.
Have a good weekend.
Get out of here.
Honestly, like I just,
I have such a hard time ascending to that level of memory.
It's been, it's been pretty in.
Nick can do it.
Jake can do it.
Yeah.
Alex P, A prime.
You guys will probably know him as
in the credits on the videos.
Those three are probably like peak memory around here.
Yeah, the meme masters.
The meme council.
Council of memers.
Council of memes.
You can join the council,
but we will not give you the rank of master.
Apple may be forced to ditch the lightning connector.
So the word on the street is the EU will be voting
on regulations that will require all mobile devices
to use a single universal charging method.
Can I jump in and say, I hate this.
Honestly, I'm really surprised.
So please continue.
Okay, why don't, okay,
why don't we get through the rest of this?
Okay.
Well, no, no, you know what?
No, we're not going to.
I hate this.
Is it a stifling innovation angle?
Not necessarily because I think stifling innovation
has become like a buzzword that just means allowing,
that means forcing us to not act in a non-competitive manner
like stifling innovation has just become,
it's meaning has become perverted, I think,
just because of the way that it's been used so frequently.
So the reason I hate this is that I think
it's going to stifle innovation.
Okay, not just, not, okay, shut up, but not in that way
because the problem with a standards, okay.
So we're lucky right now.
USB-C is pretty great.
So it's more of the future.
Yes, but where are we going from here?
What happens when it's time for someone
to create something different?
Are you not allowed?
Yeah, because this whole thing went down ages ago.
The EU tried to go after Apple
about the 40-pin connector way back in the day.
If I recall correctly, it might've been the 40-pin,
might've been Lightning, don't remember the timeframe,
but ultimately what we got
after the Apple 40-pin connector was Lightning,
which was so much better than anything that was available
on the PC side of things or on the, like,
open standard side of things,
that it was almost worth switching to an iPhone for.
Remember, this is pre wireless charging
and the Lightning connector was great.
So I'm looking at it going, okay, at this moment in time,
USB type C looks pretty great.
Seems like it's working out pretty good so far.
We haven't so far identified any long-term durability
or reliability problems, holds up physically,
it holds up electrically for the most part, seems great.
But we don't have to go that far in the past to find a time
when allowing someone to use a different connector
was a clear and obvious benefit for their customers
and not to the detriment of the rest of the market,
because Apple does charge to create works
with Apple accessories.
But the flip side of that is that nothing prevents you
from buying an unauthorized one off of eBay.
When we go back to like flip and slider phones,
it was horrible.
That was a gong show.
It was terrible.
It was terrible.
I don't think we're there now
because right now we have basically micro USB,
USB-C and Lightning.
Yes.
That's not that bad.
And you have like a little bit older Android phones,
current Android phones and iPhones.
The other concern that I have is that these regulations,
in many cases, technology regulations are created
by people who do not fully understand
what they're regulating.
They're often very important.
I want to throw that out there too.
Yes.
There are lots of very important technology regulations
that keep things moving and we're very thankful for.
But yes, they're also often made by people
that have no idea what I'm talking about.
And even by engineers,
USB type C is not particularly well understood
in a lot of cases because, okay,
you guys are a tech savvy audience, right?
You see four USB-C connections
on the back of the Apple Pro Display XDR.
Tell me what you think they are.
One of them has a little bolt next to it.
Tell me what they all are.
A Thunderbolt.
Okay.
And three USB-C 3.1s.
Wrong.
Is one of them one of them's power?
No.
And the other ones don't allow that?
No.
I have no idea.
Okay, see, that's the problem.
There are so many different implementations of USB-C.
The physical connector electrically,
that the potential for them to say,
okay, well, everything has to use USB type C
because that way everything can be charged from one thing.
What are they?
What are, oh, so basically one of them is Thunderbolt
and that goes to the Mac Pro or to your MacBook Pro.
Sure.
And the other three are actually USB type two electrically.
Okay.
And the reason is that Apple is using up
all of the available bandwidth in that connection
to put two DisplayPort streams through it,
because that's how they're doing 6K 60 Hertz.
Okay.
Off of a single cable.
Now they could have just done two cables,
which would have increased the backwards compatibility
of the display, but that wouldn't have been as elegant.
They would never wanna, yeah.
Yeah, and that wouldn't have had,
and it would have had high-speed connectivity, whatever.
All right.
Anyway, so, sorry.
So right, so there's so many different implementations
that even if the intent was to say,
USB type C is the past, present, and future,
we want everything to use this
so that you've got universal interoperability,
which gives consumers choice.
Now they can choose their vendor for their charging devices.
Even if that was the intent,
that might not actually be the result,
because we've already seen with the Nintendo Switch
getting bricked by power banks
and non-authorized third-party adapters,
that there are so many different implementations,
some of them standard and some of them non-standard,
that there's no way that you would be able,
that you wouldn't have the understanding
to regulate that properly.
And many devices just have different needs,
so that even though USB type C is a fantastic standard
and has so many, so much flexibility in its implementation
that allows it to be used for so many different things,
everything from charging a laptop
to outputting power off of your phone
and charging something else.
It's so cool.
But that flexibility means that it's not one thing.
So trying to standardize on this one thing
could actually hurt what is so great about this one thing.
And as far as my understanding goes,
micro USB is wildly cheaper as well.
And we don't necessarily want to drive up the cost
of a lot of low cost devices.
Like an IOT connected relay
that you use for your garage door.
I have one that uses micro USB.
It significantly increases the complexity
of implementing the charging port
if they have to use USB type C.
And especially if it's a plug in once,
leave always plugged in style device,
you don't need really the features that USB C give you
if you can get everything else done
by a micro USB connection.
With that said, we did find that USB type C
was quite a bit more durable.
And I have had a fair number of micro Bs
just from being left in.
Oh, just like die.
But that I think has as much to do with it
being a poor quality connector
as it has to do with the actual standard itself.
So there's a different conversation to have there.
I mean, that's another thing too is like,
unless you're regulating the quality of them as well.
And speaking of quality, this might be unpopular.
I personally like Lightning's more than USB-C.
Oh, I love the Lightning connector.
Yeah.
I mean, Apple is like cable sleeving
has had issues at times in the past,
but the actual Lightning connector itself.
The feel of the plug-in unplugged experience is fantastic.
It does tend to get,
The Verge is reporting this is about the wall charger
not the actual plug on the phone.
Either way that has its own separate,
everything I said is already still applicable to that then.
So all of these different implementations
of powering devices.
Yeah, if you standardize the wall charger,
how would you keep tweaking with like
your battery charge rates, like your current delivery rates
and all that kind of stuff.
Like there are advantages to having the charger
talk to the device.
No, I still don't support it.
So there you go.
All right.
Well, what else?
So, okay, let's go through our actual talking points
for this thing.
Uh oh, wife messaging.
Okay, cool.
That's perfect.
So something, something, something required
that all mobile devices use
a single universal charging method.
Apple's response.
Yeah, this is great.
Regulations that would drive conformity
across the type of connector built
into all smartphones freeze innovation
rather than encourage it.
Such proposals are bad for the environment
and unnecessarily disruptive for customers.
So I don't necessarily agree
that they are bad for the environment
because continuing to use your existing cables
is definitely more better for the environment.
I could reduce is the best R.
I could only understand the environment thing
if it was used poetically.
And they mean like the, you know, environment of innovators.
Oh, like the metaphorical environment.
Yeah, I'm sure they don't mean that,
but that's the only way that I can make sense.
Every time millions of people replace their cables
and throw away their old cables,
it is super bad for the environment.
Yeah, that's a weird try to kind of hill to fall on.
Yeah, they go on.
We want to ensure that any new legislation
will not result in the shipment of any unnecessary cables
or external adapters with every device
or render obsolete the devices and accessories
used by many millions of Europeans
and hundreds of millions of Apple customers.
So that's great.
I see where their argument is coming from.
If we had to include an adapter
to the thing that we're shipping everywhere else
in the world, because we're going to do that.
So basically they're just being petulant children
that would rather do something
that's bad for the environment than just standardize.
So they're saying we will be bad for the environment
if you do this.
If you make us do this.
Okay, that makes more sense.
So it's a threat, not a warning.
Brutal.
Given the market steady switch to USB type C
it's likely that this is the standard
that will be adopted if it's passed.
And iPhones have been rumored to ditch lightning
for type C for years.
But also recent rumors now point
to a completely portless design with wireless charging
and wireless data transfer only anyway.
And honestly we're not far away
from that actually kind of making sense.
Yeah, once he took the headphone jack out like.
Wi-Fi has gotten pretty fast
and wireless charging has gotten pretty good.
Do people still transfer files
through a cable to their phone?
On an iPhone I don't bother
but on an Android device I kind of do a lot.
Interesting, why?
Just because it's a lot faster.
Well remember too as a.
What are you transferring onto your phone?
Like not onto my phone, off my phone.
Okay.
So as like a video maker I'm often doing screen cap
on my phone that I need to put onto an editor.
I was thinking the other way around so yeah.
No I don't.
You could have that auto sync.
Oh no I don't put anything on my phone.
By the way I don't know
if you've been using my Plex server lately
but it's fixed now.
Oh no I haven't.
Okay well it's fixed now.
I just reminded me cause like that's the only way
I put things on my phone now.
All right what else we got?
Ah big news, Nvidia drops pricing on the RTX 2060.
It is now down to 299 also known as the price
it probably should have been in the first place.
It was 350 and many partner cards
are still at or near that price
but the founder's edition is now 299.
That brings the price closer
to the rumored upcoming RX 5600 XT
which is releasing on wait.
Okay hold on a second.
Are these details that AMD has actually announced
or are these things that people don't know yet?
Hold on I'm just gonna control V.
Okay AMD announced, oh good.
AMD announces the RX 5600 XT on Tuesday for 279.
Okay so I can talk about that.
The GTX 1660 Ti is still 279
so basically it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
given that you can get a 2060 for that with ray tracing.
Whoa, but you probably wouldn't run around on there.
I do.
On a 2060?
I do.
Oh.
Minecraft.
I think Minecraft with RTX is straight up.
Does it even do that well on a 2060?
Minecraft RTX?
Yeah.
Wait is it out?
It's not out yet.
No but they have like community mod demos
that will like melt your computer.
Oh, all right.
Well yeah but you don't have to do that many bounces.
Shh, yes.
I'm sure you could run it.
I think that's gonna be a valid use case for it.
With that said, not on the LTT Minecraft server
since we're running the Java version.
So that's gonna be a thing.
Okay.
Apparently, I don't know if Jake has talked
about this publicly yet,
but apparently we are finally launching
in the next couple of weeks.
Really?
Because it's been like a long time.
Four or five months?
Meet Kettle.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, all right.
I mean it's a Minecraft server.
Have you seen what they've been working on though?
It's actually pretty cool.
Video delivery?
Minecraft server?
Yeah, but like he also didn't take three years.
So.
Okay, all right.
You know.
All right.
You know.
That's fine.
You know.
That's fine.
What else we got that we wanted to talk about?
Oh yeah, this is the craziest thing ever.
Okay, so scientists use stem cells from frogs
to build the first living robots.
So this is out of the University of Vermont.
Xenobots.
So these are robots that are constructed
out of living cells.
They're made from embryonic African clawed frogs.
So these are tiny sub millimeter blobs
that have between 500 and 1,000 cells.
They can scoot around, they can self organize
and they can deliver minute payloads.
Potential uses include targeted drug delivery.
Yeah, that totally makes sense.
So unlike any previous living organism,
these are living programmable organisms.
This is nuts.
So they're 100% frog DNA, but they are not frogs.
That is extremely cool and very terrifying.
Yeah.
Like, imagine like chemical warfare, nuclear warfare.
Those are not the scariest warfares anymore.
Well, this would.
Is it chemical?
It's okay.
It's biological warfare, which I guess also, you know,
exists, but this is like, I don't know.
This feels like.
A new category.
A new category to me somehow.
Microbiological though.
Like you drop, yeah, you drop a bunch of these
in like a water supply or something
and they like, you know, deliver.
Execute program 66.
Eat brains, I don't know.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
Like depending on how long they can stay alive
in a target's bloodstream,
you know, you could potentially over some
very extended period of time,
basically infect an entire population.
You should be like, hey.
I mean, obviously they have no way at this time
to put fricking wifi on the things, but like.
And I'm sure I'm not putting ideas
that weren't already there into people's heads,
so don't worry about it.
But consume and grow would like very possibly be an option.
And that's essentially just cancer, is it not?
Deliverable cancer.
That sucks.
Yeah.
But also maybe counter it at the same time.
Really interesting.
Very interested to see where that goes.
Hopefully all in good directions.
In other news, this is off of Cooler Master's Twitter.
Cooler Master has changed the design
of their thermal paste syringe,
not to make applying thermal paste easier,
but because they were tired of having to explain to parents
that their kid isn't using drugs.
I think Cooler Master is social media savvy enough that
this is not what happened, but it's very funny.
So good job, Cooler Master.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Switching my screen?
Yes.
This is their video.
I'm gonna mute it just because I don't know
if it's coming through or not.
This is their video.
I just wanna see if you notice what's wrong.
Did you see it?
Go back.
Master Gel Maker.
Traditional thermal grease, which is hard to spread evenly.
Traditional thermal grease, all capitalized.
I did notice that thermal grease was capitalized.
Traditional thermal grease.
Oh, Cooler Master, you tried.
And then they do the classic infomercial,
I can't do this super simple task at all.
They had to have done that on purpose too.
It's so difficult.
Also, that's spread enough at this point.
Nope, nope, need to keep going.
I don't know.
With patent.
That's a fun grammar bit right there.
Man, you know the craziest thing about companies
like Cooler Master is they actually have a lot of people
who work there who could easily proof this.
Okay, what do you think?
They just don't have them do it.
I think it's stupid and unnecessary.
But I think anything that gives new users
more confidence to do something
can actually have a clear benefit.
I like that, yeah.
So even if it does nothing
for the actual thermal performance, still kind of neat.
The first initial thought that I had was like,
that's a confusing, low value,
I'm assuming notable increase to bomb costs change
that I just don't understand.
But if it's increasing confidence,
because that is a part that has always bothered people.
And it made us talk about it.
It did.
Good job, Cooler Master marketing team.
Yeah, there you go.
I think telling things wrong was the play, you got it.
Corsair IQ to support a Soothe motherboard
RGB lighting control.
Have we finally reached RGB-topia?
Arguably the two best RGB solutions,
IQ and Aura Sync are now compatible.
So you can get a cohesive RGB look
without using 20% of your CPU.
Thank you.
It seems simple, but syncing RGB
can actually be really tough.
I know Corsair has spent an inordinate amount of money
on RGB development, like it just blew me away.
Each component, RAM, MOBO, GPU could run
very different software and hardware for RGB.
If they're designed, even if they're designed
by different teams within the same company,
they can run really different stuff.
So what one company or team calls blue in their software
might be different from others,
even more difficult for colors like orange,
where two lights have to be dimmed correctly
in order to color match.
Various controllers will have different built-in delays.
So even if the main software is sending out
the right signals, the whole thing could look like a mess.
And on top of it all, all the hardware needs to comply
with all the electronics laws.
I actually found out recently that one of the reasons
that RGB doesn't just all sync wirelessly
instead of having to do all this crap
is that it has to do with the European RF pollution laws.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, so I was like, oh, all right.
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
It's like why I had to get my Logitech Powerplay mouse mat
in Canada.
Get it?
Because they don't sell it here.
They don't sell it here.
No.
I actually did not know that.
I never went to buy one.
They sent one for review.
I need a new mouse because mine double clicks
like all the time, but I love it.
I'd never want to go back if I can.
I wish they made a much bigger mouse mat.
Yeah.
I know you can like do it yourself.
You can mod it.
But it's-
You got to do it.
I will.
I will.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's the way to go.
You just get the other one, you cut the hole.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Yeah.
Okay. So two random things.
I got this super early,
which I'm ridiculously excited about.
Oh, good for you.
You're now the only one in this room
with a working valve index.
Okay. So you mentioned that before the show,
but we didn't get into it.
What happened?
Well, my controller broke.
Your controller broke?
Yeah.
My controller started kind of disconnecting sometimes
and I would power it off and power it back on
and it would kick back in.
And then it did it again.
And then it, like,
it happened more and more frequently until it did it.
And then it didn't turn back on.
Is this your knuckles?
Yeah. Yeah.
So my left knuckles controller is dead.
You can use the older ones, right?
Can you?
Okay. So that was a bit of a,
a bit of a fiasco or deal.
It was a bit of a pain in the butt
because I am using Lighthouse V2s.
I don't own any Vive Gen 2 controllers.
Okay.
Any like Steam VR 2.0 controllers.
So I had to come back to work, borrow some controllers,
go home, realize that my lighthouses were not compatible
with my Gen 1 controllers, go back to the office,
get Gen 1 lighthouses,
which conveniently do work with the index headset.
And then I was able to play.
But yes, I've been, I've been, I've been all,
I've been out of the game for a little bit.
I've been playing a little bit, but not nearly as much.
I don't like using the Gen 1 controllers as much.
They're really heavy and I'm weak.
It's a weight thing.
Well, it's, it's a factor.
Yeah. I also don't find them as comfortable.
I'm really used to the valve one, to the Vive.
You really like Beat Saber,
which is a lot of constant movement.
Yes.
So that sort of would add up.
And sometimes I'm streaming for an hour
or two hours at a time.
And it really does make a difference.
Yeah. Okay.
That makes sense.
And the knuckles are very like,
when something's kind of attached to you,
the weight gets distributed a lot better
compared to like a stick that you have to hold or whatever.
Absolutely.
Okay. So that, I got this, which is fantastic.
Did you just get that today?
Yeah.
It's super early.
If I remember correctly,
my order was supposed to come in March.
Nice.
Like it's wicked early.
I don't know why.
I was, I was, it was here.
You need your left controller?
Yeah. Yeah. I think so.
Actually, I mean, honestly you could borrow it
cause I can't set it up yet.
Oh no, it's fine.
I wasn't like, the room isn't ready.
Like I didn't think it was going to be here for a long time.
It's fine. I can, I can, I can wait.
They have finally shipped me one.
So I'm good.
Okay. That's cool.
Took them like 13 days to decide to ship me a replacement.
So that was pretty sweet.
That's kind of annoying.
Speaking of annoying though, this is, like I said,
this is here, that's great.
I got banned from wow for six months.
You got banned from wow?
Suspended.
Why?
I'll get into that.
Why did you get suspended from, what did you do?
I genuinely don't know.
That's the worst part.
I went to go, this it's been for a week.
I went home after last wan show.
Yeah.
And went and logged in.
It was like your account is suspended for 180 days.
And I was like, what?
Maybe Blizzard's trying to tell you you have a problem.
And that wow classic isn't that good of a game anyway.
Okay.
Wow classic has a lot of issues.
I will give you that.
But it's like.
Maybe Blizzard said, you know what?
We've consumed enough of this man's life and soul.
But it's funny that I play with my dad
and my brother and my mom.
Like just a little while ago I was in a dungeon
with my dad, my brother and mom.
What?
A while ago.
I said just a while ago.
It's fine.
I'm not gonna say exactly how many days ago.
But it was a while ago.
Hold on, let me say that out loud for you
so you can hear it instead of being saying it.
A little while ago I was in a dungeon
with my brother, my dad and my mom.
See, because I play wow so much this doesn't ping me.
Well there's lots of kinds of dungeons.
Don't worry about it.
Like okay, the day, I'm gonna get a little personal here
for a moment.
But the day that my mom air or my grandma on my dad's side
passed away, or not passed away, her funeral
was the launch day of Classic WoW.
This man allowed me to borrow a bunch of laptops
and I flew across the country and we had like a land party
in the hotel room that night.
To try to like bring the family together.
Now my brother and my dad and I all raid together
and it's like a thing.
So it really sucks and I don't know why.
And I have appealed it three times.
I've gotten automated responses back every time
just being like, nope, nope, nope, six months, bye.
I can't get to a single, they said cheating.
And I was like, what?
I haven't done this?
So they're like, oh, it's for unauthorized program use?
What is unauthorized program use?
What program?
Like I use my computer for everything.
I stream on it, I work on it, I game on it.
I don't know what program.
What program are you upset about?
So I don't get banned in the future and they're just like,
nope, stop sending in tickets, blup, ah.
They're all automated responses
so no one's really saying that.
But like, I just, I don't know.
If someone out there works at Blizzard,
knows a senior GM or something, I would love to talk to you.
You can even leave the ban.
I just don't want to get banned again.
Right, because you're back for like two days.
You get banned for another six months.
That's like a two year.
Because I don't even know why.
It's ridiculous.
I can't talk to, like when I used to have,
if I ever had a problem with Blizzard,
when I first started playing WoW, you can just call them.
Well yeah, but that was a long time ago.
Yeah, but they had a big player base.
You know, the funny thing about that is that like,
it's not like they get paid less now.
Yeah.
But somehow they were able to sustain support staff
back then, why can't they now?
I don't know.
I don't know, when did we all as consumers accept this?
And like, I even said that in one of my tickets.
Yeah.
Like, I understand you guys are probably receiving
a lot of tickets right now.
I'd love to just, like if I can just talk to someone,
we can probably smooth this over.
Yeah.
And we can just move on.
Yeah.
Automated response denied, whatever.
I just, I don't know.
I would just love to talk to someone
so I can at least like explain my case.
I'd like to play games with my dad again.
That was like a cool thing that we had.
I would love to just talk to someone.
So if anyone out there can just reach out to me,
that'd be fantastic.
Because I'm getting nowhere on my own.
Yeah.
All right.
Speaking of getting nowhere.
You can take a controller.
No, no.
Like I literally can't set it up.
It might be at home.
Okay.
Like they shipped it a few days ago and it's been snowy.
So I think it might've gotten delayed,
but it also like might be there by now.
So I'm not too worried about it.
Yeah, we're making rearrangements
and we're like literally in the process of it,
but I didn't know it was gonna be here so soon.
So it's not ready yet.
All right.
So thanks for watching this week guys.
We'll see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
Jayden, you're a dick.