Okay, so new plan, we renamed the show to Third Time's a Charm, and this is what happened
last time, folks.
I unplugged my headphones from the audio device on the microphone and bam!
USB-B connection, gone, fell out of the bottom.
So we've used an innovative strategy called the Velcro it until you can put some tuck
tape on it approach.
I don't know if I want to touch it right now.
And hopefully everything is fine from now until forever.
Now until forever, we already established this isn't real wood.
It's not wood?
Isn't it?
Well, it feels like wood, and it tastes like wood.
Remember last time I carried it in the table?
So it probably is wood.
Wait, you tasted it?
Wouldn't you have just tasted the paint?
I guess so.
No, no, I think it's like particle board or something.
No, we have a real wood table, but the table can change without us really messing up much
of anything else.
I just meant for your knock.
So basically we, strictly speaking- If you have a painted or even for that matter
sealed table, does it still count?
Because you would be knocking on the paint, not knocking on the wood.
Yeah, but I think it's kind of like the crater effect.
If a meteorite hits a thing- Okay, so the vibration from your knock goes
through the thing.
If it hits a thing, we still say the meteor caused the crater.
We don't say that this particular ring of dust- The dispersion of the other things created
it, yes.
Exactly, exactly.
It's a chain reaction.
Yes, all right.
So on the subject of chains, what do we got for topics today?
We have the Google event.
So a bunch of stuff was launched there.
Some pretty interesting things.
The Google.
The Google event.
The Google event.
The one and only Google.
PC is no longer the number one gaming platform for children wrecked.
I hate you.
Wrecked.
I hate you.
The sound's off by a little bit.
The sound's off by a little bit.
What?
The timing.
The timing's off by a little bit.
It needs a delay.
So delay it by just a little bit.
Oh, I can't remember.
I did this last week.
I thought it was 50.
Yeah, I thought it was like 50 milliseconds.
That's speakers.
Yeah, it shouldn't take too much.
Maybe 50 or 100.
Yeah, okay.
I did 50 last week and apparently it was fine, so.
We also have Yelp for human beings, so you can now rate people.
I'm basically just going to do all of the intro topics.
Anything.
Also T-Mobile customers were exposed in a major data breach, so.
So without further ado, the intro.
Oh, crap.
I knew I missed something.
I was like waiting for the intro to go away and I was going to be like, yeah, high five.
We did it right.
So I figured out why the intro doesn't work because I've been using the microphone's audio
device as system sound and then I've been telling the intro to play on system sound,
but I've had to mute system sound in order to keep the mic from having an echo because
it automatically monitors itself.
The problem hasn't been the audio the whole time.
No, the intro audio worked.
No, you know how sometimes the intro, the audio doesn't work?
Yeah, but the big problem was that the intro video wouldn't play.
Oh, yeah, that too.
No, no, I think that's the result.
We reformatted the machine because that was one borked Windows installation.
It was bad.
To be fair, the new one's still having issues because of Blackmagic cards, but.
I think I've got that now.
I think it's okay now.
I think we're good.
I actually, I don't know what caused the problem, but it hasn't happened again.
It's that thing where you change so many things and it just starts working and people are
like, how did you fix it?
And you're like, I don't know, but it's done.
I think.
Yeah.
Because it's one of those things where that honestly, that's the worst when you don't
know what you did to fix it, because that means it could come back at any moment and
you wouldn't know why.
And you'd have to do all the 25 fricking things you did last time just to have a chance of
fixing it again.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's like, what, what chance?
The sponsors that were supposed to go on that overlay thing right there.
Yeah.
Lynda.com, Squarespace and Tunnel Bear would have normally had, would have normally had
spots, but instead let's jump right into the show and get into our first fricking topic
here.
And this, this is quite the topic.
The original article here is from NDP, excuse me, NTP, sorry, I got Canadian elections on
the mind here.
It's a big deal.
NPD.com.
Are you dropping this?
Yeah, you are dropping it all over the place, yo.
So NPD, kids move away from home computers for gaming in droves.
In the least surprising.
Well, okay.
You know what?
I will, I will let you, I'll let you go kind of through what we've got in terms of facts
here.
Largely what they're talking about is that the kids have moved towards mobile devices,
which is not surprising.
There's the classic thing like, oh, do you have games on your phone?
Like the question that you get from your little nephew or niece at like every single family
gathering ever.
It's not surprising because it's very easy for mom or dad to just have a game on their
phone and be like, here, play with this, I need to do something.
One of the things that this report is actually talking about is that the amount of kids,
like the percentage of kids that are playing games on mobile phones hasn't actually really
increased, but the amount of time that they've spent playing games on mobile phones has increased
by quite a bit.
I mean, here, here's a couple of, okay, I'll, I'll let you, I'll let you, I'm gonna let
you finish.
I'm gonna let you finish.
Okay.
Portable consoles remain popular in the age nine to 11 group with about 41% of that, of
people in that age group playing those games.
45% of kids aged two to 17 are gaming on a home computer, down 22% since 2013.
So that's actually changed a lot.
That's pretty surprising.
But I don't think as many kid games are coming out right now for PC compared to before.
That's an interesting point.
I didn't even think about that cause I, I had some other factors in my mind that I thought
were probably contributing to this, but now that I think about it, I mean, okay, it's
also possible that you and I just aren't really exposed to kids games.
This is why I said that and then looked directly at you.
The ways that we used to be.
Yeah.
Like I don't, I can't even think of where to buy kids games.
Like I'm sure they have them on steam.
You can, you can often get them at like the big box store stuff like a big box store,
big box store.
Um, I remember like, I think Staples and Best Buy stuff will have like the leapfrog.
Is that really a PC game?
Cause they usually try and sell their own stupid, oh I see.
This was back when I was working there though.
So this has been a while.
Yeah, that's kind of like five years ago at this point.
But that's from 2013, so that's a little bit after I was working there, so like it's still
within the realm.
But I'm just trying to think, like when I was shopping for a game as a kid, it was like,
I mean, you kind of look at how the demographics of gaming have changed as the kids who grew
up playing video games, hello, um, became adults and oh, it turns out games aren't just,
you know, kid crap.
It turns out that when you grow up playing video games, you might still play video games.
To be fair though, even when I was growing up for kids games that like, basically what
I'm going to put under kids games is like stuff that my mom would let me get when I
was in these kind of age groups.
A lot of them were mobile or console stuff.
A lot of it was Nintendo, right?
And Nintendo has been like kind of not really wanting to go towards mobile stuff, whether
or not you think that's a good idea, but other people have been going into the mobile space
really heavily for kids games.
So kids games already not being super huge on PC, to be completely honest.
I remember like, like kickstart and all this kind of stuff when I was a kid, down park
tycoon and all that kind of crap.
Yeah.
Like you could, you could go and shop for PC games as a kid and there would be like
tons of options.
And then for like the really sort of adult oriented stuff, there'd be like leisure suit
Larry, like on a high up shelf somewhere and yeah.
You know, or you'd have like your, you know, when I was, I guess I would have been in my
teens at this point.
So stuff like, you know, your never winter nights, never nights to like, so, so, so all
this stuff existed, but there was an awful lot that was very kid friendly.
Whereas now, and now, and now like, what do you do?
You, you, I know a lot of people jetpack joyride even exist for the PC.
I don't know unless it's like flash probably in the windows store.
I bet it is.
There you go.
Yeah.
I'm going to check the windows store.
Um, like, like, okay.
To be completely fair with some of the stuff on steam with kids in a certain age group,
I don't even know if I'd necessarily want them seeing the steam store just because of
the stuff that might go through the sale page.
Yep.
So like I could understand a kid not having steam and with the vast majority of PC stuff
happening on steam these days, I don't know.
I kind of get it.
I'm not super surprised by this statistic.
Um, there were a couple other comments that I had here that were sort of unrelated to
that.
So number one is, Oh, Oh yeah.
Okay.
So number one is, um, now that I have kids, I get to make all these like observations
about children and seem insightful, but actually I just have no choice.
You have to supervise them or they'll kill themselves.
Um, so human babies mimicking, mimicking parents is a huge factor.
And the article actually actually brings this up is that mom and dad are likely performing
a lot of tasks on their phones now that they would have traditionally had to do on a computer
and junior or junior at or whatever junior at, what's the equivalent?
I don't think there is one junior just isn't that no, I don't think she used junior junior
for a female.
I think it's commonly used as a male thing, but is junior actually not gender neutral?
I don't think so.
But junior just like, cause no one names their daughter after their mom.
I have literally never heard of that once.
So in order to be junior, you'd have to be like a junior engineer and that's a gender
neutral term.
No, that is.
But, but in terms of the name junior, like, like it's, it's Indiana, it's, it's, it's
Dr. Jones senior, Dr. Jones junior, like it's not, it, yeah, I, I, no, I'm pretty sure it's
gender specific.
Is that just because like no one does it?
Perhaps.
Or is that because it's actually gender specific?
Although, I mean, now that there's so many unisex names, you know, whether it's, you
know, your Taylor or your Leslie or whatever else, in theory, assuming I had a unisex name,
which Linus really isn't, um, any name that actually has an alternate meaning in urban
dictionary as, you know, male genitals, probably it will never be a unisex name.
Um, so let's say my name was something appropriate.
Does every guy's name reference that?
Cause mine does to you.
You're Luke.
Um, no, not all, but it's the first definition for mine though.
Yeah.
Is yours even the first definition?
Cause it's just cause it's like, no, it doesn't mean like that directly.
It means a size of that.
Wow.
So where I was going with this was I could technically name my daughter Linus Jr.
If my name were unisex and I guess, but people would assume they're a boy for sure.
Or just even just junior would assume like if your nickname is junior, you would assume
it's a boy.
Um, so where, where was I going with this?
Right.
Mimicking parents.
So like, you know, my, my son and daughter are both phone whiz kids like compared to
their ages of course.
You know, my daughter's one.
So the fact that she like knows how to try to type in a passcode and like unlock things
and open apps is kind of impressive.
It means I spend too much time on my phone in front of her for one thing.
Um, and they don't see me use the desktop computer nearly as much anymore because I've
switched to almost entirely using my laptop or my phone whenever they're around.
Cause when do I have time to sit down at a desktop?
Um, and then number two, and I think this is actually, I don't think the article meant
to mention this, but I personally think this is a huge factor is hand me down phones because
even three years ago, you know, two years ago, three years ago, four years ago, five
years ago, every year, the number of very capable, still very usable hand me down mobile
devices explodes because you look at the growth of how many of these devices are selling and
then there was that period where they all kind of sucked.
Like iPad one, iPhone three GS, uh, galaxy S one.
Like all that stuff was just kind of rubbish.
But we're at the point now where anything from, I'd say an iPhone four to iPhone four
S galaxy S three or so and up is still today and you know, a few years old device now is
still a very usable device today and there's no reason to throw it away.
So what would I do?
Am I going to buy my kids the new iPhone?
You know, six S no.
Would I necessarily object to throwing them my old iPhone four to dink around with?
Probably not.
So I would imagine that compared to the investment of buying a mobile game console, dedicated
mobile game console with $60 games, I would imagine the inclination for parents is, Oh,
well this thing's got lots of games on it and I'm just sitting in a drawer anyway.
Here you go.
So I think that's probably a huge factor there as well.
Yeah.
I would be surprised.
Uh, yeah, this is interesting.
It's not like, Oh my God, I can't believe they're playing less PC games now, but it's,
it's still interesting.
It's still interesting.
It's just, it just is kind of what it is.
Someone clarified, I haven't looked at urban dictionary in like a very long time, but apparently
it's different now just in case you wanted to know.
Um, Oh, well, okay then.
That's great.
What's going on?
I don't know, I'm just checking the thing.
I actually, I, this is like a new version of X split that I haven't used recently.
And so someone's saying something about 24 FPS and I really don't think it's running
at 24 FPS, but I have actually no way of verifying that.
Uh, you could, no, you know what, I know, no, I know it's not, no, no, I know it's not.
I'm sure.
Okay.
So let's go ahead and move on to our next topic here.
Shall we?
Ah, yes.
The spec reading event.
The Google.
Yeah.
The, the reading of specifications for you exclusively here on the WAN show.
Except not exclusively.
Yeah.
Except everyone and their dog has covered this.
So let's try and blow through it pretty quick here.
Next is 5x specs, 5.2 inch IPS LCD, 1920 by 1080 Corning Gorilla grass, three Snapdragon
808, two gigabytes of DDR3 RAM stock Android 6.0 marshmallow with Google now on tap 16
gigabytes and 32 gigabyte versions available non-expandable 12.3 megapixel dual LED flash
camera, 2,160 P video capture, five megapixel selfie camera fingerprint sensor on the back
USB type C Android pay wifi 802.11 AC Bluetooth 4.2 stereo speakers on the front with three
microphones 2,700 milliamp hour battery black, white and blue different colors ships in October
16 gigabyte version costs $379 32 gigabyte version costs $429.
Bam.
All right.
Fascinating.
Thanks for that.
No problem.
Great reporting.
No problem.
Right.
There's some new features of Android 6.0 faster access to voice activation.
There's a charging speed indicator.
Holy freaking crap.
How did that take so long?
Do you know when I was trying to do my video on quick charge 2.0, do you know what I had
to do?
Did I tell you what I had to do?
No.
Oh, it was ridiculous.
So I had to get all my different chargers, which by the way, everyone mislabels false
advertising all over the place on the output of chargers.
That's what actually inspired that little, uh, that little ammeter that I got for USB
ports that I showed on handy tech because they're all over the freaking map.
So what I had to do was I had to get all these different chargers of each type.
I had to charge the phone.
So I had to get the phone down to like, I think it was like 2% because if I let it go
below that it would turn off and then I would have to do a power on cycle while charging,
which would affect the charging speed during the critical low battery time when it takes
best advantage of quick charging features.
So I had to get it down to like two or 3% or something like that.
So I had to be like sitting there watching it with a game running like, Oh, we're getting
there.
We're getting there.
Okay.
Okay.
Do something less.
Turn off the flash now.
Now just the game.
Okay.
Turn off the game.
Okay.
Quick plug it in.
Then I had to plug it in before it turned off.
Then I just had to like set notification.
I had to set timers to come back and check it periodically very quickly so I could turn
it off right away.
So it could charge on its own.
And then I had to just create Excel graphs out of my samples that I took.
It was horrible.
And all of this, just to find out if these features were working as intended, so now
there's just an indicator.
It makes sense.
It's just very good.
Yeah.
It worked.
Yup.
Yup.
Yup.
Faster scrolling and search.
On device predictive app launching so it learns your patterns and places.
So goodbye aviate.
Yeah.
I guess runtime permissions, less bloatware for the nexus lineup.
And that's good.
So updates going to previous nexus devices.
Yeah.
The five, six, 2013, seven and the nine what is it?
Next week.
Yep.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Everyone else, you know, whether you got a Galaxy S6 active or a Droid Turbo, screw you
buddy.
I love how they do that.
I do too.
It's just the worst.
And it's like, it's all, it's not really all anyone's fault.
It's all a lot of people's faults.
It's all Google's fault.
It's all the handset maker's fault and it's especially all the carrier's faults.
It's all of their faults.
Just cut this crap out.
Apple had the right idea.
Let's just, let's just all get on board.
Oh cool.
There's a music family plan for 15 bucks a month for up to six people.
Oh my God.
Can you do that?
And then can I just...
You are not a family member.
Can I be?
Can you adopt me?
Wow.
That's not awkward.
Okay.
First, no.
And then...
But I want to Google play.
I want to save like $8 a month.
It is kind of awesome.
I kind of love it.
I probably will upgrade to a family plan.
So I guess nothing would prevent you from being part of my family at that point.
Yay!
Yay!
If I mean, okay, if I ever personally got like software license audited, then I guess
it...
Who's this?
Luke Laffreniere?
Is he a relative of yours?
Well, he's got white skin like me, so we probably have a common ancestor somewhere.
Eventually, if you go back far enough.
I know also our Luke's are similar sizes, so you know, probably a well-endowed ancestor
probably did a lot of mating on account of his, you know.
You want to see it?
Wow.
No, no.
It's okay.
The license is fine.
The $14.99 is not worth it.
Identity verification based on similarities of Luke's.
Yeah.
People are like, what, your name is actually Linus?
Yes.
I wish I'd had the foresight to adopt a screen name.
I'd have gone with Dirk Diggler.
Oh my god.
Oh, terrible.
Okay, so there's some Chromecast stuff.
Finally, 5 gigahertz Wi-Fi.
You know, funny story.
I have had my Chromecast sitting plugged into the back of my receiver since it came out.
Because I didn't have a USB power port on my receiver, when I plugged it in, I was like,
oh, I'll have to kind of deal with this later.
And I just left the USB cable hanging out the back of my cabinet.
I finally hooked it up two days ago.
And I used it.
And I was like, oh yeah, this would have been cool to be using all this time.
As I actually changed out my receiver.
So this is kind of funny.
I posted this on Instagram a little while ago.
LG sent over a 65 inch OLED TV for, not a review, I'm not going to call it a review,
because it's not what it's going to be, but it's going to be like, what is it like?
Because this is state of the art crap.
It's curved, OLED, huge, it's actually, it's kind of magnificent.
The bezels are like this.
And I'm just like, wow, it wouldn't even matter if it didn't have bezels at all, because,
or if it had huge bezels even, because the black of the black is the same as the black
of the, anyway.
So I posted on Instagram, I was like, great news, awesome new TV, terrible news, my receiver
doesn't have HDMI 2.0, so I will be running at 1080p for now.
So LG was actually like, oh, well, just get a receiver, and we'll comp you for it.
And I was like, okay, sure.
So I was like, so I hooked that up, so that's why I was hooking up the Chromecast.
And then, so yeah, now apparently that's pointless.
So there's a new antenna system, NBA, NHL, and other partners coming in the fall, Sling
TV will be available if you're into that sort of thing, I don't think Sling is even supported
in Canada, is it?
I don't think so.
Oh, Canada, your content is inferior, but thankfully you have lots of fresh water.
Nestle.
Nestle?
No, not Nestle water, I don't want to talk about Nestle water.
It's like, we have to, I mean, a lot of the times, see, now you're going to get me started
on Nestle water.
So we have to get into this stuff when it's actually tech-related, because it's a tech
show.
But I try to avoid this kind of crap when it's not tech-related.
So in a nutshell, basically Nestle figured that, well, not Nestle, a particular person
at Nestle, although they're high up enough that they can be considered a spokesperson,
figured that water was not a right.
And I forget what the word used was, but calling water not a human right is ridiculous.
And people should have to pay for water, was the other thing.
And you know what I have to say to that, Nestle?
First of all, screw you, and second of all, your water sucks.
It's terrible.
Calling that spring water, like, okay, you guys, even if you don't realize it, you've
probably, you've probably drank Nestle water.
They're the ones that come in the bottles about yay big, okay, they're like ribbed bottles.
They have the really crappy clear translucent plastic top, they crinkle a lot when you press
on them, and they taste like pool water.
That's how you can tell Nestle water, because it tastes like I went over to Luke's house,
dipped a cup in his pool, right after a fresh chlorination treatment, dumped it in my flask
or whatever, and chugged that stuff like a, like a champion.
And your flask that's like already made of the leakiest plastic ever, that's like
making chemicals into water.
Yeah, yeah, like it's horrible.
Most of the tap water in the Lower Mainland is way better than that Nestle water.
So get wrecked, Nestle.
The whole Twitch chat isn't even responding to really what you were saying, they're all
just like, Luke has a pool?
I love you guys, Twitch chat.
There's a new Chromebook or something.
The Chromecast Audio is super cool.
Oh yeah, do you want to talk about that?
So we can jump down, where did it go?
Way to go.
There it is.
So it's a different device, it's not actually like built into the Chromecast, and actually
if you go to the article, the Android Police article, is that the one that's in there?
Oh sorry, I don't think I ever actually brought it up, my bad.
Android Central.
I'll post a different one.
Oh wait.
Under, on the dock.
Okay well, whatever.
So go to that, and then I'm going to post that in chat as well.
Go to your face.
Because I want to show everyone a picture, and see what you guys think about this.
Go to, yeah, okay, so does that, because of the, I know it's because of the shadows, because
of the photo, but does that not look like a Beats logo?
It's the Chrome logo, but it super looks like a Beats logo.
It's super duper nice.
When I first saw it I was like, what, Beats, why?
And then figured out that it's just because of the lighting.
There's a better shot down low, where you can actually see it, but it, yeah, I was pretty
disappointed and then realized I was just seeing it improperly.
So basically, the idea is that you can plug whatever speaker into it, and it's just like
a way better version than those like crap, usually craptastic Bluetooth dongles that
people have been using to do this for quite a while now, because it should just work way
better than that.
Huh, that's funny.
I can't really imagine what could be so bad about those dongles.
I have an HTC one that I was playing around with, because I'm actually planning to do
a video with some car stuff that I'm doing with my car, and that was one of the things
I was gonna do.
In your car it would be fine.
It was fine.
The nice thing about this is it's a Wi-Fi device, not a Bluetooth device, so you can
go in it and be like, play this, and then walk away, or disconnect, and it's fine.
Ah, okay.
So that's a huge improvement over the Bluetooth dongles.
It's a Wi-Fi device, so you wouldn't really use it in your car, I don't think.
Yeah, I can't think of any reason that I would need to do that.
No.
Cool beans.
It's kinda nice because it's a Wi-Fi device, so you can kind of swap between people fairly
easily and whatnot, which would be kinda cool to do in the car, and you could theoretically
do it in the car if you have some way of creating a Wi-Fi network, which should be pretty easy
if you have a phone, but it's not really the intended use case.
I think it's pretty cool.
I could see a lot of people using this thing.
It falls within the same realm as the Chromecast for me, because it's not a crazy thing.
Cheap, cheerful, functional.
Yeah.
Very cost-effective for what it does, and will probably work quite well.
All right, so let's talk about things that worked quite well.
This is a fantastic-looking app.
I am really looking forward to when this puppy comes out on the App Store and the Google
Play Store.
This is described as Yelp for people, and it'll actually let you rate people in much
the same way that you could rate a restaurant, or a store, or whatever else the case may
be.
So imagine this.
You're buying something on Craigslist.
Someone replies, and their name is like, I don't know.
You're buying something on Craigslist, and what you're buying happens to be a person,
and they're rated.
Wait, what?
No.
So the person you're buying from happens to be one Josh Smith, for example, and you look
this guy up, and you kind of go, well, gee, he's got a two-star review from Linus for
being tall and obnoxious.
And a five-star review from Luke for being a sexy beast of a man.
So he's got only a three-and-a-half-star average rating here.
I don't think I want to sell to this guy.
Can you imagine how useful that would be?
Now imagine a world where everyone with, you know, who wasn't the popular kid in high school
could have all the other students in their class post negative reviews about what a craptastic
person they are, and then that person actually wouldn't have any way to remove their profile
or those reviews.
What a future.
Yeah.
Okay, hopefully you guys have picked up the sarcasm at this point.
Co-founders Julia Cordray and Nicole McCullough, I hope I said that right, insist the app exists
to promote positive feeling.
I don't think they understand how the internet works.
As two empathetic female entrepreneurs in the tech space, we want to spread love and
positivity.
I appreciate that message, but welcome to the internet.
That's probably not going to be how things are going to work.
They have some things kind of in place to try to help against this, but I think the
administration of said things is going to be pretty insane.
Once you register negative reviews, if you don't create a profile but others are rating
you, only positive reviews will be posted.
So that's an interesting thing to note, but I wonder if there's comments that go along
with the stars.
And a positive review could contain all kinds of hateful stuff in the comments.
Because you could be like five star bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep hate this person.
This is like crazy stuff.
So you have 48 hours after someone posts a negative review of you, you have 48 hours
to dispute it if you've registered.
So what, I have to be sitting around policing the reviews of me on the people app in order
to...
You know what really scares me about this kind of stuff too?
We did it.
Read it.
Do you know what I mean by that?
Every time that read it is like, oh wow, we found the guy that did the Boston bombing
and it turns out to totally be the wrong person and they send hateful emails and stuff to
their family and they get really angry at all this kind of stuff.
The internet just zerg rushing the wrong person could actually be a really bad thing with
this app.
I think we can all agree that the justice system, regardless of which country you live
in, could probably use a little help.
It ain't perfect.
It can be bloated.
It can be slow.
Yeah.
Civilians helping is a good thing.
Civilians helping is a good thing, but there is also a reason a lot of the time for the
due diligence and the sort of methodical nature that sometimes gets mistaken as being slow
and bloated that the real system goes through because the kind of, I mean, honestly, it
is enough for someone to be, I had a teacher once that was pushed out of his job at a particular
school simply because of an accusation, not because anything was ever proven or any charges
were ever even laid.
An accusation is all it takes to color people's view of another person.
It's just how we are.
If you're accused of something or whatever and you totally didn't do it, the first Google
result is still going to be the accusation.
It'll always be that article, blah, blah, blah, charges laid for whatever.
Which is why a lot of the times they keep the names anonymous until they're fully-
Yeah, a lot of the times.
Not always.
Not always.
So, I don't know what else there is to, I don't really know what else there is to-
We'll see what happens once it comes out.
Maybe there will be some weird impossible beam of hope that keeps it a positive app,
but knowing the internet, I seriously doubt it.
And honestly-
It's going to become, for lack of a better term, a circle jerk for certain people.
Like you said, the popular kid at school is going to have the greatest rating everywhere
because everyone wants to rate him publicly or her publicly so that that person thinks
that they like them so that hopefully they'll be in good spots.
And then if that person doesn't like someone, then it's going to be negative flow and it's
just going to be a crazy popularity contest, I think.
Do you want to hear something crazy?
It actually took me about 15 to 20 seconds to realize what a horrible idea this was because
I am so accustomed to not having any privacy anyway that I don't actually necessarily think
about that aspect of a social network or an app or whatever the case may be right away.
So I am used to people being able to leave a review of me anywhere they want.
I don't care because we're used to that, but some people will not-
And that's their right.
Yes.
That's their right.
I, as an adult, knowingly and willingly gave up a lot of my privacy.
I kind of didn't.
Yeah.
Just sort of happened.
And you were like, hey bro, film a video.
And I was like, all right.
But it's fine.
Welcome to the fan show.
But I knew that going into this and it was fine.
And here you are now with the fact that you have a pool being big news.
Yes.
My parents' pool.
We don't have the pool anymore.
It got torn down this summer.
Oh, I actually did.
Okay.
I did not know that.
It sucked.
Can I think that there is potential- I mean, we've talked a lot about anonymity and people's
rights surrounding it and the benefits to other people of less anonymity in a lot of
cases.
Can I think of situations where this would be useful for me to know that that person
doesn't return tools when you lend them to them or whatever else?
Like I can think of a thousand ways this would be useful, but I can't think of a single way
that it would be useful to someone for their own account.
I can't think of anything someone could say about me on my own account, like in a review
that would benefit me.
So people could say like, oh yeah, he kind of talks over people.
Like when that Luke guy was trying to talk like 20 seconds ago, he just kept on going
like a freight train.
I fricking hate that guy.
I don't even register it anymore.
Sorry, I saw it, but I was just going to finish this point and then hand it to you.
I can see that being useful information for other people to have, but I don't want that
to be the first thing they know about me.
That's a huge part of it is like, I have an opportunity to make a good first impression.
Right?
So why should they, why should they get all the skeletons in the closet right off the
bat?
I mean, shouldn't I get a chance to get to know these people?
Maybe I have other redeeming qualities, you know?
And we're relying on user reviews, which quite frankly, you look at how broken user reviews
are.
You know, for things as simple as a fricking USB cable on Amazon and something as complex
as a human, you're going to trust other people to review them.
One thing that I worry about too is like timed sniping.
This is what I was trying to say earlier is like, oh, they're going on a hiking trip or
a business trip or something.
They're swapping out their sim.
It's based on your phone number.
They're doing something that they wouldn't be able to take advantage of the 48 hour window.
Let's leave some inflammatory stuff.
Right.
Right.
Yep.
I can, I can see people getting trolled like that.
Yeah.
That's not working.
Someone wanted me to move it to the top right and it didn't happen.
We will at some point.
Yep.
Okay.
Oh, we should do our, we should do our sponsors before I forget.
Not that I would ever forget.
Not that I would ever forget my time with Linda.
Well, probably not because you could download the lessons and watch them offline.
So there'd be no reason for you.
That's right.
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of the fact that I learned them on linda.com.
Yes.
Okay.
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Not just because they're sponsors, but because we have people who have been using Linda since
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No, the last one was an outright lie, but the rest was, the rest was good.
The rest was all cool.
Yes.
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Someone was listening to a podcast the other day and there was a Squarespace ad and they
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And they said they immediately had like a whole brain takeover thought of me repeatedly
saying that.
And I think my job is done.
No, your job in a sponsor spot is to make people think of the sponsor when they, I know
who the sponsor is.
Think of the sponsor when they, when they want to build a website, they're not supposed
to think of you when they hear Squarespace is spoken, that's not the point at all.
Well, maybe when they look at me, they think of Squarespace, maybe it works both ways.
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You can use iOS, Android, Mac, PC, and Chrome, and you can tunnel through more up to more
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So this is great for circumventing, uh, sites that you wouldn't normally have access to
a great thing.
People think people love using this stuff for watching online video or streaming music,
for example, when they don't don't have, because the powers that be would not grant them the
privilege to buy the content legitimately.
Um, so VPNs for people who are really determined not to pirate, like you guys are awesome by
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We actually have another use for this in a video that's coming up soon.
So stay tuned for that.
Yeah.
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All right.
We've actually got, we could probably run the show for another two hours because I think
we might have to just rapid fire as many of these as we can.
Uh, so why don't we, why don't we start with the, um, the ZD net, uh, the ZD net in the
twitch chat already?
No, sure.
Yeah, I'll do it.
Go ahead.
Um, but it's suspected that a mobile advertising network has been used to DDoS a site with
hundreds of thousands of smartphone browsers, which is actually like kind of insane.
Cloudflare stated that one customer is hit by 4.5 billion page requests over a few hours.
Most of the smartphone browsers are on Chinese IPs.
It's apparently a browser.
Way to go China.
Wow.
Not the point.
Um, um, apparently it's a browser based layer seven or application layer, a flood attack.
They've been viewed as theoretical in this way for several years, but haven't become
a reality until now due to difficulties in efficiently distributing malicious JavaScript
code.
But that's where the advertising network comes in.
The browser attack peaked at over 20, uh, 2000 or 275,000 HTTP requests per second,
80% from mobile devices, 98% from Chinese IPs.
Way to go China.
Not the point again.
Not the point at all.
It's probably just, it was probably just a hijacked advertising network that was within
China.
It's not, it's not way to go China.
Wow.
Okay.
That's probably about it.
That's intense.
But T-Mobile customers exposed in major Experian data breach.
All right, so here we go.
Bloating up the original article here on the verge.com.
Did you post the link already?
We got this.
Okay.
So, uh, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say that the fact that like everyone gets breached
makes us feel any better about the breach that we had on the forum, but it kind of does.
There's actually been some pretty ridiculous stuff in the last little bit.
All I'm saying is this is why we didn't store financial data.
Yep.
This is, I mean, a lot of people have asked us why the only payment method we accept through
the forum is PayPal and it's because it's PayPal's problem.
We do not want your credit card.
I don't want to touch that at all ever.
I never want to see your credit card and your credit card.
You don't want to show me your credit card.
You don't want to do it because that is not the kind of stuff that we want to be responsible
for.
I mean, honestly, it's, it's, it's enough for us that we have, you know, name data and
stuff like that.
And that wasn't even what was compromised for us anyway.
Even if we had stored credit cards that wouldn't have been compromised, but we still don't
want it ever.
Yeah.
So 15 million Americans were affected and the breach revealed names, addresses and social
security numbers.
I mean, to put that in context, that's about three and a half to 4% of the United States
population.
And definitely enough information to steal your identity.
Yes.
It's unclear how many other companies were involved in the breach, but no banking or
credit card information seems to have been leaked.
Get your name, address and social security number so they could probably get your banking
information.
Now with that said, the social security numbers were being stored in encrypted files, but
it is not clear if that encryption has been compromised.
Okay.
Okay.
So, um, do we know how they were encrypted?
Uh, no, I don't actually a hundred percent know.
I don't think that's in the article or anything, but how they were encrypted would actually
give some insight as to whether, because if it's like some craptastic form of encryption,
they probably have them.
But if it's a little bit more advanced than, I don't know, I don't think it's in here.
It's not, but all right.
By the year 2050, this actually ties in pretty well to something we were talking about last
week.
Uh, human on robot sex could be more common than human on human sex.
Again, I find this not very surprising.
Um, at the very least, just because of like masturbation statistics, it will probably
get off by themselves more than they get off with a partner throughout their lifespan.
Speak for yourself.
I don't know.
I wonder.
Right.
Like in a, in a, still in a relationship, you probably like sometimes, I don't know.
Yeah.
Speak for yourself, man.
Mine's pretty, I don't know.
All right.
So this is the TMI edition of the women's show.
I mean, I didn't, uh, uh, yeah, I don't know.
So what they're saying is by 2030, most people will have some form of virtual sex.
They're saying as casually as they browse porn today.
That's kind of interesting.
That's 15 years from now and, uh, the consumer version one is coming out pretty soon.
Did you say 15 years from now?
No, no.
35.
What?
2030.
Oh, 2030.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
No, this isn't for robots.
They're just saying virtual sex.
So like VR stuff.
So VR, I mean, what would you consider to be VR, VR sex?
Because you wouldn't even necessarily need like a USB accessory and a VR headset.
It could just be a matter of touching yourself with a headset on.
And that could be like a, a virtual sexual experience.
I think that's what they're saying there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because in five years after that, they say 2035, the majority of people will own sex
toys that interact with VR at some point.
I mean, they're also being very loose and easy with their wording here.
They super are.
Um, saying things like most people, excuse me, most people, most people in 15 years probably
still won't even have like decent internet connections.
I was just going to say, yeah, I mean, most people, most people in first world countries
who also kind of at least somewhat like technology, outdated term, sorry, uh, developed nations.
That's like, honestly, I think that one's worse.
No, the first world and third world is actually like a cold war.
It's a cold war term.
Oh wow.
Yeah.
Right.
It has like some weird meanings.
Yes.
Um, and then it's like what group you're a part of.
And then honestly though, I think the connotation of developed versus developing countries is
way worse.
That's pretty rough.
That's like, that's like saying like, I'm not even necessarily true because in a quote
unquote developed country, there's probably more science and development going on.
Um, well, well that's exactly it being, you're never developed.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Um, and like, if you look at infrastructure, we're still improving and calling someone
else like developing, like that's honestly, that's the kind of thing I could see that
turning into like a playground insult.
It's like, yeah, that's the developing kid.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
When you're at the UN or whatever.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Can you, can you just imagine like all the ambassadors?
Yeah.
Developing.
Developing.
Don't worry about him.
He's just developing.
He's just developing.
Like that's brutal.
That's rough.
Um, so anyway, so, so less affluent countries, why don't we say that?
Sure.
Um, and then they're saying again with the loose terminology, robot sex to overtake human
to human in 2050, but like maybe, yeah, maybe, I mean, that's, that is some crystal balls
stuff right there.
A lot of this is kind of crystal balls stuff.
Um, I wonder if anyone has to anyways, um, apparently the sex toy market has been growing
by 6% every year, but it doesn't have specified for how many years again, a lot of this is
a little up in the air.
Um, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't really find this all that surprising.
Yeah.
Like even just porn is becoming much more easy for people in public to talk about.
Uh, there's been protests in what, the UK against porn being banned and like people
went out without masks to protest it.
Like it's, it's becoming much less taboo these days.
So as that becomes much less taboo with porn hub, we should have gone out without pants
to protest it.
Didn't, I think some people like, I probably did.
Yeah.
Um, with porn hub releasing like the twerking butt thing, did you see that?
That was hilarious.
Like it's, it's becoming a, like you can laugh about it.
It's becoming more mainstream.
People are making jokes about it.
People are talking about it publicly.
Um, game of thrones is pretty much, game of thrones is like, wow, like there's some pretty
racy porn on there.
There's some pretty mainstream relationships like it gets, it gets pretty, pretty intense
on there.
Um, so like, I don't know, it's becoming very not weird.
So if you, if you give it that trend and that continuation and then until what, 2050 they're
talking about, like, okay.
Wouldn't be that surprised.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I still have some, I still have sort of some concerns about that.
I mean, I think Futurama covered it pretty well.
I think it could lead to less relationships, but at the same time we have an overpopulation
issue.
So like, is that really that big of a problem?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it still comes out until we're not as many anymore and I guess that'll be a thing.
Um, Tesla unveils the model X.
Yeah.
Speaking of sex, the model S, the model three, the model X.
Oh yeah.
And it's sexy.
Right.
Good job.
Uh, did you, did you post this yet?
Okay.
So that is what it looks like, which surprises absolutely no one at all.
Yep.
Since this has been teased many, many times.
We've literally seen one in person.
There's been minor changes since then.
There's been tweaks.
Yep.
Or twerks as it were.
Ah ha ha.
Ah ha ha ha.
So you look at its butt.
Ah ha ha ha.
Ah, you want to give us the rundown?
Okay.
So there's a bunch of different things that people are talking about.
There's stuff that we've already known for a long time, but I'm going to go through some
of the quotes and specs here at first, uh, they say it's the safest, fastest and most
capable sports utility vehicle in history.
It's actually not super surprising considering what they did for the Model S. Shares DNA
with the top of the line Model S P90D, which is pretty epic.
Standard with all-wheel drive and a 90 kilowatt hour battery providing 250 miles of range.
Sorry.
Performance and standard models available P90D and 90D.
It has seven seats, which is, is that a lot?
That's a lot, right?
I only look at sedans.
I don't know.
Next to five being a lot.
It's not even a lot, it's just standard.
The seven standard?
No.
Well, in an SUV, yes.
There we go.
All right.
So it's not necessarily a lot.
I hate you.
Zero to 60 in as little as 3.2 seconds in your family car, which is fantastic.
That's hilarious.
Uh, same as a Koenigsegg CCX 4.7 V8, although your top speed is not going to be the same.
Yeah, it's limited to 155 miles an hour, so about 200 kilometers an hour, though frankly,
you shouldn't be driving your kids around at 200 kilometers an hour anyway.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is cool.
The Falcon wing doors?
No.
Those are neat, I guess.
But the bio weapon defense mode is freaking lit.
I love how they name things.
No, seriously.
There's like, there's like a fresh air, a recirculate air, and then a biohazard
symbol button that is apparently, uh, it uses a, an air filter that is 10 times larger than
a normal car's air filter that's designed to keep you safe in any situation where the
air quality is questionable.
This is going to be a standard feature on every car in China in like the next like six
to eight years.
You could quote me on that one because that is like, if you can have a filtration system
in your home and a filtration system in your car, if you live in Beijing, you probably
should.
Yep.
Yep.
Uh, when the car is operating at max capacity, we can't even detect any viruses or bacteria
or spores.
It's like zero.
Oh, you keep on clicking around.
I can't read it cause your name things in the way it goes on top of the words.
I mean, I mean, who else?
Who else does this?
Who else does this?
Does anyone else while you're reading, do you just kind of like do this?
But on my screen, wherever his cursor is, it also has a line up and then says, here,
I'll move mine.
So I can, I can see it.
Yeah.
So you know, it says the name.
So it's like it's covering multiple words at a time and then moving around while I'm
trying.
His cursor wars on Google docs.
That'd be the most boring episode of anything ever.
Um, anyways, it's like zero that came through.
If there's ever an apocalyptic scenario of some kind of some kind, hypothetically, you
just press the bio weapon defense button.
This is a real button.
Yeah.
We're trying to be a leader in apocalyptic defense scenario.
Uh, only a leader for the extraordinarily rich and elite.
However, the 90 D starts at 132,000 us dollars and the P 90 D starts at $142,000.
So I won't be buying one of these for my family vehicle anytime soon.
I don't see it on here, but I thought they were saying something about, uh, fitting within
guidelines for like hospital quarantine rooms or something.
Oh yeah.
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
I think it was something like it's as clean as a hospital.
Air quality in the car is on the levels of a hospital room.
Um, all right.
Moving on to our next topic.
I fix it.
They got their app yanked from the Apple store.
They banned their development.
So their account, their developer account got banned in response to their Apple TV tear
down.
To be fair though, in a response they were like, LOL, we don't care.
We'll just work on our mobile site more like literally their developers were like, uh,
we were kind of thinking of doing that anyways.
So whatevs, which is awesome and the best response they could have had.
They're not a sponsor of today's show.
Unfortunately it would have been awesome if that had that particular star had aligned,
but we love those guys.
They're great.
They believe in, yeah, they believe in understanding your devices and being allowed to repair them
yourself.
So, um, with that said, I also have to defend Apple a little bit here because I fix it new
based on an agreement that they made with Apple that if they did this, Apple could take
action against them.
I don't think Apple was in the wrong and they did it anyway.
I just think I think this response was perfect.
Yeah.
So, so there you go.
Um, I fix it.
Well, okay.
I think they're in the wrong cause they should let people do that.
Yes.
But they didn't like, this, this isn't like, this isn't like that bull crap with, um, uh,
with pebble where right after the release of the Apple watch, you couldn't refer to the
pebble app in your description or whatever.
Like I can't remember exactly what they did, but they've done some really stupid stuff.
Um, but this, this wasn't it.
It's just kind of funny.
Yeah.
All right.
Ad block extension begins a white listing acceptable ads.
This is actually something that I talked about on a recent episode of fast as possible, um,
where they've actually had this program in beta for quite some time where their community
got together and made a list of the requirements for what could be considered an acceptable
ad.
So something that doesn't take over the whole page, uh, something that doesn't, you know,
uh, turn up your fricking speakers and play it full volume all the ads on our site.
So yeah, like pretty much the ads on our site for ad block users, which I believe is opt
in by default ad block users would receive ads on our site, but I think we actually have
to sign up, like we have to submit and be audited for the acceptable ads program.
But basically, but basically what it is is, um, here, hold on, I'm just going to go back
to the, to the details.
If your ad is considered acceptable, then you, your, your, your ad will be shown to
ad block users unless they go back in and manually opt out of this program.
Um, it was also apparently sold to an anonymous buyer.
Yeah.
And we don't know who that is yet because they're anonymous.
So there you go.
Oh, there was a previous, uh, controversy, um, IO to the owner of ad block plus.
So this is ad block using the ad block plus whitelist to be clear.
Uh, so IO had previously caused controversy by accepting payment from some whitelisted
ad companies.
It apparently is no longer the case, but I remember us talking about what a conflict
of interest that created, uh, way back when that was happening.
Um, IO says they are not the buyer of ad block.
Yeah.
So we don't know exactly what's going on, but there you have it.
Um, this is stupid.
So yet another, yet another, you know, crowdfunding campaign for yet another phone that will never
exist.
I don't even, I'm not even sure why this is in the doc.
Oh yeah.
It's in the doc cause I thought it was funny.
Right.
I remember why I put it in here.
Okay.
256 gigabytes of storage, six gigabytes of RAM, Snapdragon, eight 20, 24 megapixel camera.
This is symmetium, the no compromise smartphone PC that you can use as a laptop because it
is so powerful.
Holy crap.
This is a render.
That's not a real product at all.
Um, so basically guys, if you're buying us, uh, a phone, wow, that goal though.
Yeah.
I know.
I know where you're at.
Is it flex funding?
I don't know.
If you guys are, can you check if it's flex money?
Cause they have like 50 grand already, uh, fixed, fixed funding.
So if you, if you're buying a phone based on someone on Indiegogo or Kickstarter promising
you that it's going to be really fast, it's going to be the bee's knees, it's going to
have a lot of megapixels.
You know what this would be really good for, not to cut you off, but someone who's trying
to, uh, buff up their marketing portfolio for a resume, like they can be like, look,
I took a product that straight up didn't exist at all, that would never exist, had no possibility
of existing and that no one had ever heard about set my goal at over a million dollars.
And in four days, 114 people gave me over $50,000.
You should hire me with like, that's pretty impressive.
If I was smart, I'd probably say, uh, that's because you promised them something you couldn't
deliver and that's not a viable business strategy.
The door's over there.
Um, but I could see someone getting hired.
Um, so basically, so back, back to what I was saying.
If your plan is to buy a smartphone that, uh, projects that it will be available, when
are they, uh, August, 2016, so in 10 months with like seemingly next gen specifications,
here's a fricking clue for you.
Why don't you just wait until all the next gen phones are out.
You'll have now until then to save the money instead of dropping it now and you can get
them then we just talk about more interest.
Yes, there we go.
Yeah, we're doing this one.
So this is also a Kickstarter, which as you guys know, I'm not a huge fan.
I genuinely don't like giving them a ton of coverage or even talking about them at all,
but this looks like it might be the real deal.
Um, so, so sort of just to give you guys sort of the, the full rundown.
We have never been in touch with scarp.
I don't know anyone who works there.
I hadn't even heard of this until Luke linked me to it.
Okay, so here's how it works.
There you go.
There's a fricking laser beam that goes at a particular wavelength that cuts human hair,
but not skin.
So you basically just scrape this thing along your face and it removes your hair.
Like fricking magic.
What I've been talking about, not to like give other people ideas yet, um, is I want
them to send us one for review.
I don't think they've responded yet.
I had one of our guys send them an email cause I thought it would be kind of fun to review.
We reviewed the shaver a long time ago and I was like, this is actually more, a lot more
techie than the shaver is.
Um, wow, that is a blast from the past.
So here I'll screen, I'll screen share.
So this is what he's referring to.
It's actually the fifth video that ever went up on the Linus Tech Tips channel.
See, I find myself in a tricky situation.
It is now 5.30, I get off work at six and at that time I need to go directly to an appointment
for a portrait.
This is like, I think this is like a week plus for me and I still, I'm still like that.
I'm just going to mute this.
This video is awesome.
Yeah.
I look like you're in front of a projector screen, but you can still see the shelf.
What is this?
Oh man, this is awesome.
I get such a kick out of it when people are like, you're so unprofessional now.
It's like, how, when were you, when was this golden age, when was this golden age of Linus
Tech Tips?
Look at these shoes.
When was this golden age of Linus Tech Tips when you were watching when I was professional?
Hold on.
When did you wear pants that weren't from Costco?
Look at this computer.
Look at this computer.
It's got an optical driver.
But anyways, we had reviewed, oh man, we had reviewed a USB shaver and I was like, you
know what?
This thing actually looks super bad ass.
I think actually makes sense on our channel now.
Are we going to, is the audio playing right now?
No, no.
You can talk over it.
I think actually might like make sense on, it didn't even do much.
Well no, because it's, I had never used a shaver and I didn't realize they only really
work on stubble.
If you want to use an electric shaver, you have to, you have to like razor first and
then you can, and then you can maintain with a shaver.
So I spent like forever and it didn't really work ever.
So also it was like $5 or something from Saiba.
But yeah, this thing's bad ass.
And one of the things that I want to do, I want to review it to see how well it works.
And I think it fits within the tech space.
So I thought we should contact them and see how it goes.
More as like an experimental video to see what people think.
Apparently people freaking care because of how they've raised like two and a half million
dollars.
Almost 15,000 people have backed them and they've raised a $2.8 million, almost $2.9
million actually.
So I thought, okay, we should try to review it.
And one thing that I want to try to do is work with Tarin and get a 3d printed mount
to see if I can use it for shaving hair down instead of actually taking it completely off.
Because they have it going right against your skin.
Just like more like a grooming version.
So like make our own custom 3d printed mount to lift it off your skin a little bit and
then make it so you can...
They might even just make an accessory for that.
I could see them doing that.
Yeah, it's not in the Kickstarter.
So I could definitely see it as like a longer term thing.
You could just clip on, so you could just be like here, here and like, you know, the
places that...
And then sort of everywhere else, that'd be kind of cool actually.
So I thought that could just be kind of fun to do in the video.
I can see this company just making a fortune because...
You know what though?
I think they're largely targeted towards, not really, but like all the people in the
video are men and the stylistic design of the thing looks very masculine.
But I think way more chicks are going to be interested in this.
And I get it.
Yep.
If you're shaving your legs, which most guys don't do...
Which is an awful lot of surface area to deal with.
This would be so...
You could just whip it by.
Yep.
You don't have to worry about cutting yourself.
It's waterproof, which is cool.
So you can use it in the shower, which is super amazing.
Yeah.
I mean, it is...
So it's got...
The laser has a life of 50,000 hours and is powered by a AAA battery.
And the founder has been in the laser hair and skin treatment industry for 30 years.
With all of this said, it's still a Kickstarter.
It's still not a real product.
Yep.
Let's see how it goes.
I didn't back it.
I find it incredibly interesting.
And if it actually works as well as they show, I will definitely have one.
Right.
But I didn't back it because it's a Kickstarter.
I'm going to wait till it comes out.
I'm not worried about it not getting funding.
Their goal was 160,000.
They've made 2.9 basically million dollars.
Yeah.
So I'll just wait.
There's no point.
Honestly, at this point in time, I don't see any real reason.
All the early bird deals are gone.
Right.
So I'd be buying it for a lot.
Yep.
So, whatever.
March 2016.
I'll just wait till then.
All right.
We've got a couple more things.
This is sort of a big deal.
Amazon, don't be douches, please.
Just please don't be douches.
Did you post this already?
No, I didn't.
Amazon is banning Apple TV and Chromecast sales on their site.
So they've quietly informed – it's not just you can't buy it with Prime directly
shipped by Amazon.
It has informed marketplace sellers that as of October 29th, it will no longer sell Chromecast
or Apple TV.
That's annoying.
What the actual crap, guys.
I'm sorry that Fire TV is stupid and that nobody cares about it, but this is really
not the way to go about this.
And your stuff doesn't even work in freaking other countries.
Get over yourself.
Like, we can't even use – what is that even – what is the thing called?
The Amazon whatever.
The tower thing.
So the Amazon spokesperson, over the last three years, Prime Video has become an important
part of Prime.
It's important that the streaming media players we sell interact well with Prime Video
in order to avoid customer confusion.
Wow.
The biggest load of bull crap ever.
I hope that they reverse this decision between now and October 29th or whatever the date
I just said was because that is super, super stupid.
I really hope this turns into an anti-competition lawsuit because this is one of those cases
where it really would be justified.
Yes, I know it's your store and you get to decide what's stocked on your shelves.
Even if you have a section of your store, like – okay, so you go to Home Depot, right?
And there's a Harvey's or a Subway or whatever inside it.
They get to decide, you know, hey, we want a Subway there, we want a Harvey's.
But it's just kind of crappy to just lock out what is effectively – I mean, is it
even a competing product?
Come on.
Like, in order to be competing, it would have to be competitive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was bringing up the Amazon Echo you can't even use in Canada.
Yeah, we had to send it down to our fastest possible writer down in the States to try
out a bunch of the stuff for us and then he's going to send it back to us and we're going
to compile our review based on his notes and stuff like that.
And he's – like, he's good.
He's been writing for us for a long time and that's fine.
It's just we shouldn't have to deal with that kind of crap.
YouTube to potentially announce its subscription service in October.
So the original article here is from Recode.net.
So they are apparently prepping their subscription launch.
Two services, one price.
What this will mean, it's – well, I don't know, not necessarily 100% clear.
They were aiming apparently for a mid-summer 2015 launch.
That clearly didn't happen.
It's possible the launch date could keep slipping and it's speculated that they also
intend to bundle YouTube Music Key with their ad-free video service.
So that's the way it would work is you would subscribe to YouTube, industry sources say
Google has told them it intends to charge $10 a month for the combined music and ad-free
YouTube offering.
Although that's sort of hard to believe because I thought the music service was just
about $10 on its own.
Yeah, I thought it was $8.
Anyway, so the point is you will be able to pay a subscription to YouTube and then not
see any ads on the site.
That is to say unless unscrupulous content creators bake their own ads into their videos
and force you to watch those so they can collect their own sponsorship dollars and Google can't
have their 40% cut of that.
I wouldn't know anyone like that though.
With that said, content owners have been told through a blast email that they have to agree
to the new terms by October 22nd or their videos will no longer be available for public
display.
I haven't seen said email.
I have a YouTube rep so I haven't heard anything about this but there you go.
What else we got, Oculus VR will cost more than $350, fascinating.
So Palmer explains why the first consumer model won't come cheap.
You want to run through this one?
I actually had no idea.
You didn't know this yet?
No.
Oh okay, I'll run through this one then.
So in a nutshell, it's been confirmed that it will cost more than $350.
The reason is that it has more tech than the DK1 and DK2 days.
Although I think we probably expected this back when Oculus freaked out a little bit
when they saw Lighthouse on the HTC Vive and he wants it to be the best it can be even
if this means it will carry a premium price tag to set an example for all VR headsets
and that is important but I remember the whole pitch back when the Facebook acquisition took
place was like, yeah, thanks to Facebook's investment, we can keep the price low.
To be fair though, I'm not that surprised because there's headphones now and the stand
camera is nicer and a stand camera instead of just this crappy thing that hooks onto
the top of your monitor and weighs not enough so the cables always pull it and torque it
to the side and it drives me insane because it never sits flat on top of the monitor.
I have to tape it or glue it on and then that's weird because then I have residue on top of
my monitor and I'm just not happy about it and then now there's a stand camera and it's
better.
And the headband thing is a lot nicer now.
They improved the materials in almost every way.
They improved the camera.
It's not a stand camera.
Yes, we got that.
Thank you.
There we go.
There's little fold down headphone things now which are trash.
Please don't use them.
I remember not that long ago, freaking Palmer was like, oh yeah, they're great.
I'm an audiophile.
They're fantastic.
They're like, they actually sound okay but the problem is that there's those pad headphone
things.
Yeah, so they're like those TDK like $10 at London Drugs when you're desperate and traveling.
And for what they are, I was like, oh wow, I'm surprised this doesn't sound like literally
throw up pouring into my ears but like they're still pad, like they come out on angles off
your ear and it's just like this isn't ideal so get your own headphones.
Okay, I'm going to let you finish but I love, I absolutely love the argument of, no, these
things are great.
I'm an audiophile.
Audiophile literally means nothing.
It's not a diploma.
I don't remember if that's exactly how he said it but it was like, I remember reading
that and being like, okay.
No but I was reading comments on the Beats by 50 Star Wars rap video that we did a long
time ago and I've got people saying like, oh first of all, oh man, one of my favorites
was everyone else on the internet says that these are great so I'm pretty sure this guy
has paid off.
No, not one of these, it was Streets by 50, sorry.
Those were trash.
I know, they were awful.
What?
And then there's always the comments, it's like, I'm an audiophile and these are great.
Let's break it down.
I'm going to break it down for you, okay?
Audio means audio.
File means love.
Audio love.
I like audio and these are great.
That's all it means.
It's not a certificate.
It doesn't give you any sort of like industry credentials, it just means you.
You should take part-time education and like get an audio engineering degree just to troll
the whole internet.
You know I can't do the math.
I can help you with that.
Would you just do the math homework for me?
Yeah, we can show up to test together.
Because I can do conceptual stuff, I've got no problem with that but like you put an equation
in front of me and I'm like, three.
I hope the answer is zero.
I hope it's one of those.
I hope you have to do a bunch of calculations and it's just zero.
We can make it like an online course.
Anytime we have to go in for a test, we can just get like a makeup artist to make it look
like we're Siamese twins.
Just pretend to grab my head to your shoulder.
That would fly.
Like no, this is how it goes.
Yeah, this is real man.
Alright.
Oh man.
So um, someone's saying pedo equals walk.
Pedometer?
No no, that's foot.
Ped is foot.
Well pod is foot but I'm pretty sure, oh crap, is ped walk?
Because pod is foot.
Uh oh.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Okay well I hope I didn't screw that up.
It says they have audio file network cables.
Alright and on that note, thank you guys for tuning into the WAN Show.
We hope you enjoyed it as much as we did.
We'll see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
Maybe the same time.
I hope you guys, hopefully not the same time.
Hopefully oh yeah also, hopefully let us know if you guys like what we've done with the
set.
We actually pulled the table out a fair bit more so you can see a lot more of what's going
on back there.
Personally I think it looks like the bee's knees but I could be, you know, I could be
wrong.
Looks pretty good Mythical Morning.
We're not quite there but we're getting close.
Yeah it does look.
Still some work to be done I think.
Yeah it's still a little bit to be done but it's pretty darn good.
I'm liking it.
Here tell me this, does this help or hinder?
I think it helps a lot.
Should we put the CRT up higher?
Uh what?
Oh probably.
One problem that I think it has right now is it's very much a dark void.
The CRT?
No the whole thing.
Oh well we can light it better.
No I know but that's what I'm saying like the black racking and the dark wood and then
the.
Maybe we should wear bright shirts.
That might help.
I bet that would help a lot.
We should be doing this kind of thing on After Party.
Probably.
Okay bye bye.
Bye!
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Build it.
A lot of things.
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