Welcome to the WAN Show. We are 21 minutes late and Linus isn't even here.
Well Linus, that's why we're late. Yeah. I was here on time.
James was here many hours before on time. Trying to figure out whether or not we should
start it without him.
Yeah. I think he's going to relieve me soon. Yeah. They're filming a video like right
there so us talking is probably going to be super annoying for them but they told
us to do it, right?
You said do it. Not our fault. Welcome to the WAN Show. We got great topics.
User benchmark controversy. They change the weights of how things are scored and
it moves some processes around in the ranking system in some funky ways and
some people, especially the AMD crowd, are very upset about it. And Cloud Fair stops
servicing 8chan. But free speech!
Oh my god! They're a private company. Anyways, AMD Epic 7002 series Roam processor.
I'm not even going to say anymore. All that and more on the WAN Show.
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Oh my. AJ is crying right now.
AJ is absolutely bawling at this moment.
Anytime I say anything French, I think the hair and the veins on his body are just like
partially wolverines.
Okay. Did you know that in America the Kia Sportage is pronounced like Kia Sportage?
Really? Yes.
Like in ads and stuff? Yeah. That's what I heard.
Sportage. Interesting. Speaking of Sportage,
Cloudflare terminates. They did this, right? They terminated the...
Okay, so Cloudflare terminates 8chan. That's, I believe,
I mean, Cloudflare isn't like a server host.
So they probably terminated like DNS setup and all this other kind of stuff so you
wouldn't be able to get there.
But they didn't like delete the, you know,
they don't have that type of relationship. But...
For all intents and purposes, the website's down until you find a new
replacement. From what I've heard, they did and then that's gone now too.
Right. So what happened was they got another... Hot potato. They went to a competitor
whose name is on here but I'm on the right part of the doc. Sure.
Epic? Epic? Yes. Epic with a K. That's the most
epic type of epic. Absolutely. Epic, in turn, though, was relying on the
services of Voxility
who pulled the plug on Epic after it learned that 8chan had moved to Epic
because they had the same
philosophy as Cloudflare. Okay. So as far as I know,
you still can't get onto 8chan. Okay. I think.
I'm not gonna try right now but... I tried earlier and all I got was,
like, literally if you just type in 8chan, all you get is articles about how it's down.
About, like, all the recent news about it. I can't even get there. It used to be fun when this kind of stuff would
happen and you would get, like, the FBI website seized
page. Have you seen those? It should just be like a gif of an FBI guy.
We're taking your website! What are you doing here?
Let's see. Like a guy, like a
detective guy. Yeah, these.
These were epic. Yeah, those are cool. Show them.
Yeah. What do your LVIs see? Seizure of mega upload.
It's, like, so aggressively official-looking.
Seized in the background, repeated over and over and over again, and then it's like
government stamps. It's like strobing. Government seizure, government seizure.
It's like the purest form of justice porn, I think.
We did it, guys. Let's put our stamps and stuff all over it.
It's ours. We took it. So, yeah, okay, so what happened? This is related to
a recent tragedy, particularly the shooting in El Paso.
So, I'll just read it here. The suspected gunman in the recent El Paso shooting appears to have been
inspired by the forum website
known as 8chan, which is, of course, related to 4chan, but even less moderated.
Even less? Yeah, some people call it Infinichan,
Infinitychan. It's basically
described as, like, a blank piece of paper. You can just write whatever you want there.
Okay. Anyone can start their own little microblog there. Alright. It's unmoderated.
Okay. For the most part. It appears that this gunman
posted a 2300 word manifesto to the site just 25 minutes before beginning his
attack.
That guy is online. 25 minutes before.
Well, we'll see. The plot's stickins.
Okay. Nearly the same thing happened on 8chan
before the terror attack in Christchurch, New Zealand.
Yes. So, I think there's at least three
big tragedies linked to 8chan at this point.
That's pretty intense. Yeah. The El Paso shooter specifically referenced the Christchurch
incident and appears to have been inspired by the largely unmoderated
discussion on 8chan, which glorified the previous massacre.
That's a dark stage of humanity. If
you have unmoderated conversation, it just turns into that.
I think that there's a few different things going on. I think when
populations get
significantly large or sufficiently large, there's just
a minimum percentage of crazy people, and when there's billions and billions of us,
and we can all
connect with each other. As long as you speak, you both speak English, or you both
speak the same language, you can find each other.
And everything's so broadcasted, and people won't shut up about their names,
and they get glorified to a certain degree. Yeah. They can find each other.
Yeah. And when there's just so many people on earth, and they can find each other like that,
there's bound to be a handful of them congregating in the same space. And on top of that,
I think that people get radicalized. You see this other content, and it
pushes you into places you haven't been before, and you actually get worse.
And so there's a feedback loop there. It's like riot mentality, but website-based.
Yeah. I find, and this has been talked about a million times by people way
wiser and more intelligent than me, but it's really, really frustrating when something like this
happens, and they
broadcast pictures, and their writing, and
their name, and everything, because it makes them famous within various circles.
Well, on the bright side is, I was researching this story today, and I still don't know the dude's name.
Perfect. Okay. So that's cool. Good. So what happens was Cloudflare steps up, and they made a big blog post
statement saying why they pulled services from this particular website, which is, they stress not
something that they want to do. We have some quotes here saying, we reluctantly tolerate content that
we find reprehensible. Like we try to host a lot of companies that we think are bad people in the
name of free speech, and giving platform to as many voices as possible, but there's a line quoting
again, but we draw the line at platforms that have demonstrated they directly inspire tragic events,
and are lawless by design. HN has crossed that line. While removing HN from our network takes the
heat off of us, it does nothing to address why hateful sites fester online, because that's a big
thing. A lot of people are saying, well, this isn't going to do anything. The site's just going to go
back up online tomorrow, and if it doesn't, another site like it will. Websites are really hard to
squash. There's a lot of places you can go to stick around, and yeah, I mean, the people that were on
here are still going to be on the internet, so. Yeah. Although I think, I don't know, sometimes
when you remove a forum like that, you just have to find somewhere else to hang out, and maybe you
de-radicalize a little bit. Maybe. But it's the internet. I find it interesting that they're not
onioned, because like that's not even hard anymore. I paused for a second before I said that, because
I was like, maybe I should give them the idea, but then I'm like, it's pretty freaking obvious.
They're internet people. Yeah, they can probably figure it out. A-Prime is here. He must hate
something about the show. No, I didn't realize you guys were. I thought he was an Enderman for a
second. What's an Enderman? He just, what is it, like those Minecraft games, where if you, if you,
yeah, if you look at them, it's like a problem, but he just, and he just like stands there and
takes things every once in a while, and you're like holding something. I feel like the fact that
I've never really played Minecraft is like a kid never having played Lego. Yeah. I feel like it's
like a, pretty much a shame. Yeah. What a shame you never played Minecraft. Yeah. And what a,
what a, um, tone pivot we just did. Yeah, absolutely. Back to the dark stuff. Okay,
so Instagram made a response because, well, what happened was after the Cloudflare thing,
yeah, the CEO of 8chan made a video, and it, it's pretty interesting. It's really free speechy.
It's really like, there's a superimposed Benjamin Franklin, like picture in the background,
like a wolf t-shirt almost. Okay. And he basically says like, look, we abide by the law.
We're always forthright. We work with the police, like within minutes of these attacks,
like we're not evil people. I'm not an extremist. And this is a blank piece of paper that people
can use for whatever purposes they do. And sometimes evil people like this use it in
evil ways. Okay. Cause that's not, free speech doesn't mean as far as I know, literally everything
in America, cause I'm talking about the American one. This is not my own country's laws. So I'm
not 100% on top of it, but as far as I know, you can't do like calls for violence and stuff.
So it's not purely a blank piece of paper as far as I know. Cause that's not allowed.
Yeah, there's definitely limits. Yeah, you're not allowed to say certain things like free speech
to a certain degree. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But then there were some, there were certain things
that he called out as facts. Like he said that the shooter posted not on the manifesto, not on
8chan first, but indeed on Instagram first. And he then also says that the manifesto was not uploaded
by that same user. The shooter did not upload it. He may have written it, but a different user
uploaded it. Obviously, if that's true, then it would have been someone working with him.
Yeah. But, and he also says that Cloudflare has an impending
initial public offering and they just want like good PR in the lead up to that.
Okay. Cause like, okay. So something to talk about in, in Cloudflare, I say this every time
something like this happens on one show, which is fairly often is Cloudflare is completely within
their right to do this. Of course, not the American government. They're a private company. They can do
whatever the hell they want. We work with Cloudflare. They could take full plane and
Linus Tech Tips forum off their service if they wanted because they're, that's completely within
their rights. So sometimes the free speech argument when you're talking about a company
doesn't make a ton of sense to me. You can go after their policies in regards to how they deal
with that. Cause like an example that I like to bring up is that the forum does not have anything
like that at all. There's no like free posting rules on the forum. It's a tech forum. We have
an off topic section where you can talk about some stuff, but we usually try to stay away from
political things. We just try to stay away from whatever. The reason for that is there's no paid
moderators on the forum and those kinds of topics create a lot of work and they're all volunteers.
That is actually the reason is because we have a bunch of volunteer moderators and when you do that
they can't moderate the rest of the forum, which is actually the important parts in my opinion.
Just go somewhere else. It's a tech forum. There's a big old internet out there.
Exactly. So like I like to defend the company's ability to kind of do whatever in that regard
because we have a similar problem on the forum. This is obviously a ridiculously different scale.
But like, yeah, I think it is definitely up to the companies to do whatever. Now
Cloudflare has positioned themselves for a long time as a defender of these types of things.
So that's where it starts to get a little bit interesting because Cloudflare has refused to
take down a lot of different websites. Well, in their own words, they're struggling to create
a policy that can be broad and consistent and apply it again and again. How do you word that
perfectly so that it aligns perfectly with your values across all these myriad situations that
are just getting crazier and crazier every day it seems. How do you make a blanket rule?
Yeah. So I can sort of understand the response to a certain degree because they've positioned
themselves as that entity that will defend kind of whatever. But then I just want to keep in mind
that it is a private company. It's not the US government. That law doesn't really apply.
Well, the mission statement is something like to create a better internet and the definition
better though. It really depends. Does that mean career or does it mean safer?
Yeah.
Who knows? So after the CEO of HN made that statement, actually Instagram or Facebook
responded saying Instagram said that the shooters manifesto was not first uploaded to Instagram
indeed. They did find an Instagram account that was tied to the gunman and they disabled it,
but it had been inactive for over a year. So who knows?
What does this HN CEO know?
What is this Facebook PR person telling us? Who knows?
Yeah. It's kind of interesting how it's turning into like a,
no, the crazy guy posted something on your site first kind of battle. That's a little funky.
I don't know. None of this is good.
But when the Christchurch shooter did this thing,
he streamed it. Was that not on Instagram that he streamed or was it Twitch?
Facebook, I think. I don't think it was Twitch. I'm not sure. Oh, right. Yeah. Good call.
I'm actually not sure, but I think it was a Facebook owned entity. I thought it was Facebook
itself. I don't know, but I'm not, I'm really not sure. But that, that one had weird ties to
like, he called out, subscribe to Pewdiepie and he did all this, which was like really
stupid and didn't make any sense at all. And there was a bunch of other stuff that
it's really interesting how it's, it's kind of the reverse of the like NASCAR idea where like
when one of these crazy things happen, everyone tries to figure out anything that they had any
interest in and then applies evil to that. You know what I mean? Speaking of evil,
that was awesome timing. So out of focus.
And that's the end of that topic anyway. Yeah, perfect. Because I didn't really want
to talk about it anymore. What up, what up ladies and gentlemen? What topic is no fun and no good?
Uh, 8chan taking down, or Cloudflare taking down 8chan. Oh lordy. Yeah. We thought we'd get rid
of that before you showed up. Yeah, that's a complicated topic. I actually had wanted
to talk about that. Okay. Throw your input. Um, cause I feel like a broken record on these
types of topics. Oh, Oh yeah. I love bios updates that are completely like, okay, I can postpone it.
Wow. There's a, there's a, there's a countdown. I'm sure nothing should ever automatically
buy us update. Can we just agree on that? Yes, we can. Okay. We can. You know what? No,
I'm going to play, I'm going to play devil's advocate because I just watched a video from
Paul and he said one of the highest shame things to do is have your computer brick because you,
you, uh, power goes out while it's, while it's bios updated in the event. Remember,
this is a device in this case, which has a built-in UPS effectively. Okay. So, uh,
so there's that they do have, that does help. They do have one safeguard in place.
This is really not going well. I think it went away. Nevermind. It went away. There's a weird
error, like unrecognizable error. Okay. Um, okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, did it again. Okay. Now I, I,
it's hard for me to do this, but I'm going to, I'm defending this behavior right now. Okay. I'm
playing devil's advocate here. Okay. I don't know. Just, just, just, just, just hold on for a second
here. Okay. There's some kind of horrendous CPU security exploit. Okay. The only mitigation is
like a microcode update. Okay. Your computer's bios. It should, it should update. It should
like make you, I don't think it should automatically happen on a timer. No, I don't
really disagree with you. I think it should tell you and be like, yo, you should like really do
this. Um, but yeah, I don't. Okay. So what if your battery's low? Well, you'd think it would check
like the bios can read the battery percentage. Are you sure that did? Maybe. It didn't look too
sophisticated. Okay. So hold on a second. Let's talk about, let's talk about the, the whole
8chan thing that went down. So my main take on this, so there's a couple of things. Um,
I am pro free speech, but here's the thing that a lot of the people upset about cloud flare
blocking 8chan seem to have overlooked. Free speech. I mean, okay. There's a number of ways
that free speech gets misunderstood by the average person. Way number one, free speech is protection
from government persecution, not the right to just say anything you want to anyone you want with,
uh, no ill effects. That is not what free speech means. So the other thing too is the general
concept of your rights ending where someone else's begins. Cloud flare is a private enterprise
exercising. They're very similar to free speech. Like there's a lot of things that are not
technically speech that get protected by free speech. Um, but they are effectively exercising
their free speech rights to not deal with or have any association with 8chan. Okay. Point number
three that seems to get misunderstood by a lot of people. The United States of America is not
actually the world. I didn't bring up that one. That's usually one of your favorites. Yeah,
I know it is. Yeah, yeah. No, I brought up these, like it's a private entity thing,
but I didn't bring up the America isn't actually the entire world, which is, I don't know. That
one just, I just, I get such a kick out of that one because I always get these messages. Um,
whenever I'm in another time zone, why are you uploading at three in the morning? Because
East coast USA is just one of, believe it or not more than 24 time zones. There are a lot of time
zones. It's amazing. You'd be, you'd be floored. You'd be floored by how many times zones there are.
Um, all right, so we can go ahead. We can move on to the next topic. Yes. Uh, why is this not,
why is this doing this? How many times do I have to load my browser to the perpetual land show
document? Okay. So what have you guys talked about so far? Just the HN thing. I think we should do
the user benchmarking cause it's in the title. Okay, let's do that. So the user bench controversy.
So we were actually supposed to talk about this when we did Wancho live at LTX. Oh, we, yeah,
we, we said it was one of our highlighted topics. We were like going to talk about it.
And then people got mad at me cause they were like, you guys are covering up for Intel again.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, chill, chill for a second. We got all wrapped up,
like giving away cool stuff to the audience. Like we were just like having a good time. And actually
we didn't cover a ton of topics for some reference. You know, not at all for some reference of how
much I've completely forgot this. I'm the one that decided it was our headliner topic. And I got him
to pose for it and everything. And I had, I don't think I'd ever seen this before. So the only
reason I brought this up was cause I saw a couple of comments that people were like, Hey, you guys
said you were going to talk about this. I was like, yeah, we did actually. Okay, we should do that.
I hope you called it out as your call to topics because I don't remember this literally at all.
So user benchmark or user bench or whatever it's called. Yeah. User benchmark, which I have
actually never heard of. Should I have heard of user benchmark? Let me go make.
Okay. I have, maybe I've heard of it at some point, but use your benchmark has never actually
been part of our benchmarking suite. You're sharing screen sharing by the way right now.
It's never been part of our benchmarking suite here at Linus media group. I have never run it
out of idle curiosity. So I thought it was something else. No, I've never seen this either.
Okay. Cool. So anyway, they get millions of website traffic every month. So that's cool.
Apparently they recently adjusted their score weighting mechanism. So previously
they weighed single core performance as 40% of the score quad core as or quad threaded.
Jump back real quick, jump back to your sort of show a quad threaded performance as
50% of your score and multi-core performance as 10% of your score. I have fixed it now.
So you can see on their scoring things that have percentage values, user rating, percentage values,
single core, multi-core. I don't actually see the quad core thing, which is the highest weighted
one. So not sure, but don't worry about it, but they have everything like set on the top here.
Okay. So they came out and they were like, however,
due to unrealistic scores of many core CPU's like Ryzen 3000 series user bench changed their
weighting system as follows. 40% single core, 58% quad core and only 2% multi-core. So.
Previously it was 40% single core, 50% quad core and 10% multi-core. So they dropped the multi-core
by a lot. All right. So this riled up AMD fans who want to see their team's processor at the top of
the chart. And you guys shouldn't be fans of microprocessor manufacturers because I'm, I'm
election on election all secret. Okay. They don't care about you. I know they care about
their shareholders. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm damaged now. Anyway, so this, this riled up the people
who are fans of AMD. And to be clear, I'm not down on being excited about competition in the
marketplace. I'm excited about that, but I'm not a fan of AMD. I'm not a fan of Intel because at
the end of the day, business is business and that's all it is. Okay. So this riled up AMD
fans who are fans for whatever reason, because the $120 quad core core I three 8,100 now beats.
Oh wait, no, sorry. This is a point of clarification. So here's the thing though.
AMD processors were not the only ones negatively affected in terms of their perceived value by
these changes. So the $120 quad core core I three 8,100 now actually beats Intel's $2,000 18 core
core I nine 99 80 XC and the rankings because of its higher boost frequency. Oops. So user benchmark
has hundreds of thousands of benchmark submissions in its database. It influenced the purchasing
decisions of nearly 10 million visitors each month. While this sounds like an ad for user
benchmark, which I've never heard of no following the July, 2019 cohort, we noticed the CPU gaming
and desktop indices were overestimating all CPUs with core counts beyond eight. So we updated that
index. So this is basically them sort of clarifying why this was done. You know what? I understand why
AMD fans are mad because you know, their thread ripper CPUs now don't look as good. But the thing
that people have to understand is that while I don't necessarily agree on 2% as the right number
for workloads that will take advantage of a thread ripper for the average user. It's definitely less
than 10%. Yeah. So, and like from the wording that I've seen, it literally says it's geared towards
gamers. They say that in the text on their website. So I think user, I think what they could do is a
couple of things. They could improve the system by either updating it frequently, because if the
idea is that they want to wait, they want to wait the workloads that are likely in the present day
more heavily. That's that makes total sense. That absolutely makes sense. Or what they could do is
they could allow you to run it a couple of different ways. So you could, you could run it
in like today mode, or you could run it in forward-looking mode. As software gets more
multi-threaded, I'm going to care more about that. I want to buy a future, I hate the F word,
but a more future proof processor. Yeah. I know. I like one of the things that I like about that
concept is just, you could even pick the future one, knowing that you have some use cases now
that could use multi-core more and just be like, I am a future man, future man. But like, it's,
I like the idea of being able to mess with it. So you could go like, okay, multi-core is this
percentage important to me, quad-core is this percentage important to me, single-core is this
percentage. Some of the problems there is some people aren't going to recognize how important
single-core is due to a whole bunch of reasons and other various things. But yeah. I mean,
it's interesting. I do agree with multi-core being down. I, again, and I, but I don't know about the
2%. I don't know about 2%. That seems pretty low. On the other hand, and like, if they're looking
at it going, yeah, you know, an upcoming 32 core Threadripper, or wait, there's a 32 core now,
isn't there? Yeah. So an upcoming like 64 core Threadripper or something like that for the
average user's workload, no, is not going to perform, you know, 80% better, you know, in,
I don't know, Far Cry 5, Battlefield 5. It's not, it's not, it's not actually materially faster in
workloads that most average users are going to be running. Yeah. No, I will restart later computer.
Wow. That's really annoying. You know, it could be kind of fun. Yeah. Benchmarking not that this
news matters enough to necessarily do this, but having a video where you benchmark the
I nine 99 80 XE versus the I three 8,100. Just go like, how does that exact video?
Not quite, but I think we did a hundred dollars CPU versus $1,000 CPU. Okay. So close,
but we're talking 120 versus two grand, but similar, very similar. Let me see if I don't
remember exactly what we, Oh no, we did as a $600 CPU, 10 times more powerful than a $60 one.
That's pretty cool. People hated that video. Why? They were just mad. I don't know why they
were mad. Yeah. It has like a 10% dislike ratio. I don't, I don't get it. What were people mad about
mad about? Oh, some people were mad because I kept calling it a core I seven. Cause this is
back when core I nine for new. And I was like, that was a hard vocal shift. I don't blame you
too much. Is this $600 Linus more powerful than a $60 lose? What are these comments?
Title is clickbait $64 instead of 60 reported. Get over it. Okay. You know what piano banana,
let's answer your question. I'm watching every video from you for years and have an important
question. You never answered. What should I do when I want to share my mouse and keyboard
between multiple computers at once? Wait, are they just joking about it? Must've had like,
it's going to be an ad spot. It has to be an ad spot. I'm sure you mean sponsor spot.
Oh, sorry. But yes, spawn. There was a sponsor spot for synergy. Very, very funny. There was a
lot of synergy at sponsor spots. We don't do ads online as tech tips because ads might compete with
Google's ad formats. Right? That's why we only do sponsor spots. I am so sorry, Google. I apologize.
I will take whatever punishment you seem. Yeah. Go sacrifice a marshmallow to our overlords or a
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going to do is we're going to do a spot for them that looks and feels more like a pre-roll ad.
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get like a tech link spot. And I'm like, what even, what are you looking at? I think that's
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was just like, Oh no. Oh no. I'm happy. They're focusing on Linus and they cut to me. I'm like,
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might want to be careful about where you do that. Yeah. Yeah. And they come in different types of
metal like aluminum, carbon fiber, and titanium. One of which is not necessarily metal. Use offer
code LTT July to save 10% at Ridge wallet.com slash LTT. Now I want to move into what is actually
the main topic of today's wan show. Okay. So there have been some epic battles. Oh,
you've been so excited about this on YouTube over the years. Some epic battles. Oh, one epic battle.
Oh no, we're going that one. Epic battle was between the Epic rap battles characters,
Bill Gates and Steve jobs. That truly was a spectacular episode of Epic battles. More
importantly, there was the Epic battle between T-series and the one and only Felix Kielburg.
Whatever. It doesn't matter. Pewdiepie. Okay. Pewdiepie. Yeah. You know, for top,
top subscribe channel now, he Elberg. We're not, we're not in a position. We're not in a position
to battle over the top most subscribed did YouTube channel of all time, but there is a rivalry that
has actually been heating up over the last little while. And so I just want to take this opportunity
to say it. Um, Marquez MKBHD. Oh, I choose you consider yourself called out because now people
who creep YouTube stats might know this already, but most of you probably don't Marquez actually
what four years ago, five years ago, I think skyrocketed past Linus tech tips for most
subscribed tech channel. And then Lou actually blew past both of us, but we're not talking about
that. This is a race for the silver medal. Second English speaking. Okay. Technical
Guruji technically over 10 million subscribers. Second English speaking tech YouTube channel
across the 10 million subscriber mark. Marquez consider yourself called out because,
and I'm sure you noticed this man. We actually passed you for subscribers about what was it
about six months ago, Brandon? Does that sound about right? Okay. Now with that said, the race
is going to be super interesting because Marquez actually passed us again about two or three weeks
ago, but then check this out. So he's gaining an average of around 4,800 subscribers a day. Yeah,
yeah. That was a note 10 launch. So he can be very spiky, but he's gained an average of about
4,800 subscribers a month and he's sitting at 9.054 million. Now by comparison, the Linus tech
tips channel, 4,800 subscribers a day, a day, sorry, a day. It's like 140 a month by comparison.
The Linus tech tips channel is a little behind. We're actually about 80,000 subscribers behind,
but that is not an insurmountable difference. When you look at our daily average, which is about
5,500. So we can win this fight. Also one thing, a little bit of a hot fire. He's a B plus rated,
your A minus. So yeah, so social blade, social blade knows what's up right there. A minus. You
like that? You like that? A minus right there. It's green. His is yellow. Just saying. Yep. So
Marquez, it's on. Sup brah. It's on. So I'm challenging Marquez to be the next one,
the next tech channel to 10 million before us. And I'm challenging you, our community to help,
help me out here, please. Because we've been watching it internally. Like it's, it's something
that I don't think I've met a YouTuber. They might deny it in public, but I don't think I've
met a YouTuber who doesn't creep other YouTubers on social blade. We all use social blade to like,
you're like, Hey, how are other people in this space doing? Yeah. It makes sense. So we talk
about it internally, but now it's public. So I really need you guys to help me out because
I am now officially out of the closet when it comes to my YouTube stat watching habit.
And I would like very much to not be embarrassed. So guys share Linus tech tips with your friends
and family, preferably the ones that will actually watch because it can actually affect us negatively
if people subscribe and then don't watch, it makes YouTube think that like, people subscribe
and don't like the channel cause the content sucks. So like find someone who's actually techie
and make sure they subscribe. If all 7,000 of you do that today, then we can at least keep pace with
him over the last couple of days. Cause he's had a nice little bump from the note 10 that I had not
anticipated necessarily before conceiving of the idea of challenging him on the land show today.
You should pull a Mr. Beast and buy out all the billboards in an area, but just to troll really
hard, buy them all out in his area. So he like, so hold on a second stuff. So don't, don't say
anything because we have some plans and I don't want you to accidentally say anything that we
actually have planned and ruin it. Okay. Okay. So we'll talk offline. Sounds good. But yeah,
okay. Tell you what, tell you what, I can't tell you guys this unfortunately because it would
really, it would really ruin a thing, but I'm going to tell Luke and you get to judge by his
reaction. Okay. How funny this is. Dot picks up really. Okay. I'll be very quiet. I'll be very
quiet. Okay. I haven't even told you the funny part yet. Okay.
Okay.
Yeah. So that's how it's going to be. Okay. Okay. Okay. And then hold on, hold on.
Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is going to be amazing.
Okay. Okay. Sorry. So anyway, I guess I choose you, um, bring it on.
That's all I have to say about that.
Uh, if he responds with anything, anywhere near that amazing, this is going to be
absolutely fantastic. Officially best tech feud of all time. Uh, because the tech feud between
AMD and Intel is officially over. Um, Intel is just not really participating in the feud
anymore. It seems, uh, Oh wait, I didn't mean to actually share my screen there. That doesn't
matter. Uh, the original article here is from our bud Patrick Kennedy over at serve the home.com
and his headline pretty much says it all AMD epic 7,002 series Rome delivers a
knockout. So if in the consumer space, whoops. So if in the consumer space,
AMD got competitive with Intel and managed to pull out ahead in given workloads, particularly
multi-threaded workloads, because when we talk about AMD being great for gaming with rise and
third gen, we're talking AMD caught up to Intel and they now like beat them a couple times,
but Intel still at the top end of their stack is the best performing CPU strictly for gaming.
When we talk about the server land world place thing in the clouds,
those are workloads that are inherently heavily multi-threaded an area that AMD has, uh, cemented
a firm grasp on when it comes to performance leadership. Um, and this is bad. So remember
that video I made a little while back where I talked about how I can't hold tech stock,
um, because it would be a significant conflict of interest. If I didn't feel that that was too much
of a conflict of interest, here's the thing. I make my money through ads and sponsorships
and, uh, merch sales, um, and, and all kinds of different ways. Um, so I, the way that I look
at it is like, look, I can't have my hand in every honey jar. Okay. So, so playing tech stocks is
going to be a honey jar that I just cannot ethically participate in. And you know what? I
need to be comfortable with that because I have all these other ways that I make a very good
living. I'm not complaining at all. So I'm just gonna be like, you know what? I'm not going to do
that. But if I had had the opportunity, I legitimately, even though I don't actually
participate in stock trading, I would have bought so much AMD that day. And honestly, it was not
because desktop rising was like going to be competitive or whatever. That was what the word
on the street was. That was what AMD was broadcasting, shouting from every roof rooftop
that they could. The thing that I was actually excited about was this. That is the Epic
announcement. Wow. Okay. So when we go back to when was computex like sometime in June. Okay. So
computex is like what mid June. Oh yeah, no, this is the spike, right? Yeah. Early June. Here we go.
Yeah, early June. Here we go. So it was actually pretty similar. This kind of like
downward trend and stuff like this stuff can be all over the place, but you got to remember
when you're buying a stock based on the quality of the product portfolio, right? And the competitive
position of the other players in the same market, we're not talking about holding something for
like a month or two and going, okay, that was my gains. I cash out and like you flip it and
buy something else. Because the thing is for an actual competitive advantage, not just like,
oh, there's a rumor of a buyout or a merger, blah, blah, blah, like that kind of stuff that
really causes stocks to spike and decline or like large shareholders dumping to artificially
deflated and then buying in low or whatever. Like there's all kinds of things that can affect
a stock. If you want to capitalize on something real, like the actual position in the market of
the company, you need to take a longer position. And what I had an inkling of at that time
was that over the next couple of years, AMD was going to win back significant market share
in a space, not gamers. Guys, there's no margin in gaming chips. Like there's a little bit,
but come on. Not, not gaming chips. I'm talking the big stuff. I'm talking $7,000 CPUs of which
two go in one blade server of which there are four per freaking like, like server of which
there are like, you know, 16 or 18 per freaking cabinet of which there are a hundred in a data
center. That's the big business. That's the big money. That's where AMD is going to be coming
back in their next quarterly earnings report. Maybe not even the next one, because after you
launch a product like this, it takes a while for those big requests for quotes to come in.
Or I think it's actually short for request for quantity. I think it can go either way,
whatever. That's where those RFQs come in. And you know, you look at it, you, you, you
you put together a quotation, the buyers take it, they talk to their upper management, blah,
blah, blah. There's a whole process. But it's going to, yeah, it's going to take a quarter
or two, maybe even three, but that's where AMD's quarterly earnings at some point in the next year
are going to look like this. That's where it's going to spike hardcore. And that's where I was
looking at it going. That's why I would want to take a position. Now heed my warning. Since
I said that, since I made that video, AMD has already spiked significantly. And I am not in
a position where I am advising anyone to buy or sell stocks. That is not my job. I am not an
analyst. Remember, no matter how good things look, stuff could go wrong. Dr. Sue could die
of how excited she is about how amazing her company is performing right now.
Or a fab could have a problem. Yeah. TSMC could explode. Okay. That could actually happen.
China could get really upset. Yeah. Remember, remember when, what was it? Floods in Thailand
that like, well, with that said, WD and Seagate stock actually spiked because of that. Cause they
just sold hard drives for more margin. But anyway, that's a whole other thing. But something I've
been, yeah, the point is stuff can go wrong. I'm guaranteeing nothing, but this was what I was
actually amped about, but couldn't really talk about because I had nothing concrete to go on at
that time. Zen 2 is a freaking beast. I wish I had my swear button so I could bleep myself. Cause I
wanted to use a different word. Okay. So epic 7,002. Can you show your doc for a sec? I can.
Who wrote this? Uh, James. Why? We need to do like a word count thing for how many times AMD
and Epic were typed in this. Well, AMD is having a pretty epic run here. It's just,
it's every single line, AMD, Epic, the AMD, Epic, AMD, Epic, pretty much. You should read through
Patrick's article cause it's great. Um, but pretty much almost across the board, except at the very
low end, Epic is just, I mean, it's just crushing it. I mean, for a single socket, we're talking
128 PCI express lanes versus what is it? It's either 46 or 56, something stupid like that.
Like over double the PCI express lane count when we're talking big data and machine learning and
stuff like that. A lot of the processing isn't done on the CPU anymore. It's done on GPU's.
So this, these are not even GPU's. I mean, there's other specialized processors. Intel just released
their FPGA thing. Yeah. Intel themselves seems to know this. Okay. And then aside from that,
you need massive storage, you need PCI express for that. Everything is PCI express now. Uh,
they've got way more memory bandwidth. They actually run at faster memory speeds,
DDR4 3200 versus 2933 and they've got two more channels per chip. They completely
re-architected the way that the memory actually connects to the CPU. And this is really cool
because I was actually doing a video on Intel skull trail the other week. Remember skull trail?
Yeah. Okay. That was Intel's dual socket, uh, gaming enthusiast platform. It was eight cores
at a time when nothing had eight cores in the consumer space anyway. And, um, I was blown away
because I pulled up task manager and I noticed that it only had one Numa domain. And I was like,
Oh my God, it had a Northbridge. So the CPU's, the CPU bones connected to the Northbridge bone
over the front side bus and the Northbridge bone connected to the, the FB dim memory bone. So
there's no latency penalty for this CPU to grab data from Ram that's connected to this CPU's
integrated memory controller because there is no integrated memory controller. Okay.
But integrated memory controller is still has a benefit over that archaic architecture because
basically having a Northbridge means everybody gets a latency hit instead of only when you have
to cross into another domain. Now with Epic second gen AMD actually architected effectively a more
Northbridge like system with fewer Numa domains, except it's all on, it's all on chip. So there,
I forget what they call it. What's their IO hub thing that they're building into the thing.
They made the IO die, the center of the server, blah, blah, blah. I forget what they actually
call the damn thing though. I'm sorry. You'll have to forgive me. I don't remember what their,
what their term is for it. But what this means is that the best case scenario. So just like with the
Northbridge, the best case scenario for memory access actually gets a little bit worse, but the
worst case scenario gets way better, especially in dual socket configurations. What's that?
I think it's still called Numa nodes. No, no, no. The IO hub has a name. Yeah. I forget. I forget
what it's called. You know what we can probably, you know what let's give, let's give Patrick's
articles some shout outs here. It's pretty awesome. Let's just find it. Blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, Patrick, you don't label your pages.
Dude was to move the traditional Northbridge functions, blah, blah, blah, et cetera,
et cetera. Come on. You're killing me here, dude. Okay. Something, something, something, something
I'm dying. Andy's approach is different. Integrated server controller hub, the SCH.
I think that's it. No, that's not it. Is that it? Maybe that's it. You know what? It doesn't matter.
I don't care what they call it. The point is, the point is they have smoothed out the latency for
memory accesses. They have sped up the memory. They have more channels. They have a 15% IPC uplift
over first gen epic, which is freaking phenomenal. They have up to a 64 core product. I mean, we are
talking Intel's dual socket servers having a difficult time competing with AMD's single,
single socket chip and, we're ignoring price. AMD's 64 core chip, the top spec one is like
7,700 us dollars. A single Intel 28 core. Okay. Single one is 10 grand for their top spec chip.
Now you're going to get those at lower prices. If you're buying in volume or blah, blah, blah,
whatever, but you have to assume that AMD has got discounts on offer too, depending on how much
you're buying. The point of the matter is just that Intel is not competitive. And then their
pricing is out of whack. There is basically now I want to get Epic in-house here. I want to play
with it. I want you guys to play with it for like a video transcode server. I'm working on it by the
way. Okay. So I want to get Epic in-house, but as far as I can tell outside of some very specific
use cases, like if you must have AVX 512, which is an instruction that AMD has not implemented
yet, if you must have it, AMD don't got you back, but that's about it. I was going to say for a
vast majority of other stuff, AMD list prices on competitive parts are 25 to 35% of what the
compute performance would cost to get from Intel Xeon comparables. That's compute performance cost,
not like chip per chip. So that's actually like more important. That's savage. It's savage.
It's savage. We're bringing that back. It's savage. We're going to like 20 to 18.
Yeah, exactly. Savage beating. It's like, it's hard to watch, you know? Yeah. It's hard to watch.
Like Jake Paul. Yeah. Oh, equally hard to watch. Nice. I don't know. I've never watched a Jake Paul
video. It might be great. I wouldn't know. Speaking of things I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know how to
get rid of Nick other than to tell you guys about the hoodie I'm wearing right now. Oh,
right. Really? Oh, it's not. I thought they just took pictures now. Oh, okay. This is not on sale
yet. Sorry, Nick. What can I do for you? Did you see the thing that lights ain't here? Oh,
that. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about that. Also, did you guys talk about how like,
there's a rumor that Dr. Sue's going to IBM or whatever? What Dr. Sue might be going to IBM?
Well, like there's a rumor. There's a rumor. It doesn't seem very
that she directly responded to it being like, this is not true, which to me makes it more true.
She said it's not true. Interesting. Denied a rumor she wants to be IBM's next chief exec.
That would be lame. That would just be a lame move in my opinion. Maybe IBM just buys AMD.
I don't know if IBM could buy AMD and retain the x86 license though. I think that would be the
issue. Yeah. There'd be like no value to it. The licensing around that kind of stuff is crazy.
Yeah. And also there, that would be a significant market consolidation because IBM and AMD
actually AMD is poised. That's a really interesting thing too. They're also poised with these massive
many core CPU's PCI express gen four. They're poised to take on IBM potentially in applications
where firms wouldn't have to completely re architect because that's one of the things that
IBM does so well is they focus on the interconnect rather than focusing on just the performance of
their power cores. Um, so, so they're, they're like Z series in particular is really designed
for like many, many transactions and connect all the fricking things to it. And AMD is really
taking a very similar approach with x86 that Intel has largely ignored over the last four years.
So if I was Dr. Sue, I mean, I don't know what her executive bonus package looks like or what
IBM could offer her, whatever the case may be. But if I were Dr. Sue and I were looking to leave
a legacy behind, I would probably try to make it at AMD and just kick IBM's ass instead of joining
them. Just for like a bill and Ted level overview of this. It's just boring. Stay at AMD. It's more
fun. Yeah. It's like interesting. It has made the industry so much more exactly stay. Like I was so
way more fun. I was so bored of CPUs for a bit. Yes. Like everyone was no, apparently that's
false. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So apparently that rumor about Dr. Sue being somehow related
like niece or something to, uh, no, I thought it was outright false. Lisa Sue related to
Jensen one. Here we go. That auto-completed for me. Uh, let's see, uh, technically her grandfather
is Jensen Huang's uncle. They are not exactly niece and uncle, but relatives is what this says
from 2018. I don't know. I had people calling me out when I was talking about it and they confirmed
her grandfather being someone's uncle. That's relatively far detached. Second cousin once
removed or some crazy. Yeah. Whatever. Okay. I can't find anyone. Go far enough back. I thought
one of them denied it. Didn't they 14th cousin, 32nd time removed. Nick and I are related. Yeah.
All right. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Let's uh, let's move on to something pretty sick.
Oh, apparently our Twitch title is wrong. Dang it. Whatever. Oh, what do you have?
Oh wow. Okay. Nick wants, Nick really wants me to do a March update. Okay. I'm not that
into the suede hat. Can I show them one of the other ones for context? Uh, someone was
wearing one earlier. Uh, who was it? Yeah. Okay. So we're working on a new hat for tech linked.
Um, it's going to have like this little metal thing in the corner and then it's either going
to be like a plain kind of suede style. What do you think of that material? It feels quality.
It does. But I think it's a different kind of personality that wears a suede hat versus the
other one. What's up? Like you can see. Oh, well yeah, that's just like, that's a characteristic of
suede. But that's what I mean. That's one of the reasons why I probably wouldn't be super into it
though. Yeah. Um, one thing that I have as a completely outside person. Yeah. This is very
trendy right now. Yeah. But I like snap backs. You like snap backs. I'm that guy. But this is
trendier. This is what people want as far as I know. So I like the Heather one. Oh, this is nice.
Yeah. I really like this one and this one actually. They look the same, but they're not quite
actually. Oh wait. Are these ones the same? Oh, Oh, it's the pin. There's, there is another color
of Heather. That's a little lighter. I think the dark one is the one that I don't normally like
gold, but against that, like the gray Heather, I think it looks pretty good. So that's pretty cool.
That's not actually the one that I am most amped to talk about right now though. So I'm going to
go ahead and pop out this hangouts window because we are finally working on the LTT merch that was
like Thanos inevitable. Yes. How close are we to this? We're it'll, it'll be a while. It'll be a
while. So first should be before holiday first, there's going to be a mouse pad. So we're actually
going to throw this up. We're going to pull people on this. Can I, Oh yes, I can pick a design to
tell us what designs they like best. We might do more than one by doing pre-orders. So we're going
to do, no, that's a disaster. It's a bad idea. So we're probably going to do a 10 key list and
a full size size with like a nice reasonable mousing area. So we've got kind of your, okay.
So something that we've done intentionally is left the mousing area, mostly blank. So that's
to make sure that we don't have any tracking issues introduced by the graphics. Now most
modern like high-end mice won't have an issue with that, but we want everyone to be able to use them.
Here's a more colorful version. It's kind of like winter slash Northern lights kind of inspired.
I like them. Here's just like an LTT circle logo inspired one. I think this one's a little busy
personally. This is my first time actually seeing these by the way, guys, they look like they do
kind of look like dogs. I think we're out. Yeah. We're out on the dong. We're out on the black and
white dong design and probably the orange dong design too. Yeah. We could just do something a
little bit more abstract like this. This is dead on arrival. Yeah. Here's Oh, the tech link actually
looks really good. Yeah. I like that. That one's that was sharp. Actually the tech link branding
lends itself really well to like clean, cool designs. Yeah. And yeah, I'm going to throw out
all my socks and buy a bunch of these. It is inevitable. Yeah. It was going to happen also.
I don't know if you guys can see this, but yes, confirmed. We are working on a sandal. Okay. Can
I petition? I don't know anything about what you guys are doing. Yeah. It's going to be a while
guys. Like you'll be wearing these sandals next summer. Okay. Maybe, maybe, maybe it makes it by
then. I'm happy. Everything. If everything goes according to plan, you will wear them next summer.
You guys now need second layer bottoms. So like not underwear bottoms. Cause then if you do that
with this, you'll have every, so I actually don't want, that would be every, I just killed that
project, but that would be every, okay. Here's the, I didn't, well, yeah, it was like a hundred
percent LTT. All right. All right. All right. Chill out for a second here. Chill out for a second
here. So pants are really tough. Sizing is really challenging. Not like jeans. You got to hold on.
Even then you got to accommodate all the different waist sizes, all the different leg lengths and all
the combinations thereof. Okay. So there's a huge like front loaded investment to bring in all these
different sizes. That assumes that you can even figure out, you know, how to make the clothing
fit nicely with all these different body shapes and types. Pants are hard. Number two, what kind
of pants? Because jeans basically, you're not going to take on, I don't know what a popular
jean brand is. Levi. Sure. You're not going to take on Levi's. G star. Yeah. So jinko, jinko,
whatever the pitch that I got, the pitch that I got was joggers. Now I don't think I, they're
basically very similar joggers are pretty much trendy sweat pants. And the thing is I didn't
actually kill the project so much as I put it on indefinite hiatus because, um, see the thing is,
okay, so the reason that I put it on indefinite hiatus is that from a, um, from like a, a being
excited about the merge standpoint, I don't wear sweat pants and I don't wear joggers. Those are
probably closer to joggers than they are to sweat pants. Honestly. The dream hack ones. Oh yeah.
Yeah. They're very joggery sweat pants. Like they're more fitted and stuff. They're not just
like, I'm sick today. Yeah. Those are, those are, those are probably basically, I would basically,
yeah, I would basically want something that isn't, I'm sick today pants, but isn't jeans.
Like, okay. I don't know fashion, but yeah, something you could wear out, but we're not
trying to compete with jeans. So, um, uh, what's her, what's her name again? The, uh, um, the mom
of all the famous Kardashian people, uh, Chris Jenner. So believe it or not, it was actually
after a presentation from Chris Jenner of all people where she was talking about how, how they
decide on which business opportunities to pursue. Because when you're the Kardashian slash Jenner
clan, you have basically an endless supply of people pitching you on endorsing their product or
branding your whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she went, one of the most
important things for us was to focus on what we're passionate about because then you will never get
bored of it. What's up? You don't wear hats. I actually don't. I actually do wear hats very
rarely. I used to wear a hat every day. Okay. That's fair. So I actually like, I can understand
the hat and when I go out on the weekend and I'm like out in the sun, I will, I will take my hat.
Yeah. I do wear my own. Remember when you used to wear them all the time? So, um, so, and besides
the hat project was actually already complete when I attended that workshop. So anyway, the reason
that I killed the joggers and fast tracked socks. Oh no, I'm cool with that. I just want to
eventually have more colors of water bottle. It'll eventually happen. So what I told Lloyd and Nick,
sorry, no, that's okay. So what I told Nick and Lloyd was we're going to do it, but we're going
to do it after we've explored the things that I'm like really excited about and passionate about.
Yeah, no, that's cool. Like I am. I don't care if it happens in 2025. I just want to eventually
be able to walk out of the door wearing purely LTT here. I hate it when the ice breaks free,
but the fancy new jacket takes the brunt of the blow and it wicks right off. It does actually,
this is not actually a jacket though. Okay. Can you get the terminology right? I'm sorry. Okay.
This is the swacket. Swat jacket, sweater jacket, sweater jacket. Okay. Okay. Okay. So feel the
material here. Okay. So it's kind of like athletic sweater. Okay. Feel the material here. Definitely
jacket. It's a swag athletic sweater between the, so you can still get soaked while only
getting a little bit. So it's a swag. Okay. And it also has like more, more like out at night
features like this is reflective, which is actually reflective strip on front and back.
That's cool. And I will also say it hit the sweater part of the sweater jacket combo and
still wept off. So my joke about getting soaked. So it's designed to be a little bit shoutier
than stealth hoodie. It is a bit more expensive. I think it's going to be about $30 more like
particularly not stealthy, but it's YKK zipper. The material quality is really different. Like
it's higher. Not that stealth is bad, just that this costs more. And it retains one of the
key features of stealth, which is of course the secure foam pocket. I'm just going to throw in
there really quick. The material on the stealth hoodie is actually like particularly nice. We've
had a complaint that I don't think is going to get solved, but Brett from UFD tech was like, dude,
I'm left-handed. I know I watched the video. I don't think there's any solution to that.
I mean, we could do like a one-off for him, but other than that, no, we don't plan to do like a
left-handed design. He'd probably freak out. Is that possible? I mean, anything's possible. Is
that doable? Like they are actually working on an order of stealth right now. Is it possible to,
what size is UFD? I don't know. Medium. Is he a medium? I could see if we could get him a lefty
one. Okay. Can you see what you can do? I'll see. All right. And then we're not doing this for any
guys. We're not, we are not doing a left-handed skew because it's, it's just another. It's a
nightmare. It's another inventory item to manage. But you can go like this or you can pass it to
your right hand. Yeah. But, but it's totally possible. UFD has pimped our merch so hard
that just for him, we will, we will try. Yeah. I'm not promising anything. So anyway,
we've got a bunch of different sandal designs to look at. Some of them are immediately off
because anything you can't run in like this, you're done. You're done. It's out. My biggest
thing is you have to like it and want to wear it like a lot. So, well, there are key considerations
for me. Like I do, I do expect, even though I'm wearing sandals, to be able to run in them. Yeah.
And so it has to be a design that's trapped for your, for your video where it was, I think it
was Taren, where you, where you had like a battle with him about the, the, the pros and cons of
sandals versus shoes. I like that. I know, but this sandal needs to win that. Yes. You know what I
mean? So it has to have everything that is good about a shoe. Some of these designs actually look
kind of sharp. I think that's mainly just sock designs. Is it? Well, it's not like the sandal
stuff is like by accident and we should absolutely coordinate the sock design with the sandals,
which is I think why he provided it this way. But some of this is, some of this is looking for,
I like this one actually. I think this looks pretty good. So my question about the whole like
Kris Jenner stuff is like, where does the kimono fall in that? I have no idea. I don't actually
pay any attention to their merch crap. So do you know what the kimono is? No, it's Spanx with an
extra scooping of cultural appropriation. I don't know what Spanx are. Do you don't know what Spanx
are? It's like those, like, why would we know this crap? Why do you know this crap? Not leggings,
but like under garments to like tuck all the fat bits in. Oh, okay. Maybe I should know that.
She called it a kimono and then cause she's Kim and then everyone got upset. I actually give
beyond the excellent message that was in part of that talk about business. I give so few cares
about the actual content and products over there. I've had a, I've had a minor, I might be one of
the people that buys a whole bunch of element shirts to expand their clothing because we,
I had my dad over last night. Yeah, that was epic. I had my dad over last night to look into
a plumbing issue at my house and we figured out that the hot and cold water is unreliable because
when they plumbed the apartment building that I'm in, they run the cold water right next to the hot
water and it heats up the other pipe. So we've, when I've been washing my clothes, they've all
been shrinking. So all my shirts are effectively larges now and they're supposed to be extra
largest. So I've like lost weight, but look heavier, which is sweet. That's really cool.
So what are the other considerations for the sandal durability? I can smell sandals.
It's okay. Sandals always fail in the same spots. Okay. That makes sense here. Yeah.
Uh, there's just like a handful of stuff holding on. There's a handful of spots that they fail.
You can see this is totally detached here. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, how long have you had that
though? I expect a long lifetime out of my sandals. Yeah. No, I think this is the like
second or third pair since I've known you. Uh, no, it's probably like number four. Okay. Yeah.
So I do like one every one and a half years or so. It depends on when they fail. No, I think that's,
I think that's pretty reasonable. So if we can, if we can get to that kind of level of quality
and remember I wear them every day, like this, these are my everyday carry. Um,
so every day strap weaponized sandals. Yeah. So, Oh, which mouse pads do we like? Uh,
I can't figure out how to get back to the mouse pads. I can't close this for some reason.
So I don't know. Like escape isn't working. I can't. Oh wait. Oh, you guys doing a feedback
thing? You guys doing a straw poll or some other kind of, I think they're different files. I think
we're going to put it on Twitter. Yeah, no, I know they're different files. I just, I can't close
this. I don't know. I don't know how to close it. Oh wait. I know what the problem is. It's a
separate tab. There's well, there's your problem. Uh, all right. So yeah, I don't, I don't want to
look at that right now. I want to look at the socks. Okay. So I like this one. What do you
think? I like the top left one. Yeah. I like a little bit of color in my socks personally.
But what about doing like a different color? We don't have to be married to orange.
I like orange. I like the, are you guys doing one? We don't know yet. It's going to really
depend on minimum order quantities. We found a supplier who seems like fricking legit. Like they
make socks for brands that I've heard of, which is cool. Um, and like not Hanes, like, like brands
that make like high end hiking socks and stuff that I have heard of. And I was like, okay, cool.
Okay. Um, so we found like a really good factory we think. Um, but their minimum order quantities
are like 3,500 pairs, stuff like that. Like really, really high or in total, like dangerously
high, like, like per, I actually Lordy, I don't know. Cause I was talking to John about this
before the show. And if you guys are vetting as well as you've vetted for everything else that's
on the store so far, I'm probably just going to throw my socks away and get these. And I'm not
and I'm not exaggerating. We're going to do our best, but making a, like a sock that would satisfy
me, which is what it has to be, is not going to be easy and might even take longer than the sandal.
Yeah. So, but that's, but that is why I'm probably going to do that. So, you know,
the minimum quantity thing, maybe I'm going to make you start buying merchant at some point.
Well, I know I'm going to have to cause like, I can't just give you your entire wardrobe for
no, I actually don't want here. I was fully expecting to buy all of that. I'm being very
clear about this. The I'm probably going to do an underwear swap at one point in time.
I've kind of decided that you're not the only one we have gotten so many orders for specifically
like two packs of underwear, which is like nobody orders two packs on their first order. That's
cause they already have a pack. Yeah. And like three is laundry once a week with a buffer.
Yeah. It's gotten to the point where I get a little bit annoyed when my LTT underwear are
not clean. Cause then I'm like, now I have to wear some other junk. I'm just like, that sucks.
Can't put other junk on your junk. No, exactly. All right. Do we have any more topics for today?
There's some stuff. Oh yeah. Apple is locking iPhone batteries to the phone. So the original
article here is from iFixit. So Apple has announced that only Apple batteries can go on iPhones. And
furthermore, only Apple may install them. RC mail posted this on the forum. So if you replace your
battery in the newest iPhone, so the 10 S the 10 S max and the 10 R a message indicating that you
need to service your battery appears in settings battery next to battery health. This service
message is normally an indication that the battery is degraded and needs to be replaced. However,
even if you put in a brand new battery, a first party Apple battery, you take two iPhone 10 S's
and swap their batteries, they will both display the error. That is unless an Apple genius or an
Apple authorized service provider authenticates a battery to the phone. That phone will never show
its battery health and will always report this vague ominous problem. So the way it works is
that there's a Texas Instruments microcontroller on the battery that provides information to the
phone like capacity temperature and how much time until it fully discharges. There's nothing
inherently wrong with that as far as I don't know of a phone that doesn't have that feature. I mean,
Apple's is a little bit custom, but like basically the thing that has changed now is that the chips
in the newer iPhone batteries include an authentication feature that stores the info
for pairing the battery to the iPhone's logic board. If the battery doesn't have the unique
authentication key the iPhone's logic board is expecting, you'll get the service message.
So I wonder if anyone can figure it out and if it would be even remotely worth it
to swap the microcontrollers. Apparently, yes, that would work. It's extraordinarily difficult,
but that's what I mean. It's more work than it's worth basically. Because, and this is something
that is sort of, I guess, a saving grace of this move. Other than giving you that message,
it doesn't have an effect. So you know how if your battery is degraded past a certain lifespan,
Apple can throttle the performance because it can't deliver the peak power that the phone needs
in order to perform its best or whatever. Apple's degraded message here doesn't force the phone into
that mode or anything like that. For now. Hold on. It just says degraded and otherwise the phone
operates normally. Okay. The problem, as you ruined my transition to, is that this is yet
another bloody slippery slope for Apple to lock down their devices even further so that nobody
without Apple's permission is allowed to open a device and service a device that you own.
Even Tesla is improving in this regard. And like they do not have a good track record. No.
So I don't really have anything else to say about that. Like I do,
I understand Apple's point to a degree. You know, every time an iPhone blows up, it makes the news.
Apple doesn't want that. And if they could, you know, look back at some telemetry data that shows
that that phone was giving a message to their owner that the battery needs to friggin be serviced
and be like, well, that wasn't the battery we put in there. That would be very nice. That would be
very nice for them. I'm very conflicted on Apple right now because I kind of really want an iPhone
as my daily driver because it would be very nice for security reasons. And the sign in with Apple
stuff that's coming and all that kind of stuff is really cool. On the other hand, you know how much
a battery swap by Apple costs? Exactly. Right. Yeah. So there's like, there's the like, I really
like privacy things and I really like right to repair. And right now they're not going together
at all. Yeah. And that's pretty frustrating. That being said, how many times have you had a battery
swap in a phone that you actually, well, you're a bad person asked for this. No, go ahead. Ask me
how many times have you had a battery swap on a phone that is your personal daily driver?
Oh yeah. No. Cause I know you've had them for like the security phones and stuff,
but that doesn't really, yeah, no, no. Like I've done phone battery swaps, but I changed
phones so often, you know, the note nine might be my first one based on how the note 10 looks
because I'm not upgrading to it. Can we do a quick straw poll? Sure. I want to use the new polling
service, but it's not ready yet. Sure. Hit me with that straw poll. What do you want to know Luke?
What do you want to know? Should it be like more than once? Can we assume that getting a battery
swapped one time in a phone is not that big of a deal? Sure. Is that fair? Yeah. So have you had
your battery swapped in your phone more than once? Yes or no? Sure. Okay.
Okay. Yes. No.
And then these types of polls have a tendency for people to only answer if they're in the upset
category. So I want you to answer this. Yeah. No matter what. Yeah. Okay. Hit me with that poll.
I'm dropping it in YouTube. Dropping it in that YouTube.
Good job. Are you going to drop it in that float plane? Oh, you don't have the float plane stream
up. You know what? I'll do a couple of super chats while we wait. It's already up.
Have my free money. Oh, thank you. Steven Elswick. Hey, from someone deployed overseas,
love your channel. Having your content to watch after a long day is how relax and go float plane.
Yeah. You know that if you give us a tip on YouTube, they take a bunch of the money.
And if you do it on YouTube, float plane takes a bunch of the money, which is good.
I mean, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. You know what's really funny? We have had some
people. We actually need a tip feature because this is probably an additional tip. He's probably
subscribed on float plane already. We do. We do need a tip feature. We have had people that have
contacted us asking to pay the higher tier. Really? That's why I had you update the description
being like, hey, you get all the same things. And then we had some people be like, yeah, no,
I just want to pay more. But when is 4k going to be ready then? Oh, okay. Pretty soon actually.
Okay. Well, we can roll out a 4k option. That'd be pretty sweet. And then I actually,
do we have a feature yet to quickly export people's emails if they want to be on a special
mailing list or like whatever, like when are text posts coming? When are all the features coming,
Luke? The, the, the, the, the user list export thing is something that was brought up very
recently by e-bus box and is not currently roadmaps, but is interesting. Interesting.
We're currently trying to like fix some things now that we've onboarded some creators,
some more problems have surfaced because we haven't onboarded creators in forever.
So we're trying to like smooth those over and then keep moving forward.
Okay. I'm posting the link to Twitch, which got ignored for a little bit.
Hey, can you guys do a show about trying to get FreeSync working on a G-Sync monitor?
We could, I actually don't know. I don't know if you can do that because variable refresh rate,
like that implementation of variable refresh rate from FreeSync may specifically not be supported by
Nvidia scaler, which is like a hardware piece in the monitor. I don't know. The answer is I don't
know. So I might've said something dumb just there, but it wasn't my fault or at least wasn't
my intention. All right. Let's have a look at our straw poll results. Have you had your battery
swapped in your phone more than once? Wow. So not many people actually. No. And this is from
an enthusiast crowd. So you, are you okay? So, okay. Hold on a second here. So are you suggesting
then actually I have a couple of different angles here. So are you suggesting that we should just
treat a battery swap once every three to four years as part of device maintenance. And then
after that, the phone has probably exceeded its usable lifespan anyway. So off to the recycler,
basically. Okay. Let me suggest that our enthusiast crowd may have actually swayed this
poll the opposite way. You might think because they're buying devices. They're probably buying
devices. Interesting. This is part of the problem with like pulling any like specific crowd. We
need, we need like a wider net. That's interesting. That might actually be very true. I don't know
because I know I think the only person in my personal life that isn't me or you that's gotten
their phone serviced or has worked on their phone to the point of taking it apart and swapping
things that wasn't like the hot swap removable batteries from back in the day is like one of my
parents and that's it. Right. So like, I don't know of that many people that do it, but that's
also an extremely narrow scope. So that doesn't help either. I don't know. Ultimate fails. Any
plan to make a left phone pocket stealth hoodie? Oh wow. We covered that. Ethan, free speech laws
in the U S are sticky. Some speech becomes an action. For example, death threats are illegal
regardless of how they're conveyed. Yep. That's a good point. We did bring this up. Ilia. Hey guys,
before LTX you promised to host the next financial wearing only underwear, including bras. Did you
lie? We didn't lie. We forgot. And we also didn't promise, but I forgot. I totally am down to do
that. What you don't have to do is fine. Win config today. We learned Linus is mostly libertarian
regarding speech at least. Here's the thing. Labels are bad. Labels do not promote independent
thought. So no, I would never call myself a libertarian. I would never call myself a
conservative. I would never call myself a liberal. I would never call myself right wing, left wing,
or even centrist. Someone's going to grab one of those. Yeah, I know. And then use it against you.
I would never say that Hitler wasn't. Okay. That, that clip of me. I know. Yeah, I know.
But if it didn't, someone would just fake the rest of it on. I know. Right. So anyway,
I would never use a label to describe myself because a label does not adequately convey
the thoughts that I have about these kinds of complex issues there. And they shouldn't
for you either, because just because the other libertarians think something doesn't mean that
you should. Not every personal liberty makes sense. Some of them do, but you have to actually
think critically about whether things are a good idea. Yeah. David says, depending on if you're
talking about free speech as the first amendment protection or free speech as a concept, because
there's a distinction there that is correct, but either way, what I said stands. Nope says you
should collab with my car mods. That would actually be sick. Yeah. Thomas says, name your upload time
and dot beats really cool. Any chance of purchasing a float plane t-shirt? We don't have
plans for that right now, but it is something that we've given some thought to. Yeah. Quaidro says
just replaced my GTX 780 willing to sell it to Linus for $500. Great deal. I bought it new for
$650. Have original box and receipt. Can't hold it for long. GPUs are hot right now.
I think that message took about a year and a half to come through to us.
Spaghetti Vivo. I'm auctioning the domain plain float.com on GoTad. Yeah. He's been
bugging me about that. Good luck with that. We have no interest. Have fun, dude. Thanks for the money.
How to overclock a laptop by seven. You need to have an overclockable laptop and then you
need to press the overclocking button in most cases. Captain, captain, no captain. I don't
know what you're talking about. Can't sleep. Take my sleep deprived money. Okay. Sure. Sean says
unsubscribing from MKBHD. Not my real dad. No, don't do that. This is all about more subscribers
for LTT. Not less for Marquez because Marquez is a cool dude. IQ solutions. Reach out to my communities
for you. Keep it up. Awesome. Val says bought merchant April to be shipped to Singapore back
in April. Hasn't arrived. Support has been scarce because of the windup to LTX. Okay. Yes. Email
support again. We will get it taken care of. If not PM me on the forum. Actually PM Nick.
Don't PM me. I get too many PMs. Lego man says I am watching while wearing one of my new element
shirts I put on last one show. Yeah. Okay. So that's a case where we did chip it out quickly.
Megan says Luke laughs at everything. Tell us. I can't. I'm sorry. How about a hat or mousepad
for float? Okay. We don't have a plan for flip flip. Make more float plane gear says Megan again.
Okay. Elwood says LTT swimwear when LTT kids wear when my son, every time I bring home a new
merch item, he's like, daddy, is there one in kid's size yet? Oh, kid. No. What am I? Sorry.
Makes baby gear. Do they really? Yeah. Of course they do their blizzard. Yeah. Why not one phone
pocket on each side? We actually like the symmetrical or the asymmetrical look. I'm sorry.
It was, it was a style decision. I'm sorry. I'm not exactly a style expert. Probably costs more
money. I liked it. Not much. It's a style decision. Okay. Reggie says just wanted to
give some support for getting the Epic news in there. Yeah. It's a big deal. Joggers are
running shoes do shorts instead. No, no joggers or pants, but depends where you're from. You
might be from like the UK or something. Oh, you're from Australia. Okay. Well that explains
the lingo difference. Okay. I think that's all we have time for today. Oh, okay. Nicholas
says I carry two replacement batteries to swap on business trips. Right. But you are an edge case
and you know, you're an edge case. So cut it out. All right. So that's it for the land show this
week. See you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel. I'm out next week. I'm on vacation
time on the same channel. Anyway, I'm on vacay, but I'm not going to see you again next week. Same
bad time. Same bad channel, but he will. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you're not on vacation. I don't know
who's going to be there with me, but someone probably not physically. Oh Lordy. Did we not
update the float plane title either? Dang it. Oh, you got that one. Oh, what'd you buy?