for example, where we do not in fact allow
political discussion, regardless of which side
you personally lean towards.
And we also said that Blizzard should not
have had any consequences for the participants
because we didn't feel like anyone
had been appropriately warned,
something that I had wanted to discuss afterward.
Okay, so they were appropriately warned.
How appropriately?
They knew something was gonna happen.
Yeah, but that's different.
Allegedly.
If I speed against a highway sign,
I know that my ticket is gonna be 157 Canadian dollars
with three points against my license.
That's really specific.
Did you recently get a ticket?
No, I just approximated.
Okay, okay.
I gave it exactly, the point I was trying to make,
giving an exact number, is that if I read
the Motor Vehicle Act, I know exactly
what the consequences are going to be.
Now obviously, there's some nuance there,
there's some interpretation there.
If I was speeding against a highway sign
while there was literally a school bus full
of children trying to cross the road
and I don't, you know, yield to them,
well then I'm also probably gonna get hit
with reckless driving, endangerment, blah, blah, blah.
There's a whole bunch of other stuff.
So no, it's not as cut and dried as here's the offense
and here's the exact consequence.
But Blizzard doesn't have a Motor Vehicle Act
and so they clearly didn't lay out,
okay, well, if you deviate from the talking points,
yes, it was a great match,
yeah, a lot of respect for my opponent,
they played hard, this is an honor,
thanks mom and dad, bye.
You know, like if they don't have a menu of consequences,
then you can't run around
basically destroying people's livelihoods.
That's maybe a part that you guys also missed on the stream.
Those of us who were like,
yeah, you guys are like super pro-China, pro-Blizzard.
We were talking about how destructive this was
to not just the streamer,
but also the casters that were involved
in this heavy-handed punishment.
And trying to suggest ways that you can support them
in the meantime while they're banned
because Blizzard reduced the ban
from 12 months to six months,
but that could potentially ruin someone's career.
Okay, Enrico makes a very stupid point.
You're treating critics of China
like any other much shallower critics of like sports,
I don't know, comes off as insensitive and pro-China.
No, we're not.
Again, we're not necessarily
the greatest political commentators out there.
I don't know how to explain it to you anymore clearly,
unfortunately.
We said standing on the side of Hong Kong
is the right side to stand on.
I don't remember exactly how it was worded.
Which critics of China did we treat as, what?
We also actually haven't commented at all
about critics of China.
Nope.
How, when?
One of the tweets earlier.
One of the tweets earlier.
Oh, but that's because it was an incorrect translation.
Yeah.
And we showed the correct translation,
which is still, as was stated, horrible,
but it's not, it was an incorrect,
we should be mad about the right thing.
That was what I was saying.
Are we sure it was an incorrect translation?
We're fairly sure.
Okay.
Yeah.
I have someone that I know that speaks Chinese
that read it and translated it
and their translation was extremely similar
to a translation that was posted by a random user
in the Twitter thread.
Yeah.
So we're pretty sure that one was more accurate.
It's still bad.
And we said that.
Yeah.
It's just different and I would rather
people were angry about the right thing.
Yeah.
So.
Because that makes your argument more irrefutable.
It makes it stronger.
It's a good thing.
You want to be angry about the right thing.
This will help you.
I'm trying to, I'm trying to help you.
All right.
So there you go guys.
Hope that was fun.
In summary,
Blizzard did the wrong thing.
Lawful evil, like we said.
Lawful evil, like we said.
Were they within their rights?
Yes.
Not their social rights.
Right.
I didn't say responsibilities.
I said rights.
Yes.
They were within their rights.
It is within the letter of the law.
Did they do the responsible thing?
No.
Have they backtracked?
Yes.
Have they backtracked enough?
That was coming.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Are we pro China?
No.
I don't know why you thought that.
I don't know where that idea comes from.
We talked before the stream like,
all right.
I don't know if going over there is going to be
honestly, I haven't considered
getting on a plane to China ever since
Canada detained, what's her name?
Hang Mei something I think.
I don't remember her name.
Yeah, Huawei's CFO, the founder or whatever.
I'm sitting here going like,
China's whole reaction to that
was completely disproportionate and inappropriate
because within the letter of the law,
not just like within the letter of the law,
like there were some pretty clear
and obvious reasons for her to be detained.
And she clearly knew it because otherwise,
why would she have gone through Vancouver
for her connecting flight?
Any who, ever since then, like it's been,
I don't know.
I don't know if I've ever said anything
particularly defending China.
I don't think so.
Anyway, people will interpret whatever they want,
and there's nothing I can really do about that.
So then why don't we move on?
Oh, good.
Our next topic.
What a mess.
Apple removes the Hong Kong protest app.
Maybe we shouldn't talk about that.
Well, we promised we were gonna talk about it.
So here we are.
Just a day after Chinese state media criticized Apple
for allowing HK map in its app store
and a week after Apple flip-flopped on its initial decision
to delist the app, the crowdsource map app has been removed.
Again, sparking concerns that Apple is pandering
to China's political regime.
The app shares information on the location
of pro-democracy protests and police activity in Hong Kong.
Opponents of the app say that it enables rioters
to commit violent acts, while supporters of the app
say it helps people avoid police brutality.
HK maps creators say there's no evidence
that the app has been used to target police
or threaten public safety.
They added that apps such as Waze,
which use crowdsourced information to help users
find where police are hanging around.
And are also still permitted on the app store.
In an internal letter, Tim Cook explained, Tim Cooked,
depends how badly this goes.
Tim Cook.
I didn't expect that, that was pretty good.
Explained Apple's reasons for pulling the app.
It is no secret that technology can be used
for good or for ill.
This case is no different.
Apple based its decision on credible information
from both Hong Kong police and Apple users in Hong Kong
that the app was used maliciously
to target individual officers for violence
and victimize individuals and property
where no police are present.
This use put the app in violation of Hong Kong law.
Similarly, widespread abuse clearly violates
our app store guidelines, barring personal harm.
Apple made the decision a day
after a Chinese state newspaper wrote a commentary
criticizing the company for approving the app.
In this case, we thoroughly reviewed them
and we believe this decision best protects our users.
HK map is still available on desktop.
Not that it's the same scale.
Yes.
But there was news that came out around
when Pokemon Go first launched.
Because people were using the Pokemon Go stops
as mugging locations.
Yeah.
Because they knew people with phones
and probably battery banks and potentially others.
Hanging around there
and probably not paying too close attention.
Busy chasing Pikachu's.
Mug them or swipe their phone or whatever.
Yeah.
And that was like, that was in the news,
I believe a fair number of times.
Yeah.
So where was the ban for Pokemon Go?
It was used for, they say,
where's their official statement on it?
If it's used to whatever, whatever.
Yeah.
Protects our users, something, something,
barring personal harm.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's just.
So there's a clear double standard here.
Yeah.
It's basically what's going on.
Actually, this is a fair bit more cut and dried
than the Blizzard case, quite honestly.
Because with Blizzard, they can make the argument.
Now, Blizzard did a very poor job.
If their actual intent was to keep political discussion
out of their sporting event,
which, okay, I can at least understand and sympathize with,
they did an extremely poor job
of seeming unbiased about it.
Really bad.
Like the worst.
I can't think of a worse way
that they could have handled it.
But if that was their intent
and they had done something, say for example,
like warning everyone involved,
making sure that the entire community knows,
look, this isn't gonna be tolerated
no matter what side of the fence you stand on.
If you're a pro-China winner
of the next Hearthstone tournament,
don't you dare say anything responding
to what happened here because you will be banned.
If that had been their stance,
I just said, okay, fair enough.
It's your platform.
Those people can talk about whatever they wanna talk about.
Well, they're on some other platform,
Twitter or Twitch or whatever.
No, actually, I don't know.
Does Twitch have any guidelines with respect
to political discussion?
But it's not Blizzard's concern.
It's not Blizzard's concern
because it's someone else's freaking platform.
Here, I don't necessarily agree
with Mr. Cook's terminology here.
Yeah.
Clearly violates our app store guidelines.
Your app store guidelines quite honestly suck.
I'm sure, yeah, that's really, it's way too vague.
I'm sure like Tinder has been used.
You think?
For horrible things.
Of course, obviously.
I'm sure all of the related apps, sorry Tinder,
but you're the most well-known one that I know of.
Similar things, there's plenty of them.
I'm sure they've been used maliciously.
Lots of apps have been used maliciously
to whatever their definition was was terrible.
So they need to be more specific about that
if they wanna try to enforce this.
Oh, our chat wasn't working.
To the scale at which they were enforcing it at least.
Blizzard banned someone who was idolized
and had reach in China.
Others in the tournaments in the USA
had spoken out with no reaction.
Okay, yeah, all right.
I'm just checking to make, the stream health says red,
so I was just refreshing the page to get things working.
I have to take this with me?
Wow, the airport is gonna love this.
Yeah, really.
You should almost attach something random to it.
Yeah, I am going to get extra screening because of this.
You know this, right?
Whatever.
I wasn't the one.
Yeah, yeah, it's fine, I'll take it, I'll take it.
Put it in your carry-on or your check.
Yeah, you know the x-ray of those too, right?
Yeah, I'm totally getting questioned.
It's a camera handle, okay?
It's a camera handle.
Yeah.
So in summary, oh, Google apparently,
and just in case you were hoping
that our other benevolent mobile device overlord
was standing up for freedom of speech,
Google has also removed a pro Hong Kong protester app game
called The Revolution of Our Times from the Play Store
due to a policy that bans capitalizing on sensitive events
such as attempting to make money
from serious ongoing conflicts or tragedies through a game.
Okay, actually, no, that kind of makes sense to me.
Nevermind.
Whereas the one on the App Store is clearly designed
for people to coordinate their efforts
in order to accomplish something.
Yeah, all right.
Well, way to go, Apple.
But hey, at least your headquarters
is 100% renewable energy, right?
In lighter news, let's just jump to the Steam one
because it's just warmer, it's just better.
Things are greater there.
I'm just gonna talk about it because he's reading chat.
Steam to make local multiplayer games work online.
Steam has announced a surprise new feature
coming as soon as October 21st, that's awesome,
Remote Play Together.
This feature will transform any local multiplayer video game
into an online one by having the primary player
stream their game to up to three other friends,
meaning that the other players
won't have to buy a copy to join in.
Okay, can I explain why I was mad about this
when I read the headline?
I was wondering, yeah.
Okay.
I was just letting you read.
I was mad because I interpreted it transforming
any local multiplayer video game into an online one
as a way of adding fresh layers of DRM
to the local multiplayer features of games
that are available on Steam.
My bad, that's not what this is.
This is super cool.
This is basically like Cali, but like 2019 edition.
This stream, we have to be super careful.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The redefining stances over and over again, so.
But don't interpret this as being Pro Valve.
Yes, yes.
Because as far as we can tell, they're kind of butt heads.
And we speak out against them all the time, okay.
This is a cool feature.
I don't know what to do anymore.
Ah!
Why is it?
Go to lttstore.com, drink water.
It's good for you.
Yeah.
We have new water bottle colors.
Don't drink so much that you drown.
That's not what we're saying.
We have white and black and we have golden black.
Woo!
The golden black has the stealth lettering
and the white one has the black lettering.
Yeah.
Okay.
Drinking water's good.
All right, so the host computer basically renders the game
while also shouldering two other burdens.
So it has to stream the game to the other participants
and it has to juggle all the incoming buttons and commands
from the other players.
So this is gonna be a whole new level of host advantage.
Yes, wow.
The feature will support a 1080p video signal
sent to the other players at 60 frames a second
and all players must have at least
a 10 megabit per second connection
for a successful low latency game.
I wonder how many games are gonna stop
including local multiplayer because of this.
If any.
What games include local multiplayer anymore?
Some might.
Yeah, it's a good point.
Like pretty much nothing.
Some random mini games.
So I was firing up the menu in Supreme Commander,
which I was playing the other day.
Yes.
And I was like, oh right, local multiplayer,
because I saw it.
Oh yeah, that.
So fun fact, we're doing part two
of our high refresh rate monitor latency exploration.
Yeah.
I don't know if I've announced this yet.
Featuring Shroud.
Ah, I don't know if, yeah, I don't know.
Woo!
Yeah!
So I'm going down to LA.
So many people named him after that video.
Yeah, I know.
Including myself.
So many people.
We worked with Nvidia.
We made it happen.
Nice, nice.
So it's gonna be pretty freaking cool.
We are dramatically expanding the scope of the, what's up?
The camera.
The what?
The camera.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Your bag.
In my bag.
I'm trying to be.
The grip.
You're going somewhere.
Oh yeah, yeah, right.
That's why I was upset about putting this in my bag.
I'm gonna be traveling.
So.
Like, related?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For that.
There we go.
Sorry.
Oh, I'm doing other stuff down there too.
I just didn't know if you want.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah, that's only a one day shoot.
Okay.
Are you on next week's WAN show?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll be back.
So anyway, anyway, so we're working with Shroud.
It's gonna be freaking awesome.
I forget what the point of any of this was.
What was I talking about?
Local multiplayer.
Supreme Commander.
Supreme Commander made me think of it.
I don't know.
Why am I talking about Shroud?
There's a reason.
Nvidia.
Guys, help me out here.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Games not including local multiplayer
potentially in the future?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
So, one of the tests uses an Overwatch map
that's like a flick shot test.
Okay.
Okay, so you've got 0.45 seconds to hit a target.
What's up?
What?
Just don't talk about the whole thing.
I'm gonna talk about this.
There's a lot of feedback.
So, one of the tests is an Overwatch custom map
that is like a flick shot test.
Okay.
And one of the things that we discovered
is that if you're on a Wi-Fi connection,
it don't work too well.
Ah.
Because you can't just like load up a custom map
like low locally and just play on a custom map.
Like you're still connected through a server.
So, there you go.
I thought that was fascinating.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know the StarCraft community wanted...
Was it StarCraft community?
I think so.
Wanted LAN support for a long time.
Because like at tournaments,
like they'd lose connection
to the Blizzard servers mid-game.
It was like, uh, what do we do now?
Thanks.
Didn't need that.
Do you feel like LAN parties
are ultimately gonna have to become retro game fests?
Because there is...
They sort of already are.
There is literally no point in all being in the same room.
I mean, other than the, you know, the camaraderie.
Hey, you gotcha, you loser.
You know, that kind of stuff.
You know, other than that...
So there's some stuff I think...
In terms of game quality.
Like a game called Squad.
Yeah.
Was a game that I really wanted to play
with a bunch of my friends.
We never ended up doing it.
But a bunch of my friends in the LMG lounge.
Because the communication of stuff
that has to go on in that game
is really fun to do kind of live and in person.
But yeah, most LANs that I'm a part of
turn into slug fests of old games.
Which I'm completely okay with personally.
Yep, I'm down for it.
Hand clock says, yep, LAN for SC2, still non-existent.
Yeah, okay, so it was that.
Yeah, well, I mean the cold hard truth
is it's because it's hard to DRM it.
It's all there is to it.
Because if you can play on a LAN,
then you can get a cracked EXE
of an older patch version of the game
that doesn't have it fixed yet.
And you can LAN it up.
I mean, that's how we used to do it.
No, no, it's only, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Excuse me.
Wow, I, well, this is awkward.
Unlawful good.
Unlawful good.
I don't know that there's really anything good about it.
No, nevermind, let's move on, sponsor time.
Unlawful neutral?
Sure, yeah, let's go with that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
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All right, I wanna talk about the Stadia thing.
Okay, can we do one more topic?
Yes.
Stadia thing?
Okay, I know, we need to go.
Okay, this is great.
This is posted by WKDPaul on the forum.
And if you guys aren't familiar with Stadia,
it's basically, what was that stupid thing
that was the first one that didn't work?
Now I forget.
What was the first one?
The video one?
No, no, before that.
The first gaming stream, game streaming thing.
It was that like, arm-based one.
Yeah.
Dang it.
Cloud gaming.
I don't think anyone cared though.
I know, but I'm trying to cloud gaming first one.
First one?
Shut up, this is nice to me.
Had a rough week.
I just love that.
On live.
You found it actually.
Okay.
Hey, my Google Fu is strong.
I'm impressed.
To be fair, it just came up with Wikipedia.
Google was like, I don't know, take this.
Look, was it the second hit or not?
It was, but that's because of cloud gaming, not first one.
Whatever.
You know what?
Control F first.
Is it in here?
There you go.
Boom, first.
Don't worry about it.
Okay, one didn't help you that much.
So on live.
Basically the idea is that you've got this,
this lightweight inexpensive box,
and then you've got a server somewhere
that actually renders the game
and your commands are sent over the internet.
And then the actual game rendered game frames
are sent over the internet to your,
that box that decodes them.
It's an H.264 or ideally H.265
or something more sophisticated video stream
that goes on your screen.
So you don't actually have to buy a console
or gaming PC in order to have
a high fidelity gaming experience.
And what you give up for that is that
you don't actually own your hardware or your games.
And you have to pay a monthly subscription.
So it's gaming as a service.
In a nutshell, Google Stadia is Google's entrant
into what is becoming rapidly a very crowded field.
And in order to make their platform lower latency,
because the hardcore gamers have said,
look, this can never be as good as local
because laws of physics,
no matter, even if we're communicating
at the speed of light, which we literally are,
if you have fiber optic internet
and it goes all the way to the server over fiber optics,
literally speed of light,
we're still talking like 50 milliseconds,
ideally to a server that's like
not down the street from you.
And that assumes that you're not going unnecessarily
through a bunch of different hops,
which can happen depending on congestion
or outages or DDoS attacks or whatever the case may be.
So this is Google's solution.
I love this.
AI that predicts when you're going to do something,
adding a negative latency offset to your gaming.
Go.
So there's just so many things
that are so derp with this.
Cause the amount of time it's going to happen
where it's going to interpret the wrong thing.
One of the things I hated the most,
the reason why I beat the little girl
on stage in Mario Kart was because-
You're a monster.
You're still a monster.
I didn't know the new Switch version-
How old was she?
Like 10? Very young.
Eight?
I didn't know the new Switch version
had a training wheels feature
where it would like keep you on the course.
I knew it felt weird, but I was like, whatever.
And then, but I, my whole goal, it's a long story,
but my whole goal was I wanted to stop
before the finish line.
And then the training wheels drove me over the finish line.
I was trying to like force my car into the wall
and say, leave me alone.
I didn't want to.
But like, that feature sucks.
And I know it's not the exact same thing,
but in this one, like,
is it going to learn that I'm not very good
at shooting people in the head?
And when I try to shoot them in the head,
is it going to make me shoot them in the chest?
Like, what?
If I go and I'm like, you know what?
This time I'm going to do it.
I'm going to aim and make sure I actually aim properly.
This time I'm going to aim.
And I go and I sweep up on my mouse pad,
going for his head and Stadia is like, nah, nope.
I'm going to keep your cursor here.
This is a great quote.
Ultimately, we think that in a year or two,
we'll have games that are running faster
and feel more responsive in the cloud than they do locally,
regardless of how powerful the local machine is.
So basically it's like a buffer of predicted latency
inherent to Stadia player setup or connection
in which the Stadia system will run leg mitigation.
Like, could they maybe do computation
for like a huge variety of possible outcomes
so that they're ready if you do them?
But it wouldn't know which ones, oh, I guess it could.
Okay, that would be pretty good.
So maybe it's not just one.
Cause if it sent you like, okay, now hold on.
This would be like a new codec even.
This would be nuts.
What if it sent you like 10 or 20 or 50 different outcomes?
And then like, assuming that your shot was either on target
or like slightly anywhere around it,
if it could then like shift certain elements of the image,
use AI to fill in the gaps.
Okay, maybe it's cool.
Is it that?
Well, no, I don't.
They didn't say that.
Not yet.
Yeah, I don't know.
The first interpretation that I have had of it, I hate it.
If they try to like give you like a Schrodinger's cat
of potential future gaming solutions,
that could be pretty interesting.
All right.
Did he kill or did he not kill?
Well, both options are true until proven false.
So I don't have, I don't desire to continue streaming today.
No, I think we're not.
So far today I've been pro genocide, pro China,
pro fascism.
Yeah, so all I can say is, you know what?
You do you buddy.
Thanks for watching guys.
See you again next week.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
Bye.
Oh crap.
Super chats.
I should probably do some super chats.
Okay.
Okay.
32 bites says your stream was down for eight minutes.
What happened?
We actually have no idea.
That'll be some post-mortem diagnosis.
You know what?
Fine.
Albie says, where do y'all stand on pro China free Hong Kong?
We stand pre Hong Kong, free Hong Kong.
We noted that at the beginning of the stream.
Yeah, we did.
We did that happen.
Not this stream.
The other one.
That's true.
This is kind of the part two stream.
That's true.
Honta says, no one wants you to be political, just ethical.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
But somehow that has become political.
Hasn't it?
It's kind of amazing.
And that was where the whole lawful evil discussion came in.
That was again on part one.
We really tried to cover a basis.
It just didn't work.
Gap 2 Franny says I ordered the LTT edition Noctua heatsink.
One of the decals will go on the two and a half inch
quad box that you signed at LTX 2019, which I appreciate.
Gold looks great on blue.
Oh, I'm so glad.
Oh my goodness.
Wow.
Yeah.
This is just all about this class 413.
It's not fair to a company that you're a face for
to espouse controversial topics
that could cost people their livelihoods.
I'm actually not sure what your position is here.
And you know what?
I'm okay with that.
No, I think he's specifically talking about
when you were talking about people's Twitters
at the company.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Sure.
Blink your eyes 1400.
I'm putting together a gaming PC.
Wanna know what is the best wifi card for it?
Ethernet connection.
Yeah, and if not that, then power line.
Power line is better than wifi.
So if you must have wifi,
then it really is more to do with like how close
you can get the antennas together
and less to do with like how great your wifi card is.
2225 Perfect says reason and balanced commentary
will never appease the zealots.
I'm pro Hong Kong.
I get what you're saying.
And I'm sure many others do too.
But the squeakiest wheel gets the grease, so to speak.
Thank you.
That was actually really nice to hear.
Someone gets it.
Alexis says, Alexis sends $5.
Longtime listener, first time chatter, love the podcast.
Here's $2 and 75 cents of my money.
Alexis gets it.
Ilya says, have you seen Derbauer's video series
where he examines 9900K under the electron microscope
to a single transistor visible?
No, I haven't.
Sounds cool.
Drunken's Weird says it's gonna be the best BlizzCon ever.
I'm going.
Are you really?
I've had a ticket for like a really long time.
It's gonna be really weird.
I've been planning so far.
I'll tell you what I've been planning so far.
Do you know RedShirt Guy?
Do you know the history of RedShirt Guy?
There is always somebody goes up to the mic at BlizzCon
and it was the same guy for a long time.
And then around Diablo Immortals, it was a new guy.
He just also happened to be wearing a red shirt.
But they just say things that just dunk Blizzard every time.
So I am packing specifically only red shirts
just as like a joke.
And I was already planning on doing that.
And now I'm just like, oh, it's gonna be crazy.
I'm gonna go anyways.
But like do we start like the Red Sea movement here?
And just get everyone at BlizzCon to wear red shirts?
Sea of red.
Oh my God.
I don't think we have the clout to do it.
No, we could try.
It would be amazing.
I mean, our audience might.
There's 10,000 people watching right now.
Like if every one of you tells 10 people,
that would be a hundred thousand people
who are at least aware of this,
of the idea of showing up at BlizzCon wearing a red shirt.
Do it.
It would be hilarious.
If you show up to BlizzCon and you see me
and you're not wearing a red shirt, no selfie.
Or if you come up to me and you see me
and you're not wearing a red shirt and you're like,
I can't afford to buy red shirts, that's fine.
If you're gonna threaten that,
you have to hold true to it.
Okay, but what do we do for the people that are like-
You carry one extra red shirt in like quadruple XL.
I'll cover it.
And just put it on them and take it off
when they've done the selfie?
Expense it to Linus Media Group or something.
I will pay for a 4XL red shirt.
I expect to see zero selfies with Luke from BlizzCon
if they are not adorned in red.
Because they might be someone who takes it far away.
But no like-
You chase them down, you take their phone.
Yeah.
All right, red shirts, BlizzCon, do it up.
Jack death.
Exactly how much damage does the depth of discharge
do to a phone battery compared to the height of charge?
The video you made wasn't clear.
They're both bad.
Depth of discharge is gonna instantly kill it
if you go too deep.
But most phones should prevent you from doing that.
Whereas height of charge is more like a slow burn.
Legolad, play well.
It's notable that an American team did a very similar thing
as Blitzchung soon after and faced no repercussions at all.
No.
Are you talking about the NBA?
Because that's been a huge controversy.
I forget which team it was.
I don't follow NBA.
I think he's talking about Hearthstone,
but I know nothing about this.
Oh, an American Hearthstone team
faced no repercussions at all.
Yeah, that doesn't sound that surprising to me.
This is what I said early on.
I don't know everything about the story.
Once again, Blizzard handled it wrong.
Very, very bad.
D minus minus.
Jason says, another major issue is how Tencent
is involved in all the major gaming companies.
Yeah. So many.
So Tim's meeting came out and said,
well, as long as I'm in charge, Epic Games, blah, blah.
Yeah, how long are you gonna be in charge, Tim?
Like how many more hundreds of millions of dollars
do you need?
Are you really gonna stick around that much longer?
Also, furthermore, who wasn't?
Riot Games has made some pretty negative headlines
over this as well.
Unfortunately, I haven't looked into
what they've said so far,
so I can't really comment on it yet.
Made a statement saying that their broadcasters
and their people are not to...
They've actually said what you guys said
Blizzard should have said.
Oh, okay, nevermind.
Okay, they basically said,
look, no political stuff in our broadcasts.
Yeah, but they've said it ahead of time.
Okay. Yeah.
There was also some issue,
one of the teams in that tournament
is called Hong Kong Attitude,
and casters were shortening it to HKA,
so they thought that was a directive from Riot,
but apparently it was not.
Right.
To be fair, that's just a really long name
to say a billion times during a cast,
so I wouldn't be too surprised.
A Reagan says,
is Floatplane okay, had a minor heart attack
when the stream went down?
We'll figure it out.
Floatplane overall is fine, but the streaming is working.
The videos we're streaming,
people are still watching, yeah.
Zambensky, where are all your clothes made?
China.
Actually, where was this?
This.
Honduras.
Honduras.
And printed in Canada.
In Canada, by the way.
But, bam!
Luke, what's your go-to from Tim Hortons, asks Jonah.
Hot chocolate.
Tim Hortons kind of sucks.
Tim Hortons sucks ass now.
If I do go there, it's a chili.
Yeah, it's the only edible thing left on the menu,
and the bun sucks now.
And chocolate.
Yes, it does.
And you take all the bread out of the bun,
and you kind of squish it together,
and use that as a spoon,
and then you use the hollowed out shell of the bun
as a spoon.
And that's how you eat it.
The old bun was like this delightfully chewy bun,
and then they went and they put this hard crust.
So dry.
Dry garbage bun.
And the chili's worse now, I think.
I don't want this, look, look.
I don't want this to come across anti-America,
or pro-fascism, or whatever.
But ever since Tim Hortons got bought, they suck.
Downhill.
They used to make the donuts fresh in store.
Tim Hortons' donuts are inedible now.
They're disgusting.
They used to be good.
But yeah, so it'd be chili and a chocolate milk.
If I have to eat it, Tim Hortons, I get the chili too.
They're not owned by an American company, by the way.
I thought they were owned by an American company.
That's not a company.
They're owned by like a Brazilian investment.
Oh, Brazilian investment.
Well, I don't want this to come across anti-Brazilian either.
Whoever, whoever.
Whoever's mad.
It just sucks now.
It sucks now.
It's been terrible ever since they got bought out.
Good input, Nick.
Thanks, Nick.
Glad you helped me out.
Someone would have screamed at us for that.
Let's piss off the right people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's get the right information.
Exactly.
Perfect.
Oh man.
Oh my goodness.
Ever since we started reading Super Chats,
people have been hitting it pretty hard.
You can't.
We gotta go.
Bye guys.
Bye.
Thanks for watching.
Yeah.
We'll see you next time.
We'll see you next time.