What is up everyone, and welcome to the WAN Show.
We have a great topic lined up for you guys today.
Luke and I both got some, I think quality is a strong word, but we got some time in
with Starfield already, so we're going to be talking about that a little bit.
Yeah, the quality was a little low for me, so we'll be talking about that.
We've also got, oh right, I guess we should acknowledge the weird thumbnail, Intel's quality
in Starfield is a little questionable, so we'll be talking about that.
In other news, iFixit has brought the fight for right to repair to McDonald's, tearing
down one of their infamous ice cream machines, so we'll be talking about that.
What else we got today?
The Legion Go handheld has been announced, and it looks potentially quite interesting.
Also games right now are crazy.
That's just going to be a general topic that we have, Starfield Sea of Stars, suspiciously
similar names.
So we've got fields and seas.
So next is going to be Air Star.
Don't forget about the Citizen of Star, oh we got that one already.
Desert of Stars, Tundra of Stars.
Okay there's a lot of biomes, chill.
Star chill.
Forest of Stars.
We're really good at naming games.
What else we got?
No, I did two.
Good.
I actually thought of two this time.
Citizens of Stars.
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Why don't we jump right into the big topic.
Who in the game-o-sphere is not amped about Starfield right now?
Who in the game-o-sphere is not amped right now?
Who is even watching the WAN show right now?
Instead of playing Starfield.
I got some comments of people saying, hey just checking in, but I can't really keep
watching because there's too much dialogue in Starfield.
See you later.
Can you explain something to me?
How is it that you already have like six hours logged?
I have personally spent like most of your waking hours with you since the game launched.
Can you explain this to me?
I was at your house until like six and then I went home and played until like midnight.
I see.
And then I went to sleep.
And then I saw you this morning.
And we played more Starfield.
And we played more Starfield.
Okay, cool.
Why don't we run through what's in our notes here and then we'll talk a little bit about
Luke's experience and also my experience.
I got stuck in a ship already.
That was actually cool.
That took me way longer in Star Citizen.
Yes.
Bethesda Starfield is available through early access and is set to come out more generally
on Wednesday, September the 6th.
Reviews are already out and are generally positive, though some community discourse
has been centered around comparisons to No Man's Sky, Star Citizen, as well as other
Bethesda games and hasn't been especially positive.
One particular pain point was the fact that players cannot walk the circumference of Starfield's
1,000 planets.
How dare they?
I mean, you can land anywhere on a planet, but outside of pre-established sites like
cities, the game mixes procedurally generated and handcrafted elements to create a limited
area that you can explore on foot, which by some reports is actually bigger than the
entire map of Fallout 4.
So this complaint...
I don't care about this literally at all.
If you want to spend actually hours walking in a particular direction finding nothing,
like okay.
I think if there's anything that gamers have proven over the years, it's that they will.
Someone's going to want to do that.
They do want to.
But there's very likely, in my opinion, going to be some mod that allows you to do it anyways.
Also, you could walk up to a certain point and then just get in your ship and move it
and then just keep walking if you wanted.
You could circumnavigate a planet by just moving your ship a bunch of times.
A slightly more legitimate criticism concerns the in-game map, particularly in cities, and
I have a link here.
It apparently looks like this.
Oh, that is very unfortunate.
I will fully admit, the map totally is terrible.
I will also, however, say that this is the planetside map.
When you're in the space view, solar system view, etc., that's all good.
The planetside terrestrial map is kind of trash.
I think someone's probably going to change this at some point, but I don't know.
I didn't really use it, so I didn't really care.
It's one of those things, though, that is just kind of confusing to me.
Why is it so bad?
Because the Skyrim map was fantastic.
Morrowind came out in 2002.
I would guess.
You've played Morrowind.
I have only dropped into it once, and I didn't last very long because I tried to play it
after playing Oblivion.
That's not going to happen.
Yeah, anyway.
I would guess that the map was actually better than this.
We saw a lot of stuff like that when we were tinkering around with it this morning.
How is it that you can have been making games where you explore and use maps for 20 years
and then release a map like that?
It had to be intentional.
Yeah.
I will say, when I landed in whatever the main city is called.
What is it called again?
Dan?
Dan's trying.
New Atlantis?
New Atlantis.
When I landed in New Atlantis, which is like the big primary main city, I was unsure of
where to go to find a place that I could sell my firearms to because I was carrying too
many firearms and wanted to sell them.
What a problem.
So I didn't open my map.
I don't know why.
I can tell you weren't in America.
The store is in the residential district, and I made a joke about how it feels like it's
America.
Sorry.
Anyways, there was an info kiosk.
I didn't open my map.
There was an info kiosk, and I was like, oh, I wonder if this works, and I open it, and
it tells me what thing it's in, like what area it's in.
I just went to the tram thing, and the tram said I could go there.
So I went there, and then I just found it myself, and it felt very intuitive.
It felt intuitive to the point where I didn't even really think of opening the map.
I was just like, oh, I'm just going to do it this way.
So yes, the map is bad, and it should be better, and I hope modders make it better, but I will
say that they've done other things in the game that are cool to the point where you
don't really need to use it that much.
You can also fast travel not using the map.
You have this thing called a scanner, and you can bring it up, and it'll show you points
of interest, and you can fast travel to those points of interest on foot and in your ship.
A lot of people complain about needing to open up, including myself, about needing to
open up the map to fast travel when you're in your ship because it feels very non-immersive,
but I learned today, I haven't been able to put it into action yet, but I learned today
that you don't actually have to do that.
You turn on your scanner, and then you can warp there.
Riley's calling Bethesda simp.
That's true, but I think I'm being fairly unbalanced here.
I'm saying the map is trash.
What I'm also saying is that there's ways around it.
You don't really need the map anyway.
It's true.
The map is trash, though.
You are kind of-
The Skyrim map was sick.
You are kind of sounding like an apologist right now.
For what?
I said it's trash.
Where's the city map?
Where's the city map?
It's bad!
Where's the city map?
I never said it's good!
Why do you like it so much?
The iPhone reception is bad, but if you just held it differently, then you wouldn't be
apolo-
You're using it wrong.
He doesn't like it, but he has nothing.
Nothing.
It's because it's fair.
All right.
I'm just saying, if you are playing, there are ways that you can avoid it because it
is so bad that you should probably not use it, because it's actually like- I thought
it was a bug.
Someone first sent me that the map was this bad, and I was like, yeah, there's no way.
That's got to just be like, it's not loaded in properly, or something's just wrong.
I don't really believe it.
And then I saw it in the game myself, and I was like, holy crap.
They're not kidding.
Again, the solar system map is fantastic.
So I don't know.
I don't know why it's so bad.
Overall, the game seems to be running on Nvidia and AMD graphics cards, outside of some minor
issues.
The notes here say Linus can probably speak to this, having filmed a video today.
Yeah, we both can.
We were both there.
We'll talk about this in a bit.
According to Reddit, on Intel Arc GPUs, most of the time the game doesn't even launch,
and this is a great video from Hugh Splatt.
I'm not going to show you the whole thing, because fair use, right?
I don't want you guys to watch the whole thing.
I want you to go check out the video.
It has 368 views, but it's amazing.
Arc A770 No Worky.
Check this out.
It apparently looks like that when it does manage to launch.
I'm going to drop the link in the chat, so you guys can go check that out.
It's only about a 30-second clip, so it's not going to take you very long.
Oh, right, the YouTube chat as well.
I forgot about YouTube chat.
Sorry, YouTube chat.
I remember you.
I was trying to think of what you would say to your forgotten child, so that they're not
forgotten.
I was getting milk.
Yeah, and cigarettes from the corner store.
Intel has acknowledged the issue on Twitter, says that they are working to improve the
experience for the game's general release next week, and meanwhile, AMD released their
Starfield optimized driver on October 31st, while NVIDIA released their driver a week
earlier on August 22nd.
Did I say October?
Did I say October?
It doesn't matter.
I'll give us a little spoiler alert here, too, because I've been retesting the 7800XTX
for the AMD video, because I'm trying to get more recent testing.
I launched the game, and it crashed pretty quickly, and I was like, oh no, and then realized
that I didn't have the day one driver.
Got the day one driver, perfect after that.
Zero performance issues, zero crashes, no problems, so it was a very good experience.
It's on me for not updating, so not their problem.
Now, we tried three different configurations today, aside from Luke's at-home config with
the 7900XT.
We tried a 5700, so Radeon 5700, which happens to be the minimum spec that Bethesda advertises
as what can have, I guess, a suitably adequate experience running the game.
You can play the game this way.
I've never really understood what minimum spec means.
Because you can always launch it with slightly more minimum than what the minimum spec is.
Yeah.
Anyway, so we tried that.
We tried their recommended spec, which is an RTX 2080 non-super, if I recall correctly.
And then we also got just a balling out, absolutely everything, top of the line config.
And I think, man, I don't want to say too much, because it's a good video.
It's worth watching.
We encountered a ton of sort of interesting behavior, both in terms of graphical anomalies
or things that we can discuss, and in terms of just general game behavior.
There's an interesting discussion in it about the current state of PC graphics options.
We're in an interesting spot, because there's a lot of graphics options settings, which
when enabled, enable a bunch of automated stuff.
Yeah.
And it's like...
It's a black box.
I don't really know what's happening.
Exactly.
You might get...
Okay, let's put it this way.
The minimum config and the recommended config just out of the box ran at almost the same
FPS.
However, it was very noticeable to the eye that one of them looked better than the other,
but we had no way of knowing exactly what settings in the background...
To be clear, when he's talking minimum recommended config, he means the hardware config.
The settings are the same on both in this scenario.
No, not necessarily.
So we did that.
We did the same settings on both.
And it was graphically better on the higher end one with very similar frame rates.
Yes.
Interesting.
So the reason for that is there's so much automatic fidelity tuning going on in the
game...
If you turn on certain settings.
And those are settings that are enabled by default.
And you probably should turn on.
That you can't tell exactly what you're running at.
Like it doesn't have a dropdown for texture quality.
What?
Yeah.
When's the last time...
I mean, I shouldn't even ask this because there's a lot of console ports that are...
There's going to be an example right away.
There's going to be an example right away, but my point is when's the last time that
we should have seen a PC game that doesn't have a texture quality slider.
Yeah.
It's weird.
How is that even remotely acceptable?
There's already modders fixing some of that stuff.
Like there's modders in Starfield that have added FOV control.
Because did you notice there isn't an FOV slider option?
I didn't even notice that.
Interesting to have a first person game with no FOV slider.
Least of my concerns, sir.
And I saw the fact that there's no texture slider.
I don't even think we should talk about the other one.
What?
Draw distance?
No.
There's no draw distance slider!
The one thing that you can't change that we were enraged about.
I feel like that should be a tidbit for the video.
No, no.
Let's talk about...
There's so much in the video.
Okay.
You can't set a non-native resolution.
So if you have a 4K monitor...
This is a very hard to run game.
If you have a 4K monitor and you're like, I'd run this game in 1440p or 1080, you have
to do like resolution percentage, whatever it's called scaling, scaling resolution scaling.
But when you do that, the other settings are going to interact differently.
So like we actually got a very different experience instead of doing a resolution scaling by changing
our monitors resolution, setting it to native, cranking resolution, scaling to a hundred
percent, and then interacting with other options, it was actually notably different.
Hold on.
I should clarify that a little bit.
So by setting it to a non-native desktop resolution.
So we've got a 4K TV.
If we run it at 4K, but then set the resolution scaling to 50%, which is the minimum, that's
as low as the slider in game goes.
Remember, we don't have any mods installed.
We were experiencing it as a gamer would experience it.
We're not running into, you know, config files or anything like that and manually typing
in values.
We're just using it as it's meant to be used.
So 50% is the lowest you can go, meaning that you are rendering at 1080p and then, but like
FSR is enabled, so maybe like you actually have no idea what resolution, like what pixel
count your GPU is trying to push.
What Luke was saying was we tried changing the desktop resolution to 1080p.
So that's not the native resolution of the panel.
Now we go into the game and all of a sudden we can turn it down to 50% again, which would
be 540p, except that depending on what desktop resolution you're running, except that no
matter what desktop resolution you're running at, when you just go to low, medium, and high,
it just moves that slider to, what was it, like 62%, 50%, or 75%.
It actually, even on ultra, never goes to 100%.
We didn't even mention that in the video, but that blew my mind.
I think we pointed it out.
I don't know if it was a major beat, but we put it down.
Never defaults to 100%.
So what that means is it's setting this overall level of detail the same regardless of what
pixel count your display is running at.
How is that even possible that they overlooked that?
I don't understand it.
It's kind of wild.
You also can't full screen.
So if you're at 1080p for your desktop resolution and you put it at low, it's going to render
at 50% of 1080p with all low details.
If you have a 4K monitor, okay, and you set it to low, you are going to render at 1080p
all low details.
Whoops.
Those are not the same low.
It's weird.
Yeah.
It's honestly really weird.
The whole only working in windowed full screen though and having to use resolution scaling,
I know that's not a new thing.
That's not unique to this game.
The implementation is jank and it's bad and I hate it, but that's a separate thing.
Halo Infinite has the same thing too.
You can't just run an exclusive full screen mode, but the implementation in Starfield
and the way that the presets interact with it is really, really bad because people have
the same hardware.
They're going to set it at the same thing in game and then depending on what monitor
they have, them and their friend might have very, very different gameplay experiences.
That's bad.
Not being able to just set an exact pixel count that you are rendering at and then an
exact target pixel count that you are trying to upscale to means that you just have no
idea what's going on inside the black box of this engine.
Wild man.
Definitely some fun bugs.
I really like the one where dead guys stand like this.
Oh yeah.
It holsters their weapon, so there is nothing here, so no, no, no.
Their hands are up, but their weapon just goes in their holster and they stand there
and they're lootable, but they just keep doing this, so you're looking around and you keep
getting jump scared by this thing.
I waste a ton of ammo on them.
Every time I come around the corner, I'm like, ah, and I shoot and I'm like, ah, crap.
Yeah, but I mean, that might be a you thing.
You couldn't even recognize friendlies from enemies.
Oh my goodness.
I was roasting him for that and then I did it.
It's a very gray brown.
I have an excuse.
My eyes are bad.
I mean, I know this is true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess so.
He was roasting the game for being very shades of gray and brown, but we were on a moon,
so it's like, I don't know.
Yeah.
I've been on colorful planets.
There are also, uh, and again, this isn't defending, but there's, there's reshade mods
already out.
There's like multiple of them.
Zero point and float plane says I had the opposite.
Some minor was lying down on the floor, but at his eyes open and was talking.
I think that's worse.
Yeah.
That's a lot worse.
Oh boy.
I mean, zombies are normalized enough in games that it's like, I don't mind the living dead,
but the dead living space zombies are worse.
That's uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are we talking about star season?
No, no, no.
We're not.
No, but in a weird way, this made me appreciate star season a little bit more.
Really?
That is for a game that you just spent probably a solid, I don't know, 75% of the pre-show
and like half of this show being positive about that is a really moving thing to say.
We haven't, we haven't had the opportunities.
I have a lot of negative things I can say about starfield.
I've talked to you, but I hate the crouching and you pointed out that like, maybe it's
a little more realistic.
I don't care.
It feels like junk.
Okay.
It feels very bad to me.
Yeah.
It's not very like quakey, you know?
Like it's not like press control and they're just like, I am faster than gravity.
You know?
Like it's, it's not, it's not like that.
Like it's a, it's like press, you know, like it takes them.
A split second to get down, but here's the, here's my problem for you.
I actually eight minutes to get to prone.
It actually feels more responsive in Tarkov.
One of the things in Tarkov that I would say is it initiates faster.
And one of my big problems is if I'm in a firefight and I'm like, I'm getting shot at,
I need to be behind this physical cover.
My character is like, Oh, get to it.
Like no dude, get down.
And there's maybe some argument for like crouching when you're, when you're actively moving, taking
longer.
And I think Tarkov does do that now that they have the momentum system in place.
But it just, it feels really, really clunky and I don't, I don't like it.
I a hundred percent think this is just a modern gaming thing and you're going to have to deal
with it.
Here's something that isn't a modern gaming thing is the sheer volume of loading screens
and the places that the loading screens even happen in.
Like there was, there was a, the, the, the firearm store, like I mentioned earlier, it's
a very, very small shop with one shopkeeper.
You have to loading screen in a loading screen out.
It loads this enormous city around it.
Just let me open the door.
Don't put a loading screen.
What are we doing?
Yeah.
I mean, why do you have to loading screen into your ship?
The inside of the ship is tiny.
Remember when we all watched that PlayStation 5 showcase where they, where they talked about,
you know, new generation, you're streaming data off of high speed SSDs and all that stuff.
I know that that's a Sony thing and architecturally they are probably ahead of what Microsoft
is doing on the Xbox right now.
But the sheer speed of the SSDs is different, but not so different that I would imagine
that what you're talking about should be a problem.
As you get close to something, I don't, I don't actually understand why it couldn't
start to start to grab those assets.
And some people are backing me up.
Night pause in full plane chat said crouch and flashlight.
I noticed this too.
Both make me feel like your character has severe arthritis.
There's already mods that reduce the input latency when you go to carry objects in game.
So if you go to like, I'm picking this up and I want to move it and put it somewhere
else.
There are already mods that reduce the input latency on that because it's like super high
for like no real reason.
There's a bunch of weird sluggish controls where you go to do something, you press the
button, there's a noticeable amount of time that goes by for like no reason.
And then it starts to happen.
And it's just like, ah, just, it doesn't make it more immersive for me.
It doesn't make it better.
I hate it.
I wonder if part of it, I'm excited for mods to solve that.
I wonder if part of it is that people are generally used to running games at really
high frame rates and starfield does not like both of the recommended systems.
They were clearly with the, with the recommended settings on these recommended configs clearly
targeting 30 frames per second, like, like 28 to 26 to 28, 1% lows, 30 to 33 average
kind of thing.
And I do wonder if a lot of PC gamers in particular are playing this 30 FPS game and kind of going,
man, it feels like there's an extra like 17 milliseconds on top of everything I'm trying
to do.
That doesn't explain your issue with the crouch or the flashlight and I think that that's
probably part of it, but I do wonder if these things are compounding a little bit and making
it feel more worser than it actually is because we talked about this a little bit when we
were, when we were at the shoot, it's not, it's not part of the video, but we were talking
about how this year it feels like there's been huge game after huge game and it's just
like kind of happening.
And we had some different theories.
I think one of the theories was, I said COVID games, COVID era games yet.
And then one of the other theories was, you know, maybe this is just what the development
cycle looks like for a new generation console now.
Like that's a good one.
I think people have talked a lot about how the Xbox has lost this generation.
The PlayStation five ran away with it, whatever else.
What I kind of wonder is if, forget about the hardware, on the software side, Sony just
did a way, way better job of filling up the queue with games that were, if not next gen,
at least post last gen enough that they could make the PlayStation five, give the PlayStation
five hardware enough of a library of next gen content that it just seems like the obvious
winner today.
But if it's not, maybe not over something that I would argue is I don't think it's,
it's, it's the flood coming for the Xbox.
I don't intend it.
I don't know about that.
I think my, my argument is more that I actually, now that I think about it more, I don't think
it's a console generation thing because what I'm noticing is game quality and like a game
that I'm going to, games that I'm going to include personally for this, like, Hey, games
have been amazing lately or like Dave the diver and sea of stars, which have nothing
to do with that's true.
Fantastic next gen hardware.
Um, I, I, I also think like the reasons why I just adore Baldur's gate three, which is
just a stunningly amazing game, have nothing to do with the, the like, like graphically,
I think it's very similar to divinity original sin two, which is the previous game that they
made.
I think it's the same engine.
I think it's a lot of the same stuff.
I don't think that's because of console generation.
Um, starfield for how hard it is to run.
Not a particularly amazing looking game.
Um, let me clarify my console generation point though, because I don't necessarily mean that
those games, it's kind of like what I was saying with the PlayStation thing.
I don't necessarily mean that those games are taking full advantage of this console
generation.
What I'm saying is that what I suspect is that the development cycle for these games
couldn't start until the development kits hit for this generation of consoles.
And we're at the point now where, what was the budget for starfield?
I think I saw people throwing around the $600 million number like earlier in the chat.
That is, that is the only citation I have for that, but I guarantee you it was many,
many millions of dollars.
Final estimate, uh, based on some forum post on Neo gaff is 400 million.
Okay.
And, and yeah, so the point is many, many millions of dollars and you were talking about
how even playing the game, there are moments where you can clearly see that they worked
on this asset like three years ago.
It really feels like that.
And in my experience, I've seen like the fidelity and quality of different assets are surprisingly
different across the board.
So that's going to be a number of things that's going to be, you're going to have very different
teams working on things and they could be working on them at very, very different times.
And so we know, okay, yeah, they've obviously been working on this game since around the
time the Xbox series X would have been beginning its life cycle.
And so I do wonder if it's just that the games that are getting the time, whether that goes
into more graphical fidelity or whether it goes into, you know, I'm not going to say
something like a day of the diver probably has anything to do with this, with this sort
of this cycle here.
But I do think that it's probably, you know what, it's probably a combination of a lot
of factors.
It's probably partly the generational cycle.
It's probably partly just the like, you know, COVID returned to productivity boom, you know,
projects kind of got stalled for a little bit and maybe we're seeing like, and you know,
maybe it was even just, you know, oh, everything got kind of disrupted and we had some kind
of cool ideas.
Oh, I'm not talking about it being disrupted.
I mean, like, like there's, there's certain, especially online continuous service games.
We saw quality increases from COVID era like, like in, in during COVID era, because these
are games that have to roll out constant content, like constantly.
I think some of the work from home stuff that happened in the gaming industry was like super
beneficial.
I'm sure it was also super negative for certain companies that like didn't manage it well
or whatever.
I'm not, I'm not saying across the board.
It's good to be very clear.
Yeah.
There's a, there are some examples where it's worked really well.
If you are 100% for work from home or you are 100% against work from home, you're wrong.
I think there's flaws with those.
Yeah.
There's, it's, the world is almost never black and white.
And it's a, it can be, it can be really, really good and it can also be really, really bad.
Here's, here's another, I'm jumping off this topic.
Here's another criticism that I would have for starfield.
Yeah.
One of my favorite things about eve online, when did eve online come out?
Did eve online come out?
May 6th, 2003, a space game made in may 6th, 2003, in my strong opinion, has drastically
better travel mechanics than starfield.
When you jump, they've been working on that game since 2003.
No, when it launched.
Okay.
All right.
When you jump, if you're jumping to a gate in eve, your, your ship aligns, this part
isn't that important, but it aligns, it points at the things it needs to jump to.
And then it like kind of starts jumping.
And then depending on how far away the thing is, you have to sit in warp and you actually
physically move to from location to location, right?
In starfield, it's just an animation and then you're done.
That doesn't translate a sense of distance or effort or time or anything like that.
And I understand there's different explanations in, in, in eve, you're going up to a extremely
high speed and then traveling the whole way in this one, they maybe I haven't read all
the lore yet.
Maybe they're doing like a, oh, we're folding space or something like that.
So there is no actual time aspect.
Also in eve, when you're in that warp, you can actually get pulled out of it midway through.
Yeah.
Some of the more advanced stuff, you want to be going to a special midway points through
a solar system instead of gate to gate because people hide in that traditional warp highway
and they can pull you out right in the middle.
Yeah.
They can put a bubble that disrupts warp along the way.
But again, this mechanic might work differently.
It might be folding space or whatever.
But if it does that, I feel like they should translate it in a different way.
Just making it an animation, a loading screen effectively feels...
It's immersion breaking.
By the way, I think float plane chat is trying to interpret things that we say as uncharitably
as possible now.
Oh boy.
COVID was the best thing to happen to gaming ever.
Luke LaFrendure in a 2023 oh nine Oh one.
No.
There's some games where I think it benefited the game.
Oh, there it is.
There it is.
You guys, you heard it again.
That's all I'm saying is there's some games I think it benefited the game.
I also have a weird theory that it has to do with like if the, if the development studio
for this game was in a city where people have to commute for 2023, the blood sacrifice
was worth it so that I could get better games.
Oh God, no, I'm not saying that.
If people had to commute for very, very long periods of time to get into like a very densely
populated city to get to their office.
So now they're not burning three hours a day, four hours a day.
I know someone who worked at a game development studio that had to commute over an hour to
get in and out both directions.
So they're commuting for more than two hours a day.
If you take that out of their day, they might have more creative energy.
Can we talk about how I, this is just something that I've never understood.
I know you and I, I think you and I have probably talked about this at the, at the earliest
point, like as much as probably like 13, 14 years ago.
I think I was ranting about hockey games and I was trying to figure out, we've had, we've
had rant conversations about hockey games for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a given, right?
I was trying to figure out why they keep trying to pack stadiums and like major venues into
downtown Vancouver, which if you look at a map, the downtown area of Vancouver is almost
an island.
It's not an island.
It's more of like a peninsula, but it's this tiny, tiny little space with very few points
of ingress.
And so anytime there's any kind of event, I'm glad Taylor Swift isn't coming.
Oh boy.
Now I've gotten myself into real trouble.
COVID was good for gaming.
I hate Taylor Swift.
Yeah.
And we're done.
See you later.
Good night everyone.
Oh boy.
Because every time a major event takes place in Vancouver, it's impossible to get in or
out for a solid like six hours.
And so I remember talking to you, I was like, why are we doing this?
Why don't we just put the arena in a suburb where they can just have a giant parking lot
where it doesn't cost $40 to park or whatever else.
And it doesn't matter.
And it also happens to be just as long of a transit, like it's just as connected to
transit as the downtown core.
But we keep doing this.
And I remember when we first started LMG, I got some advice from someone whose advice
I respect a lot in general, but in this case, I think they were just completely wrong where
they basically said, yeah, you know, if you're going to be taken seriously, you need to have
an office downtown, like a studio downtown.
I'm like, why?
That doesn't make any sense.
We upload videos to the internet.
I could have a studio in a barn.
And as long as it was decorated kind of nicely, you guys might even like it better.
Look at the way people talk about missing the kitchen.
Is it Mr. P stuff like far away from downtown centers?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
No one judges that.
Mind you, there are challenges.
Like there's a lot of people who just simply do not want to live outside of a city.
And there's also people that don't want to live in a city.
So like, yeah, so it's, it's always going to be a, it's always going to be a blade that
cuts both ways, right?
I prefer to not live in a city personally.
Yeah, but you are, um, how do I put this, um, pragmatic to a fault.
If it costs the same, I don't think I would want to live in a city.
I'll, I'll word it that way.
It doesn't cost the same.
It costs more to live in the city.
No, but what I'm saying is like, come on, he's just trying to bother me.
It's basically all I've done since the pre-show started.
It's been kind of, it's been kind of a long week.
I was supposed to be off, I was actually supposed to be off last week too, but I was supposed
to be, I was supposed to be off this week and I managed to get 1.25 days off.
And the days that I did work, which was most of them, were incredibly intense.
We've got a lot of new stuff going on.
We've got a lot of, uh, we've got a lot of pressure from the community rightly to make
sure that, you know, everything is, everything's polished, everything's, you know, awesome.
And so there's just been, there's been a lot, there's been a lot going on and it's been
an incredibly challenging day.
So I'm bothering Luke.
So uh, uh, Natano in Floatplane Chat said, uh, you also assume you'll have good transit
having everyone heading in the same way when event ends is just as bad.
Hold on, hold on.
I have such a good answer to this.
His point about Vancouver is that everyone has to head in the same way.
If it's out in the suburbs, it's more centralized and there's multiple directions people could
head in.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's the entire point.
Instead of the arc of possible directions being like this V between my fingers, it's
a whole circle.
Yeah.
And I, you know what I honestly think it is, I think a big part of it is that, and I'm,
I'm going to be generalizing right now based on my own anecdotal experiences, so don't
take it personally.
But it tends to my, my experience is that suburb people tend to be a lot more willing
to travel for things than city people do because they're just kind of used to it.
It's kind of like the same way that, um, Canadians, Canadians are more accustomed to shopping
in in us dollars than Americans are to trying to convert their currency to anything like
you have conversations with Americans and you're like, yeah, well, you know, why don't
we just travel there?
And they're like, I don't have a passport.
And you're like, why don't you have a passport?
Like pretty much.
Pretty much.
Every Canadian I know has a passport.
It's a given.
Whereas in America, it seems like it's kind of normal to just not have a passport.
What would I need a passport for?
Yeah.
But also every Canadian you know is within like half an hour of the border.
That's true.
That's true.
If you look at the percentage of the Canadian population that lives within, I think it's
two hours of the border or something.
It's like 90%.
Yeah, this is true.
Uh, but like, so, so it's all, it's all kind of what's normal to you, right?
So I tend to find that suburb people are willing to cross bridges and cross boundaries and
city people have a much lower willingness.
Like their lifestyle just isn't, doesn't account for that.
Um, see, I grew up where I think part of it's a city taxes funding.
I think it was about an 18 minute drive to the nearest place where you could get a jug
of milk.
Um, so for me, it's like, yeah, I have to drive half an hour to somewhere.
I was like, yeah, okay.
Pretty normal.
Whereas, um, like, okay, for the badminton center, for example, like a lot of my badminton
buddies are like Richmond, Vancouver dwellers.
And I was like, yeah, well it's about, it's about 30, you know, 33 minutes or something
for you.
And they're like, yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah, fair enough.
I get it.
I get it.
I, so I think part of it is taxes funding.
Uh, I read up a while ago on, on stadiums and how a lot of them like don't even really
make money.
Yeah.
And a lot of it's just like, oh man, if you want to go by the cities, if you want to go
down like a painful, painful like corruption, back alley deal, rabbit hole, just look into
any publicly subsidized stadium deal.
Yeah.
It hurts.
Yeah.
Man, the, uh, the chats are like, I don't, I don't remember the last time I saw them
this active about something that is basically not even what we're talking about anymore.
Talking about passports.
Oh yeah.
Like, yeah, I, I don't, I have no passport gang, like what, why do you have a passport?
It's one of those things that just seems to split people right down the middle.
Everyone I know is super opinionated about it.
The people that I know that have a passport are like, how on earth do you not, how could
you possibly function without a passport for me?
It's your secondary ID.
If you ever lose your wallet, it enables you to travel internationally.
If you really, you know, flip and needed to whatever.
And then everyone that I have ever encountered who doesn't have a passport is like, yeah.
And what do you mean?
What would anyone goes for?
Yeah.
There doesn't appear to be a lot of middle.
The first person I ran into that was like that, I actually like sat down and was like,
okay, I need to have a conversation with you to just like understand because it seemed
so foreign to me.
But I think like if you, if you live, you know, not, I've, I've lived within 30 minutes
or less from a border my entire life.
If that's not your situation, it's probably going to be different.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
What if you're in your thirties and you've literally never had a reason to have one,
why would you keep paying to renew it?
I mean, sure.
Sure.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I use passports to get on domestic flights even because it just feels weird not using
them.
Yeah.
It's like, but you don't have to travel.
Yeah.
You get your passport.
Yeah, exactly.
What do you mean?
I remember someone was with me.
We were going to Toronto for work and they didn't bring their passport and I was like,
we're there.
We're going to let them on the plane.
They're like, no, it's a domestic flight.
We're not changing countries.
And I'm like, but it's a, we're going to go a plane.
It's just, it's routine.
Like when we're driving to the airport, it's like passport checks and everyone like makes
sure they have their passport.
You have to have it when you go to the airport.
Right.
Come on.
Anyways.
Yeah.
Gaming has been insane lately.
I remember they're not stopping.
Gaming has been wild lately.
I I have more criticisms for starfield.
I also believe that 90 plus percent of the issues that I've had are solvable by modding.
Therefore it being a Bethesda game means they will almost certainly be solved by modding,
which is great.
And I feel like I'm getting to the point in Bethesda games now where I'm running into
factions and side quest situations that are getting very interesting.
So I'm, I'm satisfied with the game thus far moving on though.
Games this year have been wild.
And I think it took Baldur's gate three coming out for me to fully accept that we are in
a fantastic era of gaming, like genuinely Baldur's gate three is amazing.
Starfield looks, it's definitely interesting.
We'll leave it there.
Sea of stars.
It's one of the highest rated games I've seen in a long time.
I'm super excited to play, but I'm not going to play until I finished chained echoes, which
I'm very close.
I'm on the final dungeon.
So I'm like ready to, I'm ready to pick up sea of stars.
He's digging chained echoes, which came out.
Dave the diver is super sick.
I don't think it was a year ago, but it was last year.
Elden ring came out and just smashed completely smashed twos of the kingdom.
Absolutely fantastic.
Did I mention armored core already?
No armored core.
Incredibly great.
Yeah.
And you said earlier that you are at the first, you're at a point right now where for the
first time in basically as long as you remember, you have a back cattle, our back queue of
games to play.
All of which are from like this year and all of which are amazing.
I can't keep up, which is like frustrating because like I've been waiting for starfield
for, I don't know, six years or something, but Baldur's gate came out and it's an amazing
game.
You put it down to play starfield.
If you work full time and like have family obligations, I think it's fair to say that
there has not been enough time to completionist and enjoy Baldur's gate and now move on to
starfield.
No.
Like when did Baldur's Gate 2 come out?
It was just like a few weeks ago or something.
Maybe a month.
Things have been a little crazy around here.
At least like armored core is short.
Last than a month.
August 3rd.
And that's a big game.
29 days.
That deserves like replays and deserves thorough playthroughs because like I'm hoping to play
again with them soon.
It's not even out on every platform yet.
Yeah.
Like they're still rolling out.
They're still launching massive, not DLCs, just updates that are adding like content
and fixes to the game.
Like the Larian Studios is a fantastic studio that is treating the game extremely well and
it's amazing.
I don't know what to do.
I don't have enough time.
I can't play all this stuff.
I'm planning on like rotating them a little bit, but that just means I feel like I'm never
going to finish.
But Baldur's Gate 3 deserves the attention, so I don't want to completely put it down
either.
But like there's even like things with Baldur's Gate, there's and there's complaints about
all these games, right?
I'm not saying any of them are perfect.
Like in Baldur's Gate, Ploof brought up something that I think is a really good point.
Where in tabletop RPGs, like if you walk up to a scenario, if you turn around a corner
and there's the one who has a beam from a house on top of them and they're like trying
to get it off of them and you have to strength check to try to help them pick it up.
If this was a tabletop RPG, your strongest character would go do it.
But in Baldur's Gate, it's whatever one got around the corner first and you can't switch.
So if it's like your wizard, he's probably going to fail.
That's kind of unfortunate.
But I don't even care.
The game's so good.
You shall pass away now.
I'm sorry.
Basically.
Yeah.
I'll just spam healing spells on you so you just stay in pain the whole time.
No, it's, it's, it's.
That's more of a cleric thing.
Yeah, it is.
I just thought I'd point that out.
He's right.
That's not really a good thing.
Magic missile but curing.
Bleh.
I'll magic missile the beam and try to miss you.
Curing, curing missile.
Oh, thank you so much!
My ailment was healed, but now I have blunt force trauma.
Yeah, no, Baldur's Gate is incredible.
All these games, there's more that I forgot to mention.
It's just been, it's been a wild ride.
And I think, I think it's good to recognize when we're in these times because when you
look back on it later and you're like, man, games kind of suck right now.
But remember that time?
That was great.
I should have appreciated it more.
Like, no, I appreciate it now.
These games are awesome.
We're in a very, very, very, very strong era of gaming and it's great.
All right, Dan, I think we're ready for whatever the next thing is here.
Topic two, 20 minutes ago.
That was topic two.
Really?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
That was 20 minutes of topic two.
That's fine.
I suspect you're pretty busy with merch messages today.
Yes.
Okay.
Then what are merch messages, Linus?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, right.
I'm supposed to explain merch messages.
You know what?
Just for fun, I have to get logged into the dashboard.
Why doesn't Luke explain merch messages today?
Merch messages are our solution to the problems that we're having with Super Chat.
And to be completely honest, at this point, we just like them more anyways.
You can use merch messages by going to lttstore.com, purchasing an item.
And then when you're in the cart, actually, so this is before you've purchased, you can
select to enter a statement or a question or just send some form of message to us on
the show.
Dan will then see that message.
It might be answered by Dan down here.
If it's not a question or anything, it's very likely it'll just be shown on screen.
Or if it is a question that Dan particularly thinks that Linus or myself, I did that gesturing
with my hands backwards, but it's all good.
If he decides that we should answer it, then he will curate it for us to directly address,
which is cool.
And it costs nothing.
You have to buy something off the store, but the merch message itself is a free add-on.
It's our solution to, we think it's kind of weird that people just throw money at screens.
Yeah, you should get something.
So now you get merch.
I've been asked a lot of times why I don't disable Superchats then.
And my response is, if people really want to throw money at the screen.
Go for it.
Am I going to stop them?
We think this is better.
Yes.
Because at least this way, if we don't acknowledge your money throwing or whatever else, hey,
you still get some high quality merchandise in the mail.
And of course, this week you could be getting some new high quality merchandise.
That's right.
It's finally launched the Stubby Screwdriver.
Have you seen this in person?
You probably have.
I have.
Yep.
Okay.
I don't know.
Let's do the loot cam anyway.
Don't worry, Dan.
You don't have to get up.
Hello.
Luke is going to show off all the different varieties of Stubby Screwdrivers we have.
Actually that's not all four.
So it's available in all black plastic.
So that's the one you've got.
There we go.
Black plastic with the silver shaft.
It's available in all black plastic with the black shaft, which may or may not last that
long.
Wow.
Like that.
You're doing great, Luke.
It's available in all black plastic with the orange and black with the silver shaft and
orange and black with the black shaft.
The black shaft might not stick around forever because it does still have the same issues
with the plating on the full sized one where it's not going to look like that forever.
It's going to patina over time.
Some people like it.
They really like their worn black shafts and they wanted it to be available for the Stubby
so we kind of went, okay, sure, but it's probably not going to stick around forever.
The silver one is a much more durable finish.
I saw a picture of someone who worked in a mechanic's shop of some sort and they had
a very worn LTT screwdriver that was black shaft so it had that like used patina and
then also like clearly used for some heavy applications to some amount of wear on the
rest of it too.
And it actually looked pretty sick, but if you're not into that type of thing, I would
not recommend it.
Hey, do you want us to go a bit storage?
So it has the same pop out bit storage as the full size driver, but instead of 12 bits,
it only takes one row of six bits.
So you've got a Phillips zero, a one and a two.
You've got a couple of different flat heads and then you've got our classic magnetic bit,
which works together with our super strong magnet in the shaft to hold on to basically
anything you want.
So you can like poke in and grab something if you really need.
It has exactly the same.
That's an aluminum water bottle, but good try.
Oh wait, no, is it?
I actually don't remember what our water bottles are made of, but whatever, it's not going
to stick to it.
It uses the exact same well-known ratchet mechanism.
In fact, Project Farm tested it and found that yes, it has super low backforce.
That is a magnet, Luke.
That's cheating.
Oh my goodness.
Don't oversell it.
Do we have something metal?
Me right now.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I don't know.
Is this metal?
Anyway, the point is it's everything you like about the full size driver, but stubbier.
So we've got that on the store now.
We also have, oh, I guess I, oh, I guess the short circuit for this hasn't gone out yet.
So I should probably explain why it's not that much cheaper.
It's not that much cheaper because it costs almost the same amount.
Yeah.
Most of the cost is in the ratchet, which is the same size and it's exactly the same
ratchet.
So all we're saving actually, um, thanks for that, Luke.
All we're saving is this much plastic, six bits, and then this much raw metal material.
Like the actual tooling time for the shaft is not that different.
And then the shooting time for the plastic is identical because you just, you shoot it
into a machine.
Like it's the same.
Um, so there, there's almost no savings on it.
So it's, um, yeah, so it's basically not that much cheaper.
Ah, but we have some other really cool stuff.
Have you seen all the solid color drivers yet?
No, I actually haven't.
Well, I see them right now, but I haven't seen them like up close.
This is all, this is a lot.
Is he going to hand me these?
Cause this is a lot.
These are so cool.
So from the build your own screwdriver booth at LTX, we wanted to make sure that we had
enough of every piece in every color so that nobody would walk away without the exact color
that they wanted.
But we were looking at it going home.
Well, that, gee, that's a lot of, a lot of combinations.
That's a lot of wasted, um, plastic parts.
If we're not going to, if we don't sell them all, so what are we going to do?
Just shred them?
Well, that would be stupid and wasteful.
So no, we're not going to do that.
We are going to assemble them into solid color drivers.
So Luke can show off all the, all the different colors of drivers here.
We've got a blue raspberry, pink pizzazz, red vibrancy, I'm just making these up as
I go, eggplant, orange that doesn't really look orange on camera, but looks quite orange
in person.
Don't worry about that.
Green sizzle and electric yellow.
Not bad.
I don't know.
I'm doing, I'm doing my best over here.
I think they're all, I think they're just called red, pink, purple, orange.
We're really creative about our naming.
Sometimes you are.
Yeah.
Sometimes often not though.
Um, and then the last thing that is available, this one is especially limited time.
Oh, is this, is this dropdown new?
Yeah.
Oh, super cool.
Yeah.
The facelift hit the, uh, hit the store.
So there's a, there's other changes other than that, but the, the, there's a hover menu,
uh, at the top now, which I think personally adds a ton of usability to the site.
Um, and it works in dark and light mode.
Can you still get these?
And she probably, anyway, I'm not certain.
Um, there's also the sizing chart.
If you check out one of the, say shirts, um, the sizing chart is new and significantly
better.
Um, there's lots of lots of other small changes, but those are, I think the main ones.
And where do I see that?
I think it's in, oh, size guide, sorry.
Right under the right over quantity above quantity.
Oh wow.
Okay.
Hey.
Oh, super cool.
So it pops up like a modal type thing, uh, which is a little bit more clear, um, and
also doesn't break the formatting of the site, which is good.
Okay.
Uh, yeah.
The last thing I wanted to talk about was mystery color screwdriver.
This is, as you can imagine, if people were building, you know, whatever drivers they
wanted at LTX, and then we took the leftovers and we made them into solid color drivers,
we can't control what people are going to use and we can't control how many are going
to be left.
So we probably ended up with a bit of a poop mix of random pieces that didn't really match
anything.
So, rather than waste those, we decided to go through the very manual process of assembling
them into mystery drivers.
These will come in any rando combination.
Um, they actually do cost more than a regular driver because of how manual the process of
creating these is at R3PL, they just could do cost us more, but hey, at least they come
with this pin.
Look a pin.
They love pins.
It comes with a pin.
It does.
See, I have in the past, I've always been like skeptical about pins.
That's the context for what I'm doing right now, but Luke assures me that people are super
into pins.
People love the pins.
I don't particularly care much, but some people are really into the pins.
Dan, can you move us so that I can, um, so I can see this picture?
Move us.
I think the people need to see the pin.
This is the pin next to the logo on an LTT backpack.
Look at the pin.
That wasn't, you just deleted us.
Oh, did you?
Oh, oh, we're back.
You can delete him too.
Whoa.
Watch this.
Boom.
Deleted.
Poor Dan.
All right.
He's going to make a starfield character that looks like you, and then he's going to jump
off a planet.
Oh, okay.
There's one last thing to talk about for the, uh, dark.
Oh.
How do you jump off a planet?
I don't think it's possible.
What is wrong with you?
Jumping off a planet.
There's two more things for the store, but there are more, there are less things for
us to announce to you and more things for you guys to tell us.
We are working on a pet bed.
It's going to be kind of cat or small dog sized.
It's about the size of like a, a 19 to 21 inch CRT monitor.
And it's got an opening in the front where the glass would be.
And so the pet can crawl into it and hang out in a little like, and it looks, uh, it
looks super cool.
It's like beige, like a, like a CRT.
Um, and what we wanted to know was for the pillow inside, would you guys prefer something
that's more like a, like a fuzzy finish, kind of like our CPU pillows?
Or do you guys want like the, um, the more like shiny, um, the more shiny finish.
So the pros and cons both ways, this is a little bit, is going to gather hair more,
but it's going to be more comfortable and soft.
Whereas the other one is going to be easier to brush hair off of, but it's maybe going
to be a little bit less comfortable.
So I'm going to run a poll for that now, unless Luke is already working on the poll.
I see him typing things.
No, I'm typing other stuff.
What do you want the poll to be?
Luke's doing completely unrelated typing things.
What do you want the poll to be?
Um, soft material.
So for the, um, for the pet bed, for the pillow inside, soft material or soft material like
the CPU pillow or yeah, or the more slick, sleek, like, um, like silky, it's smooth material.
So easier to wash or softer basically, um, like the silky material, the benefit is easier
to wash, right?
Exactly.
Less likely to gather, gather as much hair.
And the benefit of the soft material is just, it's softer.
It's softer.
Cool.
Yeah.
No matter what, we're going to make sure that the cover is removable so that it can
be machine washed.
Uh, we're just, we're just getting your guys' feedback on like what kind of material, what
direction to go.
And then the other bit that we wanted to talk to you guys about is if you're someone who
wears 4XL, 5XL, 4XL, 5XL or 6XL, uh, we are looking for alpha slash beta testers for our
extended sizing, both locally in the lower mainland and in other regions.
So we've got a place where you guys can sign up if you're interested.
It's a topic on the forum and I'm just going to, um, show it to you guys, uh, men's extended
sizing fittings by LMG community.
If you guys want to go find this, it's, um, under LTT official, lttstore.com merch, and
you can go seek it out so we could get you guys some of the early samples that we have.
You can give us feedback.
We want these things to work for you.
Uh, something to note is that we aren't working on the tall sizes yet.
So this is not a 4XL T or a 5XL T.
Um, that we're hoping will come later.
We want to do the standard height, um, uh, bigger XL sizes first.
Um, so we actually, yeah, we're asking for heights between five, nine and six foot.
So I am personally excluded.
I am too short.
We want stormtrooper height people.
Between five, nine and six foot.
Yeah.
Sorry, Luke.
Neither of us are allowed.
Get wrecked.
We're both bad.
Uh, it looks like around 70 so far, at least 70 ish percent of people want soft material
and 30 ish percent want slick material.
Someone did bring up a pretty interesting point though, where if you pick the soft material
one, um, and then, or if you pick the slick material one and then put a blanket over it.
Yeah, I can tell you now the shape of the inside is going to be a little bit irregular.
So the wrapping the blanket around the bottom might be a little bit funky because it's kind
of a T shaped pillow because of the shape of the CRT.
So the pillow sits in the bottom and the front of the CRT is like a wide and then the
back narrows like a monitor.
So it's a, so it's a T shape.
Is this a dog bed or like a dog cave?
It's a cave.
Those exist.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's, and it's, it's more cat sized just to be very clear because that might change
the answer.
Oh, I don't know.
That's, I mean, I said it's in the shape of a CRT and you go in through the screen.
Oh, okay.
I wasn't, I was paying attention.
Clearly not.
Two merch messages?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Sure.
Hit us, Dan.
Let's see.
What do we got?
What do we got?
Uh, what's the return rate of those screwdrivers?
Is the normal screwdriver allowed to be brought on a commercial flight?
Uh, you have to check bag it.
I think I haven't checked with the team lately, but I believe our overall return rate is somewhere
in the neighborhood of 1%, maybe like 1% and change.
That's pretty good.
Let's talk about what you would target for a successful project.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's very good though.
It seems pretty good.
Yeah.
We're really happy.
Yeah.
And yeah, don't, don't take it in the cabin of a, or don't try to take it in the cabin
of a plane.
It'll, it'll get confiscated by security.
Yeah.
You can take the stubby on a flight even then though.
I just wouldn't recommend it.
I would check bag it.
Just check your tools.
If they don't like it, they're, they're going to try to take it from you.
Yep.
Just think of your screwdriver as your privilege and check it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what I was going with that.
Next up for Linus.
Yeah.
Question for Linus.
What has been the most interesting thing you've learned from working with the engineers in
the lab?
Um, sorry.
I, uh, I, I tuned out for a second.
Someone was upset that the screwdriver pin only comes with the mystery and the solid
color screwdriver.
It doesn't come with it.
It's like 10 bucks.
Yeah.
So it's like, it's, it's a value add, but it's, I mean, they cost more.
We're just, it costs us more to make the things more than like the cost of a pin.
We're just trying to make it so that it's like overall a good value package.
We're trying to do a good thing.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
The pin didn't come with your thing.
Okay.
Sorry, Dan.
That's okay.
Uh, what has been the most interesting thing you have learned from working with the engine
engineers in the lab?
Oh, I mean, that's a, that's a, it's less like the things that
I have learned and more the process of working with them has been really enjoyable.
Like we have a, we have a co-op student right now who you guys are going to meet for the
first time, uh, sometime either this weekend or early next week.
We got our hands on a Soviet era mouse that's almost as old as me as I think it was manufactured
in like 91 or something like that, 91 or 92.
So it's, uh, yeah, not quite your age, I guess, but darn close.
And uh, you know, when we first got it, we thought, oh cool, it's cereal.
So we'll just plug it into any computer with the cereal.
Okay.
Was it a unknown?
Looks like cereal, but it was kind of like, uh, it was as similar to cereal as my, um,
my former Soviet stepdad's, um, thing that he would call breakfast cereal was to the
kind of cereal that I like to eat.
He would just take a, a loaf of bread and he would rip it into chunks and he would put
it into a cup, not a bowl, a cup for some reason.
He would pour milk over it and then he would just like eat it with his hands.
And I was, and he was like, yeah, it's Russian cereal.
I'm like, that sounds so much worse than just consuming both of those things individually.
Yeah.
I never really like, wow, that sounds so much worse.
Yeah.
I have done the, like, I just take a piece of bread cause I have nothing else to eat
and just mash it into a ball and then eat that cause I find the texture more interesting.
Like I I've been there, but I would eat that and then drink the milk, not do it at the
same time.
I don't know, man.
But all right.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I really, I really can't clarify this for you anymore than I already have because no
amount of explanation from him has ever made it make sense to me.
Uh, the point is that it was not cereal just like his cereal is not cereal.
Um, so working with, um, you know what, I'm just going to let you guys meet him cause,
uh, cause yeah, he's, he's going to be in that video.
So working with him on it, uh, he managed to get it to first go from absolutely nothing
to it moves, but we can only move in one direction along one axis at a time or no at all.
Oh no.
Well first we got to click, then we got to moving along one axis.
We learned all kinds of cool stuff.
So you're saying it's powered along one axis.
Stop it.
That was post-Soviet anyway.
It was funny though.
Don't you start.
Or pre-Soviet.
Oh wait, hold on a second.
Yeah, no, that was.
Yeah, no.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, I've got my, uh, okay.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I was, I was thinking nineties.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure.
You got the German, the Italians.
Okay.
Hold on.
Who was the, who was the axis?
Axis powers.
No, no.
The Soviets weren't Axis.
They were Allied.
I thought they were at the beginning.
Five other nations.
Five other nations.
Did they start there and then they flipped?
Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria.
Okay.
Hold on.
People are, no, they were not Axis.
Okay.
So I don't even feel.
What about at the very beginning?
I don't know.
Were they just neutral or not involved or something?
Are you talking world war one or two?
Uh, I thought they were at the very, or the, uh, in Italy.
No, I'm not thinking Italy.
I probably just don't understand it.
Point is I didn't get the joke and I don't feel bad.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
Boom.
Got him.
I didn't get the joke for a completely different reason though, because the USSR de facto allied
with Germany for the invasion of Poland, but then later on it was flipped.
So this is, I, I don't know if that was part of the, I might be getting some stuff wrong,
but I'm not like, yeah, anyways, it's fine.
Okay.
Moving on.
The point is it was really fun working with the labs on the project as they, you know,
dug through random Russian forums with Google translate and managed to get that, you know,
spoiler managed to get the mouse working enough that I was able to play a modern FPS game
with it.
So someone in full flight chat said, stop stalling the show.
Does.
I'm just going to, there you go.
You get your, uh, good job.
Linus is angry.
I'm just going to let him burn himself out of here.
It's okay.
We're good.
We can move on.
All right.
Why don't we do another topic?
Wait, did we do two, two merch messages?
We did.
Yes.
Okay.
I fix it.
I'm going to repair to McDonald's.
Yeah, I think this is hilarious and cool.
This is so cool.
They bought and tore down a McDonald's ice cream machine in order to determine the cause
of their well-known unreliability in terms of hardware as you'd probably expect for an
industrial piece of equipment that has like a tiny crappy little display on it and otherwise
does basically nothing other than squirt out cold stuff.
Uh, the guts of the machine are pretty basic.
They consist of a compressor, a motor and circuit boards.
However, the machines are prone to overheating and around 10% of McDonald's ice cream machines
are broken at any given time, which is remarkable.
And another incredible rabbit hole that I would strongly recommend.
It's very interesting.
The issue appears to be mostly software based.
The machine's once daily re-pasteurization cycle takes around four hours to complete,
but it is easily disrupted and often needs to be manually reset.
The machine will frequently throw out confusing error codes, which have to be interpreted
using an obtusely written manual.
According to a longstanding contract, all McDonald's ice cream machines are built and
must be repaired by Taylor, the company that makes them.
Taylor is typically slow to respond to requests and 25% of Taylor's profits come from the
service technicians that are called out to fix these machines and get this, they cost
$315 every 15 minutes.
So what does that work out to?
$1,260 an hour.
Wow.
I need a raise.
No kidding.
Well, you're going to have to go to the ice cream machine repair industry.
I got some bad news.
I chose the wrong career.
I got some bad news for you.
The technicians aren't the ones making that money.
Got them.
At one point, a startup called Kitch developed a device that automatically interprets the
machine's error codes, allowing franchise owners to conduct their own basic repairs.
However, this is great, McDonald's head office pressured franchisees to stop using it.
Really?
It's just getting paid off.
Pockets lined.
So now iFixit is petitioning the Copyright Office for an exemption that allows third
party repair workers to fix industrial and commercial equipment.
However, in order to bypass Taylor's digital locks, they're also requesting that Congress
address flaws in the DMCA that protects this kind of behavior.
Let's go.
Let's go iFixit.
You know what?
There are certain industries where I think you can at least make an argument.
If we're talking about a machine that keeps your heart beating, I think that if a manufacturer
were to say, look, we should really be the only ones to service this thing, there's at
least an argument to be made, even if the medical industry is extremely predatory and
all the same things we're looking at here are happening, except in those cases it's
life and death, so it reaches a whole new level of amorality.
I'm not arguing any of that.
I'd like to make that actually clear so that this doesn't end up being misinterpreted.
It's disgusting.
But at least there's an argument to be made.
And maybe, I think some arguments could be made there too, where building a code interpreter
might be okay in that scenario, and then certain levels of repairs to certain things might
be okay, but there's certain levels of repairs that should really be done by fully certified
technicians, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't know.
But an ice cream machine.
This is not life or death for the most part.
I mean, anything consumable probably is, but as anyone who's ever worked in a commercial
kitchen will tell you, the re-pasteurization cycle on the ice cream machine is probably
the least of your concerns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, have all three of us worked in food service at some point?
I haven't.
Really?
I went straight into lifeguarding.
That was my first job.
And I'm glad I did from everything that I've heard.
But if you guys want to tell some stories, I always find these to be highly amusing.
I would be careful of ordering taco pizzas from shops that you don't think taco pizzas
get ordered from often.
And why would that be?
Because the sour cream sure might not be that new.
I mean, it's supposed to be sour.
Real sour.
That would be my main thing is like, consider to a certain degree how often the place you're
ordering from is going through the ingredient that you're ordering.
Get this.
First response in chat is, what the fuck is a taco pizza?
So that should give you some idea how often these are getting ordered, which is a big
part of Luke's problem with them.
Yeah.
They exist.
And it's like the only thing that gets sour cream in the whole shop.
So just think about it.
If that pizza place is like famous for their taco pizza, maybe it's fine.
But if you're like, wait, what the heck?
Taco pizza exists.
Just consider it.
That's all I would say.
They might be completely fine.
They might be totally above board.
They might use the sour cream and other things.
They might be very diligent about making sure that they're replacing expired sour cream.
But I guarantee you they're not all that way.
So just, yeah, that's it.
What's yours?
We need a story.
I was actually thinking, I used to work in fine dining back in the house, so I was a
little bit more violent about that.
Everything was cleaned up the bottom every single day, freshened every single day, even
on bread there was no fresher every day.
Oh, that's pretty nice.
That sounds like a lot of work.
It was a lot.
And that started at six with the set menu, and the baker started at five AM.
Oh, they can't hear you.
Oh, I thought you did that too.
Whoops.
I used to work in fine dining.
Okay.
Well, you guys get the story now.
We'll just...
Yeah, just do it again.
Go ahead.
I used to work in fine dining.
It was a little bit different.
I don't know if I have any bad stories, but yeah, everything was cleaned up the bottom
every single day.
All the ingredients were fresh every day and was pretty much only what we could get that
day.
Leftovers like our veal stock and things like that would be made from leftovers from the
previous day's service and then boiled overnight and then skimmed and basically continued into
the rest of stuff.
Fresh bread every single day, all that sort of thing.
I don't know.
Desserts.
So what's this restaurant so I can exclusively eat there?
You don't have to name it.
I won't name it publicly, but I'll tell you if you want.
I don't know if it's the same.
I haven't worked there in a long time.
I think that's part of my point, though, is consider the restaurant that you're going
to.
Yeah, this place definitely pays everyone that's working there absolute minimum wage
and doesn't treat their employees well and is a little not that amazing and they have
something that has taco sour cream stuff on it and we don't think it's going to sell that
much.
Consider ordering that because their cleanliness levels and stuff might not be that amazing,
but other places it might be fine.
I want to hear Dan's tip.
Will they give you a tour of the kitchen?
Imagine that, getting a tip from a waiter.
I was back at house.
That's pretty interesting.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah, we used to do tours of the kitchen.
You did tours of the kitchen?
Yeah.
If you had a nice client in who was like, I'd really like to meet the chef.
This meal was lovely.
We'd bring them back in.
Floors are done.
I don't think I've ever eaten at the kind of restaurant you worked at.
Oh.
Yeah, maybe not.
Would it occur to you in a thousand years to ask the server if you could have a tour
of the kitchen and meet the chef?
No.
It sounds super cool and sounds really fancy and awesome or whatever.
Would you do that for everyone or does they have to expand enough for something?
It didn't happen very often, but I think it's the kind of guy who would come in there and
be like, this was nice.
I got to meet this chef.
That kind of person doesn't come through very often, if you know what I mean, but it was
clean enough and we ran a tight enough ship that that was totally fine.
Jake from the lab says, my story, X was a professional chef, worked at a high end steakhouse
in Bristol and if anybody ordered a well done steak, the chefs would toss it on the
ground first and call it floor spice.
I think that's like a crime.
That is just a crime, I think, yeah.
That's like a game.
Well, I don't know about in Bristol, but here I think you'd be breaking like actual laws
around food safety.
I mean, I can tell you this.
I dropped one of the burger patties from the party, from the pool party.
I have no idea who ate it, but they're not dead, so, okay, but you're not a restaurant.
I'm really not.
I think it makes a big difference.
More of a ghost kitchen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
And, and, and, and, and hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Uh oh, chat.
It was pre being cooked.
I was cooking them from frozen.
So it like, basically I might as well have dropped a piece of plastic on the floor in
terms of like how much, you know, ground shmoo, oh, this is outdoors, mind you, but
like how much porch shmoo it managed to pick up and it was pre cooking it, obviously.
So it spent the next like nine minutes or whatever at 400 degrees Celsius.
So it's like, whatever was on it is dead.
It might've been me who ate it.
One in like 45 chance that it was me, so probably not, but, um, uh, some people are saying that
I I'm traumatized by this taco pizza.
I, I actually, I got in a debate with my boss at the time, uh, about it.
We had like a little fight about it cause he, he was like ordering people to serve expired
sour cream.
Um, and I was like pissed, but I was also like 12.
Um, so there were limitations to what I could accomplish.
Oh, sorry.
400 Fahrenheit, 400 Fahrenheit.
We cook in Fahrenheit up here, I guess, whatever.
And we did, we did get complaints about it.
So it like, it actually was like a big thing, but yeah.
To clarify, they would toss it on the ground pre cooking.
Thanks Jake.
That's a very helpful, but they were probably not cooking from frozen, so they probably
picked up a lot more floor schmoo.
Yeah.
Anyways, let's move on.
Was two more topics.
Oh, okay.
What the fuck?
Oh man.
People I've float plane chat or like going through their, their experiences.
I worked for Timmy's when I was 17.
I could write a book with the stuff I've seen people do.
My direct manager was so lazy.
She used to scoop the chocolate out of the tubs with her bare hands into the warming
bins.
Also never order the broccoli cheddar soup, hashtag facts.
I think that's one of my examples though.
How many people are going to order broccoli cheddar soup from Tim's?
I've eaten it.
I like broccoli soup.
I'm really unhappy about it right now.
I get chili from Tim's.
This might be just as bad.
Oh no.
The chili is if you.
Okay.
This is all hearsay, but what I have heard said is that especially if you're at a Tim's
Wendy's combo restaurant, the chili is made of the meat that is not good enough to put
in a burger anymore.
Nice.
That makes sense.
I don't know if that's true.
That could be not a fact.
I don't think that's true because I don't think they make it there.
I don't think they just heat it up.
Well.
It comes to the store.
I don't know.
That's I, that was an interesting tip someone gave me.
If you want to figure out if the restaurant that you're at is just reheating things, ask
them to make a small change to a soup.
CH5609 says perpetual chili.
Oh man.
Uh, yeah, cool.
Wendy's chili is burger meat apparently.
That's this chat says it.
I don't know if this is true.
I don't know if this is true.
Um, yeah, I don't know if that's true.
Okay.
So.
I don't know.
We should move on from if we were, if we were trying to take care of ourselves, we wouldn't
need it anyway.
So realistically bring it on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, Oh, uh, we're supposed to do sponsors.
Wait, is this, is this sponsorship?
This part, this giveaway in partnership with AMD it Luke, do you want to, do you want to
show the people, whatever this is?
Sure.
We can keep that camera.
I can just pick it up from the front.
I won't be able to talk, but we can do that.
Uh, here, I'll, I'll grab it for you and we'll, I can slide it back.
I didn't, I just didn't know which one we want to do.
You don't have to do this.
No, no.
I got this.
Oh, it's heavy.
Hold on.
No, no.
I can do it.
I can do it here.
I'm practicing.
I'm practicing.
I I'm, I'm going to add from my career in, in, in the food services industry.
That's going to come after this.
Okay.
Realistically.
Um, your hair's too messy.
Oh, sorry.
Okay.
Hold on.
Which way does it go?
I can't do this in a camera because it's the opposite of, I don't remember.
That's fine.
Service.
No, I just, I just do it.
Whatever works that way.
You switch.
I don't know.
It doesn't.
Everyone.
Wow.
That's really weird.
My hair just goes that way.
It doesn't like, there's no like decision making.
It'll go the other way.
Hold on.
What?
This is magic.
What the hell?
How are you doing this?
This is madness.
Stop this immediately.
He's a wizard.
I'll have to wash my hands now.
Oh crap.
Okay.
Hold on.
I can just take.
Oh my goodness.
Okay.
I'll just.
Okay.
Why?
Well, the chat told me I had to, okay, no, it's over the box.
Hold on.
I got it.
Your card, sir.
I don't actually know what's in here.
What?
Oh wait.
No, no.
I'm doing this wrong.
Here you are, sir.
Oh.
Okay.
Well, I think we know that food service is off the table for Mr. Linus.
Was that planned?
I thought people like floor meat.
It's got the extra spice schmoo.
It's schmoo.
Yes.
It's in our experience, I guess so.
Is this planned?
No, it's a lot heavier at the front.
Oh, there's a GPU in the front and there's an empty CPU box with no heat sink.
And a piece of paper in the back.
So it's when I pulled on it, it just went, um, any who, okay, here, you take it.
Cool.
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The game code's not visible.
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I'm going to post that in all the chats or at least I'm going to try.
Oh, there's even custom power cables.
These are sweet.
Yeah.
That's, that's good.
No, it's cool.
They're extensions.
They're extensions for your power supply to the graphics card.
So they, they fit the theme of your GPU.
That's actually really cool.
That's very cool.
You're brushing this off, but it's cool.
No, no, I'm, I'm just working on something because that redirection link is not working.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
It doesn't even appear to be case sensitive.
Why is the processor not in here?
I think labs borrowed it or something to test something.
No, no.
Plouffe borrowed it for the Starfield video that we shot this morning.
Yeah.
I think that was like the, it was the, the high-end spec one or something like that.
We used that cause I think labs had all the other chips.
I've played Starfield on what is effectively this card and it was great.
So you'll be all good if you win this.
Yeah.
I think this link doesn't work.
Have we opened this GPU?
Can I show the GPU off?
Yeah, just show the GPU.
Whatever.
If people get the opened one, then they'll know that we, we pretested it.
We sour creamed it.
Wait.
It's also wet.
That came across wrong.
I need to message someone and find out what's going on with that link.
Actually.
Oh, Dan, Dan, can you do that?
Do what?
Oh, it looks so cool.
Can you message Colton?
Okay, hold on.
We're going back to the, Oh, dang it.
Just take it out of the box.
You're going to drop it.
Yeah, yeah.
You're all good.
You're all good.
Let's see the backside.
I'm not going to drop it, Dan.
Whoa.
It even has like little color accents on the thing.
Okay.
This is sick.
First of all, you get a red, orange and blue little striping on the, on the heat sinks
there.
Okay.
That's pretty cool.
And then check out the back.
Why did they only do five of these?
They should have done a whack of these.
Man.
That's awesome.
It looks cooler when you're up close.
I will say.
Look at it in the TV and it looks a lot cooler when you're up close in your system.
This will look even better than it does.
It's got a really nice finish.
If I were you and you won this, I would keep the not for resale sticker on here because
that is sick.
Yeah.
That looks super cool.
And then if you end up mounting it this way, that's pretty sweet.
Graphic booster propellant.
That's cool.
I think it looks great.
This is a really cool design.
You can see on the end.
Special star.
All right.
Flight crew.
Yeah.
That's super cool.
Awesome design.
All right.
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All right.
Thank you.
I will, I will get that.
I will get that into the other chats.
Really appreciate you guys.
Man, shout out float plane for just being the flipping coolest.
You guys are great.
Pretty much.
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That may have been the single spiciest sponsor segment that we have ever done on the WAN
show.
Uh, I think I had two weeks to simmer, right?
Out of ten, out of ten, do you think I had it coming?
Oh yeah.
It's not even going to give a number.
No, no, I don't know, ten.
I don't think it's the spiciest one we've ever done though, but I don't even want to
reference the one that I think was spicier.
Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.
I don't think we're going to talk about that.
Yeah.
Was it a long time ago?
No.
Oh, okay, then you're probably wrong.
Oh.
Hmm.
Alright.
Yeah.
Cool.
Uh, Lenovo.
Three merch messages.
What?
Oh, three merch.
Oh, sorry, Dan.
Hit us.
Is that okay?
Uh, let's see.
Any chance of even more special bits for the screwdriver?
Hold on.
They're texting each other.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
I was wrong.
I forgot about that.
Sorry, Dan.
Keep going.
That's totally fine, yeah.
Enjoy your moment.
It's a funny thing.
To all the people that are like, you know, yeah, why does Linus keep putting his foot
in his mouth lately?
It ain't new, man.
No hints.
Nope.
Nope.
Sorry.
Go, Dan.
We're moving on.
He asked if there's going to be more specialty bits for the screwdrivers.
The answer is yes.
Alright, throw me that thing that you were fidgeting with earlier.
Luke has it to fidget thing with.
Okay, cool.
Is this, which version of the bearing is this?
The bad one.
Not the new one.
This is not the new one.
No.
Okay.
So I'm just going to go like this.
And then I'm going to talk about some of the different screwdriver bits that we have planned.
I know that we have some additional head types for like the quarter inch hex drive ones,
like the full size and the stubby.
And then we also have a full set of bits that is going to come with our precision driver
at some point.
I just want to clarify.
Still going.
And this is the bad version.
This is the bad version.
This is the crunchy one.
It didn't quite stop before you moved.
I do want to clarify that the point of this driver is not to compete directly with someone
like an iFixit.
We love iFixit.
We love their mission.
There's so many things that they do that we are just not even going to begin to approach.
I love what they've done with the McDonald's things, the teardowns, the guides.
But we do think there's space for a fidget toy premium driver, fidget toy grade driver
that also has bit storage.
It's going to probably be quite a bit more expensive than the iFixit driver.
You saw the one with the big back rest, right?
It had the giant pommel on the back.
Yeah.
So one of the features that's going to differentiate ours is we're trying to do interchangeable
tops.
So you could have one that really is just a precision driver with a fidget toy at the
top.
Do you know how long it's spun for?
No, I don't.
Seven minutes.
That's pretty cool.
Was that with the good bearing though?
I don't know.
I don't even think they have them in yet.
Yeah.
So anyway, yeah, so we'll have all kinds of different bits coming.
And in the long term, we would love to allow people to just order individual bits and make
their own sets.
For the time being, we can only do them as packs just because of how kind of relatively
unsophisticated our pick and pack procedures are.
Okay.
Another merch message?
Sure, sure, sure.
Let's see.
Are you fidgeting with that under the table?
Because I can definitely hear that mic.
Oh yeah.
Sorry, I'll stop.
Yeah, I shouldn't have left it with a mic.
I need to put it down, yeah.
Let's see.
This thing seems fun.
Given LTT's growth, would you ever consider private jet travel for yourself or other
employees instead of booking an airline ticket?
It's one of those things that I think would be kind of fun to experience once.
But I don't want to be judgey, but I'm personally kind of opposed to the private air travel
industry.
I don't think it sends a good message.
I don't think it's particularly helpful in a lot of ways.
Obviously, it helps people save time.
Other than that, there's some stuff about it that I find...
How do I put this?
I'm not a fan personally.
I've only flown first class once.
Hey, me too, exactly once.
It happened to be-
It wasn't my choice.
It happened to be just the ticket they booked.
In the early days of the company, I would have people offer it often.
What I would always say is, I can't pay my staff with a first class plane ticket.
What I would actually like you to do is, since I know you have the budget for it, you can
pay me another couple grand and we'll do the deal and I'll fly coach.
I've pulled that move a lot of times over the years.
So yeah, there's a lot of things about it that make me kind of uncomfortable.
I get that this is something that people either don't believe or don't want to hear or whatever
else, but I don't actually like feeling separated.
Even at our lands, we have staff areas that are cordoned off for people who prefer that,
but I prefer to just sit with everyone.
I don't like to be separated.
There are reasons that that is probably kind of better if I actually wanted to play games,
because people do interrupt me a lot.
But I don't know.
It's not something that I'm particularly comfortable with.
I've sprung for some economy plus seats before.
Well, you're tall.
I have no excuse.
I'm also a weird form of tall because almost all my height comes in my torso and I have
very broad shoulders.
So if I sit in a middle seat, it's actually just rude to everyone because my shoulders
will be in their seats.
I cannot avoid it.
So if there's only middle seats left in the standard coach section, I'll often spring
a little bit more to try to get in economy plus.
I'm never going to do business or something like that, I'll try to find a new flight,
but I'll sometimes do economy plus just to try to get out of that situation.
I've literally had someone before who had, I don't remember which one it was, aisle or
window, but offered to switch with me because they're like, I'm assuming you'll just lean
over.
And I was like, yeah.
And they're like, cool.
So I leaned over and got my shoulder out of their way.
And I was like, I honestly appreciate that you did that.
I did not take that in a rude way at all.
This is just way better for everyone.
Thank you.
So I don't know.
I've done that, but that's like, I don't know.
Maximum like 90 bucks, how tall are you?
I'm not like that crazy tall.
My torso is just pretty abnormally tall.
Yeah.
Plasma tour says there's a legitimate use case for business class overseas.
If you do it right, your first day is useful as opposed to dealing with jet lag.
That's totally fair.
I've always just kind of powered through it.
But the one time I did fly business class was when I went to, to visit the Intel fab
and that was really far.
Yeah.
I'll just, not everyone can.
I'll just sleep in coach or I'll just suffer.
I guess I've just, I've done it so many times and I've been doing it so long at this point.
I'm just like, yeah, okay, here we go.
Yeah.
Someone in Twitch chat says my company owner has sprung for private jet travel a couple
times for me and my team to get to events when other stuff was going to be really, really
challenging.
Sometimes there's no other options and there's, there's also a huge range in like private
flight.
Yeah.
So I think that what we're talking about when we're like, no, is the like hyper fancy, like
I have a large plane with like dining areas and stuff.
I've only flown even like the one that you can recline the whole way.
Like the kind of like C shaped thing where you're, one's facing forward, one's facing
back.
I've only done that once.
With that said.
Cause you were talking about private flight.
Oh, private.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
Yes.
Yes.
For private air travel.
Not for myself.
I'm trying to think.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think.
And it was not for a paid event.
It wasn't like for a sponsored thing.
We didn't make any money from the event.
We lost money on the event.
Can you remember what it was?
LTX?
No.
Oh, okay.
There was a flood involved.
There was a flood involved?
Yeah.
When Colton couldn't make it to the Christmas party.
Oh, yeah.
But again, I'm going to point this out again.
I'm sure that wasn't like a super fancy, like what people are going to think of when you
say private jet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a bit different.
And I would have done it for that scrapyard wars.
That would have been sick.
I was willing.
That would have been awesome.
Yeah.
Okay.
I got a half a question and then a proper question for Luke.
Can you get more loading screens with mods on Starfield?
Can you get more?
We want more loading screens.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.
Open the menu.
Loading screen simulator.
I was looking at this earlier in the show, but I went on Nexus mods for Starfield and
looked at today's new mods.
So mods in the last 24 hours and there has been 106.
Yeah.
I told you they'd be fast.
It's crazy.
Are there any bird mods?
No.
Oh.
Joel's 13 says, if you ever want to try it without spending a ton or feeling bad about
the environmental impact, look up empty leg flights.
It's where a private plane needs to get somewhere.
So they just fly the plane there.
Oh.
Yeah.
I've never heard of that before.
Me neither.
But that makes sense.
I'd be, I'd be super down to try something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure there's like travel YouTubers and stuff who have done videos about that.
I still just, I don't care personally.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's you.
Okay.
Hold on.
I'm going to, I'm going to convince you.
I'm going to give myself one minute to convince you.
Actually, I'm going to give myself about 10, 10 seconds to convince you.
Okay.
One of the big things for you is experiences.
Yeah.
And I think that you would enjoy that experience if you shared it with your family.
Damn it.
Got him.
Oh, I felt that.
I felt it.
I felt it hit him.
Damn it.
I felt that.
God, you're good at this, Linus.
See, this is the problem.
When you know someone this well, Oh, that was brutal.
The problem is that when you know someone this well, you can only, you can only achieve
that if you also open yourself up so he can hit me just as hard.
I just have to wait for it.
Oh yeah.
That's a pretty fair one.
All right.
Okay.
Last, last actual question.
Yeah.
Hello fellow techs with Nvidia being less and less interested to invest in the gaming
space.
How long do you think it will get before they start charging a monthly fee for using DLSS
like technology?
Why do they know me so much so well?
They know how to just make me not want to do this anymore.
I not only don't want to talk on WAN Show anymore.
I don't want to talk about that.
I don't want to face that.
I actually almost wish that was never asked.
I don't want to have to make that video.
Yeah.
I don't want to cover it.
Seeing the donut media team address the like subscription seat, subscription seat warmers
was like painful for, I think the exact same reason.
There is, I think that sometimes I've seen it many times over the years, the general
viewer or at least some subset of the general viewer seems to think that we have some kind
of power that we don't have.
You know, whether it's overpriced GPUs or like under spec, like, oh, if only you guys
complained about it more, you could get this changed.
We can't change anything.
And it's honestly, it makes our impotence feel all the more frustrating because there's
at least a subset of you guys who want this from us, who want us to wield this enormous
club that you feel like we have for this industry wide change at the most, we can affect policy
within a department at some of these companies or something like that, but you have to understand
they're publicly held the answer to one entity, the shareholder, that's it.
So if people will buy this, then they're going to pump it out.
And it's like, sorry, I'm not meaning to like, I'm not meaning to go off on this or anything,
but it's so frustrating because we're just watching this slow motion, burning train crash.
And it's like the extra weight of the expectation that we can do something about it is it's
all the more frustrating.
I hate it just as much as you guys.
And I hate that you're probably right.
It is a matter of f***ing time until there is a subscription tier GPU feature.
And you know what?
It's not going to start on GeForce.
It's not going to start with the LSS with premium.
It's going to start.
Well, it's already starting with the data center grade stuff, and then it's going to
make its way into the workstation.
And then it's going to make its f***ing way into consumer.
It's already there if you pay for a GPU as a service like GeForce now, but it's a matter
of time before it makes it into the card that you supposedly own.
Sorry, this is a thing.
Ah, anyway, sorry, yes, go ahead.
Do you think you can push a boycott?
Yeah, I'm going to convince gamers to stop playing games.
Just like we convinced people to stop paying for microtransactions.
Just like we convinced people to stop preordering.
It doesn't matter.
Crom Welp on X or Twitter, the director of publishing at Larian Studios recently was
in a thread talking about this, and I strongly agree when it comes to game pass style subscriptions.
So accessing video games, not the Nvidia GeForce one, but just like the Xbox one or PlayStation
one, or whatever.
Origin has one.
I think Uplay has one, whatever, where they were basically saying, if you can afford it,
which is a pretty big caveat, but if you can afford it, just buy the games outright.
One of the issues with these subscription services, and I brought this argument up recently
to someone, I don't remember who, but they were like, hey, no, I know some game developers,
and they make some good money if they get onto one of these services, it's a good payday.
The problem is, when these things become ubiquitous, then the four or five companies that run them
run everything, and now they can dictate all the terms.
I believe- Love that Freudian slip.
I believe recently, Microsoft and PlayStation have cut their payments to, I believe it's
just indie developers, but it might be developers overall.
The only reason why they can do that is because they're not worried about it.
They upped their prices and cut their payments to indie developers at the same time.
You saw Microsoft change the terms of their trial for games pass in the lead up to Starfield.
So it's like- It's like, yeah, that's well within their
rights to do.
And what if your favorite game gets taken off of it, and at the same time, what if it
gets taken off of one of these subscription services years after proof?
It's in Game Linked, go watch Game Linked, I'm sure it's cited there somehow.
But if this game that you love is taken off of these services, and also isn't currently
for sale on any of the stores, it's just gone.
We're seeing this happen with web video, web movies right now.
Like Netflix-style platforms, where they're taking things off of the platform in order
to get a tax write-off on it, but that means you don't have access to it anymore.
And yeah, sure, it got taken off the platform, maybe it wasn't that good.
But maybe you liked it.
So like, man, that sucks.
I don't know.
I don't subscribe to any of these things, and I know I'm an old school, I want physical
versions of my games person, but this is almost a different argument.
This has actually nothing to do with physical versions of games.
This has a mixture of things to do with wanting the developer, hoping that I'm taking a little
bit less control away from the subscription services, and making it so that developers
have a little bit more, because I think that's important.
There's a relationship there, right?
They need the platform.
Steam is really important.
These other things are really important.
They need a storefront to be able to sell their games through.
Everyone just selling their games through their own websites is not going to be great.
It works for some people, it's not going to work for everyone, but the cuts are rough.
And to people saying that piracy is the answer, here's the problem with that argument.
Piracy is the answer as long as formats exist that can be pirated.
All they have to do is basically decide as an industry.
It's all game streaming now.
Yeah, you know what?
These games, we're just never going to make the files available for anyone to download.
There will be nothing to reverse engineer.
And there will be leaks occasionally.
I mean, we saw that giant dump out of Nintendo, but almost literally everything that came
out of that was 20 years old.
You are not going to be just playing pirated games that were only ever installed in a data
center that was NDA'd up the butt six months after release or anything like that.
Or they can collectively just decide, you know what, it's just not worth it if people
are just going to pirate this stuff.
And people might turn to piracy if they start making everything a subscription.
So it becomes this arms race where they kind of go, okay, well then we're just only going
to develop games that are hyper reliant on the always online sort of community features.
And that's something we've already seen where you've got this like multiplayer-ish kind
of cloud functionality that's just kind of shoehorned into games that honestly didn't
need it, but then suffer a degraded gaming experience if you don't have them, at least
for some people, even if it's something as simple as people just leaving comments behind
that you can find.
I don't know, it's just like we talked about, I think we talked about this last week, how
I was saying I'm worried about the future of movies.
Did we talk about that?
I think we did.
I think so.
I'm worried about the future of gaming too, which is kind of crazy.
Which is weird because we're coming out of a rough era into a very good era right now.
But I will also say one of the great things about this current era is a lot of these games
have very acceptable monetization setups, which is interesting because for a while there,
like remember the Battlefront era when like, what was it, it would cost you like a hundred
grand to unlock all the characters or no, it was like a hundred thousand hours of gameplay.
I don't remember what it was.
I don't remember the quote.
Pride and accomplishment.
Yeah.
It's like one of the most upvoted things on Reddit ever or downvoted.
Like 600,000 or something.
Yeah, sure.
Whatever.
I don't know.
It's been a while.
But like we came from that into where we currently are, which is great.
But because we're in a great spot right now doesn't guarantee that we'll be in a good
spot in the future.
Yeah.
And I don't know everything about the games industry.
I'm not in it.
It doesn't even mean that we're in as good a spot as we think we are now.
I mean, one of the first things that you were saying about the splash screen when you jump
into Starfield is that they've got that box sitting there that is obviously a placeholder
to get you used to seeing something there so they can start selling you horse armor.
Let's not forget who started this whole bloody thing.
Yeah.
Horse armor.
Never forget.
Bethesda.
I know like Mark Kern popped off on this.
I don't know if it was because of here.
I don't know if it was because of what it looked like or if it was because of this thing
in the corner because I honestly didn't pay attention to that conversation because I didn't
care because I think it looks fine.
But this welcome to Starfield Square in the corner.
Work my words.
Will be used to sell things.
I like that.
I hate that you're right.
I hate that.
I promise you.
It's going to happen.
Some DLC is going to come out or something.
Something's going to be available.
I don't know.
Just mod it out.
Yeah.
It's the solution to everything.
Add a loading screen to it.
Yeah.
Can I just shout out Twitch Chat?
Someone is gifting subs to people who have usernames that insult me.
If that's how you guys want to express your hate, I'm super into it.
That's pretty funny.
You guys really are something else, Twitch Chat.
Lenovo announces the Legion Go handheld.
It's to be released in October and highlights include an AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme with integrated
graphics.
So this is just like the ROG Ally.
A starting price of $699.
However it's 799 euros in Europe, which is closer to 860 US dollars.
A little weird.
Maybe this indicates that it'll be a higher spec.
Maybe this is a VAT included price.
Not 100% sure.
Anywho.
49.2.
This says hours.
I'm sure it means milliamp hours compared to the Ally's 40.
Which would be nice.
I've been using my...
Watt hours.
Oh watt hours.
That would be a lot higher if it was milliamp hours.
49.2 watt hours.
I think it's big.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter.
No one's going to look at this dock again.
That'd be a big improvement.
I've been using the Ally a lot lately to play Chain Decos.
And I have found the battery life affecting my habits.
Like I will play...
Do you play in bed?
I play in bed a lot.
Yeah.
I'm a bed player.
This makes a lot more sense.
Just timeline-wise of when you log into that game, I'm like okay.
Well I'm like always logged into that game because I just leave it running.
My son was making fun of me for taking over 100 hours to beat the game.
And I'm just like, son.
I have put like less than half of that into it because I just like fall asleep and it's
just like lying there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It doesn't matter.
Anywho.
I was...
Sorry.
I just...
I fell asleep playing Slay the Spire on my phone.
And my hand was like out like this.
And I woke up with my hand still propped up with the phone still in it.
And my girlfriend said like, yeah, I saw you like that.
I just thought it was funny.
I just left it there.
Did you at least plug it into the charger?
No.
Well it eventually like went to sleep and was fine.
It didn't keep the game running the whole time.
But yeah, when I woke up and my hand was still like that, I thought I just dozed off for
a second and went to go like put it on the charger.
But I realized it was like the morning and I needed to get up.
I thought that was pretty funny.
Anyways.
The screen is huge.
This is wild.
It has an 8.8 inch display.
So this thing is going to be flipping enormous.
I hadn't actually looked at this yet.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't they just put bigger, you know, buttons on it at that point?
Those look even like full sized joysticks like the Steam Deck.
In fact, those look like touch pads.
Like oh no, just one.
It does look like a touch pad.
One touch pad.
I guess that would be convenient for navigation even if you can't use it for gaming like you
can on the Steam Deck.
I'd like that, yeah.
Why not?
I mean you could use it for certain kinds of games.
You could play like a city builder game or whatever else.
I mean you can't use them as like a dual sticks replacement like you can on the Steam Deck.
The resolution of the display is 2560 by 1600.
It runs it up to 144 hertz.
It has two USB 4 ports which may or may not allow you to connect an external GPU.
Support for eGPU on USB 4 devices is a little bit hit or miss.
I am liking the price, 16 gigs of RAM, 256 to 1 terabyte Gen 4 SSD.
The discussion question here is are we about to see real competition in the gaming handheld space?
I'm going to say no.
Really?
Yeah.
Why?
Because nobody is competing with the Steam Deck right now.
Oh, okay.
Do you guys see the price of those refurb Steam Decks?
By the way, dang it Austin.
Austin Evans.
Video on refurb Steam Decks.
Were you going to do the same thing?
Not only did a video on refurb Steam Decks but we had an idea to have kind of like a
more complete angle on it and like do a bunch of upgrades to it with the money that you
saved and he did the same bloody thing.
So anyway we're going to try and do even more upgrades because whatever, f*** you Austin.
Just kidding.
I love Austin.
But yeah we're going to try and do even more upgrades to our Steam Deck.
He was on Kyle's podcast and he was saying that he gets recognized as you like all the
time.
What?
He says it drives him nuts.
I don't even have a beard.
Yeah but you didn't used to.
So he was also at the same time talking about how one of the worst things for people to
say when they meet him is I used to watch your videos.
Oh what about my boyfriend watches your videos because that's the one I usually get.
I don't mind that one.
Why do you not like that one?
It's just the thing people always say to me.
So it's like predictable.
Tell me something I'm not expecting to hear I guess.
It's not upsetting or anything.
I know what our demographics are.
It's just always funny.
So anytime someone who identifies as a woman walks up to me I'll start counting down.
Five, four, three, two.
My boyfriend loves your videos.
But it's not always that way and it's pretty cool when it's not that way.
No it's not always that way but it very very often is.
One of the almost the thing Austin said but not quite ones when people walk up to me is
I used your guide when I built my first PC but they don't really remember my name or
anything.
They just kind of recognize me.
That's cool though.
Right but they probably haven't watched in like three or four years because we don't
really do PC build guides anymore.
I think I get recognized a lot less than you guys so none of the responses really bother
me much.
I also like I'm not on camera anymore so people couldn't really say that they still watch
me now unless it's just WAN Show right.
So like I don't know.
A shocking number of people watch WAN Show.
Yeah that's true.
I was trying to figure this out.
I don't know if I've talked about this on WAN Show yet but I was really trying to figure
out why I was getting so much attention at LTX.
WAN Show.
WAN Show.
Most hardcore viewers are going to be WAN Show viewers.
I didn't necessarily put together the connection between hardcore viewers and WAN Show viewers.
I knew WAN Show viewers.
If people are going to recognize me it's probably going to be WAN Show.
I knew that but I didn't really put together that if they go to LTX they very likely watch
WAN Show.
So I was like oh okay.
Yeah do you have any idea like what percentage of LTX tickets were sold when we like talked
about it on WAN Show.
Oh no.
Yeah it's a lot.
Yeah.
It's not like all of them or anything like that.
It's not like that.
For people the WAN Show format is just too long.
I get it.
I had a...
100%.
This was actually technically someone who was running a booth.
But I had a line form in front of their booth and then when I left I like apologized to
them for making their booth a little bit harder to get to for a little while and like talked
to them for a second and the guy was like yeah so like what's it like working for Linus
Media Group.
And I was like.
It's pretty cool.
He's like was talking to me as if I was like a very new employee.
I was like wow this is this is kind of awkward but I didn't like it.
I wouldn't.
Yeah.
I sort of been here for a while.
Yeah I don't know.
That's okay.
I mean other than that Linus guy is like determined to like crash the company into into the ground.
It's a lot of stress.
Otherwise it's okay.
It just starts screaming more progressively loudly.
The people are great.
I like hanging out in the fishbowl with Dan.
It's really fun.
Oh man.
Anyways.
Oh man.
So yeah you don't think competition?
No I just.
The Steam Deck's just stomping.
I think that I think the Steam Deck is stomping.
Why do you like the Ally more than?
Oh it's way more powerful.
And as a tinkerer.
How much does a Steam Deck cost?
The refurbs are like $329 Luke.
Whoa.
Yeah.
They're like dangerously close to switch light.
That's actually.
Wow.
Yeah and when you consider the cheapness of games compared to Nintendo.
The lifetime cost of this thing is it's way less right?
The Steam Deck is incredible.
I wish it was more powerful.
I wish that Valve had adopted a model of iterating on it more frequently.
The fact that they've decided to treat it less like a PC and more like a console in
terms of its life cycle makes sense.
But I would have liked to see rapid fire iteration.
But other than that I just I think it is so close to most of what people, many people
need that it just it kind of irrelevance everything else at that price point.
Because let's talk about some of the games that you know you're excited about that have
come out over the last year or so right?
Like sure you've got your you've got your star fields you're not going to be playing
that on a Steam Deck.
I've heard it's a pretty bad experience.
You're not going to play it on an Ally either.
Yeah.
So okay whatever.
Oh I see your point.
Even the same class of hardware where you can play older AAA games or you can play newer
ones kinda.
Here's a question.
If you were going to get the premium Steam Deck.
But Day of the Diver.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sea of Stars.
Sea of Stars.
You play the crap out of those regardless of whether it's a Steam Deck or an Ally or
whatever else.
Yeah.
Okay so sorry what you're saying.
The premium Steam Deck.
The premium Steam Deck is pretty expensive.
Would you do Ally or this go thing or would you do premium Steam Deck.
I would I mean I've already told you I would go Ally regardless because I want the extra
performance I also like the form factor of the Ally better I don't like how gigantic
the Steam Deck is.
So I feel like the.
I also like the 120 hertz display.
Hey if I can run the game smoothly I'd like to.
The premium Steam Deck is 820 Canadian.
But because the Steam Deck is so user serviceable you don't have to buy that.
Buy the cheapest refurb you can and then huck a big SSD in it.
A better screen anti glare glass.
It does but you don't need that.
Yeah fair enough.
Yeah it's a little bit better for glare but it's like it's not a night and day difference
you can go back and you can watch the original hands on that we did down in Seattle it's
yeah it's it's it's better but it's not even better in a this is better and everyone
should get it kind of way it's kind of a personal preference sort of better.
So no I don't think that's a big deal.
So yeah if I if I wanted if I wanted the best possible entry into handheld gaming I'm buying
a refurb Steam Deck and I'm putting a big fat SSD in it and I'm calling it I'm calling
it a day I'm going to go spend my money on a bunch of great fun you know indie games
or or or lighter games or older games and I'm going to play the crap out of that thing
because at the end of the day it's not about the hardware here's a counter argument it's
about the games every single refurb Steam Deck is sold out oh really I blame Austin
we bought we just bought one before his video yep they're sold out okay there's three different
what versions 64 gig 256 gig 512 gig they're all sold out damn you Austin Evans also JK
love Austin $3.99 is it even oh yeah it's like 100 bucks less for each that's pretty
significant holy is there is yeah same warranty and stuff wow
even then at $3.99 it's still so competitive yeah love it pretty cool that they have the
iFixit hardware and stuff it mentions another creator oh bloody anyway
so yeah I I don't know I don't know if Lenovo is going to make like serious oh right so
I was going to talk about why I tolerate the Ally it is a it is not an appliance it's a
computer with a controller and a battery bolted to it and it really feels like it and it has
all the same issues that PC gamer gaming has like when I put it to sleep it's most it's
mostly fixed with the latest firmware it's gonna wake up yeah just like just like wake
up sometimes for the for the for the first couple of weeks that I was playing chained
echoes or you know it you you'll go to you'll have like a weird thing where the where it
doesn't switch from controller to to joy to mouse mode properly and you're just like Oscar
it I'll just restart Oh Windows update fantastic yeah okay okay okay it's stupid little Microsoft's
been trying to build an OS for touchscreen since Windows 8 and they still get basic stuff
wrong okay you boot up the system you just want to log in so you you swipe a thing then
you click the field and then sometimes I get it where I have to click the field again to
get the number pad to pop up to enter a pin it's like this is three interactions when
realistically I'm sitting here looking at it it should just be one I should immediately
start typing is little things like that that are just cleaner on the Steam Deck and I think
that there's a possibility that Microsoft will take this space seriously and that will
see you like a gaming you know a handheld gaming mode or we'll see some kind of version
of Windows that's like really optimized for these things but I don't think it's a given
and it's certainly not gonna happen anytime soon valve has put a ton of work into making
the Steam Deck more appliance like more console like and anything running Windows is not going
to be that experience yeah yeah fair enough
okay what are we doing right now topics someone's upset that I had someone referred to Bellevue
as Seattle I love twitch chat I'm just I'm gonna hang out in twitch chat oh man they're
my people professional trolls I want oh wait what are we supposed to be talking about I
think we're still doing topics I think we're done all three of the main ones we just go
jump through some rapid fires I want to talk about Elon Musk demonstrating full self-driving
while filming himself without his hands on the wheel yeah this is pretty wild do you want to
run through it or me I go for it Elon Musk live streamed a demonstration of Tesla's updated full
self-driving beta the car was able to drive almost entirely independently using only cameras and
algorithmic intelligence at one point the car attempted to accelerate through a red light
requiring Musk to intervene but it was otherwise without incident you know running red light is no
big deal however Musk spent the demonstration in the driver's seat filming on his cell phone
and interacting with commenters which goes against Tesla's own policies for using full self-driving
software and I believe also the law Palo Alto police say that will not be issuing Musk a ticket
or fine because the incident wasn't directly witnessed by police so here's what I would like
to understand what are the dynamics that play here because from my understanding whether you
want to talk about let's take some significant events like let's say the January 6 riot I'm not
gonna get into the like politics of it I was gonna do even way more basic things like if you see
shoplifting on camera but there were plenty of people who were absolutely prosecuted to the
fullest extent of the law based on footage and not necessarily someone who actually like a law
enforcement officer observing that individual committing a particular act there is massive
precedent for catching people doing something on camera why does it matter that the person
catching them on camera happened to be themselves people are saying federal instead of local all
this other stuff I don't know how the law works there any chance of adding video oh this is
about federal versus state law yeah this is this is like America stuff that we don't know I think
but like is it like a self-incrimination thing because you like can't incriminate yourself yeah
simple so as long as I film myself doing it and nobody else sees it it's not a crime and something
to remember is I am feigning ignorance a little bit here because traffic code is not necessarily
the same as criminal code in some cases there are overlap so you can commit a traffic violation that
is also criminal but not every traffic violation is criminal if he had actually killed someone
well that's manslaughter now and that's criminal code or maybe potentially actually running the
red light yeah because like think about red light cameras yeah but that's not his camera that's like
their camera it's different because of that I don't remember when I'm one of his lawyers argued
that anything that he said previously could be a deep fake therefore we can't hold him accountable
for it that's pretty epic I wonder if that would have been the defense here hey you don't know it's
real footage yeah I mean we faked so much about the abilities of our vehicles why not this maybe
what was outside the window was just green screens and this is all filmed in a studio I just got
myself in trouble nobody said which is highly concerning to be completely honest but I was
poking at the Tesla fanboys oh yeah okay I feel like they have toned it down a lot like they
remember how it used to be when you would point out anything positive okay to defend that
slightly I think that's because people were getting very defensive about electric cars in
general because they wanted electric cars to become a thing and Tesla was like its best chance
of that happening and now that has happened and now it's like oh and now it's like oh man producing
all these batteries is like really hard and there's downsides to things and stuff yeah generating
power in certain places like here it's very easy power is very economical here and quite
environmentally friendly because it's all falling water I also think a big part of it is the cult
of personality around that particular individual has eroded did you see that what was it a Valorant
match do you see this Dan there was there was some form of match that he was at recently some gaming
event Elon Musk yeah and he was spotted in the crowd by the camera people and put on the big
screens and then everyone was booing while he was on camera not everyone audibly the crowd was
booing while he was on camera and then after he was off camera they started chanting like bring
back Twitter or something like that I don't know what it was but it was it was pretty funny that
that is impressive that's gotta be that's gotta suck but anyways yeah you could try blocking them
in real life I gotta say I having had the experience that I did recently I I do feel for
the guy you know doing something that is actually bad and people being mad at you for it is quite a
thing I'm not saying I I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it I'm just saying that I have some
empathy due to recent events I feel empathetic for Elon Musk is a genuinely hilarious statement
I have to that is actually so funny I don't like yeah doing something catastrophically stupid and
having people call you out for it is uh it's not something I would recommend I bet Linus would have
rebranded it to X as well install it on your phone you're gonna take the L that is actually
better branding than what he's done funnier no no there's more there's more in other Tesla news
this week oh no this is not this week so the way that he may have been doing this right this is
why this surfaced again is the Elon mode that exists for hands-free full self-driving this
was surfaced back in June of this year but a Tesla software hacker found an Elon mode driving
feature that seems to allow Tesla vehicles with full self-driving to operate without any driver
monitoring so while he was paying attention it's possible that the way that he was able to so
confidently film himself while he was supposed to be operating a vehicle was by using a not street
legal version of the software which very cool makes perfect sense and should be a thing all
right see if stars all I ask is no spoilers in chat you might just want to not reach out for a
bit because people are gonna hear that and then purposely try to spoil I'm gonna close chat yeah
so there's no point doing it because I'm not gonna see it both my chats are closed boom you're done
yeah okay so then what can we say because I am one of those people who I I am obsessive about
knowing absolutely nothing about a piece of media that I know I'm going to consume I've I read one
article about Sea of Stars it went on my to playlist I think the notes that are in the doc
right now are fine okay I'll read through it yeah Sea of Stars released this week for to a great
deal of excitement given its visual and thematic similarity to JRPGs of JRPG classics of the past
like Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger reviews have praised its maps word building I think it's
world building I like word building though it's probably true enough world building combat
characters music and story and then there's just discussion wow there's not much more than that
all the notes I'm like a big part of the motivation for me to finally pick up chained echoes was that
I've had this list of these you know classic JRPG inspired games to play that's been kind of
building up as some of them have come out here I got it I got to check what's on my list now okay
the discussion questions here are are we entering a better era of gaming and dang tootin it seems
like it I think we maybe have been here for a little bit and it took me until pretty much now
to accept it and realize it because I was traumatized from games for years but yeah I
think things are good I think these are good right now like word the amount of bangers coming out is
actually like crazy in no particular order here are some of the games that are on my I absolutely
must play destroy all humans Dragon Quest 11 play that Chinese game that's basically breath of the
wild that's hilarious genshin I wrote this a lot down long time ago like genshin I probably won't
based on that I didn't like breath of the wild to or rather that it didn't suck me in play
Fantasian which I made it a lot of the way through until I reached like kind of some mobile gamey
stupid like QC issues or like I shouldn't call them quality control did crash a fair bit on my
Apple TV but more like QA like like game testing game testing issues project triangle thing on
switch bravely default to which I have checked off it takes to tie fighter total conversion sea
of stars has been on here since before rise of the third power RFL Titanfall 2 single player
risk of rain to stray oh I played that did you play risk of rain one no I don't know if you're
gonna care about risk of rain to Barrington recommended that I play it with you so I don't
know me make of that what you will reach the future Final Fantasy tactics mod that sounds
cool I've totally forgotten about that that Final Fantasy game for Android oh oh this is super cool
I found an article about this on somewhere and they were like hey remember that Final Fantasy
game that absolutely nobody ever talked about and was basically the very end of good mobile games
it's called Final Fantasy dimensions it's heavily inspired by Final Fantasy 5 is like a like a
sprite pixel art style Final Fantasy game no microtransaction crap you just like buy it for
$14 or whatever it is you play it on your Android device and and then microtransaction hell happened
and that was it that was like that was like the end but it's still out there you can still get it
yeah 3.6 stars it's very true to the older games there's some quality of life stuff but a parent I
haven't played it yet but apparently it's like very old style and maybe not everyone maybe not
dimensions yeah I searched Final Fantasy dimensions the first thing that came up was
Final Fantasy be w o TV I have no idea the next thing is Final Fantasy dimensions I don't know
why it's second and it's rated much more highly yeah what's what's the star rating 4.3 yeah okay
for a mobile app is like that's great local co-op game grounded Max Payne I still haven't played a
single Max Payne game pixel cup soccer Max Payne's good chained echoes oh I'm gonna check that off
I'm on the final dungeon I've played enough of that 8-bit adventures the forgotten journey and
sequel Octopath traveler I still haven't played Octopath this is an interesting list that's my
list of stuff that I will play darn it Final Fantasy dimensions 4.3 stars Final Fantasy
dimensions 2 2.6 stars well yeah I should just you know what I should do is I should just let
the community like order my games I'm not gonna let them pick games because they probably will
have a hard time picking games that I would actually get into and enjoy but if I just like
took my game order and they were just like yeah just play them in this order then I could just
always not think about it because honestly choice paralysis is a huge problem for me
oh I'm back on my old note 9 and I think dude it's also contributing to the interference this
time oh shoot no that was on the list I just didn't say it because you already knew that
one you said order though oh was it on the list yeah did I say it okay I thought I skipped it
sorry fart muncher 69 420 asks have you tried Final Fantasy 6 there are some things I worry
about with you I can't tell if you're memeing or not where I like I've been trying to get him to
watch one particular movie for like actually looking down like 13 years or something yeah
my sister's been trying to get me to watch fanboys you've also been trying to get me to watch hackers
which I had I intend to watch them I really do I just yeah except it's been 13 years the problem
is at this point when he finally watches it it's gonna be impossible for it to live up to whatever
hype this is I don't consider your recommendation that hype and then Titanfall 2 Titanfall 2 is like
I just I don't it's a fantastic single-player shooter game but we've been talking about it
for years now so like I'll enjoy it don't even don't even worry I don't know if it's anywhere
near as good as fear then I'll enjoy the crap out of it and it probably is very different game
but it doesn't have like good gunplay yeah and any interesting mechanics yes then I'll be fine yeah
yeah I'm not I'm not actually that picky it's just you know what the big challenge is is that
it's really hard if you watch it at my computer if you watch blackberry before Pirates of Silicon
Valley I'm actually gonna be pissed what's blackberry good what that's what I'm saying am
I supposed to know what blackberry is not particularly oh my goodness it's my phone for
sure blackberry movie I've watched the social network I watched that before Pirates of Silicon
Valley you like that no the silent one but I farted a Canadian someone said blackberries good yeah
and you know what it like takes a lot of inspiration from pirates of Silicon Valley oh my god anyways
all right oh is that it's the name is the name of the stream on floatplane wrong by a stubby
rune Kyle's day you might need you might need to refresh oh okay maybe I've had it open since
before that oh yeah there we go okay good job Dan cool there we go yeah that was a that was a stream
we ran today every time someone bought a stubby screwdriver it would make a noise in Kyle's office
and then we had a live stream running of his office that was floatplane exclusive apparently
they did some Q&A and stuff on it as well that's cool so that's yeah it's pretty cool it was
inspired by Puget systems when we did the tour there they have like a gong that goes off in their
warehouse every time someone buys a computer which I imagine you know when you're selling you know
three four ten thousand dollar computers they do a lot of really high-end workstations and stuff
there probably doesn't go off that often for a you know still very sustainable you know profitable
company or whatever whereas when you're talking like a $60 screwdriver on launch day it was going
off basically continuously for quite a while there apparently Kyle did not get any work done today
according to floatplane chat that's amazing that makes sense that's okay his work was to entertain
you guys I have watched antitrust by the way good for you I'm just messing with him a lot today
it's been a lot I'm like actually kind of I'm feeling spicy I'm feeling spicy today speaking of
spicy Intel announces a photonic chip with scads of threads scads scads that's that's a metric term
metric scads it's a real unit I don't believe you it's like a moment you know we use it colloquially
but it's actually a real thing that one's actually true though yeah yeah scads is true look it up is
it actually yes no I'm not gonna do it he's gonna do it no he has to now no because no you don't
know unveiled Puma a photonic chip that is based on custom risk architecture with eight cores and
66 threads per core for a total of 200 528 threads modern x86 CPUs usually have only two threads per
core with some with some exceptions such as Intel Xeon Phi which had four threads per core IBM's
power eight which had eight which isn't a modern x86 chip but is a modern chip yeah and Sun spark
chips which went up to 16 which is also not x86 but yeah yeah it's just that we said modern x86
I totally got you yes it's worded weird the chip only uses 75 watts of power and uses 32 optical
IO ports that each operate at 32 gigs per second per direction direction Wow holy crap for a total
of one terabyte per second of total bandwidth there are optical interconnects between chips
so they can be connected together in eight socket server sleds that in turn interconnect with each
other yeah so like optical optical networking like directly to the I forget what tour we were
on I think Riley called this Sam Altman's wet dream which I thought was hilarious we were on
a tour where we were looking at a configuration that had basically like fiber optic connectivity
between were they like daughter boards or something I can't remember man it's escaping me now but it
was super cool they were kind of talking to us about the future of like scalability in the data
center and how as they get fiber optics closer and closer to the actual dyes we're going to see the
lines blur between what is a chip and what is many chips and what is many servers full of many
chips computing unit yeah it's I there are our discussion question here is will this ever make
sense for the consumer prosumer market honestly ever is a really really big word but I don't see
it coming anytime soon I mean both soon I don't think so but ever I actually do think so both
Intel and AMD have completely abandoned even HEDT you're you're running you as in Dan not the
audience you are running like L of M AI stuff at home yeah yeah yeah so you know Dan isn't everyone
in the world currently but there's really cool applications for having your own version at home
that could potentially learn off yourself in the long run we've been on so much right now but in
the long run and also it keeps it more private there's benefits do you think you could see that
becoming a thing what running them at home yeah yeah average people we were really hoping that
there was going to be this breakthrough technology one sec which would basically bring like data
center level GPU production to the home from consumer cards but that ended up yeah not
materializing there's some more development in that space right now when we talked about that
I hardcore called it I remember that conversation that it wasn't going to be possible oh yeah I by
that point I knew it wasn't gonna be possible there's some new stuff that's probably kind of
exciting in that space too so that's kind of not gonna be happening but the 40 90s and these high
end cards that are consumer grade actually perform a lot better than some of the dedicated machining
learning cards that that in video produces the only downside is that you can't squish 16 of them
together into one big GPU they're not super data set yeah from and yeah so that's that's a
disadvantage but it's really nice we're kind of doing it I'm doing it at home more as like the
heights died down now and so now we're learning now we're actually trying to build tools we're
trying to figure out how they function we're trying to understand how they work with GPUs
why are they limited to single GPU why can't that be spread across multiple GPUs why is
inference only able to happen in a single section of VRAM why can't that be segmented or something
like that and learning how LLM function the different types of tunes and models and Laura's
and all the little settings that you don't get to play with when you're using the big boy online
LLM's this this all to me feels like something that is not consumer ready yet how it's in that
niche enthusiasts space actually might actually get to consumers eventually a lot of people have
been producing really really easy tools that you can basically you got a one github page you
download a one-click installer and already lost 90% of people I mean yeah but I mean that is way
easier than building something from source you know what I mean yeah no somebody who's a little
bit computer savvy I mean the the entry point for everybody is just these online websites right
but then you're just playing with them you're not like tinkering right but it's pretty easy to get
going and they run on consumer cards I think we could see this type of tech being in the home for
sure just hell yeah definitely not now and the nice thing is if you're worried about privacy
like I want to play with having a home assistant AI in my house yeah I don't want all the microphones
in my house calling back to Google or Amazon or Microsoft every six seconds so it runs in my
bedroom you know that's the kind of that's the kind of space where I'm really seeing this is
gonna shine Farhan Hadi says Linus it was the IBM tour where they had like eight CPUs sharing cash
between chips yeah they get it all man that was that was cool stuff so yeah if you guys check out
the IBM Z tour that we did man IBM reached out recently they want to work together again because
they were like thrilled with how that video went but honestly I I was thrilled with how that video
went too but I'm a little bit worried that so much of what we were able to say the first time around
is going to be redundant the second time around because Z moves slowly and that's kind of the
point right is that they are they're cutting edge but in sort of a lumbering big iron giant
icebreaker style kind of way getting into unfound territory but you're chugging yeah and so I worry
that if I were to go do it again I'd be like what is Z for the same thing it was for last time but
this one's even more wild and better but then maybe I'm underestimating them maybe I'm gonna
show up and they're gonna be like oh yeah but you know what about this so who knows I was just I was
blown away by the kind of cool stuff they had just everything from their you know custom memory
modules to those optical interconnects and stuff super cool yeah yeah I think we have like one or
two more topics and then it's after dark yeah I think so I mean YouTube offers amnesty for channel
warnings yeah YouTube is going to be changing their community guidelines policy so that creators
can get violation warnings removed from their channel if they complete an educational training
course on YouTube's content policies if creators complete the course and then go 90 days without
violating the same policy again the warning will be lifted according to YouTube more than 80% of
creators who receive a warning never violate policies again of course many of those creators
were inappropriately flagged and never violated any policy to begin with and we're not really
sure if that's reflected in the numbers but would still have to take the course even if they were
incorrectly flagged our discussion question here is why doesn't YouTube fix their policy
ambiguity is an inaccurate moderation and I know the answer to that the answer is that if they keep
it ambiguous they give themselves more flexibility in terms of enforcement that's the answer that's
always the answer unpopular opinion they might need that everybody wants super clear guidelines
Oh for things like okay so here's something that a lot of people don't know this is like inside
baseball YouTube has engines that run internally that analyze thumbnails for whether or not they
are clickbait did you know that no yeah so they will rate a video's title and thumbnail for how
clickbait like they are and this includes all kinds of factors like the expression on the face
and what objects are in it and similarity to other clickbait thumbnails and when I say clickbait I
mean the actual definition of clickbait which is baiting someone into clicking something that they
otherwise wouldn't I'm not talking about you know effective packaging that is clickable for something
that you know is similar to you know what the thumbnail was where the thumbnail is representative
of the content I'm talking about like the old school like Phil DeFranco thumbnails with the just
like boobs in them all the time clickbait right so so YouTube has systems that will analyze
thumbnails and determine how clickbait they are and they give creators general guidelines like oh
if you were to do this that would be an example of something that would possibly be treated as
kind of click baity at least initially you know if they find that it's quality piece of content
and people who click on it are quite satisfied then that will d rank it in click baitness but
these are things that might get your content kind of flagged as possibly clickbait but they
won't tell you exactly what those things are for two reasons a they're always changing and B and
that's by design and B if they tell us exactly where the lines are there's going to be a
significant proportion of content creators that are going to go and that's the way that it is
whether it's community guidelines or whether it's you know clickbait analysis or you know
whatever it happens to be or whether it's you know a a spiffing Brit you know hack the platform
you know exploit like whether it was a polls and polls in community posts or you know whatever else
it is you know they're always looking for ways to to open up exploits and close them and it's
always changing the sands are always shifting and that is 100 percent on purpose what else we
got today not a ton okay let's call that is think it's time for one show after dark sure sounds good
Dan do we have any possible hope of getting through all these merge messages well if you
start going through the potentials why I take a while to stand up and turn off the light yeah
maybe I couldn't help noticing that it's been a bit of a day for merge mess I didn't even notice
how I think I'm just just in the zone I'm just capable of this now just rocking it it's just
been this for so many weeks my fingers are fire I had a new I had a new keyboard made that you
can't even hear anymore it's awesome oh yeah I tried every single keyboard that we had in the
building I mean it's just it looks like a normal keyboard it really does it has new switches I was
expecting to be very impressed by you but here right next to the mic keyboard we can't see what
you're doing oh he's the sound it's just the sound that means not the camera this is a video
pot oh my god wow you're upsetting it okay there we go this is uh this is my voice for comparison
what are the switches I have no idea did ploof recommend them or something I don't know Matt
made it he killed it it's awesome okay that's sick oh yeah I was getting up do for the potentials
oh sure yeah sort of the top sure I'll start but oh my I did took me that long to scroll past
incoming there's a lot we might be boned okay well I'll just curate that one oh crap there's
okay there's not that many that he actually curated okay so that's good we might be we
might be okay here Dan okay Jan Michael asks what feature would make you want to upgrade back to a
slab style phone you know what I think I'm just at the point now where I appreciate the pros and
cons of everything iOS Android that the deal breaker for me for iOS is not being able to
sideload apps if Apple addressed that which they might with some of the stuff that's been going on
with the EU if Apple addressed that I just don't think it would make much of a difference to me
because every platform has its pros and cons and honestly I feel the same way about folding versus
non folding there's issues with folding phones there's advantages to folding phones we actually
have a video coming that's just ten things that are just plain better about folding phones and
it is not a video about things that are bad about slab phones it's just a video about things that
are great about folding phones and I guess I just see it that way across the board now I'm going
back to the note 9 there are some things that are bothering me my Wi-Fi chipset seems to be kind of
flaky like I can't connect to 5 gigahertz at home even though I can connect to it here and every
other device in my house can do 5 gigahertz at home I'm using the same access points at home
that we are at the office which is really wild so like there's some issues and it's it's slow it
definitely feels slow now but it's been fine it's been totally fine actually Luke I want to get your
take on this hmm I had a plan to do a two-part video series where the community picks a phone
for me okay so part one I lay out everything I've liked about every phone I've ever owned and
everything that I have disliked about every phone I've ever owned so I basically I walk into a
wireless wave you know like a like a like a chain mobile device store so I'm I think so but basically
I'm I'm role-playing as someone who walks into a mobile device store I lay out my needs and then
I basically just give it to the community and I take whatever the top-up voted devices I use it
for a month and then I come back and I basically go you guys nailed it or you guys got it totally
wrong or okay so I came up with this idea when I dropped the fold in the pool before that happened
I had apparently reached out to the fair phone folks my fair phone five review sample arrived
today which should I do should I let the community pick a phone for me to use for a month or should I
just review the fair phone for a month or or should I mention in that video that the fair phone
five is totally an option and I totally have one and see if they just want me to try that one maybe
that I like I like the fair phone at the very least being an option everyone says both I hate
doing phone reviews now though guys it's such a hassle everybody's saying fair phone but here's
the thing if you do the other option and then just vote for fair phone that seems cool that's
more democratic yeah I think so you're gonna get trolled though if you do a poll that's my one
concern I mean I I actually you know what we've had this conversation and I that that was raised
by I think both Jordan and James the internet send like Taylor Swift to a school for the deaf
or something here's my argument back don't underestimate the fanboy ness of fanboys how
much internet trolls hold on hold on no no I wouldn't I wouldn't but also don't underestimate
the fanboy ness of fanboys think about how eager people are to have someone else try this that
thing they like and phones good lord people are very emotional about their phones and it makes
sense right it's the thing that is with you more than almost anything else that isn't permanently
attached to your body like what is it that you carry more reliably in your life than your phone
I would take if I had to pick between keys wallet and phone I would take my phone 100% of the time
yeah I mean that's you have a lot of your wallet on your phone and your phone can probably you
probably for credit card yeah yeah to be clear I'm not talking I'm not talking for a year I'm
talking about you leave the house you have time to grab one of the three which one is it keys okay
let's assume that you have a way of starting I'm being a jerk you have your car on a technicality
okay well I need to lock my house so I need at least two of them I need to get into the office
probably so I need three of them you don't need a key to get in the office you need your phone
hmm depends what time it is probably you need your phone anyway I think you understand my point
yes so so it's so it's it's one of those things that it makes sense that people are very emotional
about they interact with it more than probably almost any other device in their life right
probably more than their families in some cases so I I think there's a solid chance of both I
think I might get trolled but I think the farthest the trolling might go is they want me to use an
iPhone for a month or something like that like I think people will actually want to vote for their
phone that they love but we'll see you can do whatever you want Karen I though that polls
gonna get trolled yeah I know I believe you I believe every poll gets trolled it's a rule the
internet I mean we're gonna lay out at least some ground rules right like I'm not gonna use a phone
that's not compatible with modern networks like that's just stupid so yeah like I think we we
could we could lay out a ground rule like it has to support a reasonably modern version of Android
or iOS like I'm not gonna use an iPhone 3GS that I actually have work to do like I have a life so
yeah yeah you're right people might troll but it would be within reason I mean it'll have to be
then we'll lay out rules I mean if we lay out those rules that I already gave it has to support
at least the last couple versions of Android so it can't be anything super old and it has to support
the latest version of iOS losing like it might be that bad yeah yeah like people might find some
obscure thing but I mean yeah maybe that would be interesting like there's tons of Android phones
out there that you've never heard of from brands that in some cases you've never even heard of the
brand like did you know cat makes phones like the like yes tractor company I don't know why I
knew that but yes yeah there's there they're super cool some of them have built-in thermal cameras
actually pretty sick from FLIR like actual like proper thermal cameras in them yeah I have one
that I keep at home just because like occasionally we'll be doing a shoot at my house and it's like
we need a thermal camera and we don't have the big one it's like ah yes but we have something which
is better than nothing people asked if I gave up on the fold 5 I never switched to the full 5 I
decided it was too much hassle and kept my fold 3 which I then promptly dropped in a pool so I've
been using my note 9 you there was just a long delay between filming and releasing that short
circuit because of our production delay all right all right shall we get into these let's do it I'll
try and get through them nice and quickly let's see where we've gotten them moving down any plans
to make a plushie motherboard and case to go with the plusy CPU and GPU no I think the novelty kind
of wore off for people on the plushie CPU it doesn't sell that well anymore so we have some
stuff coming we have a plushie VR headset oh I saw that yeah that's awesome pillow nope oh not
practical at all ah it's the VR headset for people who get nauseated by actual VR okay all right yeah
it comes a little plushie controllers it's a portable cave the first versions of the
controllers were very phallic well it's the stitching you see because the handle comes to
a point and there's a cross stitch right there yep yep it looked like a p-hole ah and the fact
that you put your hands on them like this really didn't help mm-hmm look yes can we get a bg3 update
Baldur's Gate 3 update an update they want an update I guess did playing yes yeah yeah I don't
know I don't know what to say it's it's great it's absolutely fantastic it's we'll see how
star season or star field goes in the long run but it's potentially my game of the year absolutely
amazing game Larry and should be extremely proud if you haven't played it yet I'd highly recommend
it it's a beautiful work of art what is the maddest you have gotten at a pet what did they
do Dan is not a pet I mean not to you I guess walk Wow Wow Wow not to me either to be very
clear you might be to someone you don't pay me enough what died that's not but that's not my
point I'd not say I'm just saying some people's relationships I don't judge I don't shame some
people have a certain dynamic I'm just saying that we don't know we don't know I think I've
ever gotten that mad at my pets I have trained them well I've had very stupid pets before so
like I mean okay okay I I used to get really mad at my goat because she would get out because
she's a goat yeah and my parents said if she gets out anymore we're gonna eat her I remember this
story yeah so like there was a lot at stake sir yeah I know I did that they're a little small to
make stakes you don't make I've got a story it's not actually being mad at my pet but it was being
mad and it had something to do with one of my pets but when I was growing up both of our dogs
were getting to a very advanced point of age so we knew it was kind of coming but my parents told
me I had a hockey game and this is like pre online schedules right so you're like writing down
information you hear from your coach so I was like man I really don't think so but like okay
so I like it's kind of sudden and weird like there was no like they tell me the night before or
anything and it's like okay it's kind of like a weird time of day and like nothing really seems
right but I throw my gear in the in the van and my dad and I go drive there and we get to the
hockey arena and it's like abandoned and I'm like what and it was a diversion because they
had to go put one of our dogs down and he was trying to like I did not appreciate that I
understand what they were trying to do they have since apologized I understand that they were
trying to do it over the kindness of their hearts there was no malcontent there was none of that
stuff going on malicious and delicious intent there we go close yeah but I yeah I mean look I
can vouch that Luke's parents from everything I heard and seen no I wasn't I wasn't even gonna
say my parents I was gonna say good people yeah that's more than just being a good parent they
from everything I've seen they are good people and sometimes good people make mistakes I hated
that I hated there's very very few things my parents have ever done that I would say that I
hated very few I can't even think of any others at all but I hated that sucked yeah and I get it
too because like there's that whole thing you hear when like it feels like your kids are aging super
fast and maybe if I was a little bit younger maybe that is what they should have done but at
that age like I kind of like I felt like I needed to experience that if that makes sense I needed to
be there all that type of stuff so it sucked but like I don't know parents are gonna screw up
sometimes like it's fine it's it's fine it just it just sucked we had a really dumb dog that didn't
recognize the difference between just like running around in the yard and his family being attacked
and couldn't seem to figure out even though I still lived there that I was part of the family
so whenever I would like run around with my little brother and like like you know or even like play
fight with them or whatever he would like misunderstand in a big way which is like what
a few dogs it's weird they'll horse around with each other and they'll play fight with each other
and they're fine if you play fight with them but the second you play fight with each other as
humans they don't like that yeah so he so he would get like very aggressive with me and once
he bit me so hard he broke skin and I still have a scar on my leg from it so I was I was pretty mad
about that I was like makes sense I was like sir you need to stop I'm sure that's how you dealt
with it yeah um sir sir you're biting my leg sir yeah well the thing is like he it was a funny
thing cuz like he he knew that I was definitely in charge of him cuz like when I yelled at him
about it he like got it immediately and was like whoops and there's something we've talked about
before sir so you know he knew but he just is just kind of dumb and would get kind of like riled up
and yeah very stupid very stupid dog not very trainable by the way like I've I've I've seen
the spectrum we were not good at training I will tell you that much like just a family with five
kids you're gonna get a lot of inconsistent signals for a dog and my parents had very little
interest in animals other than their function on the hobby farm right like that so yeah but we
saw I've seen a very smart dog and then I've seen a very stupid dog and basically same environment
some dogs just need more attention I do think the potential for trainability is often higher
than people think but it takes time if you ever met basil I promise you you would change your tune
I've ran into a lot of people's dogs that they said that type of thing about and have had more
success than they've had literally killed by his own stupidity yeah I do remember that story yeah
that's basil I don't know yeah not a genius yeah um anywho yeah but like my my parents have a chihuahua
yeah no I know not known for being particularly smart knows tons of tricks all this kind of stuff
but my mom's also like an award-winning dog train yes and all this other stuff so it's like yeah yeah
it can be way harder I can totally agree with that barely knew his own name and trust me we like
tried on that one most dogs will figure out how to come when they're called like even if you are
a pretty incompetent trainer that is true he was kind that one not the one that bit my leg yeah
no the this or this dumb one was he was very kind he absolutely meant well with absolutely
everything he did but he couldn't do the right thing to save his life he was just a very very
stupid animal yeah anyways moving on when will we get the when DLL pickle to go with the banana
for scale is that what these are these are cucumbers no that was for you to take home and enjoy with
your family their dens no no no no I meant that in a sweet way not in a weird way Dan's mom grew
those and they're very nice no stop it stop it no I stopped what I'm looking at stop it now do you
want the big one or the girthy one I mean I'm just holding both of them in my head one of them's
for Luke oh stop it do you want to touch my pickle I'm sure you could go on Luke grab it
oh he jerked it right out of my hand going over here it's safe over there stop stop thank you
Dan you're very welcome I hope you enjoy it they're very good what do we do Oh God I have
a job a high DLL still patiently waiting for secret shopper three are there fun April Fool's
videos ideas that would have been funny but you had to scrap or could you describe the
brainstorming process for April Fool's videos I have a couple I'll just delete them from my
dock when we're done because I think there's there's probably at least a couple that I can
share with you that are just realistically never gonna happen oh and in response no I haven't
finished painting my bike so it hasn't turned out I will get around to it I think the shop
that was working on the disassembly like got busy for the summer and I had sort of told them when
they took on the job like I didn't really expect them to work on it in the summer because it's like
a kind of big project and kind of a stupid project so maybe we'll get back at it very soon and then
I'll get the painting going over the winter and then maybe write it next summer LTT prep schedule
no what is what is this where's the video idea tracker doc hello buddy see this is what I'm
talking about this phone it's like I pressed back on this document yeah there you finally
saw it change yeah video idea tracker LTT this is the one oh my goodness I click this doc like
three times and it's she's thinking she's thinking about it hello there we go all right it loaded it
loaded this it is a pretty massive doc in fairness all right April April Fool's oh okay this this
idea I came up with back when that that CPU walk in the rain video was sort of fresh on everyone's
mind so it's line 102 in this document out of like 900 lines this is just like a general idea doc so
it was gonna be a parody of like nature walks except I'm walking around in nature spotting
stuff like servers and CPUs and computers you know kind of throw in a little good like a David
Attenborough yeah yeah yeah yeah the wild you know CPUs are frolicking you can see them oh what's
going on now we've got a GPU coming in yet like so somewhere between David Attenborough and like
crocodile hunter kind of thing yeah yeah that's that's obvious that is ranked as a D idea D is for
doom scroll so if you want to just kind of doom scroll crap ideas and look for a little bit of
inspiration that's uh okay what else we got this is really funny I'm gonna hold on to that one oh
this is really funny we might do this one hey Luke what do you think of this one kind of in
the bottom quarter are your eyes good enough to read that I guess your close-up visions okay are
you down it'd be a lot of work wow that would be amazing but yeah that would be an immense amount
of work this was kind of this was a fun one I don't think we'd ever do this with wait aren't
there people there well if they were ever not there it would be funny I could be really funny
this one April Fool's idea Intel extreme downgrade we go to someone's house and take $5,000 worth of
stuff I like that leave them with like the arc Jersey holes in the wall just like oh yeah that
would be pretty entertaining this is a good one we create the a canator you know that thing that
guesses celebrity names oh yeah but that it but it gives out tech tips and then except it's just
a massive BS dialogue tree that always spits out the answer have you tried turning it off and
turning it back on again okay I've given you guys enough that's already some like kind of B plus a
minus material said that one we should have just done that on one of the websites that's fine yeah
it's okay we got lots of good ideas don't worry every time people are like you guys are out of
ideas I'm like you have no idea we have so many like smart talented creative people here there's
no there's no shortage of ideas there's a shortage of time to execute them there's no shortage of
ideas Jane wants to do I could use the down get rid of my stuff please just take it too much crap
okay moving on with the excitement of a new Bethesda game I wanted to ask what was the worst
bug you have encountered in a video game I mean worst is like if it just doesn't launch yeah I
don't I don't that's one of my things with Bethesda bugs is they're usually just funny
non progression is always really frustrating not funny yeah oh I know the worst for me okay do you
I mean I I was just thinking of the time I got really deep into Final Fantasy Tactics and I
happened to build my main character as like kind of a lightweight like he wasn't wasn't big D he was
like a support class so he wasn't heavy DPS and he didn't have a lot of HP and you get to this
stupid fight with I think we graph or something like that where he one-on-ones your main character
until your main character can unlock the door to let in the rest of your party and I would just get
one hit I couldn't even get across the room and so because I didn't because I didn't follow
you know retro game save protocol and have multiple water falling saves or whatever you
would call that like I didn't use all my save slots and then overwrite as I went I just I there
was no equipment and no class changes that I could make to him to survive this and it was a
non-progression problem it's not really like a bug but it sucks I have I have two one of them I
was playing XCOM Iron Man or whatever it's called where when people die it's permadeath and you only
have one version of the save of your game so you can't like save scum to get someone back if they
die it's like a hardcore version of XCOM this was years ago and I got to the very final mission
and for some reason opening the door to the boss's room would crash my game 100% of the time I tried
it on different computers I tried it on different versions of windows I tried everything could not
progress from that point so I just watched a let's play of someone beating the game and was like
all right I guess that's it because I wasn't gonna play through the entire thing again because
it removes all your previous saves you only have one save so I was just like okay I like I I made
it here OMFG mine 2 killed me yeah yeah so I I guess this was like a thing I don't it's been too
many years I don't remember like if I googled it it was the thing or not but like yeah I couldn't
get into the boss's room and that was that was really disappointing because that was felt like
quite an accomplishment and then the other one was outer worlds outer wilds and outer worlds came
out at a very similar time outer worlds was an amazing game I loved it there's one room if I
open the room the whole game crashes and I've tried it different GPUs I thought it was a driver
error for a while I tried different GPUs different versions of Windows different computers
everything again nope doesn't work and it's just like man I've never gone back to the game I really
enjoyed playing it really good game but I got a non progression but I was just like okay I like
Joe's answer Tarkov is one giant frustrating bug that is accurate yeah I can't I can't bring
myself to play anymore I think the cheater expose actually just like broke it for me so I don't
know they had a wipe I tried playing I think I got like a couple hours into it and was just like no
there's also too many other good games I didn't even mention this one we've been talking about
good games battle bit yeah battle bits awesome yeah Alex Clark was telling me that I like need
to play it and I was like how it's really fun it's all the good it's all the things that made
battlefield good back in the day yeah it has like weird roblox graphics but I mean at least they're
able to develop it more easily yeah it's pretty cheap this runs amazingly well this is what I
talk about spreadsheets games are just spreadsheets if the game is good it doesn't matter what it
looks like yeah right yeah totally agree absolutely it can look like whatever but the core loop is
there and the progression is there battle bit is fundamentally fun it's fundamentally a good part
game I that's where enjoy it this is my core tenant when I do games is aesthetics don't matter
and it pisses off a lot of people because they don't understand that it actually really does
matter but if the game isn't fun to play it's not a game yeah bad yeah I'm like if battle bit looked
better that would be sweet tell us how you really feel Dan but like I used to play Eve online I
don't get to have comments I did to you did you like to watch movies what's it like playing Eve
online well you watch movies I've seen a lot of movies I played like back at og days so there was
no I only had one monitor and all that kind of stuff oh yeah yeah yeah I also played more
recently but anyways anyways moving on Linus how have you been liking your ecobee thermostat I
don't care about anything smart home I just want to be lazy and control my thermostat from my phone
they keep disconnecting from my Wi-Fi it's super annoying I don't know that that's necessarily the
ecobee's fault but what I do know is that getting them reconnected is kind of a pain in the butt if
I go and I just key in the password and click connect it won't do it I have to go get an iPhone
not an Android phone I have to go get an iPhone and I have to go through the connection process
on the iPhone and then it'll work every time so that's it's clearly one of those for Apple users
first and for everyone else I guess you exist as well products from from my experience with it when
they work they work great but you know it's probably not helping matters that their integration
with Home Assistant is kind of clunky and the way we're working with the way that we're using them
is kind of hacky so I think out of my nine I think it is six are still connected over the summer while
I haven't been using them because I only use them for heat so I have to like get a few of them
reconnected and blah blah blah first time stubby screwdriver buyer I mean yeah they are new I'm in
search of high quality socks to buy while waiting for the LDT socks to release what's your go-to
sock brand darn tough don't ask Luke's it's not as good icebreaker they're not as good I like them
I know you like I need to write that down I didn't say you don't like them I said they're not as good
objectively like our materials person was like how the F about the darn tough socks they're like
really amazing I don't know that having more materials makes it more better it's not the more
materials it's it's like the designers the composition of them they're just like amazing
the the she she was saying that there's maybe a handful of machines on earth that can weave like
that if anyone knows anyone who works at darn tough we've had a heck of a time we would love
to just co-brand with them at this point rather than trying to make our own socks because I'm
just I'm unwilling to put a sock on the store that I can't stand behind and now that I've
experienced darn tough socks I just can't enjoy anything else Luke can he likes his icebreakers
and I'm really happy for I've also never had darn tough socks but I do really like my icebreakers
and my icebreakers are a lot better than the demo prototype pair of socks that I tried on yeah yes
they are they just are yeah so those were an early version of ones that we were trying to
come out with and just I'm happy we didn't go forward with those to be honest because yeah I
know I know they weren't they weren't good enough we we kept trying the end to be clear there's lots
of different versions of socks some of them were probably better than what you have but none of
them were good enough and oh yeah something to note is darn tough socks are super expensive
they're like 20 US dollars a pair so I'm not necessarily really expensive to you I don't know
how much they are but yeah I'm not even recommending it hurts it hurts to buy I'm just saying they're
really good I mean if you're gonna wear them for like 10 20 years you know that's one of the things
with why I bought these is because like I had a previous pair I bought one pair for hiking back
in the day and I still have that pair and I bought those I think eight or nine years ago
and they're still great literally wore them yesterday so yeah I don't know and to be clear
no literally right now I'm not if you're not even necessarily talking 10 years with them but the way
that I wear through socks like I could wear through those like stupid champion Costco ones
they downgraded them significantly the old ones were really good and then the the ones that they
have now or at least the last time I looked at them are garbage and I would wear through them
in like maybe five or six badminton sessions I would have a hole in the big toe or even like in
the whatever the I don't know what is that it's not the heel of the foot it's they like here the
ball in the ball of the foot from sliding from friction arch you talking about with your your
arches the ball of the foot okay so behind the toes yeah behind the toes but before the arch yes
yeah like seriously five or six wears whereas darn tough I can get easily like 25 to 50 they
do have a lifetime warranty but it's good for one time so you don't just have socks for life
but given that I know that I will wear through every single one of them the cost is effectively
$12 per pair of socks and they're really comfortable and they're really breathable and I don't have to
let go replace them all the time which is annoying Christopher s says Luke would you be interested in
a Boeing factory tour the answer is yes if so hit me up I have no idea how you want them to contact
you though so I curated this but I can archive unknowingly because I don't like Twitter that's
actually the easiest way okay yeah so you can hit them up on X yeah or that thing I guess yeah
it's gonna be one of those things where I start out calling it that because I'm meaning and then
it'll just keep going and then I just keep doing it like gifs no no Jeff is just correct deal with
it hi DLL from the UK Luke as a fellow CTO do you have any examples of where you have changed or
added a process and been surprised by the impact it had made on productivity good or bad with the
CTO had I don't think I've really been in it long enough to do that the main thing we've been doing
is like oh my god look at the state of everything we're actually working on potentially prepping a
video for you guys for the writer people of like wow this was the state of infrastructure I thought
of this idea because he's off probation now but I don't know if he wants me saying his name
publicly but the new IT guy oh yeah we should ask because I'll ask I think people would be like
pretty you really you know if yeah actually yes that'd be cool I'll make sure I ask him at some
point but he pulled out I believe it was it a switch did yes it was a network switch that is
correct it was an old water-cooled networking switch what was wrong with that oh you know it's
like probably the most corroded thing I've ever seen in my life and was also out of water corroded
yeah he unscrewed the top of the rez and then smelt it and apparently almost threw up oh and
that was running in production boys it was sitting behind Andy's desk for the entire time I've worked
here someone probably put some extra water in there and maybe some bio side at some point I'm
scared to unplug it if you don't turn off equipment like that so we're gonna see if we can find more
things in that realm that'll probably be the headliner because that's pretty amazing but yeah
I don't know I don't have a great answer for you because it's been like a low amount of months at
this point but yeah sorry I don't know longtime fan first time merch messenger I'm visiting
Vancouver next spring and was wondering if there was any badminton updates to share my local court
is outside and closes in October Vaughn and I realistically do not have time to run that
business so we're we're really hoping to we're gonna we're gonna cast out the net again and we're
hoping to find a really solid applicant who basically wants to just kind of run a badminton
center business and I get to play there sometimes yeah that that's it that's about where we're at
right now we're gonna have a lot of questions where like it would be highly beneficial if it
was someone who had literally ran a badminton center before because we were trying to forget
like like what software solution do we use for like online booking and stuff and there's a
billion options yeah it's amazing how many options there are because every Pilates studio has to
handle the same kinds of bookings things so of course there's like a zillion software as a
service companies for you know all these zillions X you know some factor like yeah martial arts
studios and and you know fitness and dance and like ribbon education whatever gymnastics like
and a lot of them have really adversarial business models and like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah it's yeah it's kind of not great but oh well next up using up some of that alpaca wool
Linus and Luke have you seen sanctuary shattered Sun it looks like it's going to be the spiritual
successor to supreme commander yeah the devs actually reached out to me a while back and they
were they were at a kind of fundraising stage and I I basically said like look I I am a very
interested in the game it everything I've seen out of it looks amazing but I don't know anything
about the gaming industry compared to what I know about the hardware industry I I wouldn't really be
able to be like an activist investor I wouldn't really be able to like open any doors for you or
anything like that I was also fresh off of the investment into framework so I wasn't really
looking to throw more money into a furnace because at that time that was really how that felt not
because I didn't love the mission but just because I didn't have a lot of faith in the mission since
then man I've told framework I'm like I we talked about this on wan show so I told them yeah the
community is down so if you guys like need more money I'm potentially interested not that I really
have any right now because the badminton center but you never know you know if the timing if the
timing is right you know maybe there's something but with sanctuary shattered Sun the timing just
wasn't good but the game looks super cool it's like kind of like you said spiritual successor to
Supreme Commander but with a lot of new quality of life improvements should be way better
performance like Supreme Commander doesn't really support multi threading so when you've got like a
couple thousand units on the field unless everyone has a 13 900 K you are having a pretty bad time
and I'm exaggerating a little bit but you one player in an eight game in an eight game a play
excuse me in an eight player match that has a subpar CPU is going to slow down the simulation
speed for everybody because all the combat is physics based every projectile flying through
the air is simulated as opposed to just being like a dice roll so it's pretty heavy yeah I I'd be
super I'd be I'm right I'm ready to play it I'm very excited was wondering if you guys ever had
any trouble with the USB reset bug rise and used to have or still has both my systems have
constantly crashing USB sadly made my mind to leave AMD for good also stubby sorry I just
accidentally archived one where someone suggested putting the kids in scouts we haven't they already
have too many activities as for the AMD USB bug oh you didn't archive that I curated it oh alright
well there's the answer now I'm archiving it no I haven't had trouble with it personally at least
that I know of I've encountered some other really frustrating AMD bugs there's a sleep bug on thread
ripper that just makes your CPU excuse me makes your system blue screen when your CPU is not doing
anything specifically when your CPU is idle it's like as if I didn't feel abandoned enough on this
platform already AMD thank you very seen I've had it lock at 1 gigahertz before for ages and you
heck it just can't do anything frustrating but no I haven't seen this particular bug enjoy your
stubby screwdriver though hi Linus and Luke how long would you say a flagship system should last
with regards to being able to play the latest triple-a titles at max settings this is a really
interesting question I curated this one because I wanted to talk about how that is unfortunately
just not how it works and I'm gonna I'm gonna use game consoles as an analogy here it's kind of like
asking how many years should you get out of a game console before it's time to upgrade there are so
many variables that are going to affect this time frame that are completely outside of your control
and that you cannot predict nobody knows when the next game console is coming nobody knows how long
developers are gonna keep releasing games for it past its successors release date nobody knows well
I guess yeah those are the two those are the two biggest factors and then on the PC side of things
nobody knows what your tolerance is for lowering settings maybe to you high is max settings as a
whereas for someone else maybe it's ultra maybe to you if it doesn't run at 4k resolution it ain't
worth whereas maybe to someone else well they're more than happy with you know higher detail levels
but at 1440p or at 1080p maybe you're comfortable with using AI upscaling whereas maybe they are
like native resolution or bust so it's one of those questions that is so personal you could buy
a top-of-the-line system okay right before a new generation okay if you bought a top-of-the-line
system right before Nvidia launched the 30 series you'd feel like you got ripped yeah like they came
in stomped all over 20 series for performance we're really aggressively priced at first yeah
and then if you bought a 3080 TI or something like that or I forget what the actual launch lineup was
a 3090 if you bought a 3090 at launch man you are sitting tight still you are still playing
everything so it's hard to say whereas if you had bought yeah if you'd bought a like yeah if you
bought like a 10 series top of the line you got a long life out of that if you bought a 20 series
top of the line I mean it was fine but was really superseded in a big way by 30 series and then if
you bought a 30 series you're like sitting tight all the way through 40 series so it really depends
and it also right it also depends on what's going on more broadly in the gaming industry like all of
a sudden we're getting all these super heavy titles that are pushing 30 90s 40 80s to their
limit right well why well it's because we're getting all these games that are developed to
run at 4k 30 on a new generation of consoles and as PC gamers we're expecting them to run at 60 or
120 FPS so all of a sudden PC gamers are going wow man this card that ran everything for all
these years when everything was designed to run on the Xbox one X or the PlayStation 4 all of a
sudden it's being pushed to the limits like yeah because there's next generation games that are
coming out by the truckload right now so I don't know it's totally up to you I'm afraid I do think
that now is a pretty okay time to buy prices have fallen in a big way I hope that I hope that the
basement for GPUs is going to be lower but CPUs are pretty darn approachable right now especially
with how cheap RAM is like platform upgrades are pretty pretty good right now and yeah GPUs there
are some deals to be had and hey there might be some new stuff coming that'll be pretty attractive
as well Linus as someone in the business space what are your thoughts on the value of staying
loyal to an employer versus chasing better positions externally I think that anyone honest
is going to tell you that you are going to want to at some regular interval at least consider
whether your current situation is the right one for you we do it as a company every year we meet
with everyone and before we do that we meet with the exec team to kind of reevaluate to rethink to
go okay is LMG the best place for this person who we want to retain if it might not be how do
we consider how to make it be and I think that people should be having those same thoughts on
their own at least that cadence if that kind of makes sense I do think if the if the answer is
that you might want to go elsewhere depending on the reason I would make sure that you have
that conversation with your if if if you would like to stay where you're at I'll say that yeah
that gets over the depending on the reason part if you would like to stay where you're at but
you're feeling it's not working out for whatever reason I would make sure that you're having those
conversations internally I can't speak for every company but you know anything is a relationship
at the end of the day of some sort it could be a toxic relationship it could be a frosty
relationship but it is a relationship and if you want a frosty relationship like it like a cool
one like you're not close ah yeah but if you're in a relationship and you have any desire whatsoever
for it to continue communication is key yeah so both sides should be you and you might want to
stay there but that company is just you know they're they're unable to meet the what you need
and that's just life that happens sometimes yeah or it could go the other way around sometimes yeah
I think one of the only one of the only really wise things that I learned from the actual big
boss at NCIX the smartest thing I think he ever said to me or the most I'll put it this way the
most perspective changing thing he ever said to me was nobody stays at the same company forever
it was when I was on my way out the door already I was I was quitting I had made it clear that I was
I intended to leave and you know he he tried to renegotiate once and when I basically said firmly
no I am this is my intention option a or option b I either go to a competitor or you sell me the
channel we work out a deal he basically went okay and we and we moved on he didn't linger there and
I kind of I asked him later I was like you didn't like count her off for more and he's like well
nobody stays at the same company forever or like nobody works at the same place forever and it's
like it was it was really perspective changing for me because I had never really thought about
it that way to me NCIX was the only place that I had ever really enjoyed being that's really true
and it's actually just like actually not it is broadly pretty true on average people change
careers like every six years common yeah yeah it's like broadly pretty true very few people do that
sure the exact same very few companies even exist long enough for someone to spend their entire
adult career like a helpful thing for him to say to not take it like personally on departure
because I don't think he necessarily should because yeah yada yada yada but people do it
was a way of saying it was it was a way of saying yeah that it's not personal and relationships end
and that's okay yeah and it's time for both of us to move on and that's okay yeah um and so yeah it
was just it was just it was perspective changing for me because NCIX was my first real career job
that I felt like like I worked as a lifeguard and I worked like painting houses but I was
I was doing odd jobs I didn't have a career at that point and so you know for me it was actually
probably a more traumatic breakup than the other way around like I loved that company in an
irrational like fanatic kind of way I like I learned about computers on their community forum
you know yeah and so I um and so yeah you know to have him kind of counter once and then basically
just move into negotiations with me on how to move forward it was like I just I I don't know
I don't know what I was expecting but I I I think part of me wanted them to want me you know like I
just yeah like I said I loved that company um and I I don't think looking back on it that that was
necessarily at a healthy level I think that you can believe in a company I think you can believe
in a mission I think that you can really enjoy the people you work with whether they're your
reports or whether they're your boss or whether they're your peers or whatever else um but I think
that the way that I had bought into the brand there was not not necessarily great for my career
I mean for me though the experience of working there was I think really different from a lot of
people like I was a strong negotiator on my own behalf and so you know I would hear other people
complain about not being paid enough there and I was like I don't know I get paid a lot um
I don't know what to tell you other than like generate more value and then go ask for more
money because that's what I did and it worked out great for me but like not everybody not
everybody takes that approach and not everybody can also doesn't work out for everyone at every
workplace no 100 percent things like that you might try that at your workplace and basically
just get shown the door I don't know right so you know my experience was my experience but it
doesn't necessarily translate anyway I yeah I still you know I still uh it's less now you know
having taryn here helps but there's still some days when I'm like oh yeah that was a
that was a cool team you know it was a cool team howdy lld I didn't like it what oh ncix
yeah they treated you like crap yeah yeah cool team my butt that's okay you're a cool team now
yeah it wasn't taryn's fault my team's cool yeah your team's super cool howdy lld I installed GPS
and automation on heavy equipment dozers graders and pavers any comment about these seams coming
apart I really like the jacket but I can't have it fail when I'm working oh which jacket is this
I assume it's the uh it would be in the order the working jacket uh let me check oh uh there's
a drop down nope it's a stubby screwdriver and a jerry rig everything knife um I assume
you're talking about the workshop jacket if you have any problems with it I know there's a couple
of reviews that mention that issue if you have a problem with it trust me bro we got you contact
customer service they will get you sorted out and if they don't then you can link them to this
wancho segment and they will get you sorted out what's next uh what is an out are you asking us
or are you asking yourself nope I don't know where am I uh what is an outrageous tech related
conspiracy theory that you've come across um an outrageous tech conspiracy theory where do you
even get these um people send them in from your website I know where you get them from
oh man I mean is it the nanobots and the vaccines like our that's kind of that's a that's a tech
conspiracy theory it's not exactly um it's not exactly a new one the chemicals in the water for
the fraud microchips in the covid vaccine were like a thing yeah I don't think that's what he's
talking about um I don't think there's a time nvidia doesn't care about gamers anymore that's
outrageous no I'm just kidding that's like totally there's some like are your cell phones constantly
listening to you because of the uh suggested ads and the cell phone companies say that those
suggested ads are not based off that some people have experimented and found that it's like I'm
I'm not sure if I believe that yeah I've seen experiments that lean both directions
um but yeah I don't know I kind of think they do I don't know
in regards to the copyright discussions with twitch streamers a few weeks ago how do you
guys feel about media share okay I had never heard of media share until reading this uh until
reading this message but I looked it up and if it's what I think it is it seems really cool um
viewers can send you songs when they tip you and you can choose ones you like
so the media has been paid for presumably somebody has been compensated and you play them on stream
that just seems super cool seems cool yeah it's kind of it's kind of like if there was a way to
mute the background music track of a youtube video and just play music out of your own library
that you like as a background track you're basically like contributing your own soundtrack
I don't think that would be to the content that you consume no it wouldn't be I'm just saying it's
it's like the the the there used to be a feature in games you'd have like the the jukebox in the
game or whatever it could access local files do you remember that I do remember that that was
actually really cool and there are games now where you can buy music like especially music games like
beat saber there are ones that license a certain number of you know a tier a tier titles I think
that's really gone out of fashion now that there's been some uh some lapsed uh licensing and then it
has been complicated for that game both for streamers and just for the game to continue
being sold but um that was kind of cool when that happened looking forward to getting the new merch
I am curious if the team has ever thought about creating a board game or not if you could make
a board game what would it be that's the problem that very end bit a truly creative engaging board
game is like a full-time job oh yeah it's candy land like it's very hard to make yeah like it's
not the kind of thing that I would just be like her her let's make a board game it's like basic
let's skin the game of life and just you know you've used luke and linus as the characters and then
the careers are like youtuber and like data center you know I really like like a strategical very
difficult co-op board games okay but those exist so like it's not like that's a new idea yeah I
think that's the other big part of it is have we even it's like um are we contributing anything
I I've talked about this a fair bit right like if I was going to make a game it would have been
crosscode or chained echoes or from what I've heard sea of stars yeah why would I make that
when people are already making that and I can just play it for $39.99 or whatever like compared to
how much I would have to invest to make that so it's the same with board games like why am I gonna
contract someone or hire a team or spend a bunch of time on it when realistically I don't have
time to play all the amazing games that other people are already creating um yeah that's one
of those ones where I'm just happy to let somebody else go be creative and cool and I'm just gonna
enjoy it I wanted to chime in and ask luke if he's made any decisions about a new phone yet
I have the same phone and I'm very curious to what you'll pick next oh I don't know if I'm gonna be
able to get away from pixel so I'm probably waiting for this what October for the launch of
or the announcement at least I don't know of uh the pixel 8 pro um that's where my head's
currently at but I don't know I I've had a lot of frustrations with my last couple pixels
but every time I start looking into another phone I start looking into the
os that happens to come with that other phone and I'm like uh there's certain things that I really
like about a very stock android experience um with the pixel features on top of it and no I
do not want to get a pixel fold um so yeah probably pixel some some flavor of pixel 8
I know I said pro um but I I'm yet to see the prices for things and that might influence stuff
um jake dane says talk to me tuesday so I mean maybe that'll influence my decision um
yeah I I I'm not I'm not decided but I've basically time-lined myself uh because my
my phone was on top of my my clothes when I was swimming at linus's place and I had a black shirt
and my black phone was on top of my black shirt and I picked up my shirt to put it on afterwards
and it flipped off and it smacked into like the the stone steps near your pool and the screen
cracked so it's like it's on its way out it's still usable but it's like it's it's time to like
plan for a new phone you know um the screen separated a little bit from the body and it's
cracked slightly um so and it's like getting like marginally worse all the time so I think by the
time october comes around it'll be like I need a new phone um but I'm pretty sure I can hold out
until then but yeah I'll talk to I'll talk to jake about it we'll see what he says howdy from Idaho
you have talked a lot about some of the stress and trouble that can come from owning a business
but what's your favorite part of owning a business people people are the worst and hardest part of
running a business and they're also the best and most rewarding part I think I've said that before
but like the reason why I like my current job is just because I really like my team there isn't
like anything particular about my actions of what I do in my role that I'm like I love that I do love
seeing the output of all the people on my team that's really cool because I feel like I have
some amount of like micro contribution to all of it um but yeah it's I I really like my team
any thoughts on different colored stubbies I'd love a yellow one if it sells really well
then we already have most of not just the molding I mean obviously with the molding but
we already even have parts shot like here Luke can you throw me that yellow screwdriver and a stubby
please so if you look at this we are only one molded part away from making this yellow
the end cap is the same the selector ring is the same the accent ring is the same so all we have
to do is take shot yellow selector rings put this shaft on it on the ratchet mechanism and then we
just have to shoot some yellow ones of these the problem is that there's minimums in terms of the
runs in terms of ordering the dyes for the plastics in terms of what is just practical for
us to keep track of for skew count at our third-party logistics company so we're gonna
have to see stubby sell well in black which is the most popular color and after that is proven
then we might look to explore different colorways whether it's like a Noctua or retro or yellow or
different solid colors or whatever the case may be I could see us doing now that we are have kind
of gotten the hang of working with these plastics and we know that it's reliable and it doesn't have
to be hot press like it is to spec with the cold press even if it's not quite as gripped on it's
it's it's very very close so knowing that it would be easier for us to stock parts and then
and then build drivers from them so it's possible you would see more limited time drops from us in
the future but that's still very much TBD. What's your opinion on the EV industry switching to Tesla
chargers? Do you think they will further solidify Tesla's position in the market? I don't care which
one I actually don't care it could be the the the the the four one the Tesla one I don't care
I'm just glad that the industry has made a freaking decision and the momentum is swinging
away in particular it's not like Tesla and everyone else and if we can if we can all do that then I'm
happy. Multiple standards for things like charging outlets is really bad we saw this in the phone
space where you had to have a different stupid cable and different stupid hookup or adapter for
every stupid phone and it sucked and I'm just glad that whoever wins I have no horse in this race
I'm glad it's over or that it hopefully will be over at some point and I'm saying this as someone
with a Taycan with a not Tesla standard charger so that'll might be inconvenient for me at some
point on public infrastructure but I'm just I'm just glad that it's not going to be like this
forever. Hello LLD my SO wants the new TV above the fireplace our current is placed up there
what can I say other than it's too high compared to where we sit there are other location options
uh heat can be bad for the long-term reliability of the TV
and also it's too high for where you sit
he's really passionate about this there's a whole subreddit for this have you seen it Linus
you know what you should do oh yeah take your SO take your SO out to the movies
go straight to the front row sit down with them go go early so you're in an empty theater go
straight to the front row sit down with them in the front row put your arm around them grab grab
kind of grab their arm and then like lean back together be like isn't this great and when they're
like no you'd be like okay so we need to talk about where the TV is mounted there I got you
uh I don't know who curated this I don't care uh it just says stubby me daddy
uh I did not that may have been a misclick then okay well it's getting broadcast all right thank
you Jake uh hi dll it's 2050 and you've just finished writing your autobiography
what is it titled mine would be I couldn't help myself
just like Jake D thanks Jake D um I thought it was um
a very optimistic title that I just thought would be a really cool uh title for an autobiography for
a tech person um but I think wouldn't be appropriate for me that I came up with was be
iconic because icons oh yeah like if I if if it was like a Steve Jobs level character like a
Wozniak or something like that well not Wozniak someone with like a strong personal brand
so like a Steve Jobs um I could see that being like just a really cool title I don't think I
have a particularly strong personal brand I think we've seen plenty of evidence for
that over the last little while I do my thing and you guys tolerate it let's go um but yeah I think
I think that'd be a super cool name I have no idea what I would what I would call what I would call
mine I don't know I don't even I don't even know if I'll ever do it it would be less of an
autobiography and more of just like some some text diarrhea on a page and if you enjoy it then
cool I um I don't have a good enough memory I think to write something truly autobiographical
then again I'm not convinced most people who write them do I think you could do a decent amount of
recall if you watched old videos and used that old video to try to center your mind in that time
but that would only be professionally I wouldn't remember everything that I thought or went
through personally I've gone through I've I've looked back at old videos and in watching that
video have remembered like oh I'm wearing like that shirt hmm or I from that concert I went to
or or I did my hair in some weird way or I was standing in hey weird I remember this orange set
that used to be in the studio that had like a world map and a ladder like why the heck do we do that
oh that reminds me of the meeting that we had with these other people that didn't work at the
company and the reasons why we thought that was going to be good and that ties now I'm remembering
those other people and I remember hanging out with them and like it it kind of branches repeatedly
um I don't know like you might watch an old video of yours and see that you're like super tired
and remember that your your first one used to cry a lot and it might make you think like oh maybe
this was like at this time when these things happened and it like it just like I don't know
I find stuff like that can spark memories really easily I feel like what's really interesting to me
about something autobiographical is the the the details the anecdotes and I feel like that's what
I'd be missing a lot of lose a decent amount of that I don't remember almost any of like my kids
things like I don't remember the first words and stuff like that it's somewhat surprising how much
stuff you don't remember I just I I um someone that I know okay you guys remember Ivan right
um who used to work here uh he has this uncanny memory for just like a thing that I said to him
nine years ago or whatever and every time he tells me a story I'm like that sounds highly plausible
I have no recollection that this ever took place and it's not because it's not memorable or funny
or cool or something I just I could tell you the exact model number of some motherboard I had
installed 10 years ago but I couldn't tell you like a human interaction I had I just I don't I
don't process it that way I'm kind of I'm not really a people person which is I think um
a double-edged sword for me
it's like when when when the the merch message about like what's uh the best thing about running
a company and I said the people but then I also said it's the worst thing it's like what's the
best thing about life people what's the worst thing people what is worse than people but what's
better than people you know they're they're amazing they're beautiful they surprise you
you know like it's people are complicated the only sketchy thing I find about your memory is
sometimes when agreements are made oh like about what you're just like don't remember them oh yeah
but I know you don't remember our old like computer agreement but you still honor it
yeah because it sounds plausible so like so it's fine my approach is I just always do what I would
do and I just tell the truth and so if I in good faith do what I would do and I'm honest I've never
actually had it be a problem but it is something that's like been top of mind often is he's like
we'll make some deal and I'm like he's not gonna remember this so like if I if I did like some
really good negotiation or got this through in like some crazy way because of some reason I'm like
but there have been times and you've explained what the negotiation was and I've been like sounds
plausible he'll sometimes be like mad about it but be like okay it's like all right like it is I I
will admit it has never been a problem but it is still something that I like think about every once
in a while like he's not gonna remember this I but it's it's been fine I don't have the attention to
detail to be duplicative that is actually something that don't ask me how but I learned from my now
wife then girlfriend I I do not have the capacity to get away with things because I'll forget
and I will I will say something inconsistent and it's like all right it just it doesn't work for
me so for better or for worse transparency is the way I go and sometimes boy is it ever for worse
last one of the curated I've got for you today who's luke's favorite character in baldur's gate
triple oh um karlak for sure but uh it's an interesting question because I actually like
I'm not a huge fan of a bunch of them but I think I I think that's a good thing I think that's me
yes yeah I do not like all the characters yeah and that's great because there's lots of characters
yeah there's a bunch of characters and the reasons why I don't like some of them it it makes me I'm
like like I don't like this about this person but there's an extremely large looming threat
and this person is potentially very useful for me I think that makes it better I don't want you in
my party and I don't like you very much but we have to yeah we have to be friends it makes it
feel more real it's very very good I wouldn't expect every one of those people that came
together for the reasons that they came together I'm gonna stay vague parties where I hasn't played
this game just like dnd I wouldn't expect me to like all of them all that much how did a
video game do this I found myself I'm out adventuring and then I'm like crap I need
this person that I hate and you kind of have like that that sheepish you know looking at your feet
so much better than apathy yeah yeah someone someone oh my god it is yeah the worst thing
a companion can be is uninteresting yeah and they are all interesting they're incredibly well
written yeah I yeah I mean you you walk up to them and you're like not uh I have to get this
guy so I can min max it's like you know I have to talk to this this is a horrible character and
now I have to make them useful yeah it's a video game they don't they don't really exist it doesn't
matter there's at least one character that I like actively dislike but is still in my party because
I'm like you're annoyingly useful I think I think I know you're talking about every time they screw
up I like they miss or something like that I'll just be like idiot worst you suck get wrecked get
out of my party it's my party sorry yeah but yeah yeah uh uh karlak for sure um easy first place um
after that it gets a little yeah I think I'm talking about gale uh geofig yeah
I hate it you have one job and it's to throw things and they connect with other things
you idiot oh yeah I I really like one of the custom characters that I made
um but in that playthrough I just make sure I have karlak all the time in the in the game that
I have with wendell I'm actually just playing karlak and that's very cool and very fun I like
that um she's awesome I I really disliked lazelle at the start but then as you get to have more
conversations with her and as as you get into deeper conversations with her and stuff she
actually grew on me a lot she's pretty cool I had the same experience I don't understand how they
did that I think it was just amazing writing it was really incredible because you also have to
balance the mechanics of it too because you need her in your party to like be functional and you
have that moment with you you start with her and you're like oh I really hate this person in my
party but I need them to be functional and then as you get better at the game you like them more
and they become deeper and yeah I don't know I don't know how that's just yeah why don't I try
surprisingly attached to the characters in that game it's weird they're very very well written
I told you I had that weird moment where I was looking at my quest table and I was reading like
what to do next and it just sort of said like eh do the thing and I I had this moment of
realization where it was kind of okay so the quest just tells me stuff that I should be doing
not that I have to be doing I can do whatever I want and then it didn't become a video game
anymore it was it was actually I think that's I'm going to branch this slightly and talk about
starfield which is on the table as well I think that's one of the constant problems with Bethesda
games and I was kind of talking about this earlier where people are like oh like I have already
somehow spent 100 hours in the game and I blasted through the main quest and I blasted through all
this other stuff because I wanted to be the first one to hit all these achievement points and stuff
like that and now I'm done it's like okay that's that's totally valid you can play the game that
way if you want I do not do Disneyland like that yeah I don't think it's the if you really want to
extract the most out of it that's not going to be the best way and just kidding you can't do
Disneyland like that they make you wait in line yeah even with the fast pass but um but like
starfield Disneyland sucks they build things into it that make it so that you can skip a lot of the
really valuable parts of the game um and they do that because some people are going to want to
I know people that played Skyrim that did zero that they usually these types of people usually
didn't play oblivion in mormon uh but I know people that played Skyrim that did zero of the
side quests zero of the factions just went straight through the main quest and they were
like that was cool game and then they moved on and I'm like wow like the best parts of that game you
did not play like there's there's a quest that I I don't think most people have ran into but
uh you get drunk with Shio Gorath in a bar and then you go on a drunken night of shenanigans with
Shio Gorath and then you wake up at the end and have to like deal with all the consequences of
the things that you did and it's amazing and it has nothing to do with the main quest in the game
you have to find that by experiencing the world and I feel like the Baldur's Gate there's like
more of it it like makes you experience it in a cool way um which is great but Baldur's Gate
and starfield both of them you gain so much more from those games from letting yourself wander
letting yourself explore and just absorbing in the atmosphere and the writing and the
game and there's so much better how much does Bethesda pay you
that was one of my uh I watched the making of Morrowind movie video whatever you call it uh
and I was determined when I was a kid to go work for them when I grew up and then they uh did
certain things and now it's fine I don't need to go work there okay yeah this was Morrowind era
this was pre-horse armor uh thanks Bethesda yeah yeah uh Linus you want to go through these you
want me to read them what's your what's your plan here I I mean yeah there's only four so
hey there lld the variation of different types of mystery screwdrivers produced will be
5040 that's seven factorial factorial uh do you plan on making more or less than this
I'm interested to know how rare these screwdrivers are um
okay hold on a second is is is that the math what the what the heck is factorial it's been
a while I play too much factorial uh factorial I think is like uh the amount of permutations
that you can create because you have to use one of every single part and there's seven different
colors so it's like seven times six times five times four times three times two times one I
believe if I google that but we could have all of the same but even then if I just do seven times
seven to the power of four that's still only 2 401 combinations how do you do the math for this
I cannot remember statistics I pushed as much as I could from my brain with alcohol yeah
okay statistics is evil um I don't think it's statistics um can someone do the math for us
so there are actually eight colors for one thing um because black is also in mystery
so there are four components there's the selector ring the accent ring the handle and the top the
end cap um and then they can any one of them can be in any of eight different colors theoretically
you could get an all solid color random mystery driver we we don't control for anything we just
grab whatever um so so what's the math on that so yeah it's just eight to the power of four then
right I think 4096 that's what people are saying in the float plane chat and they're more credible
than uh twitch chat wait no someone says 40 000 um 4096 permutations that's got to be it they're
only silver shaft yeah so there's about 4 000 different combinations um we don't plan on making
a specific quantity of them it's just based on what we have kicking around um we'll see how long
they last and it's the same for the colored ones I saw someone ask hey how long are you going to
have the green one my company might want to order a bunch of them and equip all of our tech to order
them now uh we I don't know if we will restock them I don't know what colors we would restock
it all just kind of depends on how they move so if that's something that you want then you do
need to get it how many stubbies have you sold today I actually don't know I can tell you though
that um a few during the show there's been hundreds of merch messages and item number one most popular
is stubby screwdriver I might have a number for you if you would like me to say it uh yeah it's
not accurate though okay because the the it's 411 uh but the dashboard doesn't have oh no the uh the
tally that's been running all night oh uh is it like somewhere in the like three thousand four
thousand range something like that oh wow okay yeah apparently it's just shy of five thousand
so far today that's a wow that's a really solid launch um hey thanks guys for your support um
but also you're welcome it's a solid product you know I'm I'm really confident in this one just
because it's all proven stuff other than we did a new plastic mold for the handle right so it's uh
it's yeah I'm just really proud of the team I think is probably the the easiest thing for me
to say with 100 confidence you know I'm not gonna um I think I think that we have you and I have
engaged in a a fair transaction it's a really good product you're welcome and also thank you for your
business and the team has done an amazing job of bringing this thing to market getting it ready
from time for ltx and then following up with the launch here yep luke dan and linus hello from a
knuck brother adding to my quest of food questions what is your dream breakfast mine is waffles with
strawberry yogurt and syrup with costco breakfast sausages dream breakfast i mean oh i've never
really been a breakfast person because i have like a very averse reaction to eggs um
i i i guess i'll say dream breakfast is something that i don't i'm not they have the calories are
fake and they don't matter then it's going to be belgian waffles with a bunch of whipped cream
and a bunch of fruit you've been to kraus berry farm yeah okay so i've gotten it though what
that's their thing the one time i went for that the one time i went for that reason they only had
raspberry oh all right and i'm not that into raspberry all right it's like the worst berry
and it's also not a berry every once in a while we find something that we disagree about very
strongly this is one of those once in a while you don't like raspberries it's not a berry
who cares it's delicious i'm not that into raspberries i don't like the
bitter rhode island isn't an island what you hate it now
uh yeah i know i'm not that into it i like blackberries
i like blueberries what in a blackberry is a berry now
i don't think it is your logic is extremely inconsistent sir and i'm finding it upsetting
i know i'm just not i'm not really into the bitter yeah i can i it's the sour it's not bitter oh
maybe you have crappy raspberries then maybe there's lots of this is something that i thought
about recently because um dan's mom the person who grew the cucumbers also grows raspberries
and i was mentioning about how i don't like raspberries and i was like but maybe i would
like these because it's very possible i've just had like everything that you're describing you
don't like about raspberries sounds like not normal raspberries don't forget raspberries
like maybe i've just had junk raspberries raspberries don't heap well oh they do not so
this is maybe part of the problem too yeah i'm not saying there's like no chance okay if you get them
at the grocery store they experience with okay so that's the only ones i've ever had you just need
to go like and get to baking and get to use some raspberry farm and eat them on a waffle
that's what they do i was i was also this was also very recently so i was in my like trying
to lose weight phase fair enough yeah um i'll i'll i'll rediscover good raspberries at some point
pretty sure you've just eaten moldy raspberries i don't know if they were moldy but they're
definitely grocery store but they sure weren't good i can tell you that much yeah all right
i answered a bunch of these already uh hey lld what components should be the focus of a music
production pc that utilizes a lot of virtual instruments you answered this i have to answer
this yeah why would we answer this i already answered it i already replied to it okay uh
let me think uh what do they say lots of ram uh really really really good single core performance
from the cpu you also need a secondary pc i card for usb thunderbolt or maddie or dante if you use
the internal motherboard uh the graphics drivers can interact with the usb thing you get clicks
and pops and increased latency uh and video drivers are pretty bad for latency there's one
or two usb chips that are really good uh that's about it i don't know budget goodbye oh wait i
have to continue talking because there's another merch message hey dll something i have this never
happened to me before uh hey dll something i have thought about a lot why do you think companies
focus on pure electric cars instead of improving hybrids oh because plug-in hybrids were really
hard to communicate i've talked about this on the show before but the the volt was like
an awesome car that people who who get it get it and love it and people who don't have it
leave really bad reviews for it i feel like plug-in hybrids got weird yeah like plug-in hybrids to me
before i experienced your vault my understanding of plug-in hybrids were those really crappy ones
early on where it was like basically a really big car battery and like you couldn't actually
just drive just electric yeah so just a hybrid yeah yeah but plug-in hybrids were basically like
evs with a gasoline range extender which is best of both worlds um now even a lot of the you know
like the prius prime for example i think is a stupid plug-in hybrid because it doesn't have
enough range at least for me if you drive a shorter distance it could work great for you
but for me i couldn't commute to and from work on battery which is what i want so that i'm not
burning fuel all the time yeah but what's good about it is like the volt you could just gas it
up and drive as far as you want and gas it up again and drive as far as you want and it would
behave like a really efficient hybrid that whole time um so driving on the actual hybrid mode where
it uses both is like insanely efficient i think dealerships didn't properly understand it didn't
get proper training i think that the manufacturers were not really that incentivized because there
wasn't a ton of profit in it because they had complex drive chains uh excuse me um
train yeah trains train drive chains bicycles on the mind apparently uh complex drive trains
trains in some cases um i think that there wasn't a lot of um i think there wasn't a lot of
understanding about them from a consumer standpoint the petrol heads you know the the
ambassadors of the of the motor world were super not into them they don't sound cool they don't go
fast um and i think it was hard to communicate the savings when everyone wants the efficiency of a
vehicle just boiled down to like an epa rated something when actually with these cars it really
depends how you drive them if you never touch the gas tank you you are going to get amazing
efficiency out of it and if you're one of those people who just drove it on the gasoline engine
the whole time you had it then you're not it's still going to be okay it's still going to be
about like a hybrid so that's good but it's not going to be amazing um i yeah it's sad to me
because i i thought they were super cool just like i think it's super cool to say hey thanks for
tuning in we'll see you again next time same bad time same bad channel bye
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