Welcome to the WAN Show, guys! We are in HD!
Woo! 2013!
I know, right? It's like we've caught up to the entire rest of the internet.
And, uh, actually, yeah, I should be monitoring here.
I don't, oh, well, only one of them is plugged in because we have relocated the entire setup of all the gear and everything,
and we're sorry we're a little bit late, but we did end up sort of having some technical difficulties.
We only forgot one small adapter, which, for anyone who's ever relocated a bunch of tech crap...
One small adapter is not too bad.
It's not bad, and unfortunately I have no tech gear at my house anymore.
It's all at Linus Media Group headquarters, so we don't have anything.
But what we do have is a fantastic show for you guys today.
So if you've been sitting on the Twitch channel, then you'll have probably seen this already
in the video introduction that we upload to YouTube that I normally record...
Locally.
Locally, and then upload, but at any rate, Windows...
Do it live!
Sorry?
Do it live!
Do it live.
Windows 8 is no longer permitted on HardwareBot.
You can't benchmark competitively on Windows 8, so we're gonna tell you more about that later.
Uh, SpaceGlasses.
SpaceGlasses, they're crazy. They can simulate things that you touch in midair.
Are you the only one calling them SpaceGlasses?
No, the link is to SpaceGlasses.
Oh, that's their website!
I didn't even notice.
Like, I was looking at the company name, I was watching the videos about it,
I was like, where did he get SpaceGlasses from?
Yeah, no, they're SpaceGlasses.
Although, what's funny about their company logo, and...
Okay, okay, this is...
Okay, no, let's get to our topics first, and then we'll talk about that later.
But remind me.
Maxwell is rumored to release in Quarter 1 of 2014,
which might make NVIDIA look a little bit scared at the whole Volcanic Islands thing coming out soon.
Because remember, guys, the way that AMD and NVIDIA control information,
if there's a leak, they wanted there to be a leak, pretty much.
They're so tight about that stuff.
So, if they're leaking, hey, we got stuff coming,
it might be because they want to talk about how you should
probably not quite run out and buy an AMD graphics card just yet, please.
Uh, so that's, that could be very interesting.
The graphics war is heating up again.
It's exciting.
Um, speaking of exciting things, if you are Microsoft,
you are either excited or not excited, Steve Ballmer is retiring.
He's giving an awful long lead time.
So, he's saying sometime in the next 12 months, he will be retiring.
Um, but, I mean, that's appropriate, given that they haven't picked a successor yet.
And, you know, it's, uh, you gotta respect the guy for being willing to stick it out
as much as an entire year or more before just sort of leaving them to fend for themselves.
So, we're gonna have more on that soon.
But, before we do that, let's kick things up a notch with the intro.
I will have to lean over here to do this.
So, guys.
Uh, last week was a bit of a fiasco with our whole Squarespace thing, but this week is not.
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You're gonna wanna check this out and we actually have something really cool to show you guys later on
that I have had Diesel the Intern working on throughout this week using Squarespace.
So, we have a bit of an updated Linus Media Group website,
which I think looks pretty good and, uh, took a lot less time than the older WordPress-based ones.
So, uh, guys, you're gonna wanna check that out.
So, without further ado, let's get into it.
HardwareBot bans Windows 8 benchmarks due to our TC issue.
So, basically, if you decrease the base clock and increase your multiplier...
We should start with some background, because not everyone's gonna know what a HardwareBot is.
Okay.
So, HardwareBot, guys, is sort of the governing authority on competitive computer benchmarking.
If you haven't heard of it before, go check it out, hardwarebot.com.
And what they do is they catalogue and give awards to the people who are really at the top of their game.
It's kind of like the, um, the, uh, the fecal standards and measurements,
whatever those guys are in that South Park episode with the giant turd.
So, they oversee all this stuff.
Uh, even if only the kinds of people who, you know, are really into computers,
just like kinds of people who are really into turd size might actually care about it,
they dedicate an unbelievable amount of effort into making sure that everything's fair and everything's on the up and up,
which ain't easy with anything digital, because all these overclocker guys...
So easy to spoof things.
They're tuners and tweakers and geeks and hackers.
And you gotta be sort of fighting that while helping them to...
Anyway, okay, so that's HardwareBot.
So, what's an RTC?
The RTC is the clock in Windows.
So, it's keeping track of time, and if that isn't properly running, things can get really, really messed up.
So, there's a lot of things that rely on RTC.
Backups rely on RTC, benchmarks, some benchmarks, not all benchmarks rely on RTC.
Um, anything scheduled.
Applications can rely on RTC.
So, if you play, like, if you ever played older Windows 3.1 games,
like, I had this one game called Goose, where you were, like, a little, like, tank,
and you're like...
Anyway, it was good. I liked it.
What happened was my family upgraded our computer, and all of a sudden, the tank went so fast,
I couldn't do anything, because that application was not taking time from the system's RTC,
it was actually just running as fast as the processor could possibly run it,
and...
That's a thing.
So, RTC is good.
Yeah.
We like it.
Okay, so the problem has to do with certain Intel platforms and Windows 8.
So, the base clock is how the clock speed of your CPU,
which should not be confused with the system clock that's running,
because that's what was happening in that old Goose thing,
whereas the time for the application was derived from the clock speed of the CPU,
which is totally wrong now.
It's crazy.
It's insane. It should have never worked that way.
No, but a lot of them did.
So, the clock speed of your CPU is derived from the multiplier times the base clock.
So, when you're increasing or decreasing the base clock,
what are we seeing here?
So, what's happening is they're allowing for a bigger time window
by decreasing their base clock,
but then not making their CPU faster by increasing their multiplier.
So, the CPU has, instead of, say, 5 minutes,
it'll have 5 minutes and 18 seconds to complete the benchmark,
and in that amount of time, a lot of benchmarks are like,
okay, how much can you do in this amount of time?
Yes.
So, they give themselves 18 more seconds, but they're at the same speed they were before.
Right.
So, they decrease their base clock, increase their multiplier,
give themselves a bigger window, and then achieve a better score.
Now, to be clear, HardwareBot doesn't necessarily think that this was being intentionally exploited.
At least, that's the official word.
Yeah.
Who knows what they know or don't know.
Yeah.
But, they have found the error, and here's the funny thing,
is you talk to even super knowledgeable people,
like, you know, I was talking to Andre Yang and JJ from Asus,
where my whole thing to them was,
well, changing base clock doesn't really change performance,
and they were like, well, it can in certain cases.
So, for all we know, base clock can change performance in certain cases,
this is true, but for all we know,
some of the perceived improvements in performance we were getting from base clock tuning
might have been because we didn't have a second stopwatch running next to
this other system, and it's as much as a 7% difference.
7% difference if you, like, you can get it higher.
For 6%, but...
Yeah, 6%, you can, depending on how you adjust it and stuff,
you can adjust that difference a little bit.
So, depending how much you're underclocking the base clock and compensating with multiplier,
you can move around how much of a difference it makes.
So, what you could do is, if you were intentionally exploiting it,
you could actually tune it so that you beat someone else by, like, half a percent,
so that it's believable.
Looks reasonable.
But, yeah, very, very fascinating.
And, you know, you look at an issue like this and you get to kind of wonder,
well, who's, I mean, whose problem is it to fix this exactly?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, apparently the changes were made so that Windows 8 could be put on much lower powered devices.
It's a lot easier to run the new RTC than it used to be.
So, different processors and all that kind of stuff can do it much better.
And the thing there is that how easy is it going to be for Microsoft to patch this
when they still have to enable, you know, whatever other devices,
whether it's, you know, super low power Intel Haswell based chips,
or they're probably using the same technology in RT,
so they're going to have to probably adapt it for ARM,
or they're going to have to run two separate clocks.
It just gets really awkward, right?
I mean, the idea of RT and Windows 8 is that, aside from x86 compatibility,
they're supposed to be...
And then, how much do you expect Microsoft to really invest in this, too?
That's one thing that came up to my mind right away.
It was like, okay, it's a whole bunch of niche overclockers, which I love,
but does Microsoft care that much?
Like, they've obviously been moving away from gaming.
But we don't know what else this affects.
I mean, for all we know, this could affect simulations of oil pipeline drilling,
or something like that.
So, if something like that comes in,
they'll get, I think, more pressure than they will from the overclocking community.
Yeah, definitely. The overclocking community is, you know...
Awesome, but not that big.
We love them.
Yeah.
But what can we say?
So, our scheduled guest for today is Locker Gnome,
or Chris Parillo, as depending on at what point in history you've followed him,
or how closely.
You'll have probably heard of him, though.
He's one of the pioneers of tech videos, to put it mildly.
So, I'm just tweeting him right now,
and finding out where we're at on that,
because I don't think we managed to get a test call going today.
So, hopefully we're going to get that going pretty quick.
Just wanted to bring that up.
And our next topic, should we jump right into EA?
Might as well. Yeah, might as well.
EA moment.
We need, like, an intro thing for this,
so that we can, like, really do it properly.
I mean, they didn't do anything bad this week.
They didn't do anything bad.
So, our source for this one is Escapist Magazine,
and, like, you know, they don't know what to make of it.
We don't know what to make of it.
EA offers full refunds for unsatisfied Origin customers.
Now, my first reaction to this was, I was like,
okay, it's Escapist, so they're probably trolling EA,
because EA is offering refunds on Origin, which is free, or something.
Like, I mean, that's the level of stupidity we've come to expect from these guys.
But, no. That is not what they did.
So, it's supposed to be a benefit over, like, physical retail.
So, with physical retail, you buy a game, you try to return it, no.
No, not so much.
Not a PC game, because it has a license attached to it.
But, I mean, a big part of that is because that digital license is,
because, I mean, you used to be able to return games,
back when they didn't have a serial number attached to it,
that was, like, you know, a one-time use Battle.net account,
that now, all of a sudden, the serial number means nothing.
Yeah.
Back before you could return them.
So, it's actually the digital rights that are making it,
so that retailers can't take games back.
And, from my perspective, I'm looking at a digital piece of merchandise,
going, well, hold on a minute.
Why can't Steam give you a refund?
It totally could, because they can remove it from your account,
and that's the only way you have to use this thing.
So, if they remove it from your account, they can take the key back,
and resell that key.
And I understand the, you know, you don't want someone buying a game
to do a speed run of it and returning it,
but I think EA has found a very nice balance here.
So, they're calling it the Great Game Guarantee.
It's only running on EA titles.
Irony!
This is weird.
No, I understand it, because how would you get a third-party developer to...
To take a game back?
Well, what I was thinking is, is you could, you could,
you buy batches of keys.
I think this is how it works, I'm not entirely sure,
but you buy batches, because Steam will run out of keys for certain games sometimes.
So, I think they buy batches. I don't know, don't quote me on that.
But, you have this batch of keys.
If you get returned, you just put that back into inventory and resell it.
Unless the license terms you have with the developer don't allow you to do that.
That's true, yeah.
Which could very well be the case.
That could very well be true.
So, they're doing EA games only.
They are allowing either 24 hours after you first launch the game,
or seven days after you buy the title.
Whichever comes first.
Whichever comes first.
And they're giving you that long to just say,
no, I actually don't like this game at all.
You know, because this, I mean, it's not the kind of thing where it's like,
oh, you know, I'm 12 hours into the campaign,
and maybe it's not the greatest thing ever.
If you're 12 hours into the campaign, the idea is you buy it.
This is to protect you from, oh, it's not compatible with my graphics card,
or like, you know, Crossfire stutters all over the balls,
and, you know, in Crysis 2.
Or it's a bad sequel or something, you don't like it,
and you know right away.
You know, instantly, the idea is you're not stuck with it.
You can get a full refund.
I mean, if it was like a launch day bug,
you could even return it and go, you know what,
I still want to play this game, but maybe I'll buy it when they fix the bug.
And I think this puts the right kind of pressure on the game developers, too,
to stop releasing, you know, day one or day two or day three patches,
because now the pressure's going to be on the EA teams
to deliver a working title at launch,
because otherwise they're going to take returns.
This is going to, I mean, this is going to indirectly make EA,
potentially, a better game company,
because they're not going to be able to just be like,
oh, well, we'll just release it, and then they're stuck with it.
Hopefully it does that.
Hopefully it does that.
It has potential to do that.
One thing that I will see it doing is,
like, I'm not a huge fan of Origin.
Origin in itself is, I guess, okay.
The main reason why I don't like it is because it's another freaking application
that I have to run.
Yeah, Origin plus Battlelog.
Oh, Battlelog.
Oh, Battlelog.
Okay, sorry.
I hate Battlelog.
Don't get me, yeah.
But, like, this makes it look pretty enticing,
because Steam, you have no ability to do this.
Steam has summer sales, and you buy things for $2,
but Steam doesn't have any ability to do this.
And officially, Origin has one selling point that Steam doesn't now.
One, but it still has one.
But that's one.
That's one.
And are we getting, I mean, are we getting closer to digital?
I think this is crazy.
Where digital retail is behind physical retail for customer satisfaction policies.
Isn't that insane?
Where Amazon has a better return policy than Steam.
Yeah.
Come on.
Yeah.
And it has to, a lot of the times, you know, a lot,
for particularly items where there's some actual margin built into them,
they'll even ship a return label for you to ship it back to.
Not only are they not getting your money for the transaction,
they're going to eat shipping back on it.
They're losing money on it.
Yeah.
Whereas Steam, there is no shipping.
No.
They could even make it an automated system.
Apply for a refund within, even if they gave you six hours.
You know.
If they gave me, honestly, I'd be happy with that.
I can usually figure out if I'm going to like a game in six hours.
Yeah, six hours after first launch I think would even be fair,
but EA's gone above and beyond that.
They've said 24 hours.
If you're not going to get more than a full day's enjoyment out of our game,
then we're going to give it back to you.
If you wait until the weekend, play it on Saturday,
and just go for gold, you can beat a lot of games in 24 hours.
Well, I mean, I don't want to encourage people to do that.
No, but I'm just saying.
That's not fair.
It's ballsy on EA's behalf to allow a 24-hour window because of that.
I agree it's not fair, and if I like a game, I'm going to pay for it.
But it's pretty ballsy, and they're going to get a lot of people doing that.
Not that I think it's right, but they're going to get a lot of people doing that.
And that's frustrating.
I wish it didn't have to be like that.
I mean, I'm like gushing about how great EA is right now.
It's weird.
Okay, at the same time, like, Steam's great.
I love Steam.
Compare them to Valve and Blizzard at this point, though.
I mean, look at Blizzard.
Who could be more draconian than Blizzard about, no, you pay, you own.
I mean, look at how broken some of the stuff they've done over the last while is,
and no, you pay, you own.
That's it.
So I love this.
Diablo 3 launch.
Imagine how many returns they would have gotten for Diablo 3 launch.
I know.
It's crazy.
So, like, the pressure's going to be on EA to, like, no, no, that sports game is, like,
you know, going to have the right stats for, you know, whoever.
Anyway, moving into Diablo 3.
Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls expansion is coming.
We don't know when.
No.
But it's coming.
But it's coming.
So this was an article on Joystick, so I'm just going to go ahead and flip over there
right now.
I'm going to zoom in on that there for you guys.
So it was revealed at Gamescom, and there's actually quite a lot of information given
about it.
Let's start with the less important stuff, I guess.
Sure.
So there's a new class that is going to be called the Crusader, so it's going to be
kind of like a paladin, which, it's like, who didn't see that one coming?
Yeah, I was kind of surprised it wasn't, like, in already.
I thought they were going to have more class, anyways.
Well, they were saving it for expansions, I guess.
I mean...
But, like, really?
Yeah.
I don't know.
It had very few classes at launch.
What was it for?
Warrior, Demon Hunter, Wizard.
And Brogue, basically.
Or whatever they call it now.
I don't remember.
Anyway, okay, so they had a few, so now it's like, yay, one more class.
And so there's new endgame content, there's a higher level cap, there's new monsters,
there's a new story act, but this is what I want to talk about.
The new loot system.
Loot 2.0.
They've actually taken, I mean, look at this, I'm going to say something positive about
Blizzard today, too.
Positivity day.
I know.
It's like the good news show.
So the new loot system is going to adapt the drops to be fewer, so your inventory isn't
just going to be full of stupid, like, you know, leg of warts all the time.
I don't even know if that's a thing anymore.
But see, I'm showing my old school mistake.
Oh, I forgot to change back to us.
So yeah, not so full of, you know, stupid stuff anymore.
But it's going to be fewer, better drops.
More tailored.
More end.
In addition to that, something to do with that you might actually want to use them.
Because, right up till now, it looked like, okay, you were just kind of farming gold.
So you could buy things in the auction house.
Which is just like, oh.
Which is like, okay, yes Blizzard, you know, you get a cut out of the auction house sales,
and that's great for you, but it shouldn't, you shouldn't just be buying all the gear.
That takes the satisfaction out of a dungeon crawler.
What's fun about grinding?
Unless there's, like, the thrill of getting the drop,
which is much lower when you fully expect to just be farming gold to buy it out of an auction house.
And how disappointing is it to get a drop that's, like, so legit
and not anything to do with anything you can use.
So now you get to go and, like, sell it.
It's like Diablo 3 Accounting Edition.
Instead of the actual excitement of crawling around and finding that thing.
That's so cool.
I mean, if I just wanted to grind and buy something,
I could go do odd jobs for people in their yards.
I could get a tan.
I could work on my muscles.
And then I could go buy whatever sword I want.
That's basically what it was.
So I think it's really exciting that there's that.
Oh, and the new mystic.
So there's a new artisan that allows you to reroll stats on regular items.
Which is interesting. That's cool.
It's very interesting.
It's like you buy something or you get something and it's like,
oh, this is, like, really good.
But if only it would sort of...
Slightly be different.
Slightly be more different.
Then that would be even better.
So that's, you know, Blizzard doing something right.
Just a really weird combination.
How's that coming?
Talking to Chris on Twitter, he's like,
yep, yeah, we got...
Oh, I don't have Windows readily available.
So he's throwing comms on his Surface Pro
and is definitely working on it now.
So add Linus Tech to...
So don't worry. Don't worry.
Locker Gnome will be joining us.
It's just a matter of getting the technical things sort of worked out here.
So let's move into our next topic.
You want to pick our next topic?
We got Ben Affleck as Batman.
Come on.
Although, as long as he doesn't do the, like,
I'm Ben Affleck and I have throat cancer.
Also, I'm a superhero, like, thing.
That annoyed me so much.
Yeah.
It actually made the movies, like,
aside from that they were amazing
and Heath Ledger is basically, like,
the best thing to ever happen to Batman
or basically my childhood ever.
Well, I can be a man child.
I was like, wait, what?
I mean, that movie particular...
I loved Dark Knight.
Because, okay, so one thing you just mentioned...
We should just talk about how great Heath Ledger is
for the next ten minutes
and just completely gloss over Ben Affleck.
Actually, I saw this on Reddit.
This is, like, one of the only times
I've actually been able to get a newsworthy item from Reddit
because our forum is just too good at the moment.
But Heath Ledger, when he was casted as the Joker,
got a whole bunch of flack
because of previous movies that he had done.
Ten Things I Hate About You is an awesome movie,
so whatever.
He didn't look like he would be able to fit the role very well
because of a lot of the previous roles that he had done,
so he got a ton of flack.
Now, that being said,
I don't think he's gotten as much flack as Ben Affleck, but...
So there's Ben Affleck.
I mean, I understand that Bruce Wayne
is supposed to be a pretty boy.
He's got the chin dimple.
Yeah, he's got the chin...
So we give him full marks for a chin.
I just don't...
That matters a lot on Batman.
I know, but I don't see him as an unstoppable badass.
And that...
And you're gonna put him next to Superman.
So, like, Batman's already the redheaded stepchild
of that particular superhero team-up.
And speaking of superhero team-ups
and redheaded step-childs in Batman v. Superman...
Check this out.
So this was a Vsauce video,
but I don't know if you guys have had a chance to check out,
but I quite enjoyed it.
So there's an ad running here right now, but...
Here.
Oh, wait.
I'm not monitoring it at all, am I?
I don't think it's working.
I have no idea what the audio level is like.
But anyway, the point is, check it out.
It's on Vsauce 3,
and it's What If Superman Punched You?
And this came up in no small part
because of the upcoming Batman-Superman crossover.
And it's like, how helpless is Batman?
Let's go. Batman v. Superman.
He loses.
Because the stupid arguments have been like,
oh, well, Batman can afford kryptonite.
He has, like, kryptonite bat-star things that he can throw at him.
How do you hit Superman with a star?
Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
Like, he's super...
I mean, honestly, that's one of the things
that's bothered me about Superman a lot.
He's too Imba.
How does he...
Well, no, it's...
Well, he's too Imba,
and then he's, like, defeated by his own just...
It's not even, like, defeated by his hubris
or his tragic flaw or anything like that.
It's, like, defeated by sheer utter stupidity.
But, yeah, that's the argument as to why Batman could possibly win,
is that Batman's the opposite.
He always wins by his intelligence and planning and cunning.
You can be as cunning as you want,
but if someone, like, punches so hard
that they could, like, hit the Earth
on the opposite side of the world as you,
and the shockwave that hit you would, like, you know, bust you up,
then... I mean, he's got laser eyes.
But what if he never gets a chance?
Why does Superman never get...
Why does he ever get close to anything?
He should just laser-eye everything.
I mean, he's Superman, so it's not like,
oh, well, his laser eyes might hurt an innocent bystander.
Well, then he should, like, laser-eye the tire of the car
so perfectly...
And, like, reflect it off?
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, there should never...
But Superman's an idiot.
Superman's an idiot.
He always gets in terrible, terrible situations.
So Superman's a dumb jock.
Yeah.
And...
And Batman is the very intelligent, cunning, planning person.
So Superman just runs around...
That's actually Indiana Jones that you were going for there.
You know what? Indiana Jones versus either of them. Go.
What?
Oh, man.
See, Batman always sets up situations.
If he set up a situation with all his blingin' amounts of money
and bought all the kryptonite ever, he might actually be able to win.
But if you put them in a small, closed room and had a fist fight,
which is apparently your description of it,
then, yeah, Superman's obviously gonna win.
Okay.
Now, if Batman is Ben Affleck...
I don't know.
Then we're maybe giving Batman too much kryptonite, is what you're trying to say.
I like Ben Affleck, but I don't know if he fits this role.
Now, he can surprise me, like Heath Ledger. That would be awesome.
Man, Heath Ledger's awesome. I wish Heath Ledger wasn't dead.
Me too.
It's not often that I kind of sit around going,
I wish someone wasn't dead, but I wish Heath Ledger wasn't dead.
Oh, man. I have confidence in Ben Affleck.
I think he can do something. I do like him, but I don't know.
It's not exactly his style of role.
Yeah.
All right, you introduce our next topic. I got a thing going on here.
All right.
One second.
So, Oculus is looking to solve simulator sickness.
Simulator sickness is not like motion sickness.
Motion sickness is when there's all this motion,
but you can't visually perceive things moving.
Simulator sickness is when you visually perceive things moving
and there's not all this motion.
So, it has been giving people a lot of dizzy spells,
a lot of headaches, people have thrown up, stuff like that.
So, they're trying to solve the problem.
They haven't yet, but they are working on it
and they do think that they can grow towards the goal
of at least reducing it to an incredible degree
where it won't be that big of a problem,
because right now it is fairly common for people to get simulator sickness.
Did you get it when we tried out the Omni and the Oculus?
I did not, but you didn't eat, no one did, right?
Out of our group?
I felt a little bit motion sick, but I don't know if...
Like, it was at the beginning and then it kind of went away.
So, I don't think it...
Another thing for us though is that that wasn't fair, we were moving.
Oh, okay.
Because I thought about this.
We were not sitting planted in a chair, we were moving around.
And one thing that people have talked about is
one of the things people have been doing with Oculus Rift
is put out interesting experiments where they'll have people lay down
and then have them like fall in the game.
I see.
And then they feel like they're falling and kind of freak out a little bit.
And that is going to be interesting,
because you're not moving at all, but you're falling.
So, your mind is going to freak out, especially fast movement.
So, if you whip around or if you're on a roller coaster
and you go down and your body isn't moving,
your head is supposed to mess up.
So, we don't actually have the proper...
What I was thinking about with this is that I would join the chat too
and then you could wander through there.
That works.
Okay, sure.
Okay.
So, okay.
On the other hand, this could be great for guys like Virtuix with the Omni,
which is the...
For those of you who aren't familiar with the Virtuix Omni,
it's the omni-directional treadmill that is intended to allow you to
move around and walk around and run around,
sort of like running and gunning with Oculus Rift.
So, if it ends up being that you kind of have to move to use Oculus,
this is going to be great for the physical condition of gamers everywhere
and great for companies that want to make accessories for products like Oculus.
And not that Omni wasn't already legit,
but this just makes it so much more legit,
because if you are someone who is afflicted by simulator sickness,
you can get an Omni and solve that problem, hopefully.
Very, very cool.
Okay, let's do one more topic before we break for our sponsor break for Squarespace
and then we're going to bring Chris Parillo in after the break.
So, go for it.
I've just got one more quick thing to do here.
This is another fairly short one, so we'll try and keep it to that.
ICANN, I don't remember exactly what it stands for.
It's like...
I'll try and find it.
But ICANN has banned dotless domains.
Google was trying to get HTTP colon slash slash search.
No, www.no.com.
And it hasn't happened yet.
There aren't any yet, but they have preemptively banned them.
This is apparently a really big deal.
I personally don't really care that much,
because browsers have this really good ability to autocorrect things,
so it's actually really not that big of a deal.
If you just type in search, it'll find it anyways, and that's dotless.
So I'm not too worried about the exact domain personally.
But apparently a lot of people are.
Google kind of seems to think it's a big deal,
but ICANN talks, so ICANN does.
They are the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers,
which is kind of hilarious.
That's like the driest thing I've ever heard in my life.
I remembered that it was ridiculous,
but I didn't remember exactly what it was.
Assigned Names and Numbers isn't that big of a deal,
but Internet Corporation, I find hilarious.
Okay, you know what?
I've got Chris calling in right now,
so we're going to go ahead and move to that,
and we'll do our sponsor break afterwards.
So yeah, I'm going to add Slick to the conversation as well here.
So here we go. Yep.
And wherever he is. There we go.
Add friend.
And in theory, we should be able to monitor things.
So here we go.
Slick, pick up.
Hey-o. Chris, can you hear us?
I can hear you.
Hey, hey, that's fantastic.
So say hello to the land show, I guess,
and if you could do a brief introduction of yourself
for those who have been living under a rock
and have never heard of you,
that would be fantastic as well.
Hello, world. I'm Chris Perillo,
aka Locker Gnome on YouTube,
although I guess formerly known as Locker Gnome on YouTube
since they've recently switched me over to my real name.
I am officially Chris Perillo.
And if anything, I create videos on a daily basis
revolving around geek culture,
not just technology, but well beyond it.
If I did nothing but talk about technology,
I don't think I would be married.
And, you know, that's a good thing, I think.
I'm happily married and turning my wife into a geek.
We just recently started watching Doctor Who.
I got her to watch Star Wars for the first time
a few weeks back, and we've documented the entire experience.
So for me, it's about living a geek lifestyle
and loving geek culture.
And so the videos that I produce tend to revolve around that.
I'm just going to start out by saying that I'm very impressed
because I have managed to get my wife to watch Star Wars with me,
but she fell asleep during each movie.
So she's actually only seen about the first third of each movie
from the original trilogy,
meaning she's only probably seen one Star Wars movie, sort of.
Ouch.
Yeah, I had explained over and over again
that she would understand so much more about me
and, of course, the jokes that I would make
if she watched the movies,
and that was enough motivation to get her through it.
She enjoyed them a lot.
That is fantastic, and that's very cool.
So for those of you guys who don't know how to follow Chris,
he's available on Twitter, he's available on YouTube.
I think he's probably one of the easiest guys in the world
to get in touch with because if you just Google his name,
there's all kinds of great results.
Speaking of which, Chris, on Twitter the other day,
I saw a fantastic tweet of a picture of you
on the front of a VHS cassette.
Can you tell us a little about that?
Yeah, that was during a brief run of hosting a television show
on a network that no longer exists,
and during a part of that stint,
and this is, of course, back in the day
when VHS was state of the art,
we recorded in an afternoon's time how to use your computer,
and this is right before Windows XP had been released,
and someone found this VHS tape at a garage sale
and took a picture of it.
I got a kick out of it.
It's kind of cute.
I've got a couple of them left.
I guess they're antiques.
I mean, I have VHS tapes, but no VCR in the house,
or maybe I do somewhere.
I don't know.
It could be.
I mean, if you're anything like me, there's probably a VCR,
but it would take you years to find it.
Now, that's the thing about technology is it's fun,
and it's interesting, but it's outdated so quickly,
and it's one of the reasons why, like with my YouTube channel,
I've evolved to addressing more of geek culture.
So like Star Wars is not going out of style anytime soon,
nor is Doctor Who or Lego bricks.
In fact, Lego sets appreciate in value
compared to technology, which usually loses value over time.
So it speaks very much to one of the reasons
why I've taken the approach of tapping into my inner geek
and letting my geek flag fly in social media.
And you know what's funny is not only is technology
more relevant moving forward
from a dollar amount value perspective,
but I've also observed that it's more relevant,
or sorry, technology becomes less relevant from a value perspective,
but geek culture, it doesn't do that same thing.
And what I've noticed is if you check out my YouTube channel,
three of my four top videos ever in terms of views
are unboxings and overviews of a remote control fire truck,
a remote control excavator, and the Parrot AR drone,
even though I'm a strictly computer channel, so to speak.
Yeah.
You know, I had the same revelation.
Some of my better traffic videos had to do with my Lego sets,
the Lego Death Star, Lego AT-AT,
Star Wars, Lego, geekiness, you know?
And I'm like, okay, I need to be more of myself.
One of the things that surprised me the most,
I went down to Science World and they had a huge Lego exhibit
and I started looking around and then I noticed that everyone else looking around
was about as old as me, which was interesting.
And there were some kids there, but the adults were the most interested.
And then you go down to the Lego store in Vancouver
and it's a whole bunch of adults and a whole bunch of kids.
So it's one of those things that you can still enjoy when you're older too.
Y'all got to come down for BrickCon.
It happens in October in Seattle and it is amazing.
It is a Lego, a festival really, but it's done more for A-falls
or adult fans of Lego.
And the structures that people make are just so fantastic.
A scale model to minifigures of the Hogwarts castle
or a full tower or thank from the Lord of the Rings.
Not the official set, but my own creation build.
I mean, it is so incredible to see the creativity that comes out of people
when you give them the right tools.
And the beauty of technology today is we're evolving with Arduinos
and really Raspberry Pis.
Low cost, easy to use, configurable, moldable.
You can make anything that your mind can handle, right?
And you're not limited by the tool set in front of you.
And I look at Lego bricks for as non-tech as they are
in much the same way as I do Arduinos and Raspberry Pis.
They're building blocks.
You can make something.
It's almost like we're coming full circle
because in the early days of electronics and computing,
everything was DIY.
And then things got kind of too complicated
and the tools didn't really catch up
to the point where nothing, it felt like nothing was DIY for a while there.
And then now we're getting back into it
with highly programmable things like Arduino
and with, I mean, some of the cool DIY type projects
that I've seen turned into real products.
Like I had, it's called the O2 amplifier.
And basically these are DIY headphone amps
that are just built by a dude who designed it
and was like, oh, well, I see a bunch of problems
with the commercially available products.
So I'm going to fix it.
Outstanding. I love it.
And then now we're getting into 3D printers and stuff.
Just being able to make your own things
and mess around with your own things is awesome.
This could be the golden age of DIY
because even when you were able to build your own electronics
30 years ago, 40 years ago,
and it would be similar to what you could buy off a shelf,
now all of a sudden what's always been difficult
is housings and tooling.
Housings and tooling can be 3D printing,
programming and all that kind of stuff,
Arduinos and Raspberry Pis, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You can build the thing out of Lesbo,
Lego and 3D printing.
Well, you look at the,
Microsoft talking about enabling 3D printing by default
in future versions of Windows.
That's pretty powerful stuff.
That's pretty forward thinking for them.
Yeah, but the problem is,
is that it's got to be a lot more consumer friendly
and it's just not there yet.
I've seen a few really amazing Kickstarter projects
that would work in theory,
but the issue I have with a lot of Kickstarter projects
that have to do with technology is that
usually the teams that have great ideas suck on execution.
I mean, you look at potentially amazing things
like the Ubuntu phone,
which may go somewhere,
but didn't really make its mark
in terms of community backing.
There's sometimes a disconnect
between the value of technology
and the consumer adoption of technology
and whether or not they actually see the value in something.
Absolutely.
I mean, I know we haven't even managed
to talk about any of our topics on the doc yet.
Oh, my bad.
I know you're a star.
No, no, it's as much us as you
and I'm about to derail us again.
So as much of a Star Wars geek as you are, Disney.
You know, initially I had a knee-jerk reaction and gagged,
but I really have appreciated
the way they've handled some superhero movies
and certainly appreciated the bringing on of J.J. Abrams,
appreciated the work that he's done.
Disney can market, they can franchise,
and they've come out and said they understand
that fans want them to go back to the basics.
Think about the fans at the center of this universe.
Not necessarily the technology that empowers movies
and special effects.
And so I think their heart is definitely in the right place.
They realize it's their game to lose,
and you really can't screw up much more than the prequels.
Although the more I watch the prequels,
the happier I am with them.
So I'm very, very positive
that Disney will treat the Star Wars franchise
better than I think Lucas could.
Okay, but look at what happened.
I mean, okay, I'm going to play devil's advocate
because I don't necessarily disagree with you,
but look at even something that's an original IP
that they have, like Pirates of the Caribbean.
First film, I have no idea
how many times I've watched that movie.
I've completely lost count.
It got progressively so much worse
because it seems like, oh, come on.
Oh, come on.
You're not going to tell me movies three and four
shouldn't have been one movie, are you?
Well, yeah, I guess.
No, I enjoyed four.
I enjoyed four.
I mean, it was different, but I didn't not enjoy it.
I've enjoyed every single Pirates of the Caribbean movie.
I enjoyed them, but I didn't rewatch them
the way that I've rewatched one
and the way that I've rewatched original trilogy Star Wars.
Really?
I'm on the same level as him, actually.
I did really enjoy them.
They're really good movies, but the first one was epic,
and the other ones were just very enjoyable.
And for me, I really felt...
Go ahead.
I found the third one more epic than the first one, I guess,
for Pirates of the Caribbean.
I liked the scale of the third one.
Like, the epicness was there.
Yes, I'll give you that, but it felt like to me
the problem was they broke their own rules
for the sake of epicness.
In the first movie, we exist in sort of a pretty normal world
except for this cursed ship,
and then it seems like it just goes, so to speak,
off the deep end in the movies that come later,
and it's something that, you know,
you look at the really great franchises like Harry Potter.
Harry Potter, for the most part, never breaks its own rules
that it established right at the beginning.
It allows it to...
Okay, so here. Go ahead.
But with Harry Potter, they were going from a script.
They were going from an overall arc,
and I don't know if they expected to do the same thing
with Pirates of the Caribbean
until it was found to be a commercial success.
Okay, so Star Wars,
are we gonna give them the benefit of the doubt
and go, okay, if they're gonna say yearly releases
and big productions every two years,
are they gonna be working 20 years out on a story arc?
I'm guessing they...
Well, maybe not story arc,
but if they are faithful to at least adhering
to the notion of not breaking canon,
then I think they'll be fine,
but the moment you step outside that boundary,
like Star Wars was...
Okay, A New Hope was meant to be a standalone, right,
in the middle of this 12-story monolith
that Lucas had in his head.
In fact, recently at a Star Wars celebration in Europe,
Mark Hamill had suggested that originally Lucas
was going to have the Death Star around forever,
but he blew it up in A New Hope
and then, of course, brought it back in Return of the Jedi,
but originally it was just supposed to be one Death Star.
He had to make changes
because he wasn't sure it was going to be successful.
So I think he violated canon in and of itself
by going back and establishing a prequel
or trying to give you a back story
of Anakin Skywalker and who he was.
But, I mean, I wouldn't have minded
an origin story for Anakin Skywalker
if, once again, they hadn't broken their own rules.
The Force is...
It surrounds us. It binds the galaxy together.
It does all these things. It's mysterious.
It's not midi-chlorium. Come on.
Okay, great. Okay.
So, like I said, that's Lucas' problem.
He broke his own rules.
Okay, but Lucas is not Disney.
And if he issues what Lucas wants,
I think he'll succeed.
So should we be more scared
that he's a creative consultant
or more comforted?
Here's a movie to watch,
The People vs. George Lucas.
Watch it on Netflix
if you're finished watching
Battlestar Galactica and Doctor Who.
Okay. You know what?
I'm even going to put that in my document here.
So The People vs. George Lucas.
I haven't watched it,
although I do have a Netflix account.
I got it with my Chromecast,
so...
Yes, my dogs actually make a brief cameo
at the beginning of the video.
I dressed them up as Darth Vader
and Princess Leia,
but it was a video that went viral a while ago.
Has nothing to do with technology.
That's what's popular.
Again, again, nothing to do with technology.
Again, nothing to do with technology.
Okay, so did you have a chance
to check out some of the things in the doc
that we labeled Locker Gnome?
I saw the entire document
and actually was intrigued greatly.
All right.
So why don't we get into Space Glasses?
I want to hear what you think of this.
SpaceGlasses.com vs. Google Glass.
Do they have a chance?
Do you mind if I actually play this video
for the viewers so that they have a really good idea
of what we're talking about here?
You should.
All right.
Let's play this video
because if you guys haven't seen this,
you are going to have your socks rocked
right off right now.
Boom.
Oh, yeah.
I don't even know if the viewers have audio right now,
but I don't think it matters that much.
Unreal.
I mean, you've got to be geeking out
over that right there, hey, Chris?
You know, it's interesting,
but yeah, let me see the final product
because this is all pie in the sky to me.
It's all shut up and take my money
until you actually use it
and then it's a different story.
You know, that's I think, you know, okay,
I'm going to just, I'm going to pause this now.
I'm going to switch back to,
and let's see if I can do this.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to pause this now.
I'm going to switch back to,
and let's discuss what we've seen so far
because I think that's something that you and I
are very much on the same page about
is that a lot of the viewers don't understand
that it's actually not all fun and games
doing what we do and playing with the latest technology.
You know, I'd say a good three times out of four,
it just doesn't work even.
Well, three times out of four?
Yeah, that's probably being pretty generous.
That's very generous.
I mean, it looks great,
but dude, that's total marketing video.
It's like, wow, amazing.
Total marketing video.
They're also huge.
That was one of the first things I noticed
is they're very, very large and really unsightly.
So I don't actually see that many people wearing them,
especially if they showed the professional environment
where he's shaking hands with all the different people
and they were basically introducing themselves verbally
and through the images that the space glasses were putting up.
But in a professional environment,
do you really expect your boss
to show up with this giant headgear?
So let's talk about the culture of these wearable glasses first,
and then let's jump into Metta's product versus,
and I think their logo looks like meth.
It looks like meth.
It looks like meth. Anyway.
So let's talk about Metta versus Google Glass
and how that's all going to shake down.
So, Chris, do you expect it to be acceptable
to walk into a business meeting even in five years from now
wearing a wearable glasses technology
where other people are not necessarily wearing them?
I mean, you know how stodgy people can be.
Are they going to feel uncomfortable
because they feel like you're looking them up on Facebook
while they're sitting there talking to you,
and is that going to continue to be a stigma
even five years from now?
Well, you know, I've been pretty public
in terms of my belief as far as technology goes.
It's going to be a personal wearable technology like Google Glass.
Technology is becoming increasingly pervasive,
and I think it's a matter of time before a good head-up display
or heads-up display is integrated within eyewear.
The challenge I think you have, even Google has,
in fact, Russell Holly, who writes for Geek.com,
recently attended the, I think it was a Moto X event.
It was Google's own event, and he was told to remove Google Glass.
So Google didn't even want Google Glass at a Google event.
And if Google can't handle that, I don't know how the hell they expect
the average person to handle that.
They have stated, sorry?
No, go ahead.
They have stated, though, in the past
that they don't expect Google Glass to be able to be worn everywhere.
People were wondering, like, how hackable it would be
and all this kind of stuff.
Well, come on.
I call bullshit.
Come on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on.
So let me get this straight.
Google charges beta testers out the yin-yang
to have this product and then says,
well, we don't expect you're going to wear it anywhere, everywhere.
Really?
That's the whole idea to me.
Where's not okay?
And you know what?
If Google, the only, okay, to me,
the entire value of a wearable tech like Google Glass
is that I do wear it everywhere
and that it actually becomes part of my life.
If my smartphone was my tablet, then I would use it occasionally,
the same way I do with my tablet.
The whole point of a smartphone to me is it's always in my pocket.
I can rely on having it if I need to use it as a remote control for my TV right now
because I always have it and it's always charged.
It's like priority number one when I go to bed isn't even brush my teeth.
It's plug in my smartphone and make sure it's charged for tomorrow.
If I am not wearing Google Glass all the time or a similar product,
then it's lost the entire value to me.
One thing I find that was interesting that Chris said
was the charge for beta testers.
That's hilarious.
The price of the product is going to be so much less
than what they charge to beta testers.
Here's the thing.
I see someone wearing Google Glass, I say,
okay, you have money and you kind of look pretentious.
I know.
It's a social stigma right now
because people are living on the bleeding edge
and I get it and it's kind of neat and I tried it.
I'm very happy to have tried it.
I was invited to the Explorer program
but it was just a little cost prohibitive.
I thought really am I going to get my money out of this
other than bragging rights for having Google Glass.
I just couldn't get past that.
I couldn't figure out how does this fit
and eventually costs will come down,
technology will become more usable,
having it built into prescription lenses.
I wear glasses, happily wear glasses.
I think it will become socially acceptable
but the norms today dictate that permission is not implicit.
When you hold a camera up to someone's face,
they get uncomfortable.
Even if by law you have the right to be filming them at that time,
they don't like it and I don't see people's desire for privacy
necessarily actually changing.
In fact, the more it's been studied
that the more connected people are,
the closer that you jam them in together,
actually the more they tend to try to isolate themselves.
In fact, it is less common to have a nosy neighbour
in an apartment building than it is to have one in suburbia
because people get so close to the point
where they're actually trying to separate themselves from each other
as opposed to trying to get closer and snoop.
Yeah, I just think that people aren't ready for technology
as much as technology may be ready for people.
There are still social boundaries that
a great majority of the population are not ready to have violated.
If they take the camera out and, like Chris said,
are able to integrate it into prescription glasses
that look like prescription glasses,
that's where I'm sold.
I don't want a camera in them at all
because that's just creepy and weird.
I want no camera.
I want them to look just like prescription glasses.
But you just want augmented reality.
Exactly.
You could probably sell me that.
I mean, I've said to you quite a few times,
I am in no way interested in the beta $1,000 stupid thing,
but I am totally interested in Gen 5, Gen 10.
And personally, I don't want a camera.
AR is definitely going to work really well,
but it's not the idea, it's the execution.
And Google has a chance,
but they're already sidestepping a lot of those mores
and expecting society's going to keep up.
And there's one thing that you cannot change with ease,
and that is culture.
Yes.
So let's go to...
Actually, that's a great segue back to space glasses.
And let's talk about...
No, I don't have a segue.
I never got a segue either.
Very funny, man.
So let's go back to meta here.
You mentioned just now Google has a chance...
Oops, sorry.
Google has a chance to make it happen.
Do these guys even have a chance?
Because to me, the advantage of Google
is nothing to do with the glasses themselves
or even to do with the Android operating system
or to do with a camera or processors or anything like that.
It's all about the ecosystem,
which is something that, quite frankly,
is there anyone other than Google or Apple
who could replicate the ecosystem that Google has?
Yes.
YoungD404 in your chat room, I think he can pull it off,
because he just said Chris Perillo
is the best guest on the WAN show ever
with three purple hearts.
Three purple hearts he put in there.
Or she. I don't know.
But I just wanted to point that out.
I think he or she has the chance of pulling it off.
Okay, how about spaceglasses.com?
This guy's going to keep derailing me.
So anyway, I just wanted to say I watched the chat.
I didn't mean to derail you.
No, I think you're right.
I think Google, if anything, Google's got a lot of data,
and that's its biggest advantage over Apple.
Google is a horizontal player versus Apple,
who's a vertical player,
which is why I have a big problem with anybody
who dares try to walk into the Android versus iOS argument,
because unfortunately that argument is outmoded.
It can't exist, because for better or for worse,
there are two completely different market strategies
to the marketplace, just like Windows to OS X to Linux.
I mean, you can talk about operating systems
and compare for feature for feature for feature,
but that's really where the person's in.
So Google has got the biggest advantage
in terms of its ability to collect data
and use that data to their advantage.
And unfortunately, if you're not paying for a product,
and sometimes if you are paying for the product,
you're the product yourself, and that's what Google has.
It's one of the reasons why Google created
the inorganic social network, or I'm sorry,
social layer, Google+,
which I do happen to use on a regular basis.
It was looking to get more data.
You know, Facebook wasn't giving them the data,
Twitter wasn't giving them the data,
and Apple has almost zero data that it's willing to give out.
Yep.
This is true.
I actually have nothing to really add to all of that,
because I agree 100%, and honestly, it kind of irks me.
I was a long-time iOS user, because for me,
iOS was the answer, and honestly,
I still use my iPhone 4 almost every day,
just as an MP3 player and to use a few apps
and try some of the new stuff that's coming out
so that I don't get completely to the point
where I don't even know how it works anymore.
And they're so different, and they're both so good that...
They're different approaches to the same marketplace.
Yep.
And that's really...
It's so difficult to talk about, because for better or for worse,
and hey, I'm a geek.
I'm a different kind of geek, I'm sure,
but people treat technology and their choices for technology
as if it was a religion.
What?
Yep. This is true.
Your life really revolves around this piece of technology?
Like, oh...
Let's talk about Intel versus AMD.
Yeah, come on.
Really? Are we still...
I mean, it just...
It doesn't make any sense.
Protestant versus Catholic.
I mean, go.
You know, Big Mac versus Whopper.
Go.
Okay, well, hold on a second.
I have to defend the Whopper here,
because at least one day of the week is holy in the Whopper religion.
Yes, Wednesday.
When the Whopper gives back to you.
Every Wednesday.
Oh, by the way, datpcgamer asked how old this kid was,
and this kid is 40.
Oh, man.
And he loves both Big Macs and Whoppers,
and you know what, that's okay.
He loves both Android and iOS.
He actually likes Windows Phone, too.
You know what, you guys?
I've got to step in here,
and I need to do a Twitter blitz for Chris.
So we're going to hit one more topic,
and I want you guys to hit us,
at LinusTech on Twitter.
Go there right now.
And, oh, yeah, just a reminder.
I forgot to mention this before.
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Please do.
It helps us out a whole lot.
Hit me on Twitter with your questions for Chris.
We're going to have him blitz through some questions for you guys.
Because, as you've said, he is definitely
one of the more fantastic guests we've had.
I don't want to, you know, diss any of our other guests.
But, Chris, you're awesome.
I've got one question I saw.
I didn't catch who asked it, but Christianity versus i7.
I'm going to have to give this one to the core i7.
Honestly.
You've done a lot for me.
Sorry.
Anyway, I don't want to go into religious
now that I've totally usurped the show.
I apologize.
I bring you back to your regularly scheduled programming.
You know what? No.
We're going to keep the religious debate going.
Because if you can't see it, does it exist?
LG has a new display.
It's what it is.
It's a religious debate.
It's like, no, it's Android all the way,
and anybody who doesn't believe is going to burn in hell.
Really?
Are you serious?
So, wait, you're telling me that I have to live by your choice
Okay, I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with living by your choices
the moment you start paying my bills.
That's right.
Okay, so if you can't see it, does it exist?
The LG display that they are showing off
is a 2560 by 1440 5.5 inch smartphone screen.
Although, we'll probably kind of have to call it a phablet at that point.
Chris, how do you feel?
How do you feel, as someone who wears glasses, no less,
about the race to higher resolutions?
Is this just a dick measuring contest from the manufacturers?
Is it just a fanboyism thing from the consumers
that keep pushing for higher and higher resolutions?
Go.
Oh, hold on, Chris, you're breaking up.
Give us a second.
Let's just...
Give me a second here.
I'm just going to restart the voice chat on comms here.
Okay.
Okay, sorry, give me a sec.
Don't worry, guys.
We'll be back to our scheduled programming very, very shortly.
Regularly scheduled entertainment.
Yeah, which I hope is very entertaining for you guys
because I am definitely having an absolute blast.
Anyone who joined late is like, what, religious debate?
What?
I know, right?
What's happening?
Okay, so hold on a second.
There, there it goes.
There it goes.
Okay.
We almost have liftoff here, guys.
So Chris will be back in just a moment.
As long as we're not dropping frames.
We're still on, right?
Like, we're still live?
Maybe we got hit by the wrath of LG screens.
We're still live.
Okay, so it's not our connection this time, fortunately.
For those of you who are tuning in late,
we're streaming from my house again
because we haven't had a chance to get...
to diagnose with Shaw yet or have a new ISP come in
and get things going for us.
So chat with friend.
Nope, nope, nope.
I'll add you.
You're adding me?
Yep.
Oh, okay.
I can do that.
Because you're still in, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
So go ahead and invite me.
Maybe I can't do that.
Oh, hold on.
I'm still in.
Okay.
Boom.
Yay.
Yay.
So, first of all, let me address the person who accused me
of being a Cylon in the chat.
I am not a fracking toaster.
Get that through a thick skull, okay?
And if you disagree, you and me are going to have words.
Second of all, I think we increase screen resolution.
It's a law of diminishing returns, quite honestly.
And anybody who can see the differences,
they've got very, very finely attuned eyes because I can't.
And unfortunately, they're pushing these resolutions very high.
And that's great.
I love sharp images, sharp text, sharp screens.
The problem is that video processor or just the CPU just can't keep up.
And so you end up with a subpar experience.
And to me, technology in the device in my hand or in front of my face,
it's all about the experience.
Forget the specs.
100%.
Absolutely.
Forget the specs.
I know I'm an outlier, but I believe in specs to a certain degree.
Without proper execution, what's the point?
I've had great hardware in crappy software.
And this to me is exactly why the guys like LG who are releasing this...
Oh, there's the problem.
So I need to use this one, right?
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
To me, the problem is guys like LG who were sort of...
I mean, how much earlier was LG in phones than Apple or Google?
If they got it, if they understood that it's not about the next five and a half inch 1080p screen
and it's actually about the experience,
there would have been no room for guys like Apple or Google to bust in
and carve a niche in this market if Samsung had understood, if Sony had understood.
And that to me is why Google is allowed to exist.
And that is why Google and Motorola may be the one to look out for
as opposed to even Samsung in the long run on the Android platform.
I wouldn't count Samsung out yet with Tizen or Tizen.
How do you say it? Is it Tizen or Tizen?
I have no idea.
Well, you know what I'm talking about though, right?
Yes.
Okay, this is the open source platform being co-developed by both Samsung and Intel,
just to give context for those who may not be aware.
I think Samsung has done more to help Android than Google, believe it or not.
And with Samsung potentially dropping...
Hold on. I got to cut you off here.
Do you mean in terms of market share and acceptance and marketing?
Yes.
Okay, then yes.
Absolutely.
Because Google would seem to be content to let it be for nerds.
Don't get me wrong. I think they're spraying and praying.
With Samsung producing as many devices as it does,
it doesn't surprise me that it has the market share that it does command.
But they're going to be dropping Android.
And Android is just a means to an end for Samsung.
And to a certain degree, Android is just a means to an end for Google.
Open is great when it's a marketing term.
But Google is not...
I don't think...
They haven't been as open as they claim to be or have been.
We discussed this last week actually.
In fact, the whole fiasco with Microsoft and Google and the YouTube app
is really a window into some of the things that are changing at Google right now, we feel.
Well, it's true.
And Google is...
And I think Danny Sullivan put it best.
He called Google clopen, which is I guess...
So they're horses. Clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop.
Yeah, you can say that.
No, more like the words close and open put together.
I know what he meant.
This guy's giving me this look right now.
How did you get to horses?
I had horses as a kid.
Okay, sorry. Keep going.
Is my volume okay, by the way?
Let me tweak you.
Yeah, I love being tweaked.
That's not exactly like a twerk, right?
Sounds hot, right?
I wasn't sure. I'm still not hit with the kids' lingo these days.
All right, I turned you up.
Yay!
So, okay, I think basically we've come to the conclusion that...
Okay, I agree with you 100%.
The race to resolution and specs is not the be all and end all.
I'm interested to see what Samsung and Intel come up with.
However, the thing that I still am not necessarily convinced that they understand
is the experience on the software side.
Intel is not a software company and Samsung is not a software company.
And you look at their entire history of products,
I don't think either of them has produced anything worth a lick
when it comes to software. No offense.
No, I completely agree.
I do not like the TouchWiz experience on Android devices at all.
I think it's completely unoptimized.
Let's talk about Intel Vive if we all want to be old about things for a bit here.
Well, I didn't want to trip too far down memory lane.
Oh, and speaking of, someone just said...
Well, I don't know what it was exactly, but they keep bringing up the Nintendo 3DS XL.
It was released just recently that the Google Play Store and iOS App Store
are cleaning the clock of mobile console gaming.
I think it's just a matter of time before Nintendo has to give up
and start licensing their titles to various platforms.
I get a lot of flack for this opinion.
I think Nvidia Shield is potentially the future.
You know, I don't disagree.
I bought the Ouya and was impressed with the idea of the Ouya,
and I think Nvidia captured exactly what needed to be captured.
Now, whether or not it's going to evolve that way,
I would be inclined to agree.
I think Nvidia did a good job with the Shield,
or as good as could be expected,
but it's got to be something that users are going to think of and grab first.
And I don't know if they're there yet. I really don't.
And that's not to say that a console gamer is better than a PC gamer
is better than a mobile gamer.
They're all gamers, period.
The lion's share of the marketplace, however, are people like me, casual gamers.
Plants versus zombies players.
Well, no, I don't play...
Honestly, video games, I play Tetris.
I freaking love Tetris.
You know, I play casual games, putting monsters.
I pick them up, put it down.
And that is most of the market.
I mean, you have extreme gamers,
and that's certainly a great part of the market.
It's great entertainment.
But, you know, in terms of who's spending the money,
a bigger piece of that pie is not being spent on any kind of console gamer.
That's true.
And new models have developed to take advantage of hardcore.
I mean, in the old model, you got to sell them the cartridge,
and then that was it.
Whereas in new models, like free-to-play,
you can continue to milk those hardcore guys,
so at least it's not a total write-off.
But I think the hardcore guys really overestimate
how important they are in the grand scheme of things
when it comes to companies and balance sheets and profitability.
You know, it's really...
It's interesting to be at this time with technology
and where it sits, specifically in the consumer marketplace.
And even we're there with computers and traditional PCs,
and I've caught flack for my opinion on PCs as well,
saying, you know, they're really kind of being marginalized.
You know, the idea of a personal computer and a PC in general
is just going to an extreme part of the market,
much like you could build your own car, but are you going to do it?
Most people won't.
I've taken flack for that same thing, even from him.
Okay, if you don't believe me, go to Google Trends
and search for the word computer and see how it's trending downward.
People are not searching...
Consumers, 99% of the marketplace, are not searching for the word computer
because their definition and need for a computer has changed.
That eliminates the PC as a viable tool to be used and sold in the marketplace,
which is why Microsoft is getting its clock clean.
And I'm sorry, as much as I think it would help
now that Steve Ballmer has announced his retirement for Microsoft,
I don't think Microsoft's going to change its ways,
if only because the CEO or even an interim CEO
is going to be appointed by the board
and be signed off on by Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, and the board.
So Microsoft's not going to bring in someone radically different.
And unfortunately, this is a hard truth,
but you have to accept that the world doesn't need Windows
as much as Windows needs the world.
And Microsoft's been operating from a completely different perspective,
which is exactly why we have this monstrosity,
this Frankenstein's monster that's known as Windows 8,
or even worse, Windows RT.
I agree with a lot of that.
Well, hold on.
I would make the argument that we don't really have Windows RT
because no one owns a device that has it on it.
Okay, you said it, not me.
I agree with a lot of that, but not quite all of it.
With the new consoles coming out, PC gaming is getting bigger.
Now, PCs as a consumer device, I think, might kind of float away,
but they might become more of a dedicated gaming machine.
Exactly like Chris said.
And we don't need Windows for that.
It's like building your own car, except building your own car if it was easy.
So it should still have more penetration than custom-built, handmade cars.
But we might be looking at the end of the HP desktop and Best Buy being relevant.
Which I have no issue with at all.
And I think that Microsoft, they're hedging their bets,
and I think they're taking the wrong...
Their heart's in the right place.
But unfortunately, they're going to price themselves out of the market.
The Xbox One, they've positioned it in such a way that it's an entertainment console,
which is great.
The problem is, I think the PS4 could very easily take the Xbox 360's place in the family room,
if only based on price.
And just completely eat its lunch.
I really honestly, because look at it.
Unless I'm mistaken, unless they've changed their tune like Microsoft has done in recent weeks,
with just about everything in relation to the Xbox One,
it won't be backwards compatible with older Xbox games.
You know, certainly games available on disc.
The problem with that is, that gives the consumer who was an Xbox 360, you know, owner,
more ability to shift platforms.
Yes, it does.
Why would they give themselves that open?
Microsoft, honestly, they're potentially shooting themselves in the foot by pricing it $100 more,
even if it's $100 greater.
By pricing it so high in respect to their core audience of who's going to buy it,
and that's going to be the 13-year-old kid who's begging mommy and daddy to buy them a game console.
And that 13-year-old kid, if you were like me,
actually, okay, you were probably looking at different consoles than I was,
but I was asking for a Super Nintendo or a Genesis.
I got whichever ones my parents bought.
And if they're saying, I want a PS4 or an Xbox One,
the parents are going to make the decision.
Exactly.
And they're going to base their decision on price.
Nothing else.
Ain't going to be about enhancing the family room,
ain't going to be enhancing the TV or the media experience.
Microsoft has the right idea.
They have the wrong approach.
And you know what, they really had an opportunity with Xbox to,
and it seems like they're kind of taking baby steps in the direction of unifying the Xbox experience
and the Windows experience,
but it should have been that way from day one.
Xbox One, well, okay, Xbox first gen was a PC.
Why were they not able to do something?
Okay, and I'm not saying this would have been easy,
but why was it not possible for them to treat it more like a PC
and not even be sitting around worrying about backwards compatibility at this point?
Because they could just say, oh, well, you know,
don't worry about your back library of Xbox 360 games
because they're all going to run on your PC.
We're going to open up the license now so you don't need a console
or whatever else they could have done to bring those two devices together
and actually converge them to the point where what they're trying to do now
is they're trying to make the Xbox One the media PC
because Microsoft and Intel and you name it has been trying to do this since,
I mean, Google's trying to do it.
Apple's trying to do it.
Everyone's trying to make a media PC essentially.
Yeah, but people don't need it and not at that price.
Exactly, not at that price.
That's the problem.
People will take it at $30.
It's sad because I think the Xbox One is a better media-centered console
than a PS4.
It's not so much a gaming machine as in everything to everybody,
and I would have expected Microsoft to learn its lesson to not do that again.
I mean, Windows 8, they talk about no compromises.
I think the whole thing is a compromise.
And for whatever it's worth, by the way,
I am in chat with you guys right now on my Surface PC.
It's the only way to run the utility.
I'm running right now in classic desktop mode,
but it's something where Microsoft's trying,
but unfortunately they are not addressing the need at a price
where the consumer is going to buy into it.
Yeah.
So you know what?
I don't want to keep Chris for too long here, guys,
and I promised we'd do a Twitter blitz, so we're going to...
Oh, that's completely not the right thing,
so let's go over to the actual Twitter feed here.
So, Chris, I don't know if you're familiar with it.
It's pretty self-explanatory.
Twitter blitz is I ask people to ask questions for you,
and you basically answer them as fast as possible and move on to the next one.
Great.
I'm sure a lot of the people who want me out of this chat
would be very happy with me being quick.
All right.
Favorite piece of technology you've ever owned?
Go.
The Tenorion.
I'm sorry?
The Tenorion.
It was a musical instrument, a MIDI controller that Yamaha made.
It's actually an amp available for iOS, too.
What brands of products do you use most every day and why,
or maybe even just pick like kind of a favorite product you use a lot right now?
God, I go back and forth between my Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 today.
All right, fair enough, and totally agree with that approach.
On Google Trends, the term computer has gone down while PC gaming has gone up,
and I'm going to just interject here.
This to me was a huge missed opportunity for Microsoft
where they abandoned the PC as a gaming platform to focus on Xbox
versus allowing them to be convergent.
So go ahead, Chris.
Hit it.
Yeah, I think it's great.
I think the idea of a PC type of piece of hardware, perfect for gaming,
but it doesn't need to be on Windows.
It could be Linux.
It could be OS X.
It could be anything.
And that shows with Steam moving towards Ubuntu.
Okay, here's just a comment on the dynamic we've got here,
which is great news because I actually already pinged Chris about this,
and we're going to be down in Seattle for PAX Prime.
Chris isn't attending the show,
but what's cool about us being in the same city at the same time
for more than like three hours this time,
which we were a little while ago, but we didn't have time to meet up,
I am going to shoehorn myself into a Parillo vlog at some point somehow,
so we are going to hang out while I'm down there.
Now we can't back out.
Oh, boy.
Oh, by the way, someone in chat said type three for boobies.
I've been pressing three, but nothing's happening.
Tell me what you're excited about.
Boobies.
I was told by the chat room there would be boobies if I pressed three,
and I'm so disappointed.
Sorry, to be serious for a minute.
No, I am married, and my wife is hotter than any other woman on the planet.
You know, it's amazing what makeup can do
because there was a porn actress that was at a hockey game not that long ago,
and the camera was panning past and caught the breasts, right?
And you could tell the cameraman was like,
and her face, oh, man, when she's just out and about and not made up
and on the set, wow, you could grate cheese with it.
In terms of what I'm excited about, I can't wait for the next Star Wars movies.
I can't wait to just experience, just live in the now
and enjoy life every single day.
There's very little that I can say that what I'm looking forward to more than anything else.
I don't know. I just enjoy a lot.
This question is, is 5-inch or 4.7-inch 1080p smartphone form factor a limit?
Now, I'm not sure exactly what this viewer means,
but what I'll do is I'll interpret that the way that I want to,
is for you, how do you feel about phablet,
and are we moving in sort of a stupid direction where it comes to smartphones,
which other than Apple, where it comes to these Android smartphone makers,
which again comes back to that bigger must be better
because we don't understand the experience thing.
Do they need to be any bigger?
No. I think they're nice, but some people love them, some people don't.
I think they're interesting.
I think they're interesting.
That, my friend, is a term that means I don't want to say what I'm actually thinking right now.
Yeah, it's interesting. I'll leave it there. It's interesting.
All right.
We've never been into it very much.
Yeah, not really.
Do you consider the Moto X a better Android phone than the Nexus 4
based on what you've seen so far?
I wouldn't go that far.
I think in terms of consumer adoption, it has a possibility,
although I guess Motorola had to pull back on a lot of customization options
because they were having quality control issues with the engraving the other day.
I think it's a step in the right direction, making it more consumer-friendly,
but I've got to tell you, my Nexus 4 is still my go-to Android device.
All right. Let's see if we've got a couple more here.
By the way, asking me about my size preference is a very personal question.
At least we didn't ask you about your size outright.
I appreciate that, even though I do have a 31-inch Darth Vader in my office.
All right. Well, you know what, Chris, I don't want to keep you forever,
and we've already given the teaser that I've invited myself to your show
at some point in the near future.
So, guys, if you enjoyed Chris, let him know by making sure you subscribe
to youtube.com slash locker gnome.
Make sure you let him know by following him on Twitter.
Make sure that you let him know by letting him know,
and make sure you let us know how much you enjoyed Chris
so that hopefully we can grovel hands and knees to maybe bring him back at some point,
because this was a total blast, man. Thank you very much.
Here's the thing. I've probably lost subscribers now by doing it.
Not to say that you, trust me, you have far more power than I ever could,
but I wouldn't be surprised if I offended anybody.
And if I did not offend you as a listener, if you hate me, let me just say,
I just want to talk to your haters of me right now, if I can.
I just want to say one thing, you haters. I'm on this show, and you're not.
That's right.
That's really all I wanted to say.
Yeah, we were actually, you know what is funny?
Is I PM'd you on YouTube years ago when I was tiny,
and you were like a huge deal to me, to be perfectly honest,
and I never got a reply from you.
And so I half expected when I messaged you this time
that I wasn't even going to get a reply, because you're still a big deal to me, man.
You were a huge pioneer, and you were one of the guys that I was following.
You and Tiger Direct TV were the ones where I was looking at you
from more of an edutainment perspective,
and I was looking at them from a what a retailer can do
to build a YouTube channel perspective when I started NCIX Tech Tips four years ago.
So for those that are going to hate on you on this show,
they're not allowed to do that, you guys. It's not permitted.
It's okay, but I just wanted to let you know I ignore every YouTube message.
That's the worst way to get a hold of me.
I didn't know better at the time.
I did not ignore you on purpose. I just want to throw that out there.
YouTube is the worst, because it's impossible to manage.
I don't really reply to them either. I understand now,
but at the time I didn't get it, because I was still replying to every message
because I got like one every week.
Right.
Thanks, man.
We'll talk to you soon, and we'll see you when we're down in Seattle.
This has been a total blast.
Absolutely. Happy to do it.
All right, take care.
See you later.
All right, let's just...
Well, there you guys have it.
That was Chris Parillo, or Locker Gnome,
the artist formerly known as Locker Gnome.
Let's go with that.
And I really hope that you guys enjoyed having him on as a guest
based on how many people are tuned into the stream right now.
I think you guys enjoyed us having him as a guest,
so I will make sure this is my personal commitment to you now.
We are going to try to bring back Chris at least...
I guarantee you, personal commitment, we will try.
Shut up, man. You're killing me here.
Let's get back down to business.
So I was trying to load this page before, and it wasn't working.
There we go. Posted by John Lamb on the forum.
Steve Ballmer about to retire.
And it talked about sort of all the great things that have happened at Microsoft,
how they went from, I think he said, seven and a half million dollar company
to a 77 billion dollar company, whatever.
Somewhere around, some ridiculous metric that almost...
Thousand X growth in the time that he's been with the company.
I did the math.
7.5 mil to 78 billion, which is just unbelievable.
He says senior management is still committed to devices and services as a strategy.
So for better or for worse, they're still going down that path.
And you know what? Let's just move on to the next one.
This is an interesting talk, also related to...
I'll let you cover this one. Here we go.
I have nothing else to...
Check it out. Okay, so this is our article posted by Snow Comet
on the Linus Tech Tips forum.
It's the original articles from VR Zone.
And AMD says,
PUS4 performance advantage over Xbox One may be greater than many expect due to HUMA,
which is their homogeneous unified something microarchitecture.
Basically, it allows the GPU and the CPU to grab references that are in RAM at the exact same time.
So before, they could both grab it off the same chip,
but it would have to be two separate instances of the same information.
Now the graphics card and CPU can both grab it, which is a huge benefit.
Part of the problem though is, if it's not a console exclusive title,
they're going to be developing it not with that feature in mind.
So we're not going to see a huge benefit from this.
Unless we do, because of APUs on the desktop.
Unless we do because of that, and we will maybe...
Okay, okay, okay. Well, later on.
They're not expecting launch titles to be able to get that much advantage from this,
but it's more of a long-term look at this awesome thing that, if utilized properly,
could give a lot more performance.
So it's a hardware feature now, but I mean, I expect a next generation
or even two generations from now APU from AMD
to potentially take advantage of this, which would mean,
we could be looking at a situation where the game gets released for console,
and then gets... Okay, it gets released for PS4 and Xbox One, let's say.
So it is able to run with HUMA, or whatever you want to call it,
or is able to run without.
It gets ported to PC, where if you have an APU,
all of a sudden you can take advantage of that code path that already exists.
So that's what we could be looking at.
Everything coming out, all the information coming out for consoles right now,
it's just, every single time it's like, oh wait, this is information for consoles,
but this is so good for PC.
So good for PC!
Like, probably even better than it is for consoles.
Like, this is such a big deal.
So, yeah, we are, Color Us, pretty excited about that particular development right there.
So big thanks to everyone who posts news on the Linus Tech Tips forum.
We appreciate you guys, and we're gonna actually burn through a few of these news topics here,
because the camera's running on battery today,
and I actually have no idea how much battery life we have left, so, yeah.
Wacom has a new tablet.
Like actual tablet, not like a drawing tablet.
Yes!
It can be both.
If you plug it into a PC or a Mac, it becomes a drawing tablet.
If you run it solo, it's either, depending on which one you buy,
an Android tablet or a Windows-based tablet,
and they're saying that for professional use you can plug it into a computer,
but then while you're on the road, or while you're doing whatever,
you can still get design work done using apps instead of Android or Windows.
Or use Facebook.
Or use Facebook.
Or whatever you want.
It's an Android tablet or Windows tablet.
They're not cheap.
No.
They have a demo video that you can check out in the thread.
This was posted by Pixie Payne on the Linus Tech Tips forum.
So the Android version is $1600 for a 32 gig model,
and the Windows version is $2500 for a 512 gig model.
However, when we want to talk about convergent devices,
so the original source was just Wacom's website,
so when we talk about convergent devices, how flexible is this thing?
Because it's not much bigger than a regular tablet,
but it's got a 2048 different pressure settings,
and it is not much thicker than a regular tablet,
which is just unbelievable.
It's awesome.
And another thing is, I saw a whole bunch of people go,
oh my god, the price is so high.
And I would normally jump on that too, but it's a Wacom tablet.
Yeah, it's still a Wacom tablet.
The price is going to be crazy high.
It's a Wacom tablet.
It has that quality in it, and it can be used in that way.
People are going to be spending around that much money,
well, maybe not around that much money,
but a lot of money on a Wacom tablet anyway,
so if they could just spend a little bit more
and get this increased functionality, that's awesome.
I mean, so $2500.
Let's say you bought the biggest iPad available,
so 128 gig iPad, and you bought yourself a Wacom tablet.
I mean, you're already spending a wack ton of money anyway.
Maybe go for a Windows tablet
that also has a Wacom tablet built into it.
I don't know.
I like that one, because then you can get
full desktop applications to use with it.
Right?
That's so cool.
It's really expensive, but it's so cool.
And the storage space on that is insane.
To me, the Android device doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
And I had this conversation with Diesel,
and he basically said the same thing.
He paid the extra $900 to have a Windows tablet.
Even not from a creative person.
I'm not an artistically creative person at all.
You know that.
Neither of us are.
If I was in that position,
I would probably fork it out for the Windows one,
because you just get so much more flexibility.
And the storage space on it is so much bigger.
Isn't it like, I think it's like 500 gigs versus 32 or something?
512 versus 32.
Like, that's insane.
I mean, that's a really big deal to me.
And we're back, we think.
So we have a theory that we're testing right now
to see if we are going to indeed stay back.
But we think that, you know, baby got back or something like that.
It's a song about babies.
You're not a parent, you wouldn't understand.
There is probably a remix of that, isn't there?
Oh, probably.
Some actual baby one.
That is so classic.
Anyway, so without further ado, folks,
let's jump into our next topic here.
I know this is sort of random,
that we're jumping back into things here.
I know that's pretty unusual.
And I have no idea how many people are even watching,
but you know, it's worth a shot,
giving things another go.
We are live again.
I'm going to tweet that out right now.
So AMD has just announced massive price drops
on their new 9590 processor.
So this was the CPU with the 500 watt TDP,
which, did I say 500?
Because I meant 220 watt TDP, sorry.
But it was the CPU that now costs...
Oh, well, see?
This is what happens when my flow gets interrupted.
They dropped it by $500.
It has a 220 watt TDP,
making it pretty much about as hot running
as anything could possibly be.
It consumes a ton of power.
And the performance, while looking okay,
was like just ridiculous for $900.
I mean, it's a...
It's a lot more feasible now,
but if you bought one already, I feel bad for you.
And my kind of theory about this is what they're trying to do
is make it so that people can spend their excess money
on water cooling so they don't blow up the chip.
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, I don't know exactly what the logic
behind actually asking that much for the product
in the first place was,
and I don't know what the logic behind
slashing it by that much is
unless they were literally selling none of them, like zero.
So maybe there weren't even...
Because honestly, okay, working at NCIX,
if there was like an issue, like, okay,
we've got like 500 of these and we're selling like 10 a week
and it's at this price, we might look at it and go,
okay, well, how many have we sold?
Have we sold like two?
Can we just like reach out to those two guys
and like deal with them?
And then not worry about all the people
who are gonna be upset when we drop the price
by $100 or something.
In that case, it's only on products
where there's like a ton of margin.
It was like a weird closeout deal or something like that
where you're just experimenting with the pricing,
trying to find what the market will bear.
Maybe what AMD did was they tried to find out
if the market will bear this,
discovered that they'd sold none of them
and then they were like,
okay, well, we're not gonna be upsetting anyone
if we drop the price now.
That was another thing I was thinking is,
yes, it's a huge price drop
and yes, my first reaction was,
holy crap, if I bought one of those, I'd be pissed.
Then my second reaction was, did anyone buy any of those?
Is there gonna be anyone to be pissed?
I have no idea.
I mean, I know NCIX opened one to build a demo system.
Other than that, have they sold anything?
So like retailers and system integrators.
Yeah, it's like it
and then like crazy benchmarkers that are getting them for free.
Yeah, I don't know.
I had a great question the other day on Twitter.
Someone was asking, if they release the 9590,
does that mean FX 8350s,
which are basically the same chip but binned not quite as well,
does that mean that some of the best overclocking FX 8350s
are essentially not gonna exist anymore
and the answer is yes.
Because they're skimming it, yeah.
Yeah, because if they're skimming,
the only way to get what you know is for sure
going to be the best overclocking chips
is to buy the highest binned part typically.
Now, there are other factors
such as what Intel or AMD or Nvidia
or whoever else are selecting for.
If they're selecting for power consumption
versus if they're selecting for heat output
or whatever those factors are,
that can affect it too,
but in general, going for the highest end one
gives you the best chance of overclocking.
This has always been the case.
But even then, we might be talking about differences
of a couple hundred megahertz
or we might be talking about differences
where they run at the same speed,
but this one, the lower end one,
outputs a lot more heat or something along those lines.
So someone says on Twitch chat,
Linus, I love how I searched for FX 9000 series chip
and you're like, the first two results.
Sweet.
Great work.
And I don't think we ever even made a video about it,
which is sort of the most ridiculous thing there.
All right, so let's, you know what?
Because we had some issues with the stream before,
I'm gonna do my Squarespace thing right now.
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Speaking of the WAN Show,
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Someone already found a typo.
Yeah, I'm sure there is.
It's in progress, you guys.
Diesel did the whole thing in like six hours.
But what were we using before?
WordPress.
WordPress, yeah.
WordPress with a custom theme.
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It's very customizable, which is cool about WordPress.
You're not locked into a particular theme,
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We spent a lot more time on it.
Kind of wasted the time
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Yeah, I mean, that's the problem with these projects
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We were trying to make an artsy, good-looking site,
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And then it's WordPress, so not Diesel.
Yeah.
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Don't get me wrong, like custom coding,
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you can make something better than you can make on Squarespace,
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They have an advanced mode now,
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I asked...
It's beta or something.
Yeah, really.
Can you edit everything?
I have no idea.
If you can edit everything, that's actually potentially really cool.
It's kind of neat.
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And that concludes that.
Let's move into our next topic here, guys.
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Speaking of things that you can pay for monthly,
should you so desire it,
The Elder Scrolls Online is asking for a monthly fee.
Should I just shut up for like 10 minutes so we can go to the next topic?
No, no, I want you to cover this one.
So that was submitted by TopWarGamer on the Linus Tech Tips forum.
And Slick, go for it.
If you want to reference back to a previous livestream that we've had,
sorry, if you want to reference back to a previous livestream that we've had,
when, wow, why can't I remember his name?
They have too many different names for all the different stuff.
But Logan, I was thinking tech syndicate,
and then I was thinking raise the world.
Yeah, Logan.
When Logan was on, we talked about free-to-play games.
And the payment mode that most people are calling out
Elder Scrolls should have been is a free-to-play game.
Now, one thing Logan brought up that I believe both of us agreed with,
is free-to-play games putting no barrier to entry
brings in a not strong community.
Every nine-year-old.
Every single person that you don't want playing that game
will be playing that game.
And the communities in pay-to-play games have been higher.
Now, is, in my opinion, a subscription model the best?
Not necessarily.
They could have done something like Guild Wars.
They could have done something like something else.
Pay for the game and then no monthly fee.
I mean, that to me isn't a bad one either.
Yeah.
But then, okay, okay.
But where they're coming from is if they did any other model,
so say they did the Guild Wars model,
Guild Wars releases expansions fairly often.
That's where they get their recurring income from.
Now, you don't have to buy the expansions,
but if you don't buy the expansions, you're not able to do everything.
Elder Scrolls team is saying, well, with this IP,
you've always been able to do everything.
It's a free roam, very do-whatever-you-want IP.
Now...
An IP, like intellectual property?
Yes.
Not like internet protocol?
Yeah, sorry.
Now, where I'm coming from with that is there's always been expansions and stuff,
but I guess from a single player's perspective,
it's not like you're locked off compared to other players
because it's single player.
So you're free to do everything that is currently in the game for you.
So in a multiplayer situation, they're saying,
you can't not do something that someone else can do.
So you'll always be able to do everything if it's subscription-based.
That was interesting, and I was sold.
I was okay with it.
Now, if you looked at my notes that I added on there,
they're also adding a cash shop.
So that's where things start to get a little bit dicey to me
because if you're going to charge everyone to play at all,
then how can you have free-to-play stuff implemented as well?
So, I mean, what is this?
I think a quote from VG247.com is,
it's probably safe to speculate that these will include a large range
of largely cosmetic items then if they're not going to have a pay-to-win model.
So horse armor, anyone?
I mean, would it get them a lot of publicity if the first viable item was horse armor?
That would be huge.
One thing, though, is that the only thing they have confirmed
is in the cash shop is a name change, which is no problem,
but there's obviously going to be more stuff.
We just don't know what it is.