though okay okay oh did they remove the no there's no way they remove that I
would not risk it I doubt it either way I just I just have to get my super
professional shirt on here thank you say there we go oh yeah our TX on you don't
want to stand up and like show everyone how that Twitter Twitter hates this
shirt oh yeah they're like why would I buy that and I I heard through the grape
vine that some people at Nvidia have seen it already yeah and they're like so
is he saying that like RTX makes him hard or that like RTX can suck it that's
not even the meme it's when you've got a big ray to trace need ray tracing right
yeah I mean it's a lie but oh this week that's been a good week as
long as you're not in video hoping to keep our TX 20 actually no never mind
that's well huh what can I say I was part way through I was like why is he
stuttering on this and then I realized that maybe there's so there is a good
chance okay that reviews of the RTX graphics cards when they could come
because we know everyone has them right because unboxings went up today yeah
so so I could extrapolate from that that probably reviews are coming at some
point do we have one yes okay yeah we did an unboxing today of a network
switch and my new router with RTX boxes in the background nice okay pure lulls
that's pure lulls that's great so people like the comments are full of like I
thought it would be the iPhone 10s I thought it would be our chance no neither
it's what I wanted to do so so so okay so we know everyone has cards and we we
know that usually reviews come you know I don't know a week or so after
unboxings start to go up generally a couple weeks a week or two especially
when they embargo everything what we don't know is what if anything with RTX
in it could possibly be included in a review in that time frame no no these
are all things that okay so there's okay well we'll get into it more later but
I'm just I'm just saying gear up for disappointment I mean there's one good
game in that list it's not about good games or bad games it's about having it
at the rest having it do you have this which one hellblade cinema sacrifice
okay but is the feature enable because we also have shadow of the Tomb Raider
mmm which doesn't have the patch yeah pub G okay
that's how pub G is under the rest okay newly added in okay all right all right
anyway anyway topics for this week Nvidia has revealed some performance of
the RTX series but like one question one question yeah tried RTX no you know what
save that for after the intro because I don't want people you know leaving the
video yet okay cuz that's like as soon as people see it cuz that's the title of
the video is it's something about RTX performance as soon as people get that
they're just gonna leave we're gonna leave us and we're gonna be sad but
doesn't that would make me sad um actually I just I just you know what
screw it we'll talk about it now but you have to watch the intro first
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or your oh I'm in trouble now oh well he's gonna yell at me you know he has
gotten pretty big for his britches he like gets mad at me when I do stuff
wrong now do you remember how timid he was yes like I would if you told me back
then that he would eventually do that part of me would be like it's Colton I
could see it but at the same time no no he was like oh apparently the intro
volume is bunged up for some reason I have no idea why that is but I blame
Jake yeah me too anyway the what was I talking about yeah Colton when he first
started I'd be like hey Colton would you mind maybe please doing something good
okay I'm sorry whereas now he's like yeah you done you done screwed that up
but you know don't worry I'll fix it you know he's like he's all like business II
it's crazy laser focus anyway I forget why I was talking about Colton right yeah
cuz he's gonna he's gonna give me crap if I if I say the sponsors name wrong
anyway um why don't we jump right into tell me so you were you were at I guess
was it oh my goodness it's September you were at PAX then yeah so you tried RTX
yeah there was an alright there's an so how much of your life okay would you
want to look back on and not have had RTX in it um yeah I don't I don't I
understand this is the meme but I don't I don't remember exactly how Steve
replied to the meme so I can't do like the proper meme response yeah but yeah
I know it was I mean it was cool I had some some bigger and other takeaways
though I asked I was very specific about what I was able to talk about from the
invite only event okay and I'm not allowed to say what game it was and I
can't say whether or not it's on the list of games that we have here but I
can talk about the experience I just can't talk about what game it was I
think the reason for that was I don't even want to go into that to what game
it was but yeah I can talk about how good it was very cagey but I was it yeah
I was able to use frame rate limiters on demos I have an interesting idea as to
why that might be okay all right we'll get into that next then looks like this
is gonna be the RTX show so are we going into another topic or am I no no okay
yeah so they had a cool feature where you can just tap I think it was f1 yeah
and it would rapidly switch between RTX on and RTX off sure like there was like
no lag no switching between it at all and there was no frame rate difference
and I think that was the reason why they limited was because they didn't want to
show you the difference in even if there was a very minor difference in
performance if there was some amount it would skew the conversation away from
what RTX looked like and they wanted the conversation be about what it looked
like sure now the second part was how good did it look yes I can't tell you
what game it was which would be super helpful for explaining how good it
looked but I'll give you the vague definitely not enough information it
looked very good which is useless because you don't know what game you
know what and I can't tell you know what I want Riley back on the land show
instead I want Riley back he's gonna review the RTX 20 yeah I saw that well
that was nuts people freaked out way too hardcore I watched it and was like I
don't understand what people have said Riley watched it and was like I don't
understand so the thing is that people were like minus you made a joke and it
didn't land but I think what they're missing is that Riley was the one who
made the joke and it was an inside joke to me yeah and I made an inside joke
back to him and it was fine and we don't we didn't really matter if it landed
with you guys not everything on the land show is necessarily about okay like it
is it's obviously it's a show it's right in there it's show but some of to keep
some banter going some inside stuff is gonna be sad because you're just in the
flow of things okay here's the big player though
RTX off looked horrible and I can't tell you are we back to the whole stupid HDR
on and off again thing like no that this is where okay so my theory is we're like
the games looked intentionally destroyed with HDR off this is where I think it's
different this is all theory crafting I couldn't get any answers out of them
obviously but yeah pitch that happened before yeah we saw the game a big part
they brought up was that enabling RTX putting RTX into your game is super easy
this is really important it takes very little time it takes very little work
okay so basically where it's going whatever game this is has just garbage
town lighting because that's hard and it has good lighting with our TX because
our TX is easy is that what we're saying so it looks like but part of the problem
is killing me here I can't say what game it was yeah but either people that have
would maybe maybe I will say that something along the lines of that game
that has existed in the past whether it was a previous version or it was the
same development house or it was something I don't I'm not I can't get
too specific the lighting was really good okay like notably really good okay
and it looked like trash so so I think the thing that's happening is yeah I
don't know this is all super unconfirmed yeah sure the thing that's happening is
it's really easy to turn our TX on you can save development dollars by just
throwing our TX on your game then it'll look really good you can get great
screenshots and get great demos some people will have a great experience in
the game there's turn our TX on and then for all of the plebs who maybe you know
you just don't care about or whatever like they can just have a garbage
experience yeah and I'm hoping that whatever game it was and I think this is
why I'm not allowed to say it is because they're probably gonna work on their
RTX off okay but I think in video wanted to show it before they had worked on
their RTX off of course so I think the RTX off will get better because they'll
work on it but it revealed this potential scenario where they just plug
our TX into the game and they're like well that's enough you know what it
seems like to me this whole thing is just not ready yeah and it's being
rushed yeah I really really liked the idea of the tech like yeah hardware not
yeah ray tracing necessarily but having the AI cores you know to move things on
to the AI cores because with having a sink on your CUDA cores yeah having like
physical a sink with being able to move things to the other cores like being
able to pull anti aliasing and putting it on one of the AI cores and stuff
that's super cool I really really like that stuff I don't know part so part of
my idea is I think they're trying to add something a little bit less tangible to
the difference between Nvidia cards and AMD cards you mean more more tangible or
something less quantitative yeah yeah so like an FPS number and a dollar number
are very we we used to I'm sure we still do make dollar per performance graphs
for everything all the time because it's a really good measure but that's what
they've been trying to do that for years with GF experience which by the way I
don't think was unintentional geforce experience GF experience yeah I know
right okay I mean they also called a TV yeah BFG display yeah yeah I mean these
guys man anyway anyway anyway the point is they've been trying to differentiate
themselves through features and experience which are years now I don't
blame them which which I don't blame them for at all yeah but and for a long
time to be honest I think they kind of had it and then I think they pissed a
lot of people off with the geforce experience stuff yeah they've they've
helped it a lot I'm gonna keep giving them credit for this yeah now there's
it's way more I appreciate that that is that is way way way better I don't know
AFK Jim 420 says I see the new architecture will make the RTX cards
viable for longer as they age being able to offload some of the work to other
course okay the issue with that is that unless Nvidia absolutely nailed it like
this is the first attempt and I don't think I've ever seen that happen before
where whether it's beefing up a GPU for like whenever it's that then the next
the next-gen GPU tech whether it's tessellation or whether it's a new
shader model or whatever the case may be whenever there's some new piece of tech
that lands the first implementation in hardware always kind of misses something
and it's the tweaked one that goes oh yeah we just needed a little bit more
reinforcement over there and okay now we're we're not we're not starving the
rest of the pipeline woohoo it's much better I just I have I just am so I'm so
hesitant to just say you know yeah go ahead that way you're gonna have the
tech that you need going forward it's future-proof well that's never a good
idea exactly it's like so when I was shopping for my car one of the reasons I
ended up with the volt is that it is the yes so the 2017 volt is the second model
year of the third generation design of this car now you compare that one of the
other cars I was looking at was the Honda Clarity that is the first model
year it is an all-new actually it's an all it was the all-new model year of a
completely new car that's what mine is which is terrifying because from one car
manufacturer to another I don't think there are any exceptions here that I'm
aware of the all-new platform tends to have some bugs that need to be wrinkled
out and that do get fixed over the next two to three so yeah I bought my cars
used for sure Z's and they were like done with that model by the time I bought
the car and I knew any potential problems that it might have to be clear
so that helps a lot yeah but in my case I was going in completely cold on the
clarity yeah they only had a handful of them for Canada apparently so I just
yeah we'll see clear like it could be a super awesome I'm I think it probably
will be a great card I I think a lot of the media right now I think a lot of the
fans are confused by some of the media reaction because the media is really
frustrated that we don't have performance stuff there's been really
weird embargo setups and that Tom Tom's article just set everyone on fire but
like themselves on fires what they did it sounds really cool yeah I'm not
scared of this card like I don't think it's gonna if if the RTX stuff doesn't
work that great you can just turn it off so use so you can hate a lot of things
about Nvidia you can hate their marketing you can hate their prices you
can hate their you can hate the way that they engage with the market and with
their partners with the GeForce partner program yeah but you're you're probably
missing something like there's probably a problem likely exists between the
keyboard and chair unless you remember of the Linux community because they
really haven't treated that community very well over the years but there's
probably something else wrong if you look at the product itself and you go
you know it's bad yeah they're good it's not bad yeah you can have a lot of
problems with Nvidia with Nvidia products but as a general rule they
aren't bad they might not be the best value per dollar for the the particular
workload that you're looking at but there are a lot of things that in
fairness to Nvidia we have to give them credit for they support legacy products
for an unfreaking believable amount of time like how far does it go back now
and I'm actually I'm quite I'm quite curious if you go on their site how far
back does the latest GeForce driver go so let's throw 10 series in here so
they've still got downloads on their site going all the way back to GeForce
what uh crap it keeps screaming scrolling GeForce 6 series and their
most recent driver so they've only goes up to Windows 7 but bear in mind you can
typically install a Windows 7 driver on Windows 10 they supported that card up
to 2015 okay so the 6800 GT ultra did they launch with it I think they
launched with the GT so the 6800 GT was launched in okay oh here we go was
launched in 2004 they supported that card for yeah I'll let that well it's
February 2015 it was 2004 so 10 years when you compare that to what the
typical smartphone manufacturer will do like Apple Apple's a shining beacon in
the smartphone industry in terms of model support I was looking at a table
of how long Apple has supported their devices and it's anywhere from three
years and and lots of change like almost four to four and a half years in some
cases even a little over four and a half years when even Google is only
committing what two years I think for pixel devices I think one plus is
committing two OS updates so about two years we got to give them credit for
what they do do well it's not a bad product someone in Chad is saying they
just bully partners to buy old cards what's that bad sure I don't know I
have no idea you're talking I don't know what it means and that's literally the
point we're talking about is that the product is good yeah so you might not
like other things yeah there can be all kind and you cannot buy Nvidia out of
principle and I'm sure you could find a dozen reasons to do it that's not the
point the point is that we don't have a reason to believe that the upcoming RTX
cards will be bad yeah we just also don't have a reason to believe that RTX
will be the game-changing feature that they say it will or that the RTX cards
will fully enable the will give you the full experience of that as new games
come out over the coming years and hopefully hopefully hopefully it does
hopefully that's hopefully we're totally wrong but we have no idea super cool but
until Nvidia is willing to it's not even that we're wrong we just don't have any
information yeah until they're willing to put up or shut up like what are we
supposed to say if I can't test RTX then we can't form an opinion yeah so right
now all we can do is speculate based on the past and in the past I've observed
this pattern so that's all I can really tell you guys yeah all right let's have
a look oh yeah so right they're finally talking about performance and these
slides aren't like exceedingly helpful but as per usual yeah so as as per
usual they're just kind of vague but there you go we've got something to work
with here the original sources from overclock 3d.net but oh that's deep
learning imaging so they're saying both RTX 2080 and 2080 TI are going to be
capable of 4k 60 FPS gaming what the crap does this line mean I am not sure
is this zero is this 30 I'm not sure this is actually like pretty much the
worst not the worst but it's like it's close to there yeah it it's pretty done
and just like what what actually goes down this is it the frame rate or is it
the resolution in both but like by weird amounts like this is basically what is
causing all of this speculation around RTX and that like maybe it sucks because
Nvidia is just and this looks like kind of a dumb response to all of it because
Nvidia is just being so tight-lipped about the whole thing and just going no
no no ray tracing ray tracing ray tracing and when really a lot of gamers
especially the ones that are playing games that won't have ray tracing like I
don't know that's another thing I got from the demo you will not want it on
for multiplayer well yeah like ever at all like ever I don't think ever really
why because there's more shadows oh I see and like darker shadows because if
you definitely know where the light source is coming from yeah instead of
just like washing a room with light it's gonna there's gonna be like oh there's
like a branch that crosses the light source here so there's a huge shadow
cast across that whole area okay wait I am going to pitch you something here
okay what about Rainbow Six Rainbow Six specifically like siege are you talking
siege I'm talking about like I'm talking about Rainbow Six style games okay so
low so yeah siege is the one everyone's playing right now yeah yeah where
basically interacting with the environment is a huge part of the
gameplay so if you could hit a light causing a shadow of an opponent to
appear somewhere the more realistic that interaction potentially the better just
hit a light like if you shoot out a bulb or something turn a light off though
yes what if you could add one would you throw a flare I've done this I'm just
throwing that out there what if they made it a fundamental because this is
the whole conversation that I'm sure we've had multiple times but I've had
definitely with a lot of people over the years going all the way back to when
PhysX was first introduced and what was that stupid game shoot I forget it was
like a like a Space Marine style like running around game but PhysX was a
fundamental part of the gameplay demo game table Borderlands no no no no no
no no it was oh no about that game we shot help me run faster in if you had a
Intel SSD no it was basically a demo like what this is before the Nvidia cell
factor yeah cell factor yes thank you good call Ricky dog thank you cell
factor Rick Yog sorry no not cell factory yet like it disappeared it never
got finished but there was like like you could like do physics things and like
move stuff around and like it was wait was it self-factor no hold on no it
wasn't roblox I think I think it was self-factor as far as I know it like
never got finished yeah I'm pretty sure it was self-factor anyway anyway anyway
the point is it was this cool demo where PhysX was a fundamental core part of
gameplay but it never took off because you couldn't count on everyone to have
PhysX because I mean especially because at the time it was it was like a
hardware card you had to buy it was a separate accelerator card this whole
thing feels very PhysX but built into the card yeah but the thing is is that
we've had PhysX built into the card and still all you can do is kick garbage
around on the ground as Batman and see your cape flutter better because of
PhysX like it's still not a core part of gameplay so to me I think you could if
if the Rainbow Six developers were like yeah we're gonna take the destructibility
of the environment and the lighting of the environment to a whole new level but
you have to have RTX I think no game that's actually going to be competitive
would ever do that uneven playing field for hardware is not something that has
ever gone well for competitive no and requiring people to have super high-end
hardware is just not a thing I guess that's where I'm going with this is that
you you won't be able to make it fundamental to gameplay unless you can
count on everyone having it if you can set up if you if you can like shoot a
door off a car and then use the reflections off the door to like see
someone coming around the corner yeah like that sounds freaking sweet yeah
sounds pretty single-player to me dude yeah like I don't I don't think that's
gonna be a thing and it sounds single-player but like not
the game play single-player games are great there was a very recently there's
a thread trending on I don't remember what that was talking about how it's
like people that just don't play multiplayer games anymore and all this
kind of stuff and there's actually a lot of really great single-player games have
been coming out for a while there's quite a few great single-player games
on the horizon and you might even find like PvE multiplayer games we don't care
as much okay and you might just want the lighting because you want to look really
cool and that might all that's all great that's all awesome not saying there
isn't benefits to it I just think like people who want to be hardcore
competitive yeah I don't think that's gonna be a thing it probably won't even
be an option and I'm just saying until you can make it fundamental to gameplay
it's always it's always a bell and whistle and there's some people that
will care yeah definitely some people just like gameplay is king like you know
it's the whole Nintendo thing yeah where then I completely agree with this the
switch doesn't look any better than what like a ps3 if that is it even it doesn't
even look as good as a ps3 it's a hard thing to compare the stupid ps3 come out
if you define look as good that would be like what resolution and framerate it
can push but Nintendo titles on general have like a way different art style
which they do they do doesn't need more hardware but that's exactly the point is
like gameplay is far more important oh yeah and lighting I've had more fun on
my switch physics for like a long time then my computer rip honestly 95% of my
gaming time in the last few months has been Zelda Breath of the Wild oh yeah
it's great it's a great game I'm not done yet but like I don't care because I
just go and like walk around the mountains and like find snails yeah and
like dude Super Mario Tennis aces actually super fun yeah I was like when
I got it I was like it's like a full-price tennis title played
overcooked mmm no but it looks really I tried it for the first time last week
it's really good yeah so we're gonna when we do the lens do you know what the
land center yeah I was there when we made decision to sick okay yeah so when
we build the land center I want to put like a big screen like a projector yeah
and that'll be so we'll have consoles and a PC with controllers but I want
that to be like the the the local multiplayer yeah set up spot and we are
gonna play some overcooked hell yeah for sure definitely I'm actually so excited
for that land center me too I haven't watched it yet but it was cool that you
had nothing up here yeah do you even did you know not much yeah I had to like
stream a PDA him before but like I didn't feel bad cuz he like he was like
yeah I think I'm pretty sure I watched your videos before it was like an Intel
thing to kind of put us together yeah honestly I had a lot of fun just doing
the stream with him so that was great no he's cool yeah yeah I couldn't believe
it when he chickened entered the one pub G match that he got to play as part of
his sponsor prize so like still though even if you're really good you got like
eight kills yeah so so okay so what happened was Intel sponsored him to come
up here as part of gamer days to build a PC with me so my commitment was to build
a PC for him and then he was supposed to stream for like a few hours after we
built the PC just like from our office here on that PC or the exact same spec
but like it was actually whatever yeah yeah anyway the point is his flight got
delayed so we had to throw the machine together we did like a super quick build
like I was kind of like he got here late yeah okay yeah and then he only got to
stream for like one round and then the fact that he won it I was when he was on
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youtuber officially officially 10 out of 10 bad youtuber because I completely
forgot that we were even streaming on YouTube I streamed earlier on YouTube so
you know I got that going for me I can't even find it I don't even see the stream
here in the thing someone in the super chat says I wonder if LTT YouTube
channel going to do the community join thing like with the join button on
channel that is a great question and one that I would love to answer for you give
me a moment I'm just gonna post that thing there yes there so we are but
floatplane is not going away so this is something that Luke and I I think talked
about on the land show a little while ago when we were both kind of
independently having huge freakouts and then together having a huge freakout and
then realized that it's not actually a big deal yeah because the whole I forget
what it's called supporter contributors sponsor I forget what it's called when
someone I think it's called sponsor clicks that button but it basically it's
like a twitch it's like a twitch sub button is titled join is it okay join
it's a join button but I don't remember what you become so when someone does
that they pay money and it helps support the creator and also gives some money to
Google and other than that yeah I think you get some like emojis but there's
there's not a ton of tangible benefits so there's no early access so in it
already right out of the gate it doesn't compete with float planes well what we
consider to be at least one of float planes sort of dominant features is
early access to video so there you go there's not actually as much overlap as
you might think and to the way that we see it both for supporters and for
creators there is always going to be the people who wouldn't go off platform like
just have no interest in leaving youtube.com and would do want to support
Linus Media Group but they want to do on youtube.com there's always gonna be
those people and then there's always gonna be the people that don't want to
give Google a dollar they'll turn on ad block they will refuse any kind of
contribution that gives Google a cut and for those people there's always gonna
have to be a third-party option and we see ourselves especially in the
direction that we're going right now as being able to be a very strong
third-party option so life is not as simple as this one or this one why not
both maybe they could just coexist I mean we always said we are not a YouTube
competitor and that's true so we're just gonna have to keep not being a YouTube
competitor and I guess I'm speaking as Floatplane Media Linus right now as
opposed to YouTuber Linus Media Group Linus but then from Linus Media
Group's perspective we have always been all about diversification yeah that's
why we joined Vessel that's why we started linustechtips.com forum that's
why we reached out to partners directly to bake sponsorships into our videos
rather than being entirely dependent on Adsense because we don't want to be
completely reliant on Google because Google
is actually they're on a bit of a run right now
towards us because I know other creators have had some issues with them
yeah but for us they're on a bit of a run right now where they've been
actually supporting us really well but the thing is that you can't
necessarily count on that lasting forever
because we've had situations where there was no communication from Google and all
of a sudden there's these guidelines for how they're not going to allow you
to have sponsors built into your content anymore unless you adhere to all these
like weird rules like you can't show any
logos in your video yeah like that was awkward trying to
explain to someone like Squarespace yeah we can
talk about your service and we can have our site be built with Squarespace and
we can say you know we love Squarespace and it's
really cool but we can't show your logo on screen
they'd be like what and you'd be like well so the issue is
that if we do that then you have to buy through Google all of the advertising on
that video but then I don't know how that works
because you can't buy it perpetually they don't even have a system for that
yeah but what could you possibly have been thinking so stuff like that
has happened in the past so that's why um someone wants to know if we
can add a manual monthly fee in Floatplane I mean
I okay so actually from the outside it has appeared as though Floatplane
hasn't changed much in the last four to six weeks
but Luke and I actually had a really good meeting yesterday
and um there's going to be some big updates
coming hopefully next week right yeah yeah so theoretically we're pushing
the the most important but probably the hardest to tell
one on Monday and then there's uh there's more stuff coming right after
that yeah so so expect to see new features
actually happening over the next little bit um
let's see should we do another topic or should I talk about a lot of the
questions oh right right right right right
because I was saying speaking of www chrome
is like killing www yeah I don't think it's one of our actual topics in here
this week but um and so you'll have to forgive me
for not having a ton of background on it but I thought
that was interesting because technically there's
no reason why linustechtips.com and www.linustechtips.com had to be the
same thing in the past it just
happened that out of convenience and out of sort of convention and habit
generally speaking webmasters tried to make them the same thing because
consumers are lazy and they don't want to type www dot every time
but google is actually formalizing this whole thing
which from the perspective of some security
sort of minded individuals could be a problem
because all of a sudden it could be a way for you to
uh to to hijack someone who otherwise would have intended to go to
a different site so maybe you can explain in more detail how the crap that
would work well I right now I'm I'm not entirely
sure and usually I'd have some angle for this but I've actually
read a few threads on it and there's a lot of people debating each other on how
exactly it's going to work so I don't I don't want to speak to it
too much if you are interested in it there there's a lot of people talking
about it and you can definitely find threads out there on your own
um but yeah it it gets pretty weird because there's
there's one camp where they're talking about like well
um I don't remember how that was supposed to work but like subdomaining
paypal onto things yeah can maybe make it look like you're
somewhere else and like yeah it's there's some weird
stuff that you might be able to do with it
basically it's right now it's an unknown yeah and that's really scary from a web
security perspective especially because this change feels
very unnecessary I think I think honestly I think the vast majority of it
or all of it is known I think the implications of it
are a little confusing yes and hard to understand
and a lot of people are talking about it when not a lot of people understand
what's actually happening um this is a great super chat bklb yo
I'm late to the show what are the specs core clock memory clock gimme gimme gimme
um it'll be archived also uh youtube live streaming has a great feature where
you can actually rewind it we talked about rtx for the first half of the show
uh thanks man um calvin says thanks for the beanbag chair
is that actually the guy that we just like gave a bean bag chair to for no
reason I have no I can't remember why we did it
I just remember being like oh yeah sure whatever let's just do it
and I think we were trying to get rid of it or something maybe um
maybe he like paid for it but like it was just a little bit I don't remember
exactly what happened um oh a lot of people were wondering
what was up with that weird live stream last night
so that was a new youtube feature called premieres
and what happens with premieres is that it seems like it hits you guys with a
notification early and then you're supposed to come
back and watch the video at exactly the moment it goes live and
there's a live chat but the video is actually pre-produced
so there were a lot of people that seemed to be upset
because they were like this isn't live pre-recorded
pre-recorded hashtag pre-recorded and yes it was
supposed to be pre-recorded yeah so this is actually a feature that and
luke and i still have some ideas that are different and could be better
but this was actually a feature that we had discussed doing on floodplain
like two years ago like two years ago but dev takes time
anyway the point is the idea behind it is that
it is a normal video but we schedule when it goes live now we often schedule
our videos but in this case we're scheduling it in
a way that you guys can see so you'll know
exactly when to come back with your popcorn and hang out in the
chat and like talk interact live with
each other and or me it was actually me and nick that were both manning the
linus tech tips account last night and give commentary on the video as
you're watching it as you're all watching it together
and then as soon as that premiere is done then it just
a switch flips and it becomes just a normal youtube video
neat huh yeah
uh andrew asks if i will talk about conservatives being banned from youtube
and twitter if you're talking specifically about
alex jones um no i won't
i will not be talking about that thank you great question that's a way to get
banned on youtube
oh here's a question for you yeah if alex jones okay came to you sure
and said i want to be on flow plane sure what do you say
sure good me too so people we might want to clarify why
should we clarify why well because we don't want to be we don't
want to really we just don't we're not even an
open platform you would have to pay to go see his content so if you are going
to be offended by his content or driven off
by his content don't actively give him money yeah don't give him money and you
won't see and you're fine and the other thing too is like we do
draw the line at anything illegal so i know that some people have
speculated that he's been banned because of some pending lawsuits or whatever
else but that doesn't necessarily mean that
the content that he uploaded was illegal i
actually don't know that it wasn't frankly i haven't looked that i doubt
either of us know almost anything but until he did something illegal on
floatplane.com then there wouldn't really be a
conversation to be had about it i don't i don't know almost anything
about them i know some people don't like them
and i don't know um
people are asking so would you allow denying sandy hook on floatplane i don't
agree with it but as far as i can tell it's not
illegal so if you give him money yeah don't give
him money would be like the best suggestion
um all right
is that what he did is that everyone's angry about i really know nothing about
honestly he's been doing that for years that's just a particularly stupid thing
that he's done yes that's weird yeah it's a it's a very
bizarre now someone chat said he did not do
that see i don't know i can't keep on top of this stuff
but i just don't care um oh do we have to cover the iphone
10s 10s max and 10r have you been have you kept up with this have you seen this
have you heard about this dude i've been busy
um yeah they seem like they're gonna be fine oh i finally got my iphone 10 back
well it's not that i finally got it back i finally r made it so
my face id has been broken for over six months yeah yeah yeah um so
apple's rma process excellent they send you a prepaid label it appears to be
like overnight because i got my new phone back in three days or something
stupid like that um like doorstep to doorstep and i'm not
i don't mean like in 72 hours i mean like i shipped it out
midday here and got it back at the beginning of the day here like it's
impressive that's pretty crazy um so that's so that's cool so i'll
have my iphone 10 to compare against it i'm definitely getting um both the 10s
and the 10s max dbrand is uh is is working on it
so that's cool you guys can expect a review um
you know eventually i'm at the point now where i don't know if you saw the the
video that went up last night i'm assuming i'm assuming not
but it was about um why google or how google
forced me to make an iphone 10s video so what i had actually wanted to do was the
switch stream that i did today not nintendo switch network switch
yeah that's what i had wanted to do um but instead
i i decided to make a 10s video because um over the last three years our lowest
point for viewership like our weeks long lowest
point for viewership was the day after apple announced a new
iphone in september and i've seen people suggest well maybe
it's because of back to school and that's
a good hypothesis but apple's announcement is as much as a week or 10
days apart so theoretically if it was because of
back to school it would all happen like when school goes back um and i don't
believe apple's announcement is directly related to labor day also like school's
been in session for a little while here yeah
um and basically what i what i what i talked about was
how you just kind of have to do it because
as soon as someone watches an iphone 10s video you know how it is if you watch a
tractor video all of a sudden you've got a bunch of farming videos in your feed
and all over your home page and everything
so as soon as someone watches an iphone 10s video dude i watched a video on some
guy mowing a lawn with a like a sickle
yep i didn't know there was that many lawn mowing videos
on the internet i just exactly it wouldn't stop and so
what happens is if we don't have a 10s video
then the algorithm goes well these guys are tech but not apple
and this viewer is tech and apple and they start to skew
the way that they feed them videos and um so
so i was like okay you know what screw it i'm just i don't know whatever i'm
just gonna do an iphone 10s video um but i don't really feel like talking
about it anymore so they're like better and stuff
and also there's a 10r that has an lcd instead of an oled
why is there so many different versions um
well there's the there's the premium ones small big
and then there's the value one all of a 10 though
10s 10s well two 10s's and one 10r see we already got confused and then the 10
goes away so what's been typical in the past
yeah that's that's a weird one okay my my my guess and obviously no one's done
tear downs of these yet but my guess is that the 10 is just too expensive
to um to to become uh like a a step down model
right just they don't want to manufacture it yeah because it's got
that dual layer p that sandwich pcb with all the like it looks incredibly
complex to manufacture yeah um so that that's my guess i think
that's why the 10r came about instead of just keeping the 10 i'm sure
you've talked about this before but someone in chat said notch equals ruined
what is your thoughts equals what ruined what are your
thoughts on notches because i don't think i care so i don't
mind the notch as long as i can disable it
but it actually does bother me if i'm watching
21 by 9 content if i'm watching widescreen content and i've got a
a bite out of the screen what do you might disable it um
so one plus for example allows you to just chop off the top of the display and
as long as you've got an oled display those pixels that are off they're just
as black as the glass around it yeah so it's just gone
if you don't want to not just ignore watching some type of full screen
content it would chop off the notch because i like the idea of notifications
and phone not on the iphone that's some android
handset makers do do that but not on the iphone
and so like playing a game on an iphone there's a freaking notch on the edge
that's really stupid it's just very very stupid
and i don't mind the idea of the notch there if it just has phone status on the
right notifications on the left cool yeah if i have so many notifications
that they go all the way across then that's actually kind of what i have
all the time but i'm not gonna be able to tell what's happening from looking at
that notification bit anyway so we have to pull it down regardless so i don't
care yeah um but then all full screen content
should just not go up there that's ridiculous
oh boy and that's been the debate over the last uh over the last year
yeah oh this is this kind of sucks so oneplus guys are my bros
um
and all that heart uh but really so oneplus it seems has been
confirmed yeah looks like this is confirmed oneplus
is removing the headphone jack so what am i gonna have left samsung
is the is the lgv 40 gonna have a headphone jack here lgv
40 let's find out uh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah
i can't tell the site's loading slowly looks like it will okay uh with their
upgraded DAC so it looks like the lgv 40 is gonna continue oh it's gonna have a
notch bloody hell um so then like that's it
like i'm not a samsung fanboy or anything in fact i put up that video recently
talking about the battery drain issues that i've had with samsung
note 9 has actually been better lately um i'm at 66 today which is about
right from when i was using the uh pixel to itself
um my phone's brutal right now i need a new phone
yeah i've hardly touched mine actually no i've no i've actually used mine today
and it's at 66 my basically the screen has been off all
day pretty much and it's draining 76 okay
i mean that sounds pretty good to me from the kinds of issues that i've had
but mine's behaving well right now so it's a first gen pixel xl and i've
thrashed it pretty hard over the years but like what choice am i gonna have
anymore word on the street google's removing it
one plus is removing it like one plus i actually had i thought they were gonna
be the standout i thought they were gonna hold out but
they're somewhat at the mercy of their parent company right
like they do their own thing in certain ways like their oxygen skin
i think is better than their parent company's skin just
hands down better um some stuff they do differently
but because they're kind of a relatively small division
um i think they do have to rely somewhat on the tooling and on the investments of
their parent company and it looks like that's just becoming the reality in
smartphones now is they need that extra space and
they'd rather use it for i think one plus a statement said something about
like more innovative features or something
android phone equals 60 chance to kaboom that's
bs what's that someone in the chat said android phone equals 60 chance to
kaboom and that's just what does that even mean i think you
he's saying the battery's gonna explode 60 of the time which is just completely
bs that's just a stupid thing to say that
wasn't a super chat was it no because that's not super that was from twitch
um we gotta figure out how we're doing this because there's people
that subscribe and stuff on the twitch side
and like we can absolutely have twitch donations too
but we've never addressed anyone on twitch well i think twitch is gonna i
think twitch is gonna probably boot us at some point for our dual streaming and
being a partner so it might not be an issue
um yeah that makes sense all right you know what let's do a
couple let's do a couple super chats towards the end here and then i guess
we'll kind of did notice in in the partner agreement that i signed
yeah it's actually only for gaming really i wonder if yours might be too
oh that's interesting i'm allowed to do any form of content
on any other streaming platform that isn't gaming oh
or that is a game that is not allowed on twitch
okay yeah so kang what do you think about
apple products getting more and more expensive yet there's less and less
innovation involved okay so first of all i disagree
um because when a product becomes commoditized
it actually means that in order to try to differentiate you have to be
more innovative going from 14 nanometer down to 10 down to seven
just sounds like a linear progression but it actually gets
much more difficult so there's just one thing right off the hop
number two is that integrating better hardware that you just get from someone
else so you just buy the latest uh reference
design from qualcomm and you build a chassis around it and you
bolt some stuff to it um that is relatively easy
designing a gpu from the ground up building your own os your own
cloud infrastructure for backups like the kind of stuff that apple invests in
is not not innovative it just doesn't seem like it because a lot of it's in
the software so i i don't agree at all that
google and apple are not innovating i think it's just in a way that's not as
exciting to us hardware geeks that's all it's just in a way that's
that's just doesn't float my boat and doesn't float
your boat um and i think as it gets harder and
harder yeah it gets more expensive someone someone in chat said dude you
boys are the only reason i'm on twitch oh uh well we're still going to be
streaming to twitch until they kick us off so i would also take that almost the
other way you can drop a platform adam okay normally i i don't make a point
of calling out how much a super chat donates
but adam put in 20 bucks and then says pre-ordered my iphone 10s max
that so adam clearly can afford the 20 bucks
because the iphone 10s max do you know how much this thing is uh
in canada with everything is it going to be like over two grand
for the top end model yeah is that the top end model
uh i don't know well no because there's different capacities this is the pro
okay yeah yeah and adam says yes i have a problem yeah
no kidding um what's your thoughts on the red phone
it's red no no no no oh which one is this
red company not red color oh no i don't know about this
what the mkbhd has been tweeting photos oh that red yeah yeah yeah sorry i see
i had project red just like stuck in my brain i was like
that's why i said red company because i know that apple had a project red
phone what but like project red now has their own phone that's weird
all the red phone so i'm pretty pissed off
to be perfectly honest with you you didn't get one uh i did
i ordered one i ordered two oh yeah i ordered both skews this is a
snapdragon 835 based product that still isn't here
and that for some reason even though i pre-ordered at the same time as
anybody else other people are getting exclusive sneak peeks with
and i haven't seen hide nor hair of it and the weird
the really stupid thing like okay actually oh you know what okay let's
talk about the red hydrogen one so i got an email from red and we're
actually going to be collaborating with red on an upcoming project hopefully i'm
not jeopardizing that right now but if it does then i guess that is what it is
but i got an email from red inviting me to be part of a select few
customers who will get the hydrogen one early for the purposes of providing beta
user feedback which is not inherently a problem except
for one key thing i'm just i want to make sure that i get
this right because it's very important hydrogen
one following up on your interest about
hydrogen one is this it no uh they invited me to some
event and i was like no i can't make it um where is it shoot
houdini project is that what it's called yes
here we go so i just need to make sure i've got the right email
okay so this is ridiculous so you you get the phone early but
you have to you can't talk about it so i was like well if i can't review it i
don't want it early because it's not a retail
unit it is a pvt sample so that is a pre mass production unit
to be very clear the thing a normal company does with the pvt sample
is destroy it because it is not like industry standard not considered
suitable to deliver as an as a final product to an end user now i
wouldn't have a problem with this if red's intention was to take beta
feedback and then take your pvt back and send you
an mp unit but they are not what you are agreeing
to is that you will not
get a mass production unit and this is for a phone that you paid a thousand
dollars for or whatever is that not ridiculous so the terms and
conditions of this houdini project were just utterly ridiculous to me i
already read one insane thing yeah so i i do intend to talk about that
in my hydrogen one good because that one line
that i read is ridiculous because that is not the way you do business
so anyway on that note um thank you for watching the land show and we will see
you again next week same bat time same bat channel oh wait
um whoa what the heck someone just sent a 200 super chat i am
blur saw dennis's dirty apartment in your
recent gaming upgrade vid please use this 200 to buy him a few
hours with a cleaning service and record the nastiness for channels
super fun i can't we can't do something like that i mean we
honestly almost got him in trouble with his landlord filming in there at all
what it's a whole thing um don't worry about it
but um okay that's awkward um
thank you everyone for watching damon michael mitchell and i am blur you guys
are very nice people how do i how do i get myself out of
this nicely oh show's over