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There was a massive Xbox leak that revealed plans for consoles controllers games and dreams of
acquisitions this week and the amount of
Clickbait that I saw around this has been absolutely
Colossal like I clicked on this one article that was like Microsoft planned to acquire Nintendo
Yeah, and as I'm reading through the article. I'm sitting here going no. That's not what happened at all
like I
clicked it because I went well surely they couldn't be stupid enough to think that like the
the government of Japan and Nintendo itself would
What for for money like sellout to
Microsoft like that it's it's not even it's not even conceivable
And I was like surely they couldn't have gotten too far into these top. No there were there were no talks
There was no there was no Microsoft
The Nintendo acquisition that
All who said it was it was it Phil Spencer
I don't remember, but someone basically said that would be a career-defining moment or something like that well
Yeah, it would that would be an industry
Defining moment if Nintendo has been around for like what a hundred and fifty years or whatever it is
Hey Linus got what wouldn't be sick if we acquired mr.. Beast. Yeah. Yeah, so news news
Here comes the deck Serto article
You know Linus almost acquired
those beasts
Yeah, what's happened?
feastables more like tech
typical
That's our new chocolate bar the quick bits
That's not bad
We've quick bits for like a bagged snack. We wanted to do a cereal at one point. That'd be pretty good
I know it's a really good name for a cereal
Oh
Yeah, dang we also have we also have
Linus cat tips quick bites and quick bits in the production in the production queue. Do you know what Linus cat tips are?
No, okay, so I want to make like a cat teaser. Oh a cat toy, and then it would have interchangeable tips, and they'd be
It doesn't doesn't matter
Yeah, I'm really sorry anyway a Microsoft employee appears to have mistakenly uploaded a large trove of
confidential documents both redacted and
Unredacted to a legal court website used in the trial between the FTC and Microsoft this has resulted in what is possibly the largest
Leak of Xbox related information to date most of it from 2020 and onward on the hardware side
project Brooklyn was a diskless Xbox Series X refresh and
Project Elwood an equivalent series s console that were scheduled to launch in fall 2024. I shouldn't say was
I mean, maybe at what anything leaked could be could not be
You never know things can things can be developed really quickly sometimes and
projects that seem like they're just about across the line can get axed so who knows a
Next-gen hybrid cloud console that uses both local and cloud processing is scheduled
allegedly for
2028
That is actually farther out than I expected really yeah
I mean looking at how hard they were pushing
Looking at how hard they were pushing the cloud with Xbox Series X. I thought it sounded like they're gonna do this with Series X. Yeah
sebile an elite style controller with haptics that double as speakers a
lift to wake feature and direct to cloud connectivity similar to stadia
Man, this is cool one document showed a mock-up of a first-party Xbox handheld
But handheld was listed as not in scope for first party on what can only be described as a
funding pyramid
What hey?
Interesting not in scope for first party so what they would allow an ecosystem of Xbox handhelds like kind of
Logitech gcloud kind of thing or oh
That'd be that would be super cool and what else what else we got here? Oh?
however the Keystone cloud
Console is in the funded section despite being cancelled last year before this document was generated, okay, so
Take all of these leaks with a grain of salt, but definitely cool stuff then on the gaming side
Bethesda parent company xenomax had a planning document listing several upcoming games
Yeah, including a doom game called year zero
Dishonored 3 a ghost wire Tokyo sequel an Indiana Jones game
That what the Indiana Jones yeah, I was for yeah, that'll either be
Amazing or more likely kind of terribly trash. Yeah. Yeah, probably terrible. I mean you never know
I mean I didn't have a lot of hope for the 2016 Tomb Raider reboot
Yeah, that was actually very good ended up being excellent
It's it's one of the few games in the like at that time in my life when I was very busy that I actually
Played all the way through it was very good a lot a lot of movie tying games are not good
I just call Tomb Raider a movie tie-in game
Is it not I
Didn't play the ones when we were really young was there no like super old-school Tomb Raider movie
I know the newer Tomb Raider movie was not good
But I thought those were like remakes of some super old thing gonna quietly ask you to leave. I don't know honestly
I just don't care
But I was gonna say spider-man my actual point wasn't Tomb Raider it was spider-man came out and was actually surprisingly good
I thought that's also not adapted from a movie
Yeah, it is actually
Obviously originally, there's the comic books, but I'm pretty sure the game is based on the movie is it not yeah, so nice try bucko
Moving on from not sort of it's specifically pulled from the movie people are so mad
I'm totally twisted what he's saying. Yes, so much worse than it, and they just dove right with you
I'm just glad they're mad at you for a change. Yeah. Yeah, that's the guy. I'll take that
Moving on from there there's remasters of oblivion and fallout 3 which
The the remit yeah the oblivion movie the oblivion movie
Oblivion is a comics based on the Elder Scrolls. Yeah graphic novel. It's called the Elder Scrolls. It's from a comic
It's from a scroll. Yeah a lot of them. They're old. They're multiple scrolls
Come on
Buried in a vault the the move to remaster oblivion. I honestly think is really weird
Really why because of sky oblivion, and I honestly bet you at this point sky oblivion will be better than the oblivion remaster
So then they just issue a cease-and-desist
So that they can sell oblivion remastered
I think that would be honestly hard for them to do because it's a mod of Skyrim given how given how
Precarious their relationship with the modding community seems to be kill it yeah
Because this is this has been such an incredibly long-running project from people that are seen as very good members of community. You know I
Don't know I don't know I think that'd be really bad
but to me like the especially cuz sky oblivion is the furthest along one because there's a
What is the what is the Morrowind called more when one called oh, I was in the chat Boomer Scrolls Wow cool stop
Yeah
Skywind is the is the Morrowind version of that project which as far as my understanding goes is not anywhere near as far along as the
Probably more challenging. Oh, I'm sure
Yeah
Business stuff from executive emails by at least 2020 Microsoft apparently had write-ups outlining the potential value of acquiring
Nintendo and valve though they apparently saw no means to do so yeah
They were likewise interested in purchasing the US branch of tick-tock and Warner Brothers interactive
Phil Spencer said acquiring Nintendo would be a career moment. Okay, so it was Phil Spencer
There's confirmation that Microsoft is primarily interested in Activision Blizzard for King the makers of Candy Crush. How sad is that I?
Mean, I don't know. I don't know
What's worse the fact that?
Activision Blizzard has fallen so far that
We don't care about IPs like Diablo or Warcraft compared to
Candy Crush or the fact that gaming has
Or at least the the money made in gaming has shifted so heavily to mobile
Like whale whale harpooning games like Candy Crush
That I think that's the worst part that that those that that traditional model is
Not really interesting at an executive. You know
Return for shareholders level anymore, that's
Wow
Yeah, honestly
the
the heights that Blizzard fell from and the heights that Activision fell from are both like
incredible
both of those studios were just like top of the freaking world and have totally fallen off so
That's a big part of it
I think the the games that they've been releasing are are
Pathetic shadows of what they used to so I don't know
But also yeah people eat into that model so like it's I don't even know what you say at this point
Because gamers are gonna buy stuff it just happens in one exchange
Activision execs described the Nintendo switch 2 as closer in power to last-gen ps4 and Xbox one which
Makes a lot of sense have you seen the recent rumors that the switch 2 will be as powerful as a ps5
or an Xbox Series X
No, what are you talking about? That's not how that works if it is a mobile
device which as far as I can tell most people seem to be indicating that it will be a switch to a
Direct sequel kind of like the Super Nintendo or the Wii U right?
What could possibly make you think it will have anywhere near in the same article, I'm reading
I'm reading people who are saying it will be based on Nvidia's ampere
Architecture and
It will be a mobile device, and it will have the same performance as a PlayStation. What are you talking about?
Oh my god Conrad just said it's gonna be called the switch you just to make it extra confusing that would it be amazing
I should just call it switch off at that point because no one's gonna tune into that forget it
Like I feel like I feel like this is the same conversation that we had back when Tesla announced that every one of their cars
That they had that they were shipping would be capable of full autonomous driving
And I'm sitting here going look. I don't know everything about everything certainly not I there's lots of things
I don't know or don't understand the intricacies of but one of the things that I do know is that at that time
Microprocessor technology even if even if Tesla was five years ahead of the competition
there was no there was no roadmap to
the kind of
the kind of AI
Inferencing that we were going to need for full self-driving like because remember
Self-driving full autonomous operation is not
99% of the time or 99.9% of the time think about it if it was
99% accurate in a hundred hours you would spend one hour doing the wrong thing
On the road that is not okay
That's horrible
99.9% of the time if it was that good
Every thousand hours you could be
Spending an hour driving down the wrong side of the road or on the sidewalk or a more minor error there are yeah
There are there are a little bit of there are some issues with interpreting it that way
But it's also not that wrong. Yes, but I would say if you if you evaluate it, so okay
You're right and based on how that thing is laid out. There's no way to
Know how that should be interpreted because you don't know the severity of these errors yes, but looking at like
People driving down the road what percentage of the time are they doing the wrong thing?
By looking somewhere incorrectly or just absent-mindedly like not really seeing what's in front of them stuff like that
It's probably extremely high
But they're probably also not driving down the wrong side of the road like you're giving for an example
And there's no way to differentiate those levels of errors. That's true
And and and we we don't know for sure if like you said
Humans are making are spending you know yeah one one out of every hundred or one at every thousand hours like
Completely doing the wrong thing. I you know people run red lights. It happens. It will fall asleep with a wheel yep hundred percent
I think what we can all agree on is that
Meg's 1991 says in the floatplane chat Luke thinks Mario Bros is based on a movie
I
Didn't know I didn't know how I just don't know how you got it so wrong Luke. It's Tomb Raider who cares
Why does anyone
13-year-olds care I was you don't like pyramids look when did the first Tomb Raider game?
Game release
What was I like five or something
200 gold is 1998 all right, so I was
1996 in October so I was five
Could have been a movie. I don't know why do I care I?
Don't know maybe you were a precocious youngster and already a pyramid enthusiast
I do I might have been at that point. I'm not sure you I well you either
Recently were or you were going to be one soon
It is interesting that there's a bit of a gap there yeah, yeah, yeah, so we ended up
Talking about nursing Luke. I'm sure nobody had that on their bingo
This is pretty interesting so in a floatplane chat linked to me
One of the leaked versions that oh this isn't working anymore since we
Restarted past reindex broken can't show you my laptop, but it's a one of the leaked documents
Says gaming there's a picture of Master Chief because of course there is and then it says gaming devices. Oh there
We go yeah gaming devices past to 2030
Console business is the foundation damn it Microsoft
Consoles are considered a key health meter for the brand and will continue to drive majority of revenue and subscribers into 2030
New endpoints are that so they'll very unimportant right now. Yeah, me too. This is the interesting part though
It's like they kind of shift immediately after saying that so they say consoles of the foundation
This is the health meter all that kind of stuff
And then they say like to get 200 million members though
Unlocking new off console endpoints and improving the experience will substantially grow subscribers over the next eight years
Okay, so which one is it Microsoft exactly? That's an interesting bad presentation point to be fair
I think they're saying it's the foundation
This is our majority that type of stuff, but we need to write so they're saying that to build a pyramid
They have to have a lot of consoles yeah, and then they have to have a sharp point of endpoints
Yeah, and then they turn it on the side. Yeah
Hahaha
Controller
Controller becomes the hero is point number three the new Xbox controller is the only thing you'll need to play on a on every new
Device this new low barrier of entry will fuel subscriber growth
So subscriber growth, so they're just talking about like yeah, that's it. That's all they care about that's it game pass, baby
Yeah
Personalization and customization personalization
Customization continue as a hardware strategic advantage and a key profit driver and customer delighter
Never heard that word before but sounds good. Yeah, I've heard like delighting customers being a bit delighter a customer delay
Yeah, I don't know if I've heard of a customer delighter before but I also don't spend a ton of time in gentleman's clubs
So yeah, yeah or pyramids
Sustainability and accessibility continued progress towards reduction of carbon tax impact
Re-energizing our journey of inclusion personalization. It's interesting to me that they would think that
Personalization is a strength of Xbox they do
Know it doesn't you got to send us back there. We go they do they do
Push their custom controllers a lot. Yeah, but why honestly I think a lot of people buy them. Why not the console though?
Customization of the console yeah like look at how Sony is doing with with the PlayStation 5
Dark plates or whatever the first party one is called the dbrand thing
like I
Avon Fox says Tomb Raider was a pyramid scheme. Yeah, that's how they made money
It kind of was it was kind of what yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, that's interesting
Don't really you know shop for Xbox as much
I don't even think they've done much in the way of the Xbox is this time around like we had this all black
We had this super cool like gears Xbox 1x. That was sick, or was it a 1s
I don't remember, but you have one of those actually yeah, let's did you steal it from work. No, okay?
How'd you get why the hell do you have an Xbox long story? I turned it on one time
I'm interested in this still under my TV though. I would like to hear I'd like to hear the story. I wanted the controller
So
We found his weakness we found the thing that will make Luke no no no no no I didn't buy it oh my god
I wanted the controller, so I had the the red. I should have known better gears controller
Yeah, that I probably stole from work
Yeah, that definitely I think it disappeared
I've had it for like years it was before there was a lounge
So I don't know where I got it from I might have got it from willow actually I'm not sure
Nice backtrack, it's possible good job technically possible
But I had the red gears controller
And I wanted to play an HL with my brother because they won't release NHL on PC since like what was it like
96 or something like no no it was in the 2000s like 2005 or 2006 so maybe it's 2006 yeah
But yeah, they haven't released NHL on PC in forever so my brother, and I want to play on Xbox
and
I wasn't I didn't really want to buy an Xbox, but I had
Plans of how we could play an NHL game on the TV
Don't worry about it through cloud streaming sure
But anyways I'd wanted more Xbox controllers, and I couldn't find just getting just the gears controller
Cuz that's all I wanted I didn't actually want the Xbox
So I reached out to a contact and was like can I buy just the controller?
And
Then they sent me the whole thing I
Don't know they were gonna do it, so you leveraged your you know contacts here. I did not meet this person through work
He knows what he did
Okay, so you have an Xbox turned on once well. No. I've had it for like four years or something
Yeah, they got a really great value out of that yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, hey
I mean the good news is it can never you know red ring of death
Okay, cuz I know that's not an issue with the series you'll even write Xbox one s or whatever remember I got that TV
Yeah, the TV was more or less also so that I could like have people over oh
Right and then that was like that was a week before COVID happened. Yeah
How'd that go for you
It's like exclusively my girlfriend I don't ever use it
I think you had I think you had an inkling that that was gonna happen at the time though
I did yeah, cuz you were like yeah, I don't care about the TV, but this is the good one right
I'm like yeah, you're like okay. Yeah, that's exactly how it happened. Yeah, okay, that makes sense
I did zero research. I called Linus like on the way to the store. It was like tell me what to do
Hey, it's a good TV. It's great
It was yeah, I worked it worked quite well
I was yeah you bought it a good time because basically there was some huge sale. You've got 4k 120 Hertz
You've got HDR support. You've got variable refresh rate with like g-sync
compatibility or whatever
so you've got basically everything you need and all that's happened since then is
They've gotten a little bit brighter basically more color gamut more brighter
They are better the newer ones are better, but if you are using them any time other than during the day with sunlight coming in I
The newer ones are better
But man are you ever having a lot of the experience with I think it's what like a c2 or something that you have c1
I don't remember. I don't remember. It's you don't honestly probably remember better than man. It might not even be no
It must be like a c10
Yeah, that sounds more. It's probably a c10. Yeah sounds more. Yeah, cuz they started over oh
Really yeah, yeah, so there's like there's so c8 and 9 and 10 or whatever. I can't remember if there was a C
Things when shows based off way show Binko
Sorry
Man, okay
Anywho Dan we don't know what to do because you don't have the cue cards up
Yeah, I lost
everything
Hey my buttons work now. I fixed the button look I just I just fixed the button there's flustered Dan
What do we do merge messages now? I don't know this one says do merge messages, okay?
To put it up there see he hit the microphone a microphone. Why are you hurting our viewers? They just end yourself. I deserve it no
This hasn't happened in so long. I don't know what I'm doing anymore. I swear this never happens to me yes
Interesting sorry hold on what hold on there's there's interesting slides in this deck
Cloud first gamers is the blue PC first gamers is the light green and console first and multi device gamers
Are we that small?
Well, okay
Multi device is yeah, that's stupid
You can't just lump multi device in with console because there's plenty of PC first gamers that are
multi-device
Yeah, that's pretty dumb that feels like someone on the console team trying to inflate juice it
Yeah, trying to juice the numbers. Yeah
Yeah, I don't know that's it yeah, that's strong disagree wow that thing is it looks like a router
It's just like a circular
Stupid like d-link had routers that looked like that I think back in the day
I
Updated technologies wow this is this leak is crazy
That actually is holy crap
Giving our fans more to love like this is this is clearly presentations that real time was spent on and are very real
Wow
Die shrink for improved efficiency
Undisputed
Yeah, I think there are a fair number of people that would dispute the series s in general and it's it's positive
contributions to console gaming
But sure
Sure, all right. Let's explain. What merge messages are and do a couple we don't do twitch bits or
Whatever the thing on super chats
Man I sleep-deprived you know there's there's different kinds of sleep-deprived sometimes
I get kind of like like like silly and then other times I get you know today. I'm just stupid
Like I actually I feel like I feel like this is what it must be like to not be very smart
Like I start a thought and I just I
Don't know how to explain this. There's there's you can you can say something
I don't understand you can apparently make rough equations or sorry rough comparisons between sleep deprivation and
Being drunk yeah
Yeah, being awake for at least 18 hours is the same as someone having a blood alcohol
Content level of zero point zero five percent being awake for 24 hours is equal to having a blood alcohol content of zero point one percent
sick
Well see I'm not sleep
That way it's more cumulative
Yeah, I think that's a harder one to measure, but I'm sure it has a similar effects. I I have I've had a really big
I've had a really big project on the go lately we
finally
Finally have the one you land center gaming systems up
You know what we can talk it we can talk about it a little bit later on the show first
Let's explain our merge messages
So we don't do those normal kinds of
Messages to shows because we think they're kind of a bad value for the viewer
what if we don't see them or what if we see them and
Frankly, they're not very you know relevant, and we don't respond to them, then you basically got nothing you got pixels on a screen
And and that's that's a shame, but the way that we do it. Hey you get your pixels on the screen sup Alexander G
Our producer Dan will go through some of the merge messages and either reply to them himself like to Alexander G
Or send them to us to address later on the show or
None of that happens, and hey you just get your order in the mail and you get like a sick
T-shirt or a hoodie or water bottle or a screwdriver or whatever the case may be
So you just gotta go to the merge message box in the cart and whenever we are live fill out the merge messages field
And then go ahead and place your order and it gets dumped into the queue for producer Dan Dan
Do you have a couple of a couple of merge messages for us? I do actually first one here
Hey, lld given the amount of times you talk about tech related lawsuits or legislation
Have you considered adding legal experts to the team to review them so we know exactly how it's affecting us?
I think for the most part
Unless you are an enormous company
You you generally seek legal advice on a consultancy basis like I mean even I'm thinking like even you know the CNN
You know Fox News's of the world
They
Okay, hold on hold on just a second. They obviously have internal legal con legal counsel
Oh, but they'll also have but they but when they're but for the content
They bring in legal contributors who my understanding is a lot of the time are not necessarily paid
They're paid in exposure on the network is my understanding and to be clear
I'm not I'm not suggesting. This is not a call for lawyers to consult for me for free
It's just what I'm saying is that I don't I don't necessarily know that media organizations will just
Have a lawyer on staff because the thing about law is it's not just you don't just hire a lawyer specialized
It's very specialized. So if we were going to talk about, you know copyright or if we were going to talk about
for example
Patent
Patent law or if we were going to talk about
Won't even be surprised if financial crimes, you know CNN style legal team would almost be a legal team that
Like works through contractors or like finds the right
No, yeah knows who to know and who to who to bring in for you know a relevant take on whatever the the topic du jour
Is yeah, I could totally see that
Yeah
That Tavis says I have an ex-prosecutor as my company's legal counsel, sometimes they can pivot I mean that's true
But what if they what if they don't or what if they make a mistake would I be better off just you know?
bringing in someone to consult for us on a
You know whenever needed I yeah, I don't know. It's not something that it's not something that's on our radar right now
I think right now we're just really focused on making really great content got a lot of really exciting stuff lined up
Oh man, there's something I really want to tell you guys about but I guess I can't really do it yet soon soon
I will tell you guys soon, but I'm very excited about it all right Dan. What else you got for us
Sure last one here dear Dan Linus and Luke and wan crew my 22 year old autistic brother dropped
$120 on Mario Kart tour last week. Do you have any tips on how I can help him not be susceptible to this kind of thing?
Oh man
This is a tough one
It's funny because this I'm having almost having like a deja vu moment
Cuz somebody asked me something recently that was like how do I prevent this?
Like grown ass person. Yeah, that's that's the problem from doing something. Yeah, and I was like
Well there you can't yeah like from from like like legally
Morally like all of these ease
They are an independent
Person who can who can make I think there's some I think there's some layers here their own decisions
Did they want to do that?
Is this like an impulse control problem after the fact?
They're like I wish I didn't do this that type of stuff then maybe there's some opportunities to step in is it their money
Yeah, I mean if it's not their money you remove the card from the account or if it is their money
But they're going to be reliant on you now
To replace that that's things they would have spent that's where that's where things can get very complicated with family obviously
we don't know much about the dynamic here, but like I
Would I would hazard okay?
Can can your brother afford it is another question that I would be asking so you know if it if it is
if it is his money and
He can afford it then
But then you know I I don't know right because I would want to intervene
So what in spite of everything we just said like I would I would want to do something if I saw if I saw one
of my siblings
throwing away money at at
different colored pixels
That kind of money, so I I it's in a week. Oh, yeah, no I
Understand and my assumption oh go ahead
My understanding here is not anywhere near
Good enough, but I
I believe
People on the spectrum can be very fixated on certain things sure yeah, but maybe they find and
Very very high amount of enjoyment from this and they have the money if though if those if all those things line up
Then whatever it's an adult making an adult decisions. It is what it is, but
Like you were saying does this now make them reliant on someone else's money sure is this not their money
Is this all these other different types of things?
And did they did they want that to be the reality at all like this might be a situation where they came to this person
who sent in the merge message and
Like potentially asked them for help. We don't know how regular of an occurrence
Maybe this is something that where this is not the first time that they've spent you know a hundred plus dollars on
You know on a mobile game essentially, right?
I personally
I
Find that adding steps to things is like really beneficial to make you not do it
Like one of the one of a money-spending hack that I know a few people that have done is they'll they'll
Stop carrying certain cards. Yeah, and just carry cash. I took the Twitter app off my phone. Yeah, I still have Twitter
Yeah, I can access it on a desktop would install it again if I really want
Yeah, if I really want to look at something I can I can open the page in a browser at least I could until they
Like need that more difficult sick
But but you add these barriers, so maybe just don't let the mobile device remember your card, or if it has to remember your card
Just
Remove the card after the transaction
Yeah, nighttime astronaut says it's predatory from the company. I'm a disability advocate, and I'm neuro spicy
We are targeted by ads purposefully. Yeah, that's um. I'm sure that's a thing that's
Nasty, I'm also
Totally convinced. That's the thing yeah. Oh, I mean there's really believe. There's no question in my mind that that's the thing. It's just
It doesn't change that from a legal standpoint
This is a grown adult, and you can't you you can't tie someone down and go like
No, no more Mario Kart tour
Yeah
But yeah, I mean other other than just other than here's a yeah
Here's a weird potential idea sure try to get them hooked on
A
Different Mario Kart that doesn't have microtransactions, but that's the problem is it's not as hooking
The the the the the gacha mechanisms are not built into those games
Yeah, but there's still fun. I know but it's a marker eight. It's great game. It's different
Yeah, no, it's it's different. It's not the same thing show us some enjoyment play it play it with them have fun. I
Don't know yeah, there is there that's a good point there isn't a substitute for spending time together
Yeah, so like maybe maybe I don't know this is this is possibly not fair, and I'm volunteering this person's time, but
That's probably the approach that I would try to
If I if I saw that someone that I knew and cared about was having a toxic relationship with something
I would try to help them go in a different direction
But not make them, but just make it voluntary like hey you clearly really like Mario Kart
You're playing this version of it that has gotcha microtransactions that sucks
I'm down to play Mario Kart 8 with you
Go and go play that
Let's get all the unlocks in the game because you can unlock all these different kite things and wheels and all this kind of stuff
Let's focus on doing that
Let's do it together, and then you go play that together, and then they get hooked on that game and it's
Potentially a little bit better. I don't know just an idea
It's unfortunate, but
Yeah, I don't know I
Don't have a way to solve this I mean I see people kind of talking through different possibilities in the chat
and you know you've got the you know government regulation is going to be one that's always going to be a
controversial a controversial topic in these things right because you've got advocates on the one side saying we need
Regulation we need regulation because these companies are just going to exploit vulnerable people
And then you've got people on the other side going look we can't regulate ourselves into a nanny state if
If a grown adult wants to buy a product or service
Why shouldn't they be allowed to buy a product or service, and I think there's compelling arguments both ways
I don't think this is a simple black-and-white issue
and I
I'm reminded of the the news
I think this was also this week was either this week or last week that neuro link is looking for human volunteers
For early implants, and I'm kind of sitting here going
You know these obviously these are going to be grown adults
Hopefully you know of sound mind and body who are making the decision to be to be guinea pigs for for their experimentation
should this even be legal and it's like I
Guess I mean it's your body, but I mean it's in some parts of the world isn't suicide technically illegal I
Don't I don't think there's a what is that? What does that mean?
I don't think there's a punishment for it to the person who is dead obviously, but it can affect things like for example
Your insurance I know that I don't know that it's the illegality that would affect that but you know if you kill yourself
You don't get the insurance payout
Yeah noodles it says in the chat in the u.s.. Suicide is illegal
Huh like okay?
Well put you in jail
Yeah, it's illegal in the UK too says nightpaws. What does it mean so is it just an insurance thing?
Cuz that yeah apparently it's illegal so the police can get involved without a warrant
That's interesting
Ian Ian Xmas says gambling needs to be monitored in control
I mean sure, but where's the line right like look how was it gambling look?
How long it took to regulate like what's the name of this game again Mario Kart what Mario Kart tour?
To her mobile game
Super got it. Oh people are saying it's illegal so that trying so attempting it can be punished like yeah, okay?
Accomplished with that seems I don't know man
So you can be forced to get help
You know that's okay. That's that's something
It's also the way you're gonna throw them in jail for it like what do you think that's good?
Yeah, also if someone helps you they can be charged with aiding and abetting
Okay, so I think I'm cool with that turns out there are some good reasons. I'm sure there's I don't know
That's a very nuanced topic there 100%
I
Transactions remain the game yeah, I'm not certain if the
Mario Kart 2 or if the microtransactions are just like buying a thing or buying a dice roll
Got it. I don't I don't know what they are yeah, I'm not sure
All right, do you want to give us one more merch message Dan?
Yeah sure
See what I've got here
Boom hey, lld what kind of actions would you have to take of any if a mr.
B sized creator wanted to join flow plane I
Think if I'm mr.
B sized creator wanted to join we'd probably have to beef up the infra just a little bit
I would imagine they'd have some special requests in terms of
Tools they would want built for engagement with their audience. That's pretty common
Yeah
as long as they're not
Too onerous like as long as there's something that we could
Sort of try to fast track or get on a road map or they're willing to be a little bit patient
I would think at this point not
too much
You know don't don't quote me on that right there's stuff that we would need to do
But there's solutions that we can implement that could
Solve it like we'd be fine
All right, why don't we jump into our next topic Luke you want to pick one sure
Me sick I was looking at tomorrow car to her stuff
Do we have the co-pilot thing
It's all sick we have it. Oh nice. Okay. Well should we do that should we use it?
Okay, so you're still doing stuff. Okay. Well. Let's let's maybe do that later. Oh
I see oh cool
No no 1080 is fine
You keep poking with that. I'll talk through the topic on Thursday Microsoft announced Microsoft copilot in Windows
Which you may have thought they already announced, but you may be thinking about github copilot
which was announced in 2021 Microsoft 365 copilot which was announced in March 2023 or
Windows copilot ever more different than you know anyways that was announced in May 2023
Microsoft copilot in Windows rather is the unification of the company's disparate chatbot like services rebranded with a
New colorful logo and an actual release date this Tuesday September 26
Finally a release date on any AI product is fantastic
The feature will roll out in Windows 11 in its early form accessible through the windows plus C key
Keyboard shortcut, okay, I'm not gonna lie. I'm actually like very excited to try this right now
No, this is this is interesting Dan has a laptop for us because we've had we've had a lot on the floor
Why is he putting it on the floor? I don't want floor. It's not. I don't like things on a movie Dan
Yeah, yeah floor laptop laptops are not based on movie the movie
the movie of the game
As Microsoft revealed when announcing Windows copilot copilot can pull data from a user's calendar email
Documents so nothing from anyone who's using Google for all of those things I guess
Anything Microsoft app related to help you answer questions and perform tasks it can also help you control your desktop itself
You can tell it to arrange windows change system settings launch specific Spotify play less way and much more okay?
Well, let's do stuff. Yeah, try to arrange some windows pull open some stuff
I mean there's no apps on here the back of that laptop is very distracting. Yeah, I know right
I don't know how to turn that off imagine having that in a class I
Mean, I think that's sort of the point you just piss off the teachers peacocks super hard. Yeah, just tape over it
Wow, I put a new button on your deck there when you want to switch into the the laptop oh
Sick okay, where is it? Oh one his yeah? Oh do you want one? No? No? It's fine everybody can have a button
They're free there you go
Here's two oh
They're like ducks at the park yeah, they're free you just take them home
like domain names
Despite the unification Microsoft's branding is still all over the place concerning commercial customers who can also consider using Bing chat
Enterprise and Microsoft 365 co-pilot the latter of which will be available for enterprise customers November 1st. I didn't know that
Enterprise Microsoft 365 co-pilot is
Gonna be very interesting. Hopefully it's not trash
We'll see opening I also announced Dolly 3
Which the company says does a lot better than other modern text image systems at not ignoring words in prompts
It can also actually generate text in an image properly as seen here
and then there's a little example that I'm gonna jump to I
Just
Feel so empty inside which is amazing for people who have messed with these things in the past because the text was always just like
Garbledy-gook no real letters. Just kind of some weird
Shape patterns where the text is supposed to be so having actual text is very
That's a that's a pretty big step to be completely honest. That's pretty cool data economy fed
Open a eyes demo prompts into mid journey and compared the outputs and it's pretty close
Apparently we're gonna check that out as well
Like this
Let's go to the beach and find the right hermit
Close-up photograph of a hermit crab nestled in wet sand with sea foam nearby and the details of its shell and texture of the sand
accentuated
Yeah, I don't know if this is a hermit crab, I don't know what a hermit crab looks like to be honest with you
Yeah, okay. Yeah. Oh, that's from Dali and mid journeys on the right, huh?
Okay, I don't know how many examples there are here we go
Dancers desire that's a really long prompt, but they actually do look pretty similar
One is just like facing us and the other ones facing away
Sheesh
Photo of a lychee inspired
I think that's how you say that I don't know inspired
Spherical chair with a bumpy white exterior and plush interior set against a tropical wallpaper
huh
Quite similar, and I am every time I play around with this stuff or look at it. I am just
kind of blown away
ha ha potatoes
We know a thing or two about generating potato images on Dali we do
Anyways speaking of speaking of potato no never mind. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna tease that oh wow something potato related
That's all I can say
The Dali 3 is sorry Dali 3 is in research preview now
And will be available to chat GPT plus and enterprise customers in
October and will of course be integrated into Bing and various Microsoft apps and services as well
Lastly there were new service surface devices announced all with very iterative upgrades business insider and Windows Central say
That this is part of the reason for formal surface chief panos panays
Sudden departure this week after 20 years at the company surface laptop studio 2
with an Intel 13th gen core i7 h-class chip
Various ones I suspect at different price points an RTX
4050 or 4060 Intel neural processing unit and up to two terabytes of
Like dedicated storage and 64 gigs of RAM starts at around
1999 I say around because they don't specify what chip it is and there's two different GPU models, so I don't know
Surface laptop go three pretty much just internal upgrades same
12.4 inch screen now has Intel 12th gen in not 13th
I guess instead of 11th and starts at 799
Surface go for for business same chassis as go 3 Intel core Intel door
Lula Intel dual core Pentium
I got there in go 3 replaced with quad core Intel n200 marked for business. Do not have fun with it
It's illegal that's right Riley wrote that right yeah, yeah, I assumed
I don't even have the dock open right now, but I died I know I don't technically know that
I just I didn't put it in there. Okay. Yeah, that's one of them almost certainly Riley
and then last but
Not least potentially least who knows
Surface hub 3 some minor upgrades over the hub 2s announced in March hub 3 mod
Module can be purchased and installed in existing hub 2s devices. Okay, should we just start doing co-pilot? Yeah
I've been waiting for you to do this. Oh, no, I'm ready. Okay
Tell me what to have it do do the windows organizing
This is the last conversation we had no, but I want to do come on stuff. Okay, I think what does organize a
browser for me interesting
Hmm
No, thanks, can you open a good browser Oh
Let's see, let's see if it doesn't off of this which
Please confirm the action in the dialog box that has appeared. Oh
I
Click it. Why would I have to click it?
That's weird. Sure. You can confirm what say say open in Google Chrome. I
Don't know why you would ever want to do this instead of just typing in the start menu well because
Eventually, you would want to interact with your voice not the keyboard
Yeah, like I don't see I don't see a voice input right now
Yeah, you could do your own but yeah, please confirm the action in the dialog box that has appeared. What are you talking?
Oh, it's already
He clicked it though. He said no. Thanks and they like grayed out
Hello buddy, okay
Open file Explorer
It's not a good browser. Yeah, I just I the only one I see on there is edge in Chrome. Yeah
open file explorer and show me where my
program files are
Is this gonna do anything I
Mean yes
Yes, obviously click it oh it grayed it out yeah grayed it out. It looks like it's duplicating I
Tried well, it's grayed out. It wasn't grayed out originally. All right file explorers now open you can navigate to the program possible
It's hallucinating here, I don't want to navigate
To that folder. Okay. Well, I asked you to do it in its defense
You're using it in the way that it's not it should work the way that you're doing it
But it's it's clearly not intended to be used that way. I think you should start a new chat. Let it dump
No, don't open no
Don't close that fine. You're you're a bad pilot fine
It's just trying to co-pile it but you're not you're not open file explorer
Okay, so maybe I just need to maybe I just need to click it way faster
Well, no, you're just typing something new before you click it. Yeah, okay
Well, why does it why does that second dial sure you can confirm the action in the dialog box that has appeared?
And you've already done it. Yeah, you've done it. What are you talking about those problems for sure? Okay?
Show me where my music is
I mean theoretically if I have a folder called music then it should I mean sure I guess so. Oh
my goodness
Mmm, no
Where's my music in file explorer? Wow, this is pretty rudimentary to be honest with you
Yeah, I think you need to start a whole new thread though cuz you're you're already hallucinating. Uh, no, I don't
Okay
Fine, how do I how do I new thread? I don't even see the here maybe up here. Okay, this fresh
All right. Okay, fine. Also, I will I will say here that this is not the release version
We don't well, we don't know that this is a release version or not
Are you talking to the stream right now dad Oh Dan you might as well just talk to the
Because we're just gonna sit here in silence while you talk to us. Anyway, yeah
Hey, that's nice. Okay Tomb Raider is both a movie and a game. Oh
My goodness, okay, but that's just normal co-pilot stuff
It's more of a come on
Try to try to get to do cool things open some windows get it to organize it. Come on. I'd rather bother you
Oh my goodness
More of one than the other it's gonna start as a video game series in
1996
Mmm, iconic protagonist Lara Croft again when I was five
Do you think that's an excuse Luke
Is this enterprise if you only get four prompts on free like Bing this would be useless
Using it properly
So like who knows if it's useless or not
He's like being antagonistic to the to the poor little. I'm not
Yes, you are. It's it's presenting an option. Yes or no click these buttons, then you're not clicking it. Okay fine
Well, they took they went away. They got grayed out because you typed something more
I shouldn't have to interact with my mouse for you. I agree, but clearly it's designed that
Is properly
You can criticize that it's it shouldn't work that way you can criticize it
It should risk it should work off of your texted response, but you can also use it properly at the same time come on mr.
reviewer man
Tell me tell me what you want me to have it do I've wanted you to have it organize windows literally this whole time
okay, fine open steam and
open
Chrome and why would I want it to do that and
Organize their windows. I mean what what am I?
How could it possibly hope to do this for me? I don't know whoa
Yes, oh whoa
Yes, oh wow. This is yeah. Why would I need three prompts for this?
I snapped a window for you. You didn't so it did the it did it all at the same time
So the apps weren't actually open yet, yeah, I'm the one making this bad Luke. Thank you. That's very helpful
No, I'd at least we've learned something now. What did we learn that it sucks?
We already learned that we learned that when you click things it actually does stuff, so that's pretty cool
You didn't organize the windows. This is not how you interact with these things why not?
Because it's just needlessly antagonistic oh
Well it worked smart guy
I'm sorry for the confusion. I can't
It also says it did it for you, and then I click yes, and it doesn't do it I
Snapped a window for you. You can snap others beside it
Okay
Can I close can I can I close steam without it appearing in my taskbar oh
I don't I don't know get can it do that for me. Can it close it to the system tray?
I don't know if I'm not signed in so I don't know if it'll behave a little bit differently here
How to close steam without it okay, so just searches for it, okay?
What are fundamental windows things that it could do it okay, so let's jump up to what it talks about
Okay
It can help you control your desktop itself you can tell it to arrange windows
change system settings and
Launch specific Spotify playlists and
Much more can I find the original thing where it lists these features, and maybe I can find them more
With over 150 new features I
Could see this being
Super super okay here. We go. This is what I've been trying to get to I'm sorry for the misunderstanding
But as an AI I don't have the ability to directly interfere interact with your computer's interface
I can provide instructions and guidance, but I can't perform actions on your computer. How did steam just?
Log that's not true though because it did perform actions on your computer, okay?
How did steam just log in
What just happened
Huh
All I had was a login screen
Someone scanned the QR code somebody logged in that's actually pretty funny
You need to make sure you fully close steam because they could remote in right, okay? That's pretty funny, though
That is excellent. Don't ever do that again, but that's hilarious
Anyway
Shouldn't laugh at that bad no
Something I have new things to write down that we need to protect anyway
But I can't perform. I can't perform actions on your computer. You'll need to follow the steps
I provided to remove the chat icon from your taskbar
Let me know if you need further assistance, so I could see this being
super super useful for people who don't want to dig into the
Three different control panels that Windows has now to figure out how to you know change your audio device one to the other
This is just Clippy try to get it to change like power modes sure
Or or like sleep settings or
What happens when you close the lid? Okay? Can you set my computer to sleep after five minutes?
Yeah, I think that's basically just gonna be
Clippy with chat GPT. Oh
It had to search for that yeah like why do you have to search for that?
Sorry, I can't do this. Can you can you start a new chat?
Can you clear this chat and then try that again? I can I?
Don't think it's gonna make a difference so Luke
I don't think it can actually interact with the system basically at all like that's why it needs that manual prompt every time it
Allegedly does something for you like open a window the notes in our doc
I'm trying to find this in the official thing, but the notes in our doc say
It can pull data from a user's calendar email documents anything Microsoft app related to help you answer perform tasks
It says it can help arrange Windows change system settings and launch specific playlists. Did it just do this?
Okay, so it opened it for you, but you have to be the one that flips the switch
Yeah, but it didn't open the right thing look at this
Please disable Wi-Fi
Sure would you like me to turn off Bluetooth for you, okay, then
It goes I open the devices page and settings well
Which one is it are you supposed to do it for me or you supposed to open this window also?
I don't have the capability to disable Wi-Fi you can do this by going to the network settings on your device
Where suppose I'm a novice user. I don't know where this is why did you give me three different answers?
Want me to do it for you here do it yourself. I can't do that I
Don't know man. I am this seems pretty bad this seems that seems pretty basic
Yeah, I want to turn off my Wi-Fi. Do we have anything?
Here does this thing have like McAfee on it or something like this is pre-loaded with any like junkware
Oh, you know what I bet it has like Candy Crush or whatever on it. What's what's the junkware that comes on on?
Windows devices didn't it used to come with Candy Crush check out paint
Paint yeah open paint. I mean isn't there new paint that has transparency now. That's kind of big news
Why are we not talking about that on my show? I forgot about it. There's a lot of cool things in new paint
Is this new paint? I don't know. I don't think so. I mean this so I had I had some concerns about us
Trying this ahead of time why this is fun. I'm having a good time. Yeah
Okay, I drew
It looks a map it looks great you start here now
You got a now you got to do that use the fill tool
To fill in some of those things and then it becomes modern art okay, and then you end up here you go
So you start at the house, and then you end it work
Got em, it's a truck. Oh
Heck yeah, it has a little like that's a little cloud coming out the back and everything and
Here's hold on hold on. Oh fine details fine details. Here's you oh?
Oh
Nice nice
Yeah
Sick
How did you get if the truck is your method of transportation though, how did you get to it oh?
I don't know what if that just shows the path that you've taken so far. Can you save the drawing I made in MS paint?
Can you do basically anything so here's here's my problem
Yeah with this is this is supposed to be a Windows update
Oops and like I'm gonna jump on a my screen really quick
Okay
New Windows 11 update delivers over 150 new features including bringing the power of copilot to the PC
copilot in Windows in preview
Paint photos snipping tool clip champ notepad
New outlook for Windows modernized file explorer all this other type of stuff. We clearly don't have all these things
What did we install just the copilot preview?
Is that right Dan pretty sure this is like the most bleeding-edge version of Windows on the planet right now
So this has the way, but it doesn't have all these other things so we we don't know how old this version of copilot is
We don't know if this is the version of copilot that they're actually gonna be launching and when they do launch it
It's going to be a preview version. I will say
Given its performance right there. I'm not the most confident in it
I
Just
Would you want it to be able to do actions without user input well, it's not without user input I am inputting
I mean okay, this is something never what if I wrote a script to pretend like this is my this is why it doesn't do
things on your computer
because
Then it's dangerous right now
Yeah, it's gonna be dangerous regardless. You could already script those things to happen
Yeah, okay
Yeah, it's not like you can do anything in here that you couldn't do in a PowerShell
Which can run in the background anyway? Yeah?
What are we what are we protecting from here exactly lawsuits?
Well, yeah, but if they were gonna sue over this they could sue over PowerShell
You know what I mean like I just I don't really I I do wonder if this is just
Just you know the starting point where it's basically chat GPT, but you don't have to go to bing.com
Which is a benefit. I mean that's something. I don't want to be dark. I just don't think we
Should say almost anything because we don't know if this is the right version
Well what we know is that this is a version that is in development
Yeah, sure, but that's not the necessarily
We're talking about this as if it's the one that people are gonna know I have no idea if that's true
I'm talking about this in the terms of how it describes itself right it describes itself as not being capable of interacting with your computer
Which was exactly what I wanted this version of it describes it that way I?
think that that is a
Significant design decision, that's not a technical thing. That's a design decision, so no
I don't think it's likely that that's gonna change in the what is it like four days before this is more broadly available
Okay, but here's the thing the one that they're showing off in the video. Yeah has a mic
This one doesn't sure this is not the right version
Sure
But I mean again that doesn't address what I said we're gonna help me focus and it automatically opens Spotify
Oh, no, it doesn't so so you have to do
Everything it just no it just did it well here hold on hold on wait we have
We haven't actually tried that yet. I thought we did no no no I was just bothering you
We never actually tried it because I asked it to open stuff then organize it and what it did was it tried to use
Aerosnap or whatever it's called now, and then it ultimately
There's there's more stuff in here that it's doing without user input hold on hold on hold on. Let's try it
Let's try it organize my windows here we go
Yeah, I would sure
So yeah, yeah, this is not how it works in their video
Isn't it a marketing video?
yeah, but like it's I
Don't we're using a version that is not the one that is going to be released. Do you think it's they're really gonna
significantly
Between the two apps we cannot say this is legit. We will get destroyed for this. This is BS
This version came out today. It doesn't matter nobody said it's legit Luke
We said this is what Microsoft has made available right now. This is an extreme preview build
Yeah, there's like four layers of extreme it's previously irrelevant because one that is clearly not this version because it has
Functionality that we can see like the mic button is being released in a couple days
And we're talking about one that is now already clearly old
Are you guys you guys I am mad you guys don't see the problem with this no not at all
Oh my god a little bit goofballs, but this is balls. They released this today, so what so
Why would we not talk about it when this is not the news article that we're addressing so
But this is what we so we read out a news article with talking points, and then talk about something completely different
Okay, can I draw it can I make it a secret no?
I won't name a certain brand LTT store releases a new shirt well
They used American Apparel shirts like seven years ago, so let's review an American Apparel shirt, but that's not comparable at all
It's like if it's like if a game developer
announced an upcoming game and announced a release date for it and showed a showed a trailer for it and then
Like you know two days later or whatever put up a preview build of it and people played the preview build and talked about it
That's what this is there is nothing wrong with that. They didn't have to make this preview build available
This is not pirated. This isn't a leak. This is something Microsoft made available
I don't think it is proper form to read a news article about something and then open up something that is clearly not that thing
Chat GPT foreign chat says Linus knows. He's wrong. He's just messing with Luke. No I
Legitimately don't I think it's completely valid if a company releases a preview to use it and talk about it 100%
They don't have to do that in in my opinion
this is a preview build of what is going to be released on Tuesday and
They exist in the preview builds for you know stability testing for the wider
Windows you know Luke is right Luke is right that we don't know that yeah, but there are certain things that
We can that we can anticipate based on what we're looking at right now
And they might they might turn out to be different, and I would I would love for this to be very different
But it's clear to me right now from from a design standpoint that this is meant to be more of a
But I think I think it's the worthy because we're saying things like it cannot do this thing yeah right now
I can't right
But it they are currently showing in their stuff that it can so we need to be clear when saying that I don't know
That might be at this it could be
So we need to be clear when saying that that this preview view build can't do this yet sure
but I can't test this thing and
Maybe we'll know when it releases on Tuesday or whenever it's releasing because like look at look at this
Turn on dark mode searching for the right action generating answers dark mode turned on
so like
Can it actually do that I don't know from our testing can we tell that it can't do that
No, because this is not the same version
But this is what they released today
It's just so irrelevant
Yeah, so look it can turn on dark mode. Did it actually do it I?
Don't think it did click. Yes. Let's see
Right, but you didn't have to click yes on their thing there you go
There's your dark mode so it can change settings, but the dark mode on their thing doesn't like
Explode over the screen all beautiful like I mean there's no way that that is gonna be a feature
Anything that's definitely not a thing so it's cool. It's clear that it's been judged up a little bit. Yes, and
What will land in however many days until it comes is probably somewhere in between?
that and this yeah, and
I would say I would anticipate it will be closer to this
And that and that is in my opinion totally fair to say sure we just have to make it very clear very clear
We are not talking about the thing that's in the news article that we're addressing the thing that's releasing around the corner
We're talking about this preview build that we have that is clearly not the same one because there's no mic
Etc etc etc if they release it on Tuesday, and there's no mic
That would be hilarious
Sure, but we can't actually say that that's like gonna be a thing or not look the only thing that I'm taking away from this
Is that it's pretty clear that the usefulness will be fairly limited. Oh, yeah, probably
It's it's very clear that if this is
Anywhere near where they were at any point in time that was not a year ago
That this is it's going to be quite limited
Yeah, so that's that's my only point. I think that's a pretty I think that's a pretty realistic assessment. You could be
I'm not even saying you could be right because all you're saying is that we don't know for sure and that's fair enough
But it could be entirely different it could also be literally exactly the preview build that we just tried
It could also be like with no change. Yeah, absolutely. We just don't know I'd be surprised if it doesn't have a mic because to me
What I'm seeing right now is this is this is
Clippy that I can interact with with my voice and it will be some combination of chat GPT and
Maybe being able to do some stuff for me
But its utility is gonna be really limited like I can already tell from that organize my windows thing
That that's not gonna be how that works
How on earth would it know which window I want to make big in the top left quadrant or yeah?
I mean, that's the other thing too is like arrow snap. I really can't remember the new branding for it
So I'm just gonna call it arrow snap forever. That's my commitment
How could it possibly know if I want one thing to take up the entire half of the screen and then I want the other?
two in quadrants
It wouldn't it would need user interaction for that
So the version that we see here honestly looks a lot more realistic
where it takes one of my windows
Snaps it to the side and kind of asked me to ask me to select another one and actually kind of useful for people that
Aren't used to windows snapping because it can get a little weird a big issue
I have with this though is the number of different ways that I'm
Expected to interact with this computer. It's
slow I either need to
Use my voice
Which I think you have to click the mic to reprompt the voice every time I think unless I well
I know that Windows has had voice prompt support in the past. Although when they killed Cortana
I don't know if that died like can you can you say hey Bing and have your mic wake up on your computer?
I don't even know I've never had a reason to bother setting that up if it even exists
So I I have to activate a voice prompt
Somehow which means I either have to touch my keyboard to hit a hotkey
Or I have to interact with my trackpad or my mouse and click on something. I
Then need to say something out loud
I then need to wait around for a data some center somewhere to receive that that
Audio file because they're probably not doing the processing locally. I then need to wait for it to searching searching
Figure out if it can do something and I then need it to apply it
It feels oh right and then in order to apply it in many cases
I'm either going to have to basically do it myself or I'm going to have to click on something or otherwise
confirm to click on the yes is like
anytime you're
Okay, I've had I've had a lot of people point out to me that I don't use
Control shift escape to open task manager and my response to that is my hands already on the mouse
My hand wasn't on my keyboard the fastest tool is the one that's already in your hand in a lot of cases
And if my hands are already on the keyboard you know by all means control shift escape
Let's go right all of your hands are on the keyboard because of typing what you just typed
So it's pop yeah the see I really hope that
The build that we get has an easier way for me to just press enter like enter to confirm enter to confirm or or maybe
Yeah, maybe it's I don't know if escape for no is good or not, but maybe enter for confirm and backspace for no I
Don't know because in a text box those both already kind of have meanings no no yeah
It would have to only work if you haven't typed anything yet, and then the second you type anything both those controls go away
Here's the only way I've thought of it working. Here's the last thing I want to know about this preview build
Okay
Hmm okay all right, what was I looking for the other day? Oh?
Yeah, this isn't gonna be any better. Oh, no
Really?
This it sleep country Canada
falls under best match and
Change when the PC sleeps when plugged in is number three
Are you?
Kidding me you guys web results really shouldn't show up in there. I
Hate it so much or the fine fine. Maybe they do
But if I search for just sleep
What are the freaking odds? What are the odds?
Microsoft that I am looking for sleep country Canada
instead of power sleep and battery settings
Also, can I can I try something? Oh, sorry not that one. Can I try something really quick here?
Can I can I open these in a new tab? I want to know what the difference is between all these different things
What are these?
Okay, so we've got change when the PC sleeps when plugged in okay, so that's power and battery hold on
Sleep okay, we've got
Holy they're different. They're different genius. Okay. We've got choosing energy-efficient sleep settings, okay
So it's just all the different things and it just highlights it
Okay
Where'd one of the other ones go Oh power sleep and battery settings
Okay, so that's just this that's just two names for the same things same thing
Sure
Okay, fine
Good enough
Wifi mattress anywhere else. Oh, no everyone's just talking about sleep country. Oh, I'm not gonna lie the second you said that that jingle
Don't
I'll say this. There's a lot of good reasons to buy a mattress somewhere else and we'll just leave it at that
Talk about one you land center. Oh, yeah. Sure. I I I have had an extremely challenging week
But also an extremely exciting week
Did you realize that the first video about the land center at the at the at the new house
Can I even call it a new house anymore?
It's got some scuffs on it. Like it's it's not new new. That's for sure
It's still it's still great and I still love it
And I'm you know, I'm really excited about all the things that we've done with it
And actually there's still still lots of plans, but I don't know if it's new anymore. So whatever my house
The first video that we did
Unveiling the one you gaming systems that we were gonna put in the rack to have like super
Super high gaming density in the rack that was almost a year ago
Since then I have had laptops that I borrowed from work
Set up at all those stations
Yeah, 11 months ago. This is my new gaming PC one you PCs for my new house part one that design
Completely thrown away
Completely gone then it gets even better
We then did a follow-up video a couple months ago. I think it was where we unveiled the all-new design
We ran into some problems it was validated quite well by the team super proud of the team, you know great job
But they didn't try a fiber optic DisplayPort cable
So what happened was the layout of that system had the GPU on the inside which is totally a thing
especially for compute-oriented
Rack mount machines where they'll just yeah, they'll just like have a bunch of GPUs lined up in there
They don't have display out anyway, so who cares these do have display out, but they had a solution to that
we were gonna have just little pass-through cables that and just have a
Like
A female jacket the back of the case to a male going into any fancier than you would have needed to do really yeah
So pretty sick. Oh, yeah, or just well a pastor just a grommet good
That's rough because all of a sudden what you're doing is way better. I'm just saying like this is not an
Impossible to overcome problem. Yeah, it's fine. Okay. There's a couple of reasons that it was
The way the internal layout was there was no
There was no space with like the power supply we needed and the GPU and the cable coming out of it like it actually didn't
fit in the width
And then number two was that if you ran something through a grommet in a rack mount you'd have no way to pull it out
Without unless you had a bunch of slack at the back, and you had it like perfect
I have one of those things we have like the coiled cable on like yeah
Like a track a bad solution like yeah, so anyway
So that design had to be substantially changed because all of a sudden
We couldn't have the GPU
Inside the case so this was a really good idea
I can't remember if this is Jake or Antoine, but someone came up with the idea of okay. We'll hold on a second
Why don't we just borrow an idea from some other GPU servers and put the GPUs at the front?
Have front IO because I mean it's rack mount right you can have yeah
Back stuff in front I mean honestly if I'd thought of it
I would put the networking in the front to why on earth
Why on earth do the vast majority of rack mount network switches?
Have all their ports at the front and the vast majority of rack mount systems have all the ports that I actually don't understand this
To be clear some do some do have ports at the front
Yeah, they definitely don't all they definitely don't all and the the vast majority of networking is in the front of the rack
It's a pretty good question
I'm sure there's reasons for it because you know just having everything
Waterfalling down the rack to the systems at the friends
It's not necessarily better than running everything around to the back anyway, but I get it. I get it
I get it, but the point is that we borrowed that idea and
We went to roll everything out and there were some big challenges it turns out that having
five different people build all five of the systems results in five different sort of
Types of mistakes that can get made so I ended up spending somewhere in the neighborhood of between like 15 and 18
Hours over the span of the Friday night the weekend and then a couple of nights this week
Putting all of the finishing touches on these systems there were some extra standoffs and one of them
that was really awkward because I had to reposition the reset switch and
The system was on and I was just plugging in a header which doesn't matter and the board flexed more than I expected because
there wasn't a standoff in a spot where there should be one and
It shorted out on a standoff that wasn't supposed to be there, so that was a really scary moment fortunately it survived
But I also man I finally I did the works
Okay, I finally did it. I custom terminated cables for every system in my rack. They are
Exactly exactly oh my god the right length
The
Water cooling to the pool is in oh
Wait for all the one used to oh yeah
There are six systems running off it now my personal machine all five of the one use right now
Right this very moment now all those systems. That's actually pretty cool are cooled by the pool
All the cable management at the back is such that I can have if I need to perform maintenance on a system
I can have it unplugged out of the rack in about 30 to 40 seconds and
I've temporarily because this is something hopefully I won't be doing a lot of but I've got a radiator pump res combo and
Tubing whips with quick connects sitting on a bench
I can have it on that bench and plugged into those in about another 30 seconds
And I can have it I can have it booted in well under two minutes
To do any kind of diagnostic anything because I ran into some weird issues out of the five systems
Two of them wouldn't update the BIOS
Just I had one that was just resetting every time
I tried to do it when it was in the rack and running over display. I mean you never know
Theoretically optical DisplayPort is totally transparent to the system
But you know I don't know that but the display would just turn off sometimes when I took it out
And I put it on the bench it just
Immediately worked and and the screen never flickered or went away, so you
You just you want to eliminate variables. You know when in doubt when something's going wrong
You just take out any
Potentially unusual
circumstances around the system
Put it on a bench you plug in just a keyboard
Just a monitor and power and that's it nothing fancy. I actually want the most whenever I'm troubleshooting
I don't want anything
Good, I want the most basic old thing that just works
Yeah, that's a long time there DVI all the techies would go around with
ps2 keyboards
Because there's like a huge chance that you USB keyboard wasn't gonna work in BIOS or whatever
100%
Man, there's gonna be there's definitely gonna be multiple videos coming
So we've got the one where we finally show the actual final build of these machines
we've got one where we do the plumbing for the whole pool water cooling and
We show
What's the order of these videos can be released in there's been some debate internally, okay? I think right now
Building a
Final final underscore three underscore final for real this time
system is coming next okay, and then plumbing and
So plumbing the house and then plumbing final state all five of them into it
Is coming next and then I actually need a bit more time to do a more thorough thermal investigation
So I had all five of the LAN systems running for mark
simultaneously which means at about
320 330 watts per
3080 they have 30 80s in them just because they are a bangin deal and I
Wanted to go EVGA one last time. Yeah, EVGA doesn't have 40 series
I also said I wouldn't go 40 series, and I was like you know what?
EVGA one last time so all of them have EVGA
XC three 3080s in them or something like that so that's about
320 watts each times five so with the CPUs as well. We're looking at about 2,000 watts now. Here's the thing
Alex and Jake talked me into using a heat exchanger
Instead of doing just the pool loop going directly into the systems and from look guys from from day one
I've known that they are right about that
but I think you guys know that I like to live on the bleeding edge and what the heat exchanger isn't is
Living on the bleeding edge because you're going to be giving up some performance
Okay, a heat exchanger operates most efficiently when the difference in temperature
Between the fluids that are flowing through it is very high
But you gotta remember one of my goals for this project is to cool the room
So it is actually
Not great for me even if it's fine for the system to have the coolant on the room side
Be 10 degrees higher than the pool yeah
So
I think it is possible that post payoff with the heat exchanger
Might come out I might figure out how to fly a little closer to the Sun and run the pool
No, and I just to just to make sure you guys understand
It's not pool water pool water yeah, there's no salt or chlorine
It's a loop that is embedded
It's just it's just plastic tubing that's embedded in the walls and the floor of the pool
So it just loses heat over that in immense distance to the concrete of the pool and to the ground
This is really cool. It was like super late. It was like 5 in the morning or something like that, and I was like
Okay, so this is neat
I can see the temperature difference with the thermal camera of the water going out of the house
And coming back in so obviously it is losing some heat out there, and we reached an equilibrium point where the
inside temperature I think was
Well, I'm gonna get some of this wrong
So there's gonna be a video and and we'll get all the details right in that but somewhere between eight and nine degree
Delta between the inside loop and the outside loop, but what I didn't know was where is the heat being lost?
Because the run is far
Like yes is it all I think you just said this, but is it all copper piping. There's no copper. Oh, it's all plastic
Oh, yeah, so it's a mixture of PVC and
I
Think it's pecs
I'm not sure exactly what the stuff they use for like in floor heating is but like that red stuff that they embedded in the
Floor for like in floor heating. It's just the opposite of that. It's in floor
Well, it's in floor heating the pool, but in floor cooling the water so
Anyway pecs so what okay there you go pecs so what I was thinking was
Wait there's an access hatch out there
What if I take the thermal camera outside and go right next to the pool and to my delight even though?
It is so far like we discovered this back when we did whole room water cooling
We weren't actually dissipating any of the flippin heat outside
Because we were just shedding all of it inside the room with the copper tubing
And I thought I'd have the same problem even though it's plastic obviously it dissipates some heat otherwise in floor heating wouldn't work right yeah
But even though it was small
There was a difference in the temperature of the water going into the walls of the pool and coming out of the walls of the pool
Think it works. I actually think
Like I I actually think it freaking works
Which is so exciting
Yes bots and float plane chat says 90 degree Delta is significant. Yeah, that's big
Yeah, but what that and what that means is that the room is not that cool. Yeah, also I
There was a there was a fundamental flaw in the plan
Because from the start I said look I want to cool down this room
But
What I didn't really account for was that the vast majority of the heat that I would be removing with this system
Was net new heat
All the switches and
Like NVRs and the servers, I'm not gonna water cool like the hard drives in my server
yeah, all that heat is not getting dumped into the water and
So all the systems that are dumping heat into the water are being added to the room so the good news is
Increasing yeah, yes, it's not substantially hotter
Yeah, but it's very clear to me that in addition to what I've got going on in there now
I'm gonna have to add like a radiator door or even just a janky
radiator plumbed to the pool water just like I had before to just
Take hot air in that hot corner of the room right behind the rack just
Run it through a radiator
Mendicile and flow plane shot said you live in Canada if you want to cool the room just put in a window one problem
It's in like them. Yeah, it's well. It's not but it also
There's no window going in yeah. Let me put it that way there. We go. No window going into it so issues there
and then to
That's actually a huge problem in BC is a lot of our housing was built with no air conditioning in mind at all
Or just cooling in mind at all and now the summers are getting like
Really unsustainably hot yeah, and it's like actually a huge problem. Yeah, so many people are putting in
Move the stupid heat exchanger outside no no that doesn't help that doesn't help because
It's there's there's still like the tubing in the reservoir and and and all that like it's it
It's not a bad idea, but know that the heat exchanger is gonna stay inside for also for maintenance
The other thing too is that a huge part of the point of this was I didn't want to waste the heat
Yeah, I'm paying for the heat anyway
Right when you power a computer you're paying for heat, so if you could do something useful with it
Then you might as well and obviously
You know I what what I'm gonna save like 20 bucks on like the heating bill for the pool
50 bucks a month probably probably not even that much like yeah
Maybe maybe I saved 20 bucks on the pool heating bill or something like that
But 20 bucks 20 bucks, and it was that by a bunch of months
Yeah, it was more. It was more. Just like a proof
Well, I mean I'll never make back what I spent on the implementation of this no
If it wasn't for content it would make no sense, but it's cool
And the thing is that you don't have to do it like this
I think a lot of people watch our videos and kind of go
That's totally impractical nobody would ever do it like that, and it's like yeah, I know
But but you could but you could do it like kind of like this my ride
Yeah, like I remember when when we did Taryn old Taryn not new Taryn when we did old Taryn's extreme tech upgrade
He had kind of a janky version of essentially what I'm doing where I have my system
Connected to fiber-optic cables in a different room right he just like but he just had copper cables
And he just had it like running under his door
But it achieves the exact same thing it was so cool because I was like hey
Hey, that's that thing that we made that video about but done for like
$23 instead of you know $500 or you know whatever it costs for a bunch of fiber-optic cabling and
And you know in some cases having to have like a contractor run it or you know digging around in your crawl space or like
Like what ant venom did?
Yeah, when he essentially did whole room water cooling
but just put it in his basement where it was a much shorter run and
Where he didn't have to have something outside that could you know hazard asleep fall off of a roof at some point which never happened no
Miraculously I got to it before it fell down that was not good craftsmanship. What happened with that roof mount
That's Linus what plan is for winter
Mmm. Okay, so I think we're gonna look into whether it makes more sense to
drain the pool to winterize it or
Or just run it at a really low temperature like I think I've heard that if you just run it at like
Ten degrees or five degrees or something like that. That's that's actually pretty good
It has it has a cover like it has a like not a lid
But it but it has a cover which apparently helps with efficiency like flippin a lot
I am a little bit worried about like dew point and condensation
However the heat exchanger might be an advantage then so here. Here's something
I don't know what I do know is that as you go you know a couple meters underground the temperature is basically
Like kind of fixed year-round
And that's one of the big reasons that geothermal heating and cooling works
so well because you can attach a heat pump to it, and you can basically extract heat from the ground or
put heat into the ground and it's it's
limitless in its capacity both ways
Because it basically is this fixed temperature kind of year-round
but what I don't know is whether that applies to
To
Two meters down in a pool
Where the it's kind of has outside air exposure
Prop so probably not, but then if there's water in it
But then if that water has heated a bit or something yeah
I'm not sure
I'm not sure exactly where you're where you're dumping most of the heat to because on the one side of the tubes
You've got the water and then on the other side of the tubes. You've got the earth
So
Where's the where's the heat going it's gonna basically you know path of least resistance
yeah, probably probably some both ways, but I don't know where the bulk of it is and so I
basically my plan and
this is a very Linus plan is to keep an eye on it as the temperatures fall and
Just react see how that goes yeah, I'm definitely gonna put antifreeze in it. I don't want it to freeze out there
You know so I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna go ham. I know like in the ocean
From like scuba diving. I'm sure you've experienced this the further down you go the colder it gets
But I don't I don't know if the pool is really deep enough to have much of that property I
Don't know I have no idea
I don't know
And I don't know how much of that changes when you cover the pool because a lot of that happens from
How much sunlight is able to penetrate the water?
So if you're covering the pool, and it becomes zero anyways
I don't know how much impact that has because the water is gonna turn to a certain degree I
Don't know not sure yeah
I don't know I mean it could be it could be that if I do ultimately turn to my direct pool cooling system
That I might have to have like like a valve yeah, so that in the winter
I'm actually using the heat exchanger just to make sure that I don't you know run zero degree or five degree
Freaking water into my rack and then end up with a bunch of condensation in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah
It's interesting. Yeah, that's not a bad idea actually yeah
Okay, okay speaking of not bad ideas
I have another idea because I was sitting here thinking hey hold on a second in the winter
Do I really want to put this heat outside?
I mean it got like kind of you know it's it's fine, so you're gonna need like a series hold on just hold on
I'm gonna get there
You know kind of like you know obviously if we do keep the pool filled
Then it'd be better to like you know have a little bit of heat going in there
That's not burning gas for no reason, but then okay hold on hear me out new pitch
There's a fireplace in the living room that we don't use and it's still not even hooked up properly because you know contractor things
Yes
So I pitched to Yvonne
Okay, we create this motorized or like we have like like fans that blow little like pieces of like
Red and orange and yellow plastic to make it kind of look like a little fire
And then in the back of the fireplace
I just have a radiator with fans on it that just blow server room heat into the living room all winter
huh
It's not as stupid as it sounds because get this the original plan for the server room was to run through these
Sorry, you should get one of those like kind of crappy you see stupid commercials for them all the time
But it's like a fan, but the fan blades are screens and when it spins it creates an image
Yeah, so it's it's a fan blowing the air and the fan that's blowing the air has flames on it. Yeah
So we have these tubes that go from the server room to the side of the house
We were gonna use that to run down to the pool
But then the the other contractor the much worse one forgot to run two of those tubes
So that was supposed to be for two for the solar hot
Hot and cold and then two for the server room hot and cold well
They only ran the two so we had to use those two for the solar solar heating yeah
Yeah
And then we had to find another path for the pool one or for the the server room one
So it went through that conduit that existed back when the original owners of the house had wanted to put pool equipment in the basement
And then that's apparently not best practice anymore, so it's outside in a shed, but anyway
So we have those tubes running they happen to run almost right under the fireplace in the living room
So I even already have the tubes all we have to do is put some holes in the ceiling and find them
Huh holes in the theater room ceiling no problem
Wife approval factor 10 out of 10 cuz it's the theater room so she doesn't care
She shouldn't check you probably didn't care about that anyway
Aborno says I've always wanted to use my racks excess heat to feed a 3d printer closer see this is what I'm talking about
Yeah, no Yvonne Yvonne did not approve the radiator in the fireplace
Yeah my like first thought was like just put a TV in front of it and put like a you know the like
Screen of a of the yule log fire on it
I was like well that would kind of stop sort of all the airflow and also super heat a TV
She doesn't sound great. Yeah. Yeah, no the whole the whole point is that it's it's supposed to be a radiator
That kind of looks like it
It doesn't need to look like fire. It just needs to look fire, so we could just paint it red
Red radiators like you know like Dyson fans work
Uh all those like air blade ones or whatever yeah
Work is a strong word for how they something, but sure I've never are they bad there
They're very expensive, and they're really not very effective compared to just
Spinning blades, then it's and it's vacuum with pressurized output is that how it works. I forget
I've never actually known that's just what I've assumed if you could use that same type of system
And just have a bit of a like panel gap
Maybe that could work. I don't know hmm
Interesting I mean yeah, it's it's it's not it's not happening either way
It's just it's just I don't know I I just I was I I became infatuated
With the idea of utilizing waste heat for something yeah of course cuz yeah, that's the bottom line
Yeah, seems cool, so you know if there was if there was some way that you could
Transport the heat from your computer to somewhere where you don't have to feel it or that better yet
You could use it in some way. I just think that's super cool like I
Okay, I didn't realize this, but in some houses
There is a there's a loop that just has a separate pump on it that
Moves water around so that in key places like the the main like regulate on suite bathroom
You
Open up the hot water tap and it like has hot water right away
Because it just constantly has hot water
I had no idea that was even a thing so in the in the main bathroom in our house that was that was installed by the
Previous owners I'd never heard of that before like in our old place it took like a minute sometimes
For the the hot water tap to be hot
So
You know okay
What if I could use my waste heat to like heat that stupid loop that is just burning stupid gas for no stupid reason?
Instead of like so even in the summer is what about this is what I'm trying to say even in the summer
There are potential uses for for waste heat. There's there's sometimes times when you might need heat for something but
The problem with a computer is that you know back to what I had said about the heat exchanger where part of the challenge
Is that the difference in temperature is not very high like the one that we're using I think is is
Rated for its capacity at like it's also many tens of degrees Delta between the two sides unless you mine or fold
It's also gonna be very inconsistent
So you you wouldn't necessarily want to use it for something or you would not want it to be the only solution for something
That's like you're actually gonna care about
Yeah, so like that that causes some issues as well
If it is gonna be something you're gonna care about you'd have to have backup systems or whatever else yeah
Really
I'm surprised you didn't do insta hot on every spot now that sounds that sounds expensive and
Just totally unnecessary. I mean it for me. It's it's less about the cost and more about just kind of the wastefulness of it
I don't think that's really necessary if that hadn't already existed
There's no way I would have installed something like that. I think I can wait 30 seconds for hot water then again
This is an interesting question
What's more wasteful the water that you just the cold water you just dump down the sink while you wait for hot water or keeping?
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It's time to do three merge messages. Okay before we do that. We should probably talk about the new item this week
Yeah, Luke. Yeah, I didn't let him look at it before the show. Okay. Okay, you can you can play with it now
What drives me nuts about this is I'm I'm gonna have to buy one for my girlfriend or should kill me
Because she's gonna want to match them. I know right
So cruel
You've forced so many purchases onto people with this I know right I'm putting mine on to put it off
Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. Oh, does it go like over? We got a match for that?
I mean it can it can I've never I've never had a onesie
Technically I would say or generally I would say no I wouldn't wear clothes under it
It's definitely nice and soft and comfortable. Okay, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna go I'm going down to full send
Yeah, I'm going down to underwear. I mean they can't tell I could just be miming I could just be miming
What I'm pretending to do right now Dan want to hit me with a merch message while I get changed
Like see sure wherever I can you can know for me my eyes. Yeah
I mean, yeah, you do you do whatever works for you. Yeah, but I'm I'm going onesie
I'm gonna be comfortable for when show after dark today, okay
Hi lld heavy when Friday question after the computer store video
How did the logistics team feel when the truck came back and what's the plan for all that stuff now that it's in inventory?
Okay, so I have multiple multiple answers for that. First of all
logistics not impressed
But that's nothing compared to how unimpressed accounting and procurement were
It turns out that you know without getting flagged for all kinds of you know auditing
Doing all the reporting for something like this is is very time-consuming and very complicated
I mean, we're still really glad we did it Keith was
Even aside from what he said in the video just you know thrilled with the whole thing
I mean, it's this is stock that you know for you know
Whatever. He might have said in the video about his his his
By those that people were still interested in this stuff
I mean, I think he knew he was never getting rid of any of this stuff for any dollars
Let alone you know anywhere near full full sticker
Which you know ultimately I did pay I paid a lot more than what stickers should have been for a lot of those items
So you know we're still glad we're glad we did it it was it was a really cool idea
I've had a lot
Actually, I've had quite a few people ask me like where did it come from I was at the dentist
and I had to meet my family for lunch and
Anyway, I had to meet my family for lunch
And I didn't have the car so I had to walk to the restaurant and I passed it
I was like yeah, man shops like this like how does this how does this still exist? You know how is it?
How is this how does this work? Yeah? I did you know what are these things on the shelf? Why are they there?
What's the story behind every you know?
Archaeological PC item on this shelf, and I figured you know what the best what you know would be really cool
Is if someone just came in here and bought all this stuff?
So that they could get rid of it, and they could have new stuff, and I was like oh, I'm someone
So that happened over a year ago. I thought it was about six months
I told Keith I was like yeah
I poked my head in like six months ago, and he's like I would have thought I would notice that
Like I watch your channel. I know who you are and I was like
Hold on a second
Maybe it wasn't six months because it was when I used to go to that dentist near there
And I've done two appointments at my new one, and they're at least six months apart
So it must have been over a year ago, so I popped my head in and was like oh, yeah
We should do this and then Tanner reached out to him six months ago. Oh, yeah, that's yeah, so that's my timing makes
No sense yeah, so Tanner reached out to him six months ago, and then intentionally ghosted him so that he would have no idea
That we were actually doing it so so he basically vetted the guy made sure he thought he'd be camera-ready
Made sure he'd be okay with us. You know coming in and taking over his store for the day, and then was like
radio silence
So that it could be both
Okay, and pre-approved, but also a surprise
So super cool. I forget what the original question was
Oh, yeah, well just how'd they feel about it so anyway really glad we did it but
There's definitely
Some been some challenges to overcome, and I think this saga is far from over
We have some ideas for what to do with the stuff
I think we've got some video concepts like I think it'd be super cool to do a video just building a computer out of my haul
I also was man hold on
I've got I've got some ideas that I just like jotted down in the middle of the night and emailed to myself once I
So much of what happens in my brain just gets emailed to myself because that's the only way that I know how to function
I guess someone saw when I stood up. They said can confirm Luke wears LTT underwear. I actually wear no other kinds yep
I wear only LTT. I thought you're gonna stop it. Oh, no. Oh, man. No no no
Sleep how's this for a video concept now you have a onesie
we go through and play a little game where I
Try to guess the eBay listing price of all of it combined
And then someone actually adds it up, and we see how close I can get
See like how hosed you got yeah, I'm pretty sure I watched the video. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty
Oh
There's a lot of things in there where he was like this amount and I was like
Sheesh yeah, oh, oh, oh, okay. No. I can't reveal this one because it might ruin it
But what about that?
Oh
That's pretty good. Yeah, I don't know that might be pretty good. Oh video title. He told me this was indestructible. I disagree
For that laptop, and we basically just like kind of do a like a
How much does it take yeah get it to a point of being destructible cuz like the things not?
particularly no offense to Keith's pricing model
Not particularly valuable at this point in time yeah
So I think if we were to if we were to just you know run some generally speaking. I'm opposed to
destruction of working hardware
it's it's sort of against the principles of our channel, but I think I could make an exception for an
Indestructible laptop I've been instruction tests everything is that a challenge
Total leak and floatplane chat said ask some of the younger staff what the items are oh?
That's
So depressing and I'm gonna write it down. It's really good. I think that's really fantastic
Try to get or like try to get them to even like install some of them stuff like that
just ask them what they are try to get them to actually like use them or install them or
Do things like that?
That'd be pretty good. That's
Frickin hilarious all right, so I mean honestly I could spend the entirety of next week
Just making follow-up content, but then the problem is that like what about you know other videos?
I feel like people might feel like we're milking it a bit, but also all these concepts are really good
Like they're just good videos. It doesn't matter that there are like a sequel to something that was successful. I don't know I just
It's also just a great video like I didn't realize I watched it and then when I was done
I was like smiling like the whole time. Yeah, it was it was heartwarming
But also just hilarious and like there's a lot of thing and you know what not but I didn't realize there's
34 minutes I added the gambling I didn't realize that until now
Four o'clock the night before the shoot. I was a great. I was like Tanner
We need that a lot better. We need a way to keep this engaging through it. We can't just like
Watch me get quoted prices and put items in a bin for yeah
You know at that time we were aiming for like 15 to 20 minutes for the video, okay, okay?
What can what can we do to spice this up a little bit okay games of chance?
Swing by the dollar store in the morning
Just get anything that you could conceivably
Turn into a game of chance so like the pull the rope one or like you know the the the custom custom dice
The crappy darts yeah exactly oh my goodness. They were awful. There's more footage of them being awful
We've got one floatplane exclusive up already with extra footage from the from from that video and then
There will hopefully be more actually we've got two videos up we have one
That's from the shoot, and then we have a second one that is logistics receiving everything
So if you want to see firsthand what that was like oh, yeah, I'm loading the tech shop wow I didn't see this
Yeah, and then I think there's probably going to be more at some point, but that's not a guarantee
I've got to talk to the the social team about what they have going on. Oh, yeah
Hello, oh right right right right right exclusives have their own tab now behind the scenes unloading the tech shop
Yeah, so the first thing we see is I think like Kalin and being like um
Okay someone on the main account has watched this already brother brother. Here's my stuff
Just ridiculous completely ridiculous
Man oh wow our community response to this one is extremely
Overwhelmingly positive, that's awesome nice
What was the question I don't know my mind is so fried this week?
Team feel when the truck came back right, what's the plan for all the stuff now that you have yeah?
Yeah, so a lot lots of different plans. I I thought right one idea we had and
Tell me if you think this is a good idea was to we never do like signed merchandise
Mm-hmm. I think we've done it a couple times with Lambo
Stuff yeah, but other than that is with giveaways too, but not not purchasable other than that. We've never really done it and
I I had someone internally pitched to me. Hey, what if we
What if we sell the items as
Just a signed item, and then it's kind of like a random crap shoot what you're gonna get
So most people will probably get a cable or something
but some people will get a
Old-school monitor
Or a Xeon server or a 3080 so you're or a TV. You're making a real-life loot box. Yeah, I
Don't know. What do you think I have no idea is that is that stupid or is it smart?
Because it'll be nowhere near what we paid just to be very clear
This is not some kind of like ingenious money-making scheme
I suspect we walked out of there with somewhere in the neighborhood of like 300 to 700 items so even if it was like
25 bucks or something like that for for a signed piece of this video or whatever
But what would that work out to let's say let's say I think I think you should decide the price okay chill
I think you should decide the price after you figure out what?
The eBay value actually was oh
Interesting and then we base it on the eBay value
Yeah, that's not like an average out the eBay value. I don't know if we're actually gonna do that video though because like
It's a lot of work a lot of work actually a ton of work more importantly
I don't know how interesting that content is
It feels like a part of a video instead of feels like a short
It's a ton of video, and it feels like a part of a video
Yeah, or it's a ton of work, and it feels like part of a video
Donate to extra life
Could be an easy way to just like kind of get rid of it because I don't think we want this stuff sitting around forever
Well see that's the thing is right now it is
Very in the way yeah, yeah the bigger issue is not unloading it the bigger issue is walking around it right now
Yeah, I don't know I don't know so okay if there's 500 items, and we said it's okay
It's 25 bucks for a signed piece of this video that would be twelve twelve thousand dollars
Which is a fraction of what we paid and I think probably kind of both are realistic
actual
Value for that stuff and
Yeah, that's the main thing
I think that's probably a fairly realistic
Actual value for that stuff like there is some expensive stuff in there like there's there's more than 130 series graphics card and stuff like that
But the vast majority of it is basically the distribution will probably be pretty similar to what you would actually get from
a loot box
Yeah, yeah, probably most of its cables. I'm really concerned about how to ship
Because right now. We're not really set up to just ship random stuff like we're not an eBay store
So we don't just have a bunch of like those
Expanding foam bags things. Oh yeah. Yeah, we don't just have
Packing peanuts like nothing we sell on the store is really fragile and it all comes in its own
individually packaged boxes so a lot of the time you'll see the like the the main the main carton that has
Smaller boxes in it won't have a ton of packing material in it because I mean what this is gonna break
Inside its box. I mean I'm sure I'm sure a courier somewhere is up to the challenge, but generally speaking. It doesn't really happen
Yeah
We'll pay more than $25 to the Mac for G Mac g4 cube. Well. No that's the whole point though
Yeah, you won't get to pick if you get the g4 cube
Oh right that was one of the other video concepts doing a sleeper build in the g4 cube
I think I actually got a deal on that. I don't even know if it works, but here
Let's let's let's eBay that right now
I know I didn't get a deal on Buzz Lightyear, but I think I got a deal on the g4 cube
The Buzz Lightyear thing was hilarious
This is just the power adapter
Whoa hold on a second wait
Okay, no no no no okay. Oh, okay new listing hold on yeah, this is
Fifteen bids why do people want the nine days left?
Why do people want these hold on two speakers surround hold on power adapter
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on a second?
Did I get a deal hold on well? This is oh wait. This is just the case
Are these super collectible why?
they're a
They're a pretty interesting period of Apple
And I don't think they sold very well either. There's like none. Yeah, you got a rare computer. Holy crap
I actually got one thing that the posters worth 20 bucks. They're they're pretty special oh
Sick
So then are they so special a pencil drawing of one
I'm sure they don't something yeah, okay hold on the power bricks are
150 bucks okay are these things so special that people would be really upset if I did a sleeper build in one though
That I'm not sure about but I'm not entirely sure you should let it through your fingers just yet
Okay, well I'm not committed to I'm not committed to
You know the the signed loot box thing
I think it'd be even cooler if the g4 cube was the sleeper though
So we do a sleeper build and then we do the like signed loot box thing and instead of getting the g4 cube
You get a sleeper gaming PC in the g4 cube, but if you know what if you just like reproduce?
The cube may be slightly larger with a sleeper build in it. I don't think we'd be able to do that
It's it's have you have you looked at it lately. It's it's basically a work of art. Yeah, that's beautiful
Okay, Oh the g4 cube is yeah people are very very
split in the audience
over whether it's okay to
I don't think so to gut that thing and it's pretty special
Why is it special it's like
art almost
Apparently they only sold about a hundred thousand of them or something like that
This man is so jaded look why is it art it's a box
You're you're too mad for someone who's wearing an adorable onesie right now. It looks too comfy to be this angry
I am actually pretty comfy. I think I got actually tired after I put it on
I am fully chilling out right now. It's made out of the underwear material. It's oh
Cuz it is really soft. Yeah, that's why it's like soft and stretchy and stuff. It's quite nice
Yeah, we put a bunch of we put probably too much work into this for how many I expect us to sell
But the team was really excited about this product
And so we did like a whole bunch of rounds of sampling to just to get it just right
Yeah, it's it's pretty nice. It's underwear is it's like full-body underwear
Essentially yes the longest underwear. Yeah
Do you want another merch message I sure yeah, I forgot what I was even responding to at this point hit me
Okay, hold on would you have to destroy it?
Yeah, oh, yeah
Yeah, you'd have to you'd have to
Significantly modify it. Oh right. I've put up a pole and float plane. Let's have a look at the results
Show results okay to sleeper build 60% say yes only
Okay, so here's the thing this kind of poll is not really just
Majority rules like yeah when we asked about okay when we asked about posting exclusives that we had already produced
During the production break. I think about 60% said yes
But based on that 40% said no
We made the call to not do it because the no kind of has more weight
when
The when when it when it's something very significant. I guess is what I'm trying to say if it was
98% yes 2% no then those nose
Get drowned out a little bit, but there's it's not as simple as just
Okay 51% say yes, okay, we do it. What if the parts don't work?
Yeah does that okay, okay hold on here, let's let's try it
Let's try it again the conversation currently going on in full plate chat, and I kind of I think that's interesting
I fix I know fix
Sleeper no okay. I'm not I'm not I'm not
Hiring more to spend more money on this yeah overpriced cube. Yeah
You
Could you could let people that care about this
Thing have the parts that don't work because maybe they can restore them or something
It would probably be good to if you do do a sleeper build in it
Then make the parts available because I'm pretty sure those are difficult to come by yeah interesting
like
For your phone. Yeah, you know that was parts that I managed to get oh
Do you have all the parts for that it will be here Monday, I hope oh fantastic, but an entire phone
Guess what wait what?
Yeah, that was the way. Oh yeah super cheap. Oh, just an entire new phone with a broken big screen
Oh perfect as my big screen works your big screen work, so we can replace literally everything else
Yeah, it's gonna be a Linus and Dan
Extravaganza as it turns out I do
Need to fix my fold 3 that fell in the pool because there's some footage that we need for a video
Ironically a video about my computer breaking
That is on that phone like I didn't need any any of the family stuff
I had actually backed it up about three weeks prior
But and so I was already gonna do the video with Dan anyway
Because I thought it was really interesting to just do like a phone repair video
But then we discovered that I had
selfie shot some stuff that had not been ingested in that three weeks before it died in jest and
So we actually do need to get the data off it the good news is based on the symptoms
I've seen I think it's just a busted battery, and then Dan also found some corrosion on one of the daughter boards
Yeah, I might be a little bit more severe. We don't know yet. It seems like
Definitely it wants to have two batteries and one of them is just absolutely puffed to maximum
It's so puffed that one of the displays. We're not gonna have to heat up to get the adhesive loose
It's all it removed half of the glued on display, which was really nice. Yeah, and thankfully that's a feature not a bug
And it seems like that is the side that may have got far more water in it than than the other one
Which might be okay, so we'll see
We will see and the side that got a lot less water is the main board
That's the important one yes the storage chips on it and the SOC so so I'm I'm pretty hopeful honestly speaking and
What I'm excited for is if the main board doesn't work
We have a bunch of reflow tools, and so we'll have to do because I got you a working phone
But it's all broken. We'll have to take the SOC
Sorry, we'll have to take the memory chips. I don't want to transplant them that won't work
That'll be that'll be the Hail Mary
I know I really I sincerely we can just like message drive savers or something hey. Hey does do they
Because if you if you if you don't you care that much yet, then yeah if you know
I don't I don't mean to send it to them
I just mean we could just ask them is there any point doing this because I think the answer is no
I think if you decouple the controller from the nan chips
The new controller no longer knows where anything is and take the controller to
Well the controller should be on the SOC just take the SOC okay, right, but then if
Do you see we're going yeah, I see where we're going we're going in down a rabbit hole. Yeah, that's why it's a Hail Mary
Yeah, I don't think we're gonna go down
I don't think we'll need to I think I would rather I would rather just reenact
Me in the server room discovering that my computer is broken. I think that would be better
Honestly, we'll see nice thing I can I'm hopeful I put the act in reenactment
So I'm in my computer room right now
I can't believe this my system it just it just I was in the middle of using it and it turned off
What the hell what the heck? I thought I'm a tech tips man. Why is my computer broken? I'm sure I can pull it off
Hold on we got a second merch message of the three this is going very smoothly
Can you ask Luke how he got that starfield constellation edition watch?
About it
He just he just I don't have you I actually did hold on a second. Oh hold on hold on
What have you done with Luke?
Hold on a second
That's a
$300 did you oh no you also get the game and you get other stuff, too. I've bought collector's editions before okay
That's that's true. He does buy physical copies of games. This is a thing. He does yeah, dude the physical copy
Is not a disc, but it's like a it's a credit stick from the game. It's actually kind of cool
Why are these pictures so small it's just stupid this is kind of dumb yeah wait, so are you wearing it right now?
That's right. Oh, but why is it sitting on your keys?
Well because I took it off because the onesie sleeve goes all the way oh
I didn't want to like make it look weird so what it what what kind of watches is it smart?
Or is it just like it's just smart okay?
So it's I call it a last last last last last last gen smartwatch. I see yeah, but it's like actually
Kind of nice. Oh, so it doesn't have a touchscreen. No cool four buttons around it the left side is up and down
Top right, I think it's like settings and then bottom right is I think back cool definitely need the leather strap
There's another strap option. I don't remember what exactly it is
It's just standard you can get any strap. I think it looks great. It has a
Step counter on it sure it shows your notifications on the screen
You can change your music on your phone with it heck. Yeah, yeah, all right hello DLL off-topic
But will the badminton center have rental rackets yes?
Yeah, I think it's really silly that a lot of places don't have rental rackets and rental shoes. It's like
Such a nominal investment that pays for itself so quickly how could you possibly not I just I can't fathom it
just it I
think one of the challenges is that a lot of
Sports facilities are run by sports people and not business people and like to be clear
I don't even mean like like like business business monsters. You know like nickel and diming everything or whatever. I just mean sort of
Just generally financial efficiencies and things if your general efficiencies like I you know to me
It's just it's just a no-brainer that
Okay, you can get a decent racket for like 80 Canadian dollars, so that's like
60 US dollars your cost is less than that let's assume your cost is like
$45 or 40 bucks you can rent that racket out for like five dollars ten bucks
So in in somewhere between four and ten rentals you have completely covered your cost on it and everything from there is
Brand new money you would have not obtained if you just if you didn't make that small investment
That's just very obvious to me that you just need to do it
Yes, badminton has specific shoes bots
They're for the court their court shoes
You want to scuff the you wear them when you get a parking ticket?
I
Was trying to figure out how to make that into a court joke and I couldn't it's man's a professional
I know I got one more maybe slightly longer one if you want or save it for later
Let's see high DLL apples proprietary M chips are very powerful and efficient
Why don't we see Intel and AMD start having RAM as part of the system on the chip?
DDR 5 should run much faster in this case oh
Man um with hold on eventually hold on no no no sorry hold on
One big board I risk future
Future risk is good. Yeah
Crap I can't find it right now
But if you actually if you look at the if you watch the video
We made recently called starting at is the biggest lie in tech or something like that
There's an Asus laptop that I believe is either
Available now, or will be available very soon that uses a very similar
RAM on package a sues laptop here. I really would like to find it
Dang it. I do not want this future. I want upgrade ability and interchange ability drives me mental
I can't find it the point is it's coming. It's coming now
It's I mean, it's and it's not just laptops like you know we kind of it's everything. Yeah, it's not as configurable
It's it's not even it's not yeah
It's it's even in the data center where we're seeing we're seeing chips that have HBM right on them well
That's not upgradeable right whether it's like Nvidia's
A Grace Hopper a gray super chip or whatever it's called. I think Intel has some stuff coming
It's it's it's coming and the reality of it is this is reflective of how the users of these products
Use them and not just something that's being pushed on us by the manufacturers like I remember my mind being
Blown the first time someone told me that in a data center like in a
scale data center like that someone like a Google might run or an Amazon
When a server is bad if a stick of RAM goes bad
it is not uncommon for them to rip that server out put a new one in and basically just
send that to the
scrap the storage and
Put it in a heap for you know whoever our partner is who flips these things on eBay get rid of it
It's gone. It's out whole server. Not not a drive whole server, and I was like
What shouldn't they just have an IT room where they like fix them and
The answer was at that scale
It's not a good use of time. It's a better use of time to just
Throw in a known good brand new working server and not deal with that because they have enough to do and I
the the
The DIY are in me just just about died hearing that
But then if that's true if that's the case at least in some at least in some places
At real scale they do this with entire racks of kit not just service
We have this topic later in the doc which is Intel's meteor lake launches in December
But people have linked articles talking about how it has LPD dr5 on-chip LPD dr5 X
Intel demos meteor lake CPU with on package LPD dr5 X is a Tom's Hardware article
Yeah, there you go through but yeah there
There's one Asus laptop that we pointed out in that video though that I believe is already using on package
memory or if not on package it's
Very very close yeah, and they in by doing that they were able to run at much much higher
Frequencies compared to running in a dim or even being soldered to the main board
But farther away just the signal integrity is so much better so so right so back to the service for a second
This coupling of CPU to memory is
reflective then of the use case I mean
most people treat their computer like a microwave and
I know this is this is the kind of thing that I think is hard for us to wrap our brains around
But for most people when their computer is dead
The computer is dead. Yeah, yeah, and you can take it to a repair shop
But as we know if you've ever taken something to a repair shop
I mean they want 60 bucks to put in a memory module
right
So imagine how much it costs if you want them to
Substantially repair the computer it actually doesn't necessarily make financial sense
To rip to have that computer repaired by someone else it makes sense for us because we're gonna fix it ourselves, right?
Are you trying to get something to Jacob Danes? Yeah?
The former leader of the Pirate Party of Canada we're in the presence of royalty, thanks
See how this goes
Is this to do with the buzzing are we like trying to figure it out right now or something?
What is he even doing here? What time is it? I can't I actually can't let you log into my phone. I'm sorry oh
There's like multiple not even work a lot of news
Just wait for them with the ones
That took no time
Say if you wanted to like text it you could do that
I just can't let you on to the actual phone itself that is so do something to it
Is there like you need dev mode?
Okay sounds good
All right
Anywho you don't have to do that. What was I talking about?
Right right so so this is reflective of the way that people are using this hardware anyway, right right right consumer technology
Right so people don't people don't upgrade stuff
Yeah
They don't repair stuff because it's not cost-effective if you're gonna spend
$300 repairing a computer you bought for a thousand dollars five years ago
It's probably not even worth three hundred dollars and something else might fail now
It's but and and whether it would or wouldn't I could see that being the mentality
well if the if the
Transmissions going then probably the you know that I'm gonna need to change all the belts soon anyway
And then you know probably the the power windows are gonna start jamming realistically you know
Yeah, at what point does whether it's a car a computer or whatever else at what point does it just turn into a money pit?
And it's better to start over new and I think that whether it's uh
whether it's true or not a lot of people have that perception of computers, so
If people are just going to go hey my computer's slow. I need a new one anyway
Then I think from the manufacturer's standpoint. They're sitting there going okay
Well, this is slower which makes us less competitive it costs more which makes us less competitive and people aren't even asking for this
Why are we doing this and?
So you know in some cases
I do think Apple does things that I then get very
Frustrated by because they weren't necessary and the rest of the industry just goes there, but in this case
They're probably just ahead of the curve
We were headed there anyway. I mean we've been talking about this ever since what was it like fifth gen
I think this one core
It was rumored that Intel would solder desktop CPUs to motherboards, and we were we were mad about it
I mean, I think justifiably so
But it was it's been clear the writings been on the wall for the better part of a decade now
So maybe writing is on the wall in regards to who's gonna purchase the thing which is gonna drive engineering decisions at
Companies like this, but I would say I still don't think it's necessarily a good thing
because
Someone could repair it eventually even if the initial consumer isn't gonna repair it
No, you're right doesn't mean that someone couldn't repair it eventually tell me this okay. I'm totally
pivoting a little bit here
In the world we live in today with security vulnerabilities being as impactful as they are and as
Widespread as they are
Should we be running ten-year-old processors?
Or should they just go to the scrapper and retrieve the goal
I think for individual consumers. I think a lot of the CPU level vulnerabilities that we've had are not really that big of a deal
Yeah, I completely honest yeah sure fair enough
I just thought but a lot of them have required targeted attacks if I'm remembering correctly sure okay
So
speaking of targeted attacks
Did you know that we would need someone's permission to?
Drive by their house with a password cracking server and break into their Wi-Fi because it's illegal
Not surprised
Why did I bring that up I would have just done it anyways no reason I was I didn't care
Anywho
Have it was a really powerful
password cracking server oh
You're gonna try to hit me. I don't know. I just that people and good luck people exist and
Really powerful password cracking servers exist yeah from Camino
Hypothetically yeah, if a company called Camino existed, then maybe they would have a really powerful server that could be used for
cracking passwords I
Thought this was I thought you're referencing something I had said no a bit ago, but okay sounds like no oh
We've got some good videos coming out
Like seriously we've got I reviewed one just before the land show
Checking out laserdisc I had
Only had one experience with laserdisc, and it was extremely brief not even I didn't even get to watch a whole movie
So we got a have you ever tried laserdisc no you know how big they are right aren't they like records
Yeah, they're record. Yes. Yeah, but they look like giant CDs like novelty sized CDs
I've never actually seen one in person they have movies on them about them
Yeah, you can store like an hour of footage per side
So if you watch a two-hour movie you actually have to get up in the middle and flip it Lord of the Rings is like
Yeah, yeah, and they're double-sided so it's so it's yeah, it's two hours per disc, but it's one hour per side
So you're gonna be you're gonna be getting you're gonna be getting up to flip your precious over pretty often
I think yeah, so Lord of the Rings
Wait Lord of the Rings the two towers runtime is two hours and 59 minutes
With that said Lord of the Rings was never released on laserdisc, so it's not an issue no
I know
I just think it would be fun gone with the wind sure was and that's like a three and a half hour movie or something
Like that so you'd be getting up like four times to our five times to flip the disc or whatever the math was no four
times I think
Anyway, there were just before anyone jumps in with the you know correction there were more advanced players that had Reed heads on both
Sides, but you still had to get up and change the disc if the movies longer than two hours
Which a lot of movies are that's not the extended
I'm trying to find the actual extended edition times, but either way regardless. It's long. Yeah, so that video is coming out
I think this weekend. We have another one coming this weekend on
RF blocking paint
So we found this site that kind of pedals in digital smog like conspiracy
Cures and and remedies and they have RF blocking paint that you can use to paint your room
To keep the to keep the 5g out brilliant
it's I
Don't want to spoil too much
But it works shockingly well really yeah
Yeah, so it's the first would you say this is the first legit use of the RF the EMC chamber?
like in video
No, no. Oh, he's eating is there
Doesn't the wall block the 5g though. No no the 5g millimeter wave
Yeah, it could be blocked by a piece by this this garment
But a non millimeter wave no no it can like pass through stuff
Is there yeah a bunch of people in chatter asking this to?
It's not lead paint is it. Oh yeah. Oh oh
Well, yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, like I took it, and I brought it with me like this
Wow no it's not lead paint you
I believed it oh
Man
Come on
The extended times are three hours and 48 minutes for fellowship three hours and 55 minutes for two hours and four hours
And 23 minutes for return of the cake okay, so okay so for return of the king hold on one side two sides
Two hours three three side four side so you have to get up
So you have to put it in you have to get up to change it
That's one getting up you have to get up to put in the second disc you have to get up to flip the second disk
And you have to get up to put in the third disc if it existed you would have to get up
four times during the movie including how long was it four hours and
four hours and 23 minutes including one time
23 minutes before the end of the movie to basically just watch the epilogue essentially
yikes
That's pretty epic
Oh, we're supposed to do some more topics a wolfick says here's the question how many movies are even less than an hour oh?
No, so you're gonna be flipping no matter what you're watching unless you have one of the fancy dual head once yeah
Whoa so it doesn't even flip it itself it just starts playing
So there's like maybe a blip and there were like for commercial there were commercial solutions like really advanced stuff where you had like changers
Remember CD changers well there were laserdisc changers, but it was not for movies. It was for like karaoke
Yeah, one of the big benefits of laserdisc was it was
To my knowledge the earliest home format to support multiple audio tracks my dad used to run it
Like one of its major adoptions was karaoke because you can have all of these tracks on one
Big disc and then you want to go to the next one well
It's right here on the disc done instant every single time you know
It's awesome plus video. I'm pretty sure that came through the mic yeah
Yeah
So so yeah for karaoke
They would have entire libraries, and it was so cool because you could have the vocal track and the music track separated
Which for karaoke I think has pretty obvious benefits
Anywho we should probably do another topic or two because we have sort of oh
Well I think we should probably do this topic the one I highlighted
You'll find
Whoa
Whomp I'm sad. I'm genuinely sad we have made the difficult decision to not move forward with LTX
2024
There are four key reasons
One the vast majority of our company does not focus on events and while our core competencies like technology
media production
Do overlap somewhat with event running the vast majority of our time and effort is spent on other things
Which means that we do not have well-established processes and workflows and running events at a large scale
Requires
Well-established processes and workflows or you end up with a lot of inefficiency and you end up with a lot of stress
so that's I
the biggest reason but also very closely related to the next reason which is
Also the biggest reason and that's crunch
While there is a lot of work that can be done in advance of an event like LTX
There's also an enormous amount of work that has to be done in the days or even the hours
Immediately before the doors open this puts a ton of strain on the entire team
Another big reasons cost
You know I want to be transparent with you guys. That's that's that's the way we run this company
That's the way we run this channel
LTX 2023 was profitable which is good
But there's also an enormous opportunity cost compared to focusing on our regular activities
meaning that prioritizing LTX doesn't necessarily make the most sense and
Remember part of that opportunity cost is not just money part of it is also
Process and and quality of life for the team and all those things. I mean I even said on
WAN show at
LTX 23 when Luke asked me the hard question of is it coming back?
I talked about this I talked about the crunch
I talked about how even if it does make money that doesn't mean it necessarily makes sense
I asked him then because I was trying to get him to commit to it before he thought about it logically no
I had already been thinking about it a lot
Yeah
Number four is it's not all about money of course LTX was born out of a desire to serve the community and other creators, but
Again, it's clear that for the investment. We made into LTX which was very substantial there are many other opportunities that we could pursue for
Collaborations and community engagement that might be more exciting and don't cause the same degree of strain for the people that work on the event
So that's what it pretty much comes down to
We do have some alternative things to be excited about
One of them is Whaleland where we are going to continue doing Whaleland's
Aiming for anywhere from 200 to 300 attendees per one. I'd like to do them more often than just once a year
Personally I'd be down to do it once every couple months once every few months
I've had some people approach me internally and say hey
They think that's too much and it won't be special anymore or something like that
I I honestly think it would be in some ways more special. I think it'd be just such a such a just hangout
Just kind of break the routine
LTX was a really cool event for the fans as a whole but Whaleland I have more personal fun at so
and if we could do more Whaleland's and if we could bring some elements of LTX to Whaleland like maybe at a Whaleland we
have a
Tech midway like we had at LTX or you know some of the the con evil
You know games or things like that like I I think there's ways for us to make Whaleland really amazing
you could still even potentially have like the the
Water cooling educational thing totally like if someone like a rod came up
You know there's no reason why we couldn't you know do something like that, okay?
Yeah at this Whaleland. We're gonna be doing to bending 101
Yeah, maybe it doesn't run the whole time because maybe rod wants to play some games, too
Yeah, like and maybe someone like rod actually gets to play games for a change. Yeah, I'm not convinced
He actually plays games. I think he just like builds cool computer
I thought he was really into wasn't it war thunder something
I don't know. I've never seen him actually play a game, but I've seen him build a lot of cool computers
I've seen that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying play games. I've seen him do both
I've seen him build far more cool computers. I saw a game on build a computer that was on fire
Let's see if he's in the chat pretty sick. He says he says he says yes
Yeah, I'm not sure what he's responding to exactly cuz of the chat delay
But definitely yes, my dad says there should be quarterly whalelands. Okay, all right all right
We're working on it. We need a facility first geez
Excitement is high
so yeah, I
This was this was a super emotional
Decision for I shouldn't say decision for me because I didn't make the decision I was
Involved in the decision. I I laid out my points. I ultimately did advocate against
future ltx is just for
Look, I mean okay. I probably I'm speaking out of turn here
Colton basically said point-blank if we're doing ltx again. I can't do this
I don't blame him
it like
It's it's it's brutal
and and and so it's like it's not it's not just like I
Have I have said the whole so he was against I was for I have said the whole time though that I'm
Happily voting for as someone who had nothing to do with any of the work that was involved in it
I think my vote was probably like the least valuable out of all of them
Because I was the least attached out of everyone. I think genuinely
So it's easy for me to say yeah, we should keep doing it
I had some arguments which were like it was profitable and getting cons to a profitable point is very
Difficult and cons tend to have natural inherent growth and become very highly profitable on the high end
And I do think we were trending in that direction
And there were a lot of like financial efficiency things that we I think did quite poorly with this time around
We could have saved more money, which could have made more money both at the same time all this kind of stuff
But yeah all the work and stuff involved and and there is still the opportunity cost and min maxing the work and profit was
Never what ltx was about. Yeah, and so I feel like you're right the con could have become a huge profit center
You are right, but it wouldn't have been ltx anymore. And that was a big part of I think it could still be I
I
Think it would be a very very difficult path to navigate. Yeah, and
Potentially not worth it and maybe whale land is how we can keep that
small
Like I think it's pretty cool that
There's a plan instead. Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah. I think that's pretty cool
Yeah, because just dropping it and be like guess we're never doing it again would kind of suck which I also didn't say
Yes, I said we are not doing 2024. Yeah
But like yeah, well then the fact that we will have a facility that we like
Know the people who own it
Means that the rate will be paying is I don't know
nothing
means that we can just we can price the tickets at something that we feel is is is
The very least reasonable not what the market will bear. Yeah, but like reasonable
But also, you know, we need to make sure the time makes sense for our team to put work into it and make it
a really cool event
but not worry about
Pinching pennies so we could just make it a really cool event and just make it fun. Oh Sean. Sorry
I'm gonna derail slightly. I just Sean LMG in floatplane chat just spoke I
Wasn't sure if I should or could name him. Yeah, I was like two weeks ago
I think yeah, so he told me that I can I also asked if I could give the background there and he said yes
Sure, this is whaler 99 from the forum. Yeah, who's our new IT person at Linus media group?
Not even not new anymore. I mean hasn't been here almost six months now or something somewhere around that. Yeah
It's been hard to keep that in. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted to refer to him on the show as Whelan
But yeah, some people might actually know Sean if you've been around the forum
Especially in the earlier days of the forum
If you if you've seen whaler 99 around
That's him so yeah, I don't remember what I was referencing
But I wasn't sure if I could name him and now I do know and that's that's Sean. So yeah, yeah
So he actually like reports to Luke. Yeah
So he's sort of used to as a mod like 2012
First mods yes, like freakin
one of the ogist
Forum people ever. Yeah, but yeah, he just said whaler land. Yeah
Yeah, so he'll be he'll be probably helping us out with getting that set up once he gets his poor
Like head out from under the water of like our IT tech
You're gonna you're gonna like the new disaster recovery doc. Oh, yeah, it's like
Wicked how many how many pages is it? He's watching 200. It's more than 200, right?
Yeah, what? Yeah, it's for everything. Oh, is there a disaster?
Solutions what happens if when it's like very clickable so you can like written that one
Yeah, different parts of it and all that kind of stuff
210 yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Hey, yeah
Fighting yeah, it's cool. It's good
Anyways, yeah, so that's sad, but there is the good news of
whale lands
More and more awesomer
But I'm sure there'll be more details on that in the future
There was a couple comments from some of the people who worked on the mom-and-pop computer shop video
By the way, Tanner who who helped coordinate everything is like the the writer for the video
I said that the store owner Keith was even funnier off-camera. This is so true
I that's one of the things that drives me crazy when I'm working with amateur talents is they'll say something hilarious. I'll be like, okay
Okay
Do that again and like it's never quite the same. Yeah, like that's something that takes a lot of practice and
Is there something about just having a camera pointed at you just kind of stiffens you operate makes you feel unnatural and overall
He did great
But yeah, he was even funnier off-camera and Hoffman who was the editor for it. I cannot believe how fast Hoffman turned that around
That was like a two-day edit whoa, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no
No, we this is one of the first videos that we've released post-production break that actually was shot
Post-production break we shot this at on
Oh
Man, was it?
Thursday of last week. I I don't I don't remember exactly when we shot it
crud, uh
It should be on my
It should be on my calendar I
Think it was I think it was Thursday of last week. Surely it wasn't Friday. No, it couldn't have been Friday
Yeah, I think it was Thursday of last week definitely wasn't Tuesday and we released it like that weekend
It must have been because the sponsor asked for a rush edit on it or something like that because we told Keith too
We were like, hey, yeah
It's gonna be probably a few weeks because that's generally how long something like that would take to make its way through the queue
But yeah for Hoffman said the footage was
Extremely hard to condense because there was so much good material and there was a lot more items that we didn't show
We typically run audio continuously and Keith was so funny that occasionally while reviewing the audio you'd hear tons of laughter
Followed by David hurriedly trying to get the camera running
Passing pedestrians kept trying to poke their heads in to figure out what all the chaos was about
We also filmed to the back of the shot of the back of the shop but wound up cutting it for time
Tender had a big list of games, but Linus kept making up his own rules on the fly. Okay, that's true
Discussion question was what were the best parts of the shoot that didn't make the cut?
I think some of the best ones were some of the haggling between me and Keith
There were some I think in the final cut of the video Hoffman was going for a bit of a tone a tone of
You know me mostly going along with everything
But there were definitely times when I did push back more and and we did negotiate a bit more
I think Hoffman did a great job though of keeping in all the most important
Gambling because that was by far when I was watching it
I don't even want to spoil it, but the one big really impactful role was like
the critical role
Yeah
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely forthright with you
there's only
Two times in my life that I have fainted or almost fainted both while being both while having blood drawn
Because I am what's apparently the technical term is a fainter
Which basically means that when your skin is punctured your body immediately goes into protective
I must not lose all my blood mode and all the blood drains from your extremities and is like I'm gonna stay here now
So when when I'm getting blood drawn like my my hands go ice-cold
And they'll be like in there with the needle and it doesn't bother me
I don't care, but it's like they're like hello
Can like it's it just stops flowing
There's no pressure. They just can't get it Wow. I do not have that problem. Yeah, so anyway
I found this out when I was really sick with something was like back in the swine flu days or something stupid like that
But very pre-covid the old you know flu everyone was worried about
So it was back in those days
and I was like quite sick like I mean we can stayed already and I had to get blood drawn and I'm sitting in the
chair and
I start to kind of move and the nurse poor thing she must have been about 85 pounds soaking wet
Basically goes whoa. Whoa. I can't hold you you put your head between your knees like
They're like okay, okay, I managed to avoid passing out and then the second time it was for some life insurance thing
they had to draw blood from me and
I
started to go dark and
I like went over to I had my like love sack like giant beanbag pillow in the in the living room and I was in
the dining room at the old place and I like went down and went on to the love sack thing and
I like closed my eyes for a second, then I was totally fine
I talked to the guy and he goes you've been passed out for five minutes. I was like oh really
neat
Didn't know that so that's the one time. I've fainted
during this shoot I
Was in a near fainted state?
three times
From just stress
It was very intense there was a more probably more physical
There was more physical activity than you guys probably realized like watching a video like that because I'm climbing up on counters
Like I'm I'm doing a lot. It's it's a different. I had one of our one of our subjects for
The tech upgrade series that we do someone internal who sees a lot of footage
What's up? Oh? There's an ant huge one
See ya see ya buddy
Who sees a lot of footage
But doesn't participate in a lot of videos messaged me afterward after we did theirs and basically goes I
Don't know how you do this every day like I am
Wiped I I just I can't
It's training. Yeah, it's it's
training on a lot of levels being on is is is quite exhausting and
You know when you're working in an unfamiliar environment with unfamiliar people
You know a big part of the hosts job is to make everyone else around them look good and
Look really talented as a host and so it's a lot of things for me to keep track of when I'm trying to drive a
Video like that forward and then the other big one is I didn't even know how much the sponsorship was I?
Had actually no idea
So I had no idea what the running total was because I had a lot of other things to keep track of and so particularly
You know when I would stop and breathe for a second
I don't think I drank any water that day because I like forgot my water bottle or something
So that was probably a major factor, but there were multiple times that day when I was just like
Okay
Is this shoot going okay is everything okay? What is happening right now and
the one time I
Actually started to feel blackness come in around my vision was right before
the throw
Cuz I was just I was so stressed like I I don't I think you know that I'm not much of a gambler
No one in the hand is worth
500 in the bush
I I'm not that kind of person and so I I played a bit of a character in this video
You know the the gambling mouth roll for it. Yeah, yeah, but that is not my personality at all
I think that's something a lot of people don't realize is from one video to the next sometimes
I'll be playing a slightly different character because that's what the content calls for
And so I played did it well. I played the like cavalier
gambling man
but that is
Extremely stressful for me. I did notice that through the course of the video the games
Start becoming more and more skill based. Oh that wasn't intentional actually. I'm sure it wasn't but I also
Fully believe that your brain in the moment was like this game sounds more fun
I mean skill didn't work out great for me at the beginning you saw that putt yeah
I mean I just looked hard to do you saw the putt you saw the darts so just because I didn't necessarily win
You know what didn't make it into the edit was the pre-throw he wanted a practice throw
I nailed the practice throw and then frickin flubbed
You guys looked so bad. Okay, if you tried that dart set though you understand. That's what I assumed while I was watching it
They were dollars like this is
Astronautically bad. They were dollar store darts
Yes
They had no way not that I'm like I'm bad at darts, but like I know I just you had to whip them though
Yeah, watch you guys do it. I was like what there was no weight to them Keith
I think it took him three times to get it to stick in
But you didn't see that part cuz that wasn't in the final cut yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Man that video was just a good video people should watch it
Yeah, it was really stressful though scrapyard Wars had better darts. We had darts and scrapyard Wars, maybe
Seems like the kind of thing we would do channel super fun, and I think had darts at some point definitely had lawn darts
You
Have more topics we kind of already touched on meteor lake we can early
Human trials yeah
The ROG Ally base model is coming. It's
much slower
It uses the z1 instead of the z1 extreme
I'm I'm planning to do a review because I've been using my ROG Ally a lot oh
Good oh
This is really frustrating
YouTube made a made a policy change allowing channels to change their names
Without changing the display name on their Google account so hackers are now able to easily disguise what channel they've taken over
Frustrating attempts to identify and contact the channels true owner while changing a channel's name will remove any verified badge
associated with the channel forcing
Forcing creators to apply for reinstatement. I don't know that's a sentence fragment. That's okay
We tried however not all valuable hacking targets have verification badges such as strategy game streamer
Das tactic whose channel was hacked and so thoroughly changed that it was only identifiable because his store was still up
Das tactic is back in charge of his account now following assistance from YouTube one challenge was trying to communicate with his community
Because
So much of his online life was connected into his hacked Google account though. Thankfully not his Twitter or discord. This is
Wild so this is what a channel that's hacked could look like now
just completely
Unidentifiable
Unbelievable that's rough could Google not at least not make things worse I
Feel like this is one of those like one hand not talking to the other situations
And that's probably the most optimistic possible interpretation of what happened with unity who has walked back the pricing scheme
Yeah, they released a public apology and made significant revisions to their proposed pricing changes the recap is last week
They announced a 20 cent per download fee on unity based games that had made over
$200,000 in revenue a year and had over 200,000 lifetime downloads in response
Many indie developers threatened to withdraw their games from sale and migrate to another engine for current and future projects
Their new pricing plan doubles the minimum threshold on revenue before charges
From it doubles the minimum threshold before charges from 200k to 1 million a year. That's not double, but yeah
Oh, I read that in the pre-show, and I was like what okay?
Well basically it ups the minimum threshold for revenue
Games published in the past under a previous version of unity will no longer be subject to the new fee
But which is how it should have worked in the first place. How can you possibly?
Unilaterally change a deal that's not how that works
Developers will also be able to choose between the fee or paying 2.5% of their gross revenue instead
Last week unity claimed that they would assess how much developers owed through an unclear proprietary method leading to speculation of potential DRM and security
Issues now unity says they will allow developers to self-report these numbers
I just hope they follow through on all of this
And we don't see any of that same kind of behavior again is it time to switch to man show after dark Dan
Let's do it
Oh
Just walks past the camera what a pro
Orange messages, I'm sorry the top of potential sure I mean we can probably just answer most of them
There's there's not too many this week. Okay. Yeah, the potential ones are more like it directed at you guys personally. I think
Um okay, let's start at the top here
Hey, oh, I just donated a bunch of my icebreakers because I couldn't stand how itchy they were on my smooth
Supple skin on a scale of one to sandpaper. What's the itch factor on the LTT merino teas? I'm happy with them
For merino teas, but they are still merino teas if you like
Soft fabric on your smooth supple skin just get our regular teas
they're great or better yet pick up one of the RGB ones that is probably the softest shirt on the store and
It's available in more than one color now, so yeah, just go go go get that just load up those
They're they are by far that here. I should probably just oh
Man, I just realized we never even showed the photos for the for the onesie
It's always fun seeing the team
Shrod from the business team Sarah
From the design team a llama day from the fashion team Dennis from the bothering me team
More Sarah
Lots of fun Adam
What is this a group? Oh we do group photos now? Okay? Got a bunch of the business team. It's actually really cool
It looks like a family photo
So yeah the onesies
The reversible bomber jackets from last week and the merino t-shirt from last week
So the one you want if you want just like the softest softest thing for your supple skin is
This oh
I don't see different colors. Oh are they oh yeah, okay? Yeah here. It is in gray. So yes this shirt. It's so
comfy
Okay
Are you aware of any tech projects similar to VLC that have chosen to remain independent despite receiving numerous purchase offers and
Strictly refrain from tracking any data from their users
Honestly, it's not something that I personally pay close enough attention to no me neither
I mean I would imagine like OBS is probably received offers for purchase
and I was so far as well they remain completely independent and don't appear to be doing any kind of tracking of anyone's use even though
like
Man the amount the kind of very valuable the kind of data that flows through OBS
From the streamers themselves from any of the any of the things that are hooked into it like every merch message
No, no it doesn't actually because that's just a like essentially like a web capture window or something like that right okay?
It's literally just a browser source. Yeah, okay, yeah
But I'm sure that they could I'm sure that if they were
Evil enough they could engineer
OBS in such a way that the only way to hook something in would have to make it like plain text readable to OBS or something
I don't know
But no OBS. Just is it's cute
Hey Linus. I see you flipping around a precision screwdriver care to show it off
Yeah, I showed it earlier in the show so you might just have to rewind it might have been the pre show actually oh
Oh, well, then you might just have to get a float plane and watch it there. Okay?
Get out of here
Is it in your other pants I appear to have misplaced it, I'm sorry you will definitely see more of it in the future
Good morning DLL back when Alex had his tech upgrade he mentioned that you've got an order for five million face shields from
The Canadian government is that a story you can share
I don't know that it was a formal order so much as it was that they were
They wanted as many of them as they could get from anywhere, and we had publicly offered to help, and I think they misinterpreted our
Manufacturing capacity with those Prusa printers that hey again
You know we haven't forgotten shoutout Prusa for sending over
I think they just overestimated our capacity for creating face shields
and it was you know we basically clarified and we sent as much as we could and
Then we both moved on
Hi DLL
I'm a future teacher and was wondering if there is any tech in its early days that you think will become the norm for
schools in the future that I should learn now I
Would basically just keep my eye out on anything that your students are using like it's not even as it's not even
In my opinion, it's not even the like augmented reality and an AI
That is gonna change things so much or that will be as day-to-day relevant to you as just things like
Understanding what discord is and how it works and how they're communicating with each other and and interacting. I think that
It's been a huge advantage for me and Yvonne as parents
To not just know how our kids are communicating
But introduce them to things like discord where we can be in the discords
They're in and keep an eye on what they're talking to their friends about obviously
That's going to be less relevant as they get into their teenage years, but when for young kids keeping them safe online
It can be a real challenge if you don't know what they're doing
But I mean obviously that's not necessarily a teacher's role, but I still think that understanding
meeting the kids where they are is
More important than just trying is is more effective than trying to bring them to where you are
Hello my dudes, will the Noctua edition screwdriver be available through Noctua in Europe?
I believe that is the plan
So I think I think their plan is to I have no idea how the finances would work for this
But I think their plan is to essentially carry the screwdriver
However, that would look but you'd have to honestly the better way to get information about that would be to ask Noctua because they know
better than I do
My husband has watched you since the NCIX days. What is your opinion on tech leaks?
Do you think it's affecting buying of new tech?
Absolutely, I mean I think that leaks can impact the demand for the older item
I think that leaks can do a lot to generate hype and generate
Additional news cycles that can amplify the news around an upcoming launch
Sometimes I really do feel like leaks are probably intentional other times
They really do look you know too early too much impact on the old product to be to be worth it and they do look
unintentional
Sometimes I feel like leaks are
No matter the cost in terms of your own product lineup just to damage someone else just to make sure that no there's there's absolutely
No air for hype growing for somebody else
Yeah, let's let's leak something that's coming up. I think it can be very tactical
I so I also think it can be very accidental
I think it can just be passionate people who are excited to talk about what they're working on in a bar and being overheard I
It's just it's just part of it's just part of the territory
Okay, let's move into some potentials
Let's see I just curated one of them out. Oh, okay. I will read that one instead
Hey dll it's currently 4 a.m.. I just got starfield bundled with a g502 X Mouse
What was the best product and game bottle he ever got my favorite was battlefield 4 with an AMD GPU by the way?
I love my uncle Linus bottle
It was still like Batman bundle the Arkham Asylum one. Yeah, yeah, that was a good bundle
But there were some really wild bundles before like I I got
About half-life 2 with my all-in-one to 9600 Pro which was hilarious because by the time the game came out
I had already upgraded my GPU
There was so there's a while there where there was bundles of like four games
And I think it got kind of crazy. I think anyone who got half-life 2 got the whole orange box whoa
That's I don't actually remember hold on radion
9800 half-life 2 bundle orange box is am I gonna be able to find an article about this
I'm pretty sure I got an orange box code. I'm
Ati offers bonus to half-life 2 bundle buyers ok here. We go here we go
You got classic valve shooters until the half-life sequel shipped, so maybe it wasn't orange box
You got the valve premiere pack
Okay, that's that's I think it, but then pretty crazy, but then didn't have to come with orange box I
Don't remember orange box launched after half-life 2
And that included like portal and things like that too right
That was way later than okay, okay?
Yeah, maybe I'm mistaken half-life 2 was something like 2004 so maybe it was just maybe it was just the older games that came
with it, but there were definitely times when
aside from official bundles
Stores would have like because it used to be physical codes right so they would have a ton of codes left over and they would
Stack of them they'd slip in like they they'd pile up bundles on products
They needed to move so I had taken advantage of stuff like that in the past as well
Yeah, man game bundles used to be so sick so sick
Now they're just like yeah
Yeah, let's see what cancelled video project
Do you must most wish you could have completed and released and why did you have to cancel it?
We don't cancel that much so much as we
Kind of reach a non-viable point and and don't move forward with it
I'd say one that I'm really disappointed
We didn't do was the rack of occasion of the land center upstairs
Because our intention was to have that be kind of like what I did with the land center at my house
But run like a big radiator to the roof and bring back whole room water cooling at one point
I had also wanted to plumb water
water cooling into the editing den and have all the editing machines water cooled off of you know just like
Plumbing from the walls just like we did in whole room water cooling with the layout they have now
It wouldn't make any sense anyway because they're all over the room instead of just down the two walls
But I think that would have been super cool to like bring back whole room water cooling in a big way
I'd like to set up something like that at the lab so they just have
Water available to cool things when they need it, but also I think they probably don't need it like quick disconnects on the desk
Yeah, that would be sick. Yeah
Okay, hey l d l Linus a couple weeks ago. You mentioned that you're more of a textured eater
What is your fate? What is your opinion on Ben and Jerry's ice cream ah I?
Am too cheap to buy really expensive ice cream
So I curated this because I was like he's probably never even had
Okay, I don't remember like I've probably tried Ben and Jerry's once in my life or something
It's like a hundred grams you get a kilogram at the superstore for the same price
I just I don't know I can't the maximum for me is I'll spring for like briars
But like as soon as you get into like Haagen-Dazs territory
French vanilla is like yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good pretty all right
Yeah, I mean honestly my guilty pleasure ice cream is just like no-name Neapolitan anyway, so I'm clearly a Philistine
It's like five dollars for it for a bathtub yeah exactly right
Hey, lld was wondering
What is all your personal favorite LTT store hoodie or a jacket that you've ever done personally probably the short-circuit one PS
Bring back the swacket
Favorite we've ever done. I know mine man. I really like the tie dye ltx23 hoodie
It's really good. It's really good. I am I am somewhat particular about I'm not a huge fan. I like zippers
Yep, yeah, but it's it's really good though. Yeah, that's the one in my backpack right now like that's the one
I'm dailying right now
What about you this guy?
Really, that's not really a hoodie, but yeah, it's it's a door jacket jacket. Okay. That's fair. Yeah, that's a it's a really nice jacket
it's like a
Really nice jacket. I've shown it to people that are are
like
clothing people like
And I've like just put it on. I'm not gonna tell you like where I got it from or anything just put it
What do you think cuz like you don't expect me to have?
Super nice clothes not of nowhere
So I just try it. It's like actually really good, and they're like checking out. What is it like wall?
LTT store comm baby I had I was at the gym
Yesterday and I went to go into the pool after working out
And I put my water bottle down on like where you put your stuff when you're changing to get into the pool and some dude
Walked by I was like that's a sick water bottle. I
Was like thanks, man. He's like is it a whatever and said some brand. I don't remember what it was I was like no
it's a
It's an LTT and he was like huh
So
You're saying we need to invest more marketing in our like top-of-funnel awareness, maybe maybe yeah, yeah, all right
Yeah, you might you might sell some water bottles to Jim bros if they even know what it is
Excellent. He's like it's huge. That's awesome
Hey DLL, I know you play supreme commander forged alliance forever
But what is your opinion on supreme commander to the gameplay and story I?
Never played subcom 2 because I heard it's bad, so I I was a sheeple and I didn't play it
Sorry
Have things felt different for you or your staff now that it's been a month since the week
Plus break have you realized noticeable improvements from your new processes and content schedule I?
Don't know why doesn't the team answer that there's a couple members of the team
I don't know if Luke's gonna have a lot to contribute to that actually
I don't know if Dan's gonna have a lot to contribute to that. Okay. I guess I'll talk
That is exactly what was my response was gonna be to like nothing changed nobody talked to me as much I was more productive
Yeah, yeah, I
Think that there's been changes
But I also think that the public perception of the changes has been much greater than what the actual changes have been
I think not to diminish the effort that's gone into the changes
But we were putting in a lot of effort before I think that's one of the things that people are kind of
There was a lot of changes used about us for that. We're already in motion. It's like hey you guys are not doing good enough
Hey, you're like working the team too hard, and I'm sitting here going okay, which one is it yes?
We're working really hard, and we're trying to do better, and that's that was already what we were trying to do
And you know it's obvious that there were some communication breakdowns that were taking place
I think that's the biggest thing is we we broke down a lot of barriers in
Interteam meetings, and we've we've added a lot of I
I'll also throw in here. Yeah, we absolutely have our communications problems, and I know of a few that I'm working on as well
Yeah
But if you ask like anyone that works at any
Company of a size that's more than like five people
And you ask them like what promises your company have oh?
Communication so it's like yeah
Things happen, and I think that whether there are a lot of things that we can do better
Yeah, of course there for sure like you know Dodge that there's things no
And and that's the thing is like we've I don't think we've ever pretended that we operate perfectly smoothly internally
I think that one of the things that we do do sometimes to our detriment is we are extremely transparent about our problems
And so you know yeah here
I am here. I'm talking about yeah some of the challenges and some of the things that we're doing to improve
And I'm gonna tell you guys up front like it's not perfect. It's it's gonna take a lot of time
The the first week back honestly. I think we had some of the most disastrous shoots that we had had in
many many months
And not because we didn't have enough time just because we had a lot of new processes to work out and it is not
Simple trying to do what we do
Believe it or not if you know the solution, and it's super easy and obvious
You don't know the solution
It's not that easy. It's not that obvious. There's a lot of moving parts and
You know it's it's one of those things that
you know I feel like people have to people have to experience people have to live to understand and
so I don't expect everybody to understand it, but
Overall I I think that
You know it's been motivating. I think it's been exciting for people to spend more time talking to other people
Which
Has been a personal source of frustration because that's something that I had been advocating for a lot
And then all of a sudden now. It's everybody's idea, so now we're gonna do it's like okay
Sure
You should be talking to this team regularly, it's like
Okay, but we need like a week shut down in order to like internalize them like okay
You know what you know part of it. Is that it's yeah, it's not that simple
It's just like a lot of the time sometimes. It's process change
Yeah, yeah, I want to do this yeah, and and sometimes someone can say something you go
Yeah, that's a good idea, and I should do that, but until there's like a hey you know wake up moment
You're just you kind of keep doing things the way that you did them before right and that's especially when people are heavily tasked
Yeah, exactly, and I'm and I've never claimed that we don't work hard never
We do
So I'm optimistic
That's what I'll say in summary. Yeah, yeah
There's got a couple potentials left you guys want to answer that or should we curate them?
Let me look oh well we got to curate this one
Oh
Hey DLL my hubby, and I were in the LTX vid as two gamers one CPU nice
The PC is a windowless is in is in a windowless basement room with our
Server and run through a thunderbolt cable back to the gaming room any tech tips on
cooling without a pool
Yeah, so believe it or not that stupid
Radiator setup that we had in one of the parts of whole pool water cooling
Where Alex and I put one radiator outside?
It's just a simple car radiator with some rent with like a random Walmart box fan on it and then one
Inside and then a tube running through the wall
That actually worked probably better to cool the room than what I just did
Bearing in mind of course that what I just did added net new heat that it then removes
Effectively did nothing, but just taking that radiator and
Cooling it outside and then heating so heating the water inside with the hot air and then dissipating that heat to the outside
worked pretty great and
I actually
Had kind of thought at that time you know
Maybe this whole pool water cooling thing is kind of stupid, and I should just do this because with whole pool water cooling
I can't go sub ambient
but
with a waterproof fan and
Some kind of misting system I could
So I could use like face
I could use evaporative cooling as long as as long as water is plentiful in your area or something like that you could use
Evaporative cooling to actually go sub ambient on that radiator outside, so I mean
Essentially it's always just how to move heat and water tubes are a really effective way to move heat however
I will say this I
Don't think that any of this is going to be cost effective, so I would only do it if it's for fun
Hi team, please tell a story about a time you have felt like a sims character
I'm not gonna lie. I don't I don't really get this
Why'd you curate it that I didn't I didn't curate it dented. Oh, I watched it happen fine. Okay, then go Dan
Yeah, I don't know yeah bright guy
Right now. Yeah, why does he have so much light? We don't have any light
Yeah, I got three mortars just pointing up my face. I can see nothing I
Don't know it was a one that was an incoming. I thought you guys might be able to what's answer
What was that? I don't I just like controlled by another entity
All the time
Constantly
Okay, I'm back down. Go to work. Go to work. What are you here?
Career I always say that I'm piloting a toddler that I can't control go to gym strength increase. Yeah, there you go eat
I'm controlled by societal pressures plate chest intelligence increase always fighting back
Last one I've got here hello from Bowling Green, Ohio
Linus have you liked the GR Corolla so far and what are your thoughts on Toyota six-speed intelligent manual transition?
I don't have a lot of thoughts on intelligent transmissions because I'm really not much of a car guy
But the GR was a blast I didn't end up buying one. We only played around with the press car and did the review
I just I can't justify having more than one car
And I'm not going to swap out the Taycan for it given that I already have the Taycan
If I if they were both on the market today, and I was shopping again
It's pretty fun. I don't know that I would spring for the stupid mobile, but
Yeah, I don't have any thoughts on the transmission. I'm afraid
Okay last one
Timestamp guy here, okay?
I can't validate that but they say they are I've been designing a wan show themed
LTT screwdriver holder capable of housing all the bits thoughts on selling 3d printed projects on LTT store
I'd actually rather not sell them. I mean if if there's marketplaces where you can list it
I think there's a pretty vibrant dude up. Yeah, there's also already some up there. Yeah, LTT hold on
I think there's like a surprisingly vibrant accessory ecosystem
There's been some cool ones posted on the reddits
And I think in some cases that was people just showing off their cool project and in other cases that was people
Stealth advertising their Etsy's and stuff because this is definitely a thing oh
Wow yeah like check this out. Oh wait. No not this one
Stop we're off the rails here. Yeah
LTT screwdriver carrying case
LTT stubby screwdriver
Case like this is this is one thousand percent a thing
Yeah cool right neat we are gonna probably do our own at some point
But you know for the time being it's definitely something that you can get and it's something that you know we are
We are at the very least
Accepting of
You know I don't think that we're gonna be going out of our way to
You know promote this because we might have our own competing products at some point or whatever else
we don't want to we don't want to like rug pull anybody, but
We're also not gonna. We're not gonna. You know be upset about anything. We think this is overall really cool
Yeah, really really really cool
And I think that's it
That's it
Thanks for tuning in you guys
You'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel if you're just tuning in pretty late in the show here
Just bear in mind the VOD might take a little bit because the show was interrupted
So we have to take those two pieces of the VOD splice them together then upload and process
So it's gonna take some time especially on full plane, and that's actually like a lot of time. Yeah, yeah, okay?
Okay, see ya bye
I
I'm like so ready for bed right now. Yeah, I
Might take a piece of pizza actually yeah, it's weird cuz I don't wear onesies
But it like immediately made me feel like I want to go to bed. It's just so odd. I don't really get that
What a hilarious garment I