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We are a little late.
No, we're right.
Do they even-
I was talking in the Twitch chat, we're right.
We're right.
We are now a top shelf one.
Do they even want to hear why at this point?
Is it just- are they just tired of my excuses?
I don't think we should bother anymore.
Because, like, is it actually really any different?
How about just a short summary?
Sure.
We don't touch the computer from week to week, and yet it doesn't work when we sit back down in front of it.
Capture cards are a giant steaming pile of garbage.
Basically all of them, as far as I can tell.
And, uh, what was the other- what was the other bit this week?
Well, yeah, we- okay, okay.
I had to give back the XLR audio interface that I had borrowed for the last couple of weeks to find out if that would work with our external compressor.
And so I had to give that back, so I had to reconfigure that, but I knew that was coming.
That part was actually fine.
It was- the part that really bothers me is the part where I literally do not touch this entire corner of the building for a week, and I come back and it doesn't work.
This camera does get taken down every week.
Yeah, but that's not the issue.
Right, but you are unplugging things.
It's not like it was just running for the whole week.
I didn't.
So there's that.
But it doesn't matter if you did or not.
And actually the camera did not get unplugged this week.
It wasn't here.
What do you mean it wasn't here?
You said the camera wasn't- you told me it wasn't set up.
What camera?
Well, no, it was sitting here.
Just, like, it didn't have a lens on it.
Oh.
Yeah, but a lens does not affect the connection between the SDI cable and the converter and the capture card.
To be honest, though, like, I don't understand- I feel like we need to just simplify things.
Like, I used to do a lot of Wii U streams using AVerMedia cards, which is like a video capture off of something, and never had a single problem with any of those streams.
Yep.
And yet, here we are with AVerMedia cards and other cards.
Well, we're trying to use Blackmagic ones and we still have them in the computer, which is probably causing problems.
Yeah, no, I don't think that's causing the problem today.
Sure.
That was definitely part of the issue.
That was definitely part of the issue, but nothing to do with the fact that our live game are portable.
All of a sudden, it needs a bunch of audio delay.
Anyway, so, let's get right into what topics we have today.
We got one of them.
What?
We said one of them, didn't we?
No.
We didn't even get to one of them?
No.
Alright, that's classic.
Go for it.
Amazon Drone Service is- there's no other notes other than that, so there's probably some information about the Amazon Drone Service.
More details.
More details. Also, Radeon Fury X2 is on the way.
Something we kind of knew.
Just Cause 3 runs like garbage on the consoles, which we probably could have guessed, even if we didn't already know.
And VTech basically just- I mean, not because they had any kind of choice in the matter, but they admit that their tablet was recording personal data and that they were storing it.
And this was a toy tablet, right?
Yes.
So going super deep into the topic, is it worse because it's for kids?
Yes.
It is way worse.
It is many, many, many times worse because they are minors.
I had to ask him because he's a parent.
I already had that opinion, but his matters more.
I didn't think I was that obvious.
I think it's pretty obvious.
That it matters more if it's a kid?
No, you called me a parent.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Alright guys, so everyone's all upset about my fantastic dad jokes.
I liked it.
It was good.
Especially because I was saying that I had to ask that because you were a dad.
So the timing was good and the quality was good.
Haters gonna hate yo.
Alright, so this is about the least expected use of Jeremy Clarkson's talents that I could
have possibly seen coming over there at Amazon.
Is it muted?
Do you want it to be muted?
Yeah, muted is fine because basically they just have him explain that Junior here needs
cleats or something and then whatever.
If only there were some way that Amazon could send it to you.
I wonder how much Puma paid for this product placement because he says the name of the
specific cleat literally like it felt like six times in the video.
So this is cool.
So this is a VTOL drone which means vertical takeoff and landing actual flight footage
not simulated apparently.
And then what it does is because you can see it's kind of got a weird shape to it here.
It actually converts to a forward flight craft.
What the crap?
Just like that.
So it has a range of I think they were figuring something to the tune of around 18 miles.
It uses sensors to sense things, you know flight data like speed and what that looks
kind of simulated and then basically it finds a suitable landing point delivery zone and
I think there's actually like a little like like printout tag you put in your yard.
Oh, that it goes and finds then they actually show it landing right on it.
Now, I was one of those people who was in the camp of this is pure this is pure April
Fool's joke.
They are messing around with us.
I was of the mindset that they were just messing with us when they originally announced that
they would deliver packages by drone, but it looks like they are actually serious about
this.
They have done a fair bit of R&D presumably based on what they're saying in the video
about, you know, how the drones have sensors to go around, you know, hot air balloons or
whatever else.
So they're working on it and they seem to be like for real about making this happen.
Apparently it is designed to safely get packages to customers in 30 minutes or less making
it actually faster for a small item.
Mr. Clarkson works in a little joke about how the dog who chewed up the shoe is now
getting a chew toy along with the new shoes.
Um, so as long as they are small lightweight items and under 30 minutes, there is no launch
date.
The drone in the video can fly for 15 miles.
15 miles.
Sorry.
I said 18 miles.
My bad.
15 miles.
Um, so that, that means that not everyone's really gonna be able to get this and I wonder
how widespread this is actually going to be considering the Amazon fresh campaign.
Is that still only in Seattle?
Amazon fresh?
I know.
I thought they were in New York too.
They might be.
I'm not sure.
I haven't looked this up.
I was just thinking about that right now.
Um, Amazon seems to do things, but then not necessarily spread them out actually all that
well.
Yeah.
Amazon fresh subsidiary company in Seattle, Washington.
It revived the business model of ordering groceries online and bibbidi bopbidi bibbidi
bopbidi product lines, uh, selected parts of center city, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
New York city on October 17th, 2014.
So yeah, it's like San Francisco, San Diego still kind of taken some time to spread out.
Yes.
So obviously this is not something where it's like, yes, this is driving 18% of our annual
revenue.
Uh, nothing, nothing like that.
But um, and there's still problems just like there was last time where putting prime air
into service will, this is a quote, putting primary into service will take some time,
but we will deploy when we have the regulatory support needed to realize our vision.
That's huge.
Yeah, it's going to take a while.
And I mean this doesn't address a lot of the other issues as well.
So the drones that the, the drone they showed off there apparently flies at about 400 feet.
So for the, um, for the metric people, it's about 130 meters, uh, which it's, it's not
very high actually.
So if, if the whole thing that people are joking about online and you know, if someone
jokes about it, uh, hunting the drones, if, if a thousand people joke about it online,
one person's going to do it.
One will do it.
So the kind of all it's going to take is for one person to shoot like a net gun at a drone,
have it come down, peg some kid in the head, kill them.
And then I was just going to say the first one that falls is going to be really interesting.
Yep.
Can Amazon just pay its way out of this?
You know, like here's $6 million, sorry, your kid's dead or whatever, like, I don't know.
Will they, will they keep the program going at that point?
How important is it for people to get things in 30 minutes or less?
There's currently about airplanes, like really regulatory maintenance issues where they're,
they're repairing the planes out of the States because there's lower, uh, I don't know what
the right word for it is.
Uh, you don't have to be as careful when you're doing maintenance when you do it outside of
the States.
So seriously, airplane people like airlines are, yes, looser regulations.
That's what I was looking for.
Uh, there's lower amounts of regulations, looser regulations for repairing airplanes.
They're doing it outside of the States.
Uh, they're already sketchy about airplanes.
Think about drones.
Are they going to be doing maintenance checks on these things?
Like every trip or every couple trips?
I doubt it.
Yeah.
Unless Amazon has like robots that are going to do that, but then, uh, I don't know.
Uh, it's a really cool idea.
People are saying that the limit for drones is 400 feet and that's why, yeah, but that's
not really the point.
The point is that people will be bringing them down.
Yes.
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean if the U S changes the regulations and allows Amazon to fly them higher, then
that's, that opens up a whole other can of worms because someone in the chat said, so
I guess we're all wondering if Amazon prime air is gonna take off.
Um, so there was one other comment that I wanted to make about it.
All right.
Yeah.
One of the first, one of the top comments on the, on the video was from someone saying
like, Oh, you know, the, the couriers must be, must be really worried about this.
To which I would reply, I really don't think so.
Amazon even now is positioning this and intelligently so is positioning this as a, as a premium
service.
Yeah.
So this is not like, you need to have a market, like if you saw in the video, you need to
have a little like drop the package here thing in your yard.
I don't know how many people are going to actually do that.
Well, no, I think you just, you just like print it when you place your order and you
check it there.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think it looked like it was down in the grass.
I don't think it's permanent.
It looks, I don't know.
In the video.
Okay.
And then like did a heavy one so that it wouldn't like get blown away and stuff probably look
better yet.
You had another concern that ends up in your neighbor's yard.
They're like, Nope, my property now, um, what, yeah, what happens when it screws up a delivery?
So so, okay.
There's a lot of concerns.
Okay.
So a it's expensive.
B this is going to be for lightweight items only small orders only.
I'm pretty sure they were doing cleats.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that ups is not worried at this point about, you know, all the people
ordering like half the, I, I'm just trying to think what percentage of the stuff we order
off of Amazon would fit in a little drone like that.
Oh, that's not much.
Yeah.
Not, not much.
It's like if you order a computer case, I don't think there's going to be the, like
the jumbo drum with that said for the like books and stuff.
If you can carry cleats, you might be able to carry a book or two and Zeppelin technology
is coming back.
That's awesome.
Zeppelins are coming back, my friend.
So they can get this Zeppelin drone going as long as they don't make them out of crane
lower out of it and drop your package up like crane lowers out and then it just like tilts
up and it slides off.
I mean, okay.
As long as they don't make the Zeppelins out of hydrogen or lead, then we're in really
good shape.
Yeah.
Here you go.
All right.
Let's just see if there's anything else to really say about it.
Probably probably not.
I've talked about this thing like three times.
Almost nothing's changed except there's a video.
Well, the smart, the video changes a lot for me because seeing, seeing such an elegant
design for a VTOL plane, the drone itself is super cool.
Makes a big difference to me because when they originally did the April fool's joke,
they were using a quad copter drone or, or a six copter drone, if I recall correctly.
And that's like some of the stuff out of China, where we've seen like, you know, early attempts
to, it's all like these six copter, like just total like disaster over long distances designs.
Whereas yeah, if you can go all plane, all plane, uh, you know, forward flying on it,
then it might actually work very, very cool.
I want to know what prevents people from capturing them when they land in their yard.
Like I'm sure they have sensors, cameras, whatever.
Yeah.
Cause I'm, I'm fairly sure that I could order something to anyone's address for one thing
I could put on a ski mask or whatever and like capture the drone when it lands, put
it in a lead box and you know, take it away to the, I don't know.
Like I'm sure I'm someone's, if something is valuable, someone will come up with a way
to steal it.
Yeah.
Period.
Someone will probably get one.
Yeah.
Or it'll land and drop off its thing and then not really be able to leave.
Like I don't know.
Something's going to happen.
And I guess it's funny you have, people are worried about like automation and rightfully
so.
But uh, I mean that creates a new job, right?
The guy whose job it is to get in his car and drive to the customer's house.
Be like, Hey, yeah, sorry.
The drones in the backyard.
Can I just, here's a, here's a gift card.
I'm going to go get that.
Thanks for that.
Yeah.
Um, so that was posted on the forum by a pixel density.
Thank you for that.
Uh, next article today posted by PC beyond on the forum, YouTube seeks to compete with
Netflix.
Original article here is from arstechnica.co.uk and I think YouTube's intentions of, you know,
getting movie deals and TV show deals, um, and wanting more, more professionally made
premium content is not exactly new, but what is new is that there are some more details
about them being perhaps a little bit more serious about it than last time around.
So the wall street journal reported that YouTube is looking to bolster YouTube red specifically
with TV shows and movies because YouTube premium or whatever they called it before movies on
YouTube before.
That's not new.
And you've been able to watch like UFC fights and yeah, but so, but, but that was pay-per-view
and rentals.
Yeah.
Whereas this would be like basically a direct shot across the bow of Netflix by saying,
okay, no, we want to have a monthly subscription that also includes TV shows and movies.
And if they pull this off, I mean, YouTube red effectively becomes your Spotify, your
Netflix and your ad free YouTube.
Like the ads, free ad free YouTube for 10 bucks a month is already a compelling enough
value that I'm probably going to do it.
And then you get music and you might get movies as well and you might get movies and then
TV shows and TV shows and TV shows.
I mean, ad free ad free YouTube from a purely, I need my kids to shut up for half an hour
while I get a little bit more sleep in the morning is already enough for me to spend
the $10 a month on it.
Because let me tell you, a one year old is super interested in, you know, a is for apple
apple and then when some ad for like Biore skin cream comes on, she starts, she starts
mashing at it, she starts throwing it, she starts making noise, I'm like, no, I'm still
sleeping.
No, it is for Apple, please.
And snoozing in the morning when you get woken up every, literally every three and a half
minutes when the ad comes on.
And you know, it's amazing how much the way that YouTube has monetized kids content has
changed in the last two years because when my son was one and I wanted to sleep in in
the morning, like kids TV one, two, three had almost no ads on it.
Like one out of every 30 videos that played was going to be monetized.
Now it's like every single one.
That's a huge percentage of YouTube at this point.
Yep.
Yeah.
But I just, I thought that the, you know, kids advertising, kids advertising laws were
a little complicated, which isn't to, yeah, which is then again, I guess, you know, TV
does it too.
Yeah.
Cause there's like rules depending on the country.
Like in Canada, this is interesting about any of this in Canada, a commercial can't
start with, Hey kids, do you want to buy the new wild, wacky, amazing adventure pack?
It has to be like, Hey parents, do you want to buy for your kids the wild, wacky, amazing
action pack?
Look at how amazing this thing is.
So it has, it's the voice that, that it's speaking, it has to address a different audience.
And I guess that leads us, that actually leads us pretty well into this post by Z mule on
the forum.
The original article here is kit guru and V tech, V tech nailed sun.
So if you guys, you guys know V tech, like I only really know them from like clear plastic
cordless, you know, phones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Back when we had a landline.
Yeah.
A lot of people have those as landlines.
At least, at least here anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You walked in, you wanted a cordless phone.
You wanted, and you wanted a relatively cheap one, 900 megahertz, 2.4 gigahertz like there's
tons of these.
Yeah.
So, so basically they admit their toy hack affected 6.4 million children.
This is, this is great.
Their statement about it.
So I'll give you a bit more details after, but regrettably, our database was not as secure
as it should have been.
So in a nutshell, I'm on the 14th of November, it's learning lodge app store was broken into
giving a hacker access to the customer database and kid connect services.
So what's the worst thing about this is that servers.
Yeah.
So this hack actually allowed them to get access, not only to just like a, you know,
a login and login and password, but they actually were able to figure out the exact, the exact
accounts that they were tied to giving them access to way more personal information than
just that.
And they had a bunch of other stuff in their data, in their, in their system, including
the hackers were able to access more than 190 gigs of photos and audio logs off of these
devices that can then be traced back to usernames and account details, which makes the security
threat much more worrisome, especially considering that this is a child friendly marketed device.
The into tab, max our fastest tablet featuring V sex, V to V sex, whoops, V tech selected
Android apps and games.
That's really sketchy.
I'm not a huge fan of that.
It also, um, compromised other sites as well.
One of them, I can't even really say Loomie Bo X Revs.
I don't know.
Probably said that super wrong.
V smile link.com sleepy bear lullaby time, which is the greatest name for a website ever.
Yeah.
I kind of want to buy that site.
It reminds me of channel super fun, sleepy bear lullaby time.
Dot com.
So great.
Anyway, so these are all V tech, uh, owned entities.
So I guess, uh, I guess, I don't know.
What is there to really say, by the way, is email posted this on the forum.
Thanks for that.
What is there to really say other than, you know, lock up your, lock up your kids and
keep them away from all internet and hide Joe.
Hi Joe.
What hide your kids.
Hi Joe.
Kids lock up, lock up your daughters.
That's the, Oh yeah.
I thought you were going for internet.
No, no, no, no.
Hide your kids.
Hide your wife.
Yeah.
Cause they hacking everybody out here.
Yeah.
Nothing, nothing safe.
Hey, not really.
I think I own V tech stuff, nothing, nothing that collects any personal information.
It's like, I don't, because the only thing I ever knew that they made were like relatively
cheap phones.
That's the only reason why I don't know.
I'm pretty sure they make lots of kids stuff cause I have like this, uh, I have like this
goofy, um, it's got like a keyboard on it and it's got like just kind of games like
fill in the letter blank and there's like a, there's like a happy bear that asks you
to fill in the letter.
Create a letter bridge.
Uh, yeah, no, not a sleeping bear.
I love that website name.
Um, sleepy bear lullaby time.
This is kind of a big deal posted by, I don't know how to pronounce that, but, uh, on the
forum.
So this is from geek.com.
Sony unlocks the PlayStation fours seventh processing core for developers.
So in a nutshell, this is something Microsoft already did a little while back, um, in order
to get a little more competitive with the PlayStation four is the, the AMD custom processor
that they're actually both using, although different, slightly, slightly different versions
of it.
But the actual CPU course themselves, they're both using an eight core APU of sorts.
And uh, so the X bone was reserving two of its cores for things like, uh, connect, say
for example, um, so Microsoft kind of went, oh shoot, we're kind of losing the performance
war because Microsoft went with a slightly slower tune version.
So they unlocked a seventh core, which means that in games that need to leverage that extra
horsepower, you can't access, um, some background processes such as menus and, and connect safe
are such as, sorry, excuse me, menus, uh, such as connect, which is good, which is,
which is fine because if the game wasn't going to leverage connect at all anyway, then it
can use the processing power that would have been locked and unused.
Yes.
Um, and with, you know, if you're making, you know, happy dance party time X or whatever
game you bear sleepy time, then you frankly don't need the seven cores anyway.
So that, that seems like a pretty good compromise to me.
So place, so Sony has now I think we're, yeah, so this was back in January that Microsoft
did it.
And almost a year later they have now done the same thing, allowing the PlayStation four
to basically get as close to its potential maximum as it can, which is going to be brutal
for X-Box one because they already did this and like still losing to PlayStation.
So now PlayStation will be even more ahead with, I guess the, um, the, the, the main
this dis the discussion point here because that news in and of itself is not actually
terribly exciting. The consoles, this generation are underpowered whoopty fricking do.
Here's what I want to know. And I want to hear from you guys. We're going to straw pull
this up in here.
Nice. I'm excited. I like straw pulls.
If you think back to Microsoft X-Box one launch event, their whole thing,
The server thing. Is that what you're talking about?
No, I'm not going to talk about that. That's a whole other ball of wax that might not,
that might just never see the light of day. Um, so did we're going to use cloud servers
to render things for your thing and it's going to make it easier and better and faster and
that'll never happen.
All right. Uh, hold on. I'm just going to create, I'm going to create the, uh,
Like skiing and world of Warcraft. How many times have they said they were going to put
skiing in the game? Nope. Have they? Yeah. It was on the, it was on the back of the box
for wrath of the witch king.
Excellent. All right. Well at any rate, there's the straw pull. Um,
Some facts that don't matter. There you go. Did not know that. So if you think back to
the, you guys, I didn't even ask the question. I haven't clarified yet. Keep the tab open
so you can fix it in case you change your mind. So if you think back to the X-Box one
launch event, Microsoft's whole spiel was that the X-Box one is not a game console.
It is like your family living room hub. It is your entertainment hub. It is your, you
watch TV on it. You, you know, wave at it and you're like, Hey, X-Box wow. Wake up and
let's play some games. Oh, well not just games. Maybe we're going to look at our photos or
access our skydrive or I guess they still called it skydrive at that point. I don't
know. Anyway, the point is it was supposed to be more than just a game console, a game
machine, but not a PC. It wasn't a PC. They didn't know what the hell it was. So did they
learn their lesson? Is that what we're figuring out here now that Microsoft and Sony have
both kind of gone, Oh shit, people don't really care other than like their Netflix app. They
don't really care about doing anything on this other than playing video games. I don't
think they have. It turns out a game console is just a console. Or are they going to come
back with the X-Box two and the PlayStation five and are they going to be like, if they
call it the two, I'm going to, I'm going to like crap a break. Okay. If they call it the
X-Box two. So are they going to come back with that and go, yeah, we added way more
power this time for way better gaming. And also we cordoned off a bit of it again for
like, we're going to still try and do that other stuff again. So I want to know, I want
to know from you guys. So let's, let's head over to my screen. Let's have a look at straw
pool results. We've got a whopping 58% of you. Most of whom didn't even wait for me
to explain the question saying, no, they did not learn their lesson. A 31% of you are voting
for turnip the way you should throwing away your votes. I love the timing of our whole
vote for turnip thing. And then Donald Trump president. Every time I wear that shirt, every
time I wear that shirt, people are like, ah, it's a Donald Trump joke. Cause you might
as well just vote for a turnip and it kind of looks like it. Um, and then 11% of you
go, yes, they're going to treat a game console like a game console next time. I don't think
so. Okay. Well I was about to ask what you think, but I guess way to interrupt me. Why
do you always interrupt me? There's multiple stories of stream. I'm like, okay. Anyways,
I don't think that they have, uh, reasons for why I don't think that they have for largely
based in the past. I know things have changed, but still, um, this was the first time that
they've made money by selling their console. So I feel like not much. I know, but still
before they were losing, now they're making some, it's actually a pretty significant difference
when you're selling that much volume. So you're saying we're still going to get underpowered
consoles because they got used to the idea of making money selling the console. Before
it was like accessories and whatever, and we'll make it and it'll be awesome. Now it's
like experience and we want to make more money cause it's more premium or not really. And
$160 accessories. Yeah. Yeah. That too. Elite controller. Yeah. Um, so I don't really think
so. And this honestly should have been in there from the start, even if it was, um,
still aimed to not be as gamey of a game console as it is. Right. Um, because why not? Yeah.
Why force the developer? Yeah. So I don't think that actually has anything to do about
them learning that it should be just a game console. I think that has them has more to
do with that should have just been a thing. Why lock it off? That's just stupid. I will
explain why. And actually, you know what? Cause they're trying to force people to use
the thing. I was going to say, no, it's, it's deeper than that. I was going to say that
I was going to disagree with you. I was going to say that I think they learned their lesson
and I think they're going to come back focused on gaming and gamers. But I actually realized
as you were talking that I'm with you, but for a slightly different reason, because I
think they are still going to try to force the game developers to use the gimmick and
they're still going to try and create the gimmick because at the end of the day, 900
P versus 720 P is something that the PC audience cares about, but that the console audience
is frankly, many of them not that interested in. Whereas when you create a marketing video,
look at how many Wii's, look at how many Wii's Nintendo sold from showing people waggling
sticks around. Honestly though, that was legitimately fun and the Kinect isn't. But that's what
the marketing, that's, that's the marketing engine. That's why they're going to keep forcing
game. They're going to come up with a gimmick and they're going to force game devs to use
the gimmick and they're going to, they're going to, they're going to punish game devs
who don't use the gimmick and they're going to do it again and again and again because
that's visually interesting. Whereas 300 FPS at 4k, well actually 4k, they might be able
to sell, but, but, but not for a long time because 4k TVs are only now just barely approaching
affordability. Okay, first off, I am a Nintendo fan boy, so I get that like fairly across
the board. We know. Even though they're despicable in so many ways. They're pretty bad, but it's
okay. It's okay. It's fine. It's all that's coming out soon. Yoshi's adorable. I have
the wooly one, the little toy, because I bought Yoshi's Wooly World, which is just the best
game. It's so much fun. If you complete a level with 100%, you get another Yoshi and
he comes and like, you can get like a cow Yoshi or like a forest Yoshi and they're hilarious
and they're super cute. Anyways, moving forward, with the Wii, when they make some crazy gimmick
thing, you can just ignore it. The developer can just ignore it. With the game pad thing,
you don't have to use it. Unless the developer's Nintendo and they're making Twilight Princess
and then they're going to do some stupid crap. Yeah, sure. I had to buy a classic controller
just to play that stupid game. Yes. Yes. Carry on though. But they can, they don't force
people to use the gimmicky things. Like you can just turn the controller sideways, turning
it into more retro style controller. Use none of the motion stuff. The least ergonomic retro
controller ever. It's pretty rough, but still use none of the motion stuff. With a condom
on the end. You don't have to. You can take that off. You can go raw. But that's not safe.
That's true. Bareback is not the kind of Wii use that we... To be fair though, that's the
only way I use my controllers. Because you trust yourself not to throw them at your TV.
I mean, okay. This is okay. Sorry. Do you still have your train of thought? Will you
be able to come back to it? I'm good. Go for it. Okay. Okay. So I was sitting at work.
Okay. I was at my desk. So I was working at NCIX back when the Wii came out. So I was
sitting at my desk and I had gotten the Wii for myself for Christmas for my family, but
it was for me. So I had gotten the Wii for myself for Christmas and my in-laws and my
now wife, then girlfriend and I had spent the entire holiday season bowling and playing
tennis with each other. And it was great. So I start reading the articles about people
breaking their TVs, flinging Wiimotes into them. And I'm at my in-law's house and I'm
talking to my then girlfriend, now wife. I don't now have a girlfriend. And I'm like,
what kind of flipping idiot throws a Wiimote at the TV? So she kind of goes ashen, right?
And like, she kind of changes the subject. And I'm like, meanwhile, I want to talk about
this forever. I'm like, you gotta be freaking kidding me. Like, if you're that sweaty, take
a break. Okay. Stop flinging your arms around. Just take a breather. Okay. The Wii even interrupts
you every like 20 minutes or whatever. It's like, yeah, yeah. Everyone just thinks, stop
playing Wii Sports for 10 minutes. Okay. So later on, I'm talking to her and she's like,
so yeah, my dad like threw the Wiimote today. He was in the room when I'm talking about
this. She's like, yeah, my dad threw the Wiimote at the TV today. He almost broke it. And I
was just like, what? That is so brutal. I thought you were talking about the like gel
sleeve. No, they didn't exist yet. Oh, this was in the early days. I'm like, oh gee. Yeah,
no, no, I know. I actually, I got one for the early too. That was what I was talking
about. Yeah. That was what I was talking about when I talked about the Wii condom. But I
got one, I was super lucky. You remember how the stock was super bad? Yeah. You couldn't
find them anywhere? I camped out twice. I didn't camp out at all. I walked into my local
Best Buy and like some employee that didn't know that they were back stocked or whatever
just put one on the shelf and I was like, uh, okay. Picked it up and bought it. The
person at the till was like, what? Yup, cool. Just walked out and got one. I think it was
probably someone else's order. So after I realized that I felt kind of bad, but I was
like, it's on the shelf. So I felt kind of bad all the way to the bank. Well, it was
kind of expensive at the time. Well, yeah. What was it like $400? I don't remember,
but I remember like I had saved up for it for a bit and I think my mom like helped contribute
because she wanted the fitness depi pad. I ended up with four of them before Christmas.
Yeah. Well my wife, my wife and I camped twice. Okay. And so my boss, the owner of NCIX needed
one. So that got a hefty markup. Yeah. Um, my other boss, uh, who was actually, he actually
visited our studio the other day. He's like, uh, he, I would consider him a friend, not
just like a former boss. Um, so my other boss got one, he got a less hefty, but definitely
you know, yeah, well they're going for this much on eBay. So you know, so I actually made
so much selling a couple of them that mine were effectively like a couple hundred bucks
for two and I bought some emotes. So, uh, so yeah, that worked out pretty well for me.
With that said, I don't have the kind of time to do stuff like that. Although I have exciting
news. When are you seeing star Wars? Uh, I'm waiting. I want to go with Brandon cause he's
good to talk to movies about afterwards and stuff. So I don't actually have a ticket yet
cause he doesn't have a ticket yet. So I, this is a major, this is a big shout out.
There's a huge, massive like we'd give opening day tickets. Well, not quite. Okay. But this
is a massive shout out to Anthony over at NCIX who thanks to, I'm not going to say how
he got them, but it's something to do with like a purchase that he made recently and
like an owner's club website that probably no one will ever visit ever. There's a special
nonpublic screening at 9am on the Saturday, 9am the day after it launches. So he has two
tickets and he was kind of shopping them around like, and Jack was like, yeah, I'm going with,
you know, someone else and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, and he, and I was like, and then
he was like, Oh, well I don't know, Linus, do you want to come? Do you have tickets yet?
I'm like, actually, no, because I have children. And so going to see like a late night screening
is not always the easiest thing for me and stuff like that. So I was, I was planning,
I was literally planning to spend three weeks with my eyes closed and my fingers in my ears
until I was going to be able to see it. Nope. I'm seeing it 9am. So, so Anthony and I have
a master plan to show up at like seven 30 it's first come first served. So we have a
master plan to show up at like seven 30 in the morning at the theater and it's going
to be fricking awesome. And I'm going to see it on time pretty much for the first come
first serve and you're showing up at seven 30 for 9am. But remember, this is not a public
screening. Probably no one knows about it. There wasn't even an email newsletter, nothing.
If you happen to sign into like the owner's portal. Wow. That's unlikely. Yeah. So I'm
expecting to be sitting like dead theater center for Star Wars the day after launch.
I'm super, super excited. I'm assuming Brandon is going to be waiting a little while because
I think he wants really good seats too. Yeah. So I'm probably going to be waiting a while.
All I can say is it better not disappoint because the last movie that I like freaked
out and saw right away was the Hobbit part one. Have you heard about the Darth Jar Jar
Binks? I have. I love it. It's actually pretty good. I actually love it. If you haven't seen
the conspiracy theory that pretty solid that Jar Jar is actually the Sith master orchestrating
everything behind the scenes. Check it out. It was a great post on Reddit. It's really
good. It's really good. There's like, it's, it goes all kind of like, well, hold on. Yeah.
Yeah. What if Jar Jar was all like, like drunken Kung Fu master kind of thing? Like when he's
like jumping around, go, oh, the missile, clumsy boom, knocking out drones and killing
them all over the place. What if it's all an act? And then he's like inexplicably in
the second movie, he's like a member of the Senate or something like this. What? Yeah.
Yeah. It's interesting. It actually like, you must've been using mind control. I still
don't. That's a huge part of the huge part of it. Yeah. And they have clips where he's
like doing the hand wavy thing all the time. Super interesting. I don't know. It's, it's,
it's ridiculous. And it's yeah, but it's fun and it makes you not hate so much those series
of movies. If you go back and I haven't done it yet, but rewatch with that in mind, I plan
to re I'm going to reread the whole spiel cause it's like a couple of pages long. Yeah.
I'm going to reread the whole spiel. I'm going to watch Phantom Menace again, thinking Jar
Jar is a mastermind. And it's trying to mind control and pretend that he's crappy when
he's not. Yeah. And he got, he got kicked out of the underground city. We know this,
he caused all kinds of problems. Stupid viewer. We assumed that, you know, he knocked over
the you know, Prince's daffodil plant or whatever, but you know, daffodils would be pretty valuable
underwater. Oh yeah. Wow. Probably be a rare, rare commodity imported daffodils. So, so
you know, was George Lucas planning, and this is the, this is the theory was George Lucas
planning a Luke, I am your father moment for the end of attack of the clone. No, it was
me the whole time. That never happened cause he bailed. And obviously not, but yeah, it's
fun anyways. It's really fun. Speaking of things that are fun, Scott, our good buddy
over at AMD and not tech report. Didn't see that one coming. Did not see that one coming
is no longer, is no longer going to be cards on time now. Maybe this is a good thing. No,
he's not in that role. Oh yeah. Sorry. So, so I, I actually, I've spoken on the phone
with Scott since the announcement and I don't know how much of what was said was public
knowledge versus what wasn't. So I will give a summary of what's in, in his blog post and
not much more, but I'm gonna, I'm going to be connecting with him at CES and I'll probably
talk in some more depth. But just for those of you who don't know, I respect Scott a lot.
He's super smart. He's been doing this whole tech journalism thing. He's, he's just such
a respectable guy. He's been doing this for over 15 years. And you know what we actually,
like we have a, we have a partnership with tech report on a couple of things. Like we've
worked together on a couple of things in the past. And this just, he kinda like, I, I sent
him a tweet that was like, you know, we, we can't bleep things on wan show, so I'm not
going to use the exact words that I did, but it was just basically like what the, and you
can kind of fill in the blanks for yourself and yeah, like seriously. And he kind of sends
back the message. He's like, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, dude. I super meant to tell you,
but this just like happened really fast. And you know, AMD hosted an event, um, months
ago. No, no, some, some months ago the phone call happened, but then what happened really
suddenly was the deal got inked and AMD had an event that they did earlier this week where
they now it's actually a bunch of really cool stuff. We'll talk about that a bit more later.
Some Zen architecture stuff. Um, and they were like, well, you're going to be at this
event with an AMD badge on, so that's tomorrow. So I guess up goes a blog post at 1043 PM on
December the second. Oh my goodness. Okay. Yeah. So that's what happened. And um, so
pretty much he's going to be working at AMD to help implement the frame time based testing
methods for game performance that he's been championing at tech report. And, um, he'll
have an opportunity to, and I'm kind of summarizing his words in the thing, cause I don't want
to say anything that he didn't say in his post to move across organizational lines and
help ensure that the radio and technologies group creates the best possible experience
for gamers. So he'll have access to engineering, to marketing, to pretty much whatever with
the intention of making the gaming experience and the radio and technologies group, which
I kind of looked at that announcement of radio and technologies group and kind of went, Oh,
okay. So they're kind of going, okay, we're going back to AMD and ATI now. And I kind
of figured it would just kind of all be under the same management. It wouldn't really be
different up apparently. No, there's no refocused renewed vision and focus with a under a Raja
Kuduri's leadership and this is going to be a real thing. And they've managed, they've
managed to get Scott to drink the Kool-Aid. So I am inclined to take a sip of the Kool-Aid
myself. So is it RTG now instead of ATI? I don't know. RTG three or four 90. They should
have just called it ATI. It would have been super cool. That would have been so sick.
I actually love that. Like, like if it, like if they called it like the, like, Oh, like
AMD, you know, uh, how do we work like a visual or graphics or like, Hmm, ATI X 1000. Yeah.
Or like something, something like that. Anyway. So yeah, that was, that was, that kind of,
that kind of, that kind of shook me up earlier this week because between, between Scott and
Anand bailing and, uh, that's a couple, that's a couple like pretty big, that's a couple
pretty big names. And one of the only really couple of the hardcore written guys that I'm
that close to who's no longer in the space. Speaking of which I haven't talked to Shrout
in a long time. I was just going to say Ryan. Um, I asked Scott what's going to happen to
tech report. Obviously he'll be stepping down as editor in chief, but I don't know if you
guys know this Scott also owns the tech report. So, um, it doesn't take a genius to figure
out that he can't work for AMD and also run an editorial website and own an editorial
website at the same time. So, uh, something's going to have to happen there. Um, I asked
him about it. I can't say anything that he said, but like, yeah, something will have
to happen. Yeah. I mean basically there's only a few options. He sells it, he dissolves
it, he, uh, shuts it down. I guess the two of those are the same from the knowledge that
we have from the post. I don't think he's going to shut it down or dissolve it because
it says tech report will continue under Jeff Capman, uh, Campman managing editor for the
last year and a half. So, and they're looking for writers to fill his role on CPU and graphics
cards. Yeah. So there you go. What a thing. Hopefully this will help them avoid things
like the driver problem. AMD drivers locking fans feeds at 20% and killing some CPUs. It's
been patched GPUs. Sorry. It's been patched. Um, I don't usually like talking about these
rumor kind of things until they're like done. So we know if they're actually a thing or
not. Yeah. Or like confirmed that it's an actual issue because I mean two people on
a forum can like have their GTX nine 80 die after a, and I'm not really going to want
to test it after a dry. I want mine to die. Yeah. So like, I don't know. We're just going
to wait till it's official and then we'll talk about it. So yeah, we, I had some people
messaging us messaging me asking about why we haven't been talking about the driver thing.
It's cause like, anyway, it was the thing. It is fixed now. So it is safe to update your
drivers. But basically the fan speed was locking way too low that you can't, or some people
apparently having it go up to a hundred percent. So things were weird. I don't know. Yeah.
It's fixed now. So we all know who to yell at next time this happens, you now have a
public figure. Yeah. Go for it. I don't know how, how forward facing he's going to be.
Yeah. But I'm sure his Twitter and stuff is still going to survive. I don't know. Maybe
not. I mean, is he going to delete his Twitter? Okay. So here's a couple of things. Like you
look at a, you look at Roy Taylor. Yeah. From AMD whose Twitter disappeared off the face
of the earth overnight and seems to be back. I think he's back on Twitter, but under a
different handle. Oh yeah. It's Roy underscore tech wood. And I, I had sort of, I had sort
of like I had my initial reaction when I saw this because tweets. Yeah, no, no, this is,
this is new, but he's only got like 4,000 followers. He had like, like over a hundred
thousand followers before. Yeah. So site is still AMD.com. Like I don't really understand.
I don't really understand what happened here. Um, anyway, so it seems like someone at AMD
learned their lesson about just letting employees talk on Twitter. Um, or maybe didn't cause
he's back. Like I don't, I don't know. I don't know the backstory of what happened there
and you know, there's just because someone is good at being public facing doesn't mean
that there'll be public facing. I mean, you look at, I don't think you can ban someone
from having a Twitter account though. If you, you can tell them not to post like, okay.
Have you heard, have you heard anything from a non since he left a non tech? No, but that's,
I don't think Apple though. I don't think, yeah, but I don't think Apple is even able
to tell you to not have a personal Twitter account. Of course they could fire you for
saying things about Apple. Okay. That's, that's possible. They, I don't think they can fire
you for just using Twitter. Um, but at the same time, like what I'm saying here is Scott
might not reply to people, but if you're like, Oh my God, what the hell? You could message
him and he could maybe forward that internally. You might never hear about it, but he still
would probably be able to be contacted. Maybe, maybe it's possible unless he deletes his
Twitter. Unless he deletes his Twitter. Very also possible. Um, speaking of deleting Twitter,
actually not related to the leading Twitter at all. Squarespace, one of our sponsors for
today. You can have a Twitter feed on your Squarespace page, which you can actually,
we know this from firsthand experience. We're working on a special Squarespace page for
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this year. Oh, apparently the video feed is frozen. Oh, that's a great free frame. We
should just do this still image Wancho. It's fine. Don't worry, but don't, don't even bother
fix it. It's just, it's cool. I wonder if they can see that. Oh yeah. This is the kind
of, this is the kind of crap that we go through. Oh wow. If you just add a whole bunch of them,
if you were able to change the still frame, you could wrap rapidly add them and then we
could have like a moving picture, like one, maybe less than one FPS. Okay, so let's find
out if this is going to blue screen. You're a blue screen. I'm about to be potentially.
Uh, okay. Did you ever play Magica? We'll be right back after these messages. No, wait,
it was the messages that got interrupted. We'll be right back after we, I don't know.
We're doing something. I'm going to keep talking to you guys. How's your day going? Before
the show started, I did two quizzes. One of them was what is your favorite type of Apple?
And the other one was waffles or pancakes. Uh, I'm going to actually make a straw poll
right now and I'm going to post that in the Twitch feed. I want you guys to answer both
questions. Both questions are gonna be on one straw poll. I know this is pretty like
next level, but we're going to do this right now. So give me one second. Straw. Yeah. Whoa,
nope. Okay. Um, wait, what it is. I'm confused. Apples. Uh, wow. How do I ask what people's
favorite type of Apple is on straw poll? I would have to list all of them. I think so.
Okay. We can do both at the same time. So I'm going to straw poll waffles or pancakes.
I'm going to Twitter blitz favorite Apple. Okay. Twitter blitz favorite Apple. I don't
think we're going to get this back up and running. This is a, this is, this is the thing
that happened that is, that is not making me super happy right now. No signal. Wait,
did the camera turn off? Holy hell. I mean, uh, Diablo, uh, what, uh, today, camera setup
was a problem. Camera set up was a huge problem. Like all over the place. Just saying that
was brutal. I'm in the middle of your show. I don't know what that means. You're going
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Are they on every video? Yeah. I can, I can feel the dankness of the memes already on
PC master race. Last year was Linus dropping things this year. It's going to be build it
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be corporate sponsored instead of charging it citizens taxes. Yeah. Which you know what
is actually, hold on a second. If we took all the money that gets paid to the government
in like lobbying and actually just spent it on something useful, that'd be pretty sick.
Hold on a minute. We might be onto something here anyway. The problem is then the people
that are receiving the lobbying money wouldn't get paid. So that would never happen. Right.
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like if people weren't Dick holes about making excessive amounts of money, imagine how good
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the time, it will probably be cancer. Oh yeah. Okay. So, uh, I, I've been corrected. So,
I don't know. I don't know what's worse. I, well, they're both terrible. Yeah. Yeah. They're
both like absolutely both just like at the full volume level. Like it's just, they're
both, you can't really get any more than that. I don't know because there's like, Oh, speaking
of heart disease, I found out rocket has a heart murmur. What? Yeah. So he might have
to be on like blood thinners for the rest of his life. That's interesting. Whoa. Yeah.
So like pet insurance kids, that's a thing. No, I don't have it. Oh, so that's going to
be expensive cause I'm pretty sure you can't buy pet insurance for in case he develops
a heart murmur when he already has one. Yeah. That said, my vet's a family friend. Maybe
they could discover it has not developed yet. I recommend using an honest vet. It's probably
a good idea. Yeah. Um, so this was posted on the forum by evil emir tiger direct to
oops, wrong scene tiger direct to lay off 241 workers in January. They were recently
sold to PC mall for $14 million. You know, what's crazy about this is like my memories
of tiger direct are like back in the days at NCI X, you know, eight to eight to three
years ago when they were like a legit competitor in the PC space and it was like the big three
was your new egg, your tiger. And like, I'm just trying to think who else was like a big,
I don't even think Amazon was not quite yet, but they definitely are now. But like tiger,
tiger came in. No, it would have been a zip zoom, zoom fly. Oh yeah. Yeah. They'd gone
gone forever. So, so it was like back when, like, you know, yeah, tiger direct and, uh,
and, and, and, and, uh, comp USA who was actually acquired by tiger direct. Like that's what
a big deal they were. They were just like running around buying up comp USA stores.
So they closed a bunch of stores a while ago and they have gotten rid of, um, they have,
they've sold to a PC mall, which I have actually discovered only recently that the reason that
they probably liquidated all those assets is actually to do with, um, taxation purposes.
Because if you, if you sell a company and you more than less than 10% or something to
do with being like active, active assets or something like that, like if it's like just
sitting there, if you have like a bunch of money sitting there or a bunch of buildings
sitting there, then you get taxed a lot more on that or something. That's okay. That's
yeah. Things I would never know. Yeah. Uh, all right. Why don't we blow through some
of these sort of boring things? A tweak town article and video rumored to be pair preparing
a G force GTX nine 60 TI it'll be faster than a nine 60 but slower than a nine 70 and you
can take that to the bank. Uh, Sam Strecker posted that on the forum. Uh, the radion fury
X to Gemini could be paper launching later this month. According to WCCF tech availability
in Q1 2016 could face potential delays. I think that says everything we need to know
right in the headline. What will Gemini be? It will be two fury GPU's on a single card
video seems to have kind of just bailed on the whole dual GPU thing. Oh God. So done
with it. Don't want it. Oh, there's a new gate. There's a new gate. There's a new gate.
It's been the gate again, but this time check this out. Oh, CPU bend gate. So Intel Intel's
looking into reports but says there could be several variables at play, but apparently
using the rated mounting pressure aftermarket CPU coolers, which by the way, if you bought
a Skylake K series processor is all you're going to be using since there is no stock
cooler that comes in the box. Well, you could buy a box cooler from someone else who isn't
using it. And speaking of which we need to get some box coolers. We have like two 1151
box coolers left in the entire building. Yeah, I don't know what happened to that. What happened
to the one I painted black? Remember we had the pyramid? Yeah, we had like a literal pyramid
of them. What happened to them all? I made a pyramid because I was like, I have too many
of these in my office. So I built a pyramid on someone else's desk as a joke and then
like didn't want them back. Yeah. They're like all gone. And now there's one that I
can't figure out what it's for. Cause it's not 775. It's not 13. It's like smaller than
1155, but bigger than 775. I don't know what the crap it is. It's an Intel box cooler.
So like, I don't know. Anyway. So yeah. Where's the black one? I don't know. I liked that
one. Right. We used it quite a few times. And we even, cause it looked really nice in
B roll. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know what? There's probably one in this box. But isn't
that? Yep. That's a black one. Oh, okay. Well there it is. We found that one. It's in the
stream machine. Maybe that's what's causing all the problems. Take out the painted, the
painted CPU cooler. It's getting paint flakes on everything. So right. So Haswell CPUs apparently
had a thicker substrate that caused them to not bend. And that's, that's the allegation,
but Intel has obviously neither confirmed nor denied that this is the case up until
this point. Yeah. Scythe has offered a solution offering new screws for their coolers to reduce
the mounting pressure. I didn't even know Scythe was still in business. Neither did I.
Okay. Do you remember their crazy one that like went across your entire computer? Yes,
I do forget what it was called though. Like a Mugen. Sure. Scythe giant CPU cooler. This
will probably work. I know that Cooler Master had a Radonk one that. Oh, that's not the
one. Oh. Yeah, there it is. Yep. There you go. So this picture is from silent PC review.
I'm just making sure I'm giving credit where credit is due. So yeah, it's probably not
all that silent. No, it probably is. Oh, you just turn them all. So yeah, if you run the
fans at like 400 RPM or something stupid like that, then here it is installed the case.
I love that thing. It's like, yeah, if you want to just, you know, heat up your graphics
card more. No, look, it's going to blow air on top of it. Okay. Yeah. But like the surface
area of this thing is so huge that the actual heating up of the air that's being done, this
is actually something that I, that I've been meaning. We should find a way to tackle this
in a video because a lot of people have this misconception that like when you, when you
got it, okay, when your CPU is 70 degrees, your heat sink is going to be less than that.
Let's say your heat sink is at 40 degrees or something like that. And people have this
misconception that when 25 degree air runs through those fins, it's 40 degrees on the
other side. And you're, and you're now, you're heating up the components on the other side.
This is not how it works at all. A little bit, a little, not much, slightly warmer air
flow that came through a heat sink is still better than nothing. Yeah. And so I've seen
people go, Oh, but goodness, Linus, you, you mounted that CP, that all in one liquid cooler
backwards, drawing air into the system. You're now, you're just, you're heating your graphics
card. No, the air that comes through that cooler is still cooler than my graphics card.
I was mostly joking. No, I know, but no, but people aren't. Yeah. I don't, you know, no,
but people don't know this. People are like, Oh, you've got two radiators in series. Well,
we were going to do that other, I don't know. I want, I don't want to say too much. No,
yeah, no, that's, that's different. I think we should tackle this. No, I know. But it's,
it's a, it's another one of those, like people think it's the worst thing in the world. Yeah,
that's true. Not really that big of a deal. John had another interesting idea, which I
don't know if there's enough interest in. But with the thing that I was recently checking
out, that's all I'm going to say. I actually don't know what he's talking about either.
So you guys are on the same page as me. Motherboard orientation, cooling efficiency. That's like
those Silverstone ones where it's like up and the IO goes out. Like how well does it
cool different things compared to it being rotated? It used to be a bigger deal back
in the earlier days of heat pipes. They were only really effective in a certain direction.
So inverted motherboards would have issues where if you mounted the heat, if you mounted
the cooler wrong, the the, the, the liquid wouldn't condense properly down to the hottest
down to the CPU part of the heat sink. And then it wouldn't actually cycle properly,
but it's, it's not really a concern anymore. I wanted to jump back to the things don't,
you know, a cooling medium doesn't get instantly hot after it touches something in the loop
that's warm. People who freak out if you've got your CPU and then your GPU in series and
a water cooling loop, the difference between the temperature of the water at the hottest
point in a loop and the coldest point in the loop is except in very extreme situations
with very low airflow or excuse me, very low water flow, probably in the neighborhood of
about 0.1 to 0.2 degrees. Seriously, it's a thing. Unless you're running like quarter
inch tubing on a pump that you like found in your, you know, grandma's. That place where
you got all your stuff for scrapyard waste. Yeah. Unless you found it in a back alley
somewhere. So, so no, the system reaches pretty much equilibrium. This is a fluid. This is
flowing extremely quickly. Really quickly. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the channels are like
really narrow. Yeah. Because water does, water does more than just a cool by convection when
it's running around in a loop like that. Like water can conduct heat within itself as well.
Like it, it's, it's, it spreads really quickly. It's, it's kind of amazing. Um, all right,
so what else have we got? AC mechanical engineer can confirm in chat. Boom. Thank you. Thank
you. You know, it's really funny because the fact that he's backing me up on this means
that I'm going, thank you. But 98% of the time when someone's like, I'm actually a mechanical
engineer and it's probably, it's probably nonsense on the internet because everyone,
like as soon as we start doing whole room water cooling, our entire audience is plumbers.
So many plumbers apparently watch us. And my favorite part was, okay, there was definitely
some information in there that was like, okay, we probably should've done that. There's some
great information. Also a ton of people claiming to be experts that had no idea what they were
saying. And yes, we know we screwed up. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It was a disaster. Oh yeah.
But not for the reasons that most people think it was a disaster. Like there was a lot of
stuff that we did that was fine and a lot of stuff we did that was super not okay. Um,
speaking of super not okay or maybe find these, I don't know. I am dark. Yoshi posted this
on the forum. The original law post here is from f.org your printer could be spying on
you, which it sounds more ominous than it probably is because the way that they're using
this technology, I think, I mean at least we would have no reason to think they would
be using it in any other way is to track, um, counterfeiting. So now that affordable
high quality printers are so affordable and high quality, I'm going to jump in here real
quick and venom. He's in the chat right now. Remember how he did the basement water cooling
thing still running perfectly because he did it right by not using a metal, a steel reservoir.
I thought stainless would be fine. I was wrong twice. I thought anti corrosive agents would
make it okay. I was wrong twice. Um, okay. So, so basically right here you've got a list
of the printers that do or do not display tracking dots. But the, the summary of this
is basically, um, and this goes back like way to when like Xerox invented the laser printer.
What they do is they actually use scattered pale yellow dots all over the document that
they printed to give the serial number of the machine as well as I think there's some
other information as well. The number of, but yeah, so Xerox rep says they put the number
of each machine coded into the yellow dots. The dots cover less than a thousand one thousandth
of a page and they can't be seen by the naked eye because it's usually yellow on white.
So what you have to do is you have to print a page and use a blue led flashlight and a
magnifier to see if they're there. And there's pretty much, I mean where there's a wheel
there's a way, but there's pretty much no way to block this from happening because the
yellow dots are actually something like twenty thousandth of a second blah blah blah before, before the actual
printing happens, they're like injected. So... What if you don't fill yellow? I don't know.
Great question. Ha. I don't know. Or like fill it with something else. Yeah, I don't
know. So there you go. Anyway, so something something. That's interesting. How does that
actually help them, I guess for counterfeiting stuff? Yes. So if you get a bunch of counterfeit
bills and you're kind of wondering, okay, where did these come from? You can inspect
it, try to see if the yellow dots are there for what printer it was from. But like having
the serial number of the printer, is that really going to help you? Yeah, that'll tell
you what distributor it went through. It'll tell you what retailer it was sold through.
Okay, so you could narrow it down to an area, I guess. Yep. So now you can, so you know,
it can tell you when it was sold. So you can see a purchase pattern. If it was Amazon,
you could probably have the person's address. Yeah, yeah. So no, no, it's like a big deal.
Or even, even a lot of other stores, like there's lots of stores that collect customer
profiles. I mean, I would hope that a counterfeiter would be smart enough not to fill out the
customer satisfaction survey or whatever. I would hope that they weren't. Yeah, okay,
I would hope that they weren't. But I would, you know, I know what you were saying. Yeah,
I was gonna say to restore my faith in humanity, except the fact that the counterfeiters are
running out there making fake money doesn't restore any of my faith in humanity. So not
really my point. You don't want it to happen, but you would hope that someone wouldn't be
that stupid. Someone made a case for you. So this was posted by numlock21. What? You
were talking about this just the other week. Oh, yeah, but they didn't know about that.
Yeah, yeah. So someone actually made a DIY Mac Pro case. I was talking to Linus about
maybe doing a video where I went and tried to buy like a bin or garbage can or whatever
that looked kind of like it and trying to make like the curved top thing, all this kind
of stuff to make it look like a Mac Pro and building a computer into it. And then literally
what, the next WAN show? Yeah. It's like, hey, they made a case. Now to be clear, you
can't put dual Fire Pro cards in or anything like that. It holds an SFX power supply and
ITX motherboard. And I think like one 120 mil fan or something like that. But yeah,
hey, there you go. That's cool. I think we should try and get one for review if we can.
That'd be fun. I'd love to just like check it out. Here, maybe I'll make that your problem.
Oh, great. Get for review. Because it's like only available in like Japan or something.
So if we send a message and they ignore it, then we won't go too far into that. So don't
expect it. Yeah, don't expect it. But I am trying to get that flip phone. Actually, dbrand
is trying to get that flip phone. No way. Because they have all the contacts to like
get all the phones. So even though it's not a device, are they going to put like a more
expensive skin than the actual phone on it? No, they actually they aren't planning to
support it. They're just like being gross. Makes sense. Yeah. They're kind of bros. So
we're into their broness. Let's see. Oh, yeah. Just Cause 3 suffers from terrible frame rates
on the consoles. This is posted over at the gamescabin.com. And basically, you have the
headline here is bloody awful. Which I guess pretty much says all you really need to know
about it. It was a matter of Oh, dang it. Did we just take them down? I don't think
so because I Yeah, there we go. Um, so yeah, basically, they're saying Yeah, you know,
it's like, especially bad when there's an explosion. Yes. Yep. Lots of effects on screen.
That is how frame rate dips work. Oh, crap. I just moved the thing around before anyway.
But the worst part they're actually saying too, is that load screens. Yeah. Anywhere
from 30 seconds to what was that? Two and a half minutes. Two and a half minutes. Yeah.
PlayStation four. That's like Morrowind Xbox One level. Yeah. Bummer. Apparently, though,
the game's lots of fun. So yeah, I've heard really good things. We probably should have
done a performance review. Probably. I didn't even know it came out. Yeah, I've been so
head down working on stuff. I didn't. Yeah. I was like, Yeah, it's tons of fun. Are you
guys making videos? Like, Oh, crap. If it's already out, probably late now. Oops. Alright,
what else we got here? I was gonna kind of wrap it up, actually. Alright. Um, yeah, no,
that's kind of boring. Yeah, I don't really care. There was no there was something else
I wanted to do. Where is it? I'm doing an after party. Are you? Yeah. All right. Can
I come? Sure. I mean. Oh, nope. Can't talk about that. Ah, Konami. Konami banned Hideo
Kojima from accepting the metal gear award. Yeah, this was like not cool. It's like they
it's like they desperately want to be the least popular company on the entire internet.
What? Or you could not. That would be super awesome. I'm not allowed to attend tonight's
game awards. Yep. So I don't really have anything to say about that other than that it's Konami
being Konami. And oh, this is interesting more just cause three news. This is off the
off gforce.com. Just cause three, apparently straight up not compatible with multi GPU
versions. In other words, a game update would be required for multi GPU support. This is
straight from Andrew Burns from Nvidia, which is sort of a sort of a bummer. So it's like
they couldn't get it right on the consoles. Remember that card that like I laughed when
he was like, yeah, Nvidia stopped doing this a while ago when they put two GPUs on the
same card and charged you twice as much for it. There's reasons. Yeah, but you're running
SLI now for VR. Yeah. Okay. I really hope no VR dev is stupid enough to not properly
support. I don't know if they're going to be able to, I think VR SLI is like rendering
the different eye views per card. Yes. But wouldn't that interface with the headset more
than the game? I don't know because I really would have thought, I don't know how they,
I would have thought if it was that simple, we would have seen perfect scaling with 3d
vision with SLI. Like I'd have thought if it was as simple as like, y'all just render
each eye with one GPU and boom, perfect scaling. I don't think it's simple, but I'm assuming
that it has more to do with the interface between the graphics cards and the headset
than. Oh, I believe it's not simple. I just think Nvidia is pretty smart and they've been
kind of, they, they were beating that 3d vision drum pretty hard for a long time. Yeah. And
if it was like, if it was as simple as GPU one renders the right eye, GPU two renders
the left eye. Yeah. I'd have thought they would have just figured that out back then,
but I don't know. I don't know. I am not a driver. My VR or my SLI is off. I just don't
run it cause there's so many problems and I just don't, basically every single game
that I play, even like even pretty intense games don't need more than one nine 80. Yeah.
I haven't run it since a GTX two 60. Yeah. That was the last time I was in a daily driver
and like we stopped benchmarking SLI probably what two and a half years ago, just because
it was like, you know what? There's tons of problems. It's hard enough to get a video
review, a video card review out without forcing ourselves to suffer. Yeah. And like, just
like have games not work and not run properly and stuff. So, I mean, it's one of those things,
nothing against Nvidia, nothing against AMD. I just, I run a single graphics card because
frankly there's single GPU solutions that are so powerful now. Someone's like, yo, can
I have your unused nine 80 then it's not going to be unused VR SLI from Nvidia. It's like,
I'm stoked for that. I really hope it works well. And I'm going to be playing the crap
out of VR games if Valkyrie is like, and it, okay. I almost don't even care that much about
any games outside of what CCP is making. I haven't talked about this a ton on the show,
but their disc throwing Tron game is so much fun. Like you would love it. No joke. You,
you stand, you stand, it's, have you seen the Tron where they stand on the platforms
and throw discs at each other and block with shields? It's exactly that. And it's like
pretty good tracking because they use connects for body tracking and stuff. Right. And like
the disc can bounce behind you and you can hear them. So you have to like spin around
and block it and then throw and like, it's really active. Tons of fun. I played against
Colton, just wrecked him. I mean, it would be fun to have a more athletic opponent. I'm
sorry. He doesn't think he's very good at sports. I don't know. But it was like 29 to
four or something. So like, I don't know what to say, but so much fun. And then Valkyrie
is super fun and gun Jack is super fun. And then like there were, there was some demo
of another game there where you just like slowly walk up a mountain. Okay. And look
at birds. And I'm like, that's really cool. And I'm sure some people were super enjoy
that. I definitely, there is a market for that for sure. It's just not me. Right. I
don't care. All right. Well, I think that's pretty much it for the show for today. So
I'm the last thing I'll do is I will drop this link in here. If you haven't already
go watch this video, it is finally out on YouTube. It's actually, I thought it was supposed
to be a week earlier. We actually totally screwed up our production schedule. We screwed
up our production schedule on, um, on the super fun jousting video where we thought
that for awesome stuff week for YouTube, we thought we had to have it done a week earlier
than we did. So we thought awesome stuff week was a week earlier than it was. So we released
it on vessel timed to come out a week later on YouTube for awesome stuff week. But that
was actually the following week. So we had to do a simultaneous vessel release of odious
lists and then delay the, uh, Swagway jousting video by another week. Um, Oh yeah, I was
going to talk more about Zen and some of the stuff that they talked about. Right. So am
for motherboards rumored to launch as early as March, 2016 and they're going to be, you
know, DDR for like fully modernized and it have both CPU's and APU's on the platform.
So if you guys haven't checked it out already, I just linked it in the chat, but this video
is absolutely sick. I mean this should give you some idea of what, uh, what's in store
for you. Okay. Well that one, that one's kind of lame because it's me versus Taren, but
uh, okay. Yeah, there we go. There's a good moment. This is like way too much fun and
way too dangerous. I would not recommend anybody do this. I'd love to shoot. Yeah, me too.
So uh, yeah, you guys are going to want to, you guys are going to want to check that out.
I'll post the link one more time. If you're not subscribed to channel super fun, Holy
crap. Get subscribed you guys and share it. We can't figure out why more people aren't
watching these videos. Don't understand. I don't get it. All right, so thanks guys. We'll
see you again next week. Same bat time, same bat channel. Bye. There's a channel that has
like 25,000 subscribers that did a medieval weapons fighting. I found it on youtube somehow.
Are we doing an after party? I was kind of just going to go home. Okay. I'm going to
go home and do my after party. Okay. Good night guys. Bye.