keeping the Twitch chat primed.
It is WAN show time and we have a great show
for you guys today.
Did you roast me at all?
Cause that's usually what I do with you when you're late.
No, I'm a nice person.
Actually, instead I was talking about how exciting it is
that this is the last WAN show
that will be exclusive to Twitch TV.
I saw that coming.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I don't know if you saw,
but we streamed on the YouTube channel today.
I did.
We had 25,000 concurrence.
I was there when you hit it.
Watching me talk about IOMMU groups and virtualization.
Imagine if we were doing something that people cared about.
Imagine.
Yeah.
It was my imagination phase.
Well, one of the big things,
one of the like huge problems,
and I can't say necessarily like what we talked about,
but when I was down at Twitch a while ago,
we talked about like a side discussion of discoverability
and searchability and stuff on Twitch is horrible.
Yep.
Finding what you want on Twitch is actually terrible.
In the last four years,
in the last four years,
Linus Media Group has like tripled
in terms of its YouTube viewership.
Oh yeah.
In terms of just every aspect of the business
pretty much has probably tripled in the last four years,
except Twitch viewership,
which is half of what it was then.
Yeah.
And it's like either,
and remember too,
I'm talking WAN show archive as well.
Yeah.
And like when he's talking about how it's gone,
like almost in the same magnitude opposite direction,
when we were hosting the WAN show,
when we first got in this building
and it was in what we called the library,
we were consistently hitting 10K.
Yeah.
So either it's us,
which it doesn't seem to be
because literally every other platform streaming or VOD
is going in the complete opposite direction.
Yeah.
Or it's something about Twitch and the type of content.
I mean,
we used to be the only non-gaming content on the site,
which might've made us stand out more.
Like there weren't any podcasts.
And they used to like that we were on there.
They used to care.
Because we were pretty much the only version of that.
So they would promote us.
And on Twitch to be relevant,
you basically have to be streaming a lot every day.
Because the discoverability is terrible,
but there was something else too.
Now I know it's not ready yet.
Don't freak out.
But because we're gonna be simulcast streaming,
we might as well stream on FlowPlane.
And wait, hold on.
I have a cool idea.
I have no issue with that.
I'm gonna have to check with my FP peeps in the chat here.
Okay.
But what if we absolutely cranked,
like went absolutely bat crap crazy on the bit rate.
I think Linus Muir Group's gonna have to pony up for that.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Is that what you think?
No, cause we're helping you beta test.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's right.
Hold on a second.
Even if our real time trans code isn't working yet,
because we'll be simultaneously streaming,
FlowPlane pilots.
So I was thinking the chat that we focus on
is the FlowPlane chat.
So if people want to chat on WAN Show,
basically you can think of it kind of like Twitch Prime,
except you just actually pay Linus Media Group
instead of paying Twitch a bunch of money.
Also FlowPlane Media is gonna take some of it too,
but that's fine.
They're cool guys.
I'm expecting AJ yell at me pretty soon.
We'll see how that goes.
But get this.
If people can't handle like a 30 megabit stream,
like something absolutely nuts, like we go crazy on it.
If they can't handle it,
they just watch the video on Twitch or YouTube, whatever.
And they just use their FlowPlane chat.
Then they still get the benefit
of the FlowPlane membership.
Pause it on FlowPlane.
And we can experiment with different kinds
of streaming qualities and stuff like that.
I don't know.
I've done a bunch of streams on FlowPlane.
The quality and the delay and everything is all really good.
So like, I'm sure it would.
4K stream.
I haven't done that.
I have not.
I have not done that.
Okay.
So one thing to bring up here,
a little interesting to bring it up live on the thing,
but we haven't done it yet.
So it's fine.
We haven't had our FlowPlane lunch this week actually,
or last week.
Oh, not even that.
Yeah, I know, I know.
So like we've got lots of,
we got lots of update
because I got something really good for you
as soon as you're done.
Okay.
So go ahead.
You go first.
This isn't actually about FlowPlane.
This is, well, sort of.
If you wanted to,
if you wanted to stream on FlowPlane or YouTube,
if you wanted to stream on either of those right now,
I think you would be breaking the contract with Twitch
because you have a sub button.
Yeah, I know they can kick us out.
So you have to, yeah.
I would just be aware of that.
That's all.
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
I think we get like a couple hundred dollars a month
or something like that.
Yeah, it's not gonna matter.
It's not gonna make or break.
Heart, our Twitch subscribers, of course,
but compared to if you support us on FlowPlane,
it's really not that helpful.
Literally Linus Media Group will make more money
out of that.
And then FlowPlane Media gets supported too,
which is great.
Yeah, Ben Luke might be able to afford a razor.
Yeah.
Okay, get this.
So, you know how FlowPlane needs like
baller network connections and stuff
for some of the things it does?
Yeah.
I might be able to give FlowPlane access to,
you know, Vanix?
Vancouver Internet Exchange?
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
So, Linus Media Group might be upgrading its connection.
What?
To a dedicated wavelength.
Whoa.
Direct to Vanix.
What?
How did you even wrangle that?
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
What?
Okay, wouldn't that mean that you basically
have to be your own?
So we're working with,
it's a small time, our ISP,
although they've grown a lot
since we first started working with them.
So it's through them.
They're pretty cool guys.
Oh, cause I was like, you'd have to be your own ISP.
I've got the CTO's phone number, cell phone number.
Like he replies to my emails at like two in the morning.
He's a super cool guy.
Oh, he's great, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Freaking awesome.
So I'm not gonna like,
yeah, I'm not gonna say too much,
but like our ISP, dope guys, local guys,
I tell, you've probably never heard of them,
but they're cool guys.
And anyway, so it's gonna be
a dedicated 10 gigabit per second wavelength,
straight to Vanix, no switches.
And then we're actually,
I couldn't afford the entire 10 gigabit per second
of like internet access.
So it's gonna be 5.5, slummin' it, 5.5 gig.
Okay, what's the,
I don't wanna know the exact dollar value,
but what's the like differential?
I'll tell you, I'll tell you after, hold on.
But what's cool is that we're going to have,
because they're bros,
and because it doesn't cost them more
because they're already in Vanix,
anyone else in Vanix, we're gonna have 10 gig too.
So it's 5 gig, 5.5 off Vanix,
but then it's 10 gig to AWS, Google, Akamai,
like basically 10 gig to anyone that matters.
Probably OVH.
Probably, you can go check.
It's got a list of everyone that's on there.
So anyway, you guys could definitely have some Rackspace,
and I'm sure we could find a way
to make that extra five gigabit or whatever
somewhat beneficial.
OVH is on Vanix.
So we could-
That's pretty great.
So we could try and offset your extra streaming cost
or whatever, try and help a brother out there.
Yeah, so anyway, so that's my cool news.
Okay, so it's costing 30% more
than our one gig switched fiber connection.
Which was already really expensive,
but now the new price, that doesn't actually sound that bad.
It's not that bad.
Plus over the three years, we owe them one video,
which is fine because like, who cares?
Sounds like they're probably gonna end up getting one anyway.
And honestly, they would have probably gotten,
hopefully they're not watching.
They probably would have gotten one anyway,
because the whole bonded internet thing that we did
that was like a commercial product that they had before,
they acquired the company that did the software
for the bonding, rewrote it, so it's multi-threaded now.
So you don't need such an expensive appliance to do it.
And they wanna, oh, I wonder if this is confidential.
Well, whatever, they're gonna have better products
and services.
Oh crap, I hope I just didn't get in a lot of trouble.
Well, whatever, they're cool guys.
Why don't we just say that and with cool stuff?
So we probably would have made a video anyway.
We got a lot of great topics for you guys today.
So RTX, everybody talked about it.
We haven't yet really.
Ninth gen Intel chips.
Yeah, this is cool.
Steam compatibility tools.
So you can play more games on Linux.
And 10 series GTX cards are on sale.
Also this intro, you can watch it now.
You know, how much would people pay to see that?
Like minus versus Austin cage fight.
Oh my God, dude, and like works out a lot.
Oh, I mean, I'm so interested right now.
The difference that Austin's such a nice person.
I don't, I don't think he'd want to do it.
He's actually just so nice.
He's like a really good guy.
I don't know.
I'm so interested though,
because he's ridiculously fit and works out all the time.
He's super fit, but I don't,
I don't think he's like actually trained for fighting
though.
Yeah, but, and you are,
it would be a pretty distinct advantage would like,
I actually, at our weight class,
I really don't think him being more fit is going to be very
helpful.
But it's an interesting, thank you.
It's still an interesting comparison.
If you know what I mean, I guess a benchmark.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pretty much just to be clear guys,
not Linus and Austin are not boxing that, that will,
that is not a thing we're doing.
Although if he was down, I like, not like,
not like fucking MMA.
No, we don't swear on the white shirt.
Not like MMA, like fricking bare knuckle or anything like
that. But like, but the box box, it could be interesting,
especially because I've never boxed before.
Okay.
So, but like I know how to know pretty much most of the
basics. I know how to punch. I know how to dodge.
I know how to block.
Like I could probably put two and two together,
especially against another amateur, but tell you what,
tell you what, if Austin's down, I'll box Austin.
There you go.
Oh my God, I can't even believe that just happened.
So for the context that people are wondering Logan,
Paul and KSI are fighting tomorrow, I think,
I think it's tomorrow.
Is that real?
What?
Really? That's like a thing?
Yeah. Oh, it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
I've been training for a while.
Some, some external dude did a video on how hard they're
punching.
So I watched that because it wouldn't give either of them
views.
And I'll tell you this.
KSI has way better form and clearly knows what he's doing a
lot better than Logan, but then Logan is a mountain.
So we'll see.
Logan has much longer reach.
Is this actually like a pay-per-view thing or is this just
like you on YouTube?
Yeah. Yeah.
It's kind of interesting though.
People are going to hate watching it.
People are going to watch the crap out of that.
So that they see each of them or one of them individually
get hit in the face.
That's like, absolutely.
That is the entire show.
See, that's what I think.
I think your, if, oh my goodness.
I don't think that's going to be a thing.
But if you and Austin are a thing.
No, that's not going to be a thing.
I don't think that should happen.
There's no way.
And I'm, I am joking.
But it does, it wouldn't have the allure of the like,
the hate fight.
No, it would be a friendly.
Yeah.
It would be clearly a friendly bout.
And I can't think, I'm sure there's some,
but I can't think of anyone who actively wants to see you
guys hit in the face.
I don't think I could punch Austin.
He's too nice.
Like really, I would not want to.
You know, I've actually, I've actually,
I shouldn't say never.
It's complicated, but I don't really,
I don't really count the only time that I've ever fought
with someone.
I've never really been in a fight.
No?
No.
I'm, I'm a, I'm a pretty, I'm a pretty passive,
like turn the other cheek kind of person in general.
Most real ones don't last very long.
Right.
When you don't have gloves and like a helmet thingy.
I guess that's true.
They like really, someone gets hit a couple of times
and they're like, wow, this isn't nice.
They usually want to stop.
You know, it's really crazy.
The guy, so we have a video coming soon.
Once again, I hope I'm not revealing too much.
Wow, my hair is just like spectacularly bad.
Good.
No, good.
You know what?
We're just, we're going to embrace it.
I'm just going to have like gamer hair today.
So we have a sponsored video coming up on Deepspar.
Have you ever heard of Deepspar?
Yeah, but I don't know a ton about it, but I've heard of it.
So Deepspar is a data recovery company that is not like
you send your hard drive there and they recover your data.
They actually build tools for data recovery companies.
Anyway, so they sponsored a video.
We're going to have that coming out pretty soon.
It's on float plane already.
And the guy, the son of the CEO
who also acts as like kind of an operations manager,
like he's an executive there.
We're going to lunch and I'm like,
so like what are your hobbies?
And he's like, oh, like bare knuckle MMA fighting.
And I'm like, really?
And he's like, oh yeah, love it.
And I'm like, so basically you're in fight club.
And he's like, pretty much.
And he starts to like pull back some of his clothes
and he starts showing me like some of the bruises
that are on him, like right now.
Meanwhile, the guy is like dressed in business casual
because he's like at work.
And I'm just, I'm looking at this going like,
I don't think I'm going to put a toe out of line.
And I think we better deliver a really good video
for these guys.
He's like explaining to me how he has no feeling
left in his shins.
Yeah, well that's a goal, you want that.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, yeah, like here, here.
Like I don't even feel anything.
He starts like hitting it.
I'm like, stop, it's fine.
I believe you.
Well, he did that on purpose to get to that point, right?
Microfractures and stuff.
Kind of ridiculous.
Yeah, so that's a thing.
That's not me.
I don't have that killer instinct, unfortunately.
My left hip.
Your left hip?
Yeah, same situation.
Really?
Yeah, because in football and rugby,
basically my right side was always my more accurate
and stronger side.
So whenever I would hit people, I would lead on left.
So every single time I would hit someone,
I would throw a little bit more to my left.
Wasn't really supposed to, but my whole idea was like,
if it gets a little hurt, I can stay in
because everything that matters is on my right side.
So yeah, my left hip is like mostly numb.
I don't really feel anything there.
It's just a random, yeah.
So if I ever actually did have to fight you
for some reason, go for the right.
Probably, yeah.
Generally with like everything.
My right side is just generally less durable.
And then die.
So when someone laughed rugby in Canada,
yeah, it was definitely the worst team I was on.
I'll give you that much.
We were not good.
I don't necessarily particularly remember ever winning,
but we might've.
There was a pretty good rugby program
at my high school actually.
My high school, no.
It was the only thing we had.
There was some, yeah.
Okay, so I have heard of schools that are like that.
Yeah.
And there was like one or two schools
that we went against that were pretty good,
but it was not super common.
Right.
My high school was definitely not good.
Cool. At all.
All right.
So why don't we jump right into Intel ninth gen chips
on pre-order, for pre-order on a Dutch site.
So this was originally posted by tweakers.net.
It was posted, original articles from tweakers.net
and it was posted by Robbie on the forum.
And if the rumors are going the way they have been so far,
it will be set on stage that they're not true.
And then immediately after they said that,
they'll be 100% accurate.
Yeah, exactly.
Also, there's not a whole lot of useful information here.
I mean, the top chip, the 9900K is listed at 833 euros.
I really don't think that's very likely.
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a slight price hike
over the 8700K, but I don't see it going to-
Even if it is in that euro range,
the products are usually more expensive in euros anyways.
The more interesting part of the rumors
is that it seems to be a confirmation
that we're going to see Intel's Core i3, i5, i7 thing
is about to get even more confusing
because we're gonna have a Core i7
that doesn't have hyper-threading.
Oh boy.
Yeah, so it looks like three models, 9600K.
So that's a six core, six thread.
We're gonna have a 9700K, that's a Core i7.
So that's eight cores, eight threads.
And then we're gonna have a Core i,
oh no, it will be an i9.
Oh my goodness, okay.
And then we're gonna have a Core i9
on the mainstream platform that is eight core, 16 threads.
What are they doing?
Why are they making this confusing?
Did I miss something?
What's up with the plus too?
So plus means with Optane support.
I've actually been meaning to do a video about that.
Like WTF is Core i7 plus.
Basically, it's a Core i7
and also you put Optane in your computer.
Okay.
Yeah, no, that's like, that's.
That's silly.
I mean, I understand what they're doing
because you can't really differentiate
on CPU performance anymore.
So you might as well differentiate
on the overall benefits of your platform.
What's the, I don't know why I'm drawing a blank on this
because I think it's super cool
and talking about it relatively often,
but the like GPU compute thing
that people use for video encoding or the CPU compute.
Yeah, quick sync that if it was plus
and that meant quick sync.
Yeah, it would honestly make more sense to me.
Yeah, but then that would be bad for them.
Yeah, because then you have Core i9 plus
on the mainstream platform and no Core i9 plus
on the other one.
Speaking of Intel and their GPUs,
we actually screwed something up
when we did our Larrabee video.
Actually, no, I'm not gonna move on to that yet
because I wanted to talk about Core i3 versus i5 versus i7.
Are we just skipping RTX?
This Intel, well, people keep complaining
that we haven't talked about it.
So naturally my initial reaction to that
is to troll them by purposely avoiding it.
Yeah, yeah.
This is why Intel,
you shouldn't make this branding any more confusing.
9.5.
This is the second most watched video
that Linus Media Group has ever made.
What the heck is Core i3, i5 or i7?
At 9.5 million views.
Melting screen prank isn't there.
I just wanna know.
I checked the other day.
You're not there.
It's close.
Melting screen prank is number three, I think.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
Why does it keep going up?
It's still doing really well.
I think every time I check it,
it's up like a million views.
Core i and Core i9 isn't generating any less confusion
because that was four years ago
with nine and a half million views.
And this is a year ago with 2 million views.
And remember that Core i9
is such a one percenter product anyway,
that literally all of them watched it.
Not even just that,
a huge amount of people watched it
because they were like, what?
Should I care?
I bet as many people watch this video
as have bought Core i9's total ever.
That's pretty funny.
And that's a problem.
When you have to do that much education
with your consumers.
Sorry, what was I gonna talk about before?
I don't remember.
It seemed important.
We're dodging RTX.
It seemed important.
No, there was another thing that I was...
Oh, we were talking about how
some of them don't have hyper-threading
when it seems like they should.
Oh yeah, right.
The plus thing is super weird.
So we're gonna have to make another video about it.
Yeah, plus thing is dumb.
Oh, you were gonna make a video about the plus.
Oh yeah, that's basically it.
We just wanted to do a video kind of like sharding on it
because we think it's pretty dumb.
Yeah.
Like we don't think Optane is dumb.
I actually, we've done sponsored stuff for Optane.
This isn't it.
Optane tech is cool.
Yeah.
Definitely cool.
Oh wow, you know what just occurred to me?
With that pipe in here,
we could also experiment with server configs
that we can't necessarily buy
or rent at existing data centers.
Like we could build something totally custom,
throw it in and see what happens.
What do you mean?
Like if we wanted to experiment
with something like Optane caching.
Oh, for flow plane.
Yeah, definitely.
That would be cool.
Yeah.
Okay, anyway, sorry.
I just think AJs would geek the freaking hell out over that.
I think so too.
Cause I've actually got a project upcoming,
six workstations, one CPU.
I was streaming about that today.
Yeah.
And I might be able to get a hookup
on some Optane drives for that.
And then once that's done, I could rip them out.
We could throw them in a server and just see what happens.
Would you want to make LTT videos about that?
Yeah, I think so.
Potentially, sure.
Seems interesting.
Yeah, I don't see why not.
I would be interested.
And like, I don't necessarily care
if people know what like...
What our experimental server in the LMG office is.
Whatever.
I don't think it matters.
Oh no, you can see the videos you're paying to see.
Good heavens.
Yeah.
All right, what else we got today?
Well, actually this is a really big topic.
So why don't we do the Nvidia thing first, I guess.
Sure.
So this was posted by Ratton Man on the forum.
We will finally acknowledge it.
The original source is, I don't know, everywhere.
Everyone's talking about it.
GeForce RTX.
Yeah.
Nvidia has new cards.
They're sold out everywhere.
The brand...
Did you know that?
They're legit sold out everywhere.
Really?
You can't buy them anymore.
They're all out.
A bunch of people were like, oh, oh,
like you can solve the availability problems
by like cranking the price.
Nvidia, you thought about that, ha ha ha.
And then boom, sold out almost immediately.
There's people like angry that they can't buy them.
Like it's...
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they don't even know what the performance is yet.
No one seems to care.
It's a great world, isn't it?
Really?
There's like, there's less performance metrics
than there was on the Pascal launch.
There's basically none.
Even the Pascal launch,
like they had more direct performance metrics.
They were like, it compares this weird abstracted number
better in this game, but like SMP based.
And that was the weirdness.
With every generation, Nvidia's hubris grows.
But the thing about hubris is that it's supposed to like
cause some kind of downfall.
And I don't foresee that as long as people keep giving them
money for stuff that's completely sight unseen.
Out of nowhere.
And like, I think, I think the prediction from last win,
even if it doesn't end up being completely true,
is going to be more true than is kind of comfortable
because I really don't think there's going to be
a huge performance increase.
I think it's a feature thing.
Yeah, that's what it looks like to me too.
Because ray tracing does seem super cool.
It's going to be faster.
GDDR6 is faster.
And I'm sure they haven't been completely sitting on ass
for the last two years.
So obviously it's going to be a bit faster.
But I don't think the FPS increases are the story here,
is the story here.
Here's the thing that makes me uncomfortable.
A lot of the ray tracing demos that we've seen so far
running at like 45 frames per second for one of them.
And I'm kind of looking at it going, ah.
30 to 45, to be clear too.
45 was on the high end for Tomb Raider.
When was the last time you felt like lighting
was the issue for in-game realism?
Okay, so I will answer this in two different ways.
One is more direct to the question.
And one of them is a little bit more abstracted.
Sure.
Basically never for the first one.
But really, really, really good applications of lighting
have definitely helped with realism.
And there is examples of like, holy cow,
with the right lighting that really helps
get you out of the valley.
The uncanny valley thing is what I'm talking about.
I can understand the benefits to it.
But it is extremely a like,
if we're talking about gaming,
it's extremely a single player focused thing.
Because if you're playing anything multiplayer,
you're going to want to turn that the heck off.
Yeah.
Because for me, like, I have always been far more,
I've always found poor facial animations,
or low resolution textures.
Or just poorly done graphics in general.
Or just lazy or sloppy set deck
is what we call it in production.
I don't know what they call it in gaming.
But just like the clutter in a room when you walk into it.
Like seeing that same clock model reused a lot.
Like that kind of stuff is far more jarring to me
than the bounces of the light rays
as they move around a scene.
Someone in chat said, LOL lighting ray tracing
isn't just about, well, it's X 47.
I'll give you a call out.
Isn't just about lighting for games.
The most important thing will be reflections
that can show objects that are behind a perspective camera.
Wow, that's niche.
He didn't have the, wow, that's niche part.
I threw that in there as a little flavor text.
Also reflections or lighting.
Yeah.
Right there, bud.
Okay, I think the tech is actually really cool.
And I was talking to, I had a buddy over here
who I told you about him.
I met him in Sweden.
He gave me the tour of the particle accelerator labs
and the laser labs and stuff.
He's really excited about it
from like scientific applications.
Because those cores are gonna be super helpful.
And like he's stoked.
Also, they might actually be willing
to do videos at that place now.
That would be amazing.
Okay, we'll take that offline.
Yeah, and it's still very unsure and stuff,
but I'll get you more info later.
But like he's really stoked and that's really cool.
And that lines up with the story that NVIDIA
has been giving us for quite a few years now.
Which is where like AI stuff is important.
Science is important.
We're doing the deep learning stuff.
We're doing blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
They've been tripping for this for a very long time.
I wish I owned NVIDIA stock.
Yeah, it may, yeah, exactly.
It makes sense in their path that they've been taking.
It's all very logical.
The fact that the performance jump
probably isn't gonna be that huge,
but they have this really cool ray tracing stuff
and they have the new cores and all that kind of stuff.
That's all very cool.
Basically NVIDIA has gone from making gaming GPUs
that they adapt to workstations and professional uses
to making professional GPUs
and then trickling the features down to gaming somehow.
And I think that is reflected in the fact that
the 1080 TI is basically a Titan,
which has been more or less accepted by most people.
Yes.
So anyway, the prices that these cards have sold out at
is- Did I say 1080 TI?
Yeah, 2080. I meant 2080.
Yeah, so the Founders Edition 2080 TI is 1200 US.
The Founders Edition 2080 is 800 US
and the Founders Edition 2070 is 600.
So the best news, I think, coming out of all of this,
given that any time, like I've, ugh.
So here's the other problem.
When NVIDIA launched the 1080,
it was all about this voxel-based illumination and stuff.
Like- SMP.
That was all they wanted to talk about.
Are there any games that used it?
SMP?
Simultaneous multi-projection.
That was actually the biggest thing that they were pushing.
Was that the big thing?
Yes.
It was simultaneous multi-projection.
And games used that, but it was VR.
The voxel thing, yeah.
Voxel global illumination.
I'm pretty sure it was SMP. VXGI.
That's what they called it.
Yeah, voxel global illumination, VXGI.
The XGI game.
So there's a Epic Games demo from 2015.
Unreal Engine 4.19, NVIDIA VXGI, Flowblast.
So here's my problem.
Anytime we get a fundamental shift
in the way that games are rendered,
the first-generation card that supports it,
by the time any games launch,
any demanding AAA-grade games launch that use it,
is not gonna perform well enough
for the way it's meant to be played experience.
That's my problem.
Every time we get a card that is sold based on a feature,
whether that feature is tessellation,
or whether it's DirectX 12, or whether it's VXGI,
you go back again and again and again and again.
And there's a selling feature,
and then that's when you have hardware,
so game developers can actually start working
on the bloody thing.
And then there's the next card, or the one after that,
that actually does it well enough
that you can get a great gaming experience with it.
That's my concern about ray tracing with these new cards,
is that, yes, they will support it,
but when we actually get games that do a fantastic job,
once the game developers fully understand this technology
and know how to use it,
it's probably not gonna be able to keep up.
But I could be wrong.
And I mean, frankly, for me,
if we don't see any improvement
in anything other than lighting,
if ray tracing is the only thing
that the game engine makers work on
over the next couple of years,
and they find a way to make me totally wrong,
because the games will basically run
the same way that they run now,
except we'll be fully utilizing
this ray tracing additional hardware, then great.
But I don't know.
I don't know if I've yet seen something
that has broken that pattern.
Can you think of anything?
Yeah, well, okay, again, it's...
First card that supported PhysX.
By the time anything really implemented PhysX properly,
did it run well? No.
I do fully believe the bigger push
for Pascal was SMP.
And looking up SMP game is gonna be confusing,
because SMP is like a VR thing.
And it's like a suite of things as well,
and you can use it in different ways.
So there's games that weren't really VR based
that used parts of it to do things.
But really, there wasn't a ton of titles
that utilize SMP.
Right.
As far as I know.
Okay.
You're thinking short term.
That is exactly what we're doing.
That is exactly what we're doing.
You are correct. When you spend your money,
you're actually buying a thing to actually use.
Especially when you're buying emerging technologies.
Yeah, and here's the thing,
is that it's kind of funny,
because it's one of those situations
where the more affluent you are,
almost the more likely you are,
when the next one comes out that can actually run it well,
the more likely you are to just be able to buy that too.
So if you can afford a 2080 Ti now,
then you could probably afford to just run your 1080 Ti
that you probably have until a 3080 Ti comes out
that'll actually run,
like by the time some games come out
that can actually utilize it,
you could probably just buy that.
That's my point.
It's almost like the more money you have,
the less it makes sense to waste it.
Whereas if you were someone who had to scrimp and save
in order to get a 2080 Ti,
well then you're probably getting a big upgrade
because you're probably running something
that's a lot slower.
So you're probably also getting additional performance.
You're on like six or 700 series.
I guess that's kind of the point.
Like if you're someone who upgrades
every three or four years,
by all means, go out and buy a 2000 series.
Have fun,
because you're going to be getting a great upgrade
across the board.
It's just until I see it,
I'm going to have a hard time believing
that based on this feature,
this upgrade makes a ton of sense
for someone that has a modern card.
Unless again.
I've been wrong before.
But we don't have performance benchmarks yet.
I don't have a card.
Yeah.
So I'm just talking out of my butt.
Yeah, who knows?
The fact that everyone pre-ordered this already
is freaking insane.
Yeah, and every generation of cards,
Nvidia just kind of takes even more control
over the messaging.
Like they've announced the cards,
they've put them on sale,
and we still,
the independent media knows absolutely nothing
other than what we've had leaked by Nvidia's partners,
or what they said on a stage.
Yeah.
Dang.
Yeah.
And like obviously,
and I'm sure some people are thinking this,
no one's really said it,
but I'm sure some people are thinking this,
there is benefit to us to say,
wait for performance benchmarks.
Yeah, sure.
Sure, of course there is.
Yeah, but there's also a huge benefit to you.
Yeah.
So like,
just throwing that out there.
We're both benefiting here.
This is great for both of us.
No, no, fake news.
Fake news media.
And not even just us.
You should like watch our video when it comes out,
check out our performance benchmarks,
and then look at like a lot of other people's as well.
Yeah.
Yeah, go check out,
go check out Shroud,
go check out Anontac,
I'm sure Ryan will do some stuff.
Like by all means,
like it's not just about us.
I like doing a little mix of like the video people
and the written people, it's good.
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I have never tried their hot sauce.
Holy crap.
This is a Reaper hot sauce.
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How many Reapers would it take to make a jar of,
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How terrifying is that?
Yeah, that's pretty terrifying.
Are you gonna do it?
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It also sounds like Carolina Reapers
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It also sounds savage.
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Ah!
Why would you move right then?
There's hot sauce all over my laptop.
Whoops.
Oh man.
That's a lot.
I'm going to die.
Well, hold on.
How much do you have?
Oh!
I wasn't looking.
I'm pretty sure that's more what happened.
I don't know.
No, no.
I was looking when I was pouring the other one.
Where's the lid?
Did that get on you?
Yeah.
It's all over my pants.
Ooh.
Hot pants.
That's spicy.
I'm wearing hot pants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, what just happened?
Oh, did someone just turn off all the filming lights?
That's only one of them.
Thank you.
I think they're working on it.
Okay.
Okay.
Who has more?
Do we have the same amount?
It's pretty similar.
I might have slightly less, but my finger's bigger.
Okay.
You've got some wrapped around.
Be aware of that.
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I think we're good, Ed.
Okay.
I actually really don't want to do this.
Me neither.
Okay.
Oh, I can already feel it.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
Oh, I can already feel it, oh god.
Oh, wow.
Oh.
Oh.
Ed, could I get a paper towel?
I spill hot sauce on my laptop.
I need something to wipe it off with
If you want a huge variety of great turkey, I'm crying so much right now
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My eyes are fine
I'll try to prove that. Oh, no, I got them tears. Yeah, right a little bit. Yeah, but I uh, so my
My chest has already not felt very good today. I'm man enough to cry
Oh
Maybe this will clear me up, you know
Well, once you get like if I wasn't just drinking it
Like I I actually I love hot sauce on my like marinara pasta, yeah
Yeah, like putting that in like a pasta or something. That's it's really nice. The flavors are really good
It's got some lime to it like yes
That is actually a really delicious hot sauce. Got a nice acidity. I wouldn't recommend just drinking it. Yeah
Nice. Okay. Well, there you go. I'm actually I'm gonna take that home. One thing I noticed about that was the immediacy of it
Some of them there's like a bit of a delay that hits you right away
Oh
Straight to the vein. All right. All right. Anyway
Do we have any more like tech news topics? We wanted to talk about here? Okay
Wow. Oh, yeah
Steam compatibility tool. Yeah. Oh, do you want to do the Kalashnikov electric car first? That's amazing
But we want to do that. No, let's do it first. Let's do it first. Okay, so
Kalashnikov
Yes
That Kalashnikov. I always thought it was Kalashnikov, but it's like it's not it's like clearly not spelled that way. So did I?
It actually looks really cool actually looks really cool like that really like this kind of like like
Hipster II like like modern but with classic inspiration
Like I'm not really a car guy like it's clearly old school
But then the rims and the lights and the grill like that would turn my head. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's great
For sure, it's not style most cool modern cars. Yeah, it's hard to see them ever being classic
Yep, whereas this has a really iconic looking design. It's really different really different from anything else
so Russian weapons manufacturer Kalashnikov best known for making the
Ak-47 has unveiled a fleet of electric and hybrid cars buggies and motorcycles. These guys went all out
I guess them falling weapons
Rifle sales in the u.s. Might be prompting this, you know about that, right? No, I didn't. Yeah, so it's interesting
for the gun companies
Democratic
Leadership has actually been better for their sales
Because people run out. Oh that makes them buy a bunch of guns Wow
Just in case so they'll get grandfathered in in case a bunch of anti gun protection. Yep
Anyway, so this includes an electric vehicle that the company claims will rival Tesla
Well when Tesla makes all their stuff open source, it kind of makes it's a concept car dubbed the cv-1 and bears a close resemblance
to the Soviet era
Trabant see I'm not actually like I'm not a car guy. So I'm not that
Let's have a let's have a look at that. I don't know how to pronounce it, but I've seen it before for sure
Watch the mini documentary on it. Okay. Yeah, it does kind of there's clearly a lot of different towers
Wait, what hold on a second. Is this the car that
What is this from? I thought he drove a British car. No, it can't be
There's no way he's driving like a Soviet car. That can't be right. Anyway
It just it looks like the parking lot of the faulty towers hotel from the show
It's not is it anyway, whatever so that's the cards based on looks really cool
Let's have a look here. So the cv-1 is based on the Trabant was a way East German car
Okay, East German car. Okay starch plastic. There you go
So it's based on the retro eyes at h
22
21 to 52 and that's known as the combi and it's a testbed for Kalashnikov's electric drivetrain
So the company said they developed it in-house. It's got a cruising range of 350 clicks 0 to 100 kilometers
so 0 to 60 for our American friends in roughly 6 seconds and
90 kilowatt hours
Our battery capacity of 90 kilowatts per hour. I think that means 90 kilowatt hours. I think that's just a typo in our notes. Yeah
Would you buy a Kalashnikov car?
Okay, so with what I know about their most famous rifle not necessarily their other productions
But yeah famous rifle. Yeah
Because the idea is that it just always works. So it does that I don't know if that
goes into their other forms of engineering in a lot of ways electric vehicles are less complex than an internal combustion engine even though
They're actually it's funny. I was about to say they're newer tech. They're not
Electric cars actually came first if you go back far enough, but the the modern electric cars are definitely newer tech
Then the very refined internal combustion engines that we have today, but in a lot of ways they're a lot simpler
So it shouldn't be that big of a surprise that we're seeing like almost an like an land grab like gold rush style
I
Don't know what would you call it like a Renaissance like a yeah
Well, like you're seeing a lot of brands pop out of the woodwork with electric cars electric motorcycles
Just complete nobodies mostly most of the traditional car companies are stepping in as well
But there is a lot of random new companies stepping up and making electric cars. Yeah, I
Mean even that bike that I want to go down in test drive, which I will be doing. I
Have a trip to San Fran confirmed. So I'll be doing that. Did I talk about that?
I'm why don't you last Igor kozi rev says?
Bsbs fully spelt out you naive Canadians don't understand anything in Russia is
Proposed for corruption not for making final product
It sounds a little aggressive
so
Nothing in Russia will be produced. I'm also starting to question his username
Because he's like it sounds like he's trashing Russia, but he's something he has a super Russian username
So he might actually be like playing that angle says you won't get one. Yeah
I don't actually expect Kalashnikov to necessarily make a push into the US. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that no one will ever own one
We'll see if they make them
Uh, all right. This is huge news this week. This was posted by Pip Nino on the forum and it is the steam
Compatibility tool. So the original article here is actually steam the steam community
Boop steam for Linux introducing a new version of steam play
So it looks like they have not given up on gaming for Linux
Even though steam OS kind of died on the vine
Or they've released a beta is probably fine of a new and improved version of steam play to all Linux users
It includes a modified distribution of wine called proton. So wine is wine is not an emulator
It's way to play Windows games on Steam called proton to provide compatibility with Windows game titles
Here are some of the improvements it brings to the table
Windows games with no Linux version
Currently available can now be installed and run directly from the Linux team client complete with native Steamworks and open VR support Wow
direct x11 and 12 implementations are now based on Vulcan resulting in improved game compatibility and reduced performance impact
Full screen support has been improved full screen full screen games will be seamlessly stretched to the desired display
Without interfering with the native monitor resolution or requiring the use of a virtual desktop improved game controller support
They will automatically recognize all controllers supported by steam
That's very cool and expect more out-of-the-box controller compatibility than even the original version of the game
The performance from multi-threaded games has been greatly improved compared to vanilla wine Wow
So the initial set of supported games with the beta release is the second one is the most important
Beat Saber bejeweled to deluxe doki-doki literature Club doom doom to hell on earth doom VFR fallout shelter fate Final Fantasy 6
Really? Oh, wow. I am gonna go get that and play it on Linux just for walls
Geometry dash Google Earth VR into the breach magic the gathering a bunch of other magic the gathering mountain blade mountain blade with
fire and sword near
payday quake stalker shadow Chernobyl Star Wars battlefront 2 Tekken 7 the last remnant tropical for ultimate doom Warhammer 4000 dawn of war dark
Crusade some other Warhammer thing and
users are also able to try playing non whitelisted games using an override switch in the steam client and apparently a ton of stuff is
Working going forward users can vote on their favorite games to be considered for steam play using platform wish listing and presumably they will like
work on that
Wow, very cool. Very very very cool proton contains a custom version of wine as well as additional libraries developed alongside
It is fully open source and available right now on github
This could change everything
Especially if they keep progressing especially if they like actually stick with it mind you valve has shown considerable resilience when it comes to
decoupling themselves from Microsoft and Windows even if the particular projects that they've worked on have not necessarily
Developed much like I don't think they've done anything with
Steam link since the original one. Yeah
Not that I'm aware of anyway, but I think like when you look at steam link steam controller and
The Steam OS steam box kind of deal that situation. None of that really was enough to pull people away. Yes
So maybe this will be I definitely know some people I I don't know anyone who's going to switch to Linux because of this
But I definitely know some people that were already using Linux and already trying to game on Linux that are super excited because of it
If that makes sense
What's going on? This was an actual topic in the doc. Yeah, I had no idea. This was a topic
Yeah, who should Linus fight on pay? I thought we were just like
dicking around no
The biggest event in internet history, I have focus pads. This becomes a thing we can train
I know I know like the basics of box and training now
I'm not fighting Austin. That's no no, I don't think you should fight awesome. But if you do fight someone, I
Just think awesome is too nice
You don't think I'm too nice. Wow
Wow
Wow, dick. You don't think I'm too nice to punch someone. Have you ever seen me look like I was close to punching someone?
No
But I think you could actually yes, I think I have when on the couch at my parents house
What happened there scrapyard Wars season 4
What happened in what was season 4 remember? Okay, the power went out that day
We had to move the entire operation for the end of season 4 scrapyard Wars
Yeah, my parents house because they still had power. Yeah
and then we had to film scrapyard Wars and a channel superfund there and
Because of we had a room arrangement planned here and because we couldn't do it here
We had to sit in the family room of my parents house
well, everyone else was in the garage and they had to film it on their cell phones and hangouts to us and
Basically, everyone was like doing oh, I was mad, but I couldn't have punched anyone. No, no, but I think you could have punched someone
I could have punched something but not someone I was mad enough to punch something
But I you definitely wouldn't have hit anyone that was there. No, no, no. No, those are my friends
I would I would never punch a friend like that couldn't be a thing
It's also like illegal, but I don't think enough to just you know random people. Yeah
But if you're in like a ring and it's measured, I think you can hit some all
Right. Well on that note my battery is dead on my laptop. So the land shows over. Thanks for watching guys
See you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad to channel says I imagine Linus and Austin fighting like mandark and Dexter
They like kind of slap each other with their gloved hands
Dexter's lab where they like kind of slap each other with their gloved hands