No.
Well, we're live now.
So if you want to ask me if we're talking about it,
then I guess we're pretty much talking about it.
No, we're not.
No, we're not.
Oh, what, what, what is it?
Well, I can't.
What? No, you can't.
We're live now.
You can't tease me like that.
You can't be like, hey, are we going to talk about?
And then just.
They're here, it's embarrassing.
Oh, like that?
Yeah.
I actually have no idea what you're talking about.
We're going to have a great show this week.
Yeah.
It might not be the WAN show,
but like somewhere, someone will have a great show.
I'm looking at the show on my laptop
and it looks so oversaturated.
The problem is that we're using a gaming monitor.
Oh, that's our issue.
That's where we're running into trouble here.
So we've been, so first of all,
first of all,
our camera people came in and cranked a black magic cinema
camera to 1600 ISO.
So it basically properly lit room.
My shirt just looked like it looked like a bunch of like
little bugs crawling around on my shirt because of all the
noise.
So much noise.
And then we tried to fix it ourselves,
which resulted in the visual feast in front of you today.
It's very saturated feast.
So that's, that's where we're at on this.
All right. What do we, what do we got for topics?
Is there anything worth listening to or should people just
tune out now?
No, they should definitely stay tuned.
There's there's a couple of things that I think will be
relatively interesting.
The first topic I don't think is that interesting.
There's a, there's an LG giveaway that we can talk about.
Yeah.
You can get some LG stuff.
That's cool.
You can get a whole gaming slash workstation machine.
Should we just do that now?
Sure.
Okay.
So last chance to enter the hive mind PC giveaway sponsored
by LG.
The winner gets a PC with an estimated value of about $2,000,
depending on which parts the audience chose as a whole.
Oh, so it's like a voting thing.
Okay.
You also get an LG 38 WK 95 C monitor.
So it's a 38 inch 38 40 by 1600 ultra wide.
So we're looking for ideas on how to spice up the build and
the stream.
So I will be streaming the build of it live.
That's fun.
And then one lucky winner will get exactly that machine.
So it's worldwide with no age restriction.
How the heck are they doing that?
That doesn't, that doesn't sound like something that big
companies with legal departments normally do.
So here's a link in the Twitch chat to where you guys can go
check out the gleam IO information about it.
Including Quebec, I guess, which never happens.
Entries close at midnight Pacific tonight, June 29th.
So don't miss it.
What else we got?
G-Sync HDR modules at $500 to the monitor price.
G-Sync is expensive.
This and more breaking news.
I think we already knew G-Sync normal modules were 300 bucks.
So the fact that the price went up should not be super
surprising.
Great news, great news.
YouTube experiments with custom thumbnails just coming in,
saving the day.
Thank you again, YouTube.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, YouTube.
That was great.
I actually had a call with YouTube today and like out of
respect for my partner manager,
I won't discuss any of the like specifics of my call
because I am very appreciative that YouTube talks to me
because they are not always that communicative.
You'd be surprised that that's a relatively new thing.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's amazeballs.
But I will say that the tone of the call on my side was very
grateful.
I'm grateful to YouTube and our Google overlords for making
our job at float play media easier.
So much easier.
There's also rumors.
Cause you all know, I love rumors of an I nine 9,900 K.
I almost wish they went just for full, full, full gold.
And when I nine 9,999 K.
Well, it'll be over 9,000.
That's fair.
Nvidia's new NDA requirement to get access to early hardware.
Is this a giant scandal or is it a mountain being made out
of a molehill?
Not even a molehill.
More on this at 11.
It's like one speck of dirt.
No, no. At 11.
Okay.
Nope. That's it.
I'm rolling the intro.
11.
Did you see this?
I haven't actually.
It's actually like exactly what I wanted to make.
Remember I was telling you.
Oh really?
It's literally it.
Okay. Well, we'll have to check that out then.
How do I get into the dashboard?
I use Twitch so little.
And their settings menus are garbage.
I love you Twitch, but your settings menus are.
I just want to chat.
Oh, right.
Oh, I forgot to.
Whoops.
So Luke doesn't technically work here,
but you're going to be at LTX, right?
Yeah.
Luke will be at LTX because Luke also technically does
do things here sometimes.
So you have a video coming soon.
I do like actually soon now.
And not just like me hosting a video
and like pulling Luke into it for like color commentary.
Like Lucas is hosting the Nintendo Labo video.
The latest possible.
No one cares anymore about it,
but these are the reasons why people should have cared.
Nintendo Labo video.
That's quite a sales pitch.
All right.
So basically the whole internet is wrong about Labo
and Nintendo.
Now you're getting back into the clickbait spirit.
I need to add it in you.
Yeah.
So let's jump into our first topic.
This was posted by Wanatology.
The study of people named Wan, I guess.
Wanatology over on the forum.
The original article here is from Tech Power Up.
Nvidia's G-Sync HDR module is,
this was just working.
You saw me test this.
I actually didn't, but I believe you.
No, I, no.
You've got it on Luke's.
I know, but that's the one that was.
There we go.
All right.
Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
Yes, yes.
Oh no, nevermind.
Okay, you're right.
Thanks, bye.
Like half of my calls to tech support ever.
Really?
It's happened.
Maybe not half.
I don't call tech support that much.
That's fair.
But if we're going back to like
when I would call tech support as a teenager,
if we're talking about ever,
I have definitely made my fair share of,
have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
I must've told you my EVGA call story, right?
Okay, you know what?
We're gonna get back to this G-Sync HDR module.
Have I told you that one before
with the mineral computer?
I'm not actually sure.
I don't think so.
We'll get through part way.
And I'm sure there's people here that haven't heard it.
You'll probably remember,
because I must've told you at some point.
The only time I've ever contacted customer support
from any computer hardware company ever
was EVGA and one time.
I've never had to outside of that.
Everything's always worked.
Or it's been like clearly my fault
because my hand was covered in oil
and I dropped a hard drive.
That is not max store.
That was the brand of the hard drive's fault
because it hit the ground.
It's my fault.
Anyway.
Took it and threw it on the, yeah, okay.
Pretty much.
You know where that's going.
I was, everyone knows about my mineral computer.
If you don't, there's videos of it on the channel.
You should check it out.
It's actually a really funny video in the end, but yeah.
When I was building it,
I'm like 12 hours into this build
and it's taken me forever.
It's the first time I've ever built a mineral computer.
I'm doing a lot of things for the first time.
It's actually only,
it's probably like the low double digits
of times I've built a computer at all at this point.
And I'm trying to build a mineral oil one.
I go through a lot of hardships,
including realizing that due to the fish rocks
that I put in the bottom of the fish tank,
my power supply would no longer fit
because I did all the sizing
based on no fish rocks being there.
And it was like really hard to clear a spot for it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So I unscrewed the casing on the power supply,
figured out that it was like a wrapped setup.
So it was screwed on one side,
but it wasn't like two completely separate metal panels.
So I had to like tear off the metal that was there.
And I ended up only having like little like wire cutters.
So I was able to just get a tiny little snippet
and then I had to literally rip the metal in half.
I think you might be the king of wrong tool for the job.
Anyways, I got it.
That's why there's like a jagged edge
on one part of that power supply.
Luke needs a condom,
which goes to the dollar store, finds a balloon.
And it's like, oh, this end looks big enough.
Surely the other one will stretch.
Oh my God.
But I get the power supply ripped and it fits now.
And that power supply still works.
Actually, I've used it recently, which is hilarious.
It's actually pretty old.
I'm really surprised it still works.
Yeah, everything fits.
I get all the oil in and I've turned it on.
I did the old thing.
You turn the computer on before you put it in the case.
Which is good.
Yeah, I did that and it worked fine.
Then I submerged it, pressed the power button.
Nothing happened.
And I just freaked out cause I'm a kid.
I don't have enough money to buy these components again.
No one's going to give me a return on oil soaked components.
They sure won't.
It's not going to happen.
So I'm like...
You should try that sometime, sorry, carry on.
I have no idea what's going on.
I'm freaking out.
It's really early in the morning for whatever...
I have an EVGA motherboard.
For whatever reason, I was like,
I'm going to call EVGA tech support.
I don't know why I picked that component.
Yeah, cause it could have been anything that was...
I have no idea.
I just was like, I need to call someone.
And the dude on the phone was like really calm
and really patient.
I felt like I was calling 911.
Hello computer enthusiast, please state your emergency.
And I start trying to explain what's going on.
And like, he finally eventually...
I don't know if he's heard of mineral cooling before
at this point or not, but he's like, you know what?
What I'm going to do,
I'm going to add a note to your account saying that like,
if we get any components in that have a little oil on it,
it's okay.
That was nuts.
He did that.
He actually did that.
And then he's like, okay,
I want you to go through like taking it out
and like reseating some of the components for me.
And he stayed on the freaking line the whole time.
And I put them on speaker
and I reseated a whole bunch of components
and I put everything back in and it turned on and worked.
That was like the greatest customer support call
I've ever had in my entire life.
And it was basically,
did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
Yeah.
That was where we were going with this.
Thank you.
That only took about 10 minutes.
Yeah, but anyway, that was just amazing.
That's, I almost never have customer support calls,
but that was really fantastic.
No one's come close since then.
All right.
So let's jump over to this G-Sync news.
Basically PCper disassembled their ROG Swift PG27UQ
because those guys have balls of steel.
It's a $2,000 monitor.
And they found that the G-Sync module is a newer version
than the first generation G-Sync monitors,
which I think we've known for like two years
that new G-Sync, like faster G-Sync
was gonna require a new module.
Anyway, the exact model of FPGA is an area, area?
Anyway, a 10 GX 480,
which is a high performance 20 nanometer SOC
that provides enough bandwidth and LVDS pins
in order to process this huge 4K 144 Hertz data stream.
It is sold in low quantities for $2,000
for the FPGA alone at DigiKey and Mouser.
But assuming that Nvidia buys thousands,
PCper is suggesting that the price of this chip alone
will add $500 to the monitor's BOM cost.
It is further increased by the three gigabytes
of DDR4 memory on the module
and the added licensing fees for G-Sync.
So if you were-
Even just the three gigs,
like that stuff's expensive right now.
That stuff's really expensive right now.
So here's the bizarre thing about G-Sync
is that from the consumer standpoint,
I know a lot of people feel very strongly
that Nvidia should just adopt adaptive sync or free sync
and just kind of get on board
with the rest of the industry.
I mean, they are now up against more than just AMD.
Like it used to be Nvidia versus AMD, G-Sync, free sync,
and AMD had a handful of partners
that were rushing free sync monitors to market.
But now Nvidia is up against a much larger tide
in the industry as a whole.
Samsung is going to be supporting free sync on upcoming TVs.
That to me is huge.
You combine that with the free sync support on the Xbox
and now it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
now hold on just a gosh darn minute.
Whether you have a PC or whether you have a console,
if you want a game on a monitor or on a TV,
if you want all of those things
and the ability to interconnect all of them,
free sync is the only solution on the market today.
It's probably gonna stay that way.
And a lot of people are assuming that the only reason
that Nvidia would not adopt the industry standard solution
is in order to make more money on their licensing.
But I'm kind of looking at this going like,
hold on a minute.
If there wasn't more to it than that,
why would Nvidia pay somewhere in the neighborhood
of $500 for these modules?
Why would they hurt the competitiveness of G-Sync monitors
available on the market if they didn't have to?
And then you go back again and you go now,
okay, well, hold on a second here.
G-Sync on notebooks doesn't have this FPGA.
So they found a way to do it
with the embedded DisplayPort connection,
but not with the standard, you know,
I think we haven't really done a guest in a long time.
I think this news merits asking Tom Peterson from Nvidia
to come on the show and explain why the actual ball sack,
they would spend all this money
and lock variable refresh rate down
to this proprietary solution
if there isn't a compelling, of their own products.
Because imagine, imagine that you're Nvidia
talking to LG or TCL or Samsung,
you're talking to a major like panel
and television manufacturer and you're going,
have I got a deal for you?
We're gonna have you take your existing scaler.
I know it's cheap, but you know,
you're gonna throw that away, okay?
You're gonna take our scaler,
which doesn't have all these fancy component inputs
that people might need for their legacy devices.
It doesn't take six HDMIs in.
It's pretty basic.
We want you to spend $500 on it.
Sound good?
Why would they do that if they don't have to?
And then why would they go and put a bunch of RAM on it
if they don't have to?
Is there, okay, so I've used FreeSync.
And aside from some of the limitations
of the early monitors,
where the FreeSync range was not very helpful,
like it didn't go down low enough,
I don't personally notice a huge difference.
Like, is this the kind of thing
where I have to pull out a Phantom camera
in order to see the difference
in the way the monitors are refreshing?
Is that something we should do?
We should talk to Tom though.
If that's something we should do, then sure.
But we could get what we should do from him.
Okay, all right, all right.
I think giving Tom a chance.
I'm gonna email him right now.
No, no, I'm emailing him right now.
Can you guys come on our show and explain G-Sync?
This is all in the subject line.
Got a lot of our viewers.
I mean, really, this is me asking.
You guys don't seem that concerned.
Got a lot of our viewers wondering
why it needs a $2,000 FPGA and three gigs of RAM.
He's legitimately doing this right now.
Linus, you know, let's throw, thanks.
Chad seems to be asking for it right now, to be honest.
Thanks, Linus.
Okay. Thanks, Linus, so formal.
Yeah, you know what?
I'll throw in the thanks every once in a while.
I'll throw in the thanks.
It was still basically a one-liner,
but it's got a thanks, you know.
I respect Tom a lot, by the way.
Tom's super cool.
So is the other person included in the email.
Yeah, yeah.
So if anyone can explain this to me,
I think our PR contact gets upset when I go straight to Tom
because Tom is not technically PR or marketing or anything.
He's not technically like an outward facing position.
He's really good at it.
Yeah, he's like awesome.
So it's, you know, I really wanna talk to Tom about it
because he can put something like we are spending $500
for LOLs into a perspective that might make sense.
Because if there's anything I know about Nvidia,
it's that they don't spend money unnecessarily.
All right, let's jump into our next topic here.
This was posted by Rubber Puppy on the forum.
And I'd like to open this with a statement
from the current COO of Floatplane Media.
Does Floatplane Media now or intend in the future
to alter or disfigure in any way the thumbnail
that a creator would upload to the platform
for their viewers?
No, not only does that seem,
I'm trying to be PR happy right here.
Not only does that seem stupid, drop the PR happiness.
That's not PR.
That literally just sounds like unnecessary work
and we have a lot of other stuff to do.
So let's jump over to my screen here.
Not only do I not get the point,
but it sounds like a bunch of work.
Here's a post from Rao Alarcon Garcia.
Oh wow, I'm not even, you know, forget that I ever tried.
Hello team YouTube.
I would like to know why are not the thumbnails
of the videos on my channel?
What happens is that all my videos had thumbnails
and now they are no longer seen.
What a tremendous, tremendous concern to have.
This is good.
So to YouTube's credit, now going back to being appreciative
of YouTube for a minute here, to YouTube's credit,
they replied, thank you team YouTube.
That's actually surprising, good job.
I'm not a super huge fan of their reply.
We are running a small experiment where 0.3% of viewers
will see an auto-generated thumbnail
instead of your custom thumbnail.
Okay, we're not removing the ability
to create your custom thumbnail.
We're just not gonna show it to some people.
We're doing this to gain insight
on auto-generated thumbnails for the future.
Something to consider too is 0.3% sounds automatically like,
oh, absolutely tiny amount of people,
but it's freaking YouTube.
So 0.3% is actually, I have no idea,
but I'm assuming in the millions of people.
This is actually a lot of people.
It's not a lot in comparison to the entire whole of people
that use YouTube, but it's a lot of people.
There's someone with like a research degree
that's going after them super ham
for not doing this properly.
The comments on this Twitter thread are glorious.
I heard back from Nvidia already.
They're saying it doesn't cost $2,000.
So that's good.
We've confirmed now that they are indeed
getting a volume discount, which we assumed before.
But I don't have any information other than that.
Yeah, we knew that.
So I've replied saying, well, okay, yes,
but we still wanna know.
Just come talk to us about G-Sync, dude.
Yeah, they should be happy.
Anytime Tom gets in front of people,
they like love Nvidia more, so they shouldn't be afraid
to put Tom in front of anyone.
Just come flex your tech and that can be like part of it,
but we can talk about more things.
All right, so there's a couple of things here.
Number one, I personally am of the mind
that 0.3% is not that big of a deal.
Even in the context of a channel
that gets 2 million views a day,
which is where we're kind of sitting these days,
we're a little low right now, so hold on.
Per channel, yeah, but I mean users as a whole.
2 million times 0.0.
And that's not, I don't actually think views
is the right way to do it.
Okay, they could be whale users,
but if it's a random distribution.
Not even that because you're looking at people
who it's gonna come down to a choice decision
and with how YouTube's algorithm works right now,
if they don't click on your video, it might not come back.
So you could be getting cut 0.3% of your users
because now they're not clicking on it
because it looks weird.
So the impact could be hurt.
Okay, so that would be 60,000 views a day
could potentially hit us for assuming
that it's just a one-time thing,
which is honestly not the end of the world.
But 60,000 people a day that might not see your video
in sub boxes anymore.
I'm over it, but I have deeper concerns.
I have other concerns.
My other concerns are to do with why are they doing research
into auto-generated thumbnails
if there isn't some kind of purpose to the experiment.
And the only purpose that I can think of
to an experiment that goes,
hey, what would happen if we just used
auto-generated thumbnails instead of user-created thumbnails
is that they are considering using them.
Yeah.
That's the only reason to run this experiment
that makes sense to my non AI algorithmic brain.
And so-
Question for you,
I'm gonna almost flip sides a little bit here.
Yeah.
Would that be that bad?
Right now we have clickbait cancer all over thumbnails.
I'm leaving that up to the audience.
So I've actually brought up our dashboard here
and I'm gonna screen share with you guys.
Let's go ahead and pop up my screen here.
All right.
So this video right here went up today.
High school for gamers.
Actually, this is not our original thumbnail design for it.
It originally had me holding up
a legitimate esports textbook,
which was hilarious by the way.
Esports textbook, amazing.
So we've got a few different options here.
We've got to...
Actually, do you want a straw poll?
And we just need a couple options.
Do you prefer our custom one
or do you prefer one of the auto-generated thumbnails?
So this is high school for gamers.
We've got me standing holding a book in front of a plant.
We've got me standing in sort of a dark room.
It's hard to see my face.
And then we've got me standing outside of a building.
And then we've got sort of bigger me
with people gaming behind me.
Okay.
So there's example number one.
We're gonna do a few.
We're gonna do a few here.
Here, let's try this one.
This laptop does everything sort of.
We've got me holding up laptops.
We've got some people sitting around
eating what is presumably cake.
We've got some people sitting at a table
and we've got actually me holding laptops.
Okay.
All right.
But I'm not gonna lead you guys too much.
I want you guys to conclude for me.
So let's try to dual CPU sockets matter.
This video didn't perform very well.
So maybe we would have been better off.
You know, I actually don't mind this one.
Hmm.
Okay.
Well, I mean, this one sucks.
Do you think the top one that does suck?
That's like, yeah, that does suck.
Do you think the top one is the one
that it would pick though?
I don't know.
It might just be one of, it might be like random.
Okay.
Why do we need so many servers?
Okay.
This one, wow.
We would have thought it was a tech linked episode
with Riley with that one.
So that would have been terrible.
Yeah, that's not great.
This is just me in kind of a dark mess.
Hard to tell anything.
This is just me in the editing den.
It's hard to tell.
Like having a picture of the server
does seem pretty helpful for this one.
Is there any other examples you wanna see?
Is there anything?
Some people in chat are saying
that they pick the middle thumbnail
and other people are just keep on saying
that it picks the second one
or the second one is the best, blah, blah, blah.
Interesting.
Okay.
All right.
Why is everyone buying this monitor?
Okay, let's try this one.
Sorry, you guys.
I know this is taking a little while,
but this is live research.
Okay, so it managed to grab our end card.
So that's not helpful for sure.
It managed to grab me standing in the kitchen.
I am looking at a monitor though.
Again, the second one's okay though.
But the second one is okay.
It's me sitting there with a monitor in front of me.
Do you have those drop hole results?
Yeah.
Where will I?
How will I get them?
I'm spamming them in chat.
So if you just go to chat.
Okay, cool.
I'm gonna go check out chat.
I'm gonna go grab that and bring it up.
Bam.
Oh, I missed.
Oh, I clicked.
Dang it.
I found actually one of the better ways to do it
is to put your mouse where it will be
and then wait for chat to bump it and then click there.
I've actually found that that works.
Bad solutions for stupid problems.
Okay, so even though we did see some pretty good examples
in there of thumbnails that actually looked not bad,
80% of you are saying that you would prefer
the custom creator thumbnails, at least in our case.
And I know that there are some creators out there
that are not doing a good job.
Super abusing it.
Of in good faith, creating a thumbnail
that is representative of the content.
Yeah.
But still an 80 to 20% vote here
is a pretty overwhelming majority.
It looks pretty clear to me that you guys have spoken.
Someone in chat, 80% of chat has bad taste.
Well, moving on then.
Actually, we should get our sponsors out of the way.
Yeah.
I believe one of them is LTX 2018.
Oh boy.
LTX is the, oh, that's weird.
LTX is the interactive meetup and,
oops, meetup and interactive tech event.
It'll be on July 14th at the Richmond Olympic oval
here in Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.
Current booths include a blind cable management competition
brought to you by CableMod.
I wanna do that.
I will take you on.
I didn't know it was blind.
That's actually way more interesting.
A delitting workshop.
So bring your CPU's.
We will show you how to deal with them.
Case toss 2.0.
Now with more safety, multi-headed VR,
a LAN, 10K ultra wide gaming, which by the way is curved.
I thought it was 12K.
It was gonna be 12K,
but then we settled on 3440 by 1440 ultra wides
instead of the 4K ones.
And I will say that it is a better experience
doing it this way.
The extra pixels were not contributing much
and the extra size probably would have been unnecessary
because it already takes up a-
Ginormous.
Significant port.
Have you seen it?
No.
It's actually built.
Oh.
It will be there.
Like it's confirmed now before we were just kind of hoping.
Corsair, Asus, VertiGear, CableMod, BS mods,
FreeGeek, AlphaCool and iBuyPower will all be at the event
with a ton of more brands sending swag.
And to give you guys some idea of the swag,
Nvidia has sent six Titan Xs, six 1080 TIs
and a whole bunch of other stuff.
So we're actually thinking-
They won't sponsor us,
but they'll give us stuff to give away.
That's actually, that's pretty cool.
I mean-
They make LTX pretty sweet.
Yeah.
So far two years in a row.
So what we were thinking is instead of just doing
a bunch of draws on the stage,
cause that kind of took forever and was kind of tedious.
It did.
We're gonna make so many things there like competitions.
Cool.
And a combined cable management thing.
You might win a Titan.
So we wanna drive participation.
So come hang out, tickets start at $35 Canadian
and you can check them out at the link below
or ltxexpo.com.
There's also gonna be custom merch
that you can't get other places.
Oh, there's also gonna be custom merch apparently
that you won't be able to get other than at LTX.
I want some.
Wow, that's kind of a dick move.
So the customers that you actually can't get anywhere else
is LTX merch.
Oh, it's an LTX.
But also.
We have lanyards too, right?
Yeah, we have lanyards.
Cool.
And then there's also one design that our guy has created
that is going to be on sale later,
but you can't get it anywhere else.
And it's really cool.
And it's gonna be cheaper.
Oh, it's gonna be cheaper at LTX.
Okay, cool.
And like more color varieties and stuff.
All right.
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All right.
Getting back into the news.
We actually have a lot of topics.
Oh, what?
Oh no, I already did that.
We did it right at the beginning.
Yeah.
Bye.
Bye.
All right.
So we've got some rumors to talk about.
This was posted by numlock21 on the forum.
The original article is from WCCF tech.
And I won't say that I know anything about this
because I don't, which is great.
Cause it means that I can just talk about the rumors
that I've heard.
This is probably accurate.
Yeah.
There's a rumored core I9 coming to Z390.
It's rumored to be an eight core processor with 16 threads,
which is absolutely killer because for me-
It was a five by the way.
Eight core was really the threshold that I bumped into
when video encoding, mind you, this was a while ago.
It might've improved since then.
When video encoding with GPU assistance in Adobe premiere
and Adobe media encoder.
Okay.
So if I had a really high speed eight core
that also had an Intel integrated GPU,
so I could use quick sync.
Yeah.
That had the potential to be the best of all worlds.
So you're hoping that-
And six cores wasn't quite enough.
So I am really hoping that this will be,
apparently they're, oh, branding it core I9.
That's, wow. Why are they muddying the waters?
Why didn't they just make high end desktop core I9
and mainstream core I7 to I3?
Like, what are they doing?
I'm excited for mainstream to be eight core.
I think that'll be a really big deal.
Yeah.
Once mainstream has been eight core for like three years,
that'll be really good for software development
and game development and stuff.
That'd be very nice.
I just, my only thing with this is like, of course, I don't know.
Well, I don't know.
They could have stuck with six cores.
I mean, their six cores are actually reasonably competitive
even with Ryzen 2.
Oh, I don't necessarily mean about the 9900K to be fair.
Oh, I see what you mean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like Intel is making more processors.
Oh, I see what you mean.
The individual details, if they're true,
that is interesting, but it's a rumor.
So the rumor is that a core I7 9700K
would be six core 12 thread direct replacement
for the 8700K and the 9600K would be six core six threads.
So direct replacement for the 8600K.
What I would expect, and this won't be popular,
is that because they are creating a new model number
and they're giving it a core I9 designation,
I would expect this to be positioned
as a more expensive option.
What we've seen over the last four or five generations now
going from 2,600K to 3,770K to 4,770K to 4,790K
to 5,775C, that was short-lived,
to 6,700K to 7,700K is every generation
Intel has bumped the performance by five to 10%
and they've put a few bucks on the price.
How much do you think it will cost?
But basically not much more than adjusting for inflation.
I think this time we are going to see the top tier SKU
on the mainstream platform cost a significant amount more.
I wouldn't be surprised if instead of-
Even with Ryzen barking at their tails?
I think so.
I don't think that from Intel's perspective,
Ryzen challenges the mainstream K chips
because their positioning of these chips
is that they're for gamers.
Even an I9, because those are crazy expensive.
Yes and no, the cheapest I9s, core I9,
let's see, well, it would be what, like an it's, oh.
Is there a 78 something K?
Can't remember.
Oh man, this is a laptop chip.
Why do I even bother going to Intel's website
when there's Wikipedia?
Oh no, okay, yeah, you're right.
Core I9 start at $1,000.
That's like not really-
This one won't be like that though.
I think this one will be like $100 more.
Oh, okay.
Because that's a pretty big shift for them.
Yes.
It kind of actually makes sense, but it's a big shift.
Yeah, so I think this will be like $100 more.
And I think the justification will be
that this is the fastest gaming chip
and it's also a really versatile
sort of cheapo workstation chip.
Because you will get to use the cheaper consumer chip set,
which does save you some money.
Yeah.
All right, Nvidia's new NDA requirements
for early hardware.
This was supposed to buy Athens Immortal on the forum.
And the original article here was from Tech Power Up.
So basically I'm glad we used the Tech Power Up article.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they are pretty much, they went full editorial.
Yeah, we don't basically think
that that is that big of a deal.
It was so-
This whole situation is very awkward.
Yeah, so German techno application Heiss.de,
I don't know if I said that right, probably not.
They felt that this latest update suggested to them
that Nvidia was mandating positive reviews
in order to get access to hardware.
They weren't?
Tech Power Up disagrees, I disagree.
I actually hadn't gotten a copy
because our video contact sent it to Luke,
who sat on it for weeks instead of forwarding it to me.
Hey, okay.
I got a follow up a week after the deadline.
Hey Linus, is anyone from your organization
gonna sign this?
I never saw-
And then I got your forward
after I had sent the signed one back to him already.
If you notice from the forward,
it was not a reply to the original email.
I don't think I got the two week old email.
Okay.
And that email was like a day or two old at that point.
So anyway-
It wasn't that bad.
I read through it.
Actually, as far as NDAs go, it was pretty plain Jane.
It was like two pages,
didn't have anything terrifying in it.
Like there are some NDAs out there
that are scary.
Like we're working on getting
this really unique graphics card
that actually outputs over ethernet.
Ah, yeah, it's super cool.
Cool.
Their NDA?
Really cool.
Pfft.
Much bigger, much bigger, much bigger.
Nvidia's was actually for a company that size in particular.
Like we've worked with some big multinationals in the past,
especially on like sponsored projects.
And theirs has been terrifying.
You should explain why it's not that big of a deal.
Because a lot of people read it
and still thought it was really bad,
probably because they're just not used
to reading legalese or NDAs.
Well, it's because the wording that says
the recipient shall use confidential information
solely for the benefit of Nvidia
means that while the product is NDA'd,
you are not supposed to be,
say for example, taking this unreleased graphics card
and lending it to your buddy over at AMD
so that they can run benchmarks on it.
So that they'll know ahead of time
what the performance will be.
When the NDA lifts, when the NDA lifts,
the solely for the benefit of Nvidia thing also lifts.
And besides the interpretation
of solely for the benefit of Nvidia
could be very broadly interpreted.
Like you could say that constructive criticism
is for the benefit of Nvidia.
That would be a fairly easy legal defense.
Like it's not nearly as restrictive as it might be
made out to be.
And like we, you know, when Nvidia does something wrong,
like for example, their G-Force partner program.
And I don't feel like we pulled any punches on that.
Luke has made his feelings on G-Force experience
very abundantly clear over the years.
Which, okay, I actually,
I will take this opportunity to add for them.
They've done a huge improvement.
Oh, I never use it.
When you, no, no, no, I don't use it either.
But this is, that's the point I'm talking about.
You know how before if you did Express install,
it would just install.
I actually did notice that.
Yeah, that's actually super cool.
So it doesn't make you install it anymore.
Yeah, thank you.
That's actually awesome.
I've hammered on them so much about G-Force experience.
So I have to give them the positive kudos at the same time
about making it so that there's,
now when you go to the Express stall,
it's like Express with the G-Force experience
or Express without.
I did notice that.
That's an absolutely, totally acceptable,
good enough option.
We've got, how about Nvidia releasing 1030s
with DDR4 memory?
That's what you get for buying a 1030.
You don't buy low-end graphics cards.
We've made multiple videos with that.
Here, let's just low-end graphics cards.
Gamers Nexus made a recent one about it too.
All you have to do, all you have to do is Google it.
Let me Google that for you.
Technically YouTube is Google.
Low-end video cards rent.
Are they still terrible?
Spoiler, yes.
Low-end video card rent
and Radeon R7 240 unboxing and review.
Spoiler, yes.
Where's Gamers Nexus' video?
I think it's pretty new.
It's about the 1030 or whatever.
Dang it, Steve.
Can you get your freaking SEO?
Okay, there you go.
Gamers Nexus, disgrace of a graphics card.
GT 1030 TDR4 is probably,
that video is probably why that person
said that thing in Twitch chat.
That is my assumption.
Right.
But that's what you get for buying a 1030
instead of a last generation 900 series decent card.
As far as I know, 1030s are for like
the person that walks into Best Buy
and needs to plug in more monitors.
And doesn't know any better.
Because the cold hard truth,
and I've had people just completely not listen
so many times to mine and yours for that matter,
criticisms of low-end graphics cards saying,
well, some people just don't have that much money
to spend on a better one than buy used.
It's like the whole point of Scrapyard Wars.
A lot of people,
like we have had very good experiences with this.
If you bring your rig, we'll let you test it.
Just test it.
A lot of, honestly, a lot of the hardware community,
these dudes will even like let you into their house
to where their computer is to test it there.
I'm not being some kind of, you know, elitist,
you know, oh, well then you should just spend more
on your graphics card.
That's not the point.
The point is that brand new garbage is still garbage.
Whereas used diamonds are still diamonds.
This might be a little slightly scratched up or something.
I'm getting all mad.
And I shouldn't let myself get this stressed out about it.
It's just stupid.
Someone asked when is Scrapyard Wars coming?
Oh, two weeks.
To Floatplane.
To Floatplane.
So it'll be a week after that.
We had talked about Floatplane being more ready
for prime time by the time Scrapyard Wars comes.
Where are we at on that?
Can I do a big push?
Go sign up for Floatplane.
It's gonna be amazing.
Scrapyard Wars.
I'm hoping so.
Are you guys ready?
We have some cool things coming.
There's obviously been some minor shakeup
as you've heard of recently.
So we'll have to see how we react to that.
But there is some cool things coming.
Notifications are gonna be working soon.
Some parts of it are already working.
Oh, we're not like launching that part yet
until all of it's working.
Discord integrations and stuff are gonna be working soon.
There's some really cool things coming down the pipe.
Let's test if we can get it done fast enough.
All right, cool.
I'm excited.
You know what?
I should just do it.
We are gonna pimp.
Look at the look on his face.
So much concern.
It's frozen.
Did it freeze?
Why is it frozen?
There it goes.
Is the stream stopping?
We're back, baby.
All right.
Yeah.
Okay, no, I was just messing with you.
Kedski802.
I was like, oh god.
Dedicated video on the LTT channel.
20,000 new users overnight.
Are you ready?
No.
The original article here is from TechCrunch.
And this looks pretty cool.
VR gloves.
Okay, Luke, go.
Yes, okay.
I've wanted this so bad.
Linus has been playing this game.
What is the game?
Box VR.
Box VR.
I train boxing in real life two times a week.
And I have wanted to do this box VR thing.
But my biggest problem with it is that
I don't wanna hold the controllers.
Yep.
Because I think that would be really weird.
I've gotten very used to boxing with my boxing gloves on.
And I haven't had the time,
but I've been talking to him about
how I wanna get another pair of boxing gloves
and mod the Vive controller into the boxing glove.
And now these guys have more or less done it for me.
I'm sure I can take their design
and attach it to a boxing glove super easy.
Very cool.
So that's awesome.
So in a nutshell,
they're launching out of Y Combinator's
latest class of startups with ambitions
to bring a low cost flexible glove into users hands
or onto them as it were.
The Plexus glove relies on the existing tracking systems
of the HTC and Oculus headsets.
So the tracking sensors grab the position
of where the hands are in space
via the magnetically attached tracker.
Ooh, magnetic, that sounds bad.
Ah, yep.
I would just super glue it to the magnet, I think.
Yeah.
Or better glue.
After calibrating a resting state of the user's fingers,
individual sensors communicate their position
to the game engine.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Velcro straps secure the glove at your palm
and the individual finger controls
hook onto the end of your fingertips with motors
that offer tactile feedback.
See, this creates a problem for modding into a boxing glove,
but I'll probably just ignore that part.
And just having gloves on and not having to wear
or not having to hold the controllers will be good enough.
Plexus is shipping the gloves with toolkits for Unity
and Unreal game engines, developer kits are $249 per pair.
Ooh, ouch.
Shipping in August.
Ooh.
Yeah, that's not cheap.
This is something that I've wanted for a long time,
believe it or not.
I didn't know that I wanted it to be a battle royale.
And in fact, I probably didn't want it
to be a battle royale,
but something that I have wanted for a long time
is much, much greater scale multiplayer experiences.
Something that I had sort of envisioned
a number of years ago.
What's that?
What's that game called?
Is that Savage?
No.
So Savage was, let me make sure
this is even the right name.
Savage Game.
Savage Battle for New Earth.
Was this it?
I think this was it.
So did I ever tell you about those lands
I used to run at UVic?
Yeah.
With like the huge amounts of computers
across multiple computer labs on multiple floors,
all this kind of stuff?
We would play Savage,
because this game supported some crazy amount of players.
I don't remember the exact amount of players
that it supported,
but we could have labs versus labs going on.
Oh, the other one to 127 players on the team
are field players.
Yeah.
Okay, I actually didn't know this was an actual thing.
This is exactly what I wanted.
Yeah, so this is an old game,
but it's a very good like land pack.
You've got a huge amount of people for some reason.
You want to get everyone into the game.
And like, it was always really fun,
because if I remember correctly,
this was like Redstone.
Like Redstone was in this game.
So I had Redstone in my head,
I think it was called Redstone,
pre Minecraft.
And you'd have a whole lab.
You'd have like the leader of that team
or the leader of that lab go like,
we need Redstone.
And then the whole labs just like, Redstone.
You see everyone in the game just run over to go get it.
It's so much fun.
And you have to fight each other
and you like level up
and you spawn in as different things.
And it's like this whole combat RTS mix.
Like one person in each team is playing an RTS game.
All the other players are playing like the minions.
It's old, it's very old.
And it's fun.
So imagine that with like a thousand people.
Yeah, super cool.
So if anyone, I was really into Supreme Commander.
That's one of the games that I was most into
out of any game.
Like I think I was top 500 at one point,
which it wasn't a huge community,
but I was pretty good at it.
Imagine for a moment,
did you ever play Subcom?
I did a little bit.
Okay, so it has large vehicles.
Like I forget what they were called,
but they were like tier four vehicles
that were like these huge things
where you could potentially man something like that
with like 20 or 30 people.
So imagine a 1000 player version of something like Savage
with just like kind of,
and the way that Subcom had a lot
of really cheap swarmy type units.
So imagine a game like that with 500 V 500
with like all these different roles.
So you could potentially run around as a Marine
or you could be like a gunner
on like this big land crawler tank thing.
Or being a heli with three dudes.
And it would be cool if it was like local voice
and you like had to engage in local voice.
So if you're in that giant mammoth tank with 20 people,
you've got like the driver,
like telling what's coming up,
telling people to like reload different sides,
all this kind of stuff.
You actually have to use like your comm system
to talk to anyone that isn't nearby.
Like this sounds like a gaming experience
that would probably be too hardcore for the Fortnite kids.
Oh, I'd love it though.
But I think it's the kind of thing
that could be a completely different level of fun.
One thing I really, really enjoyed,
and I know you haven't played this game,
but it's called Black Wake.
And I was really hoping this was what
Microsoft's pirate game was gonna be like,
but it wasn't really.
But I don't even remember what Microsoft's pirate game
is called at this point.
But in Black Wake, you drop into a new game
and you're on a pirate ship, you're sailing in the ocean,
and you have to fight other people's pirate ships.
But your captain, like you're in first person view
and you really can't see all that much
if you're the one doing things on deck.
And you have to like get the gunpowder
and get the cannonball.
And you have to shove the gunpowder in the thing
and shove the cannonball in the thing
and then load the cannon
and then you can aim it and fire it.
So like you can't look where the boat's going.
So the captain has to sail the boat
and then like bark out like I'm lining up for this side,
like port side, port side.
And everyone's trying to reload the cannons on port side.
The captain has to yell out,
like there's a hole below deck.
So it has to run below deck and try to patch it
and bail the water out and all is-
So PlanetSide 2, free to play massively multiplayer
first person shooter that has the Guinness World Record
for the biggest first person shooter battle
with 1,158 players being recorded in a single battle.
I don't-
But this doesn't have the RTS element.
Yeah, I don't personally think it captures the same idea.
But it is, I've played a bit of PlanetSide 2.
It is sort of like that,
but yeah, I don't think it quite captures the same idea.
Right.
Part of the reason for me is I believe PlanetSide 2
is a persistent battle.
Like for Everze's, it's not a match.
Right.
I think you can win and lose areas.
It's an MMO.
Yeah, you can win and lose areas
and like there will be an individual battle
for an individual place.
And if one person wins or loses,
then it probably ends and whatnot,
but it's not the same type of thing.
All right, let's see what else we've got for topics here.
Oh, right, we didn't even talk about Mavericks.
So Mavericks promises, right,
posted by CrunchyDragon on the forum,
original article from pedestrian.tv.
Earlier this year, automation games revealed Mavericks
claiming its battle royale mode can support up to 400 players
crazier yet some game modes the studio says
will facilitate up to a thousand concurrent players.
Okay, a persistent environment means players
will leave tracks wherever they go
and you'll be able to drop in and out at any time.
The world will continue to exist and evolve
whether you're there or not.
Neat.
And it'll be able to host up to a thousand players
in any given server.
Google's game streaming service
may have a hardware component.
This was originally posted by Master Disaster on the forum.
The original article is from Kotaku.
So basically game developers conference in March,
Google representatives met with several big game companies
to gauge interest in its streaming platform
code named Yeti.
And this is yet another indication
that whether you like it or not, cloud gaming
is going to be a thing.
A lot of people were so mad when I did that video on,
what's Nvidia's called again?
I know what you mean, but yeah,
I don't remember off the top of my head.
Shield something, what's it called?
Grid.
No, no, it's not called grid anymore.
Nvidia, oh crap.
It's not called, no, cloud gaming.
I can't remember what it's called.
GeForce Now.
So a lot of people were mad.
They were like, they're going to have to pry my hardware
from my cold dead fingers and you might be right.
But what's going to happen is cloud gaming is going to happen
whether you like it or not.
And there's going to be much like, you know,
the Xbox has gaming experiences
that are simply not available on the PC.
There's going to be gaming experiences
that are available on cloud gaming
that will not be available to those of you
with graphics cards in your cold dead fingers.
And graphics cards in PCs
are also not going away anytime soon, just to be very clear.
But I can imagine a scenario
where if every player was running off
of the same data center effectively,
you could actually enable
massively multiplayer experiences more easily.
So the latency, instead of being
between the persistent environment
and every individual player,
because you'd have effectively like zero latency
within the data center would be between every player
and their own connection to the persistent world.
I actually foresee a way to create gaming experiences
that otherwise wouldn't be possible.
That's why it will exist.
And I hadn't actually thought of that
until I said it just now,
but there's nothing you can do.
This is happening.
And it also helps that massive companies like Google
are jumping into the fray.
It's not just gonna be Nvidia playing by themselves
with some smaller startups.
Yeah, I don't necessarily know if I like it or not,
but I do think it's gonna happen.
It might be, I feel like it would be cool
if there was like some games,
you know how like WOW has a subscription,
some MMOs have subscriptions.
If you're gonna pay for a subscription anyways, whatever.
If it's a game that makes sense
to have a subscription for, whatever.
But I see it coming to the point
where it's like downloading games
instead of buying physical copies,
where like people are like, oh yeah, it's just easier.
So I'm just gonna do it anyways.
And then it bites people in the butt later
when now they have download caps
and games are a hundred gigs and other things start happening.
Yeah, not to mention that multiplayer just goes away
once the game dev doesn't feel like it anymore.
Yeah, like that kind of stuff.
So Google took meetings at E3 in Los Angeles
a few weeks ago.
Apparently the company is looking
not just to woo game developers to the Yeti service,
but to buy development studios entirely.
Oh, that's interesting.
Oh boy.
Whispers have been quieter around Google's hardware,
whatever that might look like,
but the rumors suggest it will link up
with the streaming service in some way.
It's not clear if they wanna compete
with the technical specs of like a new gen PlayStation
or Xbox, or whether it'll be cheaper and low end
relying on the streaming servers to pull their weight.
Dun dun dun.
Google has apparently been on a massive hiring spree,
bringing experienced video game developers
and marketers from EA, PlayStation and other top companies.
Interesting.
This was posted by friendly non-murdering sort
on the forum.
Thank you for that.
This is super cool.
Android messages for web now available for everyone.
The original article is from google.com.
You can use your computer to chat with your friends
through messages for web,
which shows what's on your messages mobile app.
It's about time messages got some attention, hey?
Like it didn't even have cloud sync
until like it just started working for me very recently.
I was like, oh, holy crap.
My messages are still there when I switched phones.
How did this take so long?
And just so you guys know to get it yourself.
Oh, no, this isn't even the right link.
Where is it?
Messages for web sends SMS messages using a connection
from your computer to your phone.
So carrier fees will apply just like on the mobile app.
This is not like iMessage, okay?
It's not data-based still, but once,
oh, I keep forgetting what they're calling it.
Once the new chat, once chat rolls out,
I see no reason why it wouldn't be able to use data.
So if you go to messages.android.com,
it will give you the super,
super easy instructions on how to sync it.
You just click on the triple dot thing in messages.
It'll bring up a like a QR code reader, scan it, you're done.
And I've used it a fair amount already
because I've been coordinating a stag
and people that aren't on some other messaging system
to be able to write out a massive message with my keyboard
and then just copy paste,
plop, plop, plop, way easier.
You can pair it on multiple devices,
but only one will be active at a time.
Corsair is acquiring Elgato gaming.
This was posted by Kuiikulka on the forum.
I'm hoping that this situation is amazing
because I've had a super intense frustration with them
for a long time,
which is where they only support Windows 10
on their devices.
Right, so you want Corsair to go and invest heavier
into wider, I doubt it, but good luck.
What about new devices though?
Because of course, if they make like Stream Deck 2
or like some new capture card.
So my hope is actually less to do with capture
and more to do with taking Stream Deck technology
and putting it into keyboards.
So Corsair's gaming keyboards are already pretty cool,
but Elgato has clearly done a lot of work on,
remember the Art Lebedev Optimus keyboard
from back in the day.
If you guys don't know what that is, look it up.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
It's an individual display on every key.
It's like a $2,000 keyboard or something.
So I would love to see Corsair take that technology
and make it actually useful.
And Corsair is pretty good at that.
Make the keys more durable so that if you press on them,
they don't like ruin the screen below it
and stuff like that.
Stuff like that, yeah.
That'd be really cool.
Even if they just did it as like a G key area.
Yep, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't get your hopes up though.
I know what you want, I know why you want it.
But like Windows 7 is like, it's done, man.
It's done.
It's not even that.
It's done.
Windows 7 is what I have to use for my sword,
for my argument,
because that's where the majority of users are.
But someone found, I should have been able to find this,
but I didn't.
But someone found that there's the history log of versions.
And on one of the versions,
the only thing stopping at work on Windows 7, 8, and 8.1
is a flag that checks if you have the right operating system.
So someone made a wrapper that just ignores that flag
and you can just install it on whatever operating system
you want and it works completely fine.
It doesn't have like, if I remember correctly,
it doesn't have like Twitter video integration or something.
And I'm like, wow, I don't care.
So yeah, I'm just gonna do that
and it'll work on my computer as fine.
Last topic of the day,
you'll probably be excited or apprehensive.
This is off news.xbox.com
and it was posted by Master Disaster on the forum,
which is actually a great, great username.
Halo TV series, set to begin filming in 2019.
Is it live action?
Showtime president and CEO, David Nevins
has announced the network has ordered a 10 episode season
based on the Halo game franchise.
Kyle Killen, awake, will serve as executive producer,
writer, and showrunner.
Rupert Wyatt, Rise of the Planet of the Apes,
will direct multiple episodes
and also executive produced the hour long series,
which enters production in early 2019.
Okay, so it is not clear to me
if it is live action or animated.
It's possible that some people know that.
I think a massive, massive mistake
was making the Warcraft movie live action.
Did you ever see it?
Based on how terrible you told me it was, I didn't bother.
Okay, yeah.
But you played Warcraft, you saw the amazing cinematics.
I played Warcraft, like not too.
Yeah.
And not three.
Did you not play two and three?
I did play two and I did play three.
I just mean, I was just feeling kind of old
because you were like, you played Warcraft.
And I was like, yes.
Yeah, I did.
I played it too, to be fair.
I played it many, many, many years later
just to see what it was about.
It's not very good.
No, it's actually pretty rough.
Kind of bad.
Yeah, and the AI is like super, super brutal.
So bad.
But the cinematics in Warcraft
have always been amazing.
Yeah.
World of Warcraft cinematics, same idea.
Absolutely amazing cinematics.
And then we get the movie and it's live action.
Like they have, in my opinion,
possibly the best cinematics in gaming.
There's some argument there with Square Enix stuff.
Square Enix has some really amazing stuff too.
In my opinion, it's close or better.
But it's hard to make that argument
because you have to go back very far
and kind of compare era by era
because they've both done.
In my opinion, it's been them.
They've both done arguably a better job of cinematics
than games at multiple points in their histories.
Yeah, sometimes it's not even arguably.
It's just like clearly that's way better.
And so they're probably kind of depends
on which one going together the whole time.
Blizzard has been incredible at cinematics
and then they make a live action movie.
And I just, every single time that I see a Warcraft
or Starcraft or whatever,
Overwatch cinematic from Blizzard,
I'm like, holy crap, this is gold.
Everything about this is perfect.
And then you see live action.
It's just, what are you doing?
So I hope Halo is not live action.
There's nothing here about whether it's live action
or rendered on the xbox.com article anyway.
Maybe people are telling us in Twitch chat.
Yeah, I haven't seen any in Twitch chat.
All right.
So that's pretty much it.
Oh, Mickey555 says, I loved the movie
and that you are a hater.
Well, you probably just don't know things about Warcraft.
Wow.
And on that note, thank you for tuning into the WAN show.
We will see you again next week.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
Dang.
It's live action.
A whole bunch of people are saying it's live action.
It's live action, all right.
And no, I didn't find my cat.
Thank you for asking.
Oh, you are a straight up savage.
Someone else replied Warcraft made me
want to gouge my eyes out.
Wow.
That's a little aggressive.