Welcome to the WAN Show, you guys! We've got a great show in store for you today, I hope, and of course the main topic of conversation has got to be Galaxy Folds. They're breaking.
We wouldn't know, we don't have one, and the soonest I might be able to get my hands on a Galaxy Fold is probably the week after next.
But hey, for everyone who has a Samsung US PR contact, it doesn't seem like they're really getting a much better experience than I am anyway.
Anyway, we've got that, we've got Sony internally regulating the sexual content in their games.
And UK wants to ban the like button, which is great. Also facial recognition to become a standard in US airports.
Backup. Which is great. Oh yeah, absolutely. Well we're going to have a real conversation about that I think, won't we?
First, let's go ahead and roll the intro.
This light cracks his knuckles. Let's go!
I know it.
As if I would fight you. We all know how that works.
Actually, hold on a second. You might not be able to bring yourself to hit me.
No, probably not. I might win.
You know, actually I was thinking about this right before we actually started talking. You were thinking about fighting me.
I was thinking we haven't had a WAN show since the roast.
No, we haven't. The last time you and I were on the WAN show together was roast day.
Yeah, I hosted without you, then you hosted without me. Oh, that's hilarious. So that's not related. That's not related at all.
We actually had a blast at the roast.
Oh, did I even think about that?
We have not been like, not on speaking terms or anything like that. In fact, I'm going to pull him closer because we're not centered in the frame.
Anyway, we have a new year's resolution for WAN show. It's a new year somewhere.
We are going to try to do like a little bit of news before we get into just BSing, so I do want to talk about the roast.
But why don't we get straight into the Galaxy Fold screens breaking.
Thank you Blade of Grass for posting on the forum.
In summary, what's going on is, for those who have not seen it in the news, quite literally everywhere.
What's going on is Samsung is shipping their first ever device with a folding screen.
So it's the Galaxy Fold and review units went out probably, I guess, just under a week ago, which is kind of remarkable,
especially considering how many of the people who have review units have had them break or otherwise no longer work so far.
Kind of surprised I didn't catch this.
So there's a couple of controversies here.
One of them is that the Galaxy Fold has a screen protector on it that looks an awful lot like those things you're supposed to, you know, peel off.
But if you consult the manual, actually, it's specified that you are not supposed to remove it because it can make it more prone to failure.
Now, a couple of the people who have had their Galaxy Folds break, including Marquez, MKBHD, and Mark Gurman of Bloomberg,
did pull it off because they thought it was just a screen cover, not an integral part of the display.
And especially when you're reviewing these things all the time, it starts to become like, oh, you notice something on screen?
Oh, okay. Let me remove that. That's routine.
And I've seen some criticism, particularly aimed towards Marquez, over his assumption that he should just remove it.
But honestly, I felt like it was kind of unfair.
They were like, well, if you read the manual, then you would know not to remove it.
And to me...
If you read the EULA.
Yeah, exactly.
To me, if something is not seamless on the front of a display, like if it is not clearly fused to the front of the glass,
then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that someone might remove it.
There's been many years of habit forming telling you to do that.
Exactly.
And there's many phones that come with screen protectors that even are quite permanently applied,
like OnePlus ships a screen protector on their phones, but that are entirely optional.
So it's the kind of thing that knowing this, and surely Samsung must know this,
they would have thought to put a gigantic warning on it, like a separate, peelable one.
I actually damaged a phone screen once.
I forget what phone it was, but it had kind of an anti-glare coating on the front of it.
And you like scratched it off.
That went not quite to the edges.
Yeah.
I picked it a little bit and I went, oh crap, this isn't supposed to come off.
Yeah.
But not before I had damaged it.
That's quite a while ago, but that definitely used to be a problem.
Yeah.
And like most...
Even in the PC space, much more niche and you usually have more enthusiast style customers.
There's parts that you'll get that will have covers over things telling you make sure you do this thing,
like socket covers usually have information on the socket cover before you open it.
That's right.
Certain power supplies will have like a cover over the plug telling you to do something for it.
Yeah, exactly.
Or like if you buy an all-in, or excuse me, an all-in-one, a pre-built PC from someone like an iBUYPOWER,
typically they'll have a cover over the plug at the back that says,
yo, open up the case and take out the packing materials before you plug this thing in.
Like you can't assume that the user is going to read the manual, unfortunately,
especially for something that we all feel like we understand pretty well.
Yeah.
Like a cell phone.
Yeah.
Now, the thing is that even some of the phones that did not have their protective covers peeled off have also died.
So Dieter from The Verge got a bulge under the screen somehow and it eventually died.
And then Steve Kovac from CNBC, he has died, unknown cause of death.
Now, here's the thing that's really scary about this for me.
Samsung says they're still going to sell the Fold.
But what's crazy is like, yes, there's a lot of review units out there.
It wouldn't surprise me if Samsung has shipped somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 to 1,000 review units.
But what I also know, based on the fact that I don't have one, is that there's not that many out there.
And they also failed really fast.
So Samsung showed that they test the Galaxy Fold to be folded and unfolded.
I forget how many times. Is it 1,500 times or 15,000 times or something?
I can't remember what the number was.
It was more than 1,500.
I'm sorry.
It was obscenely high.
I'm sure chat is already...
A very high number that includes a 15.
There's problems with those tests, though, that are fairly well known, that it's extremely uniform how those things happen.
That is exactly the problem.
Yeah, you can try to add randomness to it, and there's better ones for different applications.
But those tests are definitely not perfect.
No, well, that's the problem.
Far from it.
They are perfect.
It's a machine.
Oh, yeah.
No, well, yeah.
Holding it evenly.
It's too perfect.
Perfectly closing it and unfolding it.
And then you've already got people doing first impressions videos talking about how satisfying the snap is.
I mean, think back to flip phones.
How did you flip open your phone?
Did you flip it open like this?
Or did you flip it open a little more something like this?
Yeah, I would try to shove my thumb in there if I could, but it was mostly a flick.
I mean, it was called a flip, not a pry carefully apart as far away from the hinge as possible, applying pressure evenly to both sides of the screen.
Yeah, yeah.
And you've got to assume that-
It's one of those you're holding it improperly problems.
In the world, real people are going to use it like real people 200,000 times apparently.
200,000-fold is what YouTube chat is saying.
Thank you guys very much.
Appreciate that.
But the thing is that 200,000 perfect folds, that does test maybe the resilience of the reinforcement they've done to the crease,
but that doesn't test the way it handles if someone just grabs the top of it and it puts uneven pressure on one side.
You can get way more- and think about it.
You went to school, right?
Learned about levers, right?
How much more force can you apply with a lever compared to just with your own bare hands directly on some object X?
A lot more.
And when you twist, you are effectively using the phone as a lever to break itself.
Lever?
What am I even talking about?
So, all right.
The review units did not have a warning on the box, cautioning users to leave it on.
Samsung does say future customers will be warned.
An issue I have is like in some of the pictures that I've seen, it looks- I haven't held one because we don't have one, so I don't know.
But it looks like it would be very likely, especially with a device that's going to even partially fold,
for someone to have an accident where that thing gets pushed or peeled or pried off unintentionally.
If it's that flimsy to the point where people were super easily just able to blip, it's going to be a huge problem.
Yeah, because there's going to be people that actually don't even read a warning that's right on the thing.
Like, you know that's going to-
Oh, yeah. That'll happen too.
So, if I had to guess, this is a $2,000 device.
Now, we know that the CPU doesn't cost $2,000.
It's the same as you'd get in a flagship Galaxy S series phone.
Like, there's nothing inherently special about this thing other than, well, the R&D, the tooling, and the screen.
And even the most expensive phone screens.
I remember being blown away when I was like, really?
It's like $23 to replace an iPhone screen?
Like, they're small.
They're actually materials to them.
Once you learn how to make them and once the yields are decent, they aren't actually that expensive.
Now, the yields probably suck on these, but that's a whole other conversation.
Is there battery on the other side and stuff?
I believe it's in two pieces.
Yeah, I'm assuming they fill it.
Like, there's probably a little bit more mass, but it's not going to total two grand.
Yeah, don't quote me on that.
The point is, yeah, it's not like it has a freaking Geiger counter and altimeter and a bunch of stuff crammed into it.
It's just got a bigger screen and it folds.
So if I had to guess, I would say it costs $2,000 because A, the yields are low on the screen.
B, the R&D was really high for something they don't think they're going to sell that many of.
Or maybe don't want to sell that many of.
So I think the $2,000 price is designed to prevent too many people from buying it, for one thing,
and to cover the costs of what they already know are going to be fairly frequent RMAs.
I think we somewhat said this when we first heard about this phone on WAN, and I think this is more reassurance of that idea.
What the price also does is it filters out the kinds of customers that are going to be able to afford it to be only the ones that could then also afford,
if it breaks three months out of warranty, a year and a half from now, to just get a new phone.
It's a $2,000 phone.
This is anyone who is a normal human being, who is outraged by this phone breaking.
I feel like you're sort of missing the forest for the trees here because it won't affect you.
You're not buying it. I wouldn't buy it.
Yeah.
Would you buy it?
No.
To me, honestly, once you get past the point of $400 to $600, you need to have a pretty compelling argument for why I should take this thing,
especially now that phones are such incremental year-by-year upgrades.
And buying a last-gen phone is actually such a good value proposition.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's a product that's designed for early adopters who don't care about money.
With that in mind, do I think that them breaking is a problem?
Actually, no.
Do you think that them breaking at this kind of a rate?
Let's say, hypothetically, I think actually 500 to 1,000 review units was probably aggressive.
Let's say there's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of like 200 out there right now.
Do you think 4 out of 200, remembering that that's only a 2% failure rate, do you think this is a nothing burger?
But they failed in a week.
Yeah, so I'm going to start this with a story.
I knew a guy at one point in time that you actually know, but I'm not going to name,
that I went to school with, and he was extraordinarily wealthy at the time.
And in the course of a few months, he broke, I think it was like three iPhones.
Just, I'm a little tipsy, coming back to dorms, drop iPhone, ha ha ha, get a new one, okay.
Didn't really bother him, so maybe not that big of an issue because they can just swap them out.
I don't know.
At a certain level, I don't know how much it actually matters.
But if we ignore that whole concept, I think it's a problem that they're going to wantonly fail within a week.
But like I don't think this is a game breaker for the people making that type of a decision,
for the reasons that I just stated.
Right.
If you're spending two grand on a phone that you know has a high probability of breaking,
and that you know doesn't really have probably a super major value proposition for you,
it's probably super experimental, it's probably not the biggest deal.
I do think it's a problem, but I don't think it's a...
I think they'll still sell the phones to the people that they wanted to sell the phones to, if that makes sense.
We've got people talking about that they think Huawei's Mate X is going to be a much better implementation.
And I'm going to kind of jump in and say, you know what, I doubt it.
I suspect that like so many things, this is just the race to be the first one,
and it's got that smell of first gen experiments, should have been a dev kit.
You know like the first generation Apple Watch, where the battery life was terrible,
it had all kinds of other issues.
Apple so quickly deprecated that thing, they didn't even...
They don't even acknowledge it by giving it like Apple Watch Gen 1 status, it's like Gen 0.
Like that is actually their own way of denoting that product.
These things happen, and I think that as consumers, if we're paying attention,
it should be pretty clear that they're happening, so they shouldn't really happen to us.
So yeah, I don't think the Mate X is going to be particularly better.
So now having experienced one folding phone at CES,
yeah, I've noticed we're having stream issues, I don't really know.
It's definitely not just vote playing.
Oh, interesting.
It's all platforms for sure.
Video output low, it's not receiving enough video to maintain smooth streaming,
as such all viewers will experience buffering.
What?
That's an interesting way of putting it.
Looks like output 7,500.
Yeah, I don't see any dropped frames or anything.
All right, we're going to have to power on here anyway.
Keep cruising on.
Yeah.
So yeah, having seen that one at CES, having seen at least secondhand,
what's going on with the Galaxy Fold?
It's just a super, super early product.
I think folding phones are going to be a super big deal, they're not right now.
Like you said, maybe should have been a dev kit kind of situation.
They maybe should have expressed the situation that it was in
before pushing it in the way that they did.
I don't think saying dev kit would have necessarily been the right way of going about it.
But broadcasting that you're on the bleeding edge could have been cool
and made up for any shortfalls that it has.
Oh, lordy.
A cool dude on YouTube has a suggestion for a video
that sounds like straight out of a MrBeast title.
You should buy one and count out loud while folding it as many times as you can before it breaks.
Oh, my god.
Okay, one, that does 100% sound like a MrBeast video.
Yeah, it really does.
Two, I'd probably click on that video, skip to the end, and then leave.
Yeah, he's probably working on it.
But every time he folds it, he gives someone $100 or something.
All right, let's move on to our next topic,
because honestly, I don't think I have a whole lot else to say about it.
Do you want to jump to this one? I think this one's more interesting.
Yeah, I think the Sony sexy content regulation is honestly kind of boring.
Yeah.
So this was originally posted on the forum by, never mind, no one.
No one.
So the original article is from techspot.com.
And basically what's going on, I think the Sony sexy content regulation is honestly kind of boring.
The UK wants to protect young people by banning the alike button from social media sites.
So it seems to have to do with, I don't know anything.
So you were in favor of this. Why don't you go ahead and defend yourself, sir?
To be clear, I was joking.
You were joking, were you?
I was joking, but I'm down to try. It's going to be difficult.
I don't necessarily think, oh man, so I have to try to fight for the other side.
Echo, echo, echo, kill this. You're broadcasting your audio.
Oops. Sorry.
Oh, I guess you stopped sharing.
Oh, Lou apparently did a thousand folds.
Oh.
Lightweight.
And it didn't break?
I think when we did our USB type C, I think we did 5,000 insertions.
Didn't something break by that point too?
Yes. Our micro B did.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
So you went until you had to stop.
And I actually didn't do all of them. I only did about 300 to 500 of them.
James did the rest.
Yeah, that was back during like his first couple of weeks.
He gets this assignment that's like unplug and replug.
And actually it was five, was it, I think it was 5,000. Yeah, you can have it Dennis.
I think it was 5,000 each on type C and micro B.
That was brutal. Poor James.
Anyways, so the UK, well, whoever's trying to push this in the UK,
their stance seems to be that there's the psychological effect of wanting to get more likes on social media
or something that I've never heard of because I don't use Snapchat, but streak?
Streak points?
Honestly, I have a Snapchat.
I feel so bad because we actually approached Snapchat,
like worked with them to take our handle back from someone who already had it
and then proceeded to literally not post once ever.
Well, you should have taken the handle though. So that makes sense.
But like, yeah, I felt a little bad.
Okay. What?
Yeah, I don't remember what the Snapchat thing is called,
but something on Snapchat that makes people want to use it more
and likes because of the influence that it can have over kids.
So the idea is that in the same way that achievements in video games are designed to-
But like do you ban those too? Like where does this stop?
Okay.
And when does Europe stop trying to police the whole internet?
Okay.
This is getting really annoying.
Brexit, the UK is not Europe.
They're not done yet.
Well, you know what?
Right now, they sort of are.
Sorry, anyway.
I think, I don't know.
In a nutshell, the argument is that much in the same way that an achievement in a game
hits the same centers of your brain that a drug hit will from an addiction,
be it like gambling or drugs,
in the same way that those same centers of your brain are activated by achievements in games
or getting positive feedback from likes.
And that definitely is a thing.
It's a thing.
Oh, yeah.
They're saying that because of that, it should be regulated and restricted from minors
in the same way that other addictive substances and activities are.
The problem is I'm not usually one to make the slippery slope argument.
Yeah.
I think over the years that we've hosted this show together,
you've probably heard me make that argument.
Very few times.
I can't even think of.
I don't know if ever.
I just don't want to necessarily say never because that's a hard.
Yeah, I don't.
Not often because.
Definitely not often.
If at all.
I usually understand, I usually can at least understand why we are taking this certain action as an exception,
even if I don't agree fundamentally with the direction.
I think sometimes the slippery slope argument is valid.
It can be.
But I think most of the time, by the time we're reaching the slippery slope argument,
we've actually gone too far.
You can't say, okay, the Chinese social merit, whatever it's called.
Yeah, I don't know what it's called, but yeah.
Yeah, that Chinese social citizenship score thing.
You can't be like, oh, well, if they start monitoring, if you jaywalk,
then it's a slippery slope before they're monitoring you chewing gum and you're in Singapore.
That's not a slippery slope.
Like 24-7 surveillance of your citizens is just, you're rolling off the, so it's shaped like this, okay?
It's not slippery anymore.
You got your ground.
It's falling.
You got your slope and then you got your kind of jump and then there's a cliff, okay?
We're here.
You're like in midair.
We're in free fall.
Like we haven't actually, no, no, we're like, we're going off the jump.
Like we haven't descended yet.
It feels like we're still going up.
Okay.
But there's nothing but open air below us.
The slope is in the rear view mirror.
I like that.
I like that.
So I'm usually loath to make that argument.
But in this case, as a parent, I do agree that there are activities that do need to be regulated when it comes to children.
They cannot control themselves when it comes to things like microtransactions, for example.
I think there should be regulation there.
But, like button?
Microtransaction feels like something where there should be parental controls or some type of thing to stop that from happening, whatever.
Something built in.
Like button feels like something where I need your input on this one.
Yeah.
But that feels like a parenting thing.
That feels like partially a parenting thing and also partially just a I'm sorry, that's the way the world works now thing.
Because social media, all it is, is amplifying the tendencies and the behaviors that we already have and that we already exhibit.
So if I were to do a cool kickflip on my skateboard at the skate park.
Right.
If I were to do that and, you know, the three guys that are sitting on the bench over there like, oh, that's alike.
That's cool.
It's exactly the same thing.
So when I post a video online of doing a cool kickflip and 30 or 300 or 3,000 or 30,000 or 300,000 people click that like button that just like.
And there's there's good influence there, because if you if you get 300,000 people liking your video of a kickflip, maybe you have a career in skateboarding.
That of you or that's that's how the modern Internet works like it.
So I guess what I'm just kind of trying to figure out is at what point do you cross the line from banning addictive behaviors to banning basic human interaction, but just it happens to be online.
And like this, this is being proposed and like, what defines a like, is it literally only thumbs up and things that say like, or is it upvotes?
Does that count?
That's sort of the same thing.
Do you ban all of Reddit?
Like, like that, that's that.
Well, would we be better off without Reddit?
Maybe.
Now that.
Hold on a second.
But OK, this this I'm wondering with with the continuation of like, oh, you can't share that different type of content.
I know I realize that's mostly a money making type of thing.
And now the banning of the like button and et cetera, et cetera.
And with the increased not necessarily tech literacy, but ability to use browsers and things getting much more simple overall, even the complicated stuff, I wonder 10, 15 years from now.
Yeah, dark Web stuff being more mainstream.
There's a lot of mainstream Web sites that are making dark Web mirrors of their Web sites.
So it's kind of weird, but it's going on.
Tell me more about this trend.
I confess, I have not heard.
Let me see one second.
Sure.
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Like in Vanna White?
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We just got our first advance shipment of them, so we shipped a few of them by air.
I'm trying to make it so people can see the printing.
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I'll show them in more detail after.
So we got our first advance shipment by air, so there's actually only a few units right
now, but there's another, I don't know how many.
It's, well, ugh, I don't even want to say it's lots because I think we're going to sell
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But we have more coming by boat, probably in the next two to four weeks, so if you don't
get one out of the ones that are in the warehouse now, there are more coming.
But after that, it's probably going to be a few months before we can restock them.
So they're like a matte black bottle, they've got like a glossy orange Linus Tech Tips at
the side, and then that's not even the coolest part, the entire rest of the bottle is actually
printed with, I believe it's a socket 478 motherboard, so it's like kind of a retro,
like a retro motherboard that we...
I just did a douchey thing.
Yeah, that we took the, like the schematic of, and then put on in like this kind of glossy
black.
It looks even sharper in person than it does on camera, but I'm just going to switch over
to my screen here.
So I've got a few better angles of it.
So that's kind of a, that's actually a pretty, that's a pretty good view of what it looks
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That's pretty good too.
Oh yeah, the top.
So the top is a screw cap that is attached like that.
One nice thing about it is, I know not necessarily all people are into this, but I like the wide
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just water, it says you can take hot drinks, right?
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You don't need to do stuff like teas or whatever else.
So stoked.
I have been so excited about these things and they are finally here and that water is
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That's wonderful.
So yeah, hopefully you guys are as stoked on them as I am.
It's lttstore.com and we actually have an offer for you guys.
Yeah.
Orders over $50 are going to get five bucks off with offer code wan bottle.
All one word, w-a-n-b-o-t-t-l-e, all lowercase.
So that's live from now until Monday.
Five dollars off, any order, $50 or more.
So if you grab a water bottle, a t-shirt, maybe throw some cable ties in, you're ready
to rock.
Yeah.
All right.
Can I water cooling LTT water bottle or can Linus make a video of water cooling LTT water
bottle?
Oh boy, don't tempt me.
That actually could be doable.
We could use it as like a reservoir.
There'd be no reason to do it.
It would be stupid, but yeah, we could probably do that.
We could just flip it up, create a custom acrylic thing for the water.
That could look really cool actually.
It could look kind of cool.
You wouldn't be able to monitor your coolant level, so it's not the kind of thing I would
actually recommend and it is not designed for the longterm storage of liquids.
All right.
All right.
Theoretically, yes, we could do that.
So to jump back to the topic I was talking about previously, apparently Facebook has
launched a Tor network site, an Onion network site.
Really?
Yeah.
I've heard security reasons for their users.
Yeah, that's the motivation.
It's pretty weird for someone to Onion network into their own Facebook account, but with
stuff like that happening, and I believe there was other ones, but I couldn't find them all
right now.
It doesn't matter, but I have at least one mainstream example of a very large, big website
that tons of people use that has made an effectively mirror on a dark web service.
I think it's going to happen more.
I think it's going to happen a lot more actually.
Okay.
I think it's going to take quite a while, like a really long time, but I think it's
going to happen more because the main internet as we know it is going to be like the amount
of bills that have been coming out, restricting what people can do, changing different access
to things, doing all this kind of stuff.
Governments from all over the freaking planet, it seems like trendy at this point in time
to try to control how the internet works and that's just going to get even worse over time
and I think people are going to try to run away from that because the internet as we
know it is constantly changing and in not good ways.
I don't know if you've heard what's going on with, oh man, what is their actual name?
I know the dude's name.
South African tech YouTube channel did Bitcoin stuff for a long time.
Now they're a little bit not doing as much Bitcoin stuff.
I would hope not.
Why can't I remember their name?
That's annoying.
Anyways, South Africa-
UFD Tech?
Yes, UFD Tech.
UFD Tech in my mind.
I was like, I know that's not it, obviously, but anyways, South African, yeah, South Africa
is killing our YouTube channel.
Apparently they pass something or they're trying to pass something, I don't know, I
don't know all the details, I'm sorry, but where you have to pass all images or series
of images, also known as videos, through the government before you post them online.
So, because some dude didn't like memes being made about him or something, I don't know,
but they're basically shutting down all South African content creators.
That sucks.
Wow.
I don't know if this bill went through or not.
Again, I don't know any of the details.
South African law is not a strong suit of mine, but governments getting their hands
in on internet is a major thing right now.
Definitely a trend.
So, I think people are going to try to scatter and get away from it.
Oh, crap.
People are asking how many fluid ounces it is.
I believe it's 12.
Don't quote me on that though.
I don't remember.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not on the box.
Dang it.
Yeah, it's not on here.
Is it on the website?
What's 12 fluid ounces in cups?
Or mils is fine.
One and a half cups.
No, I think it's more than that.
Maybe it's 16 then.
Yeah, that's way more than one and a half cups.
It's probably 16.
Does it say it on here?
No, it doesn't.
I think that's why people are mad.
Oh.
Oh.
No.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry, we'll get back to you on that.
I don't think it's 20.
It definitely seems more than 12.
Yeah, I don't think it's 20 because you guys got to remember this is a vacuum water bottle,
so the walls are quite thick.
Yeah.
16 I think would make sense.
Yeah, really don't know though.
All right.
What else do we have?
Do we have to do news anymore or can we just like shoot the breeze?
I think we can shoot the breeze.
We did the ad spots.
We're like the majority, vast majority of the way through the show.
Facial recognition to become standard in US airports, so that kind of sucks.
We could talk about that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Department of Homeland Security plans to use facial recognition technology on 97% of departing
passengers within the next four years.
It was first started rolling out in 2017, was operational in 15 airports as of the end
of 2018, and it works by photographing passengers at their departure gate.
It then cross references this photograph against a library populated with images from visa
and passport applications, as well as those taken by border agents when foreigners enter
the country.
It will allow US authorities to identify people who have overstayed their visas.
They've traditionally relied on airline flight manifests to track who's leaving the country,
but apparently since the introduction of the system, facial recognition identified 7,000
passengers who overstayed their visas on the 15,000 flights tracked.
They estimate that over 600,000 people overstay their visas every year, an offense that carries
a maximum penalty of a 10-year ban from entering the US.
All righty then.
Okay.
So, roast.
Yeah.
People thought we were mad at each other.
You and me?
Mm-hmm.
You didn't see those comments?
No.
On FlowPlate?
I saw a significant number of people.
So, there were discussion threads on the forum.
Okay, I legit did not see that.
Discussion threads on Reddit.
Not mostly about you and me.
People mostly thought that there was going to be a strain on my marriage because of some
of the roast material between me and Yvonne.
I knew there wouldn't be beforehand, but evidence that wasn't on camera, you guys were happy,
laughing, joking, being very friendly couple people at the dinner afterwards.
We're fine.
They were more than fine.
Honestly, that is no worse than stuff that we say to each other on a regular basis.
And always not in anger or anything like that.
Yeah.
We just, we mess with each other a lot and we consider it something.
Honestly, I will say that it kind of blows my mind when people think that the interaction
my wife and I are having could somehow be negative.
Yeah.
Because I'm glad that I can say things in jest that are taken as a joke.
I mean, I've said a lot of times I think that the world would be a better place if people
took the words for what they meant as opposed to what they said.
Obviously, when I make a joke about my wife's flat chest, I don't mean that I don't like
her and I don't mean that I care and that it's a problem.
Yeah.
I mean that- Those last two are pretty important.
Objectively, that's a thing that's true.
LOL.
And ignoring that isn't like- It's like, what should I say?
Should I say, I've never seen such a busty woman in all my years?
Then you're kind of an idiot or blind.
Or a liar.
Or a liar.
Right.
I don't want to be any of those things.
It's got to be one of them.
Why can't we just be honest with each other?
Even if you're blind, you would have probably- That's a policy that's worked pretty well
for me.
You know, honesty in relationships is really important and people who can't handle honesty,
quite frankly, my life is better without them.
So, yeah, no.
No one's mad.
It's all good.
I thought it was hilarious.
I had a blast.
I thought it was so funny.
It was like- Although, my favorite part about all of your
jokes was that I laughed before anyone else because I knew where you were going.
I found that so hilarious.
I watched that whole part over again because I thought it was so funny.
The second you look at me, you're like, he's a liar, you know?
I just can't even- I can't even- That was so good.
I think there was a swear word in there.
Probably.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm cooling it for the wench.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Floatplane chat got the wording correct.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That was really funny though.
I enjoyed the whole thing.
I didn't know there was any comments about that, to be honest.
Oh, yeah.
No, there were a ton of comments.
Honestly, it was a ton of fun.
They've been working on the red carpet interviews this week.
Yeah.
So, you did an interview, right?
A little one, yeah.
Yeah.
So, they've been- So, the YouTube version is actually going to have quite a few things
different from the Floatplane version.
A couple of the jokes are going to get cut.
Not actually because they were too offensive.
That's not the reasoning.
It was more to do with flow.
Okay.
So, I think there's two or three that I'm going to be fighting it out with James.
I think he wants to leave all the jokes intact.
I disagree.
I think some of the off-camera banter was B minus material at best and just disrupted
the flow and should just be cut.
So, he and I will fight it out.
Yeah.
So, a couple of the jokes will be cut.
The swearing will be censored.
Yeah.
And then one of the biggest changes, you know what, it's lucky.
You know how we didn't have microphones pointed at the audience?
Yeah.
So, the feed that Dennis has in his edit is way better in terms of audience reaction noise
because it didn't have the guy at the live mixing board turning down everyone who wasn't
talking.
So, we've got nine mics open at the front of the room and they actually pick up quite
a bit more of it.
So, I was worried we were going to have to laugh track it just to get back to where we
were.
Yeah.
So, I don't know if...
I think we've mentioned it a few times, but people watching now, if you watch the roast,
we didn't have mics dedicated in the audience.
That's why one of the people doing a roast might pause for a little while and chuckle
to themselves slightly.
It's not necessarily an awkward pause.
Most likely the audience was laughing.
Yeah.
So, the good news is we don't have to alter that, but what we're also going to change
is we're going to structure the whole thing more like a TV broadcast.
Okay.
So, at the start, there's going to be like the red carpet interviews.
There's these amazing title cards for...
I saw mine.
Did you see yours?
It's really cool actually.
I like it.
Should we try to get one?
I can probably find mine.
Yeah.
Can you get one and then we'll...
It'll take me a sec, but yeah.
We'll show it on stream.
So, there's these amazing title cards for all the roasters, little snippets of interviews.
And then what we're actually going to do is we're going to experiment with something that
we've, I think, only once tried before.
It's really funny.
We get comments on our videos every once in a while like, wait a squeak over the 10-minute
mark by bloating the video.
No, no, no, no.
That only matters if you run an extra mid-roll on the video.
That's the only reason you get paid more for it.
I can just switch to your screen.
Yeah.
Give me a sec though.
I will in a sec.
So, there's no benefit to being over 10 minutes unless you actually run more ads, which we
don't do, because we have our own sponsor stuff baked in.
Hey, Ed.
Where would I find the cards for the roasters?
The title cards.
Yeah.
Is it in the folder somewhere?
Like, L-roll or...
Post, graphics, intro, users, nice tech to... graphics?
I need Photoshop?
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Because they're PSDs probably.
You don't have...
No.
You have JPEGs in them.
No, those are just pictures.
Oh, those are the original pictures.
Oh, that's too bad.
Oh, my God.
I'm excited for Kyle's.
Oh, man.
Yeah, Kyle's is so good.
I've seen Kyle's.
I think one of them just was, hold on.
Oh.
Maybe?
Or maybe it's just the background.
Oh, I think it was just...
Oh, yeah.
There's one.
Okay, good, good, good.
Okay, so we've got at least a couple to show you guys.
At least one.
Cool.
And we can show you Kyle's picture for his.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
So, we've got that.
So, then anyway, what we're going to do is we're...
Really, you guys?
Wow.
All right.
You couldn't go behind?
So, we're actually going to split the video up into commercial breaks.
Okay.
So, we're going to like go to commercial, like a dip to black.
Oh, it's going to be an actual spot.
And then we're going to have probably like our own message, like we'll have like a spot
for the Madrina's Coffee roast, blah, blah, blah, or like get the commemorative LTT roast
shirt at lttstore.com.
And then we're going to run a YouTube mid-roll.
So it's an hour and a half long.
So we'll probably run like three or four of these spots.
But yeah, the whole thing is going to be actually structured like a broadcast.
Cool.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's like kind of a neat idea.
Yeah.
So anyway, here's Luke's.
I love mine.
Yeah, I love it so much.
I love mine.
That's super cool.
Like where is this even from?
I don't remember.
Like you're holding the glass.
I don't remember when I was just standing there with the glass.
It must've been grabbed while we were like waiting around before the show.
I love it.
And then I've got a couple more over on my system here.
So this is mine.
It's actually pretty legit too.
Oh man.
These are cool.
This is Kyle's picture.
I'm just excited what this is going to turn into.
It looks so legit.
I know, right?
I'm so excited.
So yeah, we...
People started spamming the Floatplane logo in Floatplane chat.
Okay.
So for those wondering, yes, the like director's cut version is going to hit Floatplane.
Yeah.
The only difference then will just be that it's uncensored.
So it'll still have the couple of awkward jokes or pauses cut.
Like it'll be the exact same cut as YouTube except it's just going to not be censored.
So are you guys doing the ad spots?
Which ones?
In the Floatplane one.
You know what?
Probably not.
I would think maybe the Madrina's ones.
I would think we might leave the Madrina's ones because they did sponsor the show and
we'll probably leave the one for the shirt.
Those are so topical and they'll probably be, I don't know.
So that's the purpose of the ones that we're baking in, is that they are directly tied
to the roast.
Yeah.
Actually, you know what?
That makes sense.
Can I show them the mock-up of the roast shirt graphic?
Sure.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
Guys, let me just bring this up.
Yes.
I love that logo.
It's pretty great.
That's what I really like that.
Where is my chat with him though?
I don't talk to him all that often.
No, no, I've got it.
I've got it.
I've got it.
It's just a matter of scrolling up through it.
Here we go.
I'm so excited for the shirt design.
Are we still doing the cranberry color?
Whoa, what?
Yes.
Okay.
So here it is.
Whoa.
That's not what I was expecting at all.
This is not what you're thinking?
That's pretty cool.
Oh, is this completely something else?
Have you seen the pin?
Oh, the pin's really cool.
It's not going to be that one.
I love the pin.
Sorry.
I just wanted one with an LTT logo here and then a huge image of that pin on the back.
Yeah.
I love that pin.
It's super cool.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
It's up for screen printing.
Yeah.
But yeah, so this is like the-
That's super cool too.
I just hadn't seen this.
The dog with the room on fire.
Yeah, I know.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
That works for a whole bunch of reasons because that's a meme in itself.
That's pretty-
The one change we ended up making is this bag of the LTT roast is also going to be the
lighter color.
Okay.
So that it stands out from the table and the fire and everything.
Yeah.
But yeah, this is fine.
Everything is fine.
Yeah.
That's pretty awesome.
Apparently I have Tinder open.
Yeah.
Super Tinder.
What?
I think you're thinking of Google Docs, Kit Guru, Twitter, Floatplane, Gmail, Google Photos,
YouTube and the Linus Tech Tips store.
Nothing I'm going to get in trouble for, for sure.
What?
What can I help you with, by the way?
I thought it was Twinder.
Twinder.
I have answers for your water bottle questions.
Oh, water bottle questions.
Yeah.
Nick's here.
Yeah.
What's up?
Do you have any questions?
Oh, no.
Okay.
In a very unscientific test, it seems like it's 20 ounces.
20 ounces.
But we're going to confirm that we're going to add it.
We will confirm that and add it.
Also if you want one.
You can just stand closer so I don't have to repeat.
Also if you want one, over 20% of the stock is gone already for like what's currently
in our warehouse.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Oh.
So if you want one, you should order one and then we're probably going to set up a back
order for the remaining ones that we have on order and then we have to order more.
I told you we were going to have to order more.
I know.
You were right.
I told them.
I was like, these are going to be fire.
I love this thing so much.
We're gun shy after a couple of the other ones.
We have gotten burned on some stuff.
I've already seen people complaining like, it's $30.
That's a lot.
Yes.
These types of water bottles are pretty expensive.
We know.
These types of water bottles also are not that cheap.
Like legit.
And the thing is like-
Just if you want one that isn't trash.
The merch business overall has to, at some point, stop losing money for us.
Nick just laughs.
We do have to make some margin on it.
That's all I can really say.
That's the thing is in any business, the successful products pay for the ones that weren't as
successful and so that's what this has to do.
With that said, I don't think $29.99 US is entirely unreasonable.
It's also fully custom and really nice.
Yeah.
That's the other thing too, guys, is we're not just putting our label on a water bottle
that we found on AliExpress or whatever.
Everything about this was designed for us.
It's full custom.
So if you just go to the local printing shop or cafe press or whatever and just customize,
print your logo on it, it's not going to be the same quality.
Like the printing on here is really durable.
It's actually really nice.
So I don't know.
I don't think it's unreasonable.
We do have to make some margin and we are doing the $5 coupon code as a launch promo.
There's already someone in full plain chat who's like, I got a t-shirt and the water
bottle and here's the code.
Hooray.
And just to be clear, when you say we're not just like picking something off AliExpress,
we are working with people overseas.
Yes, we are working with people overseas.
So like, but we're creating a custom product here in Canada or anything like that, but
we're doing a lot of work on the front end to make it fully custom to us.
And the thing is that there's a lot of overhead involved in that.
We've literally been working on this water bottle for like three months now.
Someone in chat brought up shipping to Australia.
I can add in that I know shipping has been something they've been working on for a long
time and I know shipping to Europe got a lot better very recently.
Yeah.
Australia should be less than $20 to get there.
It just might take like up to three weeks to get to you.
Oh, that's kind of a bummer, but yeah.
Working on it.
Also, if right now Canada Post has an issue where they're printing out tracking numbers,
which are really reference numbers.
So if you get a tracking number that doesn't work, don't worry.
Your order is still fine.
Just Canada Post and anyway.
So there's been a lot of work that's gone into like setting this up and making it better.
But I've said this before, I'll say it again.
The commitment though is that our merch, it might not be cheap, it might not be fast,
it might not be easy, but it'll be good.
So that's the commitment.
And if it takes us months to bring a water bottle to market and we have to take on an
enormous order, minimum order quantity in order to get like the quality and the customization
that we want, then we're just going to do it.
And hopefully it goes well.
I mean, already this one's a smash hit.
Yes.
Somebody in chat said, to be fair, I just shipped an eBay sale to Australia and it was
63 Canadian dollars for less than two kilograms.
Canada Post sucks.
So they're dealing with really difficult shipping problems.
When you go over massive oceans, it's a little expensive, but they're working on it.
And it shouldn't be $63 to get to Australia, it should be less than 20.
Yeah.
But that's just Canada Post like wrecking you if you're not doing enormous volumes with
them.
Yeah.
But they're working on it.
It's so frustrating because like Royal Mail in the UK, like you can send a letter overseas
for like next to nothing.
And so I think a lot of the time people from places where shipping is heavily subsidized,
like Hong Kong or the UK are just like, no, it should be like cheap to ship packages.
Like I bought used books on eBay for like $3.50 that shipped from the UK.
And I'm sitting here going like, the Bernstein bears crossed an ocean to get here.
I can't do that.
No amount of volume that I could ship via Canada Post would get me any way to get something
to you for $3.50.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I do my best.
Yeah, we're excited.
I'm actually super stoked on this too, actually.
This is finally the finished design for...
Is there an ETA for this?
No.
Okay.
Sorry.
Actually, it's not quite finished.
I think we are going to make these ribbons more like this thickness.
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah.
The orange accents up here are going to be a little bit thinner.
This is a really, really cool hoodie though.
So these are reflective.
So if you're out at night...
Oh, that's pretty legit.
They're high-vis.
So there's one on the back as well.
They don't look...
There's some stuff that's reflective that looks annoying in the daytime.
No.
This doesn't look annoying.
I didn't even know it was reflective.
No, it's like pretty stealthy.
That's really cool.
It has the phone pocket that I actually demoed on like social media before that's big enough
to fit even a note.
I'm not trying to like oversell this stuff.
I just don't know because I'm not a part of the LMG team.
So I'm learning this stuff live and it's cool.
So it can't come out because of the way the pockets are designed.
Does it have like an overlap or something?
It's just that the pocket sits over top of it.
That makes sense.
So you have to like really pull it out, which, okay, yeah, maybe that's annoying, but also
just don't put it in there unless you really don't want it to fall out.
It's either it can fall out or it's easy to get out or you can put it over here.
So no, I really like this one.
The latest problem we had with it, so the reason this one's delayed, this one we've
been working on for like four or five months, was the supplier that we were going to go
with for whatever reason, couldn't do a YKK zipper and we're like, well, that's stupid.
We're not going to ship, like this is not going to be that cheap.
We're not going to ship a hoodie at this price point that doesn't have something that people
recognize to be a high quality zipper.
They're like, well, this one's fine.
No, it's not fine.
So we have solved that problem.
YKK.
There you go.
Anyway.
Yeah.
I think that's it for the show though.
Yeah.
I think that's, I think that's pretty much it.
When can we get the jacket?
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
We're, I think the hats and the jacket and the other jacket, you know, the really cool
one, the stealth one, right?
Yes.
I love that one.
And that one's going to be really affordable too.
I don't think that one has a YKK zipper, but it's going to be at a lower price point.
It looks really cool.
I don't know when any of it's coming and I wish all this stuff was faster.
Underwear.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Someone in chat said pajamas.
Oh, my boxers aren't, the boxers aren't here, but I actually finally have, you know what?
I'm just going to go get my backpack, stall them.
Okay.
There aren't any news topics yet.
So what I will talk about is there's been, yeah, the kind of, yeah.
So there's been a lot of stuttering as people have noticed on flow plane, but if you watch
on Twitch and YouTube, there's been a lot of stuttering there as well and throughout
the entire show.
I'm just going to address this because a lot of people in the live chat have been commenting
on it and I believe some of it's going to go into the VOD.
So I think I'm talking to VOD people too here.
I've been looking over and I've seen a lot of stuttering in OBS right there.
I don't think that's the only problem necessarily, but there's something wrong with this computer.
We've been saying that for freaking months.
I think I have finally convinced Jake that it's Windows.
So he's going to finally actually reformat the damn thing.
I don't work for LMG anymore, so it's not really my deal.
But yeah, I think they're actually going to do it because looking at OBS, there are zero
dropped frames and the CPU doesn't seem to be overly utilized.
I know Linus has been saying he thinks it's a CPU thing, but it's very low utilization
the whole time.
So I believe it's a Windows problem.
So we're going to do a reformat hopefully before next week.
I'll try to get on Jake's butt about doing that and hopefully that will resolve the problem.
Yeah, Jake.
Throw it under the bus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I told you like a long time ago, you should have reformatted Windows.
In Jake's defense though, he also had like videos to make that I needed him to do.
Okay.
Um, sort of throwing him under the bus though.
It's not like you got them done.
So also reformatting Windows is mostly like, actually he got tied up mostly by side projects
this week.
Click next progress thing.
So this, I'm probably not supposed to show this to you and Nick's going to freak out
because he hates it.
When I like tease stuff that's just never going to be available, but it will, it will.
It's just going to take a while.
This super legit is the finished, not the print.
See how there's like this weird black like gap down the back and stuff.
And also the, I think the angle of the printing is not quite right.
The, the pouch at the front is going to also be printed.
Um, there's like a weird kind of like misalignment sort of, or like the angle changes.
See how it's like kind of flat on this side and it's angled on this side.
So we could have fixed that, but we wouldn't have been able to do the single piece seamless
back.
So that was like, what matters more?
Yeah.
And we decided comfort first.
I would go with comfort.
Comfort first.
Um, but we have gone back and forth with, I think at this point, over half a dozen suppliers
multiple times in order to finally settle on the material.
So there's different, not, you don't get to touch it yet, by the way, I haven't worn these.
So they're, they're, they're clean.
Um, so just wear them to work and then take them off mid days.
So they're at work.
I assumed they were clean.
So there's, there's different, there's like, there's different materials that could be
considered premium.
Um, so one of them is Madao and Lloyd was pushing really hard for Madao.
He wanted Madao underwear.
And I was like, look, I don't like it.
So it's a super, it's a super soft, it feels like high thread count sort of beddings.
Like it's really soft, like kind of silky, but probably too slick, but it's not that
supportive.
Like it doesn't have a lot of like, hold you in.
I was going to say that sounds not like sporty enough.
So what we settled on was, um, a Madao cotton blend that we actually had to have the factory
custom produce an entire, like not a bolt of cloth, like, like a, like an industrial,
like, I don't know what the unit is.
It's not a ream.
It's not a bolt.
It's like, we actually had to have them custom make this material for us.
And then they've sent us these sample one, these sample garments.
So they're just like storing this gigantic roll of material.
And then we're going to do the production run hopefully pretty soon, but, uh, feel it.
Wow.
That's actually really nice.
So it's a cotton Madao blend that we had to have them custom do for us.
So it's still really soft.
Yeah.
Like really soft on your hands.
Nice and stretchy and springy and stuff.
Yeah.
So I'm like super stoked on these.
That's so excited.
So there's going to be three different colors.
There's this one.
I don't actually know.
It's hard to give it to get across like, yeah, this feels good.
Ah, here's one of the other colors.
I like that one.
So they'll come in a three pack.
Okay, cool.
So you'll get this one, then there's like the, this one.
And then there's a blue background one, I think you don't have an orange one.
No.
Interesting.
So we are kind of, it's not that we're moving away from orange.
It's that we are broadening our palette a little bit.
We don't want to be locked into orange forever because what we've discovered is that especially
when it comes to apparel, it's hard to make it look like when you're doing, um, when you're
doing a piece like this one, that's meant to be bold.
People constantly used to ask me what orange is LTT orange.
The forum uses multiple different oranges because it will look drastically different
depending on what colors are around it.
So at some point in time, we just decided we'll just change it so that it sort of looks
the same all the time, even though it's not, because if we actually make it technically
the same orange, it looks wildly different across the whole site.
So it's, it's kind of a frustrating color to work with and I'm not even a designer.
We have sold 30% of the water bottle inventory that's in the warehouse.
So 10% more since Nick was here.
Yeah.
People are like, how much are the boxers going to cost?
I don't know.
Um, the reason that we're doing bundles of three though is because I don't think these
are going to be as high margin of an item.
Uh, they were really expensive for us to do standard.
Isn't it anyways?
Yeah, that's pretty standard.
Um, but the, the reason was that we needed to make sure that we weren't just shipping
out one unit at a time because our handling costs, which are actually, you know, you know
who does our handling for us?
Do you remember Patrick?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's actually one of the old warehouse managers at NCIX who's like super good guy.
He's fantastic.
So he started his own business, but they're really small.
So I mean, part of it is like, we really want to work with Patrick cause he knows the shiz.
Um, and he's honest, he's reliable.
Like we can count on him.
We trust him.
Um, but like he's a super, he's a startup, he's a startup.
So like he's doing his best, but what it means is that our handling costs are a little bit
on the higher side.
Not because he's gouging us or anything, but because he's, he's starting out, he's building
his momentum right now.
So our handling costs per item are pretty high.
So if we bundle them together, yes, you pay more, but you get three of them and then we
can amortize that overhead over three units of it and we can still make decent margin.
This is all, it's so funny.
It's almost like I'm doing my old job again.
Yeah.
Oh man, that's great.
Um, you're, you're probably gonna end up paying less per unit, like per per boxer.
Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely.
So palatable.
Whenever you go to the store, buying a single pair of socks or buying a single unit of underwear
is almost never worth it compared to buying a multi-pack.
People are like, we need LTT thongs says the grassy Bush.
You don't wow, uh, LTX, LTX stuff.
Is there an update?
Llama Fama wants float plane merge.
Hey, there's, um, actually a shirt coming.
Yeah.
There is a shirt coming.
It'll be available exclusively at LTX in very limited quantities.
Yeah.
So you better be there.
And I'm, I'm like, I don't even know.
We're not even a hundred percent certain at this time if we're going to be selling them.
Oh really?
Oh, okay.
So the amount of creators are going to be at LTX are going to be on the platform that
are probably going to want to have some shirts and are probably going to want to give some
shirts away.
Oh, we actually have a really important LTX update, um, BYOC update and last call for
early bird pricing.
So if you haven't bought your LTX dream hack ticket yet, do it now.
Early bird pricing ends tomorrow and tier two prices, which are higher, will take effect
at noon tomorrow.
Um, a limited number of Saturday passes remain.
They're selling fast, but don't worry.
There are still two day passes and Sunday passes available.
Uh, both event days run from 11 AM to 6 PM with the BYOC going through Saturday night
into Sunday.
You don't have to leave.
Um, at the main stage, there'll be different events and panels each day and a number of
the booths throughout the expo area will also have daily pricing for assorted mini games
and activities.
So tier two prices, one day pass, 35 US, two day pass, 60 US, BYOC plus two day pass, $90.
Yes.
More BYOC seats will be available noon, April 20th.
It took some Tetris, like rearranging the floor plan a couple times, but we made room
for 90 more seats ish ish.
So a guys, um, noon tomorrow, BYOC.
That's the only, we are not going to be able to create more BYOC tickets.
This is not like a concert where they're like sold out performance and it's like, well,
why do you have a radio ad running for it?
Because we're going to open up mercy.
Yeah.
This is not that you guys actually need to get your tickets this time and we actually
were sold out.
Yeah.
So, um, Oh wow.
There's a whole bunch more stuff.
Uh, update from dream hack on some of the BYOC activities.
Oh cool.
We understand that some attendees prefer a very competitive environment while others
enjoy more relaxed atmosphere.
And we've decided to provide both.
They'll be hosting between three to six competitive tournaments.
Attendees will need to come prepared with preorganized teams ready to compete for trophies
and press.
Wow.
They're like doing tournaments and stuff.
Yeah.
That's super cool.
I thought they were just doing it.
I want to cast the rocket league tournament.
I've said that before.
I'm serious about that though.
I want to do that.
The format rule set and schedule for each tournament will be posted in advance.
You'll have plenty of time to prepare your team.
The first two games we're announcing for this format are rainbow six siege and rocket league.
Uh, the other games will be decided by popular vote via a survey that will be sent to the
BYOC attendees after the BYOC sells out again.
So probably sometime on Sunday.
For anyone not interested in competitive tournaments, they'll be hosting plenty of casual pop-up
events throughout the weekend.
Some previous favorites include one hour build-offs in Minecraft and Terraria, private server
free-for-alls in PUBG and Fortnite, and 32v32 brawls in Quake and UT, just to name a few.
That's so sick.
Oh, that's really cool.
There are under a hundred days left to the event.
Buy your tickets now at, they put their track link there, but it doesn't really matter.
PUBG slash LTX 19, we'll see you there.
So guys, it's going to be awesome.
Um, I'm so stoked.
I might just skip backstreet boys and just stay.
I don't know.
I can, what I might do, and this is like, I realize I'm sounding like kind of a crazy
out of touch rich person right now, but what I might do, I really want to see them is I
might just grab a plane ticket.
So I'll scalp my tickets, grab a plane ticket and fly and see them somewhere else.
Okay.
I thought you were going to like fly to their house.
You can charter a float plane to the Vancouver Convention Center.
Oh really?
That would be so cool.
I thought you were going to write that off as a float plane marketing expense.
I thought because where is the concert?
It's downtown Vancouver.
I actually wouldn't need a plane.
Oh yeah.
Well no, I was thinking like if it was back, if it was against water, you could fly from
LTX to backstreet boys and then fly back.
I might just do it though because I honestly, I think LTX 2019 is going to be like once
in a lifetime.
I mean, LTX 2020, yeah, we're going to do everything in our power to crush 2019.
But 2019, it's the first of us doing it this big.
Yes.
And like, I don't know that certain things we're doing this year would be possible.
It is costing us almost 50,000 US dollars to fly out the incredible roster of tech creators
that are going to be in attendance.
Of people I'm trying to recruit to be on float plane.
So this is what we have confirmed so far.
Yes, my friends, it's not just Linus Tech Expo.
It's like, I'll be there, sure.
But I don't know, by the time we're done, I may not be the most famous person there.
And that would be great because we're not necessarily done.
I think we've spent just over 40 grand so far on plane tickets, accommodations, plus
ones, camera people, like making sure that these guys are comfortable.
These are all like very important people, very busy.
You know, we're not paying any of them to be there, but we need to make sure that we're
accommodating them and making sure that they're comfortable.
And yeah, it's exciting, but it also hurts my wallet.
So I don't know.
I don't know what future LTXs will look like, but this year has been a breakout year and
I'm really excited.
So yeah, like Linus, stop shaking your feet.
Is Linus in the closet?
I mean, Backstreet Boys, really?
You can like music without having a particular sexual orientation.
Just saying.
And that's far, far from the uncoolest music that I enjoy.
There you go.
Oh, we should totally just change it.
Legendary tech expo.
Oh, they deleted their message.
That's weird.
I liked the idea.
You should have it be one of those like cheesy things where you have like, you have tech
expo, or what does T stand for in it?
Minus tech expo.
So just force the L to stay there, have tech expo stay there, and then just swap the word
that comes in after the L.
Old habits die hard.
There you go.
My old water bottle there.
But you could swap in like legendary, leet, whatever.
That could be like a transition, like a transitionary thing.
Yeah, yeah.
So you can make it like the L kind of stands for what you want.
Yeah.
Just slowly detach.
Alright.
Yeah, I love Nickelback.
Sorry.
One step forward and two steps back.
I think we're done for the day.
See you guys next time.
Same, same bad time, same bad channel.
Am I even here next week?
I think I'm here next week.
Holy crap.
People are spamming the hell out of Invite Louis Rosman.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd bring Louis.
Sure.
Why not?
He was there last time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bye, guys.