I have made some clean setups in my time.
In fact, I'd say some of the cleanest.
So when a company has the gall to send me their attempt
at a super, super clean setup capable desk,
and they pre-build the thing,
I gotta say, I'm a little hurt.
What is this?
You guys don't think I'm capable
of putting a computer inside a desk?
Well, I'm gonna show you
that I've got the skills to pay the bills.
You think it's just my employees
who know how to do this stuff?
I am not only going to build a computer
as good as this one,
I'm gonna do it in just an hour.
And time starts right after I tell you about our sponsor.
Dan, you've got the thing, right?
Yeah.
Are you gonna play it?
No, it's not helpful.
Is the sponsor not in it? It's not helpful.
Ah, it's brought to you by Moment.
We're at the devil or the talking point.
They were in the script, I swear.
Trello, Trello, stall for time.
It's going great.
Give me the thing, quick.
I need the thing, there's nothing in here.
Just stay in the moment, it's okay.
You're supposed to teleprompter.
No, no, forget it.
You're done, bud.
I need a laptop.
We're going, we're going.
He's working on it.
Just gotta-
Stall for time.
Yeah.
Where are the talking points?
Oh boy.
Let's get started, we'll do it after.
Yeah.
I could do the read.
Let me do the read on it.
Meet the uneven base,
an e-sports oriented gaming desk product
that seeks to integrate absolutely everything you need
for a full on e-sports experience.
Conveniently, we don't have to just imagine
what it's gonna look like.
We've got a completed one that they sent over to us.
Do you want it still?
You guys are taking it away.
One moment, please.
Put it back.
Whoa, all right.
So front of the desk,
we've got what appears to be a four foot desktop surface
with integrated RGB.
Got a couple panels here.
I guess we'll figure all that out as we go.
The point is you've got an MITX,
so an ITX gaming PC enclosure over here on the left
with what appears to be a tempered glass window.
You've got an integrated monitor stand,
VESA compatible, obviously,
that appears to fold down or something like that.
Okay, that's gonna be a bit of an adventure
when we figure that out.
And then at the back,
you've got all the room that you could possibly want
for cable management and ventilation.
You can't see that?
Come on, Andy, I got you.
There you go, how's that?
All right.
Oh, and an RGB logo.
Sick.
All right, you guys can take this away now.
I'm gonna build my own.
There, boom, and one, two, three, unplugged.
Bye-bye.
There you go.
Let's go ahead and get started.
Theoretically, I have a bunch of notes on all of this,
but I guess I'm just winging it
because there was absolutely nothing in there.
Let's go ahead and unbox the desk, shall we?
Uneven, I've never actually even heard of these guys.
Is this their first product?
Is this their only product?
This is their only product
that they have on their site right now.
Okay, it's their only product for now.
These are super cool.
This is a USB header to additional USB header kind of hub,
I guess would be the best way to describe it.
A lot of peripherals, like internal peripherals,
things like extra screens
that go on your CPU cooler, for example,
will use a USB two header
in order to update the microcontrollers
that they have on board or to write data to their storage.
Like say, for example, now's not a good time.
See you later.
Like say, for example,
if you wanted to throw a new picture on one of those things,
or if you wanted to change the pattern
of your addressable RGB strips or something like that.
So this allows you to take one USB two header
off of your motherboard and split it out
into a whopping four additional USB headers.
And because this is not a performance sensitive application,
that's not a problem because realistically
you're never really even using any of those things at once.
Uneven appears to have their own addressable
RGB hub doodadamajig.
I'm assuming that this goes out to the motherboard.
Hey, look at that, it's labeled.
This one goes to the motherboard
and then you can do up to 10 additional
RGB strips off this thing.
Love to see it.
You know what I'd actually really love to see
is someone build a one of these
that has almost like a clamp that goes on top of it
that grabs onto these RGB things once they're in there
because otherwise they're such a pain in the butt.
You basically got to hot glue them into place.
They also include some cable extensions,
sleeve cable extensions.
So if you don't have a pretty power supply
with pretty cables, you can still gussy up your build.
And this is really nice.
They've got extensions for the front IO connector.
So this is your power switch, power button,
power, those are the same thing.
Reset switch, power LED and drive indicator LED.
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We got this, right Adam?
We got this.
Yeah, we got this.
All right.
I'm not counting unboxing the desk
as part of my hour by the way.
Okay, that's fine.
We'll let it slide.
All right.
Wow, okay.
That's kind of cool.
You can see the caboose of the desk, right?
So that's how they managed to make it thick enough
to actually put a flippin' computer in here.
I am looking at what appears to be 80 millimeter fans
over here on the side, noise blocker, very nice.
High grade included fans,
but still have a low enough profile.
So you've got this angled shape, right?
Still have a low enough profile at the front
that you're not whacking your knees
against that flippin' computer that's inside your desk.
That's been a major design consideration for us.
Every time we've made some of our various attempts,
come better than others, at building desk PCs.
What else am I looking at here?
It's got an integrated handle.
So I guess the idea is if you had like a lot of these,
you could kind of roll them out pretty easily.
Man, with a computer in there,
it'd be pretty flippin' heavy though, wouldn't it?
Okay, neat.
So let's go ahead and get these legs unstrapped here.
Okay.
Oh, got a QR code here with a quick guide and user manual.
Okay, they don't lock into, oh, they do lock into place.
There you go.
Got a little brace like that.
It goes on a little something like, hmm.
One moment, please.
Here, come on in here, Andy.
Let's see if we can figure this out.
Oh no, that is it.
Is that it?
Oh, there we go.
There's your problem.
It's just got to settle all the way in there.
Okay, cool.
This is a really neat idea for a product.
I've seen desk cases before
from the likes of Lee and Lee, for example,
but very expensive, very premium.
Basically so expensive that if you're not building
a top of the line machine and water cooling it,
your money would be better spent
almost literally on anything else.
Tell me something.
No, I'm going to make it a little bit further.
Then I want to know how much this thing costs.
Because if they're targeting esports,
it could go one of two ways.
It's either going to be like three grand
because realistically you're a sponsored
esports athlete anyway.
So, you know, whatever.
You just get your sponsor to buy it for you.
Or it goes the other way and it's like, look,
we understand that you're only playing Dota 2 anyway.
So, you know, you probably don't want to spend
a lot of money on your computer.
You do need a desk.
So here you go.
And it'll be like, I'm going to say $4.99.
Okay, let's go ahead and pop this up.
I will say though, the molding costs of this
are probably pretty substantial.
Ooh, okay.
I take back what I said.
This is not $4.99.
Okay, okay, okay.
This is pretty nice actually, what we're looking at here.
Here, let me just put this on my mark here.
Oh, wow.
There's a lot of tooling, a lot of molding.
$8.99.
I'm saying $8.99 US.
Okay, Adam, Adam, Adam, come over here.
You know the price already, right?
I do, I do.
There's a lot of cool stuff going on here.
We've got what appears to be an ITX compatible motherboard.
No, that looks like MATX motherboard tray.
So you don't even have to go ITX.
Dual included 80 millimeter noise blocker fans.
What appears to be a radiator compatible
dual 120 millimeter rad mount at the back.
Andy, you might want to just get in for the closeup of this
rather than trying to get me talking about it.
So let's show that motherboard tray.
We've got the 80 millimeter noise blocker fans.
Those appears to be on,
they appear to be on some kind of
acoustic dampening mount already.
Oh, this is getting very premium.
Ooh, PCIe riser.
That just added 30, $40 to the bomb.
Here's that radiator compatible rear 120 millimeter
dual fan mount back here.
We've got what seems to be an integrated
kind of cable channel right here.
So that's gonna take everything off of,
I guess the IO shield of our motherboard and carry it.
Ah, hello, over here to this side where it can go.
Interesting.
Oh, what?
Power supply goes way over here?
No wonder they include extensions.
Now that's an odd choice.
You guys have got so much Z height here
and yet you opt for an SFXL power supply mount.
Why not full ATX?
I guess maybe that's something we can figure it as we go.
While there is a lot of molding,
there's definitely some areas where
the molding is pretty basic.
You can actually see that this mold here was modified
like mid production.
Probably they had to make some change to this right here.
And they just kind of hacked the additional material
out of the mold,
not really caring too much about the finish.
I'm not saying that that's a terrible thing.
You know, you don't necessarily want to just
add a bunch of cost to your product
because you've got scuff marks in your mold
that is on the underside of a desk or something like that.
But Apple wouldn't include it.
And it does affect kind of,
if you're gonna do it that way,
I expect the price to be reflective of that
is all I'm kind of gonna say about that for now.
Got a couple of power cables and then,
ah, I know what I'm looking at here.
This is the monitor arm.
Oh, bad news.
Because the monitor arm is visible
and there definitely are some tooling marks
and stuff on that.
Okay, but this is cool.
Oh, that's kind of neat.
The way that you can slide it,
the display port cable is pre-cable managed in here.
All right, we're gonna figure that out later.
And if you have a 24 inch monitor,
is that what we have?
We don't.
But it looks like if you have a 24 inch monitor,
you may very well be able to...
No, 27.
Does it fit?
Supports to 27.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
Your monitor goes in here, you close it up
and the whole thing is self-contained.
That's sick.
Your keyboard goes here
and presumably there's a recess somewhere or something for...
Okay, okay.
This is funky.
What appears to be a two and a half inch SSD,
like kind of hot swap mount here.
That's pretty wild.
So they've just got a cable pass through.
Here's power.
And then presumably there's data here somewhere.
Yeah, here it is.
And then you can just plug a drive in like that
if you really want to.
Given where it is,
I would rather see this also be three
and a half inch compatible,
but that's not a huge deal.
Okay, I am ready to make a final price prediction.
Okay.
Made in Finland.
Do we have the bleep button, Dan?
No.
Shoot.
Oh, that made in Finland.
You know what?
I'm ignoring the made in Finland.
No, I shouldn't ignore the made in Finland.
What do they mean by made in Finland?
Where's the box?
Is it designed in Finland?
Does Finland actually have a lot of legal protections
for the made in Finland word mark?
Or is this the kind of thing where they could actually do
a lot of the injection molding and tooling in China
and just kind of assemble it in Finland?
Which to be clear is not a bad thing.
Okay, I'm ready.
You wanted the price?
I'm saying 9.99 US.
Hit me.
You get one more guess.
It's higher.
It's higher.
Oh, crap.
12.99 US?
Triple it.
Three-
Hold on, you can't talk from off camera.
So you gotta come participate.
The unfortunate news is that this does cost 3,690.
3,600 US dollars?
Yes.
And that's just the-
That's just the damage.
That's just that.
If you want the rest of the computer, it's a lot more.
Huh.
This is a very fine blank T-shirt you're wearing.
Lttstore.com?
Totally reasonably priced too.
I know, right?
Not $3,600 for a shirt.
Wow.
Cool.
Let's build a computer.
Okay, that makes-
I'm ready to start the timer.
Okay.
I mean, it's cool.
I guess it really is made in Finland then.
So that's good.
That would help justify things a little bit.
All right.
Your time starts-
How's chat doing over here, you guys?
Actually, wait, I lied.
Not quite, not quite.
I'm ready to start the timer in a second
after I chat with the chat a little bit.
Guys, if you're new to LTT streams, hi.
We don't really do super chats.
We don't really do Twitch bits or anything like that.
If you want to interact with the stream,
the best way to do it is to send a merch message.
Go to lttstore.com,
pick up a reasonably priced blank T-shirt like this one
or a water bottle like this one
or any of the other great products we've got on there.
And in the checkout,
you're going to see a little box that says merch messages.
Leave a merch message,
whether it's a shout out for your SO or your mom
or whatever else.
It'll just pop up either in the bottom,
I think in the bottom, right Dan?
It'll be at the top actually today.
Cool, it'll pop up in the top.
And, or you can send in a question
or you can just kind of send in something inappropriate
and our producer Dan will block it
from ever being seen by anybody.
Blocked.
Those are the main options.
Is there anything that we're announcing right now
in particular or nothing like that?
No promos or anything?
Not that I know of, no, not at the moment.
All right, let's start my timer.
Starts.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, when the clock hits one.
When the clock hit, wait, what?
That's in an hour.
You want less time?
What do you mean it ends when the clock hits one?
Yes.
Okay, what are we waiting for then?
I don't know.
Okay, come on over here Andy, let's build a computer.
First up, we're going to be going
with the Ryzen 7, 7800 X3D.
Why would we do such a thing you might ask?
Because we just spent 3,600 chuffing dollars on a desk.
And gosh darn it,
if we're going to look the e-sports professional part,
then we better have the e-sports professional CPU.
It's the fastest gaping CPU on the planet.
And as long as it doesn't blow up,
$3,600 for a desk.
That's okay.
We're going to have some fun.
Am I supposed to have any talking points
for any of these parts?
Or am I just making the stuff as I go?
We've got lots of talking points you want to talk about.
So the whole idea is it's an e-sports build.
Yeah, it's an e-sports build.
Okay, that's fine.
I mean, I can ad lib it.
You can just say Linus, you've got nothing.
And I can work with that.
You've got mostly nothing.
I've got mostly nothing, that's fine.
I can work with that.
Okay, so come on over here.
Let's install a CPU.
Do you want me to raise the desk a little bit more?
Yes, we can do that.
It seems very Linus height right now.
I mean, I can raise the desk,
but actually I was thinking for you, Andy,
it'd be really nice to be able to kind of shoot down at this
and have a look at what we're doing here.
So we've got our AM5 socket motherboard.
AMD has just done such a bang up job over the last,
well, really quite a few generations
on their desktop products
of building upgradeability into their platforms.
So AM5 arrived with Ryzen 7000 series,
and it's already been upgraded to Ryzen 7000 X3D,
which dramatically boosts gaming performance in particular.
And the standout of all of the X3D products
is the 7800 X3D.
It's only eight cores,
but they are so ripping fast
that pretty much everything else on the market
gets left in the dust.
Of course, you've got to make sure
that you build a balanced build around it,
which is why we chose this memory
that I'm looking at for the first time.
So pressure's on, Adam.
I hope it's a perfect memory choice for an esports build.
We went with, oh, very nice,
DDR5, 6,000 megatransfers per second,
32 gigs by two, a 64 gig kit.
Okay, that's unnecessary for any esports title
that I'm aware of, but it sure is.
Is my RAM rattling?
Is that supposed to happen?
I hope so, because...
It's probably good.
Anyway, this is a CL30 kit, extremely low latency kit,
given the speed that it is operating at.
These are from G.Skill.
They're their Trident Z5 RGBs.
And while they're Intel XMP,
I'm not expecting that to be a huge problem for us,
because we should be able to just load that profile
using AMD's Expo memory profile tool
in this motherboard's BIOS.
All right, that's done.
Although we're working on an MITX motherboard,
which means installing that RAM may have been a mistake,
and it may end up getting in my way
when I try to install a cooler and try to put in my SSD,
which is what we're gonna do next.
I guess now's a perfectly good time
to talk about this motherboard.
This isn't my first time working with the Asus ROG Strix
X670e gaming Wi-Fi.
It's a really weird product.
I don't really know what else to tell you guys about it.
Like, check this out.
They packed so much VRM on here.
They packed so much SSD storage expansion.
Look, you've got like the parking garage,
the SSD equivalent of a parking garage.
Hey, your first M.2 is down here.
Your second M.2 is up here.
And then in here...
Yeah, there, on this little daughterboard here
is the second part of the X670e chip set.
So you've got one of AMD's chip sets here.
And then the second one that gives it
the additional PCIe Gen 5 lanes that makes it X670e
is on this weird little daughterboard here
that seems to exist only to power this top M.2 slot.
It doesn't seem to be connected to anything else.
It's a super, super weird product.
But hey, I don't make the rules.
To my knowledge, this is the only X670e ITX product.
Is that correct?
I think that's correct.
Don't quote me on that though.
I could be wrong.
There's honestly no real reason to use X670e
on a build like this though.
The major benefit of it is additional PCIe lanes.
And the only benefit of additional PCIe lanes
is that you can install more PCIe devices.
But this is an ITX motherboard.
How many PCIe devices are you planning to plug in
to your one PCIe by 16 slot?
Anyone?
Bueller?
One.
So really you'd wanna go B series motherboard
for a system like this.
Oh, you know what else you'd wanna do?
I guess is not bother reinstalling this top heat sink?
Neat.
Wow, this is a really bulky SSD.
It's got a back plate thing on it here
that interferes with using the tool-less mechanism.
That's very frustrating.
You have another one if you want.
Hey, no, no, I mean, no, this is PCIe Gen 5, baby.
Let's go.
Oh, and in order to get it apart,
I apparently need a Torx driver.
Do you have an iFixit kit handy?
There's one just behind you.
Dan, why don't you hit me with a merch message
while I get my Torx driver out
and I get my SSD disassembled
because that's the kind of thing that I can do
when I'm supposed to build a system in an hour.
Yeah, you're running out of time.
You better hurry up.
I'm hurrying, I'm hurrying.
Okay, so first up here is from Sterling.
Have you ever considered making a stubby version
of the cable straps?
I know I can cut the existing ones shorter,
but that feels janky and I don't want to.
All right, that's fair enough.
Okay, so my initial response is
you can just cut the regular length ones shorter, you know,
but you thought of that and you don't want to do that.
So I guess my followup response is yes,
we actually are planning to do additional lengths
of the cable ties.
What I suspect is that we would do longer first
just because you can't cut them long, right?
You can cut them short, you can't cut them long,
but it would be our intention to eventually flesh out
our offering with more lengths.
I don't know if we're gonna add any more colors.
If we did add more colors,
we'd probably remove some of the existing ones,
but we are planning to add more lengths.
Want to hit me with one more?
Sure, I got another one here.
Hello Linus and team, greetings from Germany.
I just wanted to quickly ask whether or not
you're planning to test microphones
for streaming or music production,
I guess at the labs, keep up the great work.
We are absolutely planning to test microphones in the lab.
I'm extremely excited.
Sam is our sound guy.
We're gonna be focused on headphones at first
and more consumer oriented products out of the gate.
But over time, you can absolutely expect
to see streaming products tested
in to the same degree of rigor as you would headphones
or motherboards or GPUs or whatever else it is
that we're after.
All right, here's my Gen five drive.
But the bad news is that my understanding
is that this top slot is only Gen four.
Is that correct?
Yeah, you have to use the lower.
I do have to use the lower sandwich one.
Oh, that's fine.
I can work with that.
Before we get any further, do we wanna move this desk up?
Dan's yelling at me in team's chat.
Oh, Dan's yelling at you about the desk being-
Yeah, we have a top-down camera
that's all supposed to be lined up.
Oh, I mean, you can get to that when you start like-
You can get to that when we get to that.
Okay.
Building in the computer.
Okay, this is hilarious.
He's just using it as a table.
Check this out, guys.
I'm just a little scared of Dan.
Giant heat sink, Gen five and chip set heat sink.
It's fricking heavy.
All right, let's get this drive installed.
And now that we've got all that crap removed
from the back and the front of it,
we should be able to slide this tool-less mechanism
into place, saving ourselves a lot of time.
And then we'll put this chip set back in and we should be-
Pull out.
Uh-oh, is that in?
I think it's in.
That switch has to-
So please use this one.
Please use that as well.
As well, it has the games.
Oh, it has games.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, I'm down.
Wait, is that another Gen five drive?
Wait, why do I need both of them?
Because why not?
Yeah, but-
You paid for a $3,000 desk.
Yeah, all right.
I have a $3,000 desk.
I might as well have two Gen five SSDs, sure.
So I've got a two terabyte T700 from Crucial on the bottom.
And then I have the Aorus Gen five, 1,000, 10,000, whatever.
I have Aorus as Gen five SSD on the top.
I got a Gen five SSD sandwich here.
Dan, hit me with another merch message.
Sure thing.
Hi, Linus and team again.
I was wondering if you're planning to make laptop
or tablet cases or sleeves, at least for common sizes.
Congrats on the quality improvements due to LTT lab.
Cases and sleeves, no.
But we are working on a laptop bag
that I'm really excited about, like a shoulder bag.
It's got a super comfy strap
and I think you guys are gonna be extremely pleased.
If you're the kind of person
who has to carry a laptop around,
but you don't necessarily want to have a chungus backpack,
it's gonna be the way to go.
Adam, do you mind on adding that?
Hey, this is great progress.
CPU motherboard, RAM SSD, and we are only 10 minutes in.
No problem.
Let's go ahead and get our motherboard installed
in the case.
Nope, I don't need any of that.
These are so long for an SSD.
They are long SSD screws.
All right, let's pop this open
and see if I can figure out how to do it.
There we go.
Let's move it up.
All right, let's move it up.
Moving it up.
I'm ready.
Okay, so just put your foot on the bar in the middle
and I'll put my foot on and we just pull up.
Really?
Yep.
Whoa.
That's supposed to make that.
That feels like it's breaking.
Okay.
How do we know that they're all at the same height?
We pulled it all the way up to the top.
I see.
So that's how we know it's at the same height right now.
Okay.
Make sure that the top-
It's in the thing, it's in the thing.
All right.
Cool.
Let's put the motherboard in, shall we?
Our PCIe riser goes here.
Man, there is all kinds of stuff here
that I wasn't really expecting to see.
It's pre-wired for ethernet too.
Super cool.
USB three goes somewhere, I guess.
Where the devil does this go?
Oh, oh, oh, interesting.
Our front IO is here.
And that seems to be handled.
Oh, no.
Our front IO is here.
Our rear IO is in the front.
So this is not accessible when the case is closed.
Got it.
Here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna take this and I'm gonna-
Oops.
I'm gonna pin it down here.
Then I'm gonna take this and I'm gonna pin that in there.
I'm gonna take my RGB lead
and I'm gonna deal with that later.
I'm gonna-
Oh my goodness.
Look at all these RGB leads.
Good gravy.
I'm gonna take all my RGB leads.
I'm gonna run them over there
because those are not my concern right now.
The ethernet can stick there for now.
And then we've got power.
Ah, this seems to be for this built-in hub.
So that my front USB or not front,
but other more different front USB three.
And then this is my DisplayPort cable for my GPU.
How on earth am I supposed to install this GPU?
I will figure that out.
That is gonna slow me down for sure.
Okay.
Very European.
Got the hex screws.
Cool.
That's gonna save some time.
Oh, oh, this is cool though.
Look at that.
That's something I haven't seen in a long time.
This appears to be a removable motherboard tray.
Got a little Phillips head thumb screw here.
Go ahead and pop that up.
And it-
Okay.
And we've got a thumb nut on a standoff over here
and we can just pop our motherboard tray off like that.
So we'll go ahead and-
Oh, I guess I'll need some standoffs.
What did I do with all the screws?
I must be here somewhere.
Ah, there they are.
Don't worry guys.
I can definitely do this in an hour.
Hit me with another merch message.
Sure thing.
Hey Linus, do you think we'll be seeing more consoles
with the new APUs popping up
or is the future handheld consoles with docks
considering how amazing the ROG Ally seems to be?
Hmm.
That's a good question.
Honestly, I think what we're bound to see
is Asus is gonna get a big first mover advantage
with the Ally.
I would imagine they've worked out
some kind of a deal with AMD
where they're taking substantial volume
of the new Ryzen Z1 Extreme.
And that's gonna lock them,
not necessarily lock them up with an exclusivity window,
but it will make it so that I don't think Asus
will reasonably be able to supply anyone else
for quite an extended period of time.
So whether they have an exclusive or not,
they're gonna end up with a kind of de facto exclusive on it
for quite a while.
With that said, for some of the lower volume players,
like the GPDs and Ioneos and 1X players of the world,
I don't think they need such a huge allocation of chips
that they wouldn't be able to at least
start their product development
and release a small quantity on Kickstarter or Indiegogo.
So with that in mind then,
I don't think anything would prevent them
from releasing competing products.
The big challenge is that this is gonna come down
to software.
And whether we're talking first-party software support
from Microsoft, where they actually alter windows,
whether it's adding a handheld gaming mode
or more unlikely, releasing a handheld gaming edition
of windows, or whether it comes in the form of a third party
and I guess I kind of have my first and third parties
sort of mixed around depending on how you view it,
but whether it comes from the OEMs themselves.
And I've seen some good efforts there.
Ioneos IaSpace was quite promising in the early days,
but from my experience with it,
it has either A, not progressed as much
as I'd like to see in some ways,
or B, actually regressed in other ways,
particularly with respect to the overall stability
and usability of it.
I haven't really been that happy with IaSpace lately.
OneX player doesn't have much in the way of software
that they integrate with their product.
And then Asus seems to be putting a lot of effort into it,
but Asus, God bless them.
I don't think they've ever written a piece of software
that I've found usable.
Armory Crate's a lot better now than it used to be.
AI Suite was the old branding for it and it was awful.
Like ruin your computer,
time to reformat awful in some cases.
And I remember having just the funniest call
with an Asus technical rep at one point.
This was back in probably the X79 days.
And I basically go, you know what, whatever,
I'll just name the individual.
I go, JJ, I love you, man, but AI Suite is awful.
And he goes, what's awful about it?
I'm sitting here, I got it.
Look, I know it's your job to drink the Kool-Aid,
but my dude, no, it's so bad.
It's a lot better than that now,
but I just, I have a lot of misgivings
about how good the software is gonna be on the Ally.
And that's speaking as someone who has had
hands-on experience with it leading up to the launch.
I think they've got a big uphill road ahead of them.
And if Microsoft doesn't step in and help with this,
it's gonna be a real challenge for handheld makers,
be they Asus or otherwise.
It looked like someone had kind of pre-configured
this cooler for me, but that is not actually the case.
All the Intel hardware was left at the top
and I need to go fishing for the AMD hardware.
Fortunately, we didn't have to fish for too long,
but it does look like there's gonna be a bit of work
converting the block to the AMD mounting hardware.
Let's go ahead and grab this here.
Dan, wanna hit me with a merch message
while I try to fumble my way through?
What even is this?
Oh, this is from Deep Cool, okay, cool.
Um, buh, um, ah, okay.
That's a lot of, wow, that's a lot of RGB.
Well, we don't need that for now.
We'll deal with that later.
All right, here we go.
Hi, first merch message.
With the labs being built,
will you redo the short circuit videos
to update the information on them
that may influence a purchase?
Wow, that's a really good question.
No, video production is so time-consuming and so expensive,
even at the scale that we're working at.
I mean, obviously this isn't, you know,
a Hollywood big budget production or anything like that,
but video, because of the difficulty of editing it,
just all the moving pieces,
is so expensive compared to text
that I just don't think it's realistic
for us to go back and re-prep,
re-shoot and re-edit and re-upload videos
that we have already done
or products that we have already covered.
I think what's far more likely is on those videos,
we might include a link in the video description
or a pinned comment to say that
we've done additional testing,
or even more likely is we will simply wait
for a next gen product to come out and replace it,
and then we'll go back and use that as an opportunity
to test not only the brand new product,
but also the original one,
and then we can include that data
when we review the updated product.
I'm actually really, really excited
about the future of ShortCircuit because I just,
I have this way of turning everything into,
making everything better whether I want to or not.
ShortCircuit was intended to be low production value,
just first impressions, unboxing videos,
they were supposed to take very little time,
and whether it's me or whether it's the team around here
or some combination of the two,
we just can't settle for that.
It's easy money, don't get me wrong,
unboxings are like the easiest money ever.
You just unbox it and people wanna see it,
and so they watch the video.
Like, boom, all you have to do
is get your hands on the thing, okay?
No problem, especially at the scale
that we're operating at now,
where LTT is so prominent in the tech industry, right?
All we have to do is call someone up and say,
hey, we wanna unbox your product on ShortCircuit,
and they're like, yeah, okay, here you go.
And there's no pressure to say a positive thing about it
or anything like that.
I'm not saying easy money in a scummy way,
I'm just saying that it's easy views, I guess is the point.
And so with that in mind,
we could just keep doing ShortCircuit
exactly the way we're doing it now.
We just, I don't know, we just have this compulsion
to do it better.
So ShortCircuit is gonna see a lot more data
integrated from the lab as time goes on,
with the goal being to turn LTT from reviews
into more like projects, more personality driven.
It'll have behind the scenes, it'll have,
oh, oh, roundups, okay?
Like that's something you're far less likely
to see on ShortCircuit is a detailed video
on who makes the best sub $40 power supply, right?
You might see a ShortCircuit video on one of those products,
but you're not gonna see the whole lineup
and the pros and cons and the explanations
of how we tested it.
That's gonna be reserved for LTT.
But ShortCircuit is gonna become less of an unboxing channel
and more of like a quick overview
with a sprinkling of review data.
And then it'll also hopefully act as a gateway drug
to get people over to the lab's website
where we wanna get into way, way more detail
about this stuff.
Really, really excited about the plan.
It's gonna take time.
I mean, I've had it observed lots of times,
both internally and from viewers in the YouTube comments
that, hey, the lab's gonna cost a lot of money
and take a lot of time to have any hope of paying off.
I know, it's gonna take a minute, but that's okay.
That's okay.
I think that once we're done and we'll never be done,
but once we're set up, it's gonna be a lot more,
it's gonna be a lot more clear what we were trying to do.
And it's gonna be a lot more clear why it's so important.
I mean, people don't even know what a review is anymore.
It's so frustrating for me.
And you see it everywhere.
You'll see something like, we'll post a sponsored video
and you'll just see a comment.
And someone's like, great review.
And I'm sitting here going, that is not a review.
And the fact that you think that that's a review
shows just how broken the ecosystem is.
Anything that is sponsored cannot be a review.
It can still be honest.
It can still be fairly comprehensive.
It can still be fun.
It can still be entertaining, but what it isn't
and what it cannot be is a review.
Never, because any sponsored piece of content,
whether they had any influence or not,
the sponsor has the right to influence that content.
And if they didn't have the right to influence that content,
you wouldn't have to call it sponsored.
So they're mutually exclusive.
And the idea here is to take this sort of low hanging fruit
unboxing content and kind of like sneak in substance.
It's like, man, I don't know.
It's like sneaking raisins into an oatmeal cookie
or chocolate chips.
Like you're still getting the oatmeal cookie,
but we want you to, or rather it's like,
okay, hold on, no, no.
It's more like sneaking Brussels sprout paste
into your chocolate bar.
So we suck you in with the chocolate bar.
It's very, it's tasty.
It's very snackable, right?
But then, oh, you accidentally learned a whole bunch
while you were watching that.
Got them.
That's the goal with short circuit.
That's where we're gonna be heading over the longterm.
And you've already seen some hints of it
if you've been paying close attention on the channel.
Like one of the things that we find with LTT
is that we can only review like a class of GPU.
We won't get the kind, we're at the point now.
I mean, look at the channel.
When we upload something, if it doesn't get 2 million,
two and a half, 3 million views,
it's dragging down our averages.
It's hurting us algorithmically.
And we can't do that because that hurts our overall reach.
That hurts our ability to pay our staff.
Look at this, look at all these people
who stand around and watch me make videos now.
That hurts our ability to pay our staff, right?
That hurts our ability to build the lab.
That's unacceptable.
So with that in mind, we don't have the luxury then
of kind of going, oh, okay.
Hey, I know we already reviewed the 7900 XTX,
but wow, this one that was released by XFX is really cool
and does some different stuff
and performs about 2% better.
How are we supposed to make, you know,
eight to 14 minute video?
That's kind of the average for an LTT on,
it's basically a 7900 XTX,
but it's got a really great cooler on it
and it performs two or 3% better.
That's it, that's a short, right?
You can't justify it.
So that's where short circuit comes in
because we can kind of take that more casual,
loose unboxing format.
We can include that extra information
and now we have ways of covering these cards
and these products that we otherwise
just wouldn't be able to justify.
We wouldn't be able to spend the filming time
and editing time on because they just wouldn't get
the viewership that we need to make them sustainable.
And I know this is all very like inside baseball-y
and maybe you guys would prefer to imagine
that everything's far more organic
and not like a business calculation or whatever else,
but I'm not gonna lie to you, right?
Like that's how it works.
There are realities that we're working around
and we're not doing ourselves any favors
by becoming uncompetitive.
So I don't think you guys, I mean, I hope,
I hope you guys don't want us to harm the LTT channel
and you guys can wait for short circuit.
This is pretty sucky.
This screw is not long enough to go through the fan.
Whoa!
Wow.
Well, that was bound to happen.
Oh!
Here's our first one.
Do you wanna replace it with an RGB fan?
Hey, good robust fan Deepcool.
Well, my bigger concern is I just don't think
these radiator screws are very long.
Yeah, look at this.
How am I supposed to get that through both a fan
and the rear panel of my case
or my radiator mounting bracket if that's what I'm using.
That can barely go through there.
I mean, do we have any RGB fans
that just use the standard RGB connector?
I don't wanna see any Corsair.
Love you Corsair, but your damn proprietary RGB connector
while much more robust
than the industry standard RGB connector drives me crazy.
It drives me crazy, you guys.
I don't know what to do with you.
There are alternative solutions.
Oh!
Yeah, we got the Lian Lees.
Oh, we got these Lian Lees.
The little magnet ones.
So we do.
Those are sick.
Yeah.
All right, yeah.
Yeah, let's use those.
Did you specifically have those so that we could use them?
Am I just not following instructions here?
I just wanted a nice RGB
because we got this beautiful window.
Right, that makes sense.
And then these have the little headers.
So you can daisy chain and they have a normal-
Sick, yeah, this is awesome.
Check this out.
Pogo pins to handle power and RGB.
So you only have to plug in one of the fans.
That is so cool.
Just awesome for wiring.
Okay, let's go ahead and peel these peels.
Although I am still concerned that these are-
Oh, really?
My peel starter here didn't grab the thing.
Okay, perfect.
That's good.
I am concerned that these screws
are still not gonna be long enough.
Yeah, that's borderline.
Do you mind grabbing me the radiator screws bin
from the screws bin?
Cool.
All right, well, in the meantime,
what I can do is I can put the motherboard tray in
and Dan can hit me with another merch message.
Yeah, I sure can.
I have multiple X3D and none X3D 79050X CPUs.
Wow, what a cool one.
79050X CPUs.
At first, I didn't mess with SoC voltage with overclocking.
I ran the CPU for about a month
and then changed my SoC voltage to 1.25.
Is my CPU degrading?
Okay, yeah, that's a really good question, actually.
The answer is yes.
From the moment it is birthed in the fab
to the moment it ultimately dies,
your CPU is degrading.
The way that manufacturers set their stock voltage,
their safe voltage is by running
like not just a couple of these CPUs,
but hundreds upon hundreds of these CPUs
in under various loads, under various conditions,
over an extended period of time
and observing the failure rate.
They then take that observed failure rate
and they extrapolate it
to kind of a longer, an even longer period of time
than they can test based on parameters that they've created.
So based on trends that they've observed in the past
and they create sort of the safe operating voltage range.
But just because you're at a safe operating voltage
doesn't mean that it's not degrading.
It's kind of like a safe RPM range for your car.
Like let's say you red line at 8,000 RPM.
So does that mean you can run at 7,999 RPM forever?
Well, no, obviously not.
If you ran at 2,000 to 3,000 RPM,
cruising along on the highway,
that engine is gonna last a lot longer, right?
And if you're constantly going low and high, low and high,
almost at the red line, but not the red line,
but almost at the red line,
well, it's not gonna last as long, right?
The question is just how much of that risk
are you comfortable with?
Are you the kind of person who's happier running
at exactly AMD's stock voltage, what AMD said was safe,
which AMD doesn't always get right,
see the recent controversy.
Or are you the kind of person
who wants to push a little harder,
knowing that based on that you have multiple
7,000 series chips kicking around,
you could just replace it if it dies.
I'm not saying that's necessarily, you know,
the most responsible approach,
but it's certainly an approach
and it seems to be one that you can afford.
So it all comes down to how much maintenance
you wanna do on your computer then at that point.
Go ahead and hit me, Dan.
Before we do that, let's see you with that.
It's a 30 minute warning.
30 minutes?
I can't even get this radiator mounted.
How on earth am I supposed to do this in 30 minutes?
Okay.
I can do better than, how on earth does this go in?
What the, how does this fit in the thing?
This does not seem to be,
are you sure this is for this fan?
Yes, fairly certain.
Fairly certain?
They were all together.
Uh huh, okay.
But I believe that you have to like,
connect it to a base thingy.
That clearly has to go in there.
Oh wait, I think I see it.
I think it slides down and then, no.
That's gotta, that's gotta go there.
Nope.
Okay, what?
Do you not, it's this, you go, you go,
oh my gosh, it isn't.
Why isn't this one?
Wait, what's this one?
This one's different.
Oh, hey, what's this then?
Ah, here we go.
This one.
Okay, phew.
It looks like they revised this at some point.
That was very scary.
All right, we're gonna take a different approach then.
I'm just gonna screw the radiator onto the bracket
with the short screws and yeah,
that's how we're gonna do that.
Cool.
Guess we're not going to be low maintenance on this one.
How are you configuring your airflow pad?
All right, Dan, hit me.
Oh yeah, okay, give me a sec here.
Just gotta cancel this, let's grab one for you.
Linus, it's been long enough.
We deserve to know who the Pyramid PC was for.
I've been dying to know for years now.
Ooh, should I say our top secret client.
Do you guys know?
No, I know you know, Nick knows, I know you know Andy,
but all the new blood, they don't know.
All right, big reveal.
This is what you guys get for watching me
for half an hour fumble with a radiator.
And I feel like that poor participant we had recently,
just working on this one thing for the entire video.
All right, it was for the,
I'm not gonna say the exact person,
but it was for a member of the leadership team at dbrand.
Because who else would do that?
Would write us essentially a blank check and say,
I want my computer to be in a pyramid.
I'm like, what?
Like Illuminati, I'm like, what?
Yeah, yeah, any PC, anything is fine,
as long as it's a pyramid.
Okay, that was pretty much how it went down.
And we agreed to build the finest Pyramid PC
we possibly could, and that's what we ended up with.
I'm actually really, really proud of that project.
Alex and the team did a fantastic job
considering all the logistical challenges
that took place at the time.
We were rendering the set space
and all this kind of crazy stuff
that you guys don't always see behind the scenes.
But sometimes I gotta tell you,
it is a miracle that we got our videos
across the finish line,
let alone in the kind of finished state
that they ultimately are.
Whew, okay, well, that seems really good.
Sure, let's do it like that.
Yeah, does that seem good?
That seems good to me.
Everything about this situation right now seems good to me.
Dan, hit me.
Sorry, just laughing at that motherboard
dangling by the tubes.
Good dangle.
Hey guys, I know you've talked about doing a laptop bag,
but what about a cross-body sling?
We are actually working on a cross-body sling.
The concept we had in mind for it
was kind of a Steam Deck slash ROG Ally holder
sling carry bag thing.
The problem is that there's such a range
of handheld gaming device sizes and shapes
that we're having a really hard time nailing down something
that fits all in one size.
And then what we're not sure about is,
okay, if we need to do multiple sizes,
is there a large enough TAM or a total addressable market
to justify creating multiple versions of this product?
Because what we're realizing is that
something like a Steam Deck
has absolutely no chance whatsoever
of fitting in something that's designed for,
say, the Switch OLED,
and something like the Switch OLED looks comical
in something that's designed for the Steam Deck,
like it's swimming in it.
So we just haven't found the right middle ground yet,
and I think what we're gonna do
is we're gonna focus on our laptop bag
and our messenger bag,
which this is the first time I'm mentioning it, I think.
And then once we've got that absolutely nailed down,
then we can maybe come back to the cross-body sling.
I think that's kind of how we're feeling about it right now.
All right, let's go ahead
and get our motherboard tray in here.
Ooh, in here?
Where is this gonna go?
I noticed that a Wild Nick Lite appeared,
and I assume it's something to do with LTT Store.
Is that a fair assumption?
He's gone.
He's disappeared again.
Back into the ether.
Okay, I need to keep track of these screws.
These are some, these are some,
look at this screw.
Got the lock washer on there and everything.
I mean, that's the kind of screw you get
when you spend $3,600 on your desk slash computer case.
Okay.
You get screwed like this and like this.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I mean, I'm not, look,
I'm not pronouncing any kind of judgment yet.
First, I wanna see how the build experience goes.
And so far, even though I haven't looked
at any instructions or anything,
it's been fairly intuitive.
Let's get this radiator in here now.
Yep, there's a little spot right here for that.
What cable is this?
Oh, that's my DisplayPort cable to kind of, yeah.
Ooh, yeah, that fits in there really nice.
Done it.
Oh, doesn't it?
Think so.
Think it fits in there nice.
Okay, where's the hole for this?
All of you.
Come on.
Oh yeah, there it is.
Good, excellent.
Okay, my radiator, oh.
Hmm.
I mean, it has to go on this way
because this is the side that has extra room
for the radiator tank.
Uh-huh.
Well, it'll have to kind of go like that, I guess.
That's not the prettiest thing ever.
I can live with it though.
Dan, hit me.
Sure thing.
Hey Linus, love all you work and commitment.
I'd like to know if the wooden PC desk you made
could be something you'd work with framework with
as a collab.
Oh, no.
Oh, wait.
Okay, well, hold on a second.
Depends.
It depends what you're asking.
If what you're asking is if framework
is gonna get into the desk business, the answer is no.
If what you're asking is if it had ever occurred to us
to take a framework,
particularly the upcoming 16 inch motherboard
and embedded in a desk,
yes, we are extremely excited to do a project like that.
And in fact, we may have a very, very special collab
lined up for that.
Whoever you think it is, you're right.
But I can't actually confirm that yet
because we haven't nailed down all the details.
There would be travel involved
and all kinds of little things like that.
So I don't wanna put any pressure on anybody.
If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
But I hope it works out.
And if it does work out,
I'm really, really excited about who it is.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Let's go ahead and get our case fans plugged in here.
I think we're probably gonna use...
Oh, wow, we don't have a ton of options.
So I guess we're gonna run under here.
This is a nice cable management space at least.
Even with the motherboard already installed,
it looks like I should be able to thread, nope.
Oh, I thought I'd be able to thread that
through to the other side.
I think the answer is no though.
That's fine, I can live with this.
I guess.
I mean, yeah, it's not great.
Oh man, no, I'd really like to run that under here.
Oh yeah, I can get that.
I can get that, no problem.
No problem, easy.
Awesome, Dan, hit me.
All right, here we go.
Let's try, yeah, how about this one?
Hey Linus, you are an inspiration to me.
What are some good sources not about YouTube
you've used to build a successful business?
Also awesome backpack and can't wait for your sack.
Oh, okay, cool.
Oh, right, I guess you ordered a tech sack.
That makes sense.
Man, business resources.
The best answer I can give for that
is that I just read a lot.
My Google News feed is almost exclusively tech news,
business news, whether it's like physical goods business
or whether it's just like management tips
and articles and stuff about that and celebrity gossip.
Because the second you click on one,
you wouldn't believe the behavior of Tom Cruise
on film set X, then your entire feeds
gets flooded with that stuff.
And if you click on it once, realistically,
you're probably gonna click on it again
because how did her goop business interfere
with her ability to do whatever Gwyneth Paltrow.
Like, I don't know, I'm a sucker.
I'm a sucker for that stuff.
So my new resolution actually very recently
is to never click on it, not even once.
And then I broke it immediately, not on purpose.
I accidentally clicked something about how something,
something, the MCU something and I'm like,
no, no, I don't want any more of this
because I'm wasting too much time
just reading garbage about crap.
As far as I can tell a solid 30% of these articles
are AI generated and you can tell.
They're just, they're repetitive
and they're not well-written and blah, blah, blah.
And so I hate just giving away,
giving away my attention to someone
who's not even willing to put the attention
into creating the content in the first place.
Even if the AI generated one is decent
and does actually tell me everything
I wanted to know about, you know,
Chris Hemsworth's latest workout or whatever, right?
So yeah, other than just kind of trying to stay up on things
like, you know, I'm constantly reading articles
about workplace trends, be they management or employee.
I do keep up on what's going on on r slash anti-work
and some of the kind of
anti-company sort of subreddits
just so that I have, you know,
some idea of where people's head spaces are at.
It doesn't necessarily mean that I agree
with every viewpoint that I read there.
Like obviously I come at it with multiple perspectives
having worked as an employee and as an employer,
but it's good to know, right?
It's good to know what's kind of trending,
what people are thinking.
You know, I don't want to get blindsided
by quiet quitting, right?
I don't want to wait to notice that a bunch of people
are not actually working anymore
and just kind of waiting to be fired.
That's pretty much how I do it, I guess.
You just have to kind of show an interest
and the almighty algorithm will keep feeding you
whatever you tell it you want to see, I guess.
You got about 15 minutes left.
I'm working on it.
I just plugged in my ethernet.
Yeah, that's the most important thing
to be putting in the computer right now.
Well, yeah, I do.
Yeah, okay, fine.
I have to do it in here because it's a pass-through.
I don't even know where the ethernet comes out.
Yeah, we'll find it later, I guess.
Do you want another one?
I don't know where I'm going to put this RGB doodad
because I don't want to see it through the top,
but it's got this mess of cables on it.
I could just stick it over onto the other side.
Here, would you guys mind taking this plus?
Here's my mounting hardware.
All right, see you later.
Do you want one of these?
Cool, thanks.
I mean, yeah, yeah.
Ooh, a cable tie, lttstore.com.
Reasonably priced, very well reviewed.
People love our cable ties.
In fact, pretty much everything on the store
is like four and a half stars or better.
Let's say 4.3 stars or better.
I don't want to falsely represent anything.
All right, Dan, hit me.
Sure thing, let's get back to it here.
I'm not making this better.
What is the largest bottle size you'd like to make
before you stop making even bigger bottle sizes?
I think we're done at 64 ounce.
I think that's quite large.
I think that's enough large.
I mean, you could make one the size of those like,
you know, workplace water cooler bottles.
Yeah, I mean, we could.
I think if it was a vacuum insulated one,
like the rest of them, it would weigh a flipping ton.
You could put a handle on each side.
I'd say something more likely for you to see from us
would be some kind of like modular water bottle system.
What that means, I will allow you to imagine.
That hurts my brain.
Here's a fan extension.
Where did this come from?
Uh-oh, hopefully not from these.
Okay, okay, so CPU fan, all right, this.
Okay, good, I've got my radiator fans installed.
I've got my pump RPM monitor installed.
I've got these cables, these cables, oh boy.
Getting frazzled here.
I've got these tubes installed.
I've got this jammed in here.
All my RGB is hooked up.
We are making progress here, guys.
Okay, 24 pin extension goes in now.
Ooh, these are really nice cables.
Wow, are those ever flexible.
Whoa, that's sick.
You know, what cost me was everything.
Could those power cables come with the system?
It seems like they come with the system.
They look like silicon wire.
I've got, yeah, these are, yeah, these must,
you're probably right,
these must be silicone insulation on them.
Yeah, that's what you're getting for your four grand.
I want all cables to be that.
I love that stuff.
Those are so nice.
I don't have an extension for the eight pin
because it seems like that's close enough
to the power supply that I won't need it.
Ah, but what I do need is this little daughter board.
Adam, can I trouble you?
This motherboard has this super funky little,
here it is, little daughter board that hooks up to it
with two USB-C connectors.
And then off of those two USB-Cs,
you get apparently enough pins for SATA, dual USB-2,
and the front panel IO.
Hopefully you got close enough to that, Andy,
because I am running out of time.
I have 13 minutes to finish this build.
Dan, hit me again.
Sure thing.
Do you think the recent problems with AMD X3D
and 7900XTX overheating will be a growing trend,
or will we see them double down on quality assurance
and quality control and working with partners
to limit launch issues?
That's really hard to say.
And the reason for that is that we are headed into,
I mean, this is always kind of the case
with cutting edge technology, right?
But we are headed into really unproven territory, right?
Like this is uncharted.
These new process nodes that are so small
that the rules of physics as we knew them before
are no longer applicable, right?
So no, I don't think that we are headed
into greater reliability,
but I also have a certain amount of trust
in the quality control of AMD and Intel.
I mean, the fact that they managed
to create these products at all,
I think is a truly impressive,
a truly impressive show of their engineering prowess.
I think the fact that we haven't seen more of it
gives me some faith, but that's all it is, faith.
I have no actual factual evidence
to support a theory that they will continue
to do a great job of this engineering
and manage to make these products reliable at all.
No, maybe things will get worse.
We just, we have no way of knowing.
That's why I always encourage people not to be fanboys
or fangirls or fan whatever, right?
Because everyone can make a mistake.
Intel's had duds, AMD's had duds, you know, hard drive.
Hard drive manufacturers were a big one for a long time
where there are some general trend lines
that you can follow where some hard drive manufacturers
have a tendency to be more reliable than others.
But you can see from the data from Backblaze,
anyone can make a stinker.
And a lot of the time, the reliability evaluation
that they're doing on these products
is based on extrapolated data
because they're not actually testing a product
for five years to see how it does over five years.
They don't have five years in the product development cycle.
So knowing that, we know that everything's
kind of the best guess, and we just hope
that the people guessing are a lot smarter than us,
and sometimes they are, and sometimes they are,
but they make a mistake.
You have 10 minutes,
and you have not installed a monitor yet.
I am doing my best, okay?
I am installing my front panel headers, Adam.
Dan, do you wanna hit me?
Yeah, sure, absolutely.
Let's get back in here.
Installing my power LED.
That's very important, yeah.
Sticks up so far from this motherboard.
This is ridiculous.
Yeah, having the RGB is probably a requirement.
Okay, let's see.
Yeah, I can't exactly say I built it
in the same amount of time as them
if I don't include the RGB.
No.
Right now, I'm curious about sustainability
and green solutions, products from biowaste,
solid state batteries, thermal battery fusion, et cetera.
Any new sustainable or green developments
that stand out to you?
Oh, wow, man.
I mean, you mentioned a huge one.
I would love to see, wait.
Did I have to plug in this extension at all?
Are you kidding me?
This reaches just fine.
It's right here.
Here's my front.
You know what?
I'm leaving the extension.
I don't even care.
Power, wait, what?
Power LED, yeah, power LED, there, fine.
Yeah, solid state batteries look like
they're gonna be a really big one.
Not just solid state, but any battery technology
that's less reliant on some of these
really, really awful metals that they're mining
to build current packs right now.
That would be great, thanks.
I'd love to see solar finally make sense
anywhere other than Texas,
places that you don't necessarily get sun all year round.
But right now, it's just not efficient enough
to make a ton of sense, especially here
in the wet coat, here on the wet coast
where we get more rain than sun.
Okay.
Yeah, really, anything to do with sustainable energy?
Okay, my friend USB goes here.
Oh, am I gonna?
Oh, okay, how does this thing plug in?
Oh, good, another RGB header.
I have five RGB plugs in this system.
That is wild, and I'm not even done yet, I don't think.
Maybe I am.
This one's daisy-chain-able.
How does this go on?
Oh, I guess it doesn't really matter.
Cool, so it just goes on like that.
And then that goes like that.
Hey, awesome.
And then this, I'll plug it into my RGB hub there.
It's nice that they include an RGB hub.
Although, again, for the price.
Yeah, that's sort of bare minimum.
Anywho.
Okay.
Cool.
This is more progress than it probably feels like, guys.
I've got all my front panel fidgety stuff,
or finicky stuff hooked up.
I don't see anywhere to plug in my front panel audio,
to be honest with you.
I don't know how that works on this motherboard.
Adam, does this motherboard have front panel audio?
Do you know?
It's probably better.
I mean, I would- Is it in the same weird spot?
I would think so.
Where it's like on the...
I super duper don't see it.
That's USB.
Nope, nothing there.
You think that maybe they included some sort of paper
that had information on it that would tell us
our things about it? Oh my.
So you're gonna be like that.
So you're gonna be like that.
I'm just wondering if maybe they did.
Oh, I see you found it.
Yes, I was using the manual before.
Thank you very much.
This guy.
Internal IO.
I mean, it says front panel header.
No.
No, sir.
I don't believe this has front panel audio.
Oh, you know what it is?
It comes with a USB DAC.
Oh.
So this is your audio interface for them.
We lost something in the case.
Well, that's cool.
Thankfully, I have the LTT source screwdriver
complete with strong magnet.
There's your screw.
Interesting that that was with that bag.
Okay.
Well, I'm not gonna use that.
So.
See you later.
See you later, buddy.
Cool.
This is great progress.
You have five minutes.
Look, I am...
I just wanna give you the most information possible.
Pick up the pace.
Look how few things are on that table still though.
Okay.
The whole GPU.
You got a monitor, you got a pair of headphones,
you've got a GPU.
Okay.
Well, okay.
You've got power fans to put in, power supply.
You gotta do the entire power supply routing.
If you wanna do more than criticize,
you can unbox the monitor.
That should have been done already.
Our policy for live streams is no cases in boxes,
no monitors in boxes.
Unboxing monitors in cases
contributes absolutely nothing to live content,
which is really funny because unboxing monitors in cases
used to be pretty much the lifeblood of the channel.
How far we've fallen.
How things change.
Far we've fallen.
Start shooting outside again.
That's not fair.
I mean, I'm down.
Park bench, let's go.
I'm down.
It's so nice out today.
Working around the lousy weather in Vancouver though
was a real challenge.
That's why if you watch the videos back in the old days,
you would often see that without any wardrobe or set changes
that is to say I was wearing the same clothes
in the same place.
We'd upload four, five, six, eight videos in a row.
Yeah, not an accident.
That's cause I had a nice day outside
and I was able to take advantage of it.
All right, we've got return of these thumb screws here
to remove what appears to be a little cooling shroud.
All right, yeah, that's more molded parts.
That definitely contributed to the cost of this thing.
Hey, there it is.
Made in Finland, uneven.
Okay, our SFX power supply.
This is an 1100 watt power supply.
I mean, I guess if we got 3,600 bucks to spend on our desk,
we can afford this.
Sure, I could pull this bracket out, but I don't have to
because I have a prototype stubby version
of the LTT screwdriver.
Yes, so excited, chance to use it.
Come on, come on out little buddy.
That's what I call him, I call him my little buddy.
There he is, so cute.
I think the team is still trying to launch this
around the LTX timeframe.
That would be kind of amazing
because they also have some like new colors and stuff
that they're trying to launch of the full-sized one.
Or wait, have we talked about that before?
Maybe, a little bit.
Either way, check this out.
Stubby screwdriver, here we go.
Does that have an injection molded handle
or is it still a prototype?
No, this is a 3D printed handle.
We just have way better 3D printers now.
So we can build fully functioning prototypes
just with 3D printed hardware.
And it's nylon too, right?
The same material as the screwdriver.
Frickin' awesome.
It's incredible.
That is how we do it.
Can start the screw with just with the ratchet
because of the low back force.
All right, get in there, get in there, buddy.
Hey, awesome.
Hit me, Dan.
One minute.
No, no, no.
This will be the longest minute ever, you'll see.
Adam, unplugged the clock.
Okay, let's see what we got here.
A few weeks ago, you talked about upcycling products
like putting old electronics in resin as coasters.
Wouldn't this make the resulting product
virtually unrecyclable?
What are your thoughts?
That's a really good point.
The resin one, I have to confess to you,
that had not occurred to me.
I mean, our goal was to just keep it out of the landfill,
not so much necessarily worry about
if there was a way for it to ultimately
not end up in the landfill.
I mean, I can tell you that recycling is in many cases
not as efficient or eco-friendly
as you might hope that it is.
So it's not necessarily better.
If we can just keep it out of recycling or refuse,
that might be better.
And if it's something that could be used almost forever,
like a coaster, coaster never goes bad.
I see that as a pretty okay compromise,
but we do have-
Sorry?
Time's up.
Oh, well, all right.
Okay, so I couldn't do it in an hour.
What do you want?
Did my best, okay?
I also had to entertain the people.
That's okay.
One of the other products we're working on
in a similar vein is
like an up-cycled CPU fidget spinner toy.
And that I don't think would prevent it
from being recycled in a conventional means.
So that's definitely something that we could keep in mind
as we develop new ideas.
Whether we actually ever managed
to launch any of those products, I mean, I don't know.
We've wanted to do it for a long time
and it's taken this long
and we still haven't launched anything.
So who knows whether it ever even sees the light of day,
but that's definitely something
that we can try to keep in mind.
Okay, maybe this could go here.
It's like, huh, my stock 24 pin is too short to reach.
But this extension is so long that it's kind of ridiculous.
I think I could, I don't know, like it's just all wasted.
Oh, I can't get it in.
Okay.
Wow, that's a really tight fit.
You know what?
I think I'm gonna take up the slack on the other side here.
I don't like seeing all that slack
in my windowed compartment.
Yeah, we're a team's office.
A team's office?
Yeah, okay, sure, thank you for that.
Someone ding the bell.
Where's the bell?
I wanted to add another one, but yeah, I don't know.
Check, please.
Check, please.
Okay.
It's okay, I use both.
Wonk.
Oh, how is this gonna work?
Huh, any cable management I do in here.
Ow, bit me.
Any cable management I do in here
needs to not interfere with this mechanism.
Oh, you know what?
No, they've actually done a pretty darn good job
of keeping that clear.
As long as I can stuff all my cable mess in here,
I think we're good to go.
There's a little cover here that sits
and keeps this from bothering my cables.
Okay, good.
That's really good news.
Let's go ahead and do our 8-pin CPU power connector.
Where are you at, buddy?
Oh, up here, baby.
Hit me, Dan.
Sure thing.
Hey, Linus, long time fan of the channel.
What has been one of the hardest videos to shoot?
Oh, it sounded like you were gonna keep talking there.
No.
One of the hardest videos to shoot.
Man, I'd say that April Fool's video was pretty challenging.
That was, well, not challenging for me, necessarily.
The team did an amazing job of lining everything up.
I've gotta especially, not just Riley,
but I've gotta especially give Riley kudos for that.
He and Jacob from the linked team did an amazing job.
They had a lot of help as well.
But yeah, shout out those guys
for making it fairly painless on my part.
For me, I'd say some of the most grueling
were definitely the early build guides
because back then, actually the first one
and probably the first ones,
I think maybe the first two were not scripted at all.
So if I screwed up even the smallest thing,
I had to do the whole thing kind of from memory.
And I believe I built,
so I changed the way I did build guides a lot of times.
In the beginning, I would talk about what I was about to do
and then I would do it.
Or no, I would, I don't remember.
Either way, the two ways that I've done it in the past
are either I talk about what I'm about to do
and then I do it and we get B-roll
or I do it and we get B-roll
and then I talk about what I did.
So whichever one it was that I started with was harder.
That was worse because I had to,
and especially when I wasn't scripting them,
I had to remember absolutely everything.
And if I didn't remember absolutely everything,
I would ultimately end up having to go back and redo it,
which was a nightmare.
So I'd say a lot of the early build guides
were really challenging.
You know what?
There's an obvious answer here.
Even though it wasn't a ton of work for me,
by far the most grueling video that we've ever created
is how to build a PC, the last guide you'll ever need.
Yeah, Andy behind the camera nodding his head.
That was a full team effort, just about killed us,
just about got canned multiple times
during the production of it.
Count the shots.
If you're ever bored or high
and looking for something to do,
count the shots in that video.
It's mind blowing, absolutely mind blowing
because we set out not just to show how to build a PC,
we set out to show how to build every permutation of a PC.
I think what we'll probably end up doing,
even though that video's got seven,
eight million views or something already,
like it, huh, at least it worked.
It was a bit of a slow burn.
Like when it first got released,
some of the people who worked on it
expressed some dissatisfaction with,
how challenging that process was
and how unrewarding it felt after all that time
and not feeling like it was a huge success.
And I kind of went, hey, just chill.
How to build a PC is not the kind of thing
that the regular audience needs to know.
How to build a PC is the kind of thing
that the YouTube audience who needs to know
how to build a PC is gonna find.
This is gonna be a slow burn, trust me, bro.
And I was right.
It's done really, really well in the longer term.
And I think everyone who worked on it
is feeling pretty validated at this point.
But I think that you're probably,
because of how much work it was,
you're probably likely to see us milk it
even more in the longer term.
And I think one of the ways that we'll do that
is once enough things change,
I could see us going back and doing V2
where we reuse the vast majority of the footage
from the original and we more like amend it
to add the AM5 socket, for example,
or Intel's upcoming Meteor Lake socket
or whatever the case may be.
This is interesting.
This RTX 4090 doesn't make it
all the way down to the screw down.
Oh, there it goes.
Sure.
I don't know.
I also have some concerns about
whether I'm gonna have enough PCIe connectors here.
I think I might have enough coming off the power supply.
We got adapter.
But I certainly don't have enough of these extensions.
Wait, wait for it.
Oh, shoot.
This happened on our last live stream.
So here's the thing.
Yeah, but I don't have enough eight pins.
No, see, that's the thing.
Oh, wait.
No, this is the right one.
Oh, sick.
Oh, this power supply has the new, okay.
There's a version of this 12 pin connector
that is only 12 pins
that doesn't have the additional four pins.
So really, even though only 12 of them
are involved in power delivery,
this is more like a 16 pin connector.
No, no, I don't want that.
Oh, I was just giving you an example.
Oh, well, yeah.
The problem is just that I don't have enough extensions
for this one.
Sorry.
I need four extensions.
Is that an extension?
It's a long one.
This is not an extension.
They don't have an extension.
Oh.
I don't know if we have any extensions of the 12.
Oh, okay.
Well, anyway, we ran into an issue on our last stream
where we were using a 12 pin one
that didn't have the additional four sense pins
and it wasn't working.
And I just, I blanked on it.
I was like, oh, this should be working.
But 40 series wants the sense pins.
And that one would only work on a 30 series card.
Thank you, Nvidia, for your proprietary,
stupid power connector.
I mean, it's probably not stupid.
I'm sure the engineers who designed it
who are much smarter than me did a really, really, really,
really, really good job or whatever.
But it's inconvenient from an inter-compatibility standpoint
to have this power connector that only Nvidia uses.
I'm really glad that I can run just one cable though.
That's certainly convenient for a build like this.
Look at that.
It's, actually don't look that closely at that.
That is not the world's greatest cable management.
Man, I went and I raved about how amazing the quality
of these extensions was and I barely got to use any of them.
I only used the 24 pin and I mostly hid it away.
All right.
Well, that's fine.
I mean, the more cables we can hide, the better, right?
Oh boy.
I mean, you know, that really doesn't work.
I really don't like this.
Hold on one sec.
Dan, hit me.
Sure thing.
Do you think the technology industry should chill out
and start releasing stuff less frequently?
Do we really need a new generation of CPU's and GPU's
and phones every single year?
That's a good question.
I don't want to see iteration for the sake of iteration,
but the flip side of that is you're going to ask me
a tech enthusiast if I want to see less progress
and I'm going to be like, no.
So that's tough.
I mean, if we can build a better thing,
why wouldn't we build a better thing?
The better thing will be more useful
for more longer theoretically, right?
We'll use less power.
We'll do more performance with the same power,
you know, whatever the new design goals are, right?
Would you trade like fewer releases, but more progress?
So like if it's two years between releases,
but the gaps end up being bigger
because they're not wasting all these resources
to release a product that's just a half step.
Well, see, that's a good question too.
But the thing is that a lot of product development
in the tech industry is very iterative.
So they take steps and every step
that is feasible to productize, they do.
And they take that money that they make on that step
and they put it into another step.
That's the circle of tech life, right?
And so in theory, yeah, it'd be great to take bigger steps.
And if we don't have to do them so frequently,
so we can have a more, you know,
a more chill, relaxed upgrade cycle.
I mean, I guess, yeah, that's good.
But the thing is that you also got to take responsibility
for the part that you play in this.
Just because an upgrade cycle is there
doesn't mean that you have to buy it.
You can just not.
So you can create your own bigger jumps less frequently
if that's what you desire.
Nothing prevents you from doing that.
And that's what most people do.
I mean, the most,
I forget what the most common upgrade cycle is
for a desktop, but it's like four or six years
or something like that.
Very few people are out there going,
oh, Ryzen 7,000 just launched.
I need to throw my Ryzen 5,000 in the garbage
and get a new one.
And it's always, it's always funny to me
because you'll particularly see it in the tech press, right?
You'll have reviewers talking about upgrading
your last gen product.
That's not what people are doing.
People are upgrading their several generation old product.
Maybe.
They're thinking about it.
Anyone who has a last gen product,
unless they evaluate the stuff for a living
is not even remotely interested in upgrading
immediately after they just bought something.
That's like, it's like a car reviewer saying,
oh, you know, here's the new golf, whatever.
So those of you who have the last year's golf
or if you're looking to upgrade,
here's what you can look for.
What? No.
No, people upgrade on a cycle and with a car,
you know, it's gonna be more like five or 10 years,
15 years even.
Okay.
So I say you are the master of your own destiny
and don't do anything just because you felt pressured by,
you know, YouTubers building sick e-sports gaming machines
or on stream or whatever in desk cases that cost $3,600.
You don't have to buy any of that stuff.
You especially don't have to buy a desk case
that costs $3,600.
Dan, hit me.
Sure thing.
Hey, Linus been watching LTT roasts videos lately.
And I've been thinking, how about a YouTube
or float plane subscribers roast LTT?
And I'm not talking about mean comments,
but like video roasts from subscribers.
Video roasts.
So we roast their videos?
No, I think they roast you.
They send in videos and we compile them into a roast.
How do I say this in the most respectful possible way?
Most people aren't very good on camera.
Some of you are amazing and have blown us away
with your personalities and your creativity
and just, oh man, just incredible.
Most people are not very good on camera though.
And so what we do whenever we do any kind
of video entry contest or event or anything like that
is we create a lot of work for ourselves.
I still remember back when the channel was much smaller,
did it even have a hundred thousand subscribers?
I'm not sure.
But I did this competition called unbox yourself.
And I intentionally limited the video length
to I think 30 seconds with the goal being
that I wouldn't spend too much time watching these entries
because back then I had to watch all this stuff personally.
I didn't have like anyone to do that for me
or anything like that.
And they were great.
A lot of my favorites have since been pulled
off the platform, which is really unfortunate.
I wish I'd archived them because they were so cool.
But what I realized back then even was
that it was just not feasible.
Well, what I realized was most of them sucked
and it was just not feasible to watch video entries
from people, from the community.
There's just, there's just too many
and there's a lot of garbage to sift through.
So it's really challenging.
I think that's the unfortunate reality
for this particular suggestion.
It's a really cool idea, but like so many really cool ideas,
once it makes its way into the real world,
it just kind of falls apart.
Yeah, you can just stick to roasting us in the comments.
Yeah, the comments are fine.
You can always roast us in the comments.
We do read them.
Yes, we do.
Yeah, if you wanna hurt our feelings,
YouTube comments are the best place to do it.
You heard it here first, the hooks.
Okay, let's see.
What are your top upgrades you'd like to see
for the next stream deck?
OLED, better battery, better battery.
Well, you're gonna go answer the question for me.
OLED. Hold on.
He said stream deck.
Oh, no, steam deck.
It's gotta be steam deck, yeah.
It has an R in it.
Oh, it's stream deck.
It has an R in it.
He definitely, no, it says steam deck later.
Okay, do you want it to have OLED,
battery, battery management, bigger screen?
What can a steam deck competitor do
to get an edge over valve?
Yeah, I mean, I think that ASUS has done a really great job
of identifying the key weaknesses of the steam deck.
The ROG Ally is smaller.
It's got a high refresh rate display, which is,
oh, man, it's so great.
Playing a game like Hollow Knight at 120 hertz,
honestly, I would rather stream Hollow Knight,
like using Moonlight or something like that,
or Steam Link, the Steam Link app.
I would rather stream over my network
at 120 frames per second than play locally at 60.
Honestly.
Scout's honor.
It's just so much of a better experience.
An OLED display would be colossal for me.
I just, I love that high contrast look
that you get with OLED.
Better battery life is, that's a tough one, right?
Because I think the obvious answer to better battery life
is to just, let's flip on this power supply switch
before we, oh, it doesn't have one.
Okay, so it's on as soon as it's on.
That's a tough one, right?
Because one way to do that is to just huck
a bigger battery in it,
but that's not necessarily the right solution
because a bigger battery is gonna be a double-edged sword.
It's gonna make it heavier.
And that was something that I really noticed
with the Logitech, what's it called?
The G Cloud?
Is that what Logitech's little streaming only thing
is called?
G Cloud.
Yeah, the G Cloud was, man,
I did not miss the weight of the Steam Deck.
It made a way bigger difference than I expected.
So I don't necessarily just want a gigantic battery
in my device, especially after having that experience.
So I'd like to see better battery life,
but I'm sort of open when it comes
to exactly how they do it.
Can this go in, please?
Hello?
Ow.
Ah, bit me.
There.
Okay.
I think this used one of these funky thumb screws.
Hey, I'm making progress.
You're doing great.
Yeah, thanks.
You're only 20 minutes over time.
Hey, hey, look, look.
I'm doing great.
I'm taking that first thing you said
and I'm running with it.
I don't know if I'm doing a better job than them.
This is not,
I wouldn't describe this as easy to build in.
So far, it's pretty okay,
but I'm coming at this as someone who's built
at least a hundred PCs.
I don't know how many exactly.
Dan, hit me again.
Oh yeah, sure thing.
Let's see.
A couple of candy.
I plugged in the PCA riser.
Let's cut to the overhead.
If I close this, let's get it.
I do not like that water tube that just
gets mashed down like that.
Yeah, this block causes a lot of complications
because you would be able to wrap it.
Really?
Like you could just wrap it around.
You say that as the person who chose this block for me.
Yeah.
So who would wrap it?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm just going to, I'm going to kind of just mash it.
Oh, can I get this between the Ram and the thing?
Oh, okay.
This is one of those do as I say, not as I do moments.
I'm not going to say to do that.
Don't do that.
Don't some like duct tape or something.
Okay.
You get it around the, the other side of the wall.
That's actually pretty good.
Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to, sure.
Yeah.
Whew, you want to get a closeup of that Andy?
It's pretty sketch.
It's just, it's in there.
Yeah, it's kind of, it was kind of in there.
Yeah, yeah, that's no problem.
All right, Dan, hit me.
Yeah, that looks, that looks perfect there, buddy.
Okay, let's see.
Hey guys, long time watcher.
Have you, or do you ever plan on messing
with Nvidia grid setups?
I'd love to, but the issue with messing around
with a grid setup is that Nvidia is not going to just send
that to us to play with.
So we would have to buy it.
And if we're going to buy it, well,
that's way outside of our individual video budget.
We couldn't, we couldn't possibly hope to make that kind
of money or anything even close to it off of a single video.
So we can't buy it for a video.
So we'd have to have a legitimate use for it.
And the reality of it is that we just don't have
a legitimate use for that.
So it's a cool idea, but a cool idea
that I just don't think is happening.
What have we gone with for our monitor here?
Is this the, is this the 240 Hertz OLED?
It is, it's the brand spanking new one from LG.
Wow, that's pretty sick.
All right, I mean, can't complain about that.
What I could complain about is the situation
for setting up the mount here.
Do I just have to, what, lift this thing up
and then kind of, oh wait, no, no, here's an idea.
Okay, yeah, we go this way.
Cool, don't worry, I got this, I got this, I got this.
I promise not to drop this monitor.
Okay, listen, I'm not gonna be mad about it if it breaks.
The orientation that I need to eventually land in
is this, right, because it needs to go like this.
It needs to come up and it needs to be like that.
So this is the bottom, which means that I need it
to be like this, like that, if I want to do this.
No, that is simply not going to work.
Okay, just need to bring up, nope, I got this.
I don't even need any help.
I can do this in under an hour.
This looks like every morning
when we wait for you to get into the office.
Oh yeah, I'll be there at nine.
Yeah.
This meeting will only take 20 minutes.
When did I ever claim I'd be somewhere at nine?
No one's ever gotten me on the record
saying I'll be somewhere at nine.
Look, you guys might be judging me right now,
but here's the thing.
Whenever I show up at nine, they're not ready for me.
Yeah.
So I just end up staying late anyway.
So if I have to stay late anyway,
then I might as well do emails
or take care of some stuff at home first and then come in.
And it is kind of nice to have like a half hour
to an hour without you around.
Yeah, thank you for that.
Oh, you're welcome.
That's okay, I never see it anyway.
It was funny, James was going through,
James was giving me a particularly hard time
about me not being in early enough.
So I had a week where I came in like very, very on time
and every single time they weren't ready for me.
I was like, okay, so are you gonna keep giving me
a hard time about this?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I can see that happening exactly just like that, yeah.
Yep, it is what it is.
I mean, the thing is like, there's a lot of moving pieces
and back to what I was saying earlier
about how video production is really expensive,
it's because there's a lot of moving pieces.
There's a lot to coordinate and there's no such thing
as being completely ready.
I think we can continue to improve.
There's always things that you can do
to try and do better every day, right?
But it's almost never ready to go first thing in the morning
and I understand that.
So it's easier for me to just get some other stuff done.
That's all.
Okay, DisplayPort, you know what?
Yeah, okay, fine.
I didn't finish in an hour, but we are at what?
An hour and 24 minutes?
I'm close, I'm close.
Let's try out this mechanism here.
So what are we looking, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Oi!
Okay, just give it a little, give it a little, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
That's supposed to fit.
Dimensions, technically.
They have a list of approved monitors.
This one is not approved?
No.
Yeah, I can see why.
I think the issue with this one,
I think the issue with this one
is that the IO comes off the rear.
So even though this is a right angle DisplayPort cable,
it's interfering with this bottom piece.
And the funny thing about this bottom piece
is it totally doesn't have to be here.
See, this is just sitting here.
So I think what we could probably do
is make a little cutout where this DisplayPort cable lands
and I bet we could make this one work.
Can you not just unplug the DisplayPort cable temporarily
while you put it away?
You could also unplug it, I guess,
but that's not the whole idea of the product, Dan.
That makes sense.
The whole idea of the product is it's grab and go.
Yeah, just push down on that.
Push it down, geez, man.
Andy, do you wanna just like sit on the corner?
No, that's what's good about OLEDs.
They're really robust.
You just kinda-
Yeah, especially the glass on the front of it.
Yeah.
I love this.
This is great.
I'm just messing with you guys.
There's a recess in the top.
Even though it's not perfect and it doesn't really fit,
it's not actually contacting the panel itself,
I don't think.
It really might be.
It's touching it.
Yeah, it's touching it.
I can confirm it's touching it.
Cool.
Here you go.
Do you have power plug in?
All right.
No, I do not have power for my monitor yet, but I will.
What's behind?
Very soon.
What's behind you?
I got two.
No, these are the power plugs that were in there.
No, LG is always different.
Oh no.
Okay.
Where the devil are you supposed to put a brick?
I hope they thought of this.
Let's see if we can figure this out.
If you pull it back-
No, no, no, I got this.
I got this.
I got this.
Don't even trip, dog.
Okay.
Don't even trip.
Power brick.
Wow.
Well, you know what?
This spot kind of looks like a little hidey hole.
Maybe I could go in here.
No.
Where did the cables come out?
Oh, interesting.
There's like a little power box here.
Now I assumed this back thing was for cable management
and whatnot earlier,
but I never really confirm elated that.
I don't know where this came from.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I'm just, I'm trying to work out here.
Andy, come on, come on over here for a second.
Before we do that.
No, this side.
Yeah.
Oh, sorry, Andy.
Here you go.
Hey, there you go.
There you go, Andy.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
Okay.
So what we're looking at here is our ethernet pass through.
That's the cable I plugged in earlier
and a power pass through.
And what I'm imagining is this power pass through
goes to a splitter of some sort.
But the challenge is that I don't see where it comes out
on the inside.
Oh, do you have a Torx driver?
Oh wait, I have a Torx driver.
Oh wait, no, I have a hex driver.
I lied.
No Torx driver.
May I have a Torx driver, please?
Maybe if I open up this power box, that will help.
Thank you.
This looks about right.
Whoop, whoop.
Oh, that sure isn't it.
Oh, I put that back in the wrong spot.
Very, very triggered by that.
So I won't do that to someone else.
Yep, there we go.
Got it.
Okay, Andy, go back on the other side.
Sorry.
Dan, hit me.
Sure thing.
Hi, LTT.
Have you ever considered a stack overflow style
previously asked questions check
to reduce duplicate questions on merch messages?
And then he immediately asked,
will the constellation T ever come back?
Love your content.
Will the what ever come back?
The constellation T.
Ah, good question.
Okay.
First up, yes, we have considered that.
His name is Dan.
Hello.
No, in all seriousness,
we're going to be building a new flow for merch messages
that allows them to be sort of passed through
to our customer care team,
who the hope is they would create a kind of knowledge base
of some sort.
That's also already implemented.
That's already implemented.
So I have a new button that I can send to support.
And a ticket gets created directly and they get an email
and they get your email and they should be able to respond
if there's something that I can't answer.
And that's not really a question
or needs more involved answers.
There's also a follow-up button.
So if you see, we'll follow up with you.
I get a list of those at the end of the show
and then we'll distribute those to who needs to answer them
more directly or with a longer answer.
Super cool.
There you go.
The system works.
What the heck is this?
Do you know about this already?
No.
I don't, I should,
I don't see a place for this to go.
What's really cool is it does have one of the little
Mickey Mouse C whatever, 11 or six or five,
I forget what it is, C something.
It has one of the little Mickey Mouse connectors.
So that goes right into my power brick here.
That's awesome.
That just comes off of a Y off that C 13 input.
But there is absolutely no possible way
for me to put this thing back now that this is here.
Is there also a limit to the power brick size?
That is not happening.
And then I am especially, hold on.
Oh, I'm especially not gonna be able to put this monitor
back in place once that power brick is there.
I think, oh, maybe.
No, no, I'd say that that is suboptimal.
Yeah, and they have their power brick hidden.
How'd they hide their power brick?
Okay, we're gonna look at our reference one.
We're going to look at the cheat sheet.
I made it this far.
That's pretty solid.
Right there, oh, oh, seriously?
This is their power.
They just stuffed it in here.
Well, this is running down.
Yeah, no, look, they just like crammed it in here.
Oh, wow.
Can you see that, Andy?
We can unscrew it.
That's fine.
See, look here.
They just jammed this in here.
And it just doesn't close anymore.
So not only can you,
is there a maximum thickness to your monitor,
but there's a maximum power brick size.
Yeah, this power brick is way too big to do what they did.
Like that's not happening at all.
Depending on your monitor, you're gonna,
monitors that don't have the power brick in them,
that don't have the power supply integrated,
then that really narrows your options.
Wow, that's a downer and a half.
Okay, once this is in here,
oh, this is cool though.
Andy, you might have to come around to the back.
Maybe come around this side.
Do your best with it, Andy.
Hey, it's nice to be too tall for a change
instead of the other thing.
Ouch.
Okay.
See, there's a little cable management in the jiggy here.
And we can just take this guy,
put him in here, right?
Pretty nice.
And this can go over here.
And sometimes I feel kind of bad, right?
Because clearly a lot of development
and a lot of hard work went into this product.
But it is, oh shoot.
Where did that thumb screw go?
Oh, nice.
lttstore.com.
Anyway, it is not real easy to recommend.
I mean, part of this is our own fault.
We obviously made some configuration errors here,
choosing a monitor that's not compatible with it.
But I do also feel like at this kind of price premium,
I would have expected a little bit more,
a little bit more broad compatibility for monitors,
especially when you factor in that they clearly know
because the one they sent us didn't have enough room in here
for the power brick thing.
So let's show you guys what this would look like
if we tried to close it
now that it's fully configured in here.
Okay, so we bring this down.
We, oh shoot, that's not what it needs to do.
Yeah, there we go.
Bring this down like that.
And then the power brick is right there, right?
So it's, yeah, it's sticking up well above this lip here.
Like it would need to come down about this much.
See that?
And it helps a little bit if it shoves down.
Well, yeah, that's really not, that's really not optimal.
I mean, in an emergency,
I'd say you could maybe make this work.
I'd put maybe like a nice soft foam
or something on top of here before I close it
and then it'll go down there.
But I'm not a big fan.
Okay, let's move on.
I was gonna say, if you remove this power supply filter,
you probably, or vent, you probably squeeze it in there.
If I remove this vent,
I'm just blowing heat out into this chamber though,
which doesn't necessarily matter, I guess.
I mean, this is an 1100 watt power supply.
It's barely gonna be kicking out any heat at all.
But even then, it's not gonna be a good fit
because of the bulkiness of the cables
coming off either end.
It still doesn't fit here.
And this cable is so short
that you don't have a lot of options.
All right, Dan, hit me with another.
I tried to talk into my phone.
Okay, this is great.
It's all going wrong.
Andy, can I help you?
No, I'm stuck.
Oh no.
Hold on, hold on.
We're having technical difficulties with Andy.
Okay.
Adam, can I have that iFixit driver back, please?
It is right here.
All right, cool.
Smooth Linus.
Okay, go ahead.
All right.
Hey, Linus and Dan.
The ROG PG27 AQDM monitor you showed is awesome,
but it can only do 1440p 240 hertz 10 bit HDR
with DSC as it does not have HDMI 2.1
or DisplayPort 2.0.
How big is the impact of DSC?
Is it worth it?
Display stream compression is not a big deal.
I know there are purists who will tell you that it matters
and they're right.
From a purist standpoint, it does matter.
It does do something to image quality.
But for you, having not met you
and not knowing anything about you,
I can still say fairly safely for you,
it is not going to be a major impact.
In fact, I would go as far as to say
that you will not notice.
I can't tell.
I am a big nerd and look at this stuff all day, every day.
And it's the kind of thing where you could absolutely
contrive a benchmark scenario where you can make it show up.
But the benefits of the higher refresh rate,
greater color depth, HDR,
are going to vastly outweigh any drawback
that you're going to get
from enabling display stream compression.
It's a really cool technology.
It's not lossless.
I think that a big part of the,
a big part of the negativity around it right now
is that it was kind of promised to be lossless and it's not.
So people are kind of like, gotcha!
But functionally, it's fairly lossless.
So I can see why they said that.
It's just, it goes to show you,
you're better off under promising and over delivering.
They should have said there's nominal loss
and then people would have been thrilled
when they couldn't see it at all.
But instead they kind of said lossless
and then people kind of went, really?
And were disappointed.
Hey, look at that.
Look how fast I can install an SSD though.
Check that out.
Come on Andy, I'll show you again.
Pop it out, pop it in.
Let me begin.
I came to win.
Battle me, that's a sin.
There's a dated reference for you.
Dan, hit me.
Sure.
Would you ever consider doing home lab setup guys?
For example, setting up a domain controller or a similar,
I think he's shaking his head,
or hypervisors for novices and pros.
If you have a home lab,
you know better than me at that point.
That's kind of the whole point of a home lab
is it's a learning environment, right?
So if you want to tinker around with it,
hey, you know, go for it.
I think that we could potentially look at some great,
you know, home lab starter hardware,
but that's our focus is the hardware side.
When it comes to software configuration
of domain controllers or whatever else,
that's not engaging content.
And that's not something you're bound to see on LTT.
I think that if we expanded
into a more server oriented channel in the future,
or if we did more of a,
I had really wanted to acquire
the original NCIX tech tips channel.
And my intention was to use it to do more
like detailed step-by-step tutorials and guides.
I thought that would be a really cool channel
to build there, but we weren't able to make it happen.
I said it was worth X.
The owner said it was worth X plus a lot.
And I basically went, good luck with that
and retracted my offer.
Although I did technically say,
I'll be back in a year with a lower offer.
So maybe I'll try again.
But if the owner didn't sell to me
because they were insulted by my previous offer,
they're certainly not gonna be any less insulted
by my new lower offer.
You can't make people understand the worth
of what they have.
Try negotiating with someone on Craigslist
who wants like greater than sticker price
for some computer they built themselves.
It's like, no, that's actually not how that works.
The parts have depreciated.
You assembling it does not add any value to it.
But I'm trying to find the box for the screws for the case.
It seems to have wandered.
The box for the screws for the case.
I'll take that though.
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I think it's time for us to fire this up.
I did commit a cardinal sin here.
I closed it before verifying that it works,
but hopefully we're in good shape.
Oh, there's one feature I haven't shown off yet.
There's a keyboard holder here.
There you go.
And I guess this is where the mouse goes.
Didn't it come with bags?
Sick.
I mean, maybe, but I wouldn't put it in a bag.
I would just put it in like that.
There's one more feature you haven't talked about.
Okay, what feature have I not talked about?
Does it justify the price?
Woo, look at that.
Oh, a headphone holder.
Yeah, okay.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Every gamer needs one.
I mean, man, that'd be kind of a fun product
to be like a really sick headphone holder.
Yeah, we should do that.
Should do a better headphone holder.
That's what we'll call it.
That'll be the product name, better headphone holder.
You guys down?
We down?
Sure, I'll take a cut.
Let's do it.
All right, cool.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's not what I said.
Just like 0.5% of all sales.
It's so generous of you to give them to 60% royalties, Linus.
Yeah, thank you.
Sorry, can I?
Yeah, either of, thank you.
Oh, that was a bad throw.
Cool, good catch.
Okay, do we have a cloth?
Kind of wipe this down, get it looking its best for its big.
Is there really?
Wait, are you kidding me?
I have to lift up the computer side to reach my front IO?
Well, that's not really front IO then, is it?
No.
That's inside IO.
Is this my power button?
Yeah.
Oh.
It's also your back IO.
Helps to plug in the thing.
Do you wanna plug in the case?
Oh.
You want ethernet?
Yeah, sure, let's get ethernet.
Oh, I got my handle down here.
Oh, this is really useful.
When you're under your desk cable managing and stuff,
you got this handle down here.
Remember the one I was using to carry it at the beginning?
You can use that as an aid to lift yourself up.
Oh, that's really great.
Throw all those cases.
That's worth $3,600.
Okay.
Oh, oops, I missed something.
Oh, cloth, nice.
Right, I didn't plug in my GPU.
It was a little awkward.
Oh, how the devil am I gonna plug this in?
Prayers.
Okay, really?
Oh, okay.
All right, I think it comes out.
Oh my goodness, it's really deep in there.
Uh, hmm, wow.
That's what she said, all right.
I think I got it.
Yep, I got it.
Hey, my prayers worked.
Praying to Gordon Lightfoot.
Rest in peace.
Yep, indeed.
All right.
He really listens though.
It's good he's there to help us from the other side now.
Chat's gonna be very confused.
I'm sorry?
There's gonna be like 10 Canadians in the chat.
10 Canadians, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Look, we do have famous Canadians
and now we have the number we had before minus one,
which is a bummer because it was a good one.
That's basically the summary, I guess.
Oh my goodness, I went and put my keyboard on this side
and I took my monitor and I need this to get at my power.
Really?
That's not a good sign.
That was nothing, that was no movement.
Yeah, that was full bad GBs right there.
This is the cable and it goes to here.
The cable bone's connected to the, is that lit?
Oh yeah, it's lit.
It's lit AF.
Well, you don't need to keep following it
cause it's lit.
I don't know where I'm going.
So much for that ethernet though.
Oh, you brought it over here.
That was good.
It was in there.
Oh, the clip's broken, I see.
This is bad.
This is very bad.
Is it an I?
Oh, there's the I.
Oh, was that loose?
Yeah.
Hey, where the crap is my RGB?
Oh, the RAM lit up.
Hello, buddy?
Oh, shoot kabobs.
No, I can fix this.
Let's go.
I didn't plug in SATA power to the RGB thing.
Oh my goodness, if you need to lift up both of these.
Oh wow, seriously?
So there's no way to lift up both of them?
You can.
Yeah, can you?
Oh, why is this not going forward?
It's cause of the weight of the monitor.
It's really tough to move it now.
And then now you can turn it enough of that.
Oh my gosh.
That's extremely.
The other one opened better.
I think it's cause it's a 27-inch.
Oh no, this isn't the way now.
What?
Cause that interferes.
This piece comes up.
It's locked?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Oh yeah, that works.
Oh man.
Okay.
No, no, I can do this.
I just need to get a SATA power connector.
Why is this guy just hanging out?
What did you just do?
This is just hanging out.
What?
This is just hanging there.
Okay, unplug the desk.
Sorry, did I not plug in the 16 time for the GPU?
I thought I did.
You mustn't have.
Mustn't have.
You mustn't have.
Mustn't have.
Okay.
Uh oh.
Panic.
And here I thought the RGB was my biggest concern,
which it still is.
Oh, whoops.
Now it goes this way.
What am I doing?
I could have sworn I put this in.
You know what?
No, I don't remember doing that anymore.
So I didn't.
Okay.
Oh no.
How on earth am I gonna get a SATA connector over there?
I wish I'd thought of this.
Oh, this is a giant boatload of suck.
Because you just need to get this,
you need to feed that through.
Well, no, this is already through.
I just, I need to get it to this thing,
somewhere that is aesthetically pleasing, ideally.
Oh, it's kind of hidden from the window.
Okay, all right, I got this one through.
Okay, hopefully it's oriented correctly.
Do you want me to switch?
Luck.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Come on.
Get in there.
Ah, yes, good.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Not my finest work.
Crap.
Dan, stall them.
Hit me with the merch message.
Okay.
Are you planning on making, selling the cleanest desk?
No.
We'd love to at some point,
but it's really big and really heavy
and we don't have a ton of experience
dealing with really big, really heavy things.
So that's the sort of thing that we would need
more experience dealing with
before we wanted to try to tackle.
Yeah.
I mean, if we could find a partner
that wanted to do it with us or something like that,
then we'd be open to something like that.
You know, if they wanted like a co-marketing agreement
or some kind of, you know, royalty agreement or something,
I think we could probably find a way to make that work.
But the issue is that every time we've talked to anyone
about something like that,
how do I put this without sounding like a greedy bastard?
They just haven't offered enough to make it worth our time.
That's been our experience.
And so we just kind of say, no thanks.
See you later.
And that's it.
New CPU installed.
Here we go.
I'm ready to be an esports.
Oh, shoot.
What was this?
Come off.
This is a textured surface.
Is the idea behind the surface of this thing
that you don't need a mouse pad?
Is that the idea?
Because that's a bad idea.
I don't know if that's the idea.
It's gonna be so full of skin in like 20 minutes.
It kind of feels like they were going
for like the folding table vibe.
Wow.
At $3,600, I wouldn't recommend the folding table vibe,
but they did definitely achieve it.
It's got kind of a rough texture to it
that is really easy to fill up with dead skin cells.
You kind of see where I'm going with this.
That will happen basically immediately.
Not recommended.
Could I just get a lovely desk pad
from lttstore.com, please?
Yes.
Oh, did that water ever make its way back?
I am dying.
Oh, thank you.
See, look, my tongue is dry.
It's dry.
You probably can't tell, but it's dry.
It's a good sound.
Look, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug.
Let's go.
Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug.
You need the larger style of water bottle.
He's going.
If you can go for that.
Oh my God, he's not stopping.
Oh, that's better.
I'd had like nothing to drink today.
Okay.
I don't know what to do with this.
And that is why I almost never use the 22 ounce anymore.
It's just not enough.
Cause I'm the kind of person who just forgets
to drink entirely until I'm like, oh man, I'm dying.
Okay, what are we doing here?
Press N.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Press what now?
N.
Oh, sure.
No.
Is my battery dead?
It was working early.
Oh, it just fell.
Does that have a function for the FK?
Oh, wow.
And if you needed anything,
literally anything that wasn't wired
or that wasn't wireless,
they don't even.
Oh, this is really, oh, this is something.
From their front panel IO, which is here,
they don't have anywhere for it to go.
What I'm looking for right now is like,
oh, maybe it goes over this side here
and then it comes out cleverly here or something, but it.
Could you just use the middle as a channel?
No, there's no gap.
Look at this.
That's tight.
So if I needed to charge my keyboard while I'm gaming,
I wouldn't be able to.
Okay.
You strap the T charger to the inside of the lid.
So here's what we need.
I need a power bank and a USB micro B cable.
What a stupid situation.
Where did my?
Dan, hit me.
Okay, I got one more here for you.
Sure.
Hey, can you make muscle tank tops
really wanna get buff in a tank top,
put an image of a water cooler pump in the front,
call it the get pumped tank.
If I was running Spencer's gifts, yes.
I don't think we're gonna do that one though,
but thank you very much for the idea.
That's really great.
We could plug in the monitor USB.
Yeah, we could plug in the monitor USB, I guess.
Thanks chat, that was chat.
Sure, thanks chat.
Smart chat, thank you chat.
I don't even think we have one of those USB 3B cables
kicking around.
Do I have a micro B here though?
You know what, I think this is one.
Nope, that's type C.
Come on, micro B.
I don't think we, I don't think we.
Oh, I've got one.
Yep, you know what?
I bet I could get power off the monitor
even if I don't have the hub plugged in.
You've got micro?
Yeah, but you can probably get power through the monitor.
Okay, hey, yeah, there we go.
Okay.
Where'd my Apple box go?
Heck yeah.
Nice, nice.
What a sleek and elegant setup.
Okay, F1 to run setup.
Nice.
Oh, you gotta be kidding me.
Come on.
Seriously?
Is this one also?
No, this isn't dead.
Okay, I don't know why this isn't working.
At any rate, advanced mode, F7, AI tweaker, up.
Perfect, memory profile loads just like that.
And let's see if I can bring up my chat here.
Whoa, whoa.
How you doing chat?
Hey, Linus, would love to see more videos with Yvonne.
Well, you're in luck because Yvonne's ultimate,
AMD ultimate tech upgrade is coming extremely soon.
It's already shot and we're hoping to have that uploaded
probably within the next week or two.
Super awesome.
Also, if you'll settle for her sister,
we uploaded the extras, the behind the scenes extras
from the Esther build on Floatplane today.
So you can check that out over on floatplane.com.
Is this doing something here, buddy?
Hello?
Why does this happen?
Oh, CalTurn on Floatplane has a solution for the USB cable.
It's called a Dremel.
Oh, that's not a real solution.
Oh, I will not enable in the new CPU.
Oh, okay, let's try yes then.
Cool, I'd love to see more videos with Yvonne.
Oh, okay, the chat's not updating there right now.
Let's pop out a new one.
Yeah, you shouldn't have to Dremel a $3,600 desk.
Exactly, says Magnus over in the Floatplane chat.
100% Magnus.
If this thing was like my original guess,
if it was 499, if it was budget, then you know what?
I'm willing to overlook a lot of this stuff.
Even if it was 599, 699,
I'm willing to overlook a lot of these oversights.
But as it is, this is an extremely small desk.
I mean, this is it, right?
A tenkeyless and an okay-sized mousing area, that's it.
If I'm a low-sensitivity gamer,
this is borderline for me.
I was wondering if maybe it was more for like
companies to bring to events.
Like say you're NVIDIA, right?
And you go, oh, we're gonna go to PAX East or whatever.
Let's bring five of these.
They're really easy for the event to set up.
You just whip them out.
No?
Because the issue is that you've got this monitor
not really packed carefully.
It doesn't have any actual padding around it.
And when things are, you never pack things for events
in the trunk of your car.
You pack them on pallets, right?
And so what are you gonna do?
You're gonna palletize like, what, four of these maybe?
I mean, if you have an entire pallet of space,
why don't you just have four towers and four monitors
in their packing boxes?
And then ask for a table?
And ask for a folding table
and put a tablecloth on it, right?
Like this is-
Why isn't that working?
This is a solution in search of a problem, I think,
if that's what they're going for.
Let's get you a grab and go mouse.
Just give me a mouse that plugs in.
Just give me a mouse that plugs in.
This is cursed.
Adam, do you wanna check-
It's cursed, Adam.
The cable arm and see if there's channel
for keyboard cables and things?
No, so I see what you're talking about right here.
No, it's not open to the front IO.
Yeah, I think all of that just goes
into the right-hand side, yeah.
Yeah, unfortunately, no.
We can investigate here if we want.
Oh, okay, this is type C only.
Darn it.
Oh, maybe I can get-
Do you need a type C?
Oh, no, it's not a power issue.
I just don't really understand what's going on here.
And then if I wanna access my stupid front IO,
I have to...
This is ridiculous.
Oh, there's a hole even closer to you.
What about that one?
Like right on the very front of that.
Oh, this little guy.
Yeah, what's that?
No, that goes into the left.
No, it doesn't go here.
It doesn't go into that chamber.
Oh, wait, could we...
Oh, wait.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh, there we go.
Hold on, hold on.
Okay, we've got it, folks.
We've got it.
Here we go.
Thanks, Floatplane Chat.
Thanks, Floatplane Chat.
Okay, here's how it works.
And if you're expecting it to be less stupid,
it is less stupid, but it's still quite stupid.
It goes here.
And then you have to lift up the other side,
which is great.
And then it goes here, I think.
And then this gets absolutely
mangulated when you lower this.
Okay.
This comes up.
Okay.
I think I liked the Dremel idea more.
That's something.
All right.
And you could put maybe like three or four cables.
Yeah, I was gonna say that the limit's more further in here
than it is there.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's better than nothing.
Wired mouse, do we have one?
What we had before.
Sweet.
No, hold on, hold on.
Maybe this mouse will work.
I plugged the receiver.
Yeah, yeah, we're good, we're good.
We're good on the mouse.
I plugged it into a different USB port.
Cool.
Okay, let's play Cyberpunk.
We got frame view.
Let's go.
Let's play some Cyberpunk.
Yeah, that's running at 240 Hertz.
Can hang out with chat for a little bit.
Yeah, good job, everyone.
I could see a use for these for a school e-sports team
that doesn't have room or area dedicated to them
and they move around.
But they also have $10,000 per computer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They also have this kind of money to spend.
Sure thing.
I'd love to go to your school
because my school did not have that kind of money
to spend on desks.
Screen is LAN party to me, maybe small house living.
Just slide her under the bed when not in use.
Ah, when not in use.
But like, when is your computer so not in use
that you slide it under the bed?
And also, I mean, there's the fact that that was,
this was a two person thing to lift it up.
Yeah.
What's the deal with that?
Cyberpunk gonna launch at some point?
Here we go.
Cool.
Dan, do you have any more merch messages?
Sure, I've got one more here.
Sure.
Thanks for the work you do.
Question for Linus.
Are you thinking of going 13th gen Intel or AMD
for your next framework upgrade?
I really want the AMD one, but it's not out yet.
And 13th gen Intel is an option
and I'm kind of itching for an upgrade
mostly because I have some repairs to do to my machine
that are unrelated to the motherboard.
If I'm gonna have it all taken apart anyway,
then I might as well go 13th gen
is kind of what I'm thinking.
But I mean, the 12th gen one is also serving me just fine
other than that I plugged in the EDP cable incorrectly.
So sometimes the screen flickers
and I accidentally shattered my fingerprint reader.
Other than that, everything's great.
Go Linus.
Hello, Eula?
What am I?
Hello?
What just happened?
Oh, nothing ever works.
I love it.
It's great.
This is fantastic.
Cyberpunk too embarrassed to run on this.
Yeah, hold on.
I saw someone talking about,
yeah, this is a really good point.
People were talking about, oh, you could stow it away
or you could use it if you're on the go or whatever else.
For this kind of money,
you could have your completely separate desktop
that you didn't spend $3,600 on a desk case for,
and you could spend three grand on a gaming laptop
and take that around with you.
Or just have another computer at wherever you need to go.
Yeah, this is rough.
Oh, wait, Cyberpunk's not installed on here?
Yes, it is.
How sure are you?
Why is there, that's why the thing's on it.
I mean, it's why it's on the, geez.
You might have to point Steam to the other game directory.
I only see two drives.
Whoops.
I don't know if one of the, if the T700 is initialized.
Oh, hey, here we go.
Cool.
Well, whatever your four terabyte drive is.
Did we put, I don't think that SSD was four terabytes.
Was it four terabytes?
Well, something is four terabytes.
That SSD is four terabytes.
Which one?
The SATA.
Oh, the SATA.
We're on the correct install
because this is the same drive that we used.
So just open Dead Space maybe.
But Steam might just not be looking in the right spot.
What if I just do this?
Going old school.
Just launched the executable.
There we go.
But don't you want to use Red Launcher?
This window is pretty cool.
Yeah, so that's neat.
I like having a window into my desk.
Come check it out, Andy.
It's got a window.
It comes with windows.
I got top down.
Oh, we got top down.
Oh, he's made another dad joke.
Hey, there you go.
Let me just get the monitor out of the way
so that you can appreciate the window on my computer.
Well, I'm waiting for the...
How cool is that?
GPU fan to spin on?
Yeah.
I'm waiting for the GPU fan to start.
Sick.
Don't worry.
That GPU fan's gonna spin.
Cyberpunk will make sure of it.
Oh, here we go.
Wow, that's a wobbly fan on that $1600 GPU.
Good job, Nvidia.
I don't think they can see it in the top down.
Andy, you should get a shot of that.
That's really...
That's kind of wild.
Yeah, it looks fine to me.
Oh my God.
How many times did you drop this one?
I didn't drop it ever.
And you know it.
Oh crap.
I hate it when this happens.
Sorry?
Alt enter?
Nope.
No.
Okay.
Really?
Is there like a game settings dot stupid thing that I can...
Oh man.
Okay.
You know what you should do is if you can find...
Or if we can find a reference image
for the cyberpunk main menu, then we'll just...
Oh, what did I click?
Oh, okay.
Credits.
Well, it's not that one.
And that was quit.
Just play Dead Space or something.
Cyberpunk sucks.
What?
I don't like that game at all.
Why are you being such a hater?
Oh, I'm such a hater.
It's just, it's a poor RPG with really pretty graphics.
And Dead Space is a good horror game
with really good graphics.
You're being a hater.
Steam's having a time, isn't it?
You know what it is is that the library is not pointed
at the correct place.
Downloads.
Steam library folders.
Here we go.
All right, I'll just find it a new library folder.
No, let me choose another location you butt.
Okay, program files, Steam.
And then what is it?
Just the Steam apps folder, I think.
New Steam library folder must be empty.
No, you have to add one, not create one.
Oh my God.
Yeah, it should just be the local.
Sure.
Seriously?
Why did you choose the C drive?
Oh, because it wasn't on.
Because it's on the D drive.
Cyberpunk is in the Steam folder of this other drive.
So that's fine.
I will just do this.
Steam library and, oh, Steam apps.
Gen five, let's go paste.
Yeah, I want to see this gen five.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's see how fast a gen five SSD can copy all this data.
We've never seen a gen five.
All right.
I mean, that's fast.
That's pretty fast.
What are we getting?
Two point something gigabytes a second.
Oh, oh, she's down.
She's down.
Oh boy.
We're down 260.
Oh, oh, we're up to 2.1.
Oh, and we're down to 500 megabytes a second.
I mean, still, this is going really well.
Why did I copy all these games?
Why didn't I just do one?
Why do I not think of these things?
So many questions.
I just want to see the game run.
I just want to see the game run.
Do you have any more merch messages?
I got one more, I think.
All right, do it.
This might not be the place for this kind of question,
but my face, oh yeah, get in there.
3.5 gigabytes a second.
What the freaking heck is going on here?
That is very fast.
Can confirm very fast.
And when it starts doing really, really,
really little tiny files, it goes down.
But man, when it gets those big files
to dig its teeth into, that SSD rips.
What is this one?
The T700?
Maybe it's the Crucial, right?
It's one of the two.
I thought we were booting into the gigabyte one.
Huh, well, I don't know, it's something.
Cool, either way, very fast.
Okay, Dan, hit me.
Okay, here we go.
My Facebook account was hacked
and I can't access it anymore.
Any ideas what I should do?
Stop using Facebook?
No, that's not very nice.
I mean, obviously you want a real solution.
The problem is that Facebook has literally
no customer support for users.
They don't have it.
So there's not a whole lot you can do.
You just have to create a new account, I guess,
and start from scratch.
That really sucks.
Like, sorry to hear that.
I just don't really see an alternative.
Can I help you?
I'm just interested in what the thermals are gonna be like.
Oh, like on the GPU.
It's not a lot for that top fan
and that bottom fan's also not going much.
There's not much space after it, so.
So is there a reason you picked a 4090 for this?
Because big card go fast e-sports expensive.
He's so eloquent, isn't he?
You're a writer here, right?
Yeah, I write videos.
Oh, okay, yeah.
For a living.
Maybe not for long, but.
Okay, you know what?
Let's play some Halo.
Halo's not gonna play.
Yeah, download Halo.
Halo Infinite, here we go.
The Steam library, here we go.
Preparing files for install.
Allocating disk space.
Come on, show me finding.
Pre-loading complete.
What?
What?
Seriously?
0%?
What is it doing?
Are you kidding me?
Is it downloading it?
Oh no, I know what happened.
I know what happened.
Manage, uninstall, uninstall.
I didn't copy them into common.
So, oh boy, let's see how it handles.
Also doing another, oh no, it's a move.
It's a move operation, so it's fine.
Oh no, no, but wait, it's uninstalling.
It's not gonna find the one I just put in there
and uninstall that too, is it?
Uninstall busy.
I love this man.
Just do one thing and wait.
Exit Steam.
I can't do this anymore.
I quit, I've had enough.
East board.
We're playing Unigine Heaven Benchmark, okay?
Yeah.
That's all we got.
Spider Solitaire.
No.
No guys, I'm fine.
Everything's fine.
Hello, Steam?
Come back.
Linus, you killed it.
Please, Steam, come back.
I hate you.
It's still copying the files.
I'm gonna be stuck with Epic Games Store now.
Why didn't I create a common folder?
Hello, Steam?
Oh my goodness.
It's not coming back, guys.
Steam is dead.
Oh, we can kill it more though.
Wait, if we kill it more better,
maybe we can bring it back better than ever.
Yeah, you gotta close,
I think it's Web Helpers or some of those.
No, don't worry, we got this.
It's just murdering all of them.
We're gonna close them all.
Oh, they're gone.
Yeah.
Okay.
Steam has been sufficiently murdered.
Now we can bring it back to life.
I need to download something to see if this has 2.5 gig
or the ethernet's just one gig.
Give that a little.
I'm not sure we have 10 gig to that.
It's two and a half gig.
Two and a half gig.
But that's just, it's just a cable.
There's no, there's no logic in that.
No, it's just an extension?
Yeah, so as long as the extension is of reasonable quality,
then it's fine.
Oh my goodness.
What?
Wow.
What is this trying to do?
Okay, can I pause it?
Yes.
And then, is it trying to scan?
Um, okay.
And then cut.
And then put this back here.
No, no, I got this.
I got this.
I got this.
I got this.
I got this.
Okay.
Uh, uh, uh, halo.
Okay.
And then properties.
No, oh no, it's a manage, manage.
Here we go.
Manage, uninstall.
Okay.
Come on.
Come on.
You can do it.
No.
Really?
Oh, yes.
Okay, we're good.
Now I move all of these into common.
And then.
Probably restart Steam.
Presto change.
Oh no, no, it can do it.
It can do it.
It can do it.
Okay.
We've got this.
All right.
Preparing, discovering existing files.
Let's go.
No problem.
Taking the sweet time though.
Do you have any more merch messages?
Yeah, I've got a couple here.
Love your clothing.
Slowly replacing my whole closet with it.
Curious, which handheld gaming PC
would be the best one to get?
Right now, I can't answer that
because the ROG allies official pricing
hasn't been released,
but if it's what the rumors seem to be indicating,
it's looking like that's going to be
an absolutely incredible option.
Like just incredible.
The performance is much better
and not just the performance,
but the experience is much better than the Steam Deck.
Okay, not everything about it is better.
The Steam Deck is more of a,
okay, it's complicated.
The Steam Deck's a console.
And with that comes the strengths
and weaknesses of a console, right?
So the strength is that it's just pick up and go.
Instant resume.
Wow, amazing, right?
But the drawback is that it only plays the games it plays.
That's it.
Well, sort of, except it's a Linux PC.
So it's a console, but on roids.
Meanwhile, the ROG Ally is a Windows computer.
So that comes with all the advantages of a Windows computer,
like near infinite game compatibility
and not just games, software compatibility.
You can run basically anything on it for Windows,
but with the drawbacks of Windows
and that it's like, Windows.
Windows.
Why, you know?
I'm playing like, what do you mean Windows update?
I'm on the bus.
I'm busy playing my video game,
but the fan is so quiet and that's really cool.
It is a much, much, much better experience in that sense.
All right.
Now we play the waiting game.
What are we limited by here?
Okay, we're, you know, 10% CPU.
SSD is barely doing anything.
This is something that I've always kind of struggled with.
It's like my CPU is not doing anything.
My disc isn't doing anything.
My network's not doing anything.
So why don't you just go faster?
Yeah, what is the computer doing?
That's my merge message.
Yeah. Nothing's happening.
And then nothing's happening.
It's discovering existing files for Halo Infinite.
Okay.
How, if the CPU is not active.
I don't know when the Lux version
of the backpack will launch
and we haven't finalized the pricing, but it is coming.
And we are pretty close to being ready to place our order.
We actually got our materials testing report back
from this company called Chima.
So they did a bunch of abrasion testing
and like strength testing
and all this kind of durability testing for us.
And it came in class one in every category that they tested.
So that combined with the experience I've had using it
so far where it basically just looks like new
other than breaking in kind of like, you know,
a leather wood, even though it's not cow leather,
it's apple leather,
means it's pretty much green lit at this point.
There's still some things we need to solve
with respect to carabiners.
I don't want this to ship with the ones
that need to be recalled.
I want this to ship with fixed ones.
And then we've still got to figure out
a couple of little things.
The dimensions of this pocket got kind of screwed up
when we switched over to the Lux.
So it's gotta be a bit bigger.
This zipper's kind of like curved.
I want that to be straight.
So there's a few little things to fix,
but then we're pretty much ready to place a PO.
Just don't really know how many to order
because it's not gonna be cheap.
We're asking what's apple leather?
It's leather made of apple.
It's not like a crappy bonded product or anything like that.
Like it's shockingly, it's really cool.
That's all I can really say about that.
Will there be different color options?
Would love a tan leather version.
This one would be first.
After that, all bets are off.
Depends how this one goes.
We could do all kinds of cool colors and stuff like that.
I'd love to.
The minimum order quantity for these is not wildly high.
So it could be feasible, yeah.
Someone asks, will there be a genuine leather version?
Anything's possible.
Do you wanna spend two grand on a backpack?
It's not just the leather itself that's expensive.
It's the working with leather that's expensive.
I don't think you're gonna wanna buy a product like this
and have it be machine sewn
because it's not gonna have the same kind of durability
that hand sewn would with genuine leather
because it's really, really hard to work with.
And if you were to hand sew a product like this,
I think two grand would be optimistic.
So I mean, yeah, if you're into it, you know, sure.
But no, no, I don't think that's,
I don't think that's gonna be happening anytime soon.
Yeah, there's all kinds of,
people are talking on in YouTube chat
about different kinds of leather.
Mango leather, we've seen pineapple leather,
this mushroom leather.
Yvonne has a sample of the Luxe backpack
and mushroom leather that other than being too stiff,
like it's so stiff that trying to get your hand
in and out of this zipper,
the teeth of the zipper are like,
as you put your arm into it, like the feel is really cool.
It's not as close to cow's leather as this apple one is,
but it's really unique, it's really cool.
Yes, Mr. Cagdas, I do look at YouTube chat
every once in a very so rarely.
It's just, it's moving at a reasonable rate right now,
so I checked it out.
JPA Jappers says, I'm a hobbyist leather crafter,
and yeah, hand sewing that many seams
is like multiple days of saddle stitching by hand.
Yeah, it would be brutal.
And it's not like you could just have monkeys doing it,
you'd have to have crafts people
working on something like this, it would be so expensive.
How close are we?
50% of the way through the second stage of verifying.
But our disc usage is 540 megabytes a second,
so at least that's something.
Mind you, for our SSD, that's like 11%, apparently.
I have no idea how this is calculated though,
this active time 10%.
As far as I can tell, it's just kind of nonsense.
One.
Black zippers.
You know what, I kind of like the,
I kind of like the over the top blingy silver zippers.
I don't think I'm gonna be convinced on this one.
It'd be too stealthy.
It'd be almost not flashy enough, in my humble opinion.
You put a real leather backpack on a payment plan,
and I'm in.
Carl, no.
If you need a payment plan to buy a backpack,
you shouldn't buy that backpack.
No, I refuse.
I refuse to have a payment plan on our backpack.
I mean, there's nothing I can do to stop people
when they use just like the one that's,
what's that one that's baked into Edge now or whatever?
Does anyone remember?
What now?
There's that, there's that,
it's like pay later or something like that.
I forget what it's called.
Oh yeah, I don't know.
It was like the Zed one.
But guys, watch out.
If you can't afford it now,
unless it's absolutely essential,
it's not the sort of thing
that you should be making interest payments on.
Interest is literally the most colossal waste of money
that you could possibly waste your money on.
Don't give other people money
for just the privilege of having given you some money.
No, no, very bad.
And obviously I understand that sometimes you can't avoid it
or there are big ticket items like a house, for example,
where it's just not feasible to pay for it all in one go,
obviously, but it just, consumer products.
No, no, no, no.
Okay.
All right.
Let's play some Halo, are you kidding me?
Okay, you'll have to look away
while I sign in for a second, Andy.
What the devil keyboard is this?
That's the...
Now just a gosh darn minute here,
where did this come from?
What is this key?
Yeah.
This was the one they sent us.
So that might be some sort of a...
What is this?
This is like finished layout.
Okay.
I mean, that's something.
Okay.
Yeah, sorry, Andy.
I need to type in my password.
Thanks.
Zoom directly in.
I don't even...
lttstar.com.
I don't even know how to type on this keyboard.
In my pocket.
Oh my goodness.
You mean to tell me you can't touch type Linus?
Not on this.
Oh, cause the layout's different.
Shut up, Dan.
It's still QWERTY.
Is it?
Okay, yeah, but the labels are wrong.
Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out your password.
That's all.
Okay, yeah.
No, no, I'm not good.
He's logging it.
Oh.
Apparently Scandinavian layout.
Scandinavian.
Okay, well I managed to enter my password.
All I gotta do is my 2FA and then we're good to go.
Look at him, not me.
Oh, hit a slash instead of enter.
Okay, well I'm not gonna be able to run
because I have a short shift key.
So good luck me.
Okay.
Would you consider banning consumer credit?
I don't know if we'd have any way of doing that.
Cause the thing you gotta understand,
maybe you're watching from Europe or something is
over here credit cards are ubiquitous.
Like I use a credit card for everything.
I just pay it off every month
because if I can get rewards for using my credit card
then I might as well just get rewards.
Are you kidding me?
I just signed in.
One moment please.
Welcome to current year everybody.
I'm just, I don't know.
Look at me.
What if I did it like one of you?
Yeah, there you go.
And then you can go shoulder, chin, shoulder,
shoulder, shoulder.
Double dream hands.
That's a reference for the real ones.
Thank you for that Adam.
It means a lot to me.
Yeah, you're a real one Dan.
Yeah.
We need to practice that together more.
Oh, bring back Shay.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the live feed.
Okay, I'm done I think.
You know what?
Maybe it's the wrong 2FA code.
Hold on, I have like a thousand different 2FA things.
No, that's definitely the right one.
It says press enter to play.
What?
It's not in the cards.
There's no halo for you today.
Sign in number four.
Are you kidding me?
Microsoft?
Okay, cool.
Installed locally.
Oh, it's not, oh it doesn't, it doesn't detect that.
I haven't picked up the drive.
Just yeah, just go into them folders
and open like a dead space or a.
Okay, what else do we have?
Yeah, The Last of Us, that's in the middle of a game.
Fine.
This is brutal.
What a great computer.
Who built this mess?
This always happens, man.
It works and then you build it
and then it suddenly stops working.
I know.
Wait, you're about to install The Last of Us?
Seriously?
You know what?
I give up.
No, no, I don't give up.
I'm just gonna launch MSI Combustor.
There.
Now that's a game.
That's my favorite game.
Why is it in download?
Oh, this is.
No, no, we're good, we're good.
I was about to.
Run stress test.
Here we go.
Cool.
GPU temp, 55 degrees.
Hey, that fan spun up, Dan.
Very exciting.
I got it live.
Nice.
Okay.
It's gonna fly off and break through the glass.
Definitely ramping up a little bit.
You wanna toss the Cinebench on at the same time?
Really get them cooking in there?
No, no, this is okay.
Because Cinebench isn't really gonna affect
the internal temperatures much.
I have the radiator configured as an exhaust.
So that's not really gonna do anything.
I do kind of wanna have a look at how that air
kind of gets kicked out here.
Yeah, okay.
It goes right out the back and it's reasonably perforated.
Yeah, I don't think that's a major issue.
I do worry about my intake.
The fact that I only have these two 80 millimeter fans
for intake, but then they are blowing right onto my GPU.
Hmm.
Yeah.
What are your CPU temps at?
If you had more of like an esportsy configuration,
I think this would be way more than fine.
And the cooler for the 4090 is so overbuilt
that I would be surprised if we go above
like 65, 70 degrees anyway.
Yeah.
Pretty fun game.
Yeah, it's a good game.
I mean, look at this rock.
Look at that rock, man.
Rock on.
Yeah, it's got the tessellation.
Yeah, it's got that depth of field.
Love that depth of field.
Everyone's trying to make rocks in their games these days,
but no one can really do it like MSI.
Nobody makes a rock snake.
Yeah.
Like MSI combustor.
What is this thing?
Yeah.
Rock snake was my nickname in high school.
I doubt that.
What about me doesn't make you think
that that was my nickname in high school?
Wait.
Are you kidding me?
My CPU, I assumed the CPU temps were fine
because it was sitting at like, I don't know,
20, 30% use.
This CPU is at 83 degrees.
Whew.
Actually, the utilization is a little bit higher now.
I may have forgot to ask if you put thermal paste on it.
Steam is downloading something.
I didn't, but there was thermal paste on it already.
Steam's downloading something.
So that explains why the CPU usage
is a little bit higher right now.
But man, we're up to 83 degrees
because it's taking all that heat coming off the GPU
and then putting that through the radiator, right?
So it's not in an optimal cooling configuration,
at least from a CPU standpoint.
This GPU is not gonna get hot.
We're at 71 degrees and it's basically settling in there.
So that's fine.
At least we can see that it doesn't need a ton of clearance
above the fan.
I do not like these CPU temps.
Okay, fine.
I will hit it with us and a bench load
and let's see what happens.
Mm, 90 degrees.
Yeah.
Eh.