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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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All right, guys, it's, oh, I don't hear any audio.
That could be a bad sign.
Or it could be, oh.
That's weird.
I don't hear anything because my computer is muted.
Yeah, dog.
Does that mean it's muted for them too?
Sometimes that's what that means.
Yeah, well, I guess we're about to find out, aren't we?
Maybe no one heard anything.
All right, guys, it's WAN show time again.
No, things are working.
Everything is working, everything is fine.
Welcome to the WAN show where everything is fine
and everything is good except our video capture cards.
Is the YouTube upload muted then?
No, it's fine.
I just checked it, yes.
Everything is fine, everything is wonderful.
Everything is awesome.
We should just sing that song for an hour and a half.
Copyright's all over the place.
Well, now everything is awesome.
Well, we could sing it for an hour and a quarter
because we're 15 minutes late.
Sorry, guys, we're here.
So we've got a great show for you guys today.
Steam has introduced broadcasting in a way
that I actually think is much more organic
and much closer to the more traditional,
like watching your buddy play video games kind of thing
that even services like Twitch TV were kind of modeled after.
So more on that later.
Also, AT&T is wondering why exactly six megabit
is not that great and a gigabit is much better.
I don't know, AT&T, because everything's not awesome.
That's my bird impression.
CAPTCHA is dead.
Can we make like AT&T bird?
Like we should have a shirt that's
just like a blue and white bird with its head like this.
Why is that better?
Why is 10 higher than five?
The ISP bird.
Can you prove that?
I don't think you should be able to build fiber here
because I don't want you to.
CAPTCHA is possibly dead.
Meet no CAPTCHA by Google, which again, we'll
just talk about that later, mouse movements and stuff.
And then he stole my thing again.
And then I forgot, no, we're good.
Gangnam style hit an integer cap in terms of views.
So things are happening and things are changing
and it's crazy and we'll talk about that.
More views than anyone from YouTube
ever thought was possible.
Linus Tech Tips edition.
Yeah, we've never done that.
In fact, we have very few videos that are anywhere near
any kind of impressive view camp whatsoever.
We only have like half a dozen videos
that have over a million views.
One's a fire truck.
And one's a fire truck.
That one has 3 million.
We should review like an actual fire truck.
That would be a great follow-up, unboxing a fire truck.
So we've got a few great sponsors for you guys today.
Number one is everybody's favorite sponsor, Squarespace.
Or at least your favorite sponsor if you're
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I forgot Linus.
Also, the Intel Extreme Masters is going on in San Jose.
So visit linustechtips.com for details
about what Intel is going to be up to at this event.
And finally, whoa, is that a new sponsor?
Wow, have we done Loot Crate before?
Let's see how hard I screw up everything.
And then everyone will sign up for Loot Crate
if 5.4 is anything to go by.
Seriously, like every time I screw up a 5.4 integration
and it's not that I'm doing it on purpose, trust me.
It's Nick's fault.
We need to get like a-
I blame Nick.
Nick is gonna hate you for that.
If we could get like affordable grocery food style,
not like pizza, but like grocery food style,
I think we could basically round out everything
that you would need to do other than go to work.
So if someone was able to then get a work at home job
with the sponsor lineup that we have,
we might be able to enable it.
So they would never have to leave their house.
Is this good or bad?
I'm not sure.
Yeah, me neither.
All right, so why don't we launch
into our first topic for the day.
This one's pretty much a complete stroke of genius.
So I'm just gonna copy the link here.
I'm gonna see if I'm, oh, I am not logged into Twitch
because for some reason, oh, don't you guys hate this?
Okay, sorry, we're not gonna do a topic right now.
We are gonna do a rant.
And this happens on computers.
It happens on phones.
Yes, I am going there.
Why?
Why is text input ever, ever slower than my fingers?
And I apologize to the headphone users
because I'm pretty sure I just destroyed you all.
Okay, I'm gonna have to move back
for the rest of this topic because-
I don't understand why.
In the time that I've been using computers, okay?
You probably got closer to me.
I don't care.
In the time that I've been using computers,
they have increased in power exponentially
and yet somehow my fingers are still faster.
You know what?
Microsoft, Apple, Google, all of you,
get your crap together.
The keyboard input is the most important thing.
Everything else, that stupid audio ad
running on some website in a tab that I can't find
is not as important as the keyboard input.
It should never be slow.
So that's what I've got to say about that.
And it's working now.
I just saw him go through that.
And every single time, okay, I hate it
and I'm completely on board with you.
That rant was brilliant, all good, everything.
I'm cool with it.
That was brilliant.
You're fired for sucking up.
What's actually kind of entertaining
is when it lags on your phone
and you're like, okay, can I do this?
And you got to try and get the whole long sentence out
and then wait, wait, wait,
and then see it just go and do all of it.
And if you see any errors, you're like, ah, no.
The reason I'm so mad about that is not just right now,
but the Mac's been doing it.
And I know it only has eight gigs of RAM.
And like I am a tab fiend
and I really need to get that 32 gigs of RAM in there.
I know I have to do these things.
The worst tab fiend I've ever seen.
But text is, text input is always more important
than anything else.
If you have to reserve 16 kilobytes of RAM
that's needed for that, then you deserve it.
You do what you gotta do.
I shouldn't have to, like the Mac has been really bad.
The worst I've ever seen.
Like I'll be typing.
If you type it in and then it pauses
and then fills out what you typed in later,
it's technically sitting in memory.
Right.
So the Mac actually will lose the middle of what I typed.
So if I type like 10 words,
it'll go boopity boopity boop, can't keep up.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Boopity boopity at the end.
And I have to fill back in the middle.
And I have to wait around to fill back in the middle.
That's not good.
It's driving me bananas.
Yep, yep, that's not okay.
That's super bad.
So now I don't even, I have no idea
what I was supposed to be talking about.
I'm talking about some 30 versus 60 FPS debate.
Oh yeah, that's stupid crap again.
All right, so Digital Foundry tries to make a case
for 30 FPS and it's basically the same old bloody thing.
I just posted the link in the Twitch chat.
This was posted by Zeridian on the forum.
And now in this case, they're making it very clear.
60 FPS is the better option when possible.
And I think in this way, they're doing a better job
of maybe not putting PR spin on it quite as much
as some other companies are trying to
by calling it more cinematic.
But they're just being realistic
and trying to address the issue from the perspective
of like what's actually going on?
Why are we making these choices?
And so they basically say things like,
in lots of scenarios, frame rate limiting
can result in markedly smoother gameplay.
And they have a point.
They do have a point because some people find screen tearing
more objectionable than the slight,
well, I shouldn't even call it slight, I hate it.
But the latency that's associated with Vsync
or the advantages associated with having 48 FPS
versus being knocked all the way down to 30.
Some people find tearing very objectionable.
And for people with Vsync, if their computer performance
is on the edge and sometimes they'll dip down to 58 FPS
and sometimes they'll be at 65, every time it dips to 58,
it's gonna dip all the way to 30
because that's the way Vsync works.
And those stutters where the display
has to put the same frame up twice are terrible.
You really, really feel that.
So in a case where you were gonna run at 42 FPS,
you're probably better off from a smoothness standpoint,
just running at 30, unless you've got something like G-Sync,
which allows the display to refresh only as often
as the graphics card outputs a new frame
in order to have 42 FPS smoothness versus 30 FPS
or like 60.
The only problem I have with this is,
this is not what anyone was arguing about
at any point in time.
They didn't actually address anything.
No. At all.
Nope.
Because this is a big part of the reason
why people push for certain FPS limits
and why they say 30 FPS is bad.
It's the exact same thing you were just talking about.
If you're running at 30 FPS and it dips below,
that's super not good.
If you're running at 45 FPS, 40 FPS,
and you can limit it down a little bit
and you don't have dips, then fine.
Or if you don't wanna do that and you can run at 40 or 45,
then fine, that's better.
But if we were running at 56,
then I'd rather we turn down the details a little bit
and push for 60 versus running at 40.
But this isn't even what they're talking about.
I mean, they're saying, okay.
That's what I mean.
It has nothing to do with the conversation
that's actually going on.
They're just talking on the side and it doesn't matter.
Yeah, it's basically a summary, as far as I can tell.
So there's stuff like...
Okay, and I disagree with the point that 30 FPS
with motion blur results in a good...
Okay, no, I agree it results in a consistent presentation.
You don't agree that it's good.
I don't agree that it's good at all.
I think it's terrible.
Artificial motion blur after the fact is awful
because you have to think about how motion blur works.
Motion blur is the difference between one frame
and another one being kind of smeared.
So when you only know the last frame
and you don't know the next frame,
you can never do it correctly
because these images are coming at your eyes so fast,
they have to be all blurred together
in a way that is realistic looking.
So when there's motion blur
and you quickly pan back and forth,
like say, for example, you might do an,
I don't know, any game ever.
Maybe not like, you know, driving games
are a good example of where motion blur can work.
Unless you get,
unless it's like an arcade-y style driving game
and someone can fishtail you or t-bone you and your car goes.
Oh, then it's a mess, isn't it?
It just looks awful.
But in FPS games where you might be looking
around this corner, looking around that one,
mind you, I'm going like this as if I'm holding a mouse
and it's not like with a controller,
you can look fast anywhere anyway.
So in those cases, when you jerk like that,
the motion blur effect is gonna,
whatever, it's gonna kind of bleed the wrong way.
It's gonna predictably try to go that way.
Oh, actually it went this way.
Oh crap, and then it's gonna adjust itself.
And it doesn't know when you're gonna wanna stop.
And especially if you rapidly go back the other direction,
like if you're just checking and then you go back,
it's pretty bad.
It does do a good job
as long as the motion on screen is predictable
of making 30 FPS look a lot smoother.
But the problem is that it's an interactive medium,
not television.
And if it's television, it's fine.
So there was one other thing in here
that I wanted to talk about.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I can't remember what it was.
All right, let's move on to the next thing then.
Shall we?
Sure.
All right.
It's just a summary and it just,
it doesn't really matter.
They didn't really say anything.
Super cool.
This is hardly tech to be perfectly used.
I don't see it tech at all.
Okay, it's not tech.
I just thought this was cool.
I was the one who added this to the doc this week.
So the world's first underground park.
It's definitely cool.
Could be coming sometime in 2018.
I just posted the link in the Twitch chat.
Let's go ahead and screen share with Linus.
One of these days,
I'm gonna remember to wire up this connection
because my wireless reception in this room is terrible.
Or we could install that router that I was testing
or that access point.
Excuse me, excuse me.
Oh, did I just call it a router?
Wow.
You did to me yesterday too.
I know, I know.
It's a bad, it's a consumer habit.
Well, it's wireless.
Is there for a router?
No, it's an access point.
So if we installed that access point,
yeah, that would be a good thing.
The bad-ass one.
Yeah, I'll tell you about it after.
But I was getting 10 megabit from the mailbox.
There's a house.
I know.
Aside from this house.
Isn't there like one and a half?
No, it's about two walls of one house.
So it kind of cuts it at a diagonal.
But there is actually a neighbor's entire house
with wall insulation,
two walls worth in between the mailbox
and that access point.
And I was using a phone.
Like I didn't have like a frigging dish pointed at it.
Unreal.
So New York City plans to create the low line,
the world's first underground park.
So it was inspired by the high line,
which reused these train tracks
and turn them into kind of like an eco beautiful
kind of park thing.
So this is a concept art thing.
So the article here is from thestar.com.
I think it's really cool.
So there are some technical challenges.
They are gonna have a lot of work ahead of them.
This is all part of like that lower east side
transformation project thing that's going on.
But basically they're gonna have to figure out
how to get natural light 20 feet down
and figure out what kind of plants
they're gonna be able to grow there.
And they're converting what was an old trolley station
into an underground park.
Now-
Yeah, I think it's cool.
Like when I was saying,
oh, it has nothing to do with tech.
Yeah, like I don't see,
obviously there's tech going into this,
but like I don't see it being like,
oh yeah, they're running PCs,
which manage the windows for the natural light.
No, no, I haven't seen any of that yet,
but it is cool regardless.
That'd be kind of funny.
Like, oh, they're running Linux.
People's are freaking out.
That'd be pretty entertaining, but no,
I haven't seen any of that kind of stuff yet.
Didn't happen.
Nope, not even close.
Not even sure what on earth you're talking about.
I wonder if they're even gonna end up doing it.
The park?
Yeah, cause isn't it just like they're raising money, right?
Yeah, they're raising money,
but they've already raised a fair chunk of it.
And I think, okay,
like there are some critics of the whole plan.
So on the surface it looks like,
oh, hey, we're taking a completely crowded area
and we're creating like a public space in it,
which is great.
It's underground.
It's very efficient.
But then, you know, we'll hold on a second.
You know, what about when this is rented out
for private function this and event that,
are we actually creating any public space out of it?
And the answer is,
no.
Well, the private money that comes from events like that
will keep it free because right now
very little public money is actually being put into it.
So the public doesn't really get to complain too much
if it's not being paid for out of the taxpayers pockets.
I mean, this is the second cool thing
we've talked about in New York.
So the first thing they had was those wifi hotspots,
which some people were talking about
about how that was a bad idea.
And basically you're wrong.
Why was that a bad idea?
I don't remember.
It was some ridiculous thing,
but it's any more public wifi,
even if it's not the most amazing thing ever
is better than no public wifi.
After being in the EU and like Germany, especially,
Germany has like basically no public wifi.
And there's a lot of times where I was just like,
I just really need to have Google maps load
for like a minute and then I'm fine.
Yeah, Necrowave says, yeah, they're going for it.
It was just being,
I think it's been used for storage since 1935.
Well, yeah, like it's been just sitting there doing nothing.
Apparently the I-beams look like they're in pretty good shape
considering they'd been there over a hundred years.
I was reading up on a little bit of history.
This thing was only in use like regularly
for I think about 35 or 40 years.
Something along those lines.
I mean, huge investment building an underground station.
And so at least they're gonna get some use out of it
other than whatever the thing that I just said.
Storage, thank you.
I am not at my best today guys.
I actually had, so this is just Linus Media Group news,
not really real news.
So maybe he's just stalling for time.
Maybe he thinks it's important, we don't know.
Maybe both.
But I actually sat down with NCIX today.
And so a lot of people express confusion about this
on a very regular basis.
Do I work at NCIX?
Do I not work at NCIX?
I do not work at NCIX.
I am not an employee of NCIX.
I am an independent entity and I have my own company.
But they do contract me to shoot videos
for NCIX Tech Tips, the YouTube channel that I started.
Where I uploaded my first YouTube video.
So obviously there's some sentimental reasons
why I keep going back there.
But we sat down today to decide
if we were gonna renew our deal.
And the original deal was two years.
So I've actually been away from NCIX
for almost two years now.
And it looks like we are gonna renew for another year.
So you can expect to keep seeing more of me
over on NCIX Tech Tips.
Okay.
Well, it's not finalized yet,
but that looks like how it's gonna go.
This, wow, how hard did I call this one?
What one?
Where?
AT&T, the next topic down.
Oh, the back's off halting their $5.00.
I have very bad memory when it comes to what we do
on this show because we rapid everything so much.
You don't even listen to me, do you?
I do.
You just do your own thing.
I listen to you.
We should just split this into-
This is a two-way relationship.
We should split this into two shows.
So the way it's gonna work is Luke's gonna get his mic.
I'm gonna get my mic.
Do you have to dual stream it?
We're gonna draw a line down the middle of the couch.
Like 90s sitcom style.
Draw the line.
Split the room, yeah.
You don't touch my side of the line.
And then we'll have two channels of audio.
So those of you who wanna listen to me
can just put in the one side.
Those of you who wanna listen to the other one,
put in the other side.
Anyone with speakers, you're hooped.
So let's go ahead and switch over to my screen here.
Finally loaded, I'm done stalling.
We'd have to do like the acapella kind of thing
where we both talk about the same topic at the same time,
but say different words.
How is that acapella?
Don't, well, don't they, you'll be singing a song,
but you can sing different parts of it.
Um bup, um bup, um bup, um bup, um bup, um bup, um bup.
It's not acapella in bowl, but it's common in acapella
for different people in the group
to be singing different parts of the song.
So what, this show's about acapella now?
All right, let's hear a demo.
You doing acapella?
No.
Nick!
Actually, Nick, to my, I've never heard him sing,
but my understanding is he's actually really good.
Yeah.
Um, so AT&T sees delays on fiber rollouts
of two to three years,
but the one thing that they have completely gone back on
is their CEO came out and said,
blah, blah, blah, Obama, blah, blah, blah,
support net neutrality, blah, blah, blah.
Well, that whole plan we had to roll out fiber
to a hundred metropolitan areas.
You guys actually paid for,
and then we just took the money from.
We're just gonna sit on our butts and not do anything
until we know how the laws are gonna be going to,
blah, blah, blah.
We're not gonna invest in this
unless we know what we're getting out of it.
And so they have since revised that statement
because it's ridiculous.
What, you're just gonna completely,
like whether it's managed the same way as phone lines
where there's, they have to have neutrality.
You can't prefer one connection over another one,
whether it's managed that way or some other way,
it's still very profitable.
Hello.
Phone lines are fantastic.
Phone lines are still profitable
and that gets managed that way.
So it's just a matter of, it's a pure money grab.
So it's not like you're just gonna completely stop investing
in the business that made you what you are
because you're not gonna get your way about something.
So, but they have said that it'll be
a two to three year delay.
I mean, I don't know if this whole Google Fiber thing
is working out the way Google wanted it to
because they never wanted to be an ISP.
My perception, and I could be totally wrong
and Google can call me up on my cell phone.
I'm sure they know my number.
They know everything about me.
Google could call me up and tell me,
look Linus, you're wrong about this.
But my perception of this was that Google never wanted
to be a player as an ISP.
They just wanted to do it like once and be like,
yo world, please talk about this.
And yo ISPs, it doesn't cost that freaking much.
Y'all need to like get your crap together
and start doing this.
I don't think they wanted to be rolling it out
to city after city after city.
That wasn't the point.
But now it kind of might be.
They might have to.
And now with AT&T doing stuff like this,
like screw you, don't build binds.
Who cares?
Go in the corner and die.
Let people like Google come in and build actually good stuff
and let everyone move over to them.
I read something, I think I don't know if it was Imgur,
Reddit, something, it was one of those kind of websites
where someone was talking about just read the headline
that I was like, what the hell?
I had to click on the picture.
But it's like when that hot girl moves in next door
and wants to hang out with you.
And now those girls that used to live next door
are clawing for your attention.
And then you click on it
and it shows like a Google Fiber building being built.
I'm like, oh my God, that's so true.
And hopefully they build these buildings everywhere
so that that happens
because everyone's gonna want to get Google Fiber
and then AT&T and all those other butt heads
will have to be better
or else they will crawl in a corner and die.
And I think everyone would be okay with that.
This is kind of funny.
I have no way of validating any of this,
but I kind of have to acknowledge this.
I just got a text.
Yep, you're right about Google Fiber,
former Google employee.
Well, I don't think it was even a secret.
I mean, that was what they pretty much said publicly
is like, this is the point of this.
We don't want to be an ISP.
This is not our business.
Screw off, go do what you're supposed to be doing.
We don't want to do this.
We want to make self-driving cars.
We want to build cool crap that goes on your wrist
and on your glasses.
We don't want to just like lay down fiber.
But they're the best at it
because they don't hate everyone, including their customers.
Speaking of laying down fiber,
so our original source here is Ars Technica.
I just love the name of their site.
I know it's Ars, but it looks like Ars.
Where are we going?
What a great site.
I went down a lot.
Yeah, what the, what are we talking about?
Okay, so this is, yeah.
So Chanute, Kansas, a town of roughly 9,000 people.
9,000 awesome people.
Yeah, awesome people, by the way.
Petitioning the state to allow it to offer greater access
to the high-speed fiber network
that it built to support town utility operations.
AT&T filed to officially intervene in the case.
All right, so any decision made by the KCC
could impact AT&T's business operations in the area,
which is why we asked to intervene in the proceedings,
an AT&T rep said.
Ars Technica reports that Chanute,
oh, here we go, hold on a second.
Let me just, would charge its citizens just $40 a month
for one gigabit service, which is only $5 more
than the discounted, like.
Six month entry rate,
which you probably have to sign on to a contract for,
so it'll be way more expensive after those six months.
For six megabit service.
AT&T also includes a hard data cap of 150 gigs a month,
and exceeding that costs you $10 per month.
Chanute officials think the state will rule in their favor.
Hopefully they do.
Yeah, so this is, guys in Chanute,
yeah, I would love to see more towns do this.
Just, you know what?
If the ISPs aren't going to treat the internet
like it's just a part of, like it's a utility,
if they're not gonna do it, then fine.
The city should just build their own utilities.
You know, the way it works for every other utility.
And since we finally got to the point
where we don't need that existing infrastructure,
like that whole deal with these private companies
owning all of the phone lines all over the entire country,
well, we've got an opportunity right now
where those phone lines aren't really needed anymore.
So if it's time to invest,
and they don't wanna move
into the next century of communications,
then okay, okay, take it back, city.
I would happily submit my tax dollars.
I would happily, if the city said, look,
we're gonna spend 1% of all the tax money that we collect
on upgrading the internet in this city
and booting out the ISPs
that have been crapping on it the entire time,
I'd say, you know what?
I love the garbage collection service I have from the city.
City seems to be doing a bang up job
of the kind of stuff that they spend my money on.
Build me the internet, I'll give you a 2%.
Heck, I'll give you a 5%.
I will pay more taxes
if the city's doing the kinds of things
that really are meaningful to me like that, so.
That's a good point because like,
I've always kind of talked about,
obviously not on the WAN Show,
but how like phone lines
are actually really impressive infrastructure.
And then stuff like garbage collection,
you don't notice it
because it's never really going wrong.
Isn't it amazing?
That's beautiful.
If we could have that with the internet,
that would be fantastic.
If my internet maybe was, you know, not the fastest thing,
but if it arrived as reliably as my garbage truck,
I want it to be fast.
Ignore that.
Your garbage truck is pretty quick though.
Who clocks a garbage truck?
Is it regular?
Ours at work is regular.
Yes.
So anyway, AT&T,
I wish I was wearing a keep on digging shirt today
because you guys are just yahoos.
You guys are the poop heads this week.
Yeah.
I don't think we have any Ubisoft topics.
Actually, the crew seems totally fine.
I was benchmarking it today.
Oh yeah, do you want to talk about that a bit?
I don't really have a ton to talk about.
I didn't see any like manual save option,
which I think makes sense
because I'm pretty sure it's like an MMO.
So what I did was just,
when you first drop into the game,
I believe it's the start of a tutorial mission.
You get into what's kind of like a cop chase.
Some guy calls you up and he's like,
oh, what are you doing?
He's like, I'm being chased by cops.
He's like, you better get out of that
because you have a race tonight.
And then that's all I've seen of the game so far.
So I race towards the objective
and then I get to the objective.
My two minute benchmark is not done.
So I U-turn and go back.
And then the two minute benchmark ends
and I close the whole game and then just do it again.
Lot of great discussion about
whether internet infrastructure
should be handled by the government or not.
And one person brought up a point of,
well, what if your government decides
to blacklist certain websites?
Well, they're already buddy buddy anyway.
If your government wants to blacklist something
or spy on you, it's not like they're not already doing it.
Yes.
And I'm not, I don't mean for that to be like a defeatist.
We should just accept that they're going to spy on us.
We shouldn't.
And censor us.
But the fact of the matter is,
if they're not already doing it,
they're probably not going to,
because they already can,
depending on the legislation and the government in place.
In Canada, it's less of an issue for now.
We have that spy palace thing.
We'll see what Captain Hunt.
It's pretty bad.
I wish they'd stopped voting that guy in.
It's the first time I've ever.
We should be talking about politics on the show.
It's the first time I've ever wished that I was in America.
Because in America, you can only serve two terms max.
There is no other reason why I would wish I was in America.
Let's continue to not talk about politics
and move on with the show.
I'm just talking about like, steam broadcasting.
Speaking of, actually speaking of politics,
was Sony hacked by North Korea?
Oh, yeah.
So Sony Pictures has a movie slated for release
pretty shortly here.
I'm just gonna go ahead and pop that link in there.
Where, it's called The Interview,
where, who's playing these?
Who's playing the characters?
I don't know, I pay so little attention
to movies these days.
It's the, yeah, I don't know.
Seth Rogen and James Franco play two reporters
who are granted an audience with Kim Jong-un.
Do they run out of pineapples and go on express trains?
The CIA then enlists the pair to assassinate him
and North Korea described the film as an act of war
and an undisguised sponsoring of terrorism
and called on the US and UN to block it.
Sorry, North Korea, that's really not the way it works here.
Blocking a film because it's about,
can you imagine if every film
about trying to assassinate a US president was banned?
There's no more action films.
They're all gone.
Every movie that every action star ever made.
I mean, and if we censored things
the way that North Korea does, we would,
I mean, we'd be removing the IMDb entire entries for,
entire action stars.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.
Action as a genre would become like,
what was it?
Scorpion King, that's like it.
It's pretty much the only thing, there's more I'm sure.
This cyber attack, several films were stolen and released.
So unreleased films were released in full quality.
It was rumored and I haven't followed up on this
but it was rumored at the time it was happening
that the PlayStation 4, I wanna say, source code was stolen.
Oh no, like a bunch of stuff was stolen.
I know it was bad.
I haven't looked exactly into what happened.
The unreleased film thing is pretty intense.
PlayStation 4 source code, that's, yeah.
Yeah, no, it might've been PlayStation 3 or something.
Can't remember all the details but.
Sony needs to wake the hell up.
Yeah, this isn't the first time they've been hit
and had a major leak like this.
Yeah, that's my point as to why they need to wake up.
This doc is huge, I can't find anything.
All right.
But yeah, they need to clue in,
stop holding things in plain text.
Entire Excel sheets with people's passwords,
it's not acceptable on any level for anyone.
I don't think even I have Excel sheets of passwords.
That's just stupid.
You have a picture.
Do I?
What passwords are they?
A lot of them.
Really?
Yeah.
What picture, do you have this picture?
Cause I don't.
I found it and was like, wow, that's dumb.
And then kept on looking for whatever I was looking for.
Oh, all right, apparently I have a picture.
At least it's harder to.
It might not exist anymore.
I found that a long time ago.
And a picture would actually be potentially more secure
than a plain text document.
It's a lot harder to scrub through.
A bot wouldn't, well, a bot,
you probably wouldn't make it look for that.
Cause that wouldn't make much sense.
You could make it look for that,
but it probably wouldn't look for an Excel sheet
in a picture.
Yeah.
It might look for text in general in a picture.
Yeah, but it's much less likely
than like scrubbing word in Excel documents.
Cause it's way easier to just scrub word in Excel documents.
All right, so let's go ahead and move on to Steam.
Offering Steam streaming.
Wow, this is very interesting.
Steam is determined,
Valve is just determined to do all the things.
If I have this, I don't know if I have this or not.
Cause it's a beta client thing, right?
Yeah, just everyone with it.
This is open to everyone who uses Steam,
as long as you opt into the beta client.
Okay, so I guess I do have it.
I might try it tonight.
Just to kind of give it a shot?
Yeah, just to see how it works.
It is not very feature rich yet.
Of course, I just, yeah.
Yeah, so I don't think it even supports a webcam yet.
Although guys, correct me in Twitch chat if I'm wrong.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And like with all the Steam stuff,
it changes so rapidly that, who knows?
But what I might even do is just be streaming on Twitch
and then try it, start Steam streaming
while I'm streaming on Twitch and just see what happens.
So what's cool is,
and I was saying in the intro for the show today,
that this feels a little bit more natural a way
to start watching some one game
than navigating to a site like Twitch.
And I don't think that Twitch is gonna go away
because I think for major events,
Twitch is gonna be the go-to destination for a long time.
And I mean long time in the internet sense,
it could change tomorrow, but.
Assuming nothing changes for the foreseeable future,
Twitch is gonna be the destination for that.
But for people who don't even know what Twitch TV is,
like have never heard of it.
There's more people than you would think.
Which is a lot of people, a lot of gamers even.
Something like this is a lot more natural.
Like, hey, my buddy's playing Dota
or my buddy's playing Team Fortress.
And all you do is you click on it
and you'd spectate the game.
What a natural way to do that.
Because the thing about Twitch is there's a lot of,
the way it's structured is it's great for creators
to interact with viewers and it's great
for concurrent viewers to interact with each other.
But beyond that, the social infrastructure
of the site is not very deep.
Not compared to something like Steam
where you can transfer files to each other,
you can trade in-game items,
you can chat with each other in group chats individually,
and you can voice chat with each other.
Like it's more, it's a very social platform.
So for someone who's not interested in watching a stream,
but is interested in chatting with Buddy
while they play a game, what a great way to do that.
So.
I could see this being pretty cool for a few reasons.
Like if someone doesn't feel like streaming at the time,
because streaming on Twitch,
I think one thing that people don't understand
is like streaming games on Twitch
isn't just playing the game
and happening to have other people watching you.
It's broadcasting.
It's broadcasting.
You're live.
You have to be, it's energy draining.
It's not the easiest thing on the planet.
But if like your buddy at home is working on homework,
but wants to see how your Dota matches are going,
it could be cool for him to be able to just tune in
and then it's just you and him maybe on Skype or Vent
or TeamSpeak or whatever.
That's much more relaxing
and just you and your buddy hanging out
instead of you streaming to unknown amounts of people.
Yeah.
And it just, it feels a lot more like the old days
when it was a single player game
and even if you had two controllers,
you had to take turns
and just kind of sitting and watching
and playing a game together.
Like that's, I think it's very cool.
I think it's pretty cool.
I don't think it's gonna do anything
in terms of like trumping Twitch
because it doesn't seem,
that doesn't seem like their goal at all.
I think this is another cool way
to interact with your buddies on Steam.
I've got someone asking if I ever found the list
of GIFs of Team Fanatic Pixel Walking.
It was actually a list of,
I keep forgetting his, Flesha's.
Flesha's like just a panic button aimbot
where he just presses a button
and snaps to the head of the nearest opponent.
Through walls or through whatever.
It's hilarious.
Through two walls and four boxes,
it just magically goes to his head.
And no, I never looked for it again,
so I haven't found it.
All right, Smash Bros on Wii U.
This is from Gamnesia.
I don't think I'm gonna talk about this a great deal,
but basically watch out.
Some people's consoles are actually bricking,
so.
I've heard a lot of mixed information about this.
Yeah.
Some people are saying it's Smash Bros.
Some people are saying it's just,
a lot of people are playing Smash Bros right now,
which makes a ton of sense.
But some people are saying it's based off
of Smash Bros' patch.
We don't know what's causing it,
so watch out.
Maybe someone does,
but there's so many different people saying
so many different things
that I don't wanna say a confirmation.
You know, I would love to do a comedy sketch
of just a warning.
So just the most random warning,
and then like people reacting to it.
So if you just put like a caution sign,
like in the middle of nowhere,
with no obvious danger around it,
like how would people react to that?
Warning.
You'd be looking for the danger, right?
Oh my God, it would be fun to like,
if you're walking through a park,
and like you find other people
that are walking through the park,
and just like have you and your buddy in yellow vests,
like jog at a fairly fast,
not running, but jogging at a fairly fast pace,
run ahead of them,
and then just right in the middle of the walkway,
just put it like a pike sign into the,
oh my God, and then just run back.
And then just getting people's reactions.
What a great, what a great video that'd be.
All right, so next up,
we've got our last topic before the sponsor break,
but this one is one that's obviously
gonna get his panties all wet.
More Tesla news.
We should just change the show to not Oculus anymore,
because there hasn't been much coming out of Oculus lately.
Just Tesla.
Wait for CES though.
Wait for CES.
There's Oculus,
and I can't remember the name of them right now,
but another VR company
that have booths really close to each other.
He sends me an email or like hangouts message
in like the middle of the night.
Oh, call dibs, call dibs.
I'm like, I'm not going to those booths.
As if you have to call dibs on the Oculus booth.
I'm gonna buy an Oculus,
and I'm gonna play the crap out of the Valkyrie,
but like, I'm not as into it as I am.
I just want to make sure we're all on the same page here.
You're on the same page.
You're on your own page,
but I'm aware of the page and that's fine.
Yeah. Okay.
All right.
So this is from gizmodo.com,
and there's actually the model S,
like if we couldn't have imagined
a way that it could get better.
Yeah.
Musk can.
So what do we got?
Knowing Tesla,
it's gonna cost a bunch more money,
but you don't have to go with this option.
So it's another version of the model S.
There's an additional front motor.
I hate that they're calling it the new Tesla model S.
I hope they do something.
No, I think the idea behind it is
when you pick a model S,
you pick like the baseline version
and there's multiple versions.
So it's probably not the new,
like how Nintendo does with the little
like sticker symbol thing.
New, new Nintendo.
Mario brothers, Wii U plus new adventure galaxy.
Yeah, no, I don't think they're doing that.
What I'm expecting is happening
is when you go to configure your model S,
when you're ordering it,
it's a different base, like starting line.
Right.
Cause there's like the more,
like not as fast, not as great battery style,
but cheaper one.
And then like, there's all the different versions, right?
So what improvements do we get here?
Other than the one that I obviously spoiled
on the thing on my side here, the dual motors.
Yeah, you get an additional front motor,
which has 221 brake horsepower,
bringing the car's total power up to supercar-like
691 brake horsepower, which is pretty intense.
A combined torque is even more impressive
at 931 Newton meters going,
growing from 362, which is actually kind of insane.
And the car weighs 2,239 kilograms.
They're comparing it to, well, okay.
I think this Gizmodo website is comparing it.
I don't think Tesla is,
to the new Dodge challenger Hellcat,
which produces 707 brake horsepower
and 881 Newton meters of torque
and weighs a little bit less actually at 2018 kilograms.
Now, obviously one thing that has to be brought up
is like, they're comparing it to the Hellcat.
The Hellcat is like this crazy, massive,
like gasoline petrol-based engine,
and they're comparing an electric engine to it.
These things are gonna perform very differently.
Electric motor, to be clear.
Motor, yes, sorry.
They're gonna perform very differently.
So you can't just be like, look at these numbers.
They're exactly referential
to this other completely different thing.
It's not necessarily fair.
To the Hellcat,
because the Tesla actually has a faster zero to 100.
Yes, actually, most definitely.
So what is it?
3.2 seconds to the Hellcat's 3.7 seconds?
So not an insignificant difference.
But then what I was talking about though is like,
so you've got that zero to 60, I think that's-
Also the Hellcat looks redonkulous.
That's zero to 100 kilometers per hour.
Zero to 60 mile, yeah, so it's a zero to 60, basically.
Yeah, and then, but their top speeds,
Tesla's max speed is 250 kilometers per hour.
Dodge's max speed, or the Hellcat's max speed
is 328 kilometers per hour.
Now, max speed has never been something
that makes any sense to me.
I totally agree, and I like the Tesla setup more.
I just, I'm trying to make sure that everyone
is on the same page, that these are very different.
As like a biker, like I love sport bikes,
I, my sport bike doesn't have a great top speed.
I think it only does around 220 kilometers an hour.
I say I think because I've never tested that.
But off the line, I mean, you can't touch it.
It's a motorbike.
And so I would much rather have, I mean,
especially driving on the streets, you can always,
when you wanna have-
There's the red light that's way too close.
When you wanna have fun driving on the street,
your only options really are quick acceleration.
You can't go fast, you're gonna hurt someone.
So being able to go from, you know,
zero to a hundred in no time flat
when you're merging onto the highway
is really the only time you're ever gonna let it out.
And so, you know, a top speed of 250 kilometers per hour
is lots. More than fine, yeah.
And I completely agree with that whole idea,
but I'm just, again, just trying to make sure
that people understand that these are two
extremely different beasts and should be looked at
in different lights, whichever one you like more.
So we're still five to six years away
from a true self driving car thinks must,
but the new Model S has an incredible array of sensors
that are intended to better inform the driver
of conditions around the car
and which can take some limited control to avoid crashes.
So some of the things it can do with the,
what all does it have on it?
I can't even remember.
Long range radar, image recognition camera,
360 ultrasonic radar, and GPS data integration
with real time traffic.
So if you signal on the highway,
it can change lanes for you when it's safe, kind of cool.
It can detect oncoming obstacles,
like a sudden obstruction, say for example,
they don't give this example,
but I would think something like a deer
or a moose running out onto the road
and it can automatically apply the brake.
Yeah, can check blind spots.
I'm super into the 360 degree ultrasonic radar.
That's super cool. I like that a lot.
Love all this stuff.
You still haven't been in one, right?
I have never.
Yeah, okay, at CTIA, yeah, there we go.
We got it eventually.
I got to see one and that was by far
the coolest thing about that entire show.
But anyways, anyways, it's pretty cool.
And like the whole, how the handles go in the car
for aerodynamic reasons, right?
Even if you just ignore the fact
that that's for aerodynamic reasons, it's pretty bad-ass.
You have to have the key in your pocket,
but like you walk into the car and put your hand out.
It's just like, oh, that's cool.
I still see stuff like that
as a bit of an over-engineering thing.
It's another thing to break from my perspective,
but then I don't know that the typical customer
for a Model S cares if it breaks 10 years down the line
because they'll probably have a new car by then.
Yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised
if on the like much more reasonable version,
which is going to come out in however long,
which is supposed to be like 30 whatever thousand.
Yeah, the D.
Birdie, is that the D?
I thought that was-
I think that's the D.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't think that's the D.
No, sorry.
The D is more than that, if I recall correctly.
Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead.
Anyways, I seriously doubt that car
is going to have the automatically receipt.
Yeah, so it's no big deal.
All right, so Stephen Hawking is getting an upgrade
courtesy of Intel and, of all people, SwiftKey.
So he's been using the same system for,
oh, Lord, how long is it?
Can't remember.
It's in the article here,
it's been for over a decade, if I recall correctly.
And Mr. Hawking, sorry, Professor Hawking,
is not interested in some of the new technologies
like eye tracking, but did work with them
on a new, more predictive style of input,
some rearranging of the menus.
And then now that the whole thing,
or once the whole thing is finished being developed,
what's cool is that Intel is going to make
the whole source code open source.
So many badass things were just said.
I love that SwiftKey's working on this.
I love that Intel's working on this.
I love that they're releasing everything publicly.
I'm actually super down with him not being into eye tracking
because all of the eye tracking demos
that I've used so far were kind of trash,
so I completely understand why he's not into that.
I think this is great.
This is really cool.
There's a really cool comment on the SwiftKey blog
from a 17-year-old who's suffering
from the same thing as Professor Hawking,
and who basically said, yeah,
my computer software is so outdated
that I can't upgrade from XP.
It has no support for new operating systems,
and SwiftKey's already engaged here
in talking about we'd like to have someone from our team
reach out to chat further about our work in the area.
When I complain about no SwiftKey on iOS,
or I complain about the fact that SwiftKey
is kind of rubbish on iOS still,
people think that I'm talking about swipe typing.
I'm not.
I hate swipe.
No, I don't use it either.
I don't use swipe at all,
but I do use the SwiftKey keyboard
because their predictive text is
Really good.
pretty good performance.
It's been a little worse lately for me,
but pretty good performance and way smarter
than most of the other ones I've used
because it actually looks at my history,
so the system that they're building here,
I'm assuming, would also be a learning predictive model
that actually gears itself towards the things
that you usually say.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
Really cool.
Do you sync it with everything?
Yeah, me too.
I know some people that don't,
and I'm just like, ah, I want my texting to slowly,
I'm slowly getting away from the shorthand texting stuff
because with full keyboards, it's faster, so whatever,
and if it's predicting so well,
if I need to type something long,
usually within the first three or four letters,
it figures it out anyways,
so I sync it with my email,
which I try to write in more full sentences,
and I'm trying to move everything to better grammar
and better formatting,
so I like that SwiftKey actually works for that.
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This is a shirt?
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Here's your Mega Man helmet.
Oh, it's a Halo grenade thing.
Drop pod, I think it's a,
is it a grenade? I think it's a drop pod.
Yeah, it's a drop pod.
So it includes a super poseable micro action figure.
I feel like, I feel like,
I feel like the old unboxing days.
Oh my goodness.
Just like opening up like some random thing.
Just being like, cool.
What is this?
I don't know.
How does it work?
Look, there's ports on it.
These are all the fan headers on the motherboard.
This is what it says on the box.
So it's a metallic series figure.
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What do you got?
What else we got in here?
Oh, okay.
Oh, that's a little tiny,
it's a little tiny master chief.
I need my knife.
What do you got?
Is that it?
It's a street fighter headband.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Show you can,
this is amazing.
Anytime, I suck at fighting games.
Anytime I play a fighting game in the future,
I will be wearing my street fighter headband.
This is, it's just like a,
oh, it's a mega blocks halo guy.
So it comes with a little mega blocks,
like block, like a two by four block,
and then he stands on it or doesn't.
Oh, oh.
Does he stand on it?
Maybe he has to stand on the front.
He has to stand.
Yeah, there we go.
I just had to fix his posture.
And it comes with a little tiny gun.
And of course it's a pistol.
Yeah.
Because this is so OP.
It's not a halo one.
And what else we got here?
This appears to, oh, he's got a backpack.
There we go.
I'm liking my master chief.
What else you got in there?
There's an Assassin's Creed coin.
So it's from Unity.
So like, if the game is lagging out so much
that you can't spend coins in game,
you can like pretend to spend coins in real life.
Yeah, I mean, in Loot Crate's defense,
this coin was probably arranged
before they knew the game was gonna suck donkey crap.
And like, if this was Assassin's Creed 4,
and this had showed up before Assassin's Creed 4,
and this was a coin from Assassin's Creed 4,
you would probably be super stoked.
You know what?
And it's actually a really nice coin too.
If we do this just right,
it kind of looks like a four on the back.
There you go.
Yeah, so you could pretend it's Assassin's Creed 4.
Black flag.
And then you could just, yeah, okay.
Well, it does say Unity on the front of it.
So you could just never look at it on that side.
Put it down on the table.
Turn this into your true face coin.
So you cross out the Unity side,
and then it's like, yeah, oh, it doesn't die
because it's not the Unity side.
Because it's the more generic Assassin's Creed logo
instead of the, okay.
Okay, well, that's not bad for 13 bucks.
Yeah, it's actually pretty cool.
And you also get a little pin.
Loot Crate, November, 2014, battle theme.
So they have different themes and stuff.
I was talking to Nick about it,
and I was like, whenever it happens,
just in case my brother's watching this,
like I'm not asking you to have one, obviously.
But whenever it happens, if my brother has a baby,
what I would do is just get Loot Crate,
and then like every time that, once it's older,
every time that it like comes to hang out with me,
I can be that cool uncle that like
has all that cool nerd swag stuff.
And I'll just be like, here, you get these things.
And they'll be like, wow,
how did you find such cool nerd swag?
And they'll be like, I tirelessly.
I pretty much hunt for this stuff all around the world.
Like eBay, every day for my entire life
to have all this cool swag.
I'll hunt down these little things, yeah.
All right, speaking of things that-
I'm just gonna keep wearing the-
You may do that if you would desire to do that.
All right, let's move on to our next topic here,
which is I remember making fun of this thing.
And basically my conclusion being,
yeah, that seems like a great idea in theory.
Oh, sorry, the Lootcrate link is lootcrate.com slash Linus.
Nick's all like, yo dog,
you might not have actually called that out.
Lootcrate.com slash Linus.
All right, so this, oh man, this thing was so stupid.
I was like, yeah, I guess it seems like a good idea
in theory, except that motion control
is gonna be completely impossible and it looks way too big.
And the battery life is probably gonna be rubbish.
And it looks like I was 100% right.
The whole thing just looks garbage.
Here we go.
So this stupid thing.
Worst product ever made. Wow, epic.
Okay, worst product ever made ringed by Logbar.
1.2 million views from Snazzy Labs.
So here's their original crowdfunding campaign.
These guys raised almost a million dollars
to make this ring that in theory,
yeah, I mean, look at this thing.
Look how big it is.
So you can tap, you can gesture,
you can draw things in the air.
I think they even said that you would be able to type.
So I'm not gonna, we're not gonna run this whole video.
Is this the same company that was like,
yeah, you can play Halo with it?
I believe so.
I think it was.
Yes, yes, I believe it was.
And they showed someone like typing
on an onscreen keyboard on their TV.
So it has shipped to the original backers
and it is apparently complete garbage.
It was, so they promised the features gesture control,
text transmission, payment information transmission,
receive and alert, and receive alert functions
compatible with greater than iOS 7 and Android 4.4.
And the video that I just showed,
you know what, I should post this video.
Basically, it's like the worst thing ever
and does nothing and doesn't work with anything
and wasn't that cheap and is a complete disaster.
And this is the cautionary tale
that goes along with anyone who thinks they should,
that we should tell to anyone who wants to fund something
on a crowdfunding site.
There is actually one, two,
there are two crowdfunding campaigns that I backed
just so that I could do reviews
of how crap it is when it arrives.
One is the Jibo robot because they're claiming so much.
I find hardware and like when there's physical rewards
on things, I actually shy away from it more.
Like stuff that I've backed that's worked out pretty well.
Okay, Starce isn't, obviously it's not out yet.
I've had fun with it though.
The dogfighting module stuff is pretty good
and it looks like it is actually gonna happen,
so that's cool.
Shovel Knight, I backed that, it came out, it's awesome.
Super happy with that.
But then I also have stories like the dude
who was supposed to make a cookbook
and then just ran away with everyone's money.
Cause he was like, it'll be a manly cookbook.
And like he had like one example page and it was hilarious.
It was so funny and I was like, this is awesome.
Cause if it can make like cooking, entertaining and funny,
then that's cool.
And then it just never made more than one page.
Who was it with that card game where they like spent
all the money on a new office and then they
couldn't put the card game.
And like their one company's debts
or their one employee's debts or something.
Yeah, I don't remember who that was.
And wasn't there one not that long ago,
this was news this week, this isn't in the doc,
but some crap, what were they?
They were a game developer or something like that
and they donated all the money to Anita Sarkeesian
and they can't pay anyone back.
And it's like a big, gigantic fiasco.
And they're like, yeah, I owe a lot of taxes.
So I can't afford to pay anyone back.
It's like, yeah, your taxes are really not the problem
of your backers who gave you money.
Okay, so let's go ahead and yeah,
so the ring total disaster.
Oh, Gunnam Style's view count.
Right.
So yeah, do you wanna go ahead and cover that?
Yeah, where is this?
Okay, so it has, the counter has passed the,
I'm gonna screw this up.
2,147,483,647 view number,
which is when you're, someone's gonna scream at me
because I'm probably gonna say something
ever so slightly wrong.
But when you're programming,
you put things into what are essentially little containers.
So a 32-bit integer supports that number that I just said.
And that integer supports a number that is above zero,
I believe, and up to that number.
So if they get above that number, things go wrong
because it can no longer fit within that container.
The container is too small.
So they upgraded to a 64-bit integer container,
which can hold a number that I can't even say.
It's 9223372036854775804.
Whoa.
It doesn't have decimals or anything like that,
but that won't matter for something like view counts.
Yeah, I don't know, pretty intense.
Signed, assigned 32-bit integer.
There we go, my bad.
It's, it's, yeah.
I don't know.
It's against Google's practices to use unsigned integers,
which actually kind of totally makes sense.
And that's pretty much all we actually have to say.
They have increased the possible amount
and Gangnam Style will continue to go on
as it always has.
Being Gangnam Style.
Yeah.
Yeah, being what Charlie bit my finger never could be.
Yeah.
All right.
Oh, this is really exciting.
So Asus is talking.
I reached out to them about this already
because we so need to cover this.
But Asus has a 27-inch PB279Q coming.
So it's a PB, which means that it's not going
to necessarily have the same pre-calibration as a PA,
but this is a 4K 27-inch 10-bit monitor
with 100% SRGB coverage.
This thing looks freaking awesome.
And it's coming in at an estimated 799.
So under $800, sort of, exactly $800 basically.
So 27-inch, right?
Yeah, for a 27-inch 4K monitor.
Now, 4K is still a bit of a mixed bag on the PC in particular
due to the text and UI element scaling issues
that exist there.
But more affordable displays,
and this will be 60 hertz over DisplayPort,
30 hertz over HDMI.
So more affordable displays being available will,
I think, drive adoption, which will drive developers
to go ahead and make their stuff compatible.
So very, very exciting.
And for gamers in particular, I would imagine at 27-inch 4K,
anti-aliasing is a thing of the past, maybe 2X,
but I can't imagine needing any more than that.
2X at 32-inch 4K already looks pretty darn good to me.
Mm, until Windows Support is a billion times better,
I'm still not super interested.
Okay, CAPTCHA is dead.
Say hello to the new and improved CAPTCHA.
So for those of you who aren't familiar with CAPTCHA,
CAPTCHA is those horrible things that a lot of the time
you don't get right, and you have to re-enter 100 times,
and then you have to re-enter your password and the CAPTCHA,
but those little things with the images that are obscured
and you're not really sure if you're typing the right thing,
to validate that you are indeed a human
and not a robot signing into the website.
So this is the no CAPTCHA reCAPTCHA,
which doesn't rely on just that technology anymore.
So over to you.
It's gonna pre-screen your behavior
and how you use the website to try and identify you
as a human or a robot.
If you take 0.5 of a second to go through the entire form
and try to click that you're a human and not a robot,
it's probably gonna be like,
nope, you're pretty much a robot, not gonna let you in.
So instead of just having you read all this crazy,
annoying crap and entering it wrong four or five times
in a row before you figure out that it's case sensitive
because some of them aren't,
it'll just pre-screen your behavior.
It'll also have other potential things.
So it could have two things going on.
So there's the pre-screening thing,
and it could show you a picture of a cat
and be like, select a picture that's similar.
Not that they haven't already been doing this.
They just might continue to use that style
instead of the really hard to read text.
There's actually, I didn't even see this
at the bottom of the page before, but this is cool.
So brief history of captchas.
So while all of this may sound simple,
there's a high degree of sophistication
behind that modest checkbox.
So captchas have relied on the inability of robots
to solve distorted text.
However, they're saying that their research shows
that today's artificial intelligence
can solve even the most difficult variant
of distorted text at 99.8% accuracy.
So not only are these things annoying,
they're not even a deterrent for AI
that's trying to get through it.
So the distorted text on its own
is no longer a dependable test.
So last year they developed
an advanced risk analysis backend for reCAPTCHA
that actively considers a user's entire engagement
before, during, and after
to determine whether the user is human.
Very, very cool.
I've also seen other variants.
I don't think these are necessarily reCAPTCHA,
but other validation things,
like pick the one that corresponds to the other pictures
and they'll have pictures of animals
and you have to pick the cat.
So cool stuff like that,
but this should be until,
you know, it's always an arms race,
so until something figures out how to beat it,
until you figure out how to make a robot
that perfectly can act like a human being,
which, I don't know, robots have serious problems
being random, so we'll see.
The cool thing about it, though,
is that even if the robot finds a way
to behave in a way that fools the CAPTCHA,
it won't be fast.
Yeah, that's true.
I know it will be actually kind of entertaining, though.
Trying to get CAPTCHAs to think that you're a robot.
Oh, do you think you could do that?
I think you could.
If you took like a mouse and were able to bind things
on your keyboard to change your DPI,
if you could change your X and Y DPI so much
that you moved in exact perfect lines,
I wonder if it would think you're a robot.
If you only moved left and right at a very specific time,
and if you like messed with your mouse,
so it could only move at one speed ever,
no matter how fast you moved it.
Like if you used keyboard input.
Yeah, sure, perfect, keyboard input,
and then like moved your mouse with your arrow keys.
I don't think it would think you're a robot.
You'd be too slow.
You'd be way too slow.
You wouldn't click on like the precise spot
where the cursor box goes.
I kind of want to see.
I'll see if you can do it, but there is no way.
But it would be pretty entertaining.
There is no way you're going to be able to do that.
If someone can make it think that they're a robot,
post it on the forum or something,
that would be entertaining.
All right, copy link URL.
Let's go ahead and throw this in.
So Kmart joins Target in Australia,
pulling Grand Theft Auto 5 off its shelves.
In other news, big box retailers
and the people who apparently petitioned them to do things,
probably need a reality check on gaming.
Yeah, and like,
and like them thinking that it's actually going to stop
people from getting it.
Maybe they don't know.
Well, okay.
I do agree with voting with your wallet
or like putting your money where your mouth is.
And if you want to take a stand on something,
you can't just not take a stand
because no one else will take a stand.
You know, you kind of have to do things.
Well, they're not voting with their wallet.
They were already voting with their wallet
by not buying the game.
I'm sure these ladies didn't buy the game.
Like they're voting with their wallet
by losing out on sales
because they have a moral objection
or whatever kind of rejection.
So spokeswoman for the company announced on Thursday
that the highly popular series
would be removed from shelves immediately
following a significant review of their content.
This misogynistic GTA 5 literally makes a game
of bashing, killing and horrific violence against women.
The petition, which has been signed
by more than 40,000 people said,
you know what the thing about GTA is?
Is that it's bashing, killing and horrific violence
against literally everyone.
Yeah, it's kind of how it works.
I didn't play the whole game,
but up until the point that I had played the only like,
there was one thing
that actually made me pretty uncomfortable
and it was directed at a dude, not a girl.
Yeah, so.
And it was like a pretty messed up scene actually.
I mean. But it was at a dude.
You know, promoting violence against sex workers.
I mean, this is not something that I'm advocating for
and personally, not a huge fan of the whole GTA thing
for me personally.
But I don't think that pulling it out of a couple stores
in Australia is really gonna stop the juggernaut
that is Grand Theft Auto.
And I also don't subscribe to the theory
that violent video games make people violent.
I think crazy people are crazy people
and those crazy people might tend to, you know,
act out their fantasies in video games,
but those people were gonna be crazy.
Now, I'm going a route that I completely disagree with here.
So keep that in mind.
But with the whole like,
oh, there's tons of studies that say this
and there's one that say this,
but there has, I believe there's been a recent study
saying that violence in video games
may reduce violence in real life
because they're able to.
Yeah, I remember reading that one a little while back,
but I don't know if I necessarily buy that either.
Yeah, no, that's why I put that disclaimer on.
You could probably run the same study,
does playing an instrument reduce violence in real life?
Like people who have hobbies, I think in general,
are less likely to.
Yeah, that's actually probably
a much better way to go about it.
People who have a life are gonna be less likely
to wanna ruin their own.
Yeah, yeah.
So this is interesting.
Now, there's been a severe shortage.
Oh, sorry, I haven't posted the link yet,
but there has been a serious shortage
of good mechanical wireless keyboards up till now
and it looks like Philco is seeking to address this.
So this is an article from over on Tech Report
and there it is.
Philco's new Cherry MX keyboard has Bluetooth connectivity.
Loving it.
Kinda like that it has Bluetooth connectivity
because it could be kind of fun
because I believe you change which Bluetooth connection
it's trying to connect to
through a function key on the keyboard.
So- Which Bluetooth connection?
Yeah, I think it has up to four.
Oh, I did not know that.
Okay, the keyboard features both Bluetooth
and a detachable USB cord
with what looks like a mini USB connector
and when unplugged, it runs off two AA batteries
that provide about six months of usage
at about five hours per day.
Yeah. Not half bad.
I was trying to find this.
I was having, while I was benchmarking today,
I tried to get Nick to go in there
and just like read topics off to me
and I know he said there was,
I think he said there was more than one.
One of four Bluetooth sources
with function and number key shortcuts.
That's really cool.
So if you could just be like on your computer
and be like, oh, I have to send this big thing on my phone
but like I don't want to set up AirDroid or whatever.
That is the smartest thing ever.
You just have your phone on a little stand.
Yeah, just function key off, type whatever you need to do,
function key back on.
It's like, it's like Apple's continuity
except not Apple's continuity at all
because you're still using it on your phone
but you just pair it over and Bluetooth pairing
is so fast these days.
That is freaking awesome.
Now, one obstacle for this keyboard
is this really is a niche product
because Bluetooth is something that's really not included
with most desktop computers
and full-size 104 key Magistouch mechanical keyboards
are not the kind of thing most people use on their laptops
but if you had an office, say for example,
that you took a laptop to every day
and you just had this wireless keyboard
and then you had a little stand for your phone next to it,
being able to switch between them
and then just close everything up
and book it at the end of the day, that's freaking awesome.
I love this product.
And jumping over to your recent HandyTek episode
which people should watch because it's awesome.
If you get one of those like internal USB header
to USB plug adapter things
and then just plug a Bluetooth dongle onto there,
there, you're good.
Problem solved.
All right, so this is actually pretty cool.
Finland to ditch cursive handwriting
for typing and texting skills.
So let's go ahead and copy the link here.
Boopity, boop, boop, boop.
All right, let's fire this up.
Honestly, makes a ton of sense.
Every time I hear about some completely legacy nonsense
being ditched for some actually useful skill.
So cursive writing, I don't imagine
either of my kids will read or write in cursive
unless they get into calligraphy as a hobby.
I don't even know how well I could do it anymore.
I think you would discover, you pick it up again
extremely fast. Like I just thought in my head
how I would write like, and like it took me a second.
Yeah, I got it.
But like if I just had to sit there
and write a whole paragraph out, it would take me a while.
Okay, well whatever.
We're not sharing Tweaktown's writing work.
It defeats the entire purpose.
I think this is cool.
I wish it was happening sooner.
I'm sure that's probably because they have to write out
like the curriculum and how they're gonna run
these classes and stuff.
Yeah, cursive's already gone in Canada, so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yay, Canada was ahead of Finland on something.
Are we replacing it with typing and texting skills
or did we just ditch the class?
Not texting, typing.
Yeah, we've had typing forever though
and I'm sure they have typing as well.
Yeah.
Anyways, so it's not happening until autumn 2016.
So it's still not happening for a while
but plans are in motion which is cool.
This is from The Verge, Obama to provide funding
for police body cameras.
So this is all in the wake of the recent conclusion
of the whole Michael Brown thing
where the police officer was let off
and whether that was the correct decision
or not the correct decision is not something
that we're gonna broach on this show.
But the point is Obama has pushed through,
I think it was 300 million or so in funding.
236.
263 million in funding for body cameras
on law enforcement officers.
So that'll be about 50,000 body cameras
and then the rest of it is of evidently storage,
training and outreach programs meant to renew
the level of trust between cops
and the communities that they serve.
I think this is cool regardless of what side you stand on
because I think it could help potentially protect officers
and I think it could help potentially protect the people.
I mean it's the same reason that people use dash cams.
The dash cam is not always necessarily
to cover your own butt.
If it's in the hands of a law enforcement officer
it could potentially be used to cover the butt
of someone else from the law enforcement officer.
And so I mean I have.
Having more raw data of what happened at the scene,
how is that a bad thing?
Because like even if something happens in the background,
maybe you see someone run off to the corner
that the police officer didn't see
because he was talking to someone.
If you could see that officer cam,
then cool, sweet, who knows.
I don't think it's a bad idea.
I think that's pretty much it for anything
that I thought was particularly interesting
in the doc this week.
Should Shireuken the stream and have an after party?
Shireuken, really.
Shireuken, how do you say it again?
Well without doing like the voice,
it's kind of hard to do.
Shireuken!
Yeah, it's more like Shoryuken
and it's probably our,
it's probably, yeah, we're gonna be corrupted on it.
I don't really play fighting games.
Whoever's gonna correct us, just screw it off.
Sure, good work.
Okay, actually we have build logs of the week
so I'm just gonna go ahead and.
Yeah, thank you for not forgetting that.
Do we have that dude's thing?
Which one?
The key thing.
The what?
Name key thing.
I don't know what you're talking about.
All right, so we've got Vault Boy.
Can you remind me how Prezi works?
Prezi?
Yeah.
It's loading.
Yeah, which means what?
Wait for it to load.
Wait for it to completely glitch out my screen?
Well you full screened it
and there's nothing loaded so it's white.
Full screen your face.
There, see?
All right, allow full screen with keyboard controls.
Sure.
All right, Linus's screen.
I said allow.
Linus's screen.
Arc by.
I like the like, what is that?
Depth of field on, or is that sun spots?
Or like what's, I don't know what's going on there.
All right, the system specs.
Modded BitFenix Prodigy, Asus P8Z, 77i Deluxe,
with a 3570K and an R9 290.
R9 290, you're gonna have to have lots of water cooling
to put that in a little tiny case.
Oh wait, you do.
Literally lots of water cooling.
Very nice work in progress shots.
Loving those BitFenix Prodigy mods.
Love that paint job too, that's awesome.
All right, wow, this thing is outstanding.
Painting the rads, painting the inside of the case,
got your matching memory,
and that yellow and blue color scheme on the cabling.
Looking real good.
And there is the finished build.
So there's carbon fiber wrap on the back of the VRM modules
as well as on the motherboard tray.
And looks like possibly even on the inside here,
we got those, those are so throwback.
I love this.
Those biohazard fan grills.
I remember shopping on like adsmods.com
for that kind of crap, like way back in the day.
Those used to be so common at lands and stuff.
Love it, so classic.
That beautiful yellow coolant that you can see
through the plexi window on the water block.
What a fantastic build.
And the figurine for good measure.
Yeah, yeah, that's actually awesome.
And I love Fallout, so that's really cool.
Never got into Fallout myself.
Have you, well, were you ever into like Morrowind or Skyrim
or any of that kind of stuff?
I played a lot of Oblivion, but not Morrowind or Skyrim.
Yeah.
Allow full screen, yes, all right.
So this one's called my ASUS ROG build.
Super creative.
Core i7-4770K, ROG Raider Express PCIe SSD,
Maximus 7.6 formula, and EVJ GTX 770,
four gig dual classified ACX with 770 classified,
okay, whatever, let's click on the link.
Holy crap, that was really fast.
What did I do?
I was faster today in the outro for fastest possible.
It was actually pretty awesome.
Starting out, oh wow, DAT brand repping for ASUS ROG.
JJ is gonna, wow, just wow, look at this huge ASUS logo.
Love this shroud down here in the bottom.
And then you've got the OC, like the one person
in the world to be using ASUS's OC front panel thing.
Is that like a textured bump for the logo on there?
Did he like 3D print that or something?
It does look like it's textured, yeah.
It looks like it's raised, absolutely love it.
Got that hard pipe tubing in there.
Look at this desk.
Oh my goodness.
That is fantastic.
Oh, that is, that is fantastic.
Yeah, JJ, JJ would be impressed.
JJ's super happy right now.
Yeah, JJ's watching, JJ, we know you're impressed.
All right, we got our last build log of the week.
If the presentation has finished loading,
yes, I want to allow, can you remember this please?
All right, so this one, Project White Camel,
also known as see-through yoga pants, Lululemon edition.
We've got the Core i7 5820K, two Samsung 850 Pros,
256 in RAID 0, we've got a couple of GTX 980s and SLI.
So one BA rig, it's got some painting of the RAM.
Ooh, are we changing the color of the GeForce logos?
All right, got some white sleeving going on here.
Is that an AIO liquid cooler?
All right, we're gonna have to see how.
It might not stay there.
We'll see how it redeems itself, all right.
And everything is white.
I do like. That is pretty sick.
I do like that color change on the GTX logos.
Like that white RAM.
That X99 Deluxe looks fantastic in this build.
Everything goes together incredibly well.
Sweet, I would have liked to see him at least have the,
my OCD on the text on the AIO cooler not being right.
You know. It kills me.
The thing about that is it's usually the manufacturer's
fault for not having the.
The right notch.
The notches.
Well, not having the length and the tubing makes sense
to be able to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so you have to choose, clean tubing run
or correctly oriented.
And both will drive people crazy.
Both of them will drive people crazy.
Yeah.
All right, so guys, thank you so much for tuning
into the WAN Show.
We will see you all.
Oh, wait, pause.
Are you logged in on the forum?
I don't know, why?
Go and log out and then there's one more thing
that we have to do.
What's up?
Do I know about this?
Yes.
Or is this a?
Oh, yes, okay, all right, all right.
It's been like forevers.
Okay, we've been meaning to feature this forever.
This is from Smogsy and it is the ultimate man cave.
And I'm talking like pretty ultimate.
Actually, I saw, okay, I saw kind of a neat
attic-based build blog one a little while ago.
But this is very ultimate.
So this is it, pretty much complete.
I love how he got the fire stream on his TV.
I know, right?
Isn't that awesome?
All right, so full specs for this thing are ridiculous.
So Panasonic 50 inch TV, couple of two terabytes
Sky HD boxes, one has backup evidently.
Cambridge amp, PS3 ultra slim.
Okay, we'll forgive you for that one.
HDMI link to the PC.
He probably uses it for Blu-rays.
Yeah, he probably uses it for the seven Blu-rays that exist.
This is great.
In case get kicked out or it's raining.
So he converted his garage for this, if I recall correctly.
So it has a double bed with memory foam,
a fridge that holds 108 wine bottles,
curtains for privacy and a toilet in the room over here.
So he actually never has to go back into the house at all.
Main PC area, 3770K at 4.8 gigahertz, 7990.
So complete overkill PC with triple monitors and...
Super nice keyboard.
Yeah, super nice keyboard, lots of networking.
The charging area.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.
So guys, just because it's build blogs of the week
doesn't mean it has to just be a PC.
If you want to show off your man caves,
then we're totally into that.
As long as you don't take man cave to meet
some kind of euphemism for some kind of weird
goatee thing or something.
Worst thing I've ever said on this show.
All right, moving on.
Same bad time, same bad channel next week.
We'll see you guys there.
Oh, it's kind of a man cave.
Oh.
You know, it's funny, I made a goat seed joke,
like a goat seed reference on, you saw it?
Almost no one got it.
The internet has moved on, yeah.
There were so few comments about the greatest of all time,
second edition or whatever I said in the...
It was in an NCIX Tech Tips, like the fractal define R5.
Yeah, that's why I saw it,
because I wanted to see the define R5 stuff.
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was,
I thought it was so obvious.
Yeah, I know, I know.