He didn't know what Twitch is.
He's like, is this a sort of dark website?
I'm just like, no.
I explained to him the concept of Twitch and how.
I explained to him the context of Twitch,
and I told him about, hey, some people
were making six figures just playing video games,
and other people were watching.
And he wasn't depressed by this.
By the way, we're live.
No.
Oh, awesome.
Yeah, John was explaining live streaming on the internet
to his dad, who's apparently watching.
Hi, dad.
So hi, John's dad.
That's, you know, it's funny, I forget
because I spend so very much time in front of the camera
that like being on a show is like maybe a thing.
Yeah, it's like a big deal to some folks still.
So yeah, there we go.
Yes, I'm taller than you.
I was way down here.
Who's assistant is usually Luke, so yeah, OK.
So welcome to the LAN Show, you guys.
We've got a great show for you guys today.
Luke is down at IEM, so he's working
on some pretty cool content from the Intel Extreme Masters.
And so I have brought in my Luke substitute
for the day, John, who's going to point at you.
And it won't be awkward at all, I promise.
In other news, we've got a bunch of great topics for you
guys today.
President Trump has determined that exploring Mars
is not grand enough.
No, he's going to have the best NASA.
The best.
The greatest NASA.
OK.
The greatest NASA, the best, just the best.
So they're going to explore even further than Mars.
Probably he'll find a way to do that within the four years
that his term will last.
No question, no question.
No question.
They'll launch tomorrow, the best launch.
Anyway.
Be the greatest launch you've ever seen.
The greatest launch with the greatest lunch
you've ever eaten.
Launch and lunch.
Two Trump steaks, man.
At the same time.
Trump steaks.
Can't beat them.
They're the greatest.
OK, so the new MacBook Pro, speaking of the greatest,
the reviews are coming in, and it doesn't look good.
More MacBook Pro news.
The new MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop
in just five days.
So I guess that's pretty good if you're Apple.
It's not surprising.
I'd love to say nothing surprises me anymore.
It's official.
Nothing can surprise me anymore.
You can make six figures game streaming,
and we have a reality TV star as our president.
Nothing surprising.
That's right, your president.
The hour was not our.
It was him hour.
For now.
Have I talked to you about that?
No, seriously, did I tell you?
I don't recall.
I think one of Trump's moves could be to invade Canada.
Because realistically, who would stop him?
I think it's politically extremely unpopular.
We don't want Canada.
Politically unpopular, yes.
But would anything stop Trump's America
from simply marching north and declaring Canada to be theirs?
He loves the Canadians, though.
I don't think he does.
No, I think he's happy that all of the celebrities who don't
like him are moving to Canada.
If anything, I think they're all reneging on that, aren't they?
Of course they are.
Yeah.
It happens every time.
You can't just walk in.
I don't understand how people like, oh, move in.
I had to stack a paperwork that was like, it was huge.
Did they even look at it, though?
What?
Did they look at it?
So I handed it to the guy.
And he kind of flips through it really disinterested.
He's like, all right, I'll be back in a minute.
And then he gave me a fancier piece of paper.
And he said, OK, bye.
And here I am.
But you can't just walk in.
You can't.
OK.
Our other major news story this week,
more gamers are gaming on AMD graphics
than Intel and Nvidia combined, says a study from gfxspeak.com,
which I'd never heard of until this study made headlines.
Is it a sensationalist headline?
Yes.
But we'll explain what they're talking about at 11.
Do we have the confusing flow chart to show everyone?
Yes, we do.
OK.
Yes, we can.
Lovely.
The best flow chart.
Yes, we can.
You're dating yourself a little bit there, my friend.
You sure do.
And no one else is going to date me.
Isn't that kind of a weird thing to say?
Well, no, you're supposed to date me.
Like, you're supposed to have date night.
You're supposed to date your spouse.
Yeah, but, like, it's not dating you.
Well, that's why they dated for a word, I think.
Because everyone knows it's all a big lie.
I am also married, and I have no comment.
So.
Yeah, you know what?
I love you, honey.
What?
The married people are actually slowly taking over here.
So.
So there's you, there's me.
Yeah, there's Colton.
Colton.
So that's three of us now.
I mean, we're still woefully outnumbered.
But I think it's a matter of time for Brandon.
I think it's, I think someone's going to lock up that Nick
Light character.
Just a hunch.
Yeah.
Just a hunch.
Someone's going to, I mean, all that?
Who doesn't want all that?
Again, no comment.
Well, I mean, my wife has said to me multiple times,
this is exactly the same as when we were dating,
except there's just like legal crap now.
It's like, it's the same thing, so.
But then when you guys were dating, you were in law school.
No, I wasn't.
This is like way after I graduated.
Oh, OK, OK, OK.
Yeah.
But you were trying to find a job as a lawyer.
Yes.
So there was legal crap.
It's a very different kind of legal crap.
There's always legal crap in life.
I'm just trying to find a technical way
to tie the two together.
I'll give you a 6 out of 10.
Thank you.
It's about as well as I ever do with my wife, so.
Oh, oh.
All right.
Let's do, OK, no, I promise this will not
be the Bittered Married Men show today.
It's like, this is what happens when I bring you in instead
of Luke.
Oh, oh, man.
Let's move on to our first topic of the day.
This was posted by HeyYo on the forum.
The original article here is from 9to5Mac.
Actually, no, let's not do this one first.
Let's do the second one first, also from 9to5Mac.
This one posted by DJDWSK97.
Thank you for the username.
That is impossible for me to actually say as a word.
So here we go.
Touch Bar, let's check the dates on these.
Three days ago, Touch Bar MacBook Pro models
have non-upgradable SSDs, seemingly undersized batteries.
And so the reviews are supposedly not looking good.
Let's have a look.
SSDs and RAM are both soldered to the logic board.
The battery cells look comically small,
some speculating that Apple limited their size
to hit a weight target, with others saying
that this could be an intentional choice
to give the batteries room to expand or limit
heat buildup inside the otherwise tightly packed
casing, perhaps avoiding a Note 7-style issue.
Although I doubt that very much.
That seems to be a tongue-in-cheek, tongue-firmly
planted-in-cheek comment.
There is a tongue of Modicon literally right next to it.
Yeah, so that's how I figured out that it was tongue-in-cheek.
Excellent deductive reasoning.
Very smart.
That is why I am a YouTube sensation.
Actually, I don't think anyone anywhere on Earth
considers me a sensation.
I consider you a sensation, Linus.
Thank you.
Is Canada on Earth?
Does Trump's Earth include Canada?
I'm not a citizen.
You tell me.
OK, reviewers are stating they're seeing nowhere near
Apple's claimed 10-hour battery life.
The Verge reported five to six hours,
while Business Insider got a more promising eight hours
under ideal conditions, six hours under normal use.
Which is a shame, because Apple historically
has advertised battery times that have been fairly
aligned with real-world usage, even
going after other companies for exaggerating their claims.
Quite frankly, I have no idea what anyone's battery life
ratings are based on.
Yeah, I have the thing in front of me.
And the Verge guy says he kept open Slack, Safari, Mail,
Tweetbot, and TextEdit, watching the occasional YouTube video
and opening various Apple apps here and there for testing.
Why, thank you.
So I mean, yeah, that's a reasonable workload,
but Lord knows how they tested it in Cupertino
or how anyone else uses it.
So this news comes after Apple's claims
that the lack of a 32-gig option was
due to a focus on power savings.
General performance, trackpad, keyboard, and touch bar
are all considered positives, depending on who you ask.
I know there are a lot of developers that are upset
about the removal of the top row as a not.
OK, and I got to be really clear about my wording here.
Got to be really careful.
So a lot of people are saying there's no physical escape key,
while technically a touch pad with a spot on it is physical.
But it's not like a button you can physically push down on,
and then something happens as a result of a keyboard actuator
thing.
So a lot of developers are upset about the lack
of a physical, which to be clear is still physical.
It does exist in the physical plane of existence.
It's not telepathy.
It's not spiritual.
Yeah.
But the lack of a physical escape key.
And Louis Rossman in particular is the only person
I've really seen this complaint from,
but is super upset about the louder keyboard.
I haven't personally tried it yet.
My MacBook Pro is going to arrive in like Monday.
Should arrive Monday or Tuesday.
I like how you need to look at your watch for that,
because I was thinking you were going to say like, two hours.
Monday.
I didn't know what day of the week it was.
Why didn't you?
Friday, why didn't you?
Come on.
I know.
I know that.
Like, cognitively I know that, but emotionally I
don't know that.
Spiritually I don't know that.
Physically I might know it.
Yeah.
Well, this has been a very taxing time for like my chi
and whatnot, too.
But emotionally there's no escape.
Eat Arby's, dude.
Escape?
Because of the?
Oh, oh, oh, OK.
7 out of 10.
Luke would have caught that.
4 out of 10 co-hosts.
Well, you know what?
I'm sorry I'm not Luke.
I try to grow a beard out.
It's itchy.
It comes in patchy.
You know, I tried.
You know?
Sorry.
You know, there's more to the Luke package than just the beard.
Yeah, it's like 90% that, though.
All right.
So I think this segues pretty perfectly
into a short discussion on our video about the MacBook Pro's
lack of a 32 gig option, our much maligned video
about the lack of a 32 gig option.
Now, OK.
John actually wrote the video.
It was hosted by Luke, but I also proofread it.
So to be very clear, I'm not going
to try and pin the blame on anyone.
We all collectively didn't consider or missed
that the reason so that the electrical traces connected
from one thing to another thing reason that the MacBook Pro
2016 only comes in 16 gig options or less
is that the Skylake CPU in it only supports 16 gigs of LPDDR3
on a single channel.
We all kind of collectively derped on that.
So we're sorry, our bad.
However, that doesn't really change
any of the overall message, especially
in light of the reviews for the MacBook Pro coming in
complaining about the battery life.
So John, do you want to kind of give us the top level
summary of what we were trying to achieve by investigating
the power consumption of RAM?
Mostly that RAM modules are not only small in size
and not terribly difficult to fit in a mobile device
like a laptop, but they're also typically
one of the lower power consumption
components of any system, whether desktop or laptop.
If you watch the video, obviously we
tested a bunch of different RAM configurations in the Predator.
We were using DDR4 SO DIMMs, which are actually
the same voltage as the LPDDR3 that they were using
in the MacBook Pro was 1.2 volts.
So it would take an engineer at Intel or Samsung or Apple
or something to tell us the exact milliwatt difference
or whatever it ends up being.
They're not exactly the same, but they
do run at the same voltage.
So you'd expect them to be similar-ish.
So when we ran, we did everything from one stick of 8
to two sticks of 16 in the Predator.
There's only two SO DIMM slots in the Predator.
But we did this, and the differences
while they were there, they were very, very marginal
when you looked at the actual battery capacity.
The difference between the most draining and the least draining
RAM config, it was about 100 milliwatt hours,
about 4% of the battery, no matter which way you slice it.
In that vein, the point we were trying to make
was more, I'm not sure that power consumption is
the best explanation for this.
Even had they gone with DDR4, even if the power would
have been more of a concern, it seems to me,
anyway, that the bigger concern would have possibly
been space, because obviously, if you put in the SO DIMM,
you have the slot there.
There's some additional bulk as opposed to some of this.
Or even if you were to solder on 32 gigs of DDR4,
that would still take up more PCB space.
And it is an extremely small PCB.
So like Linus said, it was sort of a team effort,
derp, if you will, on that.
But at the same time, I still am kind
of raising my eyebrow a little bit, as Luke said in the video,
about why exactly that design decision was made.
And to be clear, we are also aware
that implementing dual-channel memory
versus single-channel memory may have also
affected power consumption.
Absolutely.
But then back to John's point, where the greatest delta
we were able to observe, testing different RAM
amounts in different systems, was 4% of a predator battery.
A predator battery.
Which is how many?
Because you could probably do the math, because the
Well, 4% is 4%, so it'd be 4% of any battery.
4% of overall power consumption.
I guess it could be more.
No, no, no, no.
Because we measured it in milliwatt hours,
which is like a unit of energy.
So I think, yeah.
So it's not that, but it's more that the difference
between the lowest and highest was so little,
and it was so insignificant that, yeah.
So in response then, let's say 5% to cover our bases.
Let's say if they had allowed a dual-channel 32-gig option,
that might have consumed 5% more power.
And let's say that that would have added this much PCB space,
or whatever the case may be.
Let's say that was the answer.
It doesn't change the conclusion of our video.
The conclusion of our video, where we say, ultimately, it
came down to some kind of manipulation of people's upgrade
cycles, or some kind of space-saving measure.
Ultimately, that is still the answer.
Did we overlook an important point in arriving
at our conclusion?
Yes, and for that, again, we are very sorry.
But that really doesn't change that the reason this happened
is not due to power consumption.
It is part of an equation that has multiple variables.
There's a power consumption equation.
There is a performance equation.
There is a space equation.
And there is a heat equation.
There's actually many, many, many, many, many variables.
So for Apple to come out and say it was due to power
consumption, it was to keep power consumption acceptable,
is still a ridiculous statement.
Because that is not the entire truth.
It is a fraction.
It is the x in an equation that also has y, z, a, b, and c
variables.
It might not be as good.
But also, if they put in DDR4 and gave you a 32 gig option,
it's not like battery life would just plummet.
So yeah, it's a little bit.
And you also have to wonder, is it the same thing
with the SSDs?
Because part of the reason is getting a little bit
hammered on in the reviews.
Oh, the SSDs are soldered on.
Everything's soldered on.
And you think about how big an M.2 2280 SSD,
how small these are.
Well, Apple managed to fit them in their laptops before.
There you go.
Yeah, so you also have to think about that, too.
You arrive at the same conclusion.
Is it space management?
Is it trying to affect people's upgrade cycles?
I guess that's the nicest way you can say it.
But I guess it's just a little bit unclear at this point.
So basically, there you go.
Right conclusion, wrong methodology, Linus Media Group.
OK.
Linus Media Group, we try.
Yeah, we try.
We try, darn it.
Please, please look at us as the lovable tryhards
and not the completely inept, terrible people.
Lovable tryhards.
I hope you're not comparing us to the Cleveland Browns, Linus.
We do win sometimes with things that we try to do.
Yeah, we do win sometimes.
Apologies to any of our fans from Cleveland.
But yeah, kind of been a rough time for them.
Anyway.
OK, moving on to our next topic.
So this is also from 9to5Mac.
And this was posted by HeyYo.
The new MacBook Pro outsold every competing laptop
in its first five days of being on sale.
So now to be clear, the way that they arrive at this data
is actually not based on numbers that
are being released by Microsoft, Dell, Asus, Lenovo, and Apple.
Because Apple, to my knowledge, hasn't
shared any sales numbers of the new MacBook Pro yet.
So this is based on blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Component orders.
Component orders and slice intelligences something
or other, something, something, something.
I can't remember.
I'm going to go back to my notes,
because that's where I have the information that I'm
trying to tell you.
No, no.
I read the article, so I knew that that thing.
OK, yeah, yeah, here we go.
So the data comes from analyzing email receipts
among its panel of 4.4 million online shoppers.
So this is not by any means comprehensive,
but it also isn't a completely insignificant sample size.
With that said, depending on how you obtain your sample
audience, like, oh, I don't know, say, for example,
you get people to join your panel on exclusively Apple
websites, for example, well, obviously, that's
going to affect the sales of Macs proportional to PCs
in your testing, in your data.
So we don't really know much about that.
But what we do know is that in five days,
it achieved a sales number that is slightly less than here.
Let me just pull up this graphic here.
It's cut off on the bar next to it, which is awesome.
So it is almost double the Dell XPS 13, the newest MacBook.
It is almost quadruple.
The Microsoft something, what is that?
It's cut off on my tube.
Why is this cut off?
That is just horrible CSS, I guess.
Here we go.
Oh, there we go.
So let's go over to intelligence.slice.com.
Here we go.
So the newest MacBook Pro is almost caught up
to the 12-inch MacBook, which was a complete,
I guess even by Apple standards is now officially a turd,
because it's been on sale since April of 2015.
It has crushed the Surface Book by almost 4x.
It has crushed the Asus Chromebook Flip,
which I'm really actually not sure what that has
to do with the MacBook Pro.
It's a completely separate market segment.
Sure, yeah.
40% Apple laptop buyers from 2014 purchased their next laptop
from another brand, which is pretty interesting, I guess.
MacBook Pro shoppers mirror Apple Watch early adopters.
20% female, 80% male.
It's all very interesting data.
I mean, again, we don't really know much
about where they get their data set from exactly.
Their sample size is not comprehensive or anything
like that.
But there you have it.
I guess a lot of people fancy themselves pros
and bought a MacBook Pro so they can show off how pro they are.
Very pro.
When they pull it out in class.
Nothing screams pro like the touch bar.
Hey, nothing screams like when I pull it out in class.
I think we've all been there.
You know what?
I want to hear from you guys.
Straw pull?
Yeah, we got to straw pull this.
OK, so hey, on the MacBook Pro 2016.
OK, deserved.
And I'm actually going to get you guys
to rate it on a scale of one to five.
So five is the most deserving.
And one is going to be the least deserving.
You've got two threes, bro.
Well, you know what?
Not all of us are perfect.
Not all of us are trained proofreaders.
Aren't you guys perfect?
Aren't you also like our editor in chief?
I wasn't trained to do that.
You went to school to proofread things.
No, I didn't.
That's what lawyers do.
That's like a tiny part of what lawyers do.
We don't have proofreading class in law school.
We don't do that.
Well, it's important to proofread.
And I'm sure they cover the importance of it
in law school.
I just figured you would be able to type the numbers one
through five in succession without much difficulty.
Perhaps I was wrong.
Perhaps you were.
Perhaps you were.
Lyons is going to be the first one to fire me
after the show is over with, by the way.
No, I don't have to fire you.
I can deport you.
I don't think I can, actually.
No, you have to get Trudeau to do that for you.
And he would probably try to talk to me about my feelings
before that happens, so joke's on you.
OK, hold on a second.
Is this really going to become a head of state showdown?
Because I will put Trudeau up against Trump
any day of the week.
Even in a fist fight.
Your head of state is Queen Elizabeth, not Justin Trudeau.
That's fair.
And I really would not want to see.
But does she know it anymore?
I mean, what is she, like 110?
Either way, I wouldn't want to see her mag get
into a fist fight.
I don't think that would turn out very well.
She's kind of a bad ass lady.
Because she's sick of the Corgis on somebody.
She could do that, the Royal Corgis.
I had no idea.
She served in World War II.
Oh, she was like, what did she do?
I think I remember hearing about this.
I think she was a driver for something, something.
But it wasn't a purely ceremonial role.
She actually did things.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
That's actually kind of awesome.
Apparently, her dad was furious.
But it was just like, yeah, she's
actually way cooler than I thought.
Yeah, well, I mean, hey, let's see
you be still awesome when you're like a billion years old.
So you know what's really interesting about the results
for our straw poll?
Apparently, I'm psychic.
Because the least important option
was the one I glossed over.
We didn't have a two, and no one cares.
Only 6% of the people would have even voted for your two.
Maybe the Twitch viewers were just trying to spite me.
It would not have affected the results of the election,
unlike Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.
OK, yeah, there's an argument that could be made for that.
All right, so there you go.
Apparently, most of you are pretty much
on board with Apple's latest Mac Pro,
pretty much deserving the hate that it's getting right now.
With that said, you know what?
OK, we're going to move on to our next topic.
But I want you guys to answer this next straw
poll in the meantime.
Who knows someone who bought one?
And OK, I'm not talking like you watch a Twitch streamer who
bought one.
You personally know someone.
Yeah, you have to personally know them.
You have to have spoken to them in the last six months
or emailed them in the last month
or IMed them in the last two weeks or something like that.
I know someone who was very close,
but they ultimately ended up going
with the regular MacBook, not the Pro model,
with the Core M whatever.
Which I guess is cheaper, so it has that going for it.
Yeah, it's just one of those things
where I think if you don't need every bell and whistle
and you don't need hyper-threading.
Or a port or a computer that doesn't throttle
to literally 50% of its performance
as soon as you do anything intensive.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I was just thinking
about getting the brakes removed from my car
and just selling them because who needs those?
I could just Fred Flintstone to stop it, whatever.
All right, let's move on to our next highly controversial topic
of the day.
This was posted by Lil Trekkie on the forum.
And the original article here is from gfxspeak.com.
And the headline here is, The Balance of Power in Gaming.
Do you think I read that OK?
It sounded like Schwarzenegger, but with a mouthful
of mashed potato.
Doesn't he always sound like he has a mouthful of mashed potato?
I think you read it fine, Linus.
Thank you.
OK, so if you're confused by the end of me scrolling down
this page, let me tell you that I am firmly in the same camp
as you are.
It's pretty bad.
So gamers fall into several camps, device size,
main processor type, OS screen size, budget, time spent.
The gaming community is so large that no single demographic
can define it.
Moving on, Lordy.
OK, so OK, we've got your PC.
Then we've got your desktop notebook.
And there's a new category that maybe they'll
add just to make things a little bit more confusing.
I have that handheld PC that we're
releasing a YouTube video on very soon,
Windows 10 handheld device.
OK, so then you've got your discrete.
You've got your onboard.
You've got your discrete.
You've got your onboard.
Don't forget to add external, like if we just
want to make this chart phenomenally confusing.
Yeah, like a Razer Core or something.
Yeah, Razer Core, Razer Core, don't forget about that.
Then in discrete, you've got your mainstream performance
enthusiast workstation.
OK, you've got your discrete notebook, mainstream rich media
workstation.
I like how the differences between these
are just so obvious from this chart.
Enthusiast is missing.
Last time I checked, there are GTX 1080s in notebooks.
But I guess we're not going to stress about that too much.
Is that enthusiast or is that like, you know,
or is Titan X enthusiast?
OK, and then everything ultimately
makes its way to a display.
Gotcha.
We would hope.
The tiers for gamer time commitment
are light, moderate, intensive, and extreme, OK?
And that, oh, hold on a second.
And then there's this thing.
So there's a semiconductor fab, which
goes to the discrete GPU supplier, which
go to contract manufacturers.
So this is AMD or Nvidia.
I'm going to do my best to make my way through this.
So this goes to your TULs and your Asuses and gigabytes
of the world, who actually take those chips
and buy memory and PCBs and bolt them all together.
So they sell them to AIB partners, mostly.
So that would be guys like your EVGAs of the world.
Yeah, Zotac.
No, Zotac's a manufacturer.
Oh, that's right.
They are now, but Gigabyte.
No, Gigabyte is a manufacturer.
In fact, I'm actually really nervous.
I'm just going off the rails today, I guess.
There's been a lot of consolidation
in the actual assembly and brand space.
So it used to be that there were a handful of manufacturers,
your Foxcons and your whoever else.
And then it was a lot of guys rebranding,
like the BFG techs of the world.
But nowadays, a lot of them are more vertically integrated.
Or they're just kind of a brand name that
has a manufacturer above them.
So that would be things like Galax, for example.
Galax owns manufacturing, even though the Galax brand itself
is just a fabricated brand targeting North America
for that much larger company.
So some of them go to OEMs.
So that would be your Dells of the world.
Some of them go to special systems.
So there's your boutique builders.
From AIB, some goes to distribution.
Some goes to, is direct sales supposed to be retail and etail?
Well, I guess if you're buying off of evga.com instead
of newegg.com, that would be direct sales.
I think they mean retail.
I think that's what they actually,
or maybe distribution channel is meant to be retail.
Well, yeah, because newegg is basically retail, right?
So if you're buying it off of there instead of from evga.com
side, that would be distribution.
OK, so they're saying 10% direct sales.
OK, so 82%, so let's call that direct to retailer sales
and distributors like D&H and Ingram Micro
and all that kind of stuff.
OK, some of the OEMs go to embedded and special systems
suppliers.
So hold on, from special systems to direct sales.
So is this supposed to be the consumer maybe?
OK, I'm not actually, no, because consumers are here.
Yeah, the red is all going to consumers after,
like once you get to AIB.
And then distribution channels, some goes to enterprise,
but we don't have percentages for that.
Some goes to government.
Presumably they need graphics cards too.
Does not include workstation.
OK, OK, so the conclusion here is approximately 73.8%
of all graphics AIBs end up in gaming PCs,
which is a very interesting conclusion,
but I'm not 100% sure that I can agree with that necessarily.
Just because one thing that is not
tracked that closely by Enthusiast Press
is the sales of things like GT240s.
I had no idea, like back when I was working at NCIX
and I was the product manager for Zotac,
we weren't selling a lot of Zotac.
But it turned out that we were by far the biggest
seller of the high-end stuff.
And at NCIX, I was also managing MSI and EVGA at the time.
So I'm seeing these huge numbers on things like GTX 680s
or whatever it would have been at the time that I was still
working there.
Huge, huge numbers on $500, $600 graphics cards.
And I'm sitting here going, yeah,
very small revenue number.
So it turns out, talking to people who know people
who know people, I'm not going to name any names.
I don't want to throw anyone under the bus.
But the kind of numbers that a brand like Zotac,
where they're basically Best Buy exclusive,
the kind of numbers they're doing on stupid cards
like GT730s and 610s, huge, huge.
It blew my mind.
I'm like, maybe I just haven't spent enough time
standing in Best Buy by the video card counter,
watching for people to come up and try and buy that crap
so that I can tell them to turn around, walk away.
And to be clear, this is something a lot of people
got really confused about in the video
that I made a couple of years ago called Low End.
This video card is garbage.
No one buy it or something like that.
I understand that some people just need a basic graphics card
because their onboard video died or whatever,
or they want to hook up two monitors.
I get it.
The problem is that a lot of these cards are like $70, $80, $90.
When if all you need is an output,
you can get those for like 30 bucks.
That's my point.
The point is they are priced very close to cards
that are legitimately good to accelerate games or video
editing or any GPU accelerated workload.
They're close, but the performance
is closer to the $30 one.
That's the problem.
Anyway, huge numbers of these people buy.
I had no idea.
I was completely ignorant of that.
But let's say for a second that their numbers are right.
Let's go back to the confusing article.
Based on Steam user data, we conclude
that 16.5% of desktop machines used for gaming
are using Intel integrated graphics.
Southeast Asia is apparently what they're going based on,
and represents about 6.5% of global Steam users.
Steam data does not differentiate desktop
from notebook graphics.
It's the same percentage to Intel for notebooks.
Based on the AMD to Intel integrated notebook ratio,
our quarterly data collection of mobile integrated,
OK, for the past seven years, the three major vendors
install base for GPUs for PC gaming
declined slowly following the PC's decline.
Console dated something, something.
OK, so eventually we end up with GPU gaming hardware market
30 billion PC's something consoles.
OK, so basically the conclusion is,
and it was kind of a clicky sort of thought experiment.
But the conclusion is that when x86-based gaming is examined,
AMD is the clear winner.
And I was kind of looking at that going, OK,
I'll see where you're going with this.
With x86-based machines falling into three platforms,
consoles, notebooks, and desktops.
When tracking equipment, they considered the install base
of the latest consoles.
So the Xbox One, the Wii, and the Wii U, and the Sony PS4.
And the blah, blah, blah, adding boards for gaming.
Yeah, so OK, so there you have it.
PC data.
This is the conclusion.
Intel is the volume leader in integrated GPUs and PCs.
Nvidia is the leader in discrete GPUs in PC,
which I get was not exactly a great mystery to anyone.
Then when you look at x86 as a whole,
more gamers are playing on Radeon graphics
than Intel and Nvidia combined.
Which is not strictly speaking true,
because I don't believe AMD applies their Radeon branding
to console products.
Oh yeah, I wonder how much of that is PS4 and Xbox One.
I think, let me see, so this says,
they actually call it Radeon GCN architecture for the Xbox One.
So I don't know if they stick that on the box,
or if Microsoft puts that anywhere
that's really visible to a consumer.
But that is what I've seen.
So one way to find out, here we go.
Oh yeah, the shot of the chip itself.
Yeah, let's pull up the shot of the chip.
So is that it?
Well, that's clearly not on an Xbox,
because it says Sony computer and it turns on it.
Yeah, this is a PS4 APU.
Thank you, internet.
OK, so no.
Are they both rocking, sort of like,
the Xbox One doesn't have an APU style setup, does it?
Like if you look at the shot of the whole board,
isn't it CPU and then GPU somewhere else?
No, I thought they were both APUs.
I could be wrong, I don't know.
Yeah, frankly I don't pay as close attention to console
stuff as I probably should and possibly could.
Speaking of, no.
Yeah, you're right.
Speaking of consoles, our PS4 Pro arrived.
How's that going?
Well, we're going to be getting started on that very, very
early next week.
It should be quite interesting.
I appreciate you guys' great, responsive feedback.
We did the Xbox One S versus $500 PC video.
So we look forward to bringing you
something else worthy of your time for the PS4 Pro.
I'm looking forward to getting started on that pretty soon.
Yeah, so do you have any thoughts
on some of the comments on PS4 Pro so far?
Apparently it runs much hotter than the original PlayStation
4 and performance doesn't scale very well.
Does that remind you of anything?
Performance not scaling well and it runs hotter.
Oh, yeah.
Crossfire.
Dual GPU, man.
Took me a second.
Dual GPU.
Would you do it?
Only if I needed to.
Only if I needed to.
Only if, like, let's.
Define need.
Let's say someone had a gun to your family's head saying,
if you don't put two graphics cards in your system, then.
We're starting out with excessive violence.
What is need?
So for me, it's like, suppose I'm walking down the street
and I happen to find, like, oh, here's an ultra-wide monitor.
Or oh, Linus is just giving me two 4K screens
he doesn't need anymore because he's such a nice guy.
Wow, keep trying, Jon.
If I just want to.
I have no need for dual 4K screens.
But anyway, if I was in a situation
where I have some sort of setup in front of me
that I want to take full advantage of where I'm like,
oh, well, this won't be smooth unless I do the dual GPU,
then I would go for it.
But again, it's not something that I'm
going to be looking to do in my personal rig
or anything like that.
So just not worth it.
At least in my opinion.
OK, let's actually, oh, you know what we should probably do
is get back to that straw poll that we promised
to bring everyone the results.
13% for yes.
So 13% of our, at that time, about 5,000 viewers
knew someone who bought one already.
So let's say for the sake of argument
that let's do some GFX whatever that site was called math.
So 300 million.
Now it's actually closer to like 330 million, right?
Oh, people of the US?
Yeah.
I think it's like 320 million.
Whatever, let's assume there are 10 million in Canada.
OK.
There's one million in Canada.
Divided by 5,000.
OK, so hold on.
So hold on, divided by 5,000, so that means times 13%.
I've actually lost myself with what I'm doing here.
Hold on a second.
Maybe try again.
What are you trying to do exactly?
I'm trying to figure out how many people bought MacBooks.
MacBook Pros.
There's also the fact that the 13%
Oh, no, so 13% times 300.
Well, the 13% of our viewers, they're
also skewed because we have a more tech-oriented audience.
So they're more likely to know someone who bought a MacBook.
So Apple has sold 42 million, 900, no, 42, yeah,
42 million, 900,000 MacBook Pros so far in the US alone.
The numbers don't lie.
You heard it here first, folks.
According to my terrible, terrible calculator mouse
math, indisputable, indisputable.
Oh, you know what?
Shoot, we should do our sponsors for the day.
Are you going to do our Squarespace spot today?
Would you like me to?
No, it's OK, I'll do it.
Oh, well, I mean, I put the thing on every time
for the best possible.
John, you do it.
You do the Squarespace spot.
OK, if you're looking to build a website,
then check out Squarespace.
You get 24-7 support, live chat, and email.
Do you guys love his accent?
Well, I hope Squarespace likes my accent
because I'm doing the bit.
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you get a free domain.
They feature responsive design.
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So if you want to sell things, it's super easy.
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If you want to set up just a one-page online presence,
those are super popular these days in just a few minutes,
you can do that, too.
And you can even publish content directly in Apple News format
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You can get a trial, no credit card required,
and you can start building your website today.
And when you head over to Squarespace,
make sure to use the offer code WAN.
That's W-A-N. Get 10% off your first purchase.
Right there.
That's where it is.
Offer code, well, that's the URL.
Yeah, there you go.
I actually don't think it matters.
Does it matter if they use our URL?
Ask Nick.
I don't handle the money.
I don't know.
But yes, Squarespace, I don't think
they have a catchy slogan right now.
Are you sure?
I don't know.
Is that just like, are slogans just like too mainstream
for Squarespace now?
I don't think so.
Slogans are never too mainstream.
Do we have a company slogan?
What's our company slogan like?
I have no idea.
Let's go to our Squarespace site.
Uh-oh.
Oh, crap.
We screwed up our DNS settings.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I screwed up my typing settings.
Well, that was almost really awkward.
I was about to say, are we going to have to try a live DNS
flush and then hope that it works?
What we do, our team logo designed
at some point for the company as a placeholder
but never changed.
Is that a slogan?
Sure.
I think it's fine.
We don't even have Channel Super Fun on here.
Our slogan could just be down the street from Tim Horton.
You know what's the worst part?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
We are missing literally a third of our company.
Yes, 10 is clearly a smaller number than 15.
Yep.
I don't even need a calculator to know that.
So there's that.
So Squarespace can't make your site updated
unless you actually do something.
No, Squarespace does not offer a team of writers,
unfortunately, for your website.
You have to do that yourself.
But all this other stuff, yes, they
will take care of that for you.
All right.
And on that note, FreshBooks.
FreshBooks is the easy to use invoicing software
that helps small businesses look professional and get
paid faster.
And it's funny that that's my talking points,
because it does more than just help
you look professional to have a professional-looking invoice.
It's about actually being professional,
billing accurately, billing on time,
tracking hours, tracking expenses, all that stuff.
Being able to accept deposits and then take the rest of it
on your own schedule.
Being able to see when the people that you're working
with, whether it's someone who's taking weekly dance
lessons in your garage, or whether it's
someone who you did a plumbing job for,
or whether it's someone you're doing small-time IT work.
I always come up with the same ones.
Help me come up with something else.
What do small business owners do?
They need people to run a leaf blower at apparently
8 in the morning when everyone's trying to sleep,
because that's what happens outside of my place
every Wednesday.
So if you run a small-time leaf-blowing business,
then FreshBooks, even if you're not a numbers person,
lets you keep track of all that stuff
and run a more efficient business
so you can spend your time making money
instead of spending your time figuring out money
in accounting software.
That's confusing.
So head over to freshbooks.com slash when.
Claim your free trial today and take advantage of their,
oh, I actually don't know what the hours of it are.
Well, it's OK, because you can take advantage of the fact
that they now offer a mobile card reader.
Oh, yeah.
They do have that.
No, I was going to say, take advantage of their tech
support.
So you can just call them.
You can call their support staff.
There's no phone tree, no return calls.
You just call them, ask them any questions you have,
and then go to freshbooks.com slash when and enter when
in the how did you hear about us section
to sign up for your free trial.
No escalations.
That's pretty key.
Let's escalate this to someone else
who doesn't know what the answer is.
That's horrible.
I'm glad they have no escalations.
You never had that happen to you?
When you call tech support for something,
and then they escalate to a manager,
but they also have no idea what's going on?
Oh, I thought you were going somewhere else with that.
I thought you were going to say no escalation.
So what's that?
So if they don't know the answer, they just hang up?
I'm not going to ask stupid questions about the sponsor
or the sponsor's fault. Give me a little bit of credit.
It's more credit than I get.
Oh, yeah.
More credit than I deserve, I think.
Wow.
All right.
So speaking of more credit than they deserve.
Positive work environment.
Come on.
Forget Mars.
President Trump.
President-elect Trump.
President-elect Trump, which is not the same.
Although he did settle the Trump U.
I heard about that.
So he settled it for $25 million in spite of saying
he wouldn't settle it.
And I bet it was a bunch of nonsense.
Listen to your lawyers, folks.
They're trying to help you.
They're trying to help you.
In this case, they probably helped
him hold on to the presidency, because settling was definitely
the better option here.
Forget Mars.
Trump wants NASA to visit Jupiter's moon Europa
and explore the solar system.
So that's good, but it's only talk until there's actually
like a check that gets written.
But his new space plan focuses on promoting
a private-public partnership, as well as setting
ambitious goals for NASA.
Trump plans to bring back the National Space Council,
last in operation under George H.W. Bush,
with the goals to explore deep space
and encourage commercial partners
to build a new economy in low Earth orbit.
Space Council would be headed by the vice president.
So does Mike Pence have space credentials?
I hope so.
I actually hadn't read the notes on this one.
Space credentials, Mike Pence.
Let's have a look here.
Well, he used to be governor of Indiana,
and that is a state that at one point
tried to set the value of pi to be exactly 3
by a legislative fiat.
So that happened.
That was a long time ago, to be fair.
We've actually got a lot of articles here
for missing credentials.
I like how you actually googled space credentials.
I said that in the worst possible way,
but you went with the space credentials.
Well, I'm not showing off my Google-fu right now,
because I really don't think he has a degree in astrology.
No, I'm just giving it a hard time.
It's fine.
And that was intentional, by the way.
I know astrology is not astronomy.
Well, I didn't even catch that.
What's your sign, Linus?
What's my sign?
Stop.
That's how you, that's the counter to that pickup line.
What's your sign?
Stop sign.
But I'm not trying to pick you up.
How do I know?
I mean, it's not the first time that's
happened on the land show, so just saying.
Do we have a chat with Luke about workplace boundaries?
We need to have a chat with me about workplace boundaries.
We really, really do.
All right, so the Space Council would be
headed by the vice president.
He also has plans to abandon climate research,
transfer Earth monitoring funding from NASA to NOAA,
and strengthen the US military stance in orbit.
So it reminds me a bit of what Reagan
was trying to do with the STI back in the 80s,
like a little bit.
It's not the same thing, obviously.
I actually, I have never followed, and you know what?
I think, if nothing else, this is a testament
to the effectiveness of reality TV,
and the incredible concoction, more potent than cocaine,
heroin, and meth combined, that it has turned out
to be ever since Survivor burst onto the scene a bazillion
years ago.
But I have never followed US politics before in my life.
Other than being vaguely aware that Obama or something
was president, and he wasn't an old white man
for the first time ever.
Which is surprising, because all I heard
was Canadians follow our politics more than your own.
I know that's true.
Oh, I still followed it.
I followed it more than my own.
Anyway, until Trump, I had never really followed it.
Now, all of a sudden, I'm reading
about congressional races, and I'm
reading about what some weird senator in wherever
the Krapistan was doing.
And all of a sudden, I have this interest in American politics.
So I have no idea what Reagan tried to do in the 80s.
And if you want to enlighten me, then go ahead.
Basically, so talking about building stuff
in low Earth orbit, SDI, the Strategic Defense Initiative,
it was to have, I believe, weapons
placed in low Earth orbit to sort of counter the Soviets.
Everyone called it Star Wars.
So basically, it's an episode of Animaniacs.
No, Pinky and the Brain.
Why did I think Animaniacs?
Wow.
It's because it started as a segment on Animaniacs,
and then it became its own show later on.
Didn't know that, but thank you.
That was a great recovery for me.
You're hired.
Again.
Oh, I see what you did there, because of The Apprentice.
No, I didn't.
Oh, well, I'm making you look great.
You're making me look like there's so many layers
to what I'm saying.
This is awesome.
Let's see.
Proposed missile defense system intended
to protect the US from attack by ballistic strategic nuclear
weapons, such as ICBMs, from the Soviets.
So this was proposed back in the mid 80s.
I think detente and all that was happening,
but the Cold War is still going on.
And so Reagan was like, hey, why don't we just
put countermeasures in space?
And he was serious about it, but I think the funding wasn't
there.
It didn't happen, but yeah.
So it was a little bit before my time, obviously.
Cool.
All right.
Let's move on.
This was posted by Good Tofu Friday on the forum.
The original article is from maxconsole.com.
Good Tofu Friday.
Which sounds like an amazing PlayStation
superhero or something.
So at NMTW has tweeted out the first picture of a PS4 Pro
console melting down after a few hours of using it.
Now the thing that makes my skepticism helmet appear
in my hand to be put onto my, I don't actually
have a skepticism helmet, so I'll wear this Linus Tech Tips
mug.
But I need a skepticism helmet because every AMD and Intel
CPU anyway, for like 10 years, has had a thermal throttling
mechanism built into it that will cause the system to shut
down or in, I don't know if AMD has this,
but Intel definitely does.
Or Intel's case caused the CPU to throttle so aggressively
that many of them can actually continue to run
without a heat sink on them.
I don't actually know if the current ones can do that,
but there were chips where you could pull the heat sink off
and they would run, albeit very slowly,
with little to no cooling on them.
So it's actually been a very long time
since chips have had no thermal protection cutoff
mechanisms whatsoever.
And they usually kick in around the 100 to 105, 110 degree
mark.
So for someone to have had a PlayStation 4 Pro melt,
and I guarantee you this plastic doesn't melt at 100 degrees.
No way.
Yeah, no.
No, there's no way.
I'm sticking with that statement.
This plastic doesn't melt at 100 degrees.
Also, for the air, the exhaust air to be 100 degrees,
the chip itself has to be hotter than that because that's
how thermal transfer works.
It is a difference in temperature
that causes heat to move from one object to another one
when we're talking about conduction.
That's how it moves between them,
is that one of them has to have less than the other.
That's how it works.
It's like equilibrium and crap, diffusion,
same kind of principle.
I'm not a scientist.
Don't worry about that part.
The fact of the matter is that chip
would have to be hotter than the air coming out of that vent,
although this isn't a vent.
So the chip could be a little bit further away.
But again, the chip would have to be hotter
than the PCB that's bone that's connected to the heat sink
bone that's connected to the bracket bone or whatever.
Whatever's next to that plastic.
I don't buy it.
The last time I had a component legitimately
die due to inadequate cooling, and we're
talking like a CPU or a GPU, an advanced component that
has a lot of safeties and logic built into it,
was I believe a 7,900 GT.
I want to say 7,900 GT, because it was back in the days
that I was still running MCW60 GPU-only blocks on my SLI video
cards, and I ran the system with no water in one of them
somehow.
I don't remember.
It was some careless error.
And my GPU block melted, and the card died.
That's the last time that's happened.
Has this been, is this, what's the word I'm looking for?
Has anyone really duplicated, has it
been duplicated en masse, this result of melting PS4 Pros?
Because people are claiming it's a hoax,
and I'm wondering how many people exactly are reporting
this, because it could just be a guy who.
Blowtorched.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, you look at how explosively viral
exposing a critical flaw in a hot new product can be.
You look back at something like Unbox Therapy's iPhone 6
Bendgate that has got 40 bazillion views
or whatever it is on YouTube.
That can be a great way to get super internet famous
super quickly.
I've got people saying there are many types of plastic,
and some do melt at about 100 degrees Celsius.
Yes, I know that.
I just don't think they would make a game console that
does run hot out of it.
If they make plastic like serving spoons,
you can stick in boiling water, which is obviously
at least 100 degrees Celsius.
Then you'd think they could make something for the PS4.
Fun fact, boiling water is not necessarily
at least 100 degrees Celsius.
It depends on atmospheric pressure, yes, I know.
And impurities in the water.
I'm monitoring chemistry, I know.
I'm just giving an example of why they probably
use a hardier plastic.
Also, in laboratory conditions at one atmosphere,
perfect purity.
It wouldn't be at least 100 degrees Celsius.
It would be exactly 100 degrees Celsius.
Yes, because it would have to be.
No more and no less.
Once it goes up, then it's water vapour.
I'm just bugging him, because I know he knows this stuff better
than I do.
But I knew a thing, and something he said
was technically not quite perfectly,
completely explanatory, which is not a word, and that's fine.
Explanative?
Of the entire situation.
Technically explanatory, the best kind of explanatory.
There you go.
Oh, the entire Twitch chat's just like LMAO,
Linus trying to look scientific.
Explanative.
You know what?
Explanative is a word, you win.
Look at that.
Really?
Yeah, check it out.
Explanative.
Serving to explain.
There you have it.
Yeah!
Well, I'm happy.
That made my day.
OK, Warner Brothers acquires gaming culture hub,
that's optimistic, Machinima, in a deal
rumoured to be valued at around $100 million.
Why didn't we just start an MCN?
Why do we bother trying to actually create content?
Why don't we just spam every single YouTube creator
and say, hey, we want to represent you.
Give us some of your money, and we
will represent you.
I guess we wanted mentally and intellectually stimulating
work that could lead us to an exciting future of living
in the box behind Arby's.
That's stupid.
But I'm totally on board.
Let's keep doing it.
All right, so Machinima will operate
as a wholly owned part of the recently formed Warner
Brothers Digital Networks group.
The group houses the studio's digital and over
the top businesses.
Machinima reaches over 151 million viewers each month.
Whatever that's based on.
Coordinates a talent network of over 30,000 exploitees.
Sorry, people.
They have people in there.
Wow.
Don't hold back.
Tell us how you really feel.
Machinima, this is a quote, Machinima
is a strong gamer and fandom content and social brand
with enormous, what does that even mean?
I don't know why you think I'm laughing.
Strong gamer and fandom content and social brand.
Fandom, how do you, you can brand fandom content?
Like, I mean, I kind of get what he's saying, but it's also.
But they are a brand.
But they're a, OK, and high engagement
with audiences that play our games
and are big fans of DC films and television shows.
What DC films are there?
You mean Batman versus Superman?
Is anyone a fan of Batman versus Superman?
What do they have besides Batman and Superman?
And I guess Wonder Woman is DC, isn't she?
Yeah, she is.
But it seems like Marvel has the huge hype train going.
And DC is like.
Yeah, we're here too.
We were cool back when Michael Keaton was Batman.
That was pretty cool.
Remember that?
Is that your Kermit impression?
Actually, yeah.
It's not bad.
That's not even 100% Kermit.
That's just me doing like this voice.
But I can get a little more Kermit.
Very good.
Maybe I'll use this as an opportunity
to try and get people to watch that channel super fun murder.
To try to watch that Mardi Gras murder mystery
video we did over on channel super fun that no one liked.
I do my Kermit the Frog impression in that video.
I like how you got Dennis to play a lawyer.
That was fantastic.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got Dennis to do something in that video.
That's for sure.
All right, the HTC Vive goes wireless with a $220 add-on.
Pre-orders start today.
Now to be clear, I am not endorsing this.
Is it going to kill the VR backpack market?
If it works, yeah.
If it works.
If it works, yeah.
But and if it works, I'm going to be eating my words so hard.
I've been telling people.
I think we're like 10 years away.
Just because of mostly because of latency issues, yeah.
Because of latency and bandwidth.
I mean, wireless HDMI does exist,
and low latency video feeds do exist.
But the latency has to be.
Like spot on.
Like your BM, the i9 was at CES earlier this year,
where you had the rear view cameras,
and the latency was almost nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah, it would need to be like that.
It would need to be, I should feel
like I am looking out of my eyes at a thing.
Yeah.
HTC's Vive chief in China, though,
tells UploadVR that there is no noticeable difference
in latency when using the TP cast peripheral, which
The Verge said, and I am 100% backing Sam Byford on this,
is something we'd have to see for ourselves.
Battery life is also a concern, but Graylin
says the regular battery can deliver about an hour and a
half of power with a bigger battery designed
to be placed in users' pockets coming later.
So.
So it's going to be a little bit clunky,
but there's absolutely no way.
I mean, if it works.
If it works, there's no way it will be clunkier than like a VR
backpack solution.
Here's the product, vive.com slash cn.
Oh, sorry.
So TP cast claims it adds less than two milliseconds, which
would be within the range of probably reasonable.
So hey, if they pull it off, I will eat my words,
and I will do it happily, because I
would love to not have to carry the tether around,
and I never play for more than an hour and a half at a time,
because by then, your face has had a thing on it.
VR out.
Yeah, and in news such a surprise, absolutely nobody.
I have almost tripped over the cord once or twice
while playing the Vive that we have here.
So I'm not sure if what I'm about to show
constitutes a violation of Twitch's terms of service.
Oh, dear, is this thing, isn't it?
So this was posted by Steve Grabowski on the forum.
The original article here is from Kotaku.
You know what, why don't we just kind of, how much can we shrink
the page to make it like kind of hard to see?
Let me see.
How low-res can we make this?
You could just put like a little thing on top of it.
Yeah, why don't I do that?
Why don't I do that?
But if the point is that it's not censored,
like if the whole story is that it's not censored,
then it seems to kind of defeat the purpose somewhat.
But you'll just have to take my word for it or go Google it.
Google has lots of naughty pictures on it, I heard.
Or Bing.
Really?
I can't believe they would allow such a thing.
So here we go.
Watchdog 2.
All right, Watchdog 2.
Watchdog 2 apparently managed to get this through the ESRB
and all the rating systems and all that,
but apparently has fully modeled female vaginas
on some of the female models.
So this screenshot apparently from Swizzasar
apparently proves that there is indeed a vagina in Watchdog 2.
Now, again, getting into more technicalities here,
the vagina would not necessarily be visible from the outside
because of labia and stuff.
We might more accurately say fully modeled vulvas
because the vagina is kind of an internal structure.
I appreciate your use of all the proper terminology.
I feel like I'm in health class in like upgrade again.
So what we're actually looking at in that picture
that I had hidden from you guys is a fully modeled vulva
with pubic hair, not necessarily a vagina.
And we don't really have any proof
that they are fully modeled vaginas
unless we also had some kind of camera device
that we could insert into the female characters.
But I suspect that did not make it into the game.
Well, this said, it slipped through certification.
Why do we think it necessarily slipped through?
Well, probably because some rogue artist or some people
knew about it and some other people didn't.
So you're saying it's not necessarily
on there or in the game on purpose?
I'm saying that someone put it there on purpose.
Well, I'm talking about when I say on purpose,
I mean by the people who have the final authority as to what
it's going to look like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK, so anyway, in summary, Kotaku
reports that if you take a picture
and share it to prove this on PlayStation,
Sony will temporarily ban your account,
which is interesting.
So Goron2000 says how he discovered this.
I received my copy of Watch Dogs 2 on Saturday evening
due to a mistake on Amazon Prime.
And I've been having a great time with the game so far.
On Sunday evening, I accidentally
blew up a few women in a back alley with a gas pipe.
And then I saw it.
Someone at Ubisoft had rendered a full vagina.
Again, we don't know if it's a full vagina,
but definitely a full vulva.
Or maybe more on one or maybe more of the females in the game.
And he shared a screenshot and had his PlayStation account
banned from using the game's online features
due to the image breaking Sony's code of conduct.
Despite the fact it's a game they're
selling on their own platform.
Yes.
OK.
All right.
So here's a leak from Toys R Us.
ToysRUs.ca.
I doubt this is still up.
Yeah, no.
I think this is just listed here because it's
like the source or whatever.
But the Nintendo Switch is rumored
to go on sale at $329.99 Canadian dollars, which I guess
would put it around $249.99 US.
OK, look at that.
They do the math for me.
Yeah, $244 USD.
But it definitely won't be.
It's not going to be that.
It's going to be some.
It'll be $249.
We'll still have a nod at the end of it, yeah.
Probably $249 GBP.
Sorry, Europeans.
And probably $249 euro because the conversion rarely
works that way.
Sorry, guys.
It's actually really funny how Canadians whine so much
about crappy pricing in Canada.
But more often than not, if we're not
talking about stupid kind of boutique fashion brands
or whatever else, when it comes to electronics,
more often than not, it's pretty much a straight conversion
plus the additional logistics costs
that it takes to get it up here and the additional cost
of doing business that Canadian businesses go through.
Electronics pricing is not that bad.
It's just that the Canadian dollar is kind of all
over the place relative to the US.
Well, you also have to ask, suppose
the CAD reaches par with our dollar again.
Are the prices up here necessarily going to go down?
Yeah, it happens.
I've heard that it happens with certain things
with different degrees, but not with others.
It's not like this uniform.
So it depends.
Logitech, for example, and this was going back
to my product management days.
Logitech used to assign their CAD to US exchange rate
like once a year.
So back in, I think it was 08,
when the Canadian dollar absolutely plummeted
relative to the USD.
Logitech pricing was like obscenely,
no, hold on, no, was cheap.
Yes, Logitech was cheap.
And then it took them so long to respond
when the CAD recovered and was actually,
I believe it passed the USD for a little bit,
but they were basically par for quite some time.
Logitech products were just way overpriced in Canada.
And I took to sourcing them through the gray market,
buying from US suppliers who were buying
from US distributors and then importing them myself
because it was the only way to get Logitech products
that were reasonably priced.
So some manufacturers make changes all the time.
And some of them basically don't adjust.
So it really just depends.
It really just depends on,
and some of them will only adjust
if something really extreme happens
and they'll just kind of absorb it
if there are small fluctuations one way or the other.
So someone like Apple might set their Canadian pricing today
and then if the CAD goes up relative to the USD,
they'll be like, okay, great,
we made some more profit on that, woo, woo, woo.
Not to say that they necessarily will
because not all of Apple's expenses are necessarily
in US dollars.
That's something people forget
is just because most companies go USA first, USD first
in terms of their go-to-market strategy and their MSRP,
that doesn't necessarily mean that the costs
in their supply chain are in US dollars.
So sometimes even though the US consumer
doesn't necessarily see this,
they could be making more or less from month to month
selling at the MSRP that they've assigned.
Yeah, you've got contract manufacturing.
Is Foxconn Chinese or Taiwanese?
Foxconn is Taiwan, no, hold on a second.
I believe they're Taiwan-based.
No, crap, they might be Chinese-based.
We can look it up very quickly.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me give a final answer before I'm gonna go to China.
It's Taiwan.
Crap!
So you have contract manufacturing in Taiwan
and obviously Apple is not just another tech company.
They have manufacturing in China.
Oh, I'm sure they do,
but Foxconn is a tech-oriented in Taiwan.
Either way, but they have manufacturing in Asia
and they're a huge multinational.
So yeah, there's so much that goes on that's not in USD.
Yep.
This is interesting.
Our original article here was from Ars Technica.
It was posted by LOLs on the forum.
The FBI operated 23 Tor hidden child pornography sites.
Dun, dun, da, da.
Deployed malware from them.
So this is a researcher.
FBI was likely enabled to run half
of all child porn sites on the servers.
A little creepy, a little ironic.
Yeah, and to be clear,
they were still actual functional child pornography sites.
They upgraded them to make them run smoothly
and all that stuff.
Like they-
Did you imagine the IT person that's tasked to do that
as like their job?
That would be very, very stomach-turning to say the least.
Yeah, as long as it's not the scene from South Park,
which turns my stomach.
You know, the guy who monitors the security cameras
in the change rooms with the big bottle of lube next to him.
What episode was this?
I don't remember, sorry.
But yeah, basically they were acting
as a giant lure pretty much.
So they were using the sites, keeping them operating.
So they were seizing them,
they were keeping them operating quietly,
and then they were just using them to track down people
who were trying to get child pornography.
It's like bait car, much more disturbing.
That is like a very gray legal area though.
I mean, the government is running legal websites.
I don't know every single tiny minute detail of that,
but I know generally,
are you talking about like entrapment
or are you talking just about the fact
they're actually running a child porn site
to catch people?
No, I'm not talking about entrapment
because entrapment,
you have to be looking for a child porn site to find it.
Yeah, exactly.
Entrapment.
Okay, do you wanna explain the difference?
You're the legal guy.
Okay, so the general rule with entrapment in the US
is just giving the,
like if you're ever watching the show bait car
where the cops will,
they'll get a car and they'll leave it like,
they'll take it to like an area that's like,
it's high crime, there's been a lot of car thefts.
They'll park it in a parking lot or on the curb
and they'll just leave it running and they'll walk away
and they'll just wait for someone to come
and try to steal it.
And so the person steals the car and they drive for a bit,
but the cops have like a,
they have a remote switch that can both kill the engine
and lock the door.
So not only does it demobilize the car,
but the perp can't go anywhere
so they come in and make a very easy arrest.
We have a bait car program here too.
And so you can,
and the reason the cops can do this is because
just giving someone the opportunity to commit a crime
is not considered entrapment.
Entrapment becomes a defense when
basically the cops induce someone to commit a crime
they otherwise wouldn't have.
But it's, like if you go to court,
it's a hard offense to-
What's an example?
Oh geez, it's actually a good question
because it's so rare that like entrapment defenses
are very hard to like get through.
Okay, so let's come up with a hypothetical defense.
Next to a flyswatter store,
they unleash a swarm of angry bees on someone,
prompting them to run in,
shoplift one and swat the bees,
and then they accuse them of stealing a flyswatter.
Like is that kind of, would that be entrapment then?
I'm no expert, but I feel like
that's a heck of a lot closer to it than, you know,
some of the other stuff that I've heard people think
that people think qualifies as entrapment, so yeah.
But yeah, I mean, even with that question aside,
yeah, I mean, I can see why they're trying to do that,
but at the same time it's like, you know,
it would be, like I said,
it would be pretty stomach-turning
to be like the people from the FBI
who are actually working on that, so.
Anyway.
Speaking of stomach-turning, AT&T.
Oh my god.
AT&T will be downgrading mobile video streams
by default next year.
StreamSaver, which you can opt out of,
will limit video to DVD quality unless you turn it off.
Now, let's, hold on, let's get through all the facts here.
In early 2017, they'll turn on StreamSaver by default.
The company says they'll let people know
when it goes into effect.
They'll include instructions on how to disable it.
You know what?
I'm gonna be really, really unpopular right now,
and I'm gonna say go for it.
I actually have no problem with this whatsoever.
I was gonna say the same thing.
I mean, to me, if you are,
as long as they make it clear, like this is happening,
here's how to disable it, they make it easy to,
because a lot of people,
if they're watching on a smartphone,
let's say you're watching about this distance,
a lot of folks won't be able to tell you
there's between 480 and 720 to begin with,
and it'll also keep you from eating up
tons and tons of bandwidth.
There are some mobile providers
that are offering like free YouTube now
where it doesn't count against your limit,
or free Netflix, but not everyone does that.
And that congests the network overall,
when what this will do is free up more bandwidth for me
when I'm trying to frickin',
I mean, I'm not an AT&T customer,
but when I'm like trying to frickin' load up a map,
like right now, and I'm in a hurry,
I actually don't see this as a terrible way
to lower congestion.
Now, you could just say,
well, AT&T should just build more towers,
and they should build,
but what you also have to understand is,
that does cost money, and like that is a solution,
but it's only sort of a solution,
because there is a limited amount of like airspace
reserved for mobile data.
As soon as we get out of the way
and if theam unite and there's an announcement
that we need to mention,
it'swe need to
people and that's that's on a big screen people don't really care and that didn't
even fully happen and no yeah and the thing it got replaced with was streaming
which enthusiasts will defend all day streaming is great yes it is but it also
is not a proper 1080p experience compared to what we have the technology
we have where you can buy a movie on blu-ray and it looks a lot better than
if you stream it audio to much better audio so so I'm kind of looking at this
going yeah I'm sure I kind of agree with this so there's that I'm sure that I'm
gonna do another I'm gonna do another ranked video I'm gonna do another rank
straw pull while Linus gets that set up um dad sent me a text and he were
talking about this celebrity strength the moves to Canada he was wondering if
you guys can also take back Justin Bieber no absolutely not why not why
would we pump some money into the Canadian economy people who like terrible
music I don't know pump some money no because the people who can the people
who buy his music are still here still putting the money into the economy he
doesn't have to be here for that concert so he can perform here without living
here what about like survivor Canada we can send Bieber to like you know
somewhere the Yukon survivor Canada send to the Yukon survivors gone now isn't it
I think it's still going I could be wrong oh it was American Idol that was
gone now survivor they're on the survivor 33 now we've had that many good
Lord so many see yeah we're still going the series was renewed for a 33rd season
survivor Millennials versus generation X which sounds like the most horrible
horrible concept for a survivor series ever debut on September 21st don't they
all sound like the most this sounds especially horrible so apparently I am
not that unpopular now for my thoughts on the whole 480p thing what's like the
most of the least like it's one least unpopular I didn't make that clear
so so this is either like really good or not pretty bad I'm not sure well at
least you know that they feel strongly about what about you one way or another
and that's better than apathy thank you John I appreciate that he pays me to say
this stuff not getting all right last article for the day this is posted by
dat speed on the forum Google will soon ban fake news sites from using its ad
network this cutting off their revenue streams this seems to be a direct
response to the election of president-elect Donald Trump who I don't
think Google has actually officially acknowledged that they have any
responsibility for it and Facebook straight-up went nope we're washing our
hands of this but basically fake news including a blog that had risen to the
top of Google's results for US election final result or something like that
claiming that Trump had won the popular vote it didn't end up being true at all
fake news and inaccurate reporting played a large role one way or the other
in the election campaign that we just witnessed would it have changed the
outcome if everything that was reported was true I don't know I'm not going to
get into that it's not my problem but what we do know is that Google even if
they haven't said that that's why they're doing it and even if they don't
feel bad about their involvement or whatever else the case may be they are
moving to make that less of a thing moving forward by cutting off Adsense
from sites that use its ad network fund themselves create fake news to get
headlines to get traffic and pay themselves for posting misleading
information I do hope that will help and also Facebook I think super super super
needs to act together because the Facebook trending feature used to be
pretty good they got rid of their human editors if that if that headline I
remember was correct they got rid of them they replaced it with an automated
algorithm and the stuff that appears now half of it is just complete junk and
it's it's similar to what's going on with Google I don't know if you've
noticed this or not I'm not sure how much time you spend on Facebook but very
very little I post updates to the LTT Facebook page and then I promptly
navigate away from the site Trent yes trending is basically it's basically
garbage at this point on Facebook and what's sad is that both the stuff that
Google is trying to deal with here and also with Facebook is um is it's just
like these fake news sites it's usually one of the two large political echo
chambers and it and people will gravitate towards whichever one suits
their preferences and they get their quote-unquote news from there so but if
you don't keep a close eye on this kind of stuff you're not going to know you
know you're not going to realize hey something's happened here where these
sites are they're adjusting their you know they're just either their SEO or
how they write headlines or anything else to to get to the top of these lists
and to be taken more seriously which is why everyone should watch the land show
the world's only source of actual unbiased news and updates TM okay no
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