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No, no, no the Samsung Galaxy s9 happened. Nope. Nothing happened that happened
What else do we have the Ryzen 7 2700 X is rumored to may have maybe be happening at some point
Okay, I think this is sort of a big deal this is back to the Samsung Galaxy s9
Word on the street is that Samsung might be nerfing the exynos version of the phone
Oh so that it's not too much better than the snapdragon 845 version
That's so as to upset their customers. Okay, so that's pretty that's pretty interesting
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How would how would that be for and someone's gonna lose their bingo if we start talking about tech any since that like one of the?
20 minutes into you know, it wouldn't surprise me
There's a lot of stuff that happens on this show a lot that probably shouldn't happen on this show quite
You know the creator of wancho bingo tweeted me. I felt I felt pretty special. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good
So this was posted by Edward the weeb on
the forum
Thanks for that Edward. There's the unnecessarily loud laugh tile
The original article is from WCCF tech AMD's second generation Ryzen 7 at
2700 X rumored to be 8 core 12. Excuse me 8 core 16 thread
3.7 gigahertz base up to 4.2 gigahertz boost with XFR
So what this tells us is that?
Second generation Ryzen is looking like a pretty small
Sort of tweak, you know ironing out a couple of wrinkles, you know, don't expect all of a sudden to be getting you know
so 48 core versions that are clocked at 5 gigahertz or anything like that evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but
Let's see 16 megs level 3 cash for makes level 95
You know more interesting anything I'd be surprised if it does to be perfectly honest
It's gonna be priced above then or do you think they're just gonna I think they're gonna slot these in above the existing ones
Here you can see the spec sheet comparison. So there's the 1700 X. Here's the replacement 2700 X
So we're going down to 12 nanometer which gets us anywhere from 200 to 300 megahertz
higher clock speeds
at the same TDP
one year later
so I mean
Okay, I can see some people being disappointed
because
Ryzen was like I forget what AMD was quoting. It was like 40% or like
60% better than their previous generation, but it's not fair. That was because AMD
Actually hadn't really done a whole lot in the last four to five years leading up to it
And so as much as it's easy to harp on Intel for these
incremental
generational improvements in CPU performance now, we're seeing that when all AMD has to work with is a
very small
manufacturing process shrink
It's really hard to do those
Generational leaps in performance the way that they did way back in the day like when AMD went from the Barton core to
A sledgehammer claw hammer. I think we're the first were those the first Athlon 64s within minutes of announcing
Okay. Well, that's fun
And like when Intel went from the netburst family up to Conroe
So that doesn't really happen that often anymore and you did some funny now that I think about it
when Intel did it way back when that was because they had been
Not necessarily sitting on ass for a few years, but they had been
Barking up the wrong tree for a few years. That's for sure. Yeah, so
Hmm. I wonder how long it has been since we've seen like a massive improvement. Like what where could we find the last one?
Maybe it would be Athlon 64
On AMD side. Yeah in general. Yeah. No just in general the last time we saw a really big generational improvement
with that said
Conroe to Intel's integrated memory controller was a pretty big leap too because we went no because they introduced quad-core first
hard to say in terms of I know I know it wasn't in a lot of different ways, but in terms of like
customer understanding and usability which is a weird thing largely due to naming but
Sandy bridge you think so? I think a lot of people kind of got it more
Okay, so, you know what? I'm gonna pick my moment for me the lat the biggest CPU improvement in performance
Was not actually Barton to claw hammer for me. The biggest difference I saw was from
Yeah, again, my point is not just performance stuff. Like I felt like the community like paying attention to forums and stuff like that
I felt like people
Understood more with that one because the product naming scheme I think made more sense
for a lot of people. So I think it was Winchester was the last single core
No, Venice might have been San Diego. Oh crap, which one was it?
Athlon 64 models
There's only something wrong with the camera
Yeah, okay, um the cameras tilted what
Yeah, okay, so I oh no no, it's uh, it's not centered
Yeah, the the thing is if you have whatever. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, I'm over it. Um,
Also, there's some wari in your sweater if we want to get really, you know
Things that we don't worry about on the land show
So for me the big one was going from single core Athlon 64 to I think it was the Toledo core
Going to dual core Athlon 64 because that was it wasn't a big improvement for gaming because back
That camera's tilted. What are they? Sorry, just keep going. I'll be back. I think i'm already
Okay
Oh max is here max max is coming to save us
Because it wasn't a big improvement for gaming. You got to remember that games
Did not benefit from dual core CPUs back in those days
But what it was was a huge improvement to the gaming experience if you had things running in the background
And it was a huge improvement to really the experience of doing anything at the same time. That was when multitasking
Really happened for me
And that's a really big deal especially in terms of user experience. Yeah
Yeah, and it's like this it's the same way and you know
the funny thing is I remember arguing on forums about dual core back in the day because
people who
Didn't see the bigger picture
Who just saw the benchmarks on whatever the site they preferred was and saw that in all their favorite games
It didn't make a difference those people would come out and say you're paying literally twice as much for
Literally twice as many CPU cores and it doesn't make any difference
And it's the same argument that I would have with people
When SSDs were first starting to gain popularity
Where they'd go well the benchmarks don't indicate a significant difference in the game
don't indicate a significant difference in performance other than like boot time and
um
They're very low capacity, but it feels amazing, but it feels really different and that's what it was like then
Yeah, and honestly since since the first good SSDs so like back when intel launched the x25m
I haven't really had that experience again
What was the first i'm not gonna google just ask you you probably know
What was the first generation that intel introduced k for their unlockable SKUs?
I believe it was the 2600k. Yeah. Yeah, so this is kind of no no no no no no no no no there was an 875k
Was there yes and back then the uh so the 875k was uh
Crap yeah, yeah, yeah Linfield Linfield Linfield yeah Linfield so Linfield was architecturally the same as
Bloomfield which was the high-end socket 1366 platform
Um I think it'd be fair to say that Sandy Bridge popularized that though
Yeah, so that was a big difference for you. I think so
Interesting. I found on on forums and discussing with my friends and all this kind of stuff people
Understood it a lot more when Sandy Bridge came around and they changed the number schemes of things
There's easier to understand like i5
i7
Really 2600k 2500k k non k all of that kind of stuff. We're taking this to a straw poll
We're taking this to a straw poll because it could be my little bubble. I don't know. I want to know
Okay, so there's a couple of angles to this but but i'll i'll get into it
Okay, core i x
More or less
Confusing okay then before and to be clear if you want to understand the entire stack
It might even be slightly more confusing. But if you're like is this one better or worse?
Brr, it's it's kind of easy. Okay guys hit that straw poll
I've got that in the twitch chat hit the straw poll. So okay. So here's the problem
within a generation
And within a product family remembering that laptop product family is not the same as desktop product family
And not the same as um, you know enterprise product family then I I I can see
Core i3 core i5 core i7 being simpler to understand
However from generation to generation I would argue when it got way worse
I'm, just saying with that generation that brought people into understanding
Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people held on after that but yes, it got messy. It was really confusing
I mean nowadays you'll see posts on craigslist where people are just saying core i7 pc
Yeah, you know 300 dollars or whatever you're just gonna go but we're way beyond we're not in sandy bridge generation anymore. Okay?
We're not in sandy bridge generation anymore. Okay? Okay
And now and now I think understanding has gone up as a whole
So you see that and you go I know that's bs and then you look into it
I think the understand and I know people are wow
This is like 50 50
I don't remember the last time I saw our community this evenly split
That's crazy
I I think it I think sandy bridge brought the understanding of the entire industry as a community up
And I think people held on whether this is people saying is it confusing in general now it's confusing now
It's a mess now. Absolutely. Um
But I think like the knowledge base as a community has gone up. Okay, and you can argue like oh well
I was on overclock.net back in
2003 and we understood way more back then
Sure. Yeah, definitely. OCN is not a good sample to pick from though. Yeah, because you're all hardcore
You guys are not representative of the general population all the forum dudes
Yeah, probably knew what was going on. Yeah, that's not what i'm talking about
I'm going a little bit. I mean forums as in like gaming forums and stuff not like
Overclocking computer hardware forums. So this is an interesting point
On a cage in twitch chat said something kind of insightful
Ltt viewers are more technical in general. So if 50 percent of us see it as more confusing regular people have no hope
I don't think that's but what's interesting
Where where i'm going with this is think about it this way. I think
regular people
Who go? Yeah, I get it. I3 is less than i5 is less than i7
I3 is less than i5 is less than i7 would actually vote less confusing. Yes, even if
They didn't know it, but they were really confused
Or are totally wrong
Right, definitely. Yeah
so which is what I liked about sandy bridge and then they just
Over years of different launches and releases. Okay, so this is interesting. This is a really good point from uh, nfsm
654
It's with sandy bridge
Some of the core i5s were dual core with onboard graphics
So this was before intel standardized on onboard graphics being on everything because they were still building the igpu
On the package but not onto the die yet. So quad core chips didn't have enough room
For onboard graphics and the dual cores did meaning that inter compatibility on motherboards was actually quite confusing
You back yourself
So I still maintain I think the overall knowledge base of the community went up and some of that's definitely
Boiled into okay. There was a really weird naming change that just happened. What's going on? Sorry. Did I say sandy bridge linfield?
I'm, sorry linfield linfield
I think a lot of it was what's going on and people talking about the differences between different processors and
What threads are and all of this other kind of stuff?
Um, and like the differences between threads and cores a lot of these conversations started around the sandy bridge time
And a lot of people actually cared about processor specs right now. It's kind of
a mess
And a lot of people are interested in cpus, but the more recent interest in cpus has been hey, there's competition now
What's better to explain to me? What's better? And that's because amd I like amd. Um
I finally have something to upgrade to yeah, whoa
So i'm not necessarily saying that it was a good thing i'm not saying
I'm, just saying that the the I think the knowledge base as a whole increased at that time right and I like that
All right
Let's move on to the galaxy s9. So this was posted in the forum by
d13h4rd2liv
Die hard to live
In the very worst leet speak of all
And there's no spaces yeah
But anyway, did you notice that edward the weeb had uh your
Like cat ear long purple hair photo thing. That was his avatar. No. No, I did not it was all right
No, I did not it was all right. So the original article here is from techcrunch.com
uh with the galaxy their headline is with the galaxy s9 samsung put the fingerprint sensor where it belongs and I guess that's probably the
Headline because there isn't a whole lot else to say about it
I actually missed my briefing today that I was supposed to attend. Oh, no, I still don't have a device
How will we know what its specs and stuff are but fortunately, um
Sort of news flash for the canadian pr team
The rest of the world is a thing
And the internet is wow the internet
Whoa, and so I can just read about this stuff on other publications websites
That's amazing where they already know this stuff because they already had their briefings like a week ago
Not that i'm salty or upset or anything. It's just that it's like whoa
Internet being in canada is like a big
Like a big dick slap sometimes
Like you don't matter as much yeah
Your population is literally one tenth of the us less than the state of california
You know what? We don't give a spit
Anyway, it's got the best dxomark rating ever of 99 though. It should be close
It should be noted that the pixel 2 is at 98 and the iphone 10 is at 97
97 so we really are splitting hairs at this point
Looks pretty similar to last gen but better camera
As I just mentioned, uh snapdragon 845 in the us and china and then exynos whatever the crap it is
Something nine something something elsewhere. Uh, they moved the fingerprint sensor to a more usable spot. I think I already said that
They're gonna have animojis
Um
Though to be clear, they're not normal emojis like apples. They're more like wee mees or bitmoji. Do you remember mees on the nintendo Wii?
Well, I don't know probably the biggest nintendo fanboy, you know, did they have it on the wii u yeah
Wait, did you have a wii you had a wii? Yeah. Yeah, okay
I play more wii now than I did when it launched. It's still great. Actually. There's yeah, I only play wii sports
Yeah, my son loves wii sports wii sports is amazing. I actually I interrupt this
Very compelling news about the samsung galaxy s9 to bring you
um a personal confession
Um something that is actually really hard for me to talk about it's it's it's actually related to the nintendo wii
So, uh as some of you probably know my son is about five and uh, wow, he's almost six. Holy crap
Wait, did he beat you at something? Shut up. Okay. Let me just I need to ease my self into this. Okay
so my son is almost six and
Could you maybe enjoy this a little less i'm so excited sorry continue
My son is almost sick
Shut up. Just keep going just chill out. I believe in you
so my son is almost six and um
He's been playing we we actually created a me for him when he was like three and a half
I was like trying to see if like the stick waggling was simple enough that he could do it wasn't he wasn't he wasn't ready
Yet, but over probably the last year or so
He's gotten to the point where he actually uses the wii more than the vive which is
Depressing for a whole other set of reasons. Yeah
Um, but but he's gotten to the point where he's played enough wii sports
Wii sports that first like he would he was like a pro in wii tennis, right?
You know how you can play against the computer and you get over a thousand skill level and you're a pro at tennis
And the tennis one, um, that's not all the tennis one's pretty easy
um, and but he got to the point where he was not just a pro but he had a skill level of like
1650 or something which was more than mine. Mine was 1400 and something but the reason that my skill level wasn't very high was
Because I never played single player. I would always play against my wife or like
My sister-in-law because the last time I used the wii was when I still lived with my wife's parents
So it was like the family console and we'd like tool around on sunday night playing wii sports or whatever. Yeah
Okay
So so I was quite a bit better than my skill level would indicate
So he would like he would go all like five-year-old kind of sulky
My skill level's higher, but you still beat me
like without
Without even using like the cheap return whenever you miss a power smash
There's a cheap return that if you time it's not even that hard to time but it's ungettable
On both the forehand and the backhand if they don't manage to power serve
And so I would beat him like without even using that
then
And he'd complain he'd be whining about it then like a couple months later
I'm playing against him and he takes a set and i'm just like
Okay
Like I wasn't really paying attention. I was holding the baby in the other hand and I was like, oh shoot. Oh, okay
Um, darling, can you get down? I gotta I gotta beat your brother at wii tennis. Um, then he takes another set
and I go
What?
So i'm like, okay full on cheap mode now
So i'm i'm doing cheap returns like ungettable returns. I'm power serving everything to him
And I win it
Okay, so I take I take three sets in a row and he's like, oh I almost beat you
Literally like two weeks later
He he sweeps me
and i'm like
Is this petty?
You know what? I don't care rematch. I asked for a remaster. I asked my five-year-old son
for a rematch
He beats me again three straight three straight again
I don't even feel bad about him kicking my ass at wii boxing because we boxing is quite frankly
just who can flail the best and i'll like i'll play against him and i'll like try and time punches and it's just like
Come on, it's better to flail like it's actually better to flail and it's so funny the way he plays it
Is so funny. I have a video of him doing this that i'm saving for his wedding
But instead of just like going like this
He gets his whole body going and it's just like
So the kid the kid will like
He'll come out of playing a couple games of wii boxing like drenched and i'm like, wow, this is great
Because the whole idea behind the wii was that it was more physical. Yeah. Yeah until like
Jackasses like me figured out that they could play twilight princess like this. Yeah
You know and like yeah, i'm still joystick waggling or whatever but i'm not i'm not moving yeah, yeah, um
So I can still kick his butt at golf
I can still crush him at bowling actually almost got a perfect game
I I missed one pin on the first one
Which made me feel a lot better
Then all strikes through to the end and then I missed one pin on the end
So i'm actually really glad I missed that one pin at the beginning because otherwise that one at the end would have
Destroyed me as a person
Yeah, we use sports club. Um, oh, oh, is there a wii u one? Yeah. Okay, cool
Maybe I should get a wii u. It's probably cheap. Yeah
And then what's the what's the last game?
Oh the baseball baseball movie is just stupid like yeah, he beat me at baseball
But like baseball is just a matter of like who luckily connects with a pitch
Because as soon as a human is pitching you could just throw all the cheapest garbage and it's like unhittable
Do you have the improved sensors? I don't okay. I don't think we sports is we motion plus compatible though
So I don't think it matters. Hmm. Yeah, the uh, the wii u controllers have it built in
Yeah, and they're the same size as the default controllers. Okay, which is kind of nice cool
Um, and I believe all wii u games work with it because it's the default controller. Yeah, okay
well, maybe maybe i'll get a wii u at some point but
Anyway, that was my confession. It actually happened. I was actually trying not just trying already
Not just trying already like I was I was hitting cheap shots that I knew he didn't know about this is like playing like nhlpa
94
And doing wraparounds on the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah when someone else doesn't know about it like that is to be fair
That's how I was playing wraparounds are pretty easy to like pick up on if someone's doing it to you. Yeah, but yeah
dude, man, like I
That's pretty rough. Yeah. Um, what is the number one game?
That would hurt for him to be better than you at
You know, i'm not really that good at anything. Um
Yeah, like there's there's games where I just really wouldn't expect him to ever be better than me
Like I don't think he'll ever be better at a side scroller just because that genre is not really popular like like modern side
Scrollers what like trine like that's not a
Yeah, not so much like I think there's some like really niche like ultra hardcore
Yeah, like you could argue the super meat boy is a modern ish side scroller
But even that's like years old and and like it's a dying
it's it's it was like a it was like the you like press down on the chest of the corpse and it's like
Like it's not breathing anymore. It's just
Like a last last gasp so to speak. Um
Cuphead doesn't know like I so yeah, I wouldn't yeah cuphead's not that's not it's not super mario world
Yeah, it's it's more advanced than that. There's more. There's a lot more to it
There's a lot more to it. So if he were to beat me like if you were to be better than me at like super mario
world i'd feel pretty
Devastated but I don't expect that to happen
It would be kind of like it would be kind of like me being better at shuffleboard than my grandparents like
Yeah, if I put enough time into it, I could probably do it, but I wouldn't care. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Like i'd be concerned about him
Old games
Yeah, so badminton
No, I fully expect him to be better at me than better than me at badminton starting
I am planning to when do you think that will happen?
I'm going to be paying like 75 an hour for badminton coaching for him within the next few months
Oh, like he is going to prodigy level. He's going to the best
badminton facility in canada
He is going to be it's here actually arguably
There's been there's been more national level players. Yeah, but there are other other places have done well, too
They've had they've had good products as well
Um, and then if he's good enough, I would happily pay for him to train overseas if it comes to that
So as far as i'm concerned if he is not beating me at badminton by the time he's about 11 or 12
Then we need to reevaluate
Because i'm not that good
So is he's into it. Yeah, he likes it. Yeah. Yeah, because he's already brought like no he's already
I want to make sure I knew that I wanted to get that out of you
so the twitch chat knows that you're not just being with like
No, not kind of dad. Yeah, he's already playing a couple times a week. He likes it
Yeah, I also fully expect him to be better at martial arts than me. Although by the time he by the time he gets like a
Oh shoot this is gonna happen sooner than I had sort of thought about but by the time he hits like nine or ten
He hits sort of like
Red brown belt i'm probably gonna have to try and get back into it. So I don't get passed too quickly there. But
Yeah, I I fully expect him to be better than me at everything if he's not then I failed as a parent because that's your job
Can I be like a boss along the way?
A boss? Yeah
I think he's probably going to be quite a bit smaller than you for ever
Have you seen his mother but he'll be and his father he'll be more skilled
He'll be like the light character that you choose on the phone. That's the funny thing about that is um
There's a reason
That like the UFC
Doesn't have heavyweights fight lightweights. Okay, Chun Li wouldn't actually stand a chance against Blanca
But the little dude that teaches me jiu-jitsu can kick my butt
So that's a thing. Okay
Eventually i'll get with that said if you weren't jiu-jitsuing
And you just went for a football tackle. Yeah, does that still go down that way? Probably not
He's a very nice guy, okay
Yeah, so within the constraints of the sport you get your butt kicked but yeah, um
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And we were kind of sitting around going like okay. How do we how do we do this?
Yeah, there is a there's an export for this. I'm just gonna pull it up
I don't think it's actually live on floatplane yet, but i'm gonna pull this up because it's really cool
I just want to show the demo here. Uh, but we were sitting around going, you know, how do we how do we do a video?
For synergy, um, that's not just a shill piece. That's like actually cool and we're like, oh, I don't know
Maybe we could just do a shill piece and then it might actually be cool and it worked out really well. Check this out
Okay, that ended up being a little more a little more dramatic than I hoped i'm just going to skip ahead to
Okay, check this check this out
So they're all firing up. That's windows 7
uh os 10 or mac os, sorry windows 10 and linux and then what I can do
With this monitor. This is that lg monitor. That's cool
Right, that's cool. And then you can switch full screen with the remote for the monitor. So I was using the remote there
You can just go
Uh, you can get out of picture by picture
And go full screen to any one of them in 4k 60
And then you can press another button to go back to your tile setup
Cool, right that is pretty cool
So we're going to go back to our tile set up
Cool, right, that is pretty cool. So you can effectively be using four different operating system workstations at once
And switch between full screen and having all of them and then when they're all on so there's a toggle for synergy 2 that they're adding
Or they've they'll have either added it by the time this goes live or they've added it already
So that through the taskbar of any one of them you can toggle synergy 2 on and off
So that when you go full screen your mouse doesn't fly off the edges. Yeah. Yeah because all of
The the full screen versus not full screen that's being handled in hardware by the monitor not by the seamless 2 software
That's a really cool setup, isn't it?
I can actually think of a lot of different industries that would like that. Oh, absolutely
So it's one of those niche things but for the people who are into that pretty freaking cool
So anyway synergy 2 makes it easier than ever to mouse and keyboard share between multiple systems
They've got new networking back back end that helps with complex networks
They've got oh the ssl encryption has been moved from the pro to the basic tier
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But also pay attention to the rest of the wan show because we're important too. Should we get back to the galaxy s9?
Do we even care?
960 fps slomo that's cool. HD 0.2 seconds. So probably end trigger I guess. I'm hoping so
Oh instead of trying to time your button press it will apparently
It will apparently ai try to detect where the action is in the clip and apply slomo to that part
Yeah, I guess at 0.2 seconds you wouldn't even have time for end trigger
Okay, we'll see
This is interesting. So the original article here is from a non-tech. I was just browsing through and I don't really know how
um, this wasn't bigger news, I mean
I mean a non-tech called it awkward first results. That's one way of putting it
um, but in a nutshell
It'll be either exynos 9810 or snapdragon 845
And if we go down
Oh, what's the final clock speed that they'll use blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Active blah blah blah memory latency
Etc, etc
Okay
Big little design. Here we go. Here we go
So geekbench 4 single core performance snapdragon 845 got absolutely crushed
By the 9810
How very interesting
Uh last generation etc, etc. Okay again, uh, oh wait, that's uh still geekbench 4
That's it splits it out pc mark work 2.0
So the 9810, uh does not crush the snapdragon 845 here
Where is it? Yep there snapdragon 845 is right up on the top. But basically
Oh, thank you for that
Okay, what seems very clear something's wrong. Oh no
Oh
Luke was plugging in my power. Did I actually not make it almost got it by like milliseconds almost got it
Oh, man
Oh, that was great
No, that's fine. They can't see it. Um, okay
Oh man, okay, so clearly there's something kind of wrong and basically the writer checked in with samsung. Here we go
I did get
Confirmation. Okay. Here we go
Samsung spokesman confirmed that the demo unit
Was running special firmware for mobile world conference. So these results because you can clearly see they're totally bummed up
because the pc mark score has
the um
Exynos 9810 getting creamed by even the last generation exynos. Yeah
Um last generation snapdragon and of course current generation snapdragon. So clearly something's wrong here
So confirmation that the demo units were running a special firmware and they might not be optimized
Uh, he's having a hard time believing they would so drastically limit the performance of the device for show units
Honestly, I don't find that that hard to believe all kinds of games get played with
Yeah, uh phone firmware for shows and even for reviewers, but check this out
Did get confirmation that samsung is planning to tune down the exynos variant to match snapdragon performance
Wow, so i'm actually not sure how that wasn't bigger news because I can see
A lot of different ways that people can get upset about this
And I can't see a lot of ways where people wouldn't be a little bit upset about this
So the two ways I can see people being upset upset number one would be if I got a snapdragon 845
Galaxy s9 because there's always controversy there. Yeah, and with apple
It was even so what was it a10 was the first one they did it on where they dual sourced from tsmc
And and then one of them was better than I forget. Yeah, one of them was arguably
sometimes
Better than the other and it was mostly in terms of battery life where people were getting upset because one of them was
One of them was a little bit more power efficient, but it was close enough
I think it was within five percent like it was close enough that you were also
Playing around with the variations in battery capacity at that point
um
So I can see people being upset about getting the perceived
trashier chip
The other thing I could see people being upset about is if you're in the european or asian market and you've got
an exynos
1995 having it be nerfed and see this is probably one of those situations. Yo, what's up samsung?
This is probably one of those situations where samsung realized that this these problems could happen
So they decided to try to quietly make them the same so that people wouldn't argue
Which you know from a certain standpoint I kind of understand they're like we just don't want people to freak out
So if we make everything the same then it's great
But then people are going to freak out because then they should have gotten an advantage
Is this samsung?
Is this samsung?
kind of going
Well, you know the canadian region probably won't care about this phone
Until such time as it's available through canadian carriers. So let's just not bother briefing them. Like is this them going? You know what?
You know outside of the u.s
Americans probably don't read you know non-american news outlets. So they're probably not gonna like look that closely at the exynos version
So like as long as we seed all the us outlets with snapdragon ones
Should be fine. Like are they is this them going?
Okay, as long as we keep it contained within a region then no one will figure this out and you know
The mainstream consumer probably wouldn't is that what's happening here?
Wow, um, I think
Okay, so I think it's been proven many many many times that
Nerds are gonna figure it out mainstream consumer. No mainstream consumer is not gonna care
There's an iterative number. They're going to see it's the s9 and they'll want it if they're getting a new phone for whatever reason
Okay, i've got a lot of people asking this and we really need to we really need to address it
Uh, I can't find the first person who asked it, but let's um, let's go down to this one. Uh, who was it?
Oh, man
Something something. Okay, whatever the question is
Why here we go, uh der fuhrer 123. Oh, seriously, why did I read that?
Why doesn't samsung use exynos in the us and china
And then another person asked why does samsung
A not a designer and fabricator of mobile cpus not use their why do they use qualcomm CPUs?
in their phones
and the answer is actually
a little more, uh interesting than you might at first think
There was a different word. I was looking for and i'm i'm complicated. No, it was like delicate, but it wasn't delicate
It was a little more
subtle a little more
Whatever I forget so the reason i'll say radio compatibility is actually one factor. Um, but
samsung could probably figure out how to support more bands with their chipset if they really pretty sure that wanted too hard enough
Um, but one wants nuanced, thank you. That's the one. No, that was the chat. Oh, thank you chat nuanced
I just I read it in chat. I was like absolutely so there are business reasons for doing it
So first of all within samsung's different business units like for example their fabrication unit that also
As you guys probably know builds ram or nan flash or even processors for competitors
Within samsung's different business units. I have it on fairly good authority that samsung unit a won't actually get a discount
Compared to the open market from samsung unit b
So if samsung mobile wants to buy nan flash for their phones for storage
so if samsung mobile wants to buy nan flash for their phones for storage, they don't get like a
Discount compared to if apple were buying it. It's all down to that business unit
the the fabrication business unit needing to make the best profits they can and negotiating deals based on
Volume based on capacity based on all the things that they would normally do
So there's one reason why samsung mobile might not be married to exynos chips
Reason number two is that building a cpu is really hard
every time
Look at snapdragon 810 even qualcomm who has been other than apple
Basically the undisputed leader
For a lot of the last few years can really screw it up sometimes
So if samsung were to just say ha ha for our note and s lineup
We are not going to use your top tier chips. We're going to stop marketing
Qualcomm technology being good. We're we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna burn this bridge because we can make our own cpus
If samsung were to do that and then flub up a generation or two generations of chips
Two generations of chips they could put their galaxy s or no products at a significant disadvantage
compared to the lg's and htc's of the world guys who
Didn't invest in that fabrication technology, but also
Aren't taking that risk. So samsung is dual sourcing not just to make up fabric fab capacity
Which as far as we can tell is why apple does it also to play the different fabricators against each other?
um
Oh, yeah, that's another reason so that they can play samsung's own business unit against uh external ones
um
Where was I going with this?
Right. So there's also a business reason for dual sourcing not just to make up fab capacity, but also to hedge your bets
so samsung has the ability to ramp up and do exynos in more regions if
You know qualcomm ships a dud again, but they can also cover for their own dud in the event that qualcomm's technology is significant
That's a huge one and samsung. They can't really okay. I'm 100% certain they can't afford it
But i'm gonna say in this immediate apparently they're also legally required to use their chips in their phones. It's a 25 year old agreement
Weird, so that's another one. Uh, but but
Having another big launch failure would be really bad this close to their phone bombs
Remember too samsung could also just use qualcomm chips in their lower end stuff
It's not like samsung doesn't have a bazillion models of phones. Yeah, but why they might do it on within a single model
There's a lot of reasons. So there's that and then there's all the other stuff that we're talking about as well
All right
Apparently also qualcomm cdma patent and licensing so until cdma goes away
They'll just basically be forced to but with all that said I have an exynos galaxy s8
It works fine in the states, but it just might not work on all carriers. So it wouldn't work on sprint
Who else is still cdma cdma will be going away sometime in the next little bit
It can't be that many carriers though. I don't think it's that main. I don't know who uses cdma still who in canada
Uh bell did until recently. I don't know if they do anymore. They might be gsm now
You know, yeah, I don't I don't pay that close attention so at and t
Really? They're all still using it sprint verizon
And us cellular. I didn't know verizon was still using cdma at and t and t mobile or gsm
Fun according to google anyway, and then apparently bell mobility in ontario quebec is still cdma
Tell us the cdma here. There you go
It's interesting, but we don't know necessarily that they're only using it. Yeah
so
Yeah again, I don't pay that close attention to that stuff
Because i'm just not that big of a cell phone nerd if i'm going to be honest with you guys
Uh, what else do we have for news? Oh
I don't know. I just got dropped out of the dock for no reason happens. Once a show
Really bad timing. I don't know why it does that perfect. Uh celebrate
Right is now advertising they can break the security of ios 11 including the iphone 10 for pretty cheap too
Original article is from forbes
Now you have to have the phone physically in their possession
Yep, so you'd have to ship it to them and apparently it can cost as little as fifteen hundred dollars per unlock
Their service can determine or disable determine or disable. That's a big difference actually
Uh because determining if you get someone's phone temporarily when they lost it and you ship it off and get their pin
And then get it back and get whatever you want and then be like, oh my god, I found your phone
Um, yeah, not great
Uh, yeah
They can determine or disable the pin pattern password screen locks or passcodes on the latest apple ios and google android devices
Yeah, brutal
so, uh, we have to take this with the claim of with a grain of salt because
um celebrates business is
Breaking security of devices for like forensic data analysis
Um, so, you know, they might just be looking for some free press, but it seems like it would be sort of a bad move
To put out something that's designed to get you a bunch of free press and then anytime anyone contacts you about it
You can't actually do it. Yeah
So they haven't even publicly announced it but apparently they're advertising the case
They're advertising the capability to their customers. So that sounds pretty credible. Yeah
It can determine or disable the pin the pattern the password screen locks or passcodes on the latest devices. Wow
Wow
Pretty brutal not a fan of this really
That's pretty much it actually is there like anything else that happened this week that like is super important
We don't have anything else in the dock because james has been busy on a really cool project
Have you even seen this yet? No, like you're so out of touch these days. Wow. So we built um, you've lost your son
in tennis
Huh
Tell you what, why don't we play i'll play you i'll lose but i'm down i'm down. All right fine
I'll get wrecked but it sounds entertaining. Anyway, it's a cool project. So I was kind of inspired by um,
um, the tape deck that we have in our house for some reason and you know how you you used to be
You pressed like a physical button like a mechanical button to kind of uh to switch things
Yeah, so I was like, you know, it'd be really cool a gaming setup where you've got like a tactile button
For switching between your different devices
Different devices. Yeah
So because you know pc gaming is not the only kind of game. Yeah, I got you
So james and anthony collaborated we didn't actually end up with as cool buttons as i'd hoped
They're like vandal resistant switches, unfortunately
But but what is cool is that I wanted to work like an rgb element into it
So they built a desk not quite scratch built but like used the ikea desk builder then modified it quite heavily
That has a bunch of circuitry in the top including an arduino
And an hdmi switcher
So that what you can do is there's three rgb color-coded lights on the front
For the three gaming systems that are in
Shelves, okay working their way down along down one side
Yeah, and then when you so when you press the red one it does the top
And then the rgb lighting in the drawer illuminates and the input switches on your monitor
This legit sounds like a sellable so you're on your pc thing
Then you press the second button the rgb lighting illuminates matching the button the middle one and you switch to your xbox
Press the third one. You switch to your playstation 4 pro. That's really cool. Pretty cool, right?
You guys should figure out how to sell this as a kit
Uh, it's kind of janky still it would require significant
Uh further development to make it ready for prime time. That'd be so cool though. But you know, we okay
So we know a lot of other guys out there have been doing like setups for a while
Yeah, and so for us, you know, we we've had some ideas for setups like you saw the projector one, right?
With the projector built into the desk. That was very cool
Yeah, so we've had some ideas for setups
But like we really wanted to find a way to make sure that what we're doing is different from what anyone else is doing
so that was where the idea of
projector built into your desk or like
A physical button to switch inputs between your different gaming systems came from and I really like it
I think this is something that we're going to continue to do and uh, you know
I'd love to see people's ideas if you want to post them on the forum. I am actually fairly active over there
Yeah, I don't post a lot, but I do read a lot. Yeah. Um, yeah
Yeah, I really i'm really happy with it
Um, all right, so I think that's pretty much it
Cool we have a ton of people
Um, no, yeah viewing too. We've got like 6 000 viewers and then we've got a bunch of people cheering
Oh, this is a new thing
Oh, yeah, so it used to just show the top cheer like ever. Yeah now it shows the weekly top cheers
And it like totals their cheers. So like this dude, i'm a broke dude who's hilarious
Hilariously number one cheerer right now. That's why you're broke. Yeah, so
That's why you're broke. Yeah, then maybe stop that
um
If he talks in chat if any of these top three talked in chat
They have a little metal next to the name and his will show a one his will show a two and be silver
His will show three and be bronze and then the one guys is gold got it. Okay
Me it's a new thing. Oh, apparently there was switch see there there look. Oh, i'm a broke dude
And it shows one right next to him on a gold medal. Oh, oh no
There was other news, uh, the xbox one x and the xbox one s are getting 1440p support
So that's dope
uh
What would that already be there? No, they supported 1080 and 4k. Oh, so now if you don't care about 4k
Which you probably shouldn't because you're gaming on a tv
Um, oh so you can tell it. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, cool, right? I see what you mean now. That's very cool
Actually, yeah, okay. I'm totally on board now. Apparently at first I was like what the heck apparently there was nintendo switch news
I don't know what it was. What?
Uh, uh, uh, uh, no, I don't know. Oh, okay. You can use a playstation 4 controller
That's an article that I saw earlier that I thought was kind of neat
Anyway, I think the 1s and the 1x supporting 1440p is a way bigger deal
Because if you use a console at like in a dorm or whatever, you probably don't have a 4k tv
You probably don't have a tv at all. You probably have your desk which
If you're smart has like a big monitor so you can use that as a monitor and as a tv if you're smart and you're a
Baller, although they're not that expensive these days, especially like compared to a tv
Anyway, the point is a big monitor will probably be 1440p if you don't want to spend a whole bunch of money for 4k
And if you get like one of those korean ones. If my university experience was anything if there's big screens in dorms at all
Uh, they're probably TVs and they're probably real old right? Okay, so fine
So fine, if you're a baller student, you can get one of those korean 1440p monitors on ebay
You can hook that up to your pc and now to your xbox and you can get better image quality
We know about the github thing github got nailed by a massive ddos and they recovered real quick. Good job github. There we go
Yeah, it was huge though. It's a gigantic ddos
But yeah, they recovered quite quickly. Good job github. See you again next week. Same that time same that channel. Bye
Bye
Slomo from ratrina's is like yeah, um, we're already past the 300 so
um
Yeah
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