And here we go.
Are we live?
Theoretically, yes.
Hey.
And we need like a Linus Tron logo in the corner.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
I'm working on it.
I'm just getting that centered.
Get that cable kind of, oh, yeah, that's just, I don't think.
It's like I'm happy everything works, but this doesn't look great.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
We're working on it.
OK.
So it's official.
Pretty much everything about the WAN show set up here
has been overhauled at this point.
There are still a couple of things that we could do to improve it.
In fact, I have a bunch of them listed out in my WAN show improvement ideas
list here.
Oh, wow.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Where'd it go?
Oh, maybe I deleted it.
This is a long list.
No, no, no, not all of it is list.
In fact, maybe none of it is list.
Here we go.
We could put padding on the table so we wouldn't get as much audio reflection
off the table.
We could put clouds above the set, like dampening clouds.
We could have rolling sheets of acoustic batting kind of around the camera
on the other side.
He means like on wheels so we can push them around.
Yeah, yeah.
Not like rolling thunder, you know, like that's
the best thunder impression I could make.
Actually, everything else here that's on my list we have already done.
What thunder goes, wub, wub, wub, wub?
Like dubstep thunder.
Look, I don't make the rules about how thunder
gets impersonated or impressioned.
Either way.
So people are already asking about the Casey Tron thing.
OK, well, that's a perfect, absolutely perfect first topic for the WAN show
today.
We should probably explain like what was happening to the archive viewers.
Hold on a second.
Is that even one of our?
No.
How do I even spell K-A-Y?
Yeah, OK, that's not one of our topics for the week.
So we don't have a source for this.
But before the WAN show started.
Well, it's not them.
They didn't do anything wrong.
No, no, I mean, yeah, yeah, no, no, it's not.
It's just our doc preparation team wouldn't have known anything about this.
So before the show started, our channel was hosting Casey Tron.
Yeah.
For some reason.
Maybe you could explain why our channel would have been hosting Casey Tron.
So I noticed this with my, anyways, Twitch
is doing this thing where there's auto hosting.
You can have it so that when you're not streaming.
You should explain for people who only really watch WAN show on Twitch,
what exactly hosting means first.
Yeah, no, I'm getting into that.
Oh, OK.
So auto hosting, the idea of auto hosting
is that it will automatically host other channels.
Hosting is where it will show the video feed of another channel
on your channel when you are offline.
So the idea behind it is that if you were like super bros with someone,
then you could set your channel to host their channel
so that when you're not streaming, they get additional viewers
who happen to be on your channel.
It can make a lot of sense, especially for groups like Nerd Fusion.
If one of the guys at Nerd Fusion is not currently streaming,
they can host another one of their buddies.
They're all a big team that are trying to help each other grow.
That is very good for that.
People like Kyle and Paul host each other.
That makes tons of sense.
They collab all the freaking time.
Yep.
People that want to help each other can do that or your channel
could do that just to try to keep your audience engaged.
If you have people that stream in very similar styles to you,
that's kind of what it's supposed to be for.
And auto hosting is a way to handle all of that
and do all of that without you having to go into your chat
and going slash host space channel name.
You can just set up a group of people that you want to auto host,
and it will do that just automatically.
Now, Twitch changed something where it went into originally
all of these settings were off by default,
and you had to manually host things.
It was an opt in.
You had to manually host things.
Then when they came up with auto hosting,
you had to go put in the channels that you wanted to auto host.
And then Twitch was just like, well, we want this to happen because.
I just want to jump in and, I don't know,
a tenth of the messages in chat are people setting up auto hosting for us.
Nice.
So you guys are cool.
You guys are bros.
Carry on.
And it's actually really cool, the idea of auto hosting.
Yeah.
But when you set it up, it's really cool.
For your friends who might have content styles
that you consider to be appropriate and related and cool for your audience.
I mean, for example, our channel is not flagged
as a mature audiences only channel.
Yeah, so we probably shouldn't host ones that are mature audiences only.
So what Twitch did is they made it so that everyone
was auto hosting random pools of people.
So our channel was auto hosting Casey Tron right before the show.
Everyone showed up because when show is supposed to happen,
we're late as per usual.
But not like waiting too late.
Hey, we were not that late.
We were late.
We were like seven minutes late, which is actually.
A lot better than normal.
Yes.
Yes.
But we were still a little late.
And people often show up early either way.
So people are here waiting for when and then Casey Tron's there.
And it's like, what's going on?
And then she went on the forum and then apparently she
confused RAM and CPU or something.
I don't know.
I read something about that in the chat.
I don't want to directly quote that.
I didn't listen to it.
I didn't see it.
I didn't hear it.
So yeah.
Anyways, our auto hosting has been turned off.
Yes, sir.
And ma'am.
And everything in between.
Yeah.
And let's roll the intro.
We're moving on.
I think the really.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
When did that happen?
But today.
Well, like a business deal.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But they're one of the sponsors of the WAN show today?
Yeah.
Oh.
Like actually, yeah.
That wasn't a mistake.
Cool.
OK.
So you know what?
I guess probably the best thing for us to do right now.
We're going to have a full like upgrade vlog style
video of all the improvements, most of which
you can't see right now.
The whole chat is like, oh my god, intro had sound.
But we have made a lot of improvements to the WAN show.
I'm just going to show you guys some of the stuff we've done.
So check out the desk now.
It's like, OK, it doesn't look that tidy, but trust me,
it's like pretty tidy.
Like this is just our laptop power adapters
that are going into this power splitter here.
So it's actually completely tidy,
other than like Luke's laptop, the HDMI cables
that we each have, because we can both screen share now,
the 10 keyless keyboard that Corsair hooked us up with,
so I have a little bit more space for the keyboard, mouse,
and laptop here.
Also, you might notice none of the audio gear
is there, because it has all moved to the bad ass.
Go around the monitor.
Yeah.
Hold on, I got this.
It has all moved to the bad ass retro server cabinet.
So none of this would have happened.
Oh, oh, I forgot.
I forgot like the most important piece.
The WAN show PC, we made it great again.
How RGB is that, my friends?
How RGB on a scale of 1 to RGB is the WAN show PC?
Because there's six RGB fans.
There are six RGB fans.
Thank you for that, Luke.
But I also have an RGB mouse and RGB keyboard hooked up to it.
Is that RGB keyboard?
Yeah, it's an RGB keyboard.
Looks like a red.
I just don't have it configured right now.
But it's definitely RGB in its heart, in its heart.
That's all they asked for.
So none of that would have happened
without Corsair hooking us up, without Focusrite hooking us
up with all the new audio gear, without Epiphan hooking us
up with, see, check this out.
You don't have anything incriminating on your screen,
do you?
OK, cool.
So we can do Linus's screen.
We can do Luke's screen.
Boom.
Also, you're in extend mode right now anyway.
So yep, you sure are.
Oh, and you went to PC only.
OK, Luke's a little new.
He's a little new at this, OK?
He's still learning.
So we got all that stuff.
We've got a better WAN Show streaming PC than ever before.
It's got 64 gigs of RAM now, six core processor,
NVMe SSD boot drive.
It's like dank AF.
Super dank.
I saw, like, I don't know if they can see.
There's like the old WAN Show.
No, they can't see.
No, they can't see anymore.
It's the old WAN Show PC with like the RAM and heat sink
just strewn on top of it hanging out in the back.
They're just chilling.
They're just chilling over there.
See, there they are.
Bye-bye, bye-bye, peace.
Peace, old WAN Show PC.
Later.
Rest in pieces, all of that, you know?
Yeah, so.
So I'm super stoked.
We've moved on.
We have, I believe, and I don't want to jinx it,
but other than our hideous table,
we have completely moved on to the point
where we shouldn't have any issues anymore.
Should we tell the story of the table?
Sure.
Why we have such an ugly table?
Brandon wanted me to change the table.
Do you support Brandon's initiative to change the table?
I don't think so.
I like keeping the table.
So who was the first person to work at Linus Media Group
and use this table?
Me.
And why are there like acid etched marks through the paint?
You might have to show it.
OK, OK, we're bringing back the webcam.
Also, we have a webcam now that's
going to always be here, just as like a way for us
to just show random stuff.
I mean, obviously, it's not like color corrected or anything.
But do you see the entire like edge of the table here?
It's like you can see like the main bad spots
like here and over there.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's all burning from like my wrists
from working so long.
This is the table that the original Titan videos all
came out of.
That's right.
Which is like one of the most ridiculous pieces of work
I've like literally ever done.
Yeah, good old original Titan.
Yeah, this was my desk for a very long time.
And the paint's like thin and it's isn't an Ikea desk.
So the story goes even further back.
The origin story was that we were starting up Linus Media
Group and we had no money.
Like for us, budgeting for a gallon of paint
to paint the walls in the garage was like a significant line
item in our startup costs.
So one of my old coworkers at NCIX, his aunt or something,
was getting rid of some Ikea furniture.
And I kind of went, oh, Ikea furniture
has kind of that stigma.
And then he's like, no, no, it's old Ikea furniture.
It's the good stuff.
So this thing is like bomb built.
Like it has a metal frame under the incredibly heavy tabletop.
Like it's still some kind of a composite,
but it's not like, have you guys ever cut apart an Ikea desk?
Yeah, they have like corrugated cardboard inside them.
I mean, they're light and they're actually very strong.
And this is not an Ikea sales pitch,
but like it's a pretty cool technology.
You know, we save materials and all that.
But like, they light up like crazy.
They weren't built like, they're not built like this thing was.
Not good for fire resistance.
So what we did was I got, again, it
was a significant investment at the time,
but I got a spray bomb of like kind of textured speckled paint
with the idea being that this table can pull double duty,
because it was, oh, it was incredibly ugly when we got it.
I think this beige color is the actual tabletop color.
It's like an off white.
It's awful.
So I was like, this table can pull double duty.
We'll run our benchmarks with the test benches on it.
And then we can also use this cool texture
with this fancy paint I spent an extra $3
on to do like B-roll glam footage on it.
Oh.
So now we've obviously moved on from that.
But the table still holds a special place in my heart.
It's one of the first things Linus Media Group ever owned.
And we didn't pay for it.
It was free.
Did I mention that part?
They were giving them away for free.
So that's the story.
Sort of epic.
And we don't need a replacement.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
It's fine.
This table is a reminder of where we come from.
Yeah.
That's right.
So.
Nope.
No, Brandon.
Bad Brandon.
All right.
Speaking of out with the old, in with the new,
the original source here is WCCF Tech.
And they claim, according to the headline here,
AMD Ryzen lineup and prices confirmed.
Eight cores for as low as $320.
Putting Ryzen right competitive with twice as many cores
and overclocking capability with a four, excuse me,
we're up to 7,700K.
Sorry.
I forgot there was a difference.
Oh, right.
Oh, OK.
There was a thing that, not to jump too far,
but I think this might actually be an upcoming topic.
But we'll get more into it a little bit later.
Yeah.
There was Intel saying that there's
going to be a 15% performance bump on the 8000 series chips.
And a lot of people brought up a graphic that shows like, yeah,
and you said there's a 15% performance bump last time too.
So anyways, that was awkward.
I mean, what is a bump?
Well, OK, it was in one specific benchmark.
I think it was like more for their mobile chips or something.
Oh, no.
Was it like a video transcoding one?
Is the onboard GPU better than ever?
Sysmark, I think.
OK, Sysmark is broad enough that it's
kind of hard to tell how well it would
represent the improvements.
Did you see me slip that in there?
I did, yeah.
So much shade.
Anyway, so the entire Ryzen CPU lineup
has been verified and pricing confirmed
through various online retailers.
At least three different CPUs are
supposed to be available on day one.
And I got to say, if I hated the name Ryzen before,
the amount of hate that I have for the model numbers that
go with it is an entire order of magnitude higher.
So they will include the Ryzen 7 1800X, the Ryzen 7 1700X,
and the Ryzen 7 1700.
So R7.
It's like I actually have a video.
Hold on, I'm going to see if I can see if this comes up.
You should make a video just called
How to Name Your Product.
That's actually not a terrible idea.
Not that many people would watch it,
but hopefully they would be important people,
like Min-Lang Tan, and oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Shaw, wide open internet, whatever.
Thank you.
I was playing games with my brother and a friend of ours
the other day, and they were both on Shaw,
and their internet connection completely
cut out multiple times while we were playing.
And it was funny, because you knew it was Shaw,
because we'd be playing, and then all of a sudden,
just boop, both of them are just completely gone
at the exact same time.
OK.
It was great.
So this video is all the evidence
that I need to back up that confusing naming schemes.
Wow, that's so many more views than I thought.
Confusing naming schemes are a big load of bollocks
that need to be gotten rid of.
Nobody knows what a Core i3, i5, or i7 is.
5.6 million people.
You could get away with saying seven.
I could say seven.
5.7 million people had to watch this video
to understand what the heck is a Core i7.
And apparently they needed it, because the like and dislike
ratio is really strong.
It has 92,000 likes, with many of the comments being
about how annoying my voice is, how I'm probably gay,
and what's one of the other really common ones?
Oh, and how my earrings need to die in a fire,
because any videos that I host.
That get big enough to get out of the circle.
Yeah, get out of the sort of people who kind of get it.
So other than those comments, a lot of it is like, wow,
thank you for this video.
I had no idea.
This was a very confusing thing for me.
AMD is making this even worse.
What does seven mean?
Especially because most of the leaked product lineup
references that we've seen so far
indicate that everything in the initial lineup
will be seven.
Yeah.
I sort of hope that they come out with R5s and R3s,
just to like be totally horrible.
Also.
Just because I'd want to watch the world burn a little bit.
I mean, you already have four numbers.
Yeah.
You have 1,700.
Maybe that first number could mean something,
and then the next one could mean something,
and then the other two could mean something.
And again, and they probably will
have some horrible document that's like,
what do the product lineup numbers mean?
So what do the model numbers mean, Intel?
Intel actually has this.
Here you go.
Here we go.
If you need this, you suck at naming products.
OK?
Especially if we're talking about, here, this is all Xeon.
Really, this is all Xeon.
They have an entire page about Xeon.
OK, whatever.
There's a consumer one too.
Here we go.
It's a separate page, OK?
I like the thing is it can change.
If you need this, then you're terrible.
Like, what is this?
What is this?
Why is the product line suffix in a different place
than the product line suffix?
Why is the skew numeric digits moved over here?
Why?
What could possibly be a reason for this?
Did they have a focus group?
Did they have a focus group where people told them,
oh, yeah, the way you were doing it before,
that was really sucky.
So could you maybe make it more terrible?
Did the focus group say that?
Because I think the focus group is full of a bunch of trolls.
And I love how they just add stuff in.
Like, that one's a mobile processor, sure.
OK, why does it just have letter suffix?
They don't have more than 26 product lines.
So why?
Yeah.
I mean, what's 26 times 26, OK?
So 26 times 26.
They're just trying to get away with having HQ in there,
because it sounds like high quality.
What is going in here?
What is going in?
They don't have 676 product lines,
so they don't need two letters.
That's for sure.
We know this.
Also, these are skew-specific digits.
There are three of them.
So that's 999, OK?
999 times, hold on, what was 26 times 26 again?
676, OK?
So let's go 676 times, what was it?
999, OK?
They don't have 675,324 SKUs.
What do they need them all for?
Times three.
Yeah, times I7, I5, I3, Pentium.
Oh, yeah.
Don't forget Pentium.
And Celeron.
That's a different modifier, though, because those
could be on different things.
Oh, so anyway, I will give Intel and AMD at least this much
credit, OK?
At least they change the product name
when they release a new product.
The new product might not perform any better.
It might be a rebadge of the old product.
At least it's not like Intel late 2017 I7,
because that would be worse.
Oh, man.
I mean, at least Intel.
I was trying to explain this to Yvonne last night, my wife.
So I was telling her, hey, Luke needs
to borrow our media center PC.
So if you and the kids are watching TV while I'm
at Badminton tonight, use the Nvidia Shield.
And she's like, oh, how do I hook that up?
I've never done that before.
And I was like, you just use the Harmony remote,
and you go play Shield.
She's like, oh, where is it?
Is it on your nightstand?
And I'm like, because Nvidia released the Shield handheld
console called the Nvidia Shield.
Then they released the tablet, and they
called that the Shield K1 or Shield tablet or something.
And at the same time, quietly renamed the Shield
to the Shield Portable.
Then making matters worse, they released their Shield Android
TV, which they then just started calling me Nvidia Shield.
So I was talking about the Shield Android TV,
and she thought I was talking about the Shield Portable
because she doesn't care about the Shield Android TV.
Or just because she got lost in the product naming.
Yeah, exactly.
This is what we're talking about.
Do we have an actual topic to cover today?
Probably.
I find this.
Oh, right.
The rise and fall.
If the audience agrees with me, I
find you ranting about random stuff far more interesting
than rumors about a processor that isn't out yet.
But you know.
OK, so back to the processor that isn't out.
The 1800X is looking like it's going
to be in that 6,900K sort of competitive price range.
Wait, how much is this?
No, 6,900K is like double that.
Cool.
I've seen them on sale for considerably less than that
as well.
But you said, wait, 6,900K.
Yeah, so this is looking like AMD
is going to be in that sort of like the cheaper alternative
that performs better.
That's all considerably cheaper than 6,900K.
Yeah, that's like $1,000, isn't it?
So word on the street is like half the price.
And if AMD can be close to the performance,
we are going to be looking at a very, very different playing
field.
Slightly over $1,000.
That's slightly more of a discount than half the price.
95 watt TDP on this sucker?
And they're quoting 65 watt on the 1700,
which if pricing is anything to go by,
looks like it's going to be taking on
if they're targeting half the price.
So that would be going after something like a 68 or a 6,700K.
Whoa, OK.
As long as boards aren't totally unreasonable,
this is going to be one heck of an interesting rest
of the year.
Yeah, I'm continuing my skepticism
until it is actually in a bench.
I've been burned far too many times.
So the WCCF Tech article speculates
that the 1700 at $316 US will be 6,900K class performance.
Let's see.
It's going to come down to overclocking in all likelihood.
But let's see how that turns out.
But for the majority of consumers,
the non-overclocking numbers are going
to be what really matters.
That's true.
So like, I'm very excited for both of those, actually.
How they both overclock and how they both perform without.
What I'll say is this, that part of the fun
has been taken out of overclocking for me.
Yes.
In the last three to four years.
And the reason for that is that the chips are already
clocked at like 4.4 gigahertz in some cases.
There's not that much headroom left.
4.4 Gs is like kind of a lot.
Whereas if AMD comes in and says, OK, you know what?
We're going to sell them at lower clock speeds.
And we're going to bring back some of the fun,
some of the silicon lottery.
Because right now, you can expect pretty consistent
results, give or take 300 megahertz on reasonable cooling
out of an Intel processor.
Whereas if AMD goes, OK, yeah.
They're going to be cheap.
We're not going to sell for this much.
We're not going to like bin them close to the wire.
And they're going to overclock like a bat out of hell.
Have fun.
Some of them might not.
I might get into it again.
That could be cool.
I would love that.
That would actually be a total blast.
The overclocking game has been pretty boring,
especially with like shots fired,
but with like Nvidia cards right now.
Yeah, Nvidia cards are about as little fun
to overclock as anything.
Holy crap.
Don't even bother.
GB Boost.
Thanks, bro.
I mean, it's nice that we're getting all the performance we
can out of a product out of the box, which is great.
But I sure wish that Project Greenlight was.
Artificial limitations.
Yeah, I sure wish board partners were allowed
to just like build crap.
That power edition card.
Which one?
That got yanked.
Remember the 660 Ti power edition?
Yes, I do.
Yep.
I still have one of those pre.
Do you really pre-nerf?
Yeah, it's still awesome.
It's still really wicked.
Anyway, not one to take this kind of thing lying down.
This was originally posted in the Linus Tech Tips form
by Num Lock 21.
Intel is rumored to be creating higher clocked Kaby Lake
CPUs to combat Ryzen.
I'm going to go out on a limb here
and say this won't be enough.
Hopefully not.
Oh, yeah, I hope it's not enough.
Yeah.
For a quad core.
So the rumored skews, overclock3d.net is our source
here, are the i5-7640K and i7-7740K.
And it looks like about a 5% bump here and about a 3%
bump here.
What are those going to cost, though?
Also, it looks like we may get an i5 with hyper-threading,
which would be very surprising to me.
And if Intel introduced these, I suspect they're
going for one of two tactics.
Either they think that Ryzen's single-threaded performance
is not going to be on par with Kaby Lake,
especially at this kind of clock speed.
So they might be counting on Ryzen's single-thread
performance at the clock speeds it can hit,
not being able to compete with Kaby Lake at 4.6 gigahertz.
And they might be thinking, you know what?
We can bring these in above the existing chips
as gamer-oriented skews.
And these really will deliver the best performance
in games, which is possible.
Or Intel is in full-on panic mode.
Because with how inbred the entire IT industry is,
I guarantee you there's working Ryzen silicon in Intel's labs
right now.
There's absolutely no way that there isn't.
So the other possibility is Intel is in panic mode
right now.
And these are going to come straight in as replacements
for the 7700 and 7600K.
And they are getting ready for a significant price adjustment
on the LGA 2011 three-platform chips as well.
I still hope it's not enough.
So you hope that Intel underestimates
Ryzen in spite of the numbers on paper
indicating that performance will be very good enough
that AMD claws back some market share,
prompting someone at Intel to go, oh,
maybe it would be worthwhile to invest in CPU R&D
for single-core performance again.
I think it would be very healthy if AMD
is able to just walk around as king for even a few years.
I don't think it's going to take a few years for Intel
to respond.
I don't think it is either.
But that would be awesome because they could really
use the revenue for a while and getting back
into the mainstream conversation.
Because as much as AMD is talked about by us
and as well as the AMD content that we really
tried to crush, good job, at CES did,
market share is super not there.
And if we could get closer to 50-50,
it's a gamble how much, which person is going to buy what.
Maybe in the DIY space at least.
I don't think, you know.
If we could get new builds and planning on our forum
to get closer to 50-50 with these chips,
that would even be really cool.
I want something to light a fire under Intel.
Because as scary as it is that part of me
worries that this might be the last time we ever
see a big push from AMD.
I mean, it's not like Jim Keller is going to go back and save
them again.
And he's working at Tesla now.
I worry that if this isn't enough to kind of prompt Intel
to get their gear into gear, get them into gear.
Yeah, thank you.
We got there.
It's fine.
We made it.
Nailed it.
I worry that we'll just never really,
I mean never is a strong word, but I
worry that we will never really see a fire lit
under those guys again.
So yeah, this feels like our chance.
On the subject of fires, this was posted by Suicidal Franco
on the forum.
The original article here is from Forbes.
Thank you for the quote of the day from Richard Branson.
A fire broke out at a Samsung battery factory.
Wha, wha.
Oh, man.
Just going to let that sink in for a moment.
I was just going to say, we're just
going to sit there for a sec.
Yeah.
There isn't even like a ton to say.
It was a Samsung affiliated factory in Tianjin, China.
Hopefully I said that right.
Caught fire on the morning of February 8th,
not even that long ago.
Picture circulated on Weibo, a Twitter-like Chinese social
media service.
I've heard of it before.
I've just only read it.
Showing black plumes of smoke above the factory.
The fire didn't affect production,
a spokesman has said.
We don't have a quote in the doc at least about whether anyone
was injured or died, but we do have a quote about production.
Yeah.
I'm assuming if production wasn't affected,
probably no one was hurt.
Everyone was fine.
Let's hope that that's the only reason that that
made it into the statement.
Yeah.
But apparently it was caused, so this is actually good news,
by discarded faulty batteries.
So it wasn't caused by pallets of batteries
that were on their way to be shipped to Samsung or anything
like that.
Oh, phew.
Apparently this factory was within the production scope
of Note 7 batteries, so that's kind of funny.
Oh, man.
But considering it was discarded batteries,
could be related to that.
Yep, could absolutely be related to that.
And speaking of injuries and stuff and potential production
losses, there is a different Chinese factory
that replaced 90% of their human workers with robots,
and they saw a 250% increase in production.
Wow.
The factory used to be run by 650 employees,
and now only 60 of them still work there.
And most of them are there to ensure that the machines are
still in working order.
So it's probably more like the millwrights and stuff
that were working there are still working there.
Yeah, pretty ridiculous.
Robotic arms produce certain parts of the mobile phones
that are produced at the factory at each station.
Ugh.
Wow.
The general manager has said that the number of human
employees could drop as little as 20 someday.
So they could cut by another third, taking 650 down to 20.
That's 1 30th?
Is that right?
1 30th of the workforce?
Wow.
Apparently the pieces per person per month
has risen from 8,000 to 21,000.
That's that production increase we talked about earlier.
And this company is far from the only one making the change.
I mean, we've talked about things
like McDonald's wanting to roll out restaurants entirely
staffed by robots.
I mean, this is something that, and I'm not
going to pretend that either the left or the right
have it figured out at this point.
But this is something that the politicians have to figure out
and have to address.
Welfare state is going to be a thing.
Socialism is going to be a thing,
or we are all going to starve.
Most of us will.
Period.
There will not be jobs to bring back
when robots are doing them.
And there's been a lot of talk about,
like, oh, well, every time that some new major technological
shift has happened, there's just been more different jobs.
Unless literally everyone ends up
going into the entertainment sector, which
doesn't make sense.
Unless it does.
Unless it does.
But then everyone's going to have to be,
those jobs will often be paid at ridiculously high amounts.
Let me propose something here.
These robots build hard drives that power the cloud.
The cloud, hold on, let me think for a second here.
No, no, I had a way for this to work.
OK, the cloud pays entertainers to stream.
So Amazon, OK?
Amazon's an example of a cloud provider that owns Twitch, OK?
So they pay entertainers to play video games.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
They pay entertainers to stream to each other
and use the cloud, OK?
The cloud people go buy food from more robots that make food.
And then those robots use that money
to build more robots that build more hard drives.
OK.
So the future economy is based on hard drives.
Yeah, Seagate and WD are totally.
They're just going to do great.
Totally stoked right now.
And the idea that you have to be both producing
entertainment and consuming entertainment at the same time.
Well, we're going to get real good at multitasking.
I mean, I'm firing up Casey Tron's stream right now.
So there's going to be streams of people watching
streams of other people.
Yes, which is probably already a thing.
Live reactions.
That's definitely, yes.
And then there has to be live reactions to live reactions.
Yes, and streaming critique of the state of our society
where live reactions to people reacting live to something
that's happening that a robot's doing
is like all that's left for humanity at this point.
Yeah, maybe factory simulator games
will get really, really popular.
And the whole idea of factory simulator
is that there's so many automated factories with robots
that everything that you could do is in existence somewhere.
So it just every time that you build something or change
something in the factory, it just
changes into a live feed of a factory that is like that.
So factory simulator just becomes like a simulation game.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah.
So speaking of getting paid to be an entertainer, I fix it.
Yay.
I fix it has a lot of stuff that is probably in my notes.
Oh, yeah, I fix it's great.
We love I fix it.
In fact, I think I know I was using the kit.
That's why it's not there.
It's in the, yeah, that one.
And I think there's one there because I was taking something
apart with it.
Anyway, I fix it builds amazing tools for taking apart
and putting back together and repairing and upgrading
your electronics.
They've got everything from their complete one
bag to hold them all solution that's
got their magnetic screw holder, their microfiber cloth,
their multiple different screwdriver sets.
Yeah, it's OK.
Someone's probably using it.
It's fine.
All the way from the whole bag down to the Protech toolkit,
which has all the little prying tools you need for taking apart
mobile devices, suction cups, all that good stuff,
down to this one, which is the Essentials.
Oh, no, one of the guitar picks fell out.
This is the Essentials electronic toolkit.
So it's got one of their trademark spudgers, which
is a poking and prying tool.
It's got their old version of their driver with, what is it,
16 bits.
It's got their ESD safe tweezers.
It's got one of their suction cups.
It's got one of their knife things
and one of their other prying tools.
They're all great.
These prying tools specifically, I love those.
I use them all the time.
These are the bomb.
The number of times that I have accidentally damaged something
by using a prying tool that scratched it, lots.
Lots when it wasn't that one.
There's little things that they think of.
Check this out.
This is how you pull it out.
Yeah.
See, because there's a little cavity there.
So you can just pull it out like that.
Pretty cool, right?
So that's it.
I recommend pulling out.
And I recommend using iFixit toolkits.
And you can save on an iFixit toolkit
by heading to iFixit.com slash Linus
and using offer WAN show to save 5% on a purchase of $10 or more.
Also sponsoring the WAN show today,
I think I do remember something about this.
But we weren't going to do it until we finally
upgraded the WAN show set.
And we were actually using their capture cards.
So we worked out a deal with Epiphan,
where I basically went, OK, look.
We need capture cards that aren't terrible.
In the upgrade vlog, you guys are
going to see the capture card and microphone
graveyard that we keep under the table here.
We had tried so many different ones.
So I was talking to Epiphan.
And I was like, look, we need capture cards
that actually work.
So here's the deal.
You guys send us some capture cards that actually work.
We're going to use them for a couple months
to ensure that we are 100% certain they actually work.
And then we are going to do our part
to get the word out there that Epiphan capture cards actually
freaking work.
So here we are.
We are months in.
The only issues that we've had with them
have been due to overwhelming a single USB controller, which
we were able to solve actually a couple weeks ago
by popping in a PCIe USB controller card.
And now I am pleased as punch.
You plug them in.
They automatically detect the resolution and the frame rate.
Everything is ready to rock instantaneously.
The streaming quality looks great.
And they just work.
I think that was all I was really asking for.
They just work.
And they've got actually some recent firmware updates
that make them great for not just professional video
streaming and whatever else.
And they're great for PC capture as well.
So they do 2560 by 1440p now.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
That's cool.
So they actually do like PC resolutions and stuff
like that.
They really do care.
And they're a Canadian company.
Yeah.
They're like, it says right on the made in Canada.
I was like.
They're on the ISS.
I did not know that.
They use them for video capture.
This is the second time I've told you on stream.
Really?
Sometimes you've reacted the same way.
Oh.
I must have forgotten the stream.
Yeah, I know.
It's cool.
I just, I find that part very cool.
Anyway, they've got a fantastic lineup.
Everything from the AVIO, SDI, HD, and 4K,
which are the ones that we use predominantly.
So if you've noticed the dramatic improvement
in the quality of our video capture in our videos,
that's thanks to Epiphan.
That combined with that BenQ monitor
that has HDMI pass-through allows
us to capture exactly what's happening
through multiple reboots.
Because Epiphan just switches resolutions on the fly.
So if you like blue screen, it captures the whole experience.
The bio's coming up.
Now we have ways to just capture everything.
And we can do it without interfering with the test bench
system at all.
Because everything's being done through an HDMI splitter
that's built into the monitor.
And then it goes out to a completely separate system.
I think we may have love-hugged their website.
And their website might be down.
Sorry, Epiphan.
But if you Google Epiphan on the ISS,
you can find a few different articles.
One of the top ones is Epiphan takes pro.
Oh, it's starting to load.
It says Epiphan takes pro AVs aboard the International Space
Station.
And another one is about how they brought it
to a NASA tech fair.
So that's sort of cool if you want to read about that.
I like that a lot, because I like space things and NASA
and stuff.
Anyway, they also have PCI Express cards.
So their DVI to PCIe Duo is another one that we have.
That one is a little bit more manual in terms of the setup.
So the one that I really recommend,
if you're looking for a grab-and-go solution,
I almost always have one in my backpack,
is the AVIO 4K is my personal favorite.
We use the SDI for our camera, because we've
got an SDI camera.
And then we use the HD for just my computer
here, because we don't need 4K for a 1080 stream.
But yeah, love it.
Love everything about it.
Check it out at epiphan.com slash avio slash wan.
Remember to go there later as well
if you're having troubles connecting to that right now.
Yeah.
It's good stuff.
And it's actually not unreasonably priced
either, which is great if you just
want to pay a couple bucks more and get
something that actually works.
All right.
Yeah, a bunch of other people are saying that it's out.
Sorry, sorry, Epiphan.
Sorry, Epiphan.
We tried.
Yeah.
All right.
So in a surprise move that surprised no one,
this was posted by KuruFinwood underscore wins.
Wow, worst username ever award.
You win.
Nvidia announces their Q4 2017 results, record profits.
Record, record quarter, gross revenue, $2.173 billion.
This is up $700 million from their previous Q4, unreal.
Net income is at $655 million.
I mean, this is just unfathomable numbers, hey?
Yeah.
Wow, that's unbelievable.
Poor AMD.
They posted their results two weeks ago,
$1.11 billion in revenue, loss of $51 million.
And they're in the CPU and GPU market.
Unbelievable.
So yearly numbers, $6.91 billion revenue compared to $5 billion
the year before.
Like when you're as much of a monster as Nvidia is,
I kind of go, yeah, how do you grow like 30% year over year?
Well, apparently they figured it out.
Unreal.
Crush your only singular competition?
Yeah, I guess so.
So here's their quarterly revenue trend.
Look at that.
They were doing $1 billion and change.
Boom, second half of this year just on fire.
I mean, remember too.
Nvidia is one of the biggest benefactors
of things like deep learning, things like autonomous driving.
I mean, that is Nvidia's wheelhouse right now.
And AMD is going to have to demonstrate to someone
like a car manufacturer in a big way
that they're still going to exist in five to 10 years
if they're going to expect these guys to buy into the ecosystem.
This is very, very important.
There's more to it than just, well, AMD GPUs
are great for this kind of processing too.
If you're investing in building out
like a supercomputer or something,
there's no such thing as buying from a company
that you can't trust in addition to it having great performance
or great specs or whatever the case may be.
OK, so this was posted by Zmule on the forum.
The original article is from the Steam community here.
Very interesting.
Green light is going away.
Fascinating.
I'm trying to find information on this.
I believe the BMW autonomous car was
running NVIDIA tech in it.
If I recall correctly, it was.
But I don't remember what it was.
I suspect the car companies are funny, where a lot of it,
they're not going to just say like the BMW XDrive,
whatever the crap, do you want a GTX Titan XP or a 1080?
And that affects how many pedestrians
you can dodge before you smack into a wall or whatever.
It doesn't really work that way.
They're just going to say with NVIDIA.
It's really funny that NVIDIA's compute card, the Tesla,
would be a name that no car manufacturer other than Tesla
would be willing to say.
And even for Tesla, it would be a really weird message.
Yes.
But they might just say with NVIDIA deep learning
technology or something like that, like there's
going to be something else.
So it looks like they're working with BMW, Mini Cooper, Tesla,
Audi, and Mercedes Benz.
NVIDIA is.
But they're not saying like exactly to what extent
or blah, blah, blah, blah, but that's
their partners for autonomous driving.
So the new system that Valve's introducing
will be called Steam Direct.
It's expected to go live this spring.
They've been dissatisfied with Steam Greenlight
for a while.
That's good, because so were a lot of people.
Gabe Newell described the system as probably bad
for the Steam community.
I like how he's pretty blunt about things.
Stated that the goal was to make Greenlight go away,
not because it's not useful, but because they're evolving.
So Steam Direct will enable developers
to get their games on Steam without having to pass
an approval process first.
They will ask developers to complete
a set of digital paperwork, personal or company
verification, and tax documents similar to signing up
for a bank account.
Once they're set up, they will pay a recoupable application
fee for each title they wish to distribute.
It's intended to decrease the amount of bad games submitted
to Greenlight as a joke.
Valve has said there are now more than 100 Greenlight
games that have earned at least a million each, many of which
wouldn't have been on Steam in the first place
if it weren't for Greenlight.
So they're not saying Greenlight,
we should have never done it.
They're adding some barrier to entry.
Yes.
And it's recoupable, so I'm not entirely sure what that means.
All right.
It's probably like part of Valve's fee
every time you sell a game doesn't
exist until you've paid off that recoupable amount.
That makes sense.
Yep.
And then you're back in it.
I mean, I've talked to folks like guys
over at extremesystems.org.
They added a $1 fee to sign up for their forum.
And they were like, yeah, the dollar is meaningless.
It means nothing compared to the administration and hosting
costs and all that stuff.
The point is it's anti-spammer.
So someone has to submit a dollar
with some kind of financial institution,
and the spam was gone.
And I'm sure it was, and that would help a lot too.
We're not going to do that.
But I can totally understand the benefits of that.
We hurt because of troll jerks all the time.
We have a pretty substantial mod team of awesome people
because of all the terrible things that are attempted
to be done on the forum.
And we deal with them, and it's fine.
All right.
Speaking of terrible things and dealing with it,
you were not super stoked on Nintendo's game lineup
for the Switch.
Does this give you any hope?
This was posted by Good Bytes on the forum.
I don't think a ton of people were super stoked on it.
There's a lot of problems with their game lineup.
One thing that this is, one thing
about this that is good is that third party publishers seem
to be coming to the Switch a lot more
than they were with the Wii U.
From 70 publishers.
70 publishers is pretty good.
A lot of the publishers seem to be liking the fact
that it's mobile.
That seems to be a huge draw for people.
Mobile, but not a phone.
You don't have to go through Google or Apple.
You don't have to compete in the App Store.
Yeah.
And even the cartridges are very mobile.
They look like 3DS cartridges.
They're not the same.
They're not compatible.
It doesn't work that way.
But they look really similar, which
is good because you can haul them around with you
very easily.
There's a huge amount of expandable storage.
If you want to be a just downloadable title,
there's a lot of titles coming to Switch
that are only download that will not be getting physical carts.
So if you're playing those games,
you're going to need to buy a big SD card real quick
because the 32 gigabytes of onboard storage, which
part of that's going to be taken away by the operating system,
is going to disappear fast.
Real fast.
So expect to be adding the cost of an SD card to your system
if you ever plan on downloading games.
Yeah, sales of like 256 gig SD cards are going to be like money.
It will be eventually, when they exist,
compatible with two terabyte micro SD cards.
So yeah, that'll be a thing eventually.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's better.
The main disappointment that I had
was the first party titles, actually.
Right.
The fact that it's just well, you buy Nintendo for Nintendo.
Yes, I do.
Yeah.
So that's what made me sad.
Do you own any third party titles for the Wii U?
Some, but not very many.
Right.
Yeah.
Most of it's first party stuff.
There are definitely a few that I own, but not very many.
It's one of those things where, for the Wii,
I have to go back that far to the last time
I bought a console.
But for the Wii, I bought Super Monkey Ball for it.
And I was just like, this is a lot more games than Wii Sports.
But Wii Sports was free, and every single one
of the games in Wii Sports has so much more replay
value than these mini games in Super Monkey Ball.
That's a huge issue and disappointment with the Switch.
There is no free included game.
And one thing that really helped the Wii
was the inclusion of Wii Sports.
Wii Sports is a great game.
And this should really have 1-2 Switch included.
Because 1-2 Switch, I don't think a lot of people
understand the benefit and the fun of 1-2 Switch.
It just looks like a stupid game at first.
But if you think about it for a while,
it's actually really cool and a very good party game
and a very good game for bringing the Switch with you
on the road.
You don't have to look at the screen.
So just setting it up in tabletop mode
and then playing while looking at each other
makes a ton of sense.
Getting people into gaming that is social
aren't necessarily into games.
Super easy, because you can play things
that are more sport-like.
It makes a huge amount of sense.
But it is a full-cost game.
It's like $70 or something.
Oh, man, I don't know.
I don't think they're going to move as many as they probably
should be.
Yeah, I don't know.
My son plays Wii Sports more than he plays VR.
Yeah, and Wii Sports brought everyone to the Wii.
Yeah.
My mom was super stoked by Wii Sports.
Everyone that played the Wii was super stoked by Wii Sports.
Wii Sports is the reason that I own four Wiimotes, two
Nunchucks, and instead of one Wiimote and one Nunchuck
and like, well, they didn't exist when I was still
buying Wii accessories, but a GameCube controller.
Yeah.
So that I could have maybe a classic controller.
It's the reason that I own two to three times as many Wii
peripherals as I did, because the in-laws wanted
to play two.
Anyway, we'll see.
One of the biggest, exciting things
that I have about the Switch is getting one-two Switch
and then playing random mini games with Emma.
Right.
Because then it's a way to make it so that it's
so the idea of making it so that you're playing a video game
but you're facing each other is super cool.
I don't know.
Nvidia, well, Nvidia 2, I mean, their hardware is in it.
But Nintendo is apparently very bullish on the Switch.
So they're saying that, blah, blah, blah,
after the presentation we receive more requests
and more and more software publishers,
et cetera, et cetera.
Unannounced new titles will be detailed in the future.
Reiterated that Nintendo plans to ship
two million of the new console worldwide by the end of March.
That is pretty aggressive.
They're sold out freaking everywhere.
Like, actually everywhere.
Now, it's not that surprising, because Nintendo
is kind of one of those guys that is totally
down with, like, artificial limitation of stock.
Like, the way that Wiis were arriving before Christmas
that year was like, you guys had these.
Yeah, yeah.
You're just trickling them out, because you're jerks.
But hey, I made a lot of money on that.
I got a free Wii, effectively.
I was so, have I told you my story of buying a Wii?
No.
I was, like, interested in buying one.
I don't remember if I worked at Best Buy this time or not.
But I was walking by one of the, like, end of aisle kiosks
things.
And an employee from the warehousing section
just walks out with a Wii.
And I'm like, oh, OK, someone got one of their reserved Wiis.
Plunk, puts it on the thing.
I'm like, OK, just picked it up, immediately went and bought it.
And I'm, like, basically 100% certain
that was supposed to be someone else's unit.
And it just, like, got screwed up in the inventory system.
Wow.
And they put it out on the shelf.
I camped twice.
I think I've told you that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was, it was really fun.
Like, I did it with my wife.
I used to like camping.
We both camped out.
That's the, I think it's one of the,
I don't think I've ever camped for anything else.
I've camped for quite a few things.
Halo 2 was my favorite game that I ever camped for.
Peasant.
Have I ever told you about that?
So I had bought the, like, magazine
that talked about, that had, like, the Halo
exclusive details in it and all that kind of stuff.
I think it was Xbox Magazine.
Physical Magazine.
This was a long time ago, OK?
And I had read the entire thing many times.
Like, this was, like, a worn magazine
by the time we were in lineup.
And they had a guy come out who was giving swag away based
on if you could answer questions.
So I was the first person to put my hand up every single time.
I got every single answer right to the point
where they started vocally being like,
we're not answering questions from you,
or we're not taking answers from you anymore.
And they would scan other people.
And then they would keep on getting it wrong.
And they'd eventually come back to me.
And then I'd answer it correct.
It was so good.
Someone backed up to the lineup with a truck.
And they powered a big CRT TV off their truck.
And everyone was playing Halo 1 out of the back of their truck.
That was sick.
Really cool.
I actually used to enjoy that stuff.
That's funny.
That is one thing I miss about, like, physical magazines
and manuals and stuff.
Like, my Final Fantasy VI manual,
like, I've read, like, all the stupid character backstories.
I mean, I was a kid at the time, right?
But, like, I've read through all the different spells.
Like, it's stuff like this that I guess you kind of forget
about being a kid, where, like, you're still, you know,
you're still, like, at some early stage in the game.
And, you know, you just want to, like,
read about spells that, like, maybe someday, terrible cast.
My Morrowind Player's Guide, the original one that I had,
the, like, cover fell off because I opened it
and closed it so many times.
And the spine is, like, damaged from being used too much.
It's awesome.
And then there's my Skyrim Player's Guide
that I bought out of, like, expected need,
which is still in absolutely perfect condition
because you do not need a Player's Guide for that game
at all because it's so handholdy.
Old school Morrowind, like, playing
the game without a Player's Guide,
you'll just miss a lot of stuff.
If you play the game with a Player's Guide,
it's literally just a way to find content.
And the way the Player's Guide is written is, like,
spoilers later.
They'll, like, bring you to the quest
and, like, make sure you can start it.
And then it turns into, like, if you need help.
And then there's, like, spoilers at the end.
So you can use it to find things instead of just, like,
walking you through the game.
So I'd use it to, like, lead me to where
I need to go to do something.
And then if I got actually stuck,
then I could check that.
But it was rather uncommon.
And you'd just use it to lead you through the game.
Yeah.
That was fun.
OK.
So there's a couple of fun things.
Yoda, the build.
So this was originally posted by f.org.
Yoda, the bill that would let you own and sell your devices
is reintroduced by Congress.
Wow.
All right.
This looks like a bipartisan effort.
Look at that.
Blake Farenthold and Jared Polis.
So Republican and Democratic just
reintroduced their You Own Devices Act,
a bill that aims to help you reclaim
some of your ownership rights in the software-enabled devices
that you buy.
What a friendly thing for the government to be doing.
If a computer program enables a device to operate,
Yoda would let you transfer ownership
of a copy of that computer program along with the device.
The law overrides any agreement to the contrary,
like an abusive EULA.
And you have the right to receive security or bug fixes
if someone who also had the right
to receive security and bug fixes
passes the device along to you.
That's very cool.
Very, very cool.
Um.
That's like, I'm very happy that I
have been aware of the idea that I
might have to buy blue rays or DVDs of certain movies
that I like.
Because for the longest time, everyone was like, oh,
it's just, it'll be on Netflix.
It's fine.
And Netflix is like dropping that super hard.
So yeah.
Twitch communities beta.
This was posted by CP Yarger on the forum.
And basically is a way for us to not be sort of on the,
sort of in the gray area of people
who are supposed to be streaming on Twitch.
Because we don't stream games here.
So basically.
Dedicated to things like cosplay, drawing, painting,
comedy, food, music, and us, I guess.
Yeah, cool.
They're saying users can set up their own communities
if they choose.
We've heard from our streamers and viewers
that they want the freedom to form specific groups.
So some of these categories, it initially
contains hundreds of them, build on top of gamers interests.
And some of them just straight up don't.
So inside communities will be a stream wall,
which displays live content from creators
who are choosing to broadcast to the community.
And broadcasters associating themselves with the community
could give them more exposure for their content,
allowing them to pick up more fans.
Cool, good for them.
What else we got here?
Something about Cody.
NASA built a chip to survive on Venus, something something,
800 degree Fahrenheit.
That's pretty neat.
Yeah.
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
Oh, Google's Super Bowl, Super Bowl, what is it?
Super Bowl Lee ad?
Lee, as in like L-I, like Roman numerals.
Oh, 51, is that right?
Yeah, Super Bowl 51 ad from Google.
Wreaked havoc on customers who already
own a Google Home system.
This was posted by Tech Dreamer on the forum.
That's pretty funny.
So Google's use of OK Google sends people's homes
into a frenzy.
So that's pretty funny, I guess.
And on that note, because we started the WAN show somewhat
on time, we're actually going to end it somewhat on time
so that I won't actually be late for my class.
Were you late last week?
I was late, but mostly because of the snow.
I left on time, but the snow was terrible.
The roads were awful.
I got stuck on the hill right there.
I had to push people into parking spots
when I went home last night, like more than one person.
I rolled backwards down it.
No, no, I got stuck on the hill and had
to go back down it carefully and take a run at it
and then hope that the light would go green
so I still had momentum as I was, yeah, it was really bad.
Anyway, oh, this.
No, not this week.
Not this week, got it.
Okay, so can we talk about the idea that we have?
Maybe let's just not.
Boiler would.
Yeah, I don't want Boiler to get upset.
What we will do though is we will remind y'all
that we do have an early access platform.
I was kind of thinking maybe I would talk about it
during the sponsors part of the show.
We could be our own sponsor for the show or something.
Anyway.
If you're not already a member of the Floatplane Club,
I just dropped a link in there where you guys can.
What's cool on there right now,
because people haven't seen my personal rig update yet,
which has been on there for a while,
but it's coming out on YouTube relatively soon.
Okay, so there's a lot of stuff on there right now.
In fact, you know what?
An easier way to do this would be
to just look at the calendar.
So stuff that is on Floatplane Club
but is not on YouTube yet.
Backlit Keyboards, under 25 bucks.
It's a 10-way roundup.
We've got Luke's personal rig update, code name Geodude.
We've got Holy Bleep, episode 15,
the most hipster server cabinet of all time.
It's pretty cool.
We've got the introduction to the Petabyte Project
where we show off the 100 drives
and go through all of our plans
for how that's gonna go down.
We've got our backplates on GPUs Worth It courtesy of Luke.
And we've got 40 gigabit networking under $100.
So that's everything that's in the lineup
for the next week or so.
You guys can check it all out at Floatplane Club.
And no, there's no Scrapyard Wars yet,
but I will commit to this.
We will do another season of Scrapyard Wars this year.
Right now, we, what?
That's not the hugest commitment.
That's a commitment.
Yeah.
Yeah, we will.
So right now, Colton, Chelsea, and Nick
are working on sponsorship for it
because it is time consuming and expensive,
but we will do it.
And thank you guys very much for watching.
We will see you next week.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
Watch this, watch this, Luke, watch this.
Oh, and it has audio.
Oh, dang.
Oh.
Oh.
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