Okay, here we go we are live this is a between two ferns the Linus tech tips edition
I have laser James with me here today and we're gonna talk about a whole bunch of different privacy news
Including the whole Facebook thing with mark the Zuck Zuckerberg
AMD Navi GPU being potentially amazing or not. Nothing to do with privacy. No and other non privacy news
yes, there could be a new successor to the Chromecast and
Competitor to Amazon fire stick. I'm actually stoked on this. Oh, okay, okay
and and mostly other
Privacy stuff but also the FTC says warranty void stickers like warranty voided for move stickers are BS
Which is awesome. That makes me really happy but stay tuned to see that and more on the land show
That is actually gonna have an intro today. We're doing the intro. Oh, no, it wasn't ready Colton. Oh
Oh spoiler alert so bad. So the answer that question was no
And we're dead
Okay
Be quiet which you already saw I think synergy 2 and
where space
awesome, you're gonna push this back which I call it works next time and
Go like that. There we go. Welcome to the white show
You might be able to tell we've had a little bit of change of scenery. We're actually in
pretty close to the same area, but I can't tell you why things have
obviously changed or for how long or if they'll go back or when they'll go back or any of that detail, so
Speculate as you will that's I think
So big buddy, let's go. I've been good. You've been away. I haven't seen you in like I have been we'll see what I was
Like I'm gonna be in office
Way more from now on I made it in one day this week
It was great. You were in the city like in the country all week. Yeah, you've been back from packs like that whole time
Yeah, oh, yeah. I thought I was like, yeah
He's back like what happened tell us about it. No, I got back on Sunday packs was good
I
Did there was really not a lot of hardware stuff there we used it
So like back when I first started working here, I asked line is my first time off request ever was to go to packs
Okay, and I was like just assume that I'm gonna ask for this time off for the rest of my career working with you
and then
Immediately the next year. He was like, hmm, you're gonna work it just at packs and I was like, okay
Well, that sounds like a pretty okay compromise. So I started making videos at packs about computer hardware now in retrospect
Good compromise. It was it was it was interesting. It was a fun thing to do. I really like packs
So I've been to like 15 of them. So working some of those was probably okay, but
There used to be an abundance of new interesting stuff at packs. It's usually peripherals. We get a lot of keyboards
We get a lot of mice get a lot of headsets that kind of stuff
But we'd sometimes get cases and a few other things
There's there was never like a graphics card or something
But there was always a lot of technology videos to make sure
That slowly started dwindling over the years the amount of potential technology videos at packs slowly started reducing
Constantly over time, but here's my question. Yes. So do you prefer to go as
Luke or as Luke from Linus media group, I I can't
Not go as Luke reminds me now
Yeah, I guess but like on your third or fourth time there when maybe people didn't know you're Luke from Linus media group
Oh, okay. So you're working there, but you weren't like super famous
So the that would be yeah, there was like one year in that gap
And that that was pretty good. It was funny because my dad always does this
So, okay a little bit of backstory when I go to packs
I was conceived at the Coursera booth. My dad's been to a million ease
Yeah, I know
So my dad brought me to packs as a like as a birthday present and he brought myself my best friend
And so we went from when I was like really young
and the first year that any amount of people knew me at all which was a very very small amount of people because I think
I had been in one way and show that's it. Oh, wow by the time I went to this packs
That year my dad would like look around for anyone that stared at me for too long
Okay, and then would go like get them and get them to come over
So, yeah, that was pretty cool but yeah
No, it's I still I really like meeting people. I think the reason why I would have probably preferred
The old one was because I'd liked packs more back in the day. Mmm, but that's not actually
That doesn't have anything to do. Yeah
well
that was my question ultimately was now that there's fewer videos to make do you get to enjoy the show more and it's kind of
like
The best of all worlds I would have if there was more stuff to check out
Show overall is just it's much bigger now
And when you become much bigger in terms of those types of shows that usually becomes a little bit more corporate a little bit more
Stale there's more rules now
Like back in the day a booth would have like a giveaway and everyone would swarm it and they'd like throw stuff out and it
Was crazy not you're not allowed throwing things probably someone got hurt
Which has to ruin the fun and everything and like I don't know it just it became bigger became more corporate
It's not as like niche and nerdy anymore
It's still really cool. It's a great event. I love going. I hope LTX never suffers from that
Remember how much stuff we threw last year. We almost got murked
Like serious, it was serious like looking out of the size of your eyes biting your finger like that
Like that was actually too bad
That was too far. Yeah the case toss. Yeah, we are in closing at this time
That's and that's what I was actually gonna say not to promote LTX too much
I don't even think we're supposed to on this show, but I'm doing it. Anyways, no, it was amazing the first year
We had it was so much fun
And I think there was some definite problems like the main stage was kind of under produced and there was a couple other
The sound was a big issue. The music was an issue Linus wore a toque and that really bothered me
That's like you're like the main stage is an issue the sound is big issue Linus wore clothing that I didn't appreciate
I mostly saw him when he was on stage and every time he came out and he had a toque on I was like
Who's this like a opening hip-hop act like who's this guy? And then it was Linus
I was like what a toque isn't part of your like he's like never worn that part of your uniform
Yeah, I hear you. I hear you
Yeah, I don't know. I'm really excited for the next one. It's gonna be bigger
We're gonna have more booths the main stage is gonna be better
Linus maybe won't wear a toque. I'm not gonna let him. The enclosed case toss is gonna be sweet
Cuz you can do bank shots and try to damage it more by getting some kind of angle
That's not gonna be my strategy. Okay, you know, you're gonna try to go for sidewall or the roof
I don't know. Hi, it's more like roof sidewall ground
You don't even have to I guess it's a distance challenge not a damaging challenge
Cuz if it was just trying to break the case you could just go completely laterally
I
Break the whole
Yes, I'm sure there'll be some kind of troll shots like that. Yeah, probably
Anyways, we should probably talk about actual news. I think we already introduced a bunch of topics, but we can start with probably
The most yeah expected topic of the week is that we learned this week that Zuckerberg drinks water like this
Yes, he's been working on this it's actually pretty good at this point
Yeah, yeah then you gotta do the smile meter thing
His smile meters so granular steps are tiny
It's so good, okay, so I'm gonna let me hold on I gotta be Linus here for a second
Which I'm not used to there we go. Facebook users aren't changing their privacy settings despite uproar
So this has been a pretty interesting. Wait a second who posted on the forum
Shorty 88 junior good job. We always forget we do. Thank you very much. I appreciate it
Yeah, so people aren't really leaving people aren't changing their privacy settings. Apparently people aren't even changing what type of things they share with the platform
So there's this like giant uproar
Or
Well, actually I think it kind of speaks to the whole issue because if you watch any of the Congress
I don't even know what you call that
Inspection of
Zuckerberg a lot of it was like
He keeps defaulting to be like, okay. We do tell them everything our terms of service is all here. Nobody reads it
It's garbage. We know that nobody reads it. So we also have these these little
Um dialog boxes that are the top of your newsfeed that tell you like hey in plain English
You can share this with the world or not. They do all these things to make it
Transparent what they're doing. It's just no one cares though. No one cares. I
Like by and large no one cares. So I think a surprisingly low amount of people actually care about their privacy
there is like and I bet you a
Abnormally high percentage of the audience here and I think an abnormally high percentage of tech people in general because I think those people actually
Understand better what's happening when they're putting their privacy out there
I think the average person sees it as like oh some mega corporation knows that I like
Thong sandals. Yeah, they're got nothing to hide
Maybe they'll sell me a few thong sandals and they don't understand that like
It's going further than that and your data is being picked apart further than that and Facebook is selling it to people that you don't
Necessarily know. Well, they don't sell the data. Well, it gets given away
Improperly. Yeah. Well, it still does. Yeah, it really gets for yeah
So I don't know and like the fact that a myriad of platforms get hacked every single year and people's data gets pulled out of
That not saying that happened to Facebook, but it happens to a huge amount people you can check out
I think it's have I been pwned calm. Yeah. Yeah, that's not specifically Facebook data
No, I'm saying I'm talking about privacy in jail. Yeah. Yeah. I actually said specifically I don't think it's happened to Facebook like at all
Correct, but there has been huge companies that have had leaks like that
And and those leaks could could make your Facebook vulnerable if you're using the same password across lots of sites
So what normally happens is like LinkedIn got hacked
so the darkwebs has your your password for LinkedIn that gets bought by someone else who takes that password and tries it in a
Bunch of other sites like your email your bank Facebook and if you're the type of person has the same password everything
You might be compromised on lots of sites that never actually got hacked themselves
Yeah
it's it's and like
What I was more getting to is just the idea that people don't understand how their data can spread
And like not just on Facebook, I mean in terms of using the internet as a whole non tech people don't necessarily understand how like
Putting their data in some place or putting the credit card information in some place can result in it getting to other places
But it kind of leads into the regulation discussion here because there's there's yes, there's a lot of talk
About regulating Facebook and there's kind of three different ways that that could go
The first is what Facebook would probably like which is just to self-regulate
To self-regulate. Yeah, that seems more and more like everyone's it seems more and more that it's like maybe less likely
To me anyway, because there's to happen. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, because there's this awesome article. It's been written by Zainab
What's her last name? She's that?
Security researcher. I'm really bad with names especially last names. So she's awesome
She wrote this kind of article that blew up about like 14 years of Facebook's apology to her Oh
Since the beginning they've been yeah, like a lot of people gave
props to Zuckerberg for kind of taking ownership of what has happened at Facebook and
Apologizing for it and not like deflecting or saying mistakes were made
But at the same time he's been doing that for like a decade and a half. So at some point it's like
Stop stop letting him screw up so much. Yeah, so option one Facebook self-regulates
Option two they regulate the entire industry
That would be really stifling to innovation
yeah, really if you've ever worked at a company that was undergoing some kind of like
You know, we're gonna implement compliance for HIPAA, which is like a health
health care
Security thing that stuff is intense and drains company resources more than you could ever imagine unless you've actually gone through it yourself
It's crazy and there's a time what ton like that. So if there was something like that for the social media industry
You can basically guarantee yourself that there would be no new upstarts
like that's hard enough to
To make a new social network is hard enough given that network effects are such an important part of it
Like you need to have a bunch of users before it's useful to people if you're gonna have this other layer of compliance
You're basically solidifying
Facebook's position and all incumbents positions. So that's yeah, I don't I don't think you're guaranteeing that there will be no challenges
but I
Haven't seen even without this. I haven't seen very many successful challenges to Facebook at all
Anyways, Google Plus completely failed
And anyone that really tries just gets bought and consumed anyways
Well, that's what was funny when that one senator was like, who's your biggest competitor?
It's like you don't understand network economies because but by virtue of way they the way they work. There are no competitors
It's like it's a win-win or take all such a situation. We're like everyone's on this platform
Therefore everyone's using this platform and you can't split them. There could never be half people here and half there
Yeah with completely overlapping functions. It doesn't work that way
option three for regulation would be
If Facebook itself just has a like dedicated third-party or agency that only regulates Facebook like some kind of steward of the data
To me that's like the most likely situation
but this one too enshrines Facebook's current market position because
If it's the case that Facebook has so much data about you and they regulate such that
That data can never leave Facebook
Then no one else has no upstarts have access to that data in the way that
The developers on the Facebook platform did in the past and that's how Cambridge Analytica came to get the big data that leaked anyway
So if no one has access to that then they're just sitting on this goldmine of data that no one can compete with
So you're kind of in a pickle on you either way
So I'm gonna make a straw poll here
Which is how should Facebook read be regulated or not?
You need four bro
Yeah, it self-expands. Oh
Watch this. Oh, huh, dude. It self regulates. Wait. Oh, I think I have to fill this one out maybe and then hit enter
Uh, not really self-regulated third. There we go. Nice. We're
Like that but like dedicated like they only regulate Facebook
Can't type on this keyboard reason probably because it's way over there. It's just a really weird one, you know, like it's this QWERTY layout
I'm used to Dvorak. I know it's been around since the 1870s, but whatever
Okay, so we have not regulated self-regulated third-party regulations specifically for Facebook and government wide-spanning
Right, you're gonna put a troll on sir. No donkey balls
Come on nope last week it was donkey balls
We've been regulated
Internally self-regulated. Okay. So check that straw poll out hit us with the feedback. I want to see what you guys think. I
Kind of have my own opinion, but who do you have a
While we wait for that, let's fantasize about some kind of future epic social network startup
that's all blockchain based where every individual's data is completely owned by them is on a blockchain so that the entire internet is modular so
that you can switch from one social network to another and bring your data with you and release to each social network exactly what you
Want that would be the most beneficial to new innovation because you could start up your own social network and people could come to it
And be like, here's all the data and here's all the connections
Here's all the people I know and suddenly you'd have like this really thick market and strong network effects right away
Someone said it's called steam it. Wow. I don't like that platform. But I is that how that actually works
I know that platform is blockchain based but is it like what you're describing? I don't think so
I have no idea. But what I have heard is that all the current social like blockchain based social media
Projects are junk. Yeah, I heard it on a podcast. I don't actually know I haven't tried it myself
Pied Piper. I
Wouldn't put steam in my title sounds like steaming pile, you know, it's like it's like stee
MIT or something like that. I don't remember exactly how it works. I'm gonna check in on this straw poll. Actually. Let's see
Okay, not a meaningful
split at all, really
donkey
Okay, please okay that plays into what we were saying earlier where it's like honestly most people don't really care
And even in our honor, they just don't know. Well, that's fair
It's a pretty should have had a like I don't know and then I don't care that should have been that's donkey
I guess but you together but yeah, that's the problem is that they're both together. So right now. All right, I'm not on the screen
Right now we're looking at 25% for third-party regulation specifically for Facebook. I'm kind of surprised by that. Um
Do tell I'm just kind of surprised by that because in that situation you're putting a weight on
Facebook which I don't think anyone's gonna care about but you're putting a weight on Facebook. So that opens the door to more other
platforms but then those other platforms are probably gonna have the same problem and then do you at that point once they're big
Yeah, take the regulation specifically for Facebook and then push it on them. Hmm or like
so do you just let people run rampant with other people's data at the beginning and then go like
You shouldn't have done that but we didn't tell you not to so it's okay, but now you have to stop
Yeah, it kind of sounds like you need to have a hybrid approach where there are certain ground rules for everybody to begin with
All right, but there already is existing laws
But you also have to consider
User's choices right not like because this is happening
It's just there's a societal shift where people are prioritizing and caring more about this kind of thing, right?
So if a new upstart comes knocking on your door asking you to become a user you're more likely to ask like well
What kind of data like what are you guys doing? What do you want for me? Yeah, so in that climate then like
Maybe a light touch regulation is enough
I don't know and then people the the next highest category that wasn't donkey was government-wide
Spanning regulation, which I'm not super surprised was up there not regulated. I'm honestly pretty surprised that that even got 13%
But then I guess there are well, those are the people who know how to set the permissions the way they yeah
Well, it's like it's going fine. Just read the TOS
Yeah, people who are gonna actually like manage it properly themselves
Which unfortunately isn't everybody which is I guess the problem I have with it cuz like my mom is not gonna understand what to do
Hi, mom, she's probably watching but like I'm not saying that
They're nodding. Yeah. Yeah, like it's it's
My mom's actually surprisingly good with some things
But she can also somehow manage to send emails with her text messaging program without any of us being able to figure out how for
like months at a time
like it's it's there's there's people that have a special touch with technology and there's people that when they use it it falls apart magically
And like as far as I can tell it has nothing to do with being her fault. But anyways, I love a man touch
But like I don't know there's people that are super in the know in a platform and there's people that aren't and it varies
I took my socks off right before the show, but now I want them back on
My feet got cold. Oh my goodness. You're having cold feet
Yeah, but this regulation platform idea. Yeah change my mind
If we could get like four more people to vote for donkey
That would be great because then it would be in first place and then we can just be done with this draw pull
But I think we're probably done with this topic in general. Meanwhile, AMD Navi GPUs. Yeah rumor mill time
Let's uh, let's get away from don't come through this way go away, please. Thank you
Let's jump down to AMD Navi Navi is the next generation of architecture from AMD GPUs
and it is a seven nanometer architecture and the rumor these days is that
It's not gonna
It's not going to be the source of
the next wave of enthusiast cards
It's not going to be the the next Vega. In fact, it's gonna be a
What they call the mainstream
Lineup, which are mainstream tier which right now is the rx 580s those guys also. Thank you Ryujin 2013 on the forums
Yeah
So what they're saying is that when these cards launch in 2019
They're gonna have a comparable performance to a GTX 1080
Which came out in the end of May basically June 2016
But it'll cost about 250 bucks
Which is nice
Well, because my 1080 right now is more than that MSRP 250 bucks
Who knows what it'll actually cost fair mining stuff is going down a lot because bitcoin's super down right now
Well, it's going up in the last day or two. Oh has it? Yes. Oh, no, it's coming back. Yes. It's back baby back again
Oh
Oh dear
And then with new cards that are high performance for lower dollar value
It might become more profitable blah blah blah blah blah blah
So we'll see but yeah MSRP has not been a realistic thing for actually quite a long time
Especially on the AMD side we've seen
accidental artificial whatever
Uh spawned from bitcoin inflation, whatever you want on GPUs for quite a long time
Even well before it was identified as being a bitcoin mining problem
Uh, we had inflation and graphics card prices all the way from back to the launch of these cards
Which was well before mining bitcoin was like super trendy as a launch of the GTX. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah
I thought when I first read that and I I read that they were aiming Navi at at this particular market segment
I thought are they doing that like to satisfy shareholders? Is it just more cost effective and they're gonna it's a bigger addressable market because
Stop at max. You're doing that thing. You said you're gonna just get out of here
All right
There's just more people who have the money to buy a cheaper but like still good
Like well 250 is a really nice price point for a graphics card around 300 bucks is fairly reasonable for a
Quite a large amount of people for a graphics card. Yeah, 250 bucks is pretty good still if you can like
PCs aren't gonna get here realistically
But if you like at least not in the short term, but 300 bucks in like 2013 was like the golden
I remember there was articles about it all over the place where like
$300 for a relatively high ticket item was really good for consumers because a lot of people could gather that much money
in a reasonable amount of saving time to buy something this should be comparatively cheaper than because with inflation everything with inflation and it's
$250. Yeah, but it isn't the full component for a computer, but it's a nice upgrade but blah blah blah blah
It goes all over. So it's a sound business. It's a good price if they're just doing this strategically
That would make sense. But then I learned that actually
History is repeating itself here because this is a new what they call manufacturing node. This is a 7 nanometer
Part the lithography that is they can't get the yields on all their wafers
At a at a rate or a quantity that makes a lot of sense
Economically for them. So that was really convoluted
Let me just say what I actually have written down from a manufacturing point of view
It is not feasible to produce a large GPU like a 1080 like a big one or a Vega on a brand new
on a brand new cutting edge process like 7 nanometer early in the nodes lifecycle because it's just a new technology and they haven't ironed out
All the manufacturing kinks yet. So once they do it's conceivable that in the future
Maybe in 2021 that they could use the 7 nanometer lithography to make bigger cards
Yeah
Makes sense the more, you know
hooray
It's it's I don't know. This is good
For a lot of reasons AMD needs to keep doing. Well, they're doing quite well right now
One interesting observation that I had at PAX. We're talking about PAX earlier on in the show Intel did not have a booth there
That was weird Intel's had a booth at PAX like every PAX as far as I know for the last five or six years
Nvidia wasn't there. That's not super surprising. They used to be at every PAX then they started dwindling off
But okay, no Intel no Nvidia a soos booth was much smaller than normal
AMD had a fairly big booth that was popping the whole it was full there was cues
They had they had VR setups, but there was VR setups
Multiple other places on the show that didn't have a line but the line at AMD was full all the time
It was an interesting experience to see that the community has kind of opened up to AMD as a whole if you look back into
like
2014 they were actually the very much so underdog that like the underground people were like, yeah
I'm gonna buy one of these even though like
You know, maybe doesn't make a ton of sense. I'm gonna get it. Anyway, my money is just a donation name
Yeah, basically, but now it's actually a lot more logical to go for their stuff, which is really cool
And it's it's really cool to see them coming back
it was a pretty awesome moment to see their booth packed at PAX yeah, because
Even at PAX West which was I guess in the very beginning of September
2017
The AMD booth was not that packed
So you're saying now that there hasn't even been that long now that there's no competition that their booth is popping
Well, it helped I guess
And like they did a much better job with their booth which in a way
Kind of sort of not really but kind of indirectly maybe there's a lot of caveats there
Water not like Zuckerberg. You gotta work on continue. Oh
He's got it. He's got
Sorry, I'll ignore it. I'll know it
It kind of shows success in the company
They have the money to flaunt at an event spending way too much money on a ridiculously small
Roi of having a booth as a shareholder that angers me
Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense
It's if you look at the ROI of a booth
You're actually not showing to that many people and it costs a ludicrous amount of money
You're probably gonna end up giving a whole bunch of product away
You're probably gonna have to pay a bunch of staff like it's a really expensive thing to do
But it's it's to cater to you super fans and the ROI is hard to describe but it reaches
And that's ready man
it is running huge in this space and
You're you're making yourself a constant part of the conversation and you're trying to spread that ROI beyond just that event
That's kind of the idea. So I don't know it was really interesting to see that
I'm very happy about AMD's fairly recent success
And I hope they keep going and I hope this is part of it because if you can get 1080 performance off a 250 dollar
Card that breaches people into a way higher level of gaming
Yeah, but this is three years after the fact though like a year from now
You're gonna have a 1080
Yeah, which is like and we'll have to see like if mining does crash super hard and people start selling mining cards for dirt cheap
Then it might not matter because you might be able to get 1080s for around that price
Anyways, they would just might be kind of sketchy
They're just the most tired cards
Or you might get like
You turn your computer off it just falls apart because it's like I've been running for so long the dust was holding me together
Or you might get 1080 TI's for that price or whatever else right? Who knows?
But if mining does stay up there and the price of this does inflate that might still even be helpful. Who knows?
She's just trolling you man. She's trolling me
There's a door that's open here for the people who don't know. Yeah max is loitering
We like have to have the door open because if I go to close the door
Oh, I can't there's a sandbag in the way
But if I go to close the door, it will it will block the camera
Well, not entirely actually you just have to look through like a fire rated window
I would like to end the show that way actually by closing the door. Yeah, I'll crawl under there remove the sound back
Bye. Bye. Okay. Okay. I'm down. Wait. Wait till the end of the show. That's gonna be Easter egg. It's gonna happen
Yeah, so anyways, there's a weird a bunch of documentation showed up. This is the next topic
Okay, a bunch of documentation showed up
At a random I mean to to our ears or eyes
Anyway, people who aren't in the know and these things a random seeming
Manufacturer in China has the documentation that describes like specs out this new mysterious
Google branded dongle, which is like a 4k
Android TV dongle
as you can see, yeah, and
Some people might think this is boring because they're like, yeah, okay, it's it's a Roku or it's an Amazon
Yeah, I was wondering why you care so I'll tell you why I care so much. I
Have a Chromecast at home. Okay, and I also have a Google home
Okay, those things work together
they're attached to my TV, which is a smart TV the smart TV has a remote and
I use that remote and that smart TV to use apps like YouTube a lot
the problem is that
Google home and
casting by voice is
incompatible with
My remote when I cast if I'm like Google play the latest Linus tech tips video on the TV and it plays it. I
can't then grab my remote and hit next video and start scrolling around and stuff like that because my smart TVs
YouTube app is a different app than the app that gets used when I cast things by voice
I basically have two YouTube that puts on my TV
With this you're gonna be able to do that just like when you have a Amazon fire TV stick
They actually the microphone the excuse me. The remote is a microphone you can talk into it
This remote is the same deal. It has a dedicated Google assistant button on it. So this is the remote he's talking about, by the way
And presumably I'm gonna be able to say
Goog star play this video on I don't want a hot word people
I know I was gonna say you guys got to appreciate that. He didn't include the first word
Yes, when he's paying attention play the latest video
I'll be able to watch that video and then I'll be able to just use my remote and
Then back and forth and that is gonna be suck
That's huge for me. Hey Google play the hipster song with the whistling. I
Had to I'm sorry continue
Hey, you don't want to leave those Alexa play the hipster song with the whistling people out. It's not gonna work though
Because I think that's a fairly specific
Keyword for Google play know that that are sorry key phrase
Oh the hipster song with the whistling because they put that in an ad
And I tried a whole bunch of other descriptions for songs that I thought were pretty good. It didn't work at all
Oh, yeah, did you try the one the Russian guy that goes?
Oh, does that work? Yes, we've done it even on wanjo before. Oh, that's oh, yeah. Yeah, it's awesome. Okay, sweet
That's cool. I'm surprised that works actually
That's a great song, you know the song it's called like seventh element by Vetus get out I
Think that's bait. That was my tooth. That's why I want so people in Chad are saying that it's like basically a shield TV
but in a small compact dongle, but I think it does a little bit less when
And plus the price point those things are over 200 bucks. Oh, yeah
So this is probably gonna be way cheaper the shield will also be able to like cast games to your TV
Which is like you're yeah, you're in a little bit different of a of a range there
The shield also has a voice controllable remote and easiest way to think about it is gonna be there are already Android TV
Boxes, it's just gonna be that with a Google Assistant integration and voice remote
people in chat
I'm guessing that the price point will be like what 120 130 bucks. Is that how much a fire TV stick is?
Let me search the American internets. Yeah, where those things exist. Oh my
Well, you do that can't fire truck no they know it from last tech tips
What did you guys think about the fire pole video good god, it's $30 fire TV stick with Alexa voice remote 30 bucks
That's really cheap. Even the 4k one is only 50 a 4k Chromecast is like 70 us
A 4k Chromecast is like 70 u.s. Isn't it? Oh, hold on they Google some more do it do it
You can get a Chromecast on Amazon now, can't you wasn't that the whole thing that they argued about before
Can you do it now though? Cuz I know they're arguing about it, but I don't know if it's like already an option
Oh that got pretty settled it autofilled. I don't see it. I see a shield they selling it Nvidia shields for
Two hundred dollars comes as a gamepad though. Yeah, because you can play Android games on it
Some of them I guess
Yeah, I'm totally gonna sell my Chromecast and get one of these dongles if it comes out
They're probably gonna announce it at IO is in a month. It's in May Google IO. It's gonna be sweet. How do you work on this?
Heck yeah. Yeah. Okay. I thought so so while you're looking that up. I'm gonna do a little float plane moment 70 bucks
I have to 70. Okay. Okay, so it is a little bit more expensive
Flow plane it has awesome stuff on it. Kyle from bitwit currently has cool. Cooler is cool
What happens if we if we remove the fans? It's a be quiet cooler. That should be a pretty interesting video
Also, he has a 32 by 9 gaming setup that he wants to show off in a different video Linus tech tips has a wearable
kos
kos
emerged keyboard and mouse
It is a cow
I
Like that was by accident, but I'm kind of down with it
It's so can you tell me a tiny amount but what this thing actually is?
So it's these rings that you wear on your fingers. Yeah, if you lay your hand on a table, okay, it's a mouse
If you don't and you just put your wrist on the edge of a table and you tap on a table
It's a keyboard and it can know based on like if you stretch your finger or whatever. It's not
Spatial it's not like A's over here and P's over here. Okay, you actually have to learn a bunch of gestures like it's
Like that's a that's n. Oh
Yeah, okay, I learned it all can you type properly that way I can type how fast I can survive
I probably dial up. Okay. Okay, that's cool though. I don't it's sweet
I like it a lot and it's good at what it's doing. Like it doesn't register. I'm not gonna give away the video
No, yeah, don't go any further. Perfect. There's also
the continuation of the Apple fiasco with the iMac Pro
Buying a video card without getting screwed and some other cool stuff like the history of the motherboard. I haven't seen that video
I'm going to watch that video
because I grew up with these super janky weird motherboard setups and I grew up with like my dad's computer where
Basically to build the computer you had to have a whole bunch of add-in cards
Because the motherboard was so bare and it didn't have like like you didn't have onboard Nick
Okay, you didn't have onboard LAN for Ethernet connection
So you had to have a Nick card in order to have connection
I remember when we bought our first computer my mom like I remember being in the shop when we were buying it and
it was like four hours and
We like bought a sound card. Yeah, like that's just totally integrated didn't have audio on board probably
Yeah, so like that I'm 100% certain that that is gonna be a sick video
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Kitties. Yeah. Well, you can get a year of flow plane for a single crypto kitty. What is a crypto kitty?
What you don't know what crypto kitties is?
It's not even worth describing. It's like come and gone. This is like a four-month-old. Is it like a mean it's like a it's like a
Ethereum based
Game where you trade digital kitties. I
Didn't I didn't watch it go are you telling me to suck off I just
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There we go, I think we've completed our ritual we didn't get to watch that but I think we're in sync
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I noticed when mine was like going down that yours was going down at the same time and stuff and I was like
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Boom the beginning of the end of passwords. Yes, so there could be a future
Soon where you very?
Very seldom enter a password which would be dope because passwords suck
So what happened is there's this there's this new security standard called
Web often like authentication. Yeah the end. That's so stupid. It's weird. Thanks guys
I thought it was a typo at first but you know, I was like, oh it appears more than once
Oh, you didn't account for people saying this out loud. Okay, whoa
Um web often has one near-final approval from the World Wide Web Consortium, which is the governing body for these kinds of standards
so what this is is
On your phone you're unlocking your phone with face ID or with your fingerprint all the time, right?
but you don't do that when you go to
Facebook.com or basically any other website all recipes for them you enter in just a password and
Setting up a face biometric
A
Password on all different websites would take a long time
You'd have to not only would they have to implement that that technology?
But then you'd have to like do your all those different finger taps on every different finger for every website and that'd be really annoying
so what this is is it's an API and
application programming interface that all the different websites will
Will hook into and then you only have to set up your biometric
passwords
Once and then the whole web can rely on them, which is gonna be BA
So for hackers, all you really need to do is break one system. Yeah, then you get all of them. Yeah
Sick, I might be wrong
But this is how I think it works because the I had to do some some digging beyond
Just what was found on the forum the forum post by the way was posted by Matthew Valencia. Thank you very much
Thank you, Matt
You sound Italian
But Valencia, that's Spanish sounding to me. I'm really bad
You're probably totally right it could be
Yeah, I don't know it's it sounds like it could be cool
It sounds like it could be a single point of failure. It just depends on I guess how they exactly
Implement it you can require something
Like a yubi key, which I think is actually pretty cool
so if they if they add
Power to the user in terms of like oh, I'm okay with
Fairly weak authentication and you want to go that route. That's fine. I don't care if someone doesn't really care about their accounts
That's okay. If you have one password for everything and you think that's okay, that's fine
as long as it's in your control to
Amplify that and have more security. Well, if you want to go to like having two factors still like a yubi key
And something else that could be pretty cool
Well, you kind of already have a single point of failure
Like if someone were to get my phone
Which they would unlock with a fingerprint or if they were to get my laptop and unlock with a password
Then I have all those auto complete setup. So they kind of have everything anyway, see but then that's that's
An in your control thing. Yes mine doesn't if someone got my phone. Yeah, they have access to
Not very much. I don't have access to my email, which is pretty bad
And I guess they would have act but they don't have access to like my password trove and nothing autocompletes
Mm-hmm, but they would have my email so they could probably reset most things
But like yeah, but even if even if you're the kind of person who like doesn't care about things
Wouldn't those like how are they gonna get a hold of your of your biometric information? Isn't that just hashed? Isn't it? Totally?
Yeah, but okay so the there's there's different types of
Hacking so you could find a vulnerability in the system that no longer requires you to use those
Sure. Yeah. Okay, right things. Yeah, it's and and someone will probably find one of those
Okay, whether it ends up on zero day and get solved or whether it gets sold or what happens with it. Who knows?
and having
One central system if it's open source
And you have a whole bunch of huge companies working on making sure that it stays secure could be really awesome and could like
Really lock things down
One thing that's awesome about this is if you're not even that savvy or serious about your privacy
You're more protected with this because you can't be phished
with this because
your password is like a secret that you know and
Just because no one else knows it doesn't mean that they can't get it just by asking you what it is
Which is what phishing is
You know you get my wife actually got an SMS recently that was like your your telco
Has given you a refund or your ISP is giving you a refund of a hundred and fourteen dollars and sixty one cents click through
You click through and it's got tiles for each of the common banks in canada
Totally branded looks totally professional looks awesome
And you just you click on that and it's like you enter your banking credentials and then boom they have everything if she didn't explicitly
know like
This ISP never texts me. They never text me and they have no reason to give me a refund
But like how tempting is that like oh free money free money? Yeah, anything's possible. That's mess
Log in people get phished all the time. So you can't get phished with this
You still totally could because if say it would just be done in a different way because you would have to have it
Capture your authentication, I guess so because you're saying this is a general API for everyone, right? So they would be
So you would go to the phishing site and it would be like scan your fingerprint and you'd be like click
scan your fingerprint and you'd be like click
when you have to when you get like it on android or ios when you get a
A permission prompt that was like share your fingerprint with this website and you'd be like, that's weird
I already did that and then even if you did say yes to that they'd scan your fingerprint
It would just be once which may not be enough to like totally get see but it may not be enough
I don't know. It's it still might work its potential
You could also algorithm it out to like angle it slightly to try to make it slightly different. Um, and honestly
I would honestly think most people would go like oh, yeah, go away
To any prompt that's like do you want to share this with the website could be? Um, it's it's still possible
There's there's phishing attempts that succeed that are super garbage all the time
Uh, and there's actually some people who intentionally make things like phishing
attempts
That are really bad
Because they don't want to get savvy people
Oh
So they actually weed out savvy people by making it
Fairly, obviously fake so if someone does fall for it, they can probably get way more from them. That's amazing. They're really gullible
Yeah, there's there's it's amazing
The the world of of people trying to benefit off of other people
Uh is vast and well that actually is a pretty good segue into another thing that happened which is this
Ransomware that asks. Yeah a pub g get this ransomware
It's like your data is encrypted. The only way to get it back is to play this video game
Like we're not affiliated just play because it's awesome or if you don't want to do that just enter the password
That's actually written right here on the screen. So it's just like a just like a joke
I don't know. Maybe someone just wanted to play it. Maybe it's a viral marketing campaign
Campaign it's obviously like bad and stuff viral. It's a viral. It's a virus
It's a viral marketing campaign. That's pretty good. I like that. I didn't pick up on that right away. That is good at first
Um, it's it's obviously like bad and stuff, but I think it's hilarious. I I think this is very funny
Um, just play pubg for one hour and apparently you don't even have to you just launch the game at all
It just that's what happens. Yeah, when you when you launch it and the or restore code is and you can just type that in
I think it's I think it's funny. Um,
It's it's I mean i'm not condoning it
It's not a good thing all that kind of stuff, but I just I think it's hilarious
I was like kind of hoping it was going to happen to me just because like well, I guess I gotta play pubg
But honey our data
Exactly luke it's date night ignore that code. I have to say that I have to save the pictures
Although all the family pictures are all super important. Yes, family
pictures
My family videos
My family vr
Videos. Yes, of course
So apparently warranty sticker stickers that say if you remove the sticker your buoyancy your buoyancy is worn
You know what i'm talking about this is posted by steve
Grabowski on the forum and the previous topic was posted by
No one
Hey grabowski, thanks for the topic. Yes warranty void if removed that sticker apparently is bullshit and illegal
So the ftc is cracking down
They've sent
Letters to six major companies. They haven't said who these companies are but they're big and they're in the sectors of
Their their car manufacturers of cars
They are
Did I even write it down video? Yeah, here we go automobiles cellular devices and video game systems
Makers like i'm pretty sure they're big companies like so yeah. Yeah, so
They've sent warning letters to these companies writing that statements that consumers must use specified parts or service providers
to keep their warranties
Is actually illegal and it has been since 1975
And we've kind of always sort of known this
To be completely honest. I didn't okay. Okay. Um, but it's it's been so
Okay, maybe I shouldn't say we have but like a lot of people have been on this side and kind of known this for a long
Time but that being said because there hasn't been a big public statement
That's super easy to point out like this there is you can point out like really old laws and whatever but most companies just act
On the idea that it that it is enforceable. So we'll make it a nightmare
To actually get your stuff repaired to the point where it's not worth it
I think even if even if the case was that like
You know, i'm gonna take the sticker off and there's nothing the company can do and they're gonna have to uh,
Honor the warranty anyway
Just the fact that they have the sticker on there and are deterring a large part of the population
Even that is getting cracked down on right, which is good because that sticker like you're right deters a huge percentage of population
Basically, almost everyone and then uh, even if it doesn't like I love breaking those stickers
Uh, if I did want a warranty repair for something that I broke the sticker on
It would be a nightmare and probably not worth my time and it would probably never end up happening and to get it fixed
I'd probably have to take them to court which is not going to be worth it. So this being enacted is awesome
I love it. It's great. This is good. One quote that I like here is from
Thomas b paul acting director of the ftt ftc's bureau of consumer protection
He said provision provisions that tie warranty coverage to the use of particular products or services harm
Both consumers who pay more for them as well as the small businesses who offer competing products and services
You know like if there's a say a max store that's not max certified but the people there
Yeah, they know how to fix them. Um, those people should be able to start businesses and fix up these computers. Yeah
I completely agree the right to repair, you know, let's not waste as much stuff
Sounds good to me
Home pod
Home pod. No, I mean like let's do that. I know let's do it. I'm down
Uh, this is this is interesting. Apple hasn't been what's the last thing that apple released that was a new product?
Airpods
Okay. Yeah. No, you got me immediately. Well that goes out the window
Um, I was thinking like their their watch hasn't done very well their home pod now hasn't done very well
But you're right air pods have done great. But they're okay. They are still the watches the watch gain steamed
Has gained game steam it has yeah. Yeah. Okay. Everyone knows it's the best smart watch out there
I mean, it's not saying a lot. Okay, but do people care about yeah, exactly do people care about smart watches?
No, no, the category is is still yeah, pretty niche
So here's the story with the home pods. Um
When they was when the pre-orders went out that weekend
The the sales of like the pre-orders there for the home pod accounted for 73 percent of all smart speaker sales that weekend
And for the first month, I believe it was
10 percent
of the market
basically the market share of home pod relative to other smart speakers like the
Amazon echo and google home is abysmal and shrinking had a depressing rate
If at first it looked like the home pod might be a hit pre-orders were strong in the last week of january
It grabbed about a third of the u.s. Smart smart speaker market in unit sales
But by the time home pod arrived in stores sales were tanking during the first 10 weeks
During the first 10 weeks. They had 10 of the smart speaker market
But three weeks after launch sales slipped to about four percent
That it didn't help that they missed the entire holiday season and that when they did ship they were missing
Two critical features that they're gonna have to wait for apple airplay 2 before they have which is going to be like july or something
All that notwithstanding, uh, the end result here is that apple has actually slashed the quantity that they're ordering from their suppliers now
from 500 000 units to 200 000 units
And the people who are working like anecdotally, I guess the yeah employees at apple stores are saying that like yeah
We sell like 10 of these a day like they're not really flying off the shelf
Which is interesting because that at quite a few stores 10 a day would be pretty good. So I don't know what yeah
Who said that because if that was at pacific center like in vancouver, it's like
Damn, yeah, we sell like 10 iphones a day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But uh, yeah and like
Yeah, there's a little apple section of the local best pie and like if they sold 10 home hod today, they'd be so stoked
So back up we're doing amazing. These are records collars and ties would be undone like sleeves would be rolled
People are getting trampled
So it really like I don't know if they have 10 customers a day at that apple thing they're stoked
So like it depends on the scale. Um
Of where you're dealing with but essentially they're not selling very well. So there's a rumor here. I believe it's just a rumor
I mean, it's definitely just a rumor. I just don't know how how like authoritative that rumor is
But yeah, people are saying that apple could be considering making a smaller home pod
I guess it would be cheaper
Because I mean it's a pretty
competitive market
This isn't a bluetooth speaker, but bluetooth speakers are totally
totally commodity by now and
The thing with smart speakers is apple is the only one that's not decoupled from their own proprietary device
Like you can get sonos to have or you will be soon sonos to have google assistant in them
Yeah, you can get sonos to have alexa in them. There's some devices that have amazon
Alexa as well as google assistant in them. Oh, I actually didn't know
Sonos is going to be like that soon and I believe there's a company that
I think it's called the wand and it's on its way here that does that how cool is that to address alexa and then address
I said it to dress her and then address google home like for whatever you want like that's awesome
Anyway, um, here's a few reasons why I don't think it's true that apple is making a smaller home pod
And maybe i'll be wrong
But I don't think it makes very much sense because when you make a speaker that's cheaper like if you think about the echo
And the echo dot everything with the google home and the google home mini the thing that makes it cheaper and smaller
Is that they've compromised on sound quality?
Like yeah, the google home mini doesn't have the speakers that the bigger one does
But with the home pod, that's the only thing that the home pod does. Well is the sound quality
So if they got rid of the sound quality, all you'd have left is all the reasons why home pod isn't doing well
You'd have a crappy assistant that doesn't do that much stuff
Yeah, so why would you buy that you wouldn't so it doesn't make any sense
I I think
If they are doing that, uh, I think it would speak to the like post
Steve jobs apple and like I don't know if they are doing that and if they're not I think that would make more sense
so i'm not saying this is necessarily what's happening, but
Old apple with steve jobs not old old apple without him or older apple with him
I mean like the the like third one, uh, not the fourth one that we're currently in. Um,
They would have demanded
No, this is the right way to do it if they make something they would have been like no
this is what people should have and people will learn that we're right eventually or
Whatever and everything that they would make would make tons of money and make sense and even if it didn't sell a huge amount
The first time they made it they would just make another one which is a linear improvement
Well, move on from there. I think you can categorize that by eras and attribute to steve jobs
But I think a lot of it is more attributed to just the maturation of the mark that particular market category and now
there's lots of different iphones because
The smartphone market is just way more mature in terms of speakers though
Like their their market strategy now is like we're a hardware company whose principal product the smartphone is under attack at all sides
And being commoditized so what we're going to do instead because we can't get more iphone
Customers is we're just going to get more money from our existing customers through all these kind of uh ancillary
Products like air pods and the home pod. So we're going to make a speaker. That's really good and we're going to get another
350 dollars from each of our existing customers. That's wicked. I don't think they're going to compromise on that
I don't think they're going to say
You know what instead of getting 350 from our customers. We're going to get
150 with this like weak ass home pod. Yeah, because then who's going to get the expensive one
It makes a lot more sense to me for them to spend their resources on
Making the home pod and the home pod
That already exists more attractive. Why don't they just make it, you know, focus on the ecosystem focus on the
Integration with more smart home stuff makes siri better makes siri better if you can at this point
Yeah, and that's gonna affect all your other products as well. I think focusing on the ecosystem for them is
Is what they're gonna do if that's consistent with their strategy that they're using today. I think this rumor is bunk
I think the first person
to make a
Very personalized assistant is gonna start winning me over pretty fast
When it's like actual conversational. Oh, yeah, that would when it's scarlet your hands inch like
Like you mean from is that is that her? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen uh, why him sa
Why him yeah, yeah with that it's a james wrinkle movie. No, I haven't. Yeah. Yeah, there's a uh,
There's a virtual assistant in that movie. That's totally totally colloquial like it fights with you and stuff
Yeah, perfect. Yeah, like I I'm perfect. No, seriously, though. Like I I want it to be like you're late
Wake up. Yeah. Yeah. And then when i'm like, no, I want to get up
And like it because it gets used to the fact that I have a hard time waking up so it becomes a little bit more aggressive
So it tries to get me up. Like I I want one that learns who I am. I would honestly
Mostly prefer that it was local and didn't have to call back to outside servers and would just use my own stuff
So if someone makes one of those I'll spend exorbitant amounts of money and i'll make that work if it's like good
But they won't so that's okay. Um, but yeah, well that'll happen eventually
Come on it's got it. I mean if we're talking like super long term but yeah, what do you mean this isn't this is 10 years
10 years until you have a local one that's actually as good as the other ones
I'm talking. Yeah, i'm talking like okay
Conversational will definitely happen. Yeah, and i'm but knowing about you and dealing with you
The only data they need for that is data from you. So why wouldn't that be local?
Because they want all of it though
I got confused for a second, but it's because they want all of that data
so they can train the rest of their their devices and stuff and so they can
Take things from it for the most point
But yeah because they want all of that data
But yeah, because they want that data. Oh, there's another like just get let's get one more in here. Okay, speaking of google, basically
There's some leaks of where the heck did I put this?
There's a new gmail coming in the next couple weeks and it has some cool new features
Yeah, someone data mining is profitable basically
Yeah, this looks awesome. Uh, not only does it aesthetically looks kind of cool or more androidy
But it has this new feature of like confidential email. So there's like a little lock icon you can hit
and when you hit that block icon your email gets all these new properties such as
The recipient can no longer forward that email. They can't download it. They can't print it
Obviously they can take a screenshot because nothing can take a screenshot or even if you somehow block that because
Of their native os they could just take another thing. Take a picture. Yeah, sure. Sure for sure. You'll never get past that
It disables copy and paste
And it lets you make it explode so you can make the email itself expire after like a week or a month or a year
Multiple years and when that happens, um
So there are other
Services that have these kind of properties already the proton notably is proton mail
If a proton mail user sends an email or a message to another proton mail user and it's exploding message when it explodes
It just disappears from both of our boxes. It's like it's just gone
It's just like it's just gone the way it works or is probably going to work with the new google one is
If you're the recipient you're going to get an email looks like a normal email
You're going to open that email and it's going to have a link to the confidential email
So when it expires, I think it's just that link that expires and the email
Like line item will still be in your inbox when you click that link. You're going to have to enter your google credentials again
Which is pretty sweet because then if someone stole your laptop and just had access to your email because you left it open
They still wouldn't have access to that
That confidential email and you can also stipulate that they need to enter like a two-factor thing like a sms
when
when they get that email to
Just increases
Security someone steals your device and figures out your pattern or your code or whatever and can get into it
Like we were talking earlier like my passwords would still be locked but emails auto login
So if all my emails had this thing or all the important ones had this thing
Uh, that would add a lot of security and you can make it so that the expiration date like you're saying it explodes
You can make it so the expiration date is like multiple years
So
If it's something that that person's gonna have to go back to it multiple times
Yeah, well you could make it so that the expiration date is like way way down the line
it also says etc, so I
Could see a potential situation where it just doesn't ever explode but has all the other security features
Like you have to go through the link. You have to re-login. Yeah, all that kind of stuff
So you can do it you could do it for just high security emails in general, which is really cool
It doesn't just have to be stuff that is gonna delete if you're an accountant
you can tell your clients like hey some send me your
Your stuff just make it explode in seven years
Because you I don't need it legally after that time and I don't want to be holding your data in my storage. Sure
Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be theirs anyway, but yeah
Whatever. I think that would be cool. It's friday night
And speaking of friday night, I think that's the end of the show. I'm not a zuck juice. Yeah, that means it's over
I am too. So rip that's it. Thanks for watching. Uh, check out our sponsors
Synergy be quiet squarespace, which i'm actually supposed to do it this way
So we're gonna have the intro now, but you can still hear me
I think the set might look different next week, but i'm not gonna tell you why or how or when or if
So you figure that out on your own
Uh, yeah, we're actually going setlist. We're gonna be a setlist paperless office. Oh my god
We're gonna be a vr channel only you can meet us in vr
Thank you. Square. Oh, man. It's not working. There we go. Thank you squarespace. Thank you synergy
And thank you be quiet. We'll see you guys next week. Bye
Oh wait, we didn't do the thing we gotta do the thing. Oh, yeah, hold on wait, wait, wait
Wait, wait
Hold on hold on. Oh, goodbye. Okay. Okay.