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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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To the WAN Show.
W-w-w-w-w-w-w-WAN Show.
W-w-w-w-w-w-WAN Show.
W-w-w-w-w-WAN Show.
Yeah.
It's my favourite show.
Because it is my show.
This would be, if it was your show, it would be your favourite too.
I forget how the song goes, but whatever.
That's Tom Green!
It's the Tom Green Show. It's not the Green Tom.
I don't remember the tune, because I never watched the Tom Green Show.
I didn't really like it, but...
Yeah.
Oh really?
Yeah, I don't...
I can't tell you why.
Tom Green Show.
I'm not mistaken, that's the duct tape one, right?
Uh...
Oh, I don't know.
Wait, no, that's the Red Green Show.
Red Green Show?
I like the Red Green Show.
You don't know who Tom Green is?
He was like the pre-Jackass Jackass.
Like the shock value.
Oh, that I probably...
Oh, yeah.
He like televised his testicular cancer operation and stuff like that.
Great.
Yeah, that's him.
Well, I mean, conquering cancer is good.
Yeah.
I don't want to look at his balls.
Nope.
So there's good things and bad things about all of this.
Not much bad to say about our first sort of teaser topic of the day.
So Skylake CPU's information has been leaked.
Oh, right, I'm also the next one.
I heard there was a lake in the sky.
Oh, wow.
I heard that was the information that was leaked.
Is the Skylake leaking?
It could be.
What are we going to do without our sky water?
Is that what rain is?
Skylake's leaking?
Clouds are actually just these big puffy bowls.
You are the rain man.
The cloud just moves too quickly and then the water shifts over the side and it just
falls down.
That's what rain is.
Google Project Fi and I'm not going to really say anything else about that.
We'll talk more about it later.
It's a good thing this shows about technology and not science.
Not weather patterns.
That's why when it's sunny out it doesn't look like the clouds are moving.
That's why when it's stormy out it looks like the clouds are moving really fast.
Speaking of stormy, my whole world is stormy right now because Valve has released an update
that enables paid mods through the workshop.
Something that, yeah, we'll have to talk about later.
Okay, also the first USB Type-C phones are being announced and this is important for
a number of reasons and we'll hit you with that later too.
First the intro.
Will it work?
Will it work?
No!
How did that not work?
I told you.
It's constantly broken.
That is so stupid.
It is.
This is a local file.
Square space.
Hold on.
Let me just turn the volume so loud.
I'm sorry headphone users.
I'm sorry.
Thank God.
Click the thing.
There you go.
Okay.
How do I make that go away?
Click away.
Awesome.
I got this.
I wouldn't be able to do that right now.
No, you wouldn't.
Your knee is broken.
Square space.
Just like the difference between these two things is broken.
Oh jeez.
Also...
Linda!
Freshbox!
It's so exciting!
I'm so excited.
I would like my books to be fresh.
And I just can't hide it.
Oh!
I'm glad it's Friday.
I'm so glad it is Friday today.
I'm glad it's Friday too.
It has been a long friggin' week.
Five weeks?
It has been a long five weeks.
Guys, I was on vacation, but you know what?
Okay, I'm sorry.
We'll get into the actual show later.
First, I'm going to talk about my vacation.
Yeah.
I was on vacation, but it was like the worst vacation ever.
I mean, infants, toddlers, you name it.
They were there, and they were my problem.
And they were sick.
I mean, imagine this, okay?
Think about this.
You ever been on a plane, right?
And there's like a crying baby right across the aisle from you, and you're just like,
Holy crap, won't that parent shut that kid up?
I could go over there and pound them into the ground and take that kid and throw it
out the plane.
I don't even like babies, so yes, that.
Now, imagine for a second that you're that person with everyone staring at you.
Well, maybe you should shut the kid up.
Staring daggers.
What are you supposed to do?
I don't know.
I'm not a dad.
It's your job.
You want to hit them?
You think then they won't cry?
I can't tell welders how to weld.
I'm not going to tell a dad how to dad.
Do you think there's a friggin manual?
Yes.
Well, there is, but it's not very good.
No, the government of BC, they have like, there's a manual.
That's awesome.
There's like an infant one and like a toddler one.
Finland, where they send you like a whole package?
It's like this big box, and you have a whole bunch of supplies, and I don't know if there's
any books on how to do anything, but there's a whole bunch of supplies and stuff.
And then when you're done and you empty out the box, like when you take everything out
of it, the box becomes a crib.
You lost me at packages.
I thought we were talking about something else, but not, I mean, that's cool story though.
Um, so, so anyway, worst vacation ever.
Yeah.
And then I come back for like two or three days or something like that.
And then, well, hold on.
At the end of the vacation, I go to Japan and I have to hang out with this guy for like
three days or something like that.
Yeah.
And we did the Japan work.
Oh my goodness.
That was such a long day.
Like we must've worked 18 hours that day.
I was either in airports or in the air longer than I was in Japan for that trip.
Awesome.
So, uh, so after Japan I came back, I was home for two or three days, then I went down
to Florida to film a thing for Intel and HP and I was down there for like three days.
So basically like I arrived late at night cause that's not a short flight.
Vancouver to Florida is about as far as it gets within North America.
Not quite, but like pretty darn close.
So I like waste an entire day flying plus the time change.
So that's, you know, 11 hours in the air.
No.
And if you count being at the airport on time, so it's like 13 or 14 hours including like
transit times and stuff.
Then I basically crash film all day the next day, go home and work or go back to the hotel
work crash.
Then I burn the entire next day going back up to Canada.
Thankfully I got my three hours back, but it was like an early morning flight.
So I get back, I go to NCIX, I film, I come back here, I film Wancho after filming a couple
of things.
Then I'm like, I go home, I sleep Friday night, I get Saturday with my family and then 1pm
Sunday I ship off to Munich.
So I go to Germany with Nick van Berkel and then I'm there until Thursday, this Wednesday
night this week.
Basically yesterday I was back in the office, back in action, today I was back in the office.
It is good to be back and we are going to get going on some of those projects that have,
I mean people have been asking, why is Luke so in so many of the videos these days?
Because Linus has been all over the freaking planet and hasn't been in the studio.
Quite literally.
When are we getting more scrapyard boards?
Well, gee, I don't know.
Maybe we would have to have one of our two co-hosts in the country for that to happen.
For like any reasonable amount of time.
So it was, okay, you had a plan to shoot a scrapyard board.
That was insane.
That was insane.
But at one point in time he's like, no man, we gotta do another one, I'll be back for
two days, I can land, we can film the whole thing, all of it in the two day period of
like, what?
There's no way that's gonna work.
But I'm back and we will have, we will be filming a Scrapyard Wars to coincide with
the opening of the new office.
You guys should let me know if you want to see a new office update.
Presumably they've been working on it.
I haven't seen it.
I would love to go in and show you guys how the sets are going and how the office building
out is going.
I'm personally mostly focused these days on building up the new IT infrastructure to put
into the new office.
I'm really excited about that.
Luke and I were looking at the numbers kind of going, oh snap, son, we're going to have
two $4,500 Zeons, we're going to have, I think it was 11K worth of Kingston SSDs, we're going
to have, I think it was 16K worth of Seagate hard drives.
And this is, this is just like four things out of all the servers.
So I think we're going to have something like three or four racks in there.
We're going to, anyway, there's the Norco racks, there's everything else, there's the
45 drives rack, there's potentially a rack for the, a dedicated rack for the security
system that you don't even know about yet.
Well, a lot of high end security systems need rack mount and stuff, so I'm not surprised
at all.
So that's a whole other thing.
So yeah, so we're going to be looking at like some pretty mad gear in that room.
So I'm going to be, I'm getting all of that arranged ahead of time so that when we move
in, we are going to have some wicked infrastructure.
I don't know if some of you guys saw the Instagram post that I sent out before the WAN show today,
but what I've been working on most of the day today is consolidating all of the data
off of the stupid shelf covered in hard drives onto the Storinator.
So that's the, the 45 drives rack mountable system.
And I've been building up the new day to day use server.
So that's the one with the 24, by the way, they are not the 300 SSDs.
So many people are like, Oh, why are you using Kingston V300?
They're actually Kingston KC series drives.
And they're the new KC, wow, I should really know this.
The box they came in was here somewhere, but I've lost it.
Don't worry about it.
KC something or other anyways, their new KC series business drive.
So that is what we're actually using.
So it's going to have 24 drives in raid 50, oh, KC 310, 24 drives in raid 50.
So just for LOLs, I made a 24 drive raid zero.
So each eight drive chunk is raid zeroed.
And I read zero striped the entire three arrays on each of the three raid cards.
And that I had a lot of people saying, Oh, Linus has got a RAM drive set up.
No, no, that's 24 SSDs running in raid zero on some pretty high end LSI controllers.
Those are 9271s pretty nice controller cards.
So internal people in shadow, like WTF is raid 50.
Ah, yes.
Okay.
Well, it's raid five.
I think that was, nope.
That's the only explanation they need.
I was doing this because I was expecting you were going to talk and I was going to do the
symbolism while you're talking.
I actually do that as surprisingly large, but it didn't work out because there was no
speech.
So it was just like, okay, I can talk now.
So raid 50 is the way we're actually going to run the SSDs.
And that is with three eight drive raid fives.
So that's seven plus one for parody.
Okay.
So I'm going to lose three drives worth of capacity.
And then I'm going to take those three raid fives and use the operating system to software
stripe them.
So we're going to get a total of, I think it's around 19 terabytes of usable raid 50
storage.
And I ran some benchmarks on that too.
Performance is looking really good, especially for reads, which is what we want because this
is something that people are going to be using to playback media in real time in 4k on their
project timelines, on their individual workstations.
So that one's going to have 20 gigabytes, excuse me, sorry, 20 gigabytes of SSD storage
ish.
And then it can withstand up to three drives being lost as long as it's one per array.
And there's going to be a cold spare just in case something does fail.
So we can pop that in there.
I could have gone with a hot spare and a raid five, but then I only get 18 drives worth
of capacity, which kind of sucks.
And especially because we're going to be backing it up constantly to another server throughout
the day.
I figure, what the hay, let's just let it do its thing.
You know what I mean?
So that's going to be, that's going to be super awesome.
Then it's going to have 20 gigabit per second bandwidth to the rest of the office.
So people will be able to actually draw data off of it at two gigabytes per second sustained
madness.
Absolutely.
No Sparta, no new office.
Get it?
You have to like spit a lot though.
So I was like, I can't do it cause it's going to peak the crap out of the mic.
Yeah.
I was kind of thinking about it too.
I was like, I was like, should I do it?
We had like a really good attenuation set up.
Yeah.
Go for it.
Like I'll get all the headphone users are just going to like literally bleed.
Yeah.
I'm going to get saliva all over the blade.
Well, you could like, and then go up.
Yeah.
It would still, it would still spray on there and like it could even get on you.
And I mean, I, there are certain, there are ways I like to apply saliva damage for an
epic yell.
It's Oh wow.
So let's go ahead and get, get this show underway.
So let's start with the, uh, the squeak lockers article.
Someone just said 20 gigabyte raid while Linus Nope.
That's wrong.
Anyways.
Did I say 20 gigabyte?
Oh, I did too.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I did.
20 terabyte.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
No, no.
Um, anyways, sweet cockers article.
I can actually post it in the twat chat.
Wow.
When show it's a good thing it's live.
For who?
I don't know.
Uh, so as you might expect, this might be a little bit hard to read.
Um, but if you can scroll down, you can make pretty good sense of the chart or I believe
on the Linus tech tips article, which I can also post, I think it has an English version.
So basically, I mean, it's mostly, it's mostly numbers and things that we can pretty much
interpret on our own.
So the top end Skylake model is going to be a four core, eight thread, four gigahertz,
uh, 95 watt TDP sounds an awful lot like, um, the last
So 47 90 K has an 88 watt TDP has the same amount of L three cash turbos to a higher
amount at 4.4 has the same base and the same core and thread gown.
So unless there are some serious IPC improvements here, we are looking at another generation
of status quo.
Yep.
Um, so it's very much like status quo.
I'm sure there will be a 10% improvement.
Uh, the 6,600 K breaks the traditional naming scheme of the core I five, uh, four core,
four thread variant of the high end one, which is exceptional for no reason whatsoever.
I don't know.
We have a pretty high clocked T skew, which is actually pretty sexy looking.
There's a 2.8 gigahertz, 3.6 turbo 35 watt processor.
So I can geek out over that a little bit.
That's kind of cool.
I mean if you're into like, wow, that's actually, I mean that's, that's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.
There's no like super bad ass option, but there's the like, but the good news is that
Intel has finally actually restored some validity to the high end platform.
So 2011 V three is, but you don't want people to restore validity to something by like stopping
making the other thing better, right?
It's not like they stopped making it better, but like, you know what I mean?
Cause there, there might be improvements in other areas that don't really show up on the
chart very well, but it's probably going to be that good old 10% that we've gotten used
to.
So 35 Watts suck it.
Um, the first USB type C phones are being announced.
This is off of stuff.tv.
And you've probably never heard of it.
You know what?
I'm going to confess.
I haven't actually looked at this yet.
So I believe they're all Chinese phones, so I don't think any of them are going to be
necessarily available here.
They're all, I believe Lee TV or L E TV.
I'm not sure how you're actually supposed to say it.
TV would be my guess.
I could be wrong, but I like it that way.
The TV phone, do you think it's one or two phones and a phablet?
So you're not even classifying them as phones anymore.
No.
All right.
I'm not, I'm not against you.
I'm just saying that they're just so dumb.
Not a big phablet guy cause I'm not a big guy.
Oh, Oh, I get why some people like them just to be clear.
I get why some people like them, but you know, it was really refreshing for me to see the
galaxy S six just be a normal size and not have to up the ante in terms of just making
it bigger.
I do have to say though, this phone is too small.
The iPhone five S yeah.
Height is probably okay, but like when my thumb takes up that much of the screen, I
can't type.
I don't have my six on me, but I bet the six would be more like your size.
I typo almost every word.
It's insane.
The thing I don't like about the six though is the rounded edges.
It just, it doesn't work.
I like this one's form factor very much except I just wish like, just make it a bit wider
and then everything else would be great.
So I actually finished my galaxy S six review or okay, hold on.
We should probably, we should probably talk about USB three type C. So just to be clear
guys, USB three USB type C doesn't necessarily have to be USB 3.1.
This is actually something I didn't realize.
I think I even did a fast as possible where I might've actually covered that it doesn't
have to be 10 gigabit, but didn't like absorb.
Yeah, I guess I covered it a little bit in my MSI coverage at CES.
I thought they all had to be 10 gigabit.
Turns out they don't.
So the first USB three type C device that we'll be getting like finished device, I don't
know if I'm allowed to say anything about it, but it's going to be a USB 3.0 type C.
So that's five gigabit per second versus USB 3.1 type C, which is 10 gigabit per second.
So I'm not necessarily expecting phones to have 10 gigabit per second connectivity because
there'd be literally no benefit at all.
Like even high end phones like the galaxy S six right now would not be even close to
saturating USB 3.0 if in just in sustained transfer rates.
So it's, it's not a concern at all for the time being, but the benefits either way are
that it's reversible so you don't have to fumble for it in the dark.
In theory, although this has not been validated yet, it is more durable than micro a micro
USB.
I have some worries about that.
I do too.
But you know what?
If there were two companies that I would expect to kind of validate something before tossing
it out to all their customers, they would be Apple, Apple implemented it.
That's true.
Yeah.
But Apple has been changing a lot.
Apple has never adopted micro B though.
And lightning is an excellent connector.
Yeah.
I think lightning is a lot better than type C. So I like terms of the, just the physical
connector they adopted type C. Not only did they adopt type C, I mean, and remember Apple's
warranty policies are extremely good for them to go, okay, we're betting on type C being
the only connector to plug in anything else.
Apparently they expect that to last for the lifetime of that device.
With the type C that I've worked with so far, and this could be a not fully released thing
cause it was all tester stuff.
This could be a wasn't worn in enough at all yet thing cause it was fresh.
But like to plug it in, you have to like push pretty hard and to take it out you have to
pull pretty hard.
Like when I first plugged it in, I thought it was fully plugged in and then let go.
It was like, Oh, interesting.
I didn't feel it lock.
And then Burkle was like, uh, and like shoved it in and it clicked in.
I was like, wow.
Okay.
And then you have to, you have to reef on it pretty hard to get it out.
Like it's, it's weird.
And I'm worried about the amount of force that it takes.
Right.
I feel like it could be bad for multiple things.
Interesting.
Well I have a type C motherboard and prototype device downstairs that I'll be checking out.
Maybe I'll take it home this weekend.
This was quite a while ago and this was with like super tester level stuff.
So yeah, that could all be wrong.
So anyway, those, those phones, um, Oh yeah, all right.
There's a bunch of other benefits so you can connect your device to an external display
through it.
Uh, I mean you can do a lot of different things through it with, with dongles and whatnot.
Uh, thanks to the USB, at least 3.0 bandwidth, um, as well as just the flexibility of the
connector standard.
Um, I have a lot of hope for it being better than micro B because almost anything would
be better than micro B. So there's that, uh, we can talk a little bit about those phones.
So there's a low end one with a 5.5 inch, 10 ADP display, a media tech, uh, X 10 processor,
three gigs of Ram, 3000 million power battery.
It's funny how like a 3000 million power battery, three gigs of Ram and a 10 ADP screen or low
end phone.
These days.
Nice.
The mid range one has a two K display Snapdragon eight, 10 processor, four gigs of Ram and
the high end phablet.
This one is also a two K display, but 6.3 inch, so it's huge.
A four gigs of Ram, Snapdragon eight, 10 and AKG audio.
Apparently they're getting into the whole, uh, you know, that's really rebranded audio
thing.
You know, the funny thing about that is the companies that are rebranding the phones,
whether it be at beats or AKG or you know, Harman Kardon or whatever else, none of them
make Dax.
And for that matter, does AKG even make speakers?
Uh, not that I know of, but I could totally be wrong about that.
I don't know enough.
I guess it's just like a certification process or maybe the microphone is really good or
something.
Anyway.
Um, let's move on to another phone.
Okay.
Sorry.
I have to show this.
It's like headphones for your lifestyle and it shows that dude hugging what I presume
is his girlfriend.
And it's like, I'm not listening to you.
Hello.
Good to see you.
Okay.
Bye.
Is that a closed?
Yeah, that's a close.
Yeah, exactly.
Closed back headphone, man.
Here.
Is that just AKG.com?
Yeah.
All right.
We got it.
We got to share that with you guys.
Let me just go ahead.
I find that to be wonderful.
Fire that up on my screen.
So, so that's, that's what's going down over here.
Uh, it doesn't go down apparently because yeah, yeah, it's the one arm hug too.
Yep.
And he's like not even looking at her.
Here's the one arm hug.
I'm looking at something behind you.
He's checking out the chick behind her.
It's totally happening.
Maybe it's his sister and the girl behind her is the one he's actually interested in.
So he's like, Oh, Hey.
Yeah.
Good to see you.
And then going to the other girl.
Right.
Well, that's, that's, that's a good way to be back in storyline.
It's his sister.
Yeah.
You're all about the backend, aren't you?
All right.
So now going to the one plus two, uh, the original article here is from Android central
and I have the M link in here.
There we go.
You will finally be able to buy the one plus one whenever you want, but, uh, they are also
going to be, um, re introducing the invite system with the launch of the one plus two,
which we're expecting sometime in the third quarter.
So sometime in about the next three to six months.
So as annoyed as you were with one plus and the whole, you know, invite system or send
us your sexy photos and you can get a phone or you can buy a phone or whatever, all of
the completely disastrous stuff, I guess it's all coming back.
Um, they do have some comments about the one plus two, so we'll be far more prepared to,
to make the, uh, the transition into whatever the original transition was, something, something
we're committed to maintaining razor thin margins in order to give as much value as
possible back to users.
And this increases our risk.
It will bring the challenges that came along with a brand new product.
And initially our invite system will help us to manage that risk.
It also helps us to be sure that everyone plus two user gets the amazing experience
that they deserve.
Sure, man.
So rumored specs of the one plus two, there's a Qualcomm Snapdragon eight, 10 processor,
Android five dual SIM card support, which is kind of cool for like some people.
I think it's kind of cool, but not everyone, yeah, I would like it to four gigs of Ram
micro SD card support, which is going away on a lot of phones.
So that's nice.
Yeah.
I was really surprised to see galaxy S six with no removable battery and no micro SD.
Yep.
And a 3,300 million power battery.
With that said, the one time that I've ever really had to use micro SD on an Android device,
it let me down.
I tried to use the micro SD expansion on my shield, a shield portable.
I can't tell.
I can't figure out what Nvidia is calling any of this stuff.
Is that one of our news articles today?
No, I didn't look at it in the article, but they renamed the shield console.
They renamed it shield Android TV.
It's like, what are you?
Are you Android TV?
Are you shield?
You don't know what you are.
I mean, so, and so I think it's still called the shield portable, the handheld one.
Okay.
So I wanted to store some emulated games, some ROMs on it and the original shield.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
See exactly.
Shield classic.
There's a shield now with more aspartame.
The shield tablets technically handheld.
Yeah.
You're that's true.
Like, I'm not saying you're wrong.
It's just confusing.
It's incredibly confusing.
So I wanted to put some ROMs on an SD card.
Turns out that if you load a ROM off an SD card with the retro, whatever, arc, retro
arc, whatever it's called, something something, save states, right, yeah, not that we condone
original cartridges and all that noise.
So save states don't save.
They try to save and then there's like a write permissions problem, something something.
I have to put it on the actual internal memory.
So I'm sitting here going, what do you people actually use this for?
Because I've switched to a streaming music service and...
So you don't use the videos part.
Photos.
Okay.
But you're not going to take photos with your shield.
I'm not going to take, well, even on my phones, I'm not going to take more than, like 16 gigs
is not enough.
No.
So I don't buy into that, but I'm not going to take 32 gigs of photos and I don't need
a bazillion apps.
Like I think I like to think people have mostly gotten over the I need 200 apps on my phone
thing because there's I mean I can't come up with a reason to have more than about 50
you know or like and then like a plus or minus you know like 10 for like the couple games
you're playing right now.
I have the junk folder and then I have the super junk folder and the super junk folder
I don't have probably more than 50 but the super junk folder is literally just like the
stuff that comes with the phone that I can't get rid of.
The mobility apps.
Yeah yeah or like whatever junk that I might need to access once in however long.
Somehow dbrand managed to send me a bell phone and I was just like great.
I'm sure glad I didn't just get a random carrier unlocked one.
How did you find this?
Not even Canadian.
That's so random.
But yeah I mean I found that even having some apps installed on my phone tanks the battery
life like I had that issue with and maybe it's resolved by now and maybe it was just
particular to the 1M8 but I had that issue with Plex just junking the battery life of
the 1M8 even when I wasn't using it at all.
So like I don't know I think 32 gigs is lots I think 64 gigs is tons and the 128 gigs that
I have on the iPhone 6 is like way more than enough so I don't know I'm not I don't care
that much about SD expansion and I don't really care that much about removable battery but
I do wish that the Galaxy S6 had a larger had a higher capacity battery are they oh
a bunch of people were like what they are Canadian oh oops uh well Canadian owned and
operated found it on 11 11 11 same time that Skyrim came out yeah never forget Skyrim release
um uh so right one plus is also expected to launch the one plus light so that is not a
phone it's a light actually it's a phone so it's kind of a cut down version of this outside
there's an event wait event scheduled on the 20th of April this is an outdated article
dang it horribly well let's see if we can find some actual information on the one plus
light which it's like one plus one light get it okay so release date specs features and
improvements so the one plus light so this is from the Latino post they must oh sorry
I wasn't listening I was reading the Latino post it's fine I'm surprised their SEO is
good enough that they were the first that I think they were the second hit for one plus
light something along those lines wow their site is slow look all them yeah holy actual
balls and they don't have just like a wow it's just so many things are loading it's
just a link to John Rettinger's video and then like a mass ton of ads the most ads and
like a bunch of one big man down there okay this site is terrible so I don't care anymore
I've lost my attention span for it so Google project five yeah original article here is
from the verge calm so I'll go ahead and just in case you weren't sure this if Google has
all of your daily yeah yeah now you can be 100% sure because they can be your cellular
provider tell me this that news last week about Bell selling customer information who
would you rather Google or Bell at this point you might as well keep it all in one place
you might as well just have all of it since they already have it all anyway like whatever
I don't know well they okay they do know where you are all right okay Taryn posted on something
the other day that he was happy that that service that he posted it on didn't necessarily
know where he worked and lived and what he did for work and all this kind of stuff because
it would keep asking him about it and I read it it didn't comment on it but I was like
dude they know where you're logging in and where you stay logged in overnight and then
they know where you log in every day and who else all logs in there and then who else has
those things filled in their profiles while you're there like they know they just want
you to fill it out so that it can tell everyone else really easily and so that you give them
100% permission to know that information they know exactly what's going on yeah like that's
why what is it like Kmart or whatever knows when people are pregnant often before they
do because they're like shopping patterns will change and stuff like they know yeah
it's done anyways they want to be a cellular provider it will be running on both Sprint
and Twood running both Sprint and T-Mobile switching between the two as well as Wi-Fi
base which is pretty cool talk about that more later 20 bucks a month gets you talking
texting and Wi-Fi tethering and international coverage in 120 plus countries and a flat
this is a really interesting pay model for their shit hold on can I jump in for a minute
yes how is Wi-Fi tethering not included it I mean in this yeah how is Wi-Fi tethering
still a feature it is 2015 yeah man that makes me mad every time I go down to the states
and because I'm just using a pay as you go and like I get it you're not gonna give you
know you're not gonna give it all away to the you know pay once per use customers if
you know what I mean or something wherever I was going with that and it's just depart
so I like I get it you're not gonna have every feature I don't expect to have you know voicemail
transcribing to text messages and sending it to me like I like I get that but not being
able to use the data that I paid for is really frustrating like I was trying to do something
with you oh no a whole bunch of people are saying sorry I'm confused all the people are
like hey line it's the wine show starting I'm like what the I don't know don't just
mute it just in case it's muted oh sure cool okay sorry um so where was I going with this
right right right right right I paid for the data why can't I use it on my laptop like
I was trying to figure out a login problem with PayPal and I was like freaking out and
the mobile site wasn't working properly on my phone I was just like I would really like
to use another device right now for like two minutes I just need to load a couple pages
reset a password anyway sorry it's not like you're gonna not do it you're just gonna do
it in a more annoying way Google's including tethering Google's including it and then this
is a really interesting pay model for data I like I don't know okay so it's a flat ten
dollars per gigabyte of data in the US and abroad which is nuts for one but then if you
don't use your data you get credit back for what you didn't use so if you go with a three
gigabyte plan so it's thirty dollars and only use 1.4 gigabytes in a month you get sixteen
dollars back and if you go over you only pay the same ten dollars per gigabyte what so
why have it why isn't it all just flex plans right like what like I'm sitting here reading
this but like okay isn't it gonna be a lot more work to deal with all the credits back
and forth why don't you just make everything in flex plan anyways I don't know so if you
go over your cap it's exactly the same as if you didn't go over your cap but had a higher
cap so you can put like a data cap in your phone and cap it that way or you can just
pay the same amount all the time and it's fine anyways so it's paid for only what you
use which is great it requires what you use it's pay for as much as you think you'll use
and get credit back for what you didn't use I guess requires a special sim card for project
five which makes sense works on both existing nexus six devices and new ones so I don't
know if it's only a nexus thing oh right available for only nexus six owners my bad no contract
no family plans available but it's pretty freaking cheap so whatever phone numbers live
in the cloud so you'd be able to make calls and do text messaging stuff from your computer
through your phone number something that's definitely gonna be a hangouts integration
thing yeah that's gonna be that's that's awesome I mean it was one of the things that I liked
about I forget I don't even remember what the word they have for it now is but when
I had the iMac and the iPhone 6 at the same time shoot I don't know whatever I don't remember
the word for it was but I could take calls on the iMac which was a terrible experience
because the microphone is on the back of the display because apparently Apple's engineers
don't understand how sound works but on it on a device that actually has a decent headphone
microphone solution plugged into it that would be it that would be awesome my phone could
just stay in my pocket and I could just throw my headset on when I'm sitting at my computer
at work freaking great yeah so I'm happy about that I think that's really cool so it's invite
only so there's that also it looks like it's Nexus 6 only for now so basically most people
unless they have large hands and an invitation are not going to be taking advantage of this
particular offer um all right uh yeah I'm sure it'll open up more later but for now
it's pretty locked down I send invitations to people with large hands anyways DOJ which
I don't know what that stands for Department of Justice cool they could stop Comcast from
becoming a mega terrible thing with Time Warner which is good because of antitrust laws so
apparently Comcast has actually dropped its 45.2 billion dollar bid on Time Warner in
light of the DOJ becoming mad and being like you can't do that I think they're gonna what
is it actually called lawsuit they were gonna put down a federal lawsuit so then Comcast
was like nope we don't even necessarily need to keep talking about it because I guess it's
not happening but it could have made them control 30% of the market for pay TV which
is a lot they would have controlled more than 50% of broadband internet market in the United
States which is a crap ton so I'm happy with the DOJ did something I guess I just the thing
that I don't that like that the thing that continues to bother me though is that they're
cozy enough that they wanted to merge so it's not like having them remain separate like
they're not gonna work together yeah it's not it's not like it's not like the consumer
wins it's not like yeah choice free market already have been avoiding each other in terms
of market share yeah so like that's not gonna stop it might even just get a little bit more
aggressive that's all I doubt it like why you already have enough money to buy the earth
and all the heavens so no it might become more aggressive about not oh being in the
same market yeah like they might even just avoid each other more see it's funny because
I thought you meant business aggressive but what do you actually meant was just being
a jackass of aggressive okay well aggressively aggressively jackass we need like a shirt
aggressively is such a nicely like a dynamic word because you can be aggressively in love
with someone or you can aggressively hate no you can't or you can yeah you can you can
or something can have aggressive okay tell me tell me this uh okay hold on if you're
in love with someone and then someone smacks that person we're gonna we're gonna we're
gonna straw pull this because if if it's like uh okay aggressive love uh yes no uh you know
pursuing one's aims or intents forcefully sometimes unduly so hold on let's just can
we just can we just put this out to the can I just look at the audience it doesn't matter
because words mean what we decide that words mean because without us you have defended
the exact opposite of what you just said so many times can we all just calm down for a
second see I have to twitch chat is talking about rape right now I didn't say it was a
good thing oh okay I didn't say it was a good thing at all right all right okay so you're
not saying it's a good thing but um because what I was gonna say is if if I'm you know
staring into her eyes and it's like okay I gotta think of like something charming to
say right now am I gonna be like my love for you is aggressive no don't do that it attacks
me it carves out chunks of my body and soul and takes it for itself I guess in like the
right context if you were like a no there's no context an emo scene couple maybe what
you just said no no I don't know no no the audience they're wrong they're wrong it's
like I now know what percentage of our audience is single but aggressive love isn't it works
it's just not necessarily a good thing it works terms don't have to be good okay I think
it's time to I think it's time to to to move on let's actually let's do our let's do our
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you know who's aggressive Squarespace Squarespace you don't even know the song nope you haven't
listened to the song since we did that spot meaning I never listened to the song cuz I
didn't have headphones why do you you're the only one that could hear it why do you even
try Squarespace build it beautiful no that's okay that is their new slogan or not there's
new since the song but that's not how they okay Squarespace actually has a pretty aggressive
thing going on right now if you go to nycommit.squarespace.com they are aggressively seeking new software
engineers and if you get an interview you actually get to come to New York and experience
the city as part of the interview process and it's not like if you don't end up getting
hired or anything like that they like make you pay for it or something so just just getting
an interview is good enough to go down and get a taste of the city that made Squarespace
possible and if you guys don't know what Squarespace is at all at this point for only eight bucks
a month to start you get a domain if you buy Squarespace for a year and it's an easy platform
to build a beautiful functional website that works on your computer your phone or even
other people's computers and phones so you won't be the only one to visit your website
I mean that would be good you might be the only one to visit your website there's nothing
Squarespace can do about that but if people visit your website whether it's your blog
your store or your portfolio they will have a good experience and they will feel like
you are competent enough to have a website you could apply to Squarespace get a trip
to New York and start a blog about your trip to New York on Squarespace that would probably
even help your application so uh go to Squarespace.com and use offer code Linus to save you know
this is why I really truly wonder how we even get through sponsor spots when I'm not here
because your entire purpose for being here when I'm trying to talk about freshbooks.com
for example seems to be to throw me off which I will not allow you to do freshbooks is an
online tool to allow you to focus on your business and I don't mean toilet business
this isn't a dollar-shaped club spot it could be your plumber okay actually the plumber
example is a good one because we even tied your dad into this last time did your mom
see that I don't think so did your dad see it I neither of them have commented so maybe
they both saw it and they're just like nope just not very possible so Luke's dad's problem
all right seems to be to do with billing okay he had no problem coming in and installing
a fantastic copper pipe liquid cooling system for us but when it came time to send us the
bill for his work it took him just about the gestation period of a human to actually give
me an invoice with freshbooks you can do that stuff online you can log your hours so you
know how to bill your clients you can send invoices by email and then you can even get
confirmations when they've looked at the invoice and have people pay by credit card for the
utmost simplicity so you can spend your time running your business as opposed to dealing
with tedious accounting things it's all cloud-based so you can take it with you on your phone
or you can work on it on your computer and if you visit freshbooks.com slash when you
can claim your free trial today to try it out and decide if you like it see I didn't
let you screw me up I didn't even who was that sponsor I used to always get the amount
wrong for remember I used to never know how much it costs yeah I think I think that's
the one that is the I don't know yeah I screwed up nothing today ha take that all of you all
right so do we have 11 pages of topics today we've actually been fairly on topic today
and we're still like there's a lot of rapid fires we're still boned all right so Norway
this is phenomenal Norway will be the first country to shut down FM radio the Ministry
of Culture has finalized a transition date in 2017 and I think this is asinine there's
a lot of technological advancements that I believe in but there are advantages to radio
that are not necessarily overcome by mobile data networks I yeah okay yeah so it's not
like it's not like there isn't you know another plan so it'll be digital audio broadcasting
also known as DAB which will offer better audio quality DAB plus sorry specifically
plus the DAB radios will not work so better audio quality other functionality like showing
information about the stadium station you're listening to and what song is playing which
by the way we have on FM radio so that's a thing the transition will cost Norway the
equivalent of 1.3 billion US dollars and the 200,000 DAB radios will become useless as
they don't support DAB plus they've already started advertising for the switch you get
more radio in a digital radio and I just I plain don't get it because the reality of
it is we use FM radio because it's cheap because it's got great legacy compatibility and because
it's good enough both in terms of broadcast range and in terms of audio quality I mean
we can get radio stations from Seattle up here if you want which I do all the time if
you want to reach a bunch of people radio is still a great way to do it because the
reality of it is pretty much everyone still owns at least one radio and we can kind of
count on that to work like when everyone you know jumps on their cell phones in an emergency
radio is yeah I was just going to say radio is a lot of time the emergency frequencies
yeah so and I get it DAB plus radios are not cell phones but we're counting on people to
have them so the people who don't have those and we can't necessarily reach by cell phone
or mobile data because let's say there's an emergency and everyone jumps on it and it's
totally congested radio is going to be the way to reach these people I don't understand
why we need to phase this out someone in chat said that they live in Norway and it just
seems like they always just want the newest stuff all right well newest is not necessarily
always the best thing I mean I actually had a really I had a good conversation with Brandon
about the some of the new cameras that were released at NAB so those of you who were following
our NAB coverage probably less than half of you based on the view counts would know that
there wasn't it was about half of our normal view counts even for show coverage would know
that red released an 8k sensor upgrade to their red whatever it is whichever platform
it is I think it's the dragon so this is called the red weapon and I think whatever I think
the camera once you put the upgrade in it is called a red weapon it's very confusing
because they had because if you upgraded the red epic to the new sensor it became a red
dragon and then oh yeah anyway so I didn't think the weapon was an upgrade I thought
you had to like buy the weapon not sure anyway you could exchange and then it's 20 grand
or 10 grand or something it was 10 grand at the show 20 grand after the point is they
have an 8k sensor and I was I was talking to Brandon about it because Marcus has ordered
one already as we know and we were just kind of talking about it going why would we be
using this 4k is already I mean sort of I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret
we were releasing 4k videos on YouTube that were up sampled 1080p for a long time nobody
ever noticed no one can tell because the main advantage of 4k playback on YouTube right
now is the higher bitrate and when you factor in also that the cameras that we shoot on
the Sony fs700 and the Panasonic gh4 both have 4k sensors so their 1080p is actually
down sampled it's like super sampled because it's down sampled 4k when you blow that back
up it looks pretty darn freaking good anyway especially at any kind of reasonable viewing
distance so unless you're pixel peeping 4k is way more than enough for web video and
to which I kind of went well there's the future proofness argument maybe you need more pixels
in case you want to republish am I ever going to republish a YouTube video on like some
kind of futuristic you know five ten years from now platform probably not so we were
we were talking about it a little bit and we kind of decided that 4k is already more
than enough for us so we'll be sticking with 4k and I just feel like shooting at a higher
resolution is going to complicate the workflow in a way that is just not worthwhile to me
I mean if you're just one person working on it I guess I can see why Marcus would like
to do it because he's got the time to kind of tinker around with it and play with it
and only one person has to learn a new workflow with us we're trying to figure out okay maybe
we could invest that you know ten thousand or twenty thousand dollars on back end equipment
that makes the 4k workflow butter smooth and absolutely perfect as opposed to yeah so so
things like like storage servers that's something that a lot of content creators completely
ignore for some inexplicable reason is having a proper storage setup which is what we're
moving to finally so and that's the kind of thing that for the price of something like
a decked out Mac Pro and like you know a red weapon for example you could have an amazing
workflow as opposed to a couple of really cool pieces of equipment so I guess it's a
priorities thing and also a scale thing because I'm not going to go and buy 12 core Mac Pros
for four editors that is like straight up not happening whereas if it was for one then
maybe you could pull my you know twist my arm a little bit yeah Google is yeah wow look
at that is ditching the old YouTube API it's probably as big of a deal as it sounds for
instance the LinusTechTips.com website used v2 and now uses v3 okay I don't know not a
huge deal they will have to retroactively update devices so things that use the v2 API
such as some smart TVs Android and Apple TVs game certain game consoles iOS devices that
are old and outdated stuff like that yeah would need an update but it's not like they
can't be updated well an iOS 5 locked device might not be able to be updated so you might
straight up not be able to use YouTube if you're using an Apple TV second generation
or older there's no current way to watch YouTube on these devices straight up that's pretty
brutal so that's really sucky I guess I guess we learned a lesson about buying functionality
locked boxes yeah PC for life this won't really affect like your website things yeah so it's
fine because like every website ever was like oh and then just updated it by the way thank
you Colonel Morris oh my goodness Colonel Mortis yeah why that was posted by Alex goes
hi oh okay right we should probably be saying who posted Lord Sparklebottom rusey top war
gamer cool Kingler one I like Mac and PC syntax VGM Lord Sparklebottom again and Alex goes
hi have given us the news for this week so far and word Oh 165 I both appreciate your
effort and wish you had never brought this to our attention at all because this is basically
the worst news of the week steam has introduced a new way to support workshop creators and
align the pockets of valve executives wait they don't have that second workshop creators
in the smallest possible way and align the pockets of valve executives as much as possible
starting with the Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim of course it does buying from the steam workshop
try any mod risk-free for 24 hours nothing to do with long-term support though that's
kind of funny buying mods and made by like you know casuals that don't have to support
it at all after that well that's really weird so with over 24,000 free mods I guess there's
nothing here about the ones that are becoming paid very quickly now that there is a price
on it and calling all creators earn money doing what you love yeah set your own price
that's cool you can add contributors and where's the where's the part about the 25% hold on
75% oh that's not on here that's weird so let's let's dive into this this is very much
a developing story right now so everything we're saying now take it as the information
that we had in sort of the hours leading up to when show today and not much more than
that but I guess I'm let's go with just the facts then I think each of us will probably
have to weigh in separately because I think we're gonna have kind of differing opinions
here sure so why don't we just do the facts the initiative was introduced yesterday pitched
as a way to support the people that made the mods I mean we saw that on the page compensating
these creators as we do inspire new modders to try their hand at creating new higher quality
items and experiences you can make cosmetic items sound packs custom skins fancy houses
epic quests entire new cities horse genitals whatever the case may be for Elder Scrolls
five Skyrim many more of your favorite workshop games will support paid content in the coming
weeks and they offer refunds for mods that are broken or don't work as promised within
24 hours of your purchase the sort of stuff that wasn't on the page that was discovered
later and has outraged some consumers and presumably some creators is that the creator
only receives 25% of the revenue from the mod sale so a $10 mod is actually giving $2.50
to your favorite creator and $7.50 to valve there's I guess let's let you go first you're
you're running with it I can go for it okay yeah one thing one thing is I we like total
biscuit here he's been on the show before he has a video on it his content patch number
195 is all about this and he's probably way more well-informed than we are so we will
talk about it for sure but I actually highly suggest going and checking out his thing I
have not watched it yet I'll watch it later I didn't know there was a thing I will also
watch it later I'm very interested in what he has to say about it good old John Bain
I don't like this for a number of reasons first off is the 24-hour support thing what
hey people are going out and chat about this there's more information that came out apparently
the 75% is 45 developer 30 valve like 45 original game developer okay okay so I'm just I'm just
75 valve okay all right so 45 45 game developer yep 30 valve developer 25 mod developer that's
what people okay okay that's interesting good to know doesn't really change my opinion on
it okay so carry on then yes well maybe slightly but not enough to really make an impact so
a big part of my issue with this is that a lot of mods break things straight-up break
things they can corrupt save files sometimes they can make this that you can maybe the
save file isn't corrupted but you can't play it with that mod and you can't play without
that mod so it's useless there's there's they can conflict like crazy there's just a huge
amount of issues with mods and that's fine when they're all free but what what happens
if you have a whole bunch of free mods installed and then you install a paid one and it breaks
all your free ones or the other way around you have a whole bunch of paid mods installed
you install a free one it breaks all of those it doesn't matter for 24 hours and like okay
if it breaks my whole save I don't care about the one dollar and fifty cents that the mod
cost me I care about the hundreds and hundreds of potential hours that I have into this game
we're talking about stuff like Skyrim I could have played that game for 800 hours have a
whole bunch of content mods installed that like double quadruple the actual game like
massively increase what I'm doing I could have been playing on that one character the
whole time and it could be totally screwed because of that yeah you can say you should
be backing up your save file you should be doing all this other kind of stuff but still
it's gonna happen to someone and that's that's crazy you only have a 24-hour window to get
your money back and getting your money back isn't even the biggest problem there okay
continuing on past that part the 75% thing is ridiculous 45% goes to the game oh for
just including mod sport like I'm totally down with supporting the game developer and
sure maybe some percentage of it should go to the game developer because we want to encourage
them to actually have stuff like mod support and with single-player experiences like Skyrim
where is their recurring revenue nothing yeah exactly so I'm actually I'm cool with giving
some of the money to the game 45% is really high I think they need to invert this whole
system I think valve needs to get maybe 25% I think the game needs to get maybe 30% then
I think the mod developer needs to get probably more than 45% I think it needs to be completely
foot anyways if it even keeps those percentages at all yeah I don't think that added to a
hundred but I get your point that's the numbers you gave me Oh 45 30 and 20 that's why I'm
like what oh I thought I got confused when you were okay no no I know it doesn't work
there's five percent it's 25 25 months that's your problem um okay so I I have some thoughts
on this as well so there's there's a couple of things one very positive takeaway from
this is you see the big blockbuster games like you're so I really hold up see this is
what people are that's a whole that's a whole other that's a whole other thing we can we
can talk about the we can talk about the fact that people are stealing mods and re-uploading
them and valve will not pay the yeah there's a there's a $400 cap anyway all of these little
rules are basically just sort of piling on to the crappiness that is getting dealt to
the modder and all of this in in all of this stuff I was actually reading up on a couple
of these things as you were talking but there's a couple main main sort of bigger picture
things that I that I want to address here so number one is that it makes sense to me
that the game developers who are spending the time to develop these great single-player
experiences are getting paid for it I mean we we see mod support with games like Grand
Theft Auto and with games like Elder Scrolls where these are big-budget games where they're
expecting to sell you know a thousand bazillion copies and pretty much okay we don't have
any recurring revenue from this game but it's okay because we're gonna make that massive
amount of money and there's gonna be a really long tail on the sales for years like you
can still buy Oblivion and it would still be a great gaming experience today even though
it's been out for like eight years or something along those lines so I so so the blockbuster
games they can include mod support kind of without worrying about it too much but what
incentivizes a smaller game developer to build a great single-player experience almost nothing
why are we why do we see a billion you know online online multiplayer games why do we
see a billion mobas with you know microtransactions for skins why do we see everyone in their
dog I mean this is more of an issue five or six years ago but why did we see everyone
in their dog trying to build an MMO because game developers want a recurring revenue stream
for their work and they want to keep going ahead and working on it and developing it
now with all of that said do I think taking 45% of the revenue for the developer as opposed
to the modder who is the one actually extending the usability of the product and potentially
driving new sales of that product to new users based on the whether it's missions or whether
it's new texture packs that make people want to reinvest in this game or buy the game when
they haven't played it before do I think that the game developer should be getting the lion's
share of this deal absolutely not are they supporting the mod are they are they are they
creating a system yeah are they creating a system where they're they're certain that
the mod will be white listing things are they q seeing it are they making it so you can
roll back the mod or they are they creating a mod module so you can manage your mods really
well and so that if something does damage to something you can easily undo it are they
putting these systems in place is that is that what the 45% is for I doubt it what about
valves 30% I mean you look at the people blatantly uploading stolen mods already taking advantage
of the system is valve investing their 30% in painstakingly going through the mods and
making sure that they work that would fall under customer service so no right well I'm
okay we all knew the answer this I was I was being I know I was taking a shot at the um
and then and then as for as for the dev the 25% is completely unreasonable as a YouTube
creator it's it's it's a source of friction between YouTube creators and Google that Google
takes 45% when ultimately we are creating the content that sits on their platform now
with that said I've accepted the 45% YouTube tax and I've made a really good living for
myself and for the people around me with the 45% YouTube tax with abandoning that to them
and all of that good stuff because sorry posting videos is going to be a lot more of an overhead
yeah the the back end that Google needed to do is the storage of all of our videos the
distribution of all the videos and stuff it's much harder than the really small and YouTube
brought us a really big audience compared to what valve is offering modders simply by
listing mods the way that you were already able to do in the workshop so so the YouTube
platform has contributed enough that I kind of go crap that's a lot of money but yeah
fine I like I get it you actually have ongoing overhead associated with with supporting me
it sucks but it's understandable yes with this system unless valve is contributing a
lot more than it seems like they are I mean I get it bandwidth is expensive totally get
that but that's the kind of thing where you could have the modder actually just pay per
use or something like that because there's there's no there's no real reason why a very
very small mod needs to have a bunch of bandwidth costs associated with it and I think 25% is
a completely unreasonable amount of money to offer someone who actually did all of the
work literally all of it I mean in many cases these mods have their own dedicated websites
where you can go and visit the developer blog find out what's coming find out what's not
coming the ones that are well supported especially deserve a proper amount of money for what
they're doing something interesting one thing I have to butt in about is GTA is no official
mod support oh thank you it's it's uh there's there's a bunch of games that do but anyways
but at least it is moddable there are games that are a lot more different there won't
there won't be like a workshop thing for it yeah no no that's anyways yeah that's fine
yeah um oh crap what was I gonna say now oh I forgot after that if you're still okay the
people that are supporting their own mods and stuff a lot of times they'll have donate
options and donate options it's all gonna go to them except for like the little PayPal
cut or whatever yeah but like the one point that's so much more worth it turns people
to point whatever percent um so much more so okay so so so but with all that said so
I'm super upset about the way this whole thing is structured I think it makes absolutely
no sense but there is something that I've seen people upset about that has really annoyed
me as as a content creator the idea that mods should be free why if it's crappy sure but
don't pay for it if it's crappy then they're gonna release the mod they're gonna get a
couple of one-star reviews on whatever marketplace it happens to be like super bass huge content
mods or whatever costing money that's fine yeah but no I know I know you're not gonna
have a problem with this but and people are saying modders can still upload for free if
they want and that's fine but why should they if modders are putting a lot of work into
this why shouldn't they make money doing it I mean the whole internet mentality that everyone
should do everything as a passion project doesn't make a lot of sense to me because
with monetary investment from the users comes I believe and and I mean this is my principles
as a content creator should come better investment into the quality of the content I mean if
a mod is as amazing as it is and it's free and it's something that someone did purely
as a passion project imagine if you freed up that person's time by making it so they
didn't have to have a day job anymore if that person has you know some principles that they
stand on where they believe that if they're getting paid they should work hard and they
should do a good job that should in turn turn into a better quality mod for you to enjoy
and maybe it costs you $4.95 or whatever the case may be I don't understand why people
are upset about that at all I just have a problem with you know the $4.95 mod ultimately
turning into a buck 25 in the pocket of the modder because that is a lot I mean when we
consider what a mod is gonna cost I would expect most mods to be and you can buy a game
on Steam for you know under 20 bucks a lot of the time like a good game an older AAA
game even so I don't expect mods to go for 20 bucks very often so when we're talking
about $5.00 mods or you know $10.00 mods expecting people to live off of an average revenue per
transaction of a $1.50 to $2.00 or a buck 25 to $2.50 is absolutely ridiculous and unreasonable
and frankly insulting so that's what someone's saying hold on a second you're not taking
into account the major modders are not wanting this who cares then they can release their
mod for free it's about choice the community being upset makes no sense if a modder wants
to do something where they want to turn you know they're modding they're modding passion
into a business why shouldn't they be able to do their passion and I'm sure a lot of
people are still gonna release mods for free especially a lot of the just like texture
mod things where or not even just texture mods but actually specifically not texture
mods got someone saying Linus your car is being stolen no that wouldn't have been my
car it doesn't have no alarm it's not it's not locked so they wouldn't have to break
into it fantastic everyone knows your car's unlocked anyways they're like here's a single
sword which I actually found kind of funny was a lot of the ones that you're able to
currently pay for I think a lot of that kind of stuff might stay free because people are
gonna go like oh I want to design a sword and they'll go and like design a sword for
Skyrim and be like oh that's pretty cool all right people can have it like I think that
will happen quite a bit I don't think people are just gonna stop modding out of passion
because now there's a potential way to make money yep but I mean like I don't know so
for me personally the fact that I could make a business out of YouTube inspired me to build
a team and to make much higher quality content I think we can all agree that what we're doing
now is light years ahead of what I was able to do on my own back when I didn't have this
awesome team around me and I would like to believe that there will be the basement modders
who don't want to be paid and just want to do it for fun and don't want the pressure
of customers that's a real thing not wanting the pressure of people who are paying for
your content wanting people to have it for free so that if like that's something goes
wrong you can just go whoa yeah well this was free dude it comes with all the warranties
associated with free stuff that's sometimes I brought this up earlier forgot about it
that's actually one of the reasons why I was scared about this and one of the reasons why
I like buying things sometimes because if I buy something and it breaks there's someone
that I can hold accountable yeah and I can be like hey fix this I paid for it fix it
or else I'll like bring hell on you as much as I possibly can if I'm downloading stuff
for free if anything goes wrong with it I'm just like okay I'll submit a bug report or
like try to fix it myself and if neither of those things work then I guess that's about
how that goes I've got a lot of people talking about how modders if they want to go legit
in their business so this is this is more of an okay so two things number one people
want us to talk about the four hundred dollar payment threshold from valve which is nonsense
by the way that is ridiculous the typical payment threshold is a hundred dollars for
things like google adsense well for things like google adsense if you're gonna have actually
affiliate programs that I've been part of I think amazon's is a hundred dollars when
you make a hundred dollars yeah it's when you make out the same as this no it's 400
no you get a hundred dollars when you make a hundred dollars yeah okay yeah it's the
same thing but it's not but much less because lots of mods will never like you could make
a sword and you could be like this is a one dollar sword and three hundred and fifty people
might buy it and you never get your your one hundred dollar check I believe it was nick
or ghost or I don't know someone just updated this you need to get a hundred dollars before
you can withdraw the funds so you must sell at least four hundred dollars yeah before
you can withdraw the funds and then shoot there was something else that that people
were bringing up on that people are bringing up that I wanted to address right so the whole
thing about about modders a lot of them kind of being kind of gray and sketch because they're
releasing it for free so a lot of them are not using paid versions of the often very
expensive software that's involved in 3d modeling and game creation so honestly that's the kind
of thing that is just gonna have to be up to the modders the ones that want to continue
to do it for free and fly under the radar I think are gonna be put under a lot less
scrutiny than the ones that decide to go okay yeah I'm gonna make a business out of this
we're gonna make items we're gonna make game mods we're gonna make texture packs and I
guess I better invest in some actual software now because I mean honestly there's there's
there's not a lot that valve or the game developer can do to police this and people are just
gonna have to be responsible and if they're not able to be responsible that's ultimately
gonna be on them which is which is sort of just yet yet another thing like we're putting
all the extra overhead on the modder for their 25% that they get yeah this out of this whole
thing yeah the whole thing is ridiculous and yeah I don't know I actually didn't really
read our notes I was just going off the top of my head on a lot of this well a lot of
this has been updated while we've been sitting here so there's that um one of the interesting
things too is gonna be the people that potentially make it a paid mod on the workshop and a free
mod in other ways like if you install it through like Skyrim Nexus or whatever yeah they make
it a free mod that way and a paid mod on the workshop that can be fairly interesting that
could pull people away from the whole workshop platform but then that only worked for certain
games I guess I don't know I don't know what else to talk about we've got like 12 minutes
left gamers in the UK showing a tendency of curbing pre-order habits yeah I guess there's
not really a whole lot to say about that did you ever post the link for the valve thing
I think so okay cool um 20% of UK gamers have said that they have either stopped pre-ordering
or pre-order less games there's more information in that article but it's not a ton more information
so that's cool it looks like um you know I was actually totally down to pre-order games
a long time ago yeah I used to yeah and it was fine and I actually never had a problem
with it yeah I got burned on Bioshock 2 and then I was done yeah and actually I got semi
burned on Left 4 Dead 2 I thought Left 4 Dead 2 was a complete waste of money for what they
were charging for it that should have been an expansion pack for 1999 um okay yeah okay
well we can do this really really quickly Lieber Land is the new European nation that
runs off Bitcoin so they've got some pretty unorthodox practices taxes all cryptocurrencies
all cryptocurrencies uh so it's a small piece of land between Croatia and Serbia um it's
the has no military taxes are optional um they should have a military they just have
like one dude with a board with a nail through it and be like yeah that's our military yep
so they won't let in people who have communist nazi or extremist past you can't be punished
for past criminal offenses you have to have respect for other people and respect the opinions
of others regardless of their race ethnicity orientation or religion and have respect for
private ownership that is untouchable so registrations and applications for the new country are going
swimmingly as over 20,000 people have already applied with over 100,000 expected by the
week's end I actually didn't know it was that simple to just start a nation we should start
Linus Land I don't think it's that I want to be more of a theme park because you have
to have the land let's just buy a theme park okay Linus Land and it can be the theme park
nation theme park nation I'm clearly not talking about anything real at this point so let's
go ahead and uh let's do a little bit of video card news yeah so gtx 980 metal and 980 ti
let's go ahead and pull up the kit guru article here so the 980 ti is rumored to be coming
next month with a 980 metal in the works so the rumored specs of the 980 ti would put
it pretty darn close to the titan x so it would have a fully featured gm 200 processor
um it would have six gigs of memory compared to 12 gigs on the titan x and be basically
pretty darn badass 3072 stream processors etc etc actually I don't know if that's the
full number of texture units because I can't remember the titan x specs off the top of
my head but the point is it'll be super fast it'll be cheaper than a titan x and uh not
by a whole heck of a lot I guess that's pretty much all there is to say about it yeah I I
mean nvidia is pretty good these days at not making you know people who bought the high
end thing feel too bad about it I think people who bought titans really got a lot of mileage
out of that card even though they paid a thousand dollars for it um the 980 metal enhanced version
is unknown exactly what that is um kit guru speculates that it's highly unlikely it'll
be based on a cut down version of the gm 200 gpu um I would I would hard to say we don't
really know much about you likely oh highly likely oh right yeah I was just gonna say
that I don't agree with that at all because both titan x and 980 ti rumors would indicate
a fully featured chip so if any of these are have defective units on them they gotta do
something with them yeah okay so 980 metal might might be it uh no idea what performance
or time frame will be in nvidia of course didn't comment they generally don't really
do that another article from kit guru is that 390 x availability might be limited thanks
to low yields of hbm memory so that's that new extremely high performance memory that
is going to be the 390 x's sort of feature presentation in terms of what it's doing that
hasn't been done before so I guess that's that's about it pretty much all there is to
really say about that it's basically a rapid fire topic um I mean there's a whole bunch
of other stuff in here about hbm memory so stacks 4d ram dies with two 128-bit channels
blah blah blah etc etc it results in a memory device with a 1024-bit interface so yeah it's
like super crazy fast but supply may be constrained so a fairly interesting thing that I want
to talk about hammering on steam again a little bit oh really what they do depends on what
you think about this uh I'm not a huge fan but I'll talk about why in a moment anyway
steam users now have to spend five dollars um in purchases before they can add friends
so I don't even think that means just adding five dollars to your account I think you have
to actually buy five dollars worth of things um you cannot send friend invites open a group
chat vote on reviews on green light or participate in the steam market etc so you can't like
sell csgo skins if you've been gifted csgo because then you wouldn't have spent money
okay um I've had that problem before I've made a new account gifted at something and
then been unable to do certain things I think you already couldn't participate on the market
I'm not entirely sure right um Dominic is saying something apparently you can just put
five dollars in your wallet but it does say specifically purchases so I I like this personally
um I mean I was talking to did you know that over um which one is it overclock.net is no
no oh crap which one is it extreme systems sorry extreme systems is a paid forum now
haven't they been for yeah um years yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah so it's I think it's like
a dollar to join forever it's a dollar to join forever and their comments um their comments
about it I actually I I realized when I went there not signed in and I was like what the
crap this is a paid site now and then I logged into my old account found out that it was
fine because it had been created and not banned during the the prepaid days um and so I messaged
one of the one of the old mods that I that I kind of used to know over there and I was
like what the crap's going on he's like oh um it's the best spam prevention of course
that we could have possibly implemented it cost people practically nothing but it validates
that they're a real person it validates that they actually people who have invested something
into a platform are much less likely to dink around with it and you know spam people I
mean this is a problem I've always talked about like when eso was coming out and I hadn't
realized that it was a giant pile of junk yet um I kept on saying on the stream that
I hoped it was a paid game I wanted there to be like a subscription or at least a fee
to buy the game or something like that and then once I realized it was going to be junk
I said that it was going to go to free play and it did um but anyways that's regardless
free games get the toxic community all the time because you can just be like ah whatever
I don't know if I'm going to come back to this game time to just flame everyone as hard
as I can until I get banned because if I decide to come back I'll just get a new free account
right who cares I might lose my character or whatever but I can also just trade all
my stuff to my buddy then get banned then if I want to come back he can just give me
some amount of value back or everything back or whatever um what I'm not a huge fan of
on this is someone who could have not much access to any money or say their parents don't
want them to make online purchases at all and all they want to do is do something like
play tf2 online with their friends will be unable to which is kind of poop um you could
I guess like if you hook up through skype or whatever voice chat application you could
like tell people ip's bounce back and forth that way and then just make sure all your
communication is completely outside of the game but it's kind of annoying that you wouldn't
be able to communicate through the steam platform so it's not completely stopping them because
you could still join servers through that but there's a fair amount of games um I think
csgo if you want to do matchmaking I know you can join servers on csgo but I think if
you want to do like the matchmaking side of things um you have to have access to the friend
system right so like if your buddy wants to buy you csgo and sends it to your account
then you'd only be able to really play like I think you could do matchmaking but I don't
think you could do matchmaking lobbies with your friends because I don't know how you
could invite someone to it there might be some way around that twitch chat is probably
correcting me right now but it's just kind of annoying I don't know I've got lance b
taylor saying on twitch chat twitch should be paid to get rid of the idiots well a lot
of streamers do that they have their subscriber chat subscriber only chat a lot of people
have asked why we don't have subscribers on this show it's because we only stream once
a week so I don't think it's a great value we think people who are giving us a recurring
monthly contribution should be doing it because of the content in general not just because
of our twitch streaming so they should just be contributing to the website yeah just as
a quick way to address that so uh next article is on arstechnica I got the link this time
but boop boop and I fix it has completed their teardown of the apple watch which is rumored
and this is computer speculation I don't know why this news article is getting spread so
so rapidly rumored to have sold uh I think it was how many uh no up further uh three
uh three million units and that would be two billion dollars of revenue and or something
anyway it's a it's an estimate um so think big analytics though estimates that gross
margins on the apple watch are in excess of 60 percent making it extraordinarily profitable
I fix it says replacing the apple watch's battery is easy replacing the processor is
hard something to do with resin and whatnot replacing the screen is apparently fairly
easy and they gave it a repairability score of five out of ten not too bad not too bad
for a watch yeah not as good as the iphone 6 but pretty darn good considering the compactness
of the device with that said I don't know if they've taken apart the edition edition
for example though um Sony has announced the edition edition was just gold and no other
changes yeah I think you're right okay yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not sure if they would
have made any if that would change anything about the construction right yeah I mean different
metals can make a difference yeah Sony announces the Xperia Z4 their flagship for 2015 basically
they changed not a whole heck of a lot um snapdragon 810 32 gig storage every single
phone is the same micro sd 3 gigs of ram 2930 milliamp hour battery 20.7 megapixel rear
camera and it is dust and waterproof
seriously every single phone is the same all of the phone announcements today were 810s
except for one and it was a low-end one anyways oh well is that it are we good uh AMD revealed
that windows 10 will launch in late July I've actually I was kind of trying to wait till
windows 10 to move everyone's workstations um and sort of re reosify everything around
here but I actually yeah we picked up a couple of windows 8 licenses today actually for a
couple of the new servers yes I know it's not a server os I don't care it doesn't actually
matter for most of the things we're doing if we decide to virtualize the 36 core machine
and we have we probably will which we I don't want to say probably I will say we may do
um it depends it depends if I know but it's not gonna be able to yeah if media encoder
handles it okay then we'll just have it be a single machine I agree I just seriously
doubt that it will if it doesn't then what we may end up actually doing that that's might
actually be kind of smart if we did eight virtual machines each with 32 gigs of ram
so we'd have to double the ram and then we gave every editor their own render box and
it was all running off of the one box that has benefits and downsides yeah anyway you
wouldn't be able to just like pound out videos yeah well it would still be really quick but
not as fast yeah um but but they wouldn't use each other's resources and you could have
parallelized rendering yeah AMD reveals windows 10 will launch in late July so uh I I couldn't
hold out that long so I'm going 8.1 on some of that stuff I'll figure out if like I'd
feel pretty sketch about upgrading an OS on a server so so there's that um yeah I don't
know man what's your what's your gut feeling on that one uh honestly usually I'm like nope
but then looking at how amazingly well my upgrade from windows 7 to windows 10 and then
revert back from windows 10 to windows 7 went I am actually kind of down okay did I really
talk to you about that yeah you did yeah that was amazing like that was the best part of
the whole experience was how well it went up and back down again apparently non-paying
steam users can still accept friend requests they may not send them out so okay that's
not that big of a deal so they can have a friends list but they just have to have someone
else send them group messages so they could message the people all my friends that they
I'm cool with it then I have no problem that was the only thing I didn't like so yeah sure
all right well I think that's pretty much it for the show today thank you all very much
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