The stream is live, welcome to the WAN Show my friends.
You know, I sent out a tweet because a whole bunch of people apparently thought that this
WAN Show wasn't going to be a thing.
So I sent out a tweet being like, it's actually a thing, we'll be live in, checked the time,
it was 3.30 and I was like, about an hour.
I could have said exactly one hour.
You could have.
And I was like, no!
That would have been a crazy thing for you to do.
Yeah, yeah.
You're a crazy, you're a crazy kind of guy, we know all about this.
Sorry, what are we talking about?
Alright, it's time for the show.
So let's kick things off with some fun, oh right, no, we'll kick things off with what
we're going to talk about today.
Yes.
Right, thank you.
So I wanted to talk about your haircut.
I think you look very nice.
Didn't you also get a haircut?
I did, I'm fishing for compliments.
Ah, I see, I think yours is wonderful.
Thank you.
Yes.
Mine cost zero dollars.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.
Mine didn't.
My wife did it.
If I want a zero dollar haircut, my dad will grab the shaver, put it on the minimum setting
and just go.
Does he have to put it on the minimum setting?
Well, it's an option.
I mean it doesn't take that much longer.
We have dog clippers, that's what we have.
Probably excellent quality clippers.
Oh, they're great.
Yeah.
And like well taken care of and all that kind of stuff.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
And also used for my hair sometimes.
And also used for your hair sometimes, I mean dog hair is perfectly safe.
People are talking about dollar shave club, no, no, no, no, dollar shave club is for the
first place.
No, if you were bald, you could use both their shaving cream and their shavers.
Funny story, dollar shave club is not one of our sponsors today, but this is just an
anecdote.
When I was researching dollar shave club to find out whether we should take them on as
a sponsor, there was actually one review on YouTube in particular of a dude who didn't
get provided dollar shave club razors, but just signed up for it and did a review that
had like 70,000 views and he was bald.
And so I think people who shave their heads as well with their razors are going to be
way better people to talk to about the longevity of the blade.
So he's like, yeah, it lasts longer than quality too though, because you have such a bigger
zone where you can potentially cut yourself and shaving your face is actually relatively
easy because you can see what you're doing.
Yeah.
So the back of your head and stuff is not going to be, he was just like, yeah, these
are good.
And I'm like, okay, then I guess they're a sponsor.
So where was I?
Right.
They pirated movie.
Uh, no, they didn't pirate me.
Sony pirated the interview.
No, hold on backup.
Sony pirated music in the interview.
That is to say they used it without permission.
More on that later.
Hollywood says, well, Hollywood is a place, but they can't really say anything.
But in general, um, content producers from Hollywood, Google fiber leads to more pirating.
We'll get into that later.
What else are we going to get into?
Google steps up and says that if the internet has made a title to service that they will
jump on board and distribute fiber as much as they can because they will have pull access.
Awesome.
More on that later.
And Kim.com is to release a chat client for your web browser, which is totally encrypted.
And he's taken shots at basically everybody, but mainly Skype from Microsoft saying that
they are just terrible ways to communicate with people.
Speaking of terrible ways to communicate with people.
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So apparently people are asking if the stream is going.
Yes.
The stream is going Friday, Friday, Friday.
We just released a shirt that just says Friday, Friday, Friday on it.
We should totally do a Friday, Friday shirt.
It should be like Spellbronk.
Fry.
Friday, Friday, Friday, 4.36 PM and 22 seconds.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
Dot, dot, dot.
Sometimes.
Super random number.
All right.
So this was posted by Victorious Secret on the forum.
I'm going to go ahead and copy the link here.
Fire this over to you guys.
I can do that if you wanted to show.
That's okay.
I got this.
I got this.
All right.
So actually, yes, no, let's switch over to you doing that.
So here you go guys.
Sony about to get sued for pirating music in the interview, the famous movie or infamous
movie, whatever this movie is that I still haven't seen, probably won't see, but I commend
Sony for releasing it, except that they should have probably sorted out their licensing deal
with what's her name?
Yoon Mi Rae, also known as Natasha Shanta Reid, a US born hip hop and R&B singer whose
song they used.
It's called Pay Day without her permission.
They were negotiating to use the song and then the negotiations fell apart and then.
Then they just used it.
It was assumed that Sony had moved on and picked a different song.
That was not the case.
They just decided to use the same one.
Should we jump right into Hollywood talking about piracy because that just makes sense?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, but her, so her agency, Feel Good Music, I can't like, best name, best name, Feel Good
Music.
It's not even spelled right.
It's like Linus Media Group, G H O O D, feel good, good, feel good.
Well maybe the person that started this company, maybe their last name was good.
It's like maybe your company Linus Media Group.
It's not quite the same.
You just put your name in it.
Okay.
It's like.
It's but your first name because you're just that kind of a person.
At least I don't have to carry around business cards that have someone else's name on them.
The most awkward part is when someone will be like, what's your boss's email?
I'm like, um, Linus at blah, like, okay, that's, that's, oh no.
So Natasha's agency has said that they will be taking legal action against Sony Pictures.
The damages that they're seeking, I don't have them in my notes here, but I found some
rumored damages that they're seeking and they're just like, just pants on head ridiculous.
Like nothing to do with reality.
Well, I'm wondering if part of the damages part is that they didn't want to be associated
with the movie.
Ooh, then they could be big.
Yes.
I think that's going to be a huge part of this whole negotiation is that they, they
could claim that they didn't want to be a part of the movie because of all the ramifications
tied to it.
And even though these negotiations were probably going on before all of that, they would still
be able to claim all of it at the same time.
What a disaster.
Because it would be super easy for them to be like, well, we saw this coming.
Didn't want to be a part of it.
So more news from torrent freak.
I've got, I've got it.
I've got the post.
You were already ready with it.
Weren't you?
Oh yeah.
Well, whatever.
It's there.
Um, so more news from torrent freak, Hollywood, Google fiber increases piracy, the pirating
or whatever posted by Ah Ming on the forum leads to more piracy.
Let's go ahead and fire this up.
Movie studios fear a Google fiber piracy surge now.
So here, do you want to go through the points on this and then we'll discuss it.
Pulled about 2000 people ages between 13 and 54 about their piracy habits and media and
whatnot.
Um, more than half were interested in Google fiber, including a large group of the pirates
in that group.
So apparently 2000 people is a good enough number of people would pull.
Um, I'm not even, okay, we can attack them about lots of stuff here.
Let's not attack them about their sample size.
I mean, 2000 people is, it's a sample size.
It's not huge.
It's, it's not huge.
And the problem is with that number, it gets to like, it's only Kansas city.
Mm hmm.
Right.
But it's Kansas city because they wanted to pull people prior to the Google, Google fiber
rollout, then pull them again after Google fiber had been rolled out.
So I get it.
I get it.
No, that makes sense.
Okay.
Let's attack them for other things.
So do you want to run through the rest of it first?
Uh, I don't think there's a ton else to be completely honest.
Okay.
I think users tries to estimate how much money they're going to lose due to Google fiber
and whatnot.
But I think the general idea is more just having faster internet will cause more piracy.
That's what they're trying to prove.
And um, yeah.
So the study finds a link between between piracy and broadband speeds, which sorry,
I think is probably common sense.
Yeah.
It's probably completely valid.
I mean, the thing is that, okay, here's what this comes down to.
We've been through this on the show before.
We agree that we agree that not paying for things is bad, but the problem, the issue
is that accessing things by paying them is often less convenient than targeting them.
And I think the whole, the whole BS that's been going on between Netflix and the U S
I S P S for example, is a great, is a great example of this where your Netflix stream
is going to be either not working correctly with buffering all the time or even just degraded
enough that you get blockiness and choppiness in your video playback.
So it's not an excellent experience.
So you kind of go, okay, well crap, I guess I'll just download it and watch it at my leisure
then even though this is something that I should be able to stream to myself.
So the issue here is that the I S P S often with very tight ties to broadcast companies
like NBC for example, is owned by crap.
I'm going to completely fall apart here.
It's Comcast, right?
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
Comcast owns NBC.
And so there's, there's a lot of relationships like that.
So there is, so this basically is how we discover why the I S P S are not upgrading their networks
because they don't want your internet connection to be good.
It's not even a matter of like the fibers expensive.
They straight up don't want your internet connection to be good because then you'll
pirate and or even watch competing services like Netflix instead of watching on your television
where they can throw ads at you every, you know, eight minutes in between your programming
distributions is the problem and when it comes down to the question of, I've even had friends
who have been in situations where they'll properly buy something, but then it's broken
or some, some process is messed up or because of some DRM or some other reason they can't
even access their freaking game or it makes it incredibly hard to play and it has become
easier for them to just download the pirated version and run that one.
Even if they've actually paid for it, it's easier to just run the pirated copy.
And especially when you get stuff like Google fiber, which will make that downloading process
extremely easy.
It makes that more likely distribution is and basically has always been the problem.
So there you go.
So Hollywood's afraid that Google fiber leads to more piracy, but the way that I see it
is holding back the infrastructure is not the solution to this.
The solution to this is to make the content accessible in the way that people actually
want to access it.
And why can't I like properly get HBO without a cable connection in Canada?
Yeah.
HBO is slowly coming around.
Is it HBO go or whatever, but it's not in Canada.
Yeah.
I remember reading about this.
They're, they're finally turning it around, but it's starting us only.
And the thing is, is like Game of Thrones guys.
So pirate, very, very illegal, much distribute torrent.
Like it's like, I don't remember the guy's name right now.
Um, John Oliver, I think I really like his show.
I watched the YouTube highlights all the time.
I don't have any way to actually watch it properly.
I haven't pirated or anything, but I've just been living off the YouTube thing and I would
love to sign up for HBO go.
Just be able to watch John Oliver's show.
Right.
But I can't cause it's not, well can't because it's not in Canada.
So yeah, I guess basically yes, Hollywood, um, Google fiber will lead to more piracy.
I mean, there's no doubt that pirates are going to be some of the main guys and gals
who are interested in massive fat pipe internet connections.
Duh.
And also another thing is people that are interested in big new kind of bleeding edge
powerful services are going to want to do a lot with those things.
Yeah.
Um, and like selling someone, you know, a DVD that has an online license to watch on
two devices or whatever.
Like remember what that whole goofy thing where they were doing digital copies and DVDs.
Maybe they still do.
I haven't bought a DVD.
I don't know.
I own one Blu Ray.
I don't own any.
And actually I think I only own like two, two DVD, two video DVDs.
One is the first season of an awesome show called made in Canada.
Yeah.
And the second is actually here at the office.
I own a DVD copy of the princess bride special edition.
I have, uh, oceans.
I have the ocean series.
Those are kind of good.
I think that's it.
My own, my own.
I don't know where they are.
I was just thinking, I was thinking, how do I not own any star Wars DVDs?
And it's because my only copies of star Wars are VHS.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a VHS of the original three.
All right.
More Google and more Google fiber discussion.
So this is an article from engadget.com.
I'm just going to fire it up here.
So Google tells the FCC, look, if those other guys are going to drag ass and not bother
to roll out their fiber upgrades, you know, if you declare internet to be a title to utility,
then fine, we'll expand it.
We'll do it because the problem is right now, anywhere where Google wants to roll out fiber,
they have to dig their own trenches in order to get it to the buildings where they need
to get it to.
If they had access to the underground conduits and to the telephone poles, then they would
be able to roll it out for, what was the article figuring something, I think a 10th of the
cost trenches, crazy expensive.
So Google has already managed to make it somewhat economical at 10 times the cost of what they
think it would cost them.
If it turns into a title to utility, if it gets reclassified and they can just roll out
fiber wherever, holy crap, that would be awesome.
And honestly, if I'm, if I'm AT&T right now, do I just, do I just kind of go, okay, crap,
I guess we better just get on this.
Okay.
I guess the, you know, 60, $70 a month that we're getting from our subscribers is pretty
good.
Maybe we should, maybe we should try to retain those customers while we still have a freaking
chance.
So I don't know if it's the overall cost, it says the, the access to poles, ducks and
conduits at a 10th of the cost is limited by federal law.
So it's probably not the overall cost, it's probably those aspects individually, but that's
still a huge savings, massive, massive savings.
And if they're, if they're able to go through these pre done set up things, it's, it's going
to not only be cheaper, but way faster, the amount that they are going to be able to spread
out is going to be insane.
And that's awesome.
And this isn't just Google.
This is just the extremely loud voice of Google.
There's also smaller other companies that would now be able to have access to these
polls and be able to set up like those, those like small fiber companies that you hear about
just in like downtown areas of some cities.
Yeah, like downtown Vancouver, there's one called Novus that I would love to have access
to dirt cheap, wicked fast fiber, but I happen to live in the wrong neighborhood.
Yeah.
So they can only go to like some office buildings essentially.
And that's like it because moving it around is so expensive, but if you make it much cheaper
for them, they're going to be able to spread out those little awesome companies like Novus.
I don't know.
Pretty awesome, actually.
Very cool.
Yeah.
So this is actually kind of a fun article.
So Verizon famously said that if the FCC heeds President Obama's urging and declares the
internet a title to utility, it would cause great harm to an open internet competition
and innovation, but badly not is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Like so stupid, so stupid.
I mean the, the, the economics of providing internet service to customers and getting
monthly subscription fees is already proven.
This is already established and it's not like rolling out the previous infrastructure that
they did wasn't expensive at the time and didn't make sense based on the subscription
costs that were present at the time.
Like this is, this is an established business that works so well that these companies can,
you know, develop new, new content programming and they can, you know, name stadiums and,
and co build them.
And so obviously it's just, it's perfectly functional.
And so yeah, if, if they're not willing to do it, then great, great.
I would, I'd love to start Linus Media Group ISP.
That would be awesome.
I'd love for just a whole bunch of startups to pop up.
That'd be great.
Former FCC chair, Reed Hunt, Hunt, Hunt, Hunt, I hope I'm saying that right, H-U-N-D-T told
the Washington Street Journal that if title two gives Google poll access, then it might
really rock the world with broadband.
Dang.
I want my world to get rocked.
I wish this was happening in Canada.
I really do as well.
Speaking of which, ting, come to freaking Canada.
Yeah, really.
That's another, that's an example of the kinds of small time ISPs that would actually be
able to reach a much, much wider customer base.
Yeah, for sure.
All right.
So is, is that it for the Google show for today?
I think that's all we need to talk about with Google.
We might take a little short break here.
I just want to bring up that the new office campaign has ended.
Right.
It's over.
I thank you very much for your contributions.
Didn't update the total yet.
Oh, so we can't even use, I just fired it up so I could, so I could show people that
I think we might, uh, here, did we hit the, um, LTT land hoodie goal?
Give me a sec.
Are you checking?
Seriously?
Wow.
Apparently why do they own that?
Apparently PayPal owns pay pay.com.
That's so awesome.
Cause that's not even a title, that's just like the L and the Y are like here and like
here.
That's just completely not knowing what PayPal's called.
That's so awesome.
You're terrible.
It works though.
That's so cool.
You're basically a bad guy.
Okay.
So we need to add a number to this, which is going to make this more complicated.
We have to, we have to do what now?
We have to add a number.
What?
Uh, twenty four hundred.
Don't worry.
We figured it out after a while.
Well, whatever.
I just want to take a moment to thank everyone who was involved in the new office campaign.
You know, we had a lot of people criticize us over reaching out to the community to help
us fund the new office.
And to those people, all I really have to say is then don't contribute.
We had a lot of people who really did want to help us get a larger, more comfortable
working space so we could continue to refine our craft and make great content for you guys.
And to those ones, I say thank you to the people who were upset about it.
Sorry.
The ultimate Canadian response to everything.
Okay.
So the final number we raised thirty eight thousand one hundred and twenty five dollars
and eighteen cents.
I really don't know how we ended up with eighteen cents.
Oh, right.
Because contributions are in US and the total number here is in Canadian.
And PayPal fees.
And PayPal fees.
Right.
Exactly.
A couple of things.
So.
So, yeah.
Thank you so much.
That is going to contribute an enormous chunk of the renovations that we're looking to do
at our new place.
Things like building up new sets, putting in the office spaces we need storage racks
for Luke to put video cards and stuff in security sort of doors over all that valuable stuff.
All that good stuff.
Fantastic.
So thank you guys so much for for helping us with that.
Yes.
And another thing that I want to call out is that U.O.L.T.T. or the Linus Tech Tips
Star Citizen Organization is going to be having our battle extravaganza thing starting on
the 16th of January.
So there's a forum topic dedicated to that U.O.L.T.T. 2015 Star Citizen Battle starts
16th of January.
There's going to be a meeting of how we want to rank people and there's going to be like
winners and we're going to do some swarm battles and stuff.
So.
Can I have the rank of supreme overlord?
Show up and then maybe.
So we'll see.
I'm going to be fighting and I'm going to be joining in.
So hopefully everyone kind of rejoins.
I know the start has been kind of slow because there's nothing for us to do.
So yeah.
I got to fix my joystick.
I got to buy a joystick.
I want to get like a pretty nice thing and I'm thinking I might just okay I probably
yeah probably okay I might just I might just steal some things from the office because
I kind of want a separate like battle station.
I want to I want a curved monitor because I'm not using a curved monitor on my gaming
rig right now.
It's not like it's not like Star Citizen is going to run at 144 FPS anyway.
So curved monitor and then like a sweet like joystick joystick.
I know what they're called.
No I'm just laughing because like there's the there's the connotations of joystick but
then joystick is just even better.
What would a joystick be?
An Oreo perhaps?
All right moving on.
Now our source for this next article isn't necessarily the most reputable but fudzilla.com
says Intel could save Apple's bacon and actually the implications of this news that hasn't
really been hasn't really been verified too hard yet but if it's true is a huge deal.
The implications of this are enormous not just for Intel and Apple but potentially for
the entire industry.
Did you post this already?
I did.
Okay so basically fudzilla.com also someone just purchased joystack.com or said they did
I don't know.
That's awful.
Okay so basically the rumor is that Samsung and TSMC are both failing to produce 16 nanometer
FinFet chips for Apple.
So it's not that they don't have the the fabs kind of up and running the problem right now
is that they're not getting strong enough yields on their 16 nanometer products in order
to meet the demand or to make the cost make sense because that's the way this whole thing
works.
There's no such thing as a wafer with 100% of the chips on it being usable.
That's not how it works.
You produce the wafer you get all the chips you cut them up you test them and then the
ones that work work the ones that don't work don't work and the ones that kind of work
well those are going to be your your Pentium dual cores and your core i3s whereas the fully
functional chips are going to be your core i5s and core i7s.
So that's that's the way all this works and there's lots of different ways for a chip
to not work sometimes it could be fully functional but maybe it's operating well outside the
power requirements of the product that you're trying to build with it.
So this this could be pretty disaster okay so basically Apple the word on the street
is that they're looking to move to 16 nanometer with their new processors so they wanted to
be on a cutting edge manufacturing process in order to be competitive in terms of power
consumption performance and well really power consumption and performance are going to be
are going to be big ones with the best that anyone in the world can produce.
So right now Intel is ahead of everyone else I believe they're on 14 nanometer at the moment
yeah so Intel's on 14 nanometer right now and they've already begun construction on
their 10 nanometer fab that should be going online crap I want to say sometime in 2017
is that correct?
I know it was like about two years from now so 2017 sounds about right but like I wouldn't
be surprised if it was late 2017.
Okay no Intel says Intel to ship chips in 2015 and they figure seven nanometer chips
in 2017 so there you go.
That just blew my mind so much when we first covered it that I forgot.
Well because 14 nanometer 14 nanometer was delayed it was only delayed I think six or
eight months or something like that on Intel's side but it was delayed and then I think the
plan on Intel's side was not to slow down development of 10 nanometer so 14 nanometer
would just have a slower life cycle now Intel had trouble with 14 nanometers so it shouldn't
be surprising us too much and the end Intel had a big advantage there too because they
were already doing FinFET on the previous manufacturing node so Samsung and TSMC to
my knowledge are trying to go FinFET and 16 nanometer at the same time so it is no surprise
that they're having problems with them and basically the word on the street like I said
is that the Apple simply will not be able to get chips from them for their upcoming
products so Apple is allegedly in talks with Intel to have Intel start producing chips
for Apple this is huge because someone like a Qualcomm so you know how like every smartphone
has a Qualcomm processor in it right now every high performance smartphone Qualcomm does
not own manufacturing no so they rely on guys like global foundries Samsung and TSMC to
actually manufacture chips for them now Qualcomm's design might be very power efficient and very
high performance and very optimized for mobile applications whereas Intel has all that legacy
x86 stuff to bring with them that really hurts the efficiency of their chips in very very
low energy devices like tablets and phones that's improved a lot in the last couple of
generations with optimizations on Intel sides and will continue to improve as Intel forges
ahead with smaller and smaller manufacturing processes but now imagine this because Intel
for a long time enjoyed being a full process node ahead of the entire rest of the industry
and it looked like at 14 slash 16 nanometer they were going to catch up and all of a sudden
Intel wasn't going to be able to be slightly less efficient with x86 and just be at a lower
process node so they could compete with everyone else who stuck on a last gen manufacturing
process well now it looks like Intel could jump as far as two nodes ahead of everyone
which means which I mean that could be the solution I mean that's that's it's funny because
they keep they keep doing this it's just like we will brute force having the best manufacturing
in the world and then if the design isn't quite as efficient then bollocks to that so
we'll be able to save cost with much smaller dies or we'll be able to save design and we'll
be able to have something that's not quite as efficient as long as we have the best manufacturing
in the world if they end up two nodes ahead your phone in 2016 or 2017 could have an Intel
processor in it because there's just no one else who's even in the game it's it's interesting
how how companies like Qualcomm now okay I'm gonna say this and please take it with a grain
of salt may not have been that big and then just exploded and then Intel's like no mine
no way and I mean you gotta imagine that someone like Intel isn't gonna be giving their most
competitive contract manufacturing rates to someone like Qualcomm if they see an opportunity
for themselves to jump in and dominate the mobile market I mean someone like Apple I
think Intel is gonna be it's gonna be advantageous for Intel to work with them but if they lock
up a contract like Apple well that's a huge chunk of the business that existed for other
companies on Apple display that they're both willing to do that before yeah I mean it's
not like Apple doesn't use Intel chips as begrudgingly as that seems to be happening
in their notebooks and their desktop desktop computers but and partnering with them on
other technologies and stuff yeah things like Thunderbolt yeah it's not like they haven't
worked together this is if true yes just gonna say that just sitting up to bring that up
if true I mean you look at how quickly Qualcomm took over yep it happens what I mean though
like pretty much overnight necessarily mean small but in comparative to what they're at
now this is a very very fast moving new market segment Intel could take over that quickly
again because as a smartphone maker so your HTC's and your Motorola's and Samsung's you
do not risk having them having the device that is less powerful and less power efficient
for crap your battery life you do not risk that if you can buy this processor that allows
you to skimp on battery here and you know skimp on you know what or have like a brighter
display in order to make the best use possible of the power that you have available you are
going to get whatever chip is the best and you're going to validate it like crazy because
you cannot afford to develop a smartphone and have it have a crappy processor in it
that nobody wants that's bad so wow and even like general public is starting to get quite
really savvy yeah especially about phones like like I'll overhear people talking and
like maybe it's not the most accurate stuff ever they'll be like oh yeah it comes with
the Qualcomm yeah I'm like okay well or it has a Snapdragon quad-core or yeah yes they're
starting they're starting it's it's anything if Intel goes doo doo doo Intel inside and
like and manages to fit and I mean okay so here imagine imagine this imagine around the
same time Microsoft gets Windows Phone cleaned up that would be so interesting I would love
for Windows Phone to not suck I would love for Windows Phone to not suck too I took so
much flack from Windows Phone diehards for my HTC One M8 Windows Edition review where
I basically said it was a phone for no one was what I said and I think people some of
them were did understand me and were upset anyway but I think a lot of people didn't
really understand me because I didn't mean that Windows Phone is for no one and I didn't
mean that the One M8 is for no one I meant that the combination is for no one because
Windows Phone has a place a basic user like my mom there is no reason why she couldn't
enjoy a Windows Phone as much as any other phone my uncle has had one and really liked
it and the One M8 is a great phone but the problem is that the One M8 is a flagship class
600 plus dollar device and if I'm buying $600 smartphones then I also expect to be using
some web services have some other you know connected smart devices I would expect to
want to be able to actually I guess that's yeah that's pretty much it I would want to
have access to more super user kind of stuff yeah so companion apps for the other stuff
that's part of my complete digital lifestyle ecosystem if I'm buying complete like high
end smartphones then I expect that I want to use the capabilities of it other than that
it's just this super high performance device that has very limited functionality compared
to an iPhone or an Android device that's that's all I really meant by that and I totally stand
by it because well I don't care about apps well then why do you need a high end phone
if you're not if you're running your address book then who cares yeah there's way better
options on the Windows Phone and on the Android side of things and like I know it's not really
ready yet but I like the Cortana idea more than most of the I'm not really into voice
activation stuff I like the Cortana idea much more than the other things now Google now
isn't exactly that amazing either but I think it might work better right now all right so
Apple offers a two-week window for iTunes refunds in Europe that's cool so this was
hosted by giving TNT on the forum I'm just gonna go ahead and pull up the article from
kit guru dotnet now if it's say like a movie or a book or something like that and you open
it they reserve the right to not honor your return which I honestly think is fine because
you don't want that that situation where like someone goes to the store to return their
jug of milk with five drops left in the jug of milk being like actually I didn't like
it at Costco you could probably return that jug of milk probably but like if someone watches
an entire movie and then tries to get a full refund nah I'm hoping they have some sort
of like amount of time it was open to tracking that would be great because it's the same
thing at a theater I think if you sit through the first X amount they're not gonna give
you a refund for the ticket but if you leave very quickly yeah yeah and like that's that's
cool actually I like that I think it's nice that they have the refund thing especially
for people that might be sharing sharing a phone with their kid might not be the right
terminology but like letting their kid use say like a tablet or something and they accidentally
go to the store and there's like bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye hopefully you can
return all that junk yeah I mean right now I'm particularly I'm kind of waiting for Valve
to get their crap together and you know be the be the well not even the one because EA
is already doing it on Origin but raise the bar for digital refunds because there is no
reason a digital product shouldn't be refundable in the same way that a physical one more so
than a physical one much more so than a physical yeah and like even just have like and make
it so you can have the overlay on or off and make the default off so it doesn't bother
anyone who cares but like have a timer like amount of time you're allowed to be in playing
a game and like maybe you get like 15 minutes or something and you get to play the game
for 15 minutes and then if you pass the 15 minute threshold no longer return and there
could be this like little kind of like the fraps FPS counter just sitting in the top
right hand corner as a timer or I don't know or not but I like that idea I think that'd
be cool you're taking an extremely long time I read this poll I have a I have a straw poll
that actually so it's kind of related it's kind of related to the conversation we're
having about if you if you like if you've half watched a movie then should you have
the right to refund it now it got me thinking about food if there's if there's a hair in
your food okay you've got a few options most places that I'm aware of will offer you a
replacement a replacement of the same item gratis that's kind of the industry standard
if they're sort of if they're cut above then they'll bring you the replacement and they'll
wipe the item off of your bill or or like sometimes they'll bring the replacement and
they give you a free dessert or something yeah or something like that and then the like
yeah that's so there that those are pretty much the two options so there's a hair in
your new plate of food not tech related do you take out the hair and eat who cares do
you draw the server's attention to it immediately for a free one or do you put it aside eat
like three quarters or half of the food put the hair back in draw their attention to it
and get a full new plate and what you twice the meal what if you have eaten three quarters
to half the food and then you find the hair well then that's immediate that's immediate
would you intentionally keep eating to get more food and then draw the server's attention
to the hair so so go ahead i'll let you go first i think i would eat around it until
they kind of showed up and then i'd wave them down so even if no matter how much time that
was let's say if i have one sauce like it's pasta okay so like it got mixed around in
there and probably the hair touched other things but let's say it doesn't look like
a pube so it looks like a head hair i'd probably just wait unless i'm like crazy hungry i've
waited before and i've returned food that had hair in it before okay i i tend to i tend
to go for the immediate one yeah um unless i'm really hungry and then i'll just take
it out and eat it i've also been there before hair is i think it all i think it all depends
on like a whole bunch of different like and and i i admit that knowing that that's disgusting
like hair is the dirtiest thing on your body other than like your butthole like hair is
super gross and and if you have hair in your butthole then that's even worse okay so butthole
hair is like the worst thing ever um so you if there's hair in your food you probably
shouldn't eat it but well don't like i don't just mean not eat the hair definitely don't
eat the hair but you probably shouldn't eat the food especially if it's something that
was mixed like he said yeah so apparently the vast majority of you draw the server's
attention to it or just take the hair out and eat with only six percent of you saying
that you would eat half of it first so that you could just have more food i guess you
guys don't have the i would if it's something that's especially if it's like a multi-part
meal so like if there's some meat and then vegetable right thing else um i will wait
until they come around at least within range to flag them down like if they're back in
the kitchen i'm not going to go up to the kitchen right but i'll wait till they come
out and then i'll flag them down but i might have a few bites of whatever until they get
there just because i'm like okay well i don't really want to wait longer to be able to eat
but i'm also not going to sit here and try and scam you at a whole bunch of food apparently
people are thanking me for the cleanliness lesson you probably shouldn't take lessons
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year you guys are awesome i don't think we got through all of our google topics no all
right well let's do something else for now anyway um oh this is good uh microsoft working
on a new browser not ie so uh this was posted on the forum by alex goes high i don't know
what goes high means i understand gets high i've honestly never really got that one so
if you if you hold on a second so if you i was wondering if it was like a compression
of a word maybe he's fairly young and it's alex goes to high school probably not nope
yeah probably not all right so basically internet explorer 12 ui overhaul is a blend of chrome
and firefox adds extension support which is pretty darn freaking cool and microsoft is
allegedly discussing sort of past past internet explorer 12 coming out with a browser that
does not feature the internet explorer branding now which might have one of the coolest code
names ever which has been a trend for microsoft lately but it might be called codename spartan
which is pretty sick i don't know i like that kind of stuff i like it when they bring back
like the old halo stuff like how their their voice ai is cortana their new browser might
be called let's latch on to the one hugely successful thing we did with the young demographic
in the last 10 years um nintendo releases a browser link i've yeah they release a security
system and it's just called like the master sword as long as it's not like navi can you
imagine if their voice interaction system was navi hey shut up please you shut up and
google docs no um that was probably the most annoying thing i've ever done on the show
so so probably uh um so probably they're not going to completely overhaul the underlying
design of the browser but it looks to me like it's probably just a timely rebrand honestly
internet explorer isn't that bad lately it's just not i mean it's the kind of thing where
it might not have a lot of the special exciting stuff like really great extensions like chrome
does or firefox does but as a workhorse if you want to go to a page particularly like
an educational page or something like that internet explorer is the one that kind of
just works for me educational pages are uh like login portals yeah login portals are
a big big thing i've done what even was that i don't know that was a weird thing just walked
by really oddly
we should just start calling that the nick face it's kind of like a combination of duck
face and like popped out eyes it's like
why do we employ him nick is super weird good night ed i'm not leaving yet okay that's good
all right google okay more google topics all right this is posted by victoria secret i'm
gonna go ahead and pull up the uh cnn page here so google opposes the Marriott's plan
to block wi-fi hotspots you know what's funny about this is didn't the Marriott apologize
for that bs what bs um yeah the bit where they were blocking people's wi-fi hotspots
without them knowing i don't know i didn't hear about this yeah we talked about it a
really long time ago this was a while ago i vaguely remember this Marriott apologizes
after being fined by the fcc for blocking customer wi-fi yeah they apologized for this
bs yeah i remember this so this this is a post on farc.com so i don't think that's the
most um how this read write.com shoot i wish i could when was this october what that seems
way too recent or when was that farc one yeah october wow yeah well this is them apologizing
after being fined so this whole thing went down before that and and so they they apologized
and so now they're basically going yeah we're sorry but it was against the rules so can
we change the rules so that we can do this un freaking believable so basically their
argument their argument is just infuriating if a customer arrives at a hotel with her
own mi-fi device mi-fi really you're just inventing things now and the hotel interferes
with the customer's connection to that personal hotspot the hotel oh wait hold on no no no
no sorry this isn't their quote crap where's their thing um i don't think it's in these
right no no sorry here it is yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Marriott and the hotel lobby argued
that guests can use their smartphones jump in again sorry one second i love how it's
called the hotel lobby i know um argued that guests can use their smartphones or mi-fi
devices to launch an attack against a hotel's wi-fi network or threaten other guests privacy
what are you talking about uh if you open a uh open network if you post that's not threatening
someone else's okay okay yeah if if you if you created an open network that you were
and you were kind of spoofing something that looked official you could create a login portal
that looks kind of like it or whatever else okay yes but i don't see any reason why the
hotel couldn't monitor for something that appears to be spoofing versus something that
is obviously not you're just gonna run into complications there with them claiming that
it seemed like there was spoofing or some crap like that because there's there's also
problems where even if they're not spoofing like the hotel Marriott's wi-fi yeah someone
just opens a unsecured network and it's like free internet people are gonna want to connect
to it so okay so i i get that argument i'm not i don't agree with them at all but the
answer is really easy my wi-fi should be included in what i just paid you for my room for the
night get over yourselves thank you that too uh so basically this should just be a thing
in the room saying like connect to this exact ssid yep ignore other ones i mean i don't
understand you know what now that i think about it the vast people can still screw with
you even when wi-fi is included with my hotel room it's almost like they go out of their
way to not bother to no to not bother to tell me how to connect to it no because some hotels
make do a pretty good job of this where you just log in with your last name and your room
number to get into the portal yeah and that's something that someone who's spoofing their
connection wouldn't be able to do anyway they wouldn't know your last name and your room
number although they could just auto let you in okay that's true um so so anyway but they
they have an easy way to do it whereas other ones you have to go behind the you have to
go to the desk you have to get them to give you a card and it has like a one-time use
password and like that kind of thing is just inconvenient it's like they don't even want
you to use it it's infuriating anyway so basically if the the flip side of this argument is if
a customer arrives at a hotel with their own personal hotspot device then effectively what
the hotel is doing is forcing them to not use that even though they already paid their
carrier for the right to use their device as a personal hotspot um they're forcing them
to pay twice for the same capability to pay the hotel to use their wi-fi so yeah this
is ridiculous this is this is ridiculous and stupid and i mean i'm sorry that people might
get spoofed that seems like a very uncommon thing and it seems like also the kind of thing
that someone would have to be physically on your premises doing and wouldn't be that hard
to track down who was doing it with video surveillance in the lobby and make sure that
you're prosecuting that person correctly like yeah that that seems like there's solutions
other than locking down your customers from being able to bring their own wi-fi hotspots
yeah and that just needs to be a personal security thing like people need to be aware
that these are things and try to protect themselves this isn't the hotel's job to protect people
and that's obviously not what they're doing anyways they're just trying to get people
to buy their freaking wi-fi like come on cynicism hats on okay we can take our cynicism hats
off gtx 960 is rumored to be released on january 22nd although although none of our sources
for this are particularly concrete but that makes sense because the concrete sources are
going to be under nda i actually haven't heard anything about it so i'm just speculating
on someone else's rumor this was posted by whoops uh brood on the forum i'm gonna go
ahead and pull up the article from everybody's favorite i'm doing this just to erk the forum
people i was wondering so it's like that was a lot of call outs to the fact that you don't
like that source like normally there's like i would just be wary but this one was like
so it looks like if the rumored specs are correct it'll be around a 200 price point
it'll have the oh gm 206 whoa okay i didn't know that was happening i actually misread
this i thought it was gm 204 because if it was gm 204 then it would be an extremely cut
down chip versus the gtx 970 and 980 but it would be the same chip but this could be its
own fully enabled 128-bit gm 206 chip so just to put this in perspective nvidia has effectively
over the last couple generations of products worked their way worked their their their
less their smaller less expensive dies several like it looks like about two bumps up the
product stack so it used to be that an x04 chip would have been a 960 950 or like an
x60 x50 product and that is now an x70 x80 every other generation if the pattern continues
and then uh an x06 chip would have normally been like very low end like that would have
been under probably under something 50 ti like it would be like a vanilla version of
that or somewhere like that in the product stack so this could be a very very affordable
chip for nvidia to make could be a very very affordable chip for you to buy and if it's
maxwell based which of course it will be then it uh the performance should actually be really
good and it should be very efficient it's rumored to have only a single pci express
six pin power connector which is not too surprising if you think about it yeah none of this was
all that surprising i think the 206 thing is pretty cool i really hope that a 960 ti
which is sort of speculated to also be in the works i hope that a 960 ti would also
be gm 204 based uh maybe maybe cut down to 192 bit and then maybe cut down maybe much
lower clock speed maybe turn off some rakuta cores or something like that mind you by the
time you cut it down enough i mean gm 206 might be competitive with it at that point
so we'll have to see once it gets on a bench pretty excited for that i like graphs card
launches yeah me too especially the affordable ones are always fun because like as much as
we love covering you know titan uber edition or whatever we know that most of you people
aren't buying that so speaking of which go watch the motherboard videos oh yeah the main
interesting ones are going to be the next two yeah so i've had people be like this series
is useless but i've also had people be like thank you this is amazing so those of you
that are saying this series of useless i think you guys will start having your answers in
the next two because we'll be covering stuff like uh uh bios usability what you can do
how easily can you do it and then the next one after that will be finished system some
more once you're in the operating system so different utilities that they have and for
the really clever folks among you you might be able to read between the lines a little
bit and see that this isn't just about these exact motherboards this is as we get deeper
into bios issues compatibility and stuff like that this is going to be more of an investigation
into who is doing a good job developing motherboard products and making them easy and pleasant
to use for the user out of these four brands it's not necessarily just about these models
yeah we picked a price point and we picked four brands and told them to give us their
best shot that's what we're looking at here and we are definitely at a new all-time high
for concurrent wan show viewers yes i don't know if you've had an eye on this but holy
crap i don't know what the heck happened are we front page no we're not i checked or something
like no we have 7 800 viewers watching wan show you guys are freaking awesome and we
love you all there's a whole i don't know if you've been noticed but i i keep on opening
the front page again just being like wait did it happen this time because it keeps going
up it's not even a holiday today like i don't even understand whatever you guys are awesome
um speaking of awesome kin.com's mega to launch anti-spying call and chat service quote unquote
soon this is posted by dlf on the forum i want to go ahead and post a link for them
i think i'll pull up the pc world one i guess i just always post the line of sectors link
oh okay sure that's fine too so basically kim.com came out and criticized actually very
strongly oh yeah the existing chat clients that are out there saying that you shouldn't
trust any u.s based chat company with your chats and your personal information and your
and your personal data and um this page isn't loading so we'll have to give it a sec mine
is working fine yeah don't don't worry about it um so basically came out and and criticized
all the existing services named skype specifically and i got no problem with singling out skype
because skype is the least secure piece of crap correct um whatsapp actually did add
end-to-end encryption late this year all right last year i guess by now yeah last year it's
2015 quarter party we're not in the corner hold on let's get in the corner oh this page
still isn't loading so i can't even i can't even screen share with you i figured out um
mine's working totally fine but uh the link that we had in the doc was a repost because
someone's a butt so i'm going to post the proper oh all right now yep although i still
don't know why yours isn't loading because it's working totally fine on mine i'm going
to throw this i think it's just that site right there okay oh because you're not going
to oh i thought you're doing yeah no i'm not on the same connections my website's fine
yeah no no it's all good no no no you're don't worry um so anyway fully encrypted browser-based
video call and chat service so this frees you from the clutches of google assuming you
trust mega maybe you do maybe you don't i don't know um i'm interested in it i i'm yeah
yeah i guess that's really all there's to say about it it'll be called mega chat yeah
i just wish msn creative thing ever i saw my dad has a wireless keyboard for his home
theater setup yeah and i saw a little msn messenger button on it and i just stared at
it for a little while i was like please please come back you were so much better i know oh
man i'm like there was voice capability and everything i know they even had video at the
end yeah there's no reason they had like uh they had like your your msn messenger like
profile page like back when back when social networks were just starting up like microsoft
crapped the bed on having the largest install base on what was effectively a social network
they had it it was game over yeah and icq you could say the same thing about them completely
crapped the bed aol same thing it's like each one of those in their time was number one
was way ahead of this social networking game and guys like facebook come out of nowhere
and have to play catch up on the messaging app still win it's still terrible msn is still
better than facebook messenger all i even use facebook for right now is group networking
so i can plan events with different groups that i have and chat that's it no news no
news feed none of that junk just chat in groups which were already implemented sometimes group
chats oh wait we don't even need it for that all right so this was posted by detrick w
on the forum and it's from macroomers.com apple getting hit with a class action lawsuit
over large ios 8 storage requirements holy crap i mean cynicism hat back on because class
action lawsuits benefit absolutely nobody but lawyers nobody but a lawyer benefits from
a class action lawsuit because the number of plaintiffs is so large and the reward that
goes to each of them is so small that it ends up being a very large settlement so once the
lawyer takes their cut that's a huge chunk of money and then everyone who participated
in the class action lawsuit gets like their six dollars and a coupon or whatever the settlement
ends up being like what was that intel one recently over the fake benchmarks like twenty
two dollars or something yeah yeah so basically smaller the argument here is that apple does
not limit the size of their ios 8 or their of their os updates that they roll out to
these phones and it could be taking up more storage more than the user is aware of than
it did when they first bought the device and you know what i have to say to that stupid
lawyer who is a bad basically a bad person is how about we all be thankful that apple
provides os updates to their older devices so that we get updated feature sets and so
we get the latest security patches how about that how about we say thank you apple that
my iphone 4 only just recently stopped getting updates when android phones from that era
are still stuck on like gingerbread how about that what do you think how about we say thank
you apple for supporting your devices instead of being complete butt heads and turning it
into like and and they of course there's this totally totally romanticized version of how
devastating this is to the user like they're at a wedding and they can't capture that moment
because their storage is full you know what oh and then apple will opportunistically sell
more storage to them through icloud you know they should have thought of that before they
say can i help you just taking this laptop all right so confused carry on soldier um
so right so yeah so anyway they they so they're they're pitching it as this like absolute
worst case scenario you know what another option would be to empty your phone once in
a while and make sure you actually have some space on it before you go to a wedding now
with that said i really would appreciate if apple would start putting expandable storage
in their devices because it really doesn't seem like that big of a deal but um and like
yeah storage capacity sucks but exactly like he said just start managing your data let's
stop suing companies over doing the right thing even if they uh did display the amount
that the uh update took even if they were like you only have this much available you'd
still hit the cap knowing like i have this exact data and i've taken this exact amount
of photos and have this exact many songs like you're not going to do that calculation in
your freaking head you would check your system storage settings anyways get over yourself
all right so i think that's sorry i know i don't know i was i was trying to find something
that i could uh that i could kind of click on so we could okay here we go whatever asus
zen phone allegedly coming so the source is android police and this was posted by that
cool blue kid on the forum so i wanted to i wanted to have a corner party
that's why you wanted to do that the last corner party what was that for i don't remember
and well oh no it was for lots of viewers yeah but i don't remember how many it was
for it was for less than eight thousand yes that's right oh oh my goodness we have to
do something special when we go over nine thousand for the first time we should get
like okay i'm gonna should i keep this idea under wraps yeah yeah keep the idea under
wraps we'll figure it out we'll figure it out we'll have to incentivize everyone who's
watching to like share the stream and be like look just tune into the stream don't worry
about it watch it happen not that i think it will but watch it happening during this
show and we're just completely unprepared no no don't do it now we're not ready we're
not ready yet all right so asus is teasing their new zen phone to be unveiled at ces
saying see what others can't see and i think the the video is very cryptic but the rumor
is that we could be looking at a very different kind of dual camera setup than we've seen
before in the past so as you'll see below the device itself couldn't possibly have these
two lenses if that's what they are arranged side by side when held in portrait mode in
fact the screenshot above looks like it may just be a product of a post-production mirroring
effect on the single lens something something something um i think one of the rumors is
that we might be looking at a camera with optical zoom or something along those lines
so that would be kind of cool um yeah i don't know we'll see we can watch the video if we
want oh you'll be seeing this i liked the pad phone x yeah yeah i'll be checking this
out um i liked the pad phone x the only issue i have with it is that mine is locked to atnt
so i'm canadian and atnt refuses to unlock it for me yeah so i was just like okay i cannot
be a customer of yours it is not possible we cannot unlock it for you i'm like yes you
can you just won't yeah they're like yes oh man so yeah i mean asus is one of those companies
they they'll screw it up and screw it up and screw it up and half ass it and half ass it
and then be almost there and then be almost there and then they'll just take over um they
have the manufacturing know-how what they what they usually lack is the industrial design
but they've gotten a lot better at that in the last few years and i'm excited to see
what they come out with with the uh with the new zen phone um bitcoin deemed the worst
currency of 2014 this is posted by big strewns on the forum i mean i still wish i'd had some
bitcoins back when it was above a thousand dollars but since then it has dropped to just
around 320 dollars i mean anyone who kind of could predict the future would have known
that something like this was going to happen anyway it wasn't gonna it wasn't gonna keep
rising like this and settling in at 320 dollars if it can stay settled is just fine because
that's what it needs to be a currency it needs to not be rising really fast just as much
as it needs to not be falling really fast it just needs to establish a value and stay
there so that whole gold rush thing was totally harmful to bitcoin and if it's yeah if it's
ever to have a chance it needs to just even if it even if the bitcoin value dropped to
a hundred dollars or fifty dollars as long as it settles in somewhere yeah and people
know what it's going to be worth then they can trade with it because right now it's just
complete mess ridiculous um do we have anything else right this screenshot and said what do
you mean msn's gone um there's there's still i think you can still use the client with
like um and i think it's not gone in all territories it's not gone in all regions like it's complicated
the the gradual killing off of the service has been in progress for quite some time okay
yeah because i got kind of excited no i was like was there some way i can do this and
the problem the problem would be related to other things like there's there'd be no security
on it there'd be a lot of spam on it like it's not being maintained yeah so yeah apparently
there's a base amount for imax now yeah newertech.com because i complained a lot oh wow this is the
stupidest thing ever i hadn't actually looked at this yet it's like engineering a solution
to a problem that should not exist oh really the largest most ridiculous thing ever and
it leaves the leg on it so you actually have to just leave the foot you can use it as like
a phone tray you know you know those things that they have where you you plug your phone
into the wall yes it's like now built into your iMac aluminum design because you know
i wanted a high build quality phone stand i had people giving me crap in my in my iphone
or my imac teardown where i was saying that i think it's totally asinine that apple doesn't
allow the stand to be removed and swapped for a base amount like it did with the old
ones yeah now you have to decide at the time of ordering and people are saying no no linus
there's a base amount this does not count that is stupid stupid stupid stupid and apple
needs to get their crap together like that's not even an upgradability thing that's just
common sense monitors should go on base amounts and yeah we're almost at 8300 what that's
incredible we're not just beating our previous record we're just wrecking it crushing it
absolutely ridiculous monstrous all right so um this has apparently been redacted but
the internet was pretty excited about it momentarily i think um okay so i've been speculating for
quite a while that it would be q4 maybe q3 but probably q4 so this wasn't too surprising
um but i have a theory that part of the reason why it was redacted was um they probably want
to be a big thing at ces i'm wondering if that's going to be an announcement at ces
right so basically um he was so palmer was quoted as saying that the consumer version
of the oculus rift would be released uh what was it winter 20 winter 2015 um that has since
been changed to late 2015 early 2016 i think is the new quote that's been that's been replaced
in the article and honestly i wouldn't be surprised either it's it's yeah i don't know
they need to super duper make sure that their first consumer version is 100 okay because
if if there's any problems with their first consumer version that's going to cause serious
issues for the vr community as a whole yeah we need the first consumer version from the
massive front runners to be a very very good success for the entire industry i'm so stoked
to play uh uh valkyrie like so stoked valkyrie will be sick i'm i'm excited for something
i'm not going to tell you guys a ton of yet but a company that i will be going and seeing
at ces that has a vr ar mixed headset that should be really cool hopefully we'll see
um well i guess that's pretty much uh that's pretty much it for today oh there was one
thing that i um that i told this that i told this company that i would talk about briefly
on the show um no not that so this is uh actually here i'll load up the uh i'll load up the
site i don't even know how to pronounce it but i get contacted i don't know because vessel
would have two s's right yeah but i don't know companies do that a lot okay here we
go so vessel case they these guys contacted me and they were like yeah we have like this
super high quality iphone 6 case we think you'll be really really impressed with it
and we want you to review it and i kind of went well i'm i don't really review phone
cases because what is there to say about a phone case uh not a lot uh so so basically
what i said was look i'm not gonna review it but what i will do is if you guys want
to send one i will try it and i will like open it and put it on my phone on the podcast
and i will give people my thoughts on it so my initial reaction here i'll hold this up
a little bit closer for you actually you know what i could probably do is add can you be
my cameraman yeah it'll be like the old days yeah this is so exciting didn't we do something
fairly recently i don't remember oh okay this is gonna be fairly difficult because the cable
don't worry you've got this you've got this bro and i have no viewfinder hold on hold
on i gotta i gotta change the the output size we we need this uh we need this camera putting
out at 1920 by 1080 all right so um here you go i told them i'd do like a live unboxing
on on the land show so this is the case you can choose uh you can choose your wood finish
i believe i went with space gray slash walnut so there's little um there's little pins that
hold together the corners here there we go yeah oh yeah that that depth of field bro
that oh come on focus focus i have no manual control there we go if i hold my hand there
then we can see it all right so those are in there like that so the construction is
all like metaly and sexy and stuff and then the buttons kind of go through the thing and
there's like a i don't know a phone or something there okay anyway let's put let's put it on
the phone and so my initial reaction was like oh yeah this seems pretty cool i've actually
had it on my phone already i cheated i unboxed it without you guys um now i'm a little bit
worried because i had it on before and i had to take it off because i had to put something
else on on my iphone 6 um but anyway the way that you put it together is then you put um
you put the last screw in this corner so i'm going to go ahead and do that and it comes
with this little tool which is actually pretty cool vesselcase.com and i hope yes i did i
put the screw there so it comes with its own uh there its own little like socket thing
and then it's got a little cap on it and i guess you could store that on your keychain
if you felt like you might need to take your case off your phone very frequently all right
like are these like premium bumpers becoming more popular because i have to confess i was
not really bumpers are only really an iphone thing right i think so yeah so i have no idea
right not a clue let's see if i can do this i'm having trouble now of course i have trouble
when i try and do it on camera it's like murphy's freaking law right this is a really weird
way to film something dang murphy yeah anyway so i was like yeah this seems pretty cool
but i gotta say i wasn't that impressed with the price this thing is a hundred and twenty
sorry hundred twenty hold on hold on it gets my first guess before you even started saying
it prices it's 138 euros euros oh no that's okay that's a lot worse yeah so i mean it's
nice so there you go that's what it looks like i've got a dbrand case on here and it
actually does fit even with the vinyl case although i'm sure they'd probably prefer if
you if you kind of kept it clean clean metal on the back for the looks so i told them i
would install it on the phone and i would show it on the show but that i wasn't going
to review it because if i was going to review it then i would have to bring up that you're
spending 160 dollars for a bumper case that effectively doesn't actually provide protection
for your phone 138 yeah 138 euros with that said the protection for the phone isn't that
bad because what they've done is they've got a bit of a lip on it here so this lens is
never going to sit face down on things anymore yeah which is a problem that i have with the
iphone 6 and then if you have a vinyl wrap back here and you throw some phantom glass
on the front then aside from that you've just spent like 200 dollars the phone is actually
reasonably well protected and uh let's just go ahead and remove that the phone will then
be reasonably well protected but you've just spent like 200 dollars on like a combo case
for your phone with the dbrand skin phantom glass front and like a uh buy a whole other
phone we're gonna get into the motherboards territory there you're just like protecting
your phone when you could just buy another one at that point yeah not quite but i mean
the button pass throughs are good and this is one of the few cases i've encountered that
actually allows you to use the mute toggle um as a pass through rather than just kind
of reaching through something so i'll give them that like it's it's nice but uh i don't
think that's the kind of thing that i would spend my own money on right yes so there you
go i think that's pretty much it for everything that i wanted to talk about on the show today
i just wanted to do like a quick glance through to see if there was anything else but i think
that was it there's that lamp that lasts for 40 years yeah but it costs how much two grand
two grand okay i can rather replace my light bulb every once in a while yeah especially
because we've already got led bulbs that cost like 10 bucks or 20 bucks and last for also
lots of years maybe not 40 years and like by the time that led light bulb finally dies
there like might be something new and better and also a version of that which will also
be cheap yeah so here guys i'll pull up the article for that just for amusement more than
anything else so jake dyson has designed an led light that lasts for 40 years um the light
is called ariel the light is called ariel scroll done i was hoping to have something
else to say about it it has a massive freaking heat sink yep but that's common with led light
bulbs like i installed led lighting big in okay i installed led lights in my son's room
and they should have probably had bigger heat sinks because those things ran freaking hot
so aside from needing to redo the dimmer switch to one that's led dimmable led compatible
i put two of them in a fixture those things give off a ton of heat like it's actually
kind of scary right yeah um right and then one other thing that i wanted to do was a
call out for uh someone who's been helping us out a lot on the wan show lately um both
ghost yeah and fighter luid who has been doing the time stamps on the wan show pretty much
um alone according to ghost who coordinates fighter luid doing the time stamps and submits
them to me so that luke and i don't have to sit and watch the show and uh kind of go go
through that on our own go watch the show that we just hosted which is kind of kind
of sucky yet so hearing yourself talk for an hour and a half is like not great so we
we crushed it you guys we had 8 600 viewers which we've never had on the show before you
guys are amazing thank you so much for tuning in and we'll see you guys again next week
i think we're gonna do a very short after party tonight yeah but other than that it's
packing time we're heading to see yes yes totally unprepared although i did shop tomorrow
i already did i need shirts i got some yeah i don't have enough pants i don't want to
know about your sexual exploits oh i see how you did that although if the shirts helped
then maybe you should tell me what shirts you were getting the shirts did not help actually
i didn't wear any of them for that well you're not supposed to wear a shirt during that i
mean how else are you supposed to show off your sexy six pack you would potentially wear
a shirt in programming before right when you're still working on yeah the objective yeah and
that's when your shirts never helped me just when they're awesome yeah but i could put
that on a squarespace site and then you could look at it on your phone and protect your
phone with glass