Yeah, and you can really see this like epic dent I have on my nose right now because uh
I actually don't remember if it's from james dropping a sound bar on my face or if it was from something else
But like I got hit in the face
Okay, so because don't sound bars usually get mounted low
No, no, no, I mean he was holding it and dropped it on my face
Why okay, so I will admit that this was at least partially my fault and i'm not like i'm not victim blaming you know
Well, I provoked him
You know, I wore clothes that made it look like I wanted a soundbar
I should have known that when he gets a sound bar in his hands, you know, I better steer clear
Um, so i'm not i'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that it was actually
A coordinated effort to capture a shot
That okay. I actually was at least
Of a soundbar falling through the air like what the soundbar was supposed to fall into my hands
Okay, so the idea was because it was difficult with the framing of the shot for james to just
Like I mean so imagine this i'm sitting here hosting a video to you right now and I want a soundbar to fall in my hands
I want a soundbar to fall in my hands. He can't just stand right there because then his butt's taking up the whole frame
So he's he's standing like kind of behind me and like off to the side
And it's kind of hard to hold this thing and it's also hard for him to eyeball
Where exactly is down?
Now, I think it was a team fail. Um
Over killington says your nose is really big, huh?
Uh, yeah, so it's funny, uh, you know, i'm gonna tell a different story now because I remember having this conversation
Uh with my mother at one point when I was in high school
and um, I said something something something yeah, I uh,
I I took the picture this way like from the front because
From the side you can tell I have a really big nose and she goes you don't have a big nose and I go
Yeah, I do and she goes no. No, that's not true. And I go. All right, watch
And she goes wow, you've got a really big nose. I went. Yes. I know. Thank you
I I told you I have a big nose. I don't need you to inform me. I have a big nose
I'm well aware of the situation. That's amazing. Anyway, so back to the back to the soundbar fail
So James is holding this soundbar above me and it's kind of hard for him to line it up in his defense
He also didn't do an amazing job
Okay, so the idea was i'm leaning forward i'm talking about this other soundbar and then i'm supposed to kind of lean back
And another soundbar is supposed to fall into my hands
Now I also didn't lean back as far as I could have because I was a little bit concerned about leaning out of the focus of
the
The camera and it and like when you're trying to pull off like a like a coordinated shot
Like, you know when you do the like here, um
Uh, uh, uh here here here madrina's is one of our sponsors today
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Boom, like when you're trying to pull off the like the no look like, uh, yeah, we got that we didn't even look
Uh, well, sometimes you don't look
And you get hit in the face with a soundbar
So it hit you like on the nose so yeah, so it came down like this so it was really
So it came down like this. So it was really close. So yeah, so I did well
it wasn't that close because um as I as I outlined before the and I had a conversation with my mother once about this
Something could hit me in the nose and really not be that close to my face
Okay, your nose isn't that big dude it's big enough that I remember having it's not a small nose, okay
I remember having a conversation with my wife about this once where um, I was saying like, oh, yeah
Like my my face is gross right now
I've got like these breakouts and she's she's got far worse breakouts than I do like as a general rule. Uh
No, like she doesn't her skin's not as good as mine
Most people don't say that about their it's their spouse. Yeah, you know what? It's good to okay
Linus relationship tips for a moment here
It's good to have a relationship where you can be honest with each other because see but this isn't being honest with each other
This is being honest with like hundreds of thousands of people. I'd tell her that to her face. No, I know
Yeah, but you're also broadcasting it to them. I guess so. I mean, but they have eyes, you know, it's not like she's
Like like why do we deny reality?
Reality is important. Oh, so anyway, I was having so I was so I was complaining about it and she's basically like
You know cut your whining because your skin's overall pretty good and i'm like well
No, the thing that's so frustrating about it is that I can see it and she goes, what do you mean and I go well
It's on my nose
And she goes what you can see your nose. I'm like, yes
My nose takes up a significant portion of my field of view really?
Yeah, like I can like I can I can so okay so I can see
Let's let's go with my right. Uh, okay with my right eye. I can see all the way to the very edge of that light
Okay, okay. So where my nose sticks out I can see about to the mic stand
So like, you know the effect where you hold your finger in front of you and you can see through both of the two images
Okay, well I have that too like I think everyone can see their nose if they try to see no because she's chinese
So she has a flatter face. So yeah, her eyes are more fried. She can't see her nose is her nose is small
Yeah, like maybe a little
Little but but not as okay not nearly to the same degree
But with both eyes open if you're not thinking about it, you don't generally see your nose. No, but if there's a red mark
Like right here, it makes it a little it's really noticeable. Okay, it's like really noticeable
Yeah, people are like racist. No, no physiology is not racist
it just
Is what it is. I I don't I don't make the rules
Um, all right speaking of making the rules. Let's go through uh some topics. What do we got today? Yeah. Yeah, uh intel
Ice lake more delays delay till 2020 is intel. I don't know if this is more delays or a clarification on a previous
I don't know if it's more delays on ice lake necessarily
But intel has definitely delayed some stuff over the last couple of years. No, but yeah
Yeah, that's what i'm saying. I think this delay has already been like realized right and we're being like, okay
This is the date that it's actually coming. We knew it was delayed. Their stock dropped seven percent today, I think
Meanwhile, AMD's picked up I think seventeen percent yesterday speaking of the next topic AMD reports best quarterly profit in seven years
which to be clear when your best quarterly profit like
Really only has to be like profitable, you know, it's
It's good though. It's good news. It's good news
Uh, there's a rumor, uh nvidia next gen card details apparently leaking
so jen jensen did go up on stage saying there's no new gaming graphics cards coming but uh
Usually when the leaks start coming this hard and miss heavy
That's an indication that what he said might have been a big fat
Um, what's the word? That is not no. No, I don't want to be disparaging
Uh a big fat statement that wasn't entirely based on
Facts, given that he's the ceo and he knows what's going on. Presumably. Yeah
And have I allegedly?
Yeah, as long as you're throwing an allegedly I actually didn't realize that stephen
Colbert has been doing the allegedly thing like years before I started doing it. Oh, really?
I thought that was our joke. So did I yeah, he does allegedly like all the time. I don't have which is fine
HBO i'm actually okay with coming up with the same joke as colbert and his writing staff because they're sort of professionals
sort of professionals and they have a very large writing staff. Yeah
Uh, I think that's all we need to call out. Yeah. Oh, let's roll the intro. Boom. Oh, where is it? Boom
Yeah
Give me some
Where's not hbo whoops. Yeah. No, he's uh, yes
That's okay. It seemed it seemed like an insignificant
I don't have whatever it is. It seems kind of uh, it seems like one of those you must be fun at parties
Actually, um, actually it's new plus linux or i've as i've been called whatever new slide
You saw you saw yeah, sorry. Good news. You saw windows. Actually. No, I actually haven't yet. It's open on my computer
I haven't been able to watch it yet. Oh, no, he pulls in so busy. We actually like scripted in a well, actually
That's and he like explains the whole gnu plus linux blah blah blah thing. It's it's it's pretty great
And the funny thing is like there's gonna be linux fanboys out there that i'm like, yeah, you tell them wendell
but
Those are the same kinds of people that proudly refer to themselves as pc master race not realizing that that
Yeah, whole thing was a um
Was supposed to be a jab
At the people who feel that like that's the whole origin of it was that it was like a uh, oh man
The word's failing me escape escape. No, no, no not sarcastic not not
Oh, I thought you were trying to say what the source was not facetious. No, i'm just i'm just trying to figure out what the
Satire. Yeah, it was supposed to be a satirical thing. Like you were being made fun of
Um, so so anyone who was like, yeah, you tell them wendell you were actually the butt of the joke
I mean, we actually talked about this while he was down here
Just like the biggest problem with linux in a lot of ways
I love this is the second time that I have heard about you
Independently having a conversation with him that mirrors an exact conversation that I had with him separately without
So he just happily went along with that happening twice so funny
so funny
like the biggest problem is that
When you love something so much and that's what a lot of the linux community does they love linux so much
Definitely and to be clear linux is a good thing. It's a good thing to love
But when you love it so much that you can't see the flaws
Then that's where you start to make it hard for other people to share your love. Yeah, like he was installing something and I was like
so
no one's gonna put me in charge of linux because
No one is strictly speaking in charge of linux. Um
No one's gonna put me in charge
But if I was in charge this whole nonsense where you go on like a github page
Copy a string of text and then paste that into like a terminal prompt to install software
That's gotta go
That's super gotta go
Like how is this? It's the year is 2018 the year is 2018. This is
A graphical operating system for a lot of things. There are more mainstream alternatives to that
Yeah, there is like an app store style thing
on
Many of the distros and you can install them because it's linux
If you're on a distro that doesn't natively have it. I mean even the whole thing with there being so many different distros
So if you're trying to I mean this is something that uh, I was talking to one of the writers about in my office
We were uh, we were reviewing a script and we were just chatting about how frustrating it is
To have to deal with product names that are all either very similar or the same
So when you're trying to find information on a on like the macbook
Like the 20, I guess it was a 2015
So if you don't oh, yeah, if you don't know to search for 2015
macbook
Non-air or like whatever or like as a search provider don't like if you're google and you're trying to figure out
What?
MacBook someone is looking for a pretty good job. They do a pretty good job
But if they're trying to find like a fix for a weird bug or if they're trying to find something like a teardown or an
Upgrade guide or or a replacement part or something stupid like that
How difficult that makes life? I mean
To the average person and I feel like that's another thing that a lot of the very techie community loses
track of to the average person
There is no awareness whatsoever that linux is anything other than linux. They don't know arch devian
Sento, like they don't know any of that stuff. It's just linux
So if you were to try to search how to install program in linux, we should try it. Let's let's do it right now
How to install program in linux i'm going to assume that there's going to be like alternate stuff. All right here
Let's hold on the screen show. Let's have the experience together bracket link
Bracket mint beginning which is pretty good. A lot of people will be running that let's get let's give it a shot beginner geek
How to install software on linux works differently instead of visiting a website
You'll usually need to grab the software from your linux distribution software repositories with its package manager. I'm already dead
If I know if i'm an average user i'm already like, okay, i'm done
Because you but realistically that is saying like it's actually quite easy you're going to use the like app story kind of thing. Yes
It's just like it's called package manager. So people are automatically gone
That's where you lose them from install software from your distributions repositories
Ah, I mean the the reality of it is is like we we we live in this sort of this bubble where we just kind of
Go well people should just people should just learn the lingo
But it's funny because whenever you try it try stepping outside of your usual comfort zone, which might be tech
And go to a hardware store and shop for a tool
Or go to a makeup store and shop for a tool
There's going to be the the guys that know all the hardware stuff and are in this space and there's going to be the people that
Know all the I should have said people for both. I'm, sorry. Don't don't be mad. Uh, the the people 2018
Honest mistake
Sorry, I don't current current year everyone the current year thing. Oh, right. Oh, geez. Oh, geez
We're old and see the problem is that we're just used to
Old dogs means nothing just uh, old dogs. Can't learn new tricks. I I've tried to say like five words and we've been here for a minute
I'm so sorry
Okay, the the people that know both of those camps are gonna jump into chat and be like, but I know both right
But my point was to pick something that you don't know
Yeah, you know walk into a town and you're like, oh, I know both of those camps
To pick something you don't that you don't know. Yeah, you know walk into a textiles store
Like uh, I don't know
fabricana or something
And and you know what what you'll find is that quickly it becomes like 17 different words for plaid because they're technically
A little bit different and that kind of stuff is actually not that simple
or
necessarily good use of your time to learn when all you need that piece of fabric for
Is to make a makeshift tablecloth. Yeah, you know you don't really care in that
So if if all you really care about doing on your computer is reading your email
You actually will never care what a distribution repository is and you will never care that you don't care and you know what?
That's actually fine because everybody has different interests, you know
There are actually i'm not going to get into like, you know all the different words to describe wine because I could
That would probably become a different conversation
But look up look up, uh, two buck chuck winning the blind wine taste test competition because that is a hilarious
thing that happened
Have you heard about this whole story? I think you've told me about it
In fact, I think you've told me on wan show
But probably we can we can we can let people we can let people tell us whether they want to hear it again or not
Yeah, yeah
Um, it's great. You can you know what do the tldr do the tldr
So the the tldr was there was a blind taste testing thing
I don't remember if the people doing it were were people who were trying to become
Like wine reviewer people or if they were already wine reviewer people
And they had a whole bunch of different values of wines and two buck chuck is you guessed it a two dollar bottle of wine
and it won the competition because
Because wine is bs
basically
Oh, man in my in my opinion and apparently the blind taste test seems to agree with me
But I have heard from some wine people that there's also examples of the other way. So I don't know who knows
um
Oh someone wants to know where to get my water bottle
Because it's huge amazon
It's actually not that big but it's one of the vacuum what you need to do is just write
Linus tech tips on it in black in all black and then just sell them
We totally should accept that by the time we marked these up even like enough to cover
receiving them
Labeling them and then shipping them back out the door. They'd be like 60 water bottles
I don't remember how much this one was. It's like it's like 25 bucks or something like that 25 or 30 because it's vacuum sealed
It's big. It's got a nice wide mouth. It's uh,
stainless
Um, yeah, actually i'm very satisfied with this water bottle would happily endorse 10 out of 10 imagine this
This type of like print in black like all around the ball
That actually looked pretty cool with like one little bit that just has like a safe zone around it
Oh, we're working on some stuff. Have you seen the new uh, the new concept for a new hoodie?
No, but that's exciting. Yeah
um, it's
Okay
Matter like a lot more. I want to get float plane hoodies. So, okay. It's not um, not not
It's not like it's not like the wan hoodie
Like it's not necessarily a tech hoodie. That's fine
But it's way more modern in terms of like the design it
What?
Who cares if it's not final oh wow, okay, so a
Why are you whining about this nick? I'm talking to nick up there
He can hear me because he's streaming and b why are you watching the wan show at work? Okay
Do we watch podcasts while we're supposed to be working nick?
Yeah, that's what I thought
Um, all right, so let's I will I will respect his wishes at least until such time as he has provided me with a very
Compelling reason why uh, why why I should why I should listen to him ds ds r
ds rt
Fx geez man your name, uh says then instead of calling it a package manager literally just call it the app store or the windows
Store or the windows store. It's the same thing. That's the point. Yeah, but you can't do that
Yeah, because like if you start calling your app store the app store apple is going to be down your throat and up your butt
At the same time with their entire legal team, but like you could call it something that would make sense and would be fine
But they won't yeah, and the other thing too is that it takes
And it will probably hurt the linux culture like people won't like it and it actually takes a lot of uh
it takes a lot of branding it takes a lot of actual marketing to get people to to
Get comfortable with something like the number of times that people have to hear
App store to suddenly have that be like that's the friendly sounding version instead of you know
Application marketplace or whatever you have to shorten that you go app marketplace when google changed or app market when google changed to play store
Yeah, uh, what was it called android market before?
I had something like that. That was a big deal with the change. Yeah
And and the stupid thing about it the stupid thing about it is here I am giving the tech community a hard time
about not being
accepting of friendlier ways of naming things and doing things but I had the
Exact same reaction when google called it the play store. I was like mad
I was like, okay, what was wrong with the way they did it before? I don't I don't play an app if it's not a game
That was seriously, I got pretty almost word for word. That was what I said. Okay, to be fair
I literally remember this because we were both really angry about it
And I think at that point in time what we were angry about was that I think we thought it was like just for games
basically
Because it was actually kind of confusing when it first came out right so it had but it had apps at the time
Yeah, the things that they didn't have yet was the the deep collection of movie
and music and tv show content that now in
hindsight
Almost makes it look like google knew what they were doing with a branding thing
But i'm afraid to i'm afraid to be too sure to give them that i'm afraid. Yeah, because I don't know
I don't know. Um app store int. Oh jeez. Oh people are giving us suggestions the app store with a zero
Yeah, I know right
Um the hack store. No, no portal. No the get app and go
Okay, this is the problem with letting like when you let software engineers name things
Get stores. That's that doesn't help. That doesn't help at all
Oh
The apt store is not gonna make it better the pseudo store that no, yeah
Well, it would be sudou. It's okay. Actually, okay, you're more you're more in tune with the linux community than me
It's super user do but is it sudou or pseudo? Do you pronounce it the way it said?
A lot of people say pseudo, but I think but isn't that short for pseudo fed?
Like isn't that a problem?
But it's it doesn't matter with the like a lot of people it is sudou
But a lot of people say pseudo pseudo like I say pseudo, but it's sudou. Okay, so this is this is similar to the gif argument
I think a little bit less so because that's just completely bs
And this one is like it actually makes sense. I don't know if you don't say
I don't know. I mean this uh, this show right now has pretty good draft fix right now
That's what I mean. Like you don't say it that way. That's so dumb. That makes no sense at all
But it is actually super user do so that makes sense. It's just kind of nicer to say pseudo. We've got people
Who's that? Who's this?
Um, oh i'm out of me. I can't read that. It's pronounced heff
Sure
We should just go with if it's got a silent g I mean we'll follow the same rules that like modern traffic store
That's what they should modern parents right because it's just like no my son's name is steve and it's spelled
It's got like a silent j in it or whatever and you're just like
You know steve already had a perfect i'm sure i'm offending someone right now
But it's like he is like a delta symbol steve already had a perfectly good spelling that everyone fully understood
And was familiar with like you did not have to reinvent the wheel. It's not one of those names like
Uh, like linus where no one knows how to spell it in spite of the fact that it is 100 perfect phonetically
It's just people spell that wrong. I have literally had my name spelled
In front of me while i'm watching I don't correct it because I don't care
Li-o-n-e-s-s
And i'm just like
Is that a thing that makes any sense?
Lioness, oh wait an eye like a lion
Oh lioness. I didn't hear the eye. I thought it was lon in their defense. I like lonus
I've had l-i-n-i-s, which could somewhat be justified. I've had l-i-n-a-s line ass
Okay, yeah line ass. Wow, but um
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I I forget where I was going geez
I so some people I worry with my first name sometimes when I was younger. It happened a lot more often
It doesn't happen very often now, but if I was in quebec or something would happen all the time. Oh l-u-c
Yeah, because your last name is french. I might get it. I might guess if anyone spells it l-u-c
It's not their fault even remotely
Like I would expect more people to do it that way because of my last name. It just doesn't happen that often line ass tech tips
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Yeah, um
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I actually i'm not caught up right now
I know neither am I I know i'm halfway through the second episode
So i've been traveling and the waifu and I like want to get the popcorn and watch it together. So between between
I mean the craziness that has been going on in terms of like work stuff at float plane lately because there's fun things happening
And wedding this weekend. It's been like
Oh, yeah, we'll watch it. Aren't you like the best man and stuff? I am
And I have a giant sword. It's awesome
Like actual though like it's made out of steel and stuff for what um, is it like a spoiler if you tell me or
It's a little bit, but I doubt anyone that's gonna there's there's like, okay
So my parents already understand it and the only other person that I know of that's going to be there
That's going to watch this already knows the whole thing. So best man is a bit of a truncation
It used to be best swordsman
Really? And the idea was that the best swordsman wasn't it wasn't your best friend
It was the best person in your circle of people
At utilizing a sword and it was for very practical reasons because back then you used to more or less
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Or
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Back in the day, you know how there's the ceremony and then there's a reception
There's there's actually quite a bit to it. But you know how there's a ceremony and then the reception
This is just kind of a funny part during the reception the bride and the groom would go off to
Consummate the marriage and they would come back and then everyone would have dinner. It's not really how that works anymore
I mean you could probably pull it off like technically a lot of people go off to do a photo shoot that photo shoot could be
Very naked it could it could it definitely could. Yep. It's just not generally done anymore
Yeah, yeah, but at that time the best man
Doesn't hang out with the other people
The best man goes with the bride and groom but not into the room. He stands guard outside the door
You don't have to do that. You're in a good. No, okay. That's good. The whole thing is more there as like a joke
yes, it would be um, but yeah, you stand guard outside the door because until they've
Completed the the consummation the the marriage isn't final. So someone might try to come and steal the bride before that happens
So you have to stand outside the door and guard them
There's a lot there's a lot more to it if you want to go down a really weird path a very funny path of history
You can look it up
But i'm bringing a sword kind of as a joke. It's not like a super serious thing
Yeah, got it. Thank you for that. That was uh,
Both disturbing and enlightening. I appreciate it
All right
So let's do a tech topic then uh, cj09 beera posted this on the forum
The original article is from overclock3d.net but it looks like intel may
Have delayed
10 nanometer ice lake until uh, what 2020 wow
Dang, I think it's 2020 for server. And I thought it was 2019 for consumer
Something along those lines here. Yeah, we can have we can have a look at this here
So someone in the chat said swords are heavy luke. Yeah, it's also um
If it's on the ground it goes up to here on me
Really? It's it's andoril
It's the reforge sword. It's aragon's blade from lord of the rings. Of course it is. Hey
Yeah, and it's like full steel tang throughout the entire thing. It's not like you could sharpen it and it would be very very real
It's not sharp though. Okay
It's freaking sweet
Anyways
so, um
We're not getting ice lake and okay, whatever we're not getting ice like until sometime
In 2020 I guess is the point
So intel has already acknowledged oops intel has already acknowledged that they're going to lose some server market share to
Amd and their epic architecture or their epic processors based on their zen architecture
But this is looking pretty
Pretty bad this gives amd like a full looks like over two years
To steel market share
From intel and in the server space if amd had a performance or a cost advantage or even
a significant technological advantage for let's say
six months or even 18 months
Intel probably wouldn't care because what a lot of consumers don't realize is that the lead times on this kind of
Technology these kinds of products and the development products are going to be the same
This kind of technology these kinds of products and the development process is very long
So if intel had a product that they were shipping, let's say today right now mid-2018
That was serving the needs of their customers reasonably well and amd launched some kind of disruptive technology today
Intel is already working on like they wouldn't have a roadmap for these processors if they weren't doing work on them
So they're already working on the tech that they're planning to launch in 2020
Yeah, now if amd's compelling performance advantage
Um got you know it departments or sys admins or uh, supercomputer architects got them looking at it and intel could say
Hold on, you know, we're we're working on something by 2020. We'll be ready
Um here we'll get you some stuff early so that you can make sure that you know, you're not delaying your project too much
Um and specs, you know how much heat you're gonna have to deal with
You can build out all that other stuff buy the cpus at the last minute. We'll have volume ramped up by that time
Something like 18 months for a project like that wouldn't be an unreasonable amount of time to ask someone to wait
The problem is that amd launched zen what a year ago. It's been a while. It's been a while
Amd launches and I think it was about a year ago
so now
Amd is in a position where they have a compelling offering not just for a short period of time
but for a long enough period of time that
The managers or the procurement officers or whoever's working on sourcing slightly over a year for their server hardware
Has had a while to look at it see some smaller deployments go out in the field
And start to build out a new large project around it. And then now that intel's announcing remember we're a year into this
That there are going to be delays
Well now they're starting to look
You know unreliable whereas amd has been hitting their targets now to be clear epic's not perfect
Uh, it does have some issues virtualization on amd zen architecture was a big problem, especially right at the beginning but
Intel has its issues too
And those are the kinds of things that on a project by project basis depending on what you're doing with the systems
Might make you lean towards one or the other
The big thing here is that amd looks like a legitimate
option
And looks like they've got enough of a road map that
You might want to start planning long term around them. So that
Is
Really bad news because while intel might be
Pretty happy to collect, you know, three hundred and twenty nine ninety nine u.s
From consumers for a core i7. They would much rather take thirty two ninety nine
99
From businesses for large orders of many xeons shipped on pallets for
You know large deployments. That's that's better business
So even though it's smaller in terms of per unit sales
it is much larger in terms of the profitability because the difference in cost between consumer silicon and
Consumer silicon and a commercial silicon is not as high as you might think
Interesting
Um in other news this was posted by sc2 mitch on the forum and the original article here is actually from amd themselves
bam
intel news release
Amd report second quarter 2018 financial results revenue increased 53 year over year and gross margin expanded
To 37 that means amd is actually selling products
Profitably, uh, we we actually I don't know if we know how much of this
um
Was buoyed up by the the mining craze, uh that has really slowed down significantly now. Yeah, so, uh
Uh
Their net income for this reported quarter was 116 million dollars. The prior quarter was 81 million dollars
That's both of those are really really really great compared to where they're at a year ago
Which is where they had a net loss of 42 million dollars
So if you consider the fact that they were negative 42 before
They're like 116. They're almost
Yeah, they're they're almost at over 150 million more than they would have been. Yeah, I mean like it's it's actually quite quite impressive
So dr. Su released a statement. Um, we had an outstanding second quarter strong revenue growth margin expansion and our highest quarterly net income in seven years
that's uh, that's like ceo speak for
We made something people wanted to buy. Oh, yes. We didn't have to slash pricing to get people to buy it. This is great
Um, most importantly we believe our long-term technology bets position us very well in the future
We are confident that with the continued execution of our product roadmaps
We're on an excellent trajectory to drive market share gains and profitable growth
So if AMD manages to make their fabulous strategy successful, um Intel
Samsung
I'm trying to think of who else will actually be left who does both chip intellectual property
Both chip intellectual property. Oh and actual manufacturing. I thought you were just trying to list say, uh fabs and I was like
There's quite a few no versus focusing on fabs like a global foundries or a tsmc
Or focusing entirely on ip like someone like arm arm doesn't build their own processors. But of course they are doing
Super duper well in the mobile age of of low power devices
Uh, thanks to licensing their their designs to other brands like qualcomm for example to produce processors
At an actual fab so qualcomm doesn't actually fabricate anything either nvidia doesn't fabricate anything. You've got some of the world's most successful
Semiconductor companies that don't actually manufacture semiconductors. Yeah, does micron still make ssd's?
Um, so micron is in a partnership with intel and they do nand flash
But uh, I don't believe micron would actually produce the cpus. So that's
sort of different
I would say dram and nan flash manufacturing are kind of separate from ic manufacturing. Yeah
um
Just because and i'm i'm just basing that on that. I don't think there's anyone other than intel that actually does both
No, samsung samsung as well
So intel and samsung are in both games, but as far as I know they're the only ones that are left in both
Crazy, it's actually quite different compared to like 10 years ago
Nvidia's next gen card details. So this was posted by atlas wraith on the forum and sources of course wccf tax
So yes, it's a rumor
But they're saying it's an exclusive rumor
Oh, man, they've got one of the star wars edition cards that looks like is that the yeah
Yeah, one of the star wars edition cards. They're just using that as a placeholder. That is not
Probably what the card will look like. Is that why you're questioning if it was star wars or not?
Oh, I just uh, no I was looking at um
I was looking at this here and I couldn't remember if that was what it looked like. But then I saw the
Is the the kind of looks like rebel alliance, but technically it's the whatever
The jedi order or something. That was so stupid that whole thing galactic empire and then jedi order
Even though they never I I did like a whole I did like a whole thing
I pulled people into the boardroom and I got like a slide up and I was I was yelling about it
It was it was kind of a bit for a video
uh, but it was something that like the inspiration for it came from
So so I get up and i'm like, okay, so here's the timeline. All right, here's where the jedi order exists
Here's where the galactic empire exists and we've got about a sliver of overlap where you could
Arguably say that they both existed but they're never in direct conflict with each other. None of this makes any sense
Why are these the two teams who even knows what the jedi order is?
From a mainstream standpoint who knows what this is?
So so I kind of go off about it and the inspiration
Was that um, I was I was working on a script with someone about something
Okay, and I went off into a tangent about this and they're like, this is hilarious. We should just work this into the video
Um, you know linus so a month ago, uh the writer here usman prasada
Uh, and oh, there's another co-writer co-writer hassan
Mujtaba, I did my best
Uh talked about how aibs would be seated with nvidia's next generation graphics cards probably based on the touring architecture sometime in late august
Um, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Let's not try and read the article. Let's look at our notes provided by james instead
Also one random, uh, sorry star wars thing they're uh relaunching the clone wars animated series
And we talked about it last week and I I said on the show I was like luke's gonna be so disappointed that he's not here
And so disappointed that they're just like wrapping it up as a fan service thing. Yep
Right, so not only are they just wrapping it up, but I am both excited and scared as freaking heck
Because I have not enjoyed the new star wars stuff under disney. So like oh geez
And then none of that was disney. They axed clone wars immediately when they bought it
They axed it part way through a season like you can actually find you can you can get the lost episodes
I'm, not gonna talk about this for too long. I swear you get the lost episodes, which is like a few of the completed ones
From that season and then you can also find the art and some of the scripts
For the episodes that they like didn't really properly do it all you can find like unanimated scenes and stuff
I'm, like if I was the the clone wars team
And disney came to me and was like, yeah, so we want to like close it out, but like
Here's how we're doing it
What are the odds that assuming that you have found work elsewhere because it's been a while now
Well, i'm here now so assuming you found work elsewhere. What are the odds that you just drop what you're doing?
And you come back
Yes disney, I I will come in and I will I will do it your way like I I gotta I gotta imagine that
It's going to be a slightly different team working on this. I okay, so I don't know what you're doing
I okay, so I don't know this. This is an assumption that i'm based. I have no source for this
I'm extremely unsure. This is beyond rumor, but I think the cone wars team moved on to rebels
Okay, and then rebel the reason why rebels feel so different is because rebels has a lower target audience
Not because it's necessarily a different team, but I could be completely wrong about that
so
Aggressively don't quote me on that. But I think they might have at least the core people still around
All right. So here's what's going on with nvidia's new lineup
Wow
This could actually be very bad news
So they are apparently they haven't decided on the naming which might not seem like it matters that much because ultimately who cares is about fps
But as a general rule, it's not a terrible idea
When you create a product to have the name kind of make sense, um
um
and with a graphics card really the main thing that we expect a name to tell us is
Where does its performance fall in relation to other cards?
So apparently they are actively considering suffixes like xxx
five
for example
gtx
1175 yeah, um
or gtx
2070 or 2075 now that alone doesn't sound like that big of a deal
Unless the kinds of suffixes they're considering are like 10 something five
Where it's possible that we might get gpu's that don't actually perform that dramatically different from this gen now, I don't think they would do that
But like they've done that sort of thing before like the 275 launched way after the 260 and 280
Yeah, but that was similar architecturally. I don't see them launching a new architecture without giving it a clear new series
But if they used numbers that kind of seemed like it positioned them between older cards
I don't know if it would uh
I don't know if it would surprise me that much either because you got to remember if
Nvidia holds true to the pattern that has been true since the gtx 680 we are not getting big touring
At the initial launch we are getting mid-sized touring. So
a gtx, uh
1080 ti is a very different card from a 1080
They they are they are they are more different than a 1080 and a 1070 are that's the way it works now
1080 ti is a big chip and 1080 and 1070 are both
Step down mid-sized chips. So we are getting the new generation mid chip, which
I don't know may or may not actually perform any better than last gen big chip
we're gonna actually make a
uh compensator
I don't know if we get a new big chip
Because we we kind of skipped three
Sort of didn't we sort of I think so there wasn't a usually there's like a very opportune moment
Well, there's no four-way sli anymore. Yeah, so that doesn't help. Yeah
Well, like isn't there for specifically benchmarking reasons. I always hate it when people do that though. Maybe but it's really dumb stupid
So it's not as cool
Apparently we'll initially have three power brackets
120 watt 150 watt and 180 watt and what's interesting about that is nvidia has over the last
Several years anyway
Gone with a staggered rollout for their new lineup
Oh that piece was a little spicier. Oh, i'm fine
I'm fine. The sweet sriracha. Yeah, that piece was a little bit on the spicier side. Hmm. It's good though, actually
Um, so they've gone with a very staggered rollout. So they've gone like, okay, here's the high end then they're like wait a couple months
Okay, here's the next one. Wait a couple minutes. Here's the next one that allows them to kind of stretch out their pr coverage
Um, yeah keeps people from kind of getting bored of like this wave of gpu news
Gives us more stuff to talk about and then nothing for two years, you know, yeah, um
But what this sounds like is that at 120 150 180 watt they might be doing a broader refresh
And the reason for doing that might be that amd is actually relatively competitive at the 120 watt tdp range
So they might want to just go you know what forget it. Let's just go
And make life very very difficult for our one competitor in the space all in one go
Very interesting
It is rumored that 1080 ti msrp will drop by a hundred dollars and 1080 msrp will drop by 50 bucks
This is also a solid indication that the upcoming
1180 and 1170 i'm just using those as placeholders
um
Don't really perform that amazingly differently than the ones that they are replacing. Yeah
We'll see
But potential price drops on 1080 ti and 1080. Yeah, that's never a bad thing which happens pretty much every time
It is never a bad thing. We actually filmed our macbook pro 2018 video today
um, so there's going to be more detail about this than that, but
It looks like the throttling for the macbook pro has been fixed in macos
So it came as an update to high sierra 10.13.6
And they have issued an apology to consumers who experienced less than optimal performance on their new 2018 machines
um
Now they said that this was a firmware patch missing the digital key issued with this update but anthony's testing
Shows no performance change in windows
After downloading and installing this so it seems like it didn't actually make any changes to firmware
And we'll talk in a little bit more detail about that in our mac video
Oh facebook facebook stock crashed harder than any stock has ever crashed before
This is posted by sc2 mitch on the forum
They were apparently sued today over a disappointing earnings announcement
Okay, I didn't know about that. Wow, but it resulted in the loss of 120 billion dollars of shareholder wealth
Making it the biggest one-day loss in us market history
Apparently zuckerberg went down like two spots on the world's richest list or something. Really? Yeah
um, you heard of okay, this is
I do not recommend going there
Um, I would never recommend going there and it takes a a bit of uh, willingness to read
terrible horrible things
Uh to be able to go there, but there is a subreddit called wall street bets
And it's it's based around
Like all all stock investments is essentially betting right? But this is based around like hardcore
hardcore betting and their idea isn't like i'm gonna invest so I can have a good a good life leading forward their idea is
Like i'm gonna yolo so that hopefully I either get a yacht or nothing
And like some dude is 20 and made like five hundred thousand dollars off shorting facebook
And he posted about it there. There's also a dude who
Had a 50, I think it was a 55 000 dollar portfolio and it went down to 1.2 grand because of this
It's a really interesting read right now. Just fair warning. It gets pretty brutal in the in the comments and stuff
So just if you have a weak stomach for people being being vicious don't go there
But it's really interesting seeing people who bet super hard on stocks and then something like this happens and just seeing what happens
What happens people losing their entire savings?
people being completely set up for the entire rest of their life just like
it's every single thread is like
So it's like a live stream of the high roller, you know, uh roulette table. Yeah, pretty much it's crazy
It's a very crazy. Uh, yeah
Here's a rumor. This was posted by aluminum tech on the forum and the original source is nine to five. Google
Fortnite is coming to android but it is rumored that it will be a samsung galaxy note 9 exclusive
What at first?
They must have paid so much for that
So apparently it's going to be uh, so the uh note 9 which is set to be announced on the 9th of august
With pre-orders on august 14th and public availability on august 24th
Looks like it's going to have fortnite exclusively for a month and there was a thread about this on the forum where people are like
Oh, what are they? You know, are they stupid? They think people are going to buy a phone just over a game. Uh, yeah
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's like people are criticizing samsung. Okay, you can criticize samsung all you want
But they're saying that samsung is stupid for doing this no and depending how much they paid which I don't know
Depending how much they paid this might be actually brilliant. It's not inherently stupid. It could be stupid. It could be stupid
Yeah, like if they paid way too much money, maybe it's stupid
Maybe it's stupid. But and remember this is a company that buys super bowl ads
So, you know if they paid a hundred million dollars
This is a far better promotion than a super bowl ad if you want my honest opinion
And one that you were just talking about like it might actually influence their decisions think about if you're on a contract
How subsidized your phone is it's just a bit of money, right?
So it's it's it's probably like a hundred fifty dollar decision
But they're all going to be about 150 bucks or zero dollars you pick this phone
you get
Uh, you get fortnite and you get the decision between wireless akg headphones, which yeah sweet
Yeah, you should probably go with that unless you're a crazy fortnite fan
The other option is a hundred to a hundred dollars worth of v-bucks in game 100 250
Yeah, sorry, um and the thing the other thing you got to remember is that fortnite has an enormous fan base
So you you've got friends that work at like mobile gaming companies, right? Yes. What do you remember talking?
I know you've talked to them about it
But do you remember what they said was the percentage of the users that are your whales?
Oh, I don't remember the exact number but it is
Very very small. So then you've got like less than one percent. So when you've got hundreds of millions of users though
And you've got these whales that might spend hundreds of dollars a month on the game
To imagine that they might run out and buy a phone so that they can play the game that month
Oh, it's no question. Remember they get a phone. Yeah, I mean usually when they spend a couple hundred bucks on this game
They don't even get a phone. Hey, yo, I got a phone
cool
Like that is a no-brainer for the kind of people that are spending
Lots and lots of money on digital content for games like fortnite. So oh, yeah, they're gonna sell some phones
Don't kid yourself
Okay, last topic for today apple will fix devices damaged by japanese floods for free
Apple is buying themselves some free positive publicity and uh, hey, that's a good thing one quick thing. I'm going to step in here with
You just mentioned the like tiny percentage of your users. Uh
Are the whales there's a there's a really amazing story
Uh kevin lee coe a 45 year old man from rockland, california
Pled guilty to charges of wire fraud and money laundering having been caught stealing 4.8 million dollars from his employer
between 2008 and 2015
uh
one million dollars of which
He spent on game of war the mobile game
One thing that blows my mind about this is imagine literally how many times he would have had to click to buy something to spend
a million dollars
like it literally would have been tiresome to like
Spend that much money on in-game currency. I'm surprised he didn't manage to lose his job given how much time he was clearly spending playing
game of war
Yeah, I mean, okay. No, no, i'm sorry. I mean i'm sure he lost his job ignoring the money laundering all that kind of stuff
Yeah, it's like what was this guy even getting done all day clearly nothing
A million dollars on game of war. Oh my goodness. So crazy
All right
So, um, this is posted by red round two on the forum and apple has announced that it will repair any iphones macs ipods
Or ipads maybe ipod owners are getting some love. That's nice
That were directly damaged by the devastating heavy floods that swept through japan this month
That's cool. The flooding has caused hundreds of deaths and the support goes against apple's standard repair policies, which strictly exclude water damage
So almost all of apple's main product lines are eligible, but accessories are not included and proof of ownership may be required
That's fantastic. Way to go apple. That's very cool. That's probably going to cost him a lot of money
Yeah, i'd love to hear that though speaking of things. I love to hear
I love to hear that
That's it for this week i'm gonna go home. Oh, you're gonna enjoy my weekend
We gotta play some badminton. Yeah. Yeah, not this weekend. But yeah, very soon. No, fine
Also, I need to fix my back first and my arm. What'd you do with your back and your arm?
When are you not broken?
My knees are basically fixed. Yeah, that's not my point. It was great. My knees are almost fixed
So my lower back, I think it's my chair. I've ordered a new chair
Okay, the the like we're still using that horrible like
I don't like spending you told me you were gonna order a new chair
It has been ordered literally shut up. You told me you were gonna order a new chair
Literally before float plane was founded
Yeah before that project was even started. So that probably was like mid 2016. Yeah. Yeah a little bit. Yeah
I ordered it now though. It's showing up on august 6. I'm excited
What'd you get? It's I don't want to talk about it. Is it expensive? It's very expensive. Is it herman miller? Yes
I talked to a whole bunch of ergonomic experts. I talked to because my like
Oh, there's a history of back problems in my family, too
So I want to like solve it and that's part of the reason why it took me two and a half years to order it
It's because i've kind of known the one that I should order for a long time
It's not the it's not the main one. It's not the one most people buy but this is the what the chair
You'll use for the rest of your life, right? It has like a 25 year warranty or something
Okay, like it's supposed to I mean i'm a firm believer in buying one nice thing once
Yeah, so the number of times that I have not upgraded my wireless router
Since I spent a thousand dollars on a ruckus access point has probably
Gotten me about a third of the way there so far. Yeah
And I plan to continue to use that ruckus access point for many years because even though there are new wireless standards coming
That will be faster
The devices that i'll be able to afford will really if I were to buy something enterprise tier
Will be consumer grade and they're going to have
Other issues and quite frankly I get so on my blade stealth. I was transferring files to my nas at
46 megabytes a second. Yeah on my access point at home
Two nights ago that is good enough for me on wi-fi if I need faster than that. I will plug into a network connection
And I will get 10 gig because you know yolo or whatever
So i'm a firm believer if you're going to use something for long enough that you would have replaced it
Multiple times with commodity garbage in the time that you'd use it and I consider that a solid investment
Because you also have to pay yourself for the time that it takes to go and buy a new chair
Several times assemble it go shop for it figure out that you're missing a stupid
Bracket go back to the store and go to the bracket wall and find the right stupid bracket then take it home like
There's there's overhead associated with like there is dealing with buying stuff even a the biggest one
I would even say is shopping down time
Oh, yeah down times and pain because if your router goes down
Especially for someone like you. Yeah, like you just did the you did the angry jaw movement and the eye roll like that's
It's a problem. It could be very very impactful
Like I might not be able to get work done or I might be live streaming at my house or something back in those days
Anyway, if my router went down I would live here until I got a new one which would be the next morning
Because I would need one immediately like it's the so that's it for wan show
Thank you guys for tuning in
We will see you again next week
We are actually going to be discussing moving wan show to youtube
Whoa, yeah, we're going to be discussing moving wan show to youtube
Whoa, yeah
Maybe we should talk about it on the wan show next week
Well, maybe do some pros and cons. We'll talk to the twitch audience. Let's see what they think. What about mirrored?
What about mirrored? Um, so is that like against everyone's policies? I think so kind of it depends depends. All right. All right. See you guys. Bye