Alright guys, welcome to the WAN Show, and I'm down a pair of earphones for monitoring, so technical difficulties abound.
We've got a great show for you guys today, though there is a ton of fantastic news.
I'm also gonna have some early thoughts on the Droid Turbo, which is the phone that I have just started using as of last night, and I'm pretty darn impressed with so far.
And of course, he's gonna talk about Oculus, because the Oculus excitement fairies visited in the night and told us that the retail version is coming soon.
So let's go through what our main topics for today are. There's of course a ton of news from BlizzCon, and not just like Hearthstone, now with tablets.
I mean, they have that too. But there's other stuff.
Now you can use your Gmail app with any email service, including ones like Hotmail, who completely lacked apps for years and years and years and years and years, and just generally kind of suck as a mobile experience.
Now you can just use the Gmail interface.
Yeah, Google can have your data without even storing anything on their servers now.
You can just skim it and let someone else deal with that problem. Zalman is bankrupt, maybe.
Something's going on.
Anyways, and just as like the trustiest steam machine you could ever possibly imagine, get the pun?
Anyways, Ubisoft keeps on digging and was able to push through the news of their horribleness through all the mess of BlizzCon news, which is a lot impressive.
And important stuff.
I'm not even mad. That's just amazing. It's just like, wow, good work.
You are at an impressive level of stuff. That is really good. Good work.
All right, so let's roll the intro here. Let's see if it's set up correctly because I didn't do it.
There's sound. All right. Okay.
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I don't know which one.
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I can't take credit. That was that was Nick's idea.
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So let's get into our first topic today, which is going to be that Blizzard should just stop making games because they're cinematic trailers for things.
The Warlords of Draenor one, the the one for Overwatch that just came out today that I was like spellbound by.
OK, so I love animated movies. I love The Incredibles.
That's one of my favorite movies of all time.
I loved Megamind like that action animated movies turns me on.
Seriously. So that trailer today.
Oh, man, I'm glad I was alone in the room because I would have knocked something over with.
Yeah, so freaking awesome.
And and they didn't pull that whole BS Square Enix thing where there's like a 16 minute long cinematic trailer of like some really impressively spiky haired dude with like an impressively huge sword.
That's also a gun and a laser beam or something like twirling around with it or whatever.
We didn't get any of that or like like, you know, dramatic silence, broody thing and then no gameplay because they know we're not going to like it.
I know instead we actually got a gameplay trailer. Do you want to talk about the gameplay trailer for Overwatch?
Yeah. So one thing I really liked about the gameplay trailer for Overwatch, just to completely reiterate what you just said, was that they showed every single.
This is why I love having you say exactly what you just said.
They showed every single character, which I really appreciate.
And they showed what I think was the complete move set as far as I could tell.
I had to watch it like twice and I was referencing a sheet that shows like their two main moves and their ultimate.
If you looked really closely, it looks like they actually show all of their moves, including their ultimate.
Now, the assassin dude with the dual pistols, pretty much every single time they showed him on screen, they showed his ultimate, which was kind of funny.
But I was trying to figure out the first time I watched it, I was like, why does he just get to instant kill everyone around him all the time?
I was like, this doesn't seem fair at all. I figured out later on it's his ultimate thing.
They should just call that class the douchebag.
Well, he's a stealth character, so it's kind of funny.
I know how games work.
No, I mean the douchebag comment. He's a stealth character, so it kind of works.
Yes, I guess so.
At least how I see them when I play games.
Anyways, it looks really good. What a lot of people are pointing out is that while it's like the first new IP in forever,
that's largely because it's like, it's tightened.
They just removed everything except for the PvP portion, and then they were like, yay, whole game.
Well, that's a large amount of speculation. I don't know if that's actually true.
That's what a lot of people are saying, and it makes sense.
And I don't know if I'm against it, because this looks really cool as its own game.
And I'm hoping that by being its own game, they can expand on it a little bit more instead of having a canned experience within a larger thing.
And even talking to people that are really into WoW, since they kind of abandoned the whole Titan idea,
and brought some of those MMO guys back to the WoW experience.
WoW has gotten a lot better because of that, so it kind of makes sense.
I'm pretty stoked for Overwatch, actually. I signed up for the beta already. It looks fun.
And I like games that are just kind of fun.
Yeah, it does. It just looks like, well, they're going to have to still work hard to balance it.
I'm sure they will.
If you're going to compete with something like Team Fortress, that's fun and really well balanced for hard cores,
as long as you don't go over the top with some of the stupid stuff that goes on.
If they can achieve both of those things, and Blizzard is one of the companies where I kind of look at it and go,
who actually has the pedigree to go head-to-head with Valve as one of the only two competitors in an entire genre?
Yeah, I could see them doing it. Balance has never, in my opinion...
They're really good at it.
They're really good at it in some realms.
Some ways.
I don't personally think they've done very well with World of Warcraft arenas,
which is part of the reason why they were actually pushed out of, I can't remember what, very large gaming tournament.
I can't believe the... MLG, was it?
They were pushed out of some huge gaming tournament because they were just like,
your thing is horribly unbalanced and this is just ridiculous.
So yeah, but that's part of the reason why I said I'm totally okay with it being its own canned experience.
Because I don't want the other stuff to mess with it, and if it doesn't mess with it,
then they might be able to work on things like balance much more effectively.
Looks like a lot of fun though.
So you can sign up for the beta, which is coming in 2015 at playoverwatch.com.
I'm glad that they're taking their time to polish it.
They're not even doing... I mean, it looks pretty playable right now, but that means that they're...
Yeah, you never really know.
So they're probably not working on artwork assets so much anymore.
They're probably fine-tuning the actual gameplay and maps and the actual experience of playing the game.
So I'm really excited to see it. I want to play with it. I like that it's 6v6.
Yeah, I think that's pretty cool.
It's just pushing it that much more, and if they try to make it competitive 6v6,
then there's a lot more room for dynamic gameplay, especially as you throw in all these different classes.
Yeah, there's a ton. I don't know the exact number, but there's a really large amount.
And they're pushing the whole, it's a character instead of it being a class, but it's a class.
Oh, whatever.
Yeah, it's a class. There's the sniper, and there's the engineer, and there's the tank guy.
And the engineer has a beard now!
Not surprising.
Anyways, moving on. Should we just do all the Blizzard news right now?
Yeah, sure, sure. So yeah, just one last thing.
We finally got an FPS from Blizzard. We've been waiting for it since Ghost.
Yay!
I still wish we got Ghost.
And back to the StarCraft universe. Now you can do your thing.
Okay, so Legacy of the Void will be a standalone game, which is interesting,
and I personally think actually a really good idea, because it'll make the barrier of entry into StarCraft a lot easier.
Because buying a new game and then having to buy all these expansions for it just sucks.
The $90 or $100 battle chest that inevitably comes out?
Yeah, that's just really frustrating. So I'm really cool with the fact that they made it a standalone game.
They're doing a few cool things as well. I'm not really going to focus tons on the
you get to pilot this ancient ship and the single player and all that crap.
And there was like a lot of lore around it and it's like really cool.
Certain things happen if you like single player StarCraft campaigns, go play it.
I do, but I don't think a ton of people care, so oh well.
They're introducing a few new modes. One that looks really interesting is Archon mode.
A new co-op and PvP mode where you work with your teammate to control a single base and a single army.
So it's two people controlling one team essentially.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
I actually think so as well. I'm really stoked.
Again, for people who are new to the game, that kind of thing could be a legitimately entertaining way to play in a game with your buddy who's like way better.
I've forced it before because I love this idea.
I've gone into a 2v2 and essentially like we've rushed and essentially sacrificed one of our guys.
Right.
And then just given control to the other guy.
Right.
And then one person manages the base and the other person manages the army.
And by being able to quite literally be in two places at once, it can make two players that would be fairly mediocre into a really good player.
Right.
And it's interesting to see how that plays out. So it's really cool that it's actually a game mode now.
Yeah, I'm going to have a lot of fun with that actually.
I will play that game mode. It's probably the only thing I'll care about because I like RTS games.
I enjoy them, but I tend to be a little bit of a scatterbrain and a little bit kind of ADD.
So I will completely forget about that 16 units that I queued up.
And I'll be in of skirmish or whatever and I left 16 guys standing next to my barracks.
And if you could have just have someone just like pushing units at you while you fight and you just completely fight, that'd be fun.
And I'm a base micromanager. I like building bases.
Right.
And I usually just like attacking when I have like a huge army, which isn't necessarily the best way to go.
It's not really necessarily a good strategy.
No, yeah.
And then they have another mode called Allied Commanders, which is another co-op style mode,
where players join forces through different scenarios and they gain new capabilities as they progress and go forward.
And I don't know a ton about that one, but again, it's this like bringing people together.
I like RTSs a lot. I like watching 1v1 Starcraft. I'm not a huge fan of playing 1v1 Starcraft.
I like playing RTSs on teams. My favorite modes are 2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 because I get to play with someone.
So I like that they're bringing out these additional modes.
Also, there's going to be an online dynamic tournament system, which should be really cool,
which I'm pretty stoked about because people like my brother, ColdSC, a Starcraft caster,
have been pretty frustrated with the tournament support and team support in Starcraft,
so it's cool that they might actually be doing something about it.
Also, they're bringing in new units, which is not surprising, and they're bringing back the Lurker,
which some people have been waiting for.
All right, so then we did promise that one of the things at BlizzCon was going to be Hearthstone with tablets,
just like last year. Well, now it's Hearthstone on different tablets.
Android tablets.
Why wasn't this a thing nine months ago, shortly after the iOS release? I don't know.
Should have been a lot faster. I'm pretty stoked that it's finally happening,
more of a like, yeah, okay, thank you, instead of like a yay.
But they're also releasing a new expansion, Goblins vs Gnomes, so that'll be cool.
The previous expansion that they released was actually really fun, so it's cool to see them expanding the game.
There's also going to be 120 new themed cards, which is pretty insane.
Hey, and you don't have to borrow my iPad anymore.
Yeah.
Hey, that worked out for everyone.
All right, so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic. Intel was caught cheating.
Now, is this the second time?
Oh, this is, I think it's more than that.
Or like the whatever time, because when I first saw the story, I was like, wait.
Okay, there was an old article.
There was like the big one where there was like allegedly Intel was, you know,
paying for people to not or deeply incentivizing their partners to not carry AMD products.
And that was, I think that was like HP and Dell or something like that.
And this was back around the same timeframe, I think a little bit earlier actually.
Okay.
Whereas this is during the Pentium 4 days.
Specifically, if you bought a Pentium 4 based computer sometime between November 20th in the year 2000 and December 31st, 2001.
So just over a year of time, you bought a P4, you get a $15 cash payout for Intel, not allegedly.
It's confirmed now, they were caught.
So for Intel, misrepresenting the performance of the Pentium 4 relative to the AMD Athlon Thunderbird.
So if you want your 15 bucks, there's no receipt necessary.
And Intel will also be paying $4 million to educational charities, which is pretty cool.
They have to pay, they're not also.
They're not like, yeah, thank you for the unfavorable court ruling.
Just to use 4 million bucks, no, it's something they have to do that.
Yeah.
So it's one of those things where I think a lot of people will kind of look at this and go, you know, big, bad Intel, you're bad dudes.
And you know what?
That was not a cool thing to do.
I think that based on our engagement with Intel over the last couple of years, they treat this kind of stuff really seriously internally now.
Especially after that, the big lawsuit, the one where they had to pay AMD.
Like, I can't remember how much it was.
I want to say it was in the neighborhood of hundreds of millions or a billion or something like that.
Yeah, it was a big deal.
So ever since.
Yeah, I vaguely remember that.
Ever since that whole thing came to light, like, they are so careful when they talk to us about, look, say whatever you want.
Do this, do that.
They criticize us publicly if that's what it comes to.
Just be fair and like, we'll sponsor you.
We'll have that relationship with you, but we can't affect anything you do or say.
Okay, that's good.
That's how it's supposed to work.
Yeah, they're always pretty, pretty careful.
$15 pants.
My computer from like high school wasn't fast enough, so I want my $15 now.
The only winners from something like this, because the amount of effort that it takes to make the $15, you could probably go fill out online surveys.
The only winners are people that are like...
Lawyers.
Yeah, well, lawyers, and then people that are like 14 and then are like, Dad, can I say that you bought a computer at this time?
Dad's like, sure, whatever, and then that kid gets $15 and then buys a cheap game on Steam.
Yay!
Yeah, so the lawyers are the big winners, but that's about it.
And an educational charity.
Yeah, and a charity.
Speaking of being a big winner, Sony reports a $1.25 billion loss.
Did I say winner? Because I meant loser.
Over the last quarter, $1.25 billion US dollars spearheaded.
So, oh wow, we haven't been posting original posters.
Oh, geez.
Oh, no.
So, Intel caught cheating was STIZZY, and the original article was from gizmodo.com.
And this one was posted by Good Bytes, and the original article is from neowin.net.
Not done.
The Hearthstone on Tablets post was by Joners, and the Overwatch post was by Gruffalo.
Ah, I need this adapter.
As long as this isn't the one that I marked dead, and should just throw away because it doesn't work.
Ah, no, this is the good one.
What I normally do is if it's dead, I cut it in half and then I just throw it away.
So people don't take it out of the garbage.
Yeah, I actually had a problem with people fishing the stuff that I had thrown away out of the garbage.
I think an ethernet cable made the rounds like four times.
It's like, but I'm just trying to network things, I want them to just work.
Okay, so Linus' screen sharing is evidently not a thing right now.
We're just peeing.
So, yeah, no, Linus is not screen sharing today.
Okay, so from Neowin.
Sony reports 1.25 billion dollars in losses led by Wright, mostly due to their mobile division.
Which is a real shame because I don't know about necessarily the rest of their lineup,
but the Xperia Z2 is a really solid phone,
and it doesn't get the amount of attention that I really think it deserves.
I mean, they were one of the first ones to glom onto that idea that,
oh, wow, we should make the battery bigger.
I mean, it's got a 3200 milliamp hour battery,
which is significantly more than most of its competition.
And they were the first ones to pioneer that whole waterproof thing.
Remember how much our brains exploded at CES?
When they had like the dunk tank with the phone?
Yeah, that was actually pretty cool.
If they had a stock Android skin instead of their Sony skin,
I probably would have bought a Z3 by now, because I'm up for an upgrade.
So, okay, I would have upgraded through my phone plan to a Z3.
So their movie division had an operating loss of 10 million,
which in the grand scheme of things is actually not that bad.
You know, they could have sold a couple more tickets to something,
and it's kind of a, you kind of look at that and you go,
okay, well, maybe it'll be better next quarter.
You know, Hollywood accounting and all that kind of stuff.
Yep, and so, you know, revenues increased in total 7%,
although I personally, as much as investors might care about this kind of thing,
like Wall Street kind of cares about this,
I kind of look at it and I go, so what, you sold more, but you lost more money?
How is that a business strategy?
That's not a good sign.
That just means you've slashed your prices to liquidate,
and then you, like on a very sort of micro level,
obviously they're doing it on a much larger scale.
Slashing things and liquidating.
And then their music division posted slight profits
and PlayStation 4 maintained healthy sales,
although I really have to wonder, with the way AAA gaming is going,
is PlayStation 4 a worthy competitor to the Wii U right now?
Oh, Wii U is smashing it so far.
Get it? Smashing it?
That was actually the point, yeah.
Sorry, yeah, boom.
Fist smash.
Smash stick.
Anyways, they're doing really well, and with Smash around the corner
and with Squidru, I can't remember the name of the game,
Splatoon, there we go, with that around the corner getting really, really good reviews,
the Wii U has just been doing incredibly well lately.
And something that I thought was amazing, which I tweeted out not that long ago,
was a whole bunch of Xbox and PlayStation,
that style of next-gen console fanboys ragging on Wii U
before Xbox One and PS4 had been released.
Right.
You think it's cool that you can run 1080p 60fps?
That's pathetic.
Oh, yeah.
I get a kick out of how many console fanboys still think that they're getting 4K at some point.
No, you aren't.
Nah, dude, nah.
I don't know, I think it still will,
because no matter how much I can go,
yeah, the best setup is a Wii U and a PC,
or if you just have little kids, maybe just a Wii U or something,
because I'm a huge fan of Wii U and I'm a huge fan of PC gaming.
It's in this weird situation where, kind of like with World of Warcraft in a lot of ways,
you want to play a game that all your friends are playing.
Yeah.
That's one of the big reasons why World of Warcraft exploded,
is because if people wanted to play a game with a lot of their friends,
it just catalyzed so quickly because so many people started playing and it just blew up,
and that happens with consoles as well.
I remember being in high school, I wanted to play games with my friends.
Every single friend that I had was playing on consoles,
and then there's me with my computer.
I'm like, yay.
Hey guys, do you want to get together and play some games?
Where do I plug in my mouse and keyboard?
They're like, what?
Eventually I was able to move everyone over onto my team,
but yeah, there was a lot of console playing.
I had an Xbox, I played Halo 2 online.
It was actually fantastic because Halo 2 was an amazing game.
Really? So you didn't catch the leprosy or something?
Console leprosy?
After Halo 2 I ditched hard.
I bought Halo 3 and I was like, wow, this game's terrible.
And then I stopped.
But yeah, by that point I had moved a lot of my friends to PC gaming anyways,
so it just kind of worked out.
But I get it.
I understand why so many people are into it.
I think it's actually...
I'm part of that PC Master Race group where I actually feel bad for them.
I wish their experience was better.
Their consoles just suck.
But no, if you look back at it, most console releases,
they lose money when they sell the machine,
and then they make money back on games and controllers and stuff.
Now they're making money from selling the machine
because it's a giant piece of crap.
Well, it's not very large.
It's a small piece of crap.
It's a very slim-lined piece of crap.
It doesn't smell bad.
It could.
It could, yes.
It smells not static.
Anyways, I wish they had a better experience.
They just don't.
Okay.
You know what's kind of funny?
We have surprisingly few live viewers today,
and I'm not quite sure what's going on.
Ah, yes, the announcement video on YouTube never went live for some reason.
It's sitting right here.
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Authentication expired.
Well, that's clever.
Let's go ahead and actually announce that we're live
because that would be fantastic.
It's the kind of thing that you should do if you're live and streaming a video.
You should be like, yo, dog, I'm live.
You all should come watch right about now.
It's going to be pretty cool and awesome,
and I can't believe we didn't do this.
I sort of suspected something earlier,
but then I got all carried away ranting about something,
and then I got distracted.
So speaking of ranting about things and getting distracted,
HTC's new charger gets your mobile charging up to 40% faster.
So it takes advantage.
This is not an HTC technology.
It takes advantage of Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 technology,
so the 1M8, 1E8, 1M8HK Edition,
Harman Kardon Edition.
Ooh, it's very special.
And the Desire Eye can all utilize this new charger.
So they figure the certified charger can restore 60%
to a 3300 milliamp-hour battery in just 30 minutes.
That's awesome.
I like that it's backwards compatible.
It's called the HTC Rapid Charger 2.0,
and it not only works with the newer devices that support
Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0,
but also older devices that support Quick Charge 1.0,
albeit at a lesser rate.
So I've actually got at least...
You know what?
I'm pretty sure the Droid Turbo has Quick Charge 2.0,
but I also have a 1M8,
so we have a quick charger on order already,
not from HTC.
It's a different one that I'm going to try out.
I'm going to see how much of a difference it makes
because I think that even though we haven't gotten
to that revolutionary stage yet,
where we can charge our batteries in 15 seconds,
wearlessly, or we have batteries that last
for five days at a time or whatever else.
That's what I'm open for.
If I can recharge in half an hour to an hour, let's say,
and I can get a full day,
no matter how hard I abuse it
out of the capacity of that battery,
then that's at least a massive step towards
that revolutionary next step.
The really cool part, in my opinion,
about this you can get 60% in half an hour
isn't even the half an hour part.
It's how much that comes down to in a two-minute
or five-minute frame.
The burst like, oh my god, I need a little battery,
but I can't stop.
I have seven minutes and nine seconds
before I need to walk out the door.
My phone is almost dead.
Can I get through this date that's probably
gonna be horrible by texting on my phone the whole time?
If it dies, what am I gonna do?
I'm gonna have to actually look at her face,
which is horrible, like that kind of thing, right?
Yeah, that would be really helpful.
A lot of the times, if it's gonna be able to sit there
for half an hour, it's gonna be able to sit there
for three hours.
It's gonna be able to sit there for more than that.
It's the very short burst charging that excites.
So I'm gonna use this to segue into my initial thoughts
about the Droid Turbo from Motorola.
This is a Verizon-exclusive device,
and honestly, that's the biggest complaint
I can come up with about it,
is that not everyone everywhere right now can buy it.
It's very early stages.
I first signed in to my Google account on it 21 hours ago,
so I've been using it for very little time, but...
Is it Verizon-exclusive for the world?
Is it not coming to Canada?
No, I think it's gonna be...
There's rumors that it'll be called the Droid Max,
or the Moto Max, or something like that.
So it'll have a different name.
Yeah, so it'll have a different name or whatever,
but it'll probably be a very similar phone.
What's cool about it is, and this is a review unit,
so I'm not sure if this will apply to the retail ones,
but the Verizon-ness of it is that I can't use MMS.
Verizon doesn't allow MMS messages outside their own network,
and that's pretty locked.
Even after I rooted my wife's Droid DNA,
she never got MMS working.
So there's that.
Limitation number two is that it comes with some Verizon stuff
pre-installed on it that you can go make a folder for somewhere and hide it.
And then limitation number three is that when you first put in your SIM,
it boots up and says, blah, blah, blah, this is not a Verizon SIM.
And then you press OK, and it drops you on the home screen.
So what I'm hoping is everyone will be able to buy one,
even if they can't necessarily get one with a carrier subsidy,
because the 3900 milliamp-hour battery in here,
they're claiming two days, that's Motorola's sort of quote,
is we want you to get through 48 hours per charge.
And I'm going to go, you know what, phone enthusiasts,
yeah, it ain't happening, it's not going to be two days.
Unless you were already getting one and two-thirds of a day
out of an Xperia Z2, you're not going to get two days out of this
because it's that much more.
But what I want from it and what it looks like I'm going to get
is like one tank day, like no matter what I do to it.
So today I am hitting it as hard as I can.
Like I used my GPS navigation to go to work and back,
so that was a total of an hour today already.
No, more than that, about an hour and a half.
That used to kill, my phone used to die from full to zero
completely on one of that trip, one direction of that trip that you just pulled.
So I've had music running all day, I've had the screen brightness
just kind of managing itself rather than doing anything special with it.
I've had Bluetooth on, I've had everything on and I've been constantly on it.
I've been doing all my emails and all my prep for WAN Show
I did on here instead of on my computer.
And I'm still at 37% and I'm tethering to my laptop
throughout the entire WAN Show.
Like I'm trying to throw a worst case scenario at it
and if it can make it through this day.
He's leaving the screen on this whole time.
Yeah, with even, like I'm hurting it.
If it can make it through this day with 5% left
and all my apps and all my services running in the background
including the Moto 360 connectedness, I'm going to be really impressed
and this is going to be my new daily driver for sure.
Yeah.
So there you go, that's my initial thoughts.
Full review to come though, of course.
People are asking about full room water cooling.
It'll come.
It'll come.
I have a post in the water cooling section about it.
It'll be on the way.
And then mineral oil, we have like a...
Monday night.
Monday night, okay.
Yeah, Monday night, it's on the schedule.
It's actually edited now.
Perfect.
There you go.
Yeah, I thought we had a date.
I wasn't sure so I didn't want to say it.
Yeah.
So yeah, Monday night, mineral oil is coming.
Tell you what, tomorrow is the Sennheiser Momentum in-ear earphones.
Tomorrow night.
The following night is LG curved surround part one.
And then the night after that is oil-cooled part two.
Which should also be really cool.
So it's all going to be really good stuff for the next few days.
I haven't even seen oil-cooled part two.
I'm excited.
I watched number one and I was like, wow, that was really cool.
And I was like, wait a second, I was in that.
Yeah, I was there.
Yay.
Yeah, Berkel got it down to 13 minutes.
Nice.
Yeah, so it's pretty...
Like three hours of footage or something.
It's pretty compact.
Yeah, it's going to be good.
All right, so speaking of things that are going to be good, oh my goodness, this is
freaking awesome.
Oh yeah.
Now you can use your Gmail app with other email accounts.
Like I don't know about you guys, but I still have a Hotmail.com account that is tied to
so many things that it's just way more work than it's worth because, you know, some site
will like change their domain and send me a notification about it at some point and
I'll have like some thing or something and it'll go to that email address.
But I hate the Hotmail interface or Outlook or whatever it is they call it these days.
Absolutely hate it.
It's actually the mobile one.
Use that through...
Yes, especially the mobile one.
Being able to use my Gmail app for that, yeah.
Which means hopefully eventually inbox, maybe?
Maybe.
This isn't inbox.
No.
We have to be very clear about that.
New Gmail app, which I actually just started using, it just rolled out to me, I updated
to it, has a very different look and feel to it.
It has that...
What are they calling it?
Material design?
Yes, I think so.
Yeah, material design kind of look to it, which is just, I don't care.
Everything's kind of in the same place.
Some stuff's round now.
It's like, okay.
Yay, curved edges.
So there's that.
It's going to match better with the upcoming Android Lollipop.
But the new Gmail is completely separate from Inbox, which I got an invite from someone
and thank you so much for that, but it hasn't been very useful for me because I use my corporate
account as my primary email and corporate accounts are not able to get in on Google
Inbox yet.
But you have been using it.
You want to talk about it?
Yeah.
I use both.
I actually mainly use my corporate account as well, but I use my personal one because
I have taken all of my Hotmail accounts and stuff that he was talking about, old accounts
that are linked to too many things to get rid of, and I've ported all of them through
that one remaining personal account that I have.
So I'm using that one for like six different emails essentially.
And so I actually use it.
I got the invite from the same person he did and it's kind of great.
The email reminder thing is fantastic because like my mom will send me an email about some
family gathering thing that I like really need to pay attention to.
But I got it at 2 p.m. on a work day.
Or I'll send you an email at three in the morning that will get buried by other random
crap by the time you actually arrive at work.
So being able to...
And like I might have received it at three in the morning and I'll be like, oh, this
is important.
But starring things in Gmail puts them below your importance and I just forget about them
forever, which is not helpful.
So now I can be like, remind me and at this specific time or like later today or whatever.
So with say work emails from Linus, I'll be like, remind me at like 10 a.m. or something
like in the morning once I'm at work doing stuff.
And with emails from like my mom, I'll be like, remind me at like seven or eight when
I'm home and doing random stuff.
So I find that really, really helpful.
I like the reminder system.
It's great.
It will remind you on time.
It'll put reminders of anything inside your email inbox.
So when you go to check your emails, you're like, oh, I remember this now.
It's actually a lot more helpful than just setting random timed reminders because you
might be able to remind yourself earlier and that'll help you prepare, yada, yada, yada.
And it's very, very easy to get through stuff like Amazon plugging you with emails for toasters
because you bought a toaster six months ago and it thinks that you need 40 more because
it'll bundle things in sections, say promotions.
You can jump into promotions, read all the titles and it'll give you a little bit of
a blurb of the email as well, which should be able to explain what it's all about.
So I'll see like Amazon, uh, like any steam stuff you play, all that kind of stuff all
dumped in one spot with different sales and whatnot.
I'll scroll through it all and be like, wow, I don't want to spend money.
Checkbox.
They're all gone.
It's very easy to really, really quickly get through those types of emails, which is really
helpful.
All right, so let's go ahead and move on to our next actual topic because I think we kind
of got distracted a couple of times there in the last little bit.
HP and in our, excuse me, HP and Microsoft are dropping the hammer.
No, they're dropping a bomb, lowering the boom, and they're doing something with a hammer
because a Chrome books may not make any sense to me anymore.
This looks really compelling.
So they've launched the new HP stream lineup that includes the stream seven, the stream
eight, the stream 11 and the stream 13.
So the seven and the eight are tablets.
The seven is a seven inch windows tablet at a hundred dollars.
Now they're not really saying anything about specs.
We do know that it's an Intel based solution, so probably some kind of a super low power
Adam thing or even something else.
Not, not a hundred percent sure what it is.
Probably Adam.
And then the eight is an eight inch windows tablet at 150 bucks.
So this was originally posted on the forum by top war gamer and the original article
here is from the verge.
And this is where things start to get crazy.
The stream eight comes with 200 megs of free LTE data each month with no contract.
And right now, presumably through T-Mobile.
Now I've been saying for a long time that I think that cloud storage is super cool except
for when you're on mobile and you're using a lame-o data limit.
Well now, okay, you're not going to be, you're not going to be transferring like movies to
and from your cloud storage with 200 megs.
But if we're talking about a tablet that's going to be used predominantly for work, well
that's lots for the odd text document and some pictures here and there.
And that sounds fantastic, especially when I throw in this next little bit, which is
that both tablets get a year of office 365, one terabyte of one drive storage and 60 minutes
of Skype calling included in the purchase.
Actually kind of awesome.
That's like, I wonder if you break that value down, what that totals, I wonder how close
that is to the total cost of the actual device.
I think for the seven that costs more like sticker price then.
So you might as well just buy a seven if you're going to use all those, if you're going to
use those services, but I could see I pay for an office 365 account.
It's awesome.
I love it.
I just, the way it works now is I really like the graph creation and I'm probably going
to switch office 365 just cause they look better.
And whenever I create graphs, they don't look as good anymore.
Yep.
So I think 365 is really great and I hope that they move windows to something like that
because I think that personal licensing makes a lot more sense than device licensing in
the modern world where my device is very interchangeable.
I mean I can switch over to a new phone within about, you know, an hour of dinking around
and changing desktop wallpapers and ringtones and stuff.
So the device is not, this is not the important thing.
The important thing is me, I'm allowed to use Google play music and office and windows
or whatever else.
Whatever I happen to be, that should be where all of my stuff is and, and this, this is,
this is that, this looks fantastic.
Um, now then things get even more interesting cause you could kind of look at and you go,
okay, well Linus, that's seven and an eight inch low spec tablet is not exactly a competitor
for a Chromebook because Chromebooks are books, they're not books, they're laptops actually.
But the point is a, is not necessarily the seven and the eight.
The point is the stream 11 and stream 13.
So the 11 is an 11.6 inch laptop with an HD display at 200 bucks.
And the 13 is a 13.3 inch laptop that has an option for touch screen.
Also assumed to be an HD display priced at 230 bucks.
Both using dual core Celerons with fanless designs, 32 gigs of flash storage, and both
come with a free year of office 365.
Wow.
That's kind of awesome.
You know how you said the book thing?
Well laptops aren't technically tops either, like spinning tops.
Get it.
Get it.
Get it.
Get it.
That joke was tops.
They're not.
They're not.
Oh, all right.
So let's just move on now.
So you know what?
We, we got it.
We got a Twitter blitz.
This guy's Chromebook or stream.
We want to hear from you guys and maybe I know it's 140 characters, but give us a couple
thoughts about why.
Because you look at Chrome, you look at Chrome OS and you kind of go, okay, well I can run
a Chrome browser and I can run all my apps and like, you know, that's cool.
They're in my browser, but I've never liked that experience personally.
No, it's not.
Never been interested in a Chromebook.
Look, I'm trying to present it as if I actually think it's a good idea.
Okay.
So, so Chrome OS, so you've got your, and you know what?
When I did try to use it for a little while, whenever I had internet connectivity, it wasn't
that bad, but the Chrome experience relies on connectivity.
Everything runs in this browser and things 365 doesn't care and well, you can use Google's
stuff offline and then sync it once you reach a connection again, like they do have answers
to that.
But the truth of the matter is that office 365 is a paid solution and drive and sheets
and whatever are not a paid solution because a paid solution is just a lot better than
the other one.
I'm honestly, I like Google docs because of some of the collaboration stuff that allows
us to do very cool.
A lot of times if it's just something that I'm only going to be working on and not other
people, I will use local solutions like Word and Excel because Google boxes are just better
in a lot of ways.
Even like, uh, I'm going to bring my love for notepad plus plus for a second, but if
you have it open in two locations and you make revisions in one location and save it,
when you go over to the other location, it won't just be broken when you try to, when
you try to even just click on the window, it'll be like, Oh, this has been saved and
remade on another machine.
Would you like to reload the file?
You just say yes and it's whoop.
So like there's, there's even better collaborate.
There's like the collaboration for local stuff is even not even that bad, right?
If you have multiple computers and like I'll work on something at home and I'll work on
something at work and if I'm working on it at home and then just leave and then save
it also at work and come back and just like, Oh, reload.
And the thing and the, and the, and that kind of collaboration to like personal self collaboration
almost is, uh, is great for that.
But the other kind of collaboration person to person collaboration, especially where
I'm editing something that someone else produced and I want to leave comments.
So, and I want to keep like, I want to have like a really nicely organized change history.
It's much better for me to use something like office.
It just, it just works better.
Uh, Google docs has a pretty good change history stuff, but I also like, it's, I like, it's
not as well laid out.
Yeah.
I like offices more.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
So right.
Yeah.
Let's go to the Twitter blitz.
I want to hear from you guys.
What's wrong with the outlook interface?
You know what?
I have to confess, I haven't used it that recently, but if I were to do a review of
it today, I'm sure I could find at least a dozen things that are just brain dead about
it.
So I mainly just don't like the app.
Honestly, the online version, uh, like the web version has some pretty annoying crap
about it.
Yeah.
But it's not nearly as bad as hotmail and it's a lot better than it used to be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's all for the HP and Microsoft solution is I can't go without my desktop apps and
move to a browser.
You know what?
Great point.
We didn't even bring that up.
It's a full windows OS, so you can actually install things on the app on the laptops through
two gigs, but, but you could, you can have stuff and you're not expecting to play games.
So most of your apps won't even be that big and you can probably fit it on a big problem
that I had with Chrome OS was things like Kodak compatibility and I don't know if they've
addressed that recently.
But back when I looked at Acer's Chromebook, I was like, okay, so I can watch like these
videos and not these other ones.
And if you can just install like VLC, windows media player classic and CCCP, you're just
good for it.
And 32 gigs is not going to be a problem.
That's still lots of storage for just those little things that make your mic a little
bit easier.
You know?
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, max says stream because it would make a great cheap portable Linux device.
Great point.
I was never interested in Chrome or Chrome OS from agent 47.
This might be intriguing for all the extra stuff you get.
Office 365 is actually good.
Oh sure.
Why not?
Let's, let's uh, experiment live and find out what this actually is.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know what?
Let's, let's make that the official one.
So let's go ahead and uh, let's just post that here.
I hope that I'm already logged in cause otherwise this is going to take me a second.
Sorry guys.
Oh, Oh, I typoed.
I suck.
I'm a bad person.
Oh no, I got it.
I typoed but it logged in anyway.
So apparently Twitch just doesn't care.
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All right.
Let's pretend that didn't happen.
All right.
That's official now.
So let's go ahead and let's go back to Twitter here.
Um, Oh my God, Tony says stream because there are no applications for Chrome OS.
No isn't fair, but it is very limited, very right.
Definitely the stream 13 cause I want windows instead of Chrome OS, better compatibility,
spam jazz.
Oh, this is interesting.
Our school supplied all the kids with Chromebooks.
They don't run plugins and players, so they're sort of a waste.
I would rather have something running windows than not says Jack.
I've used Chromebooks and been very unhappy with them.
MSI.
Okay.
I now want a laptop and it's going to be a stream one with a touch screen.
Really interesting.
I don't think we have ever, Oh no, there we go.
I was about to say, I don't think we've ever had the entire audience as unanimous about
something as this.
Um, but BCD says, Oh, I think, I think he might've misunderstood.
Um, two of the devices are laptops with keyboards.
Yeah.
And there's still good point.
Yeah.
Because especially if you're in a production thing, like if you're doing work and you need
to use accelerate word, not using a real keyboard, it's going to be really frustrating.
This is a great point from Austin stream because I don't think it's fair to say it's stupid
and pointless, but windows can do everything that Chrome OS can and more.
So if you're getting a low cost device where you're not saddled with that extra a hundred
dollar burden of the windows license, then yeah, why not have windows browser?
You can still install Chrome and you can still install Chrome apps.
So yeah.
Yay.
Best of both worlds.
Chrome, Chrome, Chromebooks.
As far as I can tell, I mean, I'd love to review one of these laptops just so that I
can get a feel for the build quality and everything because if they're decent, I don't understand
why Chromebooks get to exist in the world anymore at all.
I never liked them in the first place.
So now that there's something that just stops them and actually looks interesting, like
this is actually intriguing.
I wouldn't have been able to do it for the schooling I did, but if you're taking like
business or something like that, this makes a ton of sense, especially considering how
cheap it is.
You could almost use it as like a throwaway every single time your Office 365 subscription
died and just get a new one.
And it would almost be-
And flip the old one.
Yeah.
And it would almost be like more cost effective than just buying like a thousand dollar laptop
and carrying that through school because it's actually cheaper and you could just try to
sell off your old ones as you went through and you'd have a constant Office 365 subscription,
constant updates on your Skype payment.
And what's the other one?
A terabyte of-
Yeah, one drive.
So you'd constantly have a terabyte of drive, constantly have Office 365, which you'd be
paying for anyways.
Constantly have Skype stuff.
Well, not constantly.
Have a fair amount of Skype time and then a brand new laptop every single year and it's
still cheaper than buying one $1,000 laptop.
I can always count on you to give me the like supremely cheap bastard perspective on things,
can't I?
Knowing me, I would just buy one of them and then carry it the whole way through.
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Let's go ahead and move into our next topic, shall we PayPal.
I was like Apple pay.
It's like, didn't we talk about last week about how PayPal hasn't really done anything?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like they've tried to do stuff and, but I mean like why did the incumbent sit around
and wait for Apple to unify everything and like, where are the innovations?
This is an innovation.
This I'm really excited about.
PayPal has officially launched their pay after delivery service, which don't think of it
as like, Oh, you know, free stuff that I don't have to pay for or like, yeah, you still definitely
have to pay for it.
But the point is trust.
So it allows users to pay for their goods up to 14 days after they choose to make a
purchase.
So if you buy from someone, I'd love to say someone like Amazon, unfortunately they don't
take PayPal, but if you buy from someone else online, um, then basically it arrives.
You kind of go like, yes, this appears to be an actual mobile communication device.
Okay.
It's all good.
So the money doesn't come out of your account until you're satisfied that you've actually
received the device that you did.
How cool is that?
That's freaking awesome.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
So they actually partnered with Burger King and this, this I love.
Yeah.
Oh God.
So you have to order your food ahead of time.
So this doesn't have to be like 14 days after the fact.
This could be like 20 minutes.
Be like, yo dog, I'm gonna stop by the Burger King, have my order ready and the payment
drops out of your account.
Like it's, it's like preauthorized and prepaid and you just go pick up your food.
Fast food just got faster, America, America.
I'm in North America, so I consider myself part of America when I make fun of.
Food won't come to us.
No, probably not.
Just like we're not getting Apple pay or Google wallet or this or anything cool.
Yeah.
I kind of like, I felt like really sucky cause we're doing a fast as possible over on the
tech Wiki channel about Apple pay because I think there's a lot of confusion out there
about it.
And so I just like, I kind of run through the basics and then at the end I was just
kind of tempted to say like, like get a little Canadian flag or something.
Be like, but none of this matters to me cause Apple pay is like there, it's only speculation
right now.
Apple won't comment on it, but the speculation is that it's like a year plus out for sure.
Even though the technology, it's like the actual, the phone and I'm, this is not an
Apple phone, but I hope you guys get my point.
The NFC chip is not revolutionary at all.
And I, and that's where a lot of the confusion about Apple pay versus Google wallet comes
from where people kind of go, Oh, well why is Apple getting so much attention and support
for this?
It's the same thing as Google wallet.
It's not on the backend.
It is not the same thing.
So Apple needs to build those relationships with the financial institutions, which are
very different in Canada from, from the U S in order to actually enable it and provide
the service here.
So yeah, so there you go.
I'm excited about this PayPal thing.
Five years from now.
Yeah, speaking of five years from now, originally posted by tech dreamer.
By the way, tech dreamer was also the one for the PayPal one and it was top war gamer
for the HP stream.
One.
We've got so much amazing news this week.
I'm going to let you go, go, go with this one.
So Oculus news, although I'm not also not hugely Oculus news at the same time.
A lot of people are freaking out about this because he's like, it's months away, not years.
Although the speculation still need 11 months or 15 months.
Yeah, the speculation for a long time has been late 2015.
So this isn't actually like, I was like, yeah, because this is more of a confirmation, which
is great cause I'm not super into rumors.
So this is actually coming from him, which is awesome because now we know it's coming
then.
But I think when the CEO says it's months away, I think the implication is not 11.9
months.
No.
The implication is cause when you say month, he says, he says many months I think.
Yeah.
It's months, not years away, but many months.
So he does mean quite a few.
I still think it'll be like Q3, probably Q4 2015.
But yeah, I'm, I'm super stoked.
If you haven't seen the new prototype that they released, it looks a lot wider.
It looks like they've probably messed with the aspect ratio a little bit, which could
be really cool.
They're still talking about how keyboard and keyboards, mice, game pads are all not really
up to the job and neither is like super basic gesture control.
He says they're urging larger companies not to rush their products out and to try and
just make the best solution they can and then release it because they don't want to like
you don't the waters with crappy products essentially.
Yes.
They don't want to spoil the awesomeness that is VR right now.
It has killed technologies in the past.
It's killed VR in the past.
Yep.
It has more than once actually.
So I think they're trying to make sure that other companies don't ruin it for all of the
companies that are trying to do it properly.
Not just Oculus, but all the companies that are trying to take their time and properly
release these products because they are extremely new and people are going to potentially get
extremely motion sick.
Well, we all saw Lou when we were trying out the roller coaster stuff.
When he tried the last one, he was like, no, I'm done.
Just immediately.
He couldn't handle it and it's going to hit people randomly and certain people will feel
it a lot more than others and it's not going to be like, I'm a big tough dude, so I don't
get motion sickness.
Like that's not really how it's going to work.
And it'll be different things that hit different people.
Like I was able to handle the rides, but in Kokiri Forest, when I fell off of a cliff,
the way that the camera was controlled by my fingers, but also by my head was just,
it felt like someone took my stomach and wrung it out like a dishcloth all of a sudden.
And it took a while of like, oh wow, I better not touch that thumb stick to have it settle
down again.
So it's, it's real.
It's a real thing.
It's real.
Like you just definitely said, it totally affects people differently.
Some people can like be standing up facing backwards during a roller coaster ride and
not care and then go through something like you did and be like, holy crap, that's not
okay.
Um, so yeah, we need to be careful, but it's coming soon, which is really cool.
I've been playing a little bit of X-wing lately cause I was just like, you had your stream.
Holy crap.
Oh, oh, oh, terrible story.
My top gun joystick.
Oh no.
Last night.
Oh no.
I was like, I was like, I was kind of too excited and I had my son on my lap.
So like I was kind of awkward and I was like, I was going around, I was dog fighting with
a Thai fighter and I was like, pew, pew, pew, snap.
Oh, my trigger button snapped inside the housing.
It's, it's a clean break.
It sounds like it might be repairable.
It's a clean break.
Okay.
And I think that the solution is going to be one of two things or both.
So maybe as a temporary fix, um, what I can do is cause superglue never works for something
like that, but what you can do, what I've actually had a lot of success with is a thin
needle and heat it up with a blow torch, red hot.
You position it in the right place to glue it together and then you actually stab through
the break from different angles and then you kind of melt around the outside and smooth
it.
Yeah.
I have found that that has held up almost as well as the original strength.
Welding.
Yeah.
So like kind of like plastic, plastic welding.
So I'm going to try that and then if that doesn't work, then I'll, someone in Twitch
is going to be like, Oh my God, that's not welding at all.
But like, we know.
So then I'll, I'll figure out a way to 3d print one.
And then that'll make my top gun joystick even cooler because I can get like a bright
orange or like bright pink trigger on it.
So I was so sad cause I was like, I thought you were going to tell me that story.
I thought you were going to like snap it off the base or something.
No, no, no.
I was like, Oh my God.
But I was upset because I was playing with my son and he was enjoying blowing up the
bad guys.
He's, he's, he hasn't, this is only the second time he's actually seen a game being played.
Like I don't really do the whole lots of screen time with him thing.
I don't really believe in it.
I think little kids should spend most of their time in reality.
Um, but, uh, but he was really, he was really enjoying it.
And so we had, I never game with speakers anymore because usually he's sleeping.
So we had the speakers on so he could actually hear the voice chatter over the radio and
like pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
And he loves the star Wars movies.
He's only seen them once again, not a ton of screen time with them, but he had a Darth
Vader plush from when he was very little.
And I have the most adorable videos.
Cause we used to play this game with him when he was really quite young where I would lift
him up and I would say, um, say goodnight monkey.
And he had like a vinyl monkey sticker on his wall and say, say goodnight giraffe.
And there's like a giraffe sticker.
And he would like say, and so he'd be all happy and he'd be like, yeah, yeah.
And so, you know, say goodnight, goodnight.
And then, um, I'd say, say goodnight, Darth Vader.
And he would squirm and try to get away from him because he had like a voice thing like
so I played it a couple of times and it's amazing how the, the, the psychological fear
that goes into something like a costume design goes so much deeper than that character did
bad things and is therefore scary.
That mask is frightening even without the voice and even without the, the actions of
the, you're building up the planet Alderaan and forcing Leia to watch, like even without
that, it's terrifying.
So he didn't like Darth Vader for a long time and I would do it to him all the time cause
I thought it was hilarious.
So every night before bed, it'd be like, say goodnight monkey.
Say goodnight Darth Vader.
No, no, no Darth Vader, no Darth Vader.
And um, I forget where I was going with this.
Right.
So, so he, he really liked the, the star Wars-y-ness of it as well.
So that's, uh, I, this became a long rambly story.
I liked it.
I thought that was cool.
Intel, we're finally getting some details and this was posted by Tech Fanboy about the
upcoming LGA 1151 and Z 17-0, Z170 chip set.
Really 170?
It's like, this is what Intel does when they run out of numbers.
Like okay.
In LGA 1151, they're going to run out of numbers between 1,150 and 1,159.
I was pretty tired when I read this and I saw 1151 and all I could think of was like,
they should have had this giant ridiculous press conference and then just been like slowly
put the letters on screen like L G A and then 11 and like, and have it like fairly rhythmically
in the 1150 and then like a huge delay, one, and then like fireworks, like crazy pyrotechnics,
dubstep pyrotechnics, like, Oh my God, it's a one.
That's all I can think of.
So now we've had, now there's officially no pattern.
Intel is officially as good at naming things as Microsoft because we've got 1156, 1155,
1150 and 1151 so we were going backwards and then a lot backwards and then a little bit
forward.
So to be clear, guys, that's not because it's the number of the socket, it's the number
of pins in the socket, so I get it, but it's going to support both DDR4 and DDR3 memory,
which is pretty cool, but not at the same time.
You'll have to choose and I mean, guys, basically it's going to come down to, this is like a
stepping stone one, just like how the nine, I want to say 925 chipset supported both DDR1
and DDR2.
That's what we're looking at.
Again, there's not going to be a big performance difference between them.
It's going to be buy whatever's cheaper at the time that you're buying whatever it is
you're buying.
Uh, the new chip set supports single by 16 dual by eight X or a single eight X and two
four X PCI express 3.0 slots.
I really hope that Nvidia at some point revises their SLI guidelines so that we can have triple
SLI on eight, four and four.
But I also kind of understand why, especially if what I suspect they're doing is doing more
communication over the PCI express bus is actually happening, um, supports two memory
channels with two modules each, um, six say to three, six gigabit per second ports and
20 lanes for PCI total will support a maximum of three say to express X two ports and either
four and dot two or two say to express actually not a hundred percent sure if those are completely
transcribed correctly, but, uh, the original articles from kit guru.net so you guys can
check it out over there and the boards will support up to 14 USB ports, 10 of which can
be Intel USB 3.0 ports, but as of now, USB 3.1 is unsupported.
So that's the new 10 gigabit per second USB.
I would, yeah, not super interested, but in USB 3.1 no in, in because it largely because
it doesn't have that.
Hmm.
Yeah.
That, and these are going to be for Broadwell processors, which are, we have another article
I'm going to scroll down to it, but upcoming Broadwell is rumored to be 3% faster than
Haswell clock for clock.
So unless Intel has found a way to squeeze higher clock speeds out of their chips for
the first time in a lot of generations, uh, we're not going to see like a massive paradigm
shifting performance improvement.
So don't, uh, don't throw away your LGA 1150 PC just yet.
Yeah, not so much.
Um, Donagate was canceled and I don't know how many people cared, but you can get your
money back.
So if you bought into Dongate, go get your money back.
Well, I think that's cool.
I think the fact that they're just, it's cool that they canceled it.
I think it's cool that they're giving everyone's money back and I think it's cool that they
had the balls to cancel something instead of just bringing it to market and getting
a bunch of people to buy it and then I think that this, one thing that's also cool if we're
going to jump on the, to be clear.
So Dongate was an EA sort of league of legends style MOBA, uh, is that they're letting it
continue to operate for 90 days.
Yep.
So people that did like it can kind of wean themselves off, which is actually kind of
cool.
So it's been in beta for 18 months and basically what they had to say was, well, we built a
game that wasn't just a clone of existing MOBAs, but that tried to push the push things
forward and it didn't work.
So, so it's, the project's off, it's done.
Uh, everyone gets a refund and we're, we're not going to try and turn this into something
that it's not.
And I say, good job, EA.
There's no actual negative news here.
Yeah.
Like how is, how is, unless you really liked Dongate.
Yeah.
And like, well, okay, there's going to be people that really liked Dongate.
Every single time that a game gets closed, there's people that get screwed over and that
really sucks.
But at least they don't get screwed out of any money.
Yes.
They don't get any money and they don't get this like abandoned, abandoned empty experience,
which the game probably would have turned into and then just been depressed and had
bad memories.
Now they're like, I liked that game and it sucks that it didn't become a thing.
Yeah.
That was fun.
That was cool.
I mean, I think the only thing EA could do to make this even cooler and for them to be
like, wow, good guy EA and we would actually, okay, we would have, we would have like some
credit or something.
No.
There's nothing to do.
Actually, that would be okay.
That would work.
They like gave them a game on the origin store.
Some credit in the origin store.
Yeah.
Here's five bucks off a new game.
Go enjoy something else.
Hey, we're sorry about this.
Yeah.
That would be super cool.
Another super cool thing would be if they turned the game over to some of us, turn the
game over to the community and went, look, okay, that would be awesome.
We're not going to support it anymore, but you know what?
If you guys really want to run with this, then go for it.
Like the Netscape thing where they're like, we're kind of closing off, but you can have
it and then Firefox jumps on the train and carries it forward or, or whatever it is.
Whatever would actually be super awesome.
Yeah.
I don't think they will, but that would be super awesome.
Cause I think that for, for like a, even for the open source community to try to develop
a game from square one is a bit of an ambitious project.
And if they could take this even just as a framework and nuke a lot of it and recreate
things, that would be a lot easier.
Yeah.
That'd be, that'd be a very, very, very cool thing in this world of microtransactiony actually
massive companies that have this image of like, you know, good guy riot, but these are
like big companies with a lot of money that like, it's, it's funny because people kind
of go, Oh, like Apple, like big company, therefore like bad or whatever.
But these gaming companies are also like big, super money driven companies.
So don't kid yourself.
I mean, I would think, I think it would be really cool for, for just a community driven
project to come in and challenge something like that.
I really don't think it'll happen, but it would be awesome.
Then a bunch of money would get involved and some people would rise to the top and they'd
make a bunch of money.
It would turn into the same thing all over again.
I mean, it's just one of those things.
Money is what it is.
I feel like right now Ubisoft and EA are really close to each other and Ubisoft is like digging
really ferociously and throwing the dirt over into EA's hole and filling it up.
The word hole can never escape an awkward cause.
I know, I didn't even mean that.
But like EA is not doing horrible things.
I know.
It's amazing.
It's like they care.
They had that big patch for Battlefield 4.
They gave away some free stuff to people using Sims.
They aren't pulling, pulling their games out of, out of Steam in the UK with the rumor
being that they're going to pull their games out of Steam entirely, their Christmas launch
games.
Did they already?
I'm like, I'm pretty sure this is like a, it's, it's out of Steam or at least it's out
of Steam in UK and I believe US.
I think the outrage for this should have been at the fact that if you bought one of their
games on Steam already, it was just giving it to you in Uplay and it just launched Uplay.
I think that's where the rage should have been because this honestly doesn't really
change anything.
Yeah, you're right.
You're going from not being able to buy it in Steam.
I mean you're going from being able to buy it in Steam, but realistically just having
the game on your Uplay account and having to run Uplay and having to launch the game
out of Uplay and dealing with all the crap that that has to just not being able to buy
it on Steam and having the entire rest of the experience be exactly the same.
So I think the rage should have already happened and it should have been from the forcible
use of Uplay and this should have just been piled on top of that because that was super
annoying because the conversation that we had...
Double DRM is lame and bad.
It is really lame.
It's like games for Windows Live, that, that whole stupid thing with, remember Batman Arkham
Asylum, how unless you like, how you could get stuck and it never got patched to my knowledge
until they finally just got rid of games for Windows Live entirely.
But there were, you could get stuck in a loop where you would sign into games for Windows
Live and it would reboot the game and unless you did something, it would make you sign
in again and reboot the game again and you could do it over and over and over again.
I got that game from my brother for Christmas and he never ended up playing it.
Not because he didn't want to play it, but because he couldn't.
Did he run into that problem?
Yeah.
Like, it's just...
What?
I forget what the solution was.
I haven't touched the game in a long time.
It's just, it was so much work and eventually he's just like, whatever, I don't have that
much time to sit down and play games because he worked a lot of the time.
Well, he still does.
Um, so he's like, I just, I'll just play something else.
All right.
So there were rumors floating around that Zalman filed for bankruptcy, however, uh,
they have, they have sort of spoken up now and there's going to be some kind of an official
statement at some point here.
But what they're saying is, well, hold on a second.
No, our business is fine.
Um, it's the parent company, uh, Monail.
I've, I used to know how to pronounce this because, uh, NCIX brought in a bunch of cases
from them like four years ago or something like that.
And it was like a super amazing deal or something.
Anyway.
Um, so it's actually their parent company that allegedly is, is, is suspected of taking
loans that it could not repay and then fabricating export documents to inflate its perceived
value and get approval on large loans.
Apparently they're in debt, 2.98 billion us or something like that.
Um, an unnamed employee reports that the management team, uh, was behind the fabrication.
And uh, so yeah, apparently Zalman may still come out of this.
Okay.
Remember just because the parent company is out of money and like bad people doesn't mean
that Zalman couldn't be acquired by someone else and then continue doing business the
way that they're doing it.
So if you're a Zalman fan, just kind of relax for a little bit and let's see what comes
up.
Very, very possibly still be totally fine.
All right.
I really wish I could screen share for this next one, Amazon echo, the like least useful
thing that I've talked about today.
So my, my comment was that it's for people that, what is that?
My comment is that it's for people that don't have like an old phone that they can put on
a speaker dock, um, and leave there forever.
And your comment was, Oh, my comment was that it's for people who
don't have a phone at all at all.
So basically it's, it, it's like, it's Google now or Siri, except it's a device that sits
on your desk and plugs into the wall instead of just being in your pocket all the time.
Move it around.
It's like, it's not even battery powered.
So that's, that's why I was thinking like if you had an old phone and a speaker dock,
you just create this thing.
The speaker dock is because the built-in speakers on phone are probably crap and this is probably
better than it.
If you had a speaker dock, you could easily get speakers that are way better than this
thing.
Okay.
And then just use Google.
So let's go through what it does.
It's a 200 bucks or a hundred bucks if you're on prime for a limited time and it's a speaker.
So you talk to it and you say, so whatever, what's the keyword like Serax or something
like that.
I thought it was like some chick's name.
Alexa.
Okay.
So you say Alexa to address it.
That's Alexa, they're close, um, so information, music, news, weather, and more instantly,
or at least as long as it takes for you to say, Alexa, can you please play some one direction
for me?
Because that's not faster than just being like blah, blah, blah on your phone.
Um, it's controlled by your voice for hands-free convenience.
Okay.
Voice recognition.
Here's your from across the room.
So far we've got three bullet points that are all the same thing as far as I can tell.
And then it's connected to the cloud.
So it's always getting smarter.
Now I do have to say this.
I funded, I don't know if you remember this, that stupid robot thing that I funded on Kickstarter.
Um, I funded that just because I wanted to get it and it was going to be like a PSA about
how bloody stupid crowdfunding is.
By the time I ever get it, that whole message will be dead and gone.
Just like crowdfunding.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, wrecked.
It'll be like a retro unboxing and unboxing of why crowdfunding failed.
Um, if they ever even deliver it, so like mini documentary on why crowdfunding.
So the reason I think that one's going to fail is because it's supposed to do all this
stuff interactively with you and they're such a small company.
They just don't have the resources to do it properly.
Amazon might.
So the fact that it's going to continue to learn as time goes on might be somewhat useful,
but I just don't see it being any more useful than something like Google now or Siri, which
are already going to be connected much, much more tightly with the rest of your digital
life and the rest of your smart home and smart car stuff, um, the way that your phone will.
So it's got wifi and Bluetooth connectivity, so it could be in theory connected very well,
but probably won't be because this is probably some weird project that's just going to go
away.
I'll be floored if we ever see an echo too.
Um, and it's got seven mics.
Depends if they still have fire phones left.
Oh yeah.
The, yeah, the, the joke, the joke going around on the web is that's what they're doing with
all the fire phone hardware, which I find hilarious because it might be accurate.
So it's got seven beamforming microphones with great noise cancellation.
So even if it's playing music, it can still hear you from across the room, which I guess
is neat except that my phone doesn't have to hear me from across the room cause I'm
already holding it and my smartwatch I can also talk to, although I'm not actually a
huge fan of the Moto 360 so far, but again, I've only spent a day with it, so lots of
time for that to change.
Um, advanced audio design.
It has a massive 2.5 inch subwoofer.
I'm like, I'm a huge proponent for voice control stuff.
Not that interested.
Like I, I, I've been toying with this idea for a while where if I like set up a server
that had dragon speaking on it, um, I could have, this is going to take me a sec, but
this is something I've been playing with for a while.
It's right now.
It's just too expensive to properly do.
And it's going to take a while.
Can I jump in before you do it then?
Yeah.
Warto, Warto, will the echo to be called the echo echo, hopefully, um, and the echo
three will be the echo echo, sorry, go ahead.
I want to set up an array of little microphones, like all around my place and then have a like
little central server that has something like dragon speaking hooked up to it so that I
can just, it can pick up whatever and just look for keywords.
And then if I say like, uh, play music, uh, some band, one direction, one, I don't have
any of that, but sure.
Sure.
Anyways, it would be able to pick that up and then actually just do that and I could
have like a library of keywords that I set up and program and tell them what to do that
could actually be really cool.
The reason why I would like that set up is I can be anywhere and like this thing, I don't
care about their stupid several microphones.
You're not going to be able to be anywhere in your house and have it work.
You'd have to be like within that room.
Maybe you don't have to be as close to get your phone to work, although to be completely
honest, if I just talk loud enough, my phone can usually pick up if I, uh, call for it.
That's how I find it.
Sometimes this is one of those products that I just don't get because like this, the cynic
in me, if it was a company that's smaller than Amazon, I would kind of go, okay, they're
trying to fund the next wave by selling a bunch of these things that ultimately they
have to know are going to be useless because ultimately as, so let's, let's look at the
five year, the 10 year outlook.
You know, when you've got your nest thermostat and you've got your self locking, what is
it?
Genie door.
I forget what that, that smart door lock is and you got all this crap and your house starts
to get way more smart and way more connected with internet of things stuff just kind of
naturally over time because it happens no matter what you want because ultimately you're
going to, you're going to go to Best Buy one day to buy a dishwasher and every, it's going
to be $20 more for the smart connected model and you might as well just get it.
So it just happens over time.
And so this device will never be useful for that because as, as the idea gets bigger and
the functionality gets bigger, the idea of something that sits on your desk is going
to look even more stupid as every day passes.
So I would look at it and I would go, okay, they're just trying to get some money to fund
the actual product.
But what's Amazon's excuse?
Because they could afford to just keep developing this and keep, keep working on it until something's
actually ready.
Amazon doesn't seem to be doing super well with the hardware stuff.
Kindle's great.
Okay.
I take that back.
Maybe their, their Kindle hubris led them to believe that people wanted something other
than a way to read books from them.
Yeah.
Like your phone sucks and this Echo thing is stupid and you should feel bad.
Oh, I've got someone saying, Linus, I work in HVAC.
Trust me when I say that Nest thermostats are a pita.
I believe you.
Actually, Nest was one of those companies that I kind of went, really?
You got acquired by Google for a billion dollars?
Are you freaking kidding me?
They've had what, like three recalls in their history?
Maybe it's only two, but they were like a big deal.
Like I think their, their smoke detector was recalled because of something like, not good.
That's like your smoke detector to be terrible, like awful, like the amount of crap that Nest
has gotten away with just by being like a, like a Silicon Valley connected web 2.0 company
is just mind boggling to me.
And the idea that you need a smart thermostat is still just kind of baffling to me.
I have a smart thermostat.
It's called, I program it to maintain the temperature in my house at a certain threshold.
And if I'm leaving the house for like the weekend, I turn it off and then it comes back
on automatically because you have a schedule for it, like not a big deal.
I get that some people might save a lot of power if they keep their house at 28 degrees
Celsius or whatever else.
It's like, yeah, we have the sauna house, so we only want to heat it when we're actually,
you know, running around naked or no, not running around naked, lounging naked because
if we were running, we'd be generating enough.
Maybe one of these days I'll try a Nest and then I'll, I'll tell you guys, holy crap,
I was wrong.
It's revolutionary.
But for now it feels like one of those things I don't really need.
It also doesn't help that my house only has two wires running to my thermostat, so I'm
not even Nest compatible unless I wanted to run wires through my wall, which would involve
tearing out my wall.
Which does not sound like fun.
Which is not happening.
Let's not do that.
All right.
Uh, what else we got here?
That's I think most of the like really big topics this week, isn't, isn't it?
Yeah.
We have some rapid fiery stuff.
We have that dude's man cave, which we can't show because we don't have screen sharing
working.
Um, future mark acquired by UL.
That's a big deal actually.
So UL are the guys that have like a little logo, not this one.
You'll find it on a lot of different, the charger for this will definitely have a UL
logo stuff.
Yeah.
So basically they, they do certification and testing really important stuff that they do
really, really good so that you know, your iPhone charger doesn't light on fire.
That's the kind of stuff they do and that's why buying cheapo stuff that's not certified
by UL can be a little bit risky because they, they do a great job and they acquired future
mark, the makers of PC mark and 3d mark with the intention of branching into a, well basically
just just I guess adding another, another testing benchmark essentially.
It's just, it's a software benchmark.
So future mark has been developing all kinds of stuff.
In the old days it was just 3d mark.
You tested graphics cards and that was it.
And then they were like, Oh, well, you know, maybe 3d mark can, you know, also test like
physics on your graphics card.
Well, hold on a second.
Maybe we'll make PC mark and they'll test your whole PC.
And then they've got mobile phone stuff and like all this crazy stuff like that's great.
Having a big company like UL behind future mark, turning it into something that really
could be more than just this like weird like it industry standard.
Like if you could go to best buy and the PCs would be sorted by future mark score or something
like that.
That's so much more meaningful.
It's not perfect at all, but it's so much more meaningful than megahertz that I see
it as a huge step in the right direction.
I think it's awesome.
Should we wreck Ubisoft for a little bit?
Sure.
Yeah, I'll let you do it.
Wait, can I do the gold Apple watch first?
Yes.
Okay.
So the gold Apple watch estimated to cost $5,000.
This is a rumor.
It was posted by pit 5,000 on the forum and it is rumored that it will debut on February
14th.
Valentine's day.
Probably not an accident.
5,000.
Oh snap.
Oh snap.
Get it?
Roses.
Oh, I thought you meant Rose because the price went up a lot from what people thought it
would be.
Oh snap.
We're awful.
We are.
So rumored to be $5,000 for gold edition.
It's unclear whether they're solid or plated, but let me tell you guys, it's Apple.
It's plated and $500 for the steel version with the sport version, which was rumored
to be sort of like just the, just the tip of the iceberg in terms of pricing that they
unveiled being the lowest cost version as rumored to be 18 karat gold with Sapphire
crystal glass and come with a variety of luxurious strap options.
It's unclear.
Oh, okay.
So I just said that.
So to all the people kind of running around going, Apple is overpriced and that's totally
unreasonable.
Shut up.
Watches are overpriced and watch pricing is unreasonable for once.
It is not Apple setting the precedent here.
They are just expanding into a market that is already charging way too much.
If you look at it from a bill of materials cost perspective.
So nothing new move along $5,000 for a high end watch is like nothing to see here, guys.
Me personally, I think it's ridiculous.
Oh yeah.
I'd never buy one.
And I've lots of people that do never buy one, but lots of people do.
In fact, even like otherwise like normal people who have real jobs might own a Rolex because
they, that particular status symbol of a watch is very, very important to them.
The one thing that I have to say about this is Apple do this, right?
Even if the hardware changes on a very rapid basis, you cannot treat a $5,000 watch the
same way that you do something relatively disposable.
Like even at a thousand dollars, a smartphone, because if they roll out a new iteration that
is dramatically better than the old one every year at $5,000, even people with $5,000 to
spend on a watch are going to get pissed.
So there.
That's true.
Tim Cook.
I hope you're listening.
Um, no, one thing that you, the deal you did with your glasses so that you got your glasses,
what was that like?
You had to have a certain pair and not lose them or something.
Oh, with my, uh, with my, my Oakley's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm, I'm, I'm a bit of a cheapskate.
I'm also a bit of a scatterbrain.
So the deal that my wife actually made with me was you can get nice sunglasses, like the
kind with polarized lenses and like shatter resistant lenses that look good and feel good
and are like a couple hundred bucks.
If you get some like cheapo foster grants at the drug store and can manage to not lose
those for a few months.
And so I did, and it was actually an excellent exercise and being very conscious of having
a goal to work towards to not lose it.
And then I did end up earning my awesome sunglasses that I have now never lost, even though I
used to lose glasses all the time.
I will not have a super nice watch, um, because, and maybe I'll redo this at some time, but
when I was younger, I went to the store and bought a fairly cheap one and lost it within
like a week.
And then was like, I will never have a super nice watch.
I've done that with jewelry as well.
And I'm just like, I can't just keep things on my hands because it'll, it'll be annoying
cause I'll be doing something like I'll have to pull something or do whatever and I'll
and it will never come back.
And I know that so I will just not have one.
That's fine.
Well, I'll tell you what, we'll get you like a, like a baby's first smartwatch.
We'll get you a trainer watch before, uh, before you drop your five grand and go buy
a watch.
Those little tracking ones that the kids get from them.
Yeah, no, no, it shouldn't tell the time.
It's, it's the kind with the little balls in it that you like, I'll be like, look, you
can game on your, on your mobile.
No one else can game on their watch.
I'm like the only person.
It's fantastic.
I have the highest end watch actually.
Um, anyways.
Okay.
Want to hate on Ubisoft for a bit?
Yeah.
I have an actual lower third for this.
You know what?
I'll go find it while you work on this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fun.
So we can't show you, which totally sucks.
This topic is posted by, uh, the future mark topic was posted by duck dog Dodgers.
Okay.
And then this one, which is about screenshots from assassin creed, PS4 version of unity,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Is from test stranger.
Um, by the way, one of the reasons why we might've had a little bit of a lower user
count was also because there's not only Blizzcon running right now, but also there was an Ubisoft
stream showing off his house and screen running right now.
Oh, I'm amazed we even have 5,200 years.
Thank you.
Thanks for showing up.
I really appreciate it.
I do too.
I'm not super surprised that you're not watching the assassin's creed one.
Um, but the Blizzcon one is pretty interesting, uh, reasons why I'm not super surprised you're
not watching the assassin's creed one is I tuned in for a little bit and was like, wow,
this game looks super old.
What?
Um, and it's not 1080p on PlayStation four, usually from the two consoles.
We see PlayStation four able to step up to the plate and show off 1080p, but it is not
happening.
The pixel count confirms a native resolution of 1600 by 900, which is not like, oh, it
has a white background.
Dang it.
Oh, way to go.
Berkel.
Okay.
Well anyway, that's what our lower third, we should probably take that caterpillar logo.
I was just gonna say brought to you by caterpillar because digging, I know, but yeah, but we
should, we should pull that out, but that's going to be our keep on digging lower third
and we're going to have a shirt coming soon.
I was gonna say, cause it's not actually brought to you by caterpillar had nothing to do with
it.
They might get mad about that.
Yeah.
So leave caterpillar out of it.
But anyway, Ubisoft go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we can't really show you the screenshot right now cause this thing isn't working,
but it doesn't look good.
And like I watched their stream and it doesn't look good.
Like the new cod looks better than it and I should never be able to say that.
Yeah.
That's, that's pretty harsh burn.
Yeah, no, but the new cod is like, looks okay.
It does.
Animations look good.
The, especially in cinematics, the new cinematics and cod, if you can actually get the voice
track to line up with the video, damn it, um, is actually pretty impressive.
And the in-game textures on like water bottles and you mock up to them and stuff.
It's like, wow, that's not horrible because you expect from Call of Duty that it's going
to be super bad.
Um, and from the stream so far and from some of the images that we've seen about Assassin's
Creed, it looks kind of bad.
Like it, I don't know, we're, we're going to have to wait until we have the PC version.
Mind you, what I will say is that seeing it at the Nvidia GTX 980 event, that was where
I first saw Assassin's Creed Unity footage was not blown away.
No.
I don't know, kind of not super sure about that.
Um, yeah, kind of not stoked.
It doesn't look great.
And like something that was brought up last week, which was where one of the developers
at Ubisoft was saying like, oh yeah, people play these games that are like pixel platformers
and they're okay with it, but then they want 1080p all the time and stuff.
And it's like, yeah, it's an art style.
This is why Nintendo gets away with it is they pick a cartoony art style.
This is why Blizzard gets away with it.
Yeah, exactly.
This is why Team Fortress 2 gets away with it.
It looks really good because it's a style that is not super hard to run.
You picked a very realistic art style that was your choice and it has looked good in
the past, but it doesn't look good right now and that's on you.
Yeah.
That sucks.
And it's about expectation management.
If you're like, yeah, we're like the next genest gen that ever had 30% more gen than
the gen before.
And we've got like 10 billion different technologies from Nvidia and all that kind of stuff.
Then that's what we expect to see.
Whereas if I'm playing retro games and I'm like playing X-Wing and I'm going to, I have
to fix my joystick tonight now that I've been talking about it.
Anyway, if I'm playing retro games, well, that's my expectation.
I'm not expecting it to look amazing.
Yeah.
Um, speaking of things that look amazing, I found your smartwatch.
Oh yes.
This has to be it.
So add a screen region here.
Yeah, baby.
That.
There we go.
Oh, that's the back of it.
This was a suggestion from, um, one of the folks on, uh, there we go.
Oh yeah.
Oh, that's beautiful pink Snoopy pink Snoopy for, for three, $3 and 81 cents United States
7% off 7% free shipping to Canada and it's $3 and 80 cents.
That's ridiculous.
I know, right?
Isn't that amazing?
Deal.
Extreme.
Deal.
Extreme is amazing.
It's the best place to get like obscure batteries.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then one that I didn't actually think was that big of a deal, but it was funny.
Is that Ubisoft is partnered with, uh, let me see here two days cause it's not actually
in the title.
I think it's Gillette.
It says edge company or is that edge edges of the company?
Yeah, I think so.
Is it?
I don't even know.
Or it's like a model or something.
We're kind of dollar shave club guys.
Some other shaving product.
I think they're called the edge.
I don't know.
It's shaping cream.
Anyways, you get a sword, some armor and an assassin's hood.
Yeah.
So, okay, hold on.
I will let you talk about this.
Okay.
Hold on from it.
Does the style of the hood make it an assassin's hood or does the person wearing it make it
an assassin's hood?
So you could have like a bonnet and it could be an assassin's hood if it's being worn by
an assassin.
Right.
I think so.
It could be a bonnet.
Anyways, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
It's just kind of funny.
This has happened in the past.
So if we didn't bring it up for other companies, we can't really like hammer on them too hard.
But like if there's no other way to get these items, that's kind of poopy.
It is nice that they're probably just cosmetic.
So it probably doesn't change anything.
So I don't really care about that too much.
And some people have been like, oh my God, why would they partner with shaving cream?
That has nothing to do with gaming.
And I'm like, yeah, well, your audience is whatever insanely high percentage male.
So shaving cream makes sense.
Are you generalizing about gamers?
Yeah, actually statistics get wrecked.
So anyway, on that note, I forget what I was going to talk about, but I think that's pretty
much it for the show today.
I enjoyed the show.
I hope you guys enjoyed it too.
And part of the generalizing about males thing is that they don't have any main characters
that are female and that's actually been brought up as a problem.
So maybe it's Ubisoft's fault.
What they could have done is if they had at least one out of the four main characters
as a female, they could have had like, you get different items for the different assassins
because there's the four assassins, right?
So they could have had four different shaving cream bottles and you get like, and like Yoko
Ono.
Not Yoko, because bad singing talent is not something that is required as an assassin.
No, but she could be like bad at fighting.
You could have like the four musketeers and like Yoko, that, that would be what the female
gamers want to see.
That would be gender equality.
I really don't.
Yeah, I really think that would go over very poorly.
No.
Okay.
That's not how it should go.
That would make everything worse because it's terrible.
Not because like it was, had well intentions, it's just, it would make everything worse
because it's dumb and bad.
That'd be all the digging.
Yeah, that would be a terrible idea.
But yeah, I think it would make sense to say if they had two male assassins, two female
assassins, if they had two like edge, whatever male version and maybe if edge has a female
products.
I don't know.
I don't know what edge is.
Everyone's just talking about Yoko Ono in the chat now.
I still don't understand how Jon didn't tell Ono not to shave their feminists.
Oh no, sorry.
That was two different comments.
Didn't tell Ono to stop her yelling.
Sorry.
Sometimes the chat moves as you're reading and it, sorry.
I think we're done here.
Guys, thank you for watching and we'll see you again next week.
Bye bye.
Learning.