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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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All right, we're live and we were in here kind of pumping ourselves up pre-show.
I don't know if you guys heard that, but we're like, are you ready to rock?
And then some chick drives by and she's like yelling out her car window.
I don't know if she was replying to us or not, but that was pretty awesome timing either
way.
The timing was most exceptional.
It was really good.
Yeah.
So she might've been, which was fantastic.
Anyways, what do we got going on?
We have a great show for you guys today and we are both burning to talk about what's going
on with CSGO multiple times leading up to the show, in spite of the fact that we've
barely seen each other today, we've started talking about it and then we have to give
ourselves disciplinary.
Stop.
Stop.
No, save it for the show.
Save it for the show.
So we're going to talk about what's going on at DreamHack right now with Team Fanatic
and CSGO.
Also, Ubisoft has taken a small break from digging, at least on Assassin's Creed Unity.
They might be following up with some more digging with their other franchises, but we
got to give them credit where credit is due.
And when they do the right things, if we're going to like, if we're going to ream on them
for doing the wrong things, then we have to congratulate them for doing the right things.
What else we got today?
Asrock has an X99 board coming out, which has two 10 gigabit NICs and two gigabit NICs,
which is insanity.
I have two NICs as well.
There are two people named Nick who work here.
Yes.
What else we got?
I was trying to find more Nick jokes.
It is not December yet.
So well, as long as you, you know, use an older joke, it might have a couple of nicks
in it.
Yes.
Okay.
Nintendo also follows patents for Game Boy emulation, finally.
And that's, I think mainly on Android, I think, but anyways, we'll talk more about that later.
All right.
So we've got a couple of people complaining that there's no sound, but then we've got
other people enjoying the Nick jokes.
So you're going to want to refresh your stream there.
Oh wow.
Epic fail.
There we go.
Well, here's a hint as to who's the, one of the sponsors today, Derpy Derp.
I love this show.
It's kind of fantastic.
Cause when it breaks, it's better.
We're like that, you know that like Japanese art of fixing things with that, the golden
fill.
No, I can't remember what it's called, but like in a cup breaks, they'll fix it with
a golden fill.
It's supposed to look even more beautiful.
So as the land show breaks, we make it even better.
So our sponsors today are five, four club, making things better by making them worse.
One sponsorship deal at a time.
And Squarespace where they actually do try to make things better.
They both try to make things better.
Five four tries to make you look better.
Squarespace tries to make your website look better in between the both of them.
You should have a more professional, personal image.
I salvaged it while we're wearing Christmas sweaters.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Oh, did you see the fan art of the, of the shark?
So good.
That was so awesome.
I tweeted it out earlier this week.
All right.
No, I, now I'm going to, we're going to have to have a little bit of discipline.
Let's do, let's do Ubisoft first.
Okay.
Okay.
So hold on.
Let's just find the, let's find the unity topic here.
Nope.
That brought up opportunity.
Okay.
So this was posted by a Raph Benayen on the forum.
The original source is, I'm sorry, yeah, that's right.
If you wait, do you want to do those?
You need to, I need to, there's reasons, new functionality added because we'll try to fix
that for next week.
That's good enough for me because reasons is good enough.
All right.
So there's the link to the thread on linustechtips.com and the basic premise here is, and I'm even
going to remember to screen share with you guys this week.
Okay.
Well the page isn't really loading, but the awesomeness.
All right.
So there you go.
Wait, I don't usually load the Linus Tech Tips forum page.
That's right.
I usually load the source link.
Yeah, I know.
Um, okay.
So assassin's creed.ub.com the head of the game studio behind Assassin's Creed unity
has emailed players apologizing for bugs in the video game and offering them free content.
Which is pretty cool.
I know a lot of people were talking about how, um, they should have, I can't even find
this topic.
I read it, but I can't see it in there anyways.
No worries.
I know what's going on.
I know a lot of people were actually talking about how they wanted a recall on the game.
That's stupid.
That was a stupid article and no one recalls a video game.
The only reason you would recall anything is if there's like a safety hazard or it doesn't
even do what it said it did.
It's still an Assassin's Creed game.
Yeah, it doesn't run very well, but that's more of a yo dog, you probably shouldn't pre-order
our stuff anymore type situation than a recall situation.
How do you even recall?
It's like recalling a movie.
Well, yeah, that's a good point because you could have already possibly had the experience.
Um, but then you could recall a car after someone's driven it for a long time.
That's true, but you wouldn't give them a brand new car.
I don't even know what happens.
You wouldn't give them their money back.
You fix it.
Oh, okay.
That's how a car recall works.
A patch is basically how a car recall works.
So they already recalled it if they're patching it.
You know what?
That's kind of funny.
Well, what about the EV1?
If we made game developers call their patches recall notices.
Well, okay, I don't think that's fair because some patches could be like adding features,
not fixing things.
So that could be an expansion pack or a DLC, but it's, but if it's a bug fix, they have
to call it a recall notice.
They might not, they might try to make it from you.
That's true.
They're not recalling it.
That's true.
So, and since, okay.
So recall is dumb, basically anyone who bought Assassin's Creed unity will get a free copy
of dead Kings DLC, which is pretty cool.
And I believe it's people who bought the seasons pass are eligible for a free Ubisoft game
so you can pick from a Raymond, raving, Rab, raving rabbits.
I'm going to completely stop you because you're already wrong.
The crew far cry for watchdogs, Assassin's Creed, black flag, Raymond legends.
You never let me have fun.
I was going to come up with stuff like Prince of Persia sands of time.
No, it's actually like good games, like even games that aren't even out yet.
So you can get a copy of the mind you mind you, the crew might just be setting yourself
up for disappointment again, although we'll, we'll get into that topic next.
So I mean, I don't know what else there is to really say about this kudos to Ubisoft.
The seasons pass will be discontinued.
It's not like they've completely learned their lesson.
They didn't come out and say, we aren't going to do seasons passes anymore.
We're going to deliver all the content we can at launch.
And then if an expansion pack happens, it happens and it'll be an expansion pack, not
a nickel and diming you for every little thing.
I'm even okay with when they're like, yeah, we're going to finish the game at this date
and then we're going to work on one and it'll be ready when it's ready.
Probably a year from now.
But when they're fixing like in game currency to buy, you know, treasure chests and crap
and open chests versus having the game actually having like, like eyeballs floating around
there.
Like, oh yeah, you need to be online so you can open these chests and then being like,
oh yeah, you're having performance issues.
Just go offline.
It's just shut her down.
What?
Yeah.
Did we even cover the thing where they wanted, I think it was PS4 players to delete their
friends list or something like that.
Oh crap.
I can't remember.
I kind of ignore constantly.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
That's kind of funny.
Okay.
Do you want to move into the crew?
The crew.
So yeah.
So hold on, hold on.
By the way, there's two days left in the keep on digging shirt campaign.
I'm not wearing the right shirt, but this is also Highlander.
So it's a Linus tech tip shirt.
So you've got that much, right?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, keep on digging shirts are still available at a teespring.com slash keep on digging with
no G.
Those are going to be available for another couple of days to the gym.
And I think people thought it was like a workout thing.
Really?
Yeah.
I actually had quite a few people like reading my shirt.
I don't know.
That's totally off topic.
But anyways.
So the crew will not be given to reviewers before it's a release date Ubisoft is claiming
that this is because the crew is supposed to be a very large, expansive world experience
with a lot of other players in it.
And reviewers wouldn't have been able to experience that whole dynamic ecosystem, therefore rendering
it invalid.
And I get that.
It's kind of like if you weren't going to provide like, okay, okay, well, hold on.
There's flaws in the logic.
But just can you bear with me for I'm nodding because you were going to jump on me.
I was going to add stuff, actually, you were going to jump on me for what I was about to
say.
So for me, it would be about like, not providing reviewer copies of Wow, like, oh, that's actually
exactly what I was gonna add.
Okay, okay.
But but then that would be stupid, because if you hadn't provided reviewers copies of
Wow, that would because they couldn't experience an MMO the way that it's meant to be experienced
with other players, that would basically mean that you didn't test it at all, which leads
us to the next part where they see where they say that the Ubisoft the crew release will
be smooth that the the I believe it was one of the lead about lead designer says he's
confident that it will go smoothly.
Reason being, we've reaped the benefits of a long beta program with 1000s of players
all over the world playing the game at the same time.
Why exactly weren't reviewers able to get this game?
Was it because there weren't 1000s of players all over the world being able to play with
them?
Oh, it seems like you solved that problem.
Give reviewers the damn game.
What are you doing?
Good.
Like, wow, had an open beta.
Yeah, I know pretty sure a reviewer could have jumped in the open beta that solves that
problem.
I left that off until we got to this part because the whole 1000s of players thing like
yeah, they solved that problem.
Tons of like every MMO that I really know of is I mean, if they've closed the beta down
by now, then arguably, yes, there are no one on the servers.
But then you could also say, Well, hold on a second, why don't they just leave the beta
users in there until lunch?
It's not like other games haven't done this or even send all your beta users a message
and be like, Oh, did you want to keep playing the game?
We're opening the servers again for 72 hours, whatever.
And then just don't tell them Oh, by the way, there's also the new reviewers on the surface.
Who cares?
That doesn't matter.
So then you know, you've got your your reviewers running around.
There's a bunch of people who've been playing the game for a while, which is good.
So they get to have that experience.
Whereas reviewers, actually, that's another really good point that I just made.
Whereas reviewers are going to be jumping into it with a whole bunch of noobs all over
the place, which might actually negatively affect the gameplay experience.
If you have that long term beta group that can kind of lead people around and get people
in on missions and stuff that might be more helpful.
You should be watching because that's a perfect idea.
You take your beta you end it four weeks before launch or whatever, then you open up like
a 72 hour period when you hand out the reviewer keys so that everyone who's been starved for
it for the last few weeks gets to jump in and the world is nice and active with people
who know what they're doing.
You know, if you want to surrender like your business practices division to Linus meeting
group, I'm sure we can handle it.
I'd be totally fine.
Stop making games that suck.
Common sense and logic.
Anyways.
So those were posted by E Dort master race on the forum.
The original article there was from digital spy.com for the crew not being given to reviewers
before release.
And then for the crew Ubisoft is sure that the crew launch will be smooth.
The original article there was from PC gamer.com and that was posted on the forum by master
disaster.
Yeah.
Okay.
So can we please yeah, yeah, let's let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's go.
This is the main event today.
My friends, um, hold on, let me just, I'm just, I know, right?
This is unbelievable.
So I'm just going to bring up, uh, okay, whatever the source that I have for right now is basically
a Reddit thread with people talking about it.
So I'll just fire this up.
But dream hack winter 2014 fanatic uses boost against LDLC.
So let's go ahead and fire this up.
This was originally posted on the forum by, uh, Oh crap, I forgot to put down the, uh,
the OP here, but I think that's important.
Giving people credit for contributing to the news section of Linus tech tips.com.
Here's the Reddit discussion right here.
Um, warning, this thread contains spoilers.
Oh, okay.
I guess spoiler alert if you follow esports events, uh, that's a good call.
Spoiler alert.
Don't listen to this part.
It's, although it's like literally everywhere, so good luck.
Okay.
So here, do you want to, so LDLC and fanatic are teams one and two, they played the first
game LDLC one, they played the second game fanatic, uh, fanatic one.
And to give you a little bit of history, a few fanatic players have been kind of pointed
out pretty heavily in this recent hacking point people out game that's been going on.
And a few of them have quite a bit of public evidence against them.
Yeah.
Um, what's his face.
There was a, there was a good compilation of, of Jeffs.
Yeah.
Jeffs.
Um, I still say give.
Yeah.
I know.
I'll find it.
I'll find it.
I'm going to keep going.
The third game was on map D underscore overpass.
Pretty interesting map and a map that valve has asked their competitive teams to help
them in terms of tuning and fixing any things that should be balanced or fixed on the map.
Anyways.
So the game was going 12 to three at halftime, LDLC was essentially wrecking fanatic, which
is, that's fine.
Um, but yeah, 12 to three at halftime.
And in the second half fanatic was on the CT side.
That's counter terrorist side.
A boost at the a bomb site was found where they, if they use a couple of players to kind
of stack on top of each other, they can get up on top of something by pixel walking a
little bit.
I think they were pixel pixel walking a little bit.
All this is a little bit early on.
So they could see the three main pathways on the map from this kind of perch way on
the back.
And they could use a sniper.
It's not like they could just see them.
They could use a sniper to shoot people from there, um, and actually kill them from extremely
far away from a position that you should not be able to see and or kill those people from.
Yeah.
There's a screenshot on the Linus tech tips forum of the, like the, the developer view
of the map where you can see where the, Oh, that's interesting, um, where you can see
that the areas that they're walking on are not supposed to be areas where you can walk.
And basically the, the reason for that is that you'll, you'll tend to curve surfaces
so you can end up with stray pixels that can be, that can be stood on.
Um, even though that's not the way that that surface was intended to be used.
So it's actually clearly states in the dream hack rules that pixel walking is not permitted.
Although I don't believe an official judgment has been passed down yet, um, because they're
going to be reviewing it and they have committed to do something, uh, by the end of today.
Um, but honestly with, with all the poo flying around right now over cheating and CS go,
um, with, I mean, we talked about this on the show last week, but with, with hacks as
blatant as pressing a button and then zeroing in on the head of the nearest enemy, uh, being
used and you know, there's a lot of denial about whether it's been used in competitive
play or not, but there's also evidence stacking up against certain players, lots of it stacking
up against certain players.
Um, this is terrible timing.
It puts fanatic under way more scrutiny than they otherwise would have been under.
And even if, even if the, I'm going to go ahead, I'm going to call it a cheat because
there is just no way.
Even if the cheat gets allowed, here we go, we've got an image or screenshot of the dream
hack rules.
Pixel walking is illegal.
Even if they end up getting away with this, the community is going to hate them for doing
this.
And like this is, this is stupid.
Most like, uh, we've talked a lot about how like it's very specifically e-sports.
It's not sports.
Well, um, that's something Linus likes to bring up all the time.
Uh, but something notable about that whole idea is that basically all the sports I've
ever played have pretty aggressive sportsmen, sportsmanship, uh, like rules, guidelines
you can get in trouble.
You can get put in penalty boxes.
You can be kicked out of games.
You can be kicked out of leagues for sportsmanlike conduct.
You can get like big fines, $10,000 much tens of thousands of dollar fines for doing unsportsmanlike
things in a game.
And this is one of the least sportsmanlike things you could ever do.
I would almost argue that in a fit of rage, mid-match swinging out at someone is almost
not the same as this because this wasn't one round.
This wasn't right after you got nailed by some dude.
This was for the rest of the match.
It was 12 to three.
They ended up winning.
What was it?
16, uh, 16, 13.
So the other team got one more game, one more match after they started using this.
And I believe that match was pistol round before they were able to buy a scout on the
second round so that they could start sniping from that position and then they won everything.
I think that's how it went.
I didn't actually see it.
So for people who don't pay much attention to competitive gaming, like when you're just
in a pub, um, you can see a kill cam a lot of the time.
So yeah, sorry.
Uh, yeah, like just a public random match on the internet.
You can see a kill cam and you can see where guys hit you from and you can even spectate
the other team a lot of the time.
Not the case here.
So until they could go back and watch the match replay or figure out where this guy
was in a place where where he should not have been, they had no way of discovering, um,
where they were getting hit from even.
Yeah.
There was, there was a lot of confusion trying to figure out where they're getting hit from.
Guys were dying and then guys were kind of looking around going like, where the heck
could we have possibly just been shot from?
And then that guy was dying.
Uh, it was a mess.
I think there might've only been one pathway that they could have possibly gone that wasn't
under vision of this sniper.
And eventually that sniper got an auto sniper, so it was just mowing people down and then
they could just essentially win everything because if there's only one path that they
could possibly be coming from and counter strike, you're, you're going to win.
Like I don't know.
Absolutely ridiculous, completely pathetic, insanely disrespectful.
Um, I have, I don't care about that team at all.
Every one of the teams should just be kicked out.
I don't know.
Absolutely ridiculous.
I hope DreamHack solves this properly.
I hope Valve solves this properly.
There should be sportsman like conduct rules.
Um, there's rules against what they just did, so hopefully they figure it out.
Um, I kind of hope that they were pixel walking just so that everything is no matter what
invalidated.
Uh, yeah, I used to watch counter strike a little bit.
I probably won't ever watch it again after the last little bit that's been going on.
Games in general are quite notorious for people hacking in them.
Counter Strike has always been on the top of that list of people talking about games
that people hack in.
So this is just kind of ridiculous.
No, I say top.
I think top of that list is a little bit aggressive.
What else would be about it?
I don't know.
Something like COD.
Hacking?
Maybe not in competitive play.
So fair.
Fair point.
Ah, okay.
Um, well I don't know.
I guess what else is there to say?
I wish I could find the, um, I wish I could find, what are you trying to find?
The uh, there's, there's a, the, the collection of GIFs that I was talking about from Flusha.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure Nick would be able to send it to us.
Yeah.
I was looking at it before, but basically it's just, it's just like hilariously bad.
Like you'll be looking over here and the camera just, it does like, it doesn't reload and
then snaps over to somewhere and then smooth movement again.
And then he, and then you can tell he moves his mouse to where the guy's going to come
around the corners.
Just, just unbelievable.
And like how some of this stuff is working is you'd be able to see at a LAN, oh my goodness.
Hello truck.
You'd be able to see at a LAN if someone is using a wall hack where they could see through
the wall.
So a lot of times it just puts your mouse cursor there.
Um, so one thing that I noticed even in watching one of these, uh, GIFs of Flusha was he was
going smoothly across and then his cursor snapped onto someone's head and then he went
smoothly across again and then came around the corner and shot at where the guy was.
But by the time he had moved around the corner, that guy had happened to move.
So he shot exactly where the dude's head was previously, but he hadn't moved.
And I'm like, dude, what the hell?
Like he pre-fired around the corner and missed.
Right.
Um, very possibly.
Um, all right, so let's go ahead and move on to our next topic.
I just, I got, okay, I guess, sorry, one last word, um, valve dream hack administrators,
you have to do the right thing.
And the problem, the problem with something like this is that it's not just one player
deciding to go ahead and exploit something.
This was a team decision.
Uh, they're mad, they're, they're coach after the match was asked about it.
The interviewer basically to paraphrase, just kind of went, I don't really know what to
say.
Like, how long have you guys known about this?
And he goes, Oh, a couple of months.
Um, so there's, there's even more, there's more controversy.
The person who discovered this, this exploit was actually posted a video on YouTube about
it and claims that fanatic told him to take the video down.
And then they've allegedly just kind of had this in their back pocket and chose to pull
it out at a quarter of a million dollar tournament.
On a map that valve had asked people, the professional community to help them fix and
help them tune up.
And there's been patches and updates to that map.
And if they knew this glitch was there, they probably would have fixed it.
So this isn't a matter of like one player spitting on a referee.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And an unsportsman.
This is an unsportsman like culture within this organization.
And when you call it professional e-sports professional doesn't just mean that you get
paid to do it.
There's like, there's a connotation that comes with the word professional.
That means, I mean, when I say I'm a professional YouTuber, that means I make money by being
a YouTuber.
But if I were to say that I want to behave like a professional, then there's a whole
lot more that comes along with that.
The word means so much more than just, I do this as a profession and you know, seeing,
seeing them, you know, congratulating each other on the successful execution of this
tactic means that this is just a fundamental problem with this organization.
There's, there's obviously some diamonds in the rough.
People like Pasha.
Yeah, Pasha is awesome.
There's other guys in the community that are awesome, but there's just so much junk to
sift through to get to that.
And obviously like there might be a disproportionate amount of good people in the organization,
but how much the guys that are screwing around get attention makes them much a much larger
group.
Yeah.
So here's a good look at it.
You guys, I'll go ahead and zoom in.
So just to be clear, this is what pixel walking is.
So this is obviously not a part of the map that is intended to be stood on.
This guy right here has to jump on someone else to get here and then he has to jump on
top of him so he can basically see the entire, the entire, I think that it's what four ways
they can go and he can see three of them.
Yeah.
I think that's, I think that's what it was made three main pathways on the map.
Yeah.
Kind of ridiculous.
Yeah.
Pretty, pretty embarrassed.
I'm like how pissed and or disappointed would you be if you were LDLC wrecking that whole
match going 12 to three at halftime, like really, really good set up for the next, next
team switch and then just getting killed from nowhere for the entire rest of the match just
to come out of it and figure out that they were essentially glitching.
Ridiculous.
All right.
So I guess that's all to, uh, that's all to really say about it for now.
Yeah.
Are you still trying to find that gif list?
Yeah.
I would really like to find it.
That's incredibly frustrating that I can't find it, but, uh, but it's okay.
All right.
All right.
So let's move on to the next thing.
A Nintendo Patents Game Boy emulation.
So this was posted by Ah Ming on the forum and the original article here is from Pocket
Gamer.
So let's go ahead and fire that up.
There you go.
Pocket Gamer.
Oh, someone posted the gift list right before I did that.
Oh, oh, oh, terrible.
Terrible.
Um, Oh, Oh, I hope.
Hold on.
Maybe we got it.
Oh, this isn't the one that I was looking at.
Unfortunately.
That's not as extensive.
Yeah.
No, there was one I had that was like...
That was the wrong one.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not the right one, unfortunately.
Okay.
So let's move on to, uh, so what does, what does this...
Apparently Nick has sent it to you.
Apparently Nick.
Oh, Oh, he has.
Okay.
Uh, this better be the right one, Nick.
No, that's the, that's the same one.
I'm pretty sure there's one that's longer than that, but okay.
Anyways.
All right.
Yeah.
No, no, it's okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
Okay.
So the original article here is from pocket gamer.
I'll go ahead and share this on the screen.
So these are some illustrations from Nintendo's patent for an emulator that runs on mobile
phones.
So there's an illustration of someone playing a game boy.
Um, okay.
There were some more illustrations.
You can read a lot more details.
It's like the least helpful image patent thing I've ever seen.
Yeah.
There we go.
So they've got some more details about it.
So the idea is maybe we could see it integrated into airline seats.
Uh, we could see it running on computers potentially on, I guess that's supposed to be a tablet.
It's like, yes, this is a 1990s pocket PC that, uh, like Palm, Palm, like black and
white display thing that for some reason someone's playing games on.
So basically there's an example of an emulator architecture, virtual core keypad emulation,
sound, blah, blah, blah, et cetera.
I mean, those of you who are familiar with emulation will probably already have some
idea how it works, but the way that it's never worked in the past is with official sanctions
from the original developers of the games.
Now in some cases they're just not really around anymore in such a state that they would
be able to, that they would be able to defend anything.
So you go back, you know, far enough and you have things like Neo Geo or like MAME emulators.
Yeah.
Um, but Nintendo on the other hand has the resources and has the existing presence to
take the emulation communities, um, well really they're fun away from them, I guess if you,
it depends on how they do this.
So if they just kind of go, okay, we're going to patent emulation so that anyone creating
an emulator for a Nintendo system is infringing our patent and we can legally go after them
and then they're just going to sit on all those IPs and all those old games, then that's
just, that's a super doofus-y thing to do and they need to go just get their heads out
of their butts.
If the intention is to patent it and then create an emulation console and then sell
the titles at a reasonable price, then I have no problem with them monetizing their old
IP in such a way.
And that was bound to happen.
Eventually we've seen a little bit with things like the virtual console on the Wii and on
the Wii U.
Whereas if we, if we saw them create more like those virtual console games, like just
the whole way they were doing that, where they were porting them was just stupid when
they could have just run an emulator in the first place and then they don't have to port
anything.
Um, so, so yeah, it depends on their approach.
If they're going to wait and like remaster everything or whatever else, then that's super
crappy because there's something to be said for those retro experiences and you, you can't
buy those retro games anymore unless you're e-banging it, in which case the original creator
of the content isn't getting anything for it anyway.
And there's that whole, there's that whole piracy argument, which frankly I've talked
about this before, but I think is silly where it's not stealing if you don't actually remove
the object from the other person in order to have it for yourself.
Um, and if you weren't going to buy it anyway, then it doesn't represent a lost revenue opportunity
for the person that you are, whose content you are enjoying.
Um, that's dumb, but what isn't quite as dumb is if that content creator is no longer providing
that content in any usable way to you.
Well then what are you supposed to do?
If it's not possible to purchase anymore, then like we're not talking about, you know,
a limited edition Sennheiser Orpheus headphone where they make 2000 of them and then they,
they're not available for purchase anymore.
We're talking about something that is lines of code and they're just opting not to sell
it anymore.
And so they're the ones that are ultimately pre-determining that there is no revenue opportunity
to be had and they're forcing piracy.
It's, it's, it's much the same way where I think there's a gray area, even with things
like movies.
Yes.
Okay.
You can buy them used, but there's no, you're not even just that you can buy them used for
one, but you're not taking away their revenue opportunity probably in the Nintendo store.
Some stuff.
A lot of stuff.
Not that much.
I mean, do you know how many games there are for Super Nintendo?
Yeah, but do you know how many games there are that no one is interested in playing at
all on Super Nintendo?
Okay.
Yes.
I'm just saying that in some cases it can be justified if there's no way to legally
it's in much the same way that in some countries there are a lot of movies that you just can't
obtain because there's no licensing deals in place and it's like, well, come on.
But people are just supposed to move so they can, you know, watch a song of ice and fire.
I can't remember what the stupid TV show is called.
Game of Thrones.
Remember what the book's called.
That's funny.
Wait, isn't it fire and ice?
Ice and fire.
I said it wrong once.
I said fire and ice in like an audible.com integration or something and I got torn apart.
I didn't mess up mine.
Yeah.
Well.
Anyway.
Um, so I guess that's pretty much, oh yeah, so the big news here is there are popular
ROM sites that are already pulling all of their ROMs because ROMs have been a very legal
gray area up till now.
Is it stealing if no one is selling it?
I don't know.
Who knows?
Also I don't think anyone was really pursuing it because they're not selling it anymore.
So that's right.
Interesting.
Okay.
Kim.com is now free.
The original article here is from Kit Guru and the poster on the Linus Tech Tips forum
was Fulgrim.
And I don't know, I don't know how closely you've been paying attention to the whole
Kim.com thing.
I can't find any of the topics, but thank God for control F. Um, a little bit, not enough
probably.
Um, I know he's just frustrated and I've heard lately that he might've gone bankrupt.
Um, well, okay.
The bankruptcy, I think he declared himself bankrupt.
His ex wife now has control of the family trust and if there's a trust, I suspect that
means the money is not exactly all gone.
Um, so then he had to get a new lawyer, something, something, something, something, something.
Anyway, the point is, um, Kim.com was one of the founders of mega upload, which was
taken down crap.
I think it was back in 2012 Wikipedia has a pretty good history of the whole thing,
but the, the, the case against him and they were trying to get him extradited from New
Zealand to the States for some reason, and the whole thing's been just kind of a mess,
a complete sham.
Um, but the, the argument against him was that he was responsible or, and the site's
owners were responsible for the, uh, copyright infringing content that was uploaded to the
site and then downloaded.
And the arguments went something along the lines of, cause I mean, obviously mega uploads
defense was, well, hold on a second.
We didn't put it there and we comply with DMCA takedown notices, but then the counter
argument to that was, well, you guys actually have advanced filtration in place for things
like child pornography where it gets taken down automatically.
Every link to it gets taken down and the file gets removed.
Like you guys are actually taking this seriously.
Whereas copyrighted files, um, the way that the DMCA takedowns worked is all they had
to remove was that link to it.
And then the way that uploads to mega upload worked was that if you uploaded a duplicated
file, then it would just say, yo, that file's already there.
So do you want to just link to that one?
And then a file could have many, many, many links to it.
So it created, it created basically a bottleneck in the system where it was almost, it was
very difficult to get things removed from it.
Um, and there are some arguments to be made, like the way that they would incentivize users
to post popular things because, uh, the more clicks it gets, I think they actually even
had an incentive program where they would pay people to upload things that were going
to get a lot of clicks.
I didn't use mega upload much, so I'm not really sure.
Well, their revenue model was based on advertising.
So they needed traffic, traffic, traffic, traffic, traffic.
And then obviously the response to that is, well, we'll hold on a second just cause we're
incentivizing people to, um, yeah, thank you.
Just cause we're incentivizing people to visit our website doesn't mean that we're encouraging
copyright infringement.
So back and forth, back and forth, back and forth at the end of the day, I mean, come
on.
You can't put me in jail because someone uploads, you know, uh, an MP3 of Kanye West or whatever
the kids listen to these days to Linus tech tips.com.
If we do our best to remove it once we receive a DMCA takedown and or not even do our best
cause our best is very subjective.
But if we remove the infringing content once we received DMCA takedown notice, so, um,
so he walked today, uh, there was a, there was like, there was a hearing and uh, his
comment on it.
It's actually pretty funny.
I posted on his Twitter that the hearing was just like the entire mega upload case, nonsensical
or nonsense.
Excuse me.
And, um, I guess that's all I really have to say about that.
Yeah.
Kind of ridiculous.
I'm happy he's free.
I mean, I don't necessarily think that enabling content piracy is the most noble of, no, but
how that whole situation with dealt with was not correct.
You messed up like completely not fair and completely messed up.
Uh, the original article here is from tech spot.
This was posted on the forum by misanthrope and a Google fiber rolled out in Austin, Texas.
So congratulations to our buddies down in Austin, Texas.
You guys are super cool.
Definitely cooler than us because Google fiber cause you have Google fiber.
The thing that I think is interesting is I know we're not going to touch on this a ton,
but the internet access is a human right.
93% of people that use the internet think so.
83 83 whatever.
Talk about like a very specific target audience, um, polling users of a system and asking them
if they think other people should use that system as well and should have the right to
use it, especially internet people.
Cause you ask internet people about whether people should have the right to do anything
and they're bound to say yes.
And then you ask them if they should have the right to use the internet.
And I like, I can't even imagine who the 17% of people who said no were possibly trolls.
Like I like, I agree with it, but like if you're going to do a poll like this, at least
do one that matters and has it like number at the end.
That's like, Oh, that's interesting.
Instead of like, Oh, that's people saying they like something cause they already definitely
like it.
Anyways.
Um, I mean if it's one of those things where the idea was just to get people like us to
talk about it and spread awareness of the internet being important for freedom of speech
and you know, freedom of information access and all that kind of stuff, then good job.
Yeah.
But if it was to like move any political stuff, then I don't think it really mattered.
But fiber man.
Oh, sorry.
I'm jumping back.
What I found interesting is that Google is kind of solving this problem themselves.
Uh, if you read part of this Google fiber thing, you can get five megabits per second
down and one megabit per second up with no monthly charge, just a $300 installation fee,
which can be spread over 12 months and then there's no charge.
That is awesome.
Google's kind of just giving people actually pretty damn good in a five megabit fiber line
is better than it sounds because a lot of the time what makes your internet connection
slow is not actually the sheer bandwidth.
It's it's the latency.
So that's what makes something like a webpage load slowly.
Like sure on five megabit, maybe you might not be watching 4k youtube videos or twitch
streams, but you will have quick access to the web, which is the intention.
And then for 70 bucks a month you get one gig up, one gig down and one terabyte of storage
across Google drive, Gmail and Google plus photos.
And if you pay $130 a month, you get 150 TV channels and you can record eight of them
at once, which is actually pretty intense.
So um, all right, so let's, let's move on to our next topic here.
Um, as rock launches an X 99 board with 10 gigabit per second ethernet.
So I'm going to go ahead.
This original article here is from the non tech.com and I've been saying for a while
that I would like to see motherboards with 10 gig ethernet built into them.
However, I'm not necessarily sure if this one is the answer.
So this is a workstation type grade board.
It's estimated it's going to be out in December.
So it's not actually, uh, it's not actually available yet, but it's estimated that it
will be out sometime in December at the price of around 800 to $900.
So I believe it's in the article here.
So it's actually got two 10 gigabit RJ 45 ports at the back, um, and they are running
off.
I believe it's an Intel chip set.
It's an Intel X five 20 T two.
And then down here, what do we've got for, Oh yeah, two of them are one gigabit and then
two of them are 10 gigabit.
The cooling solution actually extends down over the 10 gigabit ethernet port.
So presumably that's dealing with the extra heat being kicked off by the chip set, uh,
that controls that.
And then there's also an active cooler on the, uh, on the, uh, the PCH down here that
takes care of all your state of connectivity, USB and all that kind of stuff.
So this is one beast of a board, but looking at the article, so there's a couple of PLX
chips under that heat sink with the cooler as well.
Um, so they can actually do 16 X, 16 X, 16 X, 16 X with four PCI express cards.
But here we go.
Oh shoot.
I can't find it anyway.
I can't find the discussion about it, but basically there were people saying that, Oh,
well, you know, that might actually be a pretty good value because at 800 to $900 it includes,
you know, a $400 10 gigabit ethernet card, but you can actually get 10 gigabit ethernet
cards for like three 50 I believe.
And of course this is going to be the one time that new egg search completely lets me
down networking, wired networking.
So I'll, I'll look this up sort of offline and then I'll go find something here.
Uh, wired routers.
You want to cover the next, uh, I was completely off page.
Give me one second.
I will try to find it.
I can use that.
We'll see.
We'll race.
We'll see who can find things first.
All right.
Supreme court is talking about tackling online threats for the first time.
And this is actually kind of scary for a few reasons.
It's coming up because Anthony aloneness, I might be saying that right, is convicted
after writing graphic gory fantasies about viciously murdering his wife and other women
and posting them to Facebook.
Ew.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I've already read them, but saying that out loud, it's just really gross.
You're a gross dude.
Um, Oh, by the way, I found it.
So it's 333 bucks.
So at 800 to $900, but that's for a single port one, just to be clear.
So at 800 to $900 you can buy yourself a pretty nice X 99 board and a 10 gigabit NIC if you
really want one and not spend that much.
And depending on how you feel about as rock, you'll have a lot more options in terms of
the motherboard.
Okay.
So Supreme court.
Yes.
I already said the gross part so we can continue on from there.
I'm just hoping you all remember it.
Um, the Supreme court is judging whether a, uh, sorry.
Where is it?
Uh, essentially I can't remember exactly where it's here in terms of wording and I know exact
wording is very important for legal stuff, but a lot of it is based around, uh, literally
would it be a teenager playing from league of legends or a grandfather posting on his
fly fishing forum?
So what they're trying to describe with that is, is the threat real?
If anyone here in the audience has played online video games, kind of expecting everybody.
You've probably heard at some point in time, a really bad comment from someone.
Yeah.
Like there's that classic one.
I'm an ex Marine with X number of confirmed kills.
I'm going to come in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The copy pasta.
Like there's, I'm going to whatever your mom, there's like, there's all the crap that gets
thrown around online.
And like every time anyone says that, I'm just like, Oh, whatever.
You can't think of something better.
Like it's not, Oh no, I'm fearful for my life or my mom because those are really common
insults on the internet.
But like, I like, that's the problem with this is we have to be really careful with
that line because like that negates almost anything said on so many platforms.
But then that's going to open the door to so many people slamming the legal system with
like, Oh, look at this screenshot I got in legal legends of this guy saying he's going
to come attack my mom.
Like, Oh my God.
And then the flip side of that is, I mean, the flip side of that is that we might need
some, do we need legislation in place to keep people from acting like complete doofus wads
on the internet.
Doofus wads.
See, if this comes into, if this comes into play, everyone's gonna be calling each other
freaking doofus wads and maybe the world would be a better place if we called each other
doofus wads instead of talking about what we're going to do to each other's mothers.
I like your mother.
So my mom's pretty nice.
I don't know if she's seen the, oh, probably, um, yeah, I don't, it's, it's, it's a very
fine line that they have to walk.
So the accused claims his posts were meant as rap lyrics, not as genuine threats, which,
and then if all of a sudden we're going to go, okay, well no, it's not okay to say those
things in rap lyrics.
Then we get into freedom of expression and art and all that kind of stuff.
And so I, I suspect this will not go through.
I suspect he will walk away completely Scott free from all of this and the internet won't
change.
So he's kind of, maybe I haven't read his posts, but just the, that description and
maybe I should, if I want to comment, but I really don't want to, um, but just that
description is disgusting.
And from that description, maybe he's a disgusting person.
I haven't read them again and that could be glorifying, whatever it could be a, uh, what
is that called when the title, oh, uh, sensational title, it could be a sensationalist thing.
It might not be that intense, probably is, but I don't know.
Um, but while that is disgusting, there's going to be a lot of people on the internet
that might even just be joking to a friend.
It could be within friends.
Something has said, someone else sees it and then goes like, oh, this is bad.
Sometimes people don't put slash sarcasm like almost ever, ever.
Yeah.
I know it's fairly common on Twitch to do the Kappa thing.
What if you don't know what Kappa means?
And then there might be a comment elsewhere.
There might be a case by case.
I mean, so, so a lot of the argument here is around arguing for an objective standard,
meaning that a threat would count as a threat if a reasonable person would think the statement
is a threat and reasonable person has a legal definition.
Um, and then, so there's also subjective intent.
So whether he intended to scare his wife with the threat might be more important here.
Not necessarily whether he intended to follow through on it.
And a lot of spousal abuse is, spousal abuse is a great example because threats, um, are,
are used to, to great effect because the way that it, the way that it works, and this is
actually a super creepy conversation that I had with my mom once about someone that
she knew who was the subject of, of, uh, of, uh, of a beaten, beaten wife sort of situation.
And what she said was he only hit me once, but after that, this is enough.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And so if the idea is that, uh, is, is that this is a verbal threat with maybe some weight
behind it in, in the past, maybe there's some history there, then is it really any different?
Um, yeah.
So I'll be interested to see how that goes.
Let's move on to the very sensationalist headline here.
This is from kit guru.net original.
Oh, I don't think we said the OP for the last one.
That was Ryo kun.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Kit guru.net posts Activision using YouTube copyright system to hide glitches in call
of duty.
Um, so let's go ahead and post that up there.
I'll also share this on the form here.
Now this is a little bit sort of jumping the gun and Activision has fired back and said,
well, whoa, whoa, hold on a second.
Uh, we're, we're, we didn't intend for it to, uh, for it to hide, you know, game bugs.
You know, we want those reported and we will fix that stuff.
But what we intended, um, so it says a glitch slash cheat videos.
That's the important word here in the headline from kit guru.
What we wanted was for people to stop posting cheats.
We're trying to get cheating reduced in the game and having people not post it all over
the internet would be pretty freaking helpful if you guys would all just please help us
out with this a little bit.
We're trying to make it a fun gaming experience, not full of CS go professional players who
are counter-strike.
Yeah.
Um, CS go and like while that's honorable and everything and actually probably not a
bad idea.
They're going about it the wrong way cause this can permanently hurt channels.
Yup.
And I mean it's, it's for them to hear about it from, so, so this was an email from machinima
to some of their partners.
Yo dogs, maybe, you know, ease up on this because you might get, you might actually
guess because, okay, the problem is that a youtube community guidelines strike has the
potential to perma ban your channel if you get a few of them and to get one for something
as innocuous as posting an end game glitch or an end game cheat, fine almost all the
time.
Um, so, so using, using the, using the take down policy on youtube is, is, and causing
potentially irreparable harm to channels is not the right way to deal with this.
Um, so I still, I still think Activision's digging here, even if their goal may have
been noble.
Um, they, but the thing is a lot of the time I think big companies make, because they can,
they can retract their, their claims and the strikes do go away.
Um, and strikes do expire eventually as well.
I've had a strike in the past.
Um, it was a complete misunderstanding, but I didn't end up filing my dispute early enough
for something, something.
I knew I wasn't going to get any more strikes, so I didn't deal with it and expire after
I think six months.
But, um, you know, a lot of the time they might just not even think about it.
Hey, this is someone's livelihood and these strikes can get youtube still isn't necessarily
understood properly by everyone.
I don't understand youtube properly.
I've I made a video where we threw stuff at you.
I thought it was comedy gold and it turns out people hate it.
So there you go.
Yeah.
Shows you what I know.
Yeah.
So really we've, we've done, I've done a few unpopular things lately.
I'm on a bit of an unpopular role, but the truth of the matter is I'm human.
Um, you know, I, I thought the whole thing with the, uh, the teasing future videos and
the innuendo, I thought that my response to it was funny.
Apparently a lot of people didn't think it was funny.
What was your response to that?
You didn't see that?
I don't think so.
Oh yeah.
In our test bench video I basically said something along the lines of a, well, we've been receiving
a lot of complaints about teasing future videos at the beginning of our videos and the amount
of innuendo in our videos.
So I'd like to, I, so I wanted to, you know, formally address this, but instead here's
a teaser of an upcoming video.
And then I compared open test benches and closed cases to boxers versus briefs, which
is not actually sexual.
No, no.
And that's an important distinction here because I had people giving me a hard time.
I thought you were going somewhere else with open test benches.
Boxers and briefs.
I didn't, I didn't think cause there's a lot you could do with open test bench.
I mean it is arguably potty humor, but is it sort of it's underwear.
Come on.
Underwear is lowbrow, but it's not like, but boxers and briefs is also kind of just
one of those classics.
You know what I mean?
Um, so I had intended for the way, uh, for the way it was going to work in the intro,
I had intended for it to also have kind of a, a humorous acknowledgement that what I was
doing was stupid and not funny, where I wanted a hook to appear from the side of the screen
and then reach for me to pull me off the stage.
But we couldn't find anything.
We could have used this as a C stand or boom pole would have worked perfectly.
We were in a hurry and we couldn't find anything to kind of do that with and then, yeah, apparently
it didn't work.
So yeah, apparently it wasn't funny anyway.
So there you go guys.
Some people thought so.
I thought so still, some people thought my thing with you guys throwing at me was the
main complaint I got was that they couldn't understand, but then like I rewatched it and
I could hear everything.
So I didn't really get that part.
I understand that it was kind of distracting, but uh, yeah, I guess, Oh, well we tried.
We tried.
Sometimes we fail.
Yeah, that's okay.
That's fine.
We hope you guys forgive us.
Speaking of forgiving us, uh, Panasonic's Lumix C M one.
I am willing to forgive anything Panasonic might've ever done in the past.
Okay.
I was wondering where you're going with that.
I wasn't going anywhere with that.
Tom's hardware.co.uk posted this one and this looks freaking awesome.
Now I originally said this back when Samsung did the galaxy camera.
Why isn't it a phone?
Why isn't it a phone?
Well, Panasonic finally did this right.
So the here, I'm just going to go ahead and pull, pull this up.
The Lumix C M one will have a one inch sensor in what is otherwise a phone, a Leica lens,
and it's planned to go on sale for somewhere in the neighborhood of a very, very entry
level kind of, I don't know, I don't even know what to go like a high end point and
shoot cause it's, it's kind of in the, I think it's in the 900 pound range.
So it's not cheap.
Okay.
I was going to say a high end phone, but I thought that was dollars, not pounds.
No, it's a bit more expensive than a high end phone, but it's a, okay, so here we go.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The Lumix C M one pixels are four times bigger compared to the Lumia 10 20s and, but it has,
so it has half as many pixels, but they're four times bigger, which means they can capture
more light.
So in comparison, the HTC ones ultra pixels were only 40 to 80% larger than other high
end smartphones at the time.
So basically what this is going to mean is we're finally going to have something that
just sheer to the way that physics works.
Okay.
Bigger light capturing area, much larger, much better, much bigger lens element in front
of it.
Better pictures.
This should be, assuming they don't completely screw it up, the best smartphone camera available
period.
And it's not going to cost that much more than an iPhone six or six plus.
I wanted this for a little while cause there's a lot of people that want their phones to
be able to last a while, be able to call and text people and take good pictures.
That's all they really want.
And there you go.
So 20 megapixel stills in both JPEG and raw formats as well as 4k video recording, although
only at 15 FPS, which is likely a limitation of the Snapdragon eight Oh one SOC.
So that's from the Tom's hardware article.
Um, let me just see, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So they've decided to position it more like a camera than a smartphone from the like the
overall look of the device to the controls.
And they're also calling it a compact camera with smartphone technology.
But I hope people glom onto this cause I think it is really cool.
I'm really tired of phones being sold based on their cameras, which frankly, none of them
are that great.
We might as well have a camera that's sold based on the incredible additional functionality
it has.
Thanks to not only Android cause we've seen Android cameras before, but also the fact
that you can actually just make phone calls from it and literally only have one device
that you need to carry around with you for people who are shutterbugs.
Really cool.
Really cool.
I like that a lot.
Yeah.
It's got manual control of aperture, ISO, shutter speeds, and white balance expected
to be available on December 1st.
Sorry.
It was an estimated 900 euros, not pounds because dealing with those features on a touch
screen is sometimes really not cool.
Yeah.
It's actually nice that they're making that hardware stuff.
No, I think it's fantastic.
Uh, what else we got here?
We actually don't have a ton of topics left.
We've been blowing through stuff.
Sup?
Oh yeah.
Right.
Sponsors.
I've been trying to point at that for like half an hour.
It's okay though.
Yay.
Sponsors.
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I do want to make progress on it though, and I still plan on it.
I also want to get a not Moto X so that I can take better photos to put on it, right.
Which is like, you should get that new Panasonic one.
It actually looks really good.
No, I know.
I am interested in it.
I was interested in one previously, but then it wasn't coming to North America at all.
And it wasn't this one.
It was a different like right.
Camera with a phone on it kind of idea because I think that's really cool because it's like
I used to be a pretty crazy power user on my phone, but that was when I was commuting
a lot on public transit to school and to work and stuff, so I would use it for games and
work.
Like I would write essays on my phone or I would do whatever on my phone.
So then I was, ah, so I was on my phone a lot and now I'm not on my phone as much.
So now I use it for like texting, hangouts, Instagram, calling your social media junkie
now, Instagram, Twitter, like all this stuff, which is not difficult for your phone to do.
And then I try to take pictures on it and I'm like, wow.
You should get an iPhone.
It's really bad at doing this.
All the photos look horrible.
I tried to take a picture of that chunk that the fan took out of my finger.
Right?
Why would you take a picture of that?
So I was like, look, look what the fan did.
I don't know.
Whatever.
Um, and like the Moto X would not focus on it cause I had to get my camera, my phone
too close to it, but too close was like this far away.
I'm like, just do it.
Oh, I'm so tired of camera.
The way that camera apps still give you a hard time about locking focus really, really,
really bothers me.
It's like, no, just touch.
It's easy to use.
Touch anywhere on the screen to take a picture.
That is not easy to use if I actually want a particular thing to be in focus.
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Wow.
No, I thought it was, I thought you get, I thought it was, I thought you get, sad Linus.
Why are you mocking me?
My favorite one.
Oh man.
So many people were focused on not liking the video that they didn't notice the awesome
things that happened in it.
But when like my, my hand got cut or whatever, guys, no.
That's fantastic.
I'm sorry.
I guess we can continue with the show.
The amount of face palms in chat right now is glorious.
I know.
I know.
And you know, it's always five forkable.
They keep changing things.
They keep changing their offers.
Sometimes they're putting cash in the package.
Sometimes they're doing free items.
Sometimes they're doing a giveaway.
I don't know what these guys are doing.
The point is you don't have to leave your house and you can still look like you leave
your house and shop and are like, you know, look good.
Okay.
Sony compensating PS Vita owners after false advertising.
So in addition to overstating the device's ability to link up to the PlayStation three
staff at the firm's ad agency are also accused of using their personal Twitter accounts to
mislead the public.
So to qualify for the payout, users must live in the US and have bought a Vita before the
1st of June, 2012.
Those affected should be able to choose either $25 cash or credit refund, or a $50 voucher,
which can be spent on a selection of video games or other services.
I guess that's pretty much all there is to it.
That's pretty much it.
So if you happen to buy one, go get your money.
Yep.
So this was posted by how to gaming on the forum and the original article is from the
BBC.
Can you do this topic in the least amount of words possible because I think it'll be
hilarious.
Okay.
Okay.
I will, I will take that challenge.
I'll just screen share the, um, the, the post here.
Don't worry.
Everything is fine.
Uh, so this was originally posted on the forum by S O F zero zero six.
Uh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, um, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Okay.
I have an idea.
There we go.
All good.
Yes.
Sure.
All right.
S O F zero zero six and there's a video and the video is basically IGN news saying a thing
for like 30 seconds because that's what they do.
And why is the X-Box one so big?
Because I think we all are pretty much on the same page about how the X-Box one is significantly
larger than the PlayStation four contains basically the same hardware, but a less powerful
version of it contains no internal power supply thanks to its massive external brick.
Whereas the PlayStation four has an internal brick and the PlayStation four doesn't have
any overheating issues.
Well, Microsoft's response is in as few words as possible, R R O D, which is no words, only
letters.
What even is that?
R R O D?
Yeah.
Come on.
You had several of them.
Yeah.
Right.
Ring of death.
Yes.
So basically they said, look, it's for cooling.
And I think that they have a great point here.
There is no purpose in personally, I don't care about external power bricks.
I don't think they're a big deal.
If you have a game console, you'll probably also have a TV.
If you care that much tape it to the back of your TV or something who cares about a
power brick and then having better cooling for the unit without adding additional cost
or, you know, like intricate heat pipe systems or, or whatever else is a totally legitimate
reason to have something be a little bit bigger, as long as it's not too big.
And when you look at the Xbox one console, well, it's meant to fit in, you know, like
a, like a media center cabinet.
And as long as it still fits in there, it's going to be fine.
And that's the problem is, you know, people going, Oh, well, you know, it runs like, you
know, super awesome.
Cool.
Well, you probably are running it responsibly outside the cabinet, you know, not next to
a, you know, heater vent.
Whereas we're talking consoles, anyone can buy a console and they could put it inside
a cabinet with a heater vent under it and run games with the door closed because it
looks nice.
That's it could be possible.
One thing that I have to bring up about the brick thing, people wall mount their TVs,
strapping it to the back of the TV is not as much of an option.
If someone is playing in a dorm room and playing off a monitor, it still could potentially
be an issue because you're not going to strap it to the back of your monitor.
Okay, well, where's their monitor sitting?
Is it on the wall?
No.
Okay.
Then they can put it under the desk.
There might be very limited room under the desk.
Well then they can tape it to the side of the desk.
You haven't lived in the dorm, have you?
No.
That much space literally matters.
Speaking of that much space mattering, guys, let me, let me know in the, let me know on
Twitter if you want me to do a, a video on my, uh, my plan to, well, okay.
You kind of know this already, I guess, but I have too many pairs of headphones.
Okay.
Yes.
This is a new thing.
Not that thing yet.
I haven't heard from ruckus yet about the wireless access points for the other thing.
I was thinking something else.
Oh, okay.
This size thing with the stuff.
Wow.
I'm trying to be super vague.
Yeah.
You are being vague.
Why don't you just type it while I talk about the new plan.
Uh, so I've got about 20 pairs of headphones and people kind of go, well, why do you need
so many pairs of headphones?
And the reason is that anytime I'm going to evaluate a pair of headphones, the, your,
your memory for what something sounds like exactly is on the order of seconds as opposed
to being able to listen to headphones six months ago and like remember and be able to
compare it to something new.
So I actually have to maintain a fairly substantial collection of headphones in order to do side
by side comparison and I'm not doing blind AB testing yet, but at some point I'd like
to switch to something like that in the future.
Um, but for now I'm at least trying to continue to improve the process.
So that means having things for side by side comparison.
That means having a sound level meter so that I can make sure that they are all dialed into
the same volume before I'm testing because things that are louder subjectively sound
better to us.
That's fact that's, that's like period.
If you're not using a sound level meter in order to ensure that the headphones are at
the same volume level when you're listening to them, then who knows?
I mean it's, it's just a freaking guess.
Um, so I was wondering if you guys want to see me do like a blog video or something on
like a management, a wall management system for headphones or something like that.
So let me know.
Let me know on Twitter if you're interested in that.
Um, Oh yeah, no, actually, Oh, Oh, okay.
Totally unrelated to that, but um, uh, SLI, tiny PC, something like that.
Okay.
Go ahead and do another topic in the meantime.
Okay.
Where is that?
Another topic.
Give me a second.
Oh, okay.
So Smash bros was, we use fastest selling title in the U S that's not surprising at
all.
I think everyone saw that coming, but it is official.
And one of the biggest complaints I've seen about this launch at all is the fact that
it's difficult to go out and buy the controller adapters so you can play game crew game cube
games on it because they're selling out so quickly, which in comparison to a lot of launches
lately is not that bad of a complaint.
Um, it's kind of awesome.
I think it was the watchdogs release on Wii U, uh, was so underwhelming that it was outsold
by some like super old game, but I don't remember what it was.
The stats for that isn't in here cause like no one cared.
And I know people at Nintendo are trying to push for like big new other like third party
triple A titles on Nintendo, but no one cares.
Just keep making games like Smash.
That's all we really want anyways.
Anyways.
Okay.
This is, this is cool.
This is related to what he was talking about, but only sort of a, this is an Indiegogo project
that didn't get funded.
I tend not to like to talk too much about crowdfunding projects on the show just because
so much of the stuff that I've crowdfunded, Oh, why is that not working?
This was up earlier today.
All right.
Um, well I tend not to like to talk about it too much cause so much of the stuff that
I've, um, that I've crowdfunded and so many of the stories that I've seen are just sort
of a disaster.
I don't like, I don't like to give these guys too much attention if they haven't done anything
in particular to deserve it.
But this one is pretty cool and if I could, if I can get the page to load, I'll bring
it up.
But basically it's like an M-A-T-X super tiny case that is capable of having two graphics
cards installed in it, which I think is, uh, is pretty darn cool.
And if any, any page with any kind of reference to it would load, maybe this Tom's hardware
one, then I would be able to show it to you guys and you would be able to appreciate its
greatness.
Can you move on to the next topic in the meantime while I struggle to, again, I don't have one,
but I will try to find one.
Welcome to the show guys.
Hope you're enjoying it as much as we are.
I'm going to go off off sheet and talk about what happened with Inquisition a little bit
more, uh, stuff that didn't really end up in the video.
So we've had problems with the past where there'll be DRM on games that doesn't allow
you to activate it too many times and it would automatically activate in the background if
you change hardware on your computer.
So if I'm testing graphics cards, I'm changing a lot of freaking cards, especially if it's
not working at the beginning.
So which rarely is.
Yeah.
Um, so anyways, that happened with Dragon Age Inquisition.
It locked me out.
After we had figured out like what exactly we wanted to do with the testing and how exactly
we're going to do it, which was the unfortunate in game benchmark.
So I called them up.
I think unfortunately it is a generous word to use to describe that in game benchmark.
It is.
Um, so I guess I didn't call them up.
You have to go on their website and sign up for them to call you, which is not that bad,
I guess.
Great.
But I would rather that I could call them and then get on the list for them to call
me back.
Um, because doing the site thing was just kind of annoying anyways.
They called me back in like an hour or something and then the very nice lady on the phone,
but very, very nice lady, surprisingly nice lady on the phone, um, had to send me off
to someone else and that was fine.
And then that dude that picked up was super nice.
Um, and that whole experience was great and that was awesome.
And I was absolutely really, really happy because usually we trash on EA and I was like,
I'm finally gonna have something nice to say about them.
And then my game went invalid again and I had to get them to call me again and they
never called me.
Oh yeah, you tried.
And you know what the people behind the phones are super nice, but the policy and the developers
are probably awesome.
Yeah.
So who's bad?
Someone's bad.
Executives.
I don't know.
I guess that's where the blame lands.
The frustrating thing about this is we actually have the same problem back with crisis too.
And um, that one had a lot more activations for one thing.
So it took us, we had been through several, you know, benchmarking sessions with it before
it ever actually ran out of activations.
And then when we called them that time, they said, well, we can't give you unlimited activations,
but we totally understand your situation, but we can give you 50 and we have easily
run it more than 50 times since then.
So I'm pretty sure that they gave it like a lot more than that.
So the fact that they didn't do it this time is very, very frustrating.
What he did was he reissued me the game, actually deleted the game off my account and then gave
it to me again.
Oh, that's terrible.
That, that means we can never use inquisition as a benchmarking title then because we'll
just keep running out of them and we'll keep having to be reissued games.
That's ridiculous.
And then every some time we have to be reissued a game, we would have to call them back and
it's been super crazy frustrating.
All right, so I found, I found this thing.
So Luke was talking about that case that I want built that is about the size of a console
and kind of how I want the internals laid out.
And that's fine.
Silverstone has already given me hack about a, not coming to them with my ideas because
they, and probably very actually rightly so see themselves as the leaders and properly
cooled small form factor cases in unique form factor cases especially.
Um, and, and be, they were like, well, we have some concerns with your idea because
of this, this, this, this, this, and this.
So I'm actually planning to discuss it with them at CES and we'll, we'll see if maybe
something comes of it.
I have no idea, but this is pretty cool.
So this is a crowdfunded project that never made it, um, that intended to put an M ATX
board with PCI express extenders and the graphics cards literally right up against a mesh side
panel keeping any of the, of the air.
As long as you have a blower style graphics card, I'm keeping any of the heat from the
graphics card from contaminating any of the other components.
And this was a critical part of the design for my case was we were going to be able to
keep it small by using maybe a doctor, something to have the graphics card directly intake
fresh air from outside filters of course, and then blow it out the case.
And so I thought this one was pretty cool.
I think it's a shame it didn't get funded.
Um, but then again, maybe it isn't because maybe they had no real business model anyway.
Like so many crowds.
I think a lot of people didn't know about it though.
Like everyone in the comments is like, Oh wow, that's super cool.
Wow.
That's beautiful.
Superb.
Awesome.
Yay.
Cool.
I had, whoa, hold on a second.
Their crowdfunding campaign was a disaster, but apparently NCIX tech tips has one coming.
Oh, well there you go.
So they're probably doing it anyways.
I'll be checking it out.
That's cool.
Cool.
Well, there you go.
There's a bit of a different spin on that than I expected.
I've got a wheels from a, Oh, okay.
The guy funded the first run out of his own pocket.
So like so many of these crowdfunding campaigns, the, uh, the crowdfunding is probably just,
you know, a way to help do something that they were already planning to try to do anyway.
Um, moving.
I had a few people comment that it was presumptuous of us to put, we're moving in our thumbnail
when we were crowdfunding for the move.
The crowdfunding is to help with the move.
We're moving to help us build sets.
We are moving.
We are going to move.
It might take longer.
We might not be able to afford nice sets or, you know, proper acoustic dampening, this
or that at first it might take us longer.
The crowdfunding is to help us.
We are moving.
We have to move.
We cannot stay here.
So, so that's basically all there is to that.
Speaking, uh, speaking of the move, um, I actually had kind of an interesting exchange with Logan
from tech syndicate today where, and you know what, the truth of the matter is I don't blame
him for this.
Um, because when I watched the part of the tech that it came from, it was obvious that
they were goofing around.
They were talking about my badminton gambling debts and Wendell building a robot bird that
was stuck in a badminton center that I uploaded a video of a bird that was stuck in like on
my Linus cat tips channel two or three years ago and they like zoom in on the thing and
they're like blah, blah, blah, Illuminati and like, uh, so somewhere in that whole obviously
goofing around trolling the heck out of everyone segment.
They said something like we made $2.4 million last year and robot chicken bird gambling
badminton.
People decided that was true.
People decided that that was true because I mean obviously we have a relationship with
the guys at tech syndicate.
We've collaborated with them on projects before, so obviously Linus shares all the financial
details of his company and, and you know, based on the size of Logan's channel, yeah,
based on the size of Logan's channel and how many, you know, hundreds and hundreds of thousands
of dollars that tech syndicate brings in.
Obviously Linus is making, making $2.4 million a year, right?
Um, so I basically went, dude, can you, can you issue a public sort of retraction of that?
Uh, because people are misinterpreting it and going, oh, you guys are crowdfunding when
you make $2.4 million a year.
And he's like, what, why would I have to do that?
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
I don't, I'm just like, it would mean a lot to me if you just said something.
So he's like, okay, and he sends out a tweet today.
And so I like, I retweeted it and I'm like, yeah, obviously a joke.
And then now, now, now he's emailing me, he's like, oh, I kind of feel bad.
And so public, public statement from me, dude, don't feel bad.
I laughed throughout the whole segment and I didn't even notice cause I, I assumed that
I hadn't even watched the part with the 2.4 million part because I didn't notice it.
I had actually watched that part.
I just didn't notice it because it was all silly and I was, I was looking at, you know,
Illuminati bird, conspiracy garbage, not, not, not that.
So yeah, dude, don't feel bad.
I thought it was funny.
It's just a couple of people on the internet that apparently take things way too seriously.
And the only reason that I was upset and sort of asked for him to clarify it was because
we are taking some flack over our crowdfunding campaign in general.
And people misinterpreting him and then repeating it as if it's fact loses the context of the
joke.
Yeah.
And so that is the problem.
Not anything about the joke that was an issue.
So anyway, Sony has an innovative watch, innovative is a word.
This was originally posted by Tech Dreamer and the original article here is the one that
I liked better was from a Gizbot, I think here of an innovative watch made entirely
out of e-paper.
So there's a, I'm going to, I need a faster way to like, I need to set up like a tab system
so that I can sort of alt tab tab and I can, oh, my Gizbot link is no good.
Anyway, the watch is made entirely out of e-paper.
They've got a, well, okay, the, okay.
The strap and the watch surface are made out of e-paper and the idea is that you can change
the look of your watch very easily so you could have like, it looks kind of like, um,
you know, leather or it looks kind of like metal finishing paper that can actually be
pretty interesting.
Yeah.
They're claiming a 60 day battery, although none of this has been verified off of a regular
watch battery.
So 60 day battery life off of a watch battery.
Um, and let me just fix the link.
Boom.
There it is.
I'm kind of jerking around.
We've had lately with freaking battery life.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know, but it looks pretty cool.
So there's a, there's a video in the, in the CNET link here.
I'm just going to fire this up and you guys can check it out.
So there you go.
Hopefully I don't get a, uh, hopefully I don't get a strike for this.
I've actually, I've actually gotten, um, copyright complaints from playing promotional videos
for things in my video in land shows from someone who was, it was, uh, I think it was
LG.
I want to say basically their, their PR firm wasn't talking to the right people and miscommunicated
something anyway.
So, so the point is, Oh, look how I grabbing this is no, I don't think it's that attention
grabbing.
I think this is a bit of a silly video, but I also think they're having some fun with
it.
Now.
You might've noticed that the company, whoa, hold on a second.
What was that?
That doesn't say Sony.
It says fashion entertainments, the S is for fashion entertainments.
And uh, this very tired looking man tells us about how it can, the, the look of it can
be customized.
It doesn't have a lot of the more traditional, um, or even expected smartwatch features.
Things like, you know, Oh, heart rate monitor this and, and that, but, uh, it looks cool.
I don't know if I care.
Oh, I don't.
I'm not going to buy one.
Yeah.
But like, I don't know if anyone should.
I like the idea.
I like the idea.
You get the combination of the annoyances that you've had or if you're playing badminton,
it's either going to be a strobe light or when you actually want to look at it, it's
not going to be able to turn on.
So you have the annoyances of it just not always being on.
Then you have it running off of a watch battery that only lasts for 60 days.
Look at these shoes.
They change colors with every step.
It's a watch though.
It's not your shoes.
No, no.
The technology they're looking at bow ties, uh, watches, shoes.
Here's the, uh, here's the bow tie one.
I like, I, I don't know if the watch is the right product.
Maybe the other stuff is a better product than the watch, but the concept as a smartwatch,
I don't think it makes any sense.
I think as like a fashion watch, maybe, but then you're probably better off getting something
that isn't this and isn't going to die off a watch battery in 60 days because replacing
that's a lot more annoying than charging something.
I mean, I don't, this'll be eye grabbing.
That's super cheap.
I guess it could work as a party favor.
Yeah, it'll be a long time before it's that cheap, but, um, I don't know.
I think, I think it's cool what they're doing.
Uh, it's, it should be noted that there is no Sony branding on it.
So, um, so FES, uh, fashion entertainments is a subsidiary of Sony, Sony, even though
they're not really talking about it.
And they've actually raised a 3.5 million yen, 30,000 us dollars from more than 150
dollars via crowdfunding in order to get this idea off the ground.
I do find it interesting that a company like Sony, if we're going to get criticized for
crowdfunding, then Sony, mind you, Sony is more broke than us.
They have more assets, but they, I, they, they may have less to assets.
I think they're not more broken.
Okay.
But yeah.
Okay.
No, I know.
I know.
But like if we, if we look at it, that's like the, that's like saying like, Oh yeah, the
dude on the street has 15 cents in his cup and I own a house, so I'm way more in debt
and he should be giving me money.
Like that's the same broken logic.
It is broken logic, but they, they made less money than us last year.
Even if we only made a dollar, we made more money than something negative, right?
But then they still have their assets.
I know they have that assets.
Holy crap.
Is it six o'clock?
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
And Linus is now broken.
Yeah.
Cause there's a whole bunch of stuff that I still really wanted to talk about.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Um, totally just a concept.
Yeah.
This is a crowd funding thing.
I was wondering why that was.
No, but again, they have a crowd funding campaign even though most of the time the crowd funding
video at least sort of shows off a sort of functional product of some sort.
This secret bracelet is just obviously not even anything other than a pipe dream.
I mean the idea behind it is very cool.
So there was a simple sketch then a first molding.
Now it's a dream.
Okay.
A simple sketch and a molding.
The jump to dream is not real far.
Not a whole lot of progress has been made.
Basically the way they want this to work is you'd have this, this bracelet that projects
your phone onto your wrist and they're like, Oh yeah, the way it's going to work is a,
let's see, no, they don't have any diagrams here.
I kind of wonder if this is just a way to drive more traffic to their secret app, which
is just a, like an encrypted messaging app.
Because I can't imagine they're going to build this and you can even tell from their campaign
video, uh, like the campaign video looks pretty, it looks pretty sleek and if it wasn't so
poorly done, I might even believe they'd made some progress on it, but this is just nothing.
And then this is just a motion tracked screen and then they're, you can see like they're
just kind of completely faking it.
The motion tracking on this one's particularly bad.
You can see it wobbling around on his skin, see, cause he's not holding his wrist still
enough.
Um, so the way it's supposed to work is there's like a Pico projector thing here and then
there's proximity sensors all along the edge here so that as you put down your finger,
you stop the beam and it knows how far away your finger is.
It knows which beam you broke and then it's here at where you press.
But the problem with that is they show things like typing on a keyboard and then if we go
later on in the campaign video, like I can see how people who aren't that tech savvy
might fall for this, but this is just straight up not going to work.
Um, I wish I could find the part of the video.
Yeah, there we go.
So with seven of those, if the way it works is by interrupting the beams, you will not
be typing on a keyboard.
It will have no idea where you're pressing well with that level of they'd have to come
out with their own keyboard and they would have to be like, you know how old phones that
work where you like tap something a number amount of times.
So like if you interrupt these two beams twice, no, no, it wouldn't be like that cause they
could have an onscreen keyboard as long as it all lined up and the buttons were nice
and big.
Then it could work cause it knows how far away you are and it knows which beam you can
attract, how far away you interrupted that beam.
Okay.
So it won't work, but it won't work with any kind of traditional keyboard and it's obviously
nothing more than just like basically like a, uh, a razor project.
Uh, is it Christine is the project Christine or something from, from CES last year.
Apparently they're still interested in that.
I think they're having a hard time getting hardware partners called it.
Uh, what else do you guys need so much?
Oh, this is, this is one more just kind of silly thing that I wanted to, uh, I wanted
to talk about.
So the, uh, dedicated one key hash key is now available.
Also a silly crowdfunding thing if I recall correctly.
Uh, so this was originally posted by a Linux user on the forum and uh, here's the isn't
original.
He just ripped off the control delete keyboard.
Yeah.
But now it's for social media junkies rather than people who want to restart their computers.
It's called hash key and it's an idea for a tiny one key keyboard that only does one
thing.
Put hash tags instantly.
Okay, cool.
It's actually doing not bad.
Like the crowdfunding campaigns, people are just going to get because he launched it at
the right time because people just want to buy it for Christmas stuff.
It's a cool stocking stuff.
Not going to be available in time for Christmas.
I know, but it's Christmas, so you're in Christmas shopping mood.
Yeah.
I think my mom, if she buys it, I don't know, five years before Christmas, it's probably
fine.
Now, one commenter here on Gizmodo actually brought up a very good point and said, have
y'all ever seen a British, it's a British Kickstarter.
Have y'all ever seen a British Mac keyboard?
Where is the hash key?
Whoa, who cares?
Whoa.
We need to stop hash tagging things.
They got their own pound.
Yeah.
Okay.
I didn't realize that- Good, I don't need it.
I didn't realize that it's not called pound outside of North America.
It's always been hash, hash sign, and then a hash tag is just-
I've never said pound key, always.
I don't know.
Was pound until the whole social media happened thing, as far as I could tell.
Of course, there's situations where you should probably use it, but don't... I hate social
media hashtags.
I don't know.
I've never really been into it.
This is cool.
Speaking of social, our forum, Adam the Geek, just posted, I just got a Pebble Steel.
Since then, I've been playing around making watch faces.
Made a wan show watch face.
That's sick.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I love it.
I just wanted to share that little bit of fan art.
I love this fan art stuff.
It's cool.
No one ever made fan art of us before, except that one really creepy thing.
Oh.
Yeah.
This was originally posted by Aming on the forum, and it's from HardwareZone.com.
Sony is- This is amazing.
They're releasing the VPL-GTZ1.
This is a 55 kilogram.
Guys, for those of you who think imperial, we're talking about 130 pounds, something
in that neighborhood, 4K ultra short throw laser projector.
It does 4K 60P over HDMI 2.0 with four inputs.
It needs only seven inches from the wall for a 17 by nine aspect ratio image.
You need two people to hold this thing.
It is 147 inches tall.
You can fit it.
Whoa.
What?
From seven inches from the wall.
It's a laser projector.
This thing is bad ass.
If you were looking to build the ultimate home theater setup and you kind of went, you
know what?
My home theater setup is not going to have a projector mounted on the ceiling.
You only have to have it this far from the wall in order to have a home theater sized,
perfect for every single one of them is hand assembled in Japan.
Okay.
How much does this cost?
You're talking about home theater setup?
Well, you'd be a pretty, you'd be pretty balling.
You're a ball.
Okay.
So like- It's 50 grand, I think.
Yeah.
50 grand US.
So you're talking about those like lottery home home theater setups?
Yes.
So to put this in perspective, this is 135 inch.
It would be like the typical 4k projector distance.
This one sits seven inches away.
Now it's not small.
It's a meter wide.
Like it's huge.
That's really big.
But it's pretty, pretty freaking cool.
I thought that was, that was pretty darn sweet.
What else is there to say about it?
Yeah, I guess that's pretty much it.
I think that's pretty much it for the show for today, unless you had anything else that
you really wanted to hit.
Guys, thank you so much for watching.
I mainly just wanted to talk about that whole, which we already talked about, DreamHack winter.
What a disaster, eh?
Because that's just been ridiculous.
I wanted, I wanted to show that Ubisoft was still digging despite doing some good things.
They did a good thing.
They did.
Let's give them credit.
I'm not taking off the shirt yet, and I'm not going to tell you guys to stop buying
the shirts yet.
They have like one dude in the hole trying to put dirt back in it, and then they have
another dude in the hole trying to throw dirt back out.
So I don't know.
They still haven't solved their problems.
Well, the hope is that the guy putting the dirt in will suffocate the guy taking the
dirt out, and then they can just keep on digging.
They can get rid of that guy.
That's not the hope.
Well, that might be their hope based on their goals.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
People are bringing up Star Wars, but I haven't been able to see the trailer yet.
You haven't seen it?
I have not seen the trailer.
Oh.
You know why I haven't seen the trailer yet?
It's because last night someone linked me to an imager post.
It's amazing.
It's amazing, here's the Star Wars trailer, and it was someone secretly filming in a movie
theater, and I was like, okay, cool, and then you get Rick Rolled, and I'm like, oh, so
it's not real.
No.
So every mention I saw of it after that, I was like, oh, whatever, it's not real.
It's just people trying to spread this Rick Rolled, whatever, I guess Rick Rolled's coming
back.
So I was just ignoring it completely.
It is so real.
And then today we're filming that thing that I'm not going to bring up that's coming on
Sunday, and Brandon's like, oh, yeah, have you seen it yet?
I'm like, well, I got Rick Rolled, and he's like, what?
I'm like, yeah, that's what it is, you know?
You got wrecked Rolled.
Yeah, I got completely destroyed.
Not only did you get Rick Rolled, you didn't get to watch the trailer.
I know.
So do you want to talk about it?
You can talk, I don't mind spoilers.
Sure, yes.
I'll just watch the trailer.
Yes, I will talk about it.
Well, the trailer has a lot of like long dips to black, so there's not a whole lot of spoiler
to happen.
It's like basically like a two second snippet, and then it's like, dip to black dramatically.
It's like a couple seconds, and then it's gone.
They're not showing you anything, but there's a couple really cool shots.
That reminds me of the Warlords of Draenor trailer, where it's just like the orc facing
at the screen, like breathing angrily.
They're not showing you anything, but it was actually a really cool trailer.
No, they are showing nothing, but okay, so there's one shot that made the hairs on the
back of my neck stand up, and they've got a couple of X-Wings information flying like
a couple feet over the water, and the water spray is like flying up behind them.
They've got, obviously, a Sith firing up a lightsaber that's actually got like a hilt
on it.
Oh.
Yeah, but the design of the hilt isn't very good.
It's kind of stupid, because there's actually like things that they come out of.
So the traditional way that that was used, the handguard was used as if the sword slid
down.
Yeah.
Well, that wouldn't block the blade, because if you slid down the blade, you'd cut off
the thing.
There's nothing preventing a lightsaber from being cut in half.
It would have to be like up on a weird angle or something, but yeah, okay, I got you.
So it is amazing how emotion-invoking just that music is.
Yeah.
That music, with some kind of imagery to it, I do love Star Wars, and I think I said this
on Net Linked today, over on NCIX Tech Tips, but if Abrams screws this up...
He's going to be called Jar Jar Abrams?
Yes.
I've read that somewhere.
Okay.
It's on me.
I still like the joke, even if it isn't yours, because Star Trek, I enjoyed the movies, but
there was really no risk that I wasn't going to enjoy the movies.
I'm not a Trekkie.
I watched a bunch of Next Generation with my dad when I was a kid, but as an adult and
even as a teenager, I never got into any of the Star Trek series really.
Hold on, pause.
Sorry.
Apparently the DreamHack match is being played again from halfway.
That is retarded.
No, that's not right.
That is super dumb.
Okay.
I'm going to ignore that for now.
We don't use the R word to describe things that are dumb, because that's not PC.
Sorry.
I acknowledge that your anger is not entirely unjustified and sometimes angry outbursts over
an incredible injustice.
Don't make it through the politically correct filter.
I'm sorry.
That's just stupid.
But that is ridiculous.
That is absolutely ridiculous.
Hopefully that's not actually what's happening.
Hopefully he's trying to add to the truth.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Apparently that's not confirmed yet.
Okay.
Okay.
That wasn't final yet.
Okay.
Good.
Good.
Anyway, back to Star Trek.
So I didn't really have any emotional investment in it.
I was able to watch those movies as just like fun space movies that I don't really care
about.
Star Wars is a whole other ball of wax.
I'm sure Nick has an official verdict.
DreamHack has not been decided.
Okay.
Not been decided.
Good.
So Star Wars, I have a much more, I read tons of the books and I owned Star Wars encyclopedia
reference style books, like the ultimate guide to vehicles and weapons and characters and
like read them cover to cover multiple times as a kid.
Like I'm a Star Wars kid.
So if he screws this up, if I hear any mention of midi-chlorians, I will walk out of the
theater.
Do you know the old like straight up golden black box, the VHS box?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ours is like half destroyed because of how many times I watched it as a kid.
Well, I'm a little older than you.
So for me, it's the one with the, uh, the, the blue Star Wars text, the, uh, my dad,
I think my dad had a version before that one, purple empire one, and then the, uh, maroon
return to the Jedi one and black box set.
Yeah.
But I also own the gold one.
That's funny.
So, uh, so there you go.
The remastered ones, the, the one, the gold one is pretty bad.
It's got a lot of remastered crap in it.
Greedo shoots first.
Yeah.
But the one that I own before that is the one that I grew up watching over and over
again.
Han shoots first, the way that he should have.
It's not even a debate.
I don't even understand what there is to debate about it.
You know, people start Star Wars.
People need to just get together and I'll go, look, we're not going to talk about this
anymore because there is no debate.
The many movie where Han doesn't shoot first is not a Star Wars movie.
Any movie that mentions midi-chlorians is not a Star Wars movie.
Any movie that has Jar Jar Binks in it is not a Star Wars movie and revenge of the Sith.
I can, I, I enjoyed it, but I have never once re-watched it.
So I, I maybe I'll go back and give it another shot and see if, see if it still holds up
to being not complete garbage.
Use the force Harry quoting Gandalf.
Thank you for that jerk.
You're banned.
All right.
Now, now the Twitch chat is full of Han, Han did not shoot first and so the show is over.
Thanks for watching guys.
Peace.
Bye.
The show is so over, like over enough that we're never going to do it again.
Greedo shot first until next Friday.
Yeah.
Then we'll do it again.
Yeah.
Very specifically at four thirty PST.
Yeah.
Unless we're late.
Usually.
So like in any range specifically from four thirty to six, we'll be like only like six
minutes late today, or maybe eight, they're both even.