What is up? How are you all doing? Happy Friday and welcome to the WAN Show. We've got a fantastic
show lined up for you today. The big news is that Nvidia is a bunch of assholes and
they're hard to work with. We now have incontrovertible evidence of what I have been saying for quite
some time. It might not be hot, but it sure is spicy. The Ethereum merger and moved proof
of stake was successful. We'll be talking about that. What else we got? More Nvidia
news as there are several leaks, including 40-90 leakage. Also, YouTube is increasing
the number of ads. What? By a lot. Wait, a what? It's like a ton. Oh. Like five. Holy
crap. Whoa. This could actually be a problem. Let's go ahead and roll that intro. Talk more
about that later. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Viscous Cree over on Flowplane
says Slow News Day? What are you even talking about? This is wild. This is like the best
news day we've had in a long time. Let's finish that intro. We'll be back here. You just need
to take a seat. Take a seat. Slow Viscous Cree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sit down. The
show is brought to you today by Kioskia, Squarespace, and Secret Lab. All right. Why don't we jump
right into the first topic here? The big one is obviously, I got to say, Jay was texting
with me last night because we were, how do I say this without insulting some of the members
of our community laughing over the fire. We were no, no, no, no. We were, well, what we
were doing was we were, um, chuckling to ourselves and each other about the number of people
that legitimately thought that there was some kind of beef between us. When I uploaded a
short yesterday, um, critiquing Jay's dropping skills and showing that I could drop our things
from higher and have it not break. There seemed to be some legitimately concerned members
of the community to which I'm really sorry. I guess I should have put a slash S. I would
say you are a more experienced dropper. Yeah. I mean, it isn't not, it's not untrue anyway.
So we were, we were texting and he basically goes, yo, okay, I can't tell you anything,
but stay tuned. You're going to want, I think that the video going up on my channel tomorrow
at noon is going to be when show worthy to which I will say, Mr. Two cents, you appear
to have been correct. Let's talk about it. EVGA has ended their partnership with Nvidia
and we'll be leaving the GPU business out right now. This is where things get really
interesting. Uh, they have cited a lack of respect as a major factor in this decision
saying that it is not purely a profit or, well, I mean, yeah, it's not purely a money
driven decision, which might sound very surprising to, I think people from the outside, a lot
of businesses just don't operate that way. But as someone who has dealt with the partner
who I think has caused a lot of EVGA's strife for a long time, this doesn't surprise me
even a little bit. And clearly there was at least some financial factoring into the decision.
Um, what we see from the numbers that have been reported here are that EVGA's revenue
was about 78% graphics cards, about 20% power supplies. And it's worth noting here that
that was at 300% higher margin than graphics cards and 2% everything else, which is, again,
that's something that doesn't surprise me knowing what I know from being in the retail
side that like I couldn't figure out what, why EVGA even bothered to continue to make
motherboards for years and years. I couldn't really post 780i, 790i, I couldn't figure
out why they bothered to keep making motherboards because as far as I could tell, nobody was
buying them and I appear to have been correct. Um, they have committed to support remaining
EVGA GPU warranties and have apparently withheld inventory to help replace and fulfill cards
as needed for people whose cards die. They expect to run out of RTX 30 series cards in
the span of the next few months here. They are staying in business, they're not planning
to sell and they haven't telegraphed any near term expansion into new categories. Now this
is really, really interesting. Um, hold on, where is it? Uh, where is it? Crap. Well,
let's just run through, let's just run through some more of the, no, no, I do want it. Yes,
here we go. EVGA apparently has no plans to work with AMD or Intel. And this is, this
is interesting because of the partnership. I don't want to betray them. And they, they're
referring to, uh, Nvidia and I've got notes in my doc here saying that this is kind of
a confusing response, but actually I am not that confused by that. And I can give you
a little bit more detail about that. Let's get through some of the, some of the facts.
So really this was, this was clearly a, an at least partially emotional slash, uh, principled
decision. And here are some of the ways that EVGA has, um, expressed frustration with Nvidia's
way of doing business. Uh, they've complained that they withhold pricing information until
their public announcements, including the actual cost of the part. So as a partner,
you would be expected to build boards, provide forecasts for your ordering, allocate, I mean
really Nvidia does all the allocation now. So, but allocate your boards to your partners,
like system integrators or retailers, all without knowing how much the product actually
costs. And that's not new. That goes way back to when I was still at NCIX working in product
management. Um, Nvidia would withhold drivers until product launch. So we actually, EVGA
actually ran into a pretty bad situation. Was it with the 3000 series launch or 2000
series launch where they had those boards that had, um, uh, that had some kind of, they
had some kind of defect and they were, they were popping under heavy load. I can't remember
whether it was 2000 or 3000 series too, but I could be wrong, but that's the kind of thing
where if you actually had drivers to validate your product, you might be able to make sure
that it's actually going to work before you release it out into the wild. Nvidia also
strictly enforces a price ceilings on some of their cards, especially flagships, removing
the ability of board partners to control their margins, making high end boards very difficult
to produce. And Jay said that Nvidia shut down cool experiments like dual GPUs and more
creative designs. And all of these claims, all of these claims have been corroborated
over the years, many times by other board partners. I've known of dual GPU boards that
have existed well past when Nvidia officially supported them that were as far as working
samples, but that were never able to see the light of day. Um, I've known of laptop exotic
laptop designs that never got to see the light of day that were as far as all the engineering
was done and only Nvidia's blessing was needed to release this product. Um, but Nvidia is,
um, I don't think there's really any other way to put it. Nvidia takes a very control
freak approach to their partnerships. Well, yeah, to everything. Um, let's just see if
there's a few other things that I want to kind of get through in terms of just the facts
and then we can get into some of, some of my own thoughts on this. Um, oh, this is good.
What happens to the employees who work on EVGA's video cards? This is a really important
question to answer. Their CEO claims that no employees will be laid off, but restructuring
will occur. Um, Hey, if there's anyone super technical over at EVGA who wants to maybe
join the media side, um, you know, you wouldn't be the first refugee who ended up over here
and we'd love to, we'd love to, uh, have you share your expertise with, with the community
kind of keep, keep, keep working, keep the other GPU makers honest. Right. Uh, so yeah,
my inbox is open. I think you guys, uh, you guys know how to get in touch with me. Uh,
you will have to come to Canada. It's not that bad. Uh, so some staff may leave now
that their projects have been killed. It's definitely a thing. That's, that's almost
certainly going to happen. Uh, let's, so let's, let's break down, let's break down some of
these things. The withholding pricing thing. Yeah. So I experienced this on the other side
of the, of, of the equation. So you've got your Nvidia, you've got your board partners,
you've got your retailers, right? So I saw it on the retail side. I, they'd go, what's
your forecast for, uh, you know, GTX five 80 and I'd go, well, what's the pricing? And
they'd go, well, what do you need that for? It's Nvidia. It'll sell. And I'm sitting here
going, what do I need that for? Well, because I'm trying to, cause I'm trying to run a business
here because I have to manage my cashflow because I need to know, is this a hot launch?
Is this an 8,800 GT or is this a fricking, you know, w w w okay. I'll try to think of
something like super crappy GTX two 85. Like which one is it? Is it good or does it suck?
I don't know how many I need unless I know what the performance is supposed to be like.
And I know what the pricing is. You're numpties. And so I have absolutely had that same experience.
And then over the years after we started Linus media group, I think Luke and I both experienced
firsthand the frustration of Nvidia, just keeping partners in the dark so that they
could take all of the fanfare, keep all of the excitement for themselves. I think really,
I forget, I always forget what board it was, but there was, there was a GPU launch. Do
you remember which one was it? 10 80. It happened to me more than once, but 10 80 was pretty
egregious. That was like pinnacle. They basically flew in press from all around the world to
come sit in the audience while they announced everything gave us absolutely no time to
produce content that could go up at least simultaneously with their announcement. They
had a concert after the announcement, which like sounds cool, except you're stuck at this
place. That's very far away from the hotel. You have nowhere really to shoot. And the
one place that you can shoot at has music that you can't have in your video blaring
really, really, really loudly in the background. So you actually couldn't really produce any
content on site. If I remember correctly, our video is like in the basement and I'm
like standing in front of a bunch of folded chairs and Kyle's video is like out on the
street and I think Paul's video is also out on the street. Like everyone's just like,
what do we do? It was ridiculous. Nvidia's utter disdain for their partners is basically
universal. Whether you are an OEM, like an engineering firm, whether you're media, whether
you're a retailer, SI. I think that I'm not the only one who has felt many times like
a necessary evil. And I think it's the exact same attitude. I was so, I felt like I needed
to be so careful calling out Nvidia during that hardware unboxed scandal where Nvidia
not just threatened, well not threatened, not just cut off hardware unboxed from receiving
review samples because it wasn't that simple. What they did was they put pressure on an
independent media outlet to change their narrative tune, to change their narrative angle in order
to be more favorable to Nvidia's marketing goals. And it was this complete and utter
misunderstanding and lack of respect for the role of media that I think was one of the
most insightful windows into Nvidia's attitude towards the rest of the industry that we had
gotten almost ever up until that point. And maybe ever up until now, I think finally,
finally seeing one of their partners just drop them and then come out and talk about
this is unprecedented. And I want to talk in a little bit more detail. You know how
on previous WAN show I had said that I had actually gone as far as to skeleton out a
video called like Nvidia who hurt you or like Nvidia why are you mad or something like that
where I basically would, I went around, actually I already did the investigative work, calling
up Nvidia partners, talking to them about their experiences dealing with Nvidia where
I kind of just, I wanted to do sort of like an appeal to maybe the softer side of the
leadership there to just treat people with respect, be a better partner, share a little
bit of the success. Well, not just a little bit, share the big success. Why don't we all
support each other instead of being so focused on trying to take the most for yourself? And
I don't know if you remember this, but I wasn't able to find that cause I thought it was a
Google doc. So I did track it down today and I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring this up. This is,
this is completely unaltered from from when I, from when I wrote it up. And so you guys
can, you guys are going to get a little bit more insight into my personal thoughts maybe
than I would have necessarily left in the, in the script. And you'll get a little bit
of insight into my writing process, but this is it. So these are the titles I had. I had
here, Nvidia, why are you scared? Why isn't video bully was kind of what I had in mind.
The slogan was, did your parents not praise you enough? That probably would have gotten
revised. Oh boy. I mean, for real though, the way they act, it's, it's classic bully
syndrome though. It really is. So here's what, here's what I had kind of, Oh, I haven't talked
about this publicly. Uh, one moment please. I can't read it from here. I showed your screen.
I was like, Oh no, let's uh, let's go through some of the other stuff. Um, one of EVGA's
frustrations is that Nvidia has been undercutting their ability to move their product by offering
founders edition cards at a lower price. And we've talked about this a fair bit, how Nvidia
is at an unfair advantage with their founders edition cards because they have drivers to
validate the product. They have access to the GPU's at a much lower level and way earlier
than their so-called partners do. They have extra margin because they don't have to worry
about, well, the margin of their partner and selling the chip. Usually it comes as a set
of chip and memory. So they just keep whatever margin their partner would have made so they
can actually undercut their partners in that way. Um, and the, the way that it's outlined
here is actually exactly that. EVGA needs to buy chips from Nvidia, but Nvidia can make
the chip and the board, uh, for their own cards. And if EVGA doesn't sell Nvidia doesn't
care because they've already profited on the sale of the GPU to EVGA. Now this is not quite
true what's in our notes here. So I added a comment that elaborates on this a little
bit. Nvidia does care a little about their partners. AIB is going out of business outright
has a negative impact on the Nvidia brand, which is why Nvidia cares because now that
Nvidia controls everything down to the box art, I mean going back even further, you used
to be able to download drivers from an AIB website. Your, your chain tech G force card,
you would download drivers from chain tech dot TW or whatever, not, not so much anymore.
It's an Nvidia card and an Nvidia box and you go to the Nvidia website. Um, so now that
they have taken such a, such control over the way that the products are branded and
presented to the customer. Well, the customer perception then is that their Nvidia GPU suddenly
has no warranty, which hurts the perceived stability of Nvidia as a company, which is
why they don't actually want their partners going out of business outright. So their control
freak approach then forces them to keep their partners on just enough life support that
they don't completely abandon the GPU business, or at least that's what they've been trying
to do. It looks like it's not working. Um, as for why they have so many adding board
partners or AIBs at all. Well, in the old days, I think the main benefit of the strategy
was that you could take up more retail shelf space by having more variants of cards from
supposedly different GPU manufacturers with different box art, but all with the same Silicon.
And so there was, there was this explosion in AIB partners, both for Nvidia and for ATI
back in like the early two thousands where you could go to, you could go to a store and
there would be, there would be a chain tech one. I think a bit even got into GPUs at one
point like ASUS MSI, there was a lot, there were a ton, there were a ton, right. And the,
the ad and board partners also acted as a meat shield. So while Nvidia might not be
able to have like, like a horrible, you know, 5% margin business on their balance sheet
as a publicly traded company, and they would be, they would be encouraged to, to ditch
that. Especially with the support costs that come along with covering, I mean, back then
lifetime warranties were not just EVGA, BFG and EVGA, both offered lifetime warranties
on GeForce GPUs. So it was a pretty cool time to be a customer. Yeah, it sure was. So Nvidia
could use their board partners as this like shield to keep this low margin, high risk
business away from their books so that their shareholders wouldn't look at it and go, well,
what in the heck are you guys doing over there? So it was highly beneficial to have a ton
of these AIBs. It also allowed someone like an Nvidia or an ATI to artificially make it
seem as though there was a ton of choice in the market. So your diamond GPU might come
with Tomb Raider and your MSI version of that same GPU might come with SimCity something
and like some other, some other game. So, and I shouldn't even say the perception of
choice. It wasn't an illusion. There was actual choice, depending on the game bundles you
wanted. I mean, even game bundles, there's no, there's no variation between GPU makers
because I can tell you this game bundles do cost the GPU manufacturers money to run far
less than the retail sticker price of the game, but more than $0. And it got to the
point where there was not enough margin left in selling these products for the board, for
the board manufacturers, for them to differentiate based on it. So they would only get any game
bundles that were passed down from the parent chip manufacturer. It's been, it's been a,
it's been a time. Still quite the bold move. I find the, all the employees are going to
be taken care of thing to be very interesting. Well, it is, it is such a huge percentage
of their revenue. That's also not profit. And at that tiny percentage of margin I do
wonder how much of their business this actually does hit. It's not like they're losing 80%
of their profit. No, they're not, but it looks like it's going to be about half of it. At
least I also have to assume there's a lot of very specialized employees and if they're
completely departing GPUs, like, I mean, maybe they go hard into motherboards, but it's never
worked for them. So I just don't really know what that would look like. Yeah. It's, it's
hard to compete. EVGA does have actual manufacturing capacity though. So that's, that's something.
In fact, that's one of the things that EVGA seems pretty, pretty frustrated about. Apparently
EVGA was doing manufacturing for Founders Editions, Founders Edition cards. And that
is no longer the case. Nvidia has been, wait, what is it? EVGA used to be the primary manufacturer.
Oh, Nvidia reference cards until Nvidia began selling their own Founders Edition cards with
the 10 series GPUs. The move towards Nvidia, and this is going to be interesting. I saw
someone talking in the chat earlier about some of the, some of the bad takes or like
wrong takes that I've had over the years. Apparently I said, Nintendo wouldn't sell
hardware within eight years, like on an ancient WAN show or something like that. This is one
that I think I probably got right back when Nvidia first started selling first party like
Nvidia branded GPUs. I'm pretty sure I called it, that the writing was on the wall. And
that was 12 years ago when, and it was a Best Buy exclusive. And really, are you not going
to redirect for me? Here we go. It was Best Buy exclusive and it was only mid range cards.
And I can explain to you exactly why this is. Because Nvidia, excuse me, would have
plausible deniability. Well, let's say it's about the partnership with Best Buy. We're
just making sure that there's like a consistent, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Best
Buy asked us to, you know, and don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It's just
like the entry level GeForce cards. It's not like, you know, the high, the high big ticket
items.
What's the whole thing? You push people right into the point to where they start protesting
and then you stop. So it seems like there's nothing to protest for. And then you push
again.
Yes.
And you just keep going.
You keep going bit by bit.
Bit by bit.
Bit by bit.
Literally, literally a one decade game plan. That's, that's how they roll. All right. So
I already talked about the, them caring a little bit. Okay. Yes. Okay. So let's talk
about that quote. Where EVGA doesn't have plans apparently to work with AMD or Intel
on GPU's siting because of the partnership. I don't want to betray them. That is not confusing
in the least. Nvidia never forgives. Nvidia never forgets. After what happened with the
hardware unboxed scandal, the second we went to bat for hardware unboxed, Nvidia was never
going to work with us again. They'll send cards because they can't afford the bad PR
of not supporting independent media. They've seen that now. So that's good. At least they
learned that much, but they never forgive and they never forget. And XFX is the only
example we need to point to, to demonstrate that XFX used to be Nvidia exclusive and they
made the switch to team red must've been over 10 years ago now. And I can tell you that
everyone knew at the time that they would never sell another Nvidia GPU, not ever. Uh,
and it's just, it's just the way they are. So what EVGA has done here is they've been,
I mean, now that they've spoken out about Nvidia, I mean, realistically, I don't, I
don't see them ever selling an Nvidia GPU again anyway, but at least they haven't poisoned
the well so much as to, as to, um, as they would if they were to sell like a Radeon GPU.
So what this does in my mind is it leaves maybe not a foot, but at least one toe in
that door in case they ever want to open it back up and start selling GPUs again. Um,
and that wouldn't, it wouldn't even necessarily just be like under the brand name EVGA, um,
that like, it wouldn't just be the EVGA brand. That would be a problem. I suspect that anyone
who was responsible for making that decision to sell Radeon GPUs, even if they formed a
new company, I just, I don't see them. I don't see them getting an Nvidia board partner.
Um, I don't know what it would be a certification, a license agreement, board partner agreement.
Um, Jive Turkey asks, I wonder if Nvidia is nicer to someone like Asus. I couldn't say
for sure, but what I can say is that they're not nice to anyone. So make of that what you
will. So let's go back to, let's go back to my doc here. Actually, let me just make sure
I don't have any identifying information for any of my sources here because I don't want
to get anybody in trouble. You know what I mean?
Okay. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Okay. I think I'm in pretty good
shape here. Sorry guys. I just need a sec. Oh wow. I actually wrote a lot more of this
than I thought. Did I ever, did I ever read this to you guys? I don't, I don't know. Man,
I went really hard. No wonder I didn't release this. This is really long. Holy snakeys. Okay.
Holy crap. It's still going. Oh man. Okay. Oh man. Oh man. I've got this whole thing
here. Oh, this is great. Examples of Nvidia being a bad guy. Uh, yeah. Okay. Well, I don't
have any personally identifying information, so let's go through and let's talk about this
a little bit. This is a video that I had originally slated for shortly after April of 2021. And
um, so I guess what I'm trying to say is while the news of EVGA terminating their partnership
with Nvidia, um, is, uh, surprising to me, it is not shocking. So I, I, I, I'm not, I
could have seen some kind of breakdown in relationship coming. I just didn't know what
was happening now. So, um, I guess this is a good opportunity for us to talk about the,
the aftermath of the hardware unboxed situation. I heard through the grapevine from more than
one industry contact that Nvidia was trying to put pressure on our partners to reduce
their advertising spending with us. Really? Yeah. And it's, it's the kind of thing that,
you know, I can't, I can't verify, you know, no one from Nvidia is going to tell me that
obviously. Right. Um, and I have no way of knowing if it's true because maybe Nvidia
didn't realize this at the time, but at their peak they were like 0.5 of a percent of our
annual revenue. So I would never have even noticed it anyway. And the funniest part about
that was one of the people who told me like seemed really nervous about it. Like they
were going to be the bearer of extremely bad news or something like that. I was like, I
was like my brother in Christ, let me tell you. Um, not only that, but there's like other
spots we could have filled that with very easily. So I have spent my entire career in
media trying to reduce my reliance on industry Titans like Nvidia. I do not need their money.
I'll work with them if it makes sense. I'm happy to work with them because let's face
it, they make products that people love that I love. Right. But do not kid yourself. I
will survive without them just fine. Um, so, so anyway, that was, that was pretty funny.
Um, and you know, I guess what, so what I, what I had to say about that was, you know,
why talk to me directly about a problem, explain your viewpoint and resolve our differences
like adults that mutually respect each other. When you can just take someone like me who
put a toe out of line and make an example out of me, not that it worked, but, uh, they
certainly tried. Um, you know, I, I had, I noted that it's, it's noteworthy that a mere
six months ago I was one of only two influencers tapped to premiere the eight K gaming capabilities
of the RTX 30 90 making the message clear. No one is safe from retaliation. Um, and remember
guys, this is a message they weren't sending out to the public. This is a message they
were sending out to partners and it's possible that they knew that they were not going to
be able to have any impact on my business because I mean, they're the cheapest that
I think I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with in this entire industry. Like it is what
it is. Right. So maybe they knew, but at the very least, what they were doing was they
were showing their partners how anyone could be cut off no matter how, you know, golden
boy favorited they might've seemed just a few months ago. Um, I had in here that I wanted
to proactively address any perception that I'm just, but heard about being cut off from
the Nvidia gravy train. Um, Nvidia. Yeah. Okay. I had that they were, this is how I
put it in the doc. I hadn't checked the exact numbers. It was point whatever percent of
our revenue directly. And as a pass through from partners, it was point something percent.
Like they might feel like they're putting the squeeze on us to bring us back to the
negotiating table. But, uh, I put that I felt they were overestimating their bargaining
position. Um, now this was, this was, this is the kind of the big turning point in the
script for years. I've seen some of their moves as a kind of 4d chess, but looking back
with the new context I have, their behavior might've just been emotional and reactive
rather than calculated and carefully planned. And seeing them lose such an important partner
as EVGA kind of reinforces that for me. EVGA and I've been saying it for a long time was,
was kind of a, a bit of a golden boy. And I think Nvidia even thought that considering
they had to make their original reference cards back in the day, like that's a, that's
a pretty big, pretty important partner to lose. Um, and hopefully they get the message.
Um, and then I, I pointed out that the hardware unboxed situation is such a perfect example
of this. They did something objectively awful. They got predictably called out on it. Um,
so I was sitting here going, nah dog, there's like, there's a master plan here. But then
instead of the master plan becoming clear, um, they walked it back in public and then
based on what I've been able to gather since I, I've never been able to understand what
that master plan might've been. I don't even think they still understand that what they
did was wrong. They just, you know, touch something hot and got burned and they're like,
okay, well I guess I won't touch that again, but I don't think they've made the connection
that fire hot, you know, do you kind of get what I mean? Um, because here they were putting
pressure on media, a media outlet again over a wrong thing. And it's like, you guys, you
guys, you guys still don't get it to you. Like it actually, that isn't going to work.
That is not how this works. Um, the only way that it was smarter was by being sneakier
by not talking to me directly. But even that's not that smart because this is the thing you
guys got to understand. Hardware industry is so small. It's so small and it's not just
small in terms of the number of people working in it. It's small in terms of the relationships,
the connections, it's inbred right over a span, over the span of the 15 plus years that
I've been in the industry, I've seen individual people who have represented, you know, half
a dozen different companies. So you gotta be really nice to people because you never
know if you're going to be working shoulder to shoulder with them a year from now. But
that's something that Nvidia has never understood, never understood. Um, I had in here that I
should do, uh, that I should do a really good explanation of MDF. So that's marketing development
funds. Um, so it's Nvidia's money to do with what they will. It's like a, an incentive
program for you to sell more or like market Nvidia products. And what it really is though
is a form of control. It is necessary for the survival of much of the PC component and
system ecosystem. And you need to look no further than main gear and new eggs attempted
IPOs. They just, they're not profitable enough to go public. And the reason for it, well,
part of the reason for it is that there's no margin in just selling the components.
And the only thing that keeps them propped up is this marketing development funding that
forces them to just push, push, push, push, push, drive the price lower, keep the volume
up so that you can keep getting these kickbacks so that you can just survive another quarter.
Um, I had in here to talk about percentages of kickback that I'm aware of from my time
at NCIX. I don't remember any of the percentages unfortunately, so I wouldn't be able to do
that. And then the dynamic is that they use MDF to rob you blind up front and then give
your money that you need back to you for fulfilling certain duties that they dictate. It's rough
to be clear. I don't have a better solution because another problem in the computer industry
is that it's like, I don't get it. Whether it's retailers or whether it's system integrators,
there's this race to zero. If Nvidia were to drop the price on RTX 3080 by $10, I guarantee
you that the retailers wouldn't end up, to be clear, I'm not promoting collusion. I'm
not saying that they should collude, but what I will say is that they're not smart enough
to make $10 for a couple of weeks. You should just wait and see how sales go. Maybe we could
just like make $10 for a change, but they just won't do it. So in a way MDF is the way
to make sure that the little mom and pop shops who will do anything to get someone to walk
through their door, including selling at a loss, can't just continue to trash the price
of the product and take all the margin out of it for everyone. So yeah, I don't have
a better solution, but it is a toxic power dynamic. What else? Oh yeah, so I had the
whole bit where Arm partners were upset about the potential Nvidia acquisition of Arm. And
then, you know, my point there was maybe if you guys, maybe if you guys weren't such a-holes,
this wouldn't happen. Did you ever think of that? That's no longer in the news, so that's
not really a relevant one, but I have, I have a point here. I thought long and hard about
whether to make this video. I'm already on Apple's list and alienating industry titans
isn't the best path to a long and successful career. But hey, whatever, right? Everyone
that I talked to, this was really interesting, supported the basic idea of doing this video,
but would not go on the record for me. That was one of the big problems that ultimately
canned this concept was that nobody would come out and say, yeah, they're awful. Project
Greenlight is awful. The way that they, the way that they handled G-Sync certification
is awful. Like they just, they just wouldn't do it. Ah, yeah. Yeah. I like DVGA cards.
I'm sad. Yep. So I had to do a recap of what happened with Hardware Inbox. Yeah. So here's
where we actually got into the scripted part of the video. I get it. Only the paranoid
side, but there's a limit you can't and probably don't even want to win 100% market share.
So why do you keep tightening your grip? Let's not pretend this pressure on the media through
Hardware Inbox was somehow an isolated incident. The difference is that most of Nvidia's pressure
gets applied to partners behind the scenes who are much more susceptible to damage to
their business than an independent media outlet who is going to be more and more funded directly
by their viewers. And then I had massive shout out by the way to my float plane peeps and
my lttstore.com shoppers. Let's go. So it comes across petty, emotional, and scared.
Are you really so insecure that when you're in a position of unassailable power, you need
to put down everyone else who thrives in your ecosystem to reassure yourself you're the
top dog, your top dog. There, I said it. Can we put it behind us now? Is it an insurance
policy? So next time you release a GTX 480, you'll be able to force manufacturing partners
to market it under their high performance sub brands. Don't think we've forgotten GPP.
Do you want to suppress independent evaluation of your products? Well, guess what? When and
if that happens, we're all going to immediately break ranks because the only thing you'll
have of us is money. And the second your partners realize that selling G-Force and G-Sync isn't
the most profitable move anymore, they're going to turn tail and run because you are
f***ing a**holes. So here's an idea. How about treating your partners with respect and dignity?
You don't have to fight over every scrap anymore. There is lots to go around. The craziest part
of all of this is that sometimes Nvidia is super cool. We praised the transparency of
their move to release their internal tools for evaluating total board power for graphics
cards and click to photon latency to the public. What was really telling about that was that
it projected confidence. Nvidia went out and equipped a big cross section of independent
media with the tools they needed to hold graphics card manufacturers, including Nvidia, accountable
for meeting the specs they advertised and delivering the best gaming experience beyond
FPS. Obviously, from my experience with Nvidia, I know that I wouldn't have received any
such tool if they weren't confident that it would show that Nvidia is king. But Nvidia
has tons of smart people working there who know that that may not always be the case.
And if they give us these tools now, it could reflect poorly on them at some point in the
future. But they did it anyway, because smart people at Nvidia know that a strong, well-informed
independent media results in more educated customers, which pushes their competition
to do better, which pushes them to do better. The smart people at Nvidia want feedback about
what they can do to make their products better. I know for a fact there are suits there who
wish it wasn't this way and that Nvidia could just control all the messaging to consumers
directly. But like it or not, we're the conduit. We're the ones who look at our audience feedback
all day, every day. We are the ones who have that relationship, not you. And I guess I
should thank you for this latest move, because if you keep going about your business this
way, consumers will never trust you and they will always need us.
Now, I had a little not finished paragraph here where I said there are problems with
this model, personal biases, echo chambers, lack of control, potential for corruption.
But as long as we're engaging in good faith and with mutual respect, it's served us well
for 20 plus years and can serve us for another 20. So with that in mind, Nvidia, I think
it's time to reflect on your pride. I'm not saying not to feel proud. If I wore a green
name badge, I'd be proud of everything the team accomplished there too. It's mind blowing.
I'm just talking about this inability to take constructive criticism. Yeah, so there's a
little bit more, but I just, I think that's the main point. It's a shame.
Yeah.
I don't have a ton to add, except that Nvidia was extremely, extremely frustrating to work
with when I was still doing coverage of things. Um, one of my favorite things to do ever was
to go on the road and cover things, do shows, do stuff like that. And it was always actually
insanely frustrating to do any Nvidia event because every time I'd know that like there
was going to be a major problem. And like I used to do basically every road show with
Brandon and every time that like Brandon and I would meet before to talk about like what
we're going to do, it'd be like, it's another Nvidia event. So let's make sure we're ready
to shoot in any possible condition because they're going to actively try to make it.
So it's hard for us. So we gotta like be ready to fight to be able to make a video. Like
it was, it was actually crazy. You'd, you'd work with anyone else and they'd, they'd be
like tripping over themselves trying to make sure that you can make the video properly
and to be clear, uh, AMD and Intel have both had their fair share of completely stupid
events that have made it very difficult to cover them. You always took those. I never,
but yeah, Nvidia had a special way of having a little F you buried in the difficulty. It
felt very intentional. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that's all I can really add, but yeah. Yeah.
Um, our, our last discussion question here is what's next for EVGA? I don't know. It
makes me concerned because they'd be the next Antec.
Um, people pointed out XFX as well. Um, I hope they do well. I've talked to Wancho a
bunch of times that I really like Nvidia because of some, some real bro moves they did in the
past way before I was doing this. Um, and they seem to have been able to maintain their
high quality and trustworthiness status basically this whole time. Yeah. Let's acknowledge some
good things. Nvidia provides in the tech industry and nearly unprecedented level of legacy product
support. Yep. Like they are still providing security drivers for Kepler for Kepler. That's
actually pretty crazy. I mean, imagine if you're, imagine if your Android phone maker
was actually giving you software updates for that long. I mean, there'd be less e-waste
in the world. That's a good thing. Not like they've been doing well with Linux, but they
do good things. Well, look, we're focusing on good things. I was trying to give EVGA
good things. You stepped in and started giving Nvidia good things. This was not, this was
not a, Oh, well EVGA, I mean, it's no secret that they do good things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, Nvidia does too. It's just, they deserve this, but I hope in doing this EVGA
doesn't end up cleaving their own employees and also themselves. That's all I have to
say. Yeah. Yeah. We've got people talking about how they're going to miss EVGA. Hey
dude, it's Mike in Twitch chat says EVGA replaced to like five generation old card for me once
with zero hassle. And that's the problem. That's why EVGA needs out of this business
because their brand reputation is that they want to be bros like that and they can't afford
it because Nvidia dictates how much their products cost, how much they're allowed to
sell them for, what they're allowed to innovate on. And they're sitting here going, well,
how are we supposed to maintain our reputation for supporting these products properly when
we can't even make any money? Yeah. I understand the confusion now, by the way, apparently
I accidentally said Nvidia, but I meant I was talking about EVGA. I probably just read
it at the same time, but yeah, EVGA has always been great. So I hope they figure it out.
I hope they can stay around. Motherboards is a scary business. There's already very
established partners that I think people default to and motherboards, aren't a super like sexy
product. Yeah. So I think if they work and you bought that brand before that's all you
really needed to do. So here's a tough question. Who do you go to for your next GPU then? Yeah,
I don't know. It's weird. There's no one with a spotless reputation at this point to support
their kind of argument though. If you look at my computer right now, do you remember
what's in it? Do you have founder's edition cards? You picked it. Yeah. Okay. So Gigi,
Nvidia wins. They just sell founder's edition cards. If I was still buying cards because
of what EVGA has done for me directly in the past, I'm not saying that other people should
do this, but what EVGA has done directly for me in the past, I would buy another EVGA card.
But I didn't buy a card. I got one from work. All right. So yeah, I don't know. I really
hope they make it because I like EVGA a lot, but yeah. All right. Well, why don't we move
on to our next topic? Let's talk about the... I have a bit of a curve ball for a potential
next topic or wait, can we even do it right now? No, nevermind. Let's keep going and I'll
make sure that's good for the next one. Chase has curated a whopping 38 merch messages for
us so far. That's a few. Oh, okay. Well, one of them we just did. So Bennett S, I think
we just addressed yours. We'll have to get through some of these, but we'll do them a
little bit later. Let's get through a couple more tech topics first. The Ethereum merger
and the move to Proof-of-Stake was successful. It's the merging of Ethereum's main network
with the layer that uses the new consensus mechanism. Basically, Proof-of-Stake has been
in a sort of trial period for a while until now. And this move has been actually quite
a few years in the making. Proof-of-Stake is good because it reduces the amount of computational
work that's needed to verify blocks and transactions. Pools of Ethereum act as validators for transactions
instead of solving complex math problems. To become a validator, it takes 32 Ether,
I guess it would be, whatever, 32 Ethereum, which is over 60,000 US dollars though. So
if the whole idea was decentralized, man, it's out of the hands of the elites, man.
It's specifically in the hands of the elites, man.
Yeah. So that's cool. People can pool resources though to become validators similar to mining
pools.
And that kind of solves that. But you can no longer mine Ethereum. Proof-of-Work does
still work for Ethereum Classic, but it's not exactly profitable. Even with cheap power
and efficient cards, mining on a GPU is now a very tough sell. The price has also dropped.
Ethereum was above 1700 US dollars just a couple of days ago. It is now at 1400 US dollars.
It's almost like people just want to like mine on their GPUs for sport. And it was never
about it actually being practical to buy things with Ethereum. Bitcoin has also dropped from
almost 23,000 US dollars. It had recovered a little bit down to 19 and a half today.
Okay. Wow. Vitalik, the Ethereum creator says this should reduce global power consumption
by 0.2%. Can that possibly be right? Because that is so much bananas.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's a bit. That's a bit.
The White House has put out a framework for regulating crypto in the US.
They have a laptop?
It's been in the works for about six months. The new guidelines are meant to position the
country as a leader in governance of the digital assets ecosystem at home and abroad. The Treasury
will complete an illicit finance risk assessment on decentralized finance by the end of February
2023. The framework points out that a stable USD-based coin could promote financial inclusion
and equity by enabling access for a broad set of consumers. So an official cryptocurrency.
It's even more centralized, man. To make stable coins safer, the administration says the Treasury
will work with financial institutions to bolster their capacity to identify and mitigate cyber
vulnerabilities by sharing info, promoting a wide range of data sets and analytical tools.
What does that even mean?
Sure. It means the government is getting involved in our crypto.
Oh boy.
Yeah. So we'll see. Well, my gosh. Okay. This is from Plouffe. Discussion question. What
happens now? Will anything really change other than graphics cards being cheaper? Linus coin
when?
Nope.
The graphics cards becoming cheaper thing has been pretty crazy. Have you looked into
that at all?
I know.
Whoa.
It's wild.
Whoa.
There is a, there is
We ain't filming Scrapyard Wars right now, but it might be the time for you to do your
own.
Yeah. Oh, getting into our next topic then there were some leaks from Nvidia. Next Tuesday
they are expected to announce their upcoming generation of GPU's at their G force beyond
event and in classic tech fashion, it's all spoiled. So keeping everything to yourself.
Yeah, that works really well, you guys. And there is a torrent of information on the upcoming
GPU's. Oh no, this wasn't the thing that I had wanted to talk about. There, there had
been rumors that Nvidia was, was tightening supply of 30 series chips to keep prices from
falling even further. I don't see where that was in the dock, but I thought it was, I thought
it was in here somewhere. Anywho, the newest leaks from Zotac, Galax Gigabyte and Lenovo.
Is Lenovo going to be your EVGA replacement go to?
No.
No, you sure?
Yep.
You sure you don't want Lenovo?
Pretty sure.
EVGA replacement?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
So here's the leaked Lenovo images here. I mean, it looks pretty chunky.
That's a big boy.
That's a big boy. Who's a big boy? Who's a big boy? Who's a big boy? You are. Seven
heat pipes, a Gigabyte. The Gigabyte leaks chose some box art. Here you go. Look at that.
It looks like an Nvidia card because they control what the box art can look like. What
keeps happening? Stop. Okay, sorry. I'm trying to show you guys here. RTX 4090, that font
doesn't look very Nvidia-y. Are they changing their official font? Cause that looks stupid.
You'd think if they're going to be control freaks about it, they'd at least settle on
something. Yeah. Typically they're pretty good at branding. Yes. There's some Zotac
pictures over on Baidu. There's some RTX. Spicy. So yeah, these will be, if you want
to keep supporting Nvidia, which realistically we're all going to because they make really
good GPU's then yeah.
What if gaming has compiled the latest leaked specs? It looks like we're going to be clocked
over two gigahertz, almost, wow, two and a half gigahertz boost. That's wild. 16,384
CUDA cores on the RTX 4090, 450 Watts of total board power. And it's going to be built on
TSMC's five nanometer process. Pretty exciting. It's pretty exciting. Pretty exciting. Notably,
no cards have shown an exposed NV link connector, meaning that perhaps SLI is finally dead for
real. It's one of the first things we've been looking for for like years. Spot, spot the
NV link. Where is it? Can we still do like monster 3D Mark runs? Come on. Can we still
do it? The answer is no. Our discussion questions here from Adam Sondergaard are what excites
you about the next generation of Nvidia GPU's? They'll be faster. Yeah. Yeah. Big, big, fast.
There's still, there are technically still some games out there that need it. Okay. Yeah.
Cyberpunk. Yeah. Yeah. Start, uh, you know, Hey, no. Cyberpunk is going to get cool. Cause
like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. They gave the community. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. What
did they chase? Do you know what's going on with this? Uh, so cyberpunk has changed the
way that they're going to release it. So I think they're having one main DLC come out
and set it to, but it's like free for everyone, I think. And then the mod tools are like the
tools they use to like basically make the game. Yeah. So now the community can actually
make the game. In a couple of years, the game will be like fucking amazing. No, no producer
goes away. Producer goes away. Only I may fucking swear. Okay. Yeah. So yeah. Once the
modding community, if they do, uh, then RTX 40, 90 cyberpunk, 2077, 20, 25. Yeah. Well
that's 24 later. Yeah. It might take a while. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah. That's true.
That's true. But the better the result, there's going to be a learning curve here. If people
like really want to do it. Uh, speaking of better the results, uh, I have a thing. Oh,
LTT store. Should we talk about that? The new one? We should talk about that. Yeah.
Okay. So wait that you want to talk about that? Yeah. This is the week. Oh my gosh.
We deferred it one week. This is the week we're here. It's going to your screen. It's
time to go. Uh, I mean, you can just go to it yourself if you want. It's LTT store test
dot my Shopify.com. This is a test site. Uh, we are looking for feedback. Do not email
support. Don't. I don't know if I can even say this, but if you email support, I think
they should just delete it. They will and not respond. They will. They will not respond.
Don't do that. They have way too much stuff to do. There is a feedback form. It's in the
announcement banner at the top of the site. You can click on it. It'll bring you to a
Google form. It is not required that you fill out every section. So if you want to leave
feedback on just part of the website, it's done like by page. So there's like homepage
feedback collections, paid feedback, product, page feedback, whatever. Um, and you can,
you can fill out whatever you're interested in filling out on the form. You can poke around.
This is, uh, the new theme. This is what we want to launch onto the store. Are you going
to show us around a little? Uh, I can, yeah, I'll focus. I'll focus through some while
you do that. I have a pretty big announcement. Oh, speaking of the, uh, the thing that's
on screen right now, I think is what he's doing. Yeah. Oh, Oh my. So heavy. Oh geez.
That's a lot. That's a lot of stuff. Finally here. Yeah. The big boy, the big boys here.
The big boys on the store. Hey Luke, go ahead. Go ahead. Show us around. I'm just, I'm just
cruising around while you do this, but it should be very familiar, uh, to the, um, to
the, to the experience that you have right now, but modernized a little bit changed in
a few different ways, improved in a few different ways. It's on a new, uh, Shopify system. Uh,
Conrad calls this the dusk theme, but it's on a new Shopify. It's built modified from
a new Shopify theme called Dawn. Uh, so it should come with more extensibility and more
things that we can do to it in the future as well, which is good. Uh, because the theme
that we were on was going to be problematic in that regard. Um, but yeah, it's here. I
guess I could like mock checkout something. Why don't you show us some of the like cool
work that the team has done? Like, why don't you show us, um, like some of the, some of
the neat like, uh, filters and stuff. Filters and stuff. Right. Okay. So there's a couple,
there's a couple of new things I guess when you're looking through products. So let's
go to water bottle. Now instead of like redid the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh,
instead of, uh, scrolling all the way down the page for like a million years because
the, uh, the creator warehouse team lovingly wants to have 300,000 photos for every single
product. Now there's just this thing on the side that you can scroll through here. You
can see all these images that I'm flying through. I mean, it's not entirely on screen. Let me
see. There we go. I got to fit it over us. There we go. Now I can scroll through images
over here. I can click on whichever ones I want and it'll enlarge it on the right hand
side. Uh, and it looks all good. I like this part a lot. Uh, I'm trying to remember everything
else that changed. I've been looking at this theme for so long that it's hard to remember
what all changed. Um, darn. I know there was that. There's also, oh right. Okay. Filters
and stuff. So if I go to all products, there's filters on the side and this page scrolls
forever. So we'll just keep loading things. That is also new. Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot
of products. Uh, yeah. This is a lot of things. Yeah. Um, and yeah, you can, you can sort
by different stuff. If you change your, like your main, like if you go to clothing or gear,
it will change the available, uh, filters on the left hand side. It was kind of wild
going to the backpack pop up, which we did at our distribution center because I get a
run rate report every week that shows like how much inventory we have. But there's a
big difference between seeing the number 1000 in like a, an on hand column and a spreadsheet
and seeing a thousand water bottles. You know what I mean? Um, speaking of a thousand water
bottles, we have a lot of these in struggle to give you some idea of the scale of this
magnificent beast of a 64 ounce water bottle. This is our 40 ounce, which is already a pretty
chunky boy. And this is our 20 what is it? 22 whatever, like 20 ish ounce. This is the
original LTT water bottle. It's like baby water bottle by comparison. It is insulated
just like the, uh, the 20, 22, I think it's 22, like the 22 and the, um, the 40 ounce,
um, uses the same cap, the same new cap style as the 40 ounce and is available in a ton
of different colors. We have, this has been one of the most requested products for the
store in the last year. So hopefully you guys all, hopefully you guys all enjoy that.
Oh yeah. Quick, quick note about the store page is that, uh, like payments are disabled.
If you do get through, it's just going to be canceled. You can't actually buy things
on the test store. Um, we will manually cancel them if you, if you get through. Um, I'm trying
to remember other things that changed, but there's a lot of like stylistic stuff. Um,
yeah. Okay. I think there was some stuff in the checkout, but yeah, you guys should just
check it out yourself if you're interested and leave feedback on the form. Yeah. We want
to make it a better, we want to make it a better site. Oh yeah. This is different. This
is, uh, this is related to what is in your cart. Looks like we got some photo squish
on the backpack. Well, yeah, probably want to look into address that. No, no, that's
the new, that's the new small version of the backpack. Oh, you have micropack. It's the,
it's the short boy version. It's specifically made for me. Wide bag. Yeah. It's for walking
through the halls of the Kremlin. Yeah, exactly. That song should play from the meme when you're
on the page. Stop leaving me feedback in float plane chat. Use the form please. Yeah. Float
plane chat is not manageable to, to compile feedback. Thank you though. We appreciate
the effort. Yeah. In other LTT store news, uh, is it just the water bottle or is there
something else going on? Oh, we had, no, we have two new colors of the waffle shirt. Yes.
This is one of them. I believe this is, yeah, this is all of, and there's also wine. Um,
and if you buy ABCs of gaming, you get a free dad hat. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
Cause you're a dad. So you need a hat and a book to read to your child. Yup. Just a
cart and the discount applies automatically. So you don't need to actually type anything
in. Okay. So here are our colors for the waffle long sleeve. We've got olive. What a nice
picture. Great. David. You've got charcoal. We've got a wine and we have ultra Marine
for different colors of the waffle. It's a popular one. People, people live the waffle.
So now we have even more cool lowers. I like, I like, this is probably the only time you're
going to hear me say this, but I like wine. You like the wine color. Yeah. It looks nice.
Looks sharp. It's very like warm and Christmasy and where it's slowly transitioning into those
seasons. Not quite there, but getting there. All right. You know what? Let's do our sponsors.
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have the dates. I don't want to tell the dates because I don't remember them exactly. Oh,
I certainly don't remember them. Wait, aren't you the organizer? No. Yeah. Okay, we're turning
off the producer camera. I want I want Bell back. Where's my Where's my crowned and caped
Jake Bellavance? It's pretty funny though. Okay. So I got injured at work this week.
We did I watched it. I'm not going to spoil the result for you. But all I can say if you
guys haven't been if you guys haven't been keeping up, let's just go to twitter.com slash
is it just I've had so much fun over the last little bit saying like, Dennis is fighting
Linus in the way that what's his name? Is it tank in the matrix says Morpheus is fighting
Neo. I've been trying to I've no one's ever gotten the reference. How could you did not
get there. But I've been I've been really enjoying that. Redacted retracted by the way
asks if the Backstreet Boys are playing in Vancouver next year. I don't know. But I saw
them this year. So I have I have ticked that off my bucket list. And for those of you who
don't get that reference, I missed my Backstreet Boys concert twice. I had tickets and missed
it twice. Because LTX absolutely had to be on the exact same day that they were playing
in Vancouver. So let's go over to my screen here for a second. For those of you out of
the loop. Dennis has spent the better part of this month being trained in a combination
of taekwondo and kickboxing and Krav Maga. And what in Krav Maga? I don't even know what
that is. Oh, what is it? No, I don't. He didn't use it. So is it like dangerous MMA stuff
or? I think you'd probably consider it that like people were like attacking it with knives
and yeah. Oh, sure. Okay. So Dennis has been getting getting trained up in preparation
for a fight with yours truly. That fight took place on Wednesday of this week. Yeah. And
Dennis's post post fight teaser is my feet hurt a lot from kicking Linus. Make sure you
follow channel super fun for the video. My post fight teaser here. Hold on. He's actually
got he's got a few more interesting videos on his personal Twitter. Yeah, this this is
this is something. So that's what I was talking about. Yeah. Okay. Not that he could have
even used that. He's been doing some practicing. This is super appropriate. Burning the eyes
out of a picture of me for for sparring practice. Anyway, the point is the fight took place
on Wednesday of this week. I'm not going to spoil the result, but my teaser is that whatever
you think the outcome is, you will be surprised. Do you think that's fair to say? Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah. As for what happened to me, I have been limping around. I unfortunately
aggravated a an old existing injury in my left knee. I have a torn meniscus in my left
knee that was not so deep that I had to get surgery when I took a few months off at the
beginning of COVID lockdowns. It actually healed up well enough that I've been able
to do anything that I would want to do for quite a while now, but didn't heal enough
that I don't have to worry about re injuring it. And I did unfortunately re injure it.
How bad is it? Adding some tension and drama to the video for sure, because it happened
about halfway through the match. It's pretty bad. So when it was at its worst I don't know.
You're going to be careful here. When it was at its worst, I could only go down about this
far before it would give up. Yeah. When it was at its best, like up until no, no, no,
I'm good. I've got the table. When I, when it was at its best up until the match on Wednesday,
I was able to go all the way down, heel to butt, and then lift myself up with just one
leg. Now, should you do this? I can get to about here and that's it. Oh boy. And that's
with me icing it and doing basically nothing for the last two days. Someone said, I think
Linus won since he was a high rank in some martial art. So was Dennis. Dennis actually
surprisingly has a black belt in Taekwondo. Both of us trained about 20 years ago and
both of us have black belts, but like first degree black belts in our respective martial
arts. So, and I mean, I guess we both got injured. So it was, it was interesting. I
want to say so much, but I can't. Yeah. We'll have to wait. You guys have to watch the video
first. We'll have to wait. It is what it is. Do we know when it's coming out? I know there's
like a lot of footage because of all of his training and stuff. I have no idea. I think
it's going to be a bit of a longer edit. So guys, I'm sorry to tease you. I want to talk
about it. Oh well. Yeah. Well it's okay. It's okay. Should we talk about Google ads? Oh,
do you even really want to? No, this is terrible. Yep. This is terrible. I'm going to give the
stray cats update first. Okay. Um, we have taken them to the vet once. Okay. They have
their first vaccination shots, but because they were near other stray cats up until the
very moment we captured them and brought them inside, it's possible that they are positive
for very horrible cat diseases that, um, they can't detect yet. So that vaccine they gave
them is hoping that they don't already have like feline HIV or whatever. Yeah. But if
they do, we can test them in a month, find that out, and if they don't have it, then
we can give them their second booster, neuter them, and they're good to stay. But it is
to stay, but it is possible that they have just health problems that are, that are going
to be a problem because the thing is from our point of view, um, dash was here first,
our existing cat. You got it. You got to treat it that way. And there's, there's just, there's
no way that if this is going to be an, uh, an un unbearable burden on her that we can
go forward. And I would say if they had an infectious disease that could put her health
at risk and that's just not how it's going to go. So right now we have them cordoned
off downstairs. We have her cordoned off upstairs and they have no, they have no access to each
other. How's the hash feeling about she has been a little pissy. Um, ever since we first
brought them into the house, she's chilled out a little bit. What I'm hoping is that
we can go real slow. So they'll just be in the house and then there'll be on the other
side of a transparent plastic barrier and then there'll be on the other side of like
maybe a mesh barrier and then they'll be in the same space. You do really similar things
with birds and we'll see. Yeah, we'll see what, we'll see what happens. See if they
kind of get over it. I think it might be fun for her. She's been getting a little fat.
Um, so it might be nice for her to have someone to play with. So we're just going to take
it real slow. We're not going to, we're not going to force it. And if she decides, yeah,
you know what, I'm going to be just like the aloof, you know, alpha and I want nothing
to do with you guys. Then that's chill because I think these boys are very close to each
other. Um, and if she decides she wants to be, you know, super, super into playing with
the kittens, then Hey, that's great too. Uh, so that's, that's the update. We won't know
for a month if we can keep them. So we're going to try and keep the kids from naming
them cause otherwise that would be pretty rough. Oh boy. But if they get a clean bill
of health, then I, the plan is to go ahead and is there any issues like can, can anything
they're carrying transfer? Maybe not to you, but can it like linger on your clothes? So
we need to wash our hands like, like the for realsies, like for 30 seconds, wash our hands
after we touch them. Uh, but other than that, they said, no, it's not a problem for dash.
Those are fine. You just need to wash your hands. Okay. Cool. Good to know. Yeah. So,
um, and then, Oh, also there's a, there's a local organization that we're working with
to put some cameras up in the yard and hopefully figure out cause they think it's a colony.
It turns out the mom that was going around the yard looking for them after we captured
them was not mom. It was dad, which they said was very unusual, but they are as sure as
I was that it is dad. Cause the second I brought the big cat into the bathroom where I had
them at that point, everyone calmed down like that. It clearly he was looking for them.
Oh wait. Super unusual for cats. So wait, you, you caught the third. Oh yeah, we did
catch dad. Oh, dad has already been surrendered to a no kill, uh, like rehabilitation organization
for feral cats. Um, yeah, that's cool. It's not even so much that like it would be impossible,
but I think that integrating, um, an adult, huge adult feral cat with, with dash and with
the little kids was just a little beyond our bandwidth at the moment. It seems very, yeah.
Okay. Moving on YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Why not have five ads at beginning of a video?
Why not? Seems cool to me because I'm already putting five ads in the video. That's going
to make it 10. I mean, you asked the question. They did say, they did say a YouTube rep noted
this may happen with bumper ads that don't exceed six seconds. Uh, and I mentioned earlier
in this video, something about pushing until people protest and then pushing again later.
But anyways, um, people are seeing ads already apparently that are longer than 10 seconds.
So that's cool. I've also seen a screenshot of 10 ads. I don't know. Maybe that was doctored.
I don't know. Um, YouTube told PC mag that this was part of a small experiment that showed
users a bunch of ads at the beginning of a longer video rather than spacing them out.
Um, the spokesperson said the experiment is now concluded. Hmm. Okay. You know what the
really funny thing is? One of the reactions in float plane chat was, man, now I'm going
to have to get premium. Oh yeah. Okay. Apparently it's not five. That's how you let them win.
It's five to 10. Five to 10. Yeah. That is absolutely wild. Apparently someone got ads
on premium. That honestly straight up sounds like a bug. So tell me this, if I watch six
ads before the video starts, do I not have to sit through any mid rolls? I think that's
what they were saying. It's a small, it's a small experiment that shows a bunch of ads
at the beginning of the video rather than spacing them out. Okay. Because again, there's
that whole thing where you push a little bit and you can push more later on. So like, yeah,
we stack them all at the beginning cause it's a long video and maybe if the creator wants
it, they can enable throwing a big one in the middle too or something. And let me keep
going from there. Apparently someone had 10 unskippable ads on their video earlier today.
That's a little much. I actually, man, I forgot how much, uh, ads on YouTube drive me crazy
because I, I allowed my credit card information to lapse in my Google account. I did the same
thing recently about a week ago and I didn't even know that in YouTube music it, you can't
like play a specific song in your song, in your playlist. If you don't have a paid account,
it will go to it eventually. But it starts with other stuff. Yeah. And then there's ads
between each song. Yeah. Oh my. I've just stopped listening to music entirely. I turned
on the radio. I didn't realize I had let it lapse and then I was on a drive and it started
playing ads and I was like, what the heck? And I figured it was going on and I like looked
at my dash really oddly and like slowly press the like turn on FM radio button and I was
like, what? Wow. It's, it's been a long time. Do you still work? Are you out there? Is this
transmission still going on? Apparently it was. So that was cool. It was legitimately
better than listening to Google play music with ads. So sounds good. Fantastic. Yeah.
Discussion question. Is this the death of YouTube and what happens to it? No, it's not
because Google will keep pushing to the brink. I mean, that's their game, right? There already
are five, six ads on some videos, particularly like, you know, 15, 20, 30 minute videos.
If creators enable, if creators enable just algorithmically placed mid-rolls, YouTube
will serve you an ad as often as they think you'll tolerate. So one of the things I've
noticed is that on my personal account, I actually get served fewer ads than I do on
some of our corporate accounts. Oh, do you abandon? Because I will just abandon. I will
close the app when I get an ad. And not because it's like, it's like some form of silent protest,
but because I just honestly was done pooping anyway. It wasn't worth it yet. And so I'll
just leave. So my, my ad tolerance is extremely low and they know, they know that. So they
will serve based on what your tolerance is. Yikes. Yeah. But it's not the end of YouTube.
No chance. It's even close. There's just, there's nothing else like it. They also experiment
and push and pull back and try different things. Like they're so huge that they can absorb
a little bit of a downturn and then figure their stuff out. Absolutely. And it's not
like they rolled this out on mass. So I, I'm not panicking yet, but I, uh, I don't personally
think that YouTube needs more ads than they currently have. Uh, the ones that drive me,
I don't mind the one skippable one, even if it's like a longer cool down. But when, when
I have to interact with it multiple times, like when I get to two, um, is it to skip
one unskippable? No, one unskippable is better than two skippable. I don't know. Whatever
I don't have to interact with, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Cause I can just,
I can kind of just blank out and have no idea what I just looked at, which is, I guess as
a life skill. Uh, but if I have to interact with it, then it is a, it's a hassle for me.
I do wonder if they track like, uh, ads blocked somehow. Oh, I'm sure they do. Like, I wonder
if this experiment could show an increase in that, if that makes sense. Uh, probably
like I would think, I would think that would prompt some more people. I don't, I don't
just mean volume because yes, obviously you're serving more as the volume is going to go
up. I mean, percentage of users, which is what you were saying, but I'm just making
sure people understood. Yeah, it's tough cause it really depends on how the user is blocking,
whether they're using pie hole, whether they're using a browser extension. I suspect they
have the tools to, it's Google. They can probably figure it out. Yeah. To figure it out one
way or another. But there'd be, there'd be some noise in that signal. Logicus asks, what
if you could just pre-watch as many ads as you want and unlock points that you spend
on watch time? Oh, that would never work because every business and developer would know that
people would just set things to like pre-watch and then just walk away. No, no, because they
could just, uh, they could attention track through your webcam. Dystopian! You don't like
it, but you know that I'm right. Yeah, you are. You're totally right. Yeah. He's like,
uh, what is it? Like windows? Hello tech style technology. It's like, make sure not only
are you sitting there, but you're actually looking at the screen. Yeah. Yeah. Matter
of time before you can go and like you were like fake, fake eye things. Yeah. You weren't
actively smiling at the ad. Yeah. You didn't. That one only counts for half points. Next
time laugh. Yeah. Dance monkey dance. If you want bonus points, pull out your wallet while
looking at the screen. Oh, apparently pie hole doesn't easily block YouTube ads. I thought
it did back when we did our video on it, but maybe maybe they've gotten around it all.
You have to crack a can of a verification mountain dew to keep watching the video. Oh
my goodness. Oh no. All right. Anyways, merchant messages or Amazon selling dangerous goods.
Oh, we should do a couple of merchant messages because I think we've got a lot of them. Hey
chase, you've got a 21 incoming. Are you coming on mine? Try to refresh maybe. Yeah, maybe
refresh it. Oops. I might have put too many in the potential and the curated. So you might
got to look through them a little bit. There's a, there's a couple of buggos, but it's still
working. I've just needed to refresh once or twice. Good gravy. We have 43 curated merge
messages, which means we're going to have to move through them a little quicker than
usual. Yeah. Andrew the hut. Hey, like Luke and Linus thinking about upgrading my home
network set up from a basic router. Curious what you think about the dream machine slash
unify set up compared to a DIY set up with PF sense. Ooh, different strokes for different
folks. The dream machine unify set up is not cheap. Whereas a DIY PF sense box can be as
cheap as the computer that you already have sitting there next to you like that you weren't
doing anything with. Um, PF sense is absolutely a little more DIY. It's going to take a bit
more time investment, but I can't say that I'm anything but thrilled with my unify set
up at home right now. I haven't really been tempted to go back to PF sense. So if you
want to spend the money, you pick what you make some nice stuff, but if you want to save
a buck PF sense, it's good stuff too. Yeah. Alfonso I want to live stream games, but I
don't think my PC can handle streaming and gaming simultaneously rather than getting
a second computer. Do you think a steam deck and a doc would work well? I think the look
on his face says it all. No, I mean you could do it. Like if you wanted to game on the steam
deck and stream with your computer, that could absolutely work. But what's the rez on the
stream deck? Well, not 1280 by 800. I mean, okay. It's not ideal. Did I say it was ideal?
I didn't say it was ideal. Nope. Okay. And for 400 bucks, I mean, check out the video
we uploaded recently $69 gaming PC. Like all the GPU's are on crazy sale right now. Yeah.
Like it's a it, man, we're working on the upgraded $69 gaming PC, the $169 gaming PC.
And it's kind of wacky. It's fast. It's like good for under 200 bucks. That's great. It's
a good, it's a good time to be a PC gamer again for a freaking change. Joe B I have
a Quadro that works when I boot into Linux, but when using windows, it not only doesn't
output a signal, but also my 5,600 G doesn't output a signal until the card is removed.
Should I Chuck it? Sounds like you're switching to Linux. Let's go. It sounds, I mean, okay.
I have to ask, you know, Joe, have you tried reformatting your windows partition? You should
absolutely do that. It could be some kind of bugged out driver situation. I mean, DDU
before you reformat. And then if that's the case, then I would absolutely try it in another
computer to see if it's just isolated to something about your machine, your windows and
install. Then at that point, I mean, Hey, hook a hook, a brother or a sister up and
give one of your Linux using friends, a Quadro. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Zachary asks, will
we be getting short circuit sweat pants to go with the short circuit hoodie? I think
so. I'm actually not sure. I'm sorry. Oh, anonymous archive. Tim, your apocalypse PC.
Did you think about adding measure a filter to keep up mice or other vermin? I'll be honest
with you. Did you see the apocalypse PC? I skimmed it. Okay. I very much enjoyed the
comments about the piping and them saying it would be really hard to find. That's my
favorite part. Yeah. The apocalypse PC. So the real, uh, concept for that video, and
I think this got lost in translation somewhere along the line. I kind of arrived on set on
that one after having been off for a week while all the prep was done for it. Like I
was on vacation. Normally I would be, I would have my finger on the pulse for the projects
that we're working on. And what happened with that one was the apocalypse PC, which was
supposed to be like, like a, like a, like a bomb proof, bulletproof kind of PC concept
where the whole thing was like sealed and like indestructible kind of got morphed into
the or like the prepper PC, like the industry destructible one, uh, kind of got merged into
the plausible deniability PC, which was the one that was supposed to be buried out in
the yard with cables that could be quickly cut with one command. The thing could be wiped
and no one would ever find it. And they kind of became one thing. And so I saw some comments
going, Hey, why did you bury it? Why did, didn't you think of like flooding? Also, if
you were going to be inside with the keyboard monitor and mouse, why don't you just have
the computer there and just put the solar panels outside.
I hear you. I'm not going to lie. It kind of looked like you guys got a truck bed toolbox
and someone spent a decent amount of time putting some pipes on it and you literally
threw a computer in it and then spent the rest of the time hunting for pipes. But it
was kind of, it was pretty, it was entertaining to watch. I enjoyed it. I'm not going to lie.
That was me pulling one out of my butt. Um, the, in fact, the pipe tracking thing was
something that I was, I had actually asked because I knew the video was, I already did
know the video was going to be a little content light. Watching you run that excavator was
genuinely hilarious. Like I, okay. I, I, I forgot about that until now. I remember sitting
there and being like, I'm having way too much fun. Just like watching you run an S uh, excavator
for whatever reason. I have no idea why, but it was great. It had been so long and it's
so, it's so small. Okay. Watching your first scoop pick up like two rocks or whatever.
Oh my goodness. It's actually very funny. You should see how small that machine looked
with Nick Kalinin on it. He's probably bigger than the machine. Oh my goodness. I had a
couple of people critiquing my form. Apparently the blade is supposed to go in the front.
I actually had the blade in the front and then, uh, I like Kalinin told me I was supposed
to have it at the back as a, as a thing or something. You're supposed to put the blade
down instead of just leaving the tracks while you're digging. Yeah. And so I had it at the
back cause I thought it was like to keep me from tipping back, but then that wasn't working
at all. But I think I had it at the back, unlike my dad's bigger kamatsu thing back
when I was a teenager. I don't know. But yeah, I had, I hadn't touched one in almost 20 years.
So it was, it was like throwback to my childhood basically like sitting there at the controls.
It's fun. It's totally fun. It was, it was great. I really enjoyed that part. Anyway,
that whole video. So the, the, I emphasized the excavator even though that was not really
supposed to be a ton of the content. And then, uh, I arrived on, uh, on set, which is at
my house, but like still like at the prepared shoot and found out that we had not sourced
one of those tracker things. None of the research had been done because the team had decided
that that wasn't really necessary for the content. I was like, Oh my God, guys, there
is no content. Like whether I'm going to use these conduits or not, we need to go find
them. We need to go on this adventure because that was no adventure because yeah, not going
to lie. The rest of it was a sort of day computer tossed in a box. I know, I know. But that
part is actually very entertaining and a little bit enlightening showing, showing how that
thing works. Yeah. It was cool. Yeah. Like it was, it's actually, it's a cool video,
but it's mostly a cool video because of, uh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The mainline quest
in this game. Not great. Yeah. Side quests. A plus. Yeah. Yep. So if you guys were wondering,
yes, sometimes we do go into a video knowing that it's probably going to be kind of, but
we do our best. Yeah. It ended up being pretty cool. So I mean it worked. I call them learning
outcomes. Yeah. Like anything that you might learn from the video, I try to make sure that
in every video you will learn something that you didn't learn in a video from us before.
And so that like electronic divining rod thing for finding underground pipes was super cool.
Is that actually what it's called by the way? No. Okay. Yeah. I heard you say that in the
video and I was like, there's no way. No, no, that's just what I'm calling it. I never
bothered to look it up, but I was like, if it's actually called that, that's, no, it's
called like a pipe finder or something. The most like construction bro name possible.
Which is great to be, to be clear. Yeah. That's fantastic. Um, beautiful naming scheme. So
yeah, Tim, the apocalypse PC was a show and um, thank you for watching it. Uh, Blargarten
Hey Linus and Luke waiting for new CPU's and GPS to go live. Going to build my first water
cooled build. Who do you think has the best water blocks? I honestly couldn't tell you.
We mostly use EVGA EVGA. We mostly use EK these days just because they are awesome to
work with. The quality is good. I think their stuff looks great. No complaints. It looks
awesome. So because a lot of the time we're doing showcase builds for videos, we want
it to look really great. Uh, so I couldn't really, I can't, I honestly can't really comment
beyond that. There's lots of good reputable brands out there. We've just mostly been an
EK shop for some time now. Um, yeah. You asked about Corsair. Yeah. I've had no complaints
with Corsair's products, but, um, we've just, yeah, we've used a lot of, a lot of EK and
I haven't had a reason to use something else to repair. Have you considered opening a merch
warehouse in the Maritimes to have coverage of both coasts? Yeah, that worked really great
for NCIX when they opened an Eastern warehouse. In all seriousness, there were other much
bigger problems that ultimately killed NCIX, but I'm aware that commercial warehouse space
in the Maritimes is cheap and I'm aware that we could get cheaper shipping to particularly
the Eastern seaboard, but it's just, even though we've gotten like big, BC still classifies
us as a small business. Did you know that? Up until a hundred employees are still technically
a small business. Like we're not, we're not that big. If we were to open up a shipping
facility, whether it was on the East coast or whether it was in Europe or wherever else,
I think it's fair to say we would need at least a staff of somewhere between five and
10 people to run it. Does that seem reasonable? Yeah. So we would be increasing our head count
by as anywhere from like seven to 12% or whatever that works out to. That is, that's, that's
not trivial. You don't just, you don't just increase your head count by 10%. It's a lot
to manage. Who's gonna, who's gonna keep track of it all? Oh yeah. I just don't have the
bandwidth right now. I think that's the biggest, the biggest takeaway there. Michael asks,
do you guys have much experience with how production support works in large companies?
I don't even know what you mean by production support. Like, like video production or like
product production? I'm sorry, Michael. I don't know if I can answer this. A production
support person slash team is responsible for monitoring the production servers, scheduled
jobs, incident management, and receiving incidents and requests. Production support covers the
practices and disciplines of supporting the IT systems slash applications, which are currently
being used by the end users. No, I do not have much experience with how that works in
large companies. At NCIX, I would fix my own workstation. Yeah. And a lot of people here
are pretty technical. So I think it's either like you are or the person next to you probably
is. So you kind of just figure it out. Yeah. Oh, Reed C asks with what has happened? Do
we think this will cause a ripple effect with other companies breaking their partnerships
with Nvidia or even moving to AMD in response in some way to the whole situation? Honestly,
I kind of doubt it. I don't, I don't think Nvidia is genuinely going to do any introspection.
I don't think that the rest of their partners will risk damaging that relationship. Because,
and this is one of the reasons I'm so worried about EVGA's future, without GPUs, you know,
what is their identity anymore? You know, why would I necessarily, and I'm not saying
they make great power supplies, you know, but why would I get an EVGA power supply when
I'm already on Asus's product page, getting in a Strix GPU? Well, I'll just get a Strix
power supply. You got to think about the way that an average consumer might shop. And so
I think that that's one of the ways that Nvidia keeps a lot of their partners in line, because
even if GPUs are loss leaders, which is ridiculous and they shouldn't be, loss leaders do play
a role in a manufacturer or a retailer's strategy. So if you just don't have that product that
drives people to your brand, that keeps people talking about you, how will you sell your
other products? It's very challenging. So no, I don't think anyone else is bound to
break ranks, but if they do, then hey, maybe Nvidia will have to reconsider. Matthew P.
asks, hey Linus, can we get the pet goat story? Oh boy. We were at an animal auction and for
some reason, I don't know why, I got it in my head that I wanted to get a goat. They
were super cute, baby goats, adorable. And so I got a goat. My goat's name was Goby.
And the understanding was the goat would be my pet. She had a pen that was separate from
all the other animals and I'd go out and hang with Goby. Very, very friendly, very engaged
animal. The problem is that as Goby got older, she would escape a lot. Goats are natural
escape artists. And if it had been possible to keep Goby penned, I don't think that we
ever would have consented to have Goby taken to slaughter. But the problem was that in
the area that we were living, the probability of Goby getting out on the road, which was
what she was doing, and ultimately getting either hit by a car or killed by a bear as
there were many of those in the area, was getting uncomfortably high and tracking down
Goby and bringing her home was getting more and more and more difficult. And so what I
ultimately agreed to with my parents was that, yeah, if Goby was going to end up dead anyway,
it might as well be for food. We lived on a farm and so Goby was far from the first
animal and not even the first animal with a name that we ultimately slaughtered, but
that I didn't want to eat Goby. So if they were having Goby for dinner, I would have
something else was sort of the agreement. And then they tricked me and told me it was
like ostrich or something. And so I did end up eating goat, which was not my intention.
So I was not thrilled as you guys can probably imagine. It's pretty annoying because that
was not the deal. But I think my parents probably thought it was pretty funny at the time.
Tricking people about food isn't funny.
But I don't think that it's particularly funny personally. That is the pet goat story. I'm
sure that if my sister and I got together and built another computer, we could probably
tell lots more stories. If you're not a Floatplane subscriber, I think there's going to be some
stuff that ends up in an exclusive on Floatplane that didn't make it into the YouTube cut.
But I don't know that we're going to get too deep into our childhood stuff in public. It's
just not worth it. I don't need the drama in my life. Should we do the topic maybe?
Yeah, sure.
I just got signed out of the doc. So you're on point.
Okay. Sounds good. There is also a lot of merchant messages.
Yeah. We might just have to cut some of them.
Okay. Amazon selling dangerous goods. So I want to talk about it.
Yeah, let's talk about it.
The latest issue of many is an issue with a three-prong mail-to-mail extension cord
meant for generators. This product is very unsafe. When plugged into a generator or outlet,
the opposite end has live electricity posing risk of electrocution. Additionally, the flow
of power in the reverse direction can circumvent safety features of the home's electrical system
and start a fire. The cable is also very short, which means the generator would be close to
the home, increasing risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. People call them suicide cords.
What a great name. Also, that note about increasing risk of carbon monoxide poisoning is very
interesting because in July of 2021, Amazon was sued by a U.S. product safety agency,
over dangerous items, including a carbon monoxide detector that fails to alarm. So you can get
the wombo combo. You can get the increase in carbon monoxide poisoning and the chance
that your carbon monoxide detector won't work. Awesome. Also, they used to sell flammable
children's pajamas, hairdryers that could electrocute you if dropped in water. And they
stated that Amazon is responsible for third-party sellers.
Oh, wow.
Amazon Basics products have been known to fail spectacularly as well. There are examples
included in the article, including pictures. Is that, is that a lightning cable? Oh, it's
a lightning cable. Wow. Whoops. That's a, that's a heck of a thing. In 2017, a USB cable
caught on fire. In 2019, a charger caught on fire as soon as it was plugged into a car.
That's wow. Yikes. In 2019, a microwave caught on fire and almost burnt a house down. Microwaves
are powerful. They're a heck of a thing. The microwave was analyzed by the University of
Maryland Center for Advanced Lifecycle Engineering and was found that the heat, that's a, what
a name, and was found that the heating device on the inside was the cause of the fire, acting
as if someone put tinfoil inside of it. In 2019, an Amazon Basic surge protector caught
fire with a single phone charger plugged into the device, unused at the time of the incident.
Yikes. Now to be clear, you sell enough hundreds of thousands of products, eventually you're
going to have a couple defects. But the main reason that I wanted to bring this up was
because I felt like it opened up a really, I think a deeper conversation about how consumer
protection has changed in the move from retail to online. There is essentially zero barrier
to entry for some random product and start selling it to any random person, regardless
of which jurisdiction they live in, what their level of technical expertise is, like whether
they're qualified to use the product. And you know, I'm trying to think like, would
I have even had access to buy something as dangerous as that male to male power cord
when I was 15? Yeah, really. There's two things in Flowplane
chat that I think are pretty good. Jerry Riggs says there's a huge difference between defective
product and inherently dangerous one by design. Absolutely. Defective products happen. That's
a thing. Yeah. Inherently dangerous is really bad. And
that was really the main thing that I had wanted to discuss here was that there is comparatively
nothing standing between because at least with like a retailer, there is, they have
to be the first line, right? When something goes wrong, when a customer gets mad and comes
and complains about a problem, they have to deal with it. Whereas Amazon has this level
of abstraction with these third party sellers and they're not the only one. Anyone that
takes a marketplace approach to third party products that are available on their site
has this shield in front of them that's like, oh, well, I mean, we didn't sell that. We
just had the listing. Yeah, we'll take it down. But they're not doing, and they're not
being forced to do the due diligence that I feel like a brick and mortar retailer would
just inherently have to do. Oh yeah, definitely. A hundred percent. Yep.
And not even just have to do that would just inherently do. You wouldn't put something
on the shelf without like looking at it first because shelf space is valuable.
You see this on a lot of products too, where they're just riddled with lies. I used to
rant about this all the time and then I'm not going to name who made the video, but
I watched a video from us fairly recently that was really bad about this in my opinion.
But saying that things are, for instance, I don't remember if this is how it was said
in the video, but waterproof is like not a thing.
Yeah, waterproof is stupid. Yeah. I don't remember which one, but it was
something like that. It was like waterproof or fireproof or something that was mentioned
in our video. Did we say something was waterproof?
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was a, it was a, it was definitely
waterproof. I'm remembering the video now. Okay. Yeah. No. Did I host it?
No. Okay. I'll, I'll talk to, I'll talk to the
team because I like even in a, okay, so Vesey, longtime sponsor of ours, love Vesey, they're
talking points, say waterproof. And I always, when I do the read, I always change it to
water resistant because, and I've told them like, I'm not going to say that. That's stupid.
Nothing is waterproof. Water will literally cut a path through stone. Nothing is waterproof.
And that's fine. Give it enough time.
Yeah. Water, water will you up son. It'll find a way. Yeah. But there's, there's
a bunch of products. I don't remember who the video is from. I wish it did. Cause it
was actually really good. But the, one of them that I saw recently was, was flashlights.
There's a bunch of product categories on Amazon where it's just filled with lies and I'll
give, I'll give a, I'll give a 45,000 lumens for some crazy duration. And I'll give a plus
one to anchor here because they pointed out anchor flashlights and I'm sure there are
other ones too, but it, it looks bad on Amazon. Anchors flashlight looks bad because it doesn't
last as long and it's not as bright. But then the claims about lasting a certain amount
of time and being a certain amount of brightness are just categorically false. And then anchors
were actually accurate and it's super frustrating because you're hurting these brands that are
actually trying to be real with their information. It's like we said our 64 ounce water bottle
will keep your drink ice cold for 23 days. Yeah. No. And then, and then it creates this
arms race of lying, which is just not good. And like they, they should, in my opinion,
have to crack down on stuff like that, but they should be responsible for the information
on the site you're saying. Yeah. And, and you know that they don't because it's not
just flashlights. Oh no, it's everything. It's like everything. It's everything. I mean,
we went through this with dash cams. Yeah. Dash cams are one of those categories where
until we made that video, I would have had absolutely no idea what to buy. In fact, I
tried, which is why we made that video. Yeah. There's another comment in floatplane chat
from Jayden. Power cables on Amazon is a huge problem in general. Some of the most popular
ones are so thin that they could safely carry basically zero power. That's a very good,
that's a very good point. Yeah. I recently watched a review of extension cords because
I was sketched out about that essentially. Yeah. Cause I was like, this actually seems
like something that could be sketchy if you want it to go for a pretty long distance and
you want to send a pretty decent amount of power through it. Like I need to find, find
something that can do this properly and that I actually believe is saying the right information
because I don't believe things on product pages anymore because of basically Amazon,
because it's creeping to other sites now too, because people are like, well, Amazon doesn't
do it. Amazon doesn't do it properly and we have to compete with Amazon. So we're just
going to lie too, which is just horrible. Nerissa says, can't wait for the lab to start
testing this kind of misleading marketing. Yeah. Honestly, looking at how underserved
the public is in just like areas I didn't even think about. I didn't even, I'm sorry,
I didn't consider extension cords. I just, I didn't. Yeah. But it can be sketch if you're
served something that's just junk. Our lab could be three times the size tomorrow. Yeah.
And we would run out of space if we wanted to try to do everything that I'm looking at
going, this needs to be tested. Someone needs to do this. Yeah. So we'll, there's some,
I don't know, I don't really want to talk about it, but there's actually some, uh, some
really cool stuff currently being tested at the lab that I know about. You don't want
to talk about it? We didn't have a meeting this week, so I don't know if you do. I don't
think I know what's going on. You might, but I don't know. Are you, are you able to tell
me or? Nope. Wait, why? Not right now. What the hell? We're live on the show. Well, that's
stupid. But it's really cool. It's actually very exciting. It reminded me of, uh, you
know, um, a push that we did a really long time ago when we first started the company.
I was, I was actually talking about this in the call. I was like, this push that you guys
are doing while not the same feels similar to like the 700 series push that we did back
in the day. Like the amount of effort and the rallying behind it and like really, really
wanting to make sure that it's like on point and good and all that kind of stuff. And I
was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. That's all the information you get. It might
be entirely fine for me to say it. I just don't know and I'm not going to risk it. So
yeah, got it. It is what it is. Let's talk about this. CNG tunes over on YouTube asks,
what's with the whole sponsoring this or that portion of a video thing. What's that about?
What is that about? I don't know. I genuinely, I don't actually brand agencies have it in
their head that there could be some kind of liability, excuse me, or negative brand association
or something bad that could somehow be mitigated by changing the wording from they sponsored
the video to they sponsored only the portion of the video that is their talking points
and nothing else. Very cool. Personally, I find that wording kind of jarring and flow
breaking for the content. Oh, absolutely. And from my point of view and who knows, maybe
I'm about to lose a sponsor or two from my point of view, if you're not man enough to
sponsor the video, if you don't like the content or think it's safe enough to sponsor the video,
maybe you just shouldn't sponsor the video. The only thing I disagree with that is the
man enough phrase. I obviously I'm being toxic masculinity just to make my point, obviously,
at least I hope that was obvious. You can't be careful enough. That's fair. It's fair.
There's a, anyway, the point, the point is that if you, if you have such misgivings about
sponsoring a given channel, that you're afraid that their content is going to reflect so
poorly on your brand that you would hate for the whole video to be sponsored. No, only
this portion. Should you really be engaging with that channel? That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying. And it's also just like not true. You're sponsoring the video.
You are. Yeah. It's just obvious. Every time I thought it was like a regulatory change
or something that you had to do. Cause every time I hear it, I'm just like, what? No. Like
the only way it could make sense is if it was like section and they didn't actually
mean just their slice. They meant like the results portion of the video is brought to
you by whatever. Like if they actually contributed, maybe like a like testing apparatus or something
like that. Okay. Our results are brought to you by whatever. Yes. Yeah. Fine. That would
make sense. If the only part of the video that you sponsored is literally your ad, that's
not a video sponsorship. Yep. Yep. Yep. Maybe we just need to start calling it something
else. This part of the video is a message from this brand because it's not sponsored
by them. It's just the wrong word. Yeah. I don't know. So things are weird. So I've had
a lot of people ask me over the last little bit cause we did a couple spots recently that
were structured like that. And that is my response. I think it's silly, but I understand
in a lot of cases why the legal department is stepping in and saying, um, actually we
need to be super, super careful about this because it wouldn't be the first time that
a brand. So now I'm, now I'm putting on my reasonable hat. It wouldn't be the first time
that a brand got burned for sponsoring some, some content creator. Yes. And if they could
come in and say, well, um, actually we only sponsored just like our specific messaging.
We have nothing to do with the viewpoints of that particular person. Then, you know,
I guess there's some plausible deniability there, but I think that if the person's so
toxic that you're worried about that, then you probably just shouldn't sponsor them.
I would also raise a point, I guess I'm not arguing, but I'm raising a point that this
type of stuff will always change. It will always be in motion, uh, because agencies
exist and agencies need to feel like they actually matter and did something. So they're
going to make small unimportant changes and slap their stamp on it and be like, yeah,
I have to deal with enough agencies that I am not going to weigh in on the thing he just
said. Thank you agency. We value your business. Yep. Good job existing. All right. Let's
keep going. Um, no, Intel's doing some branding. Yeah. Let's do some messages. I don't know
here. We'll gloss over it. Intel rebrands laptop, Pentium and Celeron processors. Now
it will be, what will it be now? Flagship brands are now core Evo and V pro is the thing.
They will just be labeled Intel processor. So they're taking Pentium and Celeron names
off the new Intel processor branding will simplify our offer. Will it, will it simplify
your offerings? Because now there's an Intel processor that happens to be Intel core or
Intel Evo. And then there's an Intel processor that's just an Intel processor. You're right.
That does simplify things. Why did they ditch Intel inside? I don't know. Because that sounds
like Intel inside sounds like an insanely better version of this because you just slap
Intel inside on it. And then on the fine print, like under the laptop or whatever, you actually
put the real model number. Why would you want Intel processor to mean like to your low end?
That's even worse. I didn't even think about that. That's brutal. I don't know. I don't
know who would have done that. Um, that's crazy. Wow.
I honestly, okay, look, Intel or whoever else I will, I will contract for you. Okay. Look,
I'm not going to come up with the branding for you, but I will, I will contract. I'll
tell you what, a hundred bucks. That's my department. That's my rate to do a sanity
check on your new branding concept. I'll have a look at it for you. As long as it takes
me less than like five minutes, I'll look at it for you. You can, you can put your checks
in the mail, address them to chase Douglas. All right. He's got you. Okay. And I will
tell you if it is among the 5% stupidest things I've ever heard. Okay. That is the service
that I will offer you. And Intel could have avoided this if they had just paid a hundred
dollars to chase Douglas over here. Um, so that I could tell them that this is among
the 5% stupidest things I've ever heard. Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. Way to go. All right. Um,
you want to pick some merch messages, Luke? Sure. I've been trying to work through the,
the potential section, which is a new section on the merch message dashboard. Uh, but I'll
go to curated, I guess. Sure. Let's do it. Um, no, I haven't played Timberborn or the
wandering village. Me neither. Thanks for the suggestion though. Chris E yes. Um, any
plans for those PVC pipes you dug up? I think you, you ran a string through it, right? So
you could just decide later. Uh, yeah, yeah, I do have plans. That is where the pool house
will be. So if nothing else, I can run power from the mechanical room to the pool house
instead of digging a new trench. Yeah, that's actually really nice. Unfortunately, we still
have to get gas from somewhere else around the side of the house. So we still had to
trench all the way over to get gas cause there's not enough gas pressure in the mechanical
room to also do the pool heating, but it did save us a trench at least. So yeah, it was
totally worth it. And also we made a video about it cause the video sure as heck wasn't
about putting a PC in a box. It was about finding those conduits. A question for Linus
or Luke, how would you recommend getting internet to a detached garage, ethernet over power
or something better? Thanks for all that you do. Um, Ooh, ethernet over power could work
if they're both through the same panel. Dishes? Yeah, you could do, you could do a point to
point dish from someone like Ubiquiti. They have some pretty affordable stuff. Depends
if you have like trees in the way or whatever. Um, if not, you could also just get a direct
burial, like cat six cable, fricking bury it like micro trench it. You can get micro
trenching, um, uh, attachments for chainsaws. You can just direct bury it and it'll be good
for at least like 10 years or whatever, assuming it's decent direct burial cable. I know someone
who did a, a cheaper version of dish to dish, um, from their place to a detached garage
and it worked great and has been working great. Yeah, you can always, uh, you can always a
jury rig a dish to dish set up with like literally tin cans on like a regular consumer wifi rotor.
That's actually a thing. So you do two in, um, bridge mode and then you would, or is
it bridge mode? Like a wireless bridge or whatever. I forgot what it's called, but you
can set them up so that one is essentially a switch that you plug client devices in.
And then it's just got this wireless backbone back to the main network. So there's lots
of different ways. Um, I, I don't know if, uh, okay. So hi Linus and Luke, how would
you get your SO more tech savvy? I grew up with tech and I'm used to troubleshooting.
My GF on the other hand is not used to try to solve problems with tech on her own. She
seems like she is either afraid or has no clue in my opinion. Uh, then you should do
it for her. Yeah. That's your whole value add. No offense. Yeah. She doesn't have to
learn that as well. It's not your, it's not your looks, it's not your, you know, the money
you make, it's fixing her tech crap. If she doesn't find you handsome, she should at least
find you handy. Let's go. I'm kidding. Maybe you look great. But the point is that so what
not everybody's into everything, right? If she's interested in it, great. Uh, then just,
I don't know, start small and, and sure how to do some, some basic troubleshooting stuff,
create some basic problems, um, and, and try to kind of help guide the hand, but don't
solve it for her. But it sounds like she might not really be that interested. So just don't.
Yeah. All right. Have you ever considered a 3d printer roundup before? No. All right.
3d printers, internet security, VR, um, streaming, look up 3d printing nerd, dead, dead. He's
awesome dead, like absolute video performance, killer topics. And to be clear, if, if we're
running like a smaller channel that's focused on those things, or even just a smaller channel
in general, it would be fine to cover topics in those verticals. But at LTT scale, unless
we can get a million and a half to 3 million views on something, it doesn't make sense
anymore because it will harm our ability to get a million and a half or 3 million views
tomorrow. If we upload something that only gets 500,000 today, it's just the game that
we play. And you can expect over the next few years to see smaller channels that I intend
to keep smaller for that reason so that we can cover stuff that would destroy the LTT
channel that funds all of that other content that can't kill the golden goose. That's one
of the ways that people use floatplane actually just to self plug really quick is they put
stuff on floatplane that they know people will like a lot, but they know those people
that will like it a lot are a relatively small subset of their users and it would kill their
YouTube channel. But those users do really want that content. It's just like, how do
I make it worth it to make this content when that subset of users isn't big enough to fuel
an entire YouTube channel? Well, floatplane can fit that role.
Hello, have you considered testing second monitor effects on your PC? What having a
YouTube video does to your games frame rate or that type of stuff is honestly quite hard,
but the labs might be able to figure something out.
Yeah, I think that would be that would be definitely like a cool thing to investigate.
Does multi monitor like tank your FPS? I know there was a bug a while back where I forget
if it was Nvidia or AMD, but they had like super high power consumption. If you had two
monitors plugged in and like it was totally fine if you had only one, but that's the sort
of thing that I don't think we would test regularly. We would kind of, you know, look
into it and kind of go, Oh, okay. Is there anything interesting here? And then if there
isn't, I think that might just be the end of it. We'd just say, okay, yeah, there's
nothing interesting. No article, no nothing. Cause it's either, it's either a problem or
it's not really news. Have you ever considered making effectively
like one of those really short versions of lanyards? No, this, this person said wrist
size lanyard, but I've seen them before. They're just little short lanyards. No, I'd never
considered that at all. Yeah. I think people like it more for like actually attaching to
like a belt loop or something and letting it hang out. Do you really want your keys
hanging out though? I don't. Yeah, you shouldn't, but I think you might attach it and then put
it in your pocket. Oh, I see. That's another option. Huh? It makes it easy to pull out
other stuff like that. I don't know. Just an idea. I've definitely seen them before.
Should we have Chase read a couple of merch messages? I realized he's our producer today,
but we've had, hardly had him do anything. You've been reading all of them. Yeah. I'm
sorry. You can't get a word in. Nah, it's all good. All right. I'm going to go up to
potentials and keep working on that. Okay. And I'll answer the curated ones here. I bought
a nothing phone one on release day. I noticed a defect on the first day made a support ticket
after a week. I got a return label from them. I sent it back for a refund. I've heard nothing
since July 28. Well, the name's appropriate. Yeah. What is your worst, uh, tech purchasing
experience? Oh man. There was that GPU that was completely mislabeled. I bought from Sapphire
back in the day. Um, and worst tech purchasing experience. I probably shouldn't count anything
to do with an ISP. Everyone knows that they're awful, you know, basically universally, um,
worst tech purchase experience. Yeah. Probably that like falsely advertised GPU from Sapphire
way, way, way back like in the, in the two thousands. It's tough for me because I don't,
I don't, um, have to buy tech as often anymore. And even when I did, I tended to research
it pretty thoroughly. Like that's my passion. Right? So, Hmm. Oh, Oh yeah. The, the dash
cams I bought. That was terrible. I bought two of them and neither of them worked. Not
even for a moment. So that sucked. And that inspired that dash cam video we did recently.
There you go. All right. I got one. Do you have a terrible one? Are you busy on a, I
didn't hear the question. Your worst tech purchasing experience. Oh, I think they've
all been pretty good. Yeah. We do our research. That's sort of why we're sitting in these
chairs at this point. If we didn't, then you shouldn't listen to us. Yeah. Is that, was
your answer similar? I came up with a couple of bad things. I bought some dash cams that
ended up just being manufactured. That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. But that's like,
that's just, you're walking into a minefield dash cams is crazy. I, I like started trying
to do research on that years ago and just abandoned it. And I'm just excited for ours
and I'm just going to probably buy whatever one like they say is good. I still had an
NCIX gift card when they went under. So that's a pretty terrible tech purchase. I don't even
know how much was on it. It could have been a lot. I have no idea. No one can even check
unless I could get my hands on like the old NCIX servers that got found after the fact.
And that was a whole, that was a whole data privacy security problem. Next question for
you from Adam K. Hey Linus, any updates on the wag hoodie? Also trying to apply a discount
code, a failed one. Like if you try honey, have an S61 removes the merch message option,
at least in Firefox, we can probably get that fixed. Well, don't fail to type in the discount
code. Why are you trying to get discounts? Do you not want to support the channel? I
think he was mainly asking about the wag hoodie though. Yeah. I'm just going to, I'm going
to bring up that bug might not exist in the new theme. We've been focusing on the new
theme. This is hilarious. Yeah. Jake's cat Arlo in the wag hoodie. He actually put, he
actually put a dog hoodie on his cat. He's got a big cat. Surprisingly Arlo's not even
that pissed off. Yeah. Yeah. I, so I can't really show this to you guys easily, but we
are, we are getting samples in, so like size run samples, which means it's, it's months
away, not quarters away at the very least. Cool. Noah J says needed a new water bottle
for a while now. This is just what the doctor ordered. We all know the doctor told you to
drink more water. Companies aren't our friends, but has there ever been a company brand game
that you've been a shameless fan boy or shill for? Shameless fan boy. I don't know if I'd
say shameless. I've been a fan boy, but I've also worn my shame. I'm a bit of a Nintendo
fan boy. I just kind of buy like if a switch two comes out, I'll get a switch too. But
like I, I also, do you feel shame though? Yeah, I know you do. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Like I, I think you could point at my love of Noctua and call that like fan boy or shameless
or whatever, but like it's more of like a respect. Yeah. I respect their approach to
product engineering at that. And that approach has led to my trust in them being well-founded.
It's not like fanaticism. It's just, I feel like I either have that or I feel shame about
it. I don't necessarily, I think I'm pretty realistic with like, yeah, I don't know. Shameless
fan boy. I mean, I, a bunch of people are saying EVGA. Yeah. But like he just said,
it's founded. I have direct experience with this. So I don't know. Okay. Colbar hammer.
I don't think he's a fan. Yeah. I don't know. Intel fan boy. No. See that's a funny thing
man. I get accused of being a fanboy of Intel all the time. I literally was the teenager
with the UV reactive green AMD inside circle logo sticker in my fricking case. Like I,
I grew up team green and only because they made the better processors at the time. First
processor that I purchased was AMD. So that's not even fan. That's just buying the good
one that is a good one. It's just that. I don't think that's the way either of us shop.
So I don't, I think we're both in the same camp there. Yeah. I mean like I love, okay.
People are talking about LG. Like I love OLED, love OLED displays. And I will, I will tolerate
some of their problems for the benefits, but that's not a tech. That's a technology company.
I'm a fan of the performance. I'm always a fan of performance. Yeah. Oh, sorry. People
are like team green. Sorry. AMD used to have a green logo. Not Nvidia. I said team green
for AMD. AMD is team red now. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. I repeatedly called
blizzard CEO or rat. Yeah. I think you've called them a lot worse. Not on the WAN show.
That's true. EA sports. No, no. I think people are just pulling out stuff they know is not
true at this point. Uh, next question here from I think, uh, Joe Sue, uh, for Linus as
a lifelong gamer and now toddler dad, I'm curious to know what your proudest gamer dad
moment is. Oh, I mean, it was pretty fun having my eldest son, um, like carry us in Minecraft.
Yeah. That was pretty cool. He can also hang with us in tower fall, which is surprising
because neither, neither Luke nor I are like crappy side scroller players. Yeah. Like we're
not just like new old man. Never touched a controller when it comes to 2d side scrollers
and he won some rounds like for real beat us. So that's pretty cool. Uh, and I could
also feel the energy in the room change when he won his first round as Linus and I buckled
down. Yeah. We were like, we may not allow that to happen. And he didn't win again for
a bit. Yeah. But then he did win again. Yeah, he did. So, um, and yeah, I don't know. It's
been, I guess it's just been good. It's, it's less like proud. I'm not proud of kids for
like enjoying video games. They're, it's like being proud of them for getting addicted to
crack. Like they're designed to, they're, they're, they're designed to be addictive.
Yeah. You like the addictive thing. Yeah, exactly. Right. But I'm definitely, I'm definitely,
uh, you know, I enjoy playing with them. It's fun. I'm glad that we can connect over that.
I'm sure watching, uh, watching your kids be adaptive and be fairly naturally skillful
and solving problems. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Minecraft is a good game to enjoy if you're
a game enjoyer. Yes. I, they, they are allowed to play my Minecraft mostly when they want
to. So that's, um, well within their daily like screen time limits. Cause that's the
thing parents do now. Yeah. Um, so next question one from Joshua B and I've noticed a few questions
about this. Uh, they asked, you've mentioned to make plans for a tech bag, uh, plans to
make a tech bag for the backpack. Have you thought about making something into a can
do like camera focus? I think there's just been a few questions on the direction of like
another bag. Yes. We have talked about doing a camera focused insert for the backpack,
but I think that right now it's a lower priority than the tech pouch, which is really designed
for like all your accessories and like USB drives and maybe like, you know, parasite
cutters, little things like that and a smaller version of the backpack. And we just don't
have the bandwidth to tackle a camera focused insert just yet. If we did, we'd want to make
sure that it was something that was really adding a choice that's not already available.
You pointed out that you don't necessarily want a full on camera backpack, but you want
to carry a camera sometimes. Well, I would like that insert to be able to come out and
like be a sling or something like that. Like I'd want it to be cool. Um, and we just, we
don't have the, we don't have the time right now to work on it. Uh, next question from
Benjamin asks, does LTT slash labs have any plans to create software? Question moved on
me, create software slash tools that take a deep dive into the difference in performance
between hardware. Um, in my opinion, it would be valuable to see an in-house benchmark that
we can measure performance between different types of tasks. Already working on stuff right
now. We're, we're creating, uh, like hooks for, um, crap, what are they called? Harnesses
for a, for a system that integrates other benchmarks, but we have talked about how we
could do our own different ways of doing our own. Uh, but right now it's, it's all about
harnesses. Yeah. Yep. Um, we have, Oh, is the second, is the, the, the, the person signed.
Oh, uh, yeah, actually. Okay. I guess that was going to be in the meeting, but yeah.
Okay. We now have not one, but two people who have deep experience in machine vision.
Um, and machine vision is going to be really, really important going forward as it becomes
more and more difficult to objectively empirically measure the performance of a GPU just by FPS
alone. A dynamic, uh, dynamic image quality is becoming critical to being able to run
games at all. Um, so whether it's through upscaling technology or dynamically changing,
uh, like texture quality or whatever else it is, and that's going to be a huge focus
for us is building out benchmarks. It's already a thing in mobile, right? Building out benchmarks
that can monitor changes in image quality alongside changes in frame rate so that we
can better evaluate the relative performance of different hardware. Uh, squid says, Hey,
Hey, LTT, uh, please make a 40 ounce with a handle. It might need, uh, other than that,
there's a question for Linus, especially because of all the things he said on LT before, what's
your favorite pony? Really important one here. Oh, favorite pony. Um, can't really see it
so well. I can use my face as a background and then you can see it better, but right
there, there is a handle. It's part of the, it's part of the lid. Yeah, I'd say I'm an
Applejack boy. Serial. Oh, okay. I was like, did I miss a topic or something like what
just happened? Okay, I get it. Sure. Charles says, I've seen so many tech channels have
some bizarre issue that was caused by a bad PCIE riser cable. I myself also had issues
with one. What can a shopper look for in a riser cable to avoid headaches? What a great
question for the lab. Uh, all you can look for is like if you trust the brand to send
you a new one, if you get a bad one, that's all I can really tell you. Okay. Chase, I
think we figured something out. What? I think you and I have been fighting each other the
entire time. Okay. I think I kind of noticed that partway through. I think I keep putting
incoming into pending and then you keep moving out and I'm like, did I read that one already?
I think we've done that with the same message like a lot of times. Okay. Okay. We know now.
Good. No, it's okay. You boys all right? Well, I'm not going to bother explaining it, but
yeah, David N asks, uh, I'm getting back into badminton after a long break. Any recommendations
for quality rackets around 50 us dollars? Get a used one. As long as you get something
that's not a steel or aluminum frame, as long as it's actually like a carbon style frame.
If it's been a long time, just yeah, don't spend a ton of money, right? Get strings,
spend $30 and pay 20 bucks to get new strings on it. Grab a grip for a few bucks. That's
going to be more important than the racket. As long as you don't get a steel or aluminum
frame, that's going to really, really hurt your game. Uh, speaking of badminton, if there's
any local coaches in the Vancouver area that are looking to pick up some shifts, I don't
know, DM me on the forum or something like that because, um, Oh, I know some, I know
some people who want to get some badminton coaching, including him. Um, and it would
be, it would be cool if we could, uh, if we could find someone who wants to do that. All
right. Uh, Arthur says, I have a weird question for Luke. What? Oh, are the invoice numbers
for float plane sequential? I saw this earlier. Uh, I actually think maybe so they have invoice
45 and I thought that was pretty cool. Uh, if you have invoice 45, all I'll say is that
was really early. I think at some point in time we might've realized it was sequential
and then wanted to stop doing that. Yeah. Cause that's pretty bad. Yeah. So I think
we changed it eventually, but having 45 probably means that was actually the 45th. Um, and
then yeah, I think we changed it down the line. That's pretty cool. Kira asks any update
on the stealth desk pad and what do you think is the most technologically excite? Oh, what
do you think is most technologically exciting for data science in the coming years? I mean,
I don't think other than, you know, just the, the leaps and bounds with which machine learning
is advancing right now. I don't think there's anything, uh, past that horizon that I'm looking
to at the moment as for stealth desk pad, it'll come when it comes. I, we're actually
sending out a message to wave one backpack purchasers that our shipment, which was supposed
to arrive in, uh, we gave ourselves three weeks from when all backpacks for each wave
were supposed to be here to when we would have them shipped out and wave one is supposed
to be shipped out by September 20th. Two thirds of our wave one backpacks are not here yet
and will not be here by the 20th. So they are over three weeks late. So we're sending
out a message to everyone saying, Hey, here's all the information we have. This is where
we started. Um, this is where they're estimating right now. It could slip again. There's nothing
we can do to control this. We are just helpless leaves being blown around by the wind at this
point. Uh, Sam D asks, love the show. Who are your favorite musicians? I mean, you know,
love me some, some backstreet boys, uh, just love the bare naked ladies a lot. Honestly,
I don't really like fan out over individual musicians so much. So it's just kinda, it's
gonna kind of depend on who happens to make a lot of songs. I like, uh, you know, all
these down to listen to some T Swift. Let me, let me, let me see. I don't know. Luke's
super into sea shanties. I know that got into his car and well it, it auto played. Okay.
So my birds really, really like music that is mostly just people singing. Um, so if you
want to accomplish that sea shanties are pretty good. And when I figured that out, cause my,
my previous bird did not, he was not into that. He liked, he liked, uh, other stuff.
Um, but they, they seem to like this. So I played them the Assassin's Creed four sea
shanties thing, and then they've just been like obsessed with it ever since. If I ever
want to make them calm down, I just play that playlist and they're immediately like, Oh,
everything's okay now. They like, it's, it's, it's amazing. Um, but no, I've been listening
to, um, mostly odd future and the chats. Cool. Actually very on, on two very different spectrums,
but I've been, I've been an enjoyer of those living, but I feel the same way. It's just
kinda like whatever I'm listening to at the time, I don't necessarily follow anything
too, too closely. Garrett B, have you looked at working with Sliger on a rack Mount PC
case like the one in your house? Yes, I will confirm that. Uh, we haven't really made any
progress at this point. They are working on some really cool rack Mount gaming cases right
now though that honestly could just make it so that I don't bother doing one because they
seem pretty good. It seemed like they will serve that need pretty darn well. In fact,
I think we have review samples inbound slaggers, a cool company. Do you want to read some chase
or you caught up? Yay. We should be good. Uh, let's see here. Uh, from next one from
brand B, uh, Linus as a father of two, three months and one and a half years old. How do
you balance work life, family time and your own personal time projects and passions. Luke
is a software developer. I struggle with imposter syndrome a lot. Have you dealt with that?
So how do you combat it? It's gonna be like an entire show. Um, I mean prioritize that.
That's the big one. Whatever's most important. Do it first. It's, it really is that simple.
A lot of the time too tired. Do it anyway. That's how, that's how you make sure you don't
have regrets. Uh, next question from Zach K and I, we'll just ignore my section. Oh,
I'm so sorry. I forgot. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to fight with the potential
and incoming and now we're going to fight here too. Um, no, I, I just sparring match
chase versus Luke. I think I think with, uh, with computer science stuff, you, you spend
all your time trying to deal with like bugs and solving problems and, and fixing things
that don't make any sense. So that's going to happen. It's just something you got to
deal with. Um, how you deal with it. I don't know if you spend any amount of time listening
to other developers. You're going to hear that they're dealing with the same thing.
So just try to keep learning, try to keep on top of it. You're not alone. Yeah. Whatever.
Uh, actual next question now from the second. No, it was my bad. It's my bad. Um, so any
plans for different screwdriver colors? I think this has been answered on Twitter. I
don't know if it was by you or Nick, but there, I would love to do other colors. I will say
that so far I haven't seen any ideas in public that we hadn't already had internally. Um,
however, it's not as simple as just taking different plastic dye, mixing it in with the
triax chips and shooting it because the dyes are also plastic. They can affect the shrinkage
ratio of the finished parts, which can affect the fit and finish and can affect the durability
of the finished driver. So every single color will need to be validated individually and
with each other in order for us to do different color ways of the driver. Right now, our focus
is on shipping out the 80 plus thousand drivers that people have ordered. And once we are
well on our way, we will think about, we will look at the R and D that is necessary for
doing additional colors. I wish it was as easy as that because we would have launched
with like a dozen colors. I mean, look at what we do with water bottles where it really
is as simple as just putting different ink on the side of the bottle. Yeah. Heck yeah.
Let's go. Unfortunately when it comes to plastics, it's just not that simple. And it's hard to
like test things over long periods of time. What does someone's hand oils do over the
course of two years? It's like, that's tough. It's hard to figure out. All right. Next question
from Jackson D. Hey Linus, I'll be a first dad soon. Any advice for raising a tech savvy
kid while not making them tech dependent? I mean, yeah, you got to lead by example,
right? So they're going to be so curious about everything you do. The second you do something,
they're going to want to do it. So don't do anything in front of them that you wouldn't
want them to do. And, um, and just, you know, be there to answer their questions. I mean,
at the end of the day, they're gonna, they're gonna leave the nest at some point. They're
going to make their own decisions, but just try and be a good example for as long as you
have. It's the best I can really give you. Uh, next question, Drew E. I've been thinking
about treating myself to a nice screwdriver, but my tech is underwater in rivers. I know
it voids the warranty, but would the screwdriver survive being used underwater sometimes? I
don't see why not. There's nothing about it that, um, like you'd get a little bit of rust
on the bits for sure. That's, that's normal. What about the ratchet though? Uh, well, no,
the ratchet is zinc and Delrin if it's fresh water. So, um, did he say it's fresh water?
Yeah. He said rivers. Oh, right. Yep. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I don't, I don't know what kind
of coverage you might get if you, you know, tell us, Hey, yeah, it's full of shmoo because
I was in a river and shmoo grew up. But if you were to get it wet once in a while, I
don't think that would necessarily be the end of the world. Yeah. Grease in the ratchet
someone brought up. Uh, yeah, but the grease in the ratchet, again, it's fresh water. Um,
it is not water soluble grease. I don't know. Maybe it would move it around. Not sure. Yeah.
Shouldn't much it's cold water, which is less likely to carry away grease. So it is not
for that. Not for that, but it seems like it might do. Okay. It might do. Okay. Yeah.
Last question from Jason. What are you guys more excited for 4,000 series or AMD 7,000
series? Uh, and do you think that it will come, who will, who will come out on top,
uh, in performance this gen? Uh, well, if it's anything like the trend, yeah, it's going
to be a video again. Then again, I don't know. I saw rumors that 7,000 series is supposed
to be like Chiplets AMD Chipleted Intel, and it's taken years for them to come back from
it. So I don't know. And AMD's drivers have apparently gotten a lot better. I mean, their
video encoding has apparently gotten a lot better. These are all things I need the lab
to verify for me, but Hey, could I put a radio on GPU in my personal rig for the first time
in like over 10 years? Pretty sweet. I'm pretty cool. I'm pretty down. Let's go. Next question
from Matthew asks straw lid win. I don't know. Okay. It's a quick one. Um, okay. Next question.
Waiting for the big Chungus Linus, uh, waiting for the big waiting for the big Chungus Linus.
Do you have a timeline for your wire management products and Luke, what is your favorite product
from the LTT store? Oh, uh, yeah, fair enough. And the wire management products. No, I don't
have a timeline for them yet next year though. Not this year. I literally wear LTT underwear
every single day. Me too. Yep. I'm always wearing at least some amount of merch. Nice.
Um, next question from anonymous Linus. Uh, what is your prediction on the availability
and price of the 4,000 series cars at launch? Trying to see if it's worth waiting or getting
one now or 3000 series. It's impossible for me to know. I mean, we talked about this earlier
in the show. Nvidia doesn't even tell their board partners what the pricing of the cards
is going to be. So I, I, I, I don't have a, I don't have a crystal ball. I, I just don't
know. I'm sorry. David says, Hey Linus, do you know why power suppliers, um, or power
supply manufacturers don't have a standardization for cables? Um, see sonic cables on an EVGA
power supply, uh, maybe a video showing what would happen or explaining why no standard.
Yeah. The reason that they don't have a standardization for cables is that in the early days, everyone
was just doing their own thing, developing modular cabling systems internally and everyone
took a slightly different approach and it's not been worth it to change and create incompatibility
within their own product lines. So there's no standard. All right. Kyle J says, happy
Friday. My brother, Joe and I love discussing videos each week. Question for all of you.
If time is allowed, is there a, any new hobby that you would like to get into? I've been
painting miniatures while watching WAN show and was wondering if something has caught
your guy's eye recently. I know he wants to get into like ironworking. Yeah. Um, I actually
like really do. My biggest problem right now is, is space and availability. I'm doing a
jewelry making workshop with the wife, so we're going to make rings, which I thought
was pretty cool. That is pretty cool. I actually did it back in high school, so it might be
a bit of a refresher for me, but I don't think she's ever done it. My mom did a silversmithing
thing back in the day and she thought it was really cool. Yeah. It's super fun. Yeah. I
really want to get into blacksmithing. It's just, it's, it's tough. Someone says join
in makerspace. Yeah. I've been thinking about a lot of my time over the last little bit
has been taken up, um, by like trying to be less out of shape and stuff. Um, and it's
been feeling a lot better. I've been like sleeping way better and stuff like that. So
I'm going to continue focusing on that for a bit. But my next, um, one of my things,
this is a weird little personal thing, but one of my things when I sort of decided I
wasn't going to have kids was that I would have to keep doing stuff. Um, so like I took
a course on learning how to weld. Um, I went and got, uh, certifications to go diving.
I'm like, keep trying to do stuff like that right now. I'm taking a temporary hiatus to
get back into shape. And then my next plan is blacksmithing. Um, and so far I've really
enjoyed everything that I've tried to do and I want to keep doing it. I'm excited. So I
try to, I try to do one thing every year. That's kind of my deal. Uh, ALC 54 40. What
are you talking about? There's a comment in the float plane chat. Sorry. I'm super excited.
I was concerned about the remake final fantasy seven and six are probably my two favorite
games, but they killed it. Do you, Oh, do you mean the final fantasy seven remake was
really good. I thought you were talking about like a final fantasy six remake and they killed
it cause like final fantasy six, like, Oh, love it anyway. Okay. Nevermind. Okay. Sorry.
Carry on. All right. Uh, next super quick question from Joe H star Wars, star track
or stargate. Can I just say, I mean, honestly, I liked the star track reboots a lot better
than anything that Lucasfilm has done since Lucas stopped being involved. And honestly,
for a while before Lucas stopped being involved, I like the universe creation of star Wars
the most. Um, yeah, but a lot of it got like retconned anyway, but as far as what of it
I, yeah, but I just ignore that. Um, head can, it's awesome. Uh, but as far as what
I have seen not becoming tainted, stargate was legit. I used to watch stargate all the
time growing up because it was like one of the few shows that are the three channels
that we had on TV would, would actually show Teal is a freaking boss. And the fact that
the, the, the person that used to act, uh, the actor for Teal does the voice acting for
God of war, which I used to hate the God of war games. I mean, I hate them. I was not
interested in the God of war games. And then the remake was amazing. And the new remake
looks like it's going to be amazing. And it's cool that he's a part of it. I don't know.
Yeah. Cool. Firefly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Never going to be over it. It wasn't included
in the three Clayton asks with the GPU market dropping back down to reasonable levels. Would
you recommend upgrading from a 10 80 TI or do you feel it's still holds up 10 80 is beast.
Yeah. We actually were going to do a video like how does the 10 80 TI hold up today?
And then I think like hardware unboxed uploaded it like the day after we pitched it. Okay.
Well they did a good job, so whatever. We won't do that video. Um, and it all depends
on you. If it isn't enough performance for you, then do or don't upgrade, right? Like
I can't, I can't tell you what to do. Uh, cyber blade 42 wanted to get a seasonic power
supply based on all the praise you give them. However, Canada computers has almost all models
out of stock besides a thousand Watts. And I'm not a fan of new egg, any other brand
recommendations. I mean, Hey, EVGA could probably use the help at the moment and they have very
solid power supplies. So why don't you check out EVGA offerings? Uh, Mark R ever since
I saw your old home office set up, I've been running my PC in another room. What method
is best KVM over IP, uh, long cables, Thunderbolt, which is just long cables. So yeah, long,
long cables. Just go long, long, proper cables in my humble opinion, uh, anonymous. Do you
have trouble attracting talent to work at LMG because of the Vancouver area is prohibitively
expensive real estate prices. The thing he's doing our internal minimum wage is so much
higher than the BC minimum wage just because if we will not just because we actually go
higher than what is absolutely necessary, but partially because it would be impossible
for our people to like live here and work here. Otherwise, how would chase afford to
live? How could he eat and look at him. He needs the food. I'm just going to keep living
in my mom's basement. So are you still, no, uh, I moved out and then I moved back and
then I'm moving again at some point. So it's, it's all over the place. Sometimes it do be
like that. Yeah. Um, yeah, I have straight up just flat faced, had a lot of people tell
me that like they would have considered moving local if we were basically anywhere other
than where we are. Um, so it is what it is. There's a lot of other benefits of BC. That's
one of the reasons why the housing is so expensive. It's pretty cool to live here, but yup. It,
uh, if you want not a massive portion of your paychecks, pretty much no matter how much
you make going towards housing. Uh, I hope it improves. Um, there's a, there's a dip
that we're going through right now and I hope it's a big one even. And this is with being
substantially invested in Vancouver real estate. I'm rooting for it. Let's see a crash. Yeah.
Like I want everyone who works here to be able to afford a house. And honestly the rate
at which housing prices are increasing is greater than the rate at which our like revenues
are increasing. Like it's ridiculous. It's crazy. Depending on the class of, depending
on the area you're looking at, depending on the class of, of, of housing or class of building
rather. Um, like it's, it's absurd. There have been times when, yeah, we cannot actually
grow fast enough to keep up with the rate of the rate of Vancouver property price increases.
It's absurd. Uh, people who like LMG apartment building, like I said, even if I couldn't
even right. And besides, that's not the goal. The goal would be for people to company housing.
Yeah. Own their property. Yeah, exactly. So what do we start like paying people and food
and board? No, that's really not how it works. It was fun for a bit though. Yeah. Well, I
think it was, I think it was actually my idea. I don't think that counts. I don't think it
counts if it's my idea. Uh, next question. I don't know if it was my idea, but I think
the law doesn't care whose idea it was. Yeah, that's probably fair. Sorry about that. Uh,
next question from Lucas Jade. Did they talk about why Apple dropped in video? Uh, no,
I actually had in that, uh, in that video script that I talked about earlier, I had
a list of times that Nvidia was the, um, and I had that in there, but frankly, Apple and
Nvidia are both seemingly equally arrogant. And I suspect that that falling out was from
both sides. But what happened was Nvidia had their GPU's and a bunch of Apple Mac books
that failed because the, the bumps for the, for the BGA, uh, GPU's cracked and loosened
over time causing the, the Mac books to fail and Apple blamed Nvidia, Nvidia blamed Apple.
And I don't think they ever really settled it to the satisfaction of both of them. And
they have never worked again since worked together again, since last curated message
for the moment, uh, anonymous says, thanks for all the hard work LTT team. Uh, how has
the model of pulling your user base on the forum for advertisement partners worked out
so far? Um, well, we're not really pulling for advertising partners. It's more, we're
just getting community feedback to help us avoid any pitfalls that are going to make
us look bad, right? Like we, we do our due diligence, but we can't, you know, we can't
see everything. Like if a particular brand has terrible customer service in Europe, for
example, that's not something we can easily evaluate. So it's really good for us to get
feedback from our community. For those of you who don't know on linustechtips.com forum,
there's a section where people can talk about our brand partners and, uh, where we can pass
that feedback along to our brand partners and help make sure that they are supporting
our community properly so that our community will keep trusting the partners that we continue
to work with because it's in everybody's best interest for you guys to be able to trust
anyone who's partnered with us. Um, it makes our sponsor spots more valuable if our conversion
is higher and our conversion will not be high if we just chill garbage that sucks. So another
question from Brian are, uh, all black screwdriver fan here. Uh, were you surprised by the breakdown
of the screwdriver shaft choices? Yeah, I was a little surprised. I thought all black
would be more popular than black and orange. Um, but black and orange ended up being, being
the winner. And I guess for like higher visibility, Jake called it like, like many, many, many
months, probably a year before we actually made it to release. Um, I mean, I just, I
just liked the look of the all black one. I was like, Oh, this looks sick. But he's
like, how am I going to find it? I mean, I never have trouble finding my screwdrivers
in my back pocket. I mean, not the second now it's in my LTT backpack. Oh wow. And it's
sleeve. That's why he gets paid the big bucks. But then I also have an orange one right now.
Um, so I don't know. Which matches the backpack. Get them both. Yeah. Let's go lttstore.com
and a new 64 ounce. Yeah, exactly. That doesn't fit in the backpack. I mean it does, but not
in the predefined water bottle holder. Yeah. I think that's it for merchant messages. Thank
you for tuning into the land show. We will see you again next week. Oh, right. Same bad
time. Same bad channel. Bye. Oh, wait. Oh, that works. That works. Oh wow. The rest of
the merge messages just kind of go there. That's cool. I don't think that's keyed up.
Oh, Oh, all right. Well, I've got one more that came in that I should just, I'll, yeah,
I'll, I'll address this cause I was actually going to talk about it. I just heard from
a show brought to you by Kioskia Squarespace and Secret Lab. Joe N asks, any other collabs
coming up? And the answer is yes. I actually just heard from Nico from Corridor Digital
while we were live. He says, just watch the final edit of redacted video. Your segment
is excellent and an awesome moment in the middle of the video. So you can find me over
on Corridor Digital sometime whenever they release that. Cool. I don't know when. Um,
so I can archive that one. Oh my goodness. Guys, you gotta stop. You gotta stop sending,
you gotta stop sending merge messages in at the last second. I'm sorry. I can't, I can't
look at these ones. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to end the show. Bye again.