Alright, and wibby-wobby-woo, we are live with only a few technical difficulties this week.
Yes, my friends, only a few.
But, we moved the WAN Show logo, it is no longer over top of Luke's head, now it is over top of mine.
It's not over your head. Okay. It's, it's, uh, okay.
Well, I'm short. Are you sitting up taller than usual?
No, I'm not.
Usually you lower your chair, so we're about the same height.
I actually never lower my chair. You lower my chair.
Not that I'm asking you to go ahead and do that now, but, you know.
That's, that's as low as it can go.
I'm sorry.
God, I hate you.
Uh, so welcome to the WAN Show, guys. We've got a great show ahead of us today, I hope.
And, uh, we've actually had, honestly, actually, okay, we probably do have a great show ahead of us,
because this has been one of those weeks where I'm averaging about four hours of sleep a night.
Um, because I have been working my butt off on a couple of things to just kind of kick ass
and get us ahead of the 8-Ball for the first time since we've moved in.
Like, we actually had some content buffered when we started moving.
And then, of course, we used it all.
Like, we, we, we burned that so hard when we moved.
And then, since then, I don't know if any of you guys have ever moved before, but it's horrible.
It's not like you move for three days and then you kind of go,
Oh, yeah, I'm gonna relax on the front porch with my glass of, like, lemonade and my, you know...
I like the lemonade choice.
Yeah, the lemonade and I got, like, my neighbor boy mowing the lawn and it's, like, whatever.
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not like that.
So we have been moving since we moved.
We're still, yeah, there's still a lot of stuff being sorted out.
There's still a lot of stuff, but there's a lot that's taken care of
and it's gotten to the point where this week I was able to only do a few moving things.
I was able to do all the videos that I normally need to do and get two full extra LTTs shot.
So stay tuned because they're actually both good.
Dell sent us a ruggedized tablet that is rated for being dropped almost a meter while in operation.
Not to mention that it has a capacitive touch screen that operates with water on it.
So that's cool.
Wait, we're supposed to do the intro.
Chipgate will be a thing that we'll talk about.
Also, Tesla cars are able to auto drive as of yesterday.
The SCARP laser razor got pulled off Kickstarter
and Bell is being fined huge amounts of money for faking app reviews on the App Store.
We should probably roll the intro.
The worst thing about that is that in the context of how much money Bell makes
selling you their service and their apps, it's really just pennies.
But that's a whole other conversation which I guess we should do after the intro.
It might be more than one part.
Heavens!
A Linus Tech Tips video that's multi-part?
This one, I don't think I would have a choice.
I think if you put it in one video, even if it was a pretty long video, it would be just way too hard to watch.
You've seen part of the problems that I have to solve already.
Yes, I have.
And I have to document doing all of that.
Right.
And there's more that I probably haven't told you about yet.
Okay.
So basically Luke has a really cool build blog that he's working on.
Actually it is going to be a crazy awesome sort of period of time here for video content.
Starting this weekend, YouTube is getting the Scrapyard Wars Season 3 premiere.
Right.
Tomorrow night.
Vessel is getting episode 2.
YouTube is getting the dual-headed gaming machine build.
Oh my god.
Did you watch it?
That thing is so cool.
Yeah.
So we've got a single box, two gamers playing a battlefront on it at the same time.
I just finished shooting my video of the X34 Predator LCD.
So that's Acer's 34-inch curved ultrawide G-Sync 100Hz monitor.
It's freaking bananas.
I just finished filming that Dell ruggedized tablet that you can like kick around and like...
Get this.
Not just waterproof.
Or water...
Well, nothing is waterproof.
Yeah, yeah.
Not just water resistant like rain, but jets of water from any direction.
That's the ingress protection rating on this thing.
I am so stoked to put it through the paces.
That's super cool.
To be fair though, jets of water.
Would you count a waterfall as a jet of water?
I would.
Because it has weight to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So my Z3 was held under a waterfall screen up recording with the camera for like five
minutes.
Why?
Because you could?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it worked fine.
So like that rating means it can probably take even more than that.
So I was planning to pull out those like Soaker Blaster things that we have and just like
wreck it.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So I'm pretty excited for that.
Right.
I guess we should do topics?
Like what was I talking about before the intro?
I'm sorry.
I'm super sleep deprived.
We should just do like the week in recap.
Right.
So we are finally going to be back ahead in terms of the content, which means we're not
like running around like let me find an example.
You know, sometimes sometimes people call us out on this and we don't generally sort
of acknowledge it.
But come on guys.
It's not like we're not aware that once in a while a piece of content is something that
we were kind of sitting around going.
What's the fastest thing we can do?
It's 1 p.m.
We don't have a video started yet for tonight.
What can we throw together?
So like the server room updates video took forever.
It took way longer than it was supposed to.
So recycling your electronics was one that I've kind of had in my mind for the better
part of a year.
But the original plan was to do it as like a music video or something.
Yeah.
So that got kicked in the head and that became just a normal LTT release, which is super
easy, which was which was easy.
But you know what's interesting and important, but easy.
You know, it's really funny about that video.
It really didn't do well on release.
But over time, it's actually still so a week after its release, more than a week after
its release, it's still holding steady at about 4000 views a day.
That is very, very strong.
So in the long term, that video may actually do really well, which is good.
Sometimes I think some of our most innovative ideas have come about when we just are kind
of forced to do something fast like that video, the best type of CPU cooler final answer that
has 1.27 million views.
You also named it very clickbaity.
That's probably one of our like most clickbaity videos ever.
And it's not even isn't it not even the final answer or don't even the final answer is.
It depends.
Isn't that what you do?
Well, that is that is a thing I do.
Yes.
No, that's bullshit.
No, but that is the answer.
The final answer is that you don't have an answer.
It's like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Okay, so Linus final answer here.
No, I'm gonna I'll screen I'll screen share this with you guys, because this is a thing
I've done.
So best type of CPU cooler.
The final answer.
It depends.
Okay.
Core i7 versus Xeon, which is better?
Final answer.
It depends.
AMD versus Intel.
Final answer.
I remember that one.
It depends.
Yeah.
Sometimes AMD versus Nvidia.
Final answer.
Sometimes that's the answer.
The answer is how old are those videos?
We should just redo that.
There's a lot of fanboy hate going around right now.
Five, five years ago was the Intel versus AMD one.
We could totally redo that because that was on the NCIX Tech Tips channel anyway.
But the thing is that people don't understand about this fanboy crap.
Is that it's not that simple.
People are like, don't Nvidia cards run hot?
Sometimes.
Some cards.
Yeah, 480 was a furnace in your tower.
I know because I ran four of them in a half X at the time and it was ridonculous.
They didn't throttle or die, but it was in a half X.
So like, yeah, we gave them a fighting chance.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I don't remember.
I don't remember where I was going with that anymore.
Right, right, right, right, right.
The answer is not that simple.
Life is rarely that simple.
What car should I buy?
I don't know.
Do you need a truck bed?
Do you have to make long haul trips across North America?
Maybe you need a semi.
I don't know.
Are you trying to pick up chicks?
Maybe lose the semi.
Unless you're trying to pick up trucker chicks, in which case grab the semi.
I don't know.
Who are you?
What are you about?
Or just a classy woman who wants a man with a straight up job.
Right, and doesn't want to see him very often.
Maybe.
Maybe she's introverted.
Okay, so introverted chicks who are into a guy with a well-paying job that has him away
from home a lot.
Now we're getting really specific.
Alright, so let's jump into our first topic of the day.
This one is from Ars Technica.
Are you dropping links?
Sure.
That was my way of saying, yo, drop the links.
I know.
We communicate so well now.
It's like the old married couple thing.
So the glasses, yeah, I'm cleaning them.
So this is really scary.
University of Cambridge study finds 87% of Android devices are insecure.
The study blames the OEMs for lack of updates and ranks Nexus devices as the most secure,
which shouldn't be a surprise for a couple of reasons.
Number one, the obvious reason that Google is responsible for updating Nexus devices
directly.
Number two, the less obvious and more unsettling reason is that the Nexus program hasn't been
around that long.
So Google commits support for Nexus devices for I believe it's two years.
So there just aren't that many Nexus devices that are outside of the support period, which
isn't saying that the Nexus program solves the problem at all.
Like at all.
This is really brutal.
Yeah.
I mean, this is just brutal stuff.
What else you got?
For this topic?
Yeah.
Google and OEMs have committed to, like he said, the monthly security update program,
but it's for less than two years old or for Nexus three years old.
Oh, there you go.
But that's security updates, not new versions of Android.
Right.
But still security updates.
Yeah.
So on people's devices, is it everywhere now that your contract is only allowed to last
for two years?
No.
That's Canadian law.
So not US?
Yeah.
I have no idea how it works elsewhere.
Okay.
So in Canada, your contract with your phone company can only last for two years.
But another thing is, is this agreement two years since the device launched?
I believe so.
So not two years since your contract started, and a lot of people are going to start a contract
and then only want to pay like 50 bucks for a phone, not a considerable amount for a phone.
So they might get an older model of a phone, which is actually very close to its security
updates being over.
So if you're going through rotations of phones based on renewing your contract, which is
extremely common, your, yeah, well, not anymore.
Yeah.
You could end up still on a very current for you phone that's within your contract period.
So you're not eligible for a device upgrade that is not still getting security updates.
And this has really come to a head because of some of the really scary Android exploits
that have cropped up lately.
So what's the answer?
Well, the answer is actually pretty obvious.
Both Apple and Microsoft with their recent FU to the U S carriers.
Yeah, that was awesome.
Which is awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's in there.
We should maybe we'll move on to, do you want to bring that up and we'll do that as our
next topic?
Um, both Apple and Microsoft have the answer.
You just have to, well say FU to the carriers and start and to the OEMs.
And that, I mean, that might not be something that, that that's, it's such a double edged
sword for Google.
So one, screw the carriers, no one cares about what they think.
And two, you have to be delivering your security updates from a central service the way that
both Apple with iOS and Microsoft with windows 10 are going to be doing.
The problem is that part of the Android benefit that the double edged sword that is Android
is that it gives the device makers the flexibility to implement their own upgrades and their
own tweaks and their own user experience enhancements.
Like whether it's a multi window support or whether it's enhanced, I mean little, even
just little stupid things like LGs enhanced copy paste is awesome.
Like so awesome.
It just comes with, it just comes with a clipboard, clipboard tray.
It's like, yay, this is cool.
Or I mean just little things like the way that Motorola, I love showing this off because
it is so cool.
The way that Motorola lets you just flick a couple of times and turn on your flashlight
or wiggle and turn on the camera.
Like my camera launch is faster than any other, anyone else because I can be wiggling it as
I lift it up to my face and my camera app is launched.
But there's, there's things around that too in the Microsoft article.
Yes.
And I would rather security personally in the Microsoft article though it says when
asked about carrier updates, Microsoft stated that Microsoft will be working closely with
mobile operators to leverage their, their testing and our, it's worded a little weird,
and are fighting to meet and exceed current quality bars.
We will use their input to decide when to send the updates out based on input from mobile
operators mainly and Windows insiders as well.
But like, so think about it.
They could talk to those carriers and be like, hey, we're going to launch this in X amount
of time, here's all the code, update your crap.
And if they don't do it, that's their fault in my opinion, but instead it's going the
other way around.
They're being too careful about it, being like, here's your stuff.
You send it out whenever you're ready.
That's putting no pressure on them and they're just going to be like, ah, we'll update it
when our small team has enough time to do so.
And like I, I get the argument from the Android handset maker side where they're like, uh,
you know what, actually our margins are really slim and we straight up can't afford the dev
time if you're going to expect us to release a new device X, Y or Z.
And you know what?
The answer to that then is you have to charge more.
You can't just keep slashing your price and in order to stay competitive and just kind
of say Yolo, screw it to the customers who already bought your products.
And the really disappointing part of all of this is, you know, that it's not just the
little guys.
I get it if ZTE or like, you know, what would be an example of like a small, anyway, I get
it.
If you're little, you're little companies, you know, you're one plus or whatever.
If they're kind of going, yeah, we have an enthusiast phone.
We expect people to update their OS themselves or whatever.
We're charging a rock bottom price for it.
I get it.
If they're kind of taking that stance and that sucks for their users, but hopefully
they go into that knowing what they're getting.
But for the giants like Samsung, it's totally inexcusable to be spending your billions of
dollars on marketing the next big thing when you're not actually taking care of the last
freaking big thing properly.
So I mean, yeah, let's see if there's anything else to really mention about the Windows thing.
Not much.
Basically Microsoft is just being relatively aggressive when it comes to updating their
stuff and they're saying that their main input on when to update things will be from Windows
insiders and mobile operators.
But they will just be pushing it directly through their own services anyways.
So if services, if things need to be updated, they just will be.
So there's a lot of things I like about Android, but this security to me could be a huge, huge
factor for Windows mobile adoption.
Yeah.
I mean, it still needs app support, but, but, but.
Security for a while has been kind of pushing me away from Android a bit to be completely
honest.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, looking at the, the arts, the arts graph has a great, has a great graphic
here too.
So it's, I mean, this isn't new.
That's the whole point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like going back to April, 2012.
Yeah.
It was the same as it is today in October, 2016.
Yeah.
And there are, we've talked about this repeatedly in the past over and over and over again about
how there's huge security problems and like, people are going to slam on me, but I don't
care.
When iPhone's coming out with like the little encrypted core and all that kind of stuff.
And when there's the huge case in the States where they were trying to see if, wasn't it
government could see what's on that part of your phone.
And they said, no, you can't.
That's awesome.
That's super cool.
It's annoying because there's no way I want to give up this phone.
Yup.
I love this phone.
Yup.
Like I actually do.
Yeah.
There's, there's stuff that I hate about the, the iPhone and there's phone experiences.
The fact that with iOS, you must have an iPhone, which means if you want decent battery life,
you better put some kludgy stupid Mophie case over top of it.
It's like, thank you, Joni Ive for your beautiful industrial design that just doesn't camera
bump.
Like just so much dumb crap.
There's so many things that make me hate.
Use the camera bump and fill it with battery.
What a concept.
Yeah.
But whatever.
It's not artistic enough or something.
And then windows phone.
I mean, I think my problems with windows phone are fairly well documented at this point.
Speaking of the iPhone though, let's, let's bring up chip gates, the iPhone six S controversy.
So I'm just going to pull up Austin's video on it, which has about 500,000 views.
Yes.
This is something that a lot about an ad.
Well, we're supporting Austin, right?
Cool.
So I'm going to pull up Austin's video on it.
One thing that I really liked that I got caught here is Jonathan Morrison as well.
These guys like kind of teamed up for these videos.
So they both have a call out to each other at the end of each other's videos and their
videos compliment each other.
So if you're interested in chip gate, check out Austin's and Jonathan Morrison's.
Yeah.
So basically in a nutshell, Apple couldn't get enough chips or didn't want to for whatever
reason buy all of their chips from a single source because the reality of it is there's
only a handful of manufacturers on the planet.
Apple not being one of them who can actually fabricate semiconductors like that is micro
microprocessors at the latest manufacturing process nodes.
So Intel is one of them.
And you can bet that Intel isn't going to run around making iPhone CPU's Samsung is
another one and as unlikely a partnership as that seems Samsung is actually one of the
sources for the iPhone 6S TSMC is another one.
Global foundries, the spinoff from AMD's old manufacturing is another.
And I can't remember what happened.
We actually talked about this on WAN show, but I can't remember what happened to IBM's
IBM's junk, but chip fabrication.
I think they might have sold to global foundries if I recall correctly.
So anyway, there's only a handful of companies you can make them from and usually you go
with one or the other because it requires a significant amount of re-engineering of
the chip itself in order to utilize someone else's manufacturing process.
And in the case of Samsung and TSMC, we are actually talking about them not even quite
being on the same node.
So one of them is, I believe is 14 nanometer while the other is 16 nanometer.
But I'm doing that off the top of my head.
Is that correct?
I'm pretty sure it's 14, 16.
I don't see it in the thing.
I'll try to find it.
Which actually means that TSMC's chip is slightly physically larger even noticeably.
So Apple had to do a metric crap ton of work.
Now to be clear, a smaller manufacturing process does not always mean faster transistor switching.
So that's the frequency, the megahertz.
It does not always mean that.
It doesn't always mean less or more heat output.
Perfect example of that was, oh crap, I am drawing a complete blank.
But if I recall correctly, heat output was a bit of an issue on early Ivy Bridge.
But don't quote me on that.
Anyway, the point is that you don't always get this.
Shrinking it was good for a long time and then it started to get to the point where
shrinking it more caused higher heat density, which was harder to dissipate because you
just don't have a whole lot of area to slap a heat sink on anymore.
So it's a very, very complicated equation.
And at the end of the day, so for whatever reason, Apple is dual sourcing their A9 processors
from TSMC and from Samsung.
Yes, 14 nanometer from Samsung and 16 nanometer from TSMC.
And the chip gate is already on Wikipedia.
That's awesome.
So basically, YouTuber Austin Evans tested both and saw that TSMC's hardware was capable
of a longer battery life in his test.
So he was using an app called Lyrum that identifies which processor a phone has.
And then you pull a reference number and it tells you exactly what code corresponds to
it.
The app was, by the way, pulled temporarily due to compatibility issues and is being put
back up.
That's according to the doc.
I'm not sure if it's back up yet.
I also know that it was free and it showed up again as a paid app, so there's that as
well.
Apple actually did issue a statement.
One of these days, YouTubers are going to stop twisting the thumb screws on poor Apple
with bend gates and chip gates.
I wonder what the next gate will be.
So Apple stated that certain manufactured lab tests which run the processors with a
continuous heavy workload until the battery depletes are not representative of a real
world use case scenario, which on Android, they wouldn't be able to say, because I've
certainly managed that with stupid power hogging apps, since they spend an unrealistic amount
of time at the highest CPU performance state, it is a misleading way to measure real world
battery life.
One thing I must say is that manufactured lab tests, if Austin or Jonathan read that
and that is describing their things, good job guys.
That's impressive.
Because Apple saying that what you did was a manufactured lab test is pretty dope, actually.
But also, they both did a very hardcore style, if I remember correctly, I think they both
did a very hardcore style lab test style test, and then also did more realistic style scenarios.
And doing this-
To be clear, by manufactured, we're meaning synthetic, not real world actual usage.
And then-
And then they did things like, oh, I took a time lapse for a while, or I recorded a
video for 10 minutes, which is not unrealistic at all.
So they both did more real life stuff.
Uploaded the video, ran Geekbench, and so at the end of that, the Samsung iPhone was
reading 55% battery, and the TSMC iPhone was reading 62%.
So-
There were some variances based on what tests that they did, but like I said earlier, check
out both of their videos.
And a thing to understand too, is that even from chip to chip, from the same manufacturer
off of the same freaking wafer, you can see significant variations.
I mean, that's why, you know, the Core i7 5960X exists, and the 5820K also exists.
They're the same damn thing, they come off of the same wafer.
But some are better than others, and that's life.
Some of them run at-
I mean, Intel for example, this happened a couple generations ago now, they stopped rating
their processors at a fixed default voltage.
Yeah.
It's a range now.
So if you buy a CPU for your desktop, it could run at slightly lower or higher power consumption
than the one in your phone, so that shouldn't really surprise anyone.
But that hasn't kept the usual knee-jerk reaction of, of, you know, re-product recall, class
action lawsuit, from kind of cropping up.
It's just, if Apple only advertises the lower of the two, then it's more of a, yay, I got
a bonus.
Yes.
Then I got ripped off by buying, you know, luck of the draw, I got the wrong one.
And also, to be fair, it's fairly consistent that the TSMC chip is coming out with much
better, well, not necessarily even much better, but definitely better.
But noticeably better.
Yeah, battery life, it's pretty consistent, so the binning thing might not completely
apply here.
It applies to everything to a certain degree, but I think it's beyond that by a fair amount.
So, I mean, I guess with all of that said, so we got all the factual stuff out of the
way, what's your take on this?
I don't know.
I already don't like battery life on like everything.
This phone is actually a pretty good exception.
I can often get a day and three quarters, or maybe even two days if I really drag it
out on the second day and like try not to have the screen on too much.
So anything that's going to screw with my battery life on a phone that honestly doesn't
have that great battery life already, I would probably be pretty pissed off.
So would you return it?
Bearing in mind that Apple's return policy is excellent, would you return it and roll
the dice again?
Probably.
I don't, like setting up a new device does not take that long for me.
Nope, it doesn't anymore.
It used to.
So if I had a Samsung chip, I would actually return it, yes.
But would you feel like you're entitled to class action, whatever the heck, if you're
a bunch of people stuck with Samsung chips now?
Maybe not.
Class action in what form?
Like, do you think Apple owes you money?
So I get like 20 bucks.
Yeah, well that's how they usually work.
If they actually thought that they had advertised it in a different way, yes.
I don't know, I haven't looked at any of their advertisements.
If I could test it against one of their advertisements and then be like, no, it didn't make through
what you just told me it would, then sure, yes, I would feel that way because that's
false advertising and that's bullshit.
But if it's just not as good as the other one, then no, I would just try to roll and
gamble and get it eventually.
Like I'd just return it and then if that didn't work, just return it and then whatever.
I actually haven't tested my success yet.
You should do it right now.
No, you have to do a bunch of crap.
I thought you just downloaded an app and checked.
No, well okay, it might be now.
When I first looked, you had to download an app and you had to do a bunch of other stupid
crap and register on something or whatever.
I was like, ah, that's great, I don't really care that much.
But what I did notice is that compared to my 6, I was like doing better at the end of
the day in terms of battery life when Apple is not making any claims about the 6s having
better battery life than the 6s.
So maybe I got a bonus, maybe I got a TSMC chip, but I don't know.
So my take on this is that A, the class action isn't going to work.
It's not like this has never been done before.
Nvidia with the 960M I want to say was using either Maxwell or Kepler depending on which
notebook model you were buying.
I'm going to double-check.
Oh, that's gross.
I'm going to double-check that.
Did anything happen with the RAM thing, 3.5 gigs versus 4?
No, I don't think so.
See, something maybe should have happened.
No, maybe it's not the 960M.
Honestly, I think something should have happened.
Was it the 860M or something like that?
860M, Kepler versus Maxwell.
Yeah, it looks like it was the 860M.
Here we go.
So here's notebook check.
I don't know how comprehensive their benchmarks are or anything like that, but I think they've
got, yeah, they've got 860M Kepler versus Maxwell.
So let's have a look here, 45.2 FPS, 49.6 FPS in Unigine Heaven.
So here, Maxwell is actually significantly faster in certain workloads, slower in others.
Yeah, here we go.
Real world games.
So the Kepler comes out ahead, Maxwell comes out ahead.
They kind of trade blows.
The advantage, I guess, that NVIDIA had in that case was that you couldn't read a review
of that notebook and get a different thing because it was by model of notebook.
So MSI's model XYZ might have Kepler and ASUS's model ABC might have Maxwell.
Whereas with the iPhone 6S, there is, and Apple must understand this, there is more
to it than just the manufacturer's rated spec, be all and end all, as much as they'd love
for that to be the case.
There's reviewers, there's independent media out there testing these things.
So if it came to light, for example, that I know Apple doesn't seed a ton of devices
directly, but if it came to light that Apple went out of their way to seed a bunch of TSMC
phones, then that could reflect very poorly on them.
And in fact, the only way to really do damage control in that case would be, I think, for
Apple to have seeded out only Samsung phones, for example, so they could kind of go, okay,
whenever we had any direct influence on the review being done, we showed a worst case
scenario.
But if Apple collaborated with reviewers for reviews of the iPhone 6S to be done, and it
is represented in a way that is not indicative of what the consumer will actually receive,
then they could have a real problem on their hands.
But I think it's probably going to take years for all of this to play out, and by then we'll
be bored of talking about it, and people may or may not get their $20 check in the mail,
and that'll basically be that.
People are asking who my favorite hockey team is.
Toronto Maple Leafs.
Just kidding, Leafs totally suck.
What is with people asking all these deep questions in Twitch chat?
It's like Twitch chat has forgotten what they are.
Linus, if you never got into computers, what do you think you'd be doing with your life?
I would probably be an elementary school teacher.
Teacher because I've always liked presenting, I've always been good at sort of taking things
and turning them into something other people can understand, which is kind of sort of what
I do now.
And then elementary school because I'm just not that smart, so high school.
Basically to teach anyone, I feel like you have to have one or two levels higher of knowledge
than you're expecting to give to them.
So I'm not smart enough to teach university or high school, but I definitely have a firm
enough understanding of the next two levels up to teach elementary school, so that's probably
what I would have gone with.
Oh, I've got a whole lot of screw you, Linus.
What do you mean screw you, Linus?
Even Mike Babcock cannot make the Leafs good, I'm sorry.
Even all the, what was his, here, hold on, what was the Mike Babcock contract, because
that was like horrendous, wasn't it like 70 million or something ridiculous like that?
A 50 million dollar contract, it's like no matter how much money you spent, honestly
I think the coach's salary in cases like this, where you're doing like blockbuster coaching
deals, I think it should cost against your cap hit.
Because if the whole idea behind the salary cap is that you want to increase parity in
the league, you don't want people running around spending 50, so what is it, 8 year
deal at 6.25 million on the coach, and like all this crap, you know, like these other
staff to like make the players better, but, I mean, with that said, whether a salary cap
has a place in professional sports is a whole other argument that I'm not getting into,
I'm just saying that if you're going to have a salary cap, and if you're going to, you
know, play that song that's all about equality and every team having an equal chance at a
Stanley Cup, then it should also apply to the rest of the staff on the ice.
Do you want to segue from that to more things about equality and equal chance and slamming
on Nvidia a little bit more?
Oh sure, yeah.
To something that I don't think is in the dock, but should have been?
It's not?
I put it on the list.
Is it?
How is this not in the dock?
I thought I put it on the list.
What the crap?
Okay, well, this super, super pissed me off for a number of reasons, Nvidia, GeForce Experience,
GameDay drivers, sorry, I'll find some article and I'll bring it up for you guys, oh look,
it's Ars Technica again, these guys are awesome, I love Ars Technica, they're actually like
my favourite tech news site, other than linustechtips.com where you can also discuss with members of
the Linus Tech Tips community the Ars Technica articles that we link to, so the latest Nvidia
drivers to be locked behind GeForce Experience, so it's pretty unusual for Nvidia to do a
whole press briefing, conference call thing about...
Anything that isn't hardware.
Yeah, anything that isn't hardware, or like...
The software stuff is always just attached to some launch.
Yes, and they're really good at doing that, because it gives us something to talk about
when we're like, it's the GTX 950.
You increased all the spec numbers.
But not as high as the 960 and 970 that we already have, if we're willing to shell out
some more money.
So it gives the press something to like, an actual story to tell, which is great.
But they did one.
And I talked to Luke and John, who attended this call, and the report was something along
the lines of...
To be fair, I figured out there was no hardware coming out, and I bailed early.
Oh right, okay, and then John's report was something along the lines of, this is the
most boring briefing ever, and he used to work in law.
So like, rip Nvidia.
So basically, what's happening is, game-ready drivers will no longer be downloadable through
the Nvidia website, which is crazy, and only like, standard drivers will be available through
the Nvidia website, which I think come out once a quarter or something, they're not that
common.
And then to be able to get game-ready drivers, you have to have Geforce experience.
And sign up with your email address.
Yes, email address verification required, to be able to download anything.
Now to be clear, it's not like you can't use a throwaway email address.
It's not like you can't filter the crap out of your email, so they just go into a dump
folder immediately.
Yes.
But, why?
It's just dirty.
Putting any impediment in the way of a driver is horrible.
I mean, I don't think I've ever ripped on Adaptec for this before.
Adaptec turns off their download driver servers outside of business hours.
So I was in the middle of the night, reformatting a server, trying to get my new OS on it, I'm
trying to get my array back online, and I cannot install drivers for my raid card.
Are you for real?
So I mean, any reason for, you know, downloadrepository.com, which probably exists, and maybe it's legit,
but it probably isn't, any reason for those sites to never have to exist ever again is
good.
Yes.
Hiding your drivers behind, and even just stupid stuff, like wasting my time.
Why do I have to download off your site and then click Update in GeForce Experience and
wait for another download and another install?
It's stupid.
And the biggest thing is, I even like GeForce Experience, but I don't care.
This is dumb.
And in NVIDIA, I mean, there are a lot of things that you can say in NVIDIA's defense.
In their defense, after you install drivers for the first time, a reboot is no longer
required.
So once you install within GeForce Experience, at least you don't.
Does that have anything to do with your email?
At least you don't have to restart.
No, that's just crappy across the board.
Yeah.
Like, GeForce Experience is cool.
I actually really like it.
I was complaining about them wasting my time, because I can give them a throwaway email.
I don't care.
But wasting my time, I don't like.
And then sort of another sort of kind of, okay, yeah, I guess I kind of get it thing.
Imagine this is your first time, too.
You just got a new graphics card.
You didn't have a NVIDIA graphics card before.
You just want to play some games.
You show up at your buddy's house.
You're going to install the card, and then have a little LAN between the two of you.
You install your card.
He's already kind of playing, and you're just like, come on, okay, I downloaded GeForce
Experience.
Okay, now I have to type in my email.
What?
Now I have to verify this.
So you have to go to your email, click on the thing, verify the thing.
Okay, now I can actually download the driver.
Okay, now I probably have to restart.
It's just obnoxious.
Like, there's so many more steps.
So, again, in NVIDIA's defense, they're older, non-game-ready drivers from our recent driver
through the driver improvements through the ages showdown are pretty good.
In NVIDIA's defense, again, they're quarterly, wickle, complete package drivers absolutely
crush how often AMD is doing it right now, but that leads us...
But none of this has to do with the email.
No, I know.
I completely agree.
The email is rubbish, and that's stupid, and this shouldn't exist.
But all those other things basically lead me to my final point.
If AMD was competitive, this wouldn't be happening.
This is the kind of crap that doesn't happen if NVIDIA has to kind of look at their, you
know, also has 40% of the market and a very competitive product, and this could push consumers
over the edge.
If NVIDIA doesn't have to worry about AMD breathing down their neck, a lot of people
kind of go, you know, NVIDIA needs AMD to keep their prices fair.
You know what?
NVIDIA has kind of locked into what they figure people are willing to pay for a graphics card,
and they're already charging as much as they feel like.
Let's be honest.
This is the kind of stuff that worries me more, where they feel like they've got free
reign to...
Because, like, straight up, this is for marketing emails.
Yes.
They've got free reign to ask for your personal information and to waste your time because
what else are you going to buy?
So that's basically the long and short of that one.
I don't like it.
You shouldn't like it, but I'm not really sure what I'm going to do, because I want
game-ready drivers, so I guess I'll be downloading them through GeForce experience.
For people that already have GeForce cards, like...
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You can't really vote with your wallet at that point unless you have enough money to
buy a new card already.
And people that have, like, a 900 series card, it's probably not a thing, because they probably
just bought it.
Pretty rough.
Don't like it.
Very annoying.
So let's move on to our next topic.
And that's the same thing like what you just said.
It's not technically the worst thing in the world.
I can just filter it out, but it's scary.
Yep.
It's just crappy.
Anyways, Tesla cars can drive themselves starting October 15th.
That's a little bit sensationalist.
Yeah, that is like a super...
Like a mega-redonkulously sensationalist.
Like the Verge used to be cool.
You guys used to be cool.
And like now you're really not being that cool right now.
Tesla's cars can drive themselves starting tomorrow.
In a straight line.
No.
They can...
Sort of.
Well, a little bit more than that.
They can switch lanes and stuff.
If you turn your turn signal on, then it's like, oh, okay.
So basically, they can...
It's like super badass cruise control.
Someone described it that way.
That's not me saying that.
I'm copying them.
I don't remember who it was.
But it's basically like the sickest cruise control.
Yeah.
They're officially saying right now you're supposed to keep your hands on the wheel.
Yep.
Please do that.
You're not supposed to let go of the wheel.
Yep.
And I would highly recommend that.
It's auto-steer.
It's gonna keep you in the lanes.
It'll check for side collisions.
It can turn for you if you turn the turn signal on.
All this kind of stuff.
Wait, I don't think it turns for you.
I think it changes lanes for you only.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
It'll change lanes for you if you turn your turn signal on.
Auto-park.
So it'll scan for parking spots.
Yep.
They're saying this is...
That's a beta feature, by the way.
I love how there's beta features for a car.
It's so dangerous.
I believe this is version 7.0?
Something like that.
Yep.
Yeah.
7.0.
So 7.1 will make it so that it can drive out to a garage and then come pick you up.
But...
Yeah.
Is that even in here?
Yep.
That's in here.
That's what it does.
Yes.
Okay.
So 7.1 will be able to drive off to a garage and come pick you up when needed, which is
super sick.
But yeah, they're being very clear that if problems happen, it's still totally your fault.
So basically, it's kind of coming along.
They're gonna be continuously uploading real-world sensor data from the 7.0 equipped vehicles
to continue to improve it.
So there's four sensor types on the car that they're gonna be utilizing here.
Forward radar, forward-facing camera, 360-degree ultrasonic sensors, and a GPS combined with
their high-resolution navigation maps.
So they're probably gonna be learning patterns.
Yes.
Well, if this car starts driving this way, maybe I should stay away from it or whatever.
It'll all start learning.
And the whole fleet will kind of hive mind to each other and allow themselves to learn
to drive better.
And so Tesla figures that the functionality will improve with each passing week, even
without firmware updates, since the car is always accessing and improving Tesla's high-res
maps.
Very cool.
Awesome.
That's interesting.
I watched a video, and it's a little creepy, because the guy goes over a fairly substantial
bump.
I don't know if it's a pothole or what it is, because the camera's on the inside of
the car.
So I can't see what's on the road.
Right.
But the car jumps a little bit, and you can tell it went over something.
It wasn't the car just jumping.
And the wheel is like, oh, oh, oh, okay.
And the car doesn't jostle around, but it does just amount the correction that it probably
needed to.
And it picks everything.
And the car's like, okay, it's fine.
It's just crazy to watch.
I don't know.
It was pretty cool.
I think it was Jalopnik that I watched the video on.
Excellent.
You can check that out if you want.
All right.
We've got, I think we're going to kind of bundle four news topics into one here.
So AMD reports their third quarter results.
So the original article here was from MarketWatch.
Basically they're not good, but if you look at it quarter over quarter instead of year
over year, then I guess the revenue growth is nice, but they're still losing like millions
and millions of dollars.
They're back over a billion dollars revenue, which is cool, I guess.
That's cool.
But like I could, I could sell $10 bills for $8 and I could probably do a billion dollars
of revenue, which is basically what AMD is doing.
So AMD is spinning off their backend testing and assembly operations into a joint venture
for 371 million.
So, you know, back to, back to the whole, back to the whole, I think it was Jerry Sanders
the third real men have fabs AMD now not only doesn't have fabs, they don't have the assembly
plant for taking the Silicon and turning it into chips.
They are going full fabless.
But the good news is that this gets rid of, I think it was something like 1700 employees
that are no longer on payroll.
Yep.
So they're contribute, the joint venture will see AMD contribute their facilities in Penang.
They're not being fired.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Joint joint venture with, oh crap.
Now I forget.
Fujitsu?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
So, so there you go.
So there's that.
So, so more bad news for AMD and actually some bad news for Intel.
They report flat revenues and lower year over year profits for Q3.
Original article here is from tech report and the reason that that's bad news is because
if business isn't growing, that's really, really, really, really terrible because as
much as they're still making, you know, 65% gross margin on their 14.6 billion dollars
of revenue, which I think was something along the lines of, oh crap, I forget what net profit
was.
It was in the notes.
Do you have it?
I do not see it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Are you sure net profit is in the notes?
No, I'm not sure.
Net profits were still very, very, very good.
But growth is very important.
Growth is important.
It means you're innovating.
It means your customers are inspired, they're coming back for more.
I was just going to say inspired and coming back for more.
I'm not that surprised.
Yeah, I'm not surprised either, which ties into the last, the last, oh, apparently this
link to CTV news is dead, unfortunately.
So there's, basically the synopsis is Intel, HP, PC does what campaign.
There we go.
Ours Technica site is working.
Yay, ours.
Cringeworthy PC does what campaign wants you to upgrade.
So because Intel has been building more power efficient desktop chips and hasn't necessarily
been that focused on, you know, dramatically improving performance.
And I mean, there's, there's another issue is that there's not a whole lot of things
that you would want to do on a PC today that you couldn't do on a PC from three to four
years ago.
So help make more things.
So help make more things.
And I mean, it's not like they're not trying.
I mean, there's those cameras with the depth sensor that I can't imagine what anyone, but
a game streamer would use for anything.
There's other stuff you can do though.
I don't know.
I think the VR space is going to be huge for people upgrading PCs.
Yes, that will.
But in the meantime, we have PC does what campaign.
And it's Dell, HP, Intel, Lenovo, and Microsoft contributing to this with no specific like
product that they're trying to sell.
And the idea is just to educate apparently very mainstream users.
This is a mainstream user, I think, according to this campaign to educate mainstream users
about what a PC does and why you might give a crap about it.
So there's a PC.
That's something someone would do.
That's the, wow, that's, I hadn't actually watched it yet.
Yeah, most helicopter pilots probably have a laptop in their lap.
Wow.
This is actually far worse than I thought.
Wow.
I know it's sponsored by Lenovo into basically every single one of those situations that
laptop that you're testing out would have been better because it's more rugged.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's pretty brutal.
Sorry.
I don't know.
Why didn't they come to us for this?
We could have done so much better.
Yeah.
The problem is we would have come up with like awesome stuff that a PC does that has
zero interest.
That didn't have a helicopter or some dude in a dinghy in the ocean.
That has like, but the problem is we could, we'd come up with stuff that she's not interested
in.
Mind you, I don't think she's interested in flying a helicopter with a computer in her
lap either.
No one should be interested in that.
And like the music, they play the music in the cockpit.
No one would use a full laptop for that.
Not to mention, not to mention that I've never encountered a laptop that you'd be able to
hear over the sound of helicopter rotors.
No, no.
You'd have a phone and then that would talk to the helicopter, which would then broadcast
that to your headset.
That's assuming that we have helicopters with like Bluetooth dashboard stereos.
Oh, you do.
Do they?
There's bad ass.
Okay.
Okay.
Like luxury.
That wasn't a luxury helicopter.
That was like the coast guard.
Yeah.
I mean we're talking.
Hey man, pass the aux cable.
We're talking.
We're going to play this fire.
We're talking as lucky if that thing flies in Canada.
We use boats for usually.
Did you say for usually?
Because that actually would have been awesome in that case.
We use boats for usually.
We're Canada.
I think I said usually.
This is bad.
This is some ugly stuff.
This is over on Engadget.
Bell, as much as sometimes they're our friends because my reception, except here at the office
where we had to get a cell booster, is good.
It's not that amazing though.
Yeah, it's okay.
I came from TELUS and I've very vocally said many things about TELUS.
It's not like I love them, but my reception is slightly worse with Bell.
It shouldn't be.
They share towers.
Really?
Yeah.
It's noticeably slightly worse in some areas.
Bell shares towers with TELUS in the east and TELUS shares towers with Bell in the west.
That's really weird.
It's worse at my parents' house and it's worse at... Actually, that's not true.
It's worse in one part of my house and it's better in the other.
It could be your phone too.
Something that almost no one... It's really funny.
Of course, no one covers this in phone reviews anymore because reception is, for the most
part, fine, but the Droid Turbo has terrible reception, at least for me, because as a Verizon
phone, I'm not 100% sure if it supports all of Bell's bands.
So that is a major factor.
That could totally be it because, like I said, in part of my house where my phone straight
up didn't work before, it now works, but in the rest of my house, it usually works, but
it's kind of sketchy.
Anyway, I mostly... I like to like Bell because there's certain things that they do right
by me, but this was not one of them.
So they've got a $1.2 million fine on their hands from Canada's Competition Bureau after
employees posted fake reviews of Bell apps on the Apple App Store and on Google Play
... On the Google Play Store.
So basically, they had kind of crap ratings until some employees were, according to the
regulator, encouraged to post glowing testimonials of the My Bell and Virgin My Account apps
to both the App Store and Google Play.
So it was exposed by Scott Stratton, who was aware of the app's poor standing on iTunes,
and he suddenly saw the rating skyrocket due to a series of five-star reviews and then
did some digging on LinkedIn, found out that the most praiseworthy mentions were directors,
marketing managers, and other paid people by Bell Canada, and...
This dude was angry.
Yeah, forced the company to admit that certain employees had been encouraged to post the
ratings, but as soon as bosses were made aware, they ended the practice.
Come on.
That's pretty brutal.
Yeah.
I'm happy that this dude was angry enough to figure it out.
And I'm glad that this sets a precedent in Canada for this thing.
This is the first time a company has faced significant monetary fines for biased reviews
in Canada.
And like Linus said, what, at the beginning of the show or in the announcement?
I don't even know what it was in, but-
I don't even know what day it is.
The $1.25 million, which is just under a million dollars US, I think.
Which would be enough to bankrupt Linus Media Group and Linus forever, but is not a drop
in the bucket for Bell.
It's not that big of a deal for Bell.
So they got their review a little bit higher, and that might have even helped them.
Maybe?
Maybe.
Not to the tune of $1.1 million, I don't think, but-
It was a little bit of a gamble, and they lost, and oh well, I guess.
And I guess that's the kind of stakes that you play with when you're a national telecommunications
company.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, I'm a high roller, so whatevs.
Speaking of being a high roller or whatevs, we have sponsors for the show today that I'm
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It was Washington or Oregon?
Crap.
I'm not good at US geography, but we went to a Logitech place, Luke and Brandon did.
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Brandon, where was it?
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We were staying in Portland, and then it was up above, was it not?
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Yeah, they're not, no, no, they're not exactly the same shape.
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It's kind of difficult because-
Which one was shaped like this, and which one was exactly flat?
Yeah.
Mind you, that shouldn't be hard.
The one with the flat lines is the one with the flat surface.
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Okay, Nick is apparently watching Wanshow instead of doing work, and has told us that
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For what?
We wanted to watch a, what was it?
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Then their plans start at, why isn't the plan start at a mountain here?
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So let's head into our next topic.
What other topics do you want to do today?
Should we do the other stuff?
There's build logs, there's also a Star Citizen callout that I would like to do.
Did you just do something, did we do something wrong?
No no no no, Nick's like, yeah, sorry I forgot, my bad, please don't fire me.
There's something along those lines, it's gonna happen though, so you know, whatever.
Oh oh oh oh oh oh, okay, sorry.
You know what, I guess we'll have to both be fired if anyone's gonna be fired, because
he missed putting the starting prices in the dock, and I missed telling you you can save
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So we both got wrecked.
I thought you did say that.
Get wrecked, Nick!
You got wrecked!
We'll get wrecked together!
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All night!
Okay, we can do build logs, build logs, build logs.
Let's do the Uber thing, that's cool.
Uber thing?
Yeah, original article here is from TechCrunch, and this is some pretty freakin' Smurf stuff
right here.
Uber takes on delivery, yeah, Smurf, it means good, don't worry about it.
It's a Family Guy reference, you wouldn't understand.
Oh, people use it for like gaming, like if you're really good and high ranked and you
make a new account so you can play against crappy people, they call it Smurf.
I thought that was called Sandbag.
Sandbagging?
Maybe both?
I think the new kids call it Smurfing.
Yeah, Smurf account, no I've heard that before, I've heard it in that context, I haven't heard
it called Smurfing, but I've heard it called a Smurf account.
Anyway, Uber takes on the package delivery services with UberRush, an on-demand delivery
service.
This looks freakin' awesome, so basically they built an infrastructure of people driving
around.
And the whole chat's like, Sandbagging?
You're so old!
Hold on.
Oh, you know what, no, Sandbagging is deliberately underperforming, oh yeah, no this is right,
so having an account that deliberately underperforms to gain an unfair advantage in future matches.
Okay, kinda, yeah.
No, the idea I think with Smurfing is just creating a new one.
Yes, but that would represent, your record would not be representative, it's the same
idea.
Sandbagging is a thing, so you guys can get wrecked too.
Someone has a high ranked account and then they repeatedly lose on purpose.
To get seated against a more favorable, yeah that's definitely a thing, actually one of
the most embarrassing examples of sandbagging that I ever saw was the women's, I think it
was like a, it was women's badminton, in the last Summer Olympics I wanna say, 2012, throw
match, something along those lines, yeah here we go.
So this was in, oh bloody hell, can't remember, anyway, the video is amazing, it's like professional
badminton players playing on like my level, just like not even trying, and the reason
was that they already knew the results of another match, another couple matches, and
they wanted to fall in a better place in the bracket so they'd have a better chance of
going through.
Anyway, all the players ended up getting disqualified, so get wrecked, thank you Olympics for being
on top of that.
But let's get back to Uber Rush.
So it's a pilot version of its merchant delivery service, then it was launched October 14th
in San Fran, New York and Chicago.
We still don't even have Uber in Canada, thanks to the taxi mafia, it's focused on local shops
for the moment, and it utilizes vehicle and bike couriers to deliver things quickly.
So Uber drivers can pick up passengers and packages, but can't do both at the same time.
So businesses basically don't have to pay Uber to sign up for Uber Rush, but each delivery
will cost the merchant between five and seven dollars, which is not bad when you consider
that it happens right away.
So Business Insider tried the New York City pilot, and a reporter had a raincoat she forgot
at a meeting, and picked it up and dropped it off, and it was picked up and dropped off
within twenty minutes for eleven dollars.
Wow.
Pretty cool, hey?
That's not bad at all.
Um, so yeah.
That's pretty cool.
That's awesome, I just wish we had Uber at all!
Yeah, even slightly would be nice.
Yeah.
Um, this is like, the shittiest news ever, but basically John Total Biscuit, Bain, has
– whoops, that's the wrong thing – has released a statement on Twitter that basically
says his cancer is back.
So I don't know if all of you are necessarily familiar with Total Biscuit, but you probably
should be –
I am.
Yeah, I know.
You probably should be.
We've had him as a guest on WAN Show before, where he was awesome, by the way, but he's
awesome at a lot more things than just being a guest on WAN Show.
The dude, upstanding dude, has really changed games journalism in a way that goes beyond
how many subscribers he has on YouTube, and the long and short of it is, the average life
expectancy for the condition that he's in right now is two to three years, however,
that is based on that the condition that he's in is usually found in older people who are
less capable of fighting it, so he's hoping for the best, and who knows what cancer treatments
are going to be available in the next, who knows, even two to three years, hopefully
he's got a fighting chance, but it's back, so we're talking about that, not because
it's tech news necessarily, but just because it's a bummer.
Check out Total Biscuit while you can, but we are still really hoping for the best for
him.
Also he's closing his Starcraft 2 team, Axiom, this was another, there's a screen grab
of the full announcement that I can pull up here, but basically it's come to an end,
the Axiom website is down, they hadn't been having a great run in terms of competitiveness
for a variety of reasons over the last little bit anyway, but in light of what's going
on in Jon's life, yeah he's focusing more on family and medical expenses at the moment.
This super sucks, not only do I like him as a person, having him on the show and talking
to him outside of the show and stuff, but I literally watch everything he releases.
I had never talked to him before, we had him on the show actually, which is kind of funny,
because I just like- I had talked to him at shows as a fan without him knowing who I was
I think.
So, I hadn't done that, but I've actually stayed in touch with him since we had him
on the show almost 2 years ago.
So let's move on to something else I guess, let's do buildlogs.
So we actually haven't done this in a long time, but on the Linus Tech Tips forum, folks
can create- I'm actually going to move us out of the way here.
Folks can submit their buildlogs, so logs of their build, pretty self-explanatory.
I would recommend full-screening it if you can, the button is there.
There we go.
Yes, allow.
Why would I click full screen if I don't want it to allow it?
So basically, voters can- staff or community can pick ones that they like and then they
can be featured on the show.
At least that was the theory, we stopped doing it for a long time because we forgot.
So this one looks absolutely sick.
Check out that custom back plate for the graphics card.
Do you know what that skyline is?
The skyline?
Yeah.
I'm not sure.
Because I recognize the needle on the far left, but I don't know off the top of my head.
Someone's going to tell us what a bunch of idiots we are and they're going to know, but
I don't.
Yeah.
Absolutely gorgeous.
Look at that.
It reminds me of Sniff.
It's not Sniff, but it reminds me of Sniff.
That just looks fantastic.
I sure wish that this coolant made sense for anything other than like glam footage of systems.
You know that if you turn your system off for a while, it settles and then like goops
up, right?
So you have to literally run your system like pretty much continuously.
So in the chat was like, I don't like Luke.
One time he forgot who the actor who played Han Solo was.
I don't like Luke either.
Yeah.
And you probably don't even know that that's a somewhat roundabout Star Wars reference.
I know.
Do you?
I did know.
Do you?
You're a jerk.
So this is the second one.
So that was what?
That was voter's pick.
I think this is now the like mod team's pick.
But don't talk trash about Luke cause he'll rip your arms off.
Just like when he loses.
Proper.
You're referencing the wrong person.
Is that the whole point?
No.
Yeah.
It's just a Star Wars reference.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you're saying Luke.
What?
What are you saying that towards?
Even the previous reference was not Luke.
It was Dr. Whatever his face is.
But isn't he saying that towards?
Yeah.
He is saying that to Luke, I guess.
You've got that.
What you talking about?
Son?
That's not a reference to anything.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Who is that line delivered to?
He doesn't like you very much?
Is that what you're talking about?
No.
Yeah.
No.
That one's to Luke.
But who is Han telling that a Wookie?
No.
It's C-3PO.
That's right.
But he's talking about the Wookie.
Hmm?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Han is talking to C-3PO about Chewbacca.
Yes.
Yeah.
The Wookie's name is Chewbacca.
I know.
You said Wookie right then.
I don't know.
I don't know if you know these things.
You're a jerk.
I knew the character in the show.
I didn't know the actor.
So here's our staff pick.
Ugh.
And I do.
Ugh.
Wow.
You'll see.
It's pretty cool.
I've got wood.
Yes.
Basically.
Check that out.
Look at that bottom picture.
I'm liking it.
That's pretty sick.
That's fantastic.
Nice.
Nice and compact.
Looking pretty good.
I think it's cool.
All right.
We've got one more here.
So this is the like wild card got picked because holy crap what the hell system.
All right.
So this is it.
I think this is the only photo.
So he has a computer, an Xbox 360, a PlayStation 3, and a PlayStation 4 all water cooled on
one loop.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's fantastic.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you'd only really use one of them, but it is pretty cool.
Yeah.
But I mean, having those there for like, you know, museum.
Look at how inferior these ones look.
Museum archival purposes.
My favorite part is too, is all the PC components like color match the board and stuff.
And then it's like, oh, green grossness.
Yeah.
Here's some ugly PCBs I ripped out of some like turd boxes or whatever.
Okay.
To be fair, we have actually said that the PlayStation 4 was not terrible at launch.
And if you want to play exclusive title at launch, and now you can like kick it's ass.
Yeah.
But like all this crap, your worst stuff that went down.
Oh yeah.
I know when you guys see the new one.
Yeah.
It's even like, yeah, I don't know.
The result is very cool.
All right.
So the SCARP raised $4 million before having its funding suspended for not having a working
prototype.
And oh man, did they ever try to sell people on the idea that the footage they were showing
was somehow a working prototype.
It was not.
It was not even remotely a working prototype.
It was not.
I am, I am frankly a little disappointed that we talked about this thing.
See, this is why every time we get burned on this crap, I'm like, you know what?
We should just not cover Kickstarter stuff anymore.
You know what?
We should just stop covering Kickstarter stuff.
But then we get to cover this part of it.
And then there's like some cool thing.
Every single thing that we cover in Kickstarter is two topics.
We put it that way.
We're getting great mileage out of these topics.
We are.
Yeah.
They're amazing.
And then we already know everything about it.
Next time we have to cover it.
I think it's, we should only cover Kickstarter stuff.
Then we only have to prep a show twice a month.
So more than 20,000 people had backed the project.
This is, there's a great Reddit thread that you guys should read through about all the
reasons why what they were doing probably doesn't or perhaps could work.
The people digging into the alleged credibility of the people involved versus what they were
saying their credibility was.
People picking apart some of the footage and why it may or may not have had a filter over
the lens or whatever else.
So basically, it's back up on Indiegogo.
So there's that and has raised 300,000 US dollars already again.
So yup, there you go.
The campaign will receive all funds, even if it doesn't reach its goal.
So apparently the, if this is a scam, then they've set their sights a little lower, but
it'll take the 300 grand.
If it's not a scam, then I do sincerely hope that it, so I'm glad our logo's not there.
I do sincerely hope that it ends up being real.
I really want it to be real.
I super do.
They have not put any acknowledgement.
Have you seen this video?
Yeah, yeah.
This crap video.
Yeah, it's brutal.
Oh my God.
It's like, they'd like, get someone else to hold the camera.
They used a dremel to like, cut out a thing on their prototype and then they put like
a filament in here that could be anything.
They don't show us the power source, so it could be a AAA battery.
It could be a nuclear generator.
It's just the worst shot video like ever.
Why is it so green?
That's a lens filter to help you see something and something and something.
Anyway.
There's no audio, if I remember correctly.
The video on YouTube has ratings disabled and comments disabled.
Yep.
So, something, something, et cetera.
Yeah, they haven't said anything about being kicked off of Kickstarter, which is really
interesting.
Yeah.
Very, very interesting.
Well, we'll see how that turns out.
Someone just said, Scrappy Wars 3, should be 4, because 3 is already coming out, but
Scrappy Wars 3, make a laser razor.
Oh man, that's awesome.
Alright, so SuperMHL is on its way with support for 8K video.
So someone heard Linus complaining about how the heck you deliver 8K video.
And delivered SuperMHL.
Yes.
And he said, wow, let's develop all of this in less than a week.
Yep.
So, move over, standard mobile high definition link, SuperMHL is on its way and it's bringing
better video quality and support than ever before, according to the sub headline on CNET.
So the skinny is this, support for 8K 120fps, allows you to stream up to 8K AV content from
a mobile device to a TV or other display and supports up to 48 bit colour, totally unnecessary
by the way, and launched at CES 2015, so they actually went back in time, did all the work
that I asked for, and someone sent me the link just in time for it to be after I complained
that it didn't exist yet.
I really like the way that all of that timing is worked out here.
This is just kind of funny, Wired reports that Leonardo DiCaprio has snapped up film
rights to the proposed book, that is not written, about the VW emissions scandal.
So yeah, they've teamed up with Paramount to buy the rights, it will apparently be called
Too Big to Fail, and it will be something about the impact on the automotive industry
of the race to more specs and more better faster and all that kind of stuff, he's also
actually recently signed a multi-year deal with Netflix to produce environmental films.
Cool, good, there you go, do good things DiCaprio, way to go Leo, I don't know that you're actually
a super nice dude, but at least you're doing this.
This is cool, I actually submitted a review unit request, got my ass handed to me, they're
like yep, so we've chosen, I got a form letter back, they're just like so we've chosen some
key blah blah, et cetera, so you're not getting one, but hey, we'll let you know if there's
more later and also you can have a discount on buying one, which I'm not doing because
I think it's gonna be a piece of crap, but this is the Light L16 camera, and apparently
challenges DSLRs with 16 lenses in one package.
So the idea, yes, right there, you are looking at a camera that will record the image 16
different ways, allowing you to make, that sounds like a bad idea, make changes to the
image in terms of focus, in terms of a bunch of other stuff after the fact, hold on a second,
John's trying to leave the office, hold on, can you put the sponsor spots in the scripts
and save them as.txt, one, thanks, wasn't that already a technology, are they claiming
that they invented this, are they claiming they invented this, I don't think so, okay
cool, two, that just sounds like a terrible idea, yeah I mean I think the DSLR traditionalists
are gonna probably look at this and go, or you could take one photo with a big sensor
and a nice lens in front of it properly the first time, and then Taren's gonna be like
fix it in post, this is the greatest camera that's ever existed because I can fix it in
post even better, so it'll have a touch screen display on the back, it'll cost about $1300
on pre-order and when it starts shipping in the summer of 2016, it'll cost $1700, that's
assuming it works at all, and yeah, I guess I'm not really sure what else to say about
that, it's about the size of a Nexus 6, so it's not huge, which is cool, the UO LTT or
the originally unofficial, that's what UO came from, Linus Tech Tips, Darce is a conglomerate,
is going to be having a tournament thingy, there's gonna be giveaways based on your performance
in the tournament, the first giveaway is a $25 gift card, the second place is a $10 gift
card, and the third place is a $5 item from the pledge store, even if you show up, it's
just supposed to kind of be fun, so don't worry if you're not very good at shooting
and blowing stuff up, like me, I'm usually good at flying spaceships and spaceship games,
and I'm really bad at it in Star Citizen, so oh well, yeah, there's a thread on the
forum, you should go there, just look up Operation Brawl Star Citizen giveaway, and you will
find it, it's from Napper198, go check it out, go join, it should be fun, yeah.
Wow, we've got a whole bunch of stuff, Apple updated their iMac peripherals, so now there's
the Magic Mouse 2, which features a charging port on the bottom for some reason, original
article here is from Anantek, so there you go, there's also a new Magic Trackpad 2, so
everyone just freaked out about the mouse, and Magic Keyboard updated version, how bad
do you think the mouse is, because some people are just like atomic over the mouse having
to charge anything on the bottom, I think it's super stupid, where would you rather
it went, just in the very front, I liked their AA battery approach before, the great thing
about a mouse that just takes AA batteries is that it will work forever because you can
keep putting new AA batteries in it, and if you're out of battery, if you're out of battery,
you don't have to sit on ass waiting for it to charge, you can throw in some disposables
if you're in a pinch, like we use 98% rechargeable batteries at Linus Media Group, but that doesn't
mean that we don't have a bin of disposables just in case we're desperate, and the other
issue here is that many mice with internal batteries, so you can't just swap the battery
pack, have charging connector positions such that you can plug them in and use them, plugged
into the computer, on the front, so it just looks like a wired mouse, which is like what
everyone has always done forever, with that said, it charges for 9 hours of use in about
2 minutes, I think people's freakout was a little bit much, and that's exactly why, but
it's still really stupid, and it's another example of Apple just going, no, well design
is everything, so we're going to put the important things on the bottom, maybe next they'll put
the click on the bottom because it looks better without, actually they already kind of did
that when they removed the separated plastic buttons and just had the click be part of
it, there you go, the magic trackpad has a built in battery, brings force touch to the
desktop which is very cool, it's 30% larger almost than the previous trackpad and pairs
automatically with your Mac, and the magic keyboard is rechargeable battery, again via
lightning to USB, pairs automatically and better scissor mechanism under each key, increase
stability, etc etc, so there you go, some updates, some of which are dumb, some of which
are good, and some of which are just really not very important at all, what else we got
here? I think that might be about it, the iPhone 6s camera shows literally no or little
improvement over the iPhone 6, so yeah, it's fine, but so is the G4, this is from DxOMark.com,
so is the LG G4, so is the Samsung Galaxy S6, there's a lot of great smart phone cameras
out there, it's really nice that you don't have to buy an iPhone anymore, and that cell
phone cameras have kind of gotten as good as they need to be for a bit, even Apple agrees,
they didn't make it better, with that said, the 6s improves in a lot of other ways over
the 6, my review of that is up on Vessel and will be coming to YouTube soon. Are you talking
about Humble Bundle? They used to be, the reason why I brought that up is because we
used to call out what the Humble Bundle was every week, do you remember that? Yeah, back
when it was like cool and sexy. And that is the whole point of this topic, is that Humble
Bundle has let go of 20% of their staff, this is off Destructoid.com, which is 12 people,
the CEO admits that it was a little bit of an overly eager expansion, which is probably
completely true, and this is largely to do, this part isn't in the notes, but this is
largely to do with, well, back in the day we used to call out every one of their bundles
because they were sick, and they're really not that sick anymore, at the very beginning,
which you would expect a company to grow, at the very beginning they were selling a
lot of Humble Bundles, I think it was like 500-600,000 for the first sale, now they're
at like 100-200,000 for sale, which is a huge difference, and your company is as big as
he made it for, I don't actually know, I'm not in the company, but from as far as I can
tell the small amount of things that they do. Yeah, well they do book bundles, they
do game store, they have a game store, and now a subscription service, and I mean it's
not like their competitors have stood still, it's not like people, it's like, that's the
whole thing, there's a lot of bundle companies now, that's like Groupon, remember when Groupon
went super amazing, everyone thinks it's important, and then there's like a billion clone group
deal go to a restaurant for less than, because they realize how, again, I'm not in the industry
so I don't know, but how easy it probably is, a lot of these indie guys are gonna want
to be on these bundles, so if you're like, hey, bundle, they'll be like, okay, yes, please,
I don't know. There was one other thing, I don't know, do we want to do more bad news
for AMD, or should we just go easy on them? Sure. Corporate fellow Phil Rogers has left
the company after 21 years, so our original article here is from Heart OCP, so corporate
fellow, to be clear, is the highest level of technical recognition at AMD, and is reserved
for those who impact AMD's business opportunities and technical breadth by providing a high
degree of expertise, knowledge, creativity, and tactical and strategic direction. He has
gone to NVIDIA, and he is now their chief software architect for Compute Server. Moi
moi. That's a little brutal. Yeah, bummer about that. I don't know, I think that's probably
it. I think I just banned like 20 people. You know what, oh my goodness, I feel terrible.
I had promised we were gonna do the after party with the honorable mentions for the
UltraWide Festival today, and I am not, because I need to shoot three fastest possibles right
now, and I am already like tired, and it's already after six, and I have to go somewhere
after this, so I will do it, but it will not be this week. I'm gonna edit a video. Of your
mom? Yep. Actually. Yep. Alright, so see you guys next week, same bat time, same bat channel.
Bye! Get banned. Are they doing that his thing? Some of them are doing the his thing. Some
of them are posting speedtest.net or something like that. I don't think there's something
about speedtest.net. There's a lot of them. Why did they do that?