What's up everyone and welcome to the WAD show. We got a great show lined up for you guys today.
AI powered race cars. Turns out they kind of suck so far. Big surprise. Also, the supercomputer auction has completed and
spoiler, no. No, I didn't buy it and I will explain all of the reasons why
as much as I would have loved to. That didn't make any sense guys. It made absolutely no sense. What else we got today?
Uh. Really? You had all this time. I don't know. You had all this time while I made an emergency
bathroom break. Not gonna lie. I definitely focused on talking to chat instead and all of this is.
Hmm. Google Play celebrates Sonic and got every single fact about Sonic wrong? Why you gotta focus
on the negative? Because it's just funny. Why don't you go with something positive? Do we have anything
positive in the doc? I mean, Walmart is collaborating with Roblox. That's not positive. There's no way
that's positive. Uh, shrimp Jesus. But, all right, the title for that topic is Meta says no more
to spam unless it's AI spam. Nice. And then there's pictures of Jesus made out of shrimp. All right, fair
enough.
Oh.
The show is brought to you today by Vessi, Squarespace, and Manscaped. Why don't we jump right into our
headline topic? Which is, of course, the supercomputer auction. Good lord, if I had a dollar for every
single person who sent this bloody thing to me this week. You could afford it. I could have bought
it. Yeah. The Cheyenne supercomputer has sold, apparently, for $480,085 US dollars. This is for
sale by, yes, .gov, the US government. At one point, I believe it was in the top, ooh, I can't remember
exactly, but it was in the, I think it was in, like, the top 20 or top 10 supercomputers in the world or
something like that. It's about seven years old, though, now. And if you guys read a little bit more
into the details about it, you'll probably figure out why, in spite of the fact that it was looking like
it might go for as little as about $8,000 US dollars earlier in the week, I had no interest
whatsoever in bidding on this thing. See, I swear to you. If it went at eight grand and you didn't buy it,
that would have been a mistake. That would have been, that would have been maybe a mistake. That would
have definitely been a mistake. That would have been maybe a mistake, okay? We need only go as far as,
here, here, let's play a game. Let's play a game called, how far into this page do I need to read
to know what a bad idea it is to buy this thing? Cheyenne supercomputer looks good so far. Item name
can confirm. It's good when these things match. That is, yeah. The sale lot number, I mean, that looks
like a pretty lucky number. Cheyenne, Wyoming. Dude, it's 28 racks. 28 racks, all liquid cooling.
That's the E racks. The E cells, there are 14 units weighing 1,500 pounds each, and I have to get
this stuff from buttf**k Wyoming up to our warehouse where, here, let's keep reading. I will have to find
a place to store, yes, 28 rack units containing a total of 145,000 CPU cores that draw, and this is a
direct quote. This is a direct quote here. 1.7 million watts under load. Sir, are you aware
that with all of our buildings combined, we do not have enough power to actually run this thing?
Still could have bought it. Okay. If it was eight grand, you still should have bought it. We could have
salvaged it, but there are more issues. Hold on, because we can keep reading. Let's keep reading.
Moving the system necessitates the engagement of a professional moving company. In fact,
I don't believe that the buyer is even allowed on the premises, so that's something.
Yeah, because it has to be a professional. It's a data center. It's a highly secure area.
Okay, so there's that, and then, no, no, it gets even better. It gets even better. Aside from these
being outdated AF, like we're talking Haswell grade CPUs here with DDR4-2400, this thing is
flipping slow. It took a team of, I believe it was a little less than 20 dedicated engineers
to run maintenance on this thing, and... I'm not saying you should have ran it.
And they've been having issues with that maintenance to the point where they're saying,
mm-hmm, it's kind of costing more to run this thing than it's worth, because their liquid cooling
has apparently been leaking all over the place.
That'd be surprising.
This thing is a clusterf**k, and it seemed like there were some people out there who were
serious about buying a supercomputer and, like, running it.
Oh, yeah, no.
And I'm looking at this thing going, brother, if you know anything about operating a supercomputer,
you know that nobody is buying this thing to run it. $480,000 is honestly a scrap price.
Yeah, 100%.
You are ripping cabling out of it. You are ripping CPUs and memory modules. That is going straight
to eBay. You're not operating this thing, because anyone who has the kind of money to pay the
$60,000 US dollars a month that it is estimated just to put electricity in this thing's digital
veins...
And find a place that you can even get that electricity.
Don't forget the cooling. If you have that kind of money, you can afford new f**king hardware.
You are not buying somebody's, like, ratted-out Civic of a supercomputer and trying to lease
out space on it. That's just not how this works.
Six years ago, you made a video on the SFU supercomputer.
I did.
And that got 2.5 million views, and it was six years ago.
Okay, 2.5 million views. Just for context, ladies and gentlemen, in the tech vertical,
in the tech vertical, is worth about five grand. So...
Okay, but you know that's not how the math works.
No, the math is a little more favorable than that, but if I spent more than probably 50
to 100 grand on this thing, I better be profiting on the teardown of it, because otherwise I'm
in... I'm underwater.
Which gets...
I'm underwater.
I agree at that range.
Even if I make a number of videos, guys, that's not one video.
Yeah, you've got...
That's a number of videos.
I'm thinking, like, three to five videos of this.
I'm doing a series.
Yeah.
It's a pickup vlog.
We're driving to Wyoming, boys!
It's that Mr. Beast intro where the camera whips out, and you've got this huge semi behind
you.
I'm in an abandoned supercomputer!
Meanwhile, it's like six minutes from the nearest micro center.
A hundred percent.
But yeah, the other problem is if you're parting it out, you'd have to part it out, like, in
the States.
Oh, yeah.
And you'd have to film all your content in the States.
Yeah, what I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna import this mess?
Yeah.
You gotta be kidding me.
There's no way.
There's no way.
It was a fun thing to dream about.
It's one of those things where it's like, oh, man, wouldn't it be cool to open a gaming
hotel or start a, you know, a gaming peripheral business?
Or, you know, like, oh, I had a, I had a cool idea and a fever dream, and I woke up in the
middle of the night and went, oh, wait, a half a million dollars for what is essentially
a gigantic pile of leaky e-waste.
Yeah, there's no way at that point.
No, it doesn't make, it doesn't make any sense.
But, but you know what?
I definitely, I, oh, I didn't think of that.
What?
Travis Social in the float plane chat.
You could write it off.
I could.
Free content.
I could, I could have written it off.
And gotten like five videos.
I could.
I've made a terrible mistake.
You gotta think harder, man.
Um, I, I, there's like almost no chance, but if the person who bought it reached out,
would you like do any content on it?
I mean, yeah, I'd be super down.
Yeah.
Yeah, of course.
All right, people.
Let's figure out who the heck bought this.
Realistically.
It probably has some, yeah.
Yeah, there's, there's no, this is, this is basically one of those like e-computer shop
dot whatever, like eBay stores and they're, they're, they're ripping it apart.
There's, there's no way that anybody is actually going to try to operate this thing.
It is woefully out of date.
Their high RAM units have 256 gigs.
I mean, there are gaming PCs out there, albeit not many, but there are gaming PCs out there
that have 256 gigs of RAM in them these days.
Like this is not, this is not aged well and especially it has not aged well with the way
that the workloads for these supercomputers have evolved in the last seven years.
There is a reason this is being decommissioned.
This thing is a CPU supercomputer, which ladies and gentlemen is not how they build them right
now.
It, as far as I could tell, didn't really have any GPU compute units in it.
Um, it's also not designed with systems, even that SFU supercomputer that I checked out
six years ago had systems that had a terabyte or two terabytes or something of memory in them.
They were, they were either four-way or eight-way CPU systems so that they could have these gigantic
pools of memory so that they could work on extremely large data sets.
As far as I can tell, Cheyenne didn't have any such nodes and didn't have any such capabilities.
So as data sets have grown and as the need for GPU compute, um, for these, for these supercomputing
systems has grown, it has, it has become not just out of date in terms of the, the, how long
it's been since the hardware was released, but it has become outdated in terms of the overall
design philosophy of the system in terms of the architecture of the system.
Um, it just didn't make any sense, but, uh, that could be kind of a fun video was a lot of fun.
Oh, it apparently does have 184 GPUs.
Schraff says 73 RTX 4090s outperform this machine.
It could be kind of a fun video to like try to build, like set up a, like we, we built the
like Cheyenne supercomputer.
That's actually, that's a really good idea.
And if I'd thought of it, we probably would have gotten started on that this week.
I do wonder if we've missed the moment a little bit at this point.
Maybe like if we had thrown the auction's actually over.
Yeah.
If we'd thrown together a cluster, uh, just of like random, random motherboards and just
loaded up as many GPUs as we could have and frigging like, like ethernet cabled them together
and been like, okay, I bought a supercomputer, but it isn't what you think.
It isn't that one.
Oh, that'd be pretty funny.
But yeah, it's, it probably missed the mark a little bit.
Yep.
A hundred, 1,680 petaflops.
I mean, yeah, what's a, what's a, what's a, what's a 7950 X, uh, petaflops.
Oh my goodness.
What is my, what is my browser doing?
Do I look old enough that I need that?
Um, yeah, it doesn't say, I guess that would be, uh, that would be teraflops.
Here, let's try it.
Let's try teraflops.
I don't know.
I don't know how many flops it has.
How many, how many flops you got boys?
Turns out nobody cares about the flops of CPUs anymore.
All right.
Well, whatever.
I'm over it.
Okay.
Why don't we move on to our next topic?
What do you want to talk about?
Uh, mostly, mostly your topics, but.
Sure.
Let's see what, let's do the, you have, you have Tarkov update in here.
What's up with that?
Oh, I was just wondering what happened.
I haven't been paying attention to it.
What I realized was that we talk about really bad news in the community sometimes, and we
don't really come back and revisit it the following week to see if like maybe something went
better.
Like back when we were talking about the problems I was having with my, uh, with my light
switches and, and we, we did ultimately do an update where we were like, oh yeah, the company
has actually done the right thing and released the firmware, uh, JASCO, that's, that's who
they are.
And I realized we, we don't always come back and say, Hey, they did a really positive thing
and everything's going good now, which from the look on your face, I'm thinking probably
isn't what we're about to discuss.
So what's Battlestate Games been up to this week?
No need this time.
Uh, they, they, there's been multiple attempts at addressing the issue.
Um, there, there's a bunch of things.
There's certain things that we didn't get to address last time, like them editing their
website.
Did we talk about that?
No.
So they, they edited their website to take certain wording away from different versions
that they had had in the past, which would have made what they're currently doing, like
not okay.
So what I would like to know is, are they aware of archive.org?
Yeah.
Like apparently not because they know that that exists, that that's definitely a thing that
exists.
They were asked in an interview after they did it.
Have they heard of that?
They were asked in an interview after they did it, if they had done it and they said no.
So I actually think maybe no, cause they don't realize that people can prove that they did
it, which is, uh, that's pretty funny.
I mean, pretty great.
Aren't they, are, are they Russia based?
Oh, it's one of those.
Yeah.
It's complicated.
The company is technically incorporated as far as my understanding goes in the UK.
Right.
Um, but where, what, you know, what, where are their devs based?
It's a Russian company.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I mean, in fairness to them, then in Russia, you can just disappear things and they
stay disappeared.
Uh, yeah, unfortunately it's the interwebs.
Um, so that didn't work out so great.
Uh, there's been multiple updates and I don't know if all of them are super findable anymore,
but essentially we've progressively gotten to where we are now.
Uh, where are we now?
Is this a new update that I haven't even seen?
Have they done a complete 180 and agreed to give everyone who bought the $150 edition,
the, the $250 unheard edition?
Like, like is, are they actually doing what they said they would do in the first place?
So sort of, except in the meantime, they kind of made it worse.
Oh, brilliant.
So, so anyone who whistle, whistle blew from inside battle state games got disappeared.
Like, uh, like as if they were talking about airplanes.
See, I love that you use the term whistle blow because they added a weird new device into
the game.
Um, that they're calling the legacy device.
Now remember, this is supposed to be a Tarkov for people that don't play.
The legacy device?
Yeah, I don't know why it's called that, but.
Like it's a, like it's an item?
Yeah.
An in-game item.
Like you carry it or it's a gun or like, what is it?
Some form of in-game.
They just say unique item with call-in mechanics and I'll explain the call-in mechanics in a
second.
Can I just say for a moment that the moment Call of Duty died for me was the second that
you could just order airstrikes?
Oh yeah.
And take out your, what was that, COD 4?
Or Modern Warfare?
The original Modern Warfare.
Original Modern Warfare.
I played it for like two weeks and I was like, this is f***ing stupid.
I'm sorry, you don't even have to point your gun at the other guy yet?
I mean, as gamers, as gamers, we've reached the point where we even like being slack-jawed
in our desk like this, moving the mouse to click the head of the other guy is too much
work.
That's unheard edition Tarkov players.
All right, fine.
Okay, so, so, so you got this item.
Okay, so, but yeah, before, before we get to that, just in case people don't know about
Tarkov so much, it's an extremely hardcore game.
Yeah.
It's supposed to have, you know, a touch of realism.
It's still a video game, so it's supposed to be fun, but there's supposed to be a touch
of realism.
Yeah, but like you reload, you can't just like shoot two rounds and then like throw in a
new magazine and like magically the rounds teleported from the new one to the old one.
You like took out a magazine that now has 28 rounds in it and you put in one with 30.
Like you, and that one still has 28 in it.
Like even if you have loose rounds in your pockets, like it's, yeah, it's, it's a, it's
a very, very hardcore game.
And if you die in that game, you lose nearly everything on you.
There's a couple small slots that you can retain, but almost everything that was on you
is, is now permanently gone.
Except as we talked about last week, the unheard edition, this new $250 edition, you can call
in like teammate reinforcements with one of their abilities.
So like you can be in a raid, say, say I was playing and then you jumped in discord.
I could be like, Oh, Hey, and then I could call you into the raid that I'm currently playing.
The biggest problem with that by an enormous amount is that cheaters, they'll often sell
their services because there's been a decent amount of stuff that's been put in place.
So you can have cheater Sherpas.
Because yeah, so the cheaters can clear the whole lobby and then you just go pick up the
pieces and you just, yeah.
And that's definitely how it's going to be used.
That's, and they'll sell a lot of unheard editions to cheaters that they'll then ban
later and then we'll buy more unheard editions.
That'll totally happen.
Because now there's a commercial incentive to own unheard edition.
Yeah.
Cause you can sell people loot more easily and faster and kind of on their demand.
And if they're looking for a particular item, that's really rare, you could have like a
list of clients that want different things, go into raids, clear them, check the loot, and
then call in the people that need the particular items.
Like it's, it's really bad and a disgustingly terrible idea.
Now that was already, we already knew about that.
That was already a thing.
Yeah.
Now they're like trying to say sorry.
So they're like, okay, edge of darkness owner.
So this is the, the people that bought this really expensive copy of the game.
$150 copy of the game.
Most people bought this because it said you get all future DLC for free.
Yes.
So it was like, I'm buying into this game.
I have, this was my like effectively lifetime license.
It's like buying a Plex lifetime pass or like, yeah, yeah, sure.
It's more expensive than it like probably should be, but you get all this stuff later.
Sure.
But it's not priced ridiculously compared to other lifetime licenses for as a service products.
So I can, I can at least kind of see where people are coming from with this one.
Yeah.
Now they released this new version.
You don't get everything.
So they're frustrated.
So they said, okay, we're going to give, you know, the co-op PVE mode to edge of darkness
people.
That was a big issue.
They're like, we're going to do it in waves, whatever, but it is coming to you guys.
And a lot of the other things that they announced for the unheard edition, not everything,
but a lot of it, they're like, okay, we're going to give it to edge of darkness people.
And then they have this random line that says unique item with call in mechanics, legacy
device, ability to call in a friendly BTR.
Once called, the item will go on cooldown.
A BTR is, um, if you don't immediately know what that is.
I'm sorry.
I don't know what a BTR is.
It's one of these.
Are you kidding me?
So basically they're turning Tarkov into like, like what?
I can't even, I can't.
Yeah.
Into like COD.
Like how does that make any sense?
You want to be, imagine you're in a fight with someone.
Yeah.
And you're like, they have some pretty hard cover.
You have some pretty hard cover, but you're, you're trying to go at each other.
And then you just hear this like legacy device pop off and you're like, well, I guess a armored
vehicle is going to come and wipe me out in this game.
Which, and like other people have pointed out, not only is this a ridiculously egregious
pay to win mechanic, like obviously, because the lower, more basic tiers of the game don't
get this, but it's also makes no sense for the lore of the game at all.
Yeah.
Because you're supposed to be like completely cut off from command and all this other
kind of stuff.
And now you're calling in like an armored vehicle.
And for whatever reason, it gets loaded onto like a SpaceX rocket.
And arrives immediately.
Yeah.
I just, the whole thing is like, what a clown show.
I don't know.
It's, it's, it doesn't seem like it would have been that hard to fix this, but now they've
screwed up fixing it so many times that now I think it's going to be very difficult to
try to fix this.
There's also, because now they've promised this stupid truck.
Yeah.
And so anyone they promised it to now wants it because let's face it, pay to win, pay
to win game mechanics work because losers, no offense, losers buy them so that they can
not have to get good or whatever.
However, and look, like, look, look, I'm not the kind of person that's going to sit and
be all sweaty at a game and it'd be like, get good, pay to win.
If a game is just really hard and the community is like super into it and intense.
It's, I'm also not going to pay to be competitive.
Like, oh, my bullets do two times as much damage or whatever.
Like, no, I understand that at some point I'm going to kind of age out of being able
to play whatever the hippest e-sports game is.
And I'm, I'm just not going to be competitive at it.
And no, you don't have to give me like a, like a, oh, I heard you spend eight hours out
of your day working instead of just playing video games here.
How about we just take half of what you made today so that you can feel like a big shot
against the kid, like what, what even is this?
What twisted mindset is making people buy these mechanics?
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's demented to me.
I mean, the real solution, the proper solution is better matchmaking.
Obviously just have the casual dads.
Often they're like crappy server where they can just spray and pray all over the place
and then put all the skilled players in the, in the same, in the same lobby.
Like it's, it's very doable and some games do it very well.
But I guess it's more work and it's less lucrative and people will give you money for these kinds
of silly upgrades.
So I guess that's why it keeps perpetuating.
And again, it comes back to what we said last week, guys, don't give them money for it.
Like, man, grow a backbone.
Good Lord gamers.
But, but those people who buy into those mechanics now that battle state has promised it, well,
their backs to a wall.
Now their game's just f***ing ruined.
Yeah.
Because unless they give it to everyone, then it's not fair.
And once they do give it to everyone, it's modern warfare.
Then the game's ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, well, now we need an escalation point.
I paid $250 for my addition to the game and now you gave this stupid truck to everybody.
Well, now I need a satellite death laser.
Because otherwise, what's the point of me paying $250?
Oh, did someone find it?
What now?
Oh, no.
I think they, yeah, they Rickrolled me.
Oh, I got wrecked.
No!
Nice.
Okay.
So there's some interview with him, with Nikita, the, like, I think he's the COO, but
he's the main person that talks publicly.
There's some interview with him from a long time ago.
I can't find it right now.
I swear I'm not hallucinating this.
But, um, he's, he's talking about how, uh, cheaters, he had like a, a, a realization
that cheaters are actually a good thing for your game because when your player base is
like stressed out and uncomfortable with the cheater situation, it increases what he
calls donations.
And I'm like, wow, you know what?
Donations?
This kind of makes a lot of sense.
What's a donation?
I think, I think that's when he used to make mobile games.
So I think he was talking about like, uh, pay to win mechanics.
They're going to buy them more if there's cheaters in the game.
Oh my God.
I'm not a hundred percent certain.
I'm trying to find the interview, but I can't find it right now.
I know it was on the subreddit before, but I'm having a hard time trying to find it.
That is, that actually hurts my brain.
You have successfully hurt my brain.
This whole thing is like that.
Look, it's Friday and you hurt my brain.
It's a good time.
You can recover before the week starts.
Why would you do that to me?
What did I do to you?
I hate that so much.
So, so, so hold on, hold on.
Tinfoil hat, tinfoil hat coming on right now.
Cheating exists in video games to sell microtransactions.
So I have to say, one, I need to actually find this video and two, it's a translation from
Russian.
Right.
So the translation could be wrong.
Right.
So like, I don't know a hundred percent.
Oh, did people just find it?
I think they did.
Am I getting Rick rolled again?
This is not what I'm talking about.
Not the text interview.
Okay.
It's a, there's a video.
Anyways, we don't have to try to hunt it down, but there's a, so there's, there's some
very active communities forming right now.
This is cool though, actually.
I don't know how much we want to go into it.
I don't know.
A lot.
Okay.
Right.
I mean, is there a downside?
I'm wondering if they can issue like takedowns for it or anything, even talking about it.
It's not like these guys, what, what issue takedown for the WAN show?
Yeah.
If Battlestate wants to take down the WAN show, you know what?
That's fine.
I'll go to, I'll go toe to toe.
I got no problem with that.
All right.
What are they going to, what are they going to do?
What kind of, what kind of.
I don't know, I just don't know how it works.
Under what authority would some stupid fucking Russian entity take down our podcast?
Like, you got to be kidding me.
In order for play.
Yes.
This is the interview.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
We found it.
Hold on.
This interview, there we go.
So the post is in order for players to donate, you need to keep them in a state of discomfort.
This is a very old, you can see Moscow 2015.
Yeah.
So 2015 is, if I remember correctly, technically when Tarkov started.
But this is as they're, so they're pivoting off of like the mobile game.
They used to make some game called contract wars, which is either like a mobile game or
a browser game or something.
I don't remember what.
And then they pivoted into escape from Tarkov.
And this is like, as that pivot is kind of happening.
Um, he talks about, yeah.
Cheaters are always such a serious thing.
Yeah.
Come on.
Get to your revelation.
Both ways.
Okay.
I'll say it.
Good Lord.
For me, it was honestly a revelation.
How you perceive it is of course your business.
If there are a lot of cheaters.
So what?
People just assume cheaters make other players uncomfortable.
So they just assume their advantage is that they had.
The main rule is to donate.
You need to keep the player in a state of discomfort.
The main rule is to donate.
So like his, his point is if your players are uncomfortable, they're going to try to
like get an edge, pay to get advantages, to get an edge, stuff like that.
Oh my God.
Not great.
Again, I don't know the full context of that interview.
The translation might be wrong.
There's a lot of things that could be potentially wrong with that.
I wouldn't take that as like a 100% thing.
Be careful there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't fall for misinformation.
So when a full plane chat is saying the translation is accurate, but like we, I don't, I don't know.
We generally trust float plane pretty good.
It's probably.
Yeah.
Float plane chat's usually pretty reliable.
I mean, I wouldn't trust Twitch chat as far as I could throw them and they're literally
digital.
They have no weight whatsoever.
I could throw them very far.
Yeah.
I could throw them very far.
That is unless we have to account for wind resistance, but I'm going to assume this is
a grade 11 physics final.
So I don't have to.
Assume the cow is spherical.
Exactly.
It's a rigid body cow.
It's dead.
There are multiplayer host it yourself, play with your friends things happening.
Very, very actively right now for Tarkov.
I have seldom seen this much dedication and action on a project.
It's, it's moving very, very fast.
There's some videos on YouTube of people playing it.
I'll have no fury, like gamers scorned.
Oh yeah.
Truly.
And a bunch of extremely hardcore gamers scorned as well.
Yeah.
Um, cause the, the dedication to this is mad.
I mean, obviously if they're going to sell $150, okay.
So the fact that the community is so outraged and so universally outraged over $150 version
of the game means that let's do the math.
A significant number of them bought it.
Cause if nobody bought it, people have been like, yeah, whatever.
That silly $150 version of the game that nobody bought.
Who cares?
But no, this is a game that people are invested in.
Yeah.
And that's dangerous.
And I don't even think honestly.
For battle state, I don't care.
If, if that edge of darkness edition thing was originally $250, I bet you like a ton of people.
Yeah.
People would have been upset, but they would have bought it.
They would have bought it.
I do think the truck would have been a line.
Yes.
I think the truck still would have been a line.
The truck is a big line.
The call in people to raid thing is a big line.
That's ridiculous.
And then going back on your word is a big line.
Those, those three things is what has crushed this community.
But the community defies.
The community is not crushed.
The community made their own Tarkov basically by having a bunch of single.
So single player Tarkov SPT has been a thing for a long time.
Yeah.
Um, but it was, you know, single, single player.
There's a bunch of mods for it though, that you can make the game so much better than the
multiplayer experience.
Right.
But it was just a single player experience.
Now there's Fika, a multiplayer mod.
Uh, and I've seen some videos.
I have genuinely not touched this, but I've seen some videos of people playing and it looks
smooth and there isn't a lot of like, you know, uh, desync between the players that it,
it looks like at least as good as live, as far as I can tell, watching other people's
gameplay of the, you know, the synchronization of the two players or multiple other players
playing in the game.
And then some of the mods for single player Tarkov work with the multiplayer mod.
So you can just make your own Tarkov that's better in all the ways, except for blackjack.
There isn't PVP, but the active PVP and Tarkov is so over riddled by cheaters that it's like,
it's kind of a non-factor.
You just cut that, cut that limb off, you know, it's probably fine.
Um, so that's, that's, that's pretty cool.
In other gaming news, we do have another actually very big topic.
Yeah.
I won bro versus bro.
Okay.
We can go there.
That's a big top.
No, no, no, no, no.
We can't.
I'm down.
Or we can talk about how Helldivers now will not let you play.
Yeah.
They're getting a view bomb now, right?
Yeah.
I have not kept up with this at all.
Other than that chat will not stop talking about Helldivers.
Not going to lie.
That's the main reason why I know about it.
When did this even happen?
It must've happened.
Like, yeah, all the articles are from today.
So this is like very, very new.
Uh, pirate software is apparently popping off about it.
Um, yeah, not good from, from my understanding.
It has shown as a requirement on their steam page the whole time that you need a PSN,
but it wasn't enforced the whole time.
Oh, so do you, so to play on PC, you need a PlayStation network account now.
I mean, it wasn't required before though.
I see.
So people have played this whole time and here's the spicy part.
Cause at first I was like, that's really annoying, but I didn't fully, fully understand
it.
And then pirate software's tweet made me fully understand it.
Uh, there are certain countries.
So, uh, where did this go?
Oh, where PSN's just straight up not available?
Something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pirate software says for all those, here, I'll go to my, uh, all of those saying to just
make a PSN account, bro.
If you've been playing Helldivers 2 and do not live in one of these listed countries,
you cannot make a PSN account.
Choosing a country you do not live in is a violation of Sony's TOS and could lead to
account termination.
Then again, like what, what is the drawback of that account being terminated?
Does it matter?
Well, you can't play.
Right.
But then couldn't you just registered on a different PSN account?
You tied your steam account.
So you're effectively banned from the game.
Yeah, that's bad.
Yeah.
Super bad.
So like there, there's going to be a bunch of people that this happens to.
So this is just objectively not a good thing at that point because there's people that
were playing, no problem, just fine.
Probably loving the game because it's a great game.
And they rolled a patch.
They rolled a patch.
And now they can't.
Yeah.
And you shouldn't just like suddenly require a new account sign up once the game's been
out for like months.
Well, they didn't suddenly require it.
They suddenly enforced it.
Suddenly enforce it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fair enough.
And it is up to you whether to enforce your rules or not.
However, that's a pretty, that's a pretty crappy rule.
It seems unnecessary given that obviously they didn't have it before and it clearly
wasn't necessary.
Yeah.
I mean, this is, that's obviously part of their agreement with Sony, I guess, so that
they can farm your data.
I believe it's a Sony published game or something.
Yeah, that's tough.
Something.
I'm not 100% sure.
I mean, it does seem like, like an easy solution to this would be to, oh man, what is the easy
solution?
Because there's no way Sony's going to just like suddenly allow you to register from a
different country.
How on earth are they going to fix this?
I have no idea.
Because there's no way Sony's going to let them out of that requirement.
I don't think they're going to roll it back.
They obviously would have known that this was going to generate a bunch of backlash.
Maybe they underestimated how angry gamers can be.
I bet you, honestly, even they didn't consider this angle that Pirate Software pointed out.
Because the initial one is kind of annoying.
And I can understand, honestly, some people boycotting it because like, oh, you make me
get this new account.
How dare you?
I don't personally care that much.
But the second you're going to block out people.
I mean, there's people that will be like mad that you're doing a giveaway because you
have to have a Twitter account.
And they're like, oh, well, I don't have one.
And it's like, bro, Twitter's free.
Well, I want them to have my information.
Bro, make a Proton mail account.
Who gives a shit?
Just put in some fake information.
But it's like, it's on principle for these people, right?
So I could see someone just like on principle refusing to create a Sony account.
Like, I get it.
But this is much worse.
This is much, much worse.
The second it comes down to our, you know, our fellow democracy spreaders potentially
no longer being able to play the game.
That's where a line has been crossed for me.
Apparently you have to tie your phone number to Twitter now.
Good Lord.
What a crappy platform.
You can probably put a fake one in.
No, because they probably send you a text.
Oh, you think so?
Yeah, probably.
That's stupid.
I used to put the White House for my address for like almost everything.
Nice.
It just worked all the time.
I almost always use 90210 as a zip code whenever I register for anything American.
There you go.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like, you have to put in an address and I'm like, well, I'm Canadian.
There's no dropdown for Canada.
It only allows US.
Well, I guess I live at the White House now.
There's, there is probably junk mail addressed to me that has shown up to the White House.
I thought about that not that long ago.
Who the fuck is this Luke Lafreniere?
That would actually be kind of hilarious prank.
Signing the White House up for like magazine subscriptions and stuff.
I just thought you guys might want this.
You gotta know, right?
I'm just trying to imagine like what would be some, what would be some fun subscriptions?
You just, you gotta know this happens so much that it's probably like dull at this point.
Apparently it goes to an offsite facility for processing for security reasons.
That makes a ton of sense.
But yeah, I, we were, oh, apparently I missed Ludwig in the YouTube chat.
Oh, that's a bummer.
Oh, wait.
No one cares, Linus.
Stop something.
All right.
Hey, thanks Ludwig.
Thanks for showing up.
Oh, this must have been because I was talking about bro versus bro.
Nice.
Okay.
Well, should we just do that now?
Nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was fun.
I went down to LA for a number of events.
Now that it's, now that it's over, I don't have any sort of security concerns about it.
So I, I attended the retirement party for MatPat.
He is, is no longer working at Game Theorist.
That doesn't mean he's no longer going to work at all.
He seemed to be in very good spirits.
I don't know him especially well or anything like that, but we've talked a couple of times.
Obviously I have a ton of respect for his work and he seems like one of those people
that you meet in person and you're like, all right, well, you know, don't take this
the wrong way, but I think I had the full experience of meeting you and getting your
deal from watching your videos.
And to be clear, obviously, you know, he'll say things off camera that he wouldn't say
on camera.
But if you watch MatPat's videos and you're like, wow, he seems like a likable dude, then
I think you'll meet him in person and think, wow, he seems like a likable dude.
A very, very genuine guy.
He and Steph, absolutely fantastic.
I've done a ton for the platform.
I've done a ton for the community.
So I was very honored to be able to be down there for that.
And then since I was heading down, that was actually the thing that instigated my trip.
I was like, holy shnikes.
I've been supposed to do a bro versus bro with Ludwig forever.
Yeah.
He came up here and did that collab with us.
And I told him at the time, I was like, I owe you one.
Thank you very much.
That was absolutely fantastic.
Any time, by the way.
And he's like, by the way, I'm in LA.
And I was like, heck yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Heck yeah.
Right.
So I'm OK.
I'm coming down to LA.
Can we make this work?
Can we try and put these two things together?
And then stars aligned.
And I ended up doing one more thing while I was down there.
So on the Tuesday, I shot a video in collaboration with HP Enterprise and Kioxia.
Do you know about this?
I know some amount about it.
On the Spaceborne 2 computer.
Oh.
So they rented.
And I kid you not.
This is apparently.
Don't quote me on this because who knows.
Sometimes people just like they talk shit and like, you know, they talk a big game, but
it's actually whatever.
But apparently the set that they rented was at least a piece of the same one that they
used on Big Bang Theory when Wolowitz goes to the ISS.
So I'm in this like ISS looking set.
And then they have a couple of the actual machines that were just sent up to the ISS.
And I think it was February of this year.
And we talk about all the things about them that are custom for space, all the things
about them that are not space hardened in any way whatsoever.
Some of the experiments that they've done over the years, some of the benefits of having
this processing on board on the International Space Station versus having the processing done.
I mean, yeah, I guess they can have a cloud.
They can have cloud computing from up there.
They just beam it down instead of up.
Right.
Versus reverse cloud.
Versus having processing done in the cloud.
So that's going to be a super cool video.
So we shot that on the Tuesday and then I came back up Tuesday night.
But the highlight of the trip, the absolute highlight of the trip for me was participating
in Bro vs. Bro.
What's really funny about this is I don't...
Just one, before you get into the Bro vs. Bro, I was going to show you, but there's
not really much there.
But the reason why I knew that that happened was because my friend person from NASA...
Oh, yeah.
...that got me to go down there and then now I just, like, play games with them for fun.
He sent me a message and was like, uh, how'd you guys do this?
It was a screenshot of the, like, ASCII art.
It was like, what?
And I was like, hold on.
What is this?
We're not going to spoil what we beamed to the ISS.
Okay, okay, okay.
But we did.
We did get...
We got certain access and we definitely beamed a message to the International Space Station.
Also, they're still interested in potentially doing a video on Mission Control Center design
and stuff like that.
I think it would be really good.
So anyway, what's really funny about Bro vs. Bro with Ludwig was that having...
I don't watch a lot of YouTube and I've been very open about this in the past.
I'm not trying to be, like, an a**hole or anything like that.
You, like, not know what it was?
It's just the truth.
Well, don't you remember on WAN Show when I essentially pitched a gaming challenge with
him after he said, I will beat Linus at literally any game.
And I pitched a gaming challenge that was essentially Bro vs. Bro.
Yeah, I think I remember that.
Yeah, I had no idea at the time.
I wasn't doing a bit.
I didn't know it existed.
I believe you because I know you don't watch YouTube.
You just read the comments.
Exactly.
So Bro vs. Bro is his format where each of the two competitors brings some advantage games
into the game pool.
Yeah.
And then there are also some neutral games in the game pool.
So the neutral games are Battleship, Tetris, for this one anyway, Pong, and Rock, Paper,
Scissors.
Yeah.
And then we each brought our own advantage games.
He brought Bireo Kart.
Oh, shoot.
What were his other advantage games?
I remember that one well because he-
Was GeoGuessr one of his?
GeoGuessr was one of them.
Yep.
And then he also brought Tekken.
Tekken 8.
Oh, okay.
I didn't see that.
And then my advantage games were Towerfall, Beat Saber, and Drunken Fight Simulator.
Which, if you remember-
You didn't pick Halo?
If you remember, is a game that you and I played-
Yeah, I remember.
One time, four years ago.
Why would you pick that?
When we had a gaming night where we decided we were going to play something fresh.
This was very fun, actually.
And we sorted the entire Steam store by price low to high and just started buying the cheapest games.
Barrow.
Yeah, Barrow, Barrow 2020.
Let's go.
Barrow was sick.
Drunken Fight Simulator was sick.
We played some Disc Jam.
That was actually pretty fun.
Legitimately fun before the servers got all shut down.
Don't buy it now.
Waste of money now.
The servers don't work.
If you want a fun game to buy now that is kind of in this realm of silly, entertaining games,
tape to tape.
Yeah, we're having a blast with that.
Genuinely, actually very fun.
And like, pretty well made.
So check it out.
So anyway, so I brought Drunken Fight Simulator to the fight.
Beautiful.
So that's our pool of 10 games.
And the way the format works is you kick off with a rock, paper, scissors, which he didn't show.
Which is a shame, actually, because it was part of the reason why I led the way that I did in the rock, paper, scissors.
The final rock, paper, scissors.
In the rock, paper, scissors that ended up deciding it was because I figured he wouldn't expect me to do the same thing again.
But he was actually playing a completely different mind game with me.
Now, I have to admit something.
Ludwig, if you're watching this, one of the best gamers I know, even if she's not too good with a controller or a keyboard and mouse,
and she hasn't played a lot of video games, is my wife.
And one of the things that she does is she will be constantly, even when she is very clearly in a dominant position on the board,
constantly talking about how she doesn't really know what she's doing and she's just kind of doing stuff.
Have you ever played a strategy game with that woman?
I don't think so.
I vowed 15 years ago, at some point during a family game night, that I would never play Risk with her again.
Never.
Because, because she has, like, you know me, I'm pretty intense.
Yeah.
And I'll be like, I'll be like...
I have to warn people before we play video games with you.
Yeah, I'll, like, start, I'll start to call shots on the board.
I'll be like, okay, so everyone can see right now that player A is in a position where, look,
I can't do anything about any of this because I'm stuck in bloody South America where you people exiled me.
But they are about to take over Asia and their borders are completely ready to be fortified.
And if you or you don't do anything, this game is over.
Or, like, I'm very like that.
He's good at inciting action from others.
Well, no, I'm not.
Because nobody likes that guy.
Oh.
So, so Yvonne will be just like, she'll apologize when she attacks people and stuff.
Oh.
So she'll be the nice person.
Gotcha.
That doesn't say anything other than, yeah, sorry, I'm not really, I'm not really sure how to play this game.
I don't really know what I'm doing.
Sorry, I took over all your places.
So I have to admit, Ludwig, during the Rock, Paper, Scissors match, I was, I was taking a page out of my wife's book a little bit.
Got it.
Like I, and to be clear, to be clear.
So you had a strategy.
What I said, what I said was true.
I don't know Rock, Paper, Scissors meta.
Like, I don't, I don't know.
I was looking it up, I was looking it up later, and apparently, statistically, Scissors is the least common throw, for example.
Men have a tendency to throw rock first.
And there's like.
Of course we do.
Men, there's, there's all these f***ing, like, mind games and stuff.
So when he's, when he's telling me things like, you sick f***, who throws that there?
Like, I legitimately didn't, I didn't know why that was a weird thing to do or whatever.
Yeah.
But what I was definitely trying to do was I was.
I'm a bit of a rock thrower myself.
Was I was trying to get in his head.
Yeah.
Is I was, I was, I wasn't trying to figure out what he would do.
That was how I lost the first two.
You're trying to figure out what he thought you would do?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I was trying to figure out.
What does he think?
Because, because I, I don't know, I haven't, I've only hung out with him a couple times now, and both times professionally.
Like, we don't know each other super well or anything.
Yeah.
So his entire experience with me is both relatively recent and relatively short.
So all I had to do was think about absolutely everything he knows about me and try and figure out what he thought I would do and then try and get one ahead of it.
And so ultimate, ultimately, you know, spoiler alert, but it's definitely still worth watching.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, I don't know how you were confident.
He messages me right after and he's like.
Never lost hope.
Never lost hope.
How could you not have lost hope when we were 4-4 in our final game and then rock, paper, scissors was best of five.
I was down 2-0.
How could you possibly not have lost hope at that point?
But rock, paper, scissors is like that.
Rock, paper, scissors is a super swingy game.
Yeah, I guess.
Because people will like, if you like fall on your back foot and rock, paper, scissors, you'll just like chain bad ideas.
But that didn't even happen.
I counted.
It took us, I think it was either 12 or 13 to have five winners.
I don't know if that is normal, but it doesn't, it didn't feel normal.
I think it's pretty normal.
It felt kind of insane.
There's a huge amount of rock, paper, scissors games that I've been involved in.
I'm making this sound like I do this often, which is not true, just to be clear.
But like people will throw the same thing all the time.
Super common.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
And that's the other thing that I said that was true, by the way, Ludwig.
Like I actually don't, I don't really play, which he's not going to be happier hearing me say right now.
Cause he got like, he seemed, he seemed a little upset about me beating him at things and being like, I don't play this.
You don't play that many games.
Yeah.
I mean, it is true.
You used to play a lot.
When I was going through trying to find my advantage games though, man.
Why didn't you pick Halo?
Why didn't you pick Supreme Commander?
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, there were a couple of factors.
Remember, I'm an entertainer.
Yeah.
I'm not going to pick Supreme Commander.
Yeah, Subcom would not have been fun.
Yeah, that's not, that's not engaging for the audience.
Just like watching someone not know how to play an RTS.
And like the most complicated RTS.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's not.
It's up there.
It's, I wouldn't say it's the most complicated necessarily, but it's definitely kind of arcane.
Like the way that it works is fundamentally different from the normal way that an RTS works.
Okay.
That's a better way.
You mine materials and then you use them to make something.
In Supreme Commander, you have a continuous economy of income and, uh, and use and you
have to balance them.
Yeah.
So it's just, it's a little.
It's weird.
Different to wrap your brain around.
Um, so that would not have been entertaining at all.
He would have had like two things and I would have stormed in with an army and just blown
it all up.
Um, as for why not.
You tried to push for content a little bit.
As for why not Halo.
They had only one computer there.
We weren't in their main studio.
We were, cause I was realistically, I think what he really wanted was to have me down
there for the yard, their podcast.
And then, well, I mean, what, we're going to like go do that in that studio and then
go do like bro versus bro in a different studio.
Like it doesn't make sense.
Right.
So we, I, we kind of had to throw together what we had with what we had.
Sure.
So if you watch the archive of the live stream, which I think is unlisted now, I don't know
if he links it anywhere, but it's like much longer and has a lot of technical difficulties
and stuff like that.
It's funny.
The number of comments that I see, like what's with all the technical difficulties, as long
as even technical, like, like people like actually mad about it.
I'm like, I'm a guest.
What?
I'm going to like, I'm going to diagnose their capture card.
No, I'm going to sit and patiently interact with chat.
And come on, you guys, what do you think this is?
There's also like, do you go into someone's house for dinner and like start cooking the meal
for them?
Like, I don't care if you're a chef.
That's fucking rude.
Like, what's your problem?
Jeez.
It's also, I mean, we have technical difficulties all the time.
Yeah, exactly.
Stuff can happen.
Like if you've ever done anything in your life, you know that things don't necessarily
always work the way they're supposed to.
Yeah.
It's like, man, that's some A plus backseat driving right there.
So how do you miss Abbotsford?
You know, what's funny is I even, okay.
You know, those doors that all the new houses have been installing with like the windows
like this down the, I saw one and I was like, I have no idea how common they are.
For all I know, they're super trendy just in general, more broadly, but I saw it and
I was like, man, that looks exactly like those doors that like my neighbor just installed
and every new housing development locally has.
I wanted so badly.
So this is GeoGuessr Canada.
He challenged me to GeoGuessr Canada.
I was on my home turf, which is, you know, if you're pushing for content, which I think
you both do, which is good.
That's one way to take an advantaged game for him and make it more interesting.
Because I've never played GeoGuessr.
Yeah.
I've literally never played GeoGuessr.
But as someone who has not a lot, but a buddy of mine and I will play every once in a while.
Hi, Bobby.
But a buddy and I will play.
And Canada actually very rarely comes up.
So even if he plays a lot, he probably doesn't see a ton of Canada.
So it's like, yeah, it's a cool mix.
Anyway, a location came up that was probably about 30 to 50 miles from home for me.
Like it was embarrassing that I guessed across the entire flipping country.
And it cost me the game and almost cost me the whole challenge because if I'd won that
game, it would have been over.
I wouldn't have had to go to being down to nothing in a best of five rock, paper, scissors.
Like how close that was to losing me the game was terrible.
So basically what was going on in my head, this was the very first round of GeoGuessr.
I've never played before.
I didn't really understand how quickly you should be moving around and stuff.
Yeah, I saw that.
I hadn't really watched him play.
Yeah, you want to zoom.
Yeah.
And so I was just there.
I was like, oh, you know, can I see anything that's a hint?
No, all the license plates are kind of blurred.
I guess I won't be able to rely on that.
And do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
And it felt so close to home that I second guessed myself.
I went, there's no way.
They gotta be more common than that.
There's no way the first one is just going to be in my backyard.
I don't know.
In some suburb in Ontario.
And I ended up being off by like 2,000 miles.
Because Canada's enormous.
Or whatever it is.
My big crutch for GeoGuessr is domains.
Domains?
Because it's usually worldwide.
And I find that the really big countries, like the US and Canada, really actually don't come up that much.
It's often Europe.
Various European countries.
Oh, like little European countries.
So even if you're off, you're going to be close-ish.
But if you see a store banner, and the store banner has their website on it, it's in .nl.
It's like, oh.
Yeah, then that's a pretty easy one.
Cool.
So I'll just like zoom around, try to find something that would have a website on it, and then be like, all right, cool.
I know where that is.
And I figured some of that stuff out later.
Yeah.
Like using signs and stuff.
Yeah.
But I didn't figure it out early on.
It just wasn't a game I'd played before.
It was brutal, too, because the end score, if I remember correctly, was actually very close between you two.
It was really close.
Like really close.
Less than 100 points.
Out of 25,000.
And he had one where like almost immediately on his screen, there was a sign that just said, what was it, Manitoba?
Yeah, the name of a university or something.
Yeah.
And then like one or two more clicks later, and it was two major highways crossing each other.
That was his last one.
And it was like, oh, I guess I can find exactly this spot and just get like maximum.
Yeah.
So when I saw that happening, I was like, oh, I guess he lost.
Because I thought you had it up till then.
Because without basically a perfect guess.
Yeah.
I know.
You were going to win anyways.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man, how, I mean, realistically, he had his own bamboozled moments.
I still burst out laughing every time I watch his breakout gameplay.
I didn't see the whole thing.
You didn't see breakout?
No, I saw parts of it.
That's the one thing that we're going to watch together on the show today.
I saw you playing.
I saw you talking about the laggy input.
And then I saw them try to show like, it's not laggy.
And I'm watching just being like, what do you mean?
I can see it's laggy through the power of the internets.
But I didn't get to watch the rest of it.
I was like busy doing stuff.
And I was just trying to tune in when I could.
Yeah, yeah.
That's fine.
This is, man, this is absolutely wild, though.
Okay.
So here, I'm bringing it up on the stream version.
Hey, Dan, am I going to have audio here?
Yes.
You are not playing anything now?
I sure am not.
Am I now?
Yes.
All right.
Here, let's go.
So Linus laptop.
Here we go.
Make sure that you guys can hear it too.
Okay.
So he's just, he's playing around with it a little bit to kind of get a feel for the
leg.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's smart.
I think it's this one.
He's got control.
Oh, he keeps like.
Yeah.
Oh, is the audio really bad?
Only for us.
Most likely only for us.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
Oh, God.
Okay.
I hope.
But it should be.
Why is it so bad for us?
Sounds like sample rate mismatch.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
What?
No, no, he got it.
He got it.
He got it.
I hate when it's like flat.
Okay.
So don't, don't worry about it.
So we get five balls.
We were going to play pong, but we couldn't find a pong that would accelerate the ball in
between shots.
We couldn't find a web pong that would work properly.
That's weird.
Cause that's just how pong works, isn't it?
It gets faster as you play.
Okay.
Okay.
The audio doesn't really matter that much.
It doesn't really matter that much.
But a lot of you were able to.
You should just, I'm just going to turn the audio off.
Forget it.
So basically.
Whoa.
What was that?
He's cruising along and then just gets absolutely completely just bamboozled.
So he's got to get 102 points to beat me.
Oh, that was close.
And he's used up three balls now.
Whoa.
Is the orange and the red just like that?
No, they, they speed it up, but I don't think they're supposed to actually change the angle.
The angle.
Yeah.
But the, but the higher bricks are worth way more points.
So the lower ones are worth one each.
And then I think it goes up to three and then like five or seven or something.
But it just like, it just tosses it on a weird, look at your face.
You love this.
I couldn't, I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it.
I felt, I mean, I like winning obviously, but I felt terrible for the guy because that
was ridiculous.
That is ridiculous.
And with how leggy the controls were, you can't be reacting to like.
You were going to catch it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially the first one would just, it looked completely broken.
I just, I don't know.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
No, it was ridiculous.
That's, that's unfortunate when you, when you don't like prep the games ahead of time.
Well, honestly, we had the same issue in Drunken Fight Simulator.
Like it didn't, I swear to you, the controls are worse than they were when we played.
Markedly worse.
Very noticeably worse.
Like we could barely, we could barely orient our guys to face the same way.
And the animations weren't even smooth.
Like sometimes you could get them to turn a little bit.
I think, I think it worked better the time that we played.
And obviously the game hasn't been patched.
I mean, that's probably why.
Like, come on.
Right.
So it barely worked at all.
Epic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, it was a lot of fun though.
He was an absolutely great host.
What I said about him on the yard, I, I stand by 100%.
I think that he is an S tier host.
I think he's a born entertainer.
Yeah.
And you could basically drop him into pretty much anything.
And he would manage to, to, to find the entertainment, find the humor.
And it just, it doesn't surprise me what a success the guy's been, even if, you know, like I said, I don't, I don't watch a ton of content.
And honestly, the rest of the, the rest of the team was great.
I was razzing them a little bit on the podcast.
I don't know if you've watched it.
You, you listened to the yard, right?
It's up now.
Uh, not.
Or you used to anyway.
Yeah.
Uh, I will probably listen to it at some point.
I, my thing with the yard is I, I had this great appreciation for the yard because, um, I, I gained a ton of weight over COVID and the, the best and safest thing for me to do for a while was just go walk.
So I would walk for like hour and a half to two hours every day.
Right.
Just to get tons of steps in.
So I would listen to just the yard constantly cause it was really entertaining and it would make me, I would want to listen to it.
So I'd want to go outside and walk cause I wouldn't let myself listen to it without walking.
Having been on it.
I still don't understand what it is about.
What is the podcast about?
Is it just white guys talk about things podcast?
Cause yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
I guess.
It's about white women and dogs.
It's all right.
It's just, that's, that's the topic.
That's what it's about.
Sure.
Yeah.
Cause they like there wasn't, it didn't seem like, I don't think there's like a set, like this is, this is like a tech news show,
but what do we talk about half the time?
What's the point of this show?
I don't know.
Yeah, exactly.
What's the point?
Who knows?
I don't know.
It's called the yard.
It's like some dude sitting in chairs in a yard.
Called them out hard on their like tier, like little bro controller set up for their guests.
Oh, is it bad?
They all had like really nice thing.
I don't watch it cause I would just listen to it.
I was walking.
They have really nice mic arms so they can like shift in their chair and like have their mic like
right next to their mouth and stuff.
And I'm just, mine's just on like a light stand.
So I had to like sit up like I had a broomstick up my butt the whole time.
And to be clear, it was, it was fine.
They were all very courteous guests.
I gave, I gave the rest of the guys a bit of a, of a, like I razzed them a little bit.
It was like, I don't even know who you guys are.
Um, but they were absolutely fantastic.
And I, I was mostly just leaning into it later just to, just to razz them.
Cause it's not like they didn't take their opportunities with me.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
We didn't even make it through bro versus bro without him bringing up the, the hard R incident.
Oh really?
Yeah.
I didn't realize that.
I suspected they would have on the yard.
Out of all the meme faces and like everything that's gone on here in the 11 years that I've
been doing this at Linus media group, really the hard R one is the one that has made its
way into the general consciousness.
I think more than anything else.
And for those of you who aren't familiar, um, on an episode of the WAN show some time
ago, I don't even remember, but I, I, I alluded to having used what I thought that meant.
I thought it meant, I thought it meant something else, the mental disability slur.
And I was talking about how it was culturally acceptable to use it in the early two thousands,
like in high school.
And I referred to it as the hard R thinking that that's what that meant.
But I found out that means a very different word that in fact doesn't begin with R.
Yeah.
But there's, okay.
Why would, why would it be, why would, how does the word hard make any sense with the
previous one?
I don't know.
Well, because it's, it's a hard word.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because they're talking about how you pronounce the R at the end of the word.
I understand now.
Thank you very much, Professor Linguistics.
You know, the worst part about this for me is people just constantly bring it up around
me.
I'm like, I don't want to talk about this.
Like, what do you mean?
Like, I'll have, I'll, I'll have never met this person before.
Don't know that they know me or anything.
And they'll just walk up and be like, hard R.
I'm like, why?
I don't want anyone around me to hear that you're saying this to me.
Like, I don't, like if we're in private conversation, maybe, but people are just walking up to me
and saying hard R in public.
And I'm like, what?
I don't, what do you?
So you've, yeah, you've cursed me.
If that, if that makes you feel any better.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah.
I thought you might like that.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, how many things in your life are cursed because of me?
Probably, probably a lot.
That can't be the worst one.
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh, man.
Yeah, that's great.
I had the pleasure of, I had the pleasure of bringing up the Ice Climbers video that
you linked me to.
The best YouTube video of all time.
Yeah, so poor Ludwig got to realize that the only video I'd ever watched of him was actually
Slime's video.
Which I didn't realize as I'm sitting there on their podcast.
Oh, man.
I found them through SlimeWire as well, Slime's channel.
I didn't actually, because I don't watch streams at all, ever.
I had no idea how profitable podcasting was.
I think they make more on the yard than we do on any individual property.
Including Wancho.
Like they have 40,000 subscribers to just the weekly podcast.
I mean, why do we do Wancho for free?
Wait, what's the point of the subscribers?
Do they get it early or something?
Or like?
They get a decent amount of extra content.
Oh, do they?
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
That's kind of cool.
The Yard's Patreon is actually like pretty good.
Yeah.
Maybe we should learn some things.
Yeah.
I'm going to your laptop.
I mean, I've brought them up a few times.
Oh, get out of here.
No one will respond to that if you email it.
Um, I don't know if it's going to show here, but yeah, I see premium episodes.
I don't know.
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
Like, do they do a thing at the end of the show or something?
It didn't seem like it.
Not with me anyway.
It seemed like everything we shot was the thing that was uploaded.
So.
Yeah.
So they have premium episodes.
They have this.
Yeah.
Aiden's advice.
Um, I don't know.
They've got other stuff.
So there's a bunch of, a bunch of extra content.
I think there's a pretty big lean on extra content.
Got it.
Okay.
And then there's, you know, discord access, the normal stuff, postcards.
I don't know what's up with that.
First look at all merch and discounts.
That's cool.
Yeah.
So their merch sells out crazy fast.
As far as I can tell, like they, they had a, like a coffee book or something.
Yeah.
Coffee book, like coffee table book or whatever they're called.
Sure.
Um, and apparently it's sold out in like five minutes and they have to do a second printing
now or something like that.
That's wild.
Oh, they have a cool tier at the end there that I'm not going to say.
Linus figures out something he does for four plus hours a week can make money.
Okay.
I know it can make money.
It's just, it's just that it could make more.
The point, the point is just that I, I had, I had no idea how, how invested people, um,
get in like podcasts.
Like I just, yeah, I, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't, I don't consume them.
This is one of those things that I don't consume.
So they're selling a natural, just lawn chair.
Yeah.
It's, it's pretty comfy.
I sat on it during bro versus bro.
It's a rocking lawn chair.
That's funny.
They would.
Why not?
Right.
I don't know.
We made a screwdriver.
Who knows?
Yeah, exactly.
Here's, here's what I was talking about.
It's, it's a little blurred cause I'm not subscribed to their Patreon, but yeah, see the chair there.
But it's a lawn chair.
Yeah.
They kill it.
They 42,583 members.
That's, that's some monster member count.
Yeah.
Heck yeah.
No kidding.
It definitely made me feel like we need a set upgrade.
We are probably, we are probably, we probably have the highest, um, sort of general reach
and influence to set construction quality ratio on the internet at this point.
Like the WAN show is low key, a gigantic podcast.
Like we have anywhere from 600 to 700,000 weekly viewers of the video thing.
I don't even know how many people watch it or listen to it on podcast platforms, but Ludwig
pointed out to me that thousands of people apparently watch on Twitter, which I had, I
didn't even know.
We just like turn it on.
I think it never looked at once.
I have no, I have never once looked at how many people are watching on Twitter.
I don't think any of us did.
We are streaming set up.
We can just like add streaming destinations.
No problem.
Yeah.
So we should just stream everywhere.
Every once in a while.
We're just like, Oh, there's another one we didn't think of.
We're on TikTok now.
Yeah.
Do you know about that?
We're on TikTok.
We're on TikTok right now.
Yeah.
My TikTok.
Holy f***ing s***.
There are 11,000 people apparently watching on Twitter.
Sup dudes.
What are you even doing with your life?
Why are you watching live?
Why are you watching a four hour video on Twitter?
Yes, you're being called out.
Get attacked.
Why would you watch this show?
Go outside, nerds.
No, it's tight.
Watch some grass.
It's fine to watch the show.
Get off the internet.
It's just funny watching it on Twitter.
Apparently our chat is verified only.
Can we un-that it?
Because that's cringe.
That'll probably get so, oh.
Sure.
I'll deal with that.
Dude, I'm not.
No, no, I'm not.
No, you're right.
You're right.
I'm just saying.
I'm not going to even begin.
Think about unmoderated.
I'm not even going to.
I don't even care.
Fully free form.
Luke.
Twitter chat.
Luke, this is the very last time that I am ever going to look at it.
So it doesn't matter.
That's probably true.
How long have we even been streaming on there?
I don't know.
A few weeks now?
A few weeks?
Something like that?
I don't know.
I don't remember.
No one has any idea.
I mean, are these just all bots anyway?
Like, look.
Probably.
Don't look at the comments.
Buddy here is like, didn't even know this was a thing.
Yeah.
So, pretty active chat.
Is that the only verified user?
I don't know.
Because it's verified only chat and that's the only comment.
I don't know if you can check the user list or anything.
I think I like that.
That's good.
We should keep it that way.
Sup, Mario.
All right.
Well, there you go.
There's two of them now.
Things are taking off a little bit.
This is bad.
Yeah.
That's probably okay.
We got to get out of here.
We got to not encourage this.
That's the end of the attention for the Twitter chat.
Yeah.
That is hilarious.
I wonder what Ludwig thinks about us being openly hostile against most of our viewership
of the WAN Show.
No.
No.
We are not openly hostile to most of the viewership.
We are openly hostile toward most of the viewing platforms.
We are openly hostile to Twitch, Twitter, Facebook.
Actually, Facebook, we're more just ambivalent about.
Yeah.
We got 18 on Facebook.
Yeah, exactly.
We love you guys.
Those are our real viewers.
It's Luke's mom.
In the words of Nikita from Battlestate Games, those are the true believers.
Luke's mom is legit way too tech savvy to be watching on Facebook.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She has a float plane account.
Exactly.
Got them.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I don't think we're openly hostile to TikTok.
How many people are watching on TikTok?
Well, you didn't even know they existed.
We got 238.
241.
Yeah.
Dang.
That kind of makes sense.
Who would be watching this on TikTok like that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure.
Well, I mean, this is our second week doing it.
Last week, we had like 10.
Oh, so we doubled, is what you're trying to say.
200 is more.
Oh, so we 20xed.
Yeah.
I don't remember.
I think part of the problem is there's like, there is a WAN, there is a account on TikTok
called the WAN show, but our actual account is called the dot WAN dot show.
Seriously?
Yeah.
So I wasn't even on the right page.
This shows you what I know about TikTok.
Yeah.
Like, we don't stream WAN show on the Linus Tech Tips TikTok.
I don't know why.
Maybe that, I'm sure someone, there's some reason for that, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Hey, look at that.
But here's the, like, yeah, that's the real one.
Wait, it's not vertical, is it?
I don't know.
Oh, no, these are clips.
Thankfully, no.
Oh, this is hilarious.
These are clips.
Okay.
Nice.
So the WAN show is live.
Okay, okay.
So, Dan, what's our Spotify numbers?
I hope they're good because, like, I low-key legitimately thought that the WAN show is,
like, kind of a big podcast.
And if I find out now that it's actually a really small podcast, then my PP will get
very small.
Well, I mean, we're fourth in the U.S. for tech-like news.
Oh, okay.
That seems kind of...
Looks like 500...
That's, we're not even on the podium, then.
So, 500,000 listeners in the last month?
Oh, that seems, like, a fair bit.
I don't know.
Is that...
I have no idea.
I have no context for this.
They're not super related.
Like, they're, like, cryptocurrency trading podcasts and stuff.
Like, it's anything that could fall under tech.
Okay, so hold on.
Like, what are the ones ahead of us, Dan, again?
There's a cybersecurity one, a cryptocurrency one, and the Wall Street Journal.
How do we find this list?
Yeah, like the Wall Street Journal.
It comes to my email.
Oh.
Do you have a way of screen sharing?
Or just forward it to one of these accounts?
I will try and find it.
That might take too long.
So, apparently, there's a theory on why the WAN show is so big.
Okay.
And it's because people fall asleep.
And then when they wake up, they're watching the WAN show.
They were talking about this on the Waveform podcast a week or two ago.
Wow.
They're like, yeah, how often is it...
Boom roasted.
How often is it that you go to sleep and when you wake up, you're listening to Linus and
Luke talk about tech on the WAN show?
And they were like, very often.
Which I think is pretty funny.
Who's sleeping for like three hours?
Floatplane chat is like, no, this is 100% a thing.
This happens to me every day.
They're sleeping for...
Fix your sleep schedules.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They're not sleeping for three hours.
They go to sleep listening to something.
And then it autoplays all night.
And they wake up in the middle of a six-hour WAN show.
It ends up landing on WAN show.
Exactly.
Got it.
Well, okay.
Then everyone else just needs to figure out their game.
Figure out the market, man.
We cornered our niche.
It's sleeping people.
Okay?
You can find your own.
And the show is so long, so we can have every single keyword in the video description and
in the timestamps.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You just got to figure it out.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Fantastic.
Okay, so Dan, do you have the list?
No, I'm looking for it currently.
Okay, fine.
You can just...
Or, like, can you just...
Is this something you can just search for?
Like the...
Oh, I might be able to find it.
Hold on.
I'm going to try a different thing.
I don't know how Spotify works.
We're not on Spotify.
We're using a new thing called Megaphone by Spotify.
Which puts it on.
What?
Yeah.
Megaphone?
Why do you need Megaphones?
Ah, chartable.
So, Megaphone allows us to simultaneously post it everywhere and also manage all of the
podcasts simultaneously.
Previously, what we would have to do is go to each individual...
Oh, no, I don't want to sign up.
I want to log in.
Again, we'd have to go to each individual platform and then post it there, right?
Because we've got TechLinked and GameLinked as a podcast now.
Chartable doesn't even show us in the top...
Oh, it's United States of America.
Okay.
I'm looking at our statistics.
Do you make money on, like, a Spotify podcast?
Yes, we make money.
Do we really?
Yes.
So, one of the reasons they moved us over to Megaphone was part of their Spotify audience
network, which allows us to, I'm so sorry, do targeted advertising.
Oh.
We can also insert advertisements as necessary and it's all sort of automated.
Interesting.
People know that they don't have to listen to those ads and they can just, like, watch
on YouTube where we don't insert ads in the WAN show, right?
Yeah.
Or say you have something like Spotify Premium.
I don't believe the ads are served.
Oh, got it.
Okay.
Well, that's neat, I guess.
Neat.
Should we jump into a topic?
Oh, no.
We're supposed to explain merch messages.
Hey.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
So, while I was down there for Ludwig's stream, someone sent him a super chat for $500, which
I thought was pretty wild and even he seemed, like, kind of taken aback by it.
He was like, yeah, I have kind of a policy.
Anything above $100, I don't give any kind of different reaction to because...
You want to encourage, like, degenerate behavior.
Yeah, you don't want to encourage people to just be giving way too much money to people
that, you know, obviously...
Because, like, some of those people, maybe that is totally fine for them, but you're
also...
Some people are a little silly with their money sometimes and they'll see something like that
happen and do it when that's the last $100 they have left.
Yeah, which they really shouldn't do and I would never encourage someone to do.
And, like, maybe if it's the oil princes or whatever, like, who cares?
Yeah, sure, why not?
And then I think he said something along the lines of, like, anything above $500 he, like,
doesn't acknowledge or something like that.
Like, I can't remember exactly how he explained, like, his sort of personal approach to it.
Like that, based?
Our approach is, I'll take your $500.
In fact, I'll take $5,000.
$50,000.
But in exchange...
$500,000.
I will send you some fine merchandise from LTTstore.com.
We really do have an extremely broad range of products these days.
We've got everything from hats to...
Oh, man.
Oh, we've got some really cool new stuff this week.
We've got hats.
We've got tools.
We've got cable organizers.
Man, this product is, like, my favorite thing ever.
Look at this GIF.
Man, you just put that little magnet on there.
It's a GIF, Luke.
Get over it.
Put that little GIF on there.
Reviews.
Solid.
Absolutely love it.
I have to remove the triangle pieces.
Oh, okay.
The product is great.
Oh, shipping took long.
Oh, that's too bad.
Well, everyone says the product is great.
And I guess we need to get our shipping sorted out.
But, hey, that's our transparency for you.
So, you can check out reviews.
We've got a lot of great products.
We've got some really cool stuff this week.
Have you seen this yet, Luke?
Uh, well, I'm wearing one of them.
Oh.
That is hilarious.
Luke is wearing a dead pixel.
It's the dead pixel collection, folks.
And we've got so much cool stuff.
Want to be the Vanna today?
Uh, sure.
We've got a dead pixel monitor enamel pin.
It's on there.
It's on there.
It is a little hard to see.
But that's the point.
Can we get it?
Yeah, there it is.
There's a dead pixel on there.
Oh, I got it.
We've got a dead pixel sticker sheet.
So, you could put a dead pixel on your house.
You could put a dead pixel on the bumper.
Oh, each one of these stickers is a pixel.
Yep.
You could put a dead pixel on the bumper of your car.
You could put a dead pixel on your water bottle.
You could put it anywhere you want.
We've got the dead pixel desk pad.
Do we take this out?
Uh, nope.
Not necessary.
I think people understand the point.
It's a black mouse pad.
There's a white dead pixel on it somewhere.
I'm told they're all different as well.
That is so cool.
That is really cool.
Wait, is that true of all of them?
Maybe that's only the shirts.
I don't know.
Don't quote me on that.
Because I'm pretty sure the enamel pin is always in the same place.
So, I don't know.
The dead pixel's on it somewhere.
Maybe they're the same.
Maybe some of them are different.
It's all part of the fun.
Considering the enamel pin, it's like, it's not part of the paint.
It's actually part of the metal.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's molded.
I think it's molded.
Yeah.
Anyway, this, I believe, was a Sarah Butt brainstorm a while back.
And I was basically like, not only do we need to do this, we need to do so much more of this.
So, it's, man, yeah, we ended up with an entire collection.
So, you guys can check it out by clicking it there.
Sticker sheet.
Did I miss anything?
Nope, but you can get a bundle.
Oh, that's cool.
Okay, so you can get some bundle savings.
$59.99 for the entire dead pixel collection.
And this is the same quality desk pad that you guys have come to know and love from us.
Don't take my word for it.
Take the word of all of the people who have bought our desk pads over the years.
The one that has sold the most is, of course, the Northern Lights design.
And this is a five-star product, quite literally a five-star product with thousands of reviews.
We've sold tens and tens of thousands of these.
So, it's a really great quality pad.
The only problem with it is that, hey, if there's a dead pixel, I'm afraid we will not be accepting a return on this desk pad.
If it has more than five dead pixels in a cluster, then I would accept a return for it.
That seems fair.
Yeah, that seems fair.
There you go.
There's your dead pixel right there.
Dofo in Full Plane Chat said, so last week was a setup?
Right you are.
Yeah.
Very clever of us.
Anyway, the point is, I think we've...
So, yeah, if you want to send a merch message, all you got to do is head to lttstore.com, add something to your cart.
And when you're in the cart, you'll get a little pop-up when we're live to send a merch message.
It'll go to Producer Dan.
Hey, Producer Dan, who will reply to you, curate it for me and Luke to respond to, or just pop it up at the bottom, or even forward it to someone else internally who can get back to you with the answer that you need.
Yeah, I have one more update on the store.
If you guys are looking for an excuse to send a merch message today, today is your last opportunity to save 20% on the backpack.
We are taking back orders for our first batch of the fully updated backpacks with the dual layer bottom and the titanium carabiner.
And YouTube Shopping is helping you save 20% if you shop the real deal and purchase through the product tag on this video.
On YouTube.
Yeah.
So, if it's not there, you don't have the discount because YouTube is paying for the discount.
They are covering the discount.
All new backpack orders are expected to ship in July.
There is a very limited number of these discounts available, so if you want to get a deal on the backpack, grab it now.
Dan, do you want to throw a couple of merch messages at us and we can show the people how it works?
Sure thing.
Let's see.
Jacob here.
Dino pins when?
At Luke, can you talk about your experience with Shopify and your team's process?
As a Shopify developer, I'd love to hear your thoughts on not building a custom theme.
On not building a custom theme.
Man, I mean, sorry to jump in.
It would be very unlike me to do that if someone specifically asked Luke a question.
Totally.
Yeah, yeah.
Do it faster.
I don't even think it's an option.
What do you mean?
Like, not doing a custom theme.
Like, honestly, we ran into so many limitations.
Well, I'm trying to figure out what they mean because, like, our theme is based on one of the Shopify themes.
So, are they saying that that's not doing that?
I think it is doing that because we've made a lot of modifications.
Yeah.
But it isn't, like, custom from the ground up.
Oh, I see what you mean.
Yeah, I would say...
I'm not sure how they're defining this.
Got it.
Well, one way or another, I'll tell you this.
It's been great.
You will run into limitations so fast if you try to just go bone stock.
Let Shopify work for you.
But...
They're actually great.
There are limitations to it.
You know, you're going to get frustrated sometimes because there's whatever weird esoteric idea that you have that isn't going to work very well with the Shopify setup.
But, in general, Shopify is this fairly quickly, considering the size of the company, constantly marching forward machine that will improve and develop your store effectively for you.
So, I would highly recommend to base off one of their themes.
I think the theme that we based off of is the Dawn theme.
I believe that's it.
That sounds familiar.
And then it's heavily modified.
So, pick one of the ones that you like that are on.
Do a very short amount of research because it doesn't require much to figure out which ones are their most forward-facing ones right now.
Pick one of those.
Modify it to your liking.
And then, as they have the...
I don't remember what they're called, but it happens like, I don't know, twice a year or something.
They have these Shopify events.
And they announce like 10 trillion features.
20% are available now.
80% are going to be available over the next series of weeks, months, year, whatever.
And then just integrate those features and keep moving forward.
And then check out the App Store.
They also do like a Shopify-approved apps thing where there's apps that have worked more directly with Shopify.
Those ones are often better.
Like, we work with a lot of different companies in this realm.
Shopify, I would probably say, is one of the best ones, considering what they do and how easy it is to work with them.
And considering how little you pay, especially when your volume is pretty low, once you get into them taking a percentage of your revenue, then they end up definitely...
Like, they make money on us.
Oh, yeah.
But...
They do a lot of work.
We don't exist without them.
And hiring a development team to do all the things that Shopify does for us, we don't want to.
Yeah.
There.
That's the...
It's not efficient.
Yes.
We'd be better off...
They actually do a lot.
We'd be better off making modifications to Shopify than just trying to build our own thing from scratch.
And you've got to consider, like, if you look at the service in a really, really simplified vacuum, it doesn't seem that hard.
And then you start looking through their dashboards.
Yeah.
And then you start looking deeper in their dashboards.
Look.
And then it's like...
Look, as someone who worked for an online retailer who didn't use Shopify, I will tell you, it's not better.
Yeah.
Tortuga said, have to be careful with apps.
It can get expensive, so only use what you need while you grow.
I agree, but some of the apps are also just, like, straight up free.
Yeah.
Or genuinely very low cost.
And if you look at the pricing model that they have, you can kind of figure out how expensive it's going to be.
I personally find a lot of the apps to be actually quite affordable for what they offer.
That's easy for us to say, though, as a store that has got revenue every day.
No, like, genuinely.
I know.
But, look, if you're just starting out, then I can definitely see how you could end up in a trap where you go,
Oh, well, I can't possibly have a site without this and this and this.
That's almost certainly not true.
And you're underwater.
Yeah.
You can start with no apps and you'll be completely fine.
Because if you're a store that's just barely starting out, you probably don't need some of the fancier things that you can do with apps.
Just wait until you need it, get it later.
But, yeah, it's good.
It's very good.
Speaking of things that there's no way that you can wait until you need,
I am about to drive probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 to 500 floatplane subscribers.
Oh, whoa, why?
Do you know how I'm going to do it?
No.
So, I'm going to tell everyone that the legendary 100% success rate chicken recipe is up.
That's right.
Luke made the 100% success chicken for Artie, who said it's pretty good.
Yeah.
He also did a video showing off his burbs.
It was Luke week on floatplane.
So, the exclusives were all Luke themed.
Actually, not even true.
Actually, not all Luke themed.
We've also got Emily's video taking a deeper dive into the prototype via Centaur AI accelerated CPU.
And I think this is from last week.
So, it's mostly, mostly Luke themed.
But he also did his Starfield slash gaming industry rant slash optimistic chat.
Wait, have you watched it?
How did you know that?
Well, because I don't need to watch a video you host.
I know exactly what you're going to say.
That's pretty funny.
Because I was like, there's, I feel like there's no way he watched it.
But then you accurately described it better than like anyone else has.
So, I was like, how does this make any sense?
Also, I read comments.
One of the funny things on it.
That makes sense.
One of the funny things on that is, you know, haven't wrote a video in six or seven years.
Oh, yeah.
I thought it was going to be like nine minutes long.
Four minutes.
Oh, wow.
That's short.
Very fast.
Man, that's amazing.
Get Luke to talk about Starfield and the gaming industry.
And he wraps it up in four minutes and 11 seconds.
Have him talk about his birds.
And it takes him 20 minutes.
And there's an extra like minute and a half long clip that I added at the end.
That's hilarious.
Yeah.
And, oh, yeah.
And chicken.
Chicken also takes 20 minutes.
So, I made, the Starfield video was longer.
I made it shorter because I thought it was too long.
I think what got me was I mentally compared it to how long the documents were that I would
write for scripts back in the day.
Yeah.
And I think like, I don't know, font or format or something must have been different.
Like paragraph spacing or font or something.
So, it ended up being like half as long.
That's hilarious.
Because it was like a page and a half.
It's like, how the heck did it come out to four minutes and 11 seconds?
I think it has some good content in it, but I don't know.
Nickelplain asking the big questions.
What do your birds think of you cooking other birds?
They don't seem to mind.
I eat chicken in front of them.
Yeah.
Okay.
And that doesn't bother them?
Effectively every day.
Okay.
All right.
Don't seem to care.
What if you ate like something more closely related?
What if you ate a cockatiel in front of them?
That might be a bit of an issue.
I might not go over super well.
What if you ate it raw?
Wow.
Like would that, would they recognize like he is eating a bird?
I think so.
You think so?
They're pretty, are they that smart?
Like if you ate a budgie, if you Ozzy Osbourne'd a budgie, I think like right in front of them.
Pretty upset.
Yeah.
I think that would be pretty terrible.
Dan got the reference.
I know.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just mean.
Was that actually real?
Did that like actually happen?
Oh yeah.
The bat?
Oh yeah.
Guy's a, guy's a whack job.
Guy's a whack job.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Some, some people are asking for a state of gaming part two.
I don't know.
I feel like I kind of like owe people another one, but I can't do it on the same topic because
I made that one really dense, I guess, but it has basically everything in it.
Like the video is actually fine being as long as it is.
It just doesn't have any filler.
Oh, apparently Ozzy thought it was a prop, but he was like so ripped out of his skull on
drugs that he didn't notice they handed him a live one.
Wow.
That's kind of brutal actually.
We've all been there.
Pretty gross.
So that's where COVID came from.
Yeah.
It was just a little delayed.
Yeah.
It was just, uh, it was just quarantined in his system by like all the other wild things
going on in there for 25 years or however long it was.
There was some jokes that of the Luke Week exclusive content, there was, um, four minutes of video
games and 40 minutes of birds.
Yeah.
Because of chicken and, and budgies.
I mean, that makes perfect sense.
Uh, all right.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Good week on float plane.
Okay.
Dan, want to hit us with another merch message?
Sure.
Good evening, LLD.
I was interested in the duvet that was briefly talked about a yearish ago.
Any updates or has it been crushed?
Um, dead.
Yeah.
We actually still have literally a hundred thousand dollars in alpaca wool.
I heard about this.
Yeah.
So, um, we do need to find something to do with it.
Anyone has any bright ideas?
Yeah.
Do you want an alpaca something?
I mean, maybe we should just make a life-size alpaca plush and then just stuff it with alpaca
wool and call it a day.
We did merino underwear.
What about alpaca underwear?
Well, the problem is that it's loose wool because it was meant to be used as pillow stuffing.
So we would actually have to get it like.
We'd have to like machine it.
Yeah.
We'd have to get it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yarned.
Turned into.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Whatever the weaving or process or whatever that is.
What if you made like whale plushies and then just made them incredibly expensive because
they're filled with alpaca wool?
I mean, it's a, it's a possibility.
Yeah.
We could do whale plushies.
We could do a, we could do a bread Soros plushie and just it's, yeah, it's like, sorry,
it's a hundred dollars because it's full of alpaca wool.
And also it smells for the first three days because it's full of alpaca wool.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know what to do with it.
Um, alpaca edition screwdriver just comes what like with, with just like a bushel of alpaca
alpaca wool in the box.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah.
It's just, it's just premium packaging.
It doesn't make the screwdriver better in any way.
Yeah.
We've had it for like three years.
Apparently it's been stored in a dry place.
So it's like fine.
It should be fine, but we do really need to just put storage on it.
Apparently somehow.
No.
Yeah.
Which surprised me a lot because I don't know how much it costs.
Like, I don't know how much wool that is, but that sounds like a lot of money to me.
And so like, has alpaca wool gone up in value?
Like, is this an appreciating asset?
Yeah.
Are you just trading commodities?
This is one of my largest personal investments.
Do I need to disclose this?
Move over gold.
We've got animal.
We're going to put option puts on alpaca.
Alpaca fiber market.
Oh, no.
Let's see.
Hold on.
I'm just checking.
What are the trends?
Increasing popularity in the fashion apparel industry.
We've got pork futures.
That's a good one for you.
This is crazy.
Show me a graph.
Show me a graph.
I need a graph.
Someone needs to short Linus's alpaca wool.
Not financial advice.
Gamma squeeze it.
Hat?
Okay.
You don't have to spam that much.
Relax.
I don't want an alpaca wool hat.
No, I don't think I need it.
I don't know if anyone wants that.
Okay.
Here's the market size.
I don't know what we have, but I suspect it's somewhere in the medium range.
I don't think it's particularly fine fibers.
Show me the price.
Show me the bloody price.
Okay.
I give up.
That was as much time as I'm willing to invest into that right now.
All right.
Hit me, Dan.
Hey, WAN crew, I'm in the process of joining the U.S. Navy to be a cyber warfare technician.
Did y'all ever think about doing some kind of cyber tech work in the military or government space?
Big fan.
I think I've thought about doing everything one could imagine, so I don't know how fair it is to say thought about it.
How'd you end up here?
Mostly accident.
I was just like up late and saw this video and was like, oh, I'll do that.
Let me put my computer on this railway.
You tell me how that works, man.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's like sounds, I think for a lot of people, myself included, it sounds really cool.
And then you start doing stuff in that space and you're like, whoa, this is really hard.
Right.
So, yeah.
As for me, no.
No.
I just really like computers.
Yep.
And my career path had already diverged.
They wouldn't let me be a technician at NCIX.
Did I ever tell you that?
No.
So, it wasn't because of the lack of certification or anything like that.
It was, I wasn't the most experienced.
That's fine.
I could see how they could be concerned about the optics of that, but it had nothing to do with skill level.
I was just too good at selling.
Oh.
They wanted me in the front.
I was like, I would like to, I would like to just work in the back.
So, I would just, I would just hang out in the back and talk to the, to the tech at the Langley store.
His name was Andrew.
He was sick.
Yeah.
Guy was awesome.
He was like, he was one of those guys that just like, well, computer tech, just zero f***s given.
I think I remember this dude.
Yeah.
Super nice guy.
He's kind of ginger.
If I recall correctly.
I hardly.
So, I didn't require his services, but I would like stand there waiting to pick up one of my orders or whatever.
And the techs would come out and work with people.
And I remember just like listening in.
Yeah.
But he was chill.
He was awesome.
Anyway.
Yeah.
They wouldn't, they, they, they wouldn't let me just, so I'd go back there and hang out with them.
And the only reason that no one would get mad at me for it was because like my sales were higher than anyone else in the store anyway, in spite of the fact that I was just like shooting the breeze with the technician.
A lot of the time.
Because realistically, everything I was talking about was kind of on task, right?
Like, honestly, how much better would Best Buy be?
Okay.
Let's not use Best Buy as an example.
How much better would your local computer store be if the sales reps spent a tenth of their time just talking to the technicians?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Probably.
I mean, the, the, I'm going to use Best Buy anyways.
The Best Buy that I used to work at, our computer sales crew and our Geek Squad crew, when I worked there, were actually pretty well linked.
And we did super well.
And I think it made sense.
Yeah.
Because our team was like all quite competent.
No, it makes, it makes a ton of sense because otherwise, how are you going to know what to sell unless you know what comes back?
Yeah.
Our store was like one of the worst in Canada or something.
And by the time we were done, we were like number one or number two in Canada.
And I, we had a just fairly significant roster change.
And everybody was just real into it.
And it's, it's a lot easier to sell things when you like know what you're talking about and are passionate.
Yeah.
Because most people are like, okay, cool.
I hear what you're saying.
Everything that you're saying makes sense.
You have me interested in this thing because listening to passionate people is just interesting for most people.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And it works.
All right.
What do you want to do for a topic?
Do we want to pick a, oh, you want to do sponsors?
Dang it, Dan.
No, they deserve a topic.
They should have a topic.
Yeah.
Dan.
Gosh.
How about Meta says no more spam unless it's AI spam.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know what the heck's going on with this.
Meta says that they will be changing the recommendation algorithm for Instagram and threads so that they will no longer
recommend reposts and ripped off content, which the company says will give more visibility to creators of original content.
And when you listen to people who actually liked Facebook at some point talk about Facebook and its decline,
what they talk about, I've found more than anything else, is missing the days when it was actual updates from people they are first order connected to,
single degree of separation connected to, and interacting with those people.
And it's just kind of turned into just an endless doom-scrolling pile of content farm, you know, video crap and reposts of stolen memes and all that kind of stuff.
So I don't see anything in here about Facebook.
No, okay.
We'll get to that in a second.
These platforms will also add labels to reposted content with a link back to the original creator.
That is super cool.
And that should just be kind of standard practice.
This will not apply to content that has been significantly altered, however, like a work that is edited into a meme or given a new voiceover.
Meanwhile, it has become significantly harder to find original artist content on Facebook as the platform has become flooded with unmarked AI content,
much of which is bizarrely Jesus-themed.
Meta platforms are likewise being flooded with tons of ads for NSFW AI girlfriends against Meta's own policies.
According to Wired, at least 29,000 of these sexually suggestive ads have been published on Meta platforms.
Meta's own AI has been acting oddly on Facebook, making weird unsolicited comments on posts,
including one incident where it commented on a parenting group claiming to have a disabled yet gifted child.
Meta has also added the AI chatbot to Instagram search, making it difficult to avoid interacting with these features.
I did notice that, actually.
Anyway, I just want to show you guys a couple of examples of this weird, oddly Jesus-themed AI artwork.
Here's one.
Made it with my own hands.
Thanks to everyone who appreciates this.
And this is from account LoveGodAndGodLoveYou.
What the...
What am I looking at here?
And why does this have 46,000 interactions?
Yeah.
How much of this is bot activity?
46,000 interactions, but only 500 comments.
Well, no, that's an okay ratio.
46,000.
Yeah, because an interaction on Facebook is so low friction.
Yeah, I guess.
This may legitimately be actual people that are like, yes, shrimp Jesus.
Well, the next one, the next one has 185,000 interactions.
Love, from LoveFatherAndMotherBlessYou, made it with my own hands.
Thanks to everyone who appreciates this.
They're doing the made it with my own hands thing.
And both of these accounts, after the ambersand, they don't have a space.
I think this is the same thing.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Thank you, Professor Luke.
No problem.
You played spot the AI.
You won.
No, I mean, like, I think it's literally the same, like, person behind it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I don't think an AI would just not put a space in the name.
Like, I think somebody actually just named this themselves.
Yeah, that could be.
And then it's just AI generating photos.
Yeah, that could very well be.
Because, I mean, yeah, there's probably tools to, like, mass create accounts.
But surely you would have to approve.
It's just, I don't think this is one of those mistakes that an AI would even make, though.
Yeah.
It would put a space after the ambersand.
You know, that's something I've started noticing a lot lately, is, like, when something is
bad, it almost, it almost makes me, it almost makes me feel like.
Oh, this is real.
Yeah.
Because there's just absolutely no reason to make an error like that anymore.
Yeah, exactly.
And, like, why did it happen twice?
Yeah.
The big question here, though, is who's the sniper?
What?
Oh.
What do they have against Jesus?
I'm sure that's just the AI not really understanding that that's actually, like, supposed to be
a window or something.
And it's just like, ah, sure, why not?
We'll put that there.
Um, I don't know.
Our discussion question is, how big of a threat is out-of-control spam for companies like
Meta?
Oh, enormous.
Well, hold on a second.
Because it's not like the lowest common denominator that are unironically interacting with this
stuff can even tell the difference.
So why does it matter?
Like, for their user base.
What difference does it make?
Yeah, but I think the whole, like, what is it, is the, the, Daniel, no, is it fake internet
theory?
What is it?
Dead internet theory.
Dead internet theory.
Or dead mall.
Oh, this is hilarious.
Okay.
No, this totally makes sense.
Yeah, Floatplane Chat figured it out.
It's, it's, he didn't get, it's adapted for modern times.
He didn't get crucified.
It was firing squad.
But that, that, that's what they're representing.
Thanks, Floatplane Chat.
You guys got this sorted out.
To be clear, to be, to be clear, to be clear, okay?
Regardless of, regardless of alignment, this kind of thing is obviously ridiculous.
And that's the reason that I'm making light of it, because it's just clearly silly.
This poor man.
I know.
Is it hard?
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Is it, is it hard?
It's usually fine, but sometimes.
Is it hard, Luke?
Right now.
Why did the right now make me understand?
I, I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
Made you think about it.
This is bad, though.
Like, Twitter is, is just overran by bots.
Oh, my.
I.
Like, it's actually wild.
Okay.
Anyone who claims to not be able to accidentally find a link to the link to the link to the
pornographic material on Twitter, you are an actual liar, or your bar for what is considered
pornography is extremely high.
Um, I was just, I was just looking at the.
There's ads now that are like.
I was looking at the yard, um, post that the, the episode that I, that I was a guest on was up.
And, man, I wanted to see what the hidden for offensive content comments were.
And one of them was just from someone very confused, uh, which was kind of funny.
And I, I do read those comments sometimes.
And then one of them was, guys, don't, if you are at work, do not, do not unhide any, any
hidden comments on that.
Cause it's, yeah, it's very definitely above your bar, whatever your bar is.
Twitter is, Twitter is brutal.
Yeah.
Uh, I don't even know.
I don't even know what to make of it at this point.
Like at what point can we not ask our staff to be on a platform as part of their work?
Interesting.
Like, do we have to basically create a policy at this point?
If this gets any worse, do we tell the social team, okay, look, um, you guys can post on
this.
You can decide to not if you, but realistically, um, we advise against consuming any content
on this platform at work.
You can't, or even you can't like, we can't, we can't tell people, yeah, go ahead and find
porn, like view pornography at work.
That's not, that's not okay.
Hey, I saw one during the show, Dan, don't tell me that.
I mean, it's a problem.
Is it not okay?
If the employee's okay with it, is it not okay?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not okay.
I don't think it matters because it all comes back to that question of like the power dynamic.
So even if, even if they're okay, right?
Even if they're okay, the fact that I told them to do it might put pressure on them to
be okay.
Yeah, yeah.
And then even if they say it's okay, they might come back later and, and retroactively
decide it wasn't okay.
That's the weird part.
So we almost have to get out ahead of it, right?
If you don't tell them to do it, if you say like, we would like posts on Instagram, but
if, if anyone's uncomfortable with that, you don't have, or Twitter, but if anyone's
uncomfortable with that, you don't have to do it.
And that doesn't, and not everyone's in a, in a private office too, right?
Like that doesn't account for if anyone's walking behind their desk and someone's just
banging on their screen.
Yeah.
Right?
Like we can't, we can't ask people to be subjected to that.
So we, I mean, I, I, we should raise this next week, like an exec meeting, like, should
we have a serious discussion about whether Twitter is a site that is allowed to be accessed
on our network?
There's probably a, there's probably a way to offer the like IT team to block all the
images that load on Twitter.
I mean, I'd be, I'd be interested in that as a solution.
Yeah.
How to, how to, how to safer work your Twitter account.
Dude, this is ridiculous.
It is, it is actually genuinely getting like the fact that we even have a
have to have this conversation and, and you know what?
We might not, we might not do anything with it.
We might kind of go, the team might come back and say like, look, yeah, if you don't
dig into the show offensive replies and if we don't go onto any trends, like if we just
kind of stay on our own replies, it's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The trends, man.
I'll also get it in my, in the, whatever the mixed news feed is.
If I look at just my notifications or whatever that section's called, like things that are
directed towards me, it's generally fine.
My mentions are generally fine.
Yeah.
Not always.
But not always.
Yeah.
But, but usually vast majority of the time it's okay.
But if I look at the, the full mixed feed, it's like pretty high percentage.
Yep.
Walmart comes to, oh wait, no sponsors.
All right, I'll do it.
I'll, I'm doing it, Dan.
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Do you want to do the Sonic one?
I want to talk about your face for a second.
You want to talk about my face?
Your hair's coming back in.
My hair?
Your beard.
Oh, I just, I didn't shave this morning.
I shaved last night.
So this is a fun one.
That facial treatment that I did, apparently it stimulates hair growth.
Oh.
So my beard's been, like, if I don't shave for like 36 hours, like, I look like a mountain
man.
Are you just going to let it go?
Oh, no, I am.
But no, I got to finish my paint job.
Oh.
Yeah, my, so my motorbike paint job got kind of interrupted by Ploof's car paint job, which
by the way, have you seen now?
Yes.
He pulled into work.
What do you think?
It's not as striking as the, you know, the hot pink.
I kind of, I kind of got cold feet and I wanted it to look cool.
It looks pretty cool.
Instead of just like an acid trip.
But it's not, yeah.
It's not the acid trip of the original.
No.
The original Lamborghini.
It's pretty cool.
But it's, it's cool.
I reviewed the video, by the way, right before WAN Show.
It's great.
It's significantly more like, you know, livable than the first one.
Oh, man.
His car is like sick.
And I loved the way that Alex framed the intro.
So we added better headlights, acoustic dampening.
We added power locks, power windows.
And we did all of those upgrades for less than the price of a single monthly payment on a brand
new Civic.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I thought that was such a cool way to frame it.
Wow.
That is a really cool way to frame it.
Yeah.
And we, and we pulled it off.
I'm immediately interested in that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Good job.
The paint job was several payments, but don't worry about that.
That was, that was gratis.
But you don't have to paint.
That was for fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That part was just for lols, a ton of fun.
And I learned a lot.
We used a high build primer by accident.
I, it's one of those things where like, I wouldn't have bought that one, but I could
have saved it by doing some research and using some reducer in it, which I had on hand,
but I was just like, I mean, probably this will be fine.
And I started spraying it and that's why it has that like texture to it because my gun
is rated for maximum nine PSI and that high build primer wants 20 PSI.
So basically it didn't completely atomize and it just like blew chunks at the car.
So, um, okay.
So you're still shaving because you need the mask to make a seal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that my like organic filter, uh, mask is still good while I'm finishing up my bike.
I'm going to do a bunch of color tests this weekend.
I'm really excited about that.
So I've got a bunch of different variations of undercoat, mid coat, and then top coats
and effects and stuff like that.
And I've got, uh, an order of speed shapes I got from Aliexpress for like $2.
So speed shapes are basically things like this and they just have like kind of contours
like a car.
So you can paint them and then kind of see what it looks like from different angles.
Got it.
I'm going to get that done and I'm just going to settle on a bloody color and get this thing
done, even though we haven't really quite gotten to the level of vibrant pink that I
would like.
I'm just going to have to kind of live with it and get it done.
I want to ride it this season.
Darn it.
Other than that, I didn't have a particular topic.
Uh, we could talk about it.
We're supposed to do merge messages.
Oh, nevermind.
You don't, you don't have to.
Can you pick one?
So antagonistic.
I'm going to run to the washroom real quick.
I'll be right back.
All right.
We'll get one for Luke.
Yeah.
A question for Luke.
Yes.
If you got offered a job at from a NASA or a similar dream job, right when Linus leaves,
would you leave LMG and move to the U S for it?
Uh, I'd be really tempted, but as of right now, I don't think I could.
Um, I feel too much direct responsibility to certain teams, certain people here, stuff
like that.
I don't know if that would ever necessarily change.
Maybe it will.
Maybe it won't.
Um, but I would be extremely flattered.
I'd say that much.
I'd be a little bit confused as to what NASA would want to do with me.
Um, but I'd be interested.
Yeah.
That's it.
Maybe a boring answer.
Greetings, LLD.
I'm watching float plane from an airplane.
Sick.
Luke, what processes do you have in place?
Oh boy.
To help your development teams actually accurately forecast delivery timelines.
Any, any implementation tips?
I mean, I'm going to say no.
Oops.
Uh, sorry.
What was the last, what was the last line?
Any implementation tips?
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, what, what, oh man.
Good luck, uh, James.
Have fun.
So, yeah, welcome to the world of developer timelines.
Uh, they don't work.
It's, it's like the, whose line is it anyways points?
They don't matter.
They don't exist.
Um.
They're made up.
They're, they're made up.
You start getting used to different people on your team and like how good,
like that person is at estimating time some teams can find um systems like they'll they'll start
like point scoring things and a lot of teams will use different uh types of point scoring that they
can have people saying scrum for them and yeah good luck that doesn't i i don't find personally
that that scrum actually helps you there's a lot of issues with scrum in my opinion but i don't i
don't actually find that scrum itself helps you estimate actual completion time of large projects
that need multiple scrums to actually like be completed like maybe and and i mean you estimating
the amount of time that it's going to take at the beginning of the project because some people will
cheat and be like well we know how much we can do roughly every two weeks and then that's slightly
inaccurate every time so by the end the assumption we made at the beginning is really wrong but our
assumptions along the way were pretty good so therefore we did a good job and it's like well
no because we're talking about the assumption made at the beginning compared to what the reality was
at the end of it anyways um but you can you can do like the best one that i've heard of is when
teams start looking at jobs and they do a point scoring thing so they try to assume the amount of
like blocks of time that something will take so they don't do it by hour they do it by like half day or
full day or something like that um and they use that as project estimating and then they review that
after every project that they do to try to help themselves get more and more accurate over time
that is helpful for teams that often do at least somewhat similar things if you're constantly
doing very very different things all the time it's still going to be really tough to estimate
i've actually found that i'm more successful when i just get used to roughly how inaccurate individuals
are and then don't actually coach them on doing it at all and just have them keep doing their
estimates as they have been and then buffer custom amounts per person and then i found that's
actually pretty good i'm i'm pretty accurate that way as a blanket rule i always add either 2x or two
weeks whichever one feels more correct for the situation add two weeks to it or double the amount
of time that developer says they think it'll take um a lot of developers are
a little bit overconfident um or don't necessarily fully consider testing time uh different things
like that needing to go back and refine things or whatever else um so just give them a little bit
of extra time because you don't want them to you don't want the blow of like it's late we need it now
when they actually just want to do a good job um yeah so someone in philippine chapter said as a dev i
always feel bad when i underestimate time exactly so if you're leaving devs try to
set them up for success by hopefully putting them in a situation where that's not really going to
happen by buffering for them one of the best ways to do this is not actually share the full
communication with either end don't tell the devs that you buffered extra time for them until they
run out of time and don't tell the people that you're agreeing to do the project for that you buffered
any time just tell them the buffered amount and then you end up delivering a little bit early
and then when the dev ran out of time you can magically give them extra time and then everyone
on each end is happy and you just it's all fine so basically your career advice is lie through your
so basically your community your career advice is lie through your teeth no it's just correctly
estimate and know the people that you're working with i see yeah all right hit me uh is there
one for me or are you guys done yeah sure i got one for you here thanks dan let's see
uh did you obtain any patents for your cable management designs or did you figure that if
they get ripped off it'll likely happen in china where all bets are off and decide not to bother
um it's a combination of things one that second thing you said yeah i mean realistically what are
we going to do go after a chinese company they don't care their government doesn't care
um they only care when chinese companies get ripped off it's actually really interesting the
double standards that exist in the eyes of the chinese government um so realistically we're not
really yeah we don't really think there's going to be any defense against that anyway
um number two i don't think there's anything particularly patentable about it it's a it's a
magnet attached to a piece of plastic like if we if we had anything particularly novel about it
um if anything i think we'd be better off can make it better i know yeah but if there was anything
that made it better or was particularly novel about it i think we'd actually be better off just not
mentioning it yeah because then their product might not do as well whereas if you patent something
you have to like include drawings and stuff of like how you do it which i'd rather just not do if we
had anything about it that made it special uh and number three is a big part of what makes the cost of
our products so high is the raw material cost of the neodymium magnets so with that in mind if you
were to make a knockoff where are you saving your money exactly you could i mean we already had the
molding done in china we already have the plastics shot in china we're already buying neodymium from a
supplier in china so okay chinese knockoff company what exactly is your advantage going to be here
um you're going to do all the same things as us and so if you build it to the same level of quality
with the same amount of raw neodymium in it your price is going to be high so what they're going to
do inevitably you can mark my words on this what they're going to do is they're going to cheap out
on the neodymium it won't hold as well and they wouldn't even if if we did have something special
that we did to make it better they won't figure that out they won't notice they won't care
because all people ordering online are going to see is that it's the same shape and it has a magnet
in it they're not going to know how deep the magnet goes and so those magnets are going to break more
easily they're not going to hold as well people are going to get it they're going to find out that
it sucks and then if anything it's just marketing for our products because ours is the real one ours
is the good one so we didn't really see the point because it's a really great product and it's
quality and uh it's selling really great so yeah we'll see how it goes in the longer term but
no i'm really not that worried about it the only way to compete with us on price is to make a
crappier product good luck with that got them
i don't know man let's get these uh main topics out of the way just to make sure ai powered race cars
kind of suck so far the abu dhabi autonomous racing league the world's first racing league featuring
self-driving formula race cars held two races this weekend the first featured only self-driving race
cars while the second had self-driving cars compete against human drivers okay that's interesting the
qualifying time trials prior to the race wound up being chaotic with the automatic race cars struggling
to finish a lap and occasionally randomly jerking as if dodging an invisible obstruction
that's actually weird multiple cars spun out and at least one hit a wall did they not test this at
all
here's from the article on the verge uh watch this car whoa hey oh hey oh yeah how you doing
um huh this is great hold on you're about to watch a car turn into a wall i think
yeah why is that car is still a car it didn't turn into a wall misleading misleading the verge
misleading bad content the qualifying or sorry during the race the leading car spun out the second car
passed but an official threw a yellow flag the other cars got confused and stopped behind the stalled car
as during a caution lap cars are not allowed to pass each other the autonomous cars were slow
especially around corners and seemed to get confused by the smoke from other vehicles
oh one car misjudged another car's braking and rear-ended it
this sounds like a very expensive hobby yeah
yeah
jiff keeper over on uh in the verge's comment says people only watch f1 for when things go wrong so i
don't see anything bad about this stonks dude they're gonna make so much money
so many things wrong with this so many layers
that's amazing all of the sponsors are just insurance companies
there's a lot of ai driven cars on the road this could be you what you're watching right now
injured by a tesla all the traditional automakers all the traditional automakers who have
who have paused their investments in autonomous driving just putting it all into this to make like
tesla look bad make people scared oh that's so funny this is amazing uh i think that's mostly it
there's some discussion questions what's the likely difference between programming a car to
navigate a city versus programming it to complete a race honestly i don't know enough about this to
really comment on that but for me it's not necessarily the because the predictability of the
track theoretically is a huge should be very high huge advantage even if you are using machine
vision which you would have to be doing in order to avoid obstacles or other vehicles um knowing the
the basic parameters is an enormous advantage however the speed at which things are happening
and the relatively speaking lack of clear rules like on a on a public street this sign means everyone
should behave in in this predictable manner whereas on this track oh i see okay it's well get
there first yeah right and obviously they're going to program in some rules because they don't
want their expensive machines to just get exploded randomly turn and drive into walls but i mean we've
absolutely speaking of randomly turning to the left um and driving into walls uh let's uh yeah this thing
like racing all comes down to you know your your risk to reward tolerance right so this is this is one of the
most i'm not into racing but this is one of the most amazing moments in race history what is this um
your game move yeah hold on let me see if i can find this so buddy's way behind uh hold on where's my
oh man where's my retention this is sick thing well man why is why is this video trash
well anyway yeah i can't find it but uh yeah unbelievable oh apparently it's now banned yeah
it makes sense hate for anything interesting to happen in all seriousness though that is crazy
dangerous and nobody should be doing that okay here we go here we go here we've got this is a dash cam
here's a dash counting yes on that one dan look at him go
see you later buddy wow so even with all the friction yeah passes passes like six cars in the
corner wow yeah absolutely wild but like i don't know man like a machine can't run that risk how's
it going to make that decision how's it going to be creatively like that very few people do that
i think that's true he apparently pulled eight g's oh wow wow
i wonder what kind of chances there were for him to just like break his car doing that laws earth says
i'm a fan and watched it live he literally just tried a video game move like he used on playstation
not helping not helping anything um all right what else we got here uh uk bans bad passwords yeah
that's interesting updated its telecommunications security legislation to ban easily guessable
default passwords now manufacturers will need to ensure their devices come up with a randomly generated
password or that they can generate a random password upon setup oh default passwords cannot
reference is okay they ban bad default passwords that makes a decent amount of sense default passwords
cannot reference easily discoverable information like wi-fi ssids and they cannot be incremental
versions of each other ie password one password two okay neat so i would just like to say that i kind
of hate this why as a technical user i really like it when my default password for everything that brand
is just admin admin because often i am resetting something multiple times and going back and referring to
the 14 car random characters uppercase lowercase special character thing and entering that on my
stupid phone because my laptop that i'm using on site today is out of battery like i can
understand how it's annoying situations where this will be extremely annoying for me but it is 100
percent yes the right thing to do yeah yeah it'll be annoying for probably a lot of the people
watching right now literally dozens of us will be infuriated by this but it's better for the whole
but it's well here's my problem though is a lot of devices are only ever going to be set up by a
professional so no like a server or something come on like ubiquity equipment no no no casual is going
to set up a ubiquity access yeah but i think the ubiquity access points are going to be a pretty small
percentage of these things i think they're talking about like wi-fi routers and stuff but what about me
i mean access points basically a wi-fi router you know i would be okay with it with the idea that
this only applied to consumer electronics actually if it didn't apply to like enterprise grade stuff
i'd be fine with that personally yeah screw it you should probably set your stuff up properly whatever
yeah yeah i i they won't do it that way but that would be fine i i would be i would be so much happier
with that but no you're right they probably won't do it that way another thing that i know you're
really happy about is that walmart has come to roblox walmart is piloting a store on roblox where
players can buy a physical item alongside its digital in-game twin the walmart discovered experience
is currently only available in the u.s children over 13 can make purchases so long if they've verified
their age by sending roblox a picture of their government-issued id as well as adding their name
address and credit card information to the roblox-based walmart store walmart previously
attempted to appeal to children through roblox by adding two previous experiences walmart land and
walmart's universe of play however this was met with backlash as walmart failed to properly disclose
that these games uh were also advertisements that was really loud through the mic by the way so the
reason i oh sorry so the reason i brought my phone up just now was to check if i still had the
notification for it because i was going to show you my son requested to install roblox earlier this week
look i the two he's done both of them now i approved fortnight two weeks ago which he's been enjoying a
lot i i had the i had the i had the microtransaction conversation with him again i was like i was like
look okay you're gonna see a lot of your friends are gonna have a lot of like paid items and skins and
stuff in these get in these in this game um okay what are what are they he's like suckers and i'm like
good good boy um i don't know how long that'll last but boy am i ever going to try and keep that mentality because
just to be clear guys what i'm doing right now i don't i don't actually think that's necessarily
true i think there's lots of good reasons that you could uh contribute towards a piece of software
that you really enjoy developers need to be paid i'm not going to make that argument a lot of people
have bad relationships with this the issue is that fortnight is designed to be a money sucking machine
and it is designed to prey on people who have who are either young and immature or who have um
an unhealthy relationship with these kinds of transactions and so what i am doing is i am
i am setting the bar here right knowing that probably he will land here instead of and this is
this is a hope right like i don't know if this parenting strategy works but instead of setting the bar
here and then you know oh dear lord you know he fell down here so i'm basically setting a very very
high level of expectations so if we ever do spend money on a fortnight skin or something like that
the understanding will be that this is an exception this is very this is special this is something very
special merry christmas you got one skin or something along those lines i think the only thing you risk
with that is when they when they become free and they seek the thing that was restricted more sometimes
it can swoop yeah that's way beyond but that's true i don't think it will in this case um i yeah his
his his opinion on what games he liked used to be so incredibly based and now it is becoming not so
and that makes me sad yeah i know but it's okay that's fine we'll draw him back into it i still
haven't shown him warcraft 3 kids are gonna kid sometimes oh yeah and and like realistically
gaming is social that's true so if his friends are playing it it is what it is yeah 100 i agree
i just it just sucks um one thing that i think is pretty funny about this walmart thing is i can
pretty much guarantee you that somebody somewhere is going to complain that you have to buy a physical
item in order to get a digital one which i think is so funny because we get comments complaining that
you have to buy something from ltt store to get a merch message in because they would rather just
send in money and receive nothing and i just think that's so crazy that i know someone is going to be
like i just wanted the digital headphones i didn't want the real headphones i wanted to play a full
headphone dollars for digital headphones not real ones that's going to happen someone's going to do it
i mean in fairness if they don't need another pair of headphones i kind of see where they're coming
from just give them to your friend or something or you could just not need the digital headphones
too that's also an option that's a that's a better idea i mean this is really smart you got to give
credit where it's due this is this is super smart they're definitely going to move some units um
i just ah it's exhausting i think that's the only real word that i can use for it it's just
exhausting like all the new and creative ways that we can be marketed to billions of dollars going
into controlling your brain like dude there is there is so much stuff that's just like like obvious
stuff that ltt store could do in order to sell more like immediately sell more like goofy stuff
like when we did our when we did that video on sports tech so like tech that's branded with sports
team logos and stuff like that man the site that runs most of that stuff in the us it's just
like every stupid mind game is front and center on their site like right now with only four hours
left it's the ultimate sale big ball sale like no it's not you're just going to start a new sale
like fake fake low stock information where they'll try to oh yeah like going out of business left two
left yeah yeah man oh man what is it with mattress stores and being going out of business for like
10 years there's there's one on king george boulevard that the the going out of business
signage is faded yeah like are you you're not kidding you're not fooling anybody what is this
ltdstore.com and roblox i mean you know what i'd be i'd be down i'd be down to do like a wan hoodie
that you can wear in your video game and also you get a you know real life wan hoodie or something like
that i i i don't i don't see that as inherently bad i'm just i'm just kind of tired of having
things shoved down my throat this hard and it feels like uh feels like a lot of people feel that
way uh speaking of having ads shoved down your throat i just thought that i just thought this
was kind of interesting uh the judge in the u.s department the u.s department of justice's
antitrust case against google is currently hearing closing arguments as to whether google's market
dominance has harmed the quality of search spoiler yes the heart of the doj's case
is google's deals with various companies ensuring that google search would be the default on their
platforms in particular google's deal with apple a witness revealed during this trial that google
pays apple 36 of its search advertising revenue from safari in order to remain the default search tool
on the browser in just 2022 this deal resulted in google paying 20 billion dollars to apple android
manufacturers typically get around 12 of this revenue for their own default agreements with
google so one third as much um this is not news necessarily so the closing arguments are happening
now but a lot of this has come out earlier but one of the things that struck me about this
was that it is always interesting to me to see the the the shapes that apple apologists apple loyalists
whatever you want to call them fans right fans you shouldn't be a fan of anything um but that apple
fans will contort themselves into to frame apple as a totally different kind of entity compared to the
other big tech companies and this one this one what stood out to me about this was um it reminded me of
that conversation that we had a little while back about the vpn industry and how sort of you know how our
comfort level is high enough to have vpn sponsors and talk about the benefits of vpn to our audience
but our comfort level is not high enough to run our own vpn and personally say no i understand that
that ip is downloading illicit harmful material um you know it's it's affecting real people you know real
miners and we are not going to give you we're not going to give you that person's information that's just
beyond buying and loose comfort zone we're not going to say no to that so we're just not going
to run a vpn because you can't have a vpn that just decides sometimes to disclose its users um
activities and sometimes doesn't um but what i it reminded me of that conversation because i was
looking at this going how can apple and apple's users look at each other you know across the table and go
i am so protective of your privacy i care so much about it that it is central to basically all my
product messaging and for you to sit there and believe that while i am collecting 20 billion dollars
a year yeah through google's efforts to harvest your data and sell ads against that personalized
collected data i mean apple's conflict of interest here is so obvious and so clear and so brazen
that i just i don't know i just i find it i find it exhausting that it isn't obvious to everyone else
and i think that's become a bit of a problem for me like i end up with people with people looking at
my takes and kind of going like yeah linus linus hates apple or he or he hates this or or he
whatever whatever he thinks about about something and i think part of it is yeah i'm just i'm exhausted
of having the same conversations over and over again and you know the i've i've said this before
i guess i'll do it one more time the thing that drives me most crazy about apple is the utter hypocrisy
of it of their behavior that they that they will put a microsite up on their website about how much
they're saving the planet as they actively send tens of thousands of working devices to uh to a destroyer
like geep jeep however you pronounce it g-e-e-e-p there was a whole lawsuit that apple i think ultimately
dropped because they didn't like the publicity they were getting around pursuing these guys for
ultimately not destroying this working hardware was a whole thing this was a little while back
um i'm not just a hater this is this is not hate this is this is looking at the pieces in motion
looking at the actions they're taking and going is this not obvious to everyone like you can still
like apple products you still buy a f***ing iphone i don't care that's your money you do whatever you
want to know what's happening but why why do you insist why do you insist on not seeing it for what
it is and i just i don't know how to address it like seeing seeing the the antitrust developments
between the u.s government and apple and all the articles that are on sort of the usual uh news sites
that kind of have that traditional article comment format i i read a lot of comments not just on our own
videos not just on videos um a lot of the time i'll skim the article and i'll read the comments
i read a lot faster than i watch video though so i usually will just read an article because i'm a
pretty fast reader um but but going through going through the articles it's amazing even on communities
where generally i have found that the readers are of above average savviness like ars technica i would
say is an example of a site where generally speaking it's pretty hard to get upvoted if you're
a complete f***ing idiot like it just doesn't really happen compared to a site like uh like the
verge is a more normie site but still reasonably savvy compared to um i don't know that that dumb one that
we were showing all the ai comments on a little actually no that one wasn't bad um but anyway the
point is i i would say ars technica is one that has a pretty high high standard of viewership or
readership and i was going through one of the articles on this and the number of people that
were making the but but but my walled garden i love it better in here argument just blew me away
then have your walled garden you can choose those options stay in it yeah it's okay you can close the
door competition is good that is a universal truth and you will not be able to argue that point with
any degree of success against anyone who isn't a complete npc competition breeds innovation it just
does and companies that are not forced to compete will abuse their okay let's not say monopolistic
because that's that's a big part of the argument apple isn't a monopoly they're not a monopoly look at
that you don't have to be a monopoly mono you don't have to be just one to engage in anti-competitive
behavior you can be a local you could be a regional isp that is stomping out even smaller competitors
you are still engaging in anti-competitive behavior even if there's half a dozen other isps in the
country it's that's not the point right that there's just one um and it just it just blows me
away how polarizing this is and how emotional people's arguments are about it when i just
don't get it don't be a fan don't be a fan of apple don't be a fan of intel or nvidia or microsoft or
any of these companies i mean look at man look at the way the tech industry has handled layoffs
lately have you have you seen the supercharger team layoffs there's like yeah tesla supercharger
teams see you later oh nice knowing you um i always like going to that that uh website layoffs.fyi
it's interesting yeah here i'm going to your laptop yeah
in 2024 alone 279 tech companies have laid off 80 230 employees
as soon as you're publicly traded by definition you can't have a soul yeah
yeah that's brutal you can if you poke through this website for a while um you can uh i don't
know i don't remember exactly how to do it it's it's intuitive once you actually start using it but
there's a way to uh sort by like type of company uh because it shows like like fintech companies all
this other type of stuff in there but you can you can narrow it down to different specifics but it's
it's it's a lot of people avon fox says if we don't want fans stop calling them team red team
blue etc that's a good point um and you know what that's one of the that's one of the sort of insidious
subtle ways that um that that they do turn gamers against each other like as far as i remember amd
started that whole team red thing i think so i think that was back in the bulldozer days when
basically they didn't have any product worth buying and all they could count on was selling
to fans and you know what this is tough right because if absolutely everybody bought only the
objectively best product companies would just cease to exist the second monopolies instantly instantly
and so the fact that the fact that you know people that i would no offense but like laugh at behind
closed doors who are buying these like objectively worse products for the same price right like i i
i sorry i'm sorry but i think you're a clown if you know that one thing is objectively better than
the other one and you buy you buy the worst one because it has a brand you like on it i'm sorry
you're a clown i do think sometimes but they saved amd the fact that we have amd today is because absolute
clowns were fans of a company and bought a brand instead of a product i was like you know what thank
you thank you i actually enjoy living in clown world because if we had just intel i do i do
think you're oversimplifying we still have four cores luke because some people just don't care
enough we'd still have four cores so they're not going to do the research something's just going
to be on sale and they're like whatever i need a functioning computer i don't really care and you
know what that's fine yeah that's fine and then other people might have but i didn't talk about that
other people might have subjective reasons why they like or dislike something and other people might
have reasons why they're doing an anything but purchasing i can address all of these okay all
right okay so number one i wasn't talking about that out of ignorance i will absolutely buy the wrong
brand of drill bit sure it happens i i i don't have the time to research absolutely everything in my life
and i understand that some people in fact i'm one of the people who talks about this all the time like
we live in our little tech bubble where everything's obvious to us you know that this one is so much better
than that one how could anybody possibly buy a a 4060 with only eight gigs of vram or you know whatever
the thing we hate du jour is you know i i talk about that all the time how for most people it's as simple
as walking into a retail store and buying whatever the rep hands then that happens to be within their
price range i get that so i'm not talking about people who just just don't know and as for your second
one i forget what it was it was good though it's really good okay so there was ignorance yeah there
was oh just not caring preference i think it was no no that was the third one i thought the third one
yeah the third one was anything but the anything but yes yeah okay so so the so the so the second one
i'm sorry but i just i just don't accept it with a computer processor i can accept it with a water
bottle because this is subjective we were talking about like everything though it wasn't just cpus
we're talking about okay but i'm specifically talking about tech products right now though and
when it comes down to cpus there might still be preference because you might use a certain program
or something that performs better in the other but that's fine that's still objective i'm just saying
that a cpu is not a subjective purchase but that comes down to potentially two products still being
relevant in those days it didn't i agree yeah no that no no that was that was clown days of amd there
was you were if you if you paid full price for a bulldozer you were you were willfully ignorant
basically yeah like those were those were bad you couldn't it was a rough time you couldn't look
even glance at the introduction of a review and not know that it was not dark times it was yeah that it was
dark times for amd back then it was it was a sad it was a sad time as for the anything but i get it
there are definitely companies that i have taken a break from before but i also i also think that
that's kind of a um like i know recently yeah that there are people that have taken risks with
purchasing decisions especially in the gpu department because of some of the things that nvidia has done
i don't necessarily think that that's super wrong and that's fair but what i will say
is don't get stuck in like a place of sort of blind hatred forever yeah because outside of you
know very employees are going to turn over things outside of very senior leadership the company that
you are buying from if you're buying an amd cpu today for example and i'm using amd as an example for
a reason because they have had a significant amount of turnover in the last decade if you buy an amd cpu
today you are effectively buying it from a completely different company oh yeah from who they were 10
especially like if you go back like 15 years ago 100 functionally it's like they're the company of
theseus right like almost every working part has been replaced in that time a lot of companies are
that way so holding so holding grudges against a brand is is entirely silliness um you should
absolutely consider anything they've done recently and if they have a long history of absolutely evil
behavior then that clearly is a deep-rooted cultural issue like i if someone were to say look i'll
buy anything as other than something made by nestle all right fair enough because you know whether you
want to make an argument around like you know the privileged position that they're in today at
all is because of the awful behavior that they have paid zero reparations for or whether you want
to look at their more recent actions you'll have a strong argument for why you just shouldn't buy
anything made by nestle but i think i'll be hard-pressed to find a similar example in the tech space
um nestle was a good call out though i like it yeah well they're just the the most obviously evil
company other than what like maybe chiquita like i who's that that's the banana company oh yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah don't forget about the coke murders never forget the coca-cola
murders there's some wild stuff in the food industry it's actually nuts yeah they literally don't even
their defense was not even that they didn't do it it didn't happen here their defense was that it was
not within the prosecution's jurisdiction you know what they did yes unfortunately there's also lays
i don't forget about the palm oil industry in general like literally palm oil actually destroying
entire nations sick but hey at least it's uh what what was what was the argument for it was like lower
calories healthier or something natural something i forget i forget but yeah yeah yeah yeah sorry for
bringing up palm oil it feels like it feels like some like portal stuff it's like it's lower calories
for the ones who are still alive yeah exactly like dude it's this is one of those things where it's like
i um i i i am not about whataboutism like whataboutism is a super weak argument when someone says hey you
did a bad thing and they point back and they go well what about what about what about there are valid cases
for it yeah if someone is engaging in hypocrisy there's nothing i think that i dislike more than
hypocrisy like if i'm calling out luke for his um get me i don't know his big nose perfect right
actually that's a bad example because it's an inherent trait but my point was just that
my nose is bigger than his so if i were if i were calling
oh come on i don't i don't look at these things i genuinely don't literally royal i can't see
myself on the deluxe i like to describe it as deluxe nose prime yeah nice um i like it or whatever
it is if i am actively engaging in the same behavior or or the same behavior but worse that is absolutely
a valid defense that is not whataboutism that is you're being a f***ing hypocrite and you actually need
to sort out your own before you start talking about anyone else's yeah uh so that's a that's
a completely different thing but you know in general i am not i'm not about whataboutism but i also do
think that in the gaming and in the tech industry we tend to we tend to end up with kind of tunnel vision
on the things that are happening within our space you know i think i think a great example of this was the
uh the principled technologies benchmarking scandal from intel do you even remember this i do yeah
basically someone at intel f***ed up some charts and they got published even though they were
obviously not right and they caused a a very unfavorable comparison to amd that was just
obviously not right i looked at that whole situation i went yeah someone f***ed up there
was issues everywhere and legal problem and whoever they are are high up enough that they can cover their
butts and trying to deal with it they did a pretty bad job and legal probably came in and said look if we
say anything we open ourselves up to a bunch of legal liability because we acknowledge the error
which would mean that amd would have grounds that we have effectively admitted that we are guilty of
doing this when in reality it was probably just some dumb like on the marketing team that didn't
realize that this was a problem um because i can i promise you none of the technical people i thought
there was more stuff like a test bench hidden under a table and all these other things that no i don't
remember maybe this was some other thing it was a small enough thing that it could have easily been
coordinated by like one or two people who didn't who did who just i remember that part who were just
dumb sure just plain dumb and way too and probably didn't listen to any of the smarter people who
absolutely know better i mean that's the thing about organizations as an organization can do something
that was actually just a couple of complete idiots or just like a wicked miscommunication or a wicked
miscommunication i don't think that one was a miscommunication i don't think so either i'm just
saying i think there's a lot of ways for this i think it was someone with too much power and and who was
arrogant and who didn't understand i think it was someone who's being paid more than their understanding
of the technical details of the product is is what i will say um and you know the but the way
that people kind of blew up about this and the kind of conspiracy theories that were spawned from
it i was like look man you guys never heard of hanlon's razor you know hanlon's razor obviously right
i didn't know it was hanlon yeah never never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by
stupidity yeah it is hanlon yeah yeah i know i know hanlon's razor um and i never got anyone from
intel to confirm my version of the story but what i did get was i got on a call where i said look
tell you what how about this tell me that what i'm saying is wrong
and i finished telling my story of how i kind of assumed it happened and then just no one really
responded and then well this was one person that was talking to me off the record because they were just
like you know look i just i don't want people thinking that our whole department is like evil
people and they were basically just like well this has been a nice call and i'll talk to you another
time because it's well it's just obvious if you understand the human elements that go into something
like that it's easier to pick it apart because the the idea that anyone is organized enough to have
coordinated that as like a as like a campaign i mean it's it's it's silly right like it's i think
just while we're on it i think hanlon's razor has a dangerous side of it which is where you if you start
overly making people innocent you make yourself very vulnerable because there is a lot of malice
and that is true and you know what i have multiple times in my life ended up in a bad situation
because i have a tendency to attribute to um misunderstanding as my default but you know
what i just i just don't think i can live my life the other way no i think i think and i'm usually
right i agree and that's it's you know defaulting to malice you're just gonna you're not gonna have
any friends and your life's gonna suck but you just do also have to be aware that there are malicious
people out there absolutely and you can't just like be blind to it forever i want to show this real
quick before we get off the topic by tangenting too hard somehow uh that if if you've heard all
this and you know you still might be into the whole teaming thing you can uh you can jump on amd
fan store.com and get yourself some eight dollar dmd team i don't know like red nose team nice in in
the defense of the cycling jersey i'm pretty sure uh intel has some jerseys as well don't they from
something oh probably yeah nice they don't have that many products a 50 waste pack
60 waste pack sorry i mean they have quite a few products actually at least oh wow i was about to
say at least their worthless swag is priced like worthless swag like their uh their sunglasses were
like 10 bucks but like man that uh i mean that's a tool backpack though that's not just amd
that almost feels like they they produced a bunch of them for staff and they're just
like making them available computer backpack i thought it was commuter
i don't know if you're gonna find the exact same one is it that second one
oh no the zipper goes across like that oh is it that 12 custom uh okay well 12 of them for 1406
why is why is that staples promotional products nice
laptop backpacks all right luke doing the real research here i want to find it
is it an older model got an investigative journalist here
luke luke luke luke come on let's cheer him on i don't think i'm gonna find it it's not here
shop shop it's an older model shop all right that's fine i'm over it oh well i took away your
screen sharing privileges that's fine yeah i didn't i didn't i didn't find it i failed
i'm still looking i don't even remember what our topic was but basically don't be fans
of like especially public companies yeah if you're gonna if you're gonna act like it personally
just uh don't act like it publicly i mean i guess that's an option like there's been uh
speaking of companies you should not be a fan of what now uh-oh 55 bucks hey
hmm all right well that's a good markup
pretty solid solid markup oh 40 40 for a decorated sample though that's to order a sample
they may do discounted samples so i don't i don't don't read too much into this that's true
what does decorated sample mean well this is these guys are these guys are a printing company so you
you would order a custom one and look the minimum order quantity is 12. so they're expect they're
expecting a volume order so that may just be the price for a sample with the expectation that you
will order a bunch and the prices the pricing might be higher so if you want backpacks for your
like team or something like that exactly that's cool speaking of companies you shouldn't be a fan
of youtube has done a lot google has had over well overall an overwhelmingly positive impact on my life
nice nice sorry sorry you are just determined you know what fine you do nice no you do the show
nice oh okay i get it nice thank you for that sorry keep going youtube loves pause ads there i'm
not even gonna try and segue i give up no i don't even care anymore for the past year youtube has been
piloting ads that appear on smart tvs when playback is paused google presented the pilot as a success
in their first quarter earnings call as a non-interruptive ad format that nonetheless
had significant advertiser demand pause ads have likewise been rolled out by roku here's an example
of a youtube pause ad courtesy of tech spot so the image of the show gets smaller and an ad pops
up on the side ooh snack break right around the corner probably fine to be honest really as a user
if you're gonna have an ad somewhere this seems the least intrusive i don't like my ui moving around
like i really don't like that when i go to pause something and then replay it i i really don't
like my button to move um i think it wouldn't though realistically i'm not going to see it anyway though
so i guess this is also yeah and if you if you're pressing do you would you generally press in the
middle of the screen yeah because the middle of the screen here is still the player and you don't have
to click on the play icon for it to play you just have to click on the player this is true so it
would still work i'm still mad there
i mean i don't i mean it's not like i like it to be clear i just think of
yeah you're right here first luke likes pause ads oh my goodness of all the things that they could
do that's going to be a site very soon luke likes pause ads.com should put him on float plane
no no see he's already working on it that's why he says no because now we're on to his devious plan
to put pause ads on float plane they're gonna riot luke they're gonna riot these are our most loyal
customers why would you do that to them what we are working on is getting uh official captions so
that'll be nice oh that's cool yeah like are they like like machine learning generated whisper generated
and then there will be an option for manual upload as well wow that's pretty cool yeah that's
going to save the social team a lot of work yeah are they the main driver of this uh they've
definitely asked for it but i think we just we hit a bit of a milestone in regards to like
site stuff so the the whole like angular to react upgrade thing finished and our new transcoding
system is reinstated is instated is that a correct way of saying that i don't know whatever um
both of those happen at a relatively similar period of time so like future development is bubbling
again which is good sick all right yeah i think it's time for when show after dark nice have we
done all the major topics uh major topics yes there are other ones oh there are wait google play
celebrates sonic oh wait we didn't talk about the rabbit r1 ah let's do it in the dark nice nice
do you want me to do the sonic thing while you're doing that google play celebrates sonic but gets
every single fact wrong last saturday the official google play twitter account posted a strange thread
supposedly showing off the changes in sonic the hedgehog's design over the last 30 years however
literally every post in the entire thread is incorrectly labeled and inaccurate
each has been corrected with a community note uh some have suggested that the thread was
generated using ai and posted without human oversight however google has yet to either remove or
address the thread despite widespread news coverage this is so weird and like the image that they even put of sonic
looks ai generated
i don't know where's the shadow over his this is sonic as he appears in sonic boom never mind
it's possible that google play have confused it for the game sonic cd which did with 93 the the reason why
i said that is because his hand here which is like placed on his hip is not actually touching his hip
so i was like maybe it's some ai stuff but engagement engagement engagement shot from inside the
i don't think so i actually don't think so either it's weird i think it's just shockingly poorly
again hanlon's razor i think it's just shockingly poorly researched you don't you don't think it's ai
stuff no i don't think so i think this is too wrong to be ai i don't think an ai would get everything
wrong like like what some stuff what ai did they use for that yeah yeah fair enough i don't think i believe
that yeah all right us government adds foxes to ai henhouse thing whatever this means
us homeland security has created a new artificial intelligence safety and security board which is
intended to meet once every financial quarter to discuss partial practical recommendations for the
us government on how to best manage the threats posed by ai development yeah let's meet let's meet once
a quarter nice no no this is great though the board has 23 members including sam altman of open ai
satya nadella of microsoft sandar pichai of alphabet and dario amodei amodei sorry of anthropic
as well as jensen huang of nvidia there are also representatives from adobe amazon amd cisco
ibm delta airlines and northrop grumman this has led to criticism of the potential of regulatory
capture and excessive industry influence seriously your ai safety and security board
is basically just made out of companies that profit from ai so the the u.s homeland security
has created a new artificial intelligence safety and security board also known as a a pre-planned
lobbying meeting that happens once a quarter so they can make ridiculous amounts of money
also i love that uh they have sam altman and satya nadella in the same meeting as if they're
representing like two very distinctly different companies when it's like yeah yeah sure now there
are other members mostly civil rights experts academics and politicians though there's the odd
inclusion of vicky holub president and ceo of occidental petroleum an energy company that is interested in
incorporating ai just interested our discussion question is what is a good amount of industry
involvement to have in these kinds of oversight slash recommendation bodies i mean obviously you
have to have some because otherwise you watch the average politician try to talk about cutting edge
technology and you just you just about die right like it's what would you think about a rotating seat
yeah i could see that being kind of interesting because i i could see being frustrated like
if you're not one of the companies that gets selected but you're like trying to fight against
some of these companies yeah hearing different hearing different corporate voices from time to time
means with how little these guys are aligned with each other on there's there's certainly the
opportunity to learn about their businesses without being unduly influenced by their businesses but this
yeah this seems hilarious like just laughably one-sided um and good luck with that all right time for
some merch messages yeah jerry we got a few here for you oh this should be a good one to start on after
dark hello wanda dll last night my fiance almost puked her stomach out what was the situation where you
were most worried about someone i'm waiting for my backpack to be shipped which variant i'll get childbirth
yeah that makes sense um i was i was deeply worried ivan's first labor was over 24 hours
um and it was uh it was it was a grueling ordeal neither of us slept um
and uh our first child was in the 99th percentile for head circumference have you ever seen ivan
i mean i was unfortunate i was on the yard podcast and i described her as good breeding stock um
but that doesn't necessarily mean that she has 99th percentile head circumference hips yeah yeah um so so
that was why that was uh that was why she ended up with the old uh on the first one thankfully she was
able to to safely when do you make this maybe too personal i don't know when do you make that call
like because you said 24 hours uh the baby's heartbeat uh started to uh drop or the blood
pressure or maybe it goes up i forget what it is but basically some measurable metric baby was in
distress and they hucked her on a gurney um and this is actually how she lost most of her jewelry
uh because we put it all in a bag because you're not supposed to wear jewelry during an operation
they couldn't get her engagement ring off her finger because it was so swollen uh so fortunately
we didn't lose that but everything else i put into a bag and i left in the room and it was gone by the
time we came back from the or which was really unfortunate she had some really nice earrings
and a necklace and stuff that's frustrating yeah i mean it's fine you know what if she needs a new
necklace hon shout out i'll get you a necklace this weekend just let me know like things went okay for
us in life so it's fine but um you know there was a really nice pair of tanzanite earrings that she had
that were quite sentimental because they were like the first earrings i'd ever bought her and stuff like
that so that really sucks but you know other than that it was mostly just just the the panic of like
okay it's go time go now uh we need to go do this so do you like pre-approve that like if something
goes wrong we will do this thing that wasn't an option okay because just letting her die
and also like letting the baby letting the baby die it could have impacted either of them got it
having a having a you know at risk of this being very graphic having a deceased infant child inside
you is like not good for mom either bad yeah yeah so like the whole thing makes sense the whole thing
was was was very stressful and then our son was actually in the intensive care unit for almost the
first week um because he wasn't eating like the the birthing process had been extremely exhausting
for him as well um yeah that that first that that birthing process and that first week was like
was this a good call it was pretty stressful
yeah sheesh yeah it was tough um i forget what the rest of the question was but i was worried about
someone you've been he's ordered a backpack what variant is he going to get uh if we're out of stock
then you'll get the new ones coming in stock which are the final underscore final v2 variant um
otherwise you're getting what you're getting and then it'll have a virtual warranty for the second
layer and we will definitely get you the upgraded carabiners once they are in stock and once they've
shipped out to everyone who has already ordered so speaking of dead kids what advice do you have
in keeping kids safe online i mean you just you got to talk to them that's the that's the only choice
that's what everyone says and that's the truth if you're looking for another answer i'm afraid you're
not going to find it here bucko hey dll picked up a windbreaker which i love and have a couple
questions about it what are the small pockets inside the main pockets for and why are they different
sizes i love the show for all the sex you'll be having
what they're wearing ltt store merch
i don't know i jokingly refer to uh like some of our little pockets as condom pockets because
realistically they're not really useful we just really like putting pockets on things we think
they're cool you use it for an air tag you use it for like an air pod little holder thing
yeah there's definitely stuff you can use it for yep some people put cards in them small battery bank
yep ahoy dll i noticed one of your recent videos had a generic voiceover correction and i was wondering
what are your thoughts on using synthesized ai voiceovers for scenarios like this it's super
convenient like when i'm traveling and i'm not around to shoot a pickup if they can just change a word with ai
that's sick it's pretty sweet like realistically no job is getting replaced right like the job of
you know holding a holding a laptop running audacity or a little recorder thing in a mic under me
is replaced by the job of you know entering the text in order to make that edit like like nothing's
being replaced we're just doing it differently in a way that doesn't require me to come to set uh which is
great love it you'll see more of it or wait you mean the generic one oh yeah i'm not as big of a fan
of like tick tock voice style ones um but i think that the team likes to do it when they think it's funny
and that's just like a kind of humor i don't really get but i you know what i i don't like to stand in
the way of just like silly little creative decisions like that on the weekend we went up to the stave
lake power plant thing the you can do the tour pretty cool actually but um afterwards i was
dragged into an antique shop and the person working at the antique shop was listening to
a fully as far as i could tell fully ai generated biography on someone and i could tell the voice i
could hear it so i could tell the the second i heard the voice i was like oh that's like one of
those generic ai voice things and i told everyone that was with me um and i kept listening to it
kept listening to it determined that it was probably an ai script as well due to the how it was worded
and stuff weird and then uh emma was talking to the the person and partway through the conversation
they mentioned like yeah i'm watching this biography thing i think it might be fake but i'm not sure
man we're so screwed by the way sifran in float plane chat says why does everyone keep trying
to pretend jobs aren't being replaced seems silly to pretend it's not going to happen he's not doing
that that never happened context matters for crying out loud why are you trying to pretend that he said
that i'm talking about a very specific thing when we are making an edit to our video with our team
doing the work on our product like it's um that is not a case where ai is is is taking our jobs but
that doesn't mean that i'm saying that that isn't going to happen absolutely it's going to happen
it's happening now it's already happened and it will continue
for live laugh and dove if you could have uh if you could eliminate all of one cuisine from each
other's diet which one would the fight for the most oh i mean luke would not allow me to cut chicken
out of his diet i might as well tell him to just cut off his own head what would i do i don't know
probably die well you'd waste away first if and then die if my diet had to stay exactly the same
like if i didn't get to change anything and you were able to remove chicken i might actually just
eventually yeah budgies and when we talked about that earlier he said chicken not poultry he said cuisine
den we can we can stop talking about eating budgies now wow um sorry okay so if you if you could if
you could had to okay which one would i fight for the most to eliminate what's your favorite color of
well yeah you know you gotta you have to you have to eliminate uh a cuisine from my diet what would i
fight for the most you fight for the most i think cuisine is an interesting word for the thing that i'm
thinking of but here hold on i'm gonna write down my answer let's see if you can get it would chicken
even be considered a cuisine oh for luke it's a cuisine i mean frank's red hot okay be the most
let's see if you can get it what's the thing i would fight for most
the answer is going to be so obvious once you get it that you're either going to get it and you're going
to nail it and you're going to be like yeah i know or you're going to not get it and you're going
to be like i'm a idiot so those are the only two options i'm afraid i wonder if you know this though
yeah i don't feel like i'm that confident in this
because there's quite a few things that he's fairly passionate about in regards to food actually
and they're quite different cuisine how are we defining cuisine loosely okay yeah i'm not worrying about it
yeah i don't know i feel like i'm wrong but i just default to cereal the first thing i thought
it was cereal
yeah okay yeah because the other contender that i had was pickles but i was like i feel like it's
not on the same level yeah no it's it's high i like pickles but i'll i'll go six months without
eating a pickle yeah exactly and i've seen that happen if i go a week without eating cereal the first
thing i do when i walk in the door at home like sometimes i don't even say hi to all of my family members
i will go and eat a bowl of honey nut cheerios or like honey nut checks or whatever whatever i'm
into that at that point like i'm i i like um i was less confident until you said i was less confident
until you said that we were loosely defining it as uh loosely defining cuisine because i was like is he
talking about burgers maybe like his own burgers yeah like some of that oatmeal crisp like wild berry
but i'll throw in like extra cranberries you can tell it's not burgers because he completely ignored
that and just kept talking about cereal you know what i was i was gonna write down would also accept
burgers because okay all right so i sort of sort of got it but i think the burgers is half of it's the
act of making them yeah yeah yeah i mean i don't know what i would i don't know what i would like
serve guests because yeah i don't personally like chicken wings that much or like like drumsticks and
stuff but like that's such a barbecue staple so if i couldn't throw burgers on the grill man what would
i even like like hot dogs really like it's fine for some people not everyone likes hot dogs whereas
like if you have hot dogs and hamburgers and you offer a veggie version of both pretty much everyone
is going to eat nobody's going to be like nah i'm gonna leave hungry yeah yeah yeah i have no idea for
dan as far as i can tell that dan will happily just literally eat nothing that's right shut up shut your
mouth so it's like what do you what do you coffee what do you threaten him to take away it's not food
dan that's not cuisine well it's my breakfast oh i almost got luke there's no water in here no i forgot
to give you my one chance no got him uh souls hey hey dll uh first off great name dan thanks dan uh
second great question for linus i'm moving apartments soon and will be repainting it that's not really a
question what advice do you have for that satin or eggshell how do i prep the walls oh all right well
um the product that people use for prepping the walls i think it's called tsp for a wall prep um
yeah there you go to clean walls with tsp blah blah blah bucket of warm water um it's better than
using bleach because there are certain kinds of i think it's mildew that will actually eat
uh compounds in bleach so you can actually end up like having more mildew with that said if you have
if you have mildew on your interior walls that's probably um you've probably got other issues and
you're talking yeah i think i think you're talking about interior walls so the first thing you want
to do is just wipe down the walls um lightly lightly soapy water will work to wipe them down just
whatever you do do not leave a soap film on them you've got to make sure that you get that off
and then um after that i would say you know figure out what kind of paint's on there if it's a really
old house it might have oil-based paint which means that you'll have to pick a special product that is
designed to go over top of oil-based paint almost nobody paints with oil inside the house anymore and
certain latex products will just peel right off of an oil paint like they won't adhere at all
so make sure that you figure out what's on there you can use a little bit of acetone on a rag if it comes
off it's latex based if it doesn't come off then it's oil-based you got to watch out for that just
let the paint store know and then beyond that i mean satin versus eggshell is just a finish right
so you got to decide on a product um i would just i would say avoid avoid cheap paint get a good quality
paint one that has good coverage and buy less of it because you'll find that a lot of the time the
cheaper product is just going to cover worse and you're going to end up doing another coat of it anyway
um i like eggshell finish for walls i like semi-gloss for trim very very traditional very very classic
i mean people obviously do other things if i was painting a bathroom or a kitchen i would consider
a glossier coating even for the walls just to make it more scrubbable but basically you can either
have uh like there's different kinds of um additives you can only suspend so much in the paint
suspension um so you can add uh coloring pigments you can add blocking pigments which will which will
cover up what's underneath which will help them to to cover better uh you can add um resin there's only so
much you can suspend in it and so when you have these different finishes uh the more uh the more resin you
have in it uh one of the nice things about it is the the more durable it is resin's really good for uh
hardening it but it makes it more glossy and the glossier it is the more it shows imperfection so that's
why eggshell which is not a color it is the texture of an egg shell um and it has like a little bit of
sheen to it but it's mostly flat that's why it's a really nice middle ground between being durable enough
to scrub with a with a washcloth but also um matte enough that it hides imperfections well you wouldn't
believe how not flat your drywall is it's not flat i promise you it looks like no matter who your
contractors are no matter how fresh the job was it looks like it's terrible and and that's that's not
their fault sheetrock's really hard to deal with and getting it extremely flat is i forget what because
i i had um talked to our contractors about how we have these sconces in our theater room and they
shine down and you can really see the like bulges in the walls you can see where the mud is yeah um
between the drywall sheets because of just the angle of the light i'm like hey so this wall isn't very
flat and they're like yeah i'm like right but it's not very flat and they're like yeah but if you want
it flat that's called i think it's called like a level four finish or something like that and they're
basically like yeah it takes like 10 times as long or something like that you want to pay for it i'm like
nah like okay then uh then i think we've uh then i think we've reached a conclusion here yeah um
so so that's that's what eggshells for is it'll help hide those imperfections
um i use high gloss for anything you're going to touch so like a banister or railing anything like
that you should be using a high gloss paint he didn't say it was particularly durable he said it
was a happy medium yeah guys it's durable enough why what is the point of saying i said a thing i didn't
say stop it the number of times man i read on the internet a thing that i said that i
completely never said at all it's actually kind of incredible i say so much stuff it's so easy to
nail me on stuff i've said why go for the stuff i didn't say what's the point oh man it's pretty
funny anyway um have fun you know it's a fun project put down drop sheets there is no such thing as a job
that's so small you shouldn't bother to put down a drop sheet
hi dan's hands and linus and luke's voice if you were given the ability to advance one piece of
technology or breakthrough what would you progress for example battery technology hydrogen fuel cells
the two examples that they gave were fantastic yeah that's like honestly i would have taken
batteries um yeah fine i'm gonna go with screens then i would make them so much more power efficient
that i don't need as much battery hey i turned it around it's basically batteries now got them i was
gonna go with a more kind of broader tech and just uh mixed reality glasses that look like normal
glasses that actually look like normal glasses you know it's funny that's the product that i had in
mind when i said screens there you go nice on the same wavelength heck yeah computer brain interfaces
hey lldxc otr trucker here uh just got my tax write-off t-shirt it's officially a work shirt for a
write-off if you had to live out of a semi-truck what tech would you take with you loving the ally
thank you they took my answer again i would
gosh darn it i mean i would definitely take like whatever the baller starlink is if i can get away
with it like having actually good internet on the road would be pretty big deal a huge deal for me the
ally is sick yeah um
how much how much power like
i guess you're usually when you're stopped you're going to be stopped at a stop like a truck stop
or a destination or some kind i'm assuming yes and no like sometimes you're just on the side of the
road you're in the pullover how much power do you have when you're stopped there i mean that's a good
question i've never driven a big rig professionally believe it or not yeah i don't know paint house yes
big drink drive no yeah not so much because i'd most of the people that i've talked to that do this
type of stuff have battery powered things which makes me think that you're charging them at a truck
stop or something and then potentially using them when you're not there so you probably don't have a ton
of power available um unless you're running your truck which you probably don't want to just waste all
that fuel um probably not yeah probably not um i could see electric trucks being kind of cool for
that actually the allies probably kind of killing it right there
wow cop-out answer well i'm i'm thinking because like you i've seen people have like playstations and
tvs in their rigs when they when they have like the bed set up you know they have those ones not all
of them have those but when when you have like the bed set up you've seen like at the foot of the
bed there's a tv and they have a playstation there and that's pretty cool i've seen that a
few different times one thing that i've always kind of wondered about is why you don't see like
some crazy maybe i just haven't seen it but like a pc gamer guy who has his truck set up but there's a
computer the power draw is pretty high i think you just wouldn't see it because i know i definitely
know of some that have nazs in their trucks for example to carry media around okay that's kind of sick
like i would definitely have a nas in my truck that's pretty cool especially if i didn't have my
starlink if i have starlink i don't need it as much but if i didn't that's my backup is i would
have like a sick naz with a whole bunch of media okay the sleeper trucks have a small diesel generator
on them providing 1500 watts usually interesting interesting i feel like yeah i am still copping
out but i feel like the ally is just kind of a sick option it is sorry it is hey we've got updates for
smash champs what's that what's that look at that a sneak peek at our concession and seating
area wow so this will be the concession and then it looks like a normal kitchen look all right we
didn't reinvent kitchens i'm sorry didn't even innovate this will be a author small seating area
what else we got oh we got more stuff what's this is this the viewing area this is the retail store
oh no downstairs yeah so there's our uh slat walls so we're gonna put what's the yellow thing products
on there that is a light for the construction oh okay yep nice nice all the audio stuff came in
this stringer our stringing machine you just have one we got two nice
are you still gonna string your own rackets no
man i'm i'm gonna use my owner privilege so hard
and be like hey guys do you mind taking one of these rackets for me
and then i'll pay is that gonna affect the the manager's numbers shouldn't i'll pay it's fine
nice nice but i like might expect it to be done pretty quickly what should you probably shouldn't
pay they should just track how many times you do it because then you're just giving you're just
it's just more taxes for no reason that's true actually but technically i'm supposed to pay those
taxes that is definitely a personal badminton racket
never mind of course you should pay very good
not financial advice
yes more yes luck i see you're going to be attending open source this year are there
any specific open source programs or platforms that you're hyped to see being developed
uh so many of them ffmpeg it's it's like so underrated it it it runs like
so many things and you don't hear people really talk about it very often you just hear people talk
but like i mean we talk about flowplane and maybe i don't mention it enough so i'm trying to give it
credit right now uh but ffmpeg is like incredibly amazing um and our our internet offerings would be a
lot worse without it i'll say that much um so there i'll say that one i'm always excited when they keep
pushing things forward
so i'm guessing i fell for your cunning plan when i submitted that dead pixel bug report
what are your favorite examples of easter eggs like this on websites
i always loved the little dinosaur jump game that you could play when a page didn't load in chrome
and that was probably my personal favorite in the past isn't it still a thing maybe i think
somebody made a multiplayer version of it i can't remember if that was a thing maybe i'm crazy
play chrome dino game press space to play yeah there you go
do do do do do do do do do do do do do chrome dino multiplayer look at that no way
this feels too easy it gets harder right didn't somebody make a hot dog to play yeah
yeah somebody like mechanically automated uh
basically a cheat for the game and then i think he got a job seriously yeah i think they hired him that's
amazing man i think it was just a sensor on the screen that when it detected the like darker color
yeah but you gotta you gotta jump you gotta crouch you gotta uh do it it gets faster can you crouch
they're down yeah you gotta duck under uh i can't look at my arrow keys right now
it's just a down arrow uh i can't see them i didn't know you had to are you sure you have to
i don't think you can crouch dan are you messing with me what is happening right now okay i've never seen
dark code dude he's gaming right now so sweaty did you guys know this is the guy that beat ludwig
shut up a dick
someone should challenge him to this dino jump game
i wonder what the high score is for this it's probably whatever it is it's embarrassing well i think
they've made the the the bot that just does it right so like you're gonna beat the bot i don't
think there's crouching dan i think you're wrong i'm not well how do you crouch why would you crouch
maybe they changed it because in a single thing they changed it for because it has dark mode
you're gaslighting all of us gaslighting's not real
and if it was it wasn't my fault there was there was crouching i'm not crazy
i swear it's down arrow did they remove that because it's it switches between light and dark and there
it was definitely crouching i don't remember it switching between light and dark mode and i'm
pretty sure i've played it for longer than that before and it seems to do it on a pretty regular
basis yeah okay this needs to actually just kill me at some point here and i you're too good
i know there was crouching okay uh where are we what are we doing well if you beat that score then
you're a better gamer than ludwig i guess yep 100 that's how it works i think yep if i beat ludwig and you
beat me then you beat ludwig by definition bigger fish right that's how it works hey luke i'm a
self-taught software engineer who started my professional career about a year ago nice what
are your thoughts on companies that crunch to meet deadlines and how does floatplane compare i mean
we've done it um it's extremely uncommon like extremely i don't remember the last time we've done it
and when we do it it's generally not me driven if that makes sense um i i recognized a long time ago
that i actually enjoy those activities because i don't know my brain's broken or something um but
that generally that is significantly frowned upon so i have taken on a a stance of like if other people
are just doing it by default i will generally you know join in and not stop them but i try not to
impose it because i think that's bad i think we're also fairly blessed to be in an industry where we
mostly set our own deadlines for things um i think you run into some problems and things like the gaming
industry when you're announcing the launch of a game and then say you discover issues with the game
ahead of the launch and you're like oh my goodness we need to fix all this stuff or whatever uh so you
announce the launch of a game and then you do a play test and it's horrible so you're trying to
improve it for whatever reason then you're crunching because of that like there's there's a lot of
industries where crunch is more real for for more real reasons if that makes sense maybe your piece
of software has to match up with a piece of hardware and uh you're a driver team to be ready
you company to be ready on time for the launch or whatever like there's there's there's situations
where it can maybe make sense as as annoying and frustrating as it is it can maybe make sense
i don't think it often makes sense with floatplane um i can appeal to you guys and i've done it where
we i'm saying we're going to work on something and then we end up working on something else or we we
make some change uh and then i just like you know apologize to you guys on wancho explain why we made the
change what we're pivoting to what you guys can get instead etc and then people are usually actually
pretty cool with it and i appreciate that and that saves our developers from crunch um not entirely
yeah it helps though sometimes they crunch even when you tell them not to explicitly that can
actually frustrating be a genuine very large problem because people will burn out from that
and i'm like well hold on i'm telling you not to keep working it's not this is not reverse
psychology actually don't do that yeah like don't work on the weekend take your weekend off it's
actually better for all of us like just just my favorite line we had an employee at one point that
was very problematic that way and my favorite line with them was always just like you're no good to
me dead yeah um like i don't know how to be more explicit than just don't yeah yeah it's um
and it's frustrating because i think there's some like human spirit in the the desire to like
push really hard and wanting to help the team and stuff like that like i get it i understand it's
it's it's driven by positive things yeah but it can but i need you to be here on monday and functional
and happy yeah i don't want to it's it's like i don't want to i don't it's not constructive for
anyone if you're like cranky and burnt out yeah or if you like miss things in your personal life
because you're pushing for it and then those people are complaining at you and then therefore
you're upset and all this kind of stuff inevitably that resentment makes it back to work it's like but i
didn't ask you to do that yeah so so we're a little bit privileged to be in a situation where
we're not running into situations too often where it's like super super required yeah
other other industries are not as privileged and i think sometimes those industries will recognize
that they're in that state and then abuse it yeah because people getting into that industry will
understand that that will happen but they don't necessarily understand how much it will happen because
the company leans on it intentionally and that's really bad but it's also not always
true i don't know it's just okay what's next hey dll with msi dropping amd gp sorry yeah with a
msi dropping amg gpus is msi trying to wound nvidia the focus on ai will nvidia need a brand partner with
no ties to amd gpus to handle products with lesser margins uh if anything uh nvidia tends to reward their
most loyal servants with the products that have the higher margins that higher margin has turned
into more and more of a pittance over the years to the point where evga ultimately walked away from
the business but um as for why msi seems to be quietly dropping amd gps yeah i'd say it's a strategic move
i mean it's not like msi is giving up their partnership with amd overall they're clearly still developing
motherboards for amd ryzen platforms but um it's been very clear for some time that amd is just
not competitive on the gpu side of things and it doesn't look like there's any obvious light at the
end of that tunnel so strategically if i was msi seeing the long time partnership with nvidia and
kind of going okay if someone's gonna blink and walk away from the radeon partnership why shouldn't
it just be us like why are we why are we sabotaging the 85 90 of the business that we're doing on our
discrete cards with nvidia over this like handful of stupid radeon gpus that realistically some of them
we're probably spending more developing than we're actually making back in the margins on these things
it's not like there's a ton of money in selling radeon cards either
i think if that was xfx i'd be kicking myself pretty hard at this point
because they'd be the last game in town they were exclusive nvidia until they went exclusive amd
yep you talked about the ltd wallet about a year ago on wanshow any updates still in development dead
hey dll what is lab's policy on ai scraping if it's not allowed have you heard about tools like
nightshade or have you considered an ai chatbot of your own good old can't beat him join him
i'm not familiar with nightshade specifically we talked about it when oh did we um i forget
which one that is we're not doing a lot of that stuff yet we it's very possible we will do like
poisoning tools at some point um there's also some groups that are trying to develop like
you know like a robots.txt oh that nightshade yeah okay uh there's groups that are trying to come
up with like a effective equivalent for scrapers that tells them that it's not wanted um so if
that happens we'll probably do that i don't know it's it's a problem that we need to solve eventually
but right now we're more focused on getting our processes down uh getting our article uh publication
schedule down and making sure the quality is really tight uh we have a key our first keyboard article up on
the site right now just gonna show yeah yeah yeah so we have the apex three up including
force graphs for different keys you can select any key you want how cool is that
it's my screen right now pretty neat oh here dang it oh we both clicked ours at exactly the same time
i was doing a whole thing i realized you were you were talking yeah so you can select different keys and
you can see the force that we measured on those different keys because remember the key cap itself
has a different weight to it so even if you use exactly the same key switch uh you won't necessarily
have exactly exactly exactly the same experience we've got some we've got some cute little videos
here why is this not on flow plane i don't know we'll figure it out later uh showing latency testing
um we've got our average wired latency yeah good stuff right it's gonna take time it's gonna take
time to the dev team that is the correct way to do it right now don't worry about it yes do not crunch
yourself into a a freely accessible float plane player though the architecture of float plane is not
designed for free video distribution just designed to be authenticated so we would have to actually do a
significant amount of work is my understanding in order to make a free player that we can use our
float plane cms to upload to so we'll see and if you there's there's just so many other things we can
work on and youtube is just so free it's right there it's right there and it's free yeah i get it i get it
it yeah hi lld linus and lou what was one of your most impactful celebrity or person of clout encounters
that you've had who was it and how did meeting this person either changed and then it's cut off
it's changed you changed your outlook on life it definitely didn't really change my outlook on life
but i like this story um do you remember when you had that talk with markiplier like a billion years
ago and you're talking about like hosting and stuff this is this would have been like seven
years ago or something i did not know that i had met markiplier i don't think i don't know if you met
him or not i know you talked to him really yeah cool you talked to him about hosting and you talked
about my hosting blah blah blah so i knew he knew who we were anyways that's the only part of the context
that i totally forgot about that yeah he's kind of a big deal we my my friends and i were going to
pax prime and we stopped in at starbucks because a bunch of my friends want coffee i don't drink
coffee whatever but i noticed that he's standing there off on the side and no one's noticed him yet
the reason why i know no one's noticed him yet is because the entire restaurant wasn't hoarding him
right because he's kind of a big deal yeah a little bit and i saw him standing over there and he was
like mostly kind of keeping his head down and i think with intention because it's pretty early in
the morning you just want some freaking coffee yeah i don't blame them um and i saw him and we kind
of locked eyes and i just head nodded and he had nodded and we went back to ignoring each other and
i was like cool that's pretty awesome yeah it's like that's i'm happy that this didn't turn into
like a thing i'm happy i was able to not bother him in that moment and it was just like i don't know it
was pretty cool yeah that's about it i don't think like i don't think i've been hugely impacted by a
uh meeting a celebrity of any kind
um trying to remember i'm trying to remember what his name is
um man the star bomb guy someone help me out here star bomb guy yeah ego raptor that's right oh yeah
yeah i've told this story before but i i met him at an event and i didn't realize who he was he like
was talking to me about maybe we could like use his like live production company services at some
point if we ever wanted to do like a tour or something i i was like networking and stuff and
he seemed cool and everything but i didn't realize who he was until i like looked up his name in the
elevator and uh i had to like go find him later in the event i was like yo i had no idea who you were
i like grew up watching your cartoons and stuff bad respect see you later that's pretty cool that's
actually pretty cool yeah i mean that's the thing right about animators right like it's and he does
so many different voices it's not like you would just know from his voice unless you unless you know
as you like are a game grumps watcher or something yeah which i wasn't yeah because i i believe he did
the animated stuff for a long time before he started showing up yeah like i watched his stuff on like
new grounds yeah like it exactly first merch message glad to be here simple question when
car focused channel i love tech and i love cars and i want to make me a tech and car youtube channel
sandwich then watch every car video that we upload to the other channels and the more we can make the
pitch for financial viability the more we will be able to make that dedicated channel or channels
in the future it's a super crowded space though guys it's not like we can just walk in and
immediately have a reason for being um i definitely have a lot of thoughts but you know reviewing products
is a ton of work and i think right now our main focus is on just making sure that our that our tech
videos are solid um cars will come when they come hi luke i am studying data analytics and in the
process of building a website that utilized a database to budget my money and save receipts
how did you decide what to use for flowplane and then designing it linus led development let's go
i want an excel database luke how do you decide what to use for flowplane no no no none of that
was linus led development he had no idea at all
hey hey hey hey hey we wouldn't use cloudflare today if it wasn't for me
i forced him to call them i think we would be using them today okay today we probably would but it
would have taken a lot longer it would have taken a while longer he was so stubbornly determined he
was determined that they were not going to work for ddos protection for our site i mean stuff still
got through i was still a little bit right but i wasn't right enough you were not nearly right enough
um why are you making a website for this um in the process of building a website that utilized
dvs i hope you don't actually hold that conviction are we we're not allowed to talk anymore no no no no
no if it's just for fun that's cool if you want something i i would honestly really suggest why
we monetize our hanging out
all my all my hobbies are monetized as well i'm no i'm no better yeah so what are you what are you
talking about um i i think you'd be better off just doing fancy google sheets um and like learning
how to do fancy things with google sheets because i think a lot of people don't realize at all how
powerful it is with its ability to link to other sheets and things um there's also looker studio now
which they renamed big data studio and you can use it's now big data studio no it used to be now
it's looker studio which is google is a different thing than they killed the other one no it's just a
dumb it is a dumb name tell us how you really feel so stupid and that can have uh google sheet
databases yeah excel is better except excel isn't remotely accessible okay guy what about office 365
got him ah it's bad the web version is bad all right uh it's okay so the decisions let me let me get
to the root of this how do you decide what to use for flow plane uh and then designing it we i mean i
tried to make some decisions with jake uh and we wrote down our pretty bad decisions and then aj and
then aj was like hold on yeah and then we went with what aj said for the most part and then i
fun fact he still works for float plane yeah it's great that aj um i had the team at the time
religiously read the netflix blog i would i would post it in our slack every time they posted in your
article i like how you refer to it as the team yeah it's like you and aj and some volunteers yeah
heck yeah there was volunteers back then that's true it's more people um but yeah we would read the
netflix blog and we we got a lot of our early info because my info on it was like a lot of these
websites are not sharing information on how they're making their video websites it was very closed back
then very very closed and then there's netflix just being like hey here's how we do basically
everything and i was like okay well this isn't exactly what we're trying to build but it's pretty
close so let's take some ideas from these you know people that are clearly doing a great job of this
and try to mirror a lot of what they're doing and it worked quite well for us for a while and now
we've kind of pivoted onto our own things now that we have a lot of experience in the space
um but yeah we we learned from another player in the space that has been doing really well if
you're doing it for fun do that if you're not doing it for fun seriously consider something like
google sheets instead of making a website for this yeah okay here's a here's a good one hey dll
nearly a year has passed since taryn took over as ceo what are some challenges and positive
developments observed since linus stepped down basically a year review i mean it's easier for
you guys to answer this one have you noticed anything positive or are things just generally worse
uh we feel more like a real company you can take that however you want um
um oh i'll take it oh my oh my um i think what are some of the challenges i don't think there's been
a ton of challenges particularly pertaining to that to be clear um i think taryn has a
i don't know what it's like a completely different food but it tastes the same
so it's cereal but it isn't but it like you eat like a cereal flavored candy bar and you're like
wait so it's a cereal bar yeah
i don't know it's like it's it's very similar but it's not the same like taryn has a different
approach to things and a different style but they're clearly highly related overall the guiding
star is the same i mean it's not like i would have brought in someone who's just gonna
yeah yeah so but that's that's i don't i don't think there's a lot of like new challenges because
of that if that makes sense i mean we're definitely we're definitely doing some stuff differently like
our entire leadership team which is about a almost a fifth or a quarter of a company some somewhere in
there uh is doing like executive leadership training right now but i think that's a positive
development oh you were trying to think of a challenge yeah
i mean he's remote still like half the time i consider that a challenge but i guess for most
people it probably doesn't make much of a difference no because you you were too spread
thin anyways so you weren't there anyways yeah that's fair so like yeah what difference does it
make all right fair enough if anything there's probably more time being spent because when he is
here half the time that he's here that's more time so i don't know someone asked for more french terry
hoodies and someone else sniped me on the reply i said k sorry i think i just showed that one
uh okay last one i've got for you here linus i just purchased an s2 del mar for my daily commute
i have no idea what that is i will go look it up while you continue to read
what is your favorite bike gear accessories safety equipment or tech likely will order a break free
it looks cool i mean yeah it looks sick the s2 del mar uh i don't know it doesn't really oh yeah it
kind of looks like it yeah i think it's electric far ranging fast charging absolutely that makes me
think city range 181 kilometers to charge in 78 minutes that's pretty nice whoo whoo she goes
dang dang dang yeah she goes um zoom stunts performed by professionals good lord
okay i'm doing the audio hi
anywho yeah that looks super cool i gotta confess i um i test drove an electric bike a while back and
it just didn't sing to me so i ended up dumping a bunch of money into my sv650s that's an old 2003 but
i i'm really looking forward to having it back on the road as for my favorite gear honestly i just have
like kind of pedestrian stuff i don't really uh
i just i just like riding my bike a lot of the same stuff too yeah i i haven't i haven't i don't
replace things unless i absolutely have to like i buy a new helmet every you know five or six years
like you're supposed to yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna paint my new one to match my bike yeah i don't know
all the same stuff right i'm assuming it's something from someone yeah has some armor in it
it it's i got the one that fits you know
nice i don't know man i'm just i'm not much of a
it's funny because i'll say stuff like i'm you know i'm not that much into the aesthetics of things
i just i'm i don't care about the brand i'm just buying functionality like i say stuff like that and
then i am spending i kid you not like thousands of dollars painting my bike but that's not about
it's not about the end result like if i was buying a bike on craigslist i would just get whatever one
i don't care what color it is yeah it's more about the project of doing it um so i don't i don't know
how to address this i i have some wired headphones that i that i installed into my helmet nice and then
i run them like down to a to a thing so that so they don't go in my ear so i can hear everything
around me but i got like speakers like they're they're like the the the drivers out of a pair
of headphones and they just kind of like sit in the little ear things inside my helmet
like you're probably expecting me to talk about like my sick you know heads up display helmet or
whatever no man i just wear whatever fits
sorry i'm i'm so oh man yeah i'm basic can you get like a i'm basic hud
probably yeah i think there's some pretty cool helmets but like man you gotta replace
that like every few years buy a visor that has it you have to buy the whole helmet i don't know maybe
but like helmets are already expensive like yeah mine's good it's good like and to be clear i'm not
buying low quality stuff like i have a showy helmet which is not a word to describe it it's a brand yeah
yeah um man i don't know apparently none of the hud helmets are good yet like that's the thing right
is i i tend to i tend to wait for other people to buy garbage and then i'll buy like a good one when
it doesn't suck yeah fair enough all right i think that's it do we have any machinists on staff we
definitely have some part-time uh machinists i think ours is total four axis dan would you know
uh machinists or our machine what do you mean yeah our our tormach how many axes does it oh yeah
we have an a axis so it's four axis so you said eight and then you said four a axis yeah that's
the role one right yes that would be the fourth axis yeah okay okay okay uh so that's what we have
and we definitely have some folks that are more than capable of using it like sebastian and tynan
i got to learn how to do conversational on it it was terrifying but they are not full-time
machinists you will see some really cool um you will see some really cool discussion from them
about how it works though in an upcoming video where we made a giant version of the screwdriver
in-house that's kind of cool actually yeah it feels like something you'd see at like science world
it'll be for a stream so i have to build a computer with it apparently i i have only gotten
to see a picture of it so far i'm pretty excited it looks hilarious like it's thicker around than this
nice for the handle i'll get it done yeah yeah like it's like the guy that she tells you not to
worry about version of the screwdriver not a bad screwdriver yeah all right uh someone asks if there
will be super checks after party honestly i played super checks at lounge night with someone the other
night i can't i gotta go do medicine for the birds oh i mean that's fine i was gonna say um losing
it a little bit no dang no it was boring oh it's not actually like fun to play against people right
now um and you're still fun good but hey last time was pretty close you definitely beat me but it was
pretty close yeah but like i'm kind of tired of winning every time you should have not done the tape
review yeah maybe not but i want i wanted to be good you were good i wanted to get good though hey
we never talked about the rabbit r1 we kind of missed that we kind of missed uh yeah it kind of
sucks and we should have had a launch video on it uh i don't think we had it yet oh yeah we got it
though i did a short circuit well it kind of sucks no no we don't have to do the whole topic but
i will say watch the short circuit video because no matter how bad you think the r1 is
um it managed to be worse in the short circuit video boy i i i love teenage engineering stuff i
don't think i'll ever buy anything they ever make because it's all way too expensive but i really like
their design work seems to be of dubious utility yeah generally speaking i don't really understand
what that company does or why it exists some other stuff just looks really cool though i wish more
things looked like yeah but i don't buy stuff for looking cool exactly i don't get it i'll never
buy any of it but it looks sweet um yeah people have this like weird relationship with teenage
engineering that i that is true i don't have that i don't understand like they just they're like fans
of them they'll just buy stuff just because they yeah i'm not gonna work on the design but like
i kid you not it has a giant touch screen covering half of the front of the unit and you can't interact
with it you have to use the wheel this just looks so cool sure but so what i'm never gonna buy it
yeah not only would i never use it but i would have no like i can't i literally even if i was in this
interest industry i don't think i would buy this yeah but it's a it's a it's like an instrument how
else will you dial the telephone awesome it looks so cool it makes some neat instruments but i'll never
buy it anyways um so yeah i think i think the design looks cool and stuff and i i don't hate
the idea of making dedicated devices for things that you would normally use your phone for yeah
because i don't hate the idea of getting off your phone more you should watch the video anyway
because it's going to be really funny i probably will thanks for tuning in we'll see you again next
week same bad time same bad channel bye