What is up everybody and welcome to the WAN show! Honestly, it's not really that big of a story, but it is absolutely hilarious.
Elon Musk told his...
told his sponsors to go f*** themselves.
That's one way to get him back.
Yeah, I mean...
You gotta play hard to get.
Yeah, yeah, I tried that with my ex.
Note that I called her ex. No, actually, I never tried that.
Anyway, it was a great title, so what are you gonna do?
In other news,
Dbrand!
There's a Dbrand and Casetify update.
Oh, yeah, right. I remember how I was gonna segue between them.
I was gonna be like, speaking of our sponsors and you're gonna go f*** yourself.
Dbrand, anyway.
We're gonna give you guys the update on what's going on with Casetify.
Don't worry, we still love Dbrand.
What else we got going on here?
Uh...
I'm not prepared at all.
You had so much time.
I honestly did.
I had an incredible amount of time.
I'm so late today.
You didn't even look at the doc.
And you didn't even take a topic that I wanted to shout out.
It's remarkable.
I'll just take a drink of water.
Um...
There was a tech conference that had fake female speakers.
Oh, no.
Yeah, that was almost the title of the video today, but Luke was afraid that people would
just see the title and we would get cancelled again.
Yeah, so...
I thought it was a great title.
It was like, fake women are a problem in tech.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it's...
But people would have clicked it.
They sure would have.
They would have clicked it.
But no, no, it's that they were actually fake.
Fabricated.
Yeah.
Made up.
They were lied about.
So we're going to talk about that because it's terrible.
It's actually really lame.
Like, yeah.
So we'll...
Yeah, we'll...
Yeah.
But we won't talk about that with that as the title.
Okay?
Yes.
Yeah.
Um...
Okay, what?
What is this?
Viewer sent metal screwdriver and mining backpack?
Oh!
That one!
That must be why Tynan's here.
Oh!
All right, let's roll that intro.
Oh, that's sick.
Oh!
I bet that sponsors never watch this part.
So go f*** yourself, MSI.
Go...
No, just kidding.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
Who are all the sponsors?
MSI, Backblaze, and...
Oh, really?
Manscaped.
Hey, all right.
Cool.
That's great.
I don't hear the bleep on my head.
So for just a fraction of a moment, I'm just...
Yeah, that's great.
All right, why don't we jump into...
Not really that big of a topic, but let's get it out of the way.
Earlier this week, following major advertisers leaving the ex-formerly Twitter platform due
to Musk endorsing a tweet that, honestly, I am not even going to repeat.
Musk did a video interview with the New York Times where he was briefly contrite, calling
it perhaps one of his worst posts, then declared, don't advertise.
If someone's going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money,
go f**k yourself.
The, um, f**k was repeated several times.
So are they in a relationship now?
I'm sorry.
Including, at one point, Hey Bob, an apparent reference to Disney's Bob Iger, quote, what
this advertising boycott is going to do is, it is going to kill the company and the whole
world will know that those advertisers killed the company.
CEO, Linda Iaccarino, uh, was apparently sitting stone-faced in the front row for the interview.
Wow.
Let me tell you, as someone who has gone through some stuff, you know, um, after bringing someone
on to help me in a leadership role quite recently, I don't think this is how you do it.
I don't think you're giving Ms. Iaccarino, um, a lot of options, a lot of ammo.
Well, I was going to say, I don't think you're exactly tossing her a layup, but it's more like,
I don't think you're even giving her a ball.
You like kicked it out of the stadium.
Go get it.
And then while she was gone, you burned it to the ground.
And no, I don't think that the majority of people are going to blame Disney for the downfall
of Twitter.
I mean, even the people who love Twitter love that it is a flaming pile of absolute garbage.
It is, it is a f***ing dumpster fire and it can go f*** itself, I think is sort of the
mentality.
I think that while there are absolutely things that are valuable about Twitter, like I haven't
found a replacement, for example, for how to, no, I wasn't even going to say that.
We've talked about that in the past, but I haven't found a replacement for staying up
to date on my like juicy creator scandals.
And for me, that's not just a guilty pleasure.
There's definitely a little bit of it, but it's also just being in tune with what the
heck is going on in my industry.
Like I should, I should probably have some idea.
You know, like there's gotta be an option, like, like live stream fails.
I don't know.
You can, you can like go to Dick Cerdo or something like that.
Like they, well, yeah, well, that's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
You're not going to go to live stream fails.
That's not going to have everything there.
Yeah.
I don't do that.
That's fair enough.
Yeah, exactly.
So, I mean, come on guys, let, let, let me know.
Like, is there, is there a viable alternative?
Because it's tailored enough for me at this point that it knows that I'm probably going
to click on, you know, someone who is under fire for selling $8 cookies or whatever else.
Which to be clear, I think some people kind of misinterpreted what I said about that.
I, I am not taking a stance on that.
I have not done any research into the whole like Pokimane cookies thing, which I think
is mostly blown over at this point.
But I, I, it seemed like, it seemed like some people thought that I was like taking a side
in this.
I've never tried the cookies.
I've never tried the cookies that they are allegedly very similar to.
I, I, they're cookies.
I have a lot of questions about buying cookies online in general.
So, yeah, that's sort of, why are you shopping for cookies on the internet?
I didn't, I didn't even make it all the way to.
The internet is for digital cookies only.
Okay.
Oh my goodness.
No physical cookies.
All right.
Thanks.
It's been a great show.
Oh man.
Um, anyway, the point is like, I, I, I wouldn't know about stuff like that.
And over the course of my career, I have, how do I put it?
I have made at least one questionable choice when it came to deciding on people to collab
with.
And if I had at least one, that's all I'm saying, because otherwise I might end up identifying
someone.
I don't want to look, I've told you this a hundred times.
My life is a drama free zone.
I sometimes violate my policy, but it is my goal.
It is an aspirational statement.
Okay.
And the point is, if I had stayed up to date on some of this stuff, I may have made different
decisions at least once.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a, yeah, I'm not going to go into that further.
Yeah.
It's great because no one in the chat seems to agree about who I'm talking about, which
is telling in and of itself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Oh, okay.
No, no, no.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I completely miss, misread someone's, uh, I misread someone's thing there.
So, okay.
You know what though?
Maybe there's room for another interpretation here.
Do you think that there is a group of people that would blame advertisers for the downfall
of Twitter because they don't, because they don't realize that Twitter was never profitable
before and that making it worse and getting in a bunch of legal trouble is probably not
going to help it survive.
I guarantee you at least some people would.
Uh, is it just as simple as, as that Elon said it or would they have come up with that
on their own?
Uh, both.
I think to be honest, I think there's more because Elon said it, but I think, I think some
people, because people were already on this train.
This is not a new train.
Now, hold on a second then.
Tell me this then.
Yeah.
If, if dbrand, okay, or MSI for that matter, both of whom I have told to go f**k themselves
tonight, if, if either of them were to stop advertising with us.
I feel like, I feel like doing that to dbrand makes them want to advertise a few more, but.
MSI I'm not sure about, actually.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's, there's definitely people at MSI that I have definitely told to go f**k themselves.
Just, you know, lighthearted banter.
Right, yeah.
But not everyone.
I don't have a personal relationship with everyone there.
Uh-huh.
Um, so, good luck me.
We'll see, yeah.
But, okay, let's, let's say I didn't directly attack them.
If I, if I said something, okay, okay, okay, here's a controversial issue.
Let's take, let's take the issue of, um, Taiwan versus, um, what is it, ROC?
Or, um.
That's Taiwan.
Yeah, yeah, I, I forget, I forget what the, yeah, whatever, the two.
I think ROC is Taiwan and POC is China?
I'm sorry, I, I don't remember.
But the, the point is that there's, there's some debate over the name of that island.
So why don't we just, why don't we leave it there?
Sure.
And, and I could see, for example, um, a certain brand kind of going, okay, yeah, that was a
red, that was a red line.
Uh, you know, Linus took a stance.
He called it Taiwan.
Uh, he doesn't even know the other name for it.
So, whatever, right?
The, the point is, you know, someone could, someone could hear that and go, okay, yeah,
red line.
If all of a sudden, you know, LTT doesn't survive anymore, whose fault is it?
I, I think.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think, I think a lot of it depends on viewpoint.
Because I think it's going to depend on what you think of the initial statement.
I guess so.
But like, from a, from a, from just a, I don't know, just like, almost like a free will standpoint,
advertisers are not obligated to advertise on a particular platform.
I also feel like, at least for me, I'm sure there's people.
I don't follow that logic.
I'm sure there's people, oh, yeah, no, I, completely, that's really stupid, obviously.
Yeah, agreed.
Um, but I, I, I also, I'm sure some people care.
I've never understood the, like, we're going to pull advertising on like even this type of
content because advertising on it means we endorse it, whatever.
Like when you're taking the shotgun approach and just advertising on everything, like who
cares?
I've never seen a brand, um, have like a automated pre-roll ad on something that I didn't like
or agree with and be like, I must cancel all affiliation with this brand.
Like, I just, I, I'm assuming they're taking a shotgun approach and I just don't care.
You also understand how online advertising works to a degree.
Okay.
I don't think that, you know, your, your, your, your great aunt Mabel necessarily understands
that.
This is a hypothetical person.
Just don't worry about it.
I hope I have a great aunt Mabel.
And in the, and in the past, traditionally that was the case.
Advertisers would select television programs that were somewhat in alignment with at the
very least the demographics they were trying to reach because it was all so much more manual
back then.
And they would, they would tailor the messaging to who they thought they were talking to.
And yeah, obviously the way that that works is very different now.
And I think that, you know, with the rise of the internet, um, people can be into a lot
of stuff that wasn't necessarily on cable TV, you know, in the eighties in North America,
for example.
Um, and so these were decisions that brands were never faced with before is, are we, you
know, are we willing to, to take the, the small hits against us from the people who still
think that we have anything to do with the choice of, you know, where our stuff, and
you know what, actually that's not even true because you do still control it to a degree.
Like if you're, let's say on a, a pornographic website and you saw an advertiser there.
Okay.
Let's say you saw, let's say you saw a crest white strips, you know, you know, uh, advertising
like, do you, do you like white teeth?
Are you into white teeth?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Is that your thing?
Just, just slow, just slow, slow.
Give the gift of pressed white strips, right?
Like, so tell me, tell me you wouldn't, do you hear this, Tynan?
Do you hear this?
Tell me you wouldn't have an association there.
Maybe you also like mouthwash.
Oh, wow.
Oh, man.
That would actually be, that would be hilarious.
I, I, I, man, especially the second example there.
I just would think would be so funny.
I would probably buy their product.
I, honestly, it might drive sales.
That would, guerrilla marketing?
They should try this.
Someone should try this.
Oh my God.
I would respect them so much.
Okay.
But now, let's go, let's go one more degree of separation, right?
We gotta get to talk.
No, we won already.
How long has the show been running for?
What?
I don't know.
Not even that long.
Remember he was like, I'm gonna try to not respond to the.
Oh yeah, we got him.
We got him.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not what I meant at all.
No, like, uh, like.
Goalpost moving?
Yeah.
Yeah, whatever.
Whatever.
Exactly, whatever.
Whatever.
Get rekt.
Um, scrub.
Uh, anyway, the point is, let's go one degree of separation further, though.
Okay.
And let's, let's hear about, or let's, let's put ourselves in the mind of the person who
reads about this scandalous behavior from, I don't even know who markets, Procter & Gamble
or something, probably.
I, I don't even know.
Maybe it's 3M.
It's probably, it's probably thermal paste in there anyway.
Um, I'm just kidding.
Sorry, sorry.
My great grandmother, um, brushed her teeth with baking soda her whole life, which I didn't
realize was an option, even though, like, the best toothpastes are the ones that are
like with baking soda.
And I was like, oh, so I could just get a box of, you could, really?
Anyway, she never had a cavity in her life.
And I'm just like, that's cool.
The year is now insert year.
I think I'll just use like a baking soda toothpaste.
It's minty.
It makes my mouth taste nice.
It takes some mint flavor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like, um, but that's pretty cool.
I don't remember how I got onto this subject.
The point is that we're a degree of separation removed and someone reads about this, this scandalous
thing.
Okay.
So my biggest, my biggest thing here is.
And they go, how could they support that?
How could they support that industry?
My biggest thing here is I, it's, it's not a, the website itself, the idea of the website
itself, because you were describing one where the idea of the website is potentially contentious.
The idea of Twitter is not really contentious.
It's text and community interaction.
Yes and no.
But it's, it's, it's actions and comments of the CEO.
By that logic, this is a video site and this is also a video site.
But it's a video site for a very specific content, which is contentious.
Sure.
But I think what's contentious.
But Twitter isn't for that content.
But I think what's contentious about it is supporting that industry.
If you want to really boil it down.
And so.
But this is specifically comments from the CEO.
I know.
So it comes down to not wanting to support.
But plenty of people use this site that openly, viciously hate that person.
But it's the, but it's the risk.
It's the risk of having your brand message next to something that is highly controversial
and or offensive.
If that's true, they should have been off Twitter years ago.
Which is, I think, the, the point that I was digging for in all of this.
That is the most valid take.
The fact that they are turning this into an opportunity to, to posture or virtue signal
or whatever else it is, is, it just comes across disingenuous to me.
It's like, if you, if you don't support, you know, having your advertising next to content
you find offensive, then honestly speaking, you might as well remove it from the internet.
Yeah.
You shouldn't be advertising on Reddit, that's for sure.
No.
Not YouTube.
I don't know if Reddit allows advertisers to select specific subreddits or specific genres.
Probably, probably as an advertiser, you can say, look, I don't want any NSFW subreddits
or something like that.
That's probably your only two flags, though.
I'd be surprised.
I'm sure Reddit likes, wants to offer more tailored advertising.
Like, if I'm, if I'm in the LTT subreddit, it's always full of like tech ads or gaming ads
and stuff like that.
Like, I don't get anything for shoes.
I'm going to have to sign.
Mind you, that could be just because they know I never buy shoes.
Why would I?
It's, it does, it does say target your audience, reach customers where they're the most passionate
and engaged.
So you can probably, yeah, pick like a style of subreddit or something like that.
Question.
What's up?
Is it time to start an X days until Twitter dies pool?
And yes, I did that on purpose.
You know what?
It didn't even faze me because I didn't even think about it as X.
Like, it's just, it's such a weird.
Is it time to, like, are we within the sort of 180 day, like it's got to be, it's got
to be.
I don't think so.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you think he'll put more money in?
Because I don't think a third party, I don't, I don't think an outside investor is going to
after what happened to the last ones.
They'd have to be idiots.
I mean, the last ones, I don't, no offense, man.
See, how am I going to maintain my drama free zone when I say things like, no offense, but
if you invested billions of dollars in Twitter, you're a fucking idiot.
I'm sorry.
If your goal was getting a financial return out of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's true.
If your goal was something else, if your goal was, you know, cozying up to Musk or,
or the, or the fellow investor, I don't, I don't know.
I don't know what your goal was.
If your goal was something else and that helps you sleep at night or whatever, then you know
what?
You've made a good decision.
But if your goal was the primary goal of investing.
Which is to make money.
I'm, I'm so sorry.
That's an oof.
Yeah.
Um.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I, I, like.
Oh no, I, I offended dozens of billionaires.
I, I think I'll be okay without them.
You know, I go off of the DMs page on Twitter sometimes and just go like, what's happening
out there?
Not that often, but I'll poke around and it's insane.
Yeah.
I, I, like my comment of like, they should have left a long time ago.
I don't feel like the, whatever the home button page is, I don't know what it's called for
you or something.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Um, whatever page that is has been just complete chaos and debauchery forever.
And it still is like, that's just, I don't know.
Like.
Captain slip says, uh, I don't think they're dying anytime soon.
Every social network insert I see in the news about anything is always an embedded tweet.
Never mastered on never threads.
It's still happening on Twitter first and foremost.
And you know what?
I don't deny that.
It is.
Their momentum.
The problem is the money.
They're not a public company anymore.
They have to be funded somehow.
They can't just take money from the world.
Um, and like he was saying, unless, because it's not a public company to gain money, he
either needs to inject it himself.
Uh, which as far as I know, the only thing he has been willing to put on the line is shares.
No dollar dollars.
Um, no, I think he, I think he, he's going to have to get more.
He sold shares for cash to make the purchase.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If I recall correctly, I thought he put the shares up as like collateral or something.
You know what?
Uh, okay.
I'm not going to lie.
I don't remember when it passed, past mortgages and like basic buy stock, it go up, make money,
it go down, lose money.
It's not my world.
It's, it's, it's, it's one of those things where I, I would probably need more than the
fingers on both of my hands to count the number of times I've had to look up exactly how shorting
a stock works, stock works.
Like fundamentally, I, I, I like, I like kind of understand it.
You, you're, you're committing to buy later, but at a lower price.
So if it goes down, then you make money like I, okay.
But then the number of times that I've like landed on Wikipedia, read through it, gone.
Okay.
This is exactly the mechanism.
And then promptly forgotten about it.
And then it's come up in the news again.
I'm like, man, this is so frustrating.
I knew how this worked.
I get, okay.
Okay.
How does it work?
Yeah.
Like, just, I'm sorry.
Uh, TPR and L says the for you tab is totally based on who you follow.
I don't believe that.
Uh, just remove the rotten apples in who you follow.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's like a bunch of tech people.
There's people I follow for work.
There used to be people that I followed that would just straight up like,
just porn.
And it would show up in my feed and I'd be like, what are you doing?
Did like, do you know that this like shows to everyone that you've done this?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not going to go, I'm not going to DM a grown man and be like BT dubs.
Hey, why are you horny on me?
Everyone sees what you're into.
And I really didn't follow you for that.
And I would prefer if you didn't.
I don't know.
It's a funny thing because the way that I was raised was honestly pretty open about
that.
Like when I was, when I was, you're effectively posting it to everyone else.
No, no, hold on.
There's a different.
No, when I was young.
Okay.
I, I, I have family members, friends, and even my own house that would have, okay, more on the artful side, but definitely have large, very nude prints, you know, in their houses.
Um, you know, I, I, I, I, I visited like family, friends who definitely just had pinups, literally
pinned up.
Like, you know, like, you know, in their bathroom or in their house or whatever, you know, calendars, uh, openly on display.
Yep.
My, um, one of my parental units, I'm just not going to name them just to make it easier.
Um, so that I don't have to answer questions about this later.
Cause I can just say, Oh no, I was referring to the other one.
Um, one of my, one of my parental units had a deck of playboy playing cards, uh, or either
playboy or penthouse.
Like, like, I don't think playboy because it was not that classy.
So it must've been like penthouse or hustler or something, but like I had access to those
at, you know, eight or nine.
And yet I'm actually hyper conservative about that sort of thing.
Like I, I, I, I, I, I, I see people just who are like, and, and so like what I'm trying
to explain is I grew up with it just being normal to just like have pornography in your
house.
And, but to me, the idea of broadcasting that on Twitter, these people that follow you for
tech content or whatever.
I mean, at the, at the very least I would, I, I would personally, if I felt, if I felt
compelled to share it and you know what, I'm, I'm not judging the kinds of shared experiences
that people want to have.
I actually am not sure, but I just maybe an alt account and you can link to it and say
like, this is the not safe for work alt, whatever.
That's fine, but put it behind, you know, make me take another step or indicate really,
really, really early on that this is like something that you do on there or something.
I don't know.
Hi, AJ.
Bye, AJ.
And you're looking for it.
You need, hold on, Luke, this is breaking news.
Yes.
Clickbait works.
That's right.
Experts agree.
All you have to do is put this in your live stream title.
Also, deep random language.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
This is a Christian Minecraft server.
Mean.
They can't, they, they said a mean word to us.
That's not okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We only implied a mean word.
Anywho.
Oh boy.
Actually, I haven't even looked at what viewership is like for the stream overall.
Did this, did this work on everybody?
Whoa.
Okay.
It's pretty good.
Usually it's not that much this early in the show.
Man, we should say that every week.
Yeah.
Cool.
We should just find a sponsor and just be like, yeah.
I'll f*** you and f*** you.
Well, I mean, it won't last long, but boy, will it ever be a wild ride.
Wancho will do slightly better for a few weeks.
Hey, maybe they'll make it up in like screwdrivers.
Hey, yeah.
Should be fine.
Or hoodies.
Hoodies.
Jacob S. got the hoodie.
Hey, nice.
Oh yeah.
I'm going to get the laptop bag later.
Hey, speaking of creator warehouse stuff, why don't we jump into our next topic, which
is apparently that Tynan is going to be joining us.
Do you have like a microphone or like, how does this even work?
He's just been, he's been, he's been skulking.
I love that word and I love using it.
He's been skulking over there and he's got a box.
He does.
He's been box skulking, which sounds way dirtier than it is.
It really does.
Especially with the previous topic.
He's a box skulker.
So what is this?
I don't know, but it's apparently an emergency.
Oh.
Got the, got that EMS, got that EMS tape right on there.
Yeah.
That's a courier, right?
I don't know.
Let me see.
It sounds.
Don't shake it too much.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Whatever's in there is marching.
He just, he just, he just said, don't shake it.
Well, yeah.
He didn't define too much.
This doesn't seem like too much to me.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, hold on.
Usually I would interpret that as like, don't shake it any more than absolutely required.
Coward.
Okay.
My line.
Would you like to, would you like to do the care and handling instructions?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's not like you're going to pay attention to them, so.
Yeah.
Well, one of these things I think I figured out what it's for.
You should just ceremoniously drop, oh.
You should just ceremoniously drop it.
Uh, okay.
Uh, I don't know where I'm supposed to.
Oh my gosh.
That looks really long.
I don't think you can read that.
You definitely don't have to read all of that.
You know, there was like, it's in like a thing, which opens backwards, and then they
didn't use the inside of it to type.
Okay.
So basically it looks like my daughter's made it.
This is advanced difficulty.
Um, brass.
Brass will naturally develop a patina over time, giving it a dull finish.
Okay.
The very tip of the brass screwdriver is brass-plated steel.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
The very tip of what now?
Uh, the brass-plated screwdriver.
Now might be a good time to look at the pieces on the inside of the boxes.
Okay.
I feel like, whoa, whoa.
Hello, buddy.
Hold on, hold on, hold on a second.
Okay.
What's happening?
We're going to do the, oh, wow.
That's an interesting framing for the Linus cam.
No, no, it's perfect.
It might actually be very convenient for this.
Yeah, it's perfect, Dan.
Oh, uh, well, it was perfect, and then I ruined it.
No, no, you're good.
You're good.
Linus, it's behind the banner.
Lift it up.
I'm trying.
Is this your first time doing this?
I lifted it up, and then this thing came down.
You have two hands.
Use them.
Oh, my God.
Jeez.
All right, I'm using one of them.
Yeah, you like that?
I show up, and all chaos unfolds.
Glorious.
It's always like this.
Oh, no.
I think the chaos is exponentially proportional to the number of people here.
Yeah.
That sounds about right.
What can I say?
I just like when people watch.
I get excited.
Oh, man.
Okay.
I think what I'm looking at are some prototypes.
These look very kind of not handcrafted, obviously.
These are machined, but it looks like various sort of components.
Yeah.
Yeah, like attempt almost at something.
Like this one has two of the flat sides kind of applied to it.
This looks like, oh, I think I see what's happening here.
This looks like a selector ring.
Wait.
Hold on a second.
Well, this is obviously one of our ratchet mechanisms and shafts.
I would recognize it anywhere.
And there's a whole bunch of other little...
You'd recognize your own shaft.
Like this was lathed, and this is really good.
It's flared out at the tip, so that's safe.
The ratchet that was ours may have came from us putting it in the box accidentally.
Oh, we put it in there.
Oh, okay.
That particular one at least.
Okay.
Okay.
So I think we're about to see something here.
For display purposes, the metal can be polished back to a shiny finish.
The recommended polishing compound is something, something.
Caution, please avoid excessive polish.
Oh, whatever.
Yeah.
None of that's super important.
I'm afraid I can't come out to that.
The ratchet mechanism is based on a readily available screwdriver.
Performance is not on par with the LTT version.
There's a dead spot in the mechanism for manufacturing mistake.
There's no cause for concern if the certain mechanism feels tight and uneven,
because it's not ours.
Okay.
So there are two drivers in there.
There's two drivers.
You might want to take it out entirely.
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Just in time for the Christmas season, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
So handle with utmost care.
Silver and gold.
I don't think I should even touch them because of how oily my hands are.
No, no, you're good.
That's fine.
That's, okay, good, I guess.
Good job.
Wow.
Okay.
So now, hold on a second.
Those look insane.
What am I looking at?
Okay.
That.
Okay.
Man.
Those look actually insane.
So the two drivers are quite different.
Oh.
Okay.
No, no, I can tell.
Wait.
Recognize that?
Yeah, this one's our ratchet.
Mostly, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Listen to this.
Extras.
In the package is a grab bag full of a selection of scrap slash prototype parts.
Probably about 500 bucks worth of shiny but equally useless parts.
Wow.
Small insight into the months of manufacturing.
Feel free to keep the grab bag.
So we are sending back the drivers.
This one is actually functional.
Whoa.
That is so cool.
Okay, here.
Do you want to check this out?
I got to show them the next one.
So this one.
Whoa.
Whoa.
This one weighs.
Oh, yeah.
No, it had.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it also goes the wrong way.
Yeah.
This one is not as functional as the other one.
But this is polished brass gets that gold looking.
Yeah, it does.
That looks flipping incredible.
And the tip is plated and you can kind of see how it looks different than the rest of the piece.
It's crazy.
Wow.
And this one was the one that was based off of a different mechanism.
You know what?
They did a pretty good job of, I mean, at least as close as I think you can get with not using a plastic molded part, like having to do with flat surfaces, but pretty close to the hand feel of our draw.
Oh, oh, Tynan has something else for us.
I do.
Okay.
Does the person who made these know that they didn't need to do that?
I mean, that's never the point when you're making something like that.
That's fair.
But that is pretty true.
It is.
This is what we have coming.
Have you seen this yet, Luke?
Yes, actually.
Oh, I've snuck a peek.
That's way less fun.
Tynan, how close is this one to what we are planning to launch?
Surface finishes may be a bit different, but other than that, it should be pretty close to being ready.
So, I was playing it up a little bit.
I know that polished brass looks a lot like gold because we are going with polished brass because I thought it looked so amazing for the accents on our aluminum driver.
Now, obviously, it's not going to look as bling-tastic as this, so he definitely did still have to make his own if he wanted something that looked like that.
But for the rest of you, the functionality of this is up to LTT standard.
So, it's really got that nice, satisfying pop mechanism.
The team worked extraordinarily hard.
At least, that's what they tell me.
I don't know.
I can never tell.
No, just kidding.
They worked hard.
Retuning the selector ring.
And I believe you guys had to make some changes to the ratchet under it.
Is that correct?
I don't remember.
No.
Okay.
But they had to play around a lot with the selector ring because the way that the sort of one-time fit works on the plastic one did not work very well for metal.
And so, the earlier ones, it was, I think, one millimeter wider.
And it was very noticeable.
I was like, oh, this feels wrong.
Um, please fix it.
Please fix.
And they were like, oh, okay.
We knew you were going to say that, but okay.
Our meetings often go quite like that.
So, the person who made the other drivers got around the same problem in a different way.
Oh, that's so cool.
If you look at the stainless steel driver.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Here.
I'm going to your cam, Luke.
If you spin it, like, if you select it, you can see that the top piece doesn't move.
Oh, yeah.
No, I felt that.
I felt that already.
What they did was they threaded it on to the zinc housing.
This is right here.
Oh.
So, they threaded it on to the zinc housing and then Loctited it and then have the actual
selector be a separate piece.
That's actually a really good idea.
So, show them where the seam is.
Yeah.
It's hard to see in the camera, but right on the edge of my fingernail, that's where the
seam is.
That is so cool.
So, they definitely did some development themselves to make these work.
I love it.
It's remarkable.
These are really cool.
It is.
I always think nothing could surprise me anymore about just the passion of our community, the
tech community in general.
And then I'll see Doom running on like a fridge, you know, or whatever, right?
Like, it didn't serve any purpose.
It served no purpose other than, well, that's cool s*** and I'm going to do it.
I don't know.
I just, man, I love that.
I don't think we're going to release anything this heavy.
Yeah.
I'm just going to know.
He likes his heavy one, his like stupid 3D printed steel one or whatever.
But it's fun.
It's a lot heavier though.
It's hard to use heavy.
It's unpleasant.
I actually find it like unbalances my body heavy.
Like, it's not good.
But the aluminum one with the brass accents, we found that that was a good compromise.
You know, looking at it under this light tine and I'm not 100% sold, is this pretty close
to the finish that I had said I preferred?
I can't remember.
I think the aluminum finish is going to change still.
The aluminum finish is still going to.
Okay.
I believe.
But we're pretty settled on the shiny brass, I think, right?
It's going to get like this really nice patina over time.
Oh.
And it's going to be so much better of a fidget toy too.
Just because.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's been for a long time.
Is the right word inertia or momentum in this case?
Both.
Both.
Because they're basically the same thing functionally, right?
More or less.
Okay.
Then I'm not going to stress about it.
I want to hear the closing sound.
It makes nice and close to the mic.
No, they have more inertia, which gives them more momentum.
Pretty much, yeah.
Okay, so I do understand it.
Excellent.
Good job, Linus.
They're close enough.
Okay.
Sorry.
What were you going to say, Dan?
Oh, I want to hear it close next to the mic a little bit better because it's just a beautiful sound.
Oh.
Yeah.
Love it.
Anyway.
Yeah.
That is so cool.
Thanks for sending these over to us just to check out.
And we will get them back to you in, oh, I just, oh, I love that it's a set.
Oh, they look so good together.
Okay.
So, Tynan, I guess what that means is that for all the product photography for this, we have to do an inverse version just so that we can, like, have that look.
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
I mean, it's doable.
It would be so heavy.
It's so much fun seeing the look on his face in person compared to just seeing him talk in chat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Had to be here every now and then.
Yeah.
All right.
Thank you so much for showing us this.
Oh, oh, this isn't the only thing.
No.
There's another one.
What about second box?
It's the mining backpack.
So, we actually had this as a topic, and I guess it's here.
That's what I think is happening, at least.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So, the entirety of Creator Warehouse was looking forward to getting this thing back to look at it.
Yeah.
So, I mean, should we give people the, should we give people kind of the background for this?
It first showed up in a post on Reddit where someone was talking about how.
Frasher 11.
Frasher 11?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there we go.
I was talking about how resilient the LTT backpack has been, and he demonstrated this by posting
his absolutely abused, like, wrecked looking bag that he had been using for one year.
And naturally, a lot of people's response to that was, I'm sorry, you're delighted that
this bag is at one year and still functioning, and it looks like that.
And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
I work as a miner, but no, a real one.
Like, underground.
And it has been through some shit.
And he said that his previous bags were destroyed in half the time.
So, he wasn't actually complaining about it.
And in fact, from my understanding, he intended to continue to use it.
Yeah.
But we saw an opportunity.
And I think it was actually Chewy, from the social and community team, who was like,
hey, how about this?
Can we get that from you?
Why don't we get Frasher a new bag that he can destroy in a year, or a year and a half,
or however long it takes him, because he's apparently a unit.
And why don't we get that one back, so we can get what is essentially, it's only one unit,
so it's not perfectly scientific or anything, but a long-term sort of projection of where
the wear points might be on our backpack if someone were to use it for 10 years or 15 years,
except Frasher did it for us in one.
So, this is my first time seeing it in person.
Yeah.
Luke, do you want to vent it?
Sure.
Do you want to open it?
No, no, you can stay there.
It's just big.
Here, hold on.
I'm going to switch to the Luke cam.
I actually really like how it looks so far.
Okay, hold on.
Show them the top of the box.
Show them the top of the box.
Wow.
Does anyone have, I have the Lux bag right now.
Does anyone have a regular LTT backpack just for color comparison?
Because it's like, it's like almost, it's patinaed.
It's brown.
Yeah.
That's a brown backpack.
Oh, perfect.
That's Tynan's.
Is this yours, Tynan?
Yeah.
Oh, really?
You took the only new carabiners that we have?
Oh, we have an update for you guys on that, right?
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
There's a...
Sorry.
Your name tag.
What happened to it?
Oh, no.
Oh, okay.
I'm also a product tester, even though I also developed them.
You should laser engrave it.
Yeah, the, there's an update on them.
I believe the first 50,000 units are going into production very, very shortly.
We've resolved the issue I talked about on the show previously, where basically there
was a disagreement over when we owed them more money, and I think we're moving forward,
and I think things are going to be good, and I'm really excited to get those all shipped
out to people.
Okay.
Sorry, Luke.
I had you holding that basically forever while I just dragged my butt.
Okay.
Yeah.
You can, um, you can see a difference.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Cool.
Here it comes.
Handle's in, like, 100% condition, and he was hanging it off of his, like, whatever that
vehicle was that he was using by the handle.
Hey, we accounted for that.
We have not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, but six, six rivets through
the top handle, because I knew people would do it.
Every backpack I've ever owned has failed here, or here, or here.
And this, like, it's fine.
It's actually completely fine.
That is kind of, I almost want to do this as, like, a colorway.
This, yeah, it's kind of cool.
Okay, his carabiner pole died.
Yeah, the zipper pole's gone.
Both of the two at the top have their, the, like, arms broken off.
Yeah, no, we did.
No, like, do a line.
Okay, I mean, do you want to, here, here, here, I'm going to switch to the Luke, Luke cam.
Uh, okay, they can't see you.
Oh, wow, the inside.
The zipper is struggling a wee bit.
The inside is dirty.
I mean, it's a YKK zipper, what do you want from me?
Oh, wow.
The inside has been used heavily.
There are some samples on the inside of, like, what they mine, just as a heads up.
Oh.
It is very dirty.
Remember how I said it's been through some shit?
Some shit's apparently been through it, too.
Oh, oh, what do you got?
What do you got?
I want to see.
Whatever was in this one fell out.
Oh, uh, maybe it was heavy.
I mean.
Hey, look, it's Ethereum.
Just kidding, just kidding.
It's real mining.
It's real mining.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's my understanding.
I don't actually really want to take it out of the bag, but you can see.
All right.
I mean, it is very dirty.
Yeah, that's fine.
I mean, that's the whole point of this segment is versus.
Was he actually carrying coal in the backpack?
I mean, it looks like it.
It looks like it.
Presumably.
If not, things covered in it.
Okay.
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah.
Um, am I allowed to, am I allowed to say where they came from?
I mean, I guess it doesn't really matter, right?
I don't know.
Um, Shoemaker Mines, West Virginia, uh, 265 to 330 million year old coal.
Dude, even, even the like laptop sleeve area.
Oh, I know what my kids are getting for Christmas.
Wait, that would actually be hilarious.
Forbidden brownie.
Oh my goodness.
Oh, this is.
If you eat one, it feeds you for the rest of your life.
This is so cool.
There's a lot of calories in there.
So are these, so we've got samples from various mines.
Nope.
This is from the same mine.
It's just other more different sample.
Probably so that, oh, I guess this is so multiple people on the team can have them as a keepsake.
I mean, that's, that kind of, that, that's where my logic brain goes.
Okay.
Check, check this.
Even, so there's the main compartment.
Proceeds to wipe his hands.
There's the main compartment that we saw.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even the like laptop compartment.
That is scuffed.
But still in really good shape.
Yeah.
Like it, like everything's still functional.
Everything's still together.
Okay.
I found one hole in the outside of it.
You found a hole.
Oh, I think it's time to go hole hunting.
What about the, uh, the side pockets?
Like, are they full of stuff too?
A hole, you say?
So the zippers are a little rough.
So not a partial?
There's like hole gunk in there.
You didn't find a partial?
It was, it was a partial.
Oh, a partial hole.
Because of a design choice that we made earlier on.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
I feel like, uh.
No, it's a good thing.
I feel like things are about to get spicy.
It's a good, it's a good design choice.
Not a bad one.
Oh.
Okay.
Cool.
Uh, now I'm stressed.
Where?
Give me a hint.
Okay.
The bottom?
This one?
Yeah.
Is that actually a hole?
Wait, you called that a hole?
Well, it's through the, it's through one layer.
It's through one layer.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
So I think he, I think he put the bag down on something hot.
Or sharp.
Or both.
Or both.
Okay.
Okay, here.
Lift up a little higher.
You're below the, yeah, there we go.
Right here.
Right there.
Okay.
There.
Remember when I pointed to all the places that my backpacks have ever failed?
I forgot to mention one.
One of the final places that my backpacks have failed is along the bottom.
Because I'm the kind of person who gets home at the end of the day, takes off my backpack,
grabs it by the handle, swings it along the floor, and chucks it to where it goes.
So my backpacks tend to get worn really hard at the bottom.
A lot of people have noted that our backpack is kind of on the big side, a little on the heavy
side when it's empty.
Yes.
And part of that was very intentional.
And one of the reasons for it is that the bottom panel, these entire two pieces right
here are actually double layered.
So in the event, here, can I have a, can I have a knife?
Anyone got a knife on them?
Do you want to damage it more than it is?
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's fine.
I don't think that should affect our analysis.
Are we still doing the research?
That should be fine.
I think I can cut it.
Are you contaminating a crime scene?
No, no, no, no, no.
There's no crime.
There's no crime.
Is he ever not?
There's no crime.
Is he ever not?
Okay, yeah, let's go for it.
Let's do it.
What's the line?
F*** it.
We'll do it live.
Line has stabbed me.
New title.
Okay.
So let's, uh...
Don't, yeah, go somewhere, like, far from that one.
Oh, don't go right on the seam.
What?
What are you...
I'm not on the seam.
I'm close to it.
Okay, it's not actually that easy to cut.
There we go.
So theoretically, if our manufacturer is following our instructions...
Oh, wait, is it not that one?
Uh-oh.
Is it this one?
Maybe it's just the one under the laptop compartment.
Oh, God.
This would be awkward.
Cyber truck bulletproof window, anyone?
What's the safety committee thought process on what's happening right now?
It's not going to cut Linus.
Where's my, uh...
Where's my second layer here?
Well, then, wait.
Well, why didn't the whole cause a problem?
Okay, we need to investigate this for sure.
Sounds good.
Is it...
Is it...
Is it under the foam?
Is it under the foam?
I think so.
Oh.
Can I see?
I think you'd have to...
Well, let's keep going.
I think you'd have to, like, really go and then take the foam out.
Because the foam is, like, stuck on something.
Tynan's having a good day.
Eh, it's fine.
Everything is fine.
I'm not sure if I agree.
I think there's definitely some stuff for us to figure out here.
Thanks, Tynan.
Good chat.
The backpack is in remarkably good shape.
That much is true.
But that doesn't mean that I am not a little put out right now.
I'm always a little put out, but...
Was it that other layer?
Mm-mm.
Uh-huh.
So, we need to get that information to the team...
Yep.
I am covered in cold eyes.
...as soon as humanly possible.
For sure.
Thank you very much, Tynan.
Yee.
And, uh...
Hmm.
Things to explore.
Have I ever told you guys that there's never a dull moment around here?
Yeah.
There is always something.
Anyway.
At least it was hard to stick the knife through it.
Oh.
Hold on one sec.
Stabbed through both legs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What I'm actually wondering is if it's double thick.
And if there might have been a bit of a miscommunication there.
Where'd that knife go?
Sorry.
I'm in actual just like...
Can we hold?
...working on stuff mode right now.
No, no.
I'm good.
Thank you.
Sorry.
I'm just going to put more holes in this, Tynan.
I hope that's okay.
I don't think it matters if it's not.
That sounded a lot easier.
It's going to be really hard to tell.
We will look into it.
You'll need a...
Yeah.
Yes, please.
I don't need to tell him what he needs.
I don't know why I even started that.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I just...
I see...
I see problems.
I need to learn about them.
And I need to fix them.
And it's as much a compulsion as it is actually a practical thing for the business.
One of the problems I have right now is I haven't explained about merch messages.
So, guys, if you want to interact with the show, the way to do it is through a merch message.
You can pick up one of our delightful backpacks.
One of our delightful...
Sorry.
Not this one.
Thanks, Tynan.
You don't have to duck that much.
You won't see it.
One of our delightful screwdrivers.
Hold on.
Here's the one we're actually promoting right now.
Ah, it was in my pocket.
There you go.
Got our new retro colorway, which is super awesome.
It looks so cool.
Or whatever else strikes your fancy.
And in the cart, you will see a little box titled Merch Messages whenever we're live.
So, instead of just throwing your money at the screen via Super Chat or Twitch Bits or whatever else,
you get to throw your money at the screen and get your order in the mail.
And as a bonus, it will go to producer Dan, who will either forward it to the relevant party internally,
reply to it himself, chuck it up at the bottom of the screen so you can do a little shout-out or, you know,
send a little message, or he will curate it for...
Tynan's starting investigating already.
Or he will curate it for me and Luke to address on the show.
So, to show you guys how it works, Dan is going to pitch us a couple of Merch Messages to talk about right now.
Yeah, sure.
I've got a couple here.
First one up.
I started a new job as a Dell and Lenovo warranty technician.
I love my new job so far, but I'm afraid that I will upset a customer eventually.
Do you have any advice for me?
I mean, I don't think there's...
I don't think there's any way to avoid that.
You're going to upset a customer eventually.
The customer is not always right.
Some of those will be predetermined as well.
Sometimes the customer is a f***ing idiot.
And sometimes they're just mad already before you even pick up the phone.
Yeah, sometimes it's nothing personal.
I mean, that honestly is probably the best piece of advice I think my aunt ever gave me,
is that everyone has baggage, is the way that she kind of put it.
And you know what?
Some people have more baggage than other people, and carrying it is really tiring for them.
And that's not your fault.
You know, you need to be empathetic.
You need to try your best to understand their position.
But beyond that, it's not your job to carry it.
People will absolutely dump on you, though.
But it's not your job to carry their baggage.
Yeah.
And I think that that's probably the best way for you to kind of think about that is,
hey, look, this is, I can't take this personally right now.
I got to recognize that in good faith, I did my best here.
And maybe I did screw up.
But if we are both trying to get along, you know, the most important thing is trying to
reach a resolution, and getting angry is not going to change anything about it.
Maybe that person doesn't understand that.
Or maybe they're not in a state of mind right now where they're able to think about it that
way.
But whatever the case is, I just got to recognize that this is not my baggage.
This is not my burden to carry.
And I got to just keep being me and keep being my best self.
That's what I would recommend.
Because it will happen.
It'll happen.
Hi, LTT crew from Oklahoma.
What's up?
I was wondering when the Noctua Edition screwdriver would be released, and will there possibly
be a stubby version?
Um, we've been asked about additional colorways for stubby.
I think that in the very long term, we'd love to just find a way to handle lots of different
colors or whatever.
You could buy a preloaded, you know, hex one, and it would be, you know, whatever the, like,
hex sort of industry standard color is.
Are there colors that correspond?
Hey, Tyna, I can't remember on the screwdrivers.
Is it that the colors correspond to the size or the bit type?
He's gone.
He's gone.
Well, great.
Perfect.
Um, cool.
Anyway, you know, I would love to have all kinds of, you know, different options or do
like fun little drops, you know, here's, here's 69 Lambo edition ones or whatever.
Right.
Um, but right now we have to focus our manufacturing capacity, which if you're regular viewers will
know is, uh, a lot of it here at, no, not him.
You're not the manufacturing capacity.
No, I have a, I have an answer.
Oh.
All right.
Uh, red Phillips screwdriver.
Okay.
So it's by bit type.
Blue Phillips screwdriver often used for electrical work.
Green torque screwdriver used for electronics and appliances.
Are you really going to go through this whole thing?
I was going to.
Yeah.
Sure.
I'm, I'm, you know what?
I'm actually here for it.
Yellow flathead screwdriver, black magnetic screwdriver, orange insulated screwdriver used
for electrical work to prevent electrical shock and silver precision screwdriver used
for small electronics and devices.
All right.
Well, we probably won't be following this key, but we'll, we'll do something.
Um, the point is right now we need to focus our manufacturing capacity on the, the few
skews that we are, that we're, we're, we're bringing out.
Um, but in the longer term, yeah, we'd love to do all kinds of things.
What I said last time people asked about different colorways on the stubby is, yeah, we'd love
to, but we need to see the stubby be a big success in the standard colors.
And then we'll consider bringing in additional colors because your additional colors are always
going to be some proportion of what you would sell in black.
Um, I, I have yet to see any evidence, whether it's t-shirts or sweatshirts or screwdrivers
or anything.
I've yet to see any evidence to support that some other color will sell more than black.
I want to throw something into the ring.
The swim trunks.
Yes.
Black still outsold?
Uh, you know what?
I would have to go back and look at, uh, I'd have to go back and look at the launch
and I don't remember when we launched it because we've sold through all of them.
So if I just look at a huge time period, it's just going to say however many we ordered
it was sold.
Um, I feel like that would be the best bet.
Yeah.
If anyone remembers when we launched the swim trunks, I can't look it up right now.
Um, post it in the chat and then I'll, I'll go find it.
I'll, I'll let you guys know.
All right, Dan, hit us.
Sure thing.
Um, love you guys.
Have you heard of sending, uh, HDMI signals through a box of, I guess, ethernet to get
high quality audio video over long distances?
No fiber optic wires needed.
HD base T.
Uh, yes, it's super cool.
We actually did a video showing that, um, the, the title was, uh, quite clickable.
So it might not be the most obvious thing for you guys to find, but I think I remember
what I was, what I think I remember what it was called, uh, weirdest graphics card or
something like that.
Digital signals are great.
But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but.
Just do stuff with it.
There it is.
Man.
Man, I'm good.
Here it is.
This GPU, super cool.
It has ethernet jacks on the back because that function is, functionality is built right
into it.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Super neat, right?
I think we still have the six by a hundred meter spool of cable that we use to do the
tempo because it's too valuable to throw away, but it's too impractical to use because
it's like this crazy, stiff, thick armored cable or something.
I don't know.
It's bizarre.
Oh, oh, oh.
When, when, uh, knock to a screwdriver, I think maybe sometime in the, uh, nice.
All right.
Is that the three?
No, hold on.
He's, he's looking.
I'm actually looking, but yeah, you can do another one.
You want four?
Sure.
Um, this is just, it's more merch stuff.
Let's see.
Uh, okay.
Well, I got one here for Luke.
Sure.
Uh, dear LLD.
First off.
Hi, Dan.
Hope you're having a great day.
Second off.
Linus go yourself.
Third.
Now that I've got your attention.
Of course I believed it.
Oh, Luke.
Uh, what's the biggest allowed to discuss bug on float plane?
Uh, I hope I believed it.
I've, I test my button.
That's fine.
If I see no evil, I can also neither hear nor speak it.
I don't know.
Uh, I, I don't feel like it's really been that bad.
Um, we've had a lot of issues with our transcoding system for a really long time, but we're kind
of out of those waters now.
Um, not only did we more or less fix the transcoding system that we have, but the new one, uh, which
is going to be awesome.
But the new one, that was a, that was a big issue earlier this year, but yeah, I think
we're mostly out of that now.
I think that was, that's probably the biggest problem we've had that was like long running.
I don't know.
Oh, speaking of float plane, we apparently have two float plane exclusive videos where
Tynan talks about the metal screwdriver in more detail and one where the creator warehouse
team looks over the mining backpack.
That one's coming out next Tuesday.
Oh, that's cool.
So the screwdriver one's already there.
And then the creator warehouse team looked at the backpack.
Uh, I'm glad they did that before I put a hole in it.
Yeah.
Mind you, it might merit a follow-up video if, uh, if depending on what we find, we'll have,
we'll have to see.
Tynan ran off with it like right away.
So yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
Tynan, Tynan's, he's, he's good.
He takes stuff serious.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
I mean, to be clear, when I, when I single out Tynan, that doesn't necessarily mean that
I am saying that the rest of the team is not good.
You know, I like hamburgers.
You hate hot dogs.
No, no, no.
I love them all.
I'll eat one hot dog and one hamburger.
I'll do it right now.
I'll eat them both at the same time.
I, I, I, I, I just, I just mean that doesn't surprise me at all that he immediately went
where he has more access to tools or whatever else.
All right.
Why don't we, what do you want to do now?
What are we, what are we supposed to be doing?
We were asking about the Noctuous screwdriver timeline.
Oh, right.
Yes.
I did look that up.
Uh, here's the last update that I have from Nick.
Uh, 24,000 people have signed up for a notification when it's in stock.
Um, historically the conversion is obviously not 100%, but that's good.
Um, boxes are expected to be complete in early December.
Then it's just pending shipping of boxes and screwdrivers.
Maybe I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Maybe the screwdrivers are done boxes for sure that we need to get that done.
Yeah.
So you will not be getting a Noctuous screwdriver for Christmas, which is unfortunate.
What are you doing?
Because they look so cool.
Oh.
No.
Ah.
Uh, these are my, these are my hex.
My metric.
My imperial hex.
Wait, you have a, this is my standard bit set.
I never thought about doing that.
Oh my gosh.
Torx.
I still, I still really like the custom screwdriver that you and I made that one night.
I love it.
We made one that looks like a toy.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's actually awesome.
Yeah.
It's every time I use it at home, I'm like, this is sweet.
This is dope.
There's no, you can never get like really high quality products in that type of a color scheme.
Like it actually looks like a kid's toy, but then it's a, yeah.
It's, it's great.
I love it.
We would love in the longer term to have a BYOS, you know, build your own screwdriver,
configure it thing.
I think that it's something we may be able to achieve at some point.
I haven't talked about this much, but we have fixed shaft screwdrivers coming.
There's been a ton of work.
Robert from the creator warehouse team has been heading that up and it's more challenging
than you would think because we are not just taking some screwdriver set from some factory
and silk screening our logo on it.
That's not good enough for us.
We are creating something really special.
Uh, we are, um, where we, we're going to be using a very similar ergonomic shape compared
like, uh, compared to our ratcheting driver, but obviously the shafts are going to be thinner
so that you can get into places that a multi-bit screwdriver simply can't.
Got me to fit.
They won't ratchet.
They're going to have, uh, an overgrip because we don't have to fit all the bits inside.
So there's enough room to do, um, a multi-mold process.
Uh, so we'll have like a harder, hard inner mold and then a softer outer mold, but not soft,
soft.
We want something that's like, you know, got a little bit of grip to it, feels nice in the
hand, but is, is not going to wear out.
Uh, we're going to have, um, these little kind of, um, butt plugs.
Well, they go on the butt of the screwdriver and they're a plug.
So they're end plugs and plug, let's call them end plugs.
They plug into the end.
Uh, so we'll have these end plugs that are going to be modular.
And the reason for that is not because you will even, not because you will want to, or
even be able to take them out, but because the idea is that we are going to have the final
assembly of the screwdrivers be somewhat modular.
Oh, I, I believe we are leaning towards, uh, forged, um, forged shafts.
Uh, there's, I'm trying to think if there's like anything else to really say about it, but
the cool thing about the way that we're developing this product is that we're going to only warehouse
shafts, handles, and end plugs.
So the idea is that if you wanted a longer shaft, or if you wanted, um, a number one Phillips
with a bigger handle or a smaller handle, we're going to have five different handle sizes.
Um, or if you wanted, um, customize a fixed screwdriver as well.
Exactly.
So you could kind of create your own ultimate fixed shaft screwdriver set for your needs
and have it match all your other screwdrivers, assuming that you just get them all from LTT
store.
And there would be no reason not to, because they're going to be flipping awesome.
Um, the, the smallest handle size is kind of down to almost precision territory, because
remember, we do have a precision driver coming for that really fine work.
And then the biggest one is actually bigger than this one.
It's like, like, you know, like a, like a number three flat head, you know, like, like
the handle on one of those, and it'll, you know, the manufacturer says, don't use it as
a pry bar, but like, it can do it.
What else are any, what else is anybody doing with these screwdrivers?
Um, oh, are we still alive?
What?
Twitch chat saying F.
Oh, it's back.
All right, cool.
Uh, anyway, really excited about those.
I forget what the point of what I was talking about was, but it's going to be great.
Uh, what are, what are we supposed to do?
Oh yeah.
Topics.
Are they hot ones?
Oh, oh man.
Okay, this is really turning into the merch show, but Dan, not you, producer of the H3
podcast, ironically.
Yeah, I was like, what?
Every, every podcast has a Dan.
They're all named Dan.
Oh.
Recently called the LTT screwdriver.
Hey, do, do they have my audio?
They should.
They, they can?
Is that, is that a thing?
Oh, on your laptop.
Sorry.
Is that a thing that can be had?
Uh.
Yeah, play, I'm not hearing anything from you.
Okay.
Got it now.
Ready?
You got it now?
Yeah.
Okay, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go.
Do you want to be able to hear it?
All right.
Yes.
Good.
Let me see if I can get through it to you.
You're going to hear some slapback though.
Okay.
Play.
Are you playing it?
I'm not, I'm not getting audio from you then.
Okay.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, it was.
It's the last time.
Oh, wow.
I definitely hear what you're calling slapback.
That is, uh.
It's muted in the player.
Pretty rough.
Is it?
I think so.
Oh, there's your problem right there.
All right, cool.
Ready?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, by the way, shout out.
There's not the wrong one.
Or maybe not.
Dang it.
No?
Yeah.
I wonder if their Dan versus our Dan, you know, their Dan would be able to get audio
to the host.
No, no, no.
You're not sending me audio.
You're doing a great job, Dan.
Play the video.
Oh, by the way, shout out.
Now, now we're hearing it.
You're not, but.
Are they?
They get canceled?
I mean, they had to happen.
They can hear it.
I'm not hearing what happened to Linus.
Some people are mad at them, man.
People are mad at them?
He still has predation.
Quiet.
Listen.
Just chill.
How many times?
Okay.
Um.
Is.
Is there.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Okay, I have an idea.
I have an idea.
You're going to hate it.
Are you ready for this?
I.
Oh, my.
I've got it now.
You sure?
You can play it now.
Jeez.
I was just going to hold my phone up to the mic.
You just got to threaten him with that.
Yeah, it's amazing how quickly he'll figure it out when you, when you, when you offer up
a janky solution.
I'm going to plug in a GoXLR, Dan.
Okay, we ready?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, by the way, shout out.
Just quiet your side.
Tips.
Or maybe not.
Are they, they get canceled?
I mean, they had a.
What happened?
I'm not in that world.
What happened to Linus?
You got to.
Some people are mad at them, man.
People are mad at them?
He still has credentials, though.
I mean.
Don't shout out.
Listen.
It's the only influencer product I've ever bought in my life.
Oh, really?
It's Linus's screwdriver, and this genuinely is such an awesome screwdriver.
What's so good about it?
Just really well made.
It's a ratchet screwdriver.
So.
This man is selling screwdrivers.
He's selling screwdrivers.
And then in the bottom, it's got.
Oh, that's it.
It's in there.
I've never seen that.
Pretty slick.
Nice.
So, yes.
This is an official Linus Tech Tips collaboration here.
Thank you, Linus.
Sweet.
Heck yeah.
Is he building a computer?
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
It's so cool.
You don't have to build a computer with the LTT screwdriver.
You can do anything.
It's actually, when you try to do something else, there's like a.
That comes up.
It's incompatible.
You should try it out.
Buy one.
Test it.
I really like the idea of buying four or five to store all their different bit types in.
I am definitely doing that.
That is a genius idea.
I never thought about doing that.
That's quite the flex.
When did you think of doing that?
Oh, immediately.
I just had to wait for us to make more colors of it.
Why didn't?
Yeah.
You should advertise that on the store.
Oh, my goodness.
Genius.
Well, like I said, I want it.
Yeah, of course I want to do that.
You know, just have like.
Do a four pack.
Yeah, you can buy a set and they're all different colors.
So, you can immediately go straight to the right set of bits, right?
Because 16 bits, or excuse me, 12 bits, that's not enough for me.
You know?
As an owner of four or five, I will be doing this immediately.
As Hannibal from Floatplane Chat.
Yeah.
I mean, even if you have all the same color ones, you could just put like a thing of tape
around them or whatever else and then they're color coded.
Boom.
You're good.
Apparently, people in Floatplane Chat say I'm wrong because they use it for things other
than building computers.
But I still think you should.
Well, they could be lying.
They're biased.
They're Floatplane Chat.
They're the most hardcore.
Yeah, you guys should.
You should still test it.
Okay.
All right.
Let's talk about fake women who got a conference canceled.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Way to go, fake women.
Online developer conference Devternity.
Is that correct?
Ternity?
Sure.
Has been canceled after several tech executives withdrew as speakers, citing the revelation
that its organizer, Edwards Sizovs, has apparently been making up fake female professionals to
list as speakers at his conferences, including fake biographies, credentials, photos, and social
media accounts.
The motivation seems to have been to trick male speakers who would otherwise refuse to
attend on the grounds that the speaker list was not inclusive.
The conference was scheduled to have over 1,000 attendees, with admittance costing from $435
to $870.
Some of these dev conferences are really expensive.
Yeah.
That's wild.
At least one of the fake women, Julia Kersina, appears to be a direct sock puppet, and her
social media accounts frequently post the same content as the organizers' own accounts
verbatim, albeit with the addition of flirtatious photos and emojis.
Very cool.
Her posts go back to 2019.
Wow.
The organizer claims that the second fake female speaker, Anna Boyko, was a demo persona from
their test website that was mistakenly included in the speaker list.
Yeah, sure, whatever.
He further stated, this year, despite our attempts, we've achieved a worse-than-expected level of
diversity of speakers.
There have been thousands of events chasing the same small subgroup of female speakers.
Okay, now hold on a second.
Can we pause for a minute here?
Or find a different one?
Find a different what, sorry?
Like, woman to speak at your event.
Oh, uh, yeah.
I think his point is that there isn't enough.
Okay, so then making up fake ones is the solution?
Yeah, I don't know.
One reason why this may have gone unnoticed at previous events is because of the relatively
low number of women, both fake and real, attending these conferences.
Only four women were supposed to speak at Devternity, and only two appear to be fake.
Further-
Only two appear to be real, I guess, is what that was meant to be read.
Yeah, I mean, it's true either way.
So, hold on.
Sorry.
I'm gonna let you finish, but was he not expecting people to notice?
I'm assuming you just call, like, a last-minute call-out situation.
Like, is this, is that the real takeaway here?
That he's been pulling this con for years?
Pun intended.
Pun intended, and no one has gone, wow.
No one has gone, wow, I saw her on the speaker list, I want to see her talk, wait a minute,
where is she, and figured this out before.
So, is that the actual problem?
Well, no.
So, as I expected, reading forward, one of the real women dropped out due to medical issues.
So, they actually only had one real one, okay.
And in previous years, it appears that the small number of fake professionals would cancel
at the last minute, which would appear to the observers as a coincidence rather than
deliberate fraud.
So, yeah.
I see.
They would just have them cancel, and then they'd be like, oh, sorry guys, not all the
panel presenters are able to make it.
And then you just have due to peers.
But most of them do, and you paid $1,000 to come here anyways.
So, hope you enjoy the snacks.
I don't know.
Wow, okay.
Our discussion question, while organizers clearly shouldn't be making up fake speakers
for the sake of appearances, is there a genuine supply issue when it comes to prominent female
speakers in tech?
Okay, so there's two answers to this, right?
When it comes to prominent female speakers in tech, I mean, yeah, like you could obviously
find them, you know, Dr. Lisa Sue or something, but does she want to talk at your event, or is
she busy kicking the ass of a company that's 10 times their size?
Yeah, not even development anyway.
So, are there prominent, you know, women in tech?
Sure.
Yes.
Are they busy?
Maybe.
Do all of them want to come talk at your freaking event?
Should someone else have an opportunity?
And is it possible that, you know, the other ones don't want to speak at your event because
it's like a, it's almost like a, like a chicken and egg thing.
Like, do they feel...
I wouldn't be too surprised if there was like, um, some camaraderie amongst the female presenters
that do these events, and they might communicate about what events are cool?
Yeah, I could see that.
I don't, I'm not, I have no idea, but it just kind of makes sense to me.
Um, creators talk, you know, I'm sure it's not that different for, um, people that host
events, talking events, stuff like that.
Shraf 2K says, so tired of the Sioux simping.
Well then, you know, maybe...
Sorry, next time he'll be into leather jackets and expensive kitchens, like...
Yeah, maybe Intel should try, you know, being competitive.
I mean, it's an idea.
It's an idea.
What?
It's a...
Why would you laugh?
That's a, that's a real idea.
That's good.
Maybe you should talk.
You know what?
No, I'm, I'm going to call them right now.
You can say, look, if you don't want us to talk about how...
Great AMD is doing under the leadership of Dr. Sioux, then maybe you should compete better.
Yeah.
Okay, hold on.
Let me just...
Good idea.
In, in, I mean, it's all numbers.
How do I, how do I dial Intel?
T9.
Role playing as a boomer.
Oh man.
Anyway, um, you know, I got to admit, I don't, I don't have solutions to these problems.
I, um...
Yeah.
I, I want there to be them, but, uh, like...
Oh, I just got added.
I, I organized a conference.
Yes.
Apparently it's a thing.
Added to what?
Uh, no, they like, at...
Oh, added.
No, you're role playing as boomer.
Sorry, yes, yes what?
I, I don't remember what the question was.
To my, like, they, they probably talk to each other about what events are cool.
Oh, yeah, okay, that wasn't, that wasn't really a question.
Yeah.
Um, okay, yeah, Pokimane's a prominent woman in gaming, not tech.
Yeah, this is a developer conference.
This is like, you know what, this is like when people, when people say that...
And she probably doesn't want to go talk there anyways.
This is like when people say that I run a tech company.
Yeah, I mean, you do.
Well, okay, that's a different company.
I mean, I'm...
He runs a clothing company.
You still run it.
Okay, stop.
Get out.
But that's not what they're talking about.
That's like when people say accurate things about me.
No, it's just...
No, no, they don't.
Linus liked hamburgers.
Good one.
I'm going to Twitter right now.
I mean, X.
I mean...
Tell them all.
Okay.
Oh, man.
Okay, okay, okay.
The point is...
We're roasted.
When people are referring to Linus Media Group...
I know, I'm just bugging you.
And they say that I run a tech company.
Seriously, the number of people that have made business pitches to me, you know, saying that I could...
You know, help assist them or asking if I have any, you know, advice for their tech startup.
I'm sitting here going...
I literally...
It has the...
Okay, I put my own name in the name.
Okay?
I put everyone else in the name.
And then I put...
And then I put media in the f***ing name.
How could I be more explicit?
Yeah, but you literally had a software startup.
Yeah, I know.
I mean...
Did I have it start up or did I have it just kind of float there?
Wow, wow.
Wow.
Boom roasted.
I mean, I was told when we were starting it, like, you know, when you guys are ready, I'm so excited.
I'm going to...
I'm going to, like, do the business side of this.
And then...
I wanted to.
Yeah.
It was really busy.
Okay.
Oh, man.
I mean, in fairness to Floatplane, guys, the tech is super cool.
It is very good.
And the supporters over there are absolutely amazing.
Shout out Floatplane chat right now.
It is self-sufficient.
And I've told Luke this before.
Floatplane did what I thought was impossible.
Floatplane built a completely self-funded dev team within our company that has allowed us to do all kinds of incredible things, many of which you haven't seen yet.
But you will.
You will someday.
And it's awesome.
And all of it, all of it is possible because of the Floatplane supporters that we have.
So...
You know what?
Shout out you guys.
You are the real MVP.
Dankpod likes...
He likes it a lot.
Dankpods is...
He's a fan.
Yeah.
We legitimately do have actual creators on the platform other than ourselves as well.
Yeah.
It's just they have to be realistic creators that understand and appreciate the value of Floatplane.
The value is not that you're going to get the best possible revenue split because that's not how this works.
We are self-funded.
We have to...
We are privately held.
We have to actually make money.
This is not just...
We can burn VC money and just create a large user base without caring about sustainability.
Our revenue share is, I believe, competitive with YouTube memberships.
YouTube and Twitch, yeah.
And with Twitch.
But compared to some other services that, for example, don't pay for their own video hosting, yeah, it's not going to look as competitive.
But the difference is that we're never going to rug pull you because it's sustainable, right?
So...
We have a new channel on the platform, too.
And there's really cool stuff.
Okay, I'm going to hear about that in a second.
And there's really cool stuff about the platform that not everyone appreciates.
Not everybody cares that, you know, the sound quality is better.
Dankpods does.
It's very nice on stream.
Matters a lot to him.
Yeah, especially when he's streaming.
It's really hard to have a drum stream sound good when your audio is all compressed to heck.
We don't even necessarily know why.
We didn't do a lot for that.
Well, yeah, but that's exactly it.
People come to the stream all the time and they're like, it's great.
And it's like, okay.
But, Luke, that's exactly it.
We didn't do anything.
I mean, I'll take it.
We didn't kill it.
Yeah, I guess.
Sometimes that's all you have to do is not make it worse actively.
We get comments about that, like, literally all the time.
And it's always surprising to me.
I don't watch a lot of streams, though.
So, like...
Also known as none.
Do we have any idea why the Twitch stream keeps going down?
Because Flowplane's not.
And YouTube's not.
If YouTube and Flowplane are not, then, like...
Oh, that's weird.
But, yeah, James Channel.
James Channel is now on Flowplane.
You might recognize that reference, maybe.
I don't know.
Possibly.
If you have watched...
What is it called on YouTube?
It's the Trash Network's car channel, which I believe is Garbage Time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there we go.
So, Garbage Time.
He's the mechanic for Dank Pods on Garbage Time.
And now he has his own channel on Flowplane.
Oh, super cool.
Doing stuff with video games.
I am apparently not subscribed yet.
Old video games, retro video games.
Super cool.
Checking out electronics.
Brand new release from McDonald's.
Heck, yeah.
I mean, yeah, it's definitely got a...
Yeah, these guys have a vibe.
They got a shtick, yeah.
Oh, I wonder if I'm allowed to...
You know what?
I'm going for it.
I'm going for it.
Did you know that someone is traveling?
Is that...
Is that...
Can't subscribe.
Oh, yeah.
He has no public...
Yeah, apparently we're hanging out.
Is that common knowledge?
He told me today.
So, I was like, oh, uh, sure.
Yeah, Dank Pods coming to town.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
It's sick.
Yeah, because something happened.
We made our own headphones.
He's going to help us review them.
No, no.
I don't mean we developed a product.
Okay.
I mean, we made headphones.
All right.
Yeah, there we go.
It's going to be good.
And Adam was involved.
So, you know that the build quality is going to be on par with what Adam and I build.
I love...
I was told to set James Channel's channel public.
And it's there.
And you can see it.
And you can see all the content.
But he didn't set up any plans.
So, you can't subscribe.
So, I'm going to have to tell him to go in and set some plans.
Nice job onboarding there, Luke.
I did what I could.
I got to set up the plans.
I mean, if 100% of the users you onboarded this week screwed it up, then is it really on them?
Yeah, that's a good point.
That is honestly a pretty good point.
Okay.
Another topic.
I want to talk about the dbrand Casetify situation.
All right.
So, this source one is...
What is this?
Source one is on Twitter.
Twitter.
Ooh.
Mango Parade.
At dbrand.
I work at Best Buy.
Got an internal notice that Casetify's rip-off products are being recalled countrywide.
Don't sell, recall, withdrawn.
iPhone 14 Pro Casetify.
Oh, interesting.
I wonder if this is Best Buy's own initiative or if this is Casetify trying to get these things back.
What is that text?
Don't sell, dash, recall, slash, misspelling of withdrawn.
Don't sell.
Recall, slash, withdrawn.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Casetify says it is investigating the allegations of copyright infringement leveled by dbrand
and Zach from JerryRigEverything, as well as a DDoS attack that disrupted our website
when the allegation surfaced.
Are you really expecting sympathy right now?
Also, pro tip.
Don't complain about a DDoS.
Oh.
I did think, like, what are you going to come up with with your investigation?
If I was going to write a manual, okay?
If I was going to write a manual.
Leave that bear alone.
For how to not get DDoS'd.
It would be to say,
No, it's just...
Please don't DDoS me.
That would be...
No, that would be step one in the manual.
Oh, boy.
It made me so sad.
But, yeah, my thing is, like, what...
They think they're going to come up with, like,
it was definitely Dbrand who DDoS'd us.
Like, what do they think this is going to result in?
No, it wasn't.
Yeah.
They claim that Case Defy has always been a bastion of originality.
Sick.
And they hold pride in that.
That's cool.
Dbrand has been one heck of a cannon the whole time,
so I think it makes sense.
Really?
Cannons attacking bastions?
They do like to send it.
Case Defy withdrew its line of inside-out cases from sale on its own site last week,
but they were still available for sale in person and online via Best Buy this week.
I suspect it was Case Defy that called the pack.
That kind of makes sense.
Our discussion question.
This is great.
Who the hell begins their copyright claim investigation with,
we have always been a bastion of originality when the alleged,
I added this part, alleged crime is this obvious.
The guilty.
Case Defy.
That's the full list.
The allegedly guilty.
This is brutal, dude.
Yeah.
This is absolutely brutal.
I can't, I can't.
It sure is.
I mean, here's the thing.
I, I think if they apologize, it's an admission of guilt.
Whereas if they don't, they can still fight it.
So that's like, I don't know exactly how the legal system works.
Even here.
I haven't really been embroiled in a lot of legal troubles.
Anyway.
And I especially don't know how the legal system works in other jurisdictions.
But my understanding is that, you know, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
And if they were to say something like, we're sorry, we infringed on you.
Let's, we'll, we're going to pull them down now.
So then if D brand and Zach were not just all like, okay, we chill now, then their case would become even more open shut than it already appears to be.
So I doubt they have a choice with respect to, you know, apologizing and admitting their errors, at least from like protecting themselves from legal damages standpoint.
But they definitely didn't have to say that they were a bastion of originality.
So I guess that's where we're at on that.
Oh, interesting.
In Ontario, there apparently is an apology act, which is the kind of thing you would have in Canada, which makes it so that saying sorry isn't an admission of guilt.
Hashtag sorry.
I mean, remember that this is, this is Canada.
This is, this is Canada here.
Okay.
So sorry is just, it's, we bump into other people at the airport and we're like, or sorry, other people bump into us at the airport and we're like, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Sorry for being in your way.
In the way of you.
I'm sorry.
My face was where your elbow needed to be.
Like in Canada can also be a question.
I don't know if that's a thing in other places in the world.
A question.
Like, sorry.
Yeah.
No, that's a thing.
Like, hello.
Yeah.
That's, that's totally a thing.
Right.
I don't know.
Might be.
I don't know.
I was a, I was a what kid.
What?
Um, and one of my.
That's obnoxious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of my friends was a, um, a pardon.
Excuse me.
I beg your pardon.
And I started doing it to mock him.
And now I'm 100% on like, pardon.
Yeah.
You do that.
I'm very, I'm, I'm so sorry.
I didn't hear you.
Like I've, I, the more, the funny thing with Linus is like the more, how do you say it?
I beg your pardon?
The more like appropriately he words it, the absolute, like it's, it's, uh, maybe even
it's logarithmic.
I'm not sure, but it's, it's more sassy.
No, it's, it's just habit now.
I don't, I don't even mean it.
It scales a little bit.
It started sassy and it started that sassy.
Yeah.
But like.
Has it toned out?
Maybe I just haven't been paying attention.
Luke, I don't even think about it.
I'll hear myself say, I'll hear myself say it.
I don't think you need to though.
But, but I'm not even, but I'm not even sassy.
A lot of times.
It's just one of those reflex gunners.
I just didn't really, I just didn't hear you.
And I'm sorry for that.
Begging your pardon, sir.
Okay.
That, there I'm being sassy.
That's my point though.
If he, if he, if he.
That is the most sassy thing I've ever had.
See?
Please, sir.
I beg your pardon.
Get out of here.
Oh my goodness.
And get out of here, NVIDIA.
You're no longer a graphics company.
Yeah, apparently.
What does that even mean?
I'll tell you.
They've been trending this direction for a long time.
According to NVIDIA vice president of corporate marketing, Greg Estes, speaking to reporter
Stephen Witt, the decision to pivot to AI happened incredibly quickly, shortly after the rise
of chat GPT.
CEO Jensen Huang sent out an email one Friday evening saying, everything is going to deep
learning and we are, we're no longer a graphics company.
By Monday morning, we were an AI company.
Literally, it was that fast.
Which is obviously complete bullshit.
NVIDIA has been moving towards GPU compute.
Just everything changed.
Everything.
We woke up and we were like, whoa.
Yeah.
The air even feels different in here.
It's remarkable that you got blindsided by this because the rest of us have been talking
about it for years.
But hey.
Oh man.
It's cool that you guys finally said the quiet part out loud.
Yeah.
That was how Witt referred to Estes' statement.
Around the same time, NVIDIA's leading AI researcher, who I assume they hired right when
they made this decision, because why would they have an AI researcher if they were a graphics
company before?
So they just, they pivoted so fast.
Brian Catanzaro said that Huang approached him and told him, quote, to imagine he'd marched
all 8,000 of NVIDIA's employees into the parking lot.
Then he told me I was free to select anyone from the parking lot to join my team.
That's so wildly overdramatic.
Yeah.
That's like not actually how that works anyway.
That's like Bollywood.
And then it turns into a giant dance number.
Yeah.
And then like some Jeep comes like flying over.
Somebody's riding on the hood.
Like, yeah, let's go.
I'm the one that's going to be selected.
Sorry.
Okay.
What does this mean for desktop graphics?
Did you and I make the switch to Team Red just in time to not have a choice anymore?
Yeah.
I mean, I suspect they'll still make GPUs.
Why bother?
Yeah.
Keep the fabs for something else.
Not everybody stays in the consumer space.
I mean, okay.
Obviously, this is a much, much smaller scale example.
But I think consumers in general, particularly enthusiasts, tend to overestimate their own importance.
I think they tend to overestimate the size and strength of the enthusiast market.
And obviously, gaming has grown a lot.
But I think to consumers, DFI, for example, died 15 years ago or 10 years ago or whenever they stopped making motherboards.
I like DFI.
Except for one small detail.
They never stopped making motherboards.
DFI still exists today.
Every once in a while, I will walk past the DFI booth at a trade show and be like, oh, yeah.
Diamond Flower International.
Sorry, excuse me.
Design for Innovation.
That was a retcon back in the day.
Yeah.
Oh, IBM.
Yeah.
IBM is a great example.
They even pulled out their, like, sub-brand.
Yeah.
They got rid of Lenovo.
Yep.
See you later.
And so, why not?
Why doesn't NVIDIA just go, eh, AI is the future.
See you.
Why don't we just buy every possible wafer and turn it into AI accelerators?
Just turn it into, it's probably worth more than gold.
And just be the entire AI future of the entire planet.
And let AMD and Intel fight over, like, these, like, whiny, b****y gamers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, bow to their, you know, complaining about your prices.
They complain about your product.
They complain about everything, you know?
And to be clear, I'm not saying the complaints aren't valid.
I'm just saying that it's a lot less challenging from a day-to-day standpoint, not from an engineering
standpoint, but from a day-to-day standpoint, having just a handful of customers that you
can engage with meaningfully one-on-one who have big money compared to having a whole bunch
of customers that are going to, that are going to hate you no matter what you do, no matter
how good of a deal you give them.
I don't think that that last part is necessarily true, but I could see how NVIDIA might kind
of perceive it that way these days.
You know, from their point of view, Moore's law is dead and you should accept it and we're
giving you the best we can deal with it.
Um, you know, I'm sorry you're mad, essentially, right?
Yeah.
Um, but it's not like we didn't like them when we felt like we were, you know, getting
a lot from them, but, you know, really it's not that we're not still getting stuff.
It's just that we're not getting what we're accustomed to.
And that's really, that's really challenging.
Um, that makes us feel, you know, not, not taken seriously.
And I, I guess, yeah, I don't think, I don't think NVIDIA does take the gaming market nearly
as seriously as it used to.
And I think you can see that evidenced in the way that NVIDIA talks about it.
Um, yeah, it sucks.
Cause it's not like I don't like the products, right?
I mean, Z Biggie says, what's the percentage of their business that's graphics?
Microsoft has about 8% of their revenue from Xbox.
So if they keep a division that's 8%, why wouldn't NVIDIA keep graphics?
I'm, uh, look, it's possible.
Yeah.
They'll keep graphics forever and they're, and they'll, you know, eventually turn into
kind of a, you know, a scrappy subdivision or whatever the case may be.
I don't think you can do that comparison either though.
But we're talking fab capacity.
Well, not just not, it's not just fab capacity.
It's also just the, um, I don't know.
It's almost just like the will.
It's like the, it's like the, the, the interest, you know, I, I haven't, I haven't spent a ton
of time talking to Jensen.
I've only met him, I think a couple of times.
Um, but from, you know, interviews from watching him talk, um, from those handful of interactions,
you know, he's a super passionate guy.
I'm sure.
Every story I've heard about him, super, super passionate.
Um, I've heard him, I've heard him described as the kind of boss where he can be hyper assertive
and swoop in and act like he can do your job better than you can.
And what makes you most infuriated is the fact that he can, and it's like, okay, well, what
do I do now?
Because I've been, you know, like, like I've heard him described that way.
I've also heard him described in other less favorable ways, but the point is everything
aligns with this perception that he's extremely passionate and he's clearly passionate about
AI now.
Um, and their leadership very much flows from the top down.
Yeah.
And so, you know what?
Yeah.
Maybe, maybe gaming, you know, does continue to get some attention over there, but maybe
it doesn't.
Cause remember too, it's not just about what percentage of your overall business it is.
Sometimes it's about what looks better to your shareholders and gaming margins are pretty
crappy compared to workstation margins compared to enterprise margins.
Um, and you know what?
Yeah.
They, they might, they might like the volume, um, you know, that, that might ultimately result
in, in bigger volume discounts for their real products that they make margin on when they're
booking with a, you know, a TSMC or who knows someday, maybe Intel's, you know, fab, uh, fab
business or something like that.
But I don't, I just, all I'm saying is I don't think it's a guarantee.
Yeah.
CEOs are infinitely replaceable.
I don't get the focus on them, says SIGINT.
That's super not true.
That's actually like super not true.
Think about it this way.
I think we can all agree that a bad CEO can destroy a company.
QED.
That was it.
Yep.
That's it.
That whole argument obliterated.
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Amazing.
Oh, this is hilarious.
I didn't know dbrand was a sponsor for the show today.
They sponsored WANSHOW After Dark.
Yeah.
So when I was all like, f*** dbrand, our sponsor, I just thought it meant in general.
I didn't mean specifically right now.
It's great.
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All right.
Oh, we're supposed to do three merch messages.
Do you want to do the first one, Luke?
Because I have to go pee.
Sure.
If there's one for me, let's go.
I will have a look.
Luke, nobody asked them about you.
No, there's a couple good ones in here.
Sure.
Luke, any thoughts on World of Warcraft's classic season of Discovery?
I hadn't played classic before, but it's been a blast finding and sharing new things with everyone.
Yeah, my brother and a buddy of mine played last night, actually.
It's the only time I had this entire week, so it was convenient because it came out yesterday.
It's pretty cool.
I am intentionally, the whole idea is the discovery word, right?
So I've intentionally been going in pretty blind, not trying to look things up, just trying to play it and see what's going on.
And it seems neat so far.
I don't have a lot else to say.
I haven't played a ton.
We'll see how it goes.
So the whole idea, if you haven't heard of it, is they have like a progressing level cap.
So it's classic with some changes through this rune system that you can look up if you care.
And then the initial level cap is all 25.
And there's like, they turn some dungeon into a raid or something, and we can go do that.
And there's other new gear and things are cool.
But it's like, it's like a different experience, but in the WoW Classic environment, which is a cool concept.
I feel like they took a lot of lead from like RuneScape, who's done very similar things.
Just like they took a lot of lead from RuneScape when they made WoW Classic at all.
So they're just taking more leads from that book.
But yeah, it was good.
Luke, as a software developer, why do you not share the programmer's pessimism perspective to large language model AIs?
The last 10% is always the hardest and longest part.
For example, self-driving cars.
Yeah, when did I not say that?
I have no idea.
This anonymous person thinks that you think like that?
Yeah.
Do you think like that?
No.
I think I'm probably less pessimistic about where it's at now.
That might be where the confusion's at.
I've said a number of times on WAN Show that I think it's like really far away from being 100%.
Like many years, probably.
The hallucination problem is going to stick around for like a hot minute.
Do you think it'll get worse?
Because you're seeing self-feeding data now.
Yeah.
There's a lot of potential for that.
We'll have to see if they can find some tricks to try to stop that from happening.
It felt like it kind of did at one point already.
It's hard to measure.
It's very hard to measure.
But yeah, no.
Yeah.
Finishing this thing is going to be a problem.
I said like in one of the first streams that we ever covered AI stuff, that's of course where we ended up, that like shipping products around this was going to be incredibly difficult and take a very long time.
And that has proven to be the case.
Okay, and let's see.
We've got one more here for Linus.
Nice.
I'm just in time.
You're just in time.
It would have been awkward if you'd read one for Linus while I wasn't here.
With my kids deciding to plant my screwdriver bits, thanks for the restock, and needing to...
Plant them?
Like in the garden.
I mean, that's one way to get more.
Yeah.
That's one weird trick.
And needing shipment to Australia.
What's the most expensive thing your kids have broken or lost?
Wow, my kids are actually super careful.
Like I, like my son got his first phone at, I think, eight.
Wow, seven or eight.
Still has it.
Perfect condition.
I'm trying to think.
What do they have that...
Oh, they almost broke something very expensive.
The Sony OLED TV in the family room.
My girls, while it was just sitting in the base of the TV packaging,
while it was just sitting there, they knocked the whole thing over.
It lived?
Not a scratch.
Whoa.
I gave them, it was a miracle that it wasn't broken, because that was thousands of dollars.
Yeah.
Um, so that's the, I think the closest that they've gotten to breaking something very significant.
I mean, they do damage to the house and stuff, but I...
Yeah, so a lot of that's just gonna happen.
That's just, that's, that's pretty much wear and tear.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah, I'd, I'd say that's the worst they ever did.
I, I thought you were gonna take the approach of like, you've kind of colloquially called some of your employees' kids before.
Oh, they've broken stuff.
Yeah, don't imagine for a second that I'm the only one who's ever broken anything around here.
I'm just the only one who is on camera when it happens.
And catches the blame.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I, I 100% thought it was going to your floor.
Anyways, I think that was the third.
We move on to three more topics.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, what, what, what is this?
Legally distinct tech VTubers?
I don't know what that is.
From Zowa?
I don't really want to click on that stuff.
Hey Linus, click this.
Well, I'm going to do it.
Oh my goodness.
Uh.
Is that you and me?
Yep.
Let's go.
I got Linus of that.
Fly boat.
Fly boat media.
That's great.
Lucy Levalure.
That's a really good name, actually.
That's actually sick.
Oh, okay.
It's like a stage name.
That's dope.
That's a great, great name.
Wow.
Uh, cool.
I, that's not what I was expecting to look at today.
You're actively dropping a GPU.
I think I'm throwing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
I'm down with that.
Yeah.
Um.
I think it's great.
I would VTuber with that persona.
I would a hundred percent do that.
Oh, what is this?
Is this a video?
Also, Dan.
Wait, what?
No way.
No way.
No way.
What is it?
Wait for it.
Legally distinct tech show producer.
What's up?
Oh, no.
I love the little, like, the, like, anime sweat bead thing.
Oh, no.
Do you see it?
Oh, no.
That totally fits.
I have one of those, like, turtleneck sweater things, too.
Very similar.
That is, that is very cool.
I'm flattered.
Those are dope.
That's super cool.
Uh, great, great job.
Um.
You've done this.
Oh, yours has earrings.
Yeah, that, that doesn't surprise me.
They are, they are shockingly on point.
They're actually really good.
I genuinely really like mine.
That's cool.
Don't say wood.
Get out of here.
Leave it alone.
Don't do that.
That's, that's me.
That's literally me.
You can't say that.
Come on.
All four of you.
I feel, I feel protective of my little avatar now.
Lucy.
Don't make, don't go after Lucy.
Leave Lucy alone.
Oh, no.
Floatplane, why?
Leave Lena alone, too.
She's lawless.
Oh, my.
Yeah, I don't know.
Wow.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Let's, um.
Let's move on.
Uh, Microsoft Paint Plus.
Now with Dolly.
Oh, no way.
We get to try it?
Yay.
The Windows 11 Paint app.
Oh.
Now has an integrated co-creator text-to-image generator feature.
Yeah, so is this, is this all users, or is this just like early access people, or?
Pre-release.
Pre-release, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Hey, Luke, want to play a game?
Sure.
It's called MS Paint.
It's the best game.
Okay.
People from, people from our era, um, that's actually a thing.
When, when you didn't have the internet.
Give me your laptop.
No, I want it.
Come on, Lena.
Why are you taking it?
Come on, Lena.
No, I want my, I want the doc in the chat.
Can I just have it here?
Okay, you do it.
Let them, let them have it, Lena.
Can I, can I just have it?
It's playing audio.
It's playing audio.
Yeah, because you unplug the HDMI, so the audio device reset.
Dan told me to unplug the HDMI.
Yeah, but there's other steps included in that process.
Figured out, Lena.
Trying to make things smooth.
Trying to make things smooth.
Sorry.
Can't make it smooth.
Sorry, Luca, or whatever your name is.
Lucy, get it right.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I mean, I only got one letter wrong.
It's 75% right.
You should totally license the design for some t-shirts.
That would be a pretty specific reference, but I bet you people would buy it.
Stop.
I know I would.
Stop it, Ian!
No!
No!
No!
No!
Stop.
Is the computer not even booting?
I mean, Dan prepared it, so it was a 50-50 shot from the outset.
Everything's 50-50.
In this case, it either worked or it didn't.
Oh, you know what?
I think it's probably outputting to the external display because it's on.
It's not.
It's like...
Oh.
No body pillow!
It's not even on.
Stop.
We have a body pillow coming.
Is it like a GPU?
All I'll say is that it's coming.
Oh!
No!
Oh!
I hate it here.
It just uses the confetti design from the women's underwear and the onesie.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, we decided not to go anime girl with it.
Um, we thought we'd keep it, um, you know, put the CL in it, you know?
You know, with the CL.
Classy.
Not without the CL, you know?
Classy with an I.
What's going on here, Dan?
I don't know.
Laptop won't turn on.
Maybe take the laptop away from him and get it turned on and then bring it back.
My magic fingers.
We can do another topic.
I touch tech, it break.
Luke said this would happen.
Did I?
Did you say this would happen?
Did I?
Oh, yeah!
No, I totally did.
Yeah, let's go!
I remember that!
I didn't do anything.
No, I was...
I can't explain this.
It doesn't even have Linux on it.
That I know.
No, this is my whole point.
I was talking about how we were going to work on something,
but I was like, we have to be really, really thorough about it.
We should test it really thoroughly.
And then before we release it, we need to hand it to Linus
because everything breaks when he touches it.
So that'll be our, like, final line of testing.
Sometimes things magically work when I touch them, though.
Yeah.
You've witnessed that.
But if something is currently working...
Oh, so my power is that I change the functional status of things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm angry.
It's okay.
All right.
That's really funny.
That's fine.
We'll do that later.
Yeah.
Yeah, whenever it's working.
Who cares?
We can talk about how our social media team is hiring.
Sure.
We're hiring both a short-form video coordinator
and an organic content and memes coordinator.
Is that really a job title here?
I'll call it out right now as well.
It's going to be posted up very soon.
I wanted it posted up this week,
but for reasons it's not.
But it'll be up sometime next week.
But we're posting a position
that probably a surprising amount of you
are going to be interested in,
and I'm kind of terrified about the incoming applications.
But it is local only, so that should help a lot.
It must be local only,
and you must literally right now
be legally able to work in Canada.
So, like, you pretty much have to be here already,
to be clear.
But we are hiring a, like, junior level one
IT tech support position.
We need some help on that team.
So full-time.
You're going to get some applicants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Full-time, but you don't need a ton of experience.
We are looking for someone
that would obviously be able to, like,
construct and deconstruct computers,
do some basic troubleshooting,
have some basic understanding of networks
and networking, stuff like that.
Lots of opportunity to learn on the job,
working under, like, AJ and Sean and myself,
and with Dan.
And, yeah.
It should be really cool.
Maybe an interesting opportunity.
But it is, yeah,
it is a very junior position.
Yeah.
Sounds mint.
Junior mint.
All right.
I was like, is he being a zoomer?
That's a stretch.
And I was like, nope, he's being a boomer.
You're not sure which one.
Mint's not a zoomer thing.
Junior mints?
No, I just mean, like, mint.
That's mint.
That's, that's, nah, that's ancient.
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, okay.
I'm not going to.
I thought that's what you were saying.
Yeah.
I have no idea.
Wait, what do you mean nice zoomer talk?
No, Elijah said the same thing.
Did I just fool him?
Is he trying to act?
Like, how old is he?
Is he not zoomery anymore?
Is he not young?
I don't know.
Are zoomers old now?
No.
I don't know.
What's the one under them?
I mean, they're less old than us.
What's the next one?
Under them is Gen Alpha.
Oh, wow.
I know, right?
Wow.
I mean, who gets to name these things?
Imagine being called Gen Alpha.
Yeah, then what's the next one going to be?
Sigma?
Wow.
Yeah.
Gen Chad?
He says the battery was charged, which...
Oh, yeah.
So, Dan did something really cool, too, with the, like, back grid display thing on here.
That sounds like a good use of time.
Here you go.
Um, honestly, he was probably bored waiting for you, yeah.
He was actually waiting for Luke.
Oh, damn.
God, I'm waiting for Luke.
Love it.
Psyched.
You guys couldn't hear his comeback.
I was stuck in a meeting.
Luke got roasted.
I did.
Like, over an open fire.
Yeah.
He was a chestnut.
If I was...
It's Christmas.
What do you want?
If I was...
It's December now.
If I was Gen Alpha, it probably wouldn't even have affected me at all.
It's fair game.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I never checked if, um, Elijah responded.
To what?
Man, the next AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade is great.
Oh, he said I'm 17, so he's, like, clearly...
They, um...
It's not true.
I don't believe you.
They, Elijah, saved the workspace.
What?
So we've got work-safe signs on the stairs about maintaining three points of contact.
Cover the stairs with pillows.
We also provided Elijah with a helmet.
We thought it was easier to put the padding on him than to try to put the padding on everything
he might touch.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Just, like, tape him up like pillows.
You guys.
Oh, yeah.
You got to look at the back of the laptop.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, that's, um...
That was good use of time.
Oh, I thought it said short Linus.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, no.
Wait, what?
Well, I don't know.
I thought maybe DRAM put him up to it because they sponsored the, uh, they sponsored the,
uh, After Dark today.
Uh, the, okay, the Wanshore.
Does it just say Linus Tech?
Okay.
Oh, that, wow.
Does this take a long time?
Or is it just, like, you just, like, do text entry?
I think you just took a long time to comprehend it.
Oh, but...
Because it's pretty straightforward.
I'm just asking if it takes a long time to program it, okay?
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
It's done in After Effects.
It took about 25 hours.
Shut up.
Stop.
It's just part of the ROG tool.
Yeah, I just mean, like, do you just...
You just type Linus Tech Tips.
Like, can you do different fonts and stuff?
Yeah, there's font selection.
You can do little animations and pictures and things like that.
It's neat.
Yeah, I've never played around before.
Is it already set up for the three different lines?
You can have up to eight.
Okay.
Really?
Yeah.
So, but the lines on angle is, like, a default thing.
Yeah, you have to do it exactly like this.
And it kind of is frustrating.
But whatever.
Okay.
Okay, that seems to be working.
Let's get rid of your person there.
Co-creator.
Okay.
So, here we go.
I have no idea how this works.
So, I'm going to make...
You only have 50 tokens right now.
You can see down the bottom.
So, don't go, like, too crazy.
Okay.
So, I'm going to make Luke super mad.
Because I'm probably going to, you know, do something that, you know, it doesn't do or whatever.
And they didn't intend.
And then he'll be mad.
No, I don't care.
Just do it.
I'm drawing with a trackpad.
Okay.
So, go easy on me here.
Okay.
I'm going to need...
When are you going to use the co-creator?
Do I make a manscaped joke?
I'm going to use the co-creator.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
So, you're going to draw a bass scene and you're going to ask it to, like, improve it or something?
Yeah.
Okay.
I want, like...
That's cool.
That seems like a good use.
I want the...
You should ask it to add something to it while matching your art style.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Okay.
That's not something I thought of, but I do like.
I just...
I seriously don't think it'll be able to do it, but I just wonder.
Okay.
What just happened?
What was this?
Did I not just say solid fill?
What was the point of me saying that?
I am not sure if I understand.
I must have done something wrong here, but there.
Boom.
Got him.
And then, you know what?
Let's do some...
Let's do some little flowery flowers.
Nice.
Oops.
Things were attempted.
Let's put some happy little trees over there.
Happy little flowers.
Okay.
Here we go.
Little happy flowers.
Boop.
Wow.
Boop, boop, boop.
Boop, boop, boop.
Such, such legally distinct petals.
Leaves?
Okay.
I would like to add...
Is that a black line with like a red outline?
Is that what you just did?
Getting fancy.
Can you add a person?
No.
Why do I...
Why am I so polite?
Add a person to my scene in the same art style.
You can be polite.
It's fine.
Create.
Create.
Create.
Create.
I just...
I have a feeling it's going to struggle with the art style.
Yeah, there's no way.
Yeah.
I just want to see it like try.
It's thinking for a minute.
Wow.
Interesting.
It did try.
Okay.
Let's try something else.
Oh, so it doesn't actually do it?
Do you have to like drag and drop the selections over?
Is that what's going on?
No.
No, that's...
These are styles you can select.
No, no, no.
The things under it.
These?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Because you said, can you add it to it?
Can it actually do it for you?
Oh.
Wow.
Okay.
That is very surrealist.
I mean, that's something.
Yeah.
It is a thing.
It takes a minute.
Huh.
What is that?
What the...
I mean, that's...
What is that chair?
It's kind of like what I drew.
Is it...
Does that go...
Does that go between your legs or...
Very smooth?
It's got quite the headrest on there.
What about this chair, though?
Oh, my.
Huh.
That's a unique design.
I think that this would be an amazing store.
AICreations.com.
You just find things like this.
You...
You...
You f***ing make them.
Oh, yeah.
So, like, you make this, like, impossible chair because you just...
You route that...
The, like, black line that's on there, like, through the top.
And you make it work.
It would be possible.
It would just be kind of sketchy.
Like, as...
Man, that back leg, that's just a spike.
Like, has this been done, like, as an art installation?
Just, like, you know, as a commentary on AI or whatever?
Just, like, someone creates?
People are already grabbing the domain.
Yeah, I'm sure they are.
It's over.
I'm sure they are.
What are these other ones that came up with?
It does...
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
Did anyone...
Did anyone own it already?
I'm sure there are people who just, like, already have it ready to go.
I hate that GoDaddy is, like, still the fastest way to check this.
No, man.
That's taken.
That's taken.
Yeah.
AIcreation.ca is for one cent.
Nice.
I kind of just want to look at some of this stuff.
What is this thing?
What's that lamp?
Like, what is...
Luke, what is this thing?
I don't know.
It looks like a desk organizer, actually.
What is this?
It looks like...
A plushie.
Yeah, it looks like somewhere between Eeyore and Ratatouille.
Yeah.
There's a measuring tape that's, like, partially out just on the table.
Is this a balloon?
A hard hat?
Popcorn bowl?
Impossible to say.
That is some art.
Artbuster ones?
It's a lot of art.
It's really interesting seeing the AI art within the AI art.
Yeah.
It was like, yeah, I don't know.
Lamp.
I guess lamp.
But, like, worse.
Worlds within worlds.
Like, what would an AI...
Multi-dimensional art.
What would an AI draw?
That's pretty cool.
I mean, it's not what I asked for, but it's pretty cool.
Like, how do these...
I just think it just did a photorealistic scene.
I don't know if it really tried to...
Yeah, I think it didn't look at what you did at all.
Hmm.
Like, not even slightly.
Okay, well, why don't we ask it for...
So, basically, then, is this any different...
I can't...
Does it look at what you've done at all, or is it just the prompt?
I think it might just be a prompt.
There's a little information icon just to the right of describe what you want to see.
Oh, yeah.
I wonder if that helps.
Thanks, Dan.
No, I mean, I also don't know.
Powered by Dali, an AI system that creates realistic images, blah, blah, blah.
If you find a creation to be unexpected or offensive, send us feedback.
Yeah, so, no, this is just...
I think that first image might have been slightly offensive.
This is just Dali.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
So, choose a style?
What's under choose a style?
Oh?
Oh?
Oh.
In the style of anime.
I'm excited right now.
I hope I'm doing a cool stance when I do it.
It probably won't.
I hope I'm, like, Narito running.
It won't show a specific person.
Whoa.
Oh.
It's just...
There's, like...
There's no actual, like, nose.
The finger's just there.
He's choosing where his nose is going to go.
This neck thing it's got going on, though.
Wow.
Those collarbones are ready for action.
How are we doing for finger count here?
Hmm, whoops.
The fingers are...
There are six of them, which is fine.
Also, this is an interesting shape.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see the rest of them.
That one's, like, better.
I'm not picking, but it's better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's better.
Is that the correct amount of fingers?
Nope.
Nope.
I mean, well, I don't know.
It depends what this thing is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not sure what that is.
I think this one might be my favorite.
He tried to pick his nose, but he missed because his eyes were closed.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, wait.
Is this actually...
Wait.
Is this actually...
They're all kind of blonde and blue eyes.
Yeah.
Did it actually know who I was talking about?
I don't know.
I can't tell.
Theoretically, you can search the internet now, so, like, maybe.
Okay.
Do you.
Luke Lafreniere from Linus Tech Tips.
Oh, oh, hold on.
Hold on.
As an anime girl with ears, let's see how close we can get to that artwork from earlier in the
show.
All right.
Here we go.
Yeah.
I'm very scared.
Lucy.
I don't remember the last name.
It's stressful.
I expect greatness.
It's apparently against Dali terms of service to do real people.
Oh.
Well, that didn't stop it.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Hmm.
Huh.
That looks really...
Not anime.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, he's wearing a blue hoodie.
Like, I think this is actually inspired by you, though.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
That's not as close.
Yeah.
The first one was.
Whoa.
Wow.
There's some stuff going on.
There's some stuff going on here for sure.
The caddier things are just, like, behind him as well.
No, no.
That's the other picture.
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, you mean this.
Yeah.
Okay.
They look more like horns.
Sure.
Okay.
I mean, see, it's funny.
Because it's like, oh, no.
The sweater prevalence.
We can't quite do that.
We can't have too much resemblance.
But, like, here's a black and orange hoodie.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Here's a kind of weird neck beard.
So, it's obviously using a very old image of you if it did use an image of you as a reference.
I mean, that's probably what is most common, you know.
I haven't really been in that many videos.
All right.
Here we go.
Let's see.
Oh, man.
There's interesting reference for this because of the caddier headphones.
Mmm.
And also the fact that...
Oh, well.
Okay.
That looks very similar to one of the ones that looked like me.
Whoa.
That is...
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Okay.
Should have just not even had the hand up.
Those neck muscles are pushing for that face.
And then...
You know what?
Wow.
That's...
I think the closest we're probably going to get here.
Look at that right hand.
I mean, that's a left hand, but...
Left hand.
Yes.
Yeah.
You did good.
All right.
So, why don't we try...
Why don't we try one more thing?
You got any other ideas?
So, what would this be helpful with?
My favorite is anything with Francesco Goya in the style of Francesco Goya.
Yeah.
Ah, that's sort of controversial, Dan.
Is it?
Okay.
Never mind then.
Yeah, I think so.
Who's that?
I don't know.
Okay.
Okay.
Hold on.
I want to color a picture of a duck.
Or...
Oh, this is a good idea.
Black and white picture of a duck with white spaces for me to color.
You should be able to ask it for a paint by numbers.
Well, here.
Let's just see if it can give me something to color.
Okay.
So, this is something I could see, like, a child using it for.
I also want to do...
I also want to do, like...
Oh, yeah.
Here we go.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sure.
That looks, like, perfect.
That one a little bit less so.
That one perfect.
Weird stuff going on with the foot there.
But, like, yeah, that's fine.
So, if I was just...
Well, I just mean, like, that's perfect for coloring.
Like...
Yeah, if I was just a kid and I was like...
Not even commenting on the fact that it has one giant foot.
One giant foot.
That's interesting.
Oh, it's not perfect for coloring.
I can't use the paint bucket.
Oh.
That's unfortunate.
I mean, you know, it's kind of...
Flawed.
It's kind of got some...
That art style is kind of neat, though, actually.
Yeah, it's cute.
Man, yeah, that's very frustrating.
Some of those zones are real small.
Anyway, there's the duck.
Okay, I...
Paid by numbers?
I am...
A picture of a tech YouTuber background set with RGB lights.
There.
You know, so if you were looking for some inspiration...
Why did I leave it on anime?
I don't even know what I'm...
I don't even really know what I'm trying to do with the styles here.
Maybe that's why the eyes of the duck look that way.
Oh, that would explain it.
Tech YouTuber background set.
Wow, that would be expensive.
I mean, no, you just...
Ooh, a tech YouTuber.
You just do it in green screen.
Wow, look at the veins on this hand.
Wow.
Ooh, what is this?
The fingers.
Yeah, the fingers are really weird.
You'd think they, like, you know, would just kind of hard code that fingers can't look like that at some point.
Like, okay, yeah, these are the rules of how knuckles...
They're more interested in advancement at this point.
Yeah, that's fair.
I think people aren't spending as much time refining and they're just trying to move forward.
I mean, these are not that bad.
There's definitely some inspiration here, if nothing else.
They're all kind of samey, which is sort of a bummer.
Blue and red, hey?
Interesting that the background matches the WAN show.
Nice.
All right.
Last one.
Last one for me.
And then if you want to do one more, we still can.
Takes a little while.
I get it.
Okay.
That's kind of a cool vibe.
That's pretty cool, actually.
What is on the wall?
What is it trying to do?
There's a camera there in the upper right.
No, no, no, no.
Oh, okay.
I think these are supposed to be like wall-mounted computers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, you know, obviously a speaker, a joystick.
Like, what is this thing?
I don't know.
That might just be a figurine.
Look at this keyboard.
That is scuffed.
Whoa.
Whoa.
There's keys on like the front of it.
Yeah.
Wow.
All right.
Cool.
What else we got here?
Man.
I kind of like this speakers embedded in walls thing that it's got going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These, you know what?
Some of these really do immediately give me product ideas.
Yeah.
Like just a little RGB dot that you just like put somewhere.
And it's just cute and it just glows.
Like that's kind of awesome, actually.
Just make it so the battery lasts a long time.
Yeah.
Or you can plug it in or use a battery or whatever.
I don't know.
I don't know exactly what's going on up here.
But boy, is it ever something.
And I mean, I think at this stage, this is realistically more along the lines of what
you're going to be able to use an AI image generator for.
Oh, man.
They're doing close up macro inspection of one of their systems while they listen to
embedded wall speakers.
Just pour on it.
This embedded wall speaker thing.
They're pretty sick.
That's weird.
They're actually cool.
Yeah.
I kind of, you know, unironically, I like the design of this mic.
It's kind of cool.
Yeah.
I don't know exactly how it works.
That stand would like never hold that.
Look at this mouse.
It's got the track ball, or I think.
I'm not sure.
Keyboards are all mangled.
I never realized how hard of a time it would have with keyboards.
Yeah.
It kind of makes sense.
Do you want to ask it to just do a keyboard?
We could probably do this all night.
We can move on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's okay.
You know what?
Yes, I do.
All right.
I do want to do that.
Co-creator.
What kind of keyboard would you like?
I feel like I want to give it something that I'll actually be able to do.
I'll just say a mechanical, 10-keyless mechanical desktop keyboard.
Mechanical keyboard, not desktop.
Just mechanical keyboard.
How the heck do you spell 10-keyless?
It's just 10.
I'm just going to put T-K-L.
Key-less.
Yeah, but is it one word?
Yeah.
Are you sure?
That doesn't seem right.
I think so.
I could be wrong.
Okay.
A desktop keyboard for gamers?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
What does a keyboard for gamers look like, according to Dolly?
And yes, it's one word.
Cool.
Photorealistic?
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool.
It's working on it.
Yeah.
Oh!
Wow, these characters, though.
I mean, I guess it makes sense.
They would just make their own language.
Why would their language need to be understandable by humans?
Yeah, but Dolly's supposed to be able to do...
Other more different fishhook.
...proper characters now.
I'm actually surprised it didn't.
There's some weird extra keys at the bottom left there.
Prove they weren't intentional.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Ooh.
This alphabet looks like my kids drew it.
The, like, depth on those keys is pretty random.
Wow.
These are kind of cool keycaps.
Assuming that they're not...
They're just random-sized keys, though.
So long that they don't move down.
No legend, though.
You know, hardcore mode.
Yeah.
Dan, you're into it, right?
Sorry?
No legend.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Yeah, a bunch of people are saying,
I don't know if it used the last model.
I highly suspect this is a previous version of Dolly.
There was a number of things there that it did very poorly
that I have absolutely seen the newer version do a lot better.
Looks like Dolly 2.
Yeah, it kind of feels like it.
The hands on modern Dolly are way better.
And modern Dolly can do text properly
without making up, like, alien language.
Got it.
So, yeah.
But, I mean, it's free in paint, so...
Yeah, well, it's free until you run out of tokens, I guess,
but, yeah, it's free for a bit.
Oh, are the tokens daily or all-time?
I'm not sure.
But what I do know...
Don't know.
...is that we've got a few merch things to talk about
that I kind of put off for a bit
because we spent so much of the show talking about merch.
More merch things.
The Retro Driver is now available.
Technically, I think it was available a week ago,
but we actually never formally were like,
yeah, it's available.
Oh.
So, it's a fun retro gaming or Frieza-themed color.
Also, our Philips and Torx bit sets are back in stock.
Oh, that explains why we sold so many bit sets that day.
We're also launching an upgraded magnetic chest strap
for the backpack.
Hmm.
I think it's...
Yeah.
Okay.
These are super cool.
So, yeah.
I think you've shown me one of these before.
I don't remember how it works.
Not down there, Luke.
I didn't realize it was on my screen.
So, it slides like that.
Nice and easy.
Oh, yeah.
It kind of grabs itself,
so you don't have to like...
I'm going to not look.
Uh, there we go.
You don't have to slide it at all
when you put it together.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Isn't that cool?
It totally just grabs.
But try to rip it apart.
Yeah, that's not going to work.
I've seen these before.
Super cool.
So, these are from Fidlock.
They are not...
But it's very easy.
Yeah.
This way.
Because it's supposed to be.
But side to side,
it just is not going to happen.
They are not cheap.
They are $19.99.
Uh, it just goes in
as a drop-in replacement
for the stock chest strap,
which just has a more traditional...
I don't even know what to call it.
Like, the kind of anchor-looking thing
that goes into the other thing.
It's a buckle.
Uh, yeah, sure.
Yeah, more traditional buckle.
And, um...
It's really cool.
We just saw these things
and we were like,
oh, these are amazing.
I have some...
People are already like,
make a belt with it.
That is actually
where we went first.
It didn't make sense.
It's too bulky
and, like,
getting it through the loops
is kind of a pain in the butt.
Right.
And we hadn't worked
on our own pants yet.
We could have made our pants
Fidlock belt compatible,
but then, like,
okay, what are we creating?
Like, a walled garden ecosystem
of clothing
that only works with each other?
Yeah, it just didn't really
make any sense.
Do you want to buy this belt?
Do you already own LTT pants?
No?
Then forget it.
Can't buy it.
It doesn't pair properly.
We would like
some community feedback.
A substantial number
of the hoodies
that we ordered for LTX
ended up with logos
that were crooked
and didn't meet our standards.
We are hoping
to repurpose these hoodies
by covering the LTX logo
that's on them
and crooked
with something else.
One of the ideas
was an updated version
of our iconic
WAN couch.
There's not really
a couch in it anymore,
but that's okay.
That's a minor detail.
That's what it looks like.
Actually, I think it's super cool.
It looks pretty cool.
We both have beards now.
Yeah.
And we have an ugly
stretched out
It looks terrible.
Hexagon wall.
But hey,
is it true to real life?
Yes.
Yes.
I don't make the rules.
Here's a mock-up
of what it would look like
on a Riley.
Maybe, like,
slightly different
and less cheaply
photoshopped than that,
but yeah,
basically that.
So let us know, guys,
if you'd be interested
in something like that,
I think we only have
a few hundred of them,
but...
People are saying bread.
Bread?
Really?
I bet if you just
put a bread there,
it would totally work.
I mean,
they're just patches.
Like,
we can get different patches,
I guess.
We could just have
multiple different patches.
Don't tell people
that you can do that.
Don't tell people
that you can get
different patches.
I mean,
it's too late.
Convoy says
VTuber girls.
Yeah,
we should throw
Lena and Lucy at it.
There you go.
Why do we even do this?
Fine,
stop hating money.
Why do we even
talk to you?
Actually,
you guys are...
Nice.
The chat's just bread.
What?
Make the spot Velcro
and sell the patches
on the store.
I hate that
that's the smartest
thing I've ever heard.
That's a pretty
interesting idea.
The modular tie-dye shirt.
Please do that.
Imagine you came
to one of the Whale Lands.
So we have
clothing DLC.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Yeah.
The DLC sweater?
You could...
Oh my God.
The patch
could be
the same
but could go
on multiple products.
So you could put
the patch
on your backpack.
All right.
Linus,
send that email.
Come on.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's actually
pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.
I like that a lot.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Well,
do a merch message
or something.
People like it.
Yeah,
I know.
It's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool.
That's sweet.
All right.
Okay.
I'll give it to you
and we'll do the bread
just to thank you
for the cool idea.
Got him.
Thank you,
floodplain chat.
Patches bonus bin?
Yeah,
maybe.
I don't know
how much a patch
costs.
I have no idea.
Okay.
Jeez.
Yeah,
you can even make
the Velcro
in a logo
or pattern
so that it looks
good without
a patch.
You could do
the LTT logo
in Velcro.
Probably.
With the stitching
and stuff like that.
That might actually
not be that easy.
That sounds really hard.
Yeah,
because you have
to sew on
the Velcro.
Oh,
it's going to need
to be just
a patch
probably,
but we'll,
you know.
Could you do
different colors
of the Velcro?
So could it be
like a square
but be,
have orange LTT
in the middle?
Have you ever heard
the term scope creep?
Oh,
can the Velcro
have a dark mode?
here,
while Linus
sends that email,
I got one for you,
Luke,
before you come over
here and strangle me.
Hello,
lads.
Love the content
and got into
IT because of LTT.
Nice.
If you guys
had to completely
rebuild your technical
infrastructure from scratch,
what would you do
differently?
This question
changes a lot
if you say
like with the
information we had
at the time
or not
because honestly
I stand by
the technical
decisions that we
made,
but if I could
have been
completely
clairvoyant,
I would have
moved to
TypeScript
and React
a little bit
sooner
and would
absolutely
not have
hitched my
horse to
sales.
That's the
biggest one,
but sales
looked really
promising at the
time and
like a lot
of these
language
or framework
or platform
or whatever
decisions that
you end up
making.
You just
kind of
got to go
off what
you have
and when
a lot
of these
things are
maintained
by
companies
in the
case of
some of
them
where like
it's
maybe
it's
Facebook
maintaining
the
language.
Maybe
Facebook
just
decides
we don't
want
this
thing
anymore.
Who
cares?
And
then
they'll
just
dump
it
and
then
it's
not
going
to
be
supported
for
you
anymore
or
it's
a
completely
open
source
thing
and
the
maintainer
might
just
disappear.
Yeah,
you could
pick up
that torch
but
now
you're
doing
a
wild
amount
more
work
than
you
originally
intended
to
because
your
goal
was
to
make
this
thing
on
top
of
it
not
it
and
now
you're
doing
both
you
might
not
have
enough
time
for
that
you
might
not
have
enough
budget
for
that
to
bring
in
more
developers
and
stuff
so
it
is
what
it
is
you
gonna
make
some
mistakes
sometimes
that's
how
it
goes
I
got
something
good
for
you
dealerships
can't
shift
EVs
around
4,000
American
auto
dealerships
have
signed
an
open
letter
asking
the
federal
government
to
moderate
its
EV
adoption
targets
because
they
are
struggling
to
offload
an
excess
supply
of
electric
vehicles
despite
EV
sales
hitting
record
highs
they
currently
have
over
a
90
day
supply
of
EVs
only
a
30
day
supply
of
internal
combustion
engine
vehicles
and
a
mere
two
weeks
supply
of
hybrid
electric
vehicles
Tesla
leading
seller
of
EVs
is
not
included
in
these
numbers
due
to
its
direct
to
consumer
model
there's
a bunch
of other
stuff
in here
but
my
point
is
I
was
right
Chevy
Volt
dude
yeah
the
hybrid
electric
I
want
a
hybrid
electric
Acura
TL
I
would
be
so
happy
back
when
I
bought
the
Volt
the
only
reason
I
bought
it
was
that
the
traditional
car
companies
Honda
do you
know
how many
Honda
clarities
they
allegedly
this is
just
based
on
hearsay
from
a
random
Honda
dealer
so I
don't
know
if
it's
accurate
or
not
but
apparently
it
was
like
less
than
20
clarities
I
thought
it
was
like
four
entire
model
year
and I
think
it
was
a
lot
less
than
that
but
I
am
going
higher
than
what
I
recall
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
greater
chance
that
it's
right
yeah
it
was
like
nothing
I've
seen
like
two
on
the
road
ever
it
was
it
was
the
car
I
wanted
to
buy
because
it
has
the
advantages
of
EV
I
get
to
drive
in
the
HOV
lane
I
get
to
not
burn
gas
on
my
daily
commute
and
it
has
the
advantages
of
a
gasoline
car
in
that
I
can
go
long
distances
and
quickly
refuel
without
having to
worry
about
finding
public
charging
infrastructure
it
was
so
obvious
but
only
because
I
happened
to be
a
tech
nerd
and
did
a
whole
bunch
of
research
into
it
and
I
am
pragmatic
to
a
fault
most
people
that
I
know
that
know
of
like
good
hybrids
like
the
Volt
or
sorry
most
people
that
I
know
don't
know
about
good
hybrids
like
the
Volt
yeah
and
the
problem
is
that
the
dealers
apparently
just
had
no
idea
what
was
going
on
and
people
didn't
understand
it
I
remember
talking
to
this
other
guy
at
a
dealer
who
was
sitting
here
going
are
you
kidding
me
just
you
don't
it
doesn't
even
have
to
be
in
your
garage
you
could
just
run
extension
cord
it
comes
with
a
charger
that
just
plugs
into
the
wall
there's
literally
no
reason
in
BC
Canada
there
is
no
reason
not
to
use
the
cheap
cheap
electric
power
that we
have
yeah
it's
like
the
only
thing
we
have
and
it's
like
Toyota
figured
it
out
sucked
the
first
couple
generations
I
shouldn't
say
it
sucked
but
the
range
was
not
enough
not
enough
for
my
daily
commute
not
enough
for
a
lot
of
people's
and
so
you'd
have
to
put
gas
in
it
on
a
very
regular
basis
I
believe
the
latest
model
has
way
better
all
electric
range
and
the
RAV4
prime
is
killing
it
I
have
no
idea
how
long
the
wait
list
is
for
that
thing
now
but
it
was
just
everyone
was
going
oh
the
problem
with
gas
is
you
know
this
it's
just
gas
emissions
now
and
forever
and
gas
is
super
expensive
and
blah
blah
blah
and
the
problem
with
all
electric
is
the
range
and
these
batteries
that are
so
costly
and
environmentally
devastating
to
extract
from
the
earth
if
only
there
was
some
solution
but
there
isn't
and
it
was
staring
them
in
a
person
but
a
person
123
on
float
plane
said
the
big
problem
with
plug
in
hybrids
is
you
have
the
cost
and
weight
of
both
drivetrains
not
really
my
not
quite
because
you
also
don't
have
the
weight
of
all
those
batteries
and
you
also
don't
need
the
same
kind
of
chutzpah
in
your
ice
drivetrain
right
and
you're
not
running
it
because
that's
the
thing
like
the
volt
for
all
of
its
being
generally
a
very
boring
dad
car
actually
not
that
bad
right
off
the
line
because
it
uses
the
battery
it
uses
the
electric
motors
and
the
volt
is
a
weird
one
because
it's
technically
an
EV
with
an
onboard
gasoline
generator
yeah
right
but like
at the
end
of the
day
I
sort
of
don't
really
care
how
you
do
it
as
a
consumer
very
efficient
you're
talking
about
the
weight
they
can
be
crazy
efficient
even
if
you
are
peak
dumb
and
never
plug
in
your
volt
it
is
a
crazy
efficient
gasoline
car
yeah
it's
just
way
too
expensive
because
you
paid
for
a
bunch
of
batteries
that
you're
not
using
because
you're
a
big
dumb
dumb
that
was
dumb
but
the
plug
in
hybrid
Prius
is
crazy
efficient
the
plug
in
hybrid
volts
crazy
efficient
I'm
not
worried
about
the
extra
weight
yeah
and
man
I
remember
talking
about
this
back
when
we
were
going
into
the
pandemic
GM
cancelled
the
volt
at
the
worst
possible
time
they
would
have
sold
so
many
volts
because
the
big
problem
with
it
was
that
it
was
expensive
with
a
value
proposition
that
was
difficult
for
people
to
understand
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
cars
were
just
generally
more
expensive
so
they
could
have
made
margin
on
it
and
gasoline
went
through
the
roof
and
it's
like
oh
whoops
they
would
have
sold
thousands
and
thousands
of
them
GM
hates
money
says
William
Co
Martin
yeah
I
know
right
it's
like
they
try
to
make
the
worst
possible
decisions
I
just
don't
know
how to
deal
with
it
I
got
to
be
clear
I'm
not
like
a
fan
or
anything
I
sense
it
just
made
so
much
sense
and
it's
it's
validating
I guess
to see
everyone
going
well
this
makes
sense
yeah
that's
why
they
only
have
two
weeks
of
stock
of
hybrid
electric
vehicles
because
they're
so
awesome
they're
a
great
middle
ground
yeah
people
are
not
into
GM
and
their
decisions
in
general
I
am
into
plug-in
hybrids
though
I
would
like
to
eventually
have
one
that's
the
only
thing
I
feel
like
I'm
lacking
with
my
car
literally
love
my
volt
so
much
that
after
I
replaced
it
I
bought
it
from
myself
seriously
the
car
the
company
owns
it
now
and
we
just
use
it
to
run
little
errands
which
makes
a ton
of
sense
perfect
for
that
because
again
the
plug-in
hybrid
it's
going
to be
borderline
free
to drive
back
and
forth
between
the
office
buildings
it's
going
borderline
free
to run
into
town
and grab
something
and come
back
and then
if it
needs to
run
really
far
then it
can
no
problem
we have
to go
pick up
a CRT
in the
interior
of BC
because we
don't want
to ship
it for
whatever
send it
no problem
super efficient
comfortable
easy going
that
car made
no sense
on
transformers
like the
movie
what
the
volt
was in
transformers
I believe
so
okay
that
really
why
chevy
volt
transformers
that is
not how
I might
have
promoted
it
super
car
no
oh
I can't
afford
that
jolt
this
was
a
huge
problem
for
chevy
they had
the
bolt
which
was
like
an
entry
level
ev
they
had
the
volt
which
was
a
completely
different
car
plug-in
hybrid
vehicle
and
now
I'm
only
just
learning
about
this
they
had
jolt
a
character
from
transformers
that
is
a
volt
are
you
kidding
me
that's
really
stupid
it also
looks
really
stupid
like
the
transformer
looks
dumb
ah
I'm
sad
now
very
sad
they
like
Nintendo
Wii U'd
this
car
like
what
looks
like
Bumblebee
but
dumber
yeah
I
thought
that
like
Bumblebee
is
dumb
cousin
blue
thing
under
him
was
like
his
beard
they're
flying
electric
vehicle
called
the
molt
yeah
like
exactly
that's
what
it's
really
close
to
Moltres
I
started
playing
Pokemon
Go
recently
makes
me
so
sad
I
want
to
go
and
get
my
colt
sorry
you're
not
playing
Final
Fantasy
6
I'm
ahead
in
the
challenge
is
that
no
yeah
so
I'm
still
like
mildly
sick
so
I haven't
been able
to go
to the
gym
so
I haven't
been able
to play
video games
I'm
getting
really
antsy
so
I
wanted
something
to do
and
that
that
old
game
I don't
remember
the name
of it
right
now
but
the
game
that
I
was
playing
to
go
out
for
walks
for
a while
there
yeah
I like
leveled
out
I got
to the
point
where
it's
better
to just
sit at
home
and I'm
like
that's
stupid
so I
stopped
playing
that
game
so I
started
playing
Pokemon Go
again
and there's
all these
actually
cool
things
what I
wanted
the
other
game
to do
Pokemon Go
has been
doing
this
whole
time
I
just
kind
of
forgot
it
existed
it has
like a
feature
now
called
routes
oh yeah
there'll
be like
a trail
and it'll
show you
how to
get to
the trail
and if
you walk
the whole
trail
it gives
you a
bonus
at the
end
that's
cool
it's
great
it's
cool
oh
float plane
chat
GM
is
dolts
it was
called
dolts
it was
called
Orna
yeah
so Orna
was cool
until you
leveled too
far and then
it sucked
but hopefully
they fixed
it I don't
know I haven't
played in
forever
hey how's
Final Fantasy
6 going
terrible
so yeah
my developers
were here and
stuff I
didn't have
any time
so you
haven't
even
I spend
the whole
time
hanging
out
with
tank
pots
the fight
in the
snow
no I'm
still
pending
alright
well hopefully
you remember
how to
play
yeah
I mean
I think
you'll be
alright
yeah
police
warn about
name
dropping
Apple's
feature
name
drop
apparently
both users
must agree
for any
information
transfer
to take
place
between
the
phones
but
the
phone
if it
is
within
an inch
or two
of another
and both
phones
are
unlocked
something
something
potential
threat
to
children
they
may
not
okay
I
don't
really
I don't
really
understand
exactly
what the
problem
is with
this
seems
fine
okay
cool
EA
patents
self
insert
character
voices
what
why would
you want
to do
that
well this
is
this
is
the
ethical
version
of
AI
voices
in
your
games
you
record
your
own
voice
and
then
it
trains
the
model
interesting
based
on the
filing
the
system
would
likely
use a
sample
of
the
player's
speech
in order
to
recreate
it
during
dialogue
and
perhaps
allow
them
to
speak
directly
to
the
game's
characters
depending
on the
nature
of the
game
EA
appears
to be
attempting
to patent
the
technical
aspects
of the
system
rather
than
the
concept
in
and of
itself
that's
kind
of
cute
actually
that's
an
interesting
idea
being able
to talk
directly
is a
very
interesting
idea
that
feels
like
a
future
step
of
gaming
have
we
talked
about
Calios
someone
in
flow plane
chat
said
police
blew
it
up
and
then
people
pointed
out
that
they
were
missing
half
the
facts
that's
a
yikes
so
yeah
you
you
you
lightly
mentioned
it
I
think
two
shows
ago
okay
okay
so
in
response
to
our
original
call
out
to
our
to
confirm
the
rumors
that
Calios
was
going
to
finally
offer
a
full
refund
to
its
original
crowdfunding
members
sent
us
a
September
19th
post
from
Calios
to
backers
in
the
post
Calios
acknowledges
that
the
product
that
resulted
from
the
campaign
that
though
it
exceeded
its
promises
did
so
late
and
at
a
significantly
higher
price
point
they
eventually
built
it's
really
good
you
guys
but
it's
late
and
at
a
much
higher
price
point
even
if
that
price
point
would
have
been
a
more
realistic
target
for
low
volume
premium
products
that's
something
something
something
anyway
the point
is
it's
late
and
it's
way
more
expensive
but
it
is
better
that's
what
they're
saying
sorry
about
that
and
any
backers
who
backed
the
original
worst
cheaper
version
can get
a
full
refund
or
the
option
of a
voucher
that can
be
used
to
buy
one
of
500
of
the
new
one
in
a
limited
copper
edition
at
a
1200
euro
price
if
the
backer
does
not
want
to
buy
the
limited
edition
one
it
will
instead
be
made
available
for
general
purchase
and
the
proceeds
will
be
used
to
refund
backers
so
this
is
a
quote
we
will
ensure
that
every
backer
who
requested
a
refund
gets
it
and
while
the
mechanism
is
formally
tied
to
units
being
sold
for
regulatory
and
accounting
requirements
the
refund
will
be
honored
regardless
of
your
allocated
unit
will
be
considered
as
a
refund
request
quote
some
might
argue
that
this
should
have
been
the
option
from
day
one
but
there
have
been
many
factors
at
play
and
without
many
business
compromises
especially
from
Streecom
this
was
simply
not
a
viable
option
for
us
until
now
so
the
discussion
question
here
is
would
LTT
now
consider
covering
Calios
is
this
later
better
than
never
yes
I
think
so
I
want
to
hear
from
a
backer
who
requested
a
refund
who
got
money
and
then
you
know
what
I
won't
even
ask
for
a
review
sample
I'll
buy
one
then
I
will
buy
one
and
review
it
that's
my
deal
I'm
not
asking
for
any
handouts
or
anything
I
just
really
love
this
kind
of
technology
I
want
to
cover
it
and
if
they
are
going
to
move
forward
in
good
faith
to
I
said
that
I
would
give
it
when
I
demanded
that
they
make
that
option
available
well
I
think
that
if
they're
willing
to
move
forward
in
good
faith
then
I
should
make
sure
that
I'm
not
putting
any
additional
burden
on
them
and
I
think
we
should
cover
it
so
I'll
buy
one
of
those
copper
limited
edition
ones
or
whatever
as
long
as
I
actually
hear
from
someone
with
proof
that
that's
the
same
way
as
last
time
how
did
we
do
that
I
don't
remember
but
linus
tech
tips
dot
com
linus
tech
tips
at
gmail
dot
com
I
think
is
our
public
inbox
still
the
previous
person
that
got
in
touch
with
us
was
through
the
forum
oh
how'd
they
who'd
they
contact
I
don't
even
know
I
don't
actually
remember
how it
worked
I
helped
it
go with
the
public
facing
inbox
the
one
that's
on
the
main
LTT
channel
yeah
have
you
heard
about
this
do
you
know
about
this
this
next
one
oh
I
went
to
the
discovery
one
yeah
I
actually
don't
think
this
other
one's
that
interesting
I
outlet
Quasar
zone
yeah
claims
that
they
have
managed
to
run
Nvidia's
frame
generation
and
AMD's
fluid
motion
frame
technology
simultaneously
although
they
showed
the
benchmark
results
but
no
footage
and
probably
for
good
reason
this
resulted
in
an
average
boost
of
up
to
three
times
the
frame
rate
as
gaming
at
native
resolution
in
4k
and
ultra
settings
Quasar
zone
plugged
in
an
RTX
4090
and
an
RX
6600
into
C
installed
both
their
drivers
then
hooked
up
the
primary
display
to
the
6600
while
the
4090
was set
to the
primary
GPU
in
Windows
so that
the
4090's
post-frame
gen
output
passed
through
the
6600
while
the
average
was
good
the
1%
lows
either
barely
increased
or even
decreased
for most
games
it also
increased
artifacting
and input
lag
and I
suspect
by a
rather
significant
amount
discussion
question
this is a
terrible
idea
should
we
do
it
I
don't
know
I
it's
gotta
be
rough
this
reminds
me
of
the
time
that
we
ran
SLI
and
crossfire
in the
same
computer
at the
same
time
that
was
so
frustrating
it
made
me
angry
for
a
not
insignificant
period
of
time
it
was
really
awful
it
looked
cool
it
looked
super
cool
and
honestly
people
didn't
even
think
it
was
that
interesting
of
a
video
like
I
there
was
a lot
of
feedback
on
that
video
and
around
that
time
that
we've
jumped
the
shark
and
lost
touch
and
it's
like
well
that's
not
why
we
did
it
because
we
thought
it
was
a good
idea
we
just
thought
it was
wild
cool
I
thought
it
was
cool
but
it's
it's
tough
right
because
it's
always
cool
it's
always
a fine
balance
right
like
if we
if we
do
nothing
but
practical
content
about
how
you
can
build
an
affordable
computer
people
will
tune
out
because
they're
bored
and
if
we
do
you
know
out
there
like
spectacle
content
people
will
users
libraries
that's
right
PlayStation
Sony
posted
a
legal
notice
stating
that
the
content
made
by
the
discovery
channel
that
users
purchased
through
them
would
no longer
be
available
to
view
after
the
end
of
this
year
this
content
will
not
just
be
removed
from
the
service
it
will
be
removed
from
paying
customers
libraries
this
is
apparently
wow
a
licensing
issue
related
to
discovery's
recent
merger
with
warner
brothers
and
our
discussion
question
here
is
do
we
own
anything
we
buy
online
and
the
answer
is
no
no
have
offline
copies
or
you
have
nothing
and
have
this
message
from
dbrand
or
you
have
no
wanshow
after
dark
that's
right
we've
got a
sponsor
for
wanshow
after
dark
which
dan
is
working
on
oh
oh
oh
that's
cute
hey
it has
a whole
dbrand
skin
on the
on the
lower
banner
yeah
uh
oh
wow
look at
that
of
course
it's
the new
x-ray
skins
that
they
you
eat
them
okay
that was
worth the
work that
we put
into it
i'm sure
they
launched
these
as part
of the
line
of
subsists
entirely
new
x-ray
purchases
i do
not
zach
from
jerry
bring
everything
and you
guys
are gonna
make
money
on
these
i mean
i guess
you gave
some of
it to
me
obviously
buy
x-ray
or we
stop
paying
for
this
spot
it's
very
honest
you
got
you
gotta give
them
credit
for
the
honesty
man
yeah
that's
legit
so i
guess
i'm
now
i'm
now
obligated
by
my
responsibility
to
our
shareholders
to
tell
you
that
you
need
to
buy
x-ray
yeah
or
else
we
will
not
make
money
wow
buy
the
real
one
yeah
anyway
uh
that's
great
so
x-ray
is
the
line
of
skins
that
they
launched
to
showcase
to
what
innovation
actually
looks
like
or
what
was
it
originality
or
what
originality
actually
looks
like
that's
the
word
that
case
if
I
used
all
right
i guess
it's
merch
message
time
then
i guess
so
i guess
we'll
actually
talk
about
merch
hold on
slow
plane
chat
the skins
are
not
edible
calm
down
you
guys
don't
should we
uh
should we
check with
dbrand if
they want
to just
do
i don't
know how
many we
would sell
like maybe
even just a
few hundred
maybe we
could just
do like
i don't know
the latest
iphone and
the latest
like s
whatever from
samsung but
just like a
float plane logo
skin or
something like
that you know
maybe not even
a skin maybe
just i love
how you would
do the
float plane logo
skin in a
phone that i
don't have
pixel okay
no no no okay
so we do we
do okay okay
look look i'm
trying to make
everyone happy
here okay you
know what forget
it it's probably
going to be too
much work for
those guys
anyway to
support it
because we
probably wouldn't
sell more than
like a couple
hundred i'm
assuming they
need pretty
crazy quantities
for their
types of runs
it's surprising
how much
development it
takes to
make a
sticker and
the funny thing
is like we
know i was
reading the blog
post about um
the series
x white
edition um
where microsoft
kind of wrote
up this thing
about how
changing the
color was super
non-trivial
because uh
there and
this is all
stuff that we
know from
remember how it
took so long
for us to
launch new
color oh my
god that would
actually probably
no that would
be we'd sell
dozens anyway
oh i don't know
okay back to
the uh back to
the mic oh
yeah the back
to the xbox
thing um we
learned this when
we were changing
the color of the
screwdriver it's
not simple
they went and
they shot it in
the different
color plastic and
realized they had
all these swirls
they had these
marks that were
not visible in
black where the
uh where the
plastic was
flowing and it
was like the
most nightmarish
tiny upgrade
ever yeah and
i think that's
something that
people often
don't appreciate
whether it's a
sticker or
whether it's a
different color of
plastic or
whether it's uh
whether it's uh
a sound
making a product
is easy
making a product
at scale is
hard making a
good product at
scale where you
actually care that's
really really hard and
it kind of doesn't
matter what it is
if if you care
enough you'll find a
way to make it
hard because if it
was easy somebody
else would already be
doing it which is
what i always tell my
kids anyway dan
hit me
sure sure sure um
let's have a look
here lld any
updates on the
upcoming laptop
messenger bag now
that i'm starting to
game on my lunch
breaks i'd like
something not as
big as the
legendary ltd
backpack
i'm checking i
have my my
update uh email
from nick i don't
see anything about
it in there but i i
think we're i
think it's i think
development is done
and we're just
waiting on finalizing
our initial order
quantities it's
gonna be awesome
honestly i gotta
tell you i know
what my rules are
but i'm tempted to
just offer it as a
pre-sale because i
know it's really
good it's based on
the same dna as
the backpack um
and it would help
us a lot in terms
of figuring out what
our order quantities
should be yeah w
calderini says it's
money from me yeah i
know i know a lot of
people are waiting for
it but i don't know
if a lot is a
thousand or ten
thousand or a
hundred thousand i
have no idea you
should do you
should like what
justifies it a
review
justifies it what
like what makes it
okay well the line we
drew in the sand
before was it's not a
pre-order it's a
back order because it
had been available to
real individual retail
customers who were
given an opportunity to
use it and review it
would the timeline line
up with one of the
lands no probably
not oh damn yeah
like if we just go
mass production then
well we have to
commit now like we
have to decide right
now essentially so in
order for us to to do
any kind of um no we
didn't pre-sell the
screwdriver we
back ordered the
screwdriver we sold
some screwdrivers and
then it was a while
before we were going to
have stock and we
took back orders quite a
few screwdrivers yeah
yeah it's a lot of
screwdrivers um and
like it seems fair do
that again yeah it's
really hard it is it
adds a ton of overhead
if it's not something
where we're sure we're
going to sell tens of
thousands of units it
just doesn't make any
sense we might as well
just order fewer of
them and if it sells out
it sells out more or
some more um so it's
it's it's tough people
are saying no pre-order
and it's like yeah i
know but you also don't
have to order it we we
do have the trust me
grow the trust me grow
the trust me bro guarantee
would it make you feel
better problem we'll deal
with it would it make
you feel better if
there's like a little
banner being like don't
know no one has been
able to order this yet
no one has been able to
review this yet we
always recommend against
pre-ordering yeah but
like you can if you want
i guess it's like super
chats we don't stop you
from doing super chats
yeah we just tell you to
do merch some people are
super mad about that why
i don't know because it's
hypocritical or because
it's because i don't know
they find a way to make
it evil because i will
allow people to throw
money at the screen even
though i advise them not
to it's like why it's a
free country send throw
money at the screen if you
want to i can't stop you
i make it really clear how
to interact with the show
it ain't super chats yeah
um there's no obligation
to like respond to or deal
with super chats even if
that's the only one that
you have yeah i don't know
i'll uh maybe maybe i'll
talk to maybe i'll talk
to the buys about it um
the buys this is great
uh the hammock guy i don't
think you should do it
because principles but i'll
pre-order one if you do it
and this is why micro
transactions exist yeah
what's the buy guys okay
that's a reference we were
uh we were uh this is also
during the upcoming amd
ultimate tech upgrade um
is this an elijah elijah and
i were doing something and
we were we were trying
something and we were we
were just kind of riff and
we were like yeah we're like
the try guys except there's
two of us so we're the buy
guys like oh wait wait so
you're gonna ask elijah to
do what you said i'll ask the
buy guys no no no the buys
like it's it's just like
eastern canadian boys oh
me and the buys wow yeah
all right it's going out for
a rip there bud sure me and
the buys you don't use any
canadian specific slang yeah
i know okay uh all right
cool anywho i got a two
four for you right here
linus yeah hey dll linus what
aspects of your company's
culture are you most proud of
developing or maintaining now
that you've built linus media
group into a 100 person
employee company it's hard for
me to say because the
view that i get about proud of
that just happens every day
world-class world-class pee on
the floor world-class maybe in
luke's water bottle prove it's not
i filled it myself everywhere i mean you
get yours all over yourself
what's happening um that's when
after why did i start this um it's
hard for me to tell because i never
see the same view that other people
see and i never wanted that to be
true i always wanted to be one of the
gang and just you know in the thick
of it and i i like working in the
trenches with everybody right but the
reality of it is that i see a very
different side of people than they see
of each other because whenever i'm
around the boss is watching and that's
as much as i don't want that to be the
case that that is how it is and and i
mean okay coming back to my felt that a
lot over the last few days unfortunately
that i was watching you no no no oh
like being mode and tone shifts when i
would get close yeah oh okay yeah all
right and like to be clear i get like i
get it going back to the thing with the
backpack earlier it's like when i see
something wrong instantly it's it's it's
not even it's not even a conscious
thought i'm like okay investigate and
fix and you know sometimes the thing
that's going wrong is what someone else
is doing right like and it's um and
it doesn't have to be in like an evil
or nasty way or anything but it is it
is something that i i'm very passionate
about that i obviously have a lot a lot
tied up in i have a lot riding on the
success of this company and you know i
want to i want to make sure that it
continues to be successful for myself
and obviously for the other people who
work here as who as far as i can tell
still want to work here and still want
it to exist right so it's um it's it's
tough and so i think you know a thing
that i'm really proud of is that people
are are able to give feedback without
fear of repercussions but it's possible
that some people do feel fear and that's
something that i i want us to never lose
track of continuing to try to improve so
um having
having scheduled times for people to get
feedback i mean going back to i think
was it the first year or the second
year that we started doing annual
reviews that i gave you guys the form
ahead of time and asked you to fill them
out for me as well should you should you
desire it was not the first year okay
because the first year's annual reviews
were like super weird yeah that was
really awkward it was it was probably one
of the most stark turning points from
bros in a garage to corporate that we
ever underwent it was also like in my
room yeah yeah
in luke's or as corporate as it can be
when it's in luke's basement suite that
is under the office that he rents from me
in the bedroom portion in the bedroom
okay in fairness why yeah why did you not
sleep in the proper bedroom of the suite i
forget well there wasn't one yeah well
okay it didn't have a window but it was
like kind of a bedroom like format when you
just came down the stairs that room so
that was all i had at the beginning
what because no we didn't meet there
though no you were in the you were in
the other side when we when we had our
first annual reviews i believe no could
be wrong am i was that the second one
then maybe oh wow did we really meet in
the little like the oh yeah dungeon room
hundred percent that's amazing that
definitely happened i remember that
meeting
oh no
i also remember the other one so that
must have been yeah year two yeah okay
because eventually i had the whole thing
but at the beginning i just had the like
little cubby basically that's amazing
anyway um yeah so so we we encourage we
encourage feedback um i think part of it
part of the challenge now is i um
don't say that i know i know i know
float plane chat
anyway
i think part of the problem now is that
i don't get to interact personally with
everyone and i don't get to build that
rapport
so it used to be that i think everyone
knew that they could give me honest
feedback they could tell me if they
didn't think my work was very good they
could tell me if they didn't think that
my assessment of their work was fair
um these days i don't i don't think so
but i think that
if there's if there's one thing that i
can still say it's that
uh we still try and we will we will
always continue to try and that's
something that i'm very proud of because
i think that's how we continue to get
better
i think it helps that a lot of the
people from back then are still around
so that mentality or the
how do i say this i feel like i'm
lacking the words
um the people who did it when we were
like small and agile and it wasn't that
hard to do it
can can testament to the fact that it was
done and it is a thing and it is still a
thing
if you know what i mean and i think that
helps the culture
might not completely solve that problem
because i don't think you can
and it helps but it's hard for those
people to even tell if it's helping
when now that's also happening in such a
position of power that they may not be
able to see everything
yeah yeah like there's always going to
be some insulation go on
yeah yeah and the more layers there are
the more insulated i am
and like i just i want to continue to try
to do things like okay all right we just
had our company christmas party this uh
this wednesday it's fun
uh yeah it was it was really good it was
weird it's always weird i think it's
always weird right it's always a little
weird yeah um but not in a bad way one
of we have a couple sort of main
principles for the christmas party one is
that it's not work it is not content um
yeah yeah two is that it needs to be
memorable
they're always memorable
always i have very distinct memories from
all of them some weird happens yeah and
not not in like uh you know like drugged
out or like in anything like that we we run
it kind of like a wedding party yeah that's
a really good reference actually yeah so
we'll play like games where everyone gets
up out of their chairs and goes and just
okay we played a game this year that
involved like uh like like flag capture
like like you you have a like a belt with
a with a tail um like what what what kind
of games are played like that like it's
just i think flag football is the best
reference but you weren't allowed like
running and stuff and then you had you
had people inside that had to steal the
flags yeah and you had to hand off the
flag to a designated hacker and the hacker
had to use codes that were on the flags to
like break into locks what i thought was
hilarious was the amount of people from my
team that were designated the hackers
because there's all like the developers
and stuff that were distributed amongst
all the tables so like half the hackers
were just people from my team which was
great i thought that was really funny
yeah the theme was uh the theme was this
year was sort of events that took place
so that game was obviously about the hack
um i don't know just and you know what
most of the time the games don't really
work out the way that we envisioned but
they're always this year was pretty
rampant with cheating on both games it
was like brutal but i mean whatever it's
just supposed to be fun right yes i don't
know yeah and i i like to think people
have we we uh we they were both very fun
we dress up yeah uh what what year did
that start was that the year that we did
the like was that the the 10 million
subscriber year i think that was one of
the years when i was banned well you
weren't banned you just weren't invited
i was not allowed that's the same as
banned
okay you can you can flavor that wording
as much as you want it's a little more
nuanced than what not that much it's a
little more pretty close it's a little
more
and i think that would be a much longer
conversation than we're going to be
having about it right now
speaking of people not being afraid to
speak speak their minds without fear
of retaliation
i've never been a problem yeah yeah
yeah maybe it should be more
i was the one that was banned
anywho uh we we started it is more
nuance than that i'm just trolling
very effectively anywho we uh we
started this costume thing and the
first year um we were like hey there's
going to be a theme and you should you
should dress up according to the theme
and we didn't say why they should do
that and so some people did did not
that many i think it's about 50 50 maybe
so the people that showed up higher
percentage now the people that well i
was getting to that but yeah the people
that showed up uh found out that there
was like a costume contest and there was
there was awards and you could get
tickets for having the most inventive or
having the most um complicated or i
forget i forget or the funniest or
whatever else and uh no one knew what
the tickets were for but we were giving
out tickets all night for participating in
the games and for for uh dressing
according to the theme of the party and
everything like that and then at the end
it turned out that the tickets were for
a raffle that had crazy crazy stuff in
it uh like just crazy and so overnight
from the first one to the second one we
went from tepid participation to near
100 percent no i think was it actually we
were over 100 participation this year
because even non-employees were dressed
according to the theme of the night
so i consider that over 100 participation
so a non-employee counts towards the
yeah that i think so yeah yeah i think
we're over 100 did you see did you see
what emma's was i thought it was
hilarious
i thought it was so funny i'm so sorry
she came late so it's not too surprising
but she had she wore one of my uh oh this
year the theme was the food groups yeah so
my my team was uh cereal um so she she
threw this together like super last
minute because she didn't know plus
ones were supposed to dress up because i
got the news of the theme while i was in
japan so i didn't even know plus ones
were supposed to were they it's not
supposed to but they were invited to
yeah okay cool um so she grabbed one of
my donut media merch shirts that has just
cans of beans on it because give it the
beans or whatever and she crossed out
with green painters tape all of the cans
except for two of them and then wore a
name tag that just said sam
actually so funny and i think i think
like almost nobody got it so it didn't
get like the credit that it deserved but
it was great it was so good it was so
cool seeing uh what some of the teams
put together riley was uh was a super
ethical farmer and then yeah yeah and
his team was really like the whole team
like the live animals yeah and then like
the product of the animals and then they
had a butcher um what was what was the
chef's name i forget i don't remember the
chef's name but he had a minecraft sword
yeah and and so like during the the during
the judging we had the plus ones do like
an applause-o-meter like judging thing
and uh riley would like bring the animals
to the butcher and he'd like kill them and
then they'd have the product i don't know
it was it was amazing yeah i love like
cohesive everybody has to be involved for
it to work well themes yeah those are
great super cool uh oh uh sweets a candy
candy was um a bunch of m&ms and then
david dressed up as a sugar daddy his
costume was amazing
i was having a really hard time with
cereal i couldn't figure out anything i i
kept leaning towards like do i run with
it too far and do like cereal killer but
i was like no
yeah it's almost too obvious yeah no i
thought this i thought the cereal team
did a great job and then i i liked what i
ended up coming up with i so joe and i
were making our costumes together yeah but
we went to go do it at my place and joe
needed to use like uh oil markers and uh
glue and stuff so we were like okay well
we can't do this because the birds so we
can't have fumes so we were sitting in the
lobby of my apartment oh my gosh making
the costumes and people kept walking by
while i'm like making cheerios out of
cardboard and he's drawing a ketchup label
on felt just some of the some of the looks
we got were amazing no one asked like why
are you doing this here no one asked
that question which was because it was
obvious because you can't do it somewhere
else clearly i mean no one would choose
to be there yeah anyway it was really it
was it was really fun it was a total
blast um massive shout out andy for being
our photographer i get to actually have
like good pictures of everything for a
change because yvonne and i are usually
just like running around like chickens with
our heads cut off and like we don't
really get to process any of it um so i'm
i'm excited to look back at the pictures
and we've for once remembered to take a
group photo i forget who was like wait
wait wait what about a group photo like
after i'd been like okay thanks everyone
good night drive safe yeah we've missed a
few of those yeah we we have so few group
pictures as a company yeah i i wish we
actually like a weird amount the few that
exist like remember that that silly one we
took where we all piled on the couch
before we moved into the new office like
that's an amazing photo i wish we had
more of that yeah you know we just we were
so busy doing it we forgot that we might
want to look back at it someday that is a
very legendary photo though i'm doing i'm
happy we have at least that one it makes
up for quite a lot yeah that was uh that
was before anyone had left yeah so at
least you know we at least we have that
yeah you know there was no one that we
like missed getting a group picture with
in those days
one person left there was one no you don't
mean the intern
nope there was one person that was fired
oh i don't count that yeah okay okay
anywho what do you got hi dll i'm a
construction equipment operator from
pennsylvania what's your take on tech in
construction like autonomous equipment
off-site control trucks that shut down
automatically or gps farming gps farming
super cool yes
this is the wavelength why are you so
passionate about that both of you super
cool well yeah but i mean you jumped on
that immediately well yeah but it's also
it's it's it's basically depending on
what you're trying to do it's it's
basically a robo vacuum i mean yeah so
like awesome the things that could go
wrong compared to autonomous equipment in
like construction this is the exact
thought i was having yeah autonomous
equipment in construction sounds
terrifying it's just a plow off-site
control just plow sounds like you're
missing a lot of sensory information for
safety reasons trucks that shut down
automatically sounds really bad like i i
don't know about you but i want actual
humans operating the heavy machinery for
better or for worse i want trained
actual humans for now but gps farming
yeah cool is sick all right
hey wan.dlo and greetings from europe
linus will you get your hands on the
ionio with mini led and how do you see
mini led compared to oled um i actually
wasn't aware of it yet i am super happy
with
i love the rg ally and i love the steam deck
oled and i'm not sure which one to play
octopath traveler on i i started it and
i'm actually not really enjoying it
though i i got to the first like boss
fight in the first scenario got my ass
absolutely handed to me in a way that i
just don't i didn't even really
understand it felt which came against
completely unfair octopath traveler oh
yeah um and yeah maybe yeah maybe it's
maybe it's pebcat maybe it's user error
uh it's beautiful it's beautiful but also
it's just it's just felt kind of like
shallow
so far i don't know and yeah i'm sure it's
a skill issue but i just
i don't know it's it's a new game so it
doesn't come with a manual um
it showed me how to
you know stack up attacks or whatever but
i'm sitting here going like what i'm
supposed to
i'm supposed to need like multiple potions
to heal my guy and like first boss fight i
thought i'm just still learning the game
mechanics but then my understanding of
the game is that you play all eight of
the campaigns so i guess they have to be
difficult enough that by the time you're
doing the eighth one which is the same
whether you play it first or last it
still has to be challenging and
interesting like games that have done
difficulty shifting based on your order
before i guess so like they can scale
each one
yeah um
anywho
oh right yeah oh right so i can't
decide i i couldn't even decide which one to
play it on i really like them both
i i don't
mini led is cool but i i see it as kind of a
stepping stone to oled as long as your use
case isn't going to have burn and be an
enormous problem for you and i would i would
rather just have oled but the steam deck is
not as powerful as the ally
right now they're both great options i can't
even decide which one i would want to play a game on
as a dev manager at technology corporation
laying off 50 of the team i had to inform
those affected despite not making the call
have you ever delivered news that impacted
people's lives while being limited by hr script
oh yeah
yeah that's honestly part of the gig
that's a huge thing like in bc um if you give
someone a reason for parting ways uh they can take
that reason and twist it into um a huge variety of
different things yeah huge variety of different
things so the the legal advice we get now is you
just have to say it's not working out we're going
in a different direction if they ask why you
basically just say it's not working out we're going
in a different direction that's like i feel so
unfair you just to me but you and it's frustrating
because you really want to like help that person in
that moment yep but you like legally can't it's
just or you open yourself up to a bunch of liability
which feels kind of ridiculous yeah all right
hey dll long time listener first time caller
linus was your what was your experience like getting
fitted for your big screen beyond i'm currently in the
process of getting mine exchanged for a narrower ipd
they nailed it i don't know yeah i guess um bad luck
with seemingly more and more gov sponsorships lately
would it be possible to persuade them to support an
open api to enable things like home assistant integration
um i've raised this as a concern with the business team i think
they're bringing it to gov and figuring out sort of
what the sitch is right now love listening to y'all while working
luke what is the project you regret the outcome of most
pizza sorry my actual first thought in my throat
it was cold pizza heater
my first thought did go to pizza heater computer but i think i'm gonna say
the um the post feature on floatplane which is interesting
because people use it now
but anyway so the the post feature basically we were trying to do creator
recruitment and we just had video and a bunch of people were like oh you need
you need audio and picture and text or else it's like not everything
and like we'll join once you do that we were like okay
so we spent six months doing that we did it
and then nobody cares it's just like oh man uh that's that's one of the points in
time where we shifted to like okay we're gonna make stuff for the creators
that are on the platform i've personally used posts just so you know
now for whatever reason it's used actually quite a bit
yeah like a lot of the creators use it a lot of people found very good ways to
use it stuff like that but when we first launched it nobody used
it it's a workflow thing i understand yada
yada but like it's it was it was depressing at the time
um but i mean yeah i'm happy we have it now because it's like
actually very commonly used it also allows you to have multiple
things per upload so like someone could upload a video
with individual graph files attached to it um
uh yeah there's like lots of other stuff there was for the behind the scenes of
the what it's like to work at ltc videos
uh or not behind the scenes for the extended cuts of that
there was like so many videos that they ended up uploading them in in clumps so
that you didn't get like 10 billion notifications it was good
linus what about doing a quarterly or bi-monthly merch update instead of with
wan updates i feel like it would be easier to go much more in depth and it
would be easier to find specific updates
uh the intention is for that to take place in the creator warehouse newsletter at
some point we've had a really hard time just with being busy with other things
being on top of that and doing them regularly enough
but at some point i want that newsletter to be
that content that you're asking for here i think we talk about merch enough on the
show as it is um and i don't think we can avoid talking
about it every week because so many people ask us about it so
i don't think we're going to move to just consolidated monthly
talking about merch sessions and i don't think that um adding monthly to the
already weekly ones we're doing is going to be the way to go i think i think
getting that newsletter up and running is is probably our best bet
with modern cpus getting hotter and hotter
um at what point is it necessary to commit to an ai o or water cooler
uh well it's complicated right today but also never
aios are not always the best solution
like if i was going thread ripper um do those thermal siphon guys still exist
because that's what i'd want
uh thread ripper yeah this thing
sick uh do they do they support the the new ones though
oh no no no no no oh i don't see anything about the new ones
uh do they have like news media reviews blog anything
uh okay i don't i don't know um anyway ice giant super cool products
can i can i can i buy it i can just buy it
uh yeah i think they probably still have some work to do
for mounting for the new thread ripper but i
honestly i'd rather have something like this than a water cooler just because
it's fewer points of failure you don't have to worry about the pump failing
so it says there's 16 left but that number hasn't been going down
and there's none in there oh okay i see
um there's one in incoming i don't that's it i don't think i have an answer for this
one thor i can't think of a feature in a game that was removed
after the game got an update that has bothered me luke can you think of a
feature in a game that was i've been trying to think about this not really
to be honest um i know this is a thing but it's not
something that i've like tracked uh like nerfing weapons and stuff like
that you know obviously you know that kind of sucks if
that you're into that meta yeah but it's not a feature no it's not a feature i
can't think something that i've complained about recently was battle bit
had a uh map and mode voting system and they just turned it into like a random
slot machine instead of voting okay well i think that's a great example but
then they brought it back okay but but but you were but yes
yeah i think that's the best one that i got yeah i mean this didn't this wasn't
removed from halo infinite because it was always stupid like this but not being
able to select what game mode you want to play yeah not being able to say yeah i
just want to play capture the flag tonight
um that was removed compared to how it should work but it was always like that
which is ridiculous and i think that's pretty much
it for tonight oh update on the rain cover for the backpack asks bryce b okay
we've got our sample of something that i'm ready to press go on except the pricing is a
big problem and the pricing is my fault because i wanted the rain fly to turn the
backpack um reflective because anytime there's rain there can be visibility
challenges oh yeah that's a big benefit and i really wanted the bag to be black
to match our look but also be high viz so we've got this really cool graphic that is a
collaboration between um it's sort of based on some of lloyd's artwork but then it was
adapted by a relatively new member of our creator warehouse team lisa and it's like kind of mountains
and like i don't know constellations and stuff like super cool and then in the initial meeting
about it i was like oh man how cool would it be because we had two different options for the
reflective material we had the kind of like gray high viz one and then you know that like rainbow
reflective material okay so we ordered this is gonna look sick so we ordered samples with the just
like the gray one and with the rainbow one and i was like oh you know it'd be really cool if we
had like gray mountains and like rainbow northern lights that sounds awesome that one's gonna be
like 60 or 70 dollars because it's now a multi-stage process but it sounds actually amazing but it's
gonna look amazing um so we're we're we're trying to figure out what to do do we do we go forward
with it and just have like the world's most expensive rain fly or do do we pretty wicked or do we do the
same thing and just have one color and have it be way cheaper do you know what the difference would
be i don't remember exactly but it's a lot it's it's more than you'd think because it takes this
like juju one stage thing and it turns it into like a multi-stage thing yeah it like it kind of
up the the the process yeah yeah so i love the idea of the two mode yeah that is a little expensive
yeah that's it's very expensive i guarantee you some people would buy it but see i don't want to
just do the rainbow guys because the viz is not as high and functionality first it's like safety
first no but like for real um all right anyway i think that's it thanks for tuning in to the
band show you guys we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye
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