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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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Are we starting?
Maybe.
Are we here?
We might be live.
We're going to have to start from the top.
So we have topics to talk about now that the stream works.
One of them is that H3H3 got sued by a fellow YouTuber named The Bold Guy is being sued.
That's fair.
It's in the process.
I don't know legal stuff.
They're not in court yet.
John's probably like super sad over there, able to hear me say dumb things.
There's also a I can't use the touch screen, this laptop doesn't have one, derp.
There's also a study that claims that Fitbit trackers are highly inaccurate and Google
has kind of won a case where Oracle was suing them to the deal of I think it was like $9
billion or something.
I'll talk about that later.
Also, Foxconn has replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots because no, guys, it's
totally cool.
Advancements in technology just create more jobs.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And fair.
Moving forward.
In the first two industrial revolutions they did.
Okay, so I was going to say, I'm not going to do it anyways, age three, age three, who
I think I can actually look at the article for now and like show it on screen.
Oh, dang, look at that.
Awesome.
Wow.
It works.
Anyways, Burkle's gone this time, so that's unfortunate.
But age three, age three productions, Ethan and Hela Klein are being sued over alleged
copyright infringement over a reaction video that they made to someone doing parkour.
That guy's name was, I don't remember, it's not very important.
Matt Hauszone, I think.
Matt Hauszone?
I think that's his channel and they, I think he's colloquially referred to as Bold Guy.
Right, yes.
There's been some pretty major updates here.
A lot of people know that this was going on.
Philip DeFranco opened up a fund on GoFundMe.
It raised like over $120,000.
A huge amount of big YouTubers stepped in, including the Fine Bros, which was probably
a very good PR move for them, but they stepped into the amount of $10,000, which is probably
worth more than the PR move.
So there was some actual true goodwill there as well.
Big other YouTubers like PewDiePie and a whole bunch of people that I don't remember, but
if you go watch Philip DeFranco's video, he talks about it.
Even Leafy donated some.
There's certain things that trump petty arguments.
Yeah, and he put his name as Leafy, aka the Cyberbully.
Yeah, yeah.
That was kind of funny.
I guess.
That was good.
Okay, but you should talk about the updates.
Yeah, so there was an update video that they posted yesterday after the initial video about
how they were being sued.
So in the initial video, they specifically said, we're not going to do a Patreon or something
like that.
They supported us a ton, and that's all that we can ask for.
But after that, like Luke said, Philly D came in and was a boss and started the GoFundMe
and contributed five grand to start it.
Now it's huge.
Yeah, that's one thing I want to say too, is Philip DeFranco didn't just start a page.
Yeah, he wasn't just like, hey guys, you should donate.
He was like, here's a page and five grand.
Five grand.
And really set a benchmark to move forward.
And I think that's one of the big reasons why a lot of YouTubers stepped up.
Even Notch and Gary from Gary's Mod contributed, like it's crazy.
So anyway, in their update video, they essentially were like, holy crap, this is insane.
We never thought that this would happen.
And they made it clear that like, yeah, in the initial video, we said our legal fees
could be up to $100,000 if this went to the full extent that it could go.
They don't expect them to be that high if it doesn't go the full way.
So essentially what they're doing is they're making sure that the funds get handed off
into an escrow account that's going to be managed by Ryan Morrison and I think Michael
Lee is the other guy's name.
So to the people out there that don't know what an escrow account is, including definitely
myself, not trying to dodge that, what?
So an escrow account is, let's see, the official.
Escrow account is a temporary pass-through account held by a third party during the process
of a transaction between two parties.
So in this case, essentially what that means is that the people who donated are the first
party, the second party is whoever needs protection under fair use, and then the third party who's
going to be controlling the escrow account is Michael Lee and Ryan Morrison.
Ryan Morrison, more commonly known as the video game attorney.
So yeah.
And the first client of this escrow account, if you want to call it that, the first recipient
of the escrow account will be the legal battle that HCH3 is engaged in.
Not them specifically, but the legal battle.
Yeah, so that's an important clarification.
It's not like they can just go and be like, oh yeah, we need X amount of dollars and it's
just on their word.
It's specifically Ryan Morrison and Michael Lee who are controlling the money and then
they will just take out as necessary to fight these legal battles on behalf of creators.
So it's kind of badass.
I think they call it the fair use protection account, aka the FUPA.
Yeah, which is great.
And the FUPA keeps growing, as they say.
But yeah, it's kind of badass because something that Ethan outlined in the follow up video
was that now there's this bulk of money sitting there that's almost acting like a deterrent
to other people who want to come in and abuse the broken copyright system, right?
So obviously there are cases where copyright law should hold up, but fair use is there
for a reason.
And these people who might not have had the funds or the means necessary to be able to
defend themselves in the past will have that now.
So that's a pretty incredible thing.
Yeah, and it's almost acting in complete opposite ways.
This guy probably wanted it to because one of the big things brought up was the first
thing that they wanted to do was just like, oh, give us four grand and take the video
down and you can move on.
And the reason why they didn't just do that, because that's...
It's setting a really dangerous precedent because as soon as the attorney of this guy
goes, oh yeah, Ethan and Eli gave me four grand because I came and threatened him with
a lawsuit.
Then they come to Joey Salads or whoever and they go, hey, I got four grand out of Ethan
and Eli, but I can get 10 for you.
Or I can go over to Leafy and I can get however much from him.
So yeah, it's a really important thing that they're doing and like they've been saying,
it's way bigger than just the battle that is Ethan and Eli versus both guys.
Because now, especially with the big fund, instead of it being this lawyer behind the
scenes just going like, hey, I got four grand for them, it's lawyers behind the scenes receiving
people trying to do this and going like, I don't know, because those guys just got super
slammed.
So I don't think I want to waste my time with this.
And it also like, I'm going to probably say something completely stupid here because I'm
not entirely familiar with how the legal system in America works, it's a little different
up here in Canada.
But it also sets a precedent, right?
If Ethan and Eli go in and they win, then that can be used as a case, like a case study
essentially for future cases when fair use is being abused, right?
So that can come into play as evidence for future cases and it just helps build up the
backing of fair use.
I'm pretty sure that's definitely a thing in the States.
I don't actually know if that's a thing in Canada.
Is it a thing in Canada?
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
Okay.
It is a thing in Canada because we're based on, we're based on the British, now I'm confused
of which is which.
Hey John!
Can we borrow you for a sec?
Okay.
We need legal advice.
We need legal advice.
Yeah, we need the legal department.
Okay.
So in this case with Ethan and Hila being sued by some dude, if they win, can lawyers
in the future use the fact that they won?
Essentially, is the US based on case law?
Yes.
In the same jurisdiction, yeah.
I mean, I think Canada is the same way too.
Sure.
So if like there is a disposition like in one jurisdiction, like in one state or in
one certain court in the US, and there's a similar case later on, then whatever the holding
was is binding precedent and essentially has the force of law.
So yeah.
Oh wow.
It's a big deal.
Okay.
Okay.
So yeah, I don't know if you guys could hear the full thing there, but essentially, like
I said, it sets a precedent for future cases under case law where this can then be used
as evidence in other cases to defend fair use.
So I mean, overall, like when I first saw the video of them being sued, I think it was
only like two days ago or something.
Not that long ago.
I was like, wow, that sucks.
Like this is a huge burden and it's actually really inspiring to see like the whole community
come together and support not only Ethan and Hila, but support setting a precedent and
building a precedent here.
So there's even a new Twitter account.
I'm going to show this on screen.
This is fantastic.
There's even a new Twitter account called FUPA for freedom.
And it even has like a logo and everything.
And I'm sure they'll get a cover image on here, but this, there's no way this has been
up for very long at all.
Looks like 21 hours.
21 hours ago, this Twitter account was created.
It has 34 tweets.
That's it.
And it already has 27.7 thousand followers.
But this is, as it says, the fair use protection account, keeping the internet free of copyright
trolls funded by you, led by H3H3 productions, Mr. Ryan Morrison and Geek Attorney.
So yeah, I think Geek Attorney is the alias of Michael Lee, which is the business partner.
And then there's Morrison Lee slash FUPA, which is what I'm assuming once it loads here
is the new, uh, yeah, so this is there like, cause this is the internet attorneys or whatever
thing, right?
This is where like they're housing the information about it, taking down crop top, uh, copyright
trolls.
Well, not anymore.
I don't know.
I think that's pretty cool.
And like one of the things that, um, again, Ethan mentioned in the second video was like,
it's not like people haven't had support in the past because the video game attorney and
his partner have been like protecting these people sometimes even like free of charge
offering legal advice, free of charge, not even charging for their services.
So, um, essentially everybody wins in this situation.
It's it's, you know, a huge, uh, a huge deterrent for copyright trolls in that sense.
And then also these guys are able to, you know, do what they love to do, help the people
that need help and then also eat and like, yeah, like we haven't really had any major
problems with this.
Have we had any, I don't think so.
We don't really cover other people's stuff.
I mean, we're way different.
So we're, we're not really in this realm, but we still kind of want to protect our own,
I guess.
So it's good to see this kind of stuff happen.
I do kind of wish that this little thing in the corner also mentioned, you know, like
Philip Franco, the guy that like, yeah, it's probably fine.
It's not really a big deal.
I just think it would have been kind of cool to give a shout out to, yeah, for sure.
No.
Oh, we're still, we're still, just give it a sec, give it a sec.
I'm just not going to touch it.
Give it a sec.
We're going to, I can still show my screen here.
Move on.
Mike 1 4 9 6 says move on.
Uh, we will with that.
I can't change the scene on X split.
Yeah, it's still not going to work and I'm afraid of crashing the whole thing, but we're
going to talk about the next topic, which, which will, Oh my, there we go.
One second.
Which will be Fitbit.
Fitbit trackers are highly inaccurate.
That's in a quote thing.
Um, they're, apparently there's some lawsuit thing going on right now where someone's suing
them for giving inaccurate health data.
Fitbit has responded by saying it's not supposed to be like health data.
It's supposed to give a rough representation or I think they, I don't know.
Okay.
I'm going to try to find their actual quote here.
Give me one second here.
Let's see.
Fitbit called the study bias baseless and saying that it lacked scientific rigor, which
is a pretty rough.
So the study was done by researchers at the California state polytechnic university who
tested the heart rates of 43 healthy adults with Fitbit's pure pulse heart rate monitors.
And then they use the Fitbit surge watches and charge HR bands on each wrist.
Critics were then hooked up to a bio harness device that produced an electrocardiogram
or an ECG.
So like highly accurate medical grade stuff.
Yeah.
To record against the data.
The results show that Fitbit devices miscalculated heart rates by up to 20 beats per minute on
average.
20 or 30.
Yeah.
So during, that's during more intensive workouts.
And again, yeah, Fitbit said that the study was biased and I'm sure that in their terms
of use, it says somewhere that Fitbit is not intended to be used as a medical device and
it's an approximation of blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
It's actually not.
It says here that the devices are designed to provide meaningful data to our users to
help them reach their health and fitness goals and are not intended to be scientific or medical
devices.
And in my opinion, this isn't like vitamin water saying that no one could possibly think
that their drink was supposed to be healthy.
I think this is literally them going like, okay, we made a device that sits on your wrist
and gives you a rough ish calculation of your heartbeat.
And that should somewhat be able to help you with your workouts.
Obviously they're not looking to like diagnose people in hospitals by putting Fitbits on.
I think that's okay.
I don't think that it should be off by an average of 20 beats per minute.
That's insane.
But I don't know.
One little spoiler thing here is I have a Fitbit and actually many other fitness trackers
sitting in the room right over there.
And we are going to be doing our own testing, not because this just came up.
This is just kind of coincidental.
We were actually going to do our testing before this, just someone lost the chest strap band.
But yeah, so that kind of sucks, I guess, because I wanted to benchmark them against
a chest strap, which are supposed to be actually pretty good.
Yeah.
That's not as accurate as an ECG.
No.
I'm still good.
Now that we are back.
Okay.
So I'm going to like run on the beach and make it look all cool and stuff.
But now I might actually try to talk to a local medical clinic, which I had already
decided before this thing came out, which is again, coincidental.
And I might try to hook up to an ECG and then wear a bunch of these watches and see what
happens.
But I don't know.
I am interested.
We're kind of a third party.
We haven't been paid by anyone to make that video.
We bought our Fitbit tracker and I don't think we've ever had a sponsorship from we've never
had a sponsorship from any fitness tracker company.
What are some of the brands you're using?
We have Garmin, we have VivoFit, we have Jawbone, we have Fitbit, I think that's about it.
So like, we don't have a horse in the race.
We have an Apple watch and we might get like one or two Android ones, although I'm not
too sure.
There's just a billion Android watches.
I don't really know which one to cover, but we're doing ones that have heart rate monitors.
That's the whole point.
Apple watch is in there, a few other ones are in there, but we haven't had a sponsorship
from anyone unless we include like an Asus watch.
Then if it won, that would suck.
We could also just not include an Asus watch and just go from there.
I don't know.
I don't follow the Android trackers very closely.
I don't know if the same ones.
Plus one for Nike fuel band.
Do we have a Nike fuel band?
We do not currently have a Nike fuel band.
Should we get one?
Maybe.
Somebody says plus one.
Lee begged, I've heard that they're good, but no, I don't know.
This is interesting.
The whole reason why I wanted to do the fitness tracker showdown, which is what I've just
been describing is because it's confusing.
When you go to buy something, you're like, I want this fitness implement.
They all say that they have heart rate monitors, but like, it's like an approximation.
How accurate is it?
Right?
So what I wanted to do is I'm very frustrated right now with where smartwatches and fitness
trackers are.
I don't feel like there's a happy medium so much because like good smartwatches don't
seem to also be good fitness trackers and vice versa.
Good fitness trackers don't seem to be good smartwatches.
And the Apple watch is just not a good smartwatch, but I've heard that it is a good fitness tracker.
So you've got that.
Hey, it's also an expensive fitness tracker.
Hey, yeah, nice.
Wicked.
All right.
So the show goes on, good things come to those who wait.
Yeah, but I've heard it's a good fitness tracker, but who knows?
And what I want to do is narrow it down to like the top three and then do individual
reviews on those fitness trackers later on.
Someone says this is boring and that we should bring on the PC Harbor topics.
Have they ever been to the show before?
Not enough stuff happens.
Have you been here before?
Do you know what this is?
I like, I know this guy's different, but like, do you know what this, this whole thing is?
I'll let you think on that.
Speaking of hardware technology stuff, if you want to talk about the extremely few things
that happened this week in the computer hardware realm of things, because spoiler alert, Computex
is coming up.
So most people are keeping their information for that.
There's a whole bunch.
We're not going to really probably cover it much on this show, but there's like every
brand of 1080 has already shown off their like external cooling solution.
So rip all of my Computex coverage.
But we'll be there.
We'll be there.
And I'll be able to like hold it and turn it around and show you.
The ASUS one that I saw today was pretty bad.
It looks sick.
So the ASUS one has like an RGB eye logo.
Oh, I'm going to try to bring it up.
Sure.
Yeah, it has RGB on it, which I don't think anyone's completely sure how they're controlling
that yet.
Let's go to ASUS PC DIY because that's literally their thing.
I wonder if it's like a thing where you have to use, what is their motherboard RGB thing
called again?
Like Aurora or something.
Oh yeah, something like that.
I wonder if it like ties into that somehow.
So it looks like that when all the lights are off and stuff.
Big, fatty, cooler triple fans.
It's got a metal back plate, stop on it.
Metal back plate.
Yeah.
That looks badass, which is right there.
Yep.
A ASUS Strix.
Cool.
Awesome.
And then you can see here, oh yeah, Aura.
Looks like Aura.
Not no one knew, apparently PC DIY, which is ASUS's thing, was like, yo, I guess everyone
can know now.
So that's cool.
So it has static breathing strobing color cycle music effect, which is horrible in my
opinion and CPU temperature levels, which has a strobing effect with your music.
No, it has, it has just music effect, which pulses to the beat of your music.
Yeah.
Cause it's 1994.
My dad.
Okay.
That joke.
It's got some sick underglow on it.
I guess 1994 is actually too late.
1984?
I don't know.
My dad, when he, earlier than that, how old are you, dad?
I don't know.
Anyways, when my dad was in like high school or something, he made this like electronic
thing.
You thought your dad was in high school in 1994?
Yeah, I got confused.
I was four when my dad was in high school, he was a early breeder.
So I think what happened was you plugged your 3.5 millimeter into one end and then it passed
through to your speakers and it would like light up with, he made that when he was in
high school.
That's pretty dope.
So we're bringing it back.
All right.
Yeah.
Cool.
Anyways, the LEDs on it look actually pretty cool and pretty well placed in my opinion.
Cool.
Just kind of go around the outside.
Looks pretty good.
I like, I saw it.
I was like, yeah, I like it.
IO configuration looks standard.
No.
Two.
Two HDMI, two display port and one DVI.
An interesting choice.
So what's standard?
Unless I'm crazy, I believe standard is one HDMI 2.0, three display port, 1.4s and a DVI.
Oh, okay.
I could be wrong.
So they just swapped out a display port for an HDMI.
And it's $639.99, which confirms what I thought.
That the add-in cards are going to be less than the founders?
More.
The founders is $5.99.
Oh.
Is that right, John?
Yeah.
So the reason why I thought this was because they were saying like, oh, MSRP of add-in
board partner cards will be way like $100 lower, $4.99 or whatever, right?
But I think that didn't account for any changes that they made.
So Asus brought in RGB and all this other kind of stuff and it costs way more now.
Right.
So maybe, but they said add-in cards.
I know.
But I think.
But like this is a bad ass add-in card.
Yeah.
So like, I think someone might make like some plastic shroud and it might be cheap and then
it can be as low as $4.99.
I don't think it's going to be like, this is what they're all going to be.
I think it's going to be like, this is the baseline of add-in board.
So like the cheapest 1080 that you're going to be able to get is going to be $4.99.
I think.
Hopefully.
Yeah.
That'd be pretty dope.
I guess we might as well just go through everyone's 1080s because why not?
EVGA 1080.
MSRP is $5.99.
Sorry?
That's the founder's card.
You're all $500.
What?
For the cheapest one.
The founder's card is $5.99?
No, the founder's card is $6.99.
Oh, $6.99.
Okay.
So is it cheaper then?
Is what cheaper?
This is $6.39.
Right?
So the crazy RGB triple fan Strix.
Is less than the founder's?
Is less than the founder's edition.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Good.
That's kind of insane.
The stock-cooled variant will be $6.20.
And this is only $6.40?
Stock-clocked variant.
Sorry.
The hot-clocked OC version will be $6.40.
Which I have a video on overclocking 1080s that'll be coming out soon-ish.
Probably after Computex.
I'm not sure.
There's some really cool new stuff with GPU Boost 3.0.
Four fanators.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I want them to tell me about power.
Initial force power, that's not what I meant.
Twitch chat's so funny, man.
What are they saying?
They're just so funny, man.
Not in the EU.
Yeah, not in Canada either, bro.
Yeah, not at all in Canada either.
Not at all.
Hmm.
Ooh.
GPU Boost clock of 1936.
That actually sounds right around quite similar to the not super crazy pushing it, but kind
of borderline of the founder's edition.
So I think you can definitely get more out of that, too.
But we'll talk about that later.
Let's move on to the EVGA.
Bring EVGA 1080.
An OnTek and ZOTAC.
Two birds, one stone, dude.
There we go.
The ZOTAC one, ah, we'll see.
See like this push the limit is maybe, nah, maybe all right.
And then, oh, it doesn't show the back.
Come on.
Show me all the pictures, man.
It's just like giant push the limit.
Yeah, which I'm not super sure about.
Let's just do this, ZOTAC 1080, and then images, wow, what are those?
That's kind of insane.
I haven't seen that yet, PGF edition.
So we're going to check all these things more in depth when we're at the show, but this
looks like a height extended and width extended graphics card from ZOTAC.
There, this is the one that I was talking about.
It looks like they just slapped a sticker on it that says push the limit.
And the thing that really makes me sad is it looks so sweet without that, without the
like weird like push the limit.
Yeah, like I like the striping.
Yeah, and if I remember correctly, the lower end one, not the like amp, exclamation mark
thing.
Doesn't have that.
Let's go to the link real quick.
This is on video cards.
So there's the two fan and three fan versions.
The three fan version has push the limit on it.
The Omega and the Xtreme or whatever.
Yeah.
Three fan version, push the limit, two fan version, clean back.
See I like that.
And it looks better.
And it's like, damn it.
Oh, you can see there's two power fingers there.
Good.
Yes.
Okay, that's awesome.
One thing that I've been a little bit annoyed about by the Founders Edition is spoiler alert
for my overclocking video that's coming out.
One of the things that held it back multiple times with the new OC scanner mode, which
I'll explain in that video, is it was hitting power limits.
And I think that's because of the one PCI Express power that was powering it.
So hopefully this card will give it more.
Both of these cards will give it more because they have two PCI Express power plugs.
That's what I was looking for on the ASUS page and couldn't find it.
Sure.
One second.
EVGA 1080, 1080 Founders Edition, no I want your aftermarket one, dog.
There we go.
That looks pretty sweet.
It's all like metal.
It's not symmetrical though.
Not symmetrical.
Oh, you're right.
That kind of bothers me.
That's a little weird.
And honestly, this part I don't like at all.
I'm actually okay with it.
Really?
Yeah.
Like that's...
I guess it's not plugged in so you can't tell if it glows or anything.
Maybe it has backlighting.
It might.
RGB backlit.
That would be pretty effing cool.
Here we go.
It looks like it is lit up.
Maybe not RGB.
Oh yeah.
But it's white backlighting.
That looks clean.
I actually like that.
I like that a lot.
That might look alright.
I don't know if it looks great with that board in particular.
Sure.
I think if you used, not to just shill, but the coloured thing works together.
The Asus deluxe board in white, considering that's white backlighting, then the green
SC would bother some people.
Yeah.
I don't know though.
I don't know.
Maybe.
We'll see.
Anyways, graphics cards.
We'll be covering a bunch of those at Computex.
More in depth, talking about their clock speeds, their prices hopefully, what power delivery
systems they have.
All that kind of stuff at Computex.
There will be a few videos there.
I wouldn't worry too much about it.
EVJ.
That's another one we need to figure out.
Okay.
Moving on.
Another people getting sued thing.
The jury has sided with Google in a battle over Android software with Oracle.
So Android, Google dodged a $9 billion potential bullet here, which would have been very brutal.
The federal jury just found on Thursday that Google didn't need permission to use Arrival's
programming tool as it built Android, also known as Java and stuff.
So Google argued that because it used only a small part of Java to create Android, it
qualified for a fair use exemption from copyright.
And apparently the jury's verdict marks Google's second victory in the case.
Wow.
That's kind of crazy.
That is pretty crazy, especially because they just got slammed in, I don't remember where,
for like not paying taxes or something.
So like billions of dollars there, billions of dollars here.
That could have been a pretty brutal combo, but Oracle said it will appeal the latest
verdict on numerous grounds.
Saw that coming.
Yeah.
I mean with every appeal, it gets more difficult for them, but like I'm sure they're not just
going to let it go.
Yeah.
Android's huge.
$9 billion is kind of something to fight for.
Speaking of lots of money to fight for, Japan, there was an ATM heist that reportedly involved
over a hundred or about a hundred people exactly.
And they stole what is equivalent to 12.7 million US dollars or 1.4 billion yen.
It used South African credit cards.
They hit 1400 different ATMs and they withdrew about the equivalent of 900 US dollars at
each ATM.
You know, it's kind of funny.
Are you familiar with the COD player Nadeshot?
Do you know who that is?
No, actually.
He's like a pretty, pretty big on YouTube.
Just like general like pro gaming guy, he used to be on Optic.
So he just started a new org called 100 Thieves.
So like there was a Guardian article that was like 100 Thieves steals 12.3 million US
dollars.
And people were just tweeting it at him being like, I see you, I see you Nate.
I see where you got that funding for that new team.
Oh my goodness.
That is ridiculous.
Pretty hilarious actually.
Like yeah, apparently the Reuter's Africa is stating that Standard Bank is estimating
its total losses to be at about 300 million rand or $19 million.
That's prior to any potential recoveries that may happen.
There was 100 Thieves, see what I did there, included in this heist.
So I'm sure they'll catch some of them and recover some of the money.
I mean like stuff like this happens from time to time.
I remember, it must have been like five or six years ago now, but I remember hearing
about something that happened in like the state of New York, I think where people did
a similar thing with like 30 different people.
So like this is obviously insane, 100 people coordinated in an attack like that is ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
And the thing is you catch some of them and that's probably going to help you catch others.
So I guess we'll have to see how many people get nailed for this.
That is a lot of money and you think about it.
How many ATMs was it, 1400 ATMs and 100 people.
So each person went to an average of 14 ATMs and withdrew $900 each time.
You think about the amount of security cameras that they passed.
It's insane.
And like the window that it was in, there's so many of these guys going to ATMs and they're
all like $900 transactions because that's the most you can take out.
So it's super easy to track the transactions.
It's super easy to track like the window of people walking up to these ATMs and there's
so many cameras from so many angles.
Some people are going to get nailed.
A few people will.
The people who are like at the top are already in the Caymans.
Gone.
Super gone.
It's going to be interesting in a few years when something like this happens and we're
like yeah the people in charge are like on Mars already.
They already took a SpaceX shuttle out, they're gone.
Yeah.
They called up the boy Elon, like we got some money man, let's get us out now.
What was I going to say, yeah I wonder if part of the idea of pulling in so many people
into this is you have your core little group, you have dummies, and you have a whole bunch
of dummies.
Not to say that they're stupid people, but just people who are set up essentially.
Like oh yeah you're going to this one, no you don't need a mask.
Yeah we disabled the cameras for you, it's going to look more suspicious if you wear
a mask, things that sound believable.
They're just set up essentially.
Yeah I wouldn't be too surprised.
Anyways Foxconn replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots, reduced its employee strength
from 110,000 employees to 50,000 employees, quote unquote, thanks to the introduction
of robots.
So there's no carefulness going on there.
They're currently saying that more companies are likely to follow suit, apparently many
of the manufacturing tasks associated with their operations that aren't already automated
are in current plans to be automated.
They said that they will continue to harness automation and manpower in our manufacturing
operations and we expect to maintain our significant workforce in China.
Although who knows what that really means because you can just define significant as
whatever the hell you want.
And like maintain a significant workforce in China, like if their workforce in China
is already like multiple hundreds of thousands of people, maybe significant to them is 20,000.
Exactly, that's what I mean.
They can decide whatever significant is.
One report from Deloitte and Oxford University suggesting that 35% of all jobs are at risk
over the next 20 years.
That's not just like in China, although to be completely honest a large percentage of
that will be in China.
Former McDonald's chief executive Ed Renzi has recently said that it's cheaper to buy
a $35,000 robotic arm than it is to hire an employee who is inefficient, making $15 an
hour bagging french fries.
I mean, I think I said this at the top of the show, but like this is essentially the
third industrial revolution, right?
Because it was what, steam electricity and then robotics now essentially.
I think the first one was steam, but what essentially ends up happening in the first
two is that yeah, the lowest end jobs get cut and then those people are actualized in
more fulfilling positions.
Whereas this time around, I mean in this series that may happen to a degree where more jobs
become available once the technology is instated, but like we're heading down a dangerous road
for sure.
Like I don't want to call it the end or anything because I'm sure when electricity was introduced
everyone called the demon and was freaking out.
The problem right now, in my opinion, is that there's already a huge jobs problem and you're
just dumping way more people into a huge jobs problem.
And the problem with automation by robots is you're just literally replacing anything
that isn't like a vocal position.
And even then people are starting to prefer non-vocal robotic transactions where people
thought they would not.
In places like grocery stores, people are starting to line up for the self-use automated
tellers instead of going to the people that do it for them.
It's always crazy to me when like, the one that I notice the most is bank tellers.
When you'll come in and you'll be like, hey I need cash, I need a deposit or whatever,
and they'll be like, oh we have an app where you can deposit your checks on your phone.
And I'm like, you're putting yourself out of a job, like what are you doing?
So I mean I don't want to, like I said, I don't want to be the guy who brings thunderstorms
and says, oh this is the end, but I mean it's scary for sure.
And at the very least it's an extremely transitional time and a lot of people are going to be caught
in the crap for sure.
And there's massive news reports everywhere like Uber trying as hard as they can actively
to make sure that they never have to have another driver again and it's all automated.
Transport industries everywhere are on the brink of just like firing everyone because
they can automate all of their driving.
Oh my goodness, like I used to work for a company called Canada Bread Factory.
If that place doesn't get automated in a year, I would be surprised because there's like
nothing.
There was literally a job where you go like this and you pick up the bread and then you
rotate for like a little bit and then put it in a tray and then go back and pick up
the bread and then rotate and put it in a tray.
Like the fact that that wasn't already automated is wild, so it'll be automated eventually
and the driving from that place was, because it wasn't really a warehouse, it was just
a distribution center, they would drive semi-trucks not very far and dump off all the bread and
then drive them back and it was routine routes every single time.
And people, not the drivers, would just fill up the trucks.
So if they automated filling up the trucks, which would be extremely easy, and automated
the driving, which would be extremely easy because it's the same route every single time,
but just no one needs to work there except for mechanics.
And like you could say like, oh, everyone's just going to get a specialized trade and
just fix the robots.
Not enough jobs at all.
Our population is constantly increasing.
Yeah.
And like not enough jobs and so many people are caught in, like I said, the wave of crap
of like, okay, now you're useless and you either have to go back to school or figure
something else out.
Yeah, it's just, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting at the very least.
Yeah.
Not so sure about that.
Anyways, da-dun-dun, da-dun-dun, da-dun-dun, da-dun-dun, ad spots.
And Nick is here this time.
So if I super screw them up, he can just tell me in person immediately, which is good.
I'm doing my lynda.com dance because I like lynda.com.
I can find the notes on this.
It's used by millions of people around the world.
More than 3000 courses are available in topics like web development, photography, visual
design and business.
I'm taking a photography course, even though I'm trying to learn how to film stuff.
The reason why I'm doing that is because it has more like slower, for people that have
no idea what they're talking about, including me, explanations of different things like
exposure theory and stuff like that.
So then I can apply that to the video side of things.
What I really like about the course that I'm going through, I'm going to skip most of the
notes and just go over my personal stuff, but I'll try to get through the notes anyways,
is that I can like be doing something else and listening to it and then go like, okay,
I think I missed like half of that because I got way too engrossed in what I was working
on.
Skip back to the last word in the script that you can read below the video that I heard
and recognize, or if I don't understand something fully, I can just skip back to the beginning
of the word.
It's just a really easy way of skipping through videos.
I can also take notes on their app and I can log the like library of courses that I want
to go through.
I created a course plan for myself that gets me through all the different photography courses
that I want to do and that gets me into some filming courses and then gets me into some
editing courses and stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
Cause you can make your own playlists, right?
Yeah.
That's pretty darn cool.
So I like made my own thing.
Yeah.
And then I'm just going along it, which is way easier because I basically formed my own
overall course out of a whole bunch of course modules that they gave me and they do have
overall courses that they can just use, that you can just use on your own.
I just have a weird random amount of knowledge from like working with Brandon and stuff so
I could just skip some of them.
So I just did it that way.
It's a way to up your job skills, which you know, with automation might be really helpful
and I believe it's only 25 bucks a month and you can start a 10 day free trial by going
to lynda.com slash wanshow.
So if you're like, whoa, my job just got automated or whoa, it's going to be really easy to automate
my job, you might want to just start early and figure out what you're going to do later
now.
It's an interesting sales pitch for Linda.
It's topical.
It works.
Fresh books.
If what you start doing with the skills that you learned from Linda because your job was
automated is something like working for yourself because you know, you're not going to automate
yourself out of a job or if you do, you can just pay your wages to yourself that you would
have gotten from your automated thing doing stuff.
Anyways, you can keep track of the hours that your robot works and exactly what it did and
when and where and all that kind of stuff quickly and easily through their app.
And if your robot has any expenses, you can have your robot just take a picture of the
receipt and it will handle all the rest of it.
You don't have to be like, hey robot, what did you spend money on today?
It'll just do it all for you, which is great.
Your robot can take deposits before it does the work so you can make sure that the guy
doesn't just try to like kick it over when it's done the job.
You actually make some of the money at least.
What are we doing?
They have a mobile version and a desktop version so you can take fresh books with you wherever
you go.
So you could be like, you know, just driving in your automated car down the road and just
like make sure that your robot has received the deposit.
What the heck is that?
That is so annoying and it's gone.
That's good.
Anyways, go to freshbooks.com slash wan show and enter wan in the how did you hear about
a section when you sign up for a free trial, just so you know.
Also Squarespace, no slogan, not saying anything about different stuff.
They have 24 seven live chat support.
If you want to set up your website or like buy a domain through them, they have over
I think about 200 top level domains.
So like dot whatever the heck you want.
They have responsive design for the website.
So if you view it on a massive variety of different devices, it'll look cool and different
various configurations.
They have commerce modules so you can sell things.
Did you make a cover page?
Did you say that?
No, I was going to do that one next.
So if you need a new job because you couldn't think of something to do on your own and you
trained in all these Linda skills, but you haven't found a job yet, you can use your
cover page module on Squarespace to show yourself off and be like, I am better than an automated
robot because I know how to use photo shops.
Hopefully your browser has spell checks so you can fix photo shops and make it Photoshop.
Anyways, you can start a trial today with no credit card required and build your website
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Thank you Squarespace for supporting the land show.
With your continued support, we will hopefully not be replaced by robots, although Nick might
like that because the robots probably wouldn't screw up the sponsor spots.
But then I would get replaced by robot probably as well.
I liked how you said you can make a website or a blog about your cat and then you didn't
say dog.
Because your dog is confident in itself.
Or like other stuff.
I was like, I thought he was going to just rap like a Squarespace rap.
Oh I probably should have.
Or like whatever that theme song that they did a couple years ago.
Squarespace started today.
I don't remember the whole thing, I don't know.
That was dropped super, oh man, Squarespace needs to get a slogan.
They probably dropped it because you made fun of it, let's be honest.
Really?
But then they should have kept you should or build it beautiful because we made it awesome.
Monster cat.
Monster cat hype.
That's not live so you can't like see it happening.
I know.
Okay.
I didn't mean the show's not live.
I just want to clarify that before people start going all conspiracy theory.
I've showed my screen on screen, look you can see the like date and time and stuff.
Dan Bullacore said we must stop technology this has gone too far destroy all the robots
exclamation, exclamation, exclamation.
That's a little aggressive.
I don't think destroying all the robots is the right idea.
Robots by the way, I'm on your side.
Speaking of which, being on the side of the robots and whatever else, the first Tesla
driver was caught sleeping with autopilot on.
Have you heard of this?
No.
So he was crashed in the car.
Like okay, saying crashed is the wrong thing to say.
I was like he crashed?
No, that's not okay to say in this context.
He was zonked out in the car.
He was asleep.
That's what I was going to say.
So he's asleep in the car.
You can see on this video it's vertically filmed and stuff.
He's out.
Literally.
You can see that.
Unless he has like one eye open and is just driving like this.
Super doubted.
It's extremely unlikely.
Super doubted.
So he's out and you can see autopilot driving him.
He's stopped there because traffic slowed down and he picks up again and he's just scooting
along in traffic.
No big deal.
It's tight traffic.
It's not like this is super fast speeds or anything.
This car is almost stopping again.
Just keeps rolling.
Amazing.
So the guy fell asleep in the car and autopilot saved him.
Which is like not really a feature.
Don't do that.
But it's pretty cool.
Well maybe he had autopilot on and he's just been sleeping in his car on his way home from
work for three months and nobody's caught him yet.
And it's just getting better and better and learning the whole time.
Maybe.
He's a national hero.
That's cool.
He's teaching autopilot how to be sentient.
I could be super wrong.
I don't think you can give autopilot like a map.
I think it just drives down the road.
So he's gonna like wake up super far down.
I could be wrong.
Someone in a twitch chat is gonna correct me.
He like leaves Vancouver.
He ends up in like Kelowna.
That's like four hours away.
Yeah.
Someone in twitch chat is gonna correct me.
I'm waiting for twitch chat to catch up.
Google maps.
I would totally do that in traffic.
You shouldn't do that.
You should not do that.
That's not like a thing yet.
Anchorman 2.
What does that have to do with anything?
I have no idea Ashley.
He'll wake up when the Tesla runs out of batteries.
That is incorrect.
Okay.
You're wrong.
Okay, so I guess you can put a map in because people are very angry.
That's fine.
It probably would run out of batteries.
Some people are saying that it's fake.
Which is a little bit disappointing.
Knowing the internet these days.
They say everything is fake.
Yeah, but knowing the internet these days a lot of it is.
It could be fake.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I wouldn't be super surprised.
Let's get our tin foil hats on.
It was done by the oil companies.
Maybe it was.
Actually that would be a really bad thing for them to do because it's kind of promotion
for how awesome autopilot is.
Yeah, but at the same time they could spin it as doing PR releases about Tesla drivers
are totally idiots.
That was really bad.
I need to go.
I'm going to go appease the Twitch chat real quick.
You're going to appease the Twitch chat real quick?
What does that mean?
What are you doing?
What is it?
I don't get it.
Oh.
Come here.
Come here.
I'm going to try to find a Dennis appropriate topic.
You're the co-host now.
Way to walk in front of the rain.
What are you doing?
He just wanted to show his butt off.
This was a mistake.
No it wasn't.
He just wanted to show his butt off.
It's going to work really well.
What do you think about Twitter relaxing the 140 character limit?
There's still a 140 character limit but like at tagging people and posting photos and gifs
and videos and polls and quoting people's tweets and various media will not count against
the character limit.
I hate the limit thing.
You hate the limit thing.
It just gets everyone's grammar worse because I have to tie you to you and to Ann.
So everyone's grammar is going to look stupid.
So I hate that.
So are they putting more...
So they're not getting rid of the character limit.
The character limit is still exactly the same.
But like tagging someone in your tweet, putting in a like photo or video or poll or quoting
someone's tweet or anything like that won't count against the limit.
That's good.
So basically what you say will be 140 characters instead of all the junk inside of it.
I wish they don't count space.
So 140 characters just for like the various words and stuff.
Yeah.
So they can count space and comment.
I think like within reason that could be cool.
Like if you do more than one space, it counts against it and if you do more than three periods,
it should count against it in a row because you can do the dot dot dot.
They need to have responsibility for everyone's grammar.
So they need to open that.
I think the thing is people are just going to say more at that point and then just chop
up their grammar again anyways.
Whatever.
Okay.
That's fine.
My grammar is not good.
No, dude.
Everyone's grammar sucks because of Twitter.
That is a thing.
You're not wrong.
Pre-recorded chat.
How do you pre-record the chat?
I don't know, man.
When are they...
Whoa, this got changed.
When are they doing that?
It's cool.
Updating the thing literally as we go.
So at names no longer count towards the 140 character count.
Media attachments.
So when you attach things, it doesn't count towards it.
Retweeting and quoting a tweet of your own doesn't count towards it.
You know when you want to tweet to someone, but you want to make it public so you put
a period at the beginning?
Have you ever done that?
No.
Okay.
Well, that thing, you don't have to worry about that anymore.
That's solved.
I don't know.
I'm trying to find another Dennis topic.
Yeah.
Are these too hard for me?
No, I just don't think you'll care.
What would Dennis care about?
Hello everyone.
There was a marijuana social network.
Do I care?
Maybe.
That.
Called Mass Roots, which was supposed to be a Facebook for pot and it was apparently not
allowed to join the NASDAQ exchange.
The Denver based social network has 775,000 users from the 24 states where marijuana is
at least to some degree legal, I guess.
Including states where it's legal recreationally, which is like two, right?
Another one just passed or something.
Washington, Colorado, and I think maybe Alaska, why do people want to call that?
Okay.
So maybe three states that it's legal in.
Mass Roots said that it meets the criteria for listing on NASDAQ.
It has a $40 million market capitalization value.
It has well over 300 shareholders through over the counter markets.
NASDAQ's denial has sent Mass Roots off exchange shares down 18%, which is actually pretty
aggressive.
What is marijuana social network?
What does it do?
I actually have no idea.
They say that it's supposed to be the Facebook for pot.
So I guess it's here.
I guess we can just go.
So it's like a forum for people who do 420.
Who do 420.
Yes.
Yes.
It's a forum for people who do 420.
Apparently you have to be at least 21 years old or a valid medical marijuana patient or
RA.
Okay.
There we go.
I guess I can't click this.
No, because then it would be showing it to the whole stream.
Is it?
Why wouldn't it be?
I don't know.
But does that mean I'm a bad person?
You're promoting the marijuana?
Yeah, I don't know.
Because I'm not telling people to do so, but I would be showing them a website that's behind
a...
I don't know what Trino said about it.
I don't know.
But then the stream is going into the states in California where it's not legal, right?
It's legal if you have a permit, I'm assuming.
I see like pot magazines being sold hopefully in mainstream bookstores in states where it's
very illegal.
Okay, so let's just confirm it.
And it brings us to nothing.
There's an app.
Join for editor's choice.
Buds.
Wow.
I guess the like friends feed is called Buds.
Oh dear.
About us.
Login.
The, okay.
The homepage where it says login has like advertise, blog, business and investors, which
is very weird for like an actual social network.
But anyways, that's fine.
Let's click on the about us.
Oh dear.
Shop.
Okay.
So they're also trying to sell things.
Let's look at the brand.
Marijuana is super illegal in Taiwan.
Is it?
Super illegal?
Yeah.
Not just regular.
You go to jail.
Beyond regular illegal?
Yeah.
Compared to some...
Do you get like branded with a M for marijuana?
Here?
Yeah.
Probably here.
Right there?
Okay.
No.
No.
It's just as, they think it's as bad as some other kind of pills, drugs, like I don't know.
Like the bathrooms.
What's that called?
Like cocaine or meth and stuff.
Like heroin.
Ketamine.
Ketamine.
Ketamine.
Yeah.
Right.
Wow.
Smoke social.
I guess, I don't know.
You don't go to jail if you take ketamine.
Ketamine.
Ketamine in Taiwan.
But you go to jail if you smoke.
Really?
Yes.
You go to jail.
Yes.
Extremely backwards.
Okay.
I'm assuming considering you can, there's your buds tab which I'm assuming is your friends
and then there's the local tab.
I'm assuming that you can use it for like smoking weed get togethers.
So this app will have like a fairly normal amount of traffic and then it'll be April
20th and the whole app will just crash because way too much traffic and then it'll be April
21st and everything will come back down and then it'll go back to normal amounts of traffic
again.
What does Twitch chat think about that idea?
I don't know.
Let's see what Twitch chat has to say about this.
Kids don't do drugs.
Yep.
Yes.
I'm going to compute X.
Stoner Paradise.
Weed get together.
Yeah.
I think that's what it is.
I wonder if one of their first users was Snoop Dogg.
Probably.
Yeah.
Snoop Dogg's just like, yeah, I'll run like this whole thing for you if you want.
Someone in chat just said in all capital letters, I like dick.
Yeah.
I was going to say that.
That's super helpful.
I didn't read that out.
For what we're currently talking about.
I didn't read that out.
Maybe they can post that on the weed social network and someone can be like, let's do
an exchange here.
I'll give you some, some weed and wait, no, I'd have to go the other end.
You give me some weed and I'll, you know, what facilitate, I wonder if that would be
prostitution.
Would that be prostitution?
I mean, if it's completely consensual through both people.
Yeah, but so is regular prostitution.
And if you're sharing it, it's not technically a trade or exchange.
We just sharing things that you actually don't think it is anyway, because I think it has
to be like actual pecuniary compensation.
I think, I don't know.
I think it needs to be actual money.
Exchanging weed for, for access to penis.
Is this one of those things that sounds illegal, but probably.
I have no idea.
I really wonder though.
This, this would be very interesting.
Anyways, I guess it's time to move on in topics.
Let's see here.
What's some interesting stuff?
So much of this sucks.
Way to put really dumb topics in the list, Colton.
I'm just roasting Colton because I didn't approve any of this before we started.
So he's like, apparently Cryorig has announced a new Mac Pro inspired case.
So everyone's just ignored the fact that it's basically literally just a garbage can.
So enable system makers and enthusiasts to build Mac Pro style gaming computers.
So we're probably going to review this so that Linus can make a holy shit episode.
Let's see.
It's a cylinder designed by gamers, kind of, and inspired by the Mac Pro.
I guess it would technically be designed by gamers if those people gamed, ah, see, they
have a 1080 in there.
It's a pretty efficient way to make a small low volume computer.
I guess.
We should make the whole thing look like a, okay, we should do a modding video where we
make the whole thing look like like a big red fist.
Let me just give it to Dennis and call it the power tower like a demonic looking red
fist.
Transmitter, transmitter, transmitter, what are you guys talking about, it's called Transmitter.
electronic power tower, what about what were you guys talking about this off camera or
something?
No, remember 3D Pictionary?
Yeah.
3D Pictionary.
Power power really loudly.
Oh, I never watched it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
I have no idea what's going on with my extension thing going on.
Cold come in.
Heat go out.
Very helpful.
Good.
Yes.
The top looks kind of cool.
It looks like one of those ginormous drills that they used to drill like underground.
Oh, like a tunnel boring machine.
Yeah.
It kind of does.
Yeah.
So you might be able to tunnel bore with your computer case, which is always a helpful feature.
So it supports SFX power supplies, mini ITX motherboards.
It weighs five kilograms as dimensions in terms of width, height, and depth is 226 millimeters,
378.5 millimeters, 205 millimeters.
It has one three and a half inch drive bay, which is actually kind of impressive.
I didn't realize that.
And it has one or two, two and a half inch drive bay.
So I'm assuming that three and a half inch is just both.
It supports CPU cooler dimensions of up to 72 to 82 millimeters in height.
I don't know why there's like a range there and why it's not just 82 millimeters in height.
Anyways, graphics cards length is 280 millimeters and power supply length is 130 millimeters.
You are probably going to have to take note of like all of those dimensions and they will
probably be quite important because it's pretty compact.
The external connectors are power, audio, USB 3.0 and display.
But that's just for the case.
So obviously if you put a motherboard in there, you would have more IO.
Is this something that interests you?
What is it?
You like that more?
Oh, that's cool.
It is pretty cool.
Wait, the case has a display port connector.
It says display.
I don't know.
Whatever that means.
It's probably like an LCD display.
I don't think we saw it on here.
Maybe it's this like whitish thing, maybe that's an LCD display.
Because the motherboard and the graphics card aren't in there yet, so they can't claim those.
Oh, it's like that thing that the Phoenix has.
Yeah, I think so.
The Taku, neat, slim, holds your display.
That's actually pretty cool.
It's like a computer tray.
This might be a new announcement as well.
I'm not sure.
I've never seen it before personally.
It looks awesome.
I kind of like this one more.
The drawer one?
Yeah.
It's super basic because we've had like slim tower computers that lay flat for a long time.
But I actually really like how you can pull it out as if it's on a tray.
That's super cool.
Because we did a desk PC, but you have to go down to change things if you need to.
Yeah, and you don't necessarily have to like, again, this has been done.
I don't think the pullout tray necessarily has been done, but a flat computer isn't exactly
new.
So you can strap this onto the bottom of your desk, which would make it super cool.
I like the implementation that they have, which is where it's just a stand for your
monitor.
That's actually pretty sweet because your monitor, if I remember correctly, the middle
of your monitor is supposed to be right at your eye height.
So like this monitor that we have here, which its top is here, is clearly too low for me
because that's the top of the monitor.
So the top should be like way up here and the middle should be here and it's not so
yeah, the Sentra, yeah, exactly.
So like, it's helpful to prop monitors up on things.
I don't know.
I think that's pretty cool.
What do you think, Dennis?
What one is your favorite?
Those two?
Yeah.
I like the drawer one.
The drawer one?
Not the cylinder one?
Yeah.
Not the power tower?
The drawer one.
I like that thing.
When you put it on the desk, you can open it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tower one.
Well, I always think that kind of design is kind of like a garbage can.
Although now it doesn't like look like it dips in because the heat sinks at the top.
That's a good looking one.
Rays out of the top and look like fins, so it probably won't really look like a garbage
can anymore.
Yeah.
I prefer flat thing, yeah.
You heard it here first.
Dennis here prefers it flat, not round.
Doesn't like the round, really just curve.
You like curves?
Curves.
You like curves.
Curves.
You like curves.
Dennis likes curves.
Okay.
Good to know.
Anyways, are you excited for Computex?
Yeah.
We're leaving tonight.
Let's talk about that for a second.
Tell me about the school that you told me about.
Oh, so in Taiwan, there's an esports school.
Yeah.
There's a professional team and they have them as a coach.
So you can go there.
You can sign up there for free.
But I don't know if they're still doing that like probably two years ago, a year ago.
Do you know what it's called?
It's called Spider Esports.
And okay, so you sign up on every Wednesday.
They have like two days or three days training.
So you have to go there and sleep there.
They have a dorm and you can shower and they have all the rows.
And your parents need to sign a contract too, saying your kids is staying there for like
two or three days training.
Wow.
So did you find it?
No, I can't find it.
No, don't put Taiwan.
Don't put Taiwanese.
Spider Esports School comes up with schools from Norway.
Don't worry about it.
Just keep going.
Oh, that would be cool to show.
I'll try to keep looking, but you can sign.
So you can sign up for free and they have two or three days training.
They teach you how to play Counter Strike and the other kind of games.
And they have all the PCs and teachers for you, but I don't know if they still do that
now because I tried to contact them, but no one answered.
Did you find their website?
Yeah, but they don't have phone number.
I downloaded their sign up form.
Oh, that one.
That's a Wikipedia.
Oh, here?
Yeah.
Can you... not that one.
Not that one.
One sec guys.
Okay.
This?
No.
Okay, so there's another school.
There's another two or three universities in Taiwan.
They have Esports.
You can major in Esports in the university.
That's super weird.
Yeah.
So you get an Esports degree.
Yes.
Would that like to become a coach or to become a player?
Player.
Player.
And they do their team in their school because Esports is getting really good now in Taiwan.
The government kind of start focusing the development of Esports now.
Yeah.
The new government like to do new things.
So we have a lot of Esports things going on in Taiwan.
If you want to learn or join a team, you can go to Taiwan.
They have a lot of try out you can do like every week I think.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Getting a degree and being an Esports player seems ridiculous to me because like university
and post secondary education degrees in general are constantly sort of losing their value
compared to experience because of how easy it is to show your experience these days due
to how connected the internet is.
It's easy to show how much of something you've done or prove how much of something you've
done.
So I think.
Okay.
It's a very general statement.
In certain positions, being able to show your experience is much more effective than showing
your degree and other positions you need a degree.
I don't see Esports being a thing where you have to show your degree.
I feel like you'd be like, hey, look at my KD ratio, look at this demo reel, play a game
with me.
Watch.
Sorry?
This address.
Sf.wai.com.
.tw
Oh.
So I can show you guys the thing.
Okay.
So that's their website.
So this is their website, Uzi.
They have an advertisement for an Uzi on the front of their thing.
Sf.wai.com.
Uzi.
Sf.wai.com.
What's that?
Oh, that's it.
Special Forces.
This is only an online game.
Special Forces.
Is this like a specific game that they play?
Not that one.
Not this one.
Sf.wai.com.tw.
Yeah, this is it.
Oh, but why it's different?
Because you're on the mobile site.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sam.
Spider Sam.
Yeah.
He's awesome.
I'm going to click on him.
Let's go, it's slow because it's coming from Taiwan.
Does it actually matter if you go to foreign, like different countries' websites?
Sort of.
They could have caching servers in like different areas and stuff.
I'm assuming they don't.
Let me see if I can.
Cool.
So I'm assuming this is like them in class.
D.E.S.L.
That looks like a classroom.
They are saying like, okay, his father support him to reach his dream.
So his parent worry about he would just abandon his school if he's doing e-sport.
And they support him.
But they're worried about him leaving.
So he joined to the team.
Okay.
If you go to this school, do you still take normal classes?
No, that's not like formal class.
Like not formal university.
This is like extracurricular activities.
Yeah, it's like a learning center somewhere.
That's the place, I think.
So there's a school called Taipei City College, Taipei City Technology or Technology University
or something.
They have a program you can take, e-sport.
Very cool.
Right.
You can go check these guys out, but they haven't responded to us or whatever.
I'm trying really hard to reach them, but hey, you can get a fun buddy.
That's cool.
Yeah.
You ever gotten a fun buddy off his website?
What else we're going to check?
We might go check some internet cafe in Taiwan.
We have a lot of internet cafe.
They have gaming PC and all the set up for you and for a really cheap price.
They do like hourly and you can stay for probably like four bucks for two hours or I don't remember
for the, just really cheap or you can stay there overnight, just open 24 hours and they
have a shower room for you if you need a shower and they have meals and they have.
So there's like, there's relatively common stories of people that just stay at these
internet cafes for extremely extended periods of time.
And I don't mean like, Oh my God, 26 hours.
I mean like, like weeks and stuff.
Yeah.
And so a lot of high school students or junior high school students, when they after school,
they just go there, go to internet cafe.
And when I was in junior high school, our teachers, they banned people to go there.
What?
They don't.
Yeah.
How do they do that?
They go.
Yeah.
Once you leave the school, aren't you on your own time?
Well, they go to internet cafe to catch you if you go there.
So if you're not studying, they will contact you and you stay there for long.
And they say that they think internet cafe is just as bad as like a nightclub.
So you shouldn't go there.
Are they going to nightclubs to find students?
That sounds so obscene.
They think people are addicted to games in Taiwan.
So the teachers banned their students.
Not just in Taiwan, but everywhere people are addicted to games.
Yeah.
It's kind of ridiculous.
That's not their business.
Yeah.
That is nuts.
That's their parents have to do that.
Not them.
Yeah.
So, but now in Taiwan, there are so many internet cafe.
That's cool though.
We only have like, I never seen one here.
Do we have one?
There used to be one in Langley and then there was a fire in it and it's gone.
Oh.
And it never came back.
I think there's one in Vancouver and there was one on Vancouver Island when I used to
live there.
Other than that, I don't know of any.
It's not really a thing here.
What was I just going to say?
We're also going to some street where they sell a bunch of computer stuff.
Oh yeah.
We're going to, we're trying to go to a place called Guanghua Mall.
They have all the PC stuff.
And in that area, outside of the mall on the street, there are all PCs, cameras, technology
stuff, all the stores.
Yeah.
And there's also another place, it's called Underground Street Market underneath the Taipei
Main Station.
There are all the gaming, not just gaming, like just console gaming and animation.
A lot of people gather there.
Animation?
Animation, yeah.
Oh wow.
Japanese animation.
Oh!
Post play.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, people stay there gaming.
You can see people just sit there, a lot of people just playing game.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Anyways, I think that's it for the show because Dennis and I have to pack and leave to Taiwan
like very soon.
Mine takes off in like 8 hours or something.
7 and a half?
7 and a half.
7 and a half hours.
So we've got to go.
Thanks for watching and we'll see you next time.
I'm going to actually remember to do this thing.
There we go.
There will very possibly be an after party but I have to pack first so it won't be immediately.
I know that much.
We have to leave like really soon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if there is one it will only be for a very short period of time and I have to pack first.
We have to leave at 11.
No we don't.
Oh, we have to leave earlier than that.
Oh geez.
Anyways, bye.