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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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Cuz like you know all the way over I still don't really fit. That's what she said
Yeah, it's what had show time and we managed to get a that's what she said before the proper intro for the in
Right at the start we are fast
Like that you're just like that's you're thinking you're thinking. Oh, it's about just and it's over. Yeah
Okay, we've got a great show for you guys today record speed um first we get to admit that we were
not only
slightly wrong, but also
Slightly ignorant and a little bit dumb, so that'll be coming later
Which I wasn't able to research at all
Because I can't look at this yeah, yeah, no, that's that's fine. Don't worry. I got this thanks um
um
HTC's keyboard is
Showing ads to users of their phones apparently it might not really be their fault
But it's because of something or whatever whatever we're gonna do it later
So that's brilliant this just in an Asus Threadripper motherboard there are now unboxing pictures
It looks awesome. I've held it. Oh it feels awesome
I'm sure it does and the ROG crosshair 6 extreme has been announced dun dun dun
So yeah, I guess I guess roll the a drum
Dang it. I don't have twitch open yet nerd
I believe that is pretty much the definition of a rectus, and I got
Hold on I'm sure we have sponsors, but I have to post that the WAN show is live on social media
That's what I usually do well. Thank you to savage turkey
Pookie, fresh mugs, mac wild dog, different content
Jingles are a lost art. We should uh we should make another album oh
Okay, I've wanted to do a non Christmas themed album for a while
I know, but I didn't we learn our lesson last time. No it did really well, okay?
Well there are different ways to learn your lesson. Okay, so so for those of you not familiar
It must wow it was over a year and a long time ago
Over a year and a half ago. We had the hair brained idea. I don't remember whose idea it was
Was it you?
Was it me? Was it me? I'm not taking full credit for it
I'll take partial credit for it other people were complicit in this. I was more than complicit
Yeah, so then this was a thing that we as a team created my idea, but I definitely championed
Yeah, okay, so we created a Christmas album
We took a bunch of classic Christmas songs, and we rewrote the lyrics with
technology as as sort of a theme and
It um it was awful
yeah, like the lyrics were actually not as bad as you might expect because I
Took what some other people wrote and made very few alterations because they were quite good
Or not completely redid because they were done by Colton. Yeah, yeah, John and I sat down
Like together outside of work hours and wrote a few songs that were like pretty solid yeah
I believe Nick's Nick lights were pretty good. Nick did a few yeah Colton's were terrible
They were really bad. I was like do you even English bro? They were a little rough, so I redid those ones
But anyway, and then without any rehearsals nacho mist which like that's a reputable name right there
Says that it was actually fantastic. Okay. Thanks nacho miss and we actually sold quite a few of them
So I was I was getting to that part um
Are you checking which I'm gonna you're checking aren't you which might mean that we're gonna sell none of them next time because people have
Now seen what we can do yeah, so so anyway
So we we did I think it was like nine or ten songs something like that so we without any
Rehearsals and without any screening so no matter who they were if they were on staff at Linus media group
they had to sing for the Christmas album and
We sold how many of them did we sold nine hundred and twenty four
for a grand total of
172 dollars, so we not even close to made back the time we spent on it
Nope, not here's also ad revenue
Which I can look up for you right now, oh, I don't know if we can say it sure yeah
Let's let's I don't think anyone's gonna care. Okay. You know what we may have actually turned off
Monetization we may have turned off monetization because we wanted as many people as possible
To watch the other video advertising it so we released it as something that
Almost looked like a joke. No we did we monetized it so we released this video that almost looked like a joke and
And then we're way too serious about it, and then you actually could buy it
Like that this is this is real. This is not a joke at all
Look at Ed back there
My favorite thing this whole time is looking at Colton's face
This if you see like the behind-the-scenes Linus has just been grilling Colton the whole time so Colton's just sitting on the couch
I don't even think he's singing like half the time just completely deadpan. It's great
Another interesting thing the reason why I know that this sold fairly well is that I get emailed every single time someone buys it
Every time so like every few months, it's not that common anymore because it's been so long right yeah
Someone will see this in the download section and just be like what so let's buy it for fun
So we brought in another four hundred dollars heck from the two hundred seventy five thousand views on that video
So that's over three grand man, so that makes you one now another one
Well that was back in in 2015 we probably get more views now
Okay, so tell you what we've matured as a professional
I'm going I'm going full-on bean-spiller here
We are not doing another album like in that form
You don't want to you don't want to spill it. I'm not gonna tell oh no. I want to make another album
No, no, we're not doing another album all right, but
There will be some time in I'm not gonna put it on the screen
I'm not gonna put it on the screen
But there will be some time in I'm not gonna promise a time frame other than like in the next few months
Because it's a fairly large project, and we want to do it right there will be a tech themed like fairly high production value
Music video coming from Linus tech tips
In that time frame which if it does well enough might end up being able to go into an album if we do enough of them
Okay, have you heard the song no? There's a song recorded already that the the the actual melody
Okay, no exists already with some placeholder lyrics very placeholder, but like
It's pretty catchy. I haven't heard it. It's pretty catch is this
You bet okay. Yeah, so it's this is something that
That that we've been talking about actually for probably about three years
Well before the Christmas up well before we were in this office. Yeah, so that's that's definitely a thing. That's happening
Other things that are happening so the 16k gaming setup I
Hope I'm not really spoiling anything, but I just came back from filming the final video
for that so
That's that's coming very soon as well
That's awesome, and no it is not a baby parody as much as I would love to do that a baby
baby, baby
Baby, yeah, no, it's not that all right
So I
Don't know what just happened there. I don't know wow I don't know what this
I don't know what this is but actually where this conversation took place was on my personal Twitter
So the only way I'm going to be able to the only way up, so let's kick the show off with me kind of
Admitting that I may have made a bit of a mistake so first of all there was the news from tech power-up from last week
Intel says AMD epic processors glued together in official slide deck and to be clear
That was far from the only thing wrong with this slide deck we we went kind of
We went kind of ham on Intel slide deck being unprofessional childish
undignified you pretty much name it and
I'm not backpedaling on the bulk of that but
There's also a post on the forum here
This is this was posted by
Johnny Johnny Corporal tech and
And AMD basically produced a couple slides going like actually okay, you know we have some partners
Their partner list isn't as long, but at least it doesn't have any duplicate entries on it
So I'm gonna give them credit for the partners that they do list are pretty big deal. Yeah
But there was something that I did kind of screw up because I was not familiar with this particular
technical term so
dr. Cutress from a non tech
Made a point. I can't believe he watches the wan show. I don't know why he would um. I like that. Thank you
Yeah, thanks, Ian. Hi. I made a point of messaging me via DM
FYI he's so polite was it okay? He's so British is it accurate though
Uh if Ian says so I'm kind of going to see let me say it's accurate
So here's what he's saying a term is different than it being accurate. Here's what he said word for word
FYI glued together is a technical term, okay?
Infinity fabric is a glue logic fabric and a common
Semiconductor micro architecture term and he linked me to a Wikipedia article because while he is a very polite person
He's British that doesn't mean he can't get a little snarky. He's British
You'll see it in a lot of semiconductor research papers to deal with data movement around silicon or between chips
Examples include PCI Express NV link etc in case you were unaware
I feel like you and thanks for the shoutout. I feel like it was being used I
Feel like the way they were using it in the context of all the other slides was still pretty
B mode yeah um and it can it can be a technical term and that actually makes sense that it's I'm not surprised at all
I thought it was incorrect because I
Thought their form of link. I it wasn't applicable to that yeah, but I think it's still BS
but but there you go, so
I'm backpedaling on the outrage over saying that
Epic is glued together
You heard it here first, but I'm not backpedaling over the rest of the nonsense that was in that slide deck
I'm still a little bit for the outrage on that comment. It was structured in a very
angry
aggressive way I
Don't know all right
speaking of outrage
HTC's keyboard
Yeah is showing ads to its users. I mean oh, okay, okay here we go
HTC is working on a fix so what's the update? I love it when they use the term fix
To describe something that wasn't broken okay to be fair for this situation
Touch pal is the keyboard and HTC uses touch pal keyboard
So what HTC thinks is or what people think is going on here is that touch pal?
Ran an update that started serving ads through the keyboard and HTC was like whoa what the heck and
Is now trying to stop this from happening?
So I don't think it was like HTC actively doing anything
I just think it was HTC losing control of something that they here's what I don't understand
Why are they using touch pal keyboard? I don't know I?
Don't know I can that part has continued to be confusing for me
Swift keys free
Yeah, well Swift key might be free in the context of an end-user downloading it
but Swift key might not be free to a
A skin maker wanting to right, but but Google keyboard Google keyboard is fine, and it's free like
It's not my favorite. I don't use it
I don't like it
But I don't not like it any more than any other piece of trash keyboard Samsung's is like touch pal terrible
I've never used touch pal. I'm not a fan of touch pal. Okay, yeah
um they're they're they're they're all pretty garbo and the only reason I like Swift key is because there's a few little
Customizations that I make to it that make it very very usable
So I shorten the long press so you can get it all your special characters without switching keyboards
Not all but the vast majority of them, so it makes it faster to use I don't I don't flow type
So some people's tell me that Swift keys flow is not very good. Don't care. Don't flow. I don't do that either um and
And
That's that's pretty much it actually that's pretty much all yeah
I'm at the point where using other keyboards feels weird, but the prediction of Swift key is
Fantastic like I can basically look away and kind of like mash it my keyboard
It's gonna be like did you mean?
I'm like yeah pretty much if I'm on a just creepy that I don't often use I like can't type anymore
I know because I know we've all turned like helpless
I I like definitely run typos pretty much all the time and Swift keys just like I'll do all this
Everything will be fine. Yeah another creepy thing in that same vein right now is Google's auto predictions for email
Have you seen that I've seen it on?
I've seen it on my on my mobile. I only get it on my phone and then on
Here send me an email
It's gonna take a sec yeah, well no maybe I can hold on maybe I got one here you probably don't know here
Yeah, yeah, I got one so on here
I get all kinds of stuff so I can click reply so I can use voice or I can say okay
Yes, no thumbs up smiley sad heart lol. Thanks. Got it done nice. I don't know what why what's up?
Okay, give me a moment on my way sounds good big happy face very sad face and a heart
This is too many options I know
By the time I scroll through all that I could take my phone out in the actual app. There's just three usually um
But like I don't know that I actually like it because it started and but because it's so creepy that it's starting to get really
good
Like it started. I was even talking to John about it
It has started suggesting responses that sound more like something that I would actually say oh
Oh mine hasn't really gotten any better. I don't use it mine's gotten better, huh, and I've rarely used it
I think it's just farming the data from my gmail. That's very interesting like I got one that was like okay great. That's awesome
and I was like
That's exactly what I was gonna say
So the next step is when it doesn't even bother asking you to press the button just does it
It's just like boop you can delete it if you want, but it's already there. Yeah
I mean pretty epic
All right, how we got here, but I think we're now on a seuss thread Ripper mobo and yeah
So this is from video cards
calm so
Honestly, there's not a whole lot to it
The only thing that was missed, so I've seen the board already the only thing that was missing was the accessories
But now we're able to have a look at what is included. So there's some kind of PCI express riser card
I'm gonna guess that's like m.2 or something. What is the point of doing an unboxing like this and leaving all the stuff in the
Packaging did they really do that? Okay. So yeah, here's an m.2 riser doodad
four-way sli bridge
Why I guess if this is like
Like a just for benchmarking type of product. It's pretty high-end. So might make sense. I'm super surprised
We've got like a GPU support bracket. It looks like we've got
ginormo Wi-Fi antennas, so this is gonna have like a D Wi-Fi I think
Big pager stickers is a piece a Ethernet card
This is what I don't get you know
Why and this is coming from someone who?
Actually made
His mark like and and built his career on
unboxing videos
Why did unboxing videos ever need to exist when you could just have this? I mean, yes
This is sort of a crap job. They did of it. But like if you could just have I think it's
It's harder to do like you can do a really really crap job with a video unboxing and it can still be better than this
You know what I'm saying, but I can see like I've watched a lot of I've watched a lot
Yeah, but it doesn't necessarily mean no, I'm not really look how much light glint is on these frickin pack
I mean, this is a this one literally has the anti-static on you. Can't tell what it is. That's useless. This is literally useless
This is also useless. So is that is that a box of something? I can't tell all these other things have light glint on
I can't tell what the vast majority of these. Okay
Okay, but assuming this picture wasn't taken by like but there's a point if it's a video it'll be moving
You'll probably be able to see better what it is. So you'll be able to okay
So you're you are you really making the argument? I think hold on. Hold on
You're telling me that video is better because you could watch frame by frame and maybe see the like
Yes, where you could I have for like really weird niche products. I have watched terrible like
Cellphone in the hand one hand
unboxing videos of it to try to figure out what's actually going on and
Like kind of scrubbed through it so that I could see better because it was that bad and it has answered questions that I've been looking
for
I've had it work for me. Okay
All right. I'll let it slide on this one
Yeah, I'm also announced is the crosshair six extreme so
They're they're finally going full high-end on am4
so RGB lighting
Blah blah blah for more than a decade it really it really does speak to the industry's confidence in
Ryzen, yeah that we're finally seeing truly high-end boards because I would have AMD fans
complain that
Like all the good boards are for Intel. Yeah, and it's like yeah because
Other than like a handful of people who are completely blind
to the products that exist other than them anybody else
with you know
200 plus dollars to spend on a board is
Buying an Intel chip right now
Sorry
and the motherboard manufacturers, they don't just they don't just know this from like a
They have an ounce of sense and can read a benchmark chart
They know this from a they are seeing actual real sales numbers
Yeah as AMD's lineup gets more and more and more irrelevant
At this point in time if I was building a new system, I would be very heavily looking at AMD
which isn't something that I've been able to say for a very long time and
Seeing this kind of variety in the products that are available seeing someone like Asus go. Okay. Sure
Yeah, we've got the confidence to put the R&D behind what will probably be a 300 to 400 dollar board
US
To put the R&D behind it because we know that we're gonna get enough of even this kind of high-end product
Moved off the shelf that we're gonna recoup that cost and maybe even make some money to see that
Is really confidence inspiring. I am I am just stoked
Yeah, I don't really know I don't really know what else to say about that
I don't necessarily have the same confidence in Vega
You're gonna have to wait for you're gonna have to wait for the video to see the full kind of rant
But frontier edition is like far more of a piece of garbage
Than other reviews necessarily indicated
So our our review of it is basically like this is this is an early access game
like
This is this is paying more
for like
Access to
The select DLC so that you can have the buggy gaming experience
And then not even get the like expansion pack that you then have to go and buy anyway
That's when they actually fix it like
It's a bad
product
I'm really excited for that video. Yeah, it's it's gonna be one of those ones where like
the vast majority of the people who watch it are gonna be sensible people who can
Look at the comment section and there's gonna be horrible. So there's gonna be so I'm talking thumbs up thumbs down
okay, yeah, so there's gonna be the the the vast majority of like sensible people who can look at at
facts objectively and you can look at benchmarks objectively and who
don't leave a comment because they just aren't that invested in it and
Then there's gonna be everybody else who engages with this video and it's like
Mmm, and that's exactly what those people sound like
Sorry in the other side of the pool because you're talking about people that would dislike something because you dislike something that is from AMD
Even from the other side of the pool. We were just talking about how cool this stuff is this
Oh, I guess they can't see it on screen. But on Linus's screen right now this AMD stuff
And someone in the chat in twitch chat. I saw just scroll through all caps everything AMD. No, no
No further information her cut just this is my opinion I
Don't think that's cool cuz AMD I didn't ask. Yeah. Thanks, I guess
I
Don't know. There's this there's people on each side. There's there's Intel fanboys. There's AMD fanboys
There's a fanboys and everybody hates each other. Yeah
Now the whole chat is just AMD. No AMD. No. All right. Thank you. Thank you everyone. That's wonderful. Appreciate it
alright, uh
Next in the news. So this was originally posted by Johnny corporal tech on the forum and our original article here is from
CDC dot CA the dark web's largest illegal marketplace founded by a Canadian
I didn't know that
shut down by the u.s.
All right, so let's get into this one a little bit
So the US Justice Department has officially shut down the dark web marketplace alpha Bay a site
Ten times as large as Silk Road accused of allowing hundreds of thousands of people to buy and sell drugs
firearms
Computer hacking tools and other illicit goods because remember there's lots of illegal stuff
besides like
Drugs and guns. Yeah, I like for example
Like a cell phone signal jammer. Yeah would be the kind of thing that totally definitely exists
Super definitely is everywhere, but is
illegal to own or operate in
Pretty much any developed nation. I would think yeah, definitely Canada
Yeah
So so that's the kind of thing that could end up on a site like this the operation included the arrest of suspected alpha Bay founder
Alexander kazoo kazoo kazoo kazoo kazoo kazoo a
25 year old Canadian citizen arrested on behalf of the United States in Thailand
He apparently took his own life a week later while in Thai custody and he faced charges relating to narcotics distribution
Identity theft money laundering and related crimes. Basically, he was screwed and he was
Sure that he was not getting out. Yes
Yeah
the usernames and passwords of thousands of buyers and sellers of
Illicit commodities have been identified and are subject to follow-up investigation by Europol. It's and partner agencies
It's just usernames and passwords. Like I you know what?
remember
This is the world
where people give
Televangelists money to buy private jets
You know about this, right? No. Yeah, this has happened. Oh, yes more than once where they literally got up there and they're like
To spread the word of God. I need a private jet
So send me anything you can spare
Like that's a thing. That's a real thing
They ride around in private jets
That they literally said they were gonna buy with donation money
tax-free, um, so don't
underestimate
People's ability to use the same username and password that they use on frickin Facebook
For a dark web marketplace where you buy like drugs. Yes
Don't underestimate. Hopefully we get a follow-up article on this with like how many people got screwed. I
Super duper hope so
Super duper hope so entertaining
I I need to start the Church of Linus. Okay, twit twitch chats like
need Church of Linus
I need a lot of thread ripper
I think I would be an to spread the word of CPU
I think I would be an excellent
Televangelist probably I I I could I could have so much fun with that shtick
I
Luckily would follow would follow best church
Love it
Okay, we've got we've got ourselves at least at least like 30 followers right now
Which which in some states is probably enough for tax exempt status
So we are we are doing this
Oh awesome, oh man other people want Church of Luke you can have your own church. I'm you know, I'm no we should make a
I can be one of your things a denomination. Yeah, like it. Okay, so it's actually like the Church of Tech
Yes, so you could be like Lucas. Yeah, like like
You know line of solace ISM. Yes
Oh perfect. Yeah, and then like we can pretend to like fight to make it more interesting just like
Those guys that are really popular on youtube right now
They can't remember the name of where they like pretend little quarrels
But then behind the scenes we're like just finding ways to gather more money. Apparently John all john oliver's done it
I've heard of this. There you go. Okay. All right
What hasn't john oliver done and they like had to pull it down because it was like working too well and stuff
Yeah, but I think everyone knew it was a joke. Okay, but people just wanted to contribute ironically working. Yes. Okay
I'm pretty sure that's what was going but I mean that's still that's still a pretty good scam. Oh, yeah
It's like haha. Let's show all the well give me money
Oh terrible, yeah
All right. No. No the way we make money is uh much much more above board than all of that
Because we tell you right now. Actually, I guess they are just saying send me money so I can have a jet. Okay
So watch this ad spot so that I can buy definitely not a jet something not a jet
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Frickin dope I saw the booth list and i'm actually really stoked. I think i'm gonna have a lot of fun
We went from ltx being something that I was really not sure how hard I wanted to sell
Because I wasn't sure how great it was going to be to ltx being like
Flipping gonna be awesome
I almost wish I like what hosting a booth is gonna be super fun and a new experience for a convention for me
But like as someone who really enjoys conventions and having the conventions that I go to be less and less about tech
Seeing this is really exciting. Well, it's VR dude. You could just leave people in VR and like go away. That's fair
I could probably do that. There's a case toss
There's a Corsair key swapping competition
Yeah, like leaderboards prizes. Yeah, you wouldn't believe how much like some companies we reached out
We were like, hey, could we get some prizes and they were like sure here's like
Boxes of like lanyards and cool crap some companies we reached out and we were like, hey
Could we get some swag and they were like boom. Here's a Titan XP. Boom
Here's multiple gtx 1070s. Boom. Here's limited-edition
geforce USB drives
or boom
Here's literally like I think a sueset like 300 or 400 t-shirts what so there's gonna be like an Asus t-shirt
For like like almost like every other person who's there?
This thing is gonna be swag central
Giveaway central. Okay. This is the thing at like packs and stuff all the really cool giveaways used to be from the PC guys
It was rarely the gaming companies. They might give it a shirt
Yeah, but the PC hardware groups like MSI used to have sick giveaways
I remember that and ZXT used to have sick giveaways in video used to like and was giving away like shields like candy
Yeah one year they would go into be wow
See what might one of my favorite experiences that I ever had at a PAX was an Nvidia giveaway. Yeah, be wow see section
I didn't get to participate in it because we weren't in be yc yet
We were in like the free play area
but we could hear it because it's right beside it the first thing they did was the first person to rip an AMD card out of
Their system and hand it to me gets a brand new top-of-the-line in video card. I don't know what card it was
I think it was like a 580 or something
But any AMD card out of your system you get a 580 the next one was like some weird competition
You got another 580 and there's more by the way because not to be upstaged by Nvidia
Let me tell you AMD is gonna have some stuff there. Yeah some stuff that I actually can't even talk about
Yeah, and some of the stuff that I can't even talk about might be getting given away
Yeah, so like there's gonna be a thing. There's gonna be crazy
We're gonna have never before seen Linus media group videos that will never be seen
Whether they were rejected by the brand or that we couldn't get music licensing figured out for them
Oh, there's gonna be a channel super fun. That will probably never see my video that will that might never otherwise see the light of day
There's gonna be
Let's see what else we got. I don't know a lot of this 16k gaming's gonna be there
The arcade machines gonna be there cool oil
PC is gonna be there the one and only and we're doing a silent auction for BC Children's Hospital
where I went around and I found a bunch of relics of
Linus tech tips, so there's a refurb drive from the original wannock server
Oh, that's pretty so that it's like that kind of stuff and I was gonna have I was gonna have Colton staff check with you
But I actually wanted to see if you want to do the fallout bomb
For sick kids. I might end up just winning it
You would just buy it
It's even mine. Like that's technically
That's why I want that's why I told them we had to ask you about it. You want to do it? We can do it
Yeah, I'll probably just say I'd be saying I told them I told them that they couldn't do the scrapyard wars PC
That would probably hurt me a little that I I told them that was the limit
But they were like they wanted like a build of some sort they can do the bomb
So, okay, if not the bomb then we'll have the plasti dip PC
Okay, so there will be a build there that you'll be able to and the bomb is just an empty case by the way
but there will be like a case that was featured there's still all the
wiring
So like you could it's it has all the like front IO that would be in a normal case
So you could build a system in there
Recreating the thermal setup that I had so that it wouldn't crash at like any load is gonna be difficult. Yeah
That actually took like a long time
So anyway, LTX is gonna be sick and it's nuts really next weekend the 29th
And if you somehow are like I'm teched out right now, or I don't want to see video games or something for a while
There's like jousting sumo wrestling bungee run rocket league in real life rocket league in real life
There's an insane on stage unboxings to exclusive on stage
I think our biggest issue is gonna be that it's not like two days. Yeah, there's so much stuff to well
We were worried there wasn't gonna be like anything to do. No, I know so we know there's like really careful with it
Like ample amount. Well, you know what?
What we'll probably do is if it's if everyone who comes has a blast and like tells three friends and we have like
You know thousands of people there next year, then we'll probably have to run it over a couple days
We'll just have to see how it goes. Yeah ticket sales sucked like we could have expanded it to a second day
We checked with the Convention Center, but like ticket sales were kind of lame
So we were like not lame enough that we're like, yeah, we have to cancel this but like one issue
Is that it's in Canada? I know I received a lot of messages. I know being a problem. I know I know
But like what are we supposed to do like cart 16k gaming to like LA?
Well, Seattle
Still yeah, I know still I know like
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All right, let's move on to let's move on to another topic here
We can move on to the topic of hiring full-plane people
Or we can move on to the topic of the Noctua fans
Interesting. Have you not seen that? No, I kind of okay. Yeah, I was this was posted by Ventus on the forum
And
Apparently
So this is from our slash build a PC
posted by a kendalf
visible
manufacturing differences between Noctua fans made in Taiwan versus China
Yeah
I'm really wondering what your opinion is on this actually. I
Think the twitch chat probably is too
Wow, yeah, so the fan blades on the Taiwan fans are noticeably smoother and more rounded
The flow acceleration channels on the blades of the Taiwan fans are more defined
The inner surface micro structures
Of the made in Taiwan's one have a distinct water drop shape. Whereas the made in China are just a shallow triangular cutout
I communicate I was going to say these sound like counterfeits even I
Communicated these differences with Noctua and they claim that the differences are within their manufacturing tolerances
And do not affect performance
But Noctua is known for its reputation of the highest attention to detail and I'm sure
That's all also really good that the Noctua engineers designed these tiny details to be able to make the most out of them
That the Noctua engineers designed these tiny details to exacting specifications for some reason is basically what the the reddit post continues to say
Apparently
Now I haven't heard them
But the made in China fans apparently
Have a noticeably louder drone when spinning at the same rpm rpm as the other fans
Now gamers nexus is going to be apparently
Um doing tests and gonna be making a video on it, which is cool or check them out
I'm back check them out over at gamers nexus.com or they've got a youtube channel as well
So they'll probably make a video on this one. Yeah, good guys over there. Yep
They've been they've actually done a lot of good content around this type of stuff. Yeah, I enjoy that
This is more their wheelhouse than ours anyway
but I'll definitely be paying close attention and we can talk about it on wan show in the future to how this works out and
I'm
definitely
firing up an email over to my contacts over there like what the heck is going on because like
I'll tell you guys something
So this this is sort of this is sort of uh, very sort of behind the scenes sort of in my brain how things work
Um, one of the business ideas that I would love to explore in the future
as much as I love selling digital influence, which is a great business by the way, because
You don't have any manufacturing costs. Well, you don't have to carry any inventory
Well, I mean, okay. Yes, you have to you know people like that, you know
Equipment and all that kind of thing. But but but these are one-time costs. Yeah, not but not parietal
Yeah, you don't have to rnd a new freaking you know
Nut and screw or whatever every time you get like it's just has to change the lighting setup. It's somewhat more finite
So I like the business of selling digital influence
But one of the companies that I would want to found when I have some more time and when I am able to do it
would be a manufacturer of a physical product and
A lot of the philosophy that i'm developing for this company is actually borrowed from my perception of noctua
Yeah, because I thought
of noctua that they were like
Like the founders were somehow deeply involved in aerodynamics research or something at some university over there
I don't remember where I heard it
But like someone told me that someone told them that like that was the background
But that wasn't what happened at all
Razcom the parent company of noctua
Was just like a small time
European computer hardware distributor like
You know like like like, you know frozen cpu before they went down so so
They were just a distributor of other people's parts and then frozen is actually a perfect example of a company that also
Developed their own products at one point and then completely went off the deep end. Um
So when I found that out I kind of went well
How is it that your fans are the best?
And they kind of went well, I went do you have like brilliant amazing engineers and they were like, well, yeah
We have like, you know good engineers, but but they're not, you know leading researchers in the field of
You know fluid dynamics or anything. Yeah, they're they're engineers
And I was like, well then why are yours better than someone else's and they're like because we don't release it until it's right
Because of attention to detail because we care and this doesn't sound like caring about
And this doesn't sound like caring or attention to detail. No, it doesn't
So this is kind of like this is kind of shaking
Because this is kind of shaking the foundation of a business that I you know
Haven't invested a dollar into yet
like i'm not even close to starting it but one that I that I do want to start at some point and that I
That I had planned to build around basically the knock to a philosophy
charge
as much as it takes
To make a profit on the best product you could build so it's going to be expensive
But make sure that what you build is the best that was that was the idea
And i'm i'm sort of you know
I don't want to get ahead of myself because if there's anything that i'm a fanboy of it's not to a fans. Yes
So i'm not going to freak out yet
I also want to point out that the link that I posted in the chat for the uh
Reddit conversation does have a video doing the sound comparison. It does have a lot of
Uh frame color difference pictures. It has a lot of comparison images for a ton of different things
This guy has done a lot of work
He's obviously affected. He might be as much of a noctua fanboy as you are
Wow
Huh
Well, let's um, so see how that goes i'm interested yeah if this is if this is true
What is what is the name of that other brand? Um
They're black and white fans. Oh noise blocker noise blocker if this is true. Will you actually try a noise blocker fan?
Wow
Because this is okay
this has been like I don't bring it up much because we talked about it a lot a long time ago and this conversation has just
Concluded like there's nothing else to really talk about it was just like
No
I found a fan. I really like it. This is this is perfect and i'm gonna use it forever
I'm gonna use it forever and that's fine. It's a fan. You found one that fit your specifications
And it's not so much that I refuse to use noise blocker or something like that. It's just like
If noise blocker was better than an nff 12
Then it like it really wasn't by much
And a big part of what I trusted about noctua and trust about noctua trust it. I don't know. It's like
I don't know what I don't know what anything is anymore a big part of what are being a big part of what I have trusted
about noctua
Is inside information that I have from being the product manager on their line and seeing real world rma rates
Yeah, they don't die or like anything can die, but they generally don't very uncommon very reliable
I'm just saying right now, but if all these other things could be different
Maybe that could be different too noise blocker black silent pro fans look really slick
I'm just saying all right well speaking of companies that
Are capable of both delighting and disappointing me our next bit of news posted by hk05 on the forum
Is originally from videocards.com and is a rumor about intel
So intel is allegedly working on multiple hex core coffee lake cpu
So coffee lake for those of you not familiar
Will be the replacement to kb lake and that will be a mainstream
Processor so this tells us a couple things this tells us either
That intel of its own accord had been finally intending to deliver a six core mainstream processor anyway
Before amd dropped ryzen yeah, or
That intel became aware that ryzen was going to be pretty good through corporate espionage
Far before the rest of the industry knew about it and started working on this
Or just already had it
And just decided not to do anything with it. I don't think so because if they'd already had it they could have done it with kb lake
Right whereas coffee lake is going to be a new platform. So it's going to be a new chipset
I think if they had been
If they had known about it two years ago, we'd have it in kb lake
Yeah, whereas if they knew about it like a year and a half ago then
Either they decided on their own. It's time
or
or they weren't willing to
Throw a fast one at motherboard manufacturers again so hard with mainstream processors
Okay, it might be easier to throw a fast one at them with motherboards that they won't have to make nearly as many of
This could be very disruptive to ryzen
Yeah, but I think ryzen has
Amd as a whole probably at this point gotten a lot more customers just because people are more interested in them because they're tired
Of some of the crap from the other side I can see that
And I feel like a lot of the communication that's currently going around amd isn't going to go away even if intel releases a good
Processor because there are certain like business practice things that people didn't like that's true
Yep, so I think those communication lines might keep them going and I mean a lot of people
Will buy based on a particular brand loyalty. Yeah, or you'll see a post on pcmr
That's like oh these are great and just go buy that and if either product is like good
Yeah, then there's really nothing wrong with that and people aren't going to fight super hard if they're both good products
Let's say they're good products. They're good products. They're good products
And people aren't going to fight super hard if they're both good products like you know you go back
You go back far enough to when you know, uh amd and nvidia were
pretty comparable so like, you know, we could look at the um
Like the x x 800 era or something like that like an x 800 pro
was like
pretty freaking similar to a
7800 gt or whatever the contemporary one was I can't I can't remember exactly
um
Was it 60 6800 6800 gt? I don't remember. Anyway, they were pretty darn close
It came down to whether you liked catalyst control center, or was it still called detonator at the time?
I don't remember whatever video driver was called. Thank you to everyone in the twitch chat that is currently going intel. No
I love that that meme is still going
All right
Anyway, here's kind of the summary of these rumors
The k version will have a 3.7 gigahertz base with hyper threading enabled
So that's 12 threads and the non-k running at 3.2
Tdp of 95 watts which should be quite doable and then there will apparently and that'll be the flagship. So that'll be the 8700
The 8700 series then the uh, there will be a six core i5 as well. Wow. Oh, that's interesting
with that being the
Slowest six core desktop the 8600k 3.6 gigahertz and then 95 watt tdp. No hyper threading
Wait, no, the slowest six core will be a core i5 8400
Wow, so that could be like that could be like a hundred and seventy dollars 175 price point
Oh
That one that the article is saying looks like a direct response to amd's ryzen 5
Intel will also apparently introduce an actual
Mobile CPU with six cores with much lower clock speeds and a 45 watt tdp
So you'd expect to find that in something like an acer predator 21x refresh or something along those lines
Wow
It's apparently okay, so sorry, I just got to give an update on the the nose. Hold on one more thing
It's apparently unclear at this time whether these will require new motherboards, though. I would have thought they would yeah
So don't quote me on that one. Okay, go ahead
Well, um, it has divulged it started with amd
No, and then it transferred into intel. No with this article, which was funny and now it's just turned into like
Anything? No, perfect. It's just it's chaos. It's chaos in switch chat the bots banning everybody
It's just it's it's hell out there, man
Yeah, you gotta fight to survive
All right, so we can probably skim I yeah there really isn't much going on here, okay
Nintendo applied for a patent for its Nintendo 64
Controller they reapplied for a Nintendo 64 controller patents
So there's probably a Nintendo 64 classic coming after the SNES classic
But who knows and it's not coming for a long time and it's pretty expected that that would happen anyways
So yeah, cool. Yeah
Can you like how much our nest classics at this point very expensive?
Apparently people have found some that got restocked. Hmm
So there's a little bit of rumor going around that they might start actually manufacturing all them instead of just having this one
Yeah, it's so stupid. Yeah, like this and there's a lot of money
There's a lot of people that want to have the set like Nintendo. Why do you hate money? Yeah
I just I don't even they have so much. I
Really love it when people are like man, that was a stupid decision from Nintendo. They're gonna die as a company
I'm like, no, they're not
Nintendo can survive for like ever while making terrible decisions because they have so much money. It doesn't even matter
They'll like fail repeatedly and then just release another like Wii or switch. The switch is doing incredibly well
It's like oh the Wii U didn't matter and no one knew it existed. That's fine
Nintendo would have survived and then just smash the gaming world again with some other new console. It doesn't matter
They have like a way more intense version of the Microsoft like every second OS thing. Mm-hmm
This is kind of funny yeah posted by diocin on the forum the original article here is from the BBC
A
Chinese mall introduces husband storage pods for shopping wives
Husbands can play old-school games like Tekken 3 in the pods
I'm also gonna chime in I want this in the North American malls
Okay, no, not necessarily
Apparently there's no ventilation or air conditioning some guy sat in and played for five minutes and was just drenched in sweat
Okay, so maybe better ones maybe better ones. So these are glass pods where women can leave their partners while they shop
Inside each individual pod is a chair monitor computer and gamepad and men can sit and play retro
1990s games if they did is currently free
Yeah, but in the future users will have to pay to scan a QR code not pay and scan a QR code to use the service
They should just make it so that you like pair up with the person that you're shopping with and as they make purchases
It like gives you more time
You know what? I mean, so you don't actually have to pay for it
It's just tied in with like some someone in your group is spending money at the mall
So you get to stay in your little pod and they should make it so you can like order food to it and everything
It'd be awesome. I just will also want to bring up that the be knows in chat switch to
Money, no Nintendo. No and profit. No, so excellent. Good job. Thank you for the update. Keep going
Love to see it. The original article here is from hot crunch
YouTube launches its
counterterrorism experiment for would-be Isis recruits and
basically, what's going on here is that
Now when a potential Isis recruit searches for known extremist content on YouTube using a predefined set of keywords
They will instead be redirected to videos that deconstruct and confront the terrorist group
so
Isis no, I get way too much entertainment from this. I am completely okay with this. So these are
curated YouTube videos
Debunking Isis recruiting themes this open methodology was developed from interviews with Isis defectors
Respects users privacy and can be deployed to tackle other types of violent recruiting discourses online
So that's where this gets kind of dicey that does go where is the line?
Yeah, so the recruit the redirect method began with an eight-week pilot program and listing
320,000 viewers that explored some key insights around the kind of things that potential Isis recruits search for to be fair though this
YouTube is not a government website. Mm-hmm. They can suggest and they have a suggestion algorithm
They can suggest whatever they want to you. Mm-hmm. This is why stuff like floatplane makes sense
Except maybe not for that type of con
Yeah
But like if you if you want to specifically see one thing that you're searching for
Going to one website that has like a crazy machine learning algorithm
That's trying to just give you what it wants to give you is not necessarily the greatest way to go
So effective deterrence apparently include documentary videos
it's a good idea citizen journalism that was interesting videos that feature religious debates and
videos from Isis defectors
I wouldn't have thought necessarily the third one the religious debate one is weird because I could just see that fueling someone even more
Well, maybe not. I
Think maybe these people are
Obviously, okay. Okay. I'm gonna be careful here, but I
would think
that someone who manages to be converted to an
an
extremist is
probably
pretty
How you say that the force would work on them? No, they're probably pretty simple
Suggestible. Yes, right. Okay. There we go. Yeah, so wouldn't take an obi-wan because he has a special gift for it
Just basically anyone basically anyone. So if you just throw a debate in front of them
Maybe that in Qui-Gon who never successfully does it in the movies would be able to manage it too many Star Wars memes. Sorry
Yeah, it's that's interesting oh I do like I can't be upset about it
This particular instance I have no issue with at all. Mm-hmm
Seeing where this goes could be a big problem again. I personally think it's private company. It's not a government agency
They can kind of do whatever they want
I might not like it, but that would just incite people to use other platforms more if they abuse it
So just do that again. It's a it's a private company. You have the freedom to use other things if you would like to
Hopefully they don't take it much further than this trying to stop people from becoming terrorists
Heck yeah, super down with that. Trying to stop people from using edge browser. And that's the Wham Show for today. Thank you guys for tuning in. We will see you again next week. Same bad time. Well no, that's not actually leave yet. Oh. There's two things that we still have to do. What do we have to do? One, I'm recruiting for Floatplane if you want to be a developer and you want to come join us. There's a video on our website
On our Facebook page and on our Twitter right now and on Floatplane if you want to see it
Unfortunately, I am looking specifically for Canadians or Americans who have a degree in a highly related field like
Computer science or like software engineering. It has to be very directly related
That is because of like immigration law and all this kind of stuff. We have already picked up two guys
That don't fit within that realm and it's been a problem trying to get them into Canada and trying to keep them employed because Canada doesn't want you to have people who are employed, who don't live in Canada when you don't have an office outside of Canada blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
So we're trying to make this process a little bit easier and we're just going for Canadians or Americans with a full bachelor's degree. That one's nice too. I was telling you earlier to try it out. It's good. They're new flavors. Very good.
So yeah, if you're interested you want to apply back end front end
Check out those videos. It goes into more specifics there about even what the heck Floatplane is. Employment, no! What you'd be doing
Is that what people are doing now?
Employees, no. Canada, no. Edge, no. Oh god. I love that. I don't know why I love that so much, but I do
Also, we should go over what's on Floatplane right now. Mmm, right. We can't miss two weeks in a row. That would be
Um, dang it. I'm not signed in. What a nerd. I don't know
Whatever these guys have been watching for like
I'm talking about the the archive if anyone actually made it this far into the video. What's another like
30 seconds fair
Shoot that's not that that's the wrong. What am I even doing? I'm busy enjoying this jerky
Hey, someone said Floatplane, yes. I'll take that meme break
Sorry, I have to sign in to
I have to sign in to my password manager in order to sign it. Oh, oh
Everything is awful
All in the name of security though, right?
Pretty much. Yep. Yep. That's a security
I'm just tired of having accounts
Compromised yeah
That was no fun. No, that wasn't a lot of fun
200k? No, I will not be paying you 200k
And in response in response to your answer no, I will not be doing it either yeah
All right, let's see if that works boom we're in all right sounds like 200k yes
So what do we got casino technology is that's actually a pretty good episode
It's been a little the comments on that have been interesting because there's some people feel quite strongly about casinos
I didn't really think that was gonna be a thing cuz of like gambling addiction and all this kind of stuff
Yeah, what does that have to do with us though? I don't know. It's just been an interesting comment section. It's interesting
That's not necessarily been pointed at us it should have been interesting mezzanine update 11
Is now here
Yeah, look at that. It's actually coming along. Yeah
Five truly unusual graphics cards they truly are unusual
I got to give us credit for titling this one very correctly. That's a fan. Oh
Yeah
That's unusual. That's a thing. Yeah. Yep
the world's most amazing desk PC
16k gaming build log
Done done done. Yeah, I I think you could have had an even click your title for that
Um, I don't think the interesting part. There's the desk piece. I think the monitor
I think the thumb well that that's the subject of this one is actually building the desk PC and getting everything mounted
So there's this is part one of two. Ah
So the other one focuses more on the monitor part two might even do better
Part two is the one that I expect to like
Beat 8k gaming. Yeah, okay. Okay cool
Another 16k. Yes another rant about red digital cinema is coming
There you go to YouTube or you can watch it on floatplane now
There you go
$7,000 card, that's actually a pretty cool video. I watch that DJI spark videos up
I what else we got? I think I think that might be it. Oh this project orthris that thing is insane
The this is actually so this was half of the joke when I did that stupid thing with SLI red. Yes red. No
You've started a monster now, I love it. It's so it's like 80% of the twitch that right now
So this was part of the joke when I said world's smallest SLI with those stupid USB drives
Yeah, is that we actually will have the world's smallest s coming up on the channel very soon. That's awesome
With 1080 TI's this time like for real
All right, so thank you for tuning in to the land she'll be we'll see you again next week same batch time same batch channel
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