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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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It's weird everything's different and it makes
I can't handle it
Welcome to the wan show guys. I'm afraid it's gonna be a little bit late
Normally when we start ten minutes late, we try to also run ten minutes late, but today we simply
Do not have that option because it's time. It's the night. I am so freaking nervous
Me too. I am like lots of reasons
That's my smartwatch. I actually talked about this extensively on the wan show yesterday. Oh last week number of steps reached. I
Just hit my target. There you go sitting here. Good job. Oh, this thing's terrible. It's terrible
So I'm actually writing my review of it
from the perspective of
Everything that I love about it
Or everything that I love about what it could be the ideas that I love
Except it's awful
Yeah, so it's gonna I think the title is probably gonna be who makes the worst thing I've I've ever loved or something like that
Okay, you love it though. I I love
Where we're going. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah smartwatch isn't responding close app or wait. What do you mean?
What the entire smartwatch? Anyway, yeah, so
I actually I wrote about half of it before the wan show today. I'd wanted to get that shot this week, but didn't happen
Sorry
Soon, I'm excited. It looks to me the reason why I asked it looks to me like a Kickstarter product
No, no, this is made by Nubia. They like Oh have real like phones and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, okay
What just happened? Oh
I have alpha gesture on which is like their air wavy thing. Okay, so when you go to use the screen
Great really really good design
So I
Will to bring it back to the row someone in flow plane chat said will Luke roast Linus
Kappa, uh
Well, I don't know. Are you planning to just go up and say really nice things about me? Cuz that would be pretty cool. I
Was I was informed that's against the rules. I actually thought about at one point in time just going up and complimenting everyone
But like in really weird ways
And then that was that was a no
Yeah, no, that would be a hard no because then everyone else has to feel bad. That's why I wanted to do it
So people are asking about
So we'll talk more about why we are respectively worried about the roast cuz I've got my own whole set of reasons
Yeah, so do you yeah, but people on float plane are asking?
What's going on with our streaming on float plane right now, so last night I did a test and it was pretty bad
Yeah, and we're expecting for the roast which I believe the live stream starts in three hours. Does that sound right to you?
Yeah, three hours and 29 minutes at 830 is when it starts. Is that right? I believe so
Okay, I think I don't entirely know but I think so
Okay at any rate oh that's a really good idea Dominic says tech link classic tea is amazing
They should do a wan classic tea. Have you seen the tech link to classic tea? Yeah. Yeah, wait just the logo
Yeah, it's in your merch bin. I
Think Lloyd just brought one down. He brought up the last second. I think sure. Yeah
Oh, oh, wait, did he add this one in? Yes. He added it at the very end. Oh, yeah. No, that's super sharp
Yeah, it's like really clean. Okay. I think a wan classic would actually look really good. That would be pretty cool. Anyway, um
So we did a test last night because how much are you guys talking about?
The architecture of it we can talk about it. So
When we first started streaming on float plane, it was through float plane CDN except it didn't work with the edge servers
so basically what that means is there was the uploader that was sending their stream to the origin server and that server was sending the
Stream to everyone that one server in that one location and it was really bad and we've improved it a little bit over time
On our own and we've integrated a few other CDNs that we've tried
But very recently we started working with Cloudflare very recently as in yesterday
and lens and I did a couple test streams and I did one and
everything wasn't cached and there was some other various problems and then Linus did one and it was terrible hot garbage because of
DNS problems and cache problems so people needed to control f5 their page and there was a few other problems such as well now
We're doing a combo
Attack because of a problem that we had with our edge server where we're taking the stream from the creator
Bringing it to our origin server streaming it right now at least with this stream to twitch and to YouTube and streaming it to
Another CDN, which is then streaming from that CDN to Cloudflare
Which is then streaming to you guys and somehow the latency is still super fast
Okay, and it seems to be pretty good. Okay. I've had a couple people complaining that they're switching between 480 and 1080
Unfortunately, that's not a like Cloudflare or anyone else problem and an experience that we've we've noticed is
that over time it should get a little bit better because the like weird auto detection logic that we have on our side is
Assuming it's bad and then going like oh, it's actually pretty good and then giving them more. Got it. Okay. Got it
We've actually got a lot of really good feedback though. So
Yeah, it's obviously not perfect yet. Is it just me or is the audio much better on floatplane believe it or not?
That is actually one of the things that we identified early on with floatplane
As an easy way to differentiate ourselves from YouTube. YouTube compresses the audio so much and it's so unnecessary
It's actually a pretty small day high quality audio versus low quality audio is such a small difference in the bit rate
When you're serving video
That we were just looking at it going
What are they doing? Might as well just not touch it and just kind of let it go
it makes such a big difference compared to
The the gain that you get back from it max2387 says so glad I subscribed on floatplane. This is so much better
Yeah, so like we we have a lot of people right now that have a notably better experience
Silver side up. Holy hell the difference in quality is amazing
Yeah, there there are some people that it's still going to be not great for there are some people that are still going to have
Some quality auto detection problems. There's there's obviously going to be some other problems as well
but we think the solution that we have now is better than solution that we had a week ago and the solution that we
Had a week ago is better than solution that we had four months ago
So it's it's improving someone says they hear a fan in the background
That's actually the the mini fridge for our sponsor for the roast madrina's that is running in the back. Sorry
next week
Next week, we won't we won't have that. Yeah, the fan noise is just a little yeah, it's okay, though
Okay, got people asking are you gonna archive the roast in full on floatplane?
I can't promise that solid maybe yeah, if we can
We will
But it's possible that someone will say something that is just
deplorable not
Not acceptable to me
On the linus tech tips channel. There's a period there's some alcohol involved
And there's going to be heightened emotions
Um, so I think we're just we're going to play it safe
so
probably
I mean the people that we've got so the people on the diet dais dais
Dais dais. I think it's dais. Sure, but I don't really know so the people on the dais dais
It doesn't matter. Okay, um are gonna be luke
nick
yvonne
James is he's actually like kind of the mc. So he's only sort of on the dais. Yeah, um
Who else is internal dennis
Is gonna be on it. Um, luke riley
Riley and then we've got I got nick. Okay, and then we've got three celebrity guests, which I am so excited like these guys
Really went out of their way. It is a lot of work to prepare for something like this. They're not being paid
All we compensated them for was just their travel and their accommodations
So this is really genuinely out of the goodness of their hearts and because they just wanted to contribute goodness of their hearts
I've already been told by one of them that they're just laying into me. So
So steve from gamers nexus is going to be there tonight. He was actually here in the studio today
We were shooting a really fun video, uh water cooling and overclocking a laptop. Nice. Um,
Jay's two cents is going to be there
and uh
Why am I trying blank kyle?
Kyle from bitwit. I know right
So not only is kyle going to be there, but if you're subscribed to him on floatplane as well
You will get access to the roast exact same quality. Yeah, the chats will be split. The chats will be split. So, um,
Anyone who follows either linus tech tips or bitwit?
On floatplane is going to have access to the stream when it starts in a couple of hours
uh, so so get uh
Get hyped get hyped. Uh, it's good. Oh, man. Um
I'm, really nervous one one little deficiency on floatplane that i'm just gonna announce right now is we have notifications for videos
We don't have notifications for live streams. So maybe hang out on the page
And you should be good to go. Yeah
Uh, I mean we could do what I did last night. We could upload a short video saying
Come check out the stream. Go check out the stream what we used to do back in the day for land shows
Yeah, I know right so like it's not that weird. Uh, that that might be a decent idea actually
So yeah
If you guys are more into kyle than you are into us then just go to floatplane.com sign up and then subscribe to kyle
And if you're more into linus tech tips, then go to floatplane.com sign up subscribe to us
If you're more into both of them
Right now each of us is only three dollars a month for early access and behind the scenes and whatever it is that we upload there
So that's probably going up. I wouldn't be surprised a linus media group is definitely raising pricing once the tiered thing rolls out properly
And I wouldn't be surprised if other guys do too because the reality of it is with payment processors taking as much as they do
there's just
Not that much left in very small transaction amounts
So it's like
It's one of those really frustrating things because on the one hand we understand that a lot of people can only give a little bit
And we absolutely appreciate that but on the other hand quite frankly visa and mastercard and paypal don't need to get that much richer
And they are taking such a significant portion of very small payments that it's ridiculous
Yeah, because there's a flat fee from the processor
Then there's the percentage fee from the credit card then we got to pay for our infrastructure
Then we got to pay for our people then we got to give money to the creators
So it starts to dwindle down really fast. Um, people are asking if uh people from now will be grandfathered in yes
That's the intention. However, that doesn't mean that there won't be new tiers with like higher quality or you know blog posts or
You know early access to the scripts before we shoot them or like I don't know we could come up with cool stuff that we could
Do and that would be at new pricing in all likelihood
It's also likely that we would recognize our og subscribers with some kind of special emote. Um
Even site-wide actually might be kind of cool
Could we do a site-wide emote like we launched now because we did a we did a pre full platform emote
We could do a pre launch like a launch pad emote or something like that runway. That'd be kind of neat. Yeah
Except to know because it's water. Yeah
So back to the drawing board on that one some water. That's actually not bad
You get the three little squirting water things. Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy
Okay, but nervousness yeah, yeah me too. Okay. Why are you nervous? I've got a few different things one of them
Hey all that stuff. We just talked about
Was set up last night and this morning aj went super ham. Thank you very much aj, but
Last night and this morning aj went super ham. Thank you very much aj, but
I'm gonna be up on stage the entire time freaking out hoping that everything isn't on fire
Um, so that's gonna be really great for the nerves
Uh, number two is i've been off camera except for this and my own stream
For a long time and let alone presenting in front of people about 160 people there and content that i've never
even
I haven't thought of doing before I haven't done a full rehearsal of mine
I've like said mine to
The bathroom mirror, please tell me it was the bathroom mirror because that would be amazing two different people over discord. Okay. All right. Yeah
That's it
but like
It's weird. I have not had time
I only
I I mostly finished my material on I think it was tuesday night. It was either tuesday or wednesday night
And then I put the finishing touches on it
This morning, which means doing a full read through
Not really even fully possible. I have not
Done i've been shooting all day. That's the other weird part is this type of presenting. Oh, it's totally different
We've both done presenting but we've never done presenting where people are going to like interrupt us by laughing or something
Yeah, I hope it's any good. I hope they laugh been my biggest concern is like I have no idea if this is even funny
It's funny. I was giving ivan a pep talk, right?
So I was like look even if the people in the audience don't laugh
Don't worry about it too much because you got to understand that only about half of the audience is actual fans
Okay, so I don't know if you know that but madrina's has a bunch of staff here
There's a bunch of um our staff friends and family of staff some people brought like I think james brought like six people
I'm trying to drag in a couple friends
um
So like a lot of the people might not have all the context that they need to understand the joke the ones there in person
And I was like look if if we're going through the edit for youtube and we think objectively that joke
Is very funny for our audience
We can we might be able to play around with
The laughter a little bit look look movie magic, okay
I was just I was just saying understand that there could be people
Out on the internet who think it's hilarious
But they're not there to laugh and feed you their energy
So just like do your best like watching the chat like you might be able to measure it that way. I have no idea
Okay, but like even though I was like telling her that
I'm sitting here with like knots in my stomach unable to heed my own advice and i'm like i'm worried about
Bombing up there because I have never
Done anything like this. We're not comedy writers. No
I was never even
a writer
And you had to drag that out of me now i'm writing comedy like I don't
and like the thing is I I think of myself as kind of
Like a funny guy, you know in a group, but it's totally different humor. No, it's completely different
and the the kind of like the punchiness and the cadence that you need to it is
So different because i'm not trying to get any information across
I have no point other than like
You're mom dumb. Yeah
I just need you
You can laugh as loud as i'll need I got you no problem a loudspeaker. Um, I
I when I first heard about it, I was like, oh i'm absolutely in of course. I need to be in on this then I heard
Because I haven't really watched roast then I heard you get to roast his back. That sucks and then
Yeah, and then and then I would like had a whole bunch of like ideas in my head early on I was like
Oh, i'm fine. And then I wrote them all down and read them out loud and I was like, this is
terrible
I know
I had like like my wife. I know her really really well. I had like this much material for her
Just just notes bullet bullet form. I I felt like I could have done a five minute set just on her
And then I started like fleshing it out into like you know, like punch lines
And I was like, this isn't funny. No, it's just stupid
Yeah, and so this is where i'm worried where like I don't necessarily know if i've gotten far enough away
From the this isn't funny. This is just stupid
I hope I made it. I have no idea the thing too is like much much like
Just like my career is making youtube videos, which I don't really consume
um
Tonight i'm making
Roasts like stand-up comedy
Content which I actually don't find roasts funny
I watch some of like very famous roasts. Um, I watched some in preparation for this and the ones that I have watched so far
It seems to be people who like genuinely dislike each other for the most part or like I watched the trump one
Really deserve it
Like the charlie sheen one sure. Yeah, and it's like
And so i'm like i'm watching i'm watching this i'm just going like
Okay
Um, I mean to be clear. I don't necessarily think it's people who genuinely dislike each other. I think maybe you're no the trump one
Oh, I haven't watched the trump one the trump one as far as I can tell is just a whole bunch of people who just
Viciously hate trump and i'm like, okay. I'm surprised he said okay to this
But like when you get like seth mcfarland up on stage, like doesn't like he's not a fan of no the donald for sure
So and then like I watched another one and I don't necessarily even know these people
I don't know famous people very well as you know, so there's
Person who I forgot her name
Amy trumer. Yeah, and she's making fun of
I should really know this one mike tyson
Mike tyson. Oh, I see. Okay, uh and
Those are those were brutal right and they really don't seem to like each other
Yeah, I mean ann coulter didn't think any of the stuff that got said about her was very funny
Yeah, um like a fair amount of I did watch there was one with jonah hill in it and it was like
Him and a few of his friends and that one seemed like genuinely like they were just messing around. I was like, okay, that's cool
But that was the only example I found. Yeah, I don't know. It's just but anyway, so i'm up there
Sort of I have to sit there and try to appreciate this art form. Yeah as the subject of it
When it's one that I don't really fully understand like I don't really get
And then I also have to do it
and uh
I think both of us are gonna have um challenges
But from opposite ends here in terms of like the creation of the material so for you, okay
So for those who don't know members of the dais, um are not just tasked with roasting me. Yeah
Um anyone else up there is also fair game
But I picked someone who's not even up there. Yeah, they still have to have a fair bit of material on me
And that's like i'm not saying because i'm perfect or something
I'm, just saying it's it's hard to come up with really really funny stuff
Funny stuff like a lot of it for just one person and I was told the vast majorities for you
yes, and it's
Actually quite a while you have to talk for
So like it's a lot of writing. Okay, so from the other side i'm supposed to zing you all back
But I only get like like five minutes six minutes same as you guys. Yeah
So so stringing it all together. I didn't even think about that was
A huge challenge. I just expected you would murder me for like most of it. I was like, yeah sure
I'm supposed to hit everyone and you know what?
The funny thing is kind of not I accidentally wrote it with one person missing because there was actually a change. Yeah
um
and what I realized was like no, I can't leave it that way you can't not zing one person because
Then that's weird. Yeah, right. Yeah, and then people would be like, why didn't he go after that guy?
Yeah, or they might feel like does he think i'm such a snowflake that like I can't take a joke or something
Like what's going on here? Like like it's almost like
In order to prove that we are friends you have to go you have to rip on each other for something like this. I'm like
And it's like how savage do I get because i'm in a i'm in kind of a weird position too where unlike most roasts
i'm in a position of
Power and or authority over at least half of the people up there. Yeah. Um, that's another weird spot as i've never seen one
Where it's like their boss. Yeah
I'm really looking forward to it and I want them to not hold back
I've had people approach me and be like look i've got something really really mean. I think you'll cry
And i'm like do it like do it do it don't hold back
But the thing is like I couldn't make like the kinds of mean jokes that I could make about people like yeah
You know your job performance last year was pretty crap. That's why you didn't get a raise
Like that's not funny. Yeah, that's not appropriate. So I had to figure out like what
Like it's almost like it puts more restrictions on me
Than it does on them because I need to make sure that i'm yeah
I need to dish it back because otherwise i'm not playing the game properly
But with restrictions whereas with them, I I it's full full open fire, you know, there were things that I took out of your section
Um, there's also things that I took out of other people's sections just because honestly it a lot of it came down to like
Not only do I think that thing wasn't necessarily as funny because almost every time it wasn't as funny
Which is one of the reasons why I got cut but like it's either not applicable
As much as the other things yeah, or it's like probably a little too private
I went for much more public things. Yeah on everything
And tried to focus on that kind of people were really tough
Um, actually I forgot one of the deus members is going to be my old boss
Oh, yeah, and so he doesn't have much of a public profile. So it's not like I can make jokes like remember the time he
No, not. No, we don't
Hooray
um, so
So even though I have to do eight or nine people
I have to do eight or nine people or whatever it is in five or six minutes
That's kind of nuts. I also have to kind of like put some context behind what i'm saying or like come up with stuff
I actually have a really good. I have a really good set for him though
Yeah, i'm actually really happy. I was when I saw his name. I was like linus needs to go hard because like
I don't have that much time for it. But like
Yeah, yeah
It's gonna be it's gonna be really interesting. Uh, seven says
Is there a floatplane blog because it's hard to keep track of what's going on i've i've wanted to start one
A number of times but what's happened every time and it's it's starting to change now, especially so maybe I will start one soon
I'm not sure i've asked him to do this a lot of times it has I even said on wancho once I was going to do
Once soon that was a long time ago. The problem is
We'll start working and we're growing in employees
So it's starting to become less of a problem as people are starting to work on things more parallelized but like
I think I said I was going to do one of those blogs right before we went into
That's a lot of rain right before we went into something that uh, we just referred to as like the v1 push
Which is our framework went from beta to version one, so we had to spend months
Just updating everything to work with version one. Is that interesting in a blog?
Nope
Not at all. I don't know I think for some of our audience members. It actually would be I
Oh, I don't I don't think that section. I don't that section wasn't even interesting for our own team
Let alone other people that just that time just sucked
Uh, we're in we're in good time now, which is cool. Uh, so a bunch of things are are happening. Um,
It's tyler just like teleported from over there to over there as far as I can tell
Um, so it'd probably be more interesting now and now i'm I have like a little bit more incentive to do it
But now that things are more interesting. I also have less time because now
Because now i'm trying to hire more people and stuff
I don't know. But yeah, maybe maybe after i'm done hiring people i'll
Make another attempt at making the blog. I also want it to like
I think it would make more sense for it to be on the website
And then that would require time from the dev team to go do that and there's other like hyper high priority things
I think on facebook would be fine, honestly
Yeah, I could probably just do that
We have a facebook every once in a while. I'll get an email. Hey, why don't you be like, hey, you should interact with people
Uh, maybe yeah probably should
I just we we've been in in such a pre-release state
Um that it's felt
You know what? I what you know what honestly the thing that I don't like about it is that we're losing so much of our like
history
One of the really cool things i've got i've got it all you do. Yeah. Okay
Well, just like I still have screenshots from the original version of the forum
Okay, i've got screenshots and videos all the way through. Okay, and I can maybe even do like
Look where we came from posts. Yeah, but the feeling will be like missing a little bit. I think like it won't be you won't be like
Everything is retrospective instead of like yeah, that was where my head was at at that point in the journey
Whereas what's really cool about linus media group is that because we create videos every day. Yeah, it's like it's like a memory trigger
I just I think part of the problem is like I don't want to star citizen ourselves. Yeah
Because like I become a blog company basically
Partially and I don't want to I don't want to pay for the fact that like I said, hey the app's almost ready
We're going to open source it soon and then like our path changed a little bit internally
Yeah, and like hey i'm gonna do a blog and then we start doing v1 and i'm like that doesn't really make sense anymore
But now i'm accountable for those things everything we put up in a dev blog. We're accountable for right?
So if i'm like, hey, we're starting work on x project
And then x project gets part way through
Uh, and then the person working on it
Is like hey this other thing should probably be done immediately
I'm going to shift priority to that and we drop x project for
I don't know six months
most of a year forever
Who knows things change?
So I do think that's pretty typical of a dev blog though
Yeah, but people get angry about it. That's very true. And I just I don't know if I want to deal with that
Give in to your anger. Yeah. Oh, that's weird. Shouldn't there be an admin cp there?
Uh, you might not be a thingy what did I do? You're in the wrong account, bro. Uh, okay
Well, I will deal with it another time because that's the other account. Yeah. No, do you want that other account?
Oh, I was just there's so many people in the floatplane chat saying that they're like brand new subscribers and they're here for the roast
And I just I was just curious to see how many people were joining
Um, you know what we should really do is go through our sponsors for the show today. So first up we've got
Oh, wow. Yeah, they should that's weird. You know what? No, let's do our first tech topic first. Okay, and then we will do that
So intel getting real serious about consumer graphics
It looks like so they recently this was posted by deus voltage on the forum and the article that uh, we found it
I like that name
Was kit guru nvidia's tom peterson reportedly joins intel. Well since five days ago inside
Since five days ago inside a rumor or report has been very much confirmed
tom
tap
peterson is officially at intel which for me was like
You can ask jaden and everyone around me upstairs when I read this news I did the same thing like
I thought if you cut the guy open
his blood
Was like bright green like I I was saving this
It was so hard for me to not go off about this because I wanted to save it for wan show
And then I forgot about it when we were sitting here before the show and i'm so happy because I wouldn't be able to contain
myself do you think
It might be somewhat maybe marginally related to the hashtag save tom situation
I think that couldn't help. So for those of you who don't know, uh during a keynote jensen
basically, um
publicly humiliated tom when a demo wasn't going
according to plan
and the
sort of
Word on the street is that jensen is an extremely difficult boss to work for
Not in the way that some bosses might be hard to work for where they come in and like
B-rate you for being stupid because you suck at your job
Uh, but they're like an idiot where he'll come in and berate you for being stupid and sucking at your job
Leaning over spending three minutes and doing it better than you did
I mean like that's how it's done because the guy is apparently just an absolute genius
um
It's just that doesn't make it easier to
Deal with them necessarily and I this is all i'm not I can't I could never name
I couldn't even name a source because I don't remember where i've heard it from but multiple people
Have expressed this sentiment to me over time. Yes. We know we have to leave at six
Oh, thanks ed
Anyway, so I think what we were seeing there might have just been a more public example of something that just
Exists. Yeah
um with that said I mean
But like my my experience with that was that tom effectively disappeared after that for like a while
I tried to like social media. No, I tried to get on a call with him at one point and
Didn't he was like gone. Yeah. Yeah. Um, well, he wasn't gone
But like well there had to be a very good reason to talk to him or something. I was like, yeah
Can I just talk to tom about this because I wanted something explained to me and quite frankly nobody explains really complex technology
Like tom peterson, he's amazing
Yeah, the thing is that aside from having a great personality and having a talent for dumbing things down
He really really understands it
And by really understands that I mean again can't tell you where I heard this
but word on the street is the guy basically invented g-sync and
Pretty much created the api that we use for nvidia overclocking that utilities like msi afterburner and evga precision hook into
Like the guy's important. He knows gaming really big. He knows graphics cards. Um
and
He's on team blue. Wow
Now to be clear a gpu like
Turing for example is not the brain child of one person. It doesn't work that way not even close
And it's not like nvidia's gonna be like, oh no
However, will we make another graphics card without tom?
There's a lot of smart people there. It's just that
This one is one that I would have fought. They would have worked pretty hard to hold on to then again
I might have said the same thing about roger kaduri who defected from amd over to intel
Uh, I think it was uh last year that team. I was I was joking around with some guys upstairs about how we should start doing
like fantasy team
stuff for gpu companies
Just to try to guesstimate who's in who intel's gonna hire next
Because like apparently that's what they're doing. They're just taking everyone that's like well, they hired kyle bennett. Yeah
Kyle bennett, yeah, okay
Anyways
Um, he'll be in charge of outreach to gamers and enthusiasts
I just I just don't know about if that's a good idea or not
I looked into
I was trying to talk to someone uh that i'm not going to name about that one
And I was like i'm just surprised because of some of the stuff that he like says
And they want him for outreach and then I googled like some threads with him included and I was like wow
Yep, i'm really surprised
That was an interesting move
I don't know. Um
anyways, one thing that I think is going to be pretty interesting is a lot of the
The communication from intel has been extremely gamer focused
And I fit it feels like that's their focus for their gpu's and over the last little while
It feels like invidious focus for the gpu's is not gaming. Yeah, it's data center. It's it's ai
Stuff like that deep learning deep learning cars all that kind of thing. Yeah. Yep. Um,
Yeah, i'm i'm absolutely
Absolutely fascinated to see how this plays out and I wonder what amd's place in the world is going to be
When it's intel going head to head with nvidia on graphics on the graphics side of things. I I don't know man
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I have a note in here. Don't forget to tease slash mention the roast of linus sebastian tonight. I think we spent uh,
I think we got that covered. I think we did that for a while
Oh, I think we're good. I think that's no problem
I'm so freaking nervous. Yeah, me too. The closer I get to it the more i'm just like
i'm trying to not
I don't know I go through sections where i'm like i'm just gonna try to not think about it
I'm gonna do some other stuff to take my mind off it, but then i'm like
I should be practicing or reading or like doing something. Ah, I know so little about what's going to happen
Yeah, all I know is little bits and pieces. I know that apparently
half naked butlers
Are gonna carry me in on a litter
What yeah, that's how I that's how I make my approach to the stage apparently what I know who are these people this is like
No, it's like a thing
What yeah, there's like a service that has like what?
You can hire butlers
That 100 must have been james. Oh, yeah, of course. I'm sure no one else was. No, of course not. Yeah
so so anyway, so like
I've heard these little boy
Bits and pieces of what's gonna happen tonight
But this is probably the least involved that I have ever been in a major project at this company. Yeah, because
out of necessity
I cannot know exactly what's going on
Are you worried about?
Because we talked about your your worries and one of them was a complication of you don't have really enough time per person
um, are you worried about
How i'm not going to ask for specific names or anything, but are you worried about how people will take your roasts at all?
or are you worried about the presentation and
Because I know you're worried about the writing because it's something you haven't really done. I'm not worried about people taking it badly
Okay, i'm i'm mostly worried about
I just don't want to be in the bottom half
The bottom half. Yeah
Of everyone's sets. I don't want to be the best. I don't expect to be the star of the show or whatever
I just don't want to be the worst. Uh, me too. Yeah, that's like
You don't want to be that one person at the roast that sucked yeah
I'm genuinely worried about mine in that regard. I think I think i'll do okay
uh, my problem is i've tested on people so far and they've all been like, yeah, that's
It's super great funny, but it's like my friends
So and the other thing you can't control too, I think like no I don't have time to edit it
The uh, the other thing that's like
Really scary too. Is that like
What if you come on after someone that bombed?
What if it's not your fault that the audience is half asleep?
Yeah, like what if what if what if what if what if by the time I get up because I go last
What if by the time I get up there?
The whole show is such a complete
Snore fest that like only the friends and family are left
What if I don't know and like I actually a pretty significant amount of people that i've talked to
Uh, don't enjoy roasts. I didn't know you didn't either but like
but like
What if the audience just isn't into it?
It's interesting it's something it's aggressively something we've never done before
Apache actually gave a review of the lambo roast
Good quality non-exciting blend happy for the quality, but i've had a phil's kick and that's miles more interesting
Wish they did something more dramatic to turn heads
And anger certain people with the lambo roast then hit something that's kind of for everyone and that's boring
Honestly, I will tell you that was my directive. I was gonna say I think they let you guys kind of design it
We designed it by consensus internally. Yeah, so we went with what everyone
Every coffee drinker in the building liked rather than something that was very polarizing that makes sense. So
Heck yeah, I guess because it went pretty much right with what he said. So linus tech tips merch has kind of a new directive now
um, it it honestly
doesn't matter like kind of how much margin we make on it or
If it's necessarily the most sensible thing to bring down the road map at this time or whatever
The thing is any ltt merch moving forward because I was really unhappy with some of the old stuff just needs to be
good, you need to get it and you feel like
Oh, they cared. Yeah, they cared enough that this is good
So i'm fine if it's a little bland, but I would be really upset if the quality of it was not acceptable
Yeah, so that was what that was basically that i'm just
Before getting on the show I would I had this bin delivered to me with my name on it with shirts
So I can't possibly forget things because everyone knows i'm pretty bad at remembering that kind of stuff, uh, which is great. Thank you
Lloyd, um, but I put the shirt on and immediately before the show even I was like, wow, it feels really nice
Yes, like the the shirts are just better the design's not out there or anything
This is a really this is a really simple dessert dessert
This is a really simple shirt that we'd like anyone to kind of quite complicated feel like they're not you know
Shilling for a linus media group by wearing it. They just it's just I just want to see like
A nice shirt that's comfortable and that they they like to wear. Um
And once we get that down once we feel like no, you know what?
Every item that ships from our warehouse
It's just nice then we can start to do some more out there stuff. Yeah, I gotta tell you the store has been doing
Amazing we did a coupon last week and we did the most orders that we've ever done in a week by a country mile
And we the thing is we still only got like what four or five shirt designs and like cable ties
And I think there's like one other thing like some of the really cool stuff that I think is gonna I made I bet nick
The have you seen the water bottle prototype? I think so. Oh, okay. I gave it to steve so I can't you won't have another chance
I'm pretty sure I saw it though. Yeah, I gave him our first prototype the one with the circuit board on it, right?
Yes, so matt black with a glossy black circuit board and linus tech tips on it
So matt black with a glossy black circuit board and linus tech tips up the side in orange
It looks incredible. I bet nick. I told him if we don't sell a thousand of them in the first
Like three days. I think I said I will be floored because it is so cool
It's so cool. Ltx
Is probably going to have full plain shirts
Oh, yeah, that's right. Not that many of them. Yeah, I don't yeah, we won't be printing that many
They're quite limited because I don't know how much interest there's gonna be but there's gonna be something
Basically if you want to support
luke
And rep luke
You can buy a boat plane
Yeah, I think like i'm gonna be buying some well, I guess
Yeah
I'm gonna be taking some or buying some or whatever giving them to float plane staff giving them some friends and family
I'm gonna be giving some to kyle and two tech deals so they can have some of their own and whatnot
And then there will be like
Some left that will be at the event. Um
So, uh, derek carpenter asked if i justine is going to be there if the question is about the roast tonight
The answer is unfortunately. No, I totally invited her and I would have loved to have her there and she was like omg
totally want to
Cannot make it work with my schedule and I was like, that's okay, dude. I totally get it. Um, but
She's not confirmed. So don't take this as gospel truth
My understanding is she is going to be making her absolute best effort to be at ltx this year though
So our roster of pretty much confirmed creators is now about 15
Did you know that?
Wait for what for ltx, okay. Okay. Yeah ltx is going to be nuts this year. That's actually really cool. I'm so excited
I'm crazy excited for ltx. A lot of them are pretty small like our our cutoff for
Like kind of how big you had to be in tech in order to get um free accommodation and travel was fairly reasonable
I think so
Yeah should be pretty good. Yeah. Um, all right. What else do we have to talk about?
There is some more tech news, right? Oh, we got to be out of here in like six minutes. Uh, uh, uh, um
Uh, uh
I think we're dropping frames like crazy
Oh, really like on this. I think so. There's a whole bunch four hundred and something
Why?
Did jake change it to gpu encoding or something
No, this still has like a 960 in it. I don't think it's uh
No, it's not
Hmm. I don't know what's wrong with this machine. Maybe we should just like upgrade it. It's only a six core
You know what? I noticed too is our our um our capture laptop the capture blade
I was trying to record on it today just 1080p 30
And it was at like 90 usage and it was dropping frames. I wonder if obs just got a little heavier
I don't know
anyway, we'll need to uh, maybe we should just upgrade this machine and
Throw more horses at it
Call it good
um
Yeah, guys, uh, yeah, I don't think the problem's on float plane because we're actually seeing obs drop the frames here. So
Uh, the machine that we're using to stream the show tonight is not this one
It's our streaming cart which we use for like our friday live streams and stuff like that. So I would expect that to be fine
Uh intel announces their broadest product portfolio for moving storing and processing data
They've got a whole bunch of stuff including their 56 core 12 memory channels the on platinum 9200 processor
They've got their second generation. Uh, oh, this is cool
So optane dc persistent memory is finally here so you can plunk an optane module into a dim slot
And you can have I forget what it is. Is it up to a
512 gigs or something can't remember exactly how much but you can have a ton of capacity
In memory as long as whatever you're doing is not particularly latency sensitive
And it'll allow you to work on much larger data sets for things like ai and deep learning all that kind of thing
That's cool. Their new agile x fpgas are built on 10 nanometer tech
So there's going to be fpgas out there that are built on really like the latest cutting edge process node
um, so we could expect to see better performance in things like
uh, for example high-end video cameras, so there's lots of products that you
Might kind of not think about like what kind of processor do they use? So an fpga is
a fully programmable chip
That can kind of pretend to be a purpose-built integrated circuit
So instead of using a general purpose processor that can come with all kinds of overhead
That causes it to consume more power or not be as efficient for a task and fpga can be programmed
Specifically to do just one thing really well and it's great for applications like video encoding in something like a red camera
the problem is that while an fpga is much more expensive than
An actual like custom fabbed chip
You don't have to have nearly the same volume in order to make your business model work
So as long as you can build enough margin into your product that you can use fpgas
Which can be hundreds and hundreds of dollars each just for your cpu
Then it's a great way to get performance that otherwise just wouldn't be possible. So higher performance fpgas
Great thing all around with that said I don't know anything about what the real world performance of these looks like just
Sounds pretty good. This is all just announcements right now. So just talking about the news
In other news, this was posted by rcmail on the forum amazon to offer broadband
Wow, I can't think of anything that could go wrong with that should I sign up for facebook's phone line while i'm at it
Yeah, that's uh, that's a little brutal in terms of the like
Literally owning your entire life thing, but it's going to be another one of those like
We're putting satellites in space kind of situations. I don't think they're doing land lines or anything like that
but they they're trying to
Increase the amount of people that can have access to the internet and have their home page forced to amazon.com
Yeah, so they're the project is code named project kyper. Yep. Um, something like that
Is that how you pronounce that? I think so. It's like k-u-i-p-e-r or something. Yeah, I think it's named after the kyper belt
Which is that makes sense? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I don't know how to pronounce it
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um
Anyway, their first public step took the form of three sets of filings made with the international telecommunications union last month by the federal
Communications commission on behalf of washington dc based kyper systems llc
And the filings lay out a plan to put three thousand two hundred and thirty six satellites in low earth orbit. Holy crap
So it'll be a constellation of satellites that will provide low latency high speed
broadband broadband connectivity to unserved and underserved communities around the world
This is a long-term project that envisions serving tens of millions of people who lack basic access to broadband internet
We look forward to partnering on its initiative with companies that share this common vision
Fantastic
Um, the united nations estimates that almost 4 billion people around the globe are underserved when it comes to internet access
They didn't provide a timeline for deployment
So I think we're gonna have to do a lot of work on this because it's gonna be a long-term project
I don't know. I don't know what we're gonna do. We're gonna have to do a lot of work on it. So
Don't blame them. I suspect it'll be a while and I guess that's honestly all that I have because we need to go
It is 5 59 and we need to drive. We gotta roll. So, uh,
For those of you on floatplane. We will see you there floatplane is three dollars a month
go to floatplane.com sign up the live stream will be in a couple hours like two two and a half hours and
Okay, okay, i'll go i'll go fast, uh, damon amd navi gps are gaining traction again in news media
What are your predictions and thoughts?
Man, it's amd rumors. What am I supposed to tell you?
I predict that it'll be whatever it is and the rumors will have no impact on that
We'll do the intro calm down brent says update for byfc tickets at ltx, uh coming later follow ltx expo on twitter
Uh, paul says I just want to say keep kicking ass guys. Thanks
Thanks, paul. Ryan. You guys are great. Keep it up. Thanks. Ryan. Uh, captain zero. Does the live stream on floatplane work on mobile?
Yes. Yeah. Yes
Yeah, I don't see why not. It's through the browser. It's not through the app
Yeah, although we do have an app update and live stream works on it
Uh revenant, what old school forums did you use to post an extreme systems.org extreme overclocking.com redflakedeals.com and mcix forums
Mostly ocn, but other stuff included, uh someone with a russian name
Sent us some rubles. You guys rock. Thanks russian guy or gal
Ryan, I may need to get floatplane now. Yes, you may need to you probably shouldn't have spent that two dollars on that super chat
You probably should have just spent it on floatplane, but that's okay
Good job, uh fanos gaming. Will you be doing more rgrig reboot?
Yes, if it's within our power we will but it's on asus whether it happens or not george
Why does luke's beard connect to the right side button not the left what must be a bug? Yeah, probably is
Yeah, it probably is. Uh matt get float plane for the live stream of the roast. Thank you. Matt
Uh, I just reading everything zion. Can you not get interchange rate for credit card processing?
What does that even mean?
Justin says just subscribe on floatplane interchange rate for card processing, huh?
Yeah, we'll have to figure that out. Oh, I think I know what he's talking about and
Nodded eric. You don't find it funny because you always roasted. Well, no
No, I mean when i'm watching other people's roasts t-bones says i'd love to subscribe to floatplane. Is there going to be an android app?
Yes
Um, it's not going to be open source anymore though. We uh changed our minds more on this at 11
Joshua steve equals tech jesus j equals tech judas minus equals tech moses
Because sandals thank you for that
um
Wow
Uh, okay
Uh, bye wait, uh the intro
They're gonna freak out. Hey, i'm a graphic designer gamer artist writer and photography. Obviously. I spend a lot of time on my computer
Can you recommend a good but budget chair?
Preferably racing as I found the most comfortable 250 bucks. Oh, honestly, I hate to be this guy but 250 bucks
For whatever reason is not a lot of chair
Um
That's the cold hard truth. I'm so sorry chairs are the one to break it to you. It's really expensive
Um, you're probably like a really good chair. You're probably looking at six or seven hundred
I'm, I I hate that there's no reason they should be it makes no sense to me, but they are
Um connor says can I come work for y'all so I can quit my semi-crappy job at the university working in their it department
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Not unless you applied recently when we posted job postings. Okay. Bye everyone intro. I got it. I got it. There we go
I got it. I got it. There we go. They would actually hunt me down and murder me as far as I can tell if we didn't run that
I hope the chat seems more active than the show. Yeah, are these people alive? Bear in mind we're still alive