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Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever. Every Friday, top Tech YouTuber Linus Sebastian and Luke Lafreniere meet to discuss current events in the tech world, a subject from which they do not stray. Hardly ever.

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So today, I don't think I could handle it right now.
Oh, okay.
I have had a fairly terrible last couple of days.
I have been fighting with my tape drive backup thing
that basically doesn't work on the PC properly.
And the guys that make it are like,
yeah, the truth of the matter is that the driver situation
from IBM on down just isn't that great on the PC
and it works better on a Mac.
So then I've been trying to get a Mac working
with 10 gigabit.
And so I was using the MacBook Pro
and 10 gigabit LAN to be clear.
So I was using the MacBook Pro and I ran into,
remember when I called you earlier this week?
Asking if you had the Core X.
Yeah, so I managed to have three external PCI express docs,
four 10 gigabit network cards, a variety of cables.
And I still couldn't manage to get,
like I even got down to the point
where I had a Thunderbolt chip set
that Apple hadn't specifically locked out
because we don't want to support it.
I managed to find one that didn't have a Thunderbolt chip
that was locked out.
So the enclosure worked on the Mac.
And I even managed to get a 10 gig ethernet card
with the exact same chip set that is already in use
in the iMac Pro.
But that still doesn't work
because there's some stupid beta of macOS
that you have to like update from an older one too.
And then it will flash cards that are not like Mac approved
to be Mac approved.
And then they just work
because the drivers are for the hardware,
not for like the stupid vendor ID
that actually doesn't matter.
But with Apple, it's just,
Anthony's way of putting it I think is great.
It's magic numbers.
It's not about whether it should actually work or not.
It's about making sure it has the right magic number.
That's actually one of his theories
about the whole throttling issue with the MacBook Pro.
Did you see this?
You hear about this?
The big thermal throttling thing?
And Apple fixes it with a macOS update
that they said was firmware,
but doesn't seem to be firmware
because it doesn't fix it in Windows.
So it must just be like a magic number.
Like a magic number detects the CPU correctly now.
No, it doesn't behave stupidly.
Oh, good.
Thank goodness for a genuine Apple approved hardware
and nothing else working at all.
Do you wanna hear my great story?
And then I've spent the last four hours dealing with this.
Do you think it's gonna be done by the end of WAN?
I hope so.
It's at 84% and this is like the third reboot now.
So I think we're getting close.
I may duck out of WAN and just finish that.
This is the last thing I'm waiting for.
I just wanna run Cinebench.
Sorry.
Sorry, everyone.
I'm having a rough day.
I just wanna run Cinebench and I can't
if Windows update is sucking back 25% of the CPU
in the background.
Right.
I just wanna know how much faster it is than last gen.
And I was thinking maybe I'd compare it to the Surface Go
since that arrived today.
Tried to live stream the Surface Go.
Turns out another video project we're working on
which is really cool by the way.
Basically we're given the this to Google,
but in a way that's like not just to spite them,
it's just we are abusing their services.
Oh yeah, I know.
In a way that's really cool.
Well, it turns out we're also abusing-
Fully within the terms.
Abusing the CPU of our router.
Oh.
Yeah, so it looks like that killed our stream earlier.
We were, we literally
like overloaded our router CPU.
And remember, this is not some,
this isn't some wimpy BS router.
It's a rack mounted router.
Yeah, this is an edge router pro from Ubiquiti.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like it's not some $100,000 stupid like Cisco thing
or anything like that,
but it is not an insubstantial piece of networking machinery.
I love this, I love this.
You sit and wait four hours for it
and then it's got this really friendly thing.
Just hold on for a second.
We've got some updates for your PC.
No, no, you had updates for my PC four hours ago.
This might take several minutes.
Yeah, at this point, what Dennis?
You want to hear my story?
I need you here for my story.
So I want to get it up before we're done.
Yeah, should we do the intro first?
Sure.
Okay, let's just do, whatever.
There's tech news, next gen Intel roadmap leaks.
Also Google search engine.
There's rumors about things worth a trillion dollars.
Boom.
Crazy.
It's one of those technology categories where it's just entirely small.
It's greater than, greater than, greater than, it's greater than, greater than.
Oh, cause you've got Linux fanboys in the mix too.
No, that's free BSD.
Yeah, whatever.
You know what I mean?
Actually,
Oh gosh.
Anyways, okay.
So did you remember at the end of last stream,
how I revealed how I finally bought a new chair?
Yeah, oh what now?
So the story of my chair is someone sat on the arm
and it broke the like middle support.
So basically my chair was tilted like this for four years.
In defense of your chair,
that someone was very likely to break that chair.
Yes, yep, yep, yep.
In fairness to your chair.
Yep.
I mean, I, anyway.
But to like, to compensate,
so I was looking straight at my monitor.
I basically sat like this for four years
and then recently went to physio and he was like,
wow, you need a new chair, you're an idiot.
So I decided to get a new chair.
Did a whole bunch of research, took like a month,
over a month for the chair to show up.
It's supposed to like keep you in a specific spot
so that your spine is like correctly aligned.
It's not supposed to be super comfortable.
It's supposed to keep you in the right spot.
It's kind of like a racing chair except not for a car.
So it actually makes sense.
So it's for going fast on your computer.
Yeah.
Anyways, the expected delivery date was August 6th.
You might notice that it is not that day yet.
I have had the chair for a while.
On, I believe the 31st or the 30th,
I don't remember if it was this Monday or this Tuesday,
I went out to get some lunch.
I had finished a relatively major milestone.
You know it, I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna reward myself with a booster juice.
So I decided to go outside and get some booster juice.
That's expensive, yo.
It is, booster juice is not that cheap.
Cost as much as a meal, but then you have to like.
It's like $4.
Yeah, I don't get them that often.
But I was like, yeah, I'm gonna, this is good.
I was very happy.
They're more than $4.
I was very happy.
Anyway, carry on with the story,
while I make a booster juice menu.
It's really expensive.
I go walk outside.
As I'm walking outside, I was like, whoa,
there's a giant cardboard box in the lawn.
That's weird.
And I just keep walking.
And then I'm like, I should probably like bring that inside
just in case it's like my upstairs neighbors.
And I go and I look at it closer
and I see Herman Miller plastered on the side of it.
And I'm like, what?
They just left it on the lawn?
They just left it on the lawn.
No notification text message, no notification email.
I had no idea.
I still have no idea how long it was sitting there.
When I moved it,
there was very much an impression in the grass.
So it had been sitting there for a while,
possibly all night,
because sometimes I don't leave my house for a while.
So I have no clue how long it was there.
Super expensive chair, big logo on the side of the box,
just left in the front lawn for who knows how long.
No notification that it was there, nothing.
They didn't knock, they didn't even notice.
Nothing happened.
So I'm immediately pissed off.
I bring it inside, I go get my food, I come back,
I go to open it.
First of all, there's like,
it's the worst cardboard box as the outer shell
that I've like ever seen.
And there's like rips where the handles were
because the guy's handling it.
And like, I don't even blame them
because if you try to pick it up, it just rips
because it's just a terrible cardboard box.
But I'm thinking in my head like,
oh, there'll be an internal carton, right, no big deal.
I open that up, nope.
Not only is there no internal carton,
that is literally the entire box for the chair,
there's also zero packing foam
or protection of any form at all in the entire box.
So it's just the chair just sitting there.
I was able to turn it around while it was inside the box,
just because I wanted to kind of try it out
and see how it goes.
Like it was actually the worst unboxing experience
that I have ever had.
That same day I like opened up a box for a mouse
and was like, wow, this is a way better experience
than the ludicrously obscenely illogically expensive chair
that I just bought.
I was so mad.
It's fine.
It like creaks when you move around.
It's mostly made out of plastic.
Like it's really, like the ergonomic chair market is insane.
Like it's, if we want to open another business,
we should just make ergonomic chairs
because you can just charge a billion percent
on what it costs to make it.
And everyone's just clamoring all over you
because they're all generally terrible.
It also doesn't really feel that great.
Like it's okay.
Right, but it's not supposed.
Yeah, okay, so yes.
That seems like a really smart sales pitch.
Oh, it's a brilliant sales pitch.
It doesn't have to feel good, it's ergonomic.
So it holds me in a relatively good position.
So I'm probably going to end up keeping it
because it'll be good for my spine.
Okay, sounds good.
The doctor dude says I like really need
to do something about that
because my spine's getting all weird
because I sit like this all the time.
So yeah, sounds good.
Okay, let's do it up.
Don't you think you need to sit like this all the time?
Yeah, like.
So, okay, I'm probably going to keep it.
Except like the base isn't foam,
which is kind of cool because it's breathable,
but they use these plasticky spring things
and that's great in most areas
except for where the reinforced bar is.
And you can like super feel this bar
that is just under you all the time.
Have you tried the OM5?
Is this the, we had like an orangey one?
Yeah, we did a review of it.
So my problem with that was it didn't lock?
The new one locks.
Oh, I might try that.
I can return my chair.
You know what?
You should come over.
Maybe come over in, oh, holy crap.
They have me quoted on their website.
I should make sure what they're saying isn't like.
Linus of Linus Tech Tips says the OM5
is the most comfortable chair.
They probably could have put some context around that.
I'm sure I did.
Let's have a look.
Do they link right to the timestamp?
I don't think so.
I bet they do.
I bet they do.
No.
Oh, no, all right.
Well, thanks for that guys.
Yeah, I'm sure I probably said that I've tried so far.
Return it in what box?
Someone said in the chat, sorry to cut you off.
I actually thought about this.
If I return the chair, I'm wondering like,
like if it shows up damaged, is it my fault?
I have all of the original packaging cause it's a box.
So like, there's really not a lot going on there.
Like I, but like who gets in trouble
if the chair's damaged when it, when it shows up.
Anyway, you should, you should try, wait.
Oh, actually, no, I don't know if the whole thing locks,
but the arm, the arm rests lock.
Like there's stuff they, they,
My problem was if I sat back at all.
Yeah.
I would just fall backwards.
So Yvonne has new ones or has one of the new ones.
Okay.
So you, I mean, give it a shot just to make sure,
because honestly,
I'll try it.
One of my biggest problems
with buying these ludicrously expensive chairs as well.
This one's not that bad.
It's 450 bucks.
That's way fricking better.
Is like, you can't generally try them anywhere.
Yeah.
Not in Canada.
If you're in like LA,
you can often go to a studio area and try them out.
But like, I can't.
So I had to go off of like a whole bunch of.
Just like, and buying anything like clothing.
Clothing or ergonomic based.
Food or chairs, like stuff that has a personal taste,
like a personalization element to it online
is really tough stuff.
It is, yeah.
Like Yvonne ordered some flip-flops off Amazon
and she just like, they were cheaper than buying in store.
So that's cool.
So she ordered two of them.
Yeah.
Just assuming that one of them would be a horrible fit
because you, because that's just the way it works.
And until we can, until we can 3D scan our foot
and submit that model off to something
to make sure something's going to fit for us.
There's nothing we can really do.
But I mean, I'm actually perfectly fine
with them having that quote on there.
Cause it's still the most comfortable chair that I have
and that I've tried.
I really like it.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
I, and like, see, people are,
people are recommending stuff in here.
The problem is that it doesn't,
it doesn't mean anything to me because I can't try it.
Yeah.
The only reason that I'm even bringing it up
is because I have the newest one at my house
and you can come try it.
And like the only reason why I got the chair
that I have now is because Marques has it.
Yeah.
Frank has it.
And I tried it at Sevetus' streaming area
because it's his chair.
So I don't want this to come across wrong,
but I wouldn't necessarily buy something
because like, you know, let's just pick one of them.
Like let's say, because Marques has it.
Well, no, I sat in Sevetus'.
He bought a Tesla surfboard.
That's a good point.
Not because it's a good surfboard,
because he's like, he's a very, like,
he's very on point with like,
whatever's the coolest thing right now.
The last point was the important one
was Sevetus has the same chair
and I sat in it for a while.
Right, okay.
And was like, okay, this is holding me in the right spot.
And it's the same reason why he has it.
He's a tall dude.
I believe he's slightly taller than I am
and it can hold his spine in place.
All right, so sorry to hear that.
Anyway, that was just, yeah, it was just horrible.
It was weird because I opened a Logitech mouse
and a Herman Miller chair.
Right.
And I expected like,
I expected the Logitech mouse unboxing experience
to be quite good.
It exceeded expectations.
I expected the Herman Miller chair unboxing
to be way too much.
And for me to be like, this is dumb.
I wish they didn't do so much packaging
because I could have saved some money.
And then it was like, wow.
I literally don't think they could have gotten it to me
if I saved any amount of money on the packaging
because it wouldn't have made it.
Or it would have been like some dude
just like handing me the chair
because he had to like walk it from the truck.
Rolling it.
Yeah, yeah, like here you go bud.
I've got it for you.
We're backing it up, we're backing it up.
Beep, beep.
So, so, so annoyed.
Give it some time and maybe Logitech
will just acquire Herman Miller
and then you won't have to worry about it.
Just like they acquired our first topic, blue.
Yeah.
Logitech has acquired microphone brand blue,
but don't be blue.
Da ba dee da ba da ba dee.
I don't know, you might want to be blue about it.
Honestly, there's not going to be much in terms of changes
as far as we can tell from Logitech's blog post anyway.
So.
Well, okay.
I will also give them the benefit of the doubt
in the way that they have not made very noticeable,
very large scale alterations to any other companies.
Yeah, like Ultimate Ears.
Oh, hold on a second.
There have been, there's been some frustration with Harmony.
Harmony?
Harmony remotes, yeah.
Oh, that's old though, isn't it?
Yeah, but that doesn't mean
that people didn't get kind of boned.
No, I hear you, but they might've learned from that.
We can hope.
They haven't made it, as far as we can tell,
they haven't made a lot of changes to Ultimate Ears.
It seems like this is kind of the thing right now though,
is your corsairs, your razors,
and your Logitechs of the world
are just scooping up any brand
that kind of matters in the peripheral space.
Like I think we are,
so we're on this weird trajectory right now
where over the last, I'd say five,
so going back maybe a year or two years ago,
and then five years before that,
we saw this incredible burst in diversification
in the peripheral space.
Yeah.
So we went from, you know-
Like every single person
was making some form of keyboard.
Yeah, like mechanical keyboards are a great example.
You had what, like Philco, Ducky.
I mean, do you remember when DAS keyboard mattered?
Leopold?
Yeah.
So you had a handful of guys making mechanical keyboards,
and then you had some more traditional brands that dabbled,
like SteelSeries had one mechanical,
or two, okay, the 6G and the 7G.
And then all of a sudden,
you walked around a show like CES or Computex,
and you could find literally 50 brands that made keyboards.
DAS is still relevant!
To you.
I like DAS keyboards.
Remember, relevant is a kind of-
So they're still relevant, but they're not mainstream.
Yeah, they can be as relevant as they want
to a very small number of people.
But when you look at the definition of the word relevant,
it's relative.
So-
So they were more relevant before.
Yeah, they were, in relative terms,
much more relevant than they are now,
when you've got brands like Corsair,
who, you know, for whom the monthly sales
of someone like DAS keyboard would be a rounding error.
Like that would be the samples they send out to media
when they launch a new keyboard,
to make sure that everyone and their dog
has tried the latest and greatest Corsair keyboard.
And hopefully it's sitting in places.
Yeah, exactly.
So there's this sort of relativity to relevantness.
Releventness, relevancy.
I don't know.
I'm trying.
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All right, shall we do some tech news?
News about tech?
Sure.
Next Gen Nvidia GTX.
The name has apparently been settled.
Dun, dun, dun, let's go ahead and share my screen.
Wow, I'm so surprised.
It'll be 2080 and 2070, that's kind of stupid.
I was expecting 1180 and 1170, we're going to win the day.
But I guess Nvidia is kind of going,
well, the rate at which we release new generations
of graphics cards has significantly slowed down.
So in order for us to keep having numbers go up
at a nice, you know, nice, good tick here,
we're going to have to chill out
on the just increasing the second digit kind of thing.
Yeah, I think they're also probably going with like,
if you increase the first digit,
instead of the, what way are we reading from?
The fourth digit?
So we had the 780 and then we skipped 800 series
because I don't know, it's unlucky or something, who knows?
And then we had the nine series
and then we had the 10 series and now we get the 20.
So when we go 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90,
do we get the 100 series?
Yes, but then do we get the 200 series?
And then are we back to the 200 series?
That's going to be confusing.
So in another like 20 years or so,
Nvidia is going to have to watch out for that train
coming down the tracks pretty slowly
and won't happen for a while,
but that could happen eventually.
Well, cause we had a 200 series already,
but that was a three digit 200 series.
This would be the 200 and 280 series.
The 2000 GTX, 2080.
You think they might just end up almost dumping that version
and go like GTX, like alpha one and like alpha two.
Or they could go straight to 300
because we never had a 300 series.
Yeah, we're not, I don't know.
Anyway, Manly Technologies, an Nvidia partner.
800 series was used in like mobile and stuff.
Yes, like OEM only or some stupid thing.
Manly Technologies, a vendor for Nvidia GeForce GPUs
just registered an ECC certificate
with the name GTX 2070 and 2080 included in the mix.
The GPU chips also contain GA-104 and GA-104-400,
both of which should be ampere based going by the code name.
So if you guys, I don't know if you guys ever noticed this,
but the second letter of an Nvidia code name
is the architecture.
So GP would be GeForce Pascal
and then GF would be GeForce Fermi.
So GA should be GeForce Ampere.
104 means that once again, we are getting not a big chip.
So 102 or 100 would be big chips.
I forget how it works.
What's the thing when they had to spin it twice?
I can't remember.
What was 580, GTX 580?
They had to spin it twice?
Yeah.
So GF 110, crap, I can't remember.
I can't remember.
But there's one aspect of the code name
that tells you if they had to,
if the first run was good enough
or if they had to spin again.
Oh, okay.
Weird.
It's not terribly important.
So it's a real certification,
but it is also still possible
that the company is using placeholder names
and the actual nomenclature is something else.
Although we are so close to when it is rumored
to be announced at Gamescom,
which starts on August 21st,
that it is hard to imagine
that they're planning to do a switcheroo
at the last minute.
And with that said,
I have seen packaging on Nvidia cards
come in with like stickers over top of old names.
And sometimes Nvidia will go so far
to throw the industry for a loop
that they will legitimately charge their customers.
So not like you, the end user,
but customers like EVGA,
they will literally charge their customers one price.
And then the day of the launch,
announce that it's a completely different price
and just issue a rebate after the fact.
They have actually done that.
Yeah.
So those guys are like,
I actually, I mean,
I've said this to enough people at Nvidia's faces
that I don't feel like I'm talking behind their back,
but enough with the cloak and dagger bull crap.
You guys just, just, just, just,
just release the release the product.
Okay.
Just, just chill.
It's just a graphics card.
Come on boys.
Like this is not.
No Linus, we're sending people to the moon.
No.
Mars.
Titan.
Can you do the next topic?
I can't.
I'm not even,
I'm not going to give you the satisfaction.
Gosh.
There's a super long topic about a UK committee
trying to battle fake news
that I don't even want to talk about at all.
Oh boy.
Battling fake news.
A levy on social media.
Wow.
So this is kind of like the,
do you remember that levy?
Oh, we are going to talk.
Okay.
Let's do it.
Well, I was going to talk about the levy on blank CDs
that we have here in Canada.
What?
You don't know about this?
No.
Yeah.
When you buy a blank CD,
it comes with like a,
it's like a couple cents or something like that.
But basically, it's-
Is it to like fund piracy?
Anti-piracy?
No, yeah.
It's to fund piracy.
Funding piracy.
Canadian government.
Yar!
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, no, it's to theoretically
to fund anti-piracy measures
or reimburse organizations that lost money
due to piracy or whatever.
Interesting.
Because obviously iTunes and Spotify
weren't a better long-term solution
than charging a levy on blank CDs.
So what they're proposing is a principle-based,
is, sorry, principle-based recommendations
designed to be sufficiently adaptive
to deal with fast-moving technological developments.
Principle-based recommendations from the government.
Literally buzzword suit.
What?
So it's a levy on social media and tech giants
to fund expanding a major investment
in the UK's data watchdog
so the body is able to attract and employ
more technically skilled engineers
who can analyze current technologies
and have the capacity to predict future technologies.
Okay.
I mean, so it's not like there aren't precedents for this.
This is similar to the way in which the banking sector
pays for the upkeep of the financial conduct authority.
There's a code for advertising through social media
during election periods,
limits to the most amount of money
an individual can donate,
and a major increase in the maximum fine,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so yeah.
There's gonna be some interesting laws
over the next little bit.
Sorry, I threw up a little in my mouth there.
I didn't actually.
It was just a burp.
And I was trying to hold it in
so that the poor headphone users at home
didn't have to have burp sound.
I mean, they ended up with it.
It was like really, I didn't expect it to be so loud.
Yeah, it was very, it was as unpleasant to feel
as it was for you to hear.
You had to reproduce it, yeah.
Yeah, no, you can't really do that.
Intel had some roadmap leaps,
which ironically are over on videocards.com.
Intel doesn't make video cards, at least not yet.
Maybe that'll be their new foray.
It is.
They hired Roger Ciduri.
Well, okay.
You just got wrecked.
Nope, nope, yeah, okay, hold on.
They're not making dedicated cards though, are they?
Go ahead, go ahead.
It's not a card, is it?
Oh yeah.
It is?
Apparently.
Oh, I actually didn't know it.
Yeah, okay, I can't wreck it.
I was just having some fun with him.
They're actually making a physical, like, peace IE card.
That's the plan, apparently.
Yeah, that's the word on the street, okay?
Like it's not on a roadmap anyway.
Cause I knew they brought him on to help with the like,
oh, we're gonna have your, the like AMD,
or sorry, the Radeon group technology on CPU
and we want like whatever.
Oh no, yeah, no, I think that collaboration
between Intel and Radeon technologies might,
if anything, be more strained moving forward.
Like I don't think AMD was super thrilled
about Raja moving on.
All right, okay.
I do wonder how much a Raja Kaduri costs.
Like if I wanted to hire Raja,
like how would that even, how would that even work?
Like how do you poach a guy like that?
And I wonder what- Literally industry legend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I wonder what kind of like benefit style stuff
you'd have to bundle in.
Yeah, he'd probably have to like,
he'd probably have to have like, you know,
like in a day, cause you can't just be money.
Like it'd have to be like in, in like dogs, you know,
or like, well, no, I don't know.
Like there'd have to be some kind of like additional benefit.
Like you'd have to have like a,
like a guaranteed like staff.
Like you're gonna have two personal assistants
and this and that.
So it's like, it's more than just money.
You'll have access to the executive jet
from time periods X to Y.
You'll have this much sabbatical every two years
and like, like that kind of thing.
Like I, I would be really curious.
It's gotta be extra stuff
because beyond a certain point, not everyone,
but a lot of people will stop caring
at least as much about money.
And it will take astronomically more
to make it really worth their while.
So you want to start putting in other stuff.
Yeah, you have to start building like a benefits package.
I've actually spent very little time
with people who I would consider to be like real executives,
but I did spend some time with the executive assistant
of an executive at a very large tech company
a little while ago.
I was, I was at a dinner and I ended up at the table
with like kind of the, like the assistants and stuff.
And honestly the conversation there was far more interesting
than what I would have gotten sitting
with the executives, I think,
because it's all the like, the like scuttlebutt.
So they have rules like how often the executive assistant
has to swap out.
And that position is considered like a really tough position
because you actually end up doing like a lot
of the executive's actual work,
but it's considered a stepping stone
because you just have all this access to other executives.
So you get your name out there.
You get your name out there and-
So they swap like between each other
or you just only, you have like six months
to like make your mark.
It's more than that.
It's like two years or something like that.
But then you have to hire a new one.
And then that person goes on to a different position.
Cause remember that a lot of large companies
have policies and programs in place
where people can change jobs quite frequently
within the company.
And it's something that's encouraged.
Just so that people won't stagnate,
but so that they can retain their best talent.
See, my strategy for that is to force people
to work on things that they don't want to work on.
So that when they're done that they get to go back
to work on something that they want to work on.
They can be excited to go to work
just to go back to their regular job.
Thanks guys.
Sorry, AJ.
You're almost done, dude.
In other news, here's that leak we were talking about.
So apparently there's some kind of new,
is he in chat?
Oh, that doesn't work, Luke.
Well, didn't it?
He told me it did.
Is he lying to me?
Because I'd love to know.
I'm watching for AJ.
Is he misleading me?
Oh boy.
Does Floatplane even exist?
Like, is this, do you even work for us?
Oh boy.
Dot, dot, dot.
Dot, dot, dot.
Nah.
Meanwhile, Luke's just been siphoning all the money.
Yeah.
And AJ's like, what, there was money?
Floatplane, what's that?
All right, so, okay, this roadmap.
So apparently in 2018, we are getting a 9,700K, okay,
according to the roadmap leak.
And then sometime in Q3 of 2018,
there's gonna be something called a 9,900K,
which is gonna be higher end
than the existing Core i9s or something.
Someone in chat said siphoning money to afford your chair.
Technically I saved for four and a half years
to buy that chair.
Yeah, you look at it that way.
Technically I've saved for 10 years to replace my car,
so I should just run out and buy a Model X then, right?
Oh boy.
By that logic.
This one was like highly recommended.
You know what's really funny is I-
I'm probably gonna return it.
I'm supposed to be shopping for cars
because I have made a commitment to my life.
Okay, I was gonna say, when I drove up today,
like when it was pink and stuff, it was pretty bad.
You got the dick butt on the mirror
or on the back window is pretty bad.
It's bad now.
Like it's like a different level.
It actually looks like it has a disease.
I'm actually tired of it now.
Like it's the only car that I know of
that I've ever looked at that I'm like,
that is problematic.
Like it's not even funny.
No.
It's just an eyesore.
It's too far.
I haven't been pulled over yet.
I've been daily driving it.
Okay, you know what?
Let's get through these leaks first.
So the 28 core part that Intel teased back at Computex
is apparently gonna be a brand new market segment
with a different chip set and socket.
I mean, anyone who knows anything would have known that.
3647 socket.
And then probably some kind of cut down version
of their C620 whatever chipsets.
There's gonna be a basin falls refresh in November, 2018.
Okay.
Glacier falls put in production later.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, so back to the car.
So I have made a commitment to my wife
that I will replace it
by the time the next service period rolls around.
When's the next service period?
Now I committed to that
because my intention was to sort of just keep driving it.
Yeah.
Because there's gonna be,
was another 8,000 kilometers,
about 5,000 miles left
before it needed to be serviced again.
But I'm starting to come around
to getting on that a little earlier.
But the stupid thing is that, honestly,
look, I'm not gonna lie to you guys,
I can afford a new car.
Yeah.
Obviously.
We, you know, and I don't even mean like brand new car.
Like I can afford to replace that car
with something better than that car.
Probably most of you watching
could afford to replace that car
with something better than that car.
You could buy something for 500 bucks
and it would probably be better than that car.
Okay, shut up.
Be nice to my car, okay?
I'm not even kidding.
It has served me well.
No, no, no.
Look.
It has.
I'm allowed to talk.
I'm allowed to speak badly.
We thought it was-
You're not.
We thought it was gonna die.
You haven't earned it.
We thought it was gonna die in 2013.
Yeah.
We were surprised it was still alive in 2013.
So anyway,
so I'm getting pretty tired of it.
But my original plan was to just keep driving it
until that service
and then figure she'd probably have gotten used to it
by then and then just keep driving it.
But she's not getting used to it.
I'm not getting used to it.
When you get your new car.
Yeah.
It's not exciting at all.
Remember how we used to,
I probably used to have all those ideas
of like getting a computer in the trunk
and having like screens on the back of the seats.
Yes. I've wanted to do that with the minivan for a while.
The issue is we can't find a sponsor.
Oh.
Yeah.
Cause we don't have the expertise
to like completely rework the interior of a car
to do it properly.
Yeah.
And so we'd want to work.
We'd want to collaborate with like a shop
that's capable of that,
like doing a good job of it.
And so there'd just be costs associated.
And since it's not the kind of thing
that actually has much practical use,
it's not the kind of thing I just want to pay for
out of pocket.
Cause it wouldn't be cheap.
Yeah. Cause you could actually do wireless
for most of it.
Yeah.
Like pretty much all of it,
but power and mounting the monitors.
Yeah. Like I wouldn't want it to be janky.
So there, there are some possibilities
and I don't want to get too far into it,
but we have some ideas.
Okay.
But yeah.
Are you leaning towards a car at all?
So that's the thing is I'm supposed to be car shopping
cause I have agreed.
But you're not.
And I want to,
I ended up spending probably a grand total
of about 40 minutes car shopping.
Okay.
And since then,
all I've been researching is motorcycles.
There are some super cool electric motorcycles
out there now.
So I'd never really had any desire.
But you have one.
I know, I know, I know.
Shut up.
I'd never had any desire to replace my SV650S.
It's a 2003,
but that's the first year that it had fuel injection.
Okay. Question.
Sidebar question.
Does that bike have ABS?
Good bike.
Ah, no it doesn't.
Cause that like wasn't a thing that blew my mind.
That's apparently a newer thing on bikes.
ABS. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Weird.
So yeah, no, my bike doesn't have ABS.
It's pretty bare bones,
but it's got the V twin engine,
which I really like.
It's got lots of pull in the low RPM range.
It's actually,
especially now that I'm more used to it,
it's really light.
Like it's not light compared to a dual sport or something,
but it's light,
it's maneuverable.
And it's honestly got enough power that,
unless you're an idiot,
you don't really need more than that.
Like if you're doing anything other than going
in a straight line,
there's not much reason to have much more power than that.
At least on the road,
like on the track,
whole different story, whatever.
Talk about your favorite track bike
amongst yourselves, please.
But there's,
there's this bike called the Lightning that,
zero to 60.
Trying to roast me about a chair.
Zero to 60.
That was like recommended by a physiotherapist
because my back has problems.
And you want to replace your car with a bike
and you already have a perfectly good bike.
Zero to 60 in two seconds.
How do you stay on it?
I want to find out.
Oh my goodness.
Oh man.
Is this your, so is this your midlife crisis?
The funny thing about it is I've always joked with my wife.
Like I couldn't possibly have a midlife crisis
because I've been midlife crisis-ing my whole life.
I bought a motorcycle like eight years ago, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So, so the thing that,
the thing about bikes is that they're cheap.
And by cheap, I don't mean that $40,000 isn't a lot of money.
I mean that for literally the fastest bike on the planet
compared to literally the fastest car on the planet,
we're talking an order of magnitude difference in price.
Yeah.
So for the price of like a basic minivan,
which I recently purchased,
you could have the fastest bike on the planet.
Zero to 60 in two seconds.
But you can't even use it.
Oh, you can accelerate, especially an electric motor.
There's dangerous takeoff.
Yeah, you can.
If your wheel spins.
I'd love to learn to do a wheelie.
That's also not legal.
And the 650, yeah, on the road.
It's legal to do it elsewhere.
They have like stunt riding courses and stuff.
Like that'd be a lot of fun.
Shut up.
Anyway, anyway, so I'm supposed to be shopping
for a car.
I have actually spent the vast majority of my time
shopping for a bike.
Now, with that said.
So would you sell yours?
Range on the lightning, I think is like 150, 200 miles.
Also someone in the chat had a question.
What is the mileage or kilometers on your Lambo?
On the Lambo, it's about 200.
It's a little over 220,000.
It's just the wrong thing.
220,000.
Yeah, a little over 220,000 kilometers.
There you go.
What the crap is this?
You know what's great is the mobile version has, shut up.
The mobile version of Chrome has a thing
where when you're stuck in one of these back loops
where it just keeps reloading,
like it forwards you a few times.
So you can't spam click back to get back.
On the mobile version, you can tell it,
don't let this page bring up any more prompts,
but the desktop version doesn't.
That's lame.
It owns a Lambo, welcome to the party, dude.
Yeah, sure.
We're talking about my Civic.
It's a joke.
It is a super low joke.
Yeah, so this is the thing I've been looking at.
That's a nice look.
And by looking at, I mean, drooling over.
Oh, it's so beautiful.
Don't look at this.
Wow.
Don't look at that kind of thing.
Okay.
Let's see, I'm just trying to remember the range.
Yeah, okay, so the 20 kilowatt hour battery pack
is 160 to 100, yeah, 100 miles range at highway speed,
but there's different battery pack options.
So they're probably talking about this one.
I love how you knew that.
The basic, yeah, no, I knew there were different batteries.
A couple of things I still don't like.
It's pretty heavy.
It's significantly heavier than mine.
Battery packs, I'm assuming?
Yeah, it's probably mostly on the batteries,
but so, okay, I haven't actually pitched this
to the wife yet, but let me try something out on you
and see how it goes.
Okay, first, I need to know though,
because this would be important for her as well, for sure.
Are you selling your bike?
Sure, I'll sell my bike.
I don't really have anywhere to keep it.
And are you then not replacing the car?
Oh no, I'll replace the car.
So you're gonna get this and a car.
Okay, just shut up, shut up, okay.
She's gonna ask these things, man.
Hold on, hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
So let's ask these things.
So pretty much everyone and their dog has been like,
you're a tech guy, got a Model S.
That's boring.
Okay, well, actually, that's kind of my response to that,
because the funny thing about the SuperCivic
is that it's horrible,
but if your car is supposed to be a reflection
of something about you,
like your car does say something about you,
the SuperCivic, for better or for worse,
is the Linus Mobile.
So you want something super fast and electric
because you're super fast.
No, no, no, no, it's not that, it's not that.
I just mean, I mean, it's been-
Because this is a reflection of your personality.
It's been hard for, no, no,
I'm not talking about this right now.
I just mean, it's been hard for me to replace
the SuperCivic for multiple reasons.
One, I hate car shopping.
Two, it really is such a perfect fit for me.
Not now, but it was.
It was before it got a little too far.
Now it's too much.
It was the Zero F's Mobile.
Super practical, reliable.
Cheap.
Cheap.
Standard.
Super cheap.
Standard everything, even windows.
That I wasn't a fan of.
No.
Although windows are okay.
No AC was a problem though.
Yeah, it's getting worse every year.
Yes, it's been really bad.
We had a heat wave recently that sucked.
Anyway, so it's been like the Me Mobile
and it's been hard to find something
that says anything about me.
A Model S doesn't.
No.
That's my issue with the Model S.
The Model S says absolutely nothing
about Linus, Sebastian, the person
other than, oh, you're a tech guy.
Get a Model S.
Okay.
It's also really expensive.
It's also really expensive.
But, but based on that everyone's telling me
to buy a Model S, I figure people won't be like mad
if I say, look, I haven't replaced my car in 10 years.
I'm getting a Model S.
Do you think people would resent that?
I don't think people would be mad.
I don't think it works for you.
I think it's ludicrously expensive.
Okay.
Okay.
So let's assume that people, you know
and there's no right to repair on Model S's on Tesla.
I've heard a lot about this recently.
Right to repair on this is like,
like Tesla and right to repair are like not friends
which this is, I very recently heard about this
but that's not a, that's not.
So I'm going to pitch something here.
I'm going to pitch something here.
For the cost of one Model S,
I could get a Clarity plug-in hybrid
for the daily commute and a super bike.
That doesn't mean you're supposed to spend
that much money.
It means that I could.
But it doesn't mean that you're supposed to.
And it would be the same as if I got a Model S.
But you shouldn't have gotten a Model S.
But I, but.
So you probably shouldn't do this.
Okay. I want to hear from Twitch chat.
I need a second opinion.
Of course they're going to tell you to get it.
I need a second opinion, second opinion.
Okay. Okay.
People are like MKBHD got a Model S.
That makes a lot of sense.
Don't know about Linus.
Okay.
I could, but am I gonna?
Super bike means midlife crisis.
Dude, dude, dude, dude.
What?
Okay. Vaughn, can I pitch you something?
This is really important.
Okay. So, so, okay.
We need a straw poll.
No, no, you got it.
You got it.
I'll do the straw poll.
Can you, can you stop pull it up?
Okay. So I, no, no, no, no, no.
She can just, she can come, she can come sit with me.
We're, we're, we're good friends here.
You guys hang out sometimes?
We can, we're not afraid of a little bit
of physical contact made three babies, you know?
Okay.
Ow, all the keys in my pocket are killing my thigh.
You're why are you still so bad at this?
What?
Killing my, killing my lap.
Actually, I also have like keyboard in my pocket.
That's not helping.
Okay. Okay.
That's not my fault.
Okay. I need to, I need to reach the thing.
Okay. So I'm going to run.
What is this straw poll question?
I run something by you get it or don't get it.
Cause we don't want to tell her what's going on yet.
Okay. So model S costs.
Are we really talking about it?
I had the same reaction.
Just a second.
Just a second.
Okay. So the model S costs, why is it?
Why don't they just put loan?
What is, what is the difference between lease and loan?
That's stupid.
Like what is a, what is a loan?
No, a loan I think is when you get financing.
Oh financing.
Why don't they just say financing?
Well, that is what that means.
Okay. So a model S is anywhere from,
okay, the federal tax credit.
This is us.
Oh crap.
Okay. Well, whatever.
It's about 85,000 Canadian plus whatever.
I mean, I would, there's no way
I wouldn't get the autopilot upgrade and stuff like that.
So let's say about 80 to 90,000 Canadian.
Okay. So would I be allowed to get a model S?
Why? I thought you didn't want a model S.
No, that's not the point.
That's not the point.
You did want the model S.
You didn't want the model X.
Okay.
So would I be allowed to get one?
I don't know.
It just has to make sense.
Okay. But could I,
could I make some kind of argument
that that would make sense?
No.
What?
Probably not, actually.
Okay. Why?
Because it's not practical.
It's not really-
Seat seven.
It's not really you.
Seat seven.
Yeah, but a minivan seats how many people
and costs a fraction of that.
Okay. Yeah.
This much may be true.
Okay.
I mean, okay.
So, so from a practicality standpoint, no.
Okay.
But if it was just like, I really want this.
Okay.
You could probably make that argument.
Okay. I can go good, good, good, good.
Okay. That's all I need.
That's all I need.
Okay.
So now how about this?
How about a very practical car that costs half as much
and a super bike that also costs half as much.
How about that?
You're not getting the super bike.
Yeah.
But it's a lightening.
Zero to 60 in two seconds.
Two seconds.
Does that sound like a good thing
for the father of your children?
I don't want you to die.
We have life insurance now.
She said that so excited.
All right. Thank you.
Well, it was worth a shot.
Oh my goodness.
You know, it's funny.
That was fantastic.
I would say I should just do it anyway.
Oh, I have to go.
Don't I?
We all have to go actually.
Okay.
I would say that I should just do it anyway.
But the cold hard truth is
she completely controls all the money.
Yeah.
I wouldn't be able to buy a hamburger
without her knowing about it.
Like it's actually a problem.
Like I can't surprise her with a gift or anything
because all the credit cards-
Withdraw cash.
It's actually, yeah.
But if I withdrew cash, it would seem very unusual.
If it was any more than like a hundred bucks here and there.
Like I like to carry a little bit of cash
because a lot of places in Richmond only take cash.
Yeah.
But that's the only reason I carry cash.
So unless I like flip something on Craigslist recently,
I don't have a ton of cash on hand.
So if she saw like, you know,
a few hundred dollars come out of the account,
she'd be like, hey, does someone have your card?
Someone have your pen?
Yeah.
You're like, no, no.
Well, what was this withdrawal?
Cause it's literally her job.
Like actually her job every day
to keep track of all the money.
Yeah. No, no.
It's not like a control freak thing.
She's just literally the financial officer
of both our family and our company.
So yeah, there'd be.
Okay. Well, let me, let me see the straw poll.
Can I at least see the straw poll results?
I haven't even seen it yet.
Okay. What's the URL here?
Is it case sensitive?
Oh, it's pretty close.
Strawpoll.me/, what do we got here?
162, 063, 67.
Okay. Let's have a look here.
Let's show the results with everybody.
Let's get these in real time.
I mean, I got to vote.
I got to vote, right?
Yeah.
Like, you know, Obama got to vote for himself.
So I should get to vote for myself.
Get it? Vote.
Okay. Let's have a, have a look at these,
these here votes here, there.
Wow. Straw polls got to work on that there thing.
They got going on with the apostrophe.
Someone in the building has already voted.
Oh really?
Did you vote?
Yeah, I voted.
Oh, so it was me.
Oh, did you not get to vote?
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
Oh, what a big bummer that is.
Oh, bummer.
So Vaughn, it looks like you were wrong.
56% of people said, do it.
Yeah.
So, I mean, this is a democratic society.
You know, might makes right, quantity in numbers.
Okay. That's it for, that's it for the rant show.
Thank you for watching and we'll see you again next week.
Same bad times, same bad channel.
It's not the argument you want right there.
Oh boy.
What's an AE86?
I got someone in, someone in Twitch chat.
It's a Toyota Trino AE86.
Very legendary car.
I've got a lot of people telling me to get Miata's,
or get a Miata.
This car is sick actually, but for,
like, because it was really good at drifting.
Like the, the, the, like main dude that popularized
drifting did it in this car.
Like the first like movie, I think it was on VHS.
That was like super into drifting was from Japan
and he was driving a Truno 86.
Okay. Yeah, no, that's fine.
All right. Bye everybody.
Bye.