Well, that was fun. I think we're actually live for real this time and you know third time's the charm. Yeah
So let's go through our topics extremely quickly
We're gonna do the million subscriber giveaway this week on the land show live here in front of all of you
We're gonna talk about Apple's Bendgate fiasco with the iPhone 6 plus. He's lost his topic introduction privileges
I've covered this before but for those of you who are
Especially watching this and didn't watch the first two fall starts of the show
I gotta make sure I throw that in there Paul and Kyle have both left new egg
And we're gonna have them on the show to talk a little bit about what's going on
Maybe we'll do some Twitter blitzing and Intel spent a metric bucket ton of money on their new 10 nanometer
process manufacturing
facility in
Israel or will rather it's not like done yet. We can't have 10 nanometer processors yet
But soon we hope
See if this works
Yeah, I don't hear any sound Oh dance dance dance
Yeah, anything that's funny
Okay
Anyway
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So we've got a lot of great topics for this week. Can I help you? Nope
Okay, a lot of great topics for this week. There's a rumor that is on
WCCF tech although don't freak out. It's actually originally posted by PC tuning that
Nvidia's Maxwell GM 200 GPU could be coming as soon as q4 of this
Year, so it's rumored to have a die size of five hundred and fifty one millimeter squared making it the big core in the Maxwell
family with over
2500 CUDA core so anywhere from 25 60 to 28 16 and
So
We decided to troll you a little bit if you notice your shirt is slightly different than my shirt
My shirts better. My shirt has three people and so do all of theirs
I know so there's a whole bunch of shirts that have three people
Attention to what's on the shirt there's fractal Josh in the middle because he's super tall
Yeah, and he's bro, like bro fisting me. Yeah, and then throwing a pie in your face
Yeah, that's a pretty lame shirt
Well, I told him I wouldn't tell you but Brandon might have leaked this
Initially, he's like oh nice shirt
And then I turned around I'm thinking that you put your tape over mine. So I have I have prepared in advance
my rebuttal
Which is that you are fired
You are no longer allowed to be on my like arm and legs
Could have at least told me
Well, I told him I wouldn't tell you guys
But then I did but then Wow
Wow, what I want that smash back
Get rekt Josh says if people want these shirts blow up his Twitter handle
I don't know if you guys heard that but apparently if I wanted the shirt self grow fast
We only need one bro. That's just depressing. No, we only need one bro. It's kind of sad. I feel bad for you
Feel bad for you. You just lost your job
Yeah, get ready still here
I
Yes
Anyways, so I guess we should talk about the graphics card
Yeah, so back to that graphics card that we've talked about sort of one and a half times already
This rumor actually kind of makes sense
So it's they're saying it's gonna have a 384 bit memory bus
Approximately 50% boost in performance over the GTX Titan black and that it'll have double the performance per watt of the gk110
Which powered the 780 780 TI Titan and Titan black?
so this all actually makes a great deal of sense and is in line with Nvidia's usual strategy of one big core a
Medium-sized core which we can tell just by looking at gm2 o4
That's what that is. Yes. That's not the top top tier card and
Or at least the eventual top tier Maxwell card and then the trickle-down keeps on going from there. So I don't know I
Go the one thing that we're both not entirely sure about is the q4 2014 launch date or or they're saying
Should be within two months. That sounds a little bit extreme. Maybe yeah, and I mean if that happens
It'll be a compute card like a Tesla or a or maybe even a quadro maybe not a consumer grade card
Although I mean who knows maybe maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it'll be Titan 2 or something like that. Yeah could be possible
All right, moving on to our next also in video related news the kingpin
Oh, sorry, that first one was originally posted on the forum by big strewns
Thank you for that. I don't know if it's trunes or like stroke
No one's really sure that's the thing about online handles yeah, it's like our capitals emphasis
How can you ever really get a handle on something? That's just digital data
Well, could grabbing a hard drive be getting a handle on digital data or an SSD
Because you're technically holding it I
Think this might be the longest silence we've ever had on the wan show I
Basically talk constantly don't I didn't we have it? No, because I think we had like a one-minute silence for something
Did we I think there was yeah, whatever it was. It was probably something inappropriate or something
Whatever it was. It was probably something inappropriate and not something. Yeah. No deserved one minute a hundred percent
I don't I think so
I don't know what it was, but it like didn't make a ton of sense
But we had a we had a minute silence for it seems like the kind of thing I would do
I'm alright, so mech 777 posted on the forum that
Quote-unquote Maxwell is an overclocking monster kingpin and tin have cracked two gigahertz plus this was on ln2
Yeah, I mean to be clear you won't be cracking two gigahertz plus unless you cool with liquid nitrogen
But I got any more details while I there they're running their core at 2103 megahertz and their memory at
1753 so all of that is just generally insane
Again, though ln2 liquid nitrogen they ran fire. You got a fire strike score of
1940 and they got a fire
19,000 40 yeah my bad and they got a fire strike extreme score of 91 91
absolutely ridiculous
Apparently the overclock was attributed to low power consumption. Yeah, low power consumption
I mean also any of the other optimizations that in videos made in Maxwell
There's a lot of stuff that's still under the hood with Maxwell, but I think they're either waiting for the bigger core to
Reveal I mean that's what that's what they do they tend to kind of pace the releases of their news
I'm speaking it's like competitions good
Because if there isn't a ton of competition that pace can go at whatever speed they want and if they're like well
If we develop slower, then we don't have to spend as much on R&D and they just slow the pace down
Well, I don't think they're doing that me neither. I'm saying just in general. That's why competition is good
I think it's just the way that the way that the the way that the R&D is being directed these days
Where they still have to continue to develop and stay competitive in
In
HPC for example, so there they still want to pump better GPU cores as fast as possible
We just might end up with ones that are more compute optimized
And this has been happening over the last few years that also happened to be fantastic for gaming as well. Yeah
Okay. Now that's a lot of good in video news, but I have some very unfortunate in video news as well
This is something that's not actually on the dock and I I noticed and I had someone assure me that it wasn't a big deal
But I was pretty sure it was a big deal
I noticed that their editors day that the PCs were running with shield controllers plugged into them
I was like, oh, yeah
I thought that wasn't PC compatible at least not yet and so it has been confirmed by Nvidia that it wasn't and
The version of GeForce experience and the latest driver that came out with GTX 780
980 rather now supports shield as a controller on your PC, which is our shield controller not shield
It's really scary when someone says that there's bad news and then proceeds to only give you good news
Oh, yeah, the bad news is coming
so the unfortunate thing and this is only moderately bad news is that it doesn't work wirelessly on your
Computer and that makes sense because it's Wi-Fi direct and to my knowledge
Nothing Wi-Fi direct connects directly to your computer yet as far as I know the even the much worse news is
Where is it?
compatibility
Okay, Android devices, etc
Okay, it only works on their own Android devices, which I kind of get again Wi-Fi direct whatever games controllers
Can I use the shield wireless controller with a PC?
Yes, the shield wireless controller is compatible as a wired controller with Windows 7 or Windows 8
running GeForce experience
Wow
so
Just for just for giggles. I tried to install GeForce experience on a computer
That wasn't running a GeForce graphics card. It goes no supported hardware and boots you out
So the only way to install the driver for Nvidia's like game controller is to have an Nvidia graphics card in your system
This is extremely offensive and I think if you install
Just judging from over got this card overclocking and testing if you install GeForce experience with an Nvidia card plugged in and then swap
It just won't run. That's right. So this is this is incredibly disappointing to me
I don't understand why Nvidia wouldn't want anyone to enjoy the experience of using their controller
I don't Tim. I reached out to them for comment two days ago
I gave them two days to reply to my message about this and I was like, what's going on?
Yeah, I was gonna say they might have just overlooked it
They might have just bundled it into the GeForce experience driver
So we will update you guys next week on when show if we hear back anything else or I'll try to I'll try to
Tweet it out when I hear back about it, but for now
You can't just install a driver into my knowledge
There's nothing about the controller that would make it not work
Like maybe the touchpad might not work or something if if you didn't have GeForce experience
It should just work as a standard controller with GeForce experience
Well, I don't know like it might be some kind of emulated mouse something like that should be able to just be in a driver
You would think that but I can see why that might take longer to implement
For example, because the rest of the way the controller works is exactly like a standard Xbox controller
Yeah, I just don't see what GeForce experience does that would have anything to affect the touchpad
So it would be nothing it just driver through GeForce experience or implementing the driver through standalone or not
Because they do some funny stuff with things like mouse control over shield and stuff like that
Like it depends how it was implemented. So I don't know. I'm just saying I don't know
I'm not saying that definitely it wouldn't work whatever the point is that it should at least work as a controller. Mmm
That's it. And the fact that they are not allowing it to do that is just
Super crappy. I mean think about think imagine this for a second
let's say someone who wants to use oh, I don't know steam in-home streaming on an ultrabook and happens to have a
GeForce powered gaming machine elsewhere in their house and thinks. Oh great. I'll just use my controller
I'll plug it into my to my notebook and then I'll stream to myself from my freaking GeForce PC
That will not work and that is a huge oversight from Nvidia. I'm extremely upset about it
I just think this is locking things away for the sake of locking them away as
Opposed to for the sake of maintaining the end-users experience, which is what I do believe they do do a lot of the time
unfortunately, this is evidence that not everything that they do is necessarily for the sake of
Making sure the end-user has a good experience because this is not a good experience and there's no reason for it
Again, they could have possibly just there could possibly be a reason we will update you if there's a reason I haven't heard back yet
I more thought of it as an oversight
But we will see so there you go
We said we would pull them in at around five did we all right
So let's bring in our guests
Shall we we have Paul formerly of Newegg TV and Kyle formerly of Newegg TV?
now of Paul's Hardware and
Awesomesauce news boy are they ever ugly?
That's awesomesauce network for you sir
All right, so what you do more than news now. Is that your thing? Yes, exactly. It's a bit more all-encompassing than
The news tagline all-encompassing you say what do you encompass by the way?
Okay, so for those of you who aren't familiar with these jokers
We've got Kyle right here and Paul right here and they will be living between us
I don't know why that's really and they'll be completely replacing Luke
We joined in
I've actually been wearing this all day. I didn't even know that anything was going on with your team trolling you
This is just pure coincidence
so it must be it must be and then he got here right as you guys were revealing the
The you all had the shirts on I was like, oh, I've got one too. This is how Paul answered door five minutes ago
And I'm rolled to his house. He opens everything. He looks music. I have to change my clothes
It's very very important thank you guys for having us. Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. Oh apparently you guys are pretty loud
Hold on a second. I'm gonna turn you all down a little bit. Maybe I'll just turn you down all you guys are so influential
He just said y'all
All right, let's let's hear from people. Let's see if that see if that sounds okay
You guys are also peeking a little bit. So I'm not sure if that's a microphone setting or whatever else, but hopefully we're all good
Apparently the stream died. So I don't know what's up with that. It doesn't look like it's dead on our side. So we're gonna
We're gonna continue sort of trucking along here for a second
Yeah, we dropped a few frames, but it looks like we are we are definitely back here so alright
What the heck is going on over there? Oh
You know just general this full of that
hashtag new a gate what yeah, so
So yeah, I guess um, if you guys aren't familiar with like new egg TV
That's what Kyle and I have been doing for for quite a few years now
Kind of regular presenters on on the new egg TV YouTube channel
Kyle does a little bit more behind the scenes and I do but uh
Kind of similar to what Linus used to do with with NCX right and we have just recently
Um both sort of independently and then we both kind of found out that we were both kind of on the same page
Made the decision that we were gonna
Go our separate ways and leave new egg. We still have a
Set up there. So we are still we're not gonna be gone completely
We're still gonna be participating a little bit over there Kyle. I was just over there today and he did the all tab live show
That is also on Twitch, right? That was good times. Yes
Yes, it's so you guys are going independent. Do you feel a little bit like a lot of know copycats?
Copycats, I was I was gonna say
Wasn't Logan didn't I was just gonna say you can see a lot of people say once they've been saying we're pulling like a Jerry
like
Cuz Jerry is the most recent person to leave his job and then to some degree
I I gotta I gotta go back to Logan. I feel like Logan kind of set the bar for for all of us on that one
Yeah, exactly. Well at the end of the day, we're all copying someone. It might as well be Logan, right? Exactly, but
it's just kind of interesting how this this huge transition for both Paul and I kind of start at the same time and
I think it was kind of for the best that happened at the same time as opposed to spreading it out
Like having one big announcement at the company and then a month later somebody else is leaving
So we kind of just talked about it. It was like hey, so Paul I'm planning this and he's like, really?
I'm kind of planning this really kind of funny. Why don't we do it together or whatever? So
That way and
You know, but but still still much love to Newegg. They've helped me a lot
That was literally my first job straight out of college. They're the only people who would take me
We had a few other
few choices
yes, they
So ominous looks off into the distance
Going going independent is I think a good decision for both of us. I know I'm really excited this last week
I've just been you know, waking up at 9 as opposed to 7 which is always awesome
And the ability straight up the ability because before I would work 40 hours a week at Newegg
I would come home around
536 p.m. Have dinner take a shower by the time I'm ready to actually start a video for my personal channel
It's like 9 o'clock and I'm up till 3 a.m. And gotta wake up at 730 the next morning
It's just it's a it's a mind world
so being able to
Wake up write a script and conceptualize a video and shoot and edit that video and post it all in the same day is
It is amazing. It's it's probably it's a great feeling to have which I'm sure you guys are in that sort of same workflow
For your channel. So speaking of you know, waking up and conceptualizing a video and then you know
Producing it and all that stuff. Have you guys actually?
Have you guys made much content since you've gone independent and how is this gonna affect the the type of content that you're creating?
that we're making. Kyle has. I have not yet. I so I was trying to get up to finish off a video last night
And I didn't so that's still I'm gonna post there'd be a new video of my channel this evening. I promise
95% of the way
How are you guys planning to support yourselves? I mean, I think that you don't have to explain to me that
that Google AdSense is not necessarily
the white knight and savior that people who watch
but don't necessarily create the content might believe it is.
What's your plan?
We're nowhere near, neither of us are anywhere near
being able to support ourselves on just the AdSense revenue.
I think, as you probably know,
part of the nature of the content that we do
since we cover technology, we cover products
that are brought to market and sold to people
and that companies make profit from.
So as a result of that, we have the possibility
to do things like pre-roll type ads,
those things that you've done.
I mean, obviously there's, you gotta kinda,
especially when it's for your own channel
versus working for a separate company,
you gotta kinda take a step back and think,
okay, if I'm gonna do something like this,
how am I gonna do it?
How am I gonna make it as non-intrusive
for anyone who's watching my channel as possible?
Also give companies a chance to promote their products
if they want to.
So I think I might be doing some basic, simple,
like five to 10 second pre-roll ads in the near future.
And then I might actually be doing some writing
for some websites that do content
of the technical nature, I guess.
So vague, we want more information.
I know, none of this stuff is set in stone yet.
So I don't wanna say like,
yes, I'm going to be doing this until I know for sure.
I was like one big striptease.
Yes, that's it, that's our seduction.
But you guys are also still gonna be doing
some stuff with Newegg, correct?
Yes.
So the plan right now is that we're each gonna go in
one day a week and help out with whatever
the regular content is.
And we might be doing some additional videos
here and there as well.
So the Yoked show, which is kinda tech news
and us messing around, which is kinda fun.
The alt tab live show are the main ones right now.
And then, obviously the team over there
is going through some transition right now at the same time.
So we need to sort of also wait and see and say,
okay, we've taken a step back from any kind
of leadership role that we might've played before.
So what do they wanna do next?
And how can we play a part in that?
So yeah, and that's the main thing I think
that we wanted to communicate to people.
While this is a pretty huge change for both of us
personally, and possibly, I guess also a decent change
for the Newegg channel as well.
This was not done out of animosity towards Newegg
or anything to that effect.
We still, I'm still gonna be ordering stuff there
all the time, cause I can drive right over to Will Call.
And yeah, so there's no like major problems
or anything like that.
It was just something both of us kinda came to realize.
I think Kyle had some other personal family reasons.
And then for me, I mean, if you work for somewhere
for an extended period of time, as great as it might be
at some point, you just need to decide, okay,
I need to stretch myself and reach out
and try to do something that's a little bit more different
or that allows me to, I don't know,
like Kyle was saying earlier, the creativity.
Fly, fly away, little bird.
I was stretching myself and putting my arm around you
and then you just abandoned me, gosh.
Is that so mean?
Is that the tape I used to cover,
that's a giant massive waste of electrical tape.
You gotta let that bad boy shine.
Actually, much more expensive gaff tape.
Oh God, that's a shame.
That's good stuff right there.
So I hate to do this to you guys,
but Skype's using up about 20% of our CPU right now
and our stream is lagging to crap
because we're at 100% CPU usage.
So I'm actually-
It's a very high quality webcam.
I'm gonna have to say thank you guys so much for coming on,
but it's kinda not, it's not working for us, unfortunately.
This relationship isn't gonna be able to continue.
For effort.
So we'll come on hopefully in a future episode
or something like that.
Yeah, we're gonna upgrade our CPU
and we'll have you guys on again
to just kind of be regular guests.
I think it's great that you came on for the announcement,
but I think I have to let you go.
So thank you guys.
Again, I'm very sorry.
Nothing personal, except that I hate you.
No worries.
Of course.
We love you guys.
Tell Calistran to direct people to his Amazon link
instead of yours.
No, actually.
Wow.
I'm not.
Watch my last video.
Go to my channel and watch it.
I specifically say,
if you don't already have Linus's bookmarks,
don't mind.
And now he's like desperately trying to plead for views.
He wants me to go watch his video.
Don't watch my video.
Please watch my video.
I need that one more incremental count.
All right, we'll see you guys later.
Bye.
See you later, guys.
Hopefully that fixes it.
Yeah, I certainly hope it does.
So let's go ahead and move that screen region.
See what happens to our CPU usage now.
This computer is not stoked.
Yeah, no, it's super happy.
Okay, so look at that.
We are way down and hopefully
we are actually encoding frames
instead of dropping them now.
Welcome back to the show, actually functioning.
Like I said, guys,
there wasn't really anything that I could do about it.
We had about,
Skype was claiming 20% CPU load.
It looks like it was actually closer to around 35%.
So we went from 60% CPU to no CPU left at all.
And we were pinned at 100%.
That was brutal.
So I'm really sorry about that, you guys.
We will bring Paul and Kyle back on sometime
in the near future, hopefully in the next few weeks here.
And we will dive into some topics together
and have that tech chat that I know you guys wanna hear.
And I'm really sorry about that,
but we gotta just move forward with the show.
We can't have it running like that forever.
Looks like we're not dropping frames anymore.
So I think we're good.
Yep, I think we're good.
I think that fixed it.
All right, so moving on to Bendgate.
This was originally posted on the Linus Tech Tips forum
by large reviews,
and there's actually a fairly excellent thread.
If you're not already a member of linustechtips.com,
then you should probably go there
because if we don't have enough members,
he'll lose his job again.
Oh my, wow.
Yep, yeah, that's right.
We don't have enough members?
I think we have enough members.
Okay.
I have the one most important member.
That's not on the forum, though.
No, that's true.
If it was, I think I'd probably have to remove it.
But I wouldn't delete that thread.
I would just hide it.
Yeah, excellent, excellent thread on the forum about it.
But basically, there's some videos
allegedly breaking phones in half
made by one of our good friends, Lou,
over at Unbox Therapy, where because of some-
He didn't break it in half.
Well, when something is,
okay, not at the halfway point, I guess.
Yes.
So the point is there were some reports
of people having iPhone 6 Pluses bending
from carrying them in their front pockets.
These kind of started to circulate on the internet.
And Lou from Unbox Therapy made a video
demonstrating how easily the phone
could be significantly bent
and then how the screen would crack
and it would basically become useless
once you bent it back to its original flat form.
This has been the most viral video, I think,
on any tech YouTuber's channel ever.
Probably.
Lou posted a screenshot from his YouTube Creators app
of it at 10 million views,
I think, the morning after he originally posted it.
This thing went super crazy viral.
But-
I think it's like 30 million now or something
just for that one video,
and he's released three on the topic,
which are all above a million views.
Way more, and he's been doing bend tests of other things.
Other people are jumping on the bend test wagon.
I think I saw NCIX post on their Facebook today,
a motherboard bent over.
I recognize the board, too.
It's an X58 board that was a sample
that we got ages ago when I used to work there.
Oh, man.
People are saying bend a 980, get more views.
I really don't think that would happen.
I think people would just call us idiots.
Yeah, and I-
And that would be really hard to do.
Yeah, we'd have to put it in a vice and stuff.
I'd just rather not bend the 980.
I'd rather people, someone at some point,
game on that 980 because that's,
I don't believe in breaking hardware on purpose.
I do think particularly the original
bend demonstration video was very important.
Justified.
Just to make people aware of the issue,
but along those lines, Apple is claiming now
that it isn't actually an issue.
So they're saying that out of all the hype
surrounding Bendgate, only nine users
have actually come forward to Apple
about having broken their or bent their phone
through regular use.
And they are saying that any of the phones
that were able to be bent so easily in this manner
just must be suffering from some kind of materials defect
and it's not a problem with the design of the phone.
There's a lot of other stuff kind of floating around,
so this is just kind of funny.
Apple threw up a job posting for a Q&A sort of position
that one of the things listed in the job description
was bending, testing.
Was it Ashley?
Yeah, but again, this is stuff that could have just
been a regular job posting anyway.
I don't think it necessarily has anything
to do with Bendgate.
I think really the proof will be in the pudding.
Are we gonna see more people coming forward
with bent phones?
One thing that I've seen Apple fanboys
kind of running around saying is,
oh, well, it's aluminum, so, you know,
yeah, it was gonna bend.
Anyway, you know what?
The one I made is aluminum and I can't,
I can't bend it.
I can turn it on.
Yeah, but like change the volume.
But I can't bend the phone.
Which it did perfectly fine while he was trying to bend it.
For that matter, the 5S has an aluminum back.
It's made by Apple, also doesn't bend, so.
I think that's pretty much it.
There's honestly not that much to say.
It's a massively over-exhausted topic.
Yep, I don't wanna even give it that much more attention.
One other thing Apple says that the new phones
feature steel and titanium inserts
to reinforce trust locations
and they use the strongest glass in the industry.
So, okay.
They didn't use Sapphire,
which we all thought they were gonna use.
Yeah, that was interesting.
That could have been interesting
because I wonder if that would have helped resist bending.
I kind of doubt it. Probably not.
I mean, Marcus's video
where he has the Sapphire crystal glass.
Oh, that's a good point.
He kind of, in his first video in particular,
I think he unfortunately hadn't seen
Corning Gorilla Glass 3 off of a phone before.
So he was kind of marveling at how clear it was
and how it flexed and all that.
But Gorilla Glass 3 behaves
in pretty much exactly the same manner.
So aside from the scratch resistance, I don't think.
Which wouldn't have actually helped rigidity in any way.
So yeah, nevermind.
Moot point.
So, okay, I hadn't heard anything about this.
What's going on with the cooler?
The EVGA ACX 970 cooler.
Ah, yes.
Originally posted on the forum by DevilZ.
Thank you, Sean.
PhysX.
EVGA, this is Sean's headline here.
EVGA could lose out on quite a bit of money
due to trying to cut costs on their GTX 970, 980 cards.
The original article is from e-technics
and it's that EVGA may have used a cooler
from a bigger card to save on manufacturing costs.
So there's a picture of a cooler taken off
an EVGA 900 series card here.
And I'm gonna go ahead,
I'm gonna load that page eventually if I can.
But in the meantime, why don't we just switch
to the no guest view so you guys don't have to wait for it.
But basically what happened was the bottom, sorry?
It started working.
Which did?
There.
Oh, no, no, no, it didn't.
What?
This page is still loading.
Oh, my bad.
I just switched back to a page that works.
Like linustechtips.com.
Oops, hey!
That's right, get wrecked.
So basically I'll just have to help you guys visualize this.
There's three heat pipes.
There we go.
Do you need help with your demonstration?
No.
Should I be the heat pipes?
Yeah, you can be the heat pipes.
Okay, so there's three heat pipes.
And then you can tell from the thermal paste pattern
that the GPU core itself is actually only contacting
two of them and one of them is not making contact
with the GPU core.
Now, this has led to some speculation
that EVGA's direct touch cooler will not work very well
and could perform significantly worse
than if all three heat pipes were making contact.
There is some truth to this.
Direct heat pipe touch technology does make a difference
and having them all touching the core would probably help.
But I think people are overestimating
how much of a difference that's going to make.
Remember, the problem with a copper base plate
on anything, let's say a heat sink,
or yeah, let's say a heat sink
because that would be fairly related.
So the problem with having a copper base on a heat sink,
the reason that we use heat pipes and vapor chambers
instead of just using a flat slab of copper
is that copper can't conduct heat away quickly enough
in order to provide the best possible cooling
once you build a heat sink that's large enough.
Over short distances, this is not an issue.
So with the die right next to it, right there,
and those heat pipes being the hottest part of that cooler
and that next heat pipe being right next
to those other heat pipes
that are the hottest part of the cooler,
it's going to be working.
It's going to be doing something.
Might not be as effective.
But we're talking, I'd be surprised
if the difference is more than a degree or two.
And in the grand scheme of things,
that's not gonna be a huge deal.
With that said.
These cars are already running pretty cool.
They are already running pretty cool.
That said, is two degrees the difference
between one boost state versus another boost state
on cards that overclock themselves?
Maybe.
But I'd also suspect that having another person
sitting in the room watching you game
would make as much of a difference
because of just the heat from their body.
And we're already getting low temps of around 70 on average
as far as I've been able to tell with our cards.
Yeah, with non-reference cards.
Yeah.
So there you go.
That's pretty much, I guess,
all I really had to say about that.
I don't think it's as big of a deal as other people are.
EVGA did respond.
They said that though,
and I hadn't actually seen their response yet.
This has been added to the doc
since last time I looked at it.
The way the GTX 970 ACX heat sink was designed
is based on the GTX 970 wattage
plus an additional 40% cooling headroom on top of it.
So they're saying about a total of 200 watts.
Also, we would like to mention that the cooler passed.
NVIDIA's green light specifications
due to the small contact area of that GPU,
because it has a small die size,
we intended for the GPU to contact two major heat pipes
with direct touch to get the best heat dissipation out of it
without any other material in between them.
Blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Regarding fan noise, this is not a fan noise issue,
is more, oh, okay.
Regarding fan noise,
we understood that some had expressed concerns
over the fan noise of each EVGA's GTX 970 cards.
This is not a fan noise issue,
but more of an aggressive fan curve
set by the default BIOS.
Regardless, we have heard your concerns,
we are gonna provide a BIOS update
that keeps the cards quieter and ramps up less aggressively.
With that said, you can control GPU fan speeds and software,
so if you don't wanna wait for the BIOS update,
then I would say.
Fairly simple to do.
Go for it.
Especially with their, I can't remember right now.
Have you forgotten you're dead to me?
What's the name of their software again?
UG Precision?
Precision.
The next has a pretty good fan curve stuff in it.
So if you wanna change it, use their own software.
Not too hard.
The Verge wrote a pretty hilarious, I guess,
I made it about two-thirds of the way through
and then I got kinda bored,
but it was pretty funny while I was reading it.
So it can't be that hilarious.
No, it was pretty funny.
They wrote a pretty hilarious piece
on the fact that the next,
well, okay, apparently,
the fact that the next Nexus tablet will be made by HTC.
And The Verge's article was full of, you know,
Lovers Quarrels and all this kinda stuff.
The main characters are, of course, Google, HTC,
Tamtongue, LG.
So is it like a triangle?
No.
Yeah, just the industry, the Android ecosystem,
all the different players.
It was pretty funny.
But basically, that's it.
This was posted by ethnaud on the forum
and the original source here is rooters.com.
And apparently, Google has selected HTC
for an upcoming nine-inch Nexus tablet.
So it looks like they're splitting.
They're using HTC for the tablet
and I believe they're using Moto,
Motorola still for their phone.
Is that confirmed or are we speculating
based on that it looks like the Moto X?
I think it's speculating based on the look.
But it has the circular flash and it has all this stuff
which is very similar to the Moto X.
Yes, it does look very similar.
Again, it's still speculation,
but it's, I don't know.
It'll be interesting using two different manufacturers.
So Google has been mulling HTC as a potential partner
for us since last year.
HTC hasn't made a tablet since 2011.
So this was announced at Google IO in June.
It's expected Q3 2014 and it will apparently be powered
by the Tegra K1, which is extremely good news
because something that I noticed,
I don't know if other people noticed,
but AnandTech had a great article on the iPhone 6
and iPhone 6 Plus' performance.
And of all the Android devices
that were in the performance charts,
the one that really hung with the iPhone 6 and the 6 Plus
was the Nvidia Shield tablet,
which is based on the Tegra K1 with,
and that's in terms of CPU.
In terms of GPU, the K1 blew away everything.
Just absolutely demolished everything else.
Nvidia.
So I'm excited about that.
The problem with the K1, the big,
like I wonder if Nvidia had hoped
that K1 would be suitable for phone use,
but the problem with the K1 is that the thermals
are just not really suitable for that
and they're more optimal for tablet use at this time.
So at least we can have fast Android tablets
as fast as the fastest Apple devices,
just not smartphones yet.
I'm also not surprised that the K1
is heavily focused on GPU.
I am.
Why?
Nvidia?
Yeah.
I mean, they're all about...
Stop trolling.
You were so genuine with that, I am.
I was like, did I miss something?
What did I do?
Holy crap, I said something stupid.
Nope, no, you didn't say anything stupid.
You just wore something stupid.
Hey.
So that's why you're dead to me.
No.
Dead to me.
Speaking of dead to me,
Watch Dogs is turning into a franchise.
They are not dead at all.
Oh, that's a terrible segue.
I know.
I could have said a lot of different things about,
I could have tied dead to me into Watch Dogs
and Ubisoft in a lot of different ways.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's say...
You took the hard way.
Rather than saying that, you know,
I missed an opportunity,
why don't we say I had restraint?
There we go.
You know what, I'm down with that.
Oh, all right.
Because usually we do the digging thing.
At any rate, this was originally posted by
DLF on the forum.
I couldn't tell if it was DIFF.
DIFF or DLF and the original articles
from computer and video games and Ubisoft Montreal's,
we're just staring at the doc right now.
Vice President of Creative.
Of Creative.
That's a thing.
Is it?
Maybe not.
Anyway, has said that although the game has its flaws,
he feels it succeeds in establishing a brand
and promise for the future.
That's an awkward way to do that.
It's flawed, but...
I'll let you talk now.
I'm taking off the dead to me thing.
Aw, yay.
So it's flawed, but you know, we believe in it.
It'll be okay.
Well...
Hopefully we won't completely screw it up next time
and then you guys will hopefully like it.
Or we'll just say this and you'll buy it
and then we'll just keep moving on anyways
because we're Ubisoft.
They did make a good point.
They brought up that Assassin's Creed 1
had a lot of complaints about it
and was hardly a perfect game.
That's because they gave it like no budget
and cut it off early so they didn't have time
to develop missions for the rest of the game.
So they just reused missions from previous parts of the game.
But the point was that Assassin's Creed 2 sold just fine.
In spite of the complaints about Assassin's Creed 1.
Sold.
It was a great game.
I loved Assassin's Creed 2, it was really good.
But, yeah.
And there was very valid complaints about Assassin's Creed 1
which I also liked because you did like
the first three missions and you just basically
repeated that for the entire rest of the game.
So I don't know, if they do the same thing
that would be fantastic because that means
the next Watch Dogs would be really good
because Assassin's Creed 2 was great.
But I don't know because it did look like
Watch Dogs got a much larger budget
than Assassin's Creed 1.
Oh yeah it did.
And that was the main problem with Assassin's Creed 1.
It was the fact that they ran out of budget.
But I mean, the way that the statement was phrased
I think is pretty good.
Where basically he says, okay, there are flaws.
There are many flaws, which is good.
We wanna tackle those flaws and surprise players.
We need to be careful not to change the things people liked
and address the things that they didn't like.
And hopefully, particularly from a PC gamer's perspective,
that's gonna happen right starting at the beginning
of the development process when the PC gets treated
like a priority as opposed to not even an afterthought.
You can't even call it an afterthought.
That's what's terrible about it.
It was with forethought and malice, allegedly,
that they nerfed it.
So hopefully we won't see that happen again
and Watch Dogs 2 will be...
The only thing that scares me about this
is that we've had Ubisoft tote, rah rah,
we're gonna make it better in front of us before
and then just completely ignore it
when the time for action came to be.
So this is great.
I hope it happens, but I wouldn't throw any bets.
Things can change though.
I mean, I think I brought this up on WAN Show before,
so I won't talk about it for too long,
but talking to the DirectX lead at Microsoft
when he showed up at the Nvidia event,
he was like, yeah, we have a different culture now.
You know, like I'm encouraged to be out here
talking to journalists and engaging with the community
about the direction of Direct3D when before it was...
Very close-knit.
Much more cloistered.
Yeah.
And so I don't know.
I basically, because I kind of grilled him a little bit.
Some things that I knew he wouldn't know,
but I just wanted to kind of,
someone who might have some influence there,
let's just beat him up while he's down.
And I kind of went, man,
why didn't Halo 1 get multiplayer co-op?
And he was like, I legitimately don't know that.
And I'm like, man, why do they keep recommitting to us
and then doing this and doing that?
Master Chief Edition not coming to PC.
What the hell is that?
So I basically just went, man, does Microsoft even care?
And all he could really say was Microsoft is changing.
And he spoke very earnestly about it.
He seems like a great guy.
Mr. Nadella has been making a crazy amount of changes.
He's not a PR guy.
He's a technical guy.
He's a programmer.
Always cool.
So I don't expect him to give me a PR response,
but he seemed genuinely convinced
that Microsoft is on a great track and cares about gamers.
And the other thing he said is that his team
has always cared and has always cared about PC gaming.
From watching the very few amount of DX announcements
and demos that you're able to watch
where those guys are up on stage allowed to talk,
they do seem like they care a lot.
Yeah, and he was telling me, there's guys on his team.
But there's very few amount of those.
You know, $4,000, $5,000 gaming rigs at home.
These are PC gaming enthusiasts, at least some of them.
And he kind of went, you know, yeah, we're optimistic.
We believe in the future.
So who knows?
Maybe Ubisoft, who hasn't gotten a new CEO.
Or really changed it all.
Hopefully they do those things.
So speaking of changes, Corsair changed the branding
on their gaming peripherals.
And we might have all collectively freaked out
a little bit too much.
Probably, but let's just go through the saga here.
So here's this video they made with some soldiers.
This is, I think, just the outro for it.
Have you watched the video?
No, actually.
It's pretty over the top.
The production values are pretty good.
Like, I have no idea how much that cost.
Just looking at that animation, yeah.
So they released a new brand for their gaming products.
Oh, I'm not logged in, so that's not working.
Winner.
Everything is broken.
Everything is broken.
Something, something, something, something, something.
Everything is broken.
All right, so they redid their Vengeance branding.
The old sort of yellow Vengeance logo
that we would find on older Corsair gaming products.
I used to have a keyboard in here,
but I took it out of here for B-roll or something,
so I don't have it at the moment.
And then they redid it.
So instead of having the Corsair sales
and then Vengeance as kind of a separate sub-brand,
they created this kind of two-cross blade thing
that ends up looking kind of like a tribal tattoo
that would belong on the small of your back,
or like a Klingon bat-lith
with a little heart in the middle of it.
Like, there aren't really many great ways to look at it.
I saw a crazy crab holding swords
with a heart on his head.
Yeah, yeah, that's another way.
Bad people suggest that it's kind of like a crab-a-rang.
Yeah.
So it's a bat-a-rang, but.
But it's a crab.
That's funny.
There should be crab-man.
That would actually make a great.
He has one extremely strong arm
and one really not strong arm.
That would make a tremendous cartoon network show.
It's like crab-man,
and he's just always like an ass to everyone.
I'll save you, but I won't like it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so they took away the sales.
They took away Corsair, Vengeance, sub-brand,
and now it's all unified under Corsair Gaming.
They made a big hubbub about this,
which I actually wonder if ended up working against them.
They had press releases, PR statements.
They redid all their packaging.
They took new products, like the RGB series keyboards,
and packaged them with this new Corsair Gaming brand.
They took existing products,
like their 1500 headset and 1300 headset.
We actually have a bunch of them in the hallway,
and they repackaged them under the new branding,
redid the industrial design on the products.
This was not a cheap initiative for Corsair
to undergo this rebranding process,
and then the community freaked out.
There was a change.org petition,
which I really feel like was a little over the top.
I mean, change.org should maybe-
I think most change.org petitions
are a little bit over the top.
Okay, fair enough.
PC Master Race, the subreddit was explosive.
The threads on Linus Tech Tips
are many, many, many posts long discussing this,
and I think that basically all there really is to say
about it is I don't really like the logo either.
Me neither.
I released a video about it last night.
I don't think it's great,
but something that I actually didn't realize
until I was talking to someone at Corsair
about the video we made last night,
where it's kind of a troll video.
We show how to mod your keyboard and take the logo off
and put something else on.
I was talking to someone from Corsair,
and I kinda went, yeah, realistically,
I think everyone's gonna forget
because it takes this conversation we're having now
for me to remember how much I hated the Vengeance logo
when I first saw it, and I still hate it.
I think it's horrible.
I think that font, I think the bright yellow was never good,
and that's something people are forgetting as well.
They're upset about the yellow in the gaming logo.
Vengeance was already yellow branding.
That said, they didn't put Vengeance on the product.
It was mostly on the box, which helps a lot,
but I'm just saying I think that people will kind of forget
about it eventually, and who knows?
Maybe, I mean, Vengeance was only with us a few years.
Who knows?
Maybe they'll rebrand it again at some point,
but I think that this was very much an overreaction.
I think Corsair responded to it in the best way
that they possibly could.
With Yellowbeard's post?
Yellowbeard's post.
So, K70 RGB keyboards with red switches,
Cherry MX Red switches that already had the original logo
will continue to exist for some time,
so people who really want the original logo
on their keyboard can get it,
and then the other ones will have the Corsair gaming logo,
so if you want blue or brown switches,
a K65 or a K95, the 10 keyless,
and the one with macro keys,
then you'll have to have the new logo.
And honestly, if you do really hate it,
the guide line that's posted is actually not even that bad.
Just get a flathead screwdriver and take it off.
Like, you can get rid of that glue residue pretty easily.
And you can put a cool deco there or something.
Yeah, put a cool deco, fill it up with Plasti Dip,
do something, it's not that hard to fix.
Yeah, so, I'm actually, I'm amazed.
They got over 7,000 signatures
on the Keep Field logo petition.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
So, we wanna do, like, interesting topic, or like?
Yeah, let's go with interesting topic.
Okay, cool.
All right, so, we just got 14 nanometer.
So, Intel is just now releasing products.
What is it, Core M, or whatever it is?
Yeah, the mobile one?
Yeah, Bravo Y.
Yeah, so these, like, super, super low power.
We're talking Core i5 dual core class processors
with beefy dedicated graphics in, like, fanless tablets.
Like, pretty cool stuff.
We just got those, and now in the news,
Intel's planning to spend another six billion,
this time on a 10 nanometer fab.
Every single time they go down
in manufacturing process, everyone's like,
oh, this is it, they can't go any further.
There's no way technology can advance.
We've hit the end, boys.
This is as far as we can go,
and then a couple months later, yeah, yeah.
Couple months later, new manufacturing plant.
Billions of dollars have been spent,
and they're gonna make smaller ones.
It's like, okay, cool.
So, this was posted by Jerky on the forum.
You know, it's funny.
Along the lines of what you were just saying,
I remember my SSD Folsom campus tour
when I got to visit Intel that one time,
and I remember walking into a room
where they basically said, don't take any pictures
or film anything in here, and I kind of went, why?
And it turned out that the whiteboard
and like, the drawings on it were,
and I think it's late enough now, yeah,
3D NAND is here, 3D transistors are here,
but that was like the plan for 3D.
You know, and I was like, really?
That's cool.
It's like internal, like drawings on a whiteboard.
I was like, that is so cool.
I'm geeking out right now.
I don't understand any of it.
But it's still awesome.
But it's still friggin' cool.
And I remember asking them questions in my interviews.
You know, we keep hearing about the end of Moore's law.
We keep hearing about how flash isn't gonna continue
to get higher density or whatever else.
And I think if you look at sort of a short-term past,
sort of, if you take a short-term past chunk,
it might look that way.
I mean, the iPhone 6.
If you look at devices, if you look at-
Still comes in 16 gig.
If you look at solid state storage on its own though,
it is getting massively larger.
It is.
But looking at phones and devices and stuff like that, no.
But to go back to the kind of growth we were seeing before,
I think we're gonna have to wait a little bit
because that's about to happen again.
You look at what they're capable of doing with DDR4,
for example, with some of the new die stacking technologies.
You look at what Samsung is doing with their new 3D NAND,
where they're taking, instead of having, you know,
20 nanometer class NAND that's spread out horizontally,
they're stacking 40 nanometer class NAND
to get the same capacities and better reliability
and better speeds with about the same raw material.
So they take that technology, they shrink that down.
Whoa, capacities are not done yet.
Every time that we feel like we hit some sort of wall,
someone goes, oh hey, if we climb it
in this really weird way, we can keep going.
That happens like every single time.
It'll make no sense,
then someone will come up with an alternative,
it will make tons of sense, and we will keep on going.
And it's Intel almost every time.
It's funny, because I got called out on our fastest possible
about process technologies, manufacturing processes,
for like favoring Intel or like fanboying over Intel
because I brought up, basically I alluded to their TikTok,
their TikTok development process,
and I also, I don't know what's going on with my computer,
and I also brought up the Core M
as my example of 14 nanometer processor,
but I went back and looked into it.
Intel has been first to every process node
over like the last 20 years.
And they hit a new one like every two years.
That's not a, yeah, that's not a real point of debate.
Yeah, it's just a thing.
You can debate different like processors
that different price skews and all that kind of stuff.
Different architectures.
Optimized for gaming, optimized for tablets.
Yeah, you can definitely debate all that kind of stuff.
Manufacturing, little stuff.
They developed this thing at this date,
and then that's what happened.
There's, I don't know, there's facts.
Posted by RedRound2 on the forum,
the original article from Inantec.
We actually alluded to this just a moment ago.
But the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are benchmark monsters.
So there you go.
There's the iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus,
the 5S, Shield tablet, Windows Phone.
Are we gonna find an Android device
that doesn't have a Tegra K1 in it?
Here we go.
Oh, boy.
So they are, they are wrecking machines.
And they don't do that well in every single benchmark.
But they are at or near the top of the charts
pretty much across the board.
Yay, the newest phone does the best things.
Yeah, I was gonna say, as exciting as this might be,
and as great as it is that we're getting
faster and faster mobile devices,
I think that the people who are disappointed
in the iPhone 6 are the same people
who were disappointed in the Galaxy 5S,
but just that happened to carry something
with an Apple logo in their pocket
versus something with a Samsung logo in their pocket.
I think we're all getting disenchanted
with smartphones all at the same time.
I am, like hardcore, that's a thing.
I think, we've talked about how phones
are going through the same thing PCs did,
but they're going through the same thing PCs did
over an extremely long period of time,
and they're surpassing where PCs are at,
but then not getting that thing
where PCs kind of dwindled for a little while
and now we're awesome again.
I don't think they're really getting that,
and I don't know if they are going to.
No, the future for phones is definitely gonna be
in interface design and not in hardware,
at least over the next little while.
Software usability, HCI,
which is called human computer interaction,
so just like how you use your phone,
like a natural paper thing that Android's trying to do,
all that kind of stuff is gonna be a really big deal.
Yeah, and wearable devices.
I'm really disappointed in the Moto 360
now that the reviews are out.
I actually walked into a Best Buy
the morning of the launch
kind of not really thinking about it.
I'd been napping in the car
that was driving me from the airport to the NVIDIA event,
and I walked in and I was like,
holy crap, it's a Moto 360.
Interesting.
Do you have any?
And the guy at the till said yes,
so I just about bought one right there
just so I could review it if nothing else,
and now I'm kind of glad I didn't
because the thing that I was expecting it
to disappoint me with
is exactly what it's disappointing everybody with,
battery life.
Yeah, but it didn't need to.
It just did.
What was the size of the processor, 40 nanometer?
Yeah, it was some 20 nanometer,
like ancient chip.
What are you doing?
I mean, the issue though,
and there could be a hundred reasons
why they would have gone with that processor.
There's also a hundred reasons not to.
There's a hundred reasons not to,
but there's a hundred reasons
why they might have had to,
but the cold hard truth is
until we get dramatically better batteries,
the only smartwatches that will matter to me
will be the ones with E Ink or Mirasol displays.
I don't wanna charge my smartwatch every single day.
Yep, I charge this every four days or so.
That's probably fine.
I would like seven.
I would like it to be a week.
Some people get a week out of the pebble.
I don't because I'm a heavy user,
but the main thing for me
is when you're at that awkward dinner
and you just wanna know how much longer
you have to sit there
across from that weird family member
who you only have to see once a quarter or so,
and you wanna glance at your wrist
and just freaking know what time it is,
that's important to me.
It's not a timepiece unless it does time well first.
That's true.
That's very true.
Luke pointed out to me a smartwatch that's coming
that has a transparent display over an analog watch face.
And this is something,
if you go back a whole bunch of WAN shows,
like quite a few,
that was like they need to make an OLED panel
that goes on top of a normal freaking watch
and can just turn on and give you notifications
every once in a while so it can completely go off
and you can just see the normal watch face.
I wonder it,
because that's what a lot of people are gonna want,
because that is gonna look super, super classy.
And a lot of people want their high-end looking,
very nice mechanical watches.
And apparently it has happened.
Speaking of wanting watches to look super, super classy,
kind of funny story.
There are a lot of people who seem upset
that Apple's iWatch or whatever they end up calling it,
Apple Watch, I guess,
so that Apple's watch is going to be expensive.
It's like, yeah.
How did you not see that coming?
How did you not see that coming?
Watches that literally have no justification
for being expensive are expensive.
Watches are a fashion statement,
fashion statements are expensive.
Yep, watches and Apple turned the phone
into a fashion statement in a big way.
I mean, they weren't the pioneer of it.
I mean, Motorola did a great job with the Razr,
but Apple turned the smartphone
into the ultimate phone fashion statement.
But watches, they don't even have to do any work.
People will already spend,
normal people who work normal jobs
will spend $1,000, $2,000, $3,000 on a watch.
That happens.
I know that technophiles who expect everything
that they own to be broken down
in terms of the bomb cost,
like the cost of the raw materials that went into it.
I know that we don't necessarily accept that.
And if you look at me,
it's not like I'm someone who wears a $1,000 watch.
I expect things to be practical.
I expect them to have an actual value
and an actual cost associated with making them.
But a lot of the world doesn't work that way.
And Apple would be foolish not to leverage that.
And that's why I've been saying
we need those mechanical OLED panel watches
because those are gonna be crazy expensive.
And that's what a lot of people are gonna wanna buy.
I don't want one, way too expensive.
But that's what a lot of people are gonna want.
I'd like to do a review of one,
even if we can just get a loaner one for a little while.
Yeah.
Speaking of a review,
I had a few people questioning my Instagram post
earlier today where I showed off my new $300 USB 3 cable.
I bought that thing.
What?
Well, I guess it'll be a review.
It'll be a review.
But there's a justification for it.
It's the coolest USB 3 cable that has ever existed.
The highest tech USB 3 cable that has ever existed.
And it is a fiber optic USB 3 cable.
Oh yeah, that one.
In fact, it doesn't even adhere to the USB 3.0 standard.
There is no standard for a fiber optic USB 3 cable.
So the packaging's hilarious.
It says USB 3.0 optical.
So it's a 30 meter.
So it's literally 3.0.
Get it, get it, get it.
So this is a 100 foot USB 3 cable.
And I actually have a plan for something really cool
that I'm gonna do with it that I'll show off to you guys.
And that I think will make some sense,
at least to people who appreciate minimalistic design.
So stay tuned for that.
There is a reason for it.
I haven't just completely lost my noggin.
All right, AMD India.
Do you wanna go through this one
while I figure out what's going on
with my internet connection here?
Sure.
So that big announcement that everyone was talking about,
that was gonna happen on September 25th.
From AMD.
That was like super exciting from AMD.
And like, oh my God, it's probably gonna be a 390 or 390X.
Nope, nope, nope.
They're bringing some graphics cards to India.
So I don't actually know what ones.
It looks like mainly workstation cards.
So they're bringing a AMD Fire Pro W8100,
an AMD Fire Pro W9100,
and GCN powered Radeon R9 285.
So they're bringing a 285 and then two workstation cards.
So yeah, that was that super exciting announcement
that was gonna happen on September 25th.
The 9100 does have 16 gigs of RAM.
That's pretty frigging cool.
Speaking of RAM capacities continuing to grow.
Yeah, but it's weird when they're blasting
a big announcement to North Americans and Europeans about,
like if they blasted this in India,
that makes tons of sense.
Because that is a big announcement in India.
I think it was, it seems a little unintentional.
To me it looks a little bit like a miscommunication at AMD.
So like someone posted a big announcement
maybe even in India and then it got pushed everywhere?
Yeah, the press got ahold of the Indian announcement.
I think some individuals at AMD didn't really know
what to do or what to say about it.
It felt like they had to say something.
And ended up.
They could have specifically said
it's a big announcement for India.
Because it's pretty cool for India.
Right.
But it's a very tied down announcement, which makes sense.
But it's still a very tied down announcement.
So they could have clarified.
Right.
I don't think that would have been a problem.
Everyone started freaking out and then they could have been
like, oh. But you don't want
to downplay it either and like make it seem like,
yeah, our announcement's lame, so.
But it's not lame.
No, it isn't.
It's location tied.
I mean, okay, okay.
What they say about the 16 gig GPU is that it allows users,
and I mean, this is pretty cool,
to multitask efficiently across six 4K displays.
That's pretty sick.
Is that not cool?
That is pretty sick.
Six DisplayPort 1.2.
I mean, the number of megapixels,
the sheer data rates involved with this, it's very cool.
Yeah.
It's just gamers and sort of the internet in general
aren't really gonna care about it.
Yeah, so I think they should have checked their,
checked their announcement a little bit.
It was a little bit overthrown.
All right, DisplayPort will work through USB Type-C.
That is incredibly good news.
That's pretty freaking cool.
I'm actually pretty excited about that.
USB Type-C is looking like it's gonna be badass.
I'm just really hoping that connector's solid.
I know.
It's the only thing I'm worried about.
I was talking to Ryan Smith from Anantech.
We were in the shuttle on the way back
to the airport together and we were talking
about USB Type-C, because they had an article about it.
They were hands-on with it.
And I was like, did you see it?
Did you touch it?
And he's like, no, no, but I want to.
What?
Oh, so he specifically was, okay, I got it.
Yeah, yeah, no, someone else
and one of their other writers.
So we were just kind of speculating
and talking about it a little bit.
We both agree that the Lightning connector
is probably about as elegant as it gets
for a double-sided connector in terms of durability.
But we both maintain hope that USB3 Type-C
will be frickin' awesome, hopefully.
So just as a recap for you guys,
if you haven't already watched our Fast as Possible
on USB Type-C, which is now outdated
because it includes DisplayPort connectivity,
it is validated at up to SuperSpeed USB 3.1.
So that's 10 gigabit per second,
bringing it back within sort of one leap of Thunderbolt.
It can deliver up to 100 watts of power over a single cable.
So we're talking being able to charge your laptop over USB.
You can charge your laptop,
run a display off your laptop at the same time
because it can go either direction.
Pretty awesome.
Yep, bi-directional.
It has alternate modes that support
the use of existing HDMI, DVI, and VGA adapters
now that DisplayPort can be transmitted over it.
The DisplayPort over USB-C carries up
to 8.1 gigabit per second per lane.
Huh, this looks so awesome.
So when using all four lanes of the DisplayPort alt mode,
you could drive a monitor at up to 5K resolution.
Or up to, and up to 4K, excuse me.
So with existing DisplayPort one, blah, blah, blah,
et cetera, support up to 4K desktop resolutions
with 60 frame rates at up to 30 bit color.
So 4K USB 3.0 Type-C is a thing.
Freaking awesome.
That's pretty sweet.
Pretty stoked.
We are almost out of time.
And we need to do the giveaway,
and we need to do sponsor spots,
and we need to do build blogs,
and we probably need to do some other articles.
Okay, well let's do our sponsors first.
Huge thanks to Squarespace for sponsoring the WAN Show.
Yeah, they're taking a little while
because they're looking for network resources,
and then grabbing the local one.
That's why the scene switching is taking a while.
That makes way more sense.
But if you had a Squarespace website,
it wouldn't need to take a long time to load
because Squarespace ensures
that your website will be functional.
It will be beautiful.
It will be affordable, and it will be scalable.
We use Squarespace for linusmediagroup.com,
and I don't think we've ever maintained it ever.
No, that's actually kind of a problem.
Yeah, we need to go back and update some of the stuff.
It still looks beautiful,
and it's still entirely functional,
but it doesn't have all of our employees.
There's no headshots.
It doesn't include all of our shows, I don't think.
There's a lot of missing information.
Because I never even think about it.
It just works.
All the screenshots from our most bestest videos ever
are the ones we made in the first couple months
of being a company.
I know, so guys, that's what Squarespace does.
It means that you can focus on maintaining your business
in other ways that don't involve
micromanaging your freaking website,
whether it's a blog,
whether you have an online business
where you sell some craft that you make, or a service,
whether it's a portfolio, promoting.
If you're a wedding photographer or whatever else,
Squarespace sites work on desktop, they work on mobile,
and they make sure that you put your best foot forward.
They've also got other great tools,
like their 24-7 tech support, as well as their logo creator.
So instead of hiring a graphic design firm
just to try to get started,
you can at least create something that looks good
that you can use temporarily and get on your site
and get up and running without hassle.
Also, if you visit squarespace.com slash Linus
and use offer code Linus, you can save 10%.
And of course, everyone who uses Squarespace
gets a free trial, a free two-week trial.
I actually don't remember what Nick said
about whether we are giving away a Squarespace.
I don't have internet.
Okay. Nick!
No, it's okay.
Well, if we don't, then we'll do two
next time we have a Squarespace sponsorship.
But every month, we give a Squarespace site away
to someone who has signed up for a trial.
So they win their site for a year.
So that's Squarespace's little way of being cool dudes.
This is pretty awesome, actually.
Thanks to Squarespace.
They've actually been, I think,
our second-longest sponsor after Audible.
Yeah.
They've been great supporters of-
If you don't include how long we left Razer
at the bottom of the stream for.
Yeah.
No, no, I don't mean long in terms of time period.
I mean, going back the furthest.
Oh, yeah.
They were one of our first non-tech sponsors.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, lynda.com, a relatively new sponsor,
but actually a fantastic one as well.
You can get a free trial by going
to lynda.com slash wanshow right now.
And you've used lynda.com, so-
Yes, I've used lynda.com for quite a while
to learn just random stuff.
More specifically, targeted things.
If I'm like, I need to know this thing about programming
so I can do something with it.
I usually go to lynda.com for that.
My mom has used it for various things.
Taren, one of our editors, has used it to learn how to edit,
which is probably a good thing if he has to edit.
I wonder if he's using it right now while he's not working.
I don't know, I would think so.
I mean, his wrist is hurt.
That doesn't mean your eyes are broken.
So you can still learn things on lynda.
Because not everything on lynda.com
is just programming stuff.
They have tips for digital photography.
And they're all taught by experts,
so there's tons of different things
that you can learn on lynda.com.
Plans start at 25 bucks a month.
I don't think there's that much more to say about it.
Other than that, there's no real commitment, guys.
You can try it for seven days for free.
If you like it, if you feel like
you're learning something useful, then keep on going.
And if you don't like it, then you don't have to.
But we've seen, here at Linus Media Group alone,
for at least two people, lynda.com has provided
some foundation for some skills
that have turned into real employment opportunities,
which is, I think, one of the strongest things
that we can say about any sponsor that we have.
One thing that I always say about it
is if you're planning on going to post-secondary
for programming, start working on lynda.com right now
and teach yourself before you go,
because your grades will be much higher,
you'll find it a lot easier.
I find a lot of people, the first semester
they go to university for, is kind of a mess,
because they're getting used to no longer
possibly being at home, how school works
in different ways now, and possibly certain electives
that are pretty difficult or weird
that you haven't done before.
So if you can make your core courses easier,
which will be your programming courses
if you're getting into programming, that's invaluable.
All right, so thanks lynda.com and Squarespace
for sponsoring the WAN Show.
We appreciate your sponsorship,
I think our viewers appreciate your service,
and let's move on to our next topic then, shall we?
Blizzard cancels its next-gen MMO, Titan,
after seven years of development.
Can you imagine having enough money as a company
that you can work on something for seven years
and then just go, eh, it's not turning out
the way we liked it?
Well, Valve trashed TF2.
TF2 was like almost done, and then they're like, eh, no,
and toss the whole thing away,
and then now they have what we have now,
which everyone kind of seems to love,
so they probably did the right thing.
And hopefully that's the same story with Blizzard.
Hopefully they just decided maybe this isn't
the right direction after all, and kind of pitched it.
Or maybe they're just refocusing on, wow,
that wouldn't even be too surprising.
World of Warcraft is getting a massive graphical update
with Warlords of Draenor,
and a whole bunch of other stuff is happening,
so it could be just a refocus.
Should I try it again?
I haven't played since vanilla.
You could, we're probably gonna have to,
actually, yeah, seeing as how you did that, maybe not.
We're probably gonna have to benchmark it when it comes out.
Right, yeah, we should for sure.
Because it'll be the biggest change in performance
that that game has ever had since release.
That big, because they've done
some significant updates before.
But I don't think they've had one nearly this big.
Interesting.
It's a pretty big graphical update.
They have definitely had graphical updates,
and one thing that they've done
is they've just included more stuff,
so there's more things to load in general,
especially with the new zones they came in with.
Especially if you have longer draw distances.
Long draw distances.
So they've done a lot with it,
but I think this is the most in terms
of actual texture files.
Because the characters are being upgraded a lot.
Someone could correct me on that.
I could be wrong,
but I believe it is the biggest one they've had so far.
So they're talking about it,
actually, pretty openly for Blizzard, which is surprising.
But they went back to the drawing board last year,
and now they're basically just saying,
well, we made WoW,
and we figured we knew how to make an MMO,
but here we are.
We're looking at this,
and we're not finding the fun.
And if it's not fun,
then what's the bloody point?
Basically, it's not the first time
they've canceled a significant project
that had a lot of hype around it.
Yeah, StarCraft Ghost was supposed to be an FPS about ghosts.
I was pretty stoked for that, actually.
Oh, different ghost.
That was one of the most games
that I was most hyped about ever.
I mean, they just ripped it from reality.
That was unfortunate.
I mean, they had all that artwork of Kerrigan,
and it was gonna be cool.
Nova.
So much for that.
All right, so we'll do a few rapid-fire topics
before we get into.
We have build logs and the giveaway today.
Yeah, I know.
The 12-inch MacBook Air is rumored
to maybe have a USB Type-C port.
That would be very cool.
Very unexpected.
I would expect Apple to continue
to support Thunderbolt exclusively.
Mind you, with how many of the rumors about the iPhone 6
were just completely out in La La Land,
I'd be surprised if this one's true.
Sleeping Dogs sequel Triad Wars
is going to be PC exclusive.
Hopefully not as many bugs as there was in the console port.
LED SLI bridges have now been released.
So the ones used in the Mod24 rigs,
that modding competition that we checked out,
and that have been seen before
in like Nvidia Showcase builds for quite some time.
The, here, we've got a shot of them here.
So those sexy metal SLI bridges
that match the cards really well.
And they're also releasing two different spacings
for a dual card.
Yes, I saw that.
So they're releasing like side-by-sides,
especially if you have something like an MATX board,
you might wanna have that.
And they're releasing the empty space between the cards.
I love it.
They're only 30 bucks for a two-way
and 40 bucks for a three-way model,
which isn't that cheap.
But when you consider how much
you've just already spent on your graphics cards,
I don't think it's that much of an adder.
Yeah.
Yeah, fantastic.
Yep.
Nintendo's quasi-quicentennial,
what the heck?
Oh, okay, whatever.
So they turned 125 on Tuesday.
For most of Nintendo's life,
they produced cards, toys, and other random stuff
and didn't transition to video games
until actually the 1970s.
So pretty cool.
Way to go, Nintendo.
Happy birthday.
And they've been doing a lot of great stuff lately, actually.
They've totally turned around in the last little while.
Even looking at stuff like their DLC for Mario Kart
that they're coming out with.
Yep.
Absolutely fantastic.
They're gonna double the amount of tracks that there is.
Or no, they're 150% the current amount.
So they're adding 50% of the amount of tracks.
Nice.
Whole bunch more racers, whole bunch of new cars,
and they're continuing down that line with DLC
and they're coming out with Smash and all this good stuff.
You know what I like about what they did with Mario Kart?
Because there's the usual argument where,
oh, well, it's DLC, so you shouldn't have made us
pay for it in the first place.
It should have been in the game.
They included exactly as many tracks
as they normally do in a Mario Kart game.
So that complaint can just...
And that's a philosophy that's carrying
into other games as well.
And they've publicly said that they're not
gonna change that.
Their golf game, I've never played any of their golf games,
but apparently they have a minimum for the amount
of courses and holes that will be in a golf game.
So every golf game Nintendo has released
has had a minimum amount.
And in the new one, I think you get 100% more or...
Sorry, I think it will be 50% more or 100% more.
I don't remember how many, but there's a massive amount
of holes and courses in the golf game.
Again, not really into that.
But people were freaking out about the DLC for that.
So I read up on it a little bit.
Pretty interesting.
I'm down with DLC, which is an actual expansion.
Yeah, DLC, because that's what DLC should be.
DLC is not new.
You know, Warcraft II, Beyond the Dark Portal
would have been DLC.
If it was possible.
If it was possible.
Well, it kind of was.
And I'm totally okay with expansion packs.
I love expansion packs.
Age of Empires had DLC.
Frozen Throne was an amazing expansion pack
for Warcraft III.
That's right.
Like, super good.
And if DLC legitimately builds on what was already
a free-standing game, adds more units,
adds new campaign, tweaks...
Actually, I'm not sure how I feel about tweaking balance,
unless you're adding new units.
But just, if it enhances the game and gives...
Brood War.
Gives what originally had its own, you know,
I feel like I got my money's worth out of it,
gives it a whole nother set of that,
then I feel pretty good about it.
Yeah.
I'm okay with that.
Horse armor, then, yeah, I don't know.
Well, I think, okay, you could say that,
and they took a lot of flack for that,
but hasn't the entire DLC industry turned into horse armor?
Yeah, and that's stupid.
But that's kind of our fault, because people buy it.
I don't buy it, but people buy it.
Just stop, and then it'll go away.
Because it won't be worth creating art assets
that people don't buy.
All right.
It's time.
Dun, dun, dun.
To do the million subscriber giveaway draw.
Don't even know if I can help you,
because my computer isn't seem to be really getting internet.
Oh, hey, it's working!
I'm on the other router.
I can help you.
All right.
So are we doing that random.org,
or how is this happening?
Yep, we're gonna random.org this shiz.
So basically, we are drawing the winners
for the custom-built gaming PC,
which I haven't gotten around to building yet, but I will,
the custom-built gaming PC.
Isn't it mostly built already?
No.
I haven't even touched it.
The video card's on your bench.
I thought that was the Razer one.
No.
Oh.
No, that's been torn apart.
Oh, I thought you were just rebuilding that up, and then.
We can't ship that case.
It's got scratches and crap on it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's an engineering sample.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
No, no, we'll find a case.
We'll find a good one.
We have a garage full of cases.
So custom gaming rig, Microsoft Surface Pro 3,
the one that I bought to do my review,
and because I thought I might end up using it,
but I didn't really like it that much.
And whatever our last, what was our last prize?
I don't even remember.
Ah, yes, we're redrawing the G550-J from Highlander
because the person who won it never responded.
For like the third time, I think.
Bummer for them.
All right, so we're going to the thread.
We're gonna draw it live.
One million subscribers, thank you all.
Hold on a second.
I gotta sign out.
Do, do, do, do, do.
Back to here.
Signing out.
Scrolling down.
Control-F searching.
Wow. Clicking.
You are the most helpful person ever today.
Viewing random forum thread.
You're back to being dead to me.
Taking you back off my shirt.
All right, so the first two are gonna go
to the first two people who are randomly drawn.
The third one, we're gonna keep drawing
until we find someone who is a positively contributing member
to the forum.
How are we judging?
We're just gonna kind of look at them
and if we know who they are, then they win.
This might be awkward.
I know.
We'll figure it out.
Maybe let's not say positively contributing.
Let's just say contributing.
An actual member of the Linus Tech Tips Forum
that participates.
Participatory member of the forum.
Why don't we say, just for the sake of making life
a little bit easier for ourselves,
why don't we say kind of...
Post count is sketchy.
No, no, I don't wanna use post count,
but...
Post count doesn't matter at all.
But we'll kind of do a quick glance
at their last few posts and make sure
that they're actually trying to participate.
And I'm not gonna be looking at anyone
who started participating
right when the one million subscriber giveaway started
because I said that that was gonna be a requirement
and that I wanted it to be for people
who have already participated
without me offering them a laptop.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
All right, so let's do the first draw.
Random.org, 1,119.
Oh my goodness.
Min one, 1,119.
Generate.
So now we're gonna go to page 742 in the thread.
Click on that.
Which, this?
Click on page one.
You can do that?
Yeah, and then just...
Oh, no way.
That is amazing.
All right.
Did you click go?
I mostly clicked go.
Okay, I think it worked.
All right.
This is kind of a big thread.
I think everyone's looking at the forum.
Yeah, and everyone's probably
looking at the forum right now
because that will somehow affect
their chances of winning, I guess, or something.
They will be there with us.
Oh.
Oh, derped.
Refresh it, yeah.
Oh, okay, what page was it?
742.
Let's make sure I got that right.
Yes.
Whoops.
Yes.
I don't have a very good memory,
especially when I'm sleep deprived.
Did you already have the thread loaded up?
Or did you load this?
Okay.
Everyone went to the forum.
The forum isn't hosted on Squarespace.
Yeah, I know, right?
Okay, so I really wanted to do this live,
but it looks like that is not going to happen.
I'm sorry, we do like to do these draws live
just so that you guys can trust us that we...
We can do a recorded video of it
while the camera doesn't stop and we draw it there
because that would be way too much production time.
Where are we even going to release that?
I guess we can put it unlisted on the channel
and link it in the WAN Show doc here or something.
It would be a fun video.
Oh, I don't want to do a full video for that.
Okay, we'll talk about it offline.
But, okay, so in that case,
are you even able to do the vlogs then?
Yes, I sent you an email.
All right, sweet.
Like right when the show started,
so it should be pretty recent.
Do your LMG thing.
There we go.
All right, here we go, featured build logs.
There's four things, but you only need really two of them.
But if you download it,
because you probably won't be able to view it
in your browser, you can try.
But I expect to know.
So there was one choice by the community
and there's one choice by the staff.
I don't know why that happened
because I told them considering there were so many entries,
there should be like way more than one from each.
But apparently there's one from each.
So we're doing one from each for now
because I didn't notice until today.
I probably should have checked.
So that was my fault.
At least you owned your mistake.
Yep.
All right, so slideshow.
So the first one is by Sage C
and this is Project N64.
I believe this one was the one chosen by the mods.
Why is that the slideshow?
What the heck is this?
What?
PowerPoint, why you do?
Why you do this PowerPoint?
That is super derp.
That better not be the.
What is it, like review slideshow?
From the beginning, it should be.
What are you doing?
Display settings maybe.
Here we go.
What?
Oh, that's like presenter view.
Okay, I get it.
Boop.
It's not, it's not a.
What?
Oh, hold on a second.
Wait, where did we get that?
Hold on one sec, we're learning how to use PowerPoint.
We'll be back.
Yeah.
So we're not going anywhere.
No, I think they had the right one already.
No, they don't.
But it shouldn't be an extended screen.
What are they looking at?
It's a duplicated screen.
Is it frozen?
No, I don't think so.
Try to open your start menu.
Maybe frozen, not frozen.
Oh, it's an extended display.
Why is it an extended display?
Why is it extended?
We're supposed to do duplicate displays.
What is it doing?
I don't know.
What is it, high?
This is really weird.
So we're looking at a presenter view that is not.
Oh my goodness.
All right, so let's just try previewing it from here.
This is why we don't make videos about Microsoft software.
Well.
What were they thinking?
About PowerPoint, I guess.
Who does make videos about,
someone should make a video about PowerPoint
because this is ridiculous.
That'd be the most boring video.
They should present the video from PowerPoint.
They should just record their screen
and have a PowerPoint presentation running.
I'm sure that people who use PowerPoint all the time.
Technically, I use PowerPoint all the time.
I just realized that.
Are laughing at us right now.
But I don't use this version.
So that's my defense.
I'm sure someone's laughing at us
and I'm sure that they're right
and we're idiots or whatever.
In the version that I use,
it's like super duper easy.
Okay.
Yay.
All right, find a screen.
Nope.
What are we looking at?
I have no idea.
Not a clue.
What is that?
It's not showing your screen though
because you just had a photo viewer up.
Yeah.
It's not updating or something.
Oh, okay.
That's why I said open your start menu.
Like it's not updating properly.
There's something else going on.
Yeah, when you open your start menu,
it should have shown the start menu.
Yeah, it's not working.
Oh, okay.
Well, that explains a lot now then.
So let's see if,
did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
No, not yet.
Let's just see if this does a thing.
Oh, well, okay.
Okay, okay.
New plan, new plan.
Don't worry you guys.
We're gonna find a way to do this.
Oh, there you go, that'll work.
I wanna do build guides of the week.
Dang it.
Month.
Oh, hold on a second.
Something.
Oh, oh, oh.
Okay, okay.
We heard back from Nvidia just in time.
Well, actually right around the time
we were talking about it on the show.
Freaking called it.
That's all I have to say.
It is not Nvidia's intention
to restrict support to GeForce PCs.
The reality is that the quickest path
to releasing PC support was to release it
through our existing GeForce experience software.
We are working on a plan to support non GeForce PCs,
but currently cannot commit to a timeframe for support.
All right.
Faith restored.
So it made no sense.
Like I didn't wanna like go over it too hard,
but it made no sense.
No, it made no sense.
But you were saying that there's something
in GeForce experience that it would have to be tied to.
Well, no, what I was saying was that maybe,
like I could understand why GeForce experience
might be easier.
We can go back and watch,
you can watch the archive if you want.
I never said that,
I said that the touch pad might not work or something.
Yeah, but that makes no sense.
Why not?
Who knows?
What does GeForce experience do
that would have anything to do with that?
Who knows?
The point is that as a controller,
I couldn't see any reason why it wouldn't work.
So anyway, the point is,
That's still completely valid.
None of that happened.
They just rolled it out through GeForce experience
because that's a convenient way
for them to roll driver updates out to people.
And it was really painless to get it working.
I just plugged it in and it worked,
which is nice.
All right.
Yay, faith restored in video.
Good job, you guys.
Let's go ahead and go back to Luke's email here,
which hopefully I can find.
I can't even see it.
I get too many emails.
That top one, top one, top one.
Top one.
There we go.
Future build logs.
The blue ones.
Why are there four?
The blue ones.
Okay.
My brain is exploding.
All right, let's do this one first.
Why did it download two?
Oh, did you click both of them?
So what we'll have to do is,
yeah, we'll just do screen region capture
and then we will,
oh, I don't know.
Let's pick this scene or something.
Oh, and it's gone.
Add screen region.
All right, stream-ception for a little bit here, guys.
And slide show from beginning.
So now we're just hoping that it's working?
Yeah.
Cool.
It's probably working.
Okay, do you want to give the background for this?
Project N64.
Well, let's just, let's go with them.
I think they got that much so far.
By Sage C.
Let's go with them.
So this is all the included components,
which is not super important in my opinion.
You can check out all the included components,
all that kind of stuff if you go to the actual build logs.
Are you hating on his inclusion of a broken N64?
No, I think that's pretty cool
because that was my,
actually this is an interesting discussion.
That was my favorite part about listing
the system specs of my mineral PC
was when they asked for case.
Right.
So I was like, fish tank.
Yeah.
So that's, yeah, I know.
That's pretty cool.
But the point of the build logs isn't necessarily like,
oh, he used AMD instead of Intel.
Like, but that's not really the point.
So I don't really want to spend too much time
on system specs.
This is the point, the awesomeness that is this computer.
So yeah, he shows in the beginning
where he just kind of tore apart the N64
and started removing things,
then putting in his motherboard and whatnot.
And then if we move on forward,
you can see the end shots, which are amazing.
Wow.
That's ridiculous.
That's fantastic.
Pretty freaking cool.
I've seen some like old console
build a computer into it builds,
but this one is kind of incredible
even having seen those in the past.
That's really clean.
Yeah, it is extremely clean.
Usually you see some sort of breakage
and this is extremely well done.
All right.
Super awesome.
I believe that one was voted for by,
see, he stole my idea.
Yeah, no.
I believe that one was voted for by the mods.
Someone in the chat was like,
hey, he stole my idea.
Like, yeah, it's also been done before.
Yeah, the idea of building a computer
in an old console is not really new.
No, it's awesome.
And he did an extremely good job,
but it probably wasn't your original idea.
And it, yeah, more people will do it in the future.
All right.
Sorry, I'm just trying to be careful
not to leak anyone's personal information here.
So, whoops. I would be happy about that.
Was it guest?
Here we go.
All right.
So we've got our second one here.
So just in case you didn't know,
water-cooled PC desk mod with car sound system.
This one's got some pretty nice specs.
Two 780 TIs and SLI.
Lots of storage, holy crap.
Wow, that is a lot of storage.
Seven terabytes of storage plus the SSDs.
Although I don't think he,
no, he didn't make it into the 10 terabyte thread.
Yeah, bummer.
Close enough.
And from what I've heard,
you're allowed to be a heathen
and post in the 10 terabyte thread,
even if you don't have 10 terabytes.
Oh, no.
Just to hang out with everyone if you want, I guess.
I should post our server.
When we get our new Seagate drives,
we're getting some super high cap Seagate drives
for our server that are gonna make us
maybe near the top of the 10 terabyte plus thread.
Will we not be in red anymore?
Cause that would be nice.
I'm sorry?
We've been riding the red line for like months.
It's been relatively okay lately.
I expanded it to 21 terabytes
and we offloaded four terabytes the other day.
There you go, nice.
All right, wow.
So it looks extremely similar to the Nvidia desk
that we went to go see.
Yeah, that's true.
Not exactly the same at all.
Yeah, no, but the horizontal reservoirs.
The Nvidia one had two completely separate PCs,
one on either side, which didn't make a ton of sense to me,
but whatever.
They're Nvidia, they do what they want, I guess.
These dual power supplies in there,
pretty sick looking system.
Oh yeah.
That is super cool.
Gets a lot more sick than we had originally thought.
I'm face roll.
Love all this, got a couple optical drives in
because you can, like in dash console stuff in here
because you can, fan controller because you can.
Pretty much everything about this build is because you can.
Can.
Sick build, very, very cool.
So.
Awesome.
I think that pretty much wraps it up
for the WAN show, you guys.
Thank you for tuning in.
All over 5,000 of you, I think we had around 5,500 peak.
You guys are fantastic, we appreciate it.
Sorry about the problems at the beginning.
Yeah, we're sorry.
One thing to note is that our folding team
and our boink teams are super awesome,
so you should go join them if you want to contribute
your compute power to a good cause.
They're both doing extremely well.
I don't have numbers off hand here,
which Whaler's probably gonna stab me for, but.
I'll join your boink team.
Did you, no, you haven't.
No, I haven't.
There's a few mods that are on it, and I'm on it.
I'm doing pretty good, but I'm not at the top.
I think my dad might still be at the top.
Really?
Or someone's finally past him.
That's awesome.
I'm not sure.
We gotta get him some more hardware so he can stay there,
which we will be doing soon.
His dad helped us with the whole room liquid cooling thing,
so yeah, and yes, we will make videos about it,
and no, they're not ready yet.
They're not even close.
They're probably not coming soon.
Yeah, Ed's on vacation for at least another week,
and then when he gets back, if he has time,
then he will start working on that project.
Start, he hasn't started yet?
Not really.
Like he's done some, but not, it's not.
And there's quite a bit of footage to go through.
People are yelling about the giveaway again.
I think we already tried.
I don't think the forum is back up, but I could check.
Looks like no.
Looks like not.
I'm sorry, guys.
We'll have to post the giveaway shortly.
Yep.
All right.
Thanks again for watching, and as always,
don't forget to subscribe to Lime's Tech Tips.
Yay.
That was a different ending to the WAN show
that we don't normally do.
Yes, it was.
I couldn't think of anything else.
Forum does seem to be back.
Oh, no, there it goes.
Never mind.
Because the thing is, it came back up,
and then everyone was like, giveaway, and went back,
and then it went back down.
Right.
It's like, oh.
Oh, there's no audio for the outro,
and also I didn't even have the thing on.
Yay, we carried a couch and went through a swamp.
It happened.
You'll have to trust us.
Whoo.