Oh, I really wish I could tell you guys why I'm late today,
but it's under embargo and I can't, but it's really cool.
It's like, well, no, but there's always a different reason.
And today the reason is actually really cool.
Yeah, we, what's that?
Yeah, yeah, we're straight.
Jake got kicked off hardcore.
All right, so we've got a great show for you guys today.
Dennis is going to be sharing with us his experience
of doing his very first episode of Tech Linked.
That is going up.
Can someone zoom us in a little bit more?
We have, we're like swimming in the frame here,
if you don't mind.
Oh, that'd be great, thank you.
Yeah, I like to get close and intimate.
Yeah, come on over here.
See, Dennis has never been on WAN Show before.
I have.
So have you?
Not for an entire show.
Are you on for the entire show?
No, I never actually.
Also, where the devil are my other adapters, Jake?
On my desk.
You have $1 or more.
I want to.
All right, so Dennis hosted his very first episode
of Tech Linked today.
They request.
And it was pretty cringy from what I saw.
No, it was not.
Don't bump the table, cause the mic's attached to it.
It was not, but.
It was pretty cringy from what I saw,
but maybe I missed some parts of it
that were going smoothly, that maybe were great.
So can you go ahead and let me know how that was for you?
So, Brandon was shooting it.
It was fine, Linus.
It was, okay, so.
Hold on, Brandon, don't go away.
Let Dennis finish.
How did it go, Dennis?
In the beginning, it was kind of hard
to read some words for pronunciation.
Yeah, some words are hard.
So Riley had to change the word,
like what's the word I couldn't pronounce?
I don't remember.
And he just changed to something very simple,
like just say great.
Okay.
And I just used that word, or like better,
something like that.
He just used some words he uses too hard for me.
Right, okay.
And I think it's good, it's good.
You should watch the video.
It's coming out very soon, I think.
Okay, out of 10, Brandon.
Oh.
I think it's better than, okay, it's better than.
You did better than my first time on camera, so 6.5.
6.5, okay.
Out of 10.
So today's episode of Tech Linked, don't miss it.
6.5 out of 10 quality, but fortunately,
fortunately we have at least fixed
the stream quality of the WAN show.
Some of you are speculating
that we might have upgraded to a different camera.
No, all we did was change the video settings
to the same as we used on the LG UltraWide
streamed PC build yesterday.
And...
It looks so good.
Bippity boppity fix.
Oh, Brandon says we've also fixed
some of the lighting as well.
So the reality of it is that the lights in question
are like $60 soft boxes off being today.
Brandon, these are nothing fancy, right?
I don't think.
Nothing fancy.
And the camera is identical.
The capture hardware is identical.
We've just been doing it that wrong for that long.
So on that note, let's get this WAN show
epic fail party started.
I don't expect you to.
You know, they can hear you right now, right?
Can they?
Can they hear you?
Oh my God.
All right, so we have got a great show for you guys today.
We've got a bunch of cool topics.
Apple's new MacBook Pro throttles so bad.
So bad that we had to do a dedicated live stream today
to show how we could get it to throttle
from being inside the packaging to thermal thermal
from being inside the packaging to thermal thermal
from being inside the packaging to thermal throttled
in less than 20 minutes.
And we probably could have done it a lot faster
if I had any idea what the heck I was doing with a MacBook.
And if it was already unboxed,
we could have done it in like one minute.
So a number of different publications have talked about this
so we'll talk about our results as well as others.
In other news, the new MacBook Pro keyboard
does apparently have crumb protection.
What's crumb protection?
Crumb protection.
We will go through that in more detail
once we get to that news topic.
This is the part where we tease them, you know?
It's like the news segment that's like,
make sure you watch the news at 11, you know?
Like, oh, coffee could give you AIDS in your mouth,
more at 11.
And you're like, no, I need to know now.
It's a hook.
It's a hook, yeah, it's the hook.
See, Dennis has learned so much about making videos
since he got here.
Like when I first met him, he was like,
yeah, I'm gonna make a video about an interview
and I'm gonna have a picture of Hitler in the background.
Lance, why do you mention this every time?
And I have to explain this every time.
Just forget about that, it's not true.
It is true.
It's 100% true.
When I interviewed Dennis on Skype,
he had a poster of Hitler on the wall behind him.
See, now he's trying to run away from the truth,
but it was the truth.
Okay, it does require a little bit more context.
You know what, we're gonna talk about that later too.
The Ryzen 3000 series may have more than eight cores.
This is a rumor over at Tech Power Up.
MSI apparently has dropped some hints.
And finally, yet another CPU rumor, Intel chips,
the new one's coming, may finally on the consumer side
have soldered IHSs.
Maybe Intel has finally bowed to the pressures.
Would it be bowed or bowed?
Look what I'm asking, forget it.
Bowed to the pressure probably, okay.
All right, so why don't we jump into our first topic here.
Dennis's Hitler poster.
Oh, that, okay.
Why did you have a poster of Hitler on the wall behind you
when I interviewed you for a job?
I did not, I didn't remember that I have that on my wall.
And that is as a reference about something
that the political issue that we had back then in Taiwan
didn't actually mean about Hillary.
He said, it has some Chinese character on that,
but he just didn't understand.
So I misunderstood your Hitler poster.
It's not like appreciating that person.
Twitch chat, Dennis did nothing wrong.
Oh no. Yeah, that, I was-
No, I'm not saying Dennis did nothing wrong,
but, and let's get those, let's get that chopped out
so we can take that out of context, right?
I'm not saying Dennis did nothing wrong.
It's just that Dennis had a poster of Hitler
on the wall behind him during a job interview.
That was a mistake, but the poster didn't mean,
the poster was like being against this guy.
It's like, no, no.
Right.
But I didn't have a symbol.
But it didn't have a symbol.
But it has Chinese characters.
But it has Chinese characters that mean no.
I wish I had a picture of it, but I don't have it.
I would, it's gone.
It's already gone.
I think my mom took it down.
We should totally do a new shirt.
Oh God.
Like a Dennis did nothing wrong shirt.
We could just get some Sharpie and give you a little-
Massa?
Actually, you know what?
We're not gonna do that.
As a general rule, Linus Tech Tips tries to stay pretty,
you know, pretty PG friendly, you know?
Maybe not even-
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, come on.
How much time have you spent on YouTube?
People are like, I would buy that shirt.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But have they seen my, the new shirt we sell at LTX?
Wait, is that listed online yet?
I don't think so.
It's only sell, we only sell them at LTX.
Seriously?
So we don't even have it listed online?
Do you have one here?
Should I go grab it?
You should go grab it.
Yeah, sure.
Let's totally do a variant of like the Dennis shirt.
Oh man, yeah, that would be awesome.
This thing is like, it's a moving meme.
Like once you put it on, it's a wearable,
it's a completely wearable meme.
I actually had no, honestly,
I don't know about a lot of the shirt designs
that they work on these days
until they show up on the store
or like add a meetup apparently.
So there's a couple of things in the store here
that I'm just gonna, I'm gonna pop up here.
I actually haven't tested my screen cap
to see if it's working yet.
Oh, it is cool.
So this one, for example, the troll Linus shirt,
the name is real.
They were actually trolling me when they created it.
This one, someone showed up at the meetup wearing this.
This was an A prime initiative, absolutely horrible.
It is every bit as awful in person as it looks online.
And the way that it's printed is actually really nice.
Like it looks crisp.
And then even like everything under the armpits,
the whole thing is printed with horrible thumbnail faces.
And then of course they created this mess.
Go ahead, you gotta stand up.
Oh my God, this was supposed for a B-roll we did.
And I don't know why they took it down.
They took it out from the,
I think it's S8 review or something.
Really?
They took that out of the video.
It's very distasteful.
I don't, I don't, I don't agree with you.
I think it's fine.
So every time someone brought me one of these at the show,
I was going out of my way.
I know, I saw so many, you like drew on my eye
and mustache.
Yeah, so I was defacing all of the Dennis shirts.
Whenever I had time, like if there were like 30 people
in front of me-
You actually spent a lot of time on that.
Oh yeah, so there was one,
oh, was there one where I like,
didn't I color in your, an entire eye patch on your eye?
Yes, that's the one.
That one took so long, but I was like, you know what?
This is 100% worth it.
Yeah, so this shirt is not available online yet.
No.
Not yet.
Oh, okay.
Are we going to put it online?
I don't know.
Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I mean, honestly, I think it's kind of fun to have
like exclusive merch that's only available
at something like a meetup.
I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
Actually we should, have we even, when was LTX?
Last Sunday.
I mean, time's a blur for me.
It hasn't, we haven't done a WAN show since LTX.
Last Saturday.
How was it?
What did you think?
Oh, it was crazy.
I think, I think we have more people this year, right?
Oh, quite a few more.
We had over 1100 people.
So just almost 1200 people show up this year.
Okay, so most of the people,
most of the people I met, they are not from Canada.
Like most, they're mostly from the state, Australia, UK.
They're from everywhere.
Okay, I have a confession.
Yeah.
Hold that thought.
That stresses me out a lot.
So the night before I was actually having
like a panic attack a little bit.
And honestly, like everything was fine.
I actually apologized to Colton and Steph afterward
for freaking out, but it got to the point
where I actually asked them, okay,
how much are we in this for?
And they gave me a total number.
It was more than 10,000, but less than a hundred.
And so I was like, and my initial,
my immediate response was,
and I felt so bad for saying this.
I was like, okay then.
So worst case scenario, we're out,
however many thousands of dollars it was,
and we just refund everyone.
And they were like, what did you just say?
Cause basically I was so worried about a few things
that I was like, I thought we were gonna be Tanacon 2.0.
And this was just me freaking out because,
and then like, it didn't even make me feel better
for longer than like two seconds,
because what I realized based on how huge
the international audience was,
the last time that a lot of people
were gonna be in this for hundreds,
or maybe even over a thousand dollars to come attend.
So that was actually where the idea came from
to allow decoration of my car.
Yeah, that's right before the day.
This guy, this guy right here.
I ruined your car actually, that was for me.
Last on the way, like we drove back from a LTX.
Midnight.
Like midnight.
And we were trying to figure out more things to do.
Yeah.
And I thought, I didn't know they would do that much though.
I thought just like outside
and they like throw everything in your car.
So initially we were thinking spray bombs
and that would have been way worse.
That would have been a disaster.
What I think we should have done was just Sharpie markers.
No, I think what you should have done
is just lock your doors and.
Oh no, I was okay with them decorating the inside.
Yeah, well, so my seatbelt doesn't work right now.
Oh my God.
Yeah, it was working before, but this morning-
The driver's side?
Yeah, the driver's side doesn't work.
It's like jammed or something.
I actually need to fix that.
You are just too dangerous to drive.
Yeah, so anyway, I was just having this panic attack
because I was freaking out.
Anyway, I apologize to them later
because honestly the event was a lot of fun.
And I let you finish your thought now.
I'm sorry, Dennis.
Oh, I don't remember.
You forgot.
Oh, I don't remember.
I don't, okay.
So there are a lot of people flying from everywhere.
Tons.
And there's a, even like someone like just arrived
from China and bring his luggage and his mom to the event.
Like two big loggages.
I didn't see that guy, really?
Yeah, I have to help them to like store the luggage.
So I even think like we might need a locker
for them next year.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Like 10, 12 hours flight.
Anyway, yes, no, we do not plan to offer refunds
because we consider the event a success now.
We actually got a ton of really positive user feedback.
In fact, Marquez tweeted about how he really wasn't happy
with a Verge article that was
about another YouTuber convention
that was poorly organized in a disaster.
And he kind of goes, yo,
where's the positive headline for LTX?
I've heard nothing but positive things.
And that's cool because a lot
of the time people will say something positive to your face.
Like if I walk up to someone, I'm like,
hey, how are you enjoying LTX?
It's like when the waiter comes to your table,
like if your food sucks,
do you ever say, yeah, this food is trash.
I'm not getting a tip today.
Like.
Some, I just, I thought depends.
What if it's just like on the low side of mediocre?
If they come along, how's everything going with your meal?
I thought it's okay.
Yeah, it's okay.
So there, that's not useful.
So if I walk up to someone, I'm like,
hey, how's the, how's LTX?
And people are like, oh yeah, it's good.
I have no way if they're just like shy
and they think it's good.
Or if they're like kind of unhappy
and they're like, oh yeah, it's good.
Cause I don't know.
I'm meeting all these people for the first time.
I can't really, I can't really read them.
So, so it's way more important to us
to hear what other people say.
Now I actually haven't done it yet.
I need to set aside an hour for myself.
And Jay made a video,
Barnacles made a video and Steve from Gamers Nexus.
Oh yeah, he did a really unusual video.
Did you check it out?
I haven't seen any of it.
So I only skimmed a little bit of it so far.
So I haven't taken away all of my thoughts from it yet.
But Steve used the opportunity of coming up here
for LTX to enjoy my city, my hometown.
He went up to the, to the bike trails up on Whistler
and he did some downhill biking.
I saw that.
And recorded his thoughts on LTX
while just like cruising down the trails.
I thought that was really cool.
And that's a really unusual thing for him to do.
And he even said, he apologizes for making the video
right in the description.
Yeah, because he just wasn't sure
people were gonna like it.
I saw that, but I-
Here, let's check this out.
Reviewing Linus Tech Tips's LTX
while downhill biking at Whistler.
Here, what's he say?
We'll be posting more serious content from the event later,
including an interview.
Oh, no, I think he took down the apology.
Oh, no, there it is.
No, it was a comment.
It was a comment.
He pinned his own comment.
Hey all, obviously not normal content for us.
We've had nonstop travel for a few months.
We hope you'll excuse this one-off
different content piece for now.
I thought it was, I thought it was really cool
to see people come up here,
experience something different, engage with the community
and do something different.
Not just make normal convention content
because we're not trying to be Computex or CES.
It's supposed to be, it's supposed to fill a gap.
And honestly, this year, even though our attendance
only went from about 800 to about 1200,
so it's like a 50% uptake, which is a success,
but it's still not huge.
It's not like we're packs all of a sudden.
I think the difference in creator attendance
is what is the difference between LTX 2017
being like a Linus Tech Tips fan meetup
and LTX 2018 being a more impactful industry event.
The fact that you've got guys like Jay and Steve
and Louis Rossman was there for a little while
and Barnacles showing up and having a good time.
Barnacles emailed me after the fact
and said that he had a really hard time
making a vlog there.
And the reason was that he was spending
so much of his time interacting with fans.
And all three, Steve, I haven't actually talked
to Louis yet, but Steve, Barnacles and Jay
all talked to me and said they were surprised
at how many people there were fans of their channels
because they kind of came into it,
like they came into it to support us.
Like we asked them really nicely to come.
They weren't paid to attend or anything.
The most we were able to offer was like,
look, LTX is not a super profitable event
and it's still not, but we'd love to pay
for your hotel and your flight.
If you can come up and be part of this for us
and not just for us, for the community.
And they decided to do it and they came up
and they were like, yeah, I was surprised
at how many people here were here for me.
And I was like, that is so cool.
So that's where LTX turns a corner
and becomes not just about us,
but also about other people and other creators
that can be there.
There was one other one that I was really hoping
would be there, but he got pulled aside
for a separate thing.
Anyway, all three of them have expressed interest.
I'm not gonna commit anything on their behalf,
but all three of them have expressed interest
in coming back next year, which is super amazing and cool
because Vancouver has like nothing for tech events.
We've got like SIGGRAPH, which is very like
animation industry, like computer design industry.
Like it's not consumer.
Yeah, so I'm excited.
I'm really looking forward to next year already.
Me too, but then the night before
I'm probably gonna be like, everything's a disaster.
I told you it will be fine.
I know.
You know, people like making so much effort to this
and I know you stress out, but maybe do your car again,
like buy a new car and let's do that again.
Or you know what, buy a helicopter or something.
I do have to say though,
I think an event really needs something impactful,
something truly memorable, something really different.
LTX 2017 had the first ever Threadripper running.
We had someone game on Threadripper for the first time there.
That was really cool.
LTX 2018 had the car.
Nobody who tagged that car is ever gonna forget that.
So even though my car is destroyed, 100% worth it,
I would destroy my car for the community.
Mind you, my car is only worth a couple of hundred dollars.
Literally asked how much when I went to buy my minivan.
That was a trade-in.
They offered like two or $300 or something,
which is basically what you can get from like a recycler.
And I was like, forget it, I'll keep it.
I wouldn't take it if you want to give it for free.
Really?
It runs.
First, that's a standard car.
Oh, don't, no, don't hate on standards.
Standard is good stuff.
No, the windshield's like broken and leaking and all that.
Well, it doesn't leak anymore.
Really, did you fix it?
My mechanic traced the leak and cocked it up.
Oh, it's still, it's dangerous to drive.
Yeah, I think you're being a hater.
Ochattak asks, when can we expect more creators
on Floatplane?
So Luke's not here today,
as you guys may or may not have noticed,
because he is working on some Floatplane stuff
that's super important.
We've got some payments and reporting stuff
that we've really got to get sorted out
before we can move forward with some of the bigger plans.
And that's why it actually means a lot to us
that Kyle and Tech Deals are over there
and kind of helping us ride out these bugs.
Now, they are getting paid.
They have people subscribing to them
and like things are working,
but we're not ready to take on like a huge creator.
Like if PewDiePie came to us tomorrow and was like,
I want it on this Floatplane thing,
I would have to turn them away.
I'd have to, I'd have no choice,
just because we're not ready yet.
The actual CDN architecture is really good.
And that's what we've spent a lot of our time on.
So you don't get to see a lot of the actual engineering
that has gone on to make it really strong and sustainable.
We could scale it up actually very quickly,
but some of the other stuff,
the reporting, the payments need some tweaking.
We actually had an issue where some people were,
some people were having payment issues
and their support tickets were going to spam
and they weren't ending up in our management system.
And so I had to send us some very apologetic emails.
I felt really, really bad about that.
But like that's why we don't want a million users overnight.
So, all right, so did we do like a news topic
or something, I guess?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, it's pretty flexible.
Like we don't have to, does it matter?
Maybe why don't we just talk about it like that?
Talk about something,
cause I don't really know any of this.
You want me to talk about something you can do?
Okay, okay, hold on.
Oh, that flip phone, wait, wait, go on.
Flip phone?
That's not a flip phone.
Wait, no, no, no, no, okay, that's in TechLink.
Where did you use flip phone?
Flip phone, same song.
You're drunk, you're drunk.
Wow, okay, oh man.
Okay, you know what?
We're gonna do this topic anyway.
The original article is from TechCrunch.
Let's go ahead and pop Linus's screen up here.
Disney streaming services, resurrecting the Clone Wars.
And I was like, oh yeah, I'll get Dennis to do this.
Everyone knows Star Wars.
Oh God, Star Wars, again.
We just talk about it in TechLink.
Star Wars is culturally relevant.
I don't watch Star Wars.
Why?
Because I just don't like fake stuff.
Fission, I mean.
You don't like what?
Efficient?
Fission.
Fiction.
You don't like fiction?
I don't.
And I don't like long movies either.
That's like three hours long, right?
Two, three hours.
Well, this is a TV show, but.
Oh, such as Star Wars.
Some of the Star Wars movies are on the long side.
So what movies do you like?
I like, actually, I like TV show.
I like The Office.
You like The Office.
Oh, this is the best.
Okay, so Star Wars is nothing like The Office.
No, no, no, no, no, I can't beat The Office.
Do you like superhero movies?
Like Avengers or whatever?
I watched Ant-Man last week.
Yeah.
It's cool.
Okay.
I mean, I'm not like a big fan of heroes.
Not a big fan of heroes.
Okay, so you don't like heroes.
Okay, Deadpool, Deadpool, Deadpool was fun to watch.
Okay, so you like kind of an irreverent sort of dark humor.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay, Star Wars doesn't have a lot of that.
Also, I don't like Lord of the Rings.
You don't like Lord of the Rings.
You know what?
I'm not even gonna give you too hard of a time for that.
I mean.
Okay, are you talking Lord of the Rings trilogy
or like The Hobbit?
I don't know what you're talking about, it's that movie.
I don't know what you're talking about.
The movie, the movie.
Well, they're both movies.
Okay, I don't know.
Just how about both?
I watched once, I fell asleep.
I just, you fell asleep?
I know.
During which one?
You don't even know.
Oh, I don't know.
Okay, were there hobbits?
I'm just kidding, that's not helpful.
There are not all of them.
I don't know.
Do you like Monty Python?
Why is that?
You don't know Monty Python.
You know what?
I'm gonna give you some,
I'm gonna give you some TV homework.
Okay.
I wanna understand what makes you tick.
Are you familiar with Life's Too Short?
I think, okay, I think I've been trapped
with The Office for too long
because I've been watching that show for almost two years.
I just re-watching, re-watching.
And I'm just a digger to it.
Really?
So I just can't get out of it.
Okay.
I need to try to get something new.
I'm gonna get you something new and you will like it.
Okay.
If you like The Office.
I like that kind of humor.
Do you like the American Office or the British Office?
American.
American Office.
I don't get British humor.
Okay.
Oh.
Oh, you're gonna, oh, okay, no, I don't.
Well, okay.
Do you have a hard time understanding the accent?
Oh yes, that too.
Oh crap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can only understand American.
You only understand American.
Well then it's a wonder that you managed
to hang around with me because I don't speak American.
Canadian.
I know what you mean.
Same thing.
I mean, the accent sound is, really I can't tell
the difference.
Is this a shot at me for saying that Taiwanese
and Chinese are the same thing?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Because you kind of owed me one.
Like in fairness to you, you owed me one.
You owed me one here.
The accent, I can't tell.
Seriously, I cannot tell your accent or someone from LA.
You can't tell like me or John.
I can tell that.
Okay.
But that's very-
No, no, because West Coast, like Pacific West Coast
or Pacific Northwest, especially.
Sorry, not Pacific West Coast.
It's all Pacific if it's West Coast.
Pacific Northwest, like anyone from Oregon
through to Washington, up like through BC,
like along the West Coast, we all sound the same.
Okay.
Yeah.
But can you tell though?
No.
Okay.
Oh no, like I could meet someone from Washington state
or from Oregon.
I'd have no idea that they're American or Canadian.
Oh really?
No, I wouldn't know.
Okay.
Whereas like Eastern Canadian or like Southern US,
Eastern US, there you can pick it up like pretty quick.
How about Toronto?
Toronto, I don't notice much.
No, not really.
Like the metropolitan areas, not too much.
Okay.
All right.
So let's go ahead and talk about this Clone Wars thing.
So this is unfortunate Luke's not here on the show today
because he will either be amped about this or he won't
because I know that he really liked the original series
and was super mad at sort of what Disney has been doing
with some aspects of animated Star Wars.
So it ran on Cartoon Network for five seasons.
It's coming back.
It was the adventures of Anakin and Obi-Wan
as well as some new characters
during the Clone War.
Fans praised its ability to showcase a wide range
of stories, characters, and even genres.
And it was canceled after Disney's acquisition
of Lucasfilm with a final batch of episodes
known as the Lost Missions airing on Netflix.
Characters and story elements were subsequently incorporated
into the animated series Star Wars Rebels
which is more kiddie and even into the latest film Solo.
Okay.
Fortunately, that's not as, I still haven't seen Solo.
Fortunately, that's not a spoiler for me though
because I never watched the Clone Wars.
So yesterday they announced that Clone Wars will return
for 12 more episodes and it will air
on Disney's upcoming streaming service.
And they appear to be the end of the Clone Wars story.
So all they're doing is kind of closing it out
and they are treating this as a way to get people
onto their streaming service.
As a general consumer and not necessarily
the techiest person of all time,
how do you feel about the concept
of having to subscribe to multiple streaming services
to access different shows?
So you know how gaming used to all be on Steam?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then all of a sudden we had EA Origin.
Oh, I actually don't like that.
And then we had Ubisoft's Uplay.
And now we've got Epic Games Launcher.
I know, I know, yeah.
Battle.net Game Launcher.
I like to keep it simple.
So would you
simply issue a new streaming service
in favor of simplicity and just go,
no, I'm only going to subscribe to one thing.
If you want me to watch it that bad,
make sure it's on, let's say Netflix, for example.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If there's another service like Netflix,
I would, it's like Mindy Project.
The second season, I don't remember,
it was on Hulu before, only on Hulu.
So I wouldn't pay to what I was owning on Netflix.
I'm not going to pay for that.
But it still depends on how much you love the show though.
If the office is gone on Netflix,
I will subscribe to Hulu.
Would you unsubscribe from Netflix?
Is the anchor show the most important thing to you?
This is, ooh, this is interesting.
Okay.
I don't know.
If that platform has really other good shows as well,
I would unsub Netflix.
Really?
Then I will follow that one.
Okay.
Interesting.
So, oh, yeah, Jake's gonna have to come get it.
Come get it, come get it.
All right.
So anyway, Disney, man,
it's probably gonna be successful,
but I'm really frustrated
because part of the entire beauty of cable cutting
was that you could get rid of that,
you know, at least here anyway,
you know, 70 to over $100 monthly fee that you were paying,
and you could replace it entirely with your internet,
plus maybe like if you get a basic Netflix subscription,
I think it's what, like 7.99 if you don't get a 4K?
Nine, I think 9.99.
Is it 9.99?
I don't know anymore.
I've got the 4K one, which I think is 13.99.
Oh, you have 4K.
I don't even have 4K TV.
Yeah, so what's up, Ed?
You're a bit out of focus.
Oh, I'm leaning back.
That's the problem.
I can stop doing that, I'm sorry.
So that was the beauty of it
was that you could get all of your content
and your internet for one low price
instead of having to get internet and content.
But now with more and more content providers
working on building streaming platforms,
there's nothing we're gonna be able to do
if we want to have access
to an all-you-can-eat style of content consumption.
There's nothing we're gonna be able to do
to avoid the rates starting to creep up.
Like all of a sudden you're gonna be subscribed
to Netflix and Hulu and Disney and, you know, Comcast.
What's that thing that the Vessel team left and went to?
I mean, for that matter, Floatplane,
you might subscribe to individual creators.
What's that?
Crave TV?
No, not Crave, that's a local thing, I think.
Oh, I can't remember.
It was like something that I couldn't figure out
why anyone would care about.
Verizon's streaming service, blah, blah, blah.
Well, there's so many.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I think Hulu doesn't work in Canada.
That's, and-
Oh. Yeah, I did look at that.
Apparently they killed it in May.
Oh.
The Verizon TV streaming service is probably,
oh wow, oh wow, these articles are brutal.
Holy crap.
Here, hold on, I'll screen share with you guys
so you can read along with me here.
So this one is probably not gonna happen.
This one's not too bad.
Verizon is finally putting its terrible streaming service
out to pasture, says bgr.com.
No one even seems to know what it was, Go90, Go90.
Made multi-billion dollar takeovers of AOL and Yahoo,
brands known for providing email scams to seniors
and leaking billions of customer accounts.
Wow, this is a very colored account of things.
And now Go90, it's public and very expensive
millennial-friendly online streaming service.
I think the key to creating something
that doesn't appeal to millennials
is trying to target millennials.
Like, what does that even mean?
What is a millennial-oriented streaming service?
Well, you're technically a millennial.
What's, what's that word?
Okay, so millennials, I forget what exactly
the millennial age here.
So it's a generation.
So anyone born between 1981 and 1996.
Yeah, so I'm at the outer, I'm at the older end
and you're solidly in there.
So what would, what would appeal to you as a millennial?
What would appeal to me, like what?
Exactly, exactly.
Appeal to me.
Um, money.
Money, oh, forget it.
I don't, I don't know.
You're a marketing executive.
Okay.
You have to market to millennials, what do you got?
Like something like fun, like, um.
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I feel like we haven't actually talked about
a lot of the news.
So why don't we get on that?
Apple's new MacBook Pro,
thermal throttles pretty frigging hard.
So the original article here is from nine to five Mac.
I can't remember if these guys were one of the ones
that unfairly slammed me over the iMac Pro thing
and now feels bad, but hasn't said anything.
Actually, were these guys the ones
that claimed in their article
that they reached out to me,
but actually I never heard from them?
That would be interesting.
Maybe I don't wanna promote these guys.
Nine to five Mac, iMac, Linus.
Let's see.
Story of resentless, ill-informed YouTuber.
Oh no, that's Apple Insider.
Hold on a second.
iMac, Linus, broken.
Let's see, Apple Insider, Mac rumors.
Okay, no.
Okay, I don't actually see anything on nine to five Mac.
Okay, cool.
Nice guys, nine to five Mac.
Here's how it throttles with Final Cut Pro X exports.
Yeah, so we actually did a stream of that today
from my office where after seeing Dave Lee's video,
I was like, okay, well, let's see how long it'll take us
from packaged to thermal throttling with the MacBook Pro,
with the 2018 MacBook Pro.
We got the Core i9 version,
so that's like a $7,000 notebook that thermal throttles.
If you hit it with a really intense load,
basically immediately,
and then if you hit it with a less intense load
after like a couple minutes, it's pretty brutal
and it's something that I'm starting to not like wonder
if Apple is doing on purpose,
but it's something that I'm starting to get
really frustrated that Apple is doing on purpose.
So the original MacBook,
you guys may or may not remember this,
but we did a video where we water cooled it.
That was a passively cooled machine, if I recall correctly.
It's been a while,
but we water cooled it by basically
taking the entire machine,
putting some like putty in the screw holes
and then like putting it in a tray of water
that wasn't so deep that it would come up
and go into the ports or into the keyboard.
And we were able to get something to the tune
of nearly double the performance out of it.
But that was supposed to be a thin and light.
It was supposed to be a computer with unprecedented,
like unprecedented like portability.
That was the whole point of it.
And so this is a pretty different type.
So basically we accepted it,
but now they're doing this with professional machines,
like the iMac Pro that thermal throttles like crazy.
And we opened it up.
We saw the thermal solution.
It was very clearly not going to handle a Vega graphics card
and up to an 18 core processor.
And Apple ships that thing with up to an 18 core processor.
And then now this MacBook Pro where they went
and without making significant changes
to the thermal solution,
which already had a hard time with the core i7
that was in it before,
they went and they put two more computing cores in it.
They went and they put a core i9 in it.
So your performance actually isn't any better,
but Apple's charging you more for it.
And on paper, it seems to be faster.
So it's gotten to the point now
where it looks not like bad design,
but it looks like intentional deception.
Like if you bought a car that was 600 horsepower
instead of 400 horsepower,
yes, horsepower is not the be all and end all
of car speed we know.
But if you bought a car that was 600
instead of 400 horsepower,
but there was some other component inside it
that limited it so that both of them delivered 350,
how mad would you be if you paid for the extra package?
And why did they sell me that?
Why do we accept this from Apple?
I like how you make it like easy for me to understand
what you're trying to say.
Yeah, now I get it.
Cause I couldn't come to be anything.
You need to do that.
Ours was throttling well under its base clock,
even just doing things like exporting in final cut.
Very frustrating.
So I don't know.
I just, it.
So they have something to limit their something.
Well, the problem is that if you hit it
with a really hard load,
the CPU reaches a hundred degrees basically instantly.
Oh.
And it'll turn itself down to protect itself.
That's a safety mechanism
that Intel has built into the chip.
Because otherwise, I mean,
if you just let it get as hot as it wants,
you could cook on it.
And it would burn itself out very quickly.
Oh.
People are like Linus,
you aren't supposed to encode on a laptop.
Why is Dan's wearing two glasses?
I'm also wearing two shirts.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really hot.
That's fine.
Okay, this is actually how I wear my sunglasses.
Oh, really?
I just put them over.
Really?
I lost my, the one with prescription.
What's wrong?
You can't really tell if this is something.
Yes, you can.
You can.
Yes, you can.
Like sunglasses, you can tell.
It's only the same shape.
Seriously though, I do that every day.
And no one look at me like weird ever.
Maybe you just can't tell the difference
between how they normally look at you
and how they look at you
when you're wearing two pairs of sunglasses.
Like seriously, can't you?
Like maybe the shirt was already enough
they were gonna be looking at you
whatever way they look at you.
Oh yeah, fine, fine.
Oh man.
Okay.
In other news,
in an internal document distributed
to Apple authorized service providers,
Apple has confirmed the third generation keyboard
on the 2018 MacBook Pro is equipped with a membrane
to quote, prevent debris
from entering the butterfly mechanism.
So publicly, Apple has only said
that it features an improved third generation keyboard
for quieter typing,
but some people suspected that the silicon membrane
was actually to prevent crumbs
from getting into it and ruining it.
This is another thing that's very frustrating about Apple
that they can't just communicate openly with their audience.
Like we make mistakes
and most of the time people are actually pretty cool.
Like if you're like, hey, we screwed up, sorry.
People will be like, cool, just please don't do that again.
Maybe the idea is that Apple
doesn't wanna have that conversation
because if people say don't do that again
and they're already like,
and the channels of communication are open,
then they have to commit not to do it again
and they don't want to.
Is that the issue here?
Oh boy.
I don't know.
Very frustrating.
In other news,
Ryzen 3000 series might have more than eight cores.
So I guess this wouldn't be that huge of a surprise.
I mean, a big key of the design of AMD's Zen architecture,
their Ryzen processors was the modular design
that allows them to kind of to use Intel's terminology,
just glue processors together.
So if they wanted to take Threadripper,
let's say from 16 cores last generation
to up to 32 cores this generation,
all they'd have to do is glue together some CCX modules.
So MSI has dropped a hint that AMD might be countering
Intel's rumored eight core 1151 processor
with a 12 core processor.
So mainstream computers are all of a sudden
like heavily, heavily multi-core,
or at least if these rumors are true,
that will be true in the near future.
I'm personally excited to see the next couple of years
as these trickle down to the actual mainstream
and we get to start experiencing programs
that were built from the ground up
for a very multi-threaded world.
What else is cool?
WD's shutting down one of their hard drive factories.
Now, to be clear,
it's not like this is their only factory
and it's not like hard drives are going away.
I think it's the one in Malaysia, as in TechLink.
So they're just shutting down
some of their hard drive manufacturing.
I mean, hard drives are becoming less of a consumer product
and they're becoming more of an enterprise product.
That's just the transition that's happening or prosumer.
Like we still have more hard drives in the building
than we do SSDs.
Fun fact.
Do you know that?
I don't know.
But the reason you don't know that
is that none of them are in your computer.
Oh yeah.
Your laptop runs an SSD, your desktop runs an SSD.
I don't even have a hard drive.
But we could never run anywhere near
the kind of operation that we do
if we didn't have some hard drives
because the cost to capacity ratio for hard drives
is still much better than solid state drives.
So if you have any kind of bulk data needs,
you're gonna need hard drives for a long time.
According, oh, Corning announced Gorilla Glass 6.
Yes, that's what you need Linus.
That's fun.
That's what you need.
Look, look, look why you need it.
You know what's funny is
I've actually broken very few screens in my day.
But I finally broke my iPhone 6 like two nights ago.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I was listening to something in the bathroom
and I like was grabbing a towel or something
and I kind of dropped it a bit.
And then when I went to catch it,
I ended up like pushing it with the towel or something
instead of actually catching it.
I thought you were good at catching now.
And I effectively threw it at the floor.
Like it was propelled towards the floor face down,
boom, screen cracked.
It's funny Linus, I dropped my phone so many times.
This is S8.
You've got a grip on it though.
Oh, sometimes I didn't have it.
Oh yeah, I guess you didn't.
Okay, so like not even a scratch.
I don't have any protection.
Like it's just so strong.
I don't know why.
So Gorilla Glass 6 will apparently survive
up to 15 drops from one meter height
and can be up to two times better than Gorilla Glass 5.
Now with that said, Gorilla Glass 5 wasn't known
for being the most impact resistant one or was it?
No, that one wasn't very scratch resistant.
It was impact resistant.
So it should survive drops from higher heights,
but more importantly has been engineered
to survive multiple drops.
And it should have the same amount of scratch resistance
as previous generations.
It's in production now and is available
to smartphone makers.
So it's expected to reach the market
in the next several months.
Oh, how much would I love it
if the rumored upcoming Note device had Gorilla Glass 6?
That would be super excite.
All right, I think that's pretty much it.
Everything else in here.
Walmart might launch a video streaming service.
Oh boy, more video streaming services.
They're thinking of a service priced below $8 a month
because Netflix has been steadily raising their prices,
which are now between eight and 14.
Amazon charges nine.
They may also consider a no cost ad supported service.
They already own Vudu.
I did not know that.
A service for buying and renting movies.
And Vudu launched its own ad supported streaming service,
Movies On Us, a few years ago,
which I have never heard of,
which should give you some idea
of how well Movies On Us is doing.
And that's it.
Thank you for tuning into the WAN Show.
Thank you, Dennis, for joining me on the WAN Show.
And we will see you guys again next week.
Wow, that's so fast.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
Just remember, they can hear you right now.
Can they?
They can.
I don't think so.
Yes, they can.
I'm not singing a song.
No, they can do it.
Say whatever song you want, sucka.
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