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It's not very good. Do you like Pepsi more? No it's terrible. You don't like coca-cola neither do I. Yeah it's just terrible. Cola's weird.
Although it's better than the no-name stuff Safeways house brand simply soda. I remember this one time
I drank one can of it. This is when I was like nine or ten
I drank one can of it before I left and
That stuff made me have to pee like nothing else. I've ever experienced in my life, so I'm driving down from Whistler
Yeah, we get stuck in traffic on the sea to sky highway. Sounds about right. I peed myself in the car
Not once not twice, but three times
How old are you? I was well there was nothing I could do there was a cliff on one side
There was bumper-to-bumper traffic. I'd piss out the door before I pissed myself. Hours and hours to hours and hours to get down
I was like dad. What do I do? And he's like I don't know just whatever
Hold on to the roof, lean out. It's a convertible. There's like. So stand up. So yeah
I don't. Pull the bag on each side or skis on each side. I don't know about that
You know what would love to hear your guys's feedback whether it's in the twitch chat or whether it's on Twitter
Would you rather embarrass yourself by peeing on the seat or embarrass yourself by
Standing out in front of the stopped by the way traffic
Oh, yeah
Completely stopped traffic like put blockers up like people stopped and like having like tailgate
Barbecues on their trucks with their propane because we're not moving so do you just pee there?
Which option is better for you?
Totally totally open to feedback here. I I was I was too embarrassed to get out of the car
Fortunately or unfortunately the seats were leather so at least it was going to come out
But yeah, it was it was one of those experiences you have in life
Is unfortunate that was I was I was not expecting that start to the way and show actually no no
I I I have never told you that story in fact. I haven't told that story many times
Not one of those stories that I'm particularly proud of so we've got a great show for you guys
We have special guest Lou from unbox therapy. We've got
This guy I do things this guy
We've got a bunch of great topics including the the first reviews are out of a sous's 4k monitor
Which is extremely exciting as you guys know I'm all about the 4k and leaks of dell's links or came on
Yeah
Wow leaks of dell's possible 4k monitors
Samsung's new 840 Evo SSD
Honestly from what I've seen it looks like the only SSD that actually I should give any cares about anymore. It looks unbelievable as well as
slicks expert
You know correspondent analysis of what Microsoft could do to save Windows 9 to actually appeal to
Every customer have you read it. I have read it. It's actually pretty okay. I don't disagree with you
Yeah, and that's pretty good for me and him
Oh, yeah, my watermark. Where's my watermark?
Don't worry we're gonna run the intro
We just finished doing the intro diesel is afraid that I'll forget to run his awesome intro that we hardcore love long time and
boom cue it I
Missed it you try that one more time
you
All right, so there is the intro someone says they hate it someone says best intro of all time
So we're going to go ahead and call that it's all right
50% of time all the time yeah
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So I would like to go to the Twitter boards
That's what I'm gonna call them from now on Twitter words
I want to see what people think I would pee on another person's car
Looking straight in their eyes not losing eye contact the whole time. Come on if you're like nine, I don't think so
I'd rather let it go out the window own your body man, and then Brian seems to be unrelated
You're going to make me get Instagram, aren't you?
I am going to continue using Instagram. So so that's kind of a thing and for some reason I'm not getting any tweets
so
Huh?
There you go, there's two watching from Texas love the wine show guys
What should I get to GTX?
Wow, that went fast all of a sudden to GTX 760s or 1780 also tell slick. I love his little beard
I don't think that's an intentional beard. Is it what do you mean the your beard?
It's an intentional. It's an intentional shave this part. Oh, okay. Well
I'm trying to enjoy it before I inevitably volunteer for firefighting
Take it off. You're not allowed to have a beard as a firefight. Well, it will your skin won't make contact with the mask as well
Okay. Yeah, it makes sense because you need it to be able to stick against your skin and like we figured out with the ninja
Mask, my hair pokes through things and stuff. Gotcha
Alright, so Ren asks for headphones in the 200 to 250 dollar range. You're really happy with your custom one pros, right?
Yeah, they're awesome hard
They often go on sale around that range hard to say no to that play modern games on after-party
We'll see if we can even figure out playing games on the after-party. Should I buy a 79 15-hour wait for new AMD cards?
No idea. We don't know
Each 100 is intake or exhaust on phantom for 10 mounted in the top all other fans intake go ahead and use it as an
Exhaust Ducky shine 3 up for pre-order ordering mine tomorrow
Only certain places have them for pre-order and a lot of places that have them. Oh wait, this is shine 3
Yeah, I know he should be fine. I was thinking snake a lot of them are sold out
All right going to upgrade to 4770 K. Is there any motherboard you'd recommend especially?
What is overclocking new friendly for up to 300 US dollars honestly for 300 US dollars?
You can buy pretty much whatever you want and we have a very exciting video coming soon where we are going to take two
Z70 CA up z87 boards
Would you remember which two there? It's a I don't remember the exact model name, but it's a gigabyte
ITX Wi-Fi board little board
Versus a
rampage
Maximus Maximus extreme area so we we overclock them both. We run some benchmarks. We find out actually in our
experience
What difference does it actually make?
Versus I mean there's always the features that are added by better boards
So example, for example, the Maximus six formula has much better onboard audio
Yeah, which can save you buying a sound card with that said I've always believed that buying a very high quality sound card because of the
Way audio equipment doesn't really change much over time a good quality sound card from three years ago four years ago
Something like an Ozen tech X meridian or something like that
Still a good sound card if you can find a PCI slot to put it in so I recommend
Rather than investing in a better board that has better sound you grab a great sound card and put it in whatever board you happen
To buy also looks a lot better and aesthetics matter. Yeah to that
Alright, so unbox therapy as a has tweeted that he's going to be joining us as soon
That's very very exciting. He's a really great guy. We've actually met in person in the past and
Enjoyed some pretty actually with some pretty suspects like barbecue make it yourself food that
Yeah, we were hanging out with Logan as well
so there's some pictures from that trip, but it was pretty great actually, so
Let's do our first topic of the day. Shall we sure what do you want? What do you want to hit him with first?
Why don't you talk to me? 21 sure sure. All right
So anon tech has one of the first reviews out there of the pq
321 Q ultra HD monitor
Living with a 31 and a half inch 4k desktop display
So guys I do highly recommend taking a complete sort of you know, probably only take about 15 minutes 20 minutes
Read through the review because they touch on some really interesting points about this for those of you who don't know
one of the first
4k
Desktop monitors that is actually intended to be hooked up to a computer. Yeah, what's your take on this?
I read through the review
Yeah
And the first thing that I noticed was he said the color gamut wasn't exactly where you hoped it would be it was almost
100% of sRGB if I recall correctly, but some of it was in the wrong. Yeah wrong spots
So so it's exciting because they're getting these lower size 4k resolutions. And one thing that he said is a he kind of expected
It to not be that big of a difference because it's so close to him
Yeah, but that he instantly noticed that it was so much sharper. Yes
I mean I could have told there I think Chris Chris is the reviewer over there that that did this particular write-up
And I could have told him a 4k monitor was gonna make a very very big difference, but for me to invest
$3,500. I mean I had talked about you know, maybe I want to go 4k
But the reality of it is is there's a couple reasons why I'm not ready
Would I be willing to sell my bike and drop all of that money that I get back for it on a monitor
potentially yes
Especially then mind you I'm back on my bike for this season and I'm kind of questioning how I could have ever been crazy enough
To think about that, but I was gonna say now that it's summertime. You're actually riding it. That's yeah
But the the flip side of that door that but the other hand of that discussion is yeah, it's it's expensive
Would I be willing to drop the money maybe but there's still some problems. Yeah, so the display standards
Aren't really ready yet for the most part HDMI is not going to be ready until HDMI 2.0
When we're gonna be able to drive 4k at 60 Hertz off of a single interface
When I was talking to the Asus guys that were at Vancouver
They were saying that part of the reason that they didn't have games running on the one that was there was that they needed some
driver
Hook'em hook'em, whatever word you want to use for it in order to have the two display interfaces
work correctly as
As teaming together to drive a single panel
So that to me is a big concern as well as what happens to this weird niche product that Asus sells
However, many they sell like I'm not gonna say 10, but I'm also not gonna say 10,000 in North America
Anyway, and that's the danger is what happens to weird niche products that lead the charge on some kind of a new technology
And then ultimately get abandoned look at the x25 M from Intel of all of all companies and the x25e
People invested a ton of money into those early gen SSDs. They never got trim
They never got proper
They never they never got proper garbage collection if I recall correctly
Like they just kind of got
abandoned because they didn't sell enough for it to be worth the R&D time of
Fixing it after the fact and that's a really good point because it's it's prohibitively expensive. Yes, it has its problems
Yes
What I'm excited for is when they get it smaller size because 31 and a half is you 31 30 inches is already
Like I I used 30 inch for quite a while and I got used to it
But then what happened was I recently switched back to 24 and even though it was noticeable
I don't really miss that
Huge I miss the resolution. Yeah. Yeah love to have the resolution back, but
Exactly. I'm excited for
24 inch I'm excited to buy two 24 inch 4k monitors that are affordable. What do you consider affordable?
I don't know. Would you spend 750 each?
No, cuz it's gonna be a long time before they're gonna be less than that
Yes, but I'm very happy with my current monitors true that and I'm totally fine with waiting
So it's you had really really good points. It's interesting buying in on technology like this. I think I've done it once
I bought a Nia. Okay, it wasn't it wasn't super expensive. It was fun though. Okay, so it was fundamentally broken
Yes, it was terrible, but it was fun. Okay, I enjoyed messing around with it. I got my money out of it
I was happy it got abandoned. That's fine
Okay
whereas I'm not saying that this monitor is not gonna work three years from now it will and
DisplayPort is a much better solution than you know dual HDMI in but there's all those early growing pains
I mean early 25 60 by 1600 monitors. None of them had on-screen displays because the processing chips required to
None of them had scalars. Yeah, so the because the processing required to do all this stuff was just out of reach
So you just had to drive it natively and so the on-screen display ain't great on this thing
But one thing that's cool about the about the PQ 321 Q is that the input lag isn't bad. Yeah, that's outstanding
It's about the same as the PB 278 which I have two of them incoming when they finally get in stock at the place
I've ordered them
And I've gamed on that monitor. Not bad. It's not a CRT, but it's not bad
So that I find really exciting how close we are from that perspective
but uh, yeah, I think that's it's exciting and if you have the money, that's great, but
Oof yes, it's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money
I saw actually it's not in the it's not in our WAN show doc, but I saw
Someone was running three of the sharp displays
In in iFinity off of a 7970 matrix or whatever from masseuse. So it's like 12k
display essentially
Unbelievable he had them on loan. So it's like
$10,000 worth of displays right? Um, that's the other thing that I'm really waiting for with 4k is more competition
You look what happened with TVs with Seiko just kind of marching in and being like yo guys
This doesn't cost that much not a great TV, but still in fact the reviews are terrible. Yeah
they're basically saying don't bother just go get a 1080p TV, but
But I'm waiting for someone other than freaking sharp to have something other than a 32 inch panel
I mean that's a professional geared product in the first place. Well, the the Dell leaks are pretty much just product numbers
Sure, it's in here somewhere
Yeah, as far as I could tell what the Dell leaks is that they're basically just product numbers
but one thing that I saw was I think was like
24 14 and it seemed like they all all the 4k ones ended in 14
So that got me excited because 24 inch I'm assuming the first two numbers are inch. So 24 inch
4k monitor, which is what I'm super excited for. I'm sure it's gonna be way too expensive
But that's that's the size that I'm excited for with that said those been reasonably reasonable about some stuff
So this was submitted on the Linus tech tips forum by snow comet
So it was a leak in the soundbar manual because their soundbar
I don't know if you're familiar with it is usually a cross compatible with multiple Dell monitors
So here are the leaked models the up
323
32 1 4 Q. So that is in all likelihood of 4k 32 inch using the same exo panel as
Everyone else that's another thing is when we get more panel manufacturers playing the game
Yeah, that's gonna help a lot the up 24 14 Q the u24 14 H and then u34
15 W so Q might be
4k or whatever else
Fascinating I
Still have oh, oh just an FYI guys. This IP is not the IP of the poster
I forgot again to log into a different account guys
if you if you were to watch our streams over sort of a longer period of time you notice that IPs repeat themselves a fair
Bit because they are the IPs that have to do with the security system for our forum
Not to do with the actual members of our forum. So there you go. Just throwing that out there
Let's go ahead and move on to our next topic. Shall we and video has a new quadro video card
So they just recently unveiled
Him so this was submitted by each on though the quadro case
6000 GPU so this is based on a Titan GK 110 core it has 12
gigs
Let that sink in for a moment
12 gigs of gddr5 memory and
That makes it pretty much when it comes to 3d rendering
animation
simulation applications pretty much the fastest possible
GPU that can exist right now
now
We'll talk about that a little bit. So there's a couple of really great great quotes from Pixar. So this is their
Vice president of software R&D the Kepler
Features are key to our next generation real-time lighting and geometry handling if you guys have seen monsters you yet
You may have noticed that there's a completely different look to that film compared to previous Pixar films because instead of manually
Programming lighting they're actually having the lighting
Just bounce around the way that it normally would making it much more natural looking
So we were thrilled to get an early look at the k6000 the added memory and other features allows our artists to see much
More of the final scene in real-time interactive form and allows many more artistic iterations
And then
Nissen is saying that they can view they can pull up almost an entire car in like
Realistic life life like realism to you know
Look at things and tinker with it and all that kind of stuff and then they have another one from Apache
That combined with leap motion could be really cool. Oh, yeah, I know right
computers are changing computers are changing
So yeah, Apache is energy for energy explore exploration
They're saying drilling in the wrong place can be a multi-million dollar mistake and the k6000 gives the edge to make better decisions
Wow
Yeah, it's like yeah, we needed this power otherwise, yeah all the dollars just
But why so in addition to all of that?
I would like to settle once and for all that just because a graphics card costs
$5,000 versus something like a titan that costs $1,000 and is actually built on the same architecture that has
Nothing to do with gaming performance
These cards are not
Gaming cards they use workstation grade memory, for example, because you can't afford to make a mistake
They have the full capability of their double precision calculations that they need to do
They have software features that are not enabled on desktop parts. They are binged to a higher degree of quality
They are expected to last longer run under lower thermal and run inside lower thermal envelopes
For example the quadro and diesels workstation on the desktop side or for the for the graphic side
The g4 side was a dual slot cooler
This is a single slot cooler because it's a better binned part and they were able to achieve that with that particular card
So guys, I'm so tired of seeing
Builds on a PC part picker that are like yo, I did an ultimate build I put in for quadrant. No you didn't
Because that's not for gaming. So there you go
Why don't we do a quick Twitter blitz and I'll do this blitz while you get to Lou on the line
Do you have the snowball set up? Oh, yeah. Oh
I'll figure it out here sweet
All right. Cool. Actually, I've got I've got comms. I've got comms up here is
Yeah, yeah, he's in the channel already. He's in the channel already
So we should be ready to go pretty quick after this Twitter blitz here guys
Here we go. I have an i5 3450. I want to upgrade and I'm a designer
I use Photoshop and Maya any suggestions? Um, you know what you're gonna get a bit of a performance increase
especially if you go for something like a k-series processor a 4670 K and overclock it or even a
4770 K because you will be able to take advantage of hyper threading with that said if
if your workloads perform well on an AMD pile driver chip something like an 8350 is a great value, but
Maybe you know what? I guess what I'd probably do is 3770 K for you because you don't want to change your board and
And you're going to get you're gonna be able to take advantage of hyper threading as well as
Potentially overclocking that CPU. Can you run games and multi monitor across?
Oh, okay. Yeah, unbox therapy is ready to go, but we're not quite ready for him just yet
So I'm gonna finish this blitz. There you go. You guys really need to look at the camera more rather than talking just to yourselves
Thank You Muhammad for the feedback
There's only so much we can do
Someone asks after party. Yes, there will be an after party. I made a video about the Asus 4k display
They used I've in the iFinity for merging two halves of the display Oh PC per made a video about it cool
Going live in about ten minutes come say hi. Oh, thanks for tweeting that Lu
You know what, let's go back and let's see what some of the the Apple TV got moved any air water coolers
That would be good for overclocking a 3570 K something like an h100i would be a great choice
Yeah, yeah on the air cooling side, um, I love the silver arrow in HD 14
These are all high-end solutions. You can also pick up a hyper 212 plus
Like the masses 12k set up. How will the GPU keep up with this? It'll be quite difficult
We need more GPU power. Apparently we're on the front page of twitch. That's outstanding. It's awesome
Should I get you should get neither of those things? They are both wastes of money
Just outright wastes of money
Oh, you know what?
We should do a video on like just how utterly asinine it is to buy a low-end graphics card
We'd have to get one. We'll just buy it. They only cost like $20. So who cares really? I've never even looked
I know no, I've actually never looked at the price of like like the price to performance
Ratio of these cards just broken. It's just horrible
Don't even bother slick. Have you played Skyrim legendary edition? Yep, and have you gotten into closed beta?
even if I was
That would be under NDA even if I was I farted on the laptop a little bit smoke came out of it
Okay. All right
So let's go ahead and have Lou join us then at this point because apparently things have gotten a little bit silly
so I'm gonna go ahead and
Add a media file where we have. Oh
Diesel didn't put it in the this folder, but it's okay because I got this I got this I got this
BAM there's a portrait. There's the guy who will be joining us right about
Now
Hey Lou, how are you? He will be connected in a second. He'll be connected in a second. Yep. Oh
All right, he's got to turn on his mic so Lou apologizes in advance for his microphone, it's apparently not that great
I haven't heard it yet, but it's it's not terrible
Lou you're gonna want to mute the stream over there
How about now? How about now?
You are here
All right, there we go
So
Jumping down. Sorry. Hello. Hello. Hello. You are live
Yeah, we can turn him up a little bit I think
All right, so you are our very second special guest and
We are extremely excited to have you join us. Do you want to take just a brief moment and
Sort of introduce yourself to the audience
You can't hear us apparently, okay. Okay. Well in that case I'll say a little bit about
What oh?
Hold on. I wonder if it's our fault still pretty quiet. I can't hear anything
And it shows if it shows a light there
Yeah, I think our audience can hear you
Okay
Who's gonna try reconnecting so I'm gonna give you guys a little bit of a brief history of
Unboxed therapy. So unboxed therapy is a channel that as you may or may not have deduced at this point is
centered around the concept of unboxing as a way to
Clearly demonstrate a product and to really give people that hands-on experience
Loud and clear now nothing I could just see the chat
Mm-hmm
Okay, well here we go
Wait, what's that? This is also your
Okay, so if you close that one, is it possible that'll address it. I guess it's possible. It shouldn't really but
You hear me
Oh boy
Hmm
Well, we're having one of those moments here guys
We are gonna try now I just checked that we did test this before the show so
Worked a hundred percent correctly. I
Don't think I don't think it's my end only because I didn't change anything. I literally let this thing sit
prior to
The stream and I was talking earlier. We did the test run. All right, I think I don't know why I can't
Okay, we're gonna relaunch comms and we'll be back in just a moment tight and leave it the way it is
Okay, there we go, let's try this one more time
So I've had a bit of a monkey wrench thrown in my whole introduction of Lou
Monkey wrenches
It's hard to do a topic in the meantime if we're trying to get audio running here
That is a good point, although I can do a other random topic sure go for it
Give me one quick second to jump on to something here
That was a community item so we have to find something that isn't because I can't link to the screen that's gonna be interesting
There's a Kickstarter project that got destroyed
Basically, I wanted to talk about this with Lou, okay
Oh
Wow
Yeah, a little bit of background. I I guess I think I started by accident
I just wanted to make the same kind of videos. I guess that always is my too quiet
Who's quiet
Oh my god
I can hear you guys. I can hear you guys perfectly, but I don't think anybody can hear anyone else
Oh boy, okay, can the stream hear us now?
Everyone said they can just hear Lou and
Apparently Lou broke the the entire internet
So hold on a second. Let's go ahead and try try something here
Oh boy
You gotta tell him
Oh
It's windows
Oh my god, hey, okay. This doesn't work now. Are we good? No, I don't think so. Oh, yes
Boom it was windows blaming me. Well could have been your fault. No as easily as anything else
All
Right, so Lou
Yeah, let's about unbox therapy. Tell us how you got started on this stuff and hopefully they can actually hear you this time, right?
I see some comments saying Lou is fine. So I guess they can hear me. We're good. What's up, everybody?
Thank you for having me on the show today. First of all, I want to get that out of the way and
Yeah to answer your question. I've been doing this for about two and a half years, I think and
In the beginning it was pretty it was amateur hour and we've sort of slowly
improved the operation
And and added a little bit of production value and had a couple of different people working on it and I guess our approach
Cinematic value to the process of making tech videos or making product based videos
So
When did you feel like it really?
Exploded for you
I mean
I know that already because I've been keeping a very close eye on you since you had around 1 10th the number of
Subscribers you have now by the way
Congratulations, you broke 500,000 I believe today
Yeah, I think yeah either today or yesterday
Yeah, pretty crazy. It's a lot of people but
Yeah, I think for me it probably picked up somewhere
I want to say like maybe a year and a half in or something like that where I realized that this was a real thing
that people were doing professionally and
I guess I started to put a different level of focus on to it and to be honest with you
Like I mean, I love doing it at this point in time
I really couldn't imagine, you know having a regular day job or something like that. This is
It really I mean it gets cliche because a lot of people say it but it's it's one of the best things to do as
You know, I
really do
Ability to try things and to experiment and to start to have some fun with it now
I wanted to talk to you about this before we really dive into some of our regular WAN show topics
I get asked this all the time and I have my sort of standard response that I usually say
But people ask me how do I get started on this?
Right
Yeah, I know it's a
You can have it you could have an inbox full of those
questions on a daily basis and I was on a channel broadcast yesterday and we sort of covered a similar topic because
You know, honestly when I started out
I didn't I never I don't think I reached out to anyone with that particular question and part of that had to do like I
Guess part of that had to do with me
Making some assumptions maybe some educated assumptions that that is having having success in this particular arena being such a new one
Some ingenuity and some trial and error and all of those things and so when people ask me for a set of guidelines
I mean, there are way too many variables at play for me to give you a playbook on how to get
Viewers on YouTube or how to have success or how to add subscribers
Because at the end of the day you're making a piece of entertainment and what people find
Entertaining what people are drawn towards is relatively subjective
How do you know before getting into it whether or not you're entertaining or whether or not people give a shit about what you're saying?
I mean you just don't know until you try
Absolutely, I think that's a very good point and the the the funny thing about that is that was one of the things that made
Me notice you and what you were doing because up until then as far as tech unboxings went there was only
Maybe a handful of guys who were my size or bigger or even close and
What I noticed about the approach that you had was it was completely different from what anyone else was doing
Where you were taking unboxing and you were putting your own spin on it
And I think a lot of people I mean a lot of people send me their gameplay videos or their let's plays
Hey Linus, can you check this out and give me your feedback and I kind of look at it and I go well
What have you done that's different and I think that might be the solution
Right. I mean, it's never it's never a bad idea to innovate
You know, you can't go the other way where you try so hard to do something unusual and it could be terrible, too
so I mean, I mean if it really requires some attention to detail and some attention to
The reaction of your viewers. I mean you do have to listen you need to pay attention
If you can't answer every single comment or engage with every single user
you can at least read through some stuff and it's sort of get an idea of what's working and what isn't working and
And that really helps you to edit yourself because that's what that's one of the most difficult things to do
in this business when you're working in relatively small companies or even by yourself in the beginning is
How do you how do you determine what to leave in and what to take out?
It's very difficult when when it's only yourself working on it
Absolutely, and you know what?
I think this leads into one of our discussion topics really well small interaction versus big interaction
So things like Twitter vine Instagram versus Facebook Google Plus
YouTube how do you how do you feel that these things complement each other or compete with each other?
you know
this is a
This is a pretty interesting topic to be like I I have a pretty significant level of interest at least I think so in
social media and how it all
effects my business
I mean
I guess the same could be said for a lot of other businesses but mine in particular
I think I think you could you can really notice a huge increase in your traction if you can get a grip and get
a handle on social media
especially with when we get into another topic that we're gonna talk about today regarding the sub boxes on YouTube, but
But before we get there it's like yeah
Facebook I recently I recently switched my pit my regular human profile to
one of what they call a brand page and
After doing that. I noticed a couple of things that occurred. First of all, I was reaching fewer people but
as a side effect of that
it meant that some things were modified in my account where I wasn't getting the same number of personal interactions in my inbox because
for somebody who gets a lot of
Communication in inbox whether it be on YouTube or Facebook is an incredibly terrible place to communicate
Because horrible because what ends up happening is that you end up
Communicating with one individual with your answer. Nothing is public and as a result you end up answering the same thing a hundred different times and
When you're when you're when you become
You know a glorified
Administration person you can't be making videos. It's impossible to handle both
So I much prefer Twitter from that standpoint because the conversations are generally public and mostly public and they're short
And so short when you have social interaction on a format like Twitter
essentially the the comments become or the the at messages become like headlines like in a newspaper and when you scan a
Newspaper you can easily sort through what is the relevant information? What do I need to get back to you can triage the news?
Essentially in your and the communication that your audience has with you becomes news
Versus this little thing off in private somewhere in an inbox that
That is very difficult to triage very difficult to quickly look at an inbox and say this is important
This is not important. And and where can I start to work? I mean, I basically avoid inboxes at all costs now
Twitter Twitter is probably your best chance to get in touch with me and to get a response because at least I know if I
Respond to you other people can then go look at that response if they have the same question
Absolutely, and I mean, I think one of the strengths of Twitter leading into our next discussion topic
Which is why is the YouTube subscription feed always broken?
Yeah, I have heard I have heard some people some other youtubers that I communicate with that have had contact with Google themselves
And I have heard that it is intentionally broken
And the theory behind that is similar to what's happening on Facebook right now
Which is that people are inundated with content that as the power users are subscribed to so many channels that
It becomes difficult for YouTube to figure out what is that?
They actually want to watch and that's why I think they move to that activity feed or what to watch next on mobile devices
I think they think better than they think they know better than you do as far as what you want to watch and so
They can use
Possibly they could be using a previous viewership data to decide whether or not a subscription you have
Is something that you watch every single time and whether or not to feed that back into the sub box or to record put up
some recommended video there or to
You know to leave it out
I think this is especially a problem when you produce a ton of content especially like you guys do
If you're putting up two three four videos in one day
It seems to me that the likelihood that that video is going to get lost and not reach the boxes becomes that much more likely
Absolutely. This is very true. And this is one of the reasons for the longest time
I completely ignored Twitter Facebook and all of that stuff because partly because it didn't really matter to me because I was working at a
Retailer I had my day job
YouTube was a side project for me, but also partly because
Or not that well, that's why I ignored it
Right, and then the reason I started paying attention to it was because of
Needing to own the audience in a in a way that goes beyond
You know Google's divine
Will how they've decided that you should be allowed to interact
I mean, there's so many things on YouTube that you look at that are look like they're broken on purpose things
Subscription feed things like the inbox. This is the creator of Gmail and the conversation thread
Concept. Yep. YouTube has the worst inbox in the world
It's true. Yeah, I don't I mean it really doesn't look like
Their intention is for people to enjoy using the the inbox the inbox right now
I mean they could they could completely get rid of the inbox and I'd be fine with it
absolutely
Exactly the same looking at like they don't want you to have access directly to your audience
They want to control that so things like how you used to be able to back in the day
This is maybe before your time, but you used to be able to go through a list of every single one of your subscribers
That's true. Yeah. Yeah, I recall such a thing gone. Yeah, they don't want you to know as I know
Sorry, I don't go one thing that annoys me is there's channels that I subscribe to this actually happened to me a few days ago
I briefly mentioned it to you those channels that I subscribe to like a year or two ago
Because I watched their stuff and enjoyed it and then watched a random video by them recently went. Oh, that's really cool
I should subscribe to these guys realize I was already subscribed to them and went that's interesting
I check YouTube almost every day and I've never seen one of their videos in my subscription feed, right?
Which is nuts because yeah, I think I think I don't think you're the only one who's had it had an experience like that
I get messages on Twitter
Fairly regularly that that things aren't reaching the sub box and you end up figuring out that
The ones who end up being that percentage that watch every single video there. There's there your super fans
They're the ones who actually go out of their way to like visit the channel to verify
That they've seen everything and and what what's worked out on the network in terms of the number of fans that fit into that category
Is about like 10% you know
Which is a which is pretty sad when you think about it because you would assume that clicking a subscription button is a fairly
Committal kind of thing. It's like, you know, you're you're saying that you want to see more content
So the idea that only 10% of people after the fact actually follow through and that seems pretty hard to believe
I think for me if I look at the analytics numbers because we can see where views come from
I think when I look at it on the videos that do really well where it's a hot topic something like the razor blade
14 that we on that we launched a couple of days ago. Yeah, I'll get a probably around
40,000 views from subscribers, which is exactly right there in that 10% of my total subscriber number
Which is obviously a fabrication
Well, I mean if you've got for that four hundred thousand users that share
You know the same kind of opinion and taste when it comes to content and entertainment
Subject matter etc
You would assume that more than 10% would be interested in a razor blade
Unboxing like that is like right in line with the reason they subscribe. So I agree with you
There seems to be something else at play
Let's just hope it doesn't get to a point where we have to start paying to reach people like on Facebook
Well what it started to feel like to me because I'm looking because one of the one of the metrics I remember talking to you
About this we ended up talking on the phone for like four hours or something stupid like that
This is back when I first met Lou and I think the the conversation then was the metric that I look at for how strong
A channel is is the new subscriber growth rate?
How many new people click that button every single day, right? And I've been looking at the numbers and I go okay every day a
Thousand new people click the button for both you and me sort of that 800 to a thousand range
Right, is it that when I release a video the day after that thousand people click maybe ten of them or a hundred of them
Actually, look at it
Yeah, it is I mean it's it's it's pretty complicated I don't know I assume that there's some
elaborate kind of
Algorithm there that figures out how they're going to distribute this content
I know they're obsessed right now with
Viewer viewing sessions more so than they are with few counts in general and they may think that they can
recommend content to users that might increase their section session length and
And then that's more important to their endgame than it is for the user to get what they think they want
I think Google much like in a bunch of their other products thinks that they know what we want more than we do
That's
Like I can understand that from a certain degree but not necessarily because there's certain types of content like vice
I like watching vice but I'll sit down and watch a whole thing of vice
But I don't want my entire subscription box to be vice
Videos I'll skip through it to see what I want
I'll enjoy seeing more of those than the vice videos, but it'll give me less because I'm skipping through it, right?
Whereas I might watch one or two vice videos, but I watch the whole thing. So my whole feed is always just fights
Yep. Yeah, I mean I see. Yeah, I mean, I think like the Twitter model
Should should should work just as well here
I mean, I don't click on every link that somebody posts, but it doesn't mean that I don't want to see their tweets
And if I didn't want to see it, well the unsubscribe or the unfollow buttons right there. Yeah. Yep 100%
I mean it there are there are a million ways to do this that are user-driven
But Google finds automated systems to be much more interesting
So, how do you feel as a content creator do you feel like you need to divest from the YouTube platform?
I
Don't think so. I mean, I think my goals have sort of changed as things as things have gone along
You know, I think
In in the beginning I thought Adsense was the be all and end all like it would it would be sort of what we all
relied upon but
Going forward. I realized that that real relationships meeting people
Creating connections in the entertainment business and elsewhere
have the potential to bring real value to what you're doing and to to
you know potentially give you access to resources that you never even realized you wanted and and
You know for me that means getting super creative like I guess I've always been a creative person
But I never imagined that at any point I'd be sitting around trying to come up with the next idea for some some new video
but I think that YouTube for me rather than be
You know my boss like I originally looked at it now. It's just
It's an outlet. It happens to be the platform the player essentially for what I'm doing
But I think that there are probably many different ways to create businesses around the idea of delivering video content online
That maybe aren't necessarily YouTube. I mean, I know a lot of
You
The first thing they'll do when you sign with them is they will make sure that your content is places other than YouTube
I mean, they'll get it on daily motion and they'll get it on
Blip blip TV. I mean they'll put anywhere they can put it
they will put it and
if the networks continue to grow and continue to gather as much steam and and be as powerful as they are and as they
will be
I could totally imagine them becoming their own conglomerate
I mean the the power that exists in networks now is is unbelievable
I never would have imagined that that that was what was going to happen here and it surprises me that YouTube let it happen
Yeah, yeah, I know it I mean they're they're they're still doing it. They're still letting networks sprout up from everywhere again
I think Google is one of those companies that it's very
A
Long game, you know, it's like it's like a chess match. I haven't there their objective might be ten steps down the road
You never really know why they make the decisions they make and at first they might they look really
Strange and and like they won't work
But I mean some of these some of those networks have been sold recently revision 3 sold the discovery
Awesome awesomeness TV sold the dreamworks and we're talking deals in the tens of millions of dollars
Maybe Google's goal in the short term is to bring some traditional Hollywood money
Into the productions that are occurring on YouTube and maybe they were prepared to do that at a relatively large cost
We've actually covered that before
Channels being backed by like you just said traditional Hollywood money and it seems like it's gonna happen
another topic that we have in here is
The
Possible discussion is is this why new media has a chance to swoop in and eat traditional medias lunch?
Yes, I'd like to I'd like to play this for the audience. This is uh, this is kind of hilarious
So hold on. I'm just gonna go ahead and full screen this and we're gonna switch to my laptop here. Oh
Oh
Yay touchscreens
This Thursday on the season premiere of Long Island landscapers, let's do flamingos this one flamingos elegant bird
This is Long Island, not Florida. We're definitely unknowns this time. The boys are going over the hedge
If we don't finish this job, we're not getting paid
And their bad attitude
So back to what I was saying that
This is why we both share view that big Hollywood money might be coming into YouTube because we need to get away from this
Trash and more towards stuff that's being produced for platforms like YouTube. And this is what allowed new media to come and
Basically start eating their lunch
but now is this is this it then is the answer somewhere in the middle where obviously like
Obviously shows like Breaking Bad are gonna exist
You need high production values people have an appetite for high production values
But they've also demonstrated they have an appetite for this like weird indie content
That's like guys opening boxes or you know guys running around in sort of you know
Box armor hitting each other or whatever else it happens to be was the answer somewhere in the middle where we take that new media
creativity and that old media
Money and is that what YouTube will be in five years sure or even just a mix
What do you think yeah, yeah, I mean
I think I think it's you're probably right. It'll probably end up somewhere in the middle
I think what will end up happening is guys like us regular dudes
Who never intended to be where we are will likely get access to resources that we never?
Expected and what the outcome of that is it will be interesting to see I don't think we're that you or I is
Necessarily going to go out even with a budget and necessarily make Breaking Bad, but we might do things
We
Could just start a meth lab
People enjoy and didn't didn't really know that they were we're going to enjoy
I mean, I really think that the internet as a whole from a media delivery
Perspective has has really changed
pop culture in a big way like I don't know in the future how easy it's gonna be to market something as as
Popular to everyone when we've all become so
Sophisticated in our own specific niches when we've decided like I mean you guys are on here on your channel and on this stream
Etc talking about incredibly sophisticated things in a particular subject matter
That never could have happened on traditional media because you needed to find a message that was suitable
for millions of people that you could you know cheaply broadcast on a dumb pipe to
Millions of people all at once since that's not the case anymore. I think everything's gonna get more interesting
I think money in people's hands like you and I could produce some stuff that we never even knew we wanted I
Think a great example is something like video game high school to where it was
Crowdfunded and actually I want to transition into some of our crowdfunding topics coming very soon
So it was crowdfunded and it is exactly what we're talking about where that's the creativity of these and I'm not taking anything away from
Freddy Wong but relatively amateur folks they had some talent
Yeah, but let's face it. Come on. They're scripting is terrible. The acting is terrible
Right, it's really good for the platform
It's on yes, and it's really good for what they're dealing
but if they took the
Creativity the mind that is Freddy Wong and they gave him the money and the actors and the resources
Maybe he's the kind of guy who can take that and really find that middle ground and maybe video game high school season six or whatever
His next major project is is that thing?
Pretty one is huge. Yeah, I mean that's an important thing to remember
I think is that you know
The the more opportunities that a content creator has to sort of hone their craft the better the stuff becomes if you look at our
Early videos are likely terrible. I mean, I'll speak for myself. I'm not gonna speak for you. Oh minor worse than yours
So, you know and and as time goes on and as you produce more content that changes and I think it I think of course
It'll be exactly the same for people like him that are working with larger budgets
So let's talk crowdfunding for a little bit
We actually have a few things on the on the stream or wait
No, I want to hear what you think of chromecast first your hands on with one, right?
Yep
I've been playing with the chromecast
Since yesterday I first tested it out and then we've been messing around with it a little bit today as well
I mean, it's 35 bucks. It's crazy. Like I I
Remember as a kid sitting around thinking it would be amazing to broadcast
wirelessly what's on my computer onto my flat panel onto my bigger TV and
the fact that we can do that now in HD with a device that that is like the size of a USB key is
Is pretty damn impressive and so?
From a technical standpoint, it works exactly as they say it's gonna work
I mean, are you can brought you broadcast a tab from your Chrome browser you install a
Little extension it takes a couple of seconds finds it automatically and then
In you in the YouTube app on your mobile device as well
You'll see a chromecast button and you can just immediately
Move anything you're watching from the couch up onto the up onto the flat panel
And what I said in my video was the reason that this is so interesting to me is because there's so far the YouTube experience
From the couch is terrible like on every device
You know, whether it's a game console or the Apple TV or whatever like
Searching for a video trying to have that certain sort of be a video DJ with a bunch of people sitting around has been a bad
experience and this really
Changes that in a really big way and it does so at a price point that a lot of people are gonna be interested in
Now I've been saying this since I saw the first smart TV smart TV was dead on arrival
Yeah, it was it never stood a chance
We already had things like Patriot box-office and things like the Asus O player
Wd live or my TV live or whatever they called that thing. We already had these things which were already better than
The smart TV implementations that we have now all these years later and now Google's coming along and saying
$35 don't worry about that smart TV. It's over
Yeah, no, no, I completely agree
I mean
It's amazing you walk into a Best Buy or future shop or whatever and you go through the TV aisle and they want to charge
$1,000 for for smart features or at least 500 and I
Mean now they're gonna have a little device sitting on the shelf next to it and any
Sales guy with a head on his shoulders is gonna say listen get the dumbest panel you can and plug this little
HDMI device in and you're gonna be better off
Because and I love how it's Google so
Anyone could have released this and if it worked this well been like 200 bucks 250 bucks
Yeah, and no one would have blinked an eye. It would have been like that's a little bit expensive, but it's awesome
So everyone should buy it
35 bucks. This is another example of they're thinking 10 steps ahead and like
Completely brazon curse
Yeah, it's definitely a loss leader for the first bunch of sales
They were including three months of Netflix, which brought the actual which brought the actual cost of the device to $11
They I think they took that. Oh, yeah. No, no, they they they they sold out of that particular promo, but going into it
I mean, this is a classic
Google situation where they completely either either they do it intentionally or they underestimate the demand for their products and it becomes a shit show
So
It's one or the it's what it's one or the other I'm not sure I mean I haven't figured it out yet
I think I think that they suck at retail to be honest with you
Please make everything free and just figure out how to do
Exactly. Well, if the funny thing was like a bunch of people a bunch of people rushed to order it on the Google Play Store
right and
They they had a five-day lead time from those purchases and then 45 minutes later Amazon launched and it was available for next day delivery
And so all these like enthusiasts who were sitting around waiting to click their mouse button on the Google Play Store got screwed and guys
Like me ended up with it the next day
I
Missed out on it entirely. So I've found someone on Twitter who follows me who ordered to right away
So I'm gonna buy one of them off him and hopefully I'll get to play with it pretty soon. Yeah, you won't regret it
I mean, it's it's a it's a stupid easy device to take with you. I can see carrying this thing
Into boardrooms into hotel rooms. Yep. It's it's crazy. It's it's it's really convenient
So crowdfunding I wanted to talk about a couple of things. So number one is ah
Yes, have you heard about the crowdfunded Ubuntu Android phone
It is it actually funded though. Not yet. Yeah, they're working on it, but they want any enormous amount
They want an enormous amount of money though
They want to break every record from every crown proud funding project ever. They want
32 million by August 21st
Yeah
I just I honestly I don't I don't know
I know I'm probably gonna catch heat for this especially from your audience, but do it
I mean
That what makes great phones what makes great consumer devices is mass appeal is scale
You know when they when when you have enough users that are out there in the public using them
It means you're gonna have a better ecosystem of developers working on those devices
I just don't see the value proposition of having this this device
You know in the far corner of the room that you intend other people have
I
Don't see how that can be all that compelling. This is not the only phone they're releasing though
This is just the super premium
What I'm saying is what I'm saying is are they launching a legitimate competitor to what's already out there or is this is this something?
That's going to be for enthusiasts and it's a very good question because you look at something like blackberry 10
It was reviewed reasonably. Well, in fact you had said you felt that there was a place for it slick
In the market
however
When's the last time you saw a z10 or a q10 in someone's hand and it's not a matter of is it a good platform
Because I think we can all agree that it's good
But the problem is will you tear my Android device away from me or someone else's iOS device away from them with this
One thing that I have to input on this is blackberry had side loading apps
This runs an entire Android operating system and it's switching as fast as far as I've heard even an Android phone though, okay
Like a poorly supported Android device, there will be apps all over the Play Store that don't work right with it
This is a thing that exists. Now. Never mind if you plan to make only what do they plan to make 40,000 of them?
I think that was it. I
Don't know that sounds about right
40,000 units is the planned run and they will cost around eight hundred and something dollars each
The first few that got in got them for six hundred. Yeah, it's eight hundred and thirty dollars now
I one of the other things that seems a little bit crazy to me is what they're committing right now
They're committing. I believe it was a sapphire screen
Dual 4g so it's like a world 4g phone. They're committing a hundred and twenty eight gigs of storage. They're committing an
Undisclosed processor four and a half inch screen all these things except the ship date is going to be
I believe it was April
2014
Yeah, I mean I I tend to think like I
Personally think this thing's gonna be a disaster myself. I if it does end up reaching it
I I just don't think that a crowd-sourced phone is what we all need right now
I there have been crappy enough crowd-sourced products that have come out that aren't that aren't nearly as
That aren't nearly as enthusiastic as trying to develop a phone using crowd money
I mean, that's just an incredibly hard thing to do one thing. Is it it is canonical?
So they're a company that's been around for an incredibly large period of time
Hardware their software already works and they're getting other people to do the hardware look at even someone like Samsung
They are now the world's most profitable
Consumer electronics company above Apple you look at your first iteration of anything
It's terrible their first TVs terrible their first optical drives terrible their first phones terrible their first
Friggin the compliances were terrible all terrible
this is going to be Canonical's first attempt at a super premium high-end phone and
They're only they're only spending a maximum of 32 million dollars on
Something that I can tell you right now
Samsung is spending a lot more than that an order of magnitude or two more than that
Yeah
Well, Samsung spends more money on marketing than the market cap for HTC and Motorola combined any any of that?
Oh you you could add up all the Android competitors and Samsung spends more on marketing alone than their net value
So I mean it's this is this is there's a terrible situation out there right now for Android
Phone makers who aren't Samsung in general let alone a new player who wants to come along and compete in the space
HTC they're flat. I mean, they're they're barely making any money and they make beautiful hardware
What another I'm gonna I'm just
Another thing is this again is not their only phone
Yes
So they are pulling in this is funding to make sure that they can sell enough of them
Because if they can't sell enough of them, they're not gonna bother release it
This isn't the only funding that's going into this phone. They're pulling in funding from other parts of their company
They're a massive company and they always do this one thing that this phone is doing is closing in ecosystems
So you can plug it in and it will dock and turn it into a whole
Ubuntu OS as you plug it into your computer, so they want to bring together an ecosystem
They want to do this with all their phones and they're gonna pull in funding from all over the place
To help this because if you watch the video they want this to be their supercar
Basically so that they can trickle down and then eventually release a phone like this
Which is no longer a trickle down and then have another one of these
So is the market ready for this yet? Because CES two three years ago. I was already watching
Superphones being plugged into laptop shells that turned them into Android OS's on a not a laptop shell though
Directly into a monitor plug it into whatever you want. Are we ready yet for a phone?
That is more than a phone and will people care
I don't know if people will care but it doesn't matter what I'm trying to say that they're getting funding from other parts of their
Company. Well, not much is true because they're trying to close up an ecosystem
But my point with Samsung was that it doesn't matter how much funding they're pulling from whatever part of their company because they're not as
Big as Samsung and Samsung's first attempt at anything usually sucks. Yeah, so I'm saying it might suck
Unless they're better than Samsung at hardware. I
Don't know man. I'm pretty sure I remember where I read this
But I'm pretty sure they're pulling in other influences for the hardware. There's no doubt
I mean that this is a super ambitious thing and I don't you know, I don't mind
It doesn't bother me. Like I think anybody out there trying to
Innovate and create something, you know is a is a positive thing. It's gonna push the entire the entire
Market forward but at the same time if I was a betting man, like if you were asking me to invest in it
I mean, that's a different that's a completely different story. I didn't yeah
There's no way I'm then investing in a piece of hardware that comes out nine months from I didn't I'm
I'm excited for it. I want to see where it's going
I did not buy it and I looked at it fast enough that I could have bought it at the cheapest bracket and I didn't
So to throw that into the pie, I'm excited for the next time they do this in the video
They said that they if this works they want to do it annually almost
Okay, so if they do with this next year and it's super successful this year, then maybe I will because that would be awesome
But I want to see it happen first
So moving on to our next crowd sourcing topic
What happens when these things fail?
So the doom that came to Atlantic City by the forking path Co and this is not an easy update to write the short version
The project is over. The game is cancelled and there's a bunch of angry comments from backers
So these are backers only the problem is we weren't kept in the loop. We've been giving false information
The problem is that you know, why did we pay for him to move? Why did we pay for these things?
Why was there this ambitious goal with you know, like a thirty five thousand dollar or what?
Why was there this ambitious project that had a thirty five thousand dollar goal that clearly isn't enough money to do anything and
You know, maybe this isn't even the worst case scenario
I mean Lou you were talking about Kickstarter or Indiegogo or crowdfunded projects that maybe they actually make it to market
But they totally suck. How much faith are you putting into this stuff?
I mean
For me, I don't put very much
You know, there's there's I think that a lot of the products that have come out of it have proven to be
Less than what people expected and in the case of probably the largest product to date which was the the the watch the pebble watch
They they even did something strange which was move units to Best Buy prior to fulfilling the people who paid in advance
There there are no rules, you know when you send your money
you're not guaranteed anything and you're essentially enabling a group of people who you don't know to go out and decide how they want to
Spend that and when they want to deliver something back to you for that it for that investment
I mean, I think that I think crowdfunding could really go to the next level when
You actually can get it you can actually invest in a company you can actually get a piece of the action like that
That to me gets a lot more interesting
You know when when you can say I really believe in this to the point where I want to invest in it anywhere else
In the real world when a person makes an investment in a company, they expect something back in terms of equity
You don't just expect to be pre-ordering something
It's amazing how just a little bit of hype can drive people to pay for something that doesn't exist and may never exist
And that's exactly it is right now. I've seen good ideas
Crowdfunded that didn't make it because they did not have a slick video or they didn't have a great presentation or the models
Showcasing the prototype were ugly or whatever other
Infinite number of reasons that a good idea can fail and I've seen stupid ideas that are meeting their targets
even though like, you know, I
Sort of I sort of hate to call these guys out, but it's a it's a phone case that has
earbuds that like retract into it and I'm just like
It beat its target and I'm looking at this going like are you friggin serious?
Like it's gonna be the crappiest earbuds in the world
We already know this because they don't know the bloody thing about earbuds
it's going to be a cell phone case which shouldn't be worth more than about four dollars and
They I think they wanted 30 bucks or 40 bucks for it or something stupid like that
Yeah, I think I think a lot
I think a lot of people fall in love with with a concept and when you when your product becomes a message and not an
Actual physical product when you boil a product down just to it's just to its advertising components
You realize that that's actually where the magic is like when yes
When a company tries to convince you to buy buy something general generally speaking
You know leading up to that actual purchase is when you're the most excited once you've actually got it that excitement starts to you know
You know sort of yeah, it's a plateaus or hopefully if you like the product it plateaus
It might even go down if it's not what you expected, but that's what they're doing
They're playing off that initial moment when you think wow, that would be cool and they're selling you something within that moment
So it's sort of it's almost in a way like some new kind of advertising platform
Where where they're capitalizing at the point of advertisement instead of waiting for the production to take place
It's the Simpsons monorail episode all over again. No YouTube slammed it
I'm gonna again come from the other side at the same time the whole thing about Kickstarter if you read anything up about it
And Indiegogo the customer is supposed to read
The article a lot of times they don't a lot of things have been released where they did not do the research
That's the customers fault and even though it's failed that sucks. You're taking a gamble with your money
You're playing a game with your money. You're going. Okay, this looks interesting
I want it and I want to keep formed on it and I want updates on it
I want to know everything that's going on about it
So you put money down for a segment of something so you might get something back
You might get information only you might get your name in the game
You might get your face in the game. You might get whatever say it's a game
It could be something else
You need to look into it and make sure read up on the people read up on the product make sure it's gonna work
a lot of the times the only things I
Backed quite a few things on Kickstarter a lot of the things I will only back them if they're mostly produced already
I don't want to back something if the guy's like, yeah, I have a CAD model of it and like it might work
That's pretty cool. I'm gonna back something when he's like, yeah, this is my prototype. It works. Look boom. Boom
It's awesome. I just need to produce a bunch of them
I need money to get into manufacturing that makes a lot more sense for me when he goes I've talked to these people
They've said that they can actually manufacture this many units at this price. I need this much money to make it happen
That's something I'm gonna back right. I'm not gonna back to one thing so far star citizen. That was it
Yeah, it was only because Chris Roberts has a longtime
Tradition of success and he had a great idea and concept and he had enough footage enough in-game
Gameplay that he was releasing and showing that I was confident that it was worth dropping my money on big name
Research done by the purchaser all that kind of stuff. So Kickstarter is not bad. Yeah, just don't use it for no no
No, I want to be clear too. It might come off like I'm bashing it. I absolutely love the idea of it
I think the idea of crowdfunding is fantastic
But I think that there's the potential here that if enough people get screwed
It can be that sort of one rotten apple situation where it can spoil the public perception about the entire platform
So it's important that they make it very clear how you're supposed to engage with it as an end-user because if there's enough press
About bad things occurring then some things like this might not have the same traction in the future
and I don't want to see that happen because I like the idea of
A producer being able to go and reach directly to the audience without nearly as many middlemen as were traditionally required
Okay, tell me something as a business owner
So I really liked your your thought about somewhere in between private investment and going IPO
Full-blown what about a crowd?
Investment that's not an investment in the product because that's another one of the things I agree with you a hundred percent. That's absolutely ridiculous
I'm not giving my money up front so that I can have a spot in line. That's that's absurd
I mean, it's illegal in the USA to charge actually this is kind of funny
It's illegal in the USA to charge someone's credit card for a backorder before you ship it. That's right
But yet, but and can they not do a pre-authorization on it? Yes, they can do a pre-authorization
But if I'm giving you my money
I want something besides a spot in line and is that potentially the future of this where if unboxed therapy?
You know LLC or Linus Media Group Inc decides to get investment we could crowdfund
investment in terms of an actual ownership in the company
That that is currently illegal in the United States
I don't I don't know about Canada
But there is talk that eventually things might might end up going in that direction
But the truck the only the trouble I have there is that it's kind of like an amplification of the problems
We already talked about where if the end-user doesn't do their research and understand what they're getting involved in
It could bring a lot of heat onto the entire platform and and it could it could end up being fairly destructive
So it would need you would need to have some kind of authentication system to determine if people were a good fit
I think that the the producer would have to look at each person's
submission and determine whether or not they wanted to work with that person and accept even if even if it's a tiny little stake you
Would have to look at it and do some quick analysis to determine whether or not you wanted to accept that
bid and
That's actually a very good point because that's one of the reasons that Linus Media Group Inc doesn't have any private investors
We had offers we had people who wanted to throw some funding at us at the beginning
in order for to have a stake in the company and
For me it wasn't even a matter of do I mind giving up a stake?
Because it's other than it being a phenomenal amount of paperwork, it's not really the end of the world
I still get to pay myself a salary. So, you know, I'll be fine
and it wasn't necessarily a matter of
Basically the problem was do I want to work with this person and if you did a crowdfunded type of initiative like this
You're working with so many people. Yeah, you have to answer to so many people. Yeah
Yeah, listen, I did one before and it was not the most fun experience ever
Yeah, your ultimate ultimate gaming build. Yeah, it's
It's it's it's a it's a really strange way to interact with people. You've never met
You know, that's that's the bottom line it's like a
You know ultimately people I mean, I'm sure you've the whole keyboard warrior thing
When people have anonymity online and they're not a face and they're not a person that has to answer
You know with a face attached to it all of a sudden what they're saying and how they're saying it changes drastically
Absolutely, it's a really good point
okay, I think I had one more topic that I really wanted to discuss with Lou here before we
Before we said thank you very much for for joining us. I'm just trying to see if I can find it here
Oh, yeah the plastic iPhone, so I'm gonna go ahead
I'm gonna fire this up and I'm going to just let the viewers check out the video a little bit here
Sure, it's already sure
So guys this is all considered speculation at this point and oh there's a pizza ad I
used to build this big pizza
Then dough I worked at a pizza shop. Good job
Hey guys, Mike here the Detroit board with a sneak peek of the new plastic iPhone
So this is just the back shell of the phone
Now as you can see it actually integrates all the chassis components as well
So we don't have our battery or the display or anything like that
We just have the chassis components like the EM shield the frame for the book
Okay, that's that's basically the point the video goes on for about six minutes
But uh, I don't know. I don't know how much more there is to say about it than that
It's a little bit thicker than an iPhone 5. It's obviously gonna be cheaper than an iPhone 5
How how many times has Steve Jobs
Spun in his grave at this point in the very short time that he's been passed away
My comment directly on the document was just how pissed would jobs be?
Yeah, I
Mean, well did the 3g was had a plastic back
Yes, but they moved beyond that and I don't think jobs ever believed in moving backwards
The original iMac was a plastic CRT after that. Did he ever go back to a plastic iMac? No
Yeah, I mean plastic is I mean that's one of my my most major criticisms of the of the s4 the s4 that
The texture of the plastic on the s4 is so slimy
It's um, it just doesn't it just doesn't have that same sort of feel. It doesn't feel like a high quality material
I mean these are these are gonna be cheap. These are gonna be the first apples first foray into the
I suppose the budget market and have and they're for definitely their first foray into having multiple devices available in the phone segment. So
I think there's pretty much one reason they did it not not there's two reasons
I guess there's the expense so they could sell them cheaper and second they're gonna do colors and
They've had incredible success in the past with the iPod lineup going, you know
Having different colors for a different audience and I don't know
I mean, I personally don't care that much about colors, but I guess there's probably a youthful audience out there
Even iPods were anodized metal later on in the product cycle or later on in the in the product development
And I mean the reason I think they're doing this is
pure
dick measuring
For lack of a better word you look at Samsung smartphone shipments versus Apple's iPhone shipments for q2
Samsung sold about double what Apple does is that because they're selling a bajillion in one s4s. Okay partially. Yes
Yeah, they didn't Apple doesn't launched a new phone
Yes, so Apple hasn't launched a new phone and in addition to that Apple doesn't have a low cost
Volume mover in order to maintain their dominance with the with the App Store
If they want to keep having as many downloads as Google Play, which I don't think it has Google passed them already
If not, it's very close
For total of all time
I'm pretty sure but they have a they have a long head start and I think they're not that far ahead anymore last time I
Looked at it. So there's two things here
So number one is I think Apple is afraid in that measuring contest
That is how many units of phones are you selling and number two is I think they want to maintain
iOS as the premier development
mobile platform for developers to really be attracted to
And I wonder if either of those are the right approach because you look at what brought about the success of
Os10 and it wasn't Apple being afraid of having six percent market share
They were content to have six percent market share, but they did what they believed was right
Whether it was right or not is a whole other conversation
But they did what they believed and it looks like that's turning around now with the iPhone where instead of doing what they believe
Is right and what they believe is correct they're doing what investors are demanding or what you know?
Yahoo's that email them are telling them that they think they should do. I don't think Cook has the balls
They're going for those happy metrics instead of what is
Really deep down what they should be going for because of exactly what you just said which don't necessarily feel like repeating
But I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah, they've they've been making mass-market decisions for a while now
I mean you you can look at some of their decisions with the pro lineup
I mean, they didn't update the Mac Pro for well years now, maybe five years terrible, you know, and and they
You know, they've going been going with more embedded solutions where systems aren't as upgradeable as they once were
You know one of the most major consumer decisions they made was to put their stores in malls where if anybody does any
Research on malls, you know that like eight out of ten people at any given time in a mall are females
I remember I remember I'm not trying to be sexist or anything
but generally speaking enthusiasts are males if you look at your analytics of your channel, you'd know that but
But anyway, yeah, it's it's they've made been making decisions the whole way
That have been mass-market decisions where they want to reach consumers who they don't care if they were previously their consumers
They're always targeting new users, even though their loyalty numbers have traditionally been been incredible
but one of the things just regarding development that still remains to be
That they're that where their dominance is is in getting people to pay for apps
Yeah, because because on the Android side as many downloads as they're going on and as many developers are focusing in that area
You'll see an app that costs four dollars on iOS and the developer has to give it away for free with ads on on the Android
Because the user base has a different mentality regarding
You know the purchasing of an app the App Store
Claims to have the largest database of credit cards of any e-commerce site next to X to Amazon
So tell me this will a cheap phone turn that around
will it will we be attracting more cheapskates to the iOS platform who aren't willing to pay for an app because
It was actually I was taught I was on a message board for an app that I absolutely love air video. It's awesome
It's iOS only because the developer basically came out and said in this thread
We don't give any cares about Android because we're not convinced any of those users will give us any money
Whereas we have a very healthy business
supporting iOS
Developing this iOS app that we believe is the best in the market and it really is it's so much better than anything else
It's smooth. It's perfect
And we're gonna stick with that because this is the horse that got us here. Do you think that?
Creating a cheapo iPhone or like a value iPhone will erode that premium
mentality that an iOS user has and that willingness to pay
I
Mean there's there's obviously the potential for it
But it's hard to imagine that an end user would walk home with a new iOS device
Even if that's an iPod touch for that matter and not launch into the App Store and see what's hot on the charts
I mean, that's just the next thing that you do. I see kids who have iOS devices and
Their parents credit cards are hooked up to them because it's it's a pay-to-play type ecosystem, you know
Recently there was though really mom who had like a $6,000 charge. Yeah because of the in-app purchases
Yeah, it was a game and they're kind of shrouded that they were really purchases
You know make them like an adult would be like, okay
This is a purchase but it was slightly shrouded and it wasn't a big complicated process to buy something
So the kids just do whatever. Yeah. Yeah, and there's like a class action. I think on that particular
Against that particular app, but yeah
It's there you you boot into the iOS ecosystem and you realize pretty quickly that if you're going to participate in any meaningful way
You need to connect the credit card and that just doesn't happen when you boot into the Google Play Store
Yeah, you know so whether the device it's cheaper or not if you want to utilize it you you kind of that's just the approach
They've taken
Alright, well, that's uh, that's a very interesting take on it and I don't I don't disagree actually
Yeah
I guess we'll have to see what happens because the reality of it is
iPhone 4 has been available as a value option for zero dollars with contract at least here in Canada for a while
Yeah, and they've continued to sell a ton of them
Still a great phone. I'm
You know, I love the HTC one, but I if I had to go back to using my iPhone for today
I wouldn't die I'd be fine
No, and yeah, and there's there are certain things that you I mean on both sides
Both platforms that each one does better than the other. It's just it's not a very clear argument that particular one
It's what I hate getting into that argument
Probably more than any other and I probably run into it more than any other the whole iPhone versus Android
All right, well, thank you so much for joining us
Do you want to do a quick plug for your channel before you go? Oh sure. Yeah
So I'm available at unbox therapy on Twitter or youtube.com slash unbox therapy
And yeah, I make videos about consumer products and talk about consumer products
And so if you want to check out more then that's the place to do it
Or anyone who thinks for competitors guys, that is totally ridiculous
We even cover the same products sometimes but it's a very different style from what we do here
Yeah, for sure. No, we're all cool. I mean
It's really I think it's really valuable to connect with people of like-mindedness in this space just because it's so new and moving so
quickly that
Having success depends on it
All right. Thanks so much Lou. I really appreciate you joining us and thank you very very much for joining
All right, I think he's gone
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Just before we jump into the Twitter blitz because I'm assuming yeah, we're gonna do a Twitter blitz
So guys hit us on Twitter right now. I
wanted to jump on to our
seemingly weekly
EA news. Oh, I know right part. Yeah here. Let me bring let me bring this up cuz it's just like
It's terrible as usual
Oh
Yeah
Like the thing is everything that we talk about is newsworthy
I know just happens to always be them
So the original Madden programmer wins 11 million in a lawsuit against EA and the work
It's just the tip of the iceberg
Brutal oh, yeah
So basically he developed Madden for ms-dos Commodore Apple to
Like a long time ago and has an agreement with them where they have to pay him royalties for every release on derivative works
Which basically amounts to anything with Madden in the title? Yeah, and they've been releasing Madden games for well since then. Yeah, so
I don't think they have ever paid out
I don't know why he waited so long but as of now they owe him a lot of money. So basically the court's ruling
So hold on. So the 11 million dollars has been awarded for games. It looks like prior to 1996
the court's ruling also gives antonik the ability to pursue the same claims against EA for games released after
1996 where revenues exceed three billion dollars
So maybe that is the answer maybe the trick is
Find your an employer who's stupid enough to sign a royalty deal build something for them with a clause about derivative works
I mean honestly the fact that EA signed anything to do with royalties for derivative works is insane
They probably forgot this was so long ago
Like so incredibly long ago
They probably just forgot the fact that anyone at EA was ever stupid enough to sign anything
like royalties for derivative works
Is just that's not that surprising. Oh, come on now. They made SimCity online only
Okay, but I mean at least there's a rationale there
I mean maybe the rationale for him was that they didn't want to pay him very much money
And so they just kind of signed whatever they did
I mean some of the best movie deals have been on ones where the film wasn't expected to do very well
So the you know principal actor says, okay, we'll just give me 1% of the revenue and it's like yeah
Yeah, yeah, so I think he doesn't have to work anymore at any rate yeah, no
although if he developed it for DOS
Commodore and Apple 2
You might be around they're not working anymore range already
Yeah, but now he gets to not work and sit on a boat sort of like
High class baller. Yeah
It's like a pool full of ladies
That are just there because you know, they could hang out there because it's a nice boat
All right, so let's go oh my gosh 84 new interactions on Twitter
And
Let's go ahead and hit that. Would you rather buy a 3770 K or 3820?
I'd probably go 3770 K. How about you?
Why 3820 I don't know probably do you need 64 gigs of ramp? No, okay
What are yours and slicks opinions on the Cooler Master Quickfire TK and the alternatives at the same price point that you like
So the TK is I believe the the sort of ten keyless one if I recall correctly
TK stands for ten keyless. So there is the wait, hold on
Which one's the one that has the arrow keys integrated into the number pad?
I don't remember exactly what it's called, but I'm pretty sure that one's just the ten keyless. Oh, okay in that case
It's fine. It's a Cooler Master mechanical keyboard. It's a
Your opinion on the razor hammerheads I haven't tried them yet mine actually arrived in the mail like two three days ago
So it's much to my embarrassment that I haven't had a chance to try them yet, but I'm extremely stoked to check them out and
I've heard that they're quite bassy so I can already say that I they're probably not my favorite thing in the world
But my understanding is for forty nine ninety nine
They're actually not bad the the overview on a Nantec was pretty positive cool
Do you rent do you recommend Cherry MX red switches? Not really?
So people do like them
David Fitzpatrick's have you ever considered delidding a processor?
I was actually the first one to ever deal it in x6800 extreme edition. So there you go. Yes, I have
I don't really recommend it though. And no I haven't because I don't yeah, I haven't used the audio engine a5 plus speakers unfortunately
That's that's one of the problems especially with audio equipment. It's like recommending it before you've tried it is kind of sketchy
Yeah, it's better to just not I've heard great things about it. It's one of those things I've heard of but
Apple equals new EA. No, nothing Apple does is as stupid as anything that EA does. I
Don't like Apple. I would not say that
Yeah, exactly
You know what speaking of Apple our story, you know what?
We're gonna come back to Twitter blitz after because I wanted to get into Samsung being the largest
You can see our most profitable consumer electronics company now
So where did that go?
It's somewhere there was three of it. I think at one point in time
Did we all oh here it is. Did we all put it in the doc?
Yeah, so I had to try and clean it up that doc was incredibly messy. That's right
So there you go. Yahoo news in the second calendar quarter of this year
Samsung stole Apple's long-standing title with quarterly profit of
8.3 billion compared to Apple's 6.9 billion so
That that is news and that's fascinating
So 71 million units of smartphones compared to Apple's 31 million
But what I want to launch into with this is are we really gonna start calling Apple a new EA?
when they're making
6.9 billion in a quarter I
I
Mean this is where that mentality that if a business isn't growing exponentially
You know like that that curve or that or that hockey stick if a business isn't doing that then it's a failure
Apple is not a failure yet. They're a long way away from being a failure. They made
6.9 billion
Dollars selling half as many units of smartphones as Samsung their business is extremely profitable and
Extremely lucrative and they have cash cash cash to develop whatever new
Concept as long as someone shows up over there with the vision to make it happen that they want to
like it's gonna take so
Long to for them to fall if they do fall
Yes, it will take an incredibly long amount of time because their coffers are huge
Yes, they have so much money
It's insane and they still will have a cult-like following of people somewhere that will continue to buy their products
So they will continue to exist even if they're much smaller and much more niche. Remember they've done this before
They've become niche and by becoming niche
They have blown up. Yes, because that happens sometimes as you'll see they become niche
And then all the professional people start using them and then they pull up they could do that
And if at some point they figure out how to appease their professional users again
That would be a very so Tim Cook if you're watching right now
Appease your professional users because they advocate for you
They're dropping off like I mentioned last week Freddie Wong released a big thing about how he's moving to PC
Yeah, well final final cuts a disaster now people are moving over to Adobe and Premiere ain't perfect
No, but final cuts a total disaster and Adobe has figured out how to get people to pay for Creative Cloud
Holy crap, we're paying for Creative Cloud. They've kind of gone. Okay, let's tie together enough value-add services
we are going to make this a
package in much the same way that office revolutionized word processing and you know
PowerPoints and Excel see you hardly I can hardly even remember what those programs are called if I don't call them word Excel and PowerPoint
Anymore, but that is what it looks like. Adobe is doing with this suite of products
That's going to be getting more and more tightly integrated with every generational improvement. So
Come on, Apple sort of written for you here. I'm not but they can still do it
Are you am I using Chrome remote desktop on your laptop? No, I'm not I'm using an HDMI capture device
But that would be a phenomenally cool way of doing this
About YouTube subs I couldn't even find that twitch was running until I actually checked the web page
Yeah, can one of you explain what a gaming keys are used for I
3 plus 650 TI or I 5 with 659 TI. I'd go I 3 with 650 TI
What about you depends on his use case, but yeah, probably
What monitors do you each use? I'm using some ancient Ben Q thing, but I have to a sus pb 278
So 27 inch 25 60 by 1440s inbound. I have PA 248 cues. So we both use a sus
IPS panels I really although at that same point in time if you're going for a
Cheaper IPS panel LG makes a lot of really good
That's that is that are cheater has some really nice IPS cheapo monitors these days
So just like just because we use a sus monitor doesn't mean that's all you should go for with the Xbox one and ps4
Both being AMD based. Do you think there will be more games optimized for an indie based system? No
Is Haswell good enough for PC gaming? Yes
Three I'm watching the land show. All right. I saw that EA article knew you guys were gonna make it
Love it. What a 660 be good for 1080p gaming. It would be okay
I wouldn't expect it to last a real long time, especially with new consoles. They're so cheap now though
Hey, I'm the price route. Yes, people are giving them for like incredibly low amounts of money
All right, 79 70 matrix edition versus GTX 780 GTX 780 a tasty PC has actually declined
I haven't reached out to Corsair George yet
But that's a great idea and I really want to do that and JJ will be joining us next week
Yeah, of course our George is a great idea. That's a great idea. I really like George. He's awesome
I love the new format of the live stream seems much more professional and fluid except for that bit where we couldn't get lose
Might going thanks to Windows automatically adjusting
I know that's bizarre, right? Yeah. I know that's a thing that happens
I just never really thought about the process because it's lowering exploits volume which shouldn't really yeah
Do you have Maximus six formula in the mail? Not yet
Although I should probably bug JJ about it because I'm really excited about it on the live stream space all that pressure
Yeah, so he has no choice but to send us a Maximus six formula
Those won't fit in my case. Okay?
Then get something else an HD 14 or silver era. What are some cool things? I can fill my PCI slots with
Sound card. Yeah get a sound card. You can still get a lot of PCI sound cards
You can get a zoner SDX PCI. You know what? There's not much to put in an expansion slot these days. I
Have a sound card in a raid card sound raid video. Yeah
USB expansion. Ah, yes. So this is for the system for mr. Wizard one of our administrators on the Linus tech tips forum
We we arranged for him to get a six core extreme edition 980 X system
The one problem with that system is it didn't have an internal USB 3 header to run to the USB 3 front panel ports
So we picked up this Silverstone card. What was it 30 bucks?
It was like I think 20 or 25 but then with shipping and taxes and everything it became
Gen2 it's gonna be able to get full bandwidth. No, it's like it's a nice card
Silverstone's that company that just doesn't get enough credit for the cool stuff
They do because other companies have made these but one thing I found about this is it had everything
Yeah, the internal header had everything and the external ports. Yeah, and like oh, yeah. Yeah Silverstone
They just I wish they would mark it better
It's like what Lou was saying where at the end of the day
This can be the best USB expansion card on the market
And if Silverstone doesn't figure out how to make people desire it with whether it's a flashy campaign or whatever else
No one will ever know. Yeah, cuz my my computer that I hold the lands
It's an old 775 platform that still performs fairly well
But the case has USB 3 on it and there's just a dead port because I can't now that I've seen this
I'm kind of like ooh
If I buy one of those that could really bring some buy one of those and an SSD I could really breathe life back into
You hadn't even heard of the bloody thing up till now neither of us had
like
It's cool that it exists, but I'd never actually I'd never needed one
So I'd never looked for one and no one has ever told me anything about it because no one seems to care
Okay. Well, we should probably do build of the week because we've been streaming for an hour and a half already over
Sure, so bring it on builds of the week
We've got three this week actually because a certain user on our forum keeps on getting in here
But I can't leave him out because his builds are too good. So I didn't want to
Like just have it. So every time he builds something someone gets knocked off a build of the week
So I threw him in there on the end not because he isn't deserving but because he's already been in twice
Okay, so we'll see when we get there
So just so you guys know builds of the week and are in the build log section of the forum
You can check them out there and in the Linus news and ramblings or whatever section
I'm gonna post our entire when show
Document so you can click any of the links of any of the articles that we were discussing and all that good stuff
So let's switch over here and boom arc underwater. So this is my fail wheel drive
I see a lot of people do green builds
But I don't necessarily see a lot of people do green builds that well this it just looks super sharp
He had to do a couple custom cuts. I know he had to do some custom cuts to his ODD base
Yeah, so just super sharp super clean and I love this it's
Built like this like I try and pick the best picture
I possibly can but you guys really need to go to the forum and check out the thread
Because he has a ton of really nice photos and it doesn't justify it to be in one picture, right?
Okay, so so please go check this guy's build out. It's awesome
This is great pump res combo he's got going on here. Yeah, that makes it extremely clean
You've eliminated a couple of components. He's got it right looks like it's bolted to the radiator
Very nice really really clean build looks really sure and he did green
Well, which really like I know I already said that but green can look kind of tacky sometimes
And I like the color that he picked for and everything now this one I picked an interesting angle for the picture
But you'll notice immediately why I
Go in the top. There's a window in the top. There's the whole color of the theme is very dusty
Interesting. So he's gone with a saber-tooth or rather a tough series
AMD board by the look of things. Is that what that is or no as he colored the heat sinks. What is this?
He's done a lot of stuff. He's cut the back out here on the on the on the right side panel
He's actually printed Tomb Raider in big printing which looks really good
And he went with the red and black text
Which I think was actually a good idea because that's how it is in their logo
Although I would suit the build better if it was all black now again
Please go look at this guy's thread because you can get other angles
I had to show that top window because that's so cool
But if you can actually get in there in the computer, you can see his color theming on everything and it's awesome
Look at that. He got right to the edge with that top window. That's very unique. I've never seen anything quite like that
Super super cool. You know what probably my favorite modded build is ever also kind of window related
Someone did do you remember the p?
182 se that mirror finish and tech case someone got of a two-way mirror and
Did a side panel window on it that if the lights inside were off was a mirror
Yeah, and when he turned on the lights inside you could see all the internal components
It was for sale on like red flag deals or something and I was like gonna buy it
Inwinds has a case like that now. It's like 700 bucks though. Oh, wow
Now it's snap. This is the guy who's been here a few times. Wow. His builds are always amazing
I can't leave the mode of bill those of the week, but then I don't really want them to take over other people's chances
Again, tons of different angles. I picked I chose this one because it shows the intricacy
Intricacy of his tubing because that's insane. Wow
That is just unbelievable the planning that goes into this
Nice, straight runs always looks so much better than curved runs. It's just the truth
and like he
He made a custom label for his SSD and a custom label for his power supply that both go with the purple chimera theme
Wow
Super nice
Yeah, that's outstanding. I have heard through multiple channels that he had to sell this one, which is unfortunate
But I mean and like the graphics card looks super nice. You got it, but you got to see it from the other side
So definitely again check out this thread on the forum
And yeah build logs of the week this week pretty freaking cool
Yeah, that was that was quite the run of awesome build logs this week. All right guys
I think that pretty much wraps it up
Thank you for tuning in to the land show this week guys
I stay tuned for the after party, although it might be a bit of a shorter version of the after party and
Is that it
Thanks for watching. Yeah, hopefully I didn't embarrass myself too badly with that story at the beginning. Do we have to do a outro?
All right
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