And we are live!
We're live on the WAN Show with our special guest, Jayz2Says!
I take special very serious.
Very special guest, the specialist guest, the greatest.
You know what's actually kind of funny is it didn't occur to me until we were already live,
but it is possible that we still have the lower third from...
No, we do not. Somebody cleared out that folder.
That would have been super cool if we still had like an ancient lower third from having you on as a guest,
like two years ago? Three years ago?
It was probably more like three. Yeah, well.
Probably more like three.
So, let's do a quick rundown of some of the topics that we want to discuss today.
Actually, I've got one that I'm not sure if is in the doc,
but Jay, you and I both released videos discussing the X299 platform and sort of gave some thoughts on it.
You know, I'd love to kind of go head-to-head about it and kind of exchange some of those thoughts
and for the audience would love for us to flesh things out a little bit.
So, I'm all about fleshing out if you know what I mean.
And...
See how much awkward silence I can get?
I got a good two heartbeats there.
Yeah, that was solid.
And we've also got a lot of Apple news this week that I'm sure everyone is going to have an opinion on
because some of it looks amazing and some of it looks like it should be amazing,
but actually...
Wait, is this seriously not in here in detail?
Okay, that's fine. We can get to that later.
So, yeah, without further ado, let's roll the intro and get right into this because there's a lot to cover today.
Yep.
I can hear it. Oh, wait, we're on the same thing now.
Okay, so why don't we jump right into the big highlight from the...
I didn't put the guest up. There he is.
Why don't we jump into the big highlight from Apple's event?
Oh, and I just realized we don't have Jay when I'm sharing my screen,
so we're just going to have to do the screen shares really quickly.
So, this is from The Verge.
The eight biggest announcements from Apple WWDC 2017.
Number one, Apple announces the HomePod speaker to take on Amazon Echo and Sonos.
So, can I kick this off by saying who here actually uses and or desires...
My grandpa all the time. Same with my mom.
Okay, so tell me exactly what it is that people are using home speakers for.
I almost have no idea.
I think part of the idea is that it can be louder than your phone automatically
without having your volume settings already on.
I think it's more responsive to voice from further away.
I'm assuming those things are what it's for. I don't use it.
Jay, what are you doing?
But yeah, my grandpa and my mom are both very Apple users.
I was so unenthusiastically not following anything to do with Apple until I saw the Vega thing,
which I'm sure you're going to talk about.
Yeah, I was going to get to the important stuff later.
Yeah, I don't know. I could see my dad who's fairly disabled liking voice command stuff,
but I can't bring myself to get an Alexa or a Google Home, so why would I want this?
I think part of the idea is if he's watching the TV or cooking food or something,
and he just doesn't even want to pull his phone out, he can just talk to it and it's fine.
Wait, hold on a second. Apparently Jay is way out of sync.
He wasn't. He looks in sync here.
See, I bring the old Tech Talk mantra with me wherever I go.
Oh, it's slightly behind.
Oh, people are like, yeah, he's way out of sync, 100 to 200 milliseconds.
Okay.
I mean, there's only so much you could do with video over IP, right?
Wow. Okay. You know what? I think we're just not going to care at all.
So, okay. So basically, I'll say this. I have a Sonos speaker.
Actually, I have a few Sonos speakers.
And what I really like about them is that you can turn on one room or two rooms or a bunch of rooms.
I do think Sonos speakers are overpriced.
So for Apple to come in and say, okay, yeah, we're going to have a home speaker that is, you know, sounds great
and is also a competitor for Sonos and also happens to have Siri for if you're wondering like how tall the average giraffe is or whatever.
Sure.
Then I guess there's some utility there, but I can't figure out who is actually using Apple HomeKit stuff.
And I can't figure out what exactly it is that people other than me have figured out how to do with Siri that's actually useful.
That's one of my bigger questions is because like I and I feel like it was actually better before.
Have you had that experience?
I feel like my voice activated stuff has gotten worse over time.
Almost every time I go to use Siri, like here, let's do a live demo.
Hey, Siri.
Hey, Siri.
Can you set a reminder for me to pick up my kids at 10 p.m. tonight?
OK, I'll remind you.
OK, well, whatever, I managed to get it right after not hearing me the first time.
But like so many times it'll it'll get the it'll have like the time in the reminder.
It'll be like, oh, well, when would you like to do that?
Like, holy crap.
You literally have 10 p.m. right there.
I don't know how I could have been much more clear than that.
And I've just been so frustrated with it lately that I just can't imagine myself buying a dedicated appliance just to be mad.
And after three attempts, pull out my phone and just freaking type it in.
You know, when I did my Sonos stuff last year, because I'm like you have quite a bit of Sonos stuff and it really had one selling point for me.
And that was the app controlled volume and whatnot, because when you have toddlers and kids like me who like to crank the TV super loud,
it was just convenient to be upstairs, be able to turn the TV down by having to yell, turn the TV down like that.
One feature alone for me was worth it.
But I mean, in terms of like home assistants and home speakers and stuff like that,
I don't use any of the other functionality built into the Sonos with the exception of just being able to switch it and maybe stream some music.
I think to play a little bit of devil's advocate, I guess no one's really fighting for the other side.
But I think for like the more normies out there, I guess.
Is that what we call them now?
I guess. I think this serves actually a better use case because it fits the like super classic,
easy to understand dynamic of like the person chopping vegetables in their kitchen who like randomly thinks of something and doesn't want to stop.
Like, hey, can you convert three quarters of a cup to the metric system?
Yeah. And like apparently it actually does that pretty well. I know your phone didn't just pick you up.
I could see my wife doing that.
Yeah. And like I know your phone didn't just pick you up very well, but a dedicated appliance.
A $350 appliance for that. Of course, though.
So again, back to OK, so there's two discussions to have here.
One is, is this thing really that useful? And the second one is, will normies flock out and buy it?
I don't know about flock out and buy it.
Well, hold on. I was about to make an argument there because when I was over in Taiwan,
I stayed at Dennis's parents house for the first day because our hotel wasn't available to check in yet anyway.
And they actually had like so many dedicated appliances that my zero clutter lifestyle would not allow me to take for free, let alone go out and buy.
Zero clutter lifestyle?
They have at home. You haven't been to my house lately, have you?
Yeah.
Well, OK, I have kids stuff. Yeah, I have kids stuff. But like, OK, like my aunt, she has everything from like she has a dedicated juicer just for lemons and limes.
OK. Yeah.
She's got a noodle maker.
Yeah. She's got it. OK. She's got a salad spinner.
And I'm sitting here going, you know what? You know how you dry the salad? You kind of shake it over the sink and you put it in the bowl.
It's done. You know, that's like it's like spending too much time on QVC or the shopping network, right?
You just like, oh, that looks useful and you buy it, but then you really never use it.
So Dennis's parents own an in-home sauna.
And remember, this is in Taiwan. It's not a huge house.
In Taiwan, it's a little bit surprising. But if I remember correctly, in Finland, there's a sauna per person.
OK.
Saunas are just not that popular in Canada.
And and number two, they had this like like riding thing that I posted on social media.
That was like an exercise device of some sort. And I'm sitting here going, you know, that is like the erotic bode flex, you know?
Yeah, I think it was for core exercises. But man, did it look like this is what I want to know.
Are people not learning? Everyone goes out and buys a rowing machine or a treadmill or an ice cream maker.
Everybody does it and they just keep doing it.
What's wrong with a rowing machine or a treadmill?
The fact that you use it six times.
What if someone does use it?
Yeah, but those people are one in a thousand.
That's true.
That's the point.
We have a chocolate fountain.
Like those ones you see at like a party or a wedding.
Don't ask me why, but how many times did you guys use that?
We've never used it, but we've lent it out plenty of times.
So basically, if Jay's two cents doesn't end up working out for you,
then you're going to start up a like pointless bullshit white people appliances rental house.
Kitchen loans.
Yeah.
There is probably a business there. Like my parents. My parents bought the slicer machine.
The like V-shaped blade where you can like slice fries out of a potato and just like one thing.
We had the Bamix, which by the way, did pay for itself in homemade mayonnaise.
You can make mayonnaise in like minutes or Bamix.
I'm not trying to sell you the Bamix.
OK, but you know, we had that one.
That is so I really didn't know there was that many people into homemade mayonnaise.
Yeah, but I don't think there are a lot of people into it so much as there are a few people that are really into it.
So that makes sense.
Anyway, my my take on the HomePod is, OK, it's got seven beamforming speakers and a four inch subwoofer.
And apparently Apple is really excited about the sound quality.
They're going after the Sonos Play three with extra functionality.
If it does all this stuff really well, then great.
But one of the things I love so much about Sonos is that whether I'm using an iPhone or an Android device this week,
I can use it regardless. So I have to see how Apple.
Again, that's not a use case for like almost anybody.
Well, OK, I can go over to my parents house and regardless of what kind of phone I'm using, I can tap into Sonos and play some music, which is pretty cool.
Well, how about the fact that the Sonos is also its own music server, too?
You can just offload your favorites and create playlists on the Sonos on your own network regardless of what devices are hooked up to it.
Isn't it just speakers?
Sonos?
Yeah.
No, it's pretty cool.
Can it answer how tall is an average giraffe?
No, it can't do that.
So then it's not really the same thing, though.
But the logic being that if I'm going to buy an iPod or whatever, the HomePod, if I'm going to buy a HomePod, I probably already have one of these in my pocket.
Now, I get a lot of Sonos mail because I've signed up for their stuff.
It's like one of the few newsletters I actually pay attention to.
And there was some early talk like late last year, early this year about there being an assistant in development.
I feel like a new assistant from Sonos probably wouldn't be very good, considering what Apple and Google and Microsoft have been able to do in this long of a time.
But who knows?
Considering how terrible everything is, honestly, I have no faith in a Sonos home assistant.
I just don't need a home assistant.
No, but you're not most people, though.
Here's the thing.
All these use cases for smart appliances, let's talk smart appliances for a minute, okay?
Oh, I'm going to lose now.
Okay, all these use cases, they're like, yeah, you can...
IoT appliances.
What is it?
You can...
Your juicer needs to be connected to the internet.
Your dryer.
Or else it's not going to work.
I forget who it was.
I think it was Samsung showing a smart washer and dryer.
And they're like, yeah, so you can control your washer and dryer from a distance.
I'm like, you mean instead of when I actually put the bloody clothes in, just...
Getting notifications that your load is done could be helpful, though.
We have an LG smart refrigerator.
Okay, okay, what's it do?
Why would I care?
It warns you when the filters need to be changed, if a door got left open, if it's under temperature.
And a light on the front of the fridge couldn't do that.
Well, if the door got left open and you're upstairs because you're going to bed, the
light on the front of the fridge wouldn't help you.
Again, eight-year-old child.
We have a piece of paper on our fridge at work saying please remember to close the fridge
because people can't seem to do it.
That worked for like two days.
I'm just saying, these things aren't completely useless.
And I think, considering my comment about normies being more into Google Home and all
that kind of stuff, the Apple HomePod might do better for them than the watch did.
So targeting people who can't figure out how to close their fridge.
No, but at the same time, like you say it's not going to be very helpful for you because
you won't be chopping vegetables because you're not the one doing most of the cooking.
Now ours doesn't at least go as far.
Whoa, shots, okay, you go first Jay, but I have to address the shots fired over there.
Okay, ours is at least not one of those ones that will tell you what you're low of in the
fridge and automatically link it to your Amazon Fresh cart and whatnot.
I mean, we do have the Amazon Fresh scanner thing, my wife likes to use that, but there's
refrigerators out there that can tell when you're low on milk and it will automatically
order it for you.
At least we didn't go that far.
But I can actually see that being useful, whereas the more rudimentary stuff I don't
know if I care as much about.
Okay, and back to your whole thing.
I don't need to convert metric to imperial because I actually already know these things.
Teaspoon, five mils, tablespoon, 15 mils, one cup, 250 mils.
A liter is approximately a quart, it's a little more.
A gallon is four liters approximately, it's about 3.75 liters.
Okay, I can convert this crap in my head, I don't need an iPood.
I only speak American, so I need the help, okay?
Not everyone can.
And what if your kid asks you a question and it's of something super weird that you've
never followed?
Then I'm gonna make it up because that's half the fun of being a parent.
Daddy, what does a giraffe do all day?
Well, son, giraffes actually play a lot of poker.
People don't know this because you look at those hoops and you think, gee, how do they
even hold the cards?
But giraffes, see, it's endless, okay?
You make it up.
You make it up.
No problem.
My dad made things up to me and I turned out just fine.
I'd say that explains a lot.
Brandon is yelling debatable.
That's enough of your crap, Brandon!
Alright, let's talk about the new iMacs because I think basically this explains how AMD managed
to remain so secretive about Vega.
Because AMD leaks everything.
But it seems like if you're gonna collaborate with Apple and Apple wants to be the one to
announce the first desktop Vega graphics card, then people probably ran around the office
going, okay, no, for real this time, for real this time, don't leak Vega, okay?
Don't leak Vega.
Apple wants to do it and if we don't sell them to Apple, we're not gonna have a lot
of customers.
I'm salty about the whole thing.
Okay, alright.
So, hit me.
Hit me with the salt.
Well, okay.
So, AMD is kind of rebasing its whole foundation, right, of community-oriented, gamer-oriented
and we've been waiting for Vega for quite a while, right?
But I feel a little bit stabbed in the back by AMD that they're launching it in an Apple
product first.
I mean, that's kind of where I'm at with that.
So, when the news came out, I basically just kind of like face-palmed and then turned it
off because at that point, I just felt like AMD sold out on that one.
Now, it's no news that AMD graphics have been in MacBook Pros and Mac for a while, but I
just feel like the Vega that everyone's been waiting for kind of going to Apple first.
It's not great and I don't like it either, but I'm willing to give them a little bit
of benefit of the doubt.
Listening to what you're saying, I hear that, but we all know that they need as much money
as possible.
So, if there was some amount of like, they're gonna make more from this, if there's some
amount of temporary exclusivity deal or something, then I'm willing to give it to them because
I think if it's only Vega Pro, then I guess that kind of makes sense, but I mean, we're
still waiting for more kind of gamer or mainstream Vega, but still.
Right now, to my knowledge, Apple is the only tier one computer maker that not...
Forget about being exclusive to AMD Radeon.
Apple is the only tier one PC maker that even emphasizes AMD Radeon.
So, I do understand why Apple is getting some special treatment here because even like...
So, I got a press release today that Acer is doing like a 799 budget gaming desktop.
I was actually thinking, yeah, we might actually pull it in for review because it's Ryzen based.
Okay.
Yeah.
They still put a 1050 in it.
Wow.
It's just like, okay, so part of the problem is that supply is really tight on the RX cards
because cryptocurrency mining is super important again.
Came back around.
But part of it too is that like they're competitive, but they're not like a green team crushing
solution at any level in the product stack.
The Twitch chat is so salty that you said tier one.
What?
Tier one is like, it's a term you can define.
I know.
It's not an opinion.
But they're so upset.
I mean, they're going to hate who the rest of the tier ones are, okay?
Dell, HP, Lenovo.
What did you think I was going to say?
Like Asus, MSI?
I'm sorry.
Those guys are tier one motherboard manufacturers.
But in the PC system space, they are way behind, okay?
I'm sorry.
Get over it.
So let's talk a little bit about the device that Vega graphics are going into.
I may do a dedicated video on this actually, just kind of discussing this.
But Jay, hit me with your thoughts on an iMac Pro.
Okay.
So should I do some approximate specs for the viewers before you kind of launch into
it?
Yeah, because I was kind of pulling up something.
Sure.
Okay, so let's do some context for you guys.
So much like the Mac Pro, this is a balls to the wall machine.
We're talking up to 18 core Xeon, we're talking up to 128 gigs of ECC RAM, we're talking Radeon
Vega graphics, a 5K display, four Thunderbolt 3 ports with support for external GPUs.
So that Vega GPU, however they're implementing it, whether it's MXM or whether it's baked
right into the PCB, is upgradable in a manner of speaking up to a four terabyte SSD, a 10
bit panel, new black peripherals, because that's important, UHS-II, SDXC card slot.
Hey, to people that might be into the HomePod, maybe it is.
Enough.
500 watt power supply, 1080p webcam, starting at $5,000.
I mean, this to me looks like a pretty bananas machine, but it's in an all-in-one.
Yeah.
I'm a little surprised that they spent so much emphasis on specs, because given kind
of where they've been over the, let's just say the last eight years, I mean you can still
buy an i7 dual core MacBook Pro.
So it just seems kind of surprising to me that they actually are going with the top
tier hardware this time around, because Apple's always been about software optimizations,
right?
Yes.
So I'm kind of wondering-
The experience.
You buy a product, not a spec sheet.
Right.
Given the price to specs, and the fact that it's Apple, I actually don't think that that
price is really out of whack.
I think it's right in line with where it should be, because you could build a similar Intel
based system with the same specs and spend just as much.
Yeah.
And that's true, depending though on what we are actually getting for five grand, because
that might be, maybe that's not Vega, and maybe that's, I mean it's certainly not an
18 core processor.
Right.
Because it does say it starts with an eight core Xeon.
So that would be, maybe is it eight core, does it have eight gigs of RAM?
Right.
It's configurable up to 15K.
Yeah, you never know how much Apple's going to kneecap something.
Honestly for me, the thing that I really take exception with, and the thing that again I
might do some kind of a follow up video on here, is that they're calling it pro.
That the pro users got upset when they took away the tower that you can put expansion
cards in, and they gave us a cylinder that you can clip, that you can plug expansion
devices into, and that now, they did say earlier this year that they're going to have something
to address the pro user, I guess what I want to know is, was this it?
Because to me, professional means, modular, upgradable, it means a path to continue using
it.
And the other thing that really upsets me, and that makes Apple's desktop ecosystem almost
impossible to support as a business owner, is the unpredictability of it.
If we go back for the last 10 years, so we just upgraded our editing workstations.
It was kind of time, it had been three, almost four years, something like that.
And so let's say over a span of 10 years, if our company were to have followed a typical
upgrade cycle of three to four years, we would have had towers, we would have had cylinders,
we would have been stuck with old cylinders thinking, holy crap, are we going to have
to just go straight to laptops, and then Apple would have dumped an AIO on us, with a, hold
on a second, I mean, what if we just upgraded our displays?
Apparently no, the new pro version is coming probably sometime in 2018.
Okay, which still doesn't address my fundamental problem with Apple not having a clear strategy.
In a professional environment, I need to know what my upgrade path is, so that if I'm going
to invest in a bunch of brand new 8K displays from Dell, let's say, exactly, I need to know
that the new machine that I'm going to have available to me is going to make any sense.
Oh, wait, oh, this one comes with a display already in it, like I just, I don't understand
Apple's pro lineup.
So that's kind of where I'm going with that.
Is this the first iMac Pro though?
I'm not sure.
Yes, it is.
I think so.
Yep.
So they're just introducing then the new pro line of iMacs, but for the, so then, okay,
based on the hardware available in the iMac, is the new MacBook Pro, or excuse me, the
new Mac Pro coming out in 2018 going to be essentially the same hardware in a tower format
with AIO water cooling again?
I mean, I have to kind of wonder what the next tier of hardware could be.
I kind of wonder too, like I would love for Apple to just go straight back to basics.
Here's a tower, here's where the expansion cards go.
Here's how you add a fricking hard drive that's connected to a SATA interface instead of connected
to a Thunderbolt interface for some reason.
Their desktop side of their enterprise has always been more concerned with the form factor
than anything else.
Yeah.
So I don't know, that's, that's where I'm at on that.
I'm glad that they do have a legitimate professional, you know, high end grade option, but I'm frustrated
that Pro products are being treated as basically disposable, other than being able to upgrade
the graphics, which is good, but the fact that we're doing this over Thunderbolt means
that there is going to be some kind of bottleneck that exists already and can only get worse.
So we did a fairly thorough, I think, investigation where we looked at Alienware's graphics amplifier
versus the Razer Core and found that already with a top tier 1080 TI, there are performance
differences between a straight PCIE interface and Thunderbolt 3 with all the extra overhead.
And people criticized us, they said, well, Linus, no one's going to put a 1080 TI in
that thing.
And I'm sitting here going, well, that wasn't the point.
The point is that three years from now, when it is time to upgrade your graphics card,
something with the power of a 1080 TI is going to cost 199.
And that's exactly what you're going to put in it.
Yeah.
Well, I played around Thunderbolt 3 for the first time earlier this year with the external
graphics card solutions, and I saw the same thing you did.
In fact, the performance degradation was so bad over even Thunderbolt 3 that I had to
get confirmation that anywhere between 25 to 35 percent performance loss was normal.
And I said, oh, yeah, that's normal.
OK, then what's the point of buying top tier graphics like this when it's just going to
dumb down to a tier or two lower on the graphics solutions?
So like you're saying, though, if using an interface like that is the option to stay
forward compatible, then you're just cutting yourself off at the knees and the ankles and
everything as you go forward.
One note about this new iMac.
I don't know what versions.
I know there's the pro, and I believe there's non-pro new versions.
The only thing I've seen is of the non-pro, but I'm assuming it's the same for both.
The CPU and the RAM are both replaceable.
Yeah, that was true of previous iMacs.
But not GPU still.
But not GPU still.
Like we're talking about anyways.
Yeah.
OK, so that's frustrating.
And I kind of doubt people are going to be super hardcore throttled by at least the CPU
part of that.
You might be able to get away with the classic Mac thing where you buy the one with less
RAM and then upgrade the RAM yourself because it's way freaking cheaper.
But who knows?
I don't know.
It's interesting.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I still haven't decided if I'm going to do a piece on it.
It kind of depends whether I can sort of come up with a coherent enough argument.
But it is something that I've wanted to talk about for quite some time.
Apple's sort of schizophrenic approach to professional products.
Surface Studio versus Mac Pro.
Oh, lordy.
Well, I don't necessarily.
So it's too early in the Surface product lineup for me to really talk about Microsoft's strategy.
Because right now it's really hard to tell what it is.
I can't discuss one member of the family.
Whatever that really means.
Whatever creator means.
I mean, this thing spanks the Surface Studio.
On paper anyway.
Performance wise, definitely.
Yeah.
And upgradeability wise, even.
Yeah.
Surface Studio is horrible.
Nightmare to get into.
So should we do the big announcement?
The reason that Jay's on the show today?
Oh, yeah.
Should we do that now?
Actually, you know what?
No.
What we're going to do is do it after the ads.
So why don't we do our sponsor call outs first?
Yeah.
Hold on.
I just want to do a quick tweet.
Do you want to start one of them?
And then, Jay, we'll just put you away for now.
Okay.
I'll duck out of the way.
Okay.
Cool.
Sure.
I'm going to conveniently start with Savage Jerky.
Yeah, dog.
Yeah, dog.
Can I have some?
Which one do you want?
Is this a new box?
This is not a new box.
Are they still okay?
Oh, yeah, probably.
It's Jerky.
I mean, how does Jerky go bad?
Yeah.
Okay.
Should I take on the Reaper today?
I don't remember the last time.
I don't remember.
I think I did the second hottest one.
Is that the one that has more...
That's five bars?
Is that one five bars?
Yeah.
The Reaper's five bars.
So Savage Jerky, fairly self explanatory.
It's Jerky.
Or you can get bacon, actually.
Maple bacon.
That's mine.
You don't get any.
Maple bacon.
That one's your favorite one.
Get rekt.
Where's my favorite one?
I'm going to do the...
Do we have a Carolina Reaper that's already open?
There we go.
There we go.
Yeah.
We got an open one.
This is not as popular just to eat for LOLs because it...
Oh, no.
We don't have an open one.
I don't think we've done this one since the last spot because if you're into Spicy Jerky,
this is for you.
That sounds pretty crazy.
I'm not that into Spicy Jerky.
There we go.
Mojo Habanero.
That's my favorite one.
They all come with generally four bars of heat on the front, so to tell you how hot
it is.
Mojo Habanero is a three.
The Reaper is special.
It comes with five bars and they're all filled because it is just more hot than freaking
anything.
Savage Jerky is a sponsor of ours.
They use the best ingredients without nitrates or preservatives.
Their goal is to create a snack that is full of flavor and spice and won't actually be
bad for you.
Apparently, their inspiration came from the flavor of garlic, lime, and cilantro.
I believe that.
You can taste it in almost all of them if you can still...
Exactly.
If you still have taste buds that work after you're done with some of them.
Yeah.
If you go for the Reaper, you might want to not taste it for long.
You'll taste it for a little bit at the start and then it goes away.
I don't fear the Reaper or the wind or the rain.
We can be like they are.
Come on, baby.
Apparently, outside of just the traditional flavors, most people go for Sriracha bacon
or maple buffalo bacon, which makes sense as to Linus's preferences.
Yeah.
They're pretty freaking good.
They have a whole bunch of different flavors.
They're really into the spicy stuff, hence Savage if you're into that.
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You did a pretty good job with that.
With what?
The jerky.
How much did you bite out of it?
Honestly, I only had probably about a piece this big.
Yeah.
Eating a whole one of those is like really rough.
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Jay back in now.
So Jay, you want to do the honors?
What exactly, why, why, why were you in the credits for all the episodes?
Did you take away my bacon?
No.
Where did my bacon go?
Never take a man's bacon.
Oh wait, yeah, that is the Buffalo.
Okay.
I'm not upset anymore.
Okay.
Okay.
Carry on.
Sorry.
I was about to get real, real angry cause I bought my bacon.
Jerky was gone.
Okay.
Carry on Jay.
No, I think it's funny because I think Ed put the credits up right after the first episode.
I think the credits were up and showed me there right next to Jonathan who, cause it
said in there, thanks for loaning equipment when we needed it and other stuff, right?
And some folks are, there's some pretty sharp people out there in the audience and they
were like, Oh, I guess we know who the celebrity judges and I was like, no, clearly I loaned
them equipment.
That's why I'm down here.
And Ed like, liked that tweet.
He's like, Oh yeah.
Cause I was trying to, I, this is probably the hardest secret I ever kept.
We're like what?
Three months, like three months past this.
Yeah.
So I was the guest celebrity judge on the RGB factor.
Uh huh.
So, uh, Scrapyard Wars episode four.
Have you seen it yet?
I have.
You have?
Okay.
I don't have access to it.
So Scrapyard Wars episode four is coming this weekend.
I think it's going to be on Sunday and without any spoilers, I think it's fair to say this.
Jay is a very impactful member of the cast for the fourth and final episode.
He not only, you know, did what he did as our celebrity guest.
He also lent us his studio space, which was very generous.
And he hung out with us until the wee hours of the morning because how many messages did
I send you saying, yeah, Hey, we're not coming yet.
It's going to be later.
Hey, actually it's going to be later.
Can we just stand around for a little while?
I, I, I, I think it is an opportunity to just sit on the couch here and watch some TV and
some Netflix, something I never get to do because I cleaned the studio, right?
I was like, okay, I want a fresh slate for you guys to be able to set up however you
want it to, you know, take, take rain to the space.
And I only moved in two weeks prior to that.
So it was pretty empty, right?
Compared to now, like you have to walk sideways to go down the hallway.
But no, it was, it was, it was fun because I got to see Scrapyard Wars for the first
time literally from the finale backwards because it's like, okay, I see how it ends.
I know how it ends, but I have no idea how we got here.
So it was really weird even for me, you know, cause I knew you kept sending these texts
like we're delayed.
We're delayed.
We're sorry.
And I'm just like, Oh my God, what is going on over there?
I'm thinking this better make for some good drama.
And it didn't disappoint.
So for those of you who want to watch Scrapyard Wars episode four early, I'm actually posting
a link in the chat.
Float plane club is our early access platform that we've got over on the Linus tech tips
forum that we would love to open up to other creators at some point.
Sorry, I think some of those costs are legitimate cause the jerky, not all of them, but this
is the maple bacon jerky.
Okay.
No, this stuff's fine.
Yeah.
Only, only the worst of content creators would consider such a platform.
Yeah.
Early access.
It does nothing but hurt the audience except when they don't notice that it's happening.
Yeah.
Except when that happens.
Also, you know, it kind of helps the creator.
There is the whole adpocalypse thing going on.
Yeah.
That's I don't know if anybody noticed that.
Yeah.
Um, all right.
Okay.
But that's literally killing.
Should we get back to maybe about 10 more minutes of news and then we'll bid adieu to
Jay and bring on Nikki V for one final land show stream.
Yeah.
Um, actually, okay.
We kind of touched on this, but this is sort of a, sort of a big deal.
AMD's GPU supply exhausted by cryptocurrency.
So I'll go ahead and screen share here real quick here.
So if you've been running out there trying to buy an RX four 70 or R excuse me, five
70.
Sorry.
Any of them, honestly, Freudian slip a five 70 or a five 80.
Um, yeah, you've probably had a bit of a hard time because people are, let's see, let's
have a look at what this stuff is.
So what are these coins?
I don't even know.
Have you been keeping up with this Jay?
Only a little bit.
I, I realized it was starting to pick back up in popularity when it was becoming difficult
to source this cause I'm, I'm getting to the point where I'm just kind of buying and building
the systems on my own, right?
And not taking sponsorship on everything.
So I went and tried to legitimately buy these for a, for a video and I'm like, I can't get
any RX based graphics card, 400 or 500 series.
Uh, and it was just like, what the heck?
So I started researching it and it seems like we've gone full circle, right?
Cause at the beginning everyone wanted less power consumption and they wanted the, I had
a camera with the, what it's actually called when they do the hashing or whatever, right?
And they wanted, um, they wanted more efficiency on that.
So they kind of started coming across with these custom built computers.
I think Jerry did a really good video about, uh, you know, the progression of Bitcoin mining.
And then I don't understand how we got back to here though.
Well, it looks like it's Ethereum mining that people are really into right now.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, um, I actually had someone internally pitching to me that we should do a Bitcoin
mining update.
And I was like, not Bitcoin, but cryptocurrency mining update.
And I was like, oh really that again?
And I didn't really look into it.
I really should have because then we could have been a little bit more, uh, more topical
on it.
It's been pretty huge.
Yeah.
But what's happening again?
Bitcoin right now, because no matter what people are mining, they're all converting
it out anyway.
So yeah, Bitcoin is equal to 3,794 Canadian dollars.
So there's a big gold rush again, basically.
Yeah.
I can try to find us dollars, which is that's one whole Bitcoin, right?
Because I think they also, you get them in bits, right?
Yes.
You get partial.
So it's 2,824 ish U S dollars per Bitcoin, which is huge.
If you can see the graph, just one BTC to USD.
So I'm going to go ahead and share that with the audience here.
Yeah.
So there you go.
The charts, you can see the big, you can see it pop up gold rush back in 2014, late 2013,
early 2014.
No, sorry.
That was mid 2014.
Yeah.
Then everything cooled off.
That was when it crossed the thousand and it was news.
And then in the last, since the end of last year, it's gone from like 500 bucks to over
2000.
And it's very close to over 3K, which is pretty insane.
Yeah.
Pretty incredible.
So once again, I've missed out.
Once again, I suck at everything, but I'm over it.
What else we got here?
PCI express 4.0 specs finalized the original articles from tech report.
And also in other news, PCI express 5.0 is announced.
So it's going to be 16 giga transfers per second on tap.
So basically we're, we're doubling it again.
So that's really important on the server side of things and less important for consumers.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess it was cool in the sense that like consumer platforms that don't have as
many PCI lanes will be able to run like, I mean, at this point, you're going to be able
to run in what a one X slot or like a, like a four X slot, what you used to be able to
run in a, hold on a second.
So that would be an eight X, a 16.
Okay, hold on a second.
You're going to be able to run in like a two X slot, which I believe does exist, but no
one implements it.
If I recall correctly, what you would have been able to run in a 16 X slot back in gen
one.
So that's, that's cool.
Right.
Pretty cool.
That's cool.
Are we excited?
Throwing stuff into big 16 X slot things.
Isn't really going to be a big difference though.
Yeah.
So it still needs to undergo a final review, but scale of one to 10 J how excited I mean,
I don't do my workflow.
Doesn't really matter that much on, on PCA throughput, but is there a timeline on that?
Well, right now it still needs a couple little things.
One big question is whether or not AMD and Intel will even bother to implement PCI e
gen four on consumer parts, which case, yeah, the timeline could be, who knows on the server
side of things though, PCI e gen five, which will double it again.
And to offer 128 gigabytes per second of total bandwidth will allow us to have 400 gigabit
per second ethernet solutions.
So our servers super sick.
That's cool.
So that's like amazing.
Yeah.
Oh, this is fun.
We're already like, we have like no contact at Samsung whatsoever because we suck.
But we saw this earlier this morning and we were like, yeah, need to get our hands on
some of that.
So when Samsung announced, I think it's a 32 by one 32 by nine, sorry, a wide aspect
ratio monitor.
Have you seen this?
Have you heard about this?
Yeah.
It's like three, four by threes.
Yeah.
That's ridiculous.
That is curved, right?
Yeah.
It is.
Yeah.
With FreeSync.
Yeah.
For gamers.
That's pretty wild.
144 Hertz, one Ms response time, HDR 10 FreeSync to quantum dot all the things, all the, all
the buzzwords.
Samsung's one of those companies where like they have world-class display technology and
just no idea.
Yeah.
Like I stopped by their booth.
I think it was like two CESs ago and they were showing off like a FreeSync monitor and
they didn't have the refresh rate and nobody in the whole booth.
I swear I asked like eight people, including like the guy who was in charge of the monitor
section knew the refresh rate.
I'm just like, you know, that's actually like the important spec for a gaming monitor right
now.
It's kind of like when I was shopping at a Fry's electronics, I hope you guys have those
up there, but Fry's is a big electronics store here in the States and I was shopping for
panels and I was looking at high refresh rate stuff and they had them all hooked up to HDMI.
So it was like not a single panel was actually displaying anything towards like what it possibly
could.
And when I tried to explain to the, to the manager of that section, I was like, you need
to put display ports on these.
He was like, no, that's HDMI.
It's fine.
It carries audio too.
I'm like, yeah.
Not the point dude.
My wife was with me on that one and even she knew more and she like doesn't care about
any of this stuff.
She was like, yeah, I don't think that's supposed to look that way.
Terrible.
All right.
Last one before we bring on Nikki V. Intel Coffee Lake CPU's delayed.
So the rumor that Intel is going to be releasing six and four core Coffee Lake processors on
their mainstream platform this year, it seems to have been quashed.
It will instead be apparently, and this is all rumors, sometime in February of 2018.
Can you imagine how much of a better position Intel would be in today if they had brought
six core before AMD launched Ryzen?
If KB Lake was six core.
I think they could have, but they got very complacent over the last decade on their,
on their own roadmap and they just kept pushing stuff off.
I think this should begin the Linus and Jay collab angry session, the angry, the anger,
the two 99 talk.
I want to, I want to say something real quick.
I took a lot of flack like, Oh, just copying Linus cause he had a viral video.
I said that day in Computex, I looked at Nick and I said, Monday, we're recording this.
We're recording my thoughts on this.
This is days before you and I ever talked about it and before your video ever went up,
the difference is you took advantage of walking in the rain, you took advantage of walking
in the rain.
You went for that whole like depressing, I'm surprised that whoever edited that video didn't
put a gray hue on there too and just make it super depressing.
But I saw that video and I was like, you son of a bitch.
But no, I, I had, I had to do it anyway.
I mean, there's so many things you can talk about, right?
I mean, I shot that video like four times cause I kept kind of dumbing it down.
I was like, I was rambling so long on that and, but there's so many things that are wrong
with that all the way down to a paywall for raid.
I mean, what the hell man?
I just, I liked that one.
I don't even know cause like I'll tell you this, like even on the server side, so I recently
rolled out an NVMe storage server, so it's got a 48 NVMe bays and I actually had some
issues with Intel's RST enterprise drivers where it's limited to maximum 12 drives.
And that was just like a tech limitation that was like a driver limitation.
It wasn't like a paywall thing.
They weren't asking for anything.
It just straight up had no way to do that.
And I actually wanted to run cheapo RSTE raid five on that high speed NAS.
And the reason for that is that I'm doing real time replication of that NAS to a separate
box.
So ultimately if I only have one drive of redundancy or it just kind of craps the bed,
I'm going to switch everybody over, we're going to be editing off the other box while
I rebuild it and get everything.
I mean, it'll be inconvenient, but it's not the end of the world.
So I couldn't do that because of like a driver limitation.
Well now I'm wondering if I'm not going to be able to do that unless I buy an expensive
dongle because if they're doing it on X299, yeah, get like two more minutes.
If they're doing it on X299, then they're probably going to do it on the server side
too.
Right?
I guess they could probably go both ways, right?
If you're already paying the enterprise solutions on the server side of things, maybe it would
be implemented.
But then again, that kind of sucks too.
I mean, because then you're talking about double standards in terms of their mentality
regarding how they want to implement and roll out this stuff.
To me, this honestly feels like they just were caught off guard by a lot of things happening
in the industry right now.
And I feel like what has kind of flipped on them a little bit is their official response
regarding Ryzen was they felt like the consumers are going to take a wait and see mentality
regarding how well they want to adopt Ryzen.
I feel like everyone jumped on Ryzen and now everyone wants to wait and see with Intel.
Yep.
Because that is such an ignorant, like why would people wait and see?
Wait and see what?
You're either building a computer or you're not.
Yeah.
And of course Ryzen, like every other new launch had some growing pains in the start,
but so did X99, you know?
And so, I mean, it's one of those things where like today, and that was a big thing I asked
a lot of the motherboard manufacturers and ODMs out there at Computex was, are things
better on Ryzen now?
And they all really assured me like, yeah, things have matured, the drivers are good,
the memory stability and support is there, compatibility is good.
And they basically were telling me like, hey, you should maybe try out Ryzen a bit again.
Because I did it for the first 30 days at launch, had a couple of weird idiosyncrasies
there, but then I just kind of moved on to my Intel system, which is already together
and I use it for work.
But I find myself now like, okay, I should probably take another crack at it, but I would
love to see the Threadripper stuff only because like, just like your workflow, it's like,
I could take advantage of all of those cores.
But even the 1800X is a good place to look at for cheap enterprise solution.
I wouldn't convert all of our editing machines over anytime soon just because like, I mean,
you know what, we're gonna have a video coming out where we roll all of our editing machines
up to 10 core 6950Xs.
And already on our early access, people are like, yo, what the heck?
Intel has new stuff.
What about Threadripper?
What about this?
What about that?
Stability is important.
And I've responded there and I'll respond proactively now to everybody else.
It is no coincidence that about six months or four months before X99 launched, all our
editing machines moved to 4960Xs on X79.
There is something to be said for something that is powerful enough and has had three
years to work out all the potential issues when you're talking about a workstation.
For what we do, maturity is way better for us than just raw power and cutting edge, bleeding
edge technology.
They call it bleeding edge for a reason.
Yeah.
And if it was for myself, no problem.
I'll run whatever random crap, beta drivers, whatever.
But if I have a room of not necessarily techie people that are going to come to me every
time there's an issue with it, no, man, like this is your 50X isn't new either.
No it's not.
We didn't upgrade immediately when it launched.
I'm doing exactly the same thing.
I'm going at the end of the platform cycle.
Yep.
And I have no problem with that.
Out of curiosity, what's your take on 6950X versus 7900K then, or excuse me, 6900K.
So any particular reason the XQ?
Because the whole upgrade was sponsored by Intel and if I can ask for anything I want,
I might as well take the 6950X.
It does perform in my benchmarking.
I did a whole video on this a while back.
Marginally better.
Got it.
Marginally.
Yeah.
X just sounds cooler.
Yeah.
That's good.
That's why they have X on all the new ones.
Anyway.
Thanks Jay.
I have to give the people what they want.
Guys, if you love Jay, then you can check him out over at youtube.com slash Jay's two
cents.
That's Jay with a Z, not to be confused with Jay Z.
That guy has a dash.
Jay's does not.
Also over on Twitter at angry tech man who's salty about stuff.
No wait.
What is your Twitter handle again?
Jay's two cents.
Right?
Yeah.
I'm cross branded properly.
Hey.
I've had enough of your crap man.
Alright.
Anyway.
So guys, go check out Jay over there.
Thanks Jay for coming on the show and I'm sorry I have to kind of kick you off.
Everyone watch episode four.
Go.
Yes.
Do that.
Alright.
Thanks for having me.
Okay.
Thanks man.
I'm just gonna hang up.
No problem.
Boop.
Alright.
So, this is it my friends.
This is your last chance for Q and A with the one, the only, Nicky Vee who has some
of his civic cake with him.
So this was a parting gift for the one and only Nicky Vee.
It's his last day today.
It's a cake in the shape of the civic.
It looks pretty good.
It's a very good recreation.
Homemade.
By Yvonne.
Homemade.
Yeah.
I have one minor detail that I can't leave out.
Yes.
These tires, these are brown and you know that the rims on that thing are orange.
I know.
I noticed, I saw in a recent picture that your civic rims are looking a little faded
these days.
I don't think we did enough coats.
The rims are a little faded.
You know, want to know something funny about the civic?
How long do you think it's been since we painted it?
It was in the spring I think.
No, I don't know.
Maybe a year and a half?
A year?
Okay.
Um, we moved in here I think two years ago.
So it's been almost two years.
That's a long time.
That car has not been washed inside or out.
Oh, I know inside.
In that time.
So if the paint were to be damaged or faded.
Wow.
It makes sense.
But you know what?
I think maybe, maybe the rims aren't fading though.
Maybe they're just covered in dirt, but how are those windshield wipers holding up?
They are most excellent.
They're most excellent.
Okay.
We got the questions rolling in.
Who is going to prank Dennis now?
Who are you handing the mantle over to?
I would say who's got the capability?
I think you have the pranking capability, but you don't have the time.
I think Colton has the time, but doesn't have the ability.
Maybe Colton, maybe he's the next prankster, but I don't know.
I think there's some people who could set up a pretty good prank.
All right.
And of course the number one question, we'll get this out of the way.
So people ask other questions, where are you going?
I am going to the Linus tech tips of biking called pink bike.com.
It's like, if you didn't know what bike, like if you weren't really a mountain biker or
anything, you probably wouldn't know about it.
But if you had stepped foot on a mountain biker, if you've ever bought one or anything
like that, it is like the hub.
It's like the, the only source.
There's other websites, but this is sort of the OG gangster ass website that started in
Calgary and then kind of like grew as the sport became a sport from nothing.
So pretty, pretty awesome.
So this is as much a question from me as anyone else.
What exactly will you be doing there?
I'll be making videos.
I'll be running around with a guy named Brett Tippie.
He's like, I would say the only person I know that is comparable in energy level to you.
I would have, I would, I would run a poll.
Like if people who know, who knew both, both people, I don't know who has more energy,
you or him.
So it would be, it would be a pretty, pretty good, a pretty good battle.
But I'll be making videos and doing some web content and stuff for them and, and you know,
all things biking, just trying to share my love of biking with the world, you know?
So I'm pretty excited.
We've got someone asking, will you collab?
Will I collab?
There's not a lot of overlap, but I don't think it's impossible.
I saw the overlap and I've seen it with my very own eyes.
Really?
It's, it would be a Taron e-bike thing of course, but e-bikes are now like, e-bikes
have always just been like kind of a laughing joke of mountain biking.
Like no, who wants to ride an e-bike?
But they're getting lighter.
Yeah, they're getting lighter and they're making them more like off-road capable.
And now there's some e-bikes that are like, somebody was explaining it, like the whole
stigma around them is that they're stupid.
They're unnecessary.
The e-bike industry involves like innovating to make people spend more money on shit that
they don't need.
Sorry, I swore on here.
But the, what am I going to do?
Fire you?
Yeah, I guess so.
You said today, Hey, you can pull the Luke on me today.
The one time I actually fire someone and it actually means anything, but they're getting
better in like the regard that somebody was, somebody explained it to me really well and
they're like, well, you know how downhill racing, Oh, I'm falling away downhill racing
and stuff is always like really intense and whatever.
But now you could have it where, you know, you're riding downhill and that's all scary
and stuff, but then you're also like really accelerating uphill, which is kind of awesome
too.
Okay.
So what's going to happen to the Nikki V character?
We've got people asking about that.
Shoot, I don't know.
Do we spoil it?
I don't know.
I don't know what happens.
I actually don't know.
Well, we do know what happens.
I know.
Things aren't looking good for him, you know, he's been, if he, if he doesn't die from,
you know, health issues from all that pain inhalation and you know, drinking sauce and,
and all these sorts of things that are just really not, you know, they're going to make
you into a healthy person.
I think he's going to suffer some serious health complications in the future, but you
know, that's just for me.
I don't know.
He probably has another opinion on that.
Let's see what else we got coming in here.
Is there a YouTube channel that Nikki V will be on?
And I think they mean Nick Van Berkel of course.
If you mean me, I'm not going to try and beat that character to death.
I've tried to keep it as minimal as like, I know there's lots of it, but it's something
that can very easily be overdone.
I'll just try to do it once in a while.
I probably won't be doing that on my channel, but if you want to see my, my personal YouTube
channel that has always existed, that you should have known about if you wanted to see
it, it's just called Berkel.
And I post a video there like probably two times a year if that, maybe once a year, maybe
I'll put some more up.
I don't know.
But like when you do videos full time for a YouTube channel, sometimes you like don't
really have time or energy to work on your own channel.
So it kind of gets neglected.
Okay.
I've got a tough one.
I'm going to put you on the spot.
Shulgan's potion asks, what is your favorite memory at LMG?
Favorite memory, probably most intense memory was that prank where you robbed the house
and because that was like five things at once.
It was, we had a good day, like actually painting the car.
This is all in the same day.
We went to line as this house at like 9am or something, started painting the car.
Then we did something else.
We played badminton or something and we ate pizza.
It was like a great summer day.
We come back and then all of this crap goes down with the, with the robbery.
And like I was, I've never been so fooled and so pranked in my life that I like, I was
like, I don't think anyone ever got you again.
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Dennis tried to get me with that Tinder prank and he almost did like the one where it was
like somebody messaging me about like, uh, like, Hey, it's blah, blah, blah from Tinder.
And then I was like, wait, I have a Tinder, but I'm very like uninvolved in the actual
conversation part.
I just literally have, it's almost like a game.
I don't use it or like I use it, but I don't like follow up.
But then I was like, what the hell?
And then immediately after I'm like closing my phone, that's when Dennis comes by with
the camera.
Like, got you.
No, you didn't, I knew this all along.
So we've got a lot of people asking about LTX and occasional guest spots and I'll kind
of jump in.
This is some, these are two things or at least one of them that we've discussed and I think
it's kind of like, um, this is an amicable breakup, but it's still a breakup.
So I don't think either side is really talking about like, you know, here, what are all the
things that we're going to do together in the future?
The door's not being closed and I don't think, I don't think anyone's saying that they would
refuse to walk through a door that was open.
We're just, we're kind of going, okay, we're going our separate ways and everything's,
everything's good.
There's cake.
It's been a hell of a ride.
It's actually crazy looking back in it because now it seems like not a long time, but then
when you think of all the things that we've done in the meantime, I'm going crazy.
There's been like years worth of the pace that we go at here.
I think is like maybe some other places like five, 10 years of work.
That's the amount of memories.
Are you expecting a slower pace?
Cause like I was, I don't know.
I've done a lot of reflecting, like I'm thinking about like Germany, like Mexico trip, which
was like hectic.
It felt like we were down there for months, but like looking back at it, there was actually
a lot of like crazy kind of fun stuff.
I do think some of the stuff is the same pace.
Like I, um, I've worked with these guys once before in California and it was really high
pace, but the one funny thing was like, because I'm so used to like the crazy, crazy turnaround
that we've had here for the last, I don't know, three years going to do something where
it's like, okay, this can be a stressful event.
You got to get like, you got to get like two videos done today.
I was like, Oh no, for all of them, I've been doing this every day for like the last three
years.
It feels like this shouldn't, this should be a breeze, but I don't know.
Everything's new challenge.
So, uh, I don't know.
Pace will probably be pretty high.
Whatever you do, you set the pace, right?
So burn myself out of that.
Oh, sorry.
Will there be a replacement editor actually?
I mean, this is something that comes down to sort of responsible business management.
You know, um, Nick had cut back to 60% earlier this year, so we had already proactively hired
an additional editor just in case.
Um, cause I mean, it's not been a secret ever that your passion is biking and snowboarding.
Um, like I remember someone, I'm not going to name any names, but someone before we hired
you said, I'm not sure how long he'll last.
His real passion is biking and snowboarding videos.
Um, I mean you came into a group where you already knew a lot of the people and they
obviously knew you fairly well.
Um, so I remember, I remember even when the job was offered, I turned it down and then
said, um, I'm not going to take this job and then you're like, you know what?
Come down.
And then I was convinced easily.
That's it?
A high five?
Yeah.
No, you're giving me a hug?
Nope.
Are we supposed to hug on WAN show?
You can hug on WAN show.
You can do anything you want on WAN show as long as there's no nip twitch nipple show
eight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or if we...
All right, buddy.
All right, dude.
Get out of here, Colton.
You're crossing the line.
People are asking what's going to happen to channel super fun.
Um, we don't know actually channel super fun.
Nick or not.
Nick has had kind of had some challenges over the last couple of years.
We don't know if it makes any sense.
Um, the entire twitch chat is cringing so hard Colton, so thank you for that.
That was the most awkward hug since like my weird uncle.
Have you ever seen me hug my wife?
I don't know.
Have a great weekend.
See you later Colton.
Um, yeah.
Well, cause it's changed so much because it was, it started out as just a side thing for
fun when there was downtime or like a side thing to try something out that didn't fit
on the other channels.
Then it kind of turned into like, Oh crap, these numbers are actually getting pretty
good.
This might be a legitimate channel.
And then like taking the different, sure.
I don't know what these are.
They're good.
Just a little piece of bacon right on.
Um, yeah, it changed so much that, you know, you don't want to keep beating something to
death if it isn't like organically growing.
So I think just maybe a different approach or whatever.
Like we've noticed that over the past little bit, but there's some good golden era channel
super fun episodes that I still love so much.
Carolina Reaper jerky.
I've eaten all of that jerky.
I'll tell you one thing.
It is delicious.
There's one of them though that like just killed the insides of me.
It's too hot.
Like you feel it like everywhere.
It just destroys your, your entire inside.
So watch out for that one.
Um, all right.
I don't seem, I don't actually see much else here.
They want you to bring Linus cat tips back.
Yeah.
I don't.
I don't use sprinkle water on that growing flower.
Getting flow.
I don't remember the last time I uploaded something there to be honest.
It's just like it's, so it comes down to when you're busy making videos for like a real
channel because the idea behind Linus cat tips was it would just be me like tooling
around at home, like playing with my cats or whatever.
And like the last thing I want to do when I have a minute to like sit down and like
cuddle with my cab is like get a camera.
Like I want to look at a camera.
Well that's been the same thing with like my, my channel.
Like I've always just put randoms, whatever project I had been working on that I needed
to put somewhere on that youtube channel of mine.
But yeah, like when you're, if you're weak consists of like shooting and editing and
when you get off work and you're like, Oh, okay, I need to go do something outside or
something like anything not related to what I've just been sitting and doing for the last,
you know, eight, nine, whatever hours.
Yeah.
It's kind of hard to like make a video at that point, but sometimes you can.
We've got people asking if you're going to make a goodbye video, if you're going to do
final touch ups on the, uh, the Lamborghini.
And to that I will say we have something special in mind as a final, as a final video.
So stay tuned.
This won't be the last time you see him, but this is the last time you'll physically be
in the building.
This is the last time I'll be live.
That's right.
I'm live.
Are you going to become a daily vlogger?
I so hope that nobody thinks that that's what I, that to me.
Like I'm like, I hope nobody thinks I'm going to like go and try and be all right now.
My main focus is my YouTube channel where I'm going to daily vlog my like, no, that's
such a sad, like spinoff thing.
I see so many people do that.
Like, I don't know, I can't, I don't know anyone's name in particular, but it's like,
and then they make the first video is like why I left Buzzfeed or whatever.
And it's like that video will probably do well because people will be like, Oh, why
did this dude leave?
Or whatever.
And then they watch it.
And then it's like, then you can't follow that up with like, Oh, this is what I ate
this morning.
And yeah, I just know that's never been my style.
Come on you guys.
Why I left Buzzfeed slash source bed.
Are we going to see that video?
Why I left Linus tech tips, all cats.
And then the thumbnail is going to be like me like this, like, no, that's no, come on.
Who wants to watch that?
People want a spoof of that.
Yeah.
That's not a terrible idea.
Somebody else can make that video, but no.
All right.
So it's after six.
And the last thing I can do for people who are officially not on the clock anymore is
keep them here after work hours.
So the last thing I have for you is a final parting gift.
A card?
Well, you might not want to read it now.
It is actually a reference letter.
Oh wow.
You already have a job.
Wow.
Thank you very much.
But I figure you might not last long at it.
Well, thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
I proactively wrote that up for you.
Thank you very much.
I think it calls for an on-camera hug Linus.
All right.
All right.
All right.
And that's getting awkward.
I wanted to keep it for just too long.
That's been a hell of a three years and I appreciate that very much.
Thanks guys for tuning in.
Thanks to you for being here and we will see you guys again next week.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
Thank y'all.