Juan in, welcome to the Juan show.
There is so much to talk about this week
that I actually had a hard time paring it down.
Oh.
It's really nice when this happens.
That is true.
Yeah, the writer was like, yeah, I don't know,
we've got this and this.
I'm like, main topic, main topic, main topic, main topic.
XQC got an alleged $100 million deal
and is no longer streaming on Twitch, now on Kik.
It's not even an exclusivity deal either.
Trucking company tries to hire truck simulator players?
Dude, reality is stranger than fiction.
What else we got here?
We have, I wanna talk about it
cause I think it's interesting.
I don't care if you guys don't think it's interesting.
Google is shutting down their domains business.
Really?
Like many, many millions of domains that are in Google
are gonna be sent over to Squarespace
and their agreements are only gonna be honored
for like 12 months.
You picked that over Twitch,
offering a 70, 30 subscriber revenue split
with major strings attached
because they cannot get a PR win to save their lives.
Yep.
And Jesus returning to Twitch via AI.
I was very surprised this was in the doc.
We'll talk about that too though, on the flip side.
No one says that.
The show is brought to you today by the Ridge,
Squarespace and SignalWire.
Let's jump right into the big Twitch topic.
They have had a really awful time of late.
Oh yeah.
The last like at least a year or two years.
Between getting their entire source code leaked
to losing major streamers to platforms like YouTube
and Kik, most recently, is he the top?
I think.
XQC.
Yeah.
I think not by subscriber count, but I think by viewership.
One of, if not their top creators, XQC
is now streaming on Kik.
Also, I mean, they just aren't helping themselves.
So the big news this week was that Twitch announced
a new partner plus program that has a 70, 30 split
in favor of streamers.
And this is on the money from paid subscriptions.
However, there are some major caveats here
that really make me question what exactly their intention
was with this program.
So first of all, streamers must have at least
350 paid subscribers.
That does not include prime subs.
And this is really weird.
It doesn't include gifted subs.
Why not?
Because gifted subs aren't recurring.
They want 350 billing agreements.
That's what this is about.
That's a hundred percent what this is about.
And that means that you're pretty serious.
But they also have a caveat in here
that you have to maintain it for three consecutive months.
So if you have enough of an active community,
or at least you have a handful of whales
that are willing to gift a bunch of subs
to people on the regular,
then why not give you the 70, 30 revenue split?
Because apparently they can afford it.
I think there would literally be,
especially considering you would get half of your money back
I think there would literally be a point in that equation
where it would be worth it
once you got to a certain subscriber count
to buy yourself up.
So I think they actually literally want
genuinely unique billing agreements
because like people could game this system super hard.
Cause there's gotta be a point where gaining that 20%
is worth spending some extra money.
But there is a limit.
There's a limit to how much people can game it
because get this, it's applicable to you
only if you break this threshold
of 350 regular paying subscribers.
And then it only sticks with you
until you do more than $100,000 in a year,
which is a lot of money.
Okay, so that's great.
Out of the first $100,000,
they're doing 70,000 to you, 30,000 to the platform.
But then after that,
they go back to the old 50, 50 agreement.
So they're basically saying,
all right, as long as you don't wanna make any less than,
okay, so what's that work out to?
So it's five a month times 350.
So that's like 1,820, let's say $2,000 a month.
Unless you're making $2,000 a month,
you're not even eligible, right?
So pretty much as long as you're making over minimum wage
and less than a middle management white collar job,
then you get a decent revenue share.
And anyone who's making less than minimum wage
doesn't get the good revenue share.
And anyone above that,
who are the biggest contributors to Twitch as a platform,
making their site actually attractive, well, they don't.
To be clear, I have no skin in this game.
I am barely even a Twitch streamer.
I talked to you guys about this recently.
We make $800 a month on Twitch.
I don't even qualify for this.
I used to make more than LTT on Twitch.
That's sad.
Cause he was basically just funding his video game habit.
It wasn't real money.
Yeah, yeah.
It's tough because so many companies
are more than happy to dive into this
and just lose a bunch of money, cough, cough, kick.
But streaming is extremely expensive.
And like the 70, 30 split,
I understand why they don't extend it to everyone.
And I understand why there's a bunch of caveats on it,
because especially when you throw in Twitch Prime,
which is something that I think a lot of people
don't really want to talk about much
because it's effectively Amazon just throwing free money
genuinely at streamers and streamers want to just take it
and then not talk about the fact
that they're receiving all this extra free money,
throw in the idea of Twitch Prime
and then the cost of streaming
and the fact that such a massive percentage
of Twitch viewers are going to not subscribe to anyone
and watch a ton of content, how expensive that is,
how much people will watch Twitch streams
on like a second monitor mode,
even more so than I would suspect something like YouTube
or some other type of content or Netflix or something,
because I know plenty of people personally
that will happily just have it as background audio.
It's radio.
Yeah.
It's radio that's really expensive to serve.
But there's video coming with it
and it's extremely expensive to serve.
So like, I understand from the platform side of things,
the economics of this being very difficult,
but Twitch is in a really rough spot right now
because their competitors are just not caring.
Yeah.
And Twitch is taking this position of like,
okay, we need to get profitable,
but the other ones are not.
Kik is doing like the opposite.
Yeah, as far as I can tell,
they are throwing money as fast as humanly possible
at creators, at their infrastructure.
I mean, this is really kind of funny,
but as far as I can tell, as far as you can tell,
Kik doesn't have infrastructure because-
Well, no, they just run off of Amazon's thing,
which is literally just Twitch.
And what's really-
So you're watching Twitch over on-
What's really hilarious about this is if I'm Amazon, okay,
and I'm looking at what's happening right now,
the dynamic between Twitch and Kik,
who do I actually want to win?
Yeah, you might literally be better off if Twitch loses.
Because Kik is gonna pay their bills,
whereas Twitch, Amazon has to pay for these like Prime-
I don't know why they ever did Prime subs.
Yeah, really rough.
That made no sense to me whatsoever at any point in time.
It's a massive benefit to the streamers,
but it's interesting to me that the streamers
are just so quick to not care about it,
which is very intriguing.
But yeah, it is quite easy, I will say.
If Kik wanted to switch off of Twitch streaming,
there's a bunch of other services
that they could use to get that done.
Right, but as far as we can tell,
they just ripped off the Twitch source code.
For their front end stuff.
Right, which Twitch runs on AWS.
Yeah.
So a big part of the reason
that they're using Amazon infrastructure
is because the code they stole.
Oh, no, no, no, it has nothing to do with that.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
How sure are you?
Pretty darn sure.
Okay.
Yep.
Because it wouldn't surprise me.
It is genuinely very plug and play what they're doing,
and they're just happening to use Amazon's solution
because it is literally Twitch,
and why wouldn't you just do that?
You know it works.
Well, it's really expensive, that's why.
Yeah, but if they just don't care about money
because they're making all their money
off of people gambling, I guess, or something, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
The whole thing is very interesting to me.
People being mad at Twitch
thinking that they're being money grubby
about this split thing that they're projecting
doesn't line up for me.
I mean, they are clawing back,
and that's something we've talked about a lot.
That's rough, yes.
That's something we've talked about a lot.
I mean, a lot of the people
that are getting this 70-30 split
already have 70-30 deals, or at least did.
They might've had it beyond 100K or whatever else.
Exactly, so it's still a clawback.
Yeah, if it's a clawback for anyone, that's rough,
because taking anything back at any point in time
is always going to be seen as a nightmare.
I'm altering the deal.
Pray I don't alter it further.
I mean, that's literally what villains do.
And it's not the user's fault, or more importantly,
it's not the partner's fault,
people who are building their careers on your platform.
It is not the partner's fault that you made a bad decision
and you signed a bad contract.
It should still be binding.
They didn't force you to give them a 70-30 split
or whatever kind of split that was negotiated at any point.
And I trash it, just to be very clear,
I trash on Twitch all the time.
I used to be actually quite a fan of Twitch
back in the hashtag bleed purple days,
all that kind of stuff.
I've completely fallen off.
But this I can sympathize with
just because they gotta make money eventually.
And it might be better, honestly, yeah,
from your perspective that you brought up earlier,
it might be better for Amazon, big daddy Amazon,
to look at this situation
and see Twitch as a technology company
because Twitch made the thing that AWS sells
as the streaming service.
Yeah, and that was ultimately what they wanted.
They wanted to own video online.
I don't think they ever gave any hoots whatsoever
if people are watching Amazon Prime Video, Twitch.tv.
The top-level domain shouldn't matter
and if you own it, shouldn't matter.
And you should just care
that you're the one that serves the video.
And if they look at that,
maybe they just kind of shrug it off and don't really care.
By the way, Kick is down right now.
So I guess they didn't pay their bill?
So much for that theory.
Again, so the stream service thing
is actually completely unrelated.
So if it was, well, they're probably hosted on AWS anyways,
but if the rest of the site could be up
and the streams could be down, but that doesn't matter.
The main front end of the site and back end of the site
is probably hosted on AWS anyways.
I haven't looked into it.
Don't really care.
But yeah, I don't know.
This sucks for any streamers
that are now making less because of this,
because that's brutal.
The fact that a platform can take your lunch is not cool.
Oh, I got it.
I got it up.
There you go.
And there's XQC.
Yeah, okay.
First stream.
Okay.
Something, something, juicer, something, 62,000 viewers.
So what's really interesting to me about that,
okay, aside from it just not working.
This is probably just it recovering from being just down.
Yep, there it goes.
Okay, well, at any rate,
what's interesting to me about that is a couple of things.
Okay, so one, that's probably a big part of the reason
they're having trouble right now.
Oh, just this massive wave of people coming from XQC.
And number two is back when Mixer brought on-
If they're gonna spend $100 million to pull them over,
maybe they should be a little bit more prepared.
I mean, those who live in glass houses.
We're fine.
Yeah, well, we've had issues.
Yeah.
At times when we could have easily anticipated the issues.
We have $100 million?
You wanna give me $100 million, Linus?
I mean.
We could do more with $100 million.
Just let me know.
We're ready.
That's fair.
Luke, you know I don't have $100 million yet.
Hey, we just got to set up crypto gambling.
We'll be fine.
Can we just be less ethical and make more money?
Honestly, like really.
Sometimes it's tempting.
It really doesn't seem like anyone cares.
Right?
Oh man.
Entire chats talking about the kick.com CEO.
They're like, yeah, he just doesn't care.
He has an $80 million house, like blah, he seems cool.
And I'm sitting here going,
you know how he got the money, right?
Gambling wasn't even legal that long ago.
It's actually a bad thing.
Do I have to be the one to say this?
It's interesting to me too,
how so many people were against gambling
being on Twitch at all.
I'm pretty sure we talked about that on WAN Show
on this set.
So like it wasn't even that long ago.
And then now a bunch of streamers and viewers
are flocking to a site powered by gambling money.
Powered by gambling where, I mean.
So like we gave Twitch this super hard time
for allowing it to happen at all.
And then the second a competitor comes up
fueled by gambling money, we're like, hey, sweet, let's go.
Let's watch over there.
It's interesting to me, but it is what it is.
People are gonna people.
Yeah, people just don't seem to care.
To be clear, we will continue to decline
any gambling related sponsorships
and all the same stuff that we've done
for all of these years we have.
Okay.
Unless you wanna play high stakes blackjack
on a float plane at LTX.
Let's go, I'm kidding.
No, I was about to say,
I don't think there's a dollar of gambling money in this,
but at some point something may have slipped through.
Like we've done sponsor deals on channels
that I am not hosting that I don't even know about.
So it's, but I really don't think so.
Healthcare, gambling, supplements,
there's a ton of money in that space,
but just man, anything people put inside their body.
So sex actually, as well as another category
that we don't really peddle in.
Anything people put inside their body.
We haven't really, well, yeah, but that's first party.
It's not.
Ah, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, I'm talking partnerships, sponsorships,
that sort of thing.
Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, no, that doesn't count, that doesn't count.
We don't peddle other people's bodies,
we just peddle our own bodies.
I mean, that's fine.
Fair enough.
What's wrong with that?
If you've got the ass-sets.
Speaking of ass-sets, can we talk about
what happened to your face?
Oh, yeah.
I know that I was one of the people who told you
that that pubic chin situation you had going on
was utterly unacceptable,
but I didn't expect you to de-age yourself 10 years.
This was a process.
This was not the goal we started there.
Oh, too short on that side now.
Okay, I'll just fix the side to, oh, too short.
Okay, I'll just even it out over.
Have some progress pictures.
Really?
Because I was sending them to my mom
because I was like, I'm making mistakes.
At what point did the lawnmower get involved?
So this is the first,
I don't know if we can show the stream,
this is the first place I stopped.
Yeah, okay, so I see the problem is
that the chin is like this.
Yes, you guys aren't gonna be able to see that very well.
But the point is, the chin is over here.
Yeah, he's got a side chin.
Yeah, yeah, so I was a little twisted
and I was finding, a lot of times with beards,
I like lines and this was very rounded everywhere,
so I was like, okay, we still gotta work on it.
And then there was a mistake with the trimmers.
Yes, there was.
Which cut too deep.
So then we ended up here.
Oh, fuck.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Okay, so that was the point at which you needed
to knock on everyone's door and let them know
that you've moved into the neighborhood, right?
I almost, I was very close to just sending it
and showing up like that with the stash.
But Emma talked me down and was like,
no, you've gotta get rid of it.
I mean, unless you guys are planning
to like make a video, upload a tape.
So yeah, and at that point, I tried to bring that down
and then I was like, okay, well now this other area
looks like it's too much, then I brought that down
and then it just ended up here and I was like,
well, okay, I guess we'll regrow from here.
So the plan is not actually necessarily to keep it here,
but this is where we ended up.
All right.
Someone's upset about my sex offender joke.
Look, if you don't think it's okay
to make fun of sex offenders.
Should have kept the stash.
Dude, yeah, Dan on the labs web team, he kind of rocks it.
It looks good on him.
I wasn't, it felt, yeah, the biggest thing for me
is like my girlfriend, Emma, looked at it and was like, nah.
So I was like, okay, we'll take it off.
If she liked it, I might've just ran with it.
No, Emma has taste.
Emma wouldn't have liked that.
Then again, she liked the pube beard.
She did, she does, if I remember correctly, no.
She just went over near the end.
I don't know, yeah.
She did say, when we went to go cut it,
she's like, yeah, it's too long.
It needs to be cut.
Yeah, well, she was right about that, so that's good.
Anywho, may I suggest that you invest
in something called a trimmer guard?
So I have done that now and it's in the car.
Cool.
Okay, well then we're good.
Man, how did you end up with a completely naked chin too?
Like what is going on?
What is this line?
What line?
I don't know.
It's like, it doesn't follow the jaw line,
but it doesn't end at the neck.
It just kind of is like in the middle.
And to be clear, like I'm not an expert
by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff.
I'm just like, I don't know, maybe kind of like this.
I wish we had a picture of the first time we cut it back
because like, I don't know.
A big part of this was all we had was a pair of scissors,
a razor, and an old beard trimmer
that like really doesn't work and doesn't have guards.
Okay, well that explains everything.
We were quite limited in the tool set, but also.
We've got people suggesting you find a full service barber.
Okay, two problems.
One, Luke is not going to get up and go there.
Two, Luke is not going to pay them.
Neither of those things are happening.
These are two major problems.
Anything Luke cannot do to himself is not happening,
unless Emma can do it to him, in which case.
Is there a topic we're supposed to be on right now?
Jesus returns.
What is this show?
Speaking of Twitch, Jesus returns to Twitch.
There's a new AI run 24 hour Twitch stream
featuring Jesus of Nazareth
answering questions and taking requests.
Such as explaining the gospel
through the metaphor of RuPaul's Drag Race
or the sermon of the mount through the metaphor
of the Taco Bell dine-in menu.
What?
Jesus looks like his typical American depiction,
also known as white, in a looped video
with an AI generated mouth transported on his face.
Some viewers have mentioned that he looks a bit like Luke,
probably me from about a week ago.
Jesus as powered by chat GPT
is an apparently sincere depiction
and its answers typically emphasize
love, kindness, and compassion.
It was briefly banned for unclear reasons
and then returned shortly after, which is on brand.
Can I just?
I actually loved that joke, by the way.
That was really good. That's joke of the stream already.
We're barely into this.
Can I just say, I actually kind of like this.
I know there's a lot of applications for,
you know, large language models, deep learning,
machine learning that have like, whoa,
a very questionable sort of ethical approach.
Okay.
And I could see people being, you know,
kind of upset by this because obviously it's literally
putting words into the mouth of their,
you know, prime religious figure or whatever.
However, however,
how do I do this without this becoming extremely spicy?
It's a minefield. It's dangerous.
I do consider it to be a significant problem.
The number of people who claim to be of a Christian
persuasion.
Okay.
Who do not seem to have really any familiarity
with what Jesus ever said about anything.
And if this is a tool that could make it more accessible
than picking up a fricking King James Bible,
very difficult, very fun fact.
We actually did a unit on the King James Bible in my like
public school, English 12 class.
Do you know why?
No, it's the most old book of all time.
Something like that. Yeah.
It was like, it was like, yeah, this is,
this is how they used to English.
Ah, because of all the changes over time.
That's a really wild subject.
Yeah. It was really cool. Anyway, anyway, the point,
the point is it's basically
indecipherable. I would say to the average, you know,
student to the average person, like it's very,
it's very dense. It's very difficult. It's there's,
there's a ton of figurative language. Like it's,
it's hard to follow along with.
And so if you could train an AI to kind of answer,
you know, real questions, obviously not the Taco Bell stuff
or whatever else, like it would be limited.
You would have to train, you'd have to train it to,
it'd have to be good. You know, it would have to not
hallucinate. I doubt that this implementation is perfect
because we don't have perfect large language models yet.
And maybe we never will.
But all I'm trying to say is I see some potential here.
And I think that there are a lot of questions that people
are asking themselves about our modern life,
that as people who claim to believe in these teachings.
You know, to reference it that way, it might be faster.
They might come to very different answers.
Until it starts hallucinating.
With an emphasis on love, kindness, and compassion
compared to if they didn't, you know,
ask a large language model that was trained on the life
and teachings of this particular figure.
I do find the one response kind of funny.
Concerning the best SMG in COD Modern Warfare 2,
while my main purpose here is to share love,
wisdom, and guidance based on my teachings and the Bible.
I can tell you that many players appreciate the UMP45
for its versatility and effectiveness in the game.
Hahahaha.
I love this. It's not perfect.
People got it to talk like a whale.
Okay, no, but that kind of makes sense if it still answers no no no that that might make sense because you could ask it
To answer in in like the you know the what is what is the blue fish and finding Nemo Dora Dory Dory?
That's the Explorer you're thinking of but close. She was exploring
When the blue fish like talks like a whale you can still understand what she's saying
Yeah, so if it still answers the question accurately like who cares?
It doesn't know you're not actually a whale. Maybe we figured out whale to English text communication
They're working on that so like who knows
Yeah, Jesus keeps up with the meta all right well at any rate a
very interesting application and one I wouldn't have thought of but one that I
Actually think is kind of cool. I mean people used to wear these bracelets right you know
Yeah, you can't ask your bracelet
This could be this could be more accessible for people who and look
I'm not taking a stance on this one way or the other that people should or
Shouldn't be interested in the teachings of this particular figure that I'm not even gonna take a stance on
Whether this figure ever existed or didn't or whatever I don't I don't know stances were taken at all
none of that is the point literally not standing actually seated the point is
If this makes these teachings more accessible to people who want the claim to actually want them
It could be a good thing
That's all
Alright
Speaking of bad things yeah, what sells Google domains to Squarespace
I don't think we're supposed to do another topic, but Dan doesn't put things on the thing way to go Dan. You're ahead of time oh
We can do merchants we can come back to Google later. Yeah, let's do it
All right, let's see what we got for you kick is apparently still down. Oh boy
Hey, lld. It's should we no no kick it. Oh, he's got jokes
Yeah, you still have the best joke of the land show. I'm not gonna beat that
Hey, lld excited to add a fine addition to my water bottle collection when you worked a customer facing role at
LCIX what were your biggest pet peeves with customers, and why I?
Hated it when people insisted on spending money on stuff that didn't make sense because they were dumb fanboys
That drove me absolutely crazy like you still got that problem. Yeah, I still have a chip on my shoulder about it. It just
It kills me in fact
We actually shot a video earlier this week where I have I went off script
I just went on this like rant about
quad FX
Okay, do you remember quad FX? Yeah?
It was in my humble opinion the single worst
consumer CPU platform of all time
The worst I challenge you name a worse one
I don't know yeah some find me something worse, and I will come up with an argument and
Okay, I'm not talking about like some Cyrix crap or whatever. I'm talking like AMD Intel mainline and
Not just obviously there was stuff that existed that was slower, but I mean for no
I knew it's time for its time name something worse, and you can't just say Celeron
Yeah, there were Celeron's that were not a great value or whatever, but there were Celeron's that were outstanding Celeron 300a was
Frickin legendary right Pentium one no Pentium one was
Awesome, you could play video games man. It was wild no no no no no no no no no no yeah
It's not about speed
It's about when it comes out at the time
Compared to everything else that is out and at the dollar value comparison and all that kind of stuff
What is its features stability those things yeah, and okay people are talking Itanium?
I said consumer though and also Itanium was trying to achieve something it was trying to
Something something 64-bit architecture or something something you know data center at least it had a purpose
What oh man people aren't people are really showing that recency bias here
X 299
Yeah, it wasn't a great value definitely not but it had a reason for existing
It was at least you know and not great value is not the same
Q6600 was legendary that was a great CPU
How could you even possibly type that out that actually like offends me weren't there a bunch of those in Scrapyard Wars?
Actually incredible what are you talking about they were relevant for so long
AMD Bulldozer was bad, but the pricing
They priced it appropriately
Eventually so you could build a budget
functional computer with it
quad FX
Drew more power at idle
Then most high-end gaming machines at the time drew under load. I don't think I've ever seen one I
Just read about them
Yeah, and I like knew to hate them and therefore none of my friends ever got one and no one that I ever knew ever
Got one and all that kind of stuff, but like I don't know if I ever actually saw one
So here's the thing the the tirade that I went on in the middle of making a video about quad FX
It's sort of the sequel to our video on skull trail where I went okay. This was a
$5,000 computer from ten years ago. How does it hold up? This was like the peak? This was the apex at the time?
What can we still do with it, and you know it kind of you know power consumption sucked
There were some things that weren't very good, but kind of held up pretty well
Quad FX was the competitor to skull trail they came out at the same time except nobody talks about it skull trail was sick
because quad FX was
Terrible yeah, and so the premise of the video is hey, it's the it's the slower dumber uglier
sequel to that video
And so I went off on this rant because it used to be that man NCIX did not
Have very good customer data protection practices
literally anyone in the company with no logging or
additional authentication required
Could look up an invoice number by number and they were sequential
Oh, yeah, so you could just key in numbers and just see invoices and with my level of access
I could look at invoices by what people bought
So like for example if I wanted the address of one of the Vancouver Canucks who regularly shopped at NCIX
I could have just gotten it
I didn't because I'm a good boy or okay if I wanted to man if sometimes I have sort of a nefarious brain I
Like to think that my moral compass it keeps me keep yourself in bound
Yeah, it keeps me keeps me on the path, but I was sitting there going you know
I bet people who buy extreme editions probably have a lot of cool in their house
Yeah, honestly, yeah
it's it surprised me that they never patched this and that no one who works there ever just like
Had that occur to them and did stuff and I was just like well whatever anyway
the point is I could I could pull up customer information very easily and
One of the things that I did on a couple of occasions not with just web orders
But with system orders because I was in charge of the systems division
one of the things that I did on a couple of occasions is I saw system invoices for quad FX I
Pull up the record
Got on the phone and tried to talk the customer out of it
More than once
Because it was so bad
Hey
I'm from NCIX, and I'm here to help
Can we find you something different can I give you something that performs better and?
costs less and is more stable and
I can't promise a better upgrade path, but I can I can promise you'll like it better
please it'll consume less power please and
There were people I couldn't talk out of it, so I once had to build a quad-fx system. It was the most
unstable
piece of
Fucking what I have that person felt afterwards knowing you had tried to talk them off the wall
That's got a rod away you because every time that your computer just sucks for whatever reason you know this person tried to contact
You and tried to save you and you said no
So you're not like you're not gonna go back and like try to get an exchange or something because like you're gonna try to like
Defend your purchasing decision. That's what people do
Cognitive dissonance man. I just got a like I will change my reality there
No my computer is good crashing once a day is fine. It's only one time
I just get off the computer when it crashes. It's okay. Yeah, it's time to go outside anyway. You can get q66 hundreds for five bucks
Oh, yeah, they're not worth anything now because they don't support modern instruction sets, but that's just crazy to me
I don't know. Yeah, we're we actually have a line of CPU fidget spinners coming
We're gonna embed bearings in the middle of them like really high quality like ceramic or like hybrid ceramic bearings and turn CPUs into fidget
Spinners we're gonna put like an aluminum frame around the outside. We're still working on on scaling production
Yeah, there's a lot of CPUs out there, and hey if they could be a fidget spinner instead of in a landfill
That's great right yeah, so the reuse
Let's go
And yes, so cheap lga 775 CPUs are one of the main targets if you were yeah
If you were trying to go for like an XP era like retro machine
There might be some hardware right now. That would be like good to pick up
It's tough. Here's the problem once you get past about Vista
Not only is the OS completely insecure to run connected to the Internet
But there's basically nothing you can do on that computer anymore that doesn't require an internet connection
So a retro Windows 98 machine or something like that
Can actually still run a lot of software you could fire up in
Carta first by the way I found out recently world book still publishes a printed encyclopedia
Yeah, one of the writers on Ars Technica wrote a whole thing they bought one
They asked for a review sample got ignored
And then they actually bought one and they were like this is cool
And then his wife made him put it in another room because it was like ugly or something anyway
That it's a good article
I enjoyed it the point is you could fire up in Carta or you could play you know point-and-click
Interactive kids games or whatever right the software was intended to run locally on the machines
I didn't never have anything to do with the internet exactly the internet was an afterthought
Yeah, but by the time we hit Vista especially Windows 7
There's basically nothing that does anything without some kind of online registration or activation or phone home
Or or like multiplayer element or whatever it is without being connected to the internet
So this is going to become more and more of a problem over the next five ten fifty twenty years
Oh, yeah, where you're gonna be able to be a massive amount of lost history. Yeah retro is
Going to become crystallized as this period of you know Windows 95 or Commodore or whatever to
Windows XP, and then there's just gonna be
the missing times
That's it everything we experienced on our computers
You'll just have to like emulate past that point is gonna be like you know maybe like archive like web archive
Shoot archive org or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah
That's it. You'll be able to see stills of
The the games people played at that time what those multiplayer maps look like or whatever else it is right?
It's kind of sad. Yeah, you know everything you're experiencing in fortnight right now your kids will never try
They will never see it better be able to yeah
It's unfortunate that you chose for tonight, but
It is what it is some people might want their kids to try fortnight remember their kids playing it now
Yeah, and that's what people have nostalgia for I'm just messing around, but yeah, yeah, I'm just messing around too
I know adults play fortnight next I judge them, but I know they do
I think you should explain the concept and maybe show off some of the ways that they can
Send a merch message. Oh
Right that's what we're supposed to talk about the things
Yeah, we should definitely talk about the things the best way to interact with the show is boom through a merch message
Not super chats not twitch bits none of that stuff you want merch messages
all you got to do is go to LTT store calm and in the
check out
Cart crap
In the cart if we're live there will be a box where you can type a merch message
It'll either be responded to by our producer Dan or it'll show up down here
if you just have a shout out for a friend or your mom or whoever else watches the WAN show and
Occasionally Dan will select one to curate and Luke and I will address your question on the show
That last one was an example of replying to a merch message and Dan is about to give us one more
But first I want to show you guys some pretty cool stuff. You can check out at LTT store calm
Oh
We've got some really good stuff this week. Okay, that's the button-up shirt
That was from either last week or a couple weeks ago. We've got the fleece line jacket. Is this a shirt?
Is it a jacket? I don't know you'll have to decide them. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, what's this?
Did we just get the jerry-rig everything razor knife back in stock?
Yes, we did and we have new colors now available in orange
along with black
Neon pink, is it that screen green clear red?
Metal all metal and blue. Yeah, the looks almost like yellow on there. It's much more orangy. Oh, yeah
That's not that representative of colors. So hopefully there's something we can do about that. It's like this. Yeah, it's very orange
It's like an LTT. It's like an LTT orange. Yes. That's exactly what it is
also this week
Do you want the maroon one or the black one? Let's go with the maroon one, okay
Maroon is your stoil. Thank you
I'm gonna do the black one
Actually, I'm gonna do a black one and a maroon one
Oh my available now in two colors and all three of our awesome
Sizes that are all priced the same because as I ranted about on the show last week
The costs are not actually that different
the big
capacitor water bottle
Dude I
Personally think this was a particularly inspired
design
I'm taking credit for this one. Sarah did a great job of bringing it to life with I think
Perfect perfect Pantone color does that not have just like an ugly
Capacitor look that's why I wanted the maroon one frickin love it. There's lots of black caps too, though. Yes
Yes, so we've got it available in the 21 ounce the 40 ounce and of course the Chungus
64 ounce most of my life actually needing to fix capacitors. I was working on these colored ones
We've got people in floatplane chat it looks boring to be honest that's underwhelming and
Then we've got the people that are like oh
My god, I need it. You would have needed to be around you know who you are
Yeah, the people who need one know who they are and they've probably already ordered it Nathan 753
I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah
It's one of those designs. It's polarizing
But you know what I've learned is that when it comes to design
Polarizing is actually good. Yeah, think about it if
100% of the world thinks it's kind of okay
Nobody's gonna buy it
But if 50% of the world thinks it's crap you just sold and 50% of the world thinks it's great
You just sold four billion units. Yeah
Polarizing yeah, it's good. Yeah, I
Mean if you don't like it. It's not like there isn't other bottle options. Yeah exactly
Where's the joke the joke?
The polarizing that was the joke we're just doing it straight-faced. Oh
Thanks, Dan
Jeez I got that reference
Love you, Dan. Okay want to hit us with another merch message sure we got one more for you here
I'm buying mysterious combo because I have trouble making choices. Do you feel the same shopping for PC hardwares?
There's too many options
I found that with laptops sometimes. Oh, yeah, I find laptops really overwhelming
There's so many variables, and it's really hard to quantify honestly
laptops are one of the ones that I'm looking at the
The the goals that we have for the lab, and I'm kind of going
This doesn't go far enough
Even if you have a compare feature that you know uses real empirical data blah blah blah blah
It's
Too much to process yeah
it's too much there's the display and the keyboard and the trackpad and the palm rejection of the trackpad and the size of the
Trackpad and the clickiness of the trackpad and the if you're holding it like this does it accidentally depress the trackpad and if
The thickness of the bezel how much does that matter to you the the weight versus the flexibility of it there
It's really it's a really difficult challenge and that even ignores the fact that every laptop body pretty much is available with
literally you know anywhere from half a dozen to
Dozens of different internal hardware configurations gonna change things that can dramatically change everything that you're measuring about them
It's really tough. I don't know the answer
Yeah, yeah, I can see that desktops. I don't really have a hard time. I mean need desktops are kind of a
It's something that I understand really well
And from my point of view once you get rid of the superfluous options there aren't
Really that many valid choices at a given price point. You know honestly. Yeah, if you're building a machine for about two grand
All right, what are my choices really? I'm either going Intel or AMD for CPU
I'm
Ideally not going for a top-tier chipset so that I can save some money for my GPU. Oh, okay
That's another decision. I need to make okay. How am I going Nvidia or AMD for my GPU I get?
The one that leaves me enough money for the amount of storage
I need and the power supply I need and then if I have any money left over I spend it on a case otherwise
I dumpster dive for one yeah
That's how I built computers for most of my life
That's pretty much it. Yeah, I have no issues with PC stuff sometimes I feel
Uninspired in the in the PC space because it's like for a long time there
It was like well if you don't want an RGB based everything there are no options
Sometimes the trends are just cry more a little well like it's just not interesting I guess but
the the wood stuff
That's a cool computer. Oh you liked that one. Yeah, I get a lot to the point where I looked into
Getting my own and then I saw the prices on some things the case is affordable the the fractal north is a
Beautiful case and at a very reasonable price point or is a wonderful case and you can also get that GPU water block for
$500 yeah, yeah, that's where things get robbed
The CPU and GPU water blocks and those fittings oh my
If you want to send it the whole way, it's really really rough. I do think they're like you made a comment
About how it's like more like partner-friendly or like other person in the house that isn't just interested in computers friendly
Yeah, like my my girlfriend's very into plants. Yep and green and stuff it would
Perfectly fit in a very public space which is not super common with computers
So I don't know pretty cool
Pretty cool all right. Why don't we do one more there Dan?
Sure thing let's see since you were able to travel again
What things did you realize you missed from trade shows and what did you not miss?
I miss seeing the people I actually missed some of my some of my old buds
I didn't manage to catch cliff from MSI unfortunately
It's trying to think I did manage to run into
I
Did manage to run into a Walter from Seasonic you know just some of some of my chums in the industry
Good old Tony from Silverstone
Yeah, there's you know there. It was it was good to see people
We managed to have a dinner with some creators
Which was less on my hit list this time around just because like
How many of those people are gonna be at LTX in a month? Yeah from that table? Yeah? Yeah?
It was nice to hang out. I'm not like it's not like you're not gonna. See them very soon
Yeah, I will see them very very soon. Yeah
Yeah, so that was really cool
You missed the food definitely missed the food. There's lots of good food in Vancouver, but it's different right you know
Somewhere else it kind of forces you out of your comfort zone. I'd say that's something I
Played a lot of badminton while I was over there. I missed that
Yeah, I'd say I'd say that's about it it was
It's good energy. You know at a trade show like that feeling of accomplishment at the end of the day
We're like yeah
We filmed like two ltt's today
And it's a miracle either of them happened at all because so much went wrong and could have gone more wrong
Like that first day when we shot the video in the gigabyte booth where we were talking about the grace super chip and grace hopper
We were supposed to be at a factory tour seeing a GPU production line
that just
completely
disintegrated
So we had to pivot and come up with something and it happened to be that gigabyte had their booth kind of set up
But not so set up that I couldn't go in and start ripping things apart
It just it just worked out that way man the number of people that watch a video like that and go yeah
It's amazing how like scripted this is
You got to just get the tinfoil hat off and you got to just take you good you got to chillax
No, we actually showed up
and we're like hey, how about this and
they were like
Love seeing his face when it boots
He's just like oh, that's the super micro one. Oh, no. I thought there's that framework. No gigabyte. I'm talking about gigabyte. Okay
No, oh, yeah, we could talk about that one
Yeah, oh, man
The number of people that thought we were sponsored by Nvidia to do that video in the gigabyte booth in video wasn't even there
They dropped off some stuff ran away
I think because they didn't want to answer any questions and potentially get in trouble and then we're just gone
They didn't pay anything if we if they did we would say it like
It is it's hard to credibly come up with conspiracy theories about what we do because we're completely
Transparent so whatever your conspiracy theory is is stupid
Because if it was true we would just tell you for better or for worse I say all kinds of stuff that I know
Sane businessperson, oh, yeah would say publicly yeah, oh
Man love it speaking of things that are stupid
Google sells Google domains to Squarespace really this is a major topic to you
It's okay fine fine fine. Do you think do you think do you think do you think all right?
Google is shutting down Google domains and
Selling its assets to Squarespace around 10 million domains will be transferred to Squarespace
After which Squarespace will honor renewal prices for 12 months, so they'll offer renewal
They'll honor renewal prices one time yes
This is likewise
this will likewise affect Google Workspace accounts attached to Google domain as
Squarespace will be taking over their billing and support services have no idea how that will go that's gonna be
interesting
this is kind of pretty wacky because a
lot of people that I know host a lot of domains with Google domains because Google domains hosts a
ton of
top level domains
cloud flare is
Everyone loves to talk about how amazing cloud flare is yeah that domain management because they are
Amazing they sell it at like cost
Very user-friendly very easy to manage you're probably doing your DNS junk there anyway
So like why not have it all in one place like yes fantastic
Except they actually have pretty
What is this? Oh?
They actually have pretty low support for a variety of top-level domains
I think why don't you talk about what support for top-level domains means okay, so
You guys are probably familiar with dot-com, but there's you know never did it dot TV
There's very potentially your your government websites is dot co dot UK for for the British
Canada's dot CA dot
There's tons of them. They're all over the place those are top-level domains cloud flare doesn't support a bunch of them
Which doesn't really on them does not support. It does not support dot CA for example so most of our dot CA domains
Hmm are hosted with Google
So we have to move them somewhere, and there's there's some other good options
But it's just like man the move for a long time was you have your Google Workspace stuff
Yeah, you have your cloud flare stuff
You host anything that can be your you have your domains that can be in cloud flare in cloud
So you just have them over there, and then your various ones that can't be in cloud flare
They just all go in Google Workspace, and it's fine. Everything's fine. This is the setup that like
Everyone that I know has been using or they just have everything in Google because they don't care about saving
Two bucks a month or two bucks a year or whatever which is like fine
It's
Also very interesting someone in full-plane chat mentioned this I was thinking about this earlier today
They dropped the dot zip and dot MOV stuff on us, and then just peaced out
See ya have fun
Jerks, but this is this is actually gonna make like a ton of work for a bunch of people
Because like Squarespace is great right we use Squarespace for a bunch of different things yeah, yeah, yeah, but if you're not
Wanting to have a Squarespace site for your domain, there's no real reason to use them no
There's there's definitely reasons to use Squarespace we use Squarespace again, but not as your domain registrar. Yeah, and
And Squarespace having a domain registrar makes a ton of sense because especially if you're not super familiar with what you're doing
Which makes sense you might be using Squarespace because of that reason
Being able to just get your domain in the process of setting up your Squarespace site is like
Perfect makes a ton of sense that they have this support
Yeah, but I don't necessarily want all of my domains shoved in there. They've had that support for a long time
Yeah, which is great. I just
So basically what they're buying is recurring revenue
Essentially literally bought recurring revenue, which is just the like most amazing thing ever
I mean look at the way that back music catalogs are being handled these days
That's exactly what it is. You're just paying you know some multiplier of the recurring revenue and
Whoever is the rights holder is now just cashes out now and lives on a yacht or whatever, you know, it strikes their fancy and
Then these these long game
Large and really they're just investment vehicles these companies
Are
Building up this this recurring revenue base that allows them, you know to eventually go IPO
It's like it's a pretty common playbook when it comes to
Just IP acquisition companies. It's and it's pretty similar to what the plan was for the company that had offered to acquire us
So I get it
There's all man, there's so many there's so many interesting
So many interesting ways to just park money and and just have it to sit and passively earn money for you
This is this is one of the things
The biggest thing that jumped out at me about this is not just that I'm annoyed that we were like
Actually standardizing and unifying our domains. Oh, I don't know two weeks ago
And now we're gonna have to do it again, which is sick. Just a bunch of wasted time, but also
We've been talking for a while about how you can't trust new Google products because they just keep shutting them down
This is not a new Google product. Yeah, they've been doing Google domains for over ten years time
So now what can you trust from Google?
And like what what writing on the wall was there that they were gonna do this
There that they were gonna do this
Like they just launched new
Tlds the dot zip and dot mov thing like they were actually doing stuff in the space
I mean they were doing stuff in the stadia space and then
Yeah, I mean, but stadia was new and also terrible. Yeah, but just because Google's doing stuff is no indication that they might
Immediately kill it this it was it was
Good, and they were like profiting off of like like cloudflare is doing it all at cost
Which is one of the reasons why everyone likes it so much
Google wasn't they were profiting off of it
It doesn't seem like it's the hardest thing to do
I know nothing about it
But it doesn't seem like it's the hardest thing to do because tons of sites just spin it up as a part of their service package
So like what's what's the play here? I?
Don't
Understand and like I'm sure I'm just miss. Sorry. I'm sure I'm just missing something but like
What what do you do when Gmail is killed yeah, I don't think Gmail is going anywhere
That's a lot of data that they can take from that
Is that it?
There's no data. They can take from it
So it's no longer core business even though
It's like an internet have like the address and phone number and contact information of all the domains because they they have a service that
Obfuscates all of that, but that means they have it on their end
Yeah, but that's not a lot of their kind of data. Yeah for sure that's boring data. That's like database
It's just it's it's really interesting to me and this this is
This feels like an acceleration of a death spiral like they've been killing all these different products this one dying
okay, the point that you just made makes a lot more sense than anything I've heard so far of
Like
Okay, so yeah, it was literally just printing money, but not a ton of it
Yeah, and not as part of their core business. Yes
So maybe it's just that but it feels very not strategic to me, but if that's the strategy
Maybe
You'll allow it
Well, I still hate it because I have more work to do now and that's not cool because I have a lot of work
See yeah, well yeah, yeah, that might actually be his job
We'll see
Maybe all right of things that have changed for
No particular reason Intel just changed their processor branding this was reported by our technica and on tech the verge
Basically everyone Intel will be changing their processor branding with the launch of meteor lake later this year
They are officially
Dropping the eye. That's right. My friends. It is no longer core. I five core
I3 now it is core. Wait. I didn't even know about the non ultra
Well, whatever we've got core three core five core seven and core ultra five core ultra seven core ultra
nine
What happened to good old-fashioned good better best
They are likewise dropping any references to generations in their advertisements
Instead adding this ultra tier to make it two tiers core and core ultra they will also
Shorten their numbering system by one digit and put the processor number after the word processor
What
What so what we had before act this is worse than I thought whoa yeah
I hate that what we had before Intel core I nine ten seven hundred K processor
Now we have Intel core ultra nine processor
1070 K oh I don't like that
That's weird
You know what it is though right, and you know who I blame for this right?
Now blame Apple oh
Have you ever tried to look up any information on an Apple product?
But why what's the benefit on an iPad have you ever tried to find out anything about a particular model of iPad?
Just as a as a normie who doesn't know that it's the late
2016
or or whatever and
I
They weren't the first to do it, but they popularized it in a way that has since
seeped out into the rest of the tech industry this this habit of
naming products in a way that is just
infinitely less Google searchable than a clear and
Obvious product part number that indicates just fucking anything
about the product itself and
Like I said Apple's not by far not the only one to do it. You know look at what razor did with the blade
What the fuck is a razor blade, I don't know it could be anywhere from
Brand new and amazing to dog slow and garbage
Don't know the first time I ever had to work on a Mac
Like I was trying to fix it and I was trying to figure out what version it was and I asked the person who owned
It what it was and they had no idea
I was immediately a little bit confused, but then I asked them and they told me the like date
And I was like that's a that's a season. That's not a model like what what model of laptop
Do you have and they're just like?
I just told you I don't know man. Yeah, it's just like oh
Man, you know what you know what really is like truly infuriating
Even Apple's not consistent about it
With the iPhone
They're like the one product that they are more successful at than literally anything else actually super structured
They clearly denote what the crap it is because it's actually really fucking important to know that
And that Mac book no no it's a MacBook it's a Mac Pro oh
You don't know exactly what fucking year your Mac Pro came out
Oh, I guess you're gonna get information on the trash can one then
It's it's it's just it's asinine. Yeah
Yeah
Dropping the I for me like sure it's maybe more efficient. I kind of liked it though
Look they went from Intel II liked that branding. They went from one ripped off naming scheme like
What what is I3 I5 I7 it's BMW
yeah, and
BMW probably stole it from someone else but
There's no creativity here, and then they've taken this thing that was already
Pretty stupid, and then they've stupid if I did more
Okay, so we we I mean I guess removing a number is fine, but why do you need to say processor?
Is the bad part that's what I was trying to kind of getting at like I kind of liked the I don't really care that
It's gone the processor move is really and taking generational branding out of the out of the marketing
Basically just means to me that they've accepted that they can't keep up with
producing new generations, so we're gonna end up with this this just soup of
numbers and letters that are
Indecipherable unless you have a like a legend and you can look up what exactly something is I mean it's it's already awful
because it used to be that I3 I5 I7 and
This is partly because Intel didn't like innovate for a long time and didn't add higher core counts and stuff
But it was for a long time I3 I5 I7 had a really clear meaning I3 was a dual core
I5 was a quad core with and didn't have hyper threading and I7 was what definitely had hyper threading and sometimes on mobile it had
Fewer processors, but it represented kind of the best that they can do and then they added core I9
It's like okay fine, then let's just keep going you know keep innovating keep building better stuff and clearly indicate
That this new thing is is more better than the last one
But now you're just gonna create an additional layer of confusion people for people where they go yeah
Well, it's a core ultra 9 so it's good right well. I don't know which one is it
It's a core ultra 9 processor, what do you mean?
What do you mean? You don't need the four digits at the end.
And you know what this isn't the only stupid branding thing Intel's done
I mean I talked about this back when they did it
But rebranding their Xeons to bronze silver gold platinum
what the crap was that because you know that no company ever wants to call something bronze or
Ever wants to call something I3 so they just create they've created these ultra
Designations so that just everything can be ultra. No. I don't think they call I3s ultras
No, not I3s I5s I7s and I9s are ultra, but that's what I mean it's almost nothing's an I3 anymore anyway
They can be ultra. I don't know I think I think yeah, they can be yeah
Yeah, I think you have an I5 not ultra and an I5 ultra
What does that even mean?
What does ultra mean do they say I don't know it's it's bad enough that I have to look at it like Xeons
Went from it being really clear what you were looking at to being utterly
Indecipherable and I have to imagine whenever I see this these days that it's completely on purpose
You know you look at the way that you know Nvidia positioned
Particularly the generation that included both RTX and GTX cards so the 20 series
You look at the way that the numbering worked
And you're just going like this is all this obviously was done to muddy the waters
I can't think of any reason other than that to do this
And it just it makes me mad because it makes this hobby
Less accessible it makes it harder for people to understand exactly what it is that they're buying or down the line maybe selling
And I don't know maybe I should maybe the the selfish part of me should be like yeah
Well, I should be thrilled that people will have no idea what their ultra 9
You know 14 whatever 12 is
And you know that way maybe I can snag a deal here and there, but it's like I don't feel that way about it
I want I want enthusiasm to be something that you don't have to study all the time
you should be able to take general rules that you've learned and apply them and
still have a decent understanding five years later because
There's some consistency there, okay, so the number has gone up this numbers gone up by five
So we've moved forward by five generations
And this is has a similar positioning to that last one like if Nvidia were to go and change
The eight in their model numbers to mean anything other than you know the apex of their products
It would be really misleading to their customers
And I would object to that it's frustrating
But you look how well it works now they can sell you
a step-down tier GPU
for the same price that they used to give you a big die and
You'll take it and be happy about it. Well. You won't be happy about it. I
Think Nvidia has a PR problem right now. Yeah, they're at an all-time high for valuation, but they're not liked
I think they have some work to do, but I I don't know how to fix it I
Wonder if that new person will be able to help
Geforce side, maybe maybe I don't know
I'll be curious to see if they have any ideas. I feel like the Geforce side is going to determine the public opinion though
That's fair
I mean even if your consumer brand isn't driving the majority of your revenue anymore because you're so focused on the data center or
Automotive or whatever other kind of technology
Most
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Really the restock Jerry rig of the Jerry rig knife is winning today
I mean they weren't the new orange one is pretty cool. You know, I don't actually know that people are going for the orange one
I'm gonna check. Hey, hold on. Hold on
Okay, I want everyone to guess before I look it up
Most popular color. I want to hear people's guesses overall
We got the new ones like 24 hours over over the over the wan show
orange black pink
green
clear red
Metal, which is actual metal not the color of metal and blue
All right, well it's I mean other than the clear one they're all metal but it's like raw metal
I really I don't know if it's the TV or what but I feel like we need new pictures of that
That looks yellow to me. Okay. Well, it's orange. Yeah, it is definitely like standard LTT orange if you're viewing
Well, I should guess too before I look
Hmm I
Feel like it's going to be orange
I
Am sending it for orange. What do you think Dan? I was leaning black for a second, but I'm going with orange
All right. I'm gonna go with clear. I think clear is just you can clear even though it didn't just launch
You think it's still gonna be the winner? Yeah, cuz we got a restock. Ah
Which I did say you had all the information. Yeah
Is our Wi-Fi broken again
Because
I can't load the dashboard you just are you on five? I don't know
I mean, it shouldn't be considering your laptop is working. That's what I switched his laptop over. Ah, very fun. I see I
Am going to go on mobile data
which is
Still not working
This is interesting scale issue
Wow
What a jerk God should we do a merch message while you do that sure
Okay, let's see what we got here. Maybe try to find one I can do
Okay, yeah sure hey lld
But mostly Luke with the progress being made in both LLM's and humanoid robots from Boston dynamics
Do you see real-life Westworld as a possibility in our lifetime?
And you've never seen Westworld. No you guys win
Orange is that over front by a country mile. God um the safety orange like dance
It's orange metal blue clear green black red pink was it a restock of all colors. I have no idea hmm
Well I've never seen Westworld
Okay, so I don't know quick quick synopsis theme park in
like old and Western times
Real humans go to the theme park to pretend to be Westerns
But all the people in the like other people in the town are actually robots
And so you can shoot them and interact with them and like have storylines and relationships with these
fake androids that behave and look like people
Got it yeah
Sure sure cuz he said he said our lifetimes so like I
I
Don't know like 50 years from now. Yeah, we'll probably have some robots. Yeah, but I don't think they're gonna be realistic in
50 years
How realistic is Westworld I've never seen it well. I mean they're just played by actors
Oh, is it very real. I mean I assume I haven't seen it either, but that would be the cheapest way to do it
That's probably why they were so lifelike because they were just literally people. Oh, no you're a robot
Yeah, oh is that like a plot twist for the show or something or is no no it's like shoot
It was it was new and like they redid it in modern times
But it was I think it was originally done in like the 70s or 80s or something like that
So they didn't have CGI, but they wanted this cool. Sci-fi thing the premise was that they were robots
They were robots, but they were so realistic that they behaved like actors. I mean people on it got it. I I
Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we were still stuck in uncanny valley to a certain degree. There's a really small
Human things that are gonna be really difficult to fully capture
yeah, and I think that by the time we have power sources and
Electronics that can be humanoid in a in a in a convincing way
Will have probably all killed each other or just like be gone our weapons will just be like amazing yeah
I
Don't see how you would reasonably power a device like that without
Some kind of nuclear power like I just I I I don't I don't understand
Does it have to keep running all the times?
Yeah, like it would unless it unless it runs from batteries batteries would have to be a completely different thing yeah
Because you can charge while you're sleeping that seems decently real sure, but you'd have to run for a day
Yeah, and unless you're unless you have some kind of you know fusion power or something
reactor inside and it few I mean look I
Was about to say right now a fusion reactor is the size of a room and barely works
And who could possibly imagine it being small enough? That's the thing cuz we're talking we're talking on the scale of 50 years
Yeah, so I have no idea I
Can't possibly know this answer
Some whiz kid who isn't born yet is gonna invent some crazy thing meanwhile twitch chat is going like
solar roadways with the power solution come on guys
Not actually they're saying that wireless charging, but still I think come on
This charging is amazing wireless charging is not a maybe you'd have to have to put it everywhere
How on earth are you gonna do that?
It's years bro. He's gonna have microwave dish arrays everywhere
Yeah, I didn't think so well
Again, I haven't seen Westworld
But if you have like the bartender guy and he lives in the bar upstairs
If all the floor had pads in it could go through his feet or something maybe yeah, it's it's a theme park
Leave it to the Imagineers at Disney. Let's go. Yeah, all right fine. Yeah, okay
I still think there's gonna be uncanny valley issues or like
Even if you somehow get past that I think there's gonna be things that can tip you off still
Even on that type of a timeline
All right hit us again. Okay. Hi all will people be able to post reviews about products on the lab site
So it depends
one of the concepts that we have for that is
Having some kind of
hardcore user
authentication so that you are a verified user and then if there was a way for us to
I don't know if we'd be able to do it through an API or if we'd be able to do it some other way
but
one of the things we'd obviously want to verify aside from your
You actual identity, which I guess we do have to use a third-party service for because I don't want to hold that data
Yeah, like basically I don't want randoms
I don't want I don't want anonymous reviews because it's too easy to game and I would want the labs website to be
Trusted so whether it's trusted through your site reputation or whether it's trusted through some kind of verification of users
Whether it's trusted through some kind of API access that we can negotiate to a new egg or something like that
Where you can enter your new egg account credentials and it can pull products. You've actually purchased so that
We can we can pull them, you know, once a quarter or whatever to make sure that you didn't just return stuff
But we can we can verify that you actually purchased something for example, you know, I don't know the right solution here
But in a perfect world, yes, we would take community feedback
I think where it'll start is people asking us to test things and where it will go from there is
finding ways for us to collect
valid
Feedback about products from the community itself and
We've had a lot of internal discussions about ways that we can do that in a
Scalable cost-effective manner and I don't think we've reached any kind of conclusion yet
Anything you wanted to add no, not really there's a lot of stuff at the lab that like
It's tough and there's a lot of ways to potentially do it. We're not really sure which one's right
There's a lot of ways to potentially screw it up. Yeah
Big true one more
Okay, hey Linus Bluetooth is frustrating do you foresee a technology move on okay
No, do you foresee a technology that will replace or compete with Bluetooth providing greater reliability and bandwidth for short-distance?
communications, I
Mean a big part of the problem with Bluetooth is the software though
Right, like it's the firmware on your device. It's the it's the software that's running on your devices like I
Running air pods on an iPhone
It's a really good experience. I was gonna say honestly, I don't think it's that bad
I think like you're kind of saying I think it's implementations
I don't think Bluetooth itself is actually that bad especially where we're currently at
There was all the versions of Bluetooth that were kind of pretty bad, but it was also a very long time
There's definitely still jankiness
Switching between devices and stuff like that is not always handled properly
But that's a very difficult thing to do. I know I'm not saying it's not I'm just I'm just saying there's definitely room for improve
I think Bluetooth gets a lot more hate than it deserves personally. I mean, there's a lot of there's a man
There's it's not like there haven't been competing standards
I mean IR was a competing standard way back when you would actually put your two devices next to each other
So they have line-of-sight and they would send zeros and ones over the airwaves
Like as light which is was pretty wild
Wi-Fi direct looked like it was gonna be a little bit. Yeah
I think it might actually have been real and it is it does do things. I mean Wi-Fi direct is how
You know Android Auto works with my car for example wireless Android Auto. I believe the controllers the the
First party Nvidia
Controllers for the shield used Wi-Fi direct if I recall well, maybe they didn't I'm pretty sure their remote does though
There are devices that do use Wi-Fi direct
but Bluetooth does a lot of things right it does a pretty good job of
hopping on to a different
frequency in order to avoid
Interference it has pretty okay range 2.4 gigahertz is a great balance of
Throughput and range. I don't see a ton of room for improvement there without a trade-off that I think people would be pretty unhappy with I
Really? I really yeah, it's just so little power these days. It's shocking. It's amazing
Actually wild the gains they've made in power reduction for Bluetooth. Yeah, that's good, man
I yeah it gets so much trash because
It's something that you actually interface with a lot
And a lot of these technologies like how you set up Wi-Fi on your phone for your house one time and then never do it
Again, like there's a lot of stuff. That's just constantly fine and Bluetooth you have to actually mess with often
The latency is awful though not
Always well, it's awful relative to a wire, but it's not awful relative to a lot of other things
That we could be using instead, but we also have implementation problems here again
Which is where like yeah some devices and some setups have
Terrible latency with it, and then you have others that have amazing latency. Yeah that are acceptable at the very least right yeah
So I don't know
You don't have to hate so much
That's all I'm saying
Unless it's about Intel new branding, then you go for it. Yeah
Alright
What do you want to talk about tell you what how about let's play a game hmm? I will give you three options and
You pick one
Okay
Trucking company tries to hire truck simulator players in game yes
What?
Okay
Trucking company Schneider
International is putting up virtual billboards in the game American truck simulator to try and recruit new
Employees there is an ongoing driver shortage due primarily to the large number of baby boomers that have been retiring post
2020 but this is also at least partially due to the fact that the median truck driver in the United States makes just
$48,000 a year
Some truck simulator players have reported liking the immersive quality of having real ads on in-game
Billboards the ads likewise do not interrupt the regular flow of gameplay
Um that is like the weirdest thing I've ever heard, but it seems kind of on brand for
For the game. I don't know why not
Okay before we go any further
your thoughts
in-game
job
Wanted ad for things that are similar to the game
I will say I like that. It's actually not
Invasive like they put it on
virtual billboards and what they mean by virtual billboards is
Billboards in the game that would have had fake ads now have real ads. It's not like they put it in your face
It's not like they did some new thing
You're driving a truck in the game there are billboards off the side of the highway
Now they have real ads so you're saying it might as well be a real ad honestly in that case like sure why not
I don't know that doesn't really bother me. There was literally a fake ad there is there is no
More ads you didn't increase the amount of ads
So I like I don't really care I don't know it doesn't bother me
You're you literally already had an ad if they started like you know how they have those real
Billboards in real life that like emit smells and stuff
What there will be like a billboard for a steakhouse and it'll emit like a steak aroma when you're driving by so that you're hungry
And you want to pull over and go to the steak. Oh, no. I'm not aware. This is the thing yeah if they started like
Delicious great dance is better. Is that gravy
Can I have more Welch's please?
Thank you
People saying what huh? Yeah, okay? Let me look this up
Yeah, are you drunk Ford? I might be was it just a billboard in front of a steakhouse
You find yourself driving down River Highway in Mooresville, North Carolina
This summer and suddenly smell a vaguely steak like odor don't worry
You're not having a stroke you're passing by the billboard for bloom a supermarket chain that is owned by Food Lion
And it emits the sound
150 billboards waft odors of grilled steak towards the road in North Carolina
This is a thing
Yeah
Okay
That makes perfect sense so if they if they started going like too far for it with it
So like what I'm saying right now is they're taking an ad that is fake
And they're replacing it with an ad that is real if that is as far as they go
Then sure if they end up making it so that like you have to oh there's an achievement to like
Stare at the billboard yeah, or click on the drive into it. Yeah something. I don't know okay, so in a simulation game
A realistic ad achievement guess you won't get hired smash your truck into the actual advertisement for the actual trucking
That sounds kind of funny. I would do it kind of entertaining
I'll probably do it too, but this is why we would be bad trucking simulator gamers because we crash our trucks
So yeah, I don't know so then it's like psych you crashed the truck you're not hired
What it man what would be kind of actually really cool
Man I don't want to give people weird ideas
Maybe this would be sick though if they had like a task
That if you completed the task to a certain level of satisfaction
It just like sent off an application
If you okay, so there's a there's like a salary baseline
But if you complete the task to a certain level of satisfaction in an x amount of tries
You like get a signing bonus or something?
Is that dystopian is that terrible I mean
Having fun with it, but I don't know if it's just like horrible
And I don't think the signing bonus is realistic given that truckers are apparently only making median income of
$48,000 a year now. Yeah, it looks like a very unforgiving job like seriously very challenging
I always thought they made good money because of how rough it was
Now people in the chat are talking about how just the the trucking unions have been decimated
Cuz like I knew when I was growing up. I did IT work for a trucker dude and like
He had money. Yeah, I don't know this is one of those things
Like it's it's like we talked about a while back that the the labor shortage is
Right in this case fairly obvious what the labor shortage problem is if you were actually paying
Adjusted for inflation trucker wages today like you were paying them back in the mid 90s. There would be no shortage of truckers
People would be like I'm a driver truck. Let's go
And that's not
Happening because you suck
So get good, I guess it's kind of all I have to say about that
Anyway the next thing we wanted to talk about in line with this topic is hey this
Obviously isn't the first time that outside organizations have bought
Pseudo-physical ad space or product placements in video games so so if trucker wages
From 1995
Inflated in line to today
They should be making around like 80k not 48. Yeah, so yeah that lines up
Okay
Should we should we have a look at some fun?
examples of
in-game product placement Luke yeah, I
Would like you to pick your favorite from the following favorite as in one that I actually think is okay
Or favorite as in like wow that's egregious, and I want to point it out um. I don't know I guess either is
fine
So first up the batteries that powered Alan wakes flashlight were specifically energizer batteries while in
Pikmin players must collect a giant
Duracell battery in order to power their ship
Let's have a look at that the the dirt this one is pretty egregious that is fairly egregious
In the Japanese version of splinter cell
Which one is it no no no hold on hold on?
Let me just get this right in the Japanese version of Metal Gear peace Walker there were
Doritos and Mountain Dew
available as pickups
Amazing I
Actually kind of like this one
So chucky
Yeah, that's misrepresented how small is solid snake yeah, I've never seen it. I've never seen a thing of Doritos that big
Enter the matrix had a somewhat out-of-place
Powerade vending machine in the game
If if it's not like a core consumable in the game or something I don't really care about that it seems fine to me
I
Like is there really value to me, and then like making some generic fake logo compared to it
Just being an actual logo. I don't really care mm-hmm. I really like this next one
Splinter cell chaos theory well, okay, I don't have to explain this one really
It
Was a product of its time
Yes, why don't we just put it that way and then this is a this is a big one. I didn't know about this
Obama's two presidential campaigns both bought billboard space in games including guitar hero 3 Madden NFL NBA live and
burnout paradise
You
So which is your favorite, what does this mean?
Um
I think the solid snake one
I'm assuming they like heal you when you pick them up
and it reminds me of like wall chicken from
A
Wow, Castlevania, so neat I'm down with it. I
Actually kind of like the Duracell back. Oh, I hate our this shit. Yeah, it's it's awful
Yeah, it's like I was like it's like. I don't know why I don't understand
Why am I brain hates that one more than the random Doritos?
Yeah, I understand that same thing I
Hate the axe one the most
That was just not
Cool like the Obama ones like oh, this is like interesting right like yeah politics
And and the world is changing and evolving the Powerade one just doesn't matter at all
The Doritos one is funny the Duracell one is it's a it's like it's it's too much. It's a novelty sized battery
It's just it's stupid. Yeah
The axe one's just like lame. Yeah
Brands have also released sponsored games
Infamously Pepsi man and Burger King's sneak king
But also the US Army's 2002 FPS America's Army, which was distributed as a free download for PC Xbox and
PlayStation the army actually released eight titles in the series including versions for mobile and arcade
The last title in the series America's Army proving grounds was released in 2013 and ended support in 2022
That is a
Support window campaign the military also created an eSports team in 2018 and still using uses gaming platforms as a major part of its
Recruiting strategy, so this is this is sort of on topic just because it brings us back around from in-game placements
to in game or in gaming
Job recruitment essentially
The Army's eSports team used to have its own twitch channel
But they left the platform after being heckled by viewers over alleged war crimes and engaging in fake giveaways
The military has apparently earmarked millions for investing in gaming related partnerships including 1 million
specifically for advertising on Twitch, which was a source of recent controversy
Oh, I guess they can solve that problem by going to kick no one will care
easy
Solution solved. Thank you for that. That's very helpful. Got it
So, okay, what if it was an army recruitment billboard would you feel any differently about it compared to a
Schneider national recruitment billboard
Well if it was like an army recruitment billboard in the try and track simulator in see that's that's the that's the
that's the thing that catches me is I think it's like actually sort of cool that there's a
trucking hiring ad in a trucking game
Do I still think it's cool if there's an America's Army recruitment ad in Cod probably not
Why I don't know I'm asking myself this and I don't know
But I also don't think I would personally care like if there was if you're if you're gunning down some highway
Quite literally I guess in this case
In in Cod and there's a billboard for
Uncle Sam like I don't really care
Hey, actually, that's an interesting one. There are a ton of shooter games with literal uncle Uncle Sam
Sign like posters on them. So this is actually a thing that has happened and I think the whole world has just not cared so I
Don't know
Because the like we want you Uncle Sam posters genuinely in tons of games
Yeah, so I don't know. I'm sure it's someone hates that deeply. I just oh yeah, Chad is is you know
Pretty clear that for them the difference is that trucking is nonviolent. Yeah, what you're recruiting people to do is
Drive a truck. Yeah deliver goods. I think I was yeah
Rather than delivering bullets
Which to be clear I I won't deny that there are legitimate reasons to do
But I think that it would be naive for people to say that they are always delivered for legitimate reasons
Which is a challenge
All right, why don't we talk about Comcast fighting fee transparency
Yes
I don't know anything about this Comcast has complained to the FCC. Oh great. Yeah, basically ISPs are dicks
Yeah, yeah always the sequel the sequel of the sequel. Here we go
number two
Comcast has complained to the FCC about an upcoming rules change that will require them to clearly disclose their prices and monthly fees on
broadband of fax
labels in an itemized list
Intended to be analogous to nutrition fax labels found on packaged food
What is happening right now according to Comcast displaying all their monthly fees will impose significant administrative burdens and unnecessary
Complexity how how bad are you? What do you mean?
Having a product label is hard is what I just read
I think the new rules are in response to a 2021 law passed by
Congress
And
passed by Congress and requires
There we go requiring ISPs to display the labels at a point of sale. The labels must disclose broadband prices
introductory rates data allowances internet speeds and
Include links to information about an ISP's network management practices and privacy policies. This is all sounds
This is actually what the government is supposed to be doing I so far love this according to Comcast though
It is working diligently to put in place the systems and processes necessary to create maintain and display the labels as required
However, it and other large ISPs must take issue with the part of the new rules that states that providers must list all
recurring monthly fees
Including all charges that providers impose at their discretion ie charges not mandated by a government what?
that
that is
You can't have us tell people what will charge them this is the most ridiculous crap
I've read a lot according to Comcast the wording of the rules is ambiguous
It doesn't seem like to me because because okay some government fees are not required to be passed on to customers
But can be passed through to customers at an ISP's discretion
So they will have to admit that they don't have to pass the fees to customer. Okay, that's good to know
Yeah
There's discretionary pass-through fees vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and ISPs would therefore need to have the different label for each jurisdiction
251 according to Comcast
Oh, no
No
You actually do just need to have transparency in your fees and I'm sorry
But like okay for an organization our size. Yes, all the different tax jurisdictions in the states are a nightmare
That's also a lot more than 251 as far as my yeah
For an organization your size
Get it has to do all these things and has to deal with all these fees
Listing them shouldn't be much of a challenge. Yeah
And this isn't the first time that we've heard corporate whining about this type of transparency the food industry made similar complaints of regulatory
Overburden and potential customer confusion when nutrition labels were first implemented
in 2003 the FTA began requiring labeling of trans fats and
By 2015 the food industry had reduced their trans fat content in food by 86%
So that's an example of how it actually works for the benefit of consumers when the government steps in and goes
Hey
actually
that thing that you've been doing is totally unethical and not okay and you're
Obviously going to keep doing it because it's very profitable to keep doing it, but you do need to stop
There are times when that does make sense. I I I have a problem with tell us right now
where I have a recurring billing set up with tell us for my internet and
They just won't bill me
and
Then they charge me late fees and interest
and I'm like
What do you mean? It's set to recurring billing. You have my card
Charge it
And they're just like no late interest
What are you doing?
I was literally considering the other day like if I want to be petty enough to just like bring them to small claims court
Because like there is literally no way that they can win this. It's like four dollars, but like
What like I just I can't imagine at any level how they think this is okay
It's just so it's just ISPs dude, I can't figure it out why you need regulation sometimes here's another example
Comcast has repeatedly had issues with customer service reps giving misleading information to customers
Which is so basically they're saying we don't want to create any documentation
Not even anything people can use internally because then people might accidentally tell people the right information
Yeah, also they were caught lying to the FCC about how much of the country they actually cover this past February apparently
Yeah, the ISPs are the classic example. Like if you're going to if you're gonna use public infrastructure, then you need public regulation
I'm sorry. That's just the way it works because you're only sort of a private entity
You're a private-public
Partnership
So you you are yeah, I'm sorry. You're subject to rules
I'm sorry, you didn't make enough billions of dollars last quarter in your stupid Monopoly
Like no, you actually do need to tell people how much money you're gonna charge them. It's very frustrating
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What else do you want to talk about oh wait is it already when after dark
We haven't even talked about the reddit API protests and the fact that literally all of Turkey was hacked
And the fact that cyber okay, I want to talk about this cyberpunk 2077
increased their system requirements
CD Projekt RED has announced that the recommended and minimum system requirements for cyberpunk 2077 will be
Increasing with the September arrival of its up comping up comping upcoming phantom liberty expansion
Which is gonna be 30 bucks. It will also be dropping support for hard drives
Though players with hard drives and the previous minimum settings should still be able to play
CD Projekt said the reason for making these changes is that updating the requirements is an important part of the game improvement process and of
enhancing and adding new
Features
So let's have a look here. Oh, shoot. I only have the new minimum
Yeah, I don't can't compare to the old one. That's a bummer. But anyway, here are the here are the new minimum requirements
So in-game graphics low core i7 6000 series or first-gen Ryzen GTX 1060 or RX 580
Okay, six gigs vram 12 gigs ram
Yeah, okay
recommended is now 12th gen core and a
seventh
Excuse me. Sorry Ryzen
7000
Wow, I mean I expected the GPU but my goodness and
Ray tracing well, yeah. Okay. Obviously this is good. Okay. This is just oh this website is
Horrible you do not need to go from a 7800 X to a 7900 X to enable ray tracing
Anywho
Yeah, that's fair. This is fair
The original minimum was a i5 3570 K
or an AMD FX 83 10 and original recommended was i7 47 90 or AMD Ryzen
33200 G this is a big upgrade. I want to talk about this because I can't actually remember too many examples of this happening
Now there are the obvious ones World of Warcraft for example saw
Significant graphical fidelity update updates. Okay, but that's a game as a server. Yeah, I can't think of any
Buy it once game that has ever had a requirements bump
I think there's got to be a ton of game as a service examples tons of different MMOs
tons of different like I wouldn't be surprised if a world of
Tanks, I wouldn't be surprised if a game like that which has been around for a long time
Now would be surprised if they had a bump at some point in time
But this is bizarre right like taking a game that someone bought and
Then going yeah, we we updated it. Sorry not sorry
It might not like run properly anymore. This would bother me a lot less if you could be selective about the patch
Yeah, oh man patch forced patches have been driving me. Absolutely crazy. I swear to you beat games is
Determined to kill the modding scene for beat saber. They just issue
pointless patch after pointless patch that just
Barely affects gameplay but breaks all the mods and we know they don't have to
Because they've added content packs in the past that don't break all the mods
I know that mods aren't officially supported and blah blah blah
You know beat games at least isn't you know going after modders and shutting them down
Which I guess technically they could do but they put a ton of
burden on on mod developers with their just
Constant tiny change tiny change tiny change time. No, no
No, just leave it the fuck alone add a few content packs and do a big patch every six months or whatever that
Nobody is asking for what you're doing. So anyway, so same thing here
yeah, if you had the ability to just
Install off the discs and run the original copy of the game
Then that would be a completely different situation and like I I don't I don't I feel like I'm coming across very amped up and angry
Right now I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna complain about upgrading the product
right
They're making it like more juicier
So that's cool. I guess but also
Man, it's a super weird precedent, right?
There's a there's a bunch of people in chat giving out examples of games that have done this but it's all
Yeah, MMOs games as a service someone pointed out Eve online. Yeah, that game is like ancient
Yeah
that would have to be updated at some point you would like actually have to because the original minimum specs would have been operating system really that
Aren't security more and stuff like like there. Yeah, a lot of these subscription games definitely have had to happen, but I
Yeah, I don't know
It's interesting I'm sure there are examples of
Games that have had this happen
But I bet you it's been more of a understandable requirement type of thing
Like hey this certain operating system that was originally listed at as a minimum spec is no is now end-of-life
Satisfactory apparently just did it recently. That's interesting. Yeah
Huh
Okay, people are talking about texture packs and stuff I'm not talking about modding though
There's a crisis to texture pack that someone brought up. I'm talking about the base game actually changing
Automatically updating and then you being forced to play it
But maybe not necessarily being able to play it very well the texture pack might not be a mod, but it's still an option
Yeah, minecraft for sure that lines up I bet you that happened
Wouldn't be surprised
I could see that affecting people a lot more than something like a cyberpunk where people already were
Realistically buying a pretty decent pewter if they wanted to run it half decently at all yeah
I wonder if I can find it minecraft top gear 1224 asks if my tycan is fixed slash has a repaired battery
No
They apparently actually do have the replacement part now, but it has been almost two months of not having that car
That's crazy. You know what car still works. You're Acura. Yeah. Yeah, I know that's nuts
You know what car is literally like always worked
What the Acura?
crazy
Yeah
You smiled when you tried launch control. It was pretty cool
You know what car can launch right now
I
Guess got him it all depends what you consider launching
It's a comfy couch on wheels. I'm okay with it
Man, I can't I'm having a hard time finding like the actual I did eventually get a courtesy car
it took a couple of weeks, but I do have a courtesy car and
The courtesy car did not probably have whatever the desired effect was because Yvonne, and I were considering
McCann for her she's always wanted an SUV and it's like I got the cool new car
I was like, oh, maybe we should probably get you something
other than you know a minivan and
We both absolutely hate the McCann
just the interior is just
cluttered
The stupid divisor it doesn't come far enough and you just get Sun in your eyes if it's coming in from the side
So this like almost like denied them a purchase. Yeah. Yeah
Because
We're still gonna check out the all-electric one when it comes, but this is not this is not a good showing for it
The gearing is really funky which obviously wouldn't affect an electric one
Like it'll it'll go from first to set it'll it'll stay in first up to like 18 kilometers an hour
And then by the time you're going like 42 it's in fourth. So it's like
Really lurchy. It's it's like it's not how I would shift and it has paddles but
Why do I what year is it?
Why do I have to use paddles? Like give me a proper manual transmission. Sure. Yeah, I'm good with that
Let's punch my phone. I'm good with that, but I don't I don't want to dink around with stupid paddles
Original minecraft specs or at least as as close as I can get to it
Which is very likely not actually original but pretty close Intel p4 or its AMD equivalent 2 gigs of RAM
Intel
For GPU Intel GMA 950 or AMD equivalent and at least 90 megabytes of hard drive space
That's minimum specs, okay. Well, that's definitely not the case anymore. Yeah
recommended specs was an Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64
4 gigs of RAM and a g4 6000 series or
ATI Radeon 9000 series with a hundred and fifty megabytes of hard drive space
You
Sorry, I'm just looking at the modern requirements
They're still pretty light. Actually. I wouldn't expect them to be too crazy, but core i3
3210. Yeah, we're like this man. These are these are friggin slow these things. Yeah, that's not great 2 gigs RAM
Yeah, I mean so wait the RAM the RAM requirement has never changed
Yeah, minimum RAM requirement has always been to get a minimum of 1 gigabyte of hard drive
So that's a lot more it was originally 90 megs. Oh, okay. That's that's fair
GeForce 400 series or Radeon 7000
That's also a decent jump considering the recommended was originally a geforce 6000 series. Oh
Wow, yeah, that's a big jump. Yeah. Yeah like a 40s or a
460 is a lot of GPU compared to a 6600 GT or something
Okay, yeah, so there are definitely precedents for this but maybe part of it is that it feels like it happened really fast
Yes, yeah, this isn't like two three years ago, right? Yeah, it does. It doesn't necessarily feel like
Like with Minecraft, it's like it kind of evolved with what is effectively a minimum spec computer
Like if you even had the original minimum spec of a Minecraft computer around I'd be like very surprised if it was still working
But the cyberpunk one like
The original min spec is still a pretty decent computer. I
Don't know and this is a good point. You can still play older versions of Minecraft
Yeah, it's cyberpunk you're locked out mind you it's been brought up that GOG apparently manages previous versions a little bit better
So I don't actually know for sure that you won't be able to play an older version of cyberpunk
Maybe that's something that will require some kind of investigation if that's possible then this is cool
All right. There's a couple more things. I want to do real quick before we do when after dark
I'd like to talk about the reddit API protests that have caused site instability
Yeah, that reddit crashed for three hours on Monday after over
8,000 subreddit switched to private or read-only mode in protest of the platform's new API fees on
Tuesday reddit CEO Steve Huffman sent out a company-wide memo down playing the user protest talk about poking the bear just utterly unnecessary
Because you know that's gonna leak it leaked to the board verge shortly after
Because of course it did and Huffman claimed in the memo that the blackout hadn't had any
Significant revenue impact and that he anticipates that it'll all the subreddits will return by Wednesday and everything will be found fine
Yes, they don't make any money
Yeah
Currently around 5,000 subreddits are still private or locked
Huffman also warned employees to be mindful of wearing reddit gear in public up. That is kind of stupid and fear-mongery
I don't think anyone was mad at like the average random reddit employee
People are mad at him
Specifically like it's not reddit employees. It's
Slash-u slash spaz like it's not it's it's pretty specific where that hate is concentrated right now
Huffman has made some pretty odd claims in the last few weeks
including apparently saying that the developer for the Apollo app tried to
Blackmail reddit and telling a journalist from the verge that the developer for the RIF app refused to talk with reddit
Both developers have shared their past communications with reddit refuting these claims
The site suffered another significant outage on Thursday afternoon and reddit sent a message to several moderators attempting to solicit mods
Who are willing to work with them to overthrow their fellow moderators and reopen the subreddits?
They seem to be getting for
For a company that's cool as a cucumber, this is not affecting our revenue
They're resorting to some pretty weird desperate stuff. There was also a post in the floatplane chat from Nicholas
have you heard about reddit restoring deleted comments of users who are leaving the platform as a way to ensure that if you
Leave and delete all your content as an act of protest
They will still keep the value of everything you posted
Like okay, here's a take that people maybe don't want to hear
I'm really surprised. They haven't been way more drastic about this
Very very surprised I'd be freaking out. It's pretty clear if anyone knows how to like raise a storm online. It's reddit
Oh, yeah, and they sure did it
Which yeah, you probably should have expected them to do because you're absolutely right. I'm like look at Wall Street bets
They like they brought down giant investment for it like that was all done on reddit
These are these are the people you know
But the what is surprising to me is that they haven't taken a way more ham-fisted approach and just been like no
We have some is actually open. Yeah, we have disabled the ability for subs that at this date
We're open to be closed right now, and maybe you make it so that newly created subs can be created in a private
state
But you can't make
The
Like subreddits with a certain amount of subscribers to them that were public you can no longer make them private or something
I'm so very surprised. They haven't done that
So when I thought plain chat said restoring comments runs afoul of multiple cyber privacy laws
Yeah, absolutely like this is this is gonna be a huge problem for them
You
Yep, I've already ran into an issue
I googled the answer to a problem I was having and it ran me into a private subreddit that sucked a lot that was
Annoying, but I think it's kind of necessary. I'm solidly on the side of the developers
Reddit has not engaged in with them in good faith developers
That's gonna get confusing developers as in the reddit is fun and Apollo developers. Yeah, right
Yeah, so basically the developers of tools that relied on reddit acting in good faith
Who are now screwed over because reddit did not act in good faith
What reddit's doing is legal, but legal is the absolute bare minimum if you have integrity
Then you should you should act in good faith and reddit hasn't they've they've lied. They've obscured they have
Yeah, like there's there is absolutely ways that they could have worked with these apps to be sustainable to keep everybody
Sustainable because if they if they just appealed to people and they were like, hey
This is the problem because it's not making money. These are real numbers. The alternative is we shut down
How do we work together to solve this? Yeah
That's a totally different situation, but it's obviously not what happened. I feel like they could have taken this insanely powerful
Often chaotic force that is the reddit user base and
actually
Harnessed it. Yeah
instead of just
Poking the bear as hard as you possibly can like this whole thing just feels incredibly
Poorly thought-out and planned and executed and everything else
So naturally reddit users have come up with creative new ways to protest our slash picks a community with 30
Million subscribers has decided that henceforth all images will be of John Oliver looking sexy
That is so random and so read it like
I
Hilarious so what just everything posted here that isn't that just gets deleted or like apparently
Very funny
Very very funny. Oh
Man, that's hilarious. Alrighty then apparently gifts did it too
Makes sense to me. It's kick.com back yet. Oh
I
Saw it start to load in and I switched to my screen and it was not. Oh my god
Our slash gifts has been renamed to gifts of John Oliver
And it's just it's it's gifs of John Oliver, yeah, perfect
Amazing
Amazing that's it. All right
I
Frankly I like it better now
I'm gonna spend more time on reddit
Good gravy, there's a lot of merge messages Dan. What have you done? Why did you send so many merge messages? Yeah, I did
Afloat plane
Very good, is there more stuff to go over Turkey? Yeah
I think that's it. Then. I think Turkey was the last one Rockstar removed a bunch of vehicles from Grand Theft Auto online
Oh, yeah, they put them in some paid thing
Yeah
They said they were lesser used vehicles to streamline the browsing experience for the shop
So players were surprised to find that 27% of the game's vehicle section was removed including popular cars like the common SR
And then that many of the cut cars have instead been rolled into a GTA plus subscriber exclusive store
lol got em GTA plus is not available on PC or legacy consoles only ps5 and Xbox series X and S
Players who had already bought one of the cars will be able to keep it and players can also spin the game's lucky wheel
Once every 24 hours for a chance to win. They newly pay walled cars
Rockstar also said that some of the removed cars might be available as part of future events. This is
terrible
Yeah, that's all I really have to say about that. I think we can all agree that
Rockstar sucks
For this they do other stuff that's good, but this
Sucks objectively and if you think it doesn't suck you're wrong
Yeah, happy to help. All right when show after dark, let's go
He's doing it he's on it. I'm gonna beat him over there
I feel like you would have won if you
Does he know the number though?
And I helped
Thank You Linus, so what it flow play chat said I've graduated middle school high school and college since GTA 5 came
There's yeah, I don't know if there's gonna be any merch messages about it, but I am
fully engaged on the hype train for a game right now in a way that I don't think I have been in like
Starfield yeah, I knew it, dude
I'm so excited. How can you let yourself get caught up in that I believe his lies
Okay, me too, but I'm not gonna try and admit it to myself. I don't care. I'm so stoked
I've been hurt so many times what with what this is this is something that I Jenny
I have honestly very often been very confused about the hate for Bethesda
Ridiculous there's a bunch of things, but when you hate the man is close online
Is there hate for that Elder Scrolls online is there hate for that and didn't it just suck you complained about
I didn't like the game
For their main my primary source about how much but it sucked for their mainline games
Yeah, horse armor
Yeah, we have Bethesda to blame, but oblivion was started it, but oblivion was a good game
I'm oblivion was a great game. It was a very fantastic. I enjoyed it. Yeah amazing game
Fallout 4 did not like it as much as Fallout 3 Fallout 4 amazing game
Still an amazing game even though. I didn't like it as much as 3
I didn't like as much as Vegas either Vegas was fantastic
Okay, I think it's gonna be great
Okay, yeah, you know what game. I have not been enjoying
Here's to the kingdom really I've only just started the building mechanics and stuff
I'm still on like the starting island and stuff
But I mean I've put a couple hours into it
Man the way that
The way that breath of the wild just sucked me in
It's it's just not there
But then I think part of it was what I talked to about before where breath of the wild was an amazing
Experience and a wonderful world to explore and I I
Dug around and climbed around and you like complete, and then I was done
Yeah, and then expansion content came out and I went no no no I think I have I think I have was closed
I think I have done this and that's fine, and then tears of the kingdom came out
And there's tons of cool stuff in it
And I you know my news feed because I was following it up till the release is still full of people who are building
Functioning cars out of you know pots and stuff like that or whatever
And I'm like our field you can build your own spaceship, and it's like that sounds really cool
but I don't have time for that and
Other than that
this is
breath of the wild and
For me. I don't have time to play every game
So if I only have time to play some games
It's gonna be hot do I play breath of the wild too, or do I play slapshot rebound yeah?
Yeah
something different a new experience
The best most accurate hockey simulator of all time also known as slapshot rebound Luke
And I have been a little bit enamored with this game lately it is
Really really really frustrated
It's kind of great though
To be clear I'm not saying that tears of the kingdom is a bad game by any stretch of the imagination
When I say that a game is breath of the wild but like better and more and whatever
expanded
Breath of the wild is if I'm being honest with myself probably my favorite game of all time. I just
Completed it yeah, and that's okay. You can just be done with things yeah like there's
There's a bunch of stuff like that. I don't know that's fine
you
Please remind your user base to not pre-order. I mean sure it just doesn't matter there. There's no like I
Will be less defeated some other day, and I'm sure I'll champion it more, but there's the like don't buy microtransactions in games
because you will literally ruin an entire section of gaming called mobile gaming if you do so and
The whole Internet's just not gonna care at all
Diablo immortal is gonna come out, and we're all gonna be like hey don't buy any of the microtransactions
And then they'll make tens of millions of dollars a day because people will be like no screw you
I'm gonna burn my money like I just so at a certain point. It's like
Okay
Don't don't don't pre-order ha ha ha they're gonna do it anyways. They don't care
What's the point I
Don't know what would disappoint me more if my kids bought a microtransaction or brought home like a dumb, so I
Want them to not be shallow it's not how do you define how do you define?
Microtransaction I I mean
Okay, I I should I should clarify. I think for a free-to-play game
Where we're talking cosmetic benefits, and you spend a
Reasonable box game price on some stuff that you think is kind of cool or whatever
You know it's your money. I've done. I've done developer supporting
Microtransactions for sure however however
There there's I think that while the line is blurry. There's certainly
Areas that are clearly over it where we've gone past what makes sense
And what is reasonable and into what doesn't make sense and isn't reasonable yeah?
Yeah, like I've I played the crap out of rocket league and when I bought rocket league
It was like four dollars or something so part way through my vast amount of playing rocket league
I was like you know I probably owe them a little bit more than the like
$4 that I spent on this game
So I bought I think it was a couple battle passes or something
There is also way back in the days to play a ton of League of Legends
It was a free game, so I like bought like two skins or something yeah
I don't think anyone would say that that's totally unreasonable
Yeah, but then when you pay like full fat price for some game, and then also dip into the store a bunch
It's like
I
Yeah, it's it's the triple. It's the triple dipping right like if you have a
That sees a season pass you so you have to buy the game you see you have a season's pass
monthly subscription additional things that you can buy and it's like
Come on. Yeah come on
Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. Yeah loot boxes. Yeah, loot boxes are clearly over my line if you don't know what you're buying
Then you haven't bought something you've gambled
That's it. It's bad. That's very that's very clear. I think that's a really clear line to draw. That's thank you
That's a radio active in floatplane chat. Yeah, thanks for being a smart whale
Well I subscribe to floatplane there are whales yeah, thanks whales you can't really whale out on floatplane to be fair
We should add whale tears. Why don't we have whale tears go for it I?
Mean do you want to be the one to extract a whale tear that sounds like a lot of work?
You still have the best joke of the show that I don't remember what it was
But it was amazing something about Jesus rising again or something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah when Jesus got banned from twitch and came back
It's on yeah, yeah, oh, oh
best best joke of the month at least
I
Maybe the year I
Liked it. I thought it was very good if you guys can find a better wan show joke I I will be impressed
Alright, what else we got going on. Oh great. We need oh my goodness. We need to do some rich messages
We got to get out of here. It's a dark. Yeah
Let's see we've got a lot of curated ones if you guys want to be going through potential okay
Before you go
Porto in floatplane chat just linked me a PCM our tweet
Which I can I can share my screen
But joke there we go most of steam's recent top sellers are games that haven't been
Released or have any independent reviews out yet also known as the top one that is a game being
Starfield what's the point?
Why do we even bother
Who cares
Some expansion for cyberpunk that's not out yet
F1 there's no reviews for it. I don't know if it's out yet or not other games that aren't out yet
These are the top sellers games that aren't out yet are the top sellers
There has been a campaign for years to get people to stop pre-ordering and almost all of the top sellers
Are games that are not out yet
Just one star feel to be good. I'll be at the top. I'll be at the bottom of the potentials
Okay, Luke. Do you want to start at the top? I will go at the top all right. Let's get to it is
labs going to be the only first-party information that is tested in-house or
If there is data that you can't test that is already out there. Would you include that data on the website?
Hmm
Going to be only first-party information list oh
If there's data that you can't test that is already out there, would you include that oh I see okay
Yeah
so that kind of comes back to a question someone asked earlier about whether we would allow users to submit their own reviews because
You know from my point of view part of a user submitting a review could be submitting some form of data
And obviously we wouldn't be able to take something like game FPS because it would be collected in a non-controlled
Environment with variables that up the butt right like we can't we can't deal with that
but there are
Potential pieces of data that we could potentially take from users. I think what you're asking though is whether we would
So anyway, which we would want to try to find a way to do that in a verified way
But I think what you're asking is if there is third-party data
That is just generally available on the web, but would we include that?
Again
The same challenges where if we're not the ones running the tests we have no control over the test parameters
And we don't know if we can trust it so that was that's pretty tough. That's not really aligned with our vision
And the bigger issue is that we'd have to find
Outlets that would want to give us permission for it like I think a really good example of something that we would have wanted to
do is all of the
Reviews and data collected by DP review over the years which shut down recently we would have we would have loved to host that but I
don't think Amazon probably had any interest in selling it or they or they would have so it's just
disappeared forever
You know
You
Hi all do you expect game linked to be a direct competitor to currently existing games news channels such as game ranks Friday
News show how will you guys differentiate well one of the ways?
We can differentiate is by I've never even heard of that channel, which isn't to say they're not a game ranks
Yeah, yeah, I mean. I'm sure they're a big channel in a big deal
Yeah
I just I there I don't know anything about that so if we just do our own thing
Then probably what we do will be different
Because it's hard to copy someone else's wheel when you're over here inventing your own wheel
little corner by yourself I
mean
from my point of view
The benefit of game linked is gonna be that it's the the linked crew right like it's it's our unique spin on what we think
Is important what we think is cool the way we do stuff our humor
Yeah, it's it's it's our way of doing things and so if you guys like that then you like that and if you like game
Ranked and game ranks excuse me
Then you like game ranks
And you watch that like I I think there's an enormous audience, and I I don't think that this is a zero-sum game
It's come to my attention that
There has been some some word
going around at a recent trade show that Linus Media Group is somehow in the business of
Stamping out smaller content creators, and I just I feel like that is such a an utterly
Brain-dead take that I just don't even really know how to respond to it other than to say that that is an utterly brain-dead
take
You know on the one hand and game ranks will be fine. Yeah, that's it. That's exactly it
Absolutely there are so many eyeballs out there. There is so much
Advertising money out there there is absolutely no shortage for high quality
Original kinds of ways to make money for high quality original content, so if your concern is
Competition then I consider that to be a very anti consumer take
You should want competition
We should all want to push each other to do better, and that's something that I've been saying for many years has never changed
Obviously we're over here trying to compete
But we're competing in the sense that we're trying to make better higher quality content all the time
That's a good thing and if you object to that why?
So you can phone it in and no one will like do it better well
That's stupid you should be constantly trying to do it better
Which I would wholeheartedly encourage you to do and I'm gonna be constantly trying to do it better
Which you should wholeheartedly encourage me to do so we can hold each other accountable. That's competition. That's good for the viewer
That's good for the consumer, and if you disagree
You it's that simple
Yeah, and game ranks is like awesome, and they'll be completely fine. Yeah, I'm sure we will eat zero percentage of their pie
Because like so when you're full plane chat said don't just watch both sweet it sounds good. Yeah, that's great
Hey deal if I'm interested in a game. Oh here. He goes like starfield an upcoming game
You're gonna get hurt. I'm gonna watch both of them. I'm gonna get hurt
It's gonna be
Not what anybody expects it happens so often. I don't want to be having a mainline game. They have ever released. I have loved
Yeah, same. I expect this to be the same. I'm on the hype train with you. Yeah, so like what's the I don't know
Yeah, I didn't like 76 wasn't a mainline game. I didn't like ESO when it launched. I've heard it's better now
I don't know. I don't really care rationalize me daddy. How though every mainline game that release has been good
How do you combat that?
I'm trying to stop my heart getting ruined
All right, let's move on we got to jump off this cliff together Dan
All right deal hey DLL. I'm making Linus and Luke EU commissioners. Are there any tech companies?
What I don't know did I write it did I read that right?
Commissioners yeah, are there any are there any tech companies that you would want broken up or forced to make their proprietary open?
their proprietary open or
Open in order to order to foster more competition. I'm sorry. Yeah, I hope you okay. I'm caught up painful um good job Dan
anyway
Tech companies we want broken up or forced to make their proprietary solutions open
Well the thing is I'm not
Broken up
Probably the most influential hyper proprietary company these days would be Apple
And
It's like I man it's tough because you look at things like I think RCS versus iMessage is a really good example of how
You know Apple users will look at iMessage and the the path that Apple has forged with iMessage and go well
This is clearly better
And that's good, and you know what you're not wrong
It is it is better than SMS in particular, and it might even be better than RCS
But Apple could also be collaborative with the rest of the industry and make everything better, but they don't Apple specifically makes
Their stuff better, and if it degrades the experience for others well, haha. You should have bought an iPhone
It's it's sort of a crappy attitude
I
I
Don't know that I would force them though, I don't really I don't really know if you can force that I think you just have to
Tell consumers that they should just use something else and that won't work, and then we'll be left with this
Yeah, I don't I don't think I would want to force them to do that
Let's see if anyone has any interesting suggestions
Hey, lld. I mean okay. No no glad I'm a USA long-haul driver
My company is looking at enforcing AI driver-facing dash cams. I am concerned about privacy
What are some topics I can bring up to make sure the data is safe? I think the best way
Man, this is a tough one
AI driver-facing dash cams your privacy is fucked
Because
statistically the reason they want them is to monitor attentiveness to monitor
you know being on task during the job or you know whatever else there's there's all these reasons that they're gonna monitor them and
All the reasons all the motivations that they have to monitor them would be
Not fulfilled if they were to do this in a way that correctly manages your privacy
Like if they if for example all the data was stored locally and only pulled in the event that they needed to review something
By pulling it you know out of your truck physically
But then you know they're gonna say well
We can't do that because then you know if something bad happened
And you wanted to maliciously destroy the evidence
Then you would have access to it before we would and we can't have that and I see their point right because you know if
There's an at-fault you know accident or something like that
They don't want to give you an opportunity to destroy that evidence, right?
That's their liability, and that's you know that's their that's their right to be concerned about that
But that means that your data is probably not going to be stored properly
That's tough. I don't have I don't have a good answer
I
Mean you could go like yeah, you could go
Trevor W. Go and convince all the other drivers to vandalize their cameras. They can't fire all of you
I mean that yeah, it's some old-school union tactics. I mean
Yeah Trevor's not really wrong I
Mean I I would personally not advocate for the destruction of anyone's property
however
You know I if you really don't want that camera in your cabin
I'd say that's about the only way that you are going to get anyone's attention
Like I get it I totally get it I
Get why they want to do it and in fact some of why they want to do it might even be to enforce safety
Safety protocols right making sure that you're not driving too much in a way
That's not only unsafe to you, but unsafe to other people on the road like I I completely get it
But
It ain't taking care of your privacy yeah
It's kind of weird too because like where's where's the line because a bunch of these people sleep in their trucks right?
Cuz like one one generally not in the driver's seat
But yeah one reaction that I first had was like tons of people are on camera when they're on shift
People a lot of people here on camera when they're I'm on camera right now
Yeah, and not even not even that one no like I'm probably a security camera somewhere like there's there's actually cameras all over the place
There's a huge amount of the workforce
That's on camera 100% of the time, but it feels like more invasive to be in the cab of
One of those trucks especially if it's one of the long haul ones that you're gonna spend a lot of time not on shift in
Yeah, I mean we don't put a camera right on the top of someone's monitor
We just have cameras sort of generally in the space so that we can
Okay, if I'm remote and
The building's not armed. I could be like isn't in there. No okay. I'm the building right
That's why we have the cameras in the bathroom to make sure that we don't accidentally miss anybody
Really yeah, that was gonna take that long to register Wow I was reading so you doing okay?
Slash s slash s
Yeah
I don't know then the future is weird some of it sucks. Hey DLL. Good morning from Ireland
Linus when your kids get older if they wish to become more involved in home videos and allow their names to be published
Would you let them?
Yeah, I mean I think my son's getting pretty close to the age where realistically most of his friends know what his dad does and
You know he doesn't have like in-person anonymity anymore
I think that it's the kind of thing that I
Wouldn't want to push it super hard like if he wanted to start making videos. I think I would I would support that I
Don't know it's it's it's it's tough. I would definitely
Want to kind of coach him through it. I think there's things that I did in my career that I
Would go back and undo
I think I would spend a lot less time sort of sharing random personal thoughts often poorly
Formulated and even more poorly articulated on social media for example
You know these days. I mostly just let the content kind of speak for itself
I think that's a much healthier place to be and I would strongly encourage my my my kids to take a similar approach obviously
You know I'm just their stupid dad or whatever at the end of the day
Even if I do happen to be an expert in the field they're gonna do whatever the they want because they're kids
But at least you can kind of try and guide it that way
That's tough
Fortunately it hasn't really come up lately because I've actually told him that he can start a channel if he wants
but there are some prerequisites that he has to hit in order to do it and
He's just been kind of too lazy about it, and I intentionally set the bar kind of high so
That's where we're at right now. We're stable
Hey, lld data transfer is the main cost for a streaming platform
Would a peer-to-peer protocol make it viable for a company like floatplane to compete with the casinos and be Giants?
None of those have really ever been great to be honest
I
Didn't hear the entire thing but
P2p video streaming yeah p2p or or like crypto chain stuff. They've always had some
some issues
So I don't know I haven't seen a solution in that space that has been good enough yet in my opinion
Maybe it'll happen someday float chain
Good name
Hey Linus you have talked about privateering a lot on the wan show
Do you ever worry about a large media company coming after you legally and using things you have said on the show against you?
not really because
You know whenever we talk about privacy or whenever we show copyrighted content on camera
We are at least cognizant of fair use law
Which is applicable in our jurisdiction also?
You
Know I'm I'm pretty careful to
To talk about sort of my approach to ethical piracy. You know I yeah, I will shamelessly
Download a ripped copy of tears of the kingdom and use that and I will shamelessly
Download a ripped firmware file or whatever else as long as I own a Nintendo switch. I bought two
As long as I own a copy of tears of the kingdom bought two by accident
Long story we needed one for a shoot, and then it turned out we are like already someone else
But anyway, it doesn't matter the point is I own that I'll play it on an ROG ally
If I feel like it or I'll play it on my desktop if I feel like it at the end of the day
Nintendo got their money
Which is what makes the world go around and I think they would be
They would be absolutely crazy to go after me for something like this as a legitimate user who's not
Showing other people how to do it who's not distributing any of this content
But who has just decided that they're
Ancient stupid handheld is ancient, and I don't feel like playing games at 30 FPS
I
Don't know I mean a company like Nintendo you never know
But I I think in most cases the the PR L that they're gonna end up taking going after
someone like me who is
Really, not the problem the problem is people who aren't giving them money, right?
I I just I I don't I don't see it happening
Hi, I'm not a challenge by the way
Hi when a DLL do you have any thoughts on the writers strike especially regarding its concerns with AI
Do you think a LMG will rely less on human writers and more on AI in the future?
Yeah
Absolutely I mean I think that
As a business right now
You you've got to have a death wish if you're not looking at machine learning large language models AI
Whatever it is that you want to call it and trying to figure out how to build that into your workflow. I think that upcoming
Vertical
Specific channels might have episodes that are in almost entirely written by AI and then edited by a writer
So we just hand it a labs datasheet and basically say go
you know write a summary in this style and
Those videos are super formulaic like realistically okay power supplies right the b450m and b550m and b650m
You know you might get a human who sits down and talks through the b-series
Or something like that, but if our goal is to have a dedicated video for basically every product so you can get
Just fundamental information about it by just entering a part number into a YouTube search
We're not realistically going to be able to do that without some degree of automation, so yeah
I think it's absolutely going to be part of the plan
Is
Luke a Lord of the Rings fan yes do DLL have any thoughts our hot takes on
remaking IPs and expanding cinematic universes oh I
Don't think that it's a particularly hot take to say that
Any IP that is based on the
magnum opus of
You know a generational talent that then deviates
from the original content is bound to be dog shit
I have not even thought about watching the new Lord of the Rings stuff. I don't know if it's good
I don't know if it's bad. I don't care. I have no interest
This is like this is like what you're talking about earlier with Breath of the Wild
You're like I loved Breath of the Wild. It's very possibly my favorite game of all time and
I don't necessarily desire for more. It was good. It's done. I watched the Lord of the Rings movies. They were amazing
They had a very large impact on my family in particular
We had posters of them all over the place the Hobbit is what got me into reading. I didn't like reading and
Then my I think was my mom started reading the Hobbit to me. It's Pennsylvania. I didn't
Because I didn't like I didn't like reading at the time and I was like well
This is really cool, and then I got into the Hobbit. I got into Lord of the Rings
I got into the Harry Potter books back then all these other different types of things
really big for my family and
It's good. It can sit there in its little wrapped with a bow on it package and never really be touched
Well the thing like the Star Wars stuff. I'm just ignoring that there's any new ones at this point
Yeah, well the thing here the thing you're figuring out is that it's just branding
Yeah, at the end of the day some new Lord of the Rings won't be Lord of the Rings
It'll be some it's a licensed IP
and it's some entirely new thing written by someone who didn't write Lord of the Rings and
Does probably doesn't fully understand it again. I I haven't watched rings of power
I don't really care to I'm not as into Lord of the Rings as he is even like I haven't even made it through the books
I've tried quite a few times. I
It's gotta be because the Tolkien estate won't allow it or something like I would read an abridged Lord of the Rings trilogy
Like if someone could just definitely a little like if someone could cut out the bullshit that everyone knows is bullshit
Then I would definitely sit down and read them my buddy, and I used to watch gladiator surprisingly often
Yeah, but we were just skipped all the fight scenes
Gladiators an example of a film that actually has a ton of utterly unnecessary content. I agree. It's an amazing movie, but
It's it. Yeah. I don't know that
That's not the only kind of movie you and your buddy skipped around to different scenes
That's how you watch movies
a
Lord of the Rings books definitely
They they were written for a time where people had a much larger longer attention span
I think that's what's going on
There's also some weird stuff if you if you've only watched the movies going back and reading the books
There's some stuff that didn't go into the movies that is that is odd to say the least
Tom Bombadil literally at all that's just like that's where I stop every time Tom Bombadil
Yeah, because I I just like I have OCD and I have to read the whole book
I can't just actually skip a bunch of chapters of a book. That's not how my brain works, and I just
I'm so bored. This is so creepy
Transforms into an animal or something
What is happening right now, I don't know I can't do this yeah, yeah, yeah
Anyways moving on
Hello, Dan at all
Question for Luke and Linus. What is a feature in cars that you thought was stupid before you tried and now cannot live without?
Um oh wow cannot live without it's tough
I recently downgraded my vehicle from a Porsche Taycan turbo s
To a Chevy Volt, so I was driving the volt for the first
Almost three weeks actually I was driving it for a while after because I don't like the McCann
And I just kept driving the volt
But then logistics got mad at me because technically the volt belongs to the company now so I have to give it back yeah
but I I went from a turbo a Taycan turbo s to a Chevy Volt and
Probably the biggest noticeable change was that I really liked having my leather steering wheel back
Like yeah, obviously it doesn't accelerate as fast like I just
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't mean it doesn't
Meaningfully change my life and so for me to say cannot live without
Air conditioning you know like upgrading the Civic to the volt
But you'd have to part of the question was that you like disliked it at first or something right? Oh, right?
Oh, yeah, I've always liked air-conditioning. Yeah, there's literally nothing for me. I
Also still have a car from like
Initially, okay, I've got something I initially disliked power windows
Really, I was like that's stupid. This is far more reliable, and then what I learned
Is that actually the mechanical ones are not very reliable?
Yeah, and now I prefer power windows, but I still hate
utterly unnecessary
like electronic door mechanisms
Like on the the on my 2016 Honda Odyssey it just it makes me angry every single time
this should just be a latch and it should just have an
Electronic lock like every other door on this car. Why is it an electronic mechanism for the latch?
That makes no sense to me and ours actually broke, so it was like
Validating this is unreliable. This is stupid my personal anecdotal experience is more important than whatever
Engineering reasons they had for implementing it this way
Yeah, slash s. I'm just gonna do that from now on because people can't tell
It's not a bad idea
Hey deal LTT content. Oh no. I have another one
Cameras I hated backup cameras really yeah the one and the one on the Volt is
Amazing the one on my Odyssey was it like an elitist thing go on
I don't need this the one on the Taycan sucks. It was well. I wouldn't describe it as elitist
But I definitely didn't need it. I still don't need is that why you didn't like it though
Well, just have it or was it because the like quality was bad or something. What was the reason? I just didn't need it
Yes, it was elitist thing. It's not elitist
it
So that because you didn't need it that made you dislike it. Yeah, I just thought it was stupid not necessary
It's like just added cost like why did I pay for this okay? That's fair. Yeah, all right
But the one on the Volt is awesome
It shows you exactly where the like the outer wall of your tire will go isn't the one on yours your car like I can
Sorry, I cannot even it's so bad them how bad it is. It's so odd
Yeah, just like the camera angles stupid the lines aren't where the car goes
It's it's it is it's very barn blowing how bad it is when my stupid Chevy that cost like a fifth as much
It is perfect
Yeah
Hey DLL LDD content has been a topic of lunch table discussions at multiple big tech companies
I've worked in what industry or product have you actually felt were impacted by your videos?
I
Often we don't know yeah those discussions take place like you said internally and the feedback
Often doesn't doesn't make its way back to us
You know I feel I feel like my investment in framework has been impactful
It was really cool seeing their factory seeing them actually making these machines that are gonna go to
Actual people who actually care about the mission like that's really cool, but they're not a big company
There I've been very surprised by the the people
Not not necessarily this. I think this one was more talking about products and companies
but
Companies are made up of people and people make products, so I'm I'm extrapolating
I don't know if it's fair, but I've been very surprised at the people that seem to have been impacted by our content
Like those those dudes down at NASA
Like it just it seems so
High level yeah, I guess like wow you're way smarter than me. Yeah, why do you listen to anything? I have to say yep
Oh because you spend all your time doing like smart guy
And you don't have time to pay attention to this thing that I spend all my time doing
Cool yeah, yeah, but it's still just like it's still like I I get it, but it's still just it's surprising
It's kind of cool
You
Hi DLL listening to the WAN show helps me get through work
Pretty Spotify listener. What's the biggest misstep you made getting LTT to where it is now?
And how have you stopped it from happening again?
I don't know we've made some we've made some HR mistakes over the years
We're gonna keep making them
People are messy you know that's that's not a knock against them if people weren't if everyone wasn't different the world would be a really
Boring place, but you know it's it's hard to get it's hard to get two people aligned on everything
Now try and get a hundred people aligned on everything. It's not gonna happen right so
everyone's got their own agenda, and that's not a bad thing it just
It's just a challenging thing and so yeah, I'd say HR is the thing that we have and will continue to do most wrong
Hi, lld just curious on the like to dislike ratio on the n64 unboxing did the predicted backlash manifest itself in any
quantitative manner
That's a really good question. I doubt it because it didn't end up being a sealed
N64 if it had been I think people would have been pretty upset I
Was really glad it was actually not
It was not my decision. It was a decision made by dbrand or rather
D brand was too cheap to buy a sealed one because it was like 16 grand or something like that
But they made the decision to not send any sealed inbox ones
And I'm extremely glad that they did because that would have been pretty bad
Engagements engagement tab so hard to just find basic stats these days
No, 98% like dislike ratio people seem to generally like that video. That's above average for that channel
Love what you guys do keep up the amazing work now for the question if you've heard of it thoughts on the Porsches
Synthetic fuel do you think it will ever be viable on a large scale being not an engineer?
It's impossible for me to say I mean there are there are things that exist today that I would have said will never happen
I mean microprocessor
Come on. You manufacture something that small impossible right and yet here
We are you know I don't I don't know if they're going to be able to manufacture at the kind of scale that we can
pump you know
Dinosaurs out of the ground yes, I know it's not actually broken down dinosaurs
That's debunked, but that doesn't matter the point is oil
You know I know I I I it doesn't look feasible to me
But I never would have thought that you could pump petroleum at the rate that they do today
so you know what do I know it's obviously going to take time, but
It's clear that there are problems with electrification that do need to be solved and whether it's hydrogen fuel cell or whether it's alternative fuels
I
Hope I hope we can get there
Whether it's alternative anode and cathode materials
You know that's another option or far more recyclable batteries, so we can kind of keep reusing them
the way that we're going right now is
Not good. I just don't know the answer
Hey Linus, how is your Epson LS 12,000 holding up?
I'm waiting on mine to come in as I build my home theater, but I've heard some quality control issues
Mine's been good
I can't speak to any quality control issues because that inherently would affect a subset of units
But mine has been really solid I absolutely
Love that thing the only reason that I would look past it is if I could get something quieter, and it's not loud
it's quiet and for a projector, but I
had aimed to have that room be like silent and
The projectors like right above you and so even a quiet fan is still you know it's it's going there
So if I could get like like a micro LED display or something like that in the future. I would I'd be super into that
LDL I'm really happy with performance and don't care about ray tracing how many generations is AMD from being able to beat?
Nvidia in a 1490
Class card is being the strong value second the goal
Yeah, it's impossible to say it all comes down to AMD strategy right like there
There's been they've gone all there up and all over the place over the years when it comes to GPU
It's obvious they really want to compete in
Data center right now like they just released a new Radeon instinct. That's like super beefy or whatever else
But there have been times when they're consumer focused, and they don't even have a high-end
They're just kind of like oh yeah
You just get more of the low-end ones like back when they did the 3870 or with Polaris the rx up 480 and 580
there have been times when they've gone hard after top tier like they did with the our
Our
X to 90 series, I guess it was whatever Hawaii codename, Hawaii
I don't know. They're all over the place. They might not even do a high-end GPU next generation for all I know
I mean, I don't work at AMD, right
Yeah hard to say I'd be surprised if next-gen they don't have something with 40 90 performance, but I've been surprised before
Is
There sorry, it's like IT guy and floatplane chat asks why haven't we seen a mark Rober collab yet?
You haven't yet, I know mark he's a super cool guy, and we do have something coming
Is there anything about LTX that has everyone sweating
Everything LTX is super stressful time for us. There's a lot of work to do
There's a lot to go wrong if we absolutely nail it, you know, everyone will talk about what a great event
It was but if we screw something up
Then everyone will talk about that one thing we screwed up. So it's just it's a ton of pressure
Yeah, I think we're I think the biggest thing we're sweating is is everyone gonna have fun
Is there gonna be enough to do and we're working hard on that? Guess what? I
Have achieved my goal that I've had since the first LTX
There is a dunk tank
Do you volunteer as tribute? I'm done. Of course. All right, let's go. It's for charity. Oh beautiful. Yeah
So I think better to be BC Children's I was in when I thought it was for nothing. But yeah, that's cool
Nothing. It would be for I was gonna charge for
It's for the products it's for the charity of Linus media group incorporated we got a lab to build
I
DL and young Luke
It's currently 5 a.m
Where I live and I'm up with my three-month-old your voices have always helped to soothe him
How old were you when you got into tech and what piqued your interest? Oh
Very young I don't know and it was definitely my dad like unquestionably my dad
Um
Yeah, I don't know so so young that I definitely don't remember and my dad just having this unending curiosity for tech stuff
Is what did it for me?
Hey DLL just started a new job and the IT department asked me to DM them my
Single sign-on password. What is the most egregious security breach you've seen in your careers?
I
Had the same reaction
Wow, I keep having to do that for Linus and it's getting really irritating
What oh
Just him DMing me his passwords and me putting them in keeper forum
Oh, I mean that's I never DM do a password. No. No, it's never happened here
Oh as far as I know, but she's the IT department asking that like maybe the other way around
Like did you hear the question? What?
Restate the question. Oh, I just started a new job. What? Oh
That's really stupid. Oh, sorry. Okay. I
Was really focused on what's the most egregious and then I was hiding because I was expecting it to be something I did. Oh
Yeah, once not at all security stuff
I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, it probably is something Linus did
I mean, was it literally last wan show you just like streamed an internal document and
Also literally shared the thing that that internal document that should never be shared had a thing on it saying not to share
But how cool was it to see the in progress labs website?
The people love it. They love me. I give them what they want. But yeah, I don't know but I
Probably the most egregious egregious security things I have personally dealt with or probably from him
But I don't know I'm not sure but that's hilarious and
That IT person needs to
Go through some retraining or something. I don't know
Mm-hmm. Hi DLL Linus the CPU fidget spinner chat earlier got me thinking
Would you consider doing a program where people can send in their own old CPUs to be turned into a fidget spinner
Given that part of the goal is reduce reuse recycle, etc. Etc. I don't think that we would be looking to
Generate the kind of carbon emissions that would result from sending a particular old
CPU, you know halfway around the world and then back I just I just don't think it makes any sense
We can get a different old CPU that happens to already be here or a shipped in bulk and you'll be happy with that
On the topic of mark rober mark rober just spoke at my graduation it got me thinking
Would you ever consider being a graduation speaker for a college or university?
My actually my high school brought up the possibility
They brought me in to give a little talk to some of the students at like a parent dinner night thing
It was really fun. Actually, it was cool
I I I went I went off script and talked about how school is not the only path
You know, it's just like hey
That's so that's very Linus of you that makes it but they the the administration actually loved it and said that you know
Asked if I would be interested in speaking at their at their at their graduation this year
It's June 16th, and they haven't brought it up again. So clearly I'm not doing that. But yeah, I mean, it's the kind of thing
I don't mind I don't mind public speaking
I I kind of like it actually and it was it was pretty fun to talk about something different
One of the things that the business team has been trying to get me onto is like the the like the talk
Circuit like speaker circuit. We've had a few offers like very generous offers
Like thank you very much. If you know anyone from these organizations is watching, but we just haven't found anything that really
you know makes
Sense
For me, you know, one of them was like like an IT security conference or something like that
And I'm just looking at it going. This is not my wheelhouse
You know on the subject of that recent merch message like I you know
I'd love to talk about you know something to do with whether it's influencer marketing or man
I'd love to talk about something to do with sort of consumer the importance of consumer trust and building it and how how
brands destroy themselves by eroding the
Their trust like look look how how much trust did you have an Amazon ten years ago?
How much trust do you have an Amazon today? Yeah, like basically they've gone from yeah
Amazon will always do the right thing to Amazon doesn't give two hoots about the right thing and screw those guys
Right like that that doesn't happen by accident that happens that happens
Methodically carefully over time that that trust gets eroded and it's the wrong kind of methodical the wrong kind of careful
You're you're carefully trying to
You know abuse people just the right amount in just the right way
And I think it sucks right so
if the right thing came along if it was something I really wanted to talk about then I
Would I would be really interested in it
But the other thing is that it has to make financial sense and having me out of office for three days
One day travel one day event one day travel back
That's a really high opportunity cost a lot of what we do still kind of runs on
Linus's sheer dragon energy these days and it's something that we want to improve but
If you don't apply for that writer position, you know, then it's harder, right?
I've done a few of those
I actually find them kind of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of trolled the crap out of one of my previous
educational
Institutions. Oh, that's fun because they they sent me a thing saying that they wanted me to like headline some
Alumni event thing as like a speaker and I was like, yeah, I left I
Just I sent them an email back being like I mean I'm down
But I am not technically even a part of the thing that you're talking about
Yeah, and I I don't remember I think they responded on any member what it was
But I didn't end up doing it for whatever reason
But I've done quite a few of those types of things
Hello Luke and Linus actually, this is mostly a Linus question
But whatever happened to the gaming minivan
It's back
We're working on it. The writer that was working on that project is no longer here. And
So it's just been kind of in writing limbo
And so my stupid van is only sort of half converted to a gaming minivan, but it's coming
We have a plan
I think MSI is gonna be sponsoring it and we're gonna use laptops for the for the systems
But we're gonna come up with like cool monitor mounts and we're gonna get the batteries in there
The solar panels are on which didn't happen in time for the video. So that'll be a cool update for part two
Really hear them on the highway
Not as aerodynamic as it once was that minivan anywho
Yes, it's coming and I think
For bonus points we're gonna try and get the works anywhere like business class star link so that you can be gaming
online from anywhere
I'm pretty stoked
Hello Linus, would you rather get a Cod Damascus sink or toilet?
Sink
Gotta be the sink. I like that. I like the water kind of like, you know
Washing down and like, you know with the with the the folded steel look, you know, I'm into it
Luke and Linus when you hang out from work
Are you able to keep the conversation away from work? And if so, do you have any tips to keep?
Conversation away from office things. Oh
Man, oh man, I did the worst. I wouldn't even call it passive-aggressive
It was just active-aggressive
At the retreat no. Oh, oh, what was that that you just not engaging with work conversations and sitting on the ally I
Was talking though, yeah, I was installing games for when we were gonna play games later you fuck
You enjoyed the games. We found mage quit. It was great. Yeah
Researching a player party games and I was installing them were very often saying I don't want to do work stuff right now
And then we'd be like I have to talk about quarterly whatever that I did fine. Yeah that I did
Yeah, but when I was on the ally, I was still listening. I was just idly like installing games and stuff. It was fine. I was engaged
No, that's not what I'm talking I'm talking about at our at our work badminton night
We had someone just
There are also like randoms just in the badminton community who come because they know people who know people and you know
Whatever anyway, so we have guests as well as as well as work people because we can't always fill it with work people
and one of them is
I think works at a tech company locally and you know knows knows of us and
Anyway
Started to talk to me about you know, potentially, you know covering the stuff there and I'm like, I'm not working right now
And they're just like, okay
well, like
You know, I was just thinking yeah. Sorry. I'm really not working right now
Extremely not working right now. I've decided to be more direct with people and there's like times you have to be
So how do I am like you reach out to the email address on our website and they're like, okay, but
I'm really just not working right now
Yeah
Yeah, so the the like
You really shouldn't have to be but a lot of people it sounds like in this case
It was like this a lot of people just aren't gonna take the hint. So you just have to be really direct
Yeah, it just is what it is. Yeah, that was definitely the vibe I got super nice person
Just want to be very clear. It's nothing personal. I
Just wasn't working at that time. I'm not working right now. Yeah. I'm just here so I don't get fined feel free to
Talk to me about work when I am working
I'll even say the same thing to be bond. Sometimes I'm like, okay you get one more work thing
We'll talk about work stuff, but usually it's short. Yeah, and it's like not
Yeah, it's not super laborous work stuff if that makes sense, yeah, yeah
Hi
Linus and team I work in engineering education and saw the videos of you and Dustin learning about the Saturn 5
I was wondering what still sticks out to you from that experience good or bad Oh chatting with Luke was amazing the not you
Better Luke. It usually is the one who like worked on a rocket. It's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm okay with that being better
That was super cool
Hi big fan of the new house series
Of all the smart vocation you've added to your home. What has been the biggest quality of life improvement for you and your family. I
Like not having to turn off lights
the smart lights suck and there's a lot of problems with the implementation, but just
Like when my hands are full and I'm walking in from the garage just
Walking in and not worrying about it because the lights will just turn off in a bit
I actually really like and so I do want to figure out how to make it more better
The blinds I have done literally nothing with yet though most of them aren't even adopted by the controller yet
Hi, lld what happens to items that are returned will there be an ltd returns calm
If they are still in brand new condition they are sold so we do we do sort them
We don't just throw them in a dumpster. Do you see that? Do you see that article recently?
850 billion dollars is wasted to returns now. It's up like by double since 2020
Yeah, just online returns just being this like enormous just waste of everything and incredible
Anyway, yes, we do go through things and if it's in brand new condition
Then we'll resell it and I think that if it's not it actually goes in a bin for staff
Don't quote me on that though. I know that there's something we don't throw things away. That's really stupid
First time wan show watcher and orderer keep it up LTT with the labs review suggestions
Would you accept sponsored product reviews ie a company or user donation to get a product tested?
Okay, so I got to stop you right there
Um
Hold on
Okay, here it is
there is no such thing as a sponsored product review a
product review is conducted independently a
sponsored video is conducted in collaboration with the
Manufacturer or the marketer of the product there is a very very clear and
Perpetual line between those things it cannot be sponsored and a review can be a sponsored video
sponsored showcase sponsored unboxing
Cannot be a sponsored review so
No
However, if a company wanted us to test something for their own information because they really like our testing lab or whatever else
I think that is something that the lab would like to work towards being able to offer as a service
It will not be a review I
Hope that kind of clears that up
Hi Linus wanted to know your thoughts on Wendover's recent video showing nebula now worth 150 million and
Have more than six hundred and fifty thousand paid subs. Do you think their business model might be something floatplane adopts?
I don't think so. It's never what floatplane was created to do
and
Yeah, you know you've got to give a lot of credit to the team there they have
They've managed to they've managed to really build. I think a really clever vertically integrated
services company like the the integration between standard and nebula is something that is
Pretty neat and has a lot of value for a lot of creators
What I will say is you know from my experience dealing with them and from my position as a creator
It doesn't have a lot of value and I've talked with other creators for whom it didn't have a lot of value
Not every creator stays on nebula you might have noticed that so I think there's a certain style of creator
I think there's a certain size of creator
I think there's a certain personality of creator that works really well with what they've built over there
and there's certain ones that don't and
Yeah, you can't you can't knock it. They've they've done a really good job. They've built a really successful business
I saw that my speculation that you know maybe they were trying to
sort of add subscriber count to
You know to look for the exit hat is apparently not true, so you know that's that's good. I'm really glad to hear that I
Don't really understand what the motivation was aside from that so that's
That's
Tough because you know as far as I can tell it didn't really raise a significant amount of money
Given the amount that they spend on advertising and stuff these days, so I'm okay, but sure
But apparently it's it's not to just you know do subscriber counts for an exit, so that's cool
Yeah, I yeah
I don't really know what else there is to say about it if I think that if our incoming CEO looked at the technology of
Floatplane and said you know hey
You guys should
You guys should apply this to
You know a sorry pick up fast
Yeah, yeah, float plate. Yeah. Yeah pick up float plane as a service. You know you know every
Fitness guru or whatever who's trying to sell video courses or whatever you know hosting it on
Hosting it on float plane as a service or whatever else it is we have really cool technology
We suck at marketing and packaging it. I'm not gonna deny that we've always been kind of tech heads at heart
And I've learned some business stuff begrudgingly over the years, but I have no doubt that you know here
We we are we are also
This like crazily vertically integrated company compared to what a lot of other influencers are doing
I mean we have everything we have our own accounting our accounting department is five six people now our HR department is
Is
Two
Plus like it's kind of it's a little bit. It's a little bit fuzzy sort of who's in what department
I mean our sales team. Oh, Dan Dan the alarm our sales team is is like half a dozen people
We have you know
Dedicated graphic designers who work on thumbnails who work on merch designs
we have a team of like over a dozen video editors like we're a
It's kind of incredible the breadth of things that we do here, I think a lot of people don't really realize that they look at
The the videos and think oh, yeah, okay, so they have what they have editors. They have writers
they have hosts, but no it's it's it's a pretty deep organization now and
I look at it, and I go hey
Why is it that all of these departments only serve Linus media group why does our sales team not do deals for?
Other people like we actually we know all the brands we know all the creators
Why don't we act as an agency in a lot of cases? It's because
The opportunity cost of working for another creator is really high compared to just working for ourselves
But in some cases like creator warehouse. I'm looking at it going like yeah, why why why don't we design?
T-shirts and water bottles and stuff for other creators. There's absolutely no reason that we couldn't do that
I
Don't know we're just really busy. Yeah, we we do have literally too much to do already
Yeah, so adding a bunch more stuff to it is like
We got to pick our battles, right?
Yeah, yeah, it's I I don't know. I don't know there's I
Look at what standard and nebula have done, and I kind of go
Yeah, if I if I was if I was a better business mind
We have literally all the pieces
Thumbnails sales development literal video streaming platform like
Yeah, there's no reason we couldn't build something like that. I just
The tech head that's not gonna apologize for it, and we've done all right doing that too like it's been a good path
Yeah, like I can't really look at that other path and go gee. I sure wish I'd gone down that path
This is a great path. I like our path worked out really good
Cuz we make other stuff, too
Hey technically the majority of the developers under the floatplane umbrella do not work on full plane calm
Yeah, they do all kinds of cool stuff like especially for the store
We've got some really cool tools coming being able to pick
Exactly what bits you want when you order a bit set rather than just ordering packs. That's coming
It's gonna take a while, but it's coming the dev work on that's done
There's a lot of other problems to solve yeah, yeah the actual like real-world physical implementation of like
How do we actually like make sure we get all the right?
Hey, lld ltt store question what items took the longest or shortest time from initial thought to item available on the ltt store
We always take a really long time to do stuff, but I'm gonna look I'm gonna look at it
Oh, you know what my guess was the jerry-rigged everything razor knife. We basically went hey Zach
Can we carry your knife and he was like I guess wait was the question shortest. I thought it was longest shortest
Both it was both. Oh, I mean longest is the screwdriver obviously, but yeah
Wow oh the not to additions been announced yes, you can sign up for notifications now to colorways oh
Oh, yeah, I guess we haven't talked about that on wan show yeah register email
Yeah, I I have a Noctua related question actually sure hit me while I think about this with the news really fast
But it's just a design on a water bottle. Okay. Sorry. I'm listening with the new Noctua screwdrivers
Can we expect an ltt back collab with Noctua?
What collab?
Black back collab like they're gonna do an LTT product. Well. They've done that before I
Don't think we're doing another round of that anytime soon, but I mean you know we could the fans right
That was a super weird company, and I mean that in the you know most kind we like them. Yeah, yeah
They're it's it's definitely weird though
It's like when you have a really good friend that you've known for a long time
You're just like you know what you're pretty fucking weird. You know like this
I
Feel like there's something behind that
No, they're just yeah, they're super weird companies
So just the way they do things is not like other companies do things and yeah, I gotta respect that right like they just
they just they do their thing and
so
When we've done product collabs
We've never done it in a long-term way like they don't do a fatality power supply line, and then just like
Roll with that forever. They they do their thing. I'm like yeah cool. I respect it
LLD what's a cool application of new technology that clearly wasn't intended use case, but it just fit perfectly
I read this and I ended up curating this because I couldn't think of one on the spot
But I swear I've ran into this before
Using stuff not what it's for
There's got to be a good answer to this, but I couldn't think of something I
Mean there's got to be a lot of things with phones like I don't think anyone imagined using your phone as a level
And it doesn't work very well, but it's something yeah, yeah
Yeah
Clearly wasn't the intended use case
I
Just got a notification from my eight sleep bed that it's preparing my bed for sleep little does it know
Poor eight sleep
Never stood a chance. Oh
speaking of
People who might be in bed. Hey mr.. Nick light. You are live on the wan show
Okay, oh did I did I catch you at a bad time?
Yeah, okay my sincerest and most
Fake apologies if I if I did catch you at a bad time. No. No, it's a good thing though. It's a good thing
Maxwell see asks first time catching the live stream after years of watching the show
Have you ever considered any tie-dye color options for any of your clothing or towels?
Where did you put them?
Oh
In the other building
Would you like me to make a field trip should I show the real one
Is it worth going over there
Oh is it yeah, uh-oh
I
Thought this was like a bigger reveal than I guess it is we have this listed
Wait, I think
Yeah, we announced this on wan show like weeks ago goodness
Okay, so basically as
Long as people
Have a $10 tier floatplane subscription
They can buy the ltx exclusive tie-dye hoodie and t-shirt then right
Yeah, got it got it, okay
Okay
Sounds good. Thank you
Okay, got it got it got it got it got it got it. Okay. Bye
I will never go home. I will always do my show forever. Okay. Yep. So yes, then they look awesome
I love them these so the ltx exclusive t-shirt and hoodie are in this sick
red blue purple black tie-dye that is amazing and
We fixed it today I approved the shirt material like four months ago or whatever and it was perfect
And then we got our production samples and they sucked
They were like stiff and awful and we got the new samples that are back to the original material today and productions
Going ahead. So everything's gonna be okay. Nice. People are saying and Linus is losing it
He also announced the Noctua screwdriver. Yes, but what I didn't announce is that there's a sign-up sheet
So the sign-up sheet is new on the site
Hey Linus been loving the screwdriver ever thought about doing signed merch or anything related to exclusive items
Yeah, we've done Lambo Edition stuff like pink and green limited edition 69 units only stuff like that and we've signed stuff like that
I
Don't know for me. I
Don't want to do too much of it. I think is is the big one a it's hard on my wrist and B
I
Don't know it
It just seems like if you do it too much it cheapens it I guess like I'd prefer to sign things where people
Find me in person at ltx. I
I don't actually like signing things that much outside of you know
Where I'm supposed to be signing things in case you were getting any clever ideas
I will because you've put me in a position where if I say no
I'm risking seeming like a complete asshole on reddit when you post about it later
But what a stuck-up jerk I was and I wouldn't sign anything. So I always will but
you know if I'm
eating dinner with my family I
Think the most
the most respectful thing to do if you must approach someone in public is
Have your camera open have your finger on the camera button
Say
Hey, do you mind if I grab a quick selfie go like this and immediately leave?
Don't fumble with the camera. Don't hand it off. Don't don't look for someone else to hand it off to
Don't get one in
Landscape then another one in portrait
Just just take a picture
document
the memory and
Then be like hey, thanks and leave that's
That is the perfect a-plus way to do it in my humble opinion
Like I I'm not trying to be a jerk about it just sometimes I'm legitimately having private time
I'm not working or I am legitimately working really intensely
So when I'm somewhere like compute X and you can literally with your own two functioning eyes
See that I'm in the middle of a conversation
Interrupting is rude because interrupting is always rude. It doesn't matter if I'm a public figure and you really want to take a picture
It's rude if you can see that I am walking somewhere
Intently like with purpose I'm walking fast. My camera operator is encumbered with a whole bunch of equipment
Don't stop us for like 45 seconds while you figure out how to operate the camera app on your phone
It's the longer you interrupt for the more route. It is. It's kind of what I'm trying to say
Hi lld when we get an option to send in merch messages when we make merch purchases on the ltx website
Additionally, do you have an updated timeline on when a schedule will be made available?
Hmm
I
Delt that's something we're gonna invest development time in. I'm very sorry
And the schedule will be available as soon as we are able
We actually had some creators reach out with a super cool idea for a panel that I don't know if it'll actually happen
But man if it happens I'm stoked
Hey lld just like Apple in their presentations never using AR VR or AI
Switching them with spatial computer in an ML does LMG writing have any such banned words
You just can't use in videos
so
We've tried to ban some things but we got lazy about it. Basically we wanted to ban AI because it's not AI
It's machine learning. We wanted to ban pricing that ends in 99
But it's just really inconvenient because it's not technically accurate to say that the price of Apple's new headset is
$3,500. It's actually $34.99. That's how much it actually is whether we like that or not
We also do all our pricing with 99s because it works. I
Just don't care because it's a factual fact that that's the price and I whatever
Yeah, we've tried at times but I can't think of any that we've actually been successful at because it's just a lot of
We have enough things to remember when we're trying to make a good video
It's tough
What are your thoughts on the gigabyte not RMA in GPUs with cracked PCBs as a result of GPU sag pressure? Oh
This is something I meant to look into after I saw Rossman's video about it. If that's the case that sucks
But I have not looked into it. I don't know how widespread the issue is
I'm afraid I just don't really have much to contribute to this one and I don't want to risk saying something that's wrong
Traveling solo from California to LTX. Is there an official looking for group forum or post for other people attending alone?
I want to make friends, but I'm shy
Post on the forum Linus tech tips calm. That's where you want to be. Yep
Earlier you mentioned that you had set prerequisites for your son if he wanted to create a YouTube channel
Could you please mention the goals you set and the reasons for making those goals?
Yeah, the goal that I set was that he had to learn basic video editing and edit the videos himself
I'm not gonna just hand him an editing team to take whatever crap it is that he produces and
You know do all the work for him and he spent a little bit of time on it
But just he didn't have the interest in actually doing the work and if you don't have the interest in actually doing the work
Then I don't think handing you a prepackaged solution is going to teach you anything
Meaningful about how to succeed in life. And so I basically said, okay. Well, this is on you. What did he want to make?
He actually made a couple of videos one fully and one kind of part way that are just like little science explainers
Which I think would be pretty cool. Yeah, because anything that also encourages you to learn while you are explaining is
really beneficial
This is basically my job I should show them some tools
as a
fairly
Your menace as a fairly new father year and a half old to a baby girl
What is your favorite least favorite Father's Day gift? You've gotten thus far
Anything I just like Father's Day to be completely ignored for me leave me alone and give me some peace for a change
That's what I want for Father's Day
And I never get that and I never actually expect that and it's delightful when my kids, you know
Make me crap that I then have to stealthily throw away while they're not looking
you know, I
Love I love that my kids want to do it, but it's it's it really is the thought that counts
I do not want more material things
Don't
Mind me just buying Father's Day gifts question any updates on LTT coasters
They're dead. We couldn't figure out a packaging solution for them for the weight that
Was environmentally friendly and also kept them protected you you basically need foam and I didn't want to ship
Like glass around the world glass and foam. It just felt really stupid. So we killed it
A question for Linus, what racket string and tension do you use and what stringing machine do you have at home?
Uh-oh. I have one from gamma. It's a something or other I splurged hard
That was actually before I had the kind of money that I should buy something that stupid
Hold on let's see if I can find it. Anyway, I use BG 80s and I
I
string at 25 27
Yeah, I the one that I have oh is it a I
Don't know. It's an older one, but it's kind of it's kind of like this
Kind of like that it's an electronic tensioning one and
Basically feature similar to to this one and that's that's about what I paid for it less a little bit less
Maybe like 5k Canadian or something like that far back in the days
I was like, no, I'll like string for other people and I'll you know
I'll string my racket so often that it'll like pay for itself. Yeah. Yeah, that was stupid. That's very dumb
We're all allowed to make mistakes once in a while, right?
Last one I've got here for the curated line as you've mentioned you support Children's Hospital, which is awesome
I do the same but I'd suggest also Surrey Memorial who are trying to get more children's facilities, but have far less money
Sure, I mean
Hospitals, I'm always down to support hospitals and we actually had pretty good experiences at Surrey Memorial for the most part mostly
We went there for all three of our children's prayer things, I think
Yeah
Yeah, sir Memorial seem all right
Linus if you would start a company would you do it alone or with someone 50% 50 50 ownership or?
Just lead to conflict would you start LMG with Luke for example wife as a business partner is the best
It's tough right, okay
The reason that starting a business 50 50
5149 or whatever it is with your spouse
could make sense is
You've already
Done the world's longest most arduous job interview essentially
Processes like done if you kind of think about it that way
however, if
Relationship contentment and divorce statistics or anything to go by most people suck at hiring
But it's it's such a perfect way to put that so
Oh
Yeah
if I was gonna start a company and I was really great at vetting my partner I
Would be down to do it 50 50
If I was starting a company, and I had any doubt
whatsoever in
my forever
Relationship with this partner you are essentially
Marrying someone that you start a business with 50 50 if it is successful
most of your personal wealth will be in this business if
You ever divorce they will take half
You got to think about it that way you are marrying this person
So with that in mind
You
Yeah, as long as you're comfortable
Marrying them then great and if you're not then you should probably do it on your own Luke is a complicated one
would I start a business with Luke I
Think
That I would be down so I'm talking non-hypothetically here, so it's post LMG I
Think if Luke started a business and wanted me as a partner I would be interested
But I the other way around I don't know that I would do the serial entrepreneur thing
And I just don't know that I would do a round two
I think that I I think that I might be done starting my own business
but whether it was like if it was my son, or if it was my work son or
Less less son more, bro
But if it was accurate if it was someone that like I I wouldn't mind being
work married to
Essentially I'd be willing to do it, but I would rather I'd rather be in more of an investor advisory
Even boots on the ground like I'm down to work there day-to-day
potentially, but my value is is sort of
it's sort of different you know and I I
I'd want it to be I want my value to be clearly understood by myself
You know that's something that I never really like I don't like involving myself in things where?
You know I don't really understand what I'm bringing to the table, or I don't feel like I'm bringing something to the table
I'd want it to really make sense for the business. I'd want to feel like I'm contributing and
Yeah, yeah, I think I'd be I think I'd be interested
I'd have to believe in the idea. I've had this idea a surprising amount of times
But it's always been like I think the thing that I would be chasing after is the like
Gritty upstart enos that we had early on
It's like can we even capture that again probably not to be completely honest?
so I don't know and yeah, it would have to be something that like
We
Would actually care about and want to do and I don't know what that would be
That we wouldn't do just like within the framework of what we already have
So yeah, I don't know Linus media group or Yvonne Queen
Umbrella corporation, that's my new name for it. I like it
Yeah, fun fact we actually have a company that has like Yvonne Queen in the name of it now
Her her lawyer our lawyer our lawyer, and I collaborated
the lawyer contributed the Queen part I
Like our lawyers hilarious it's good AJ, and I are gonna have to change so much branding. She's amazing anywho
Yvonne didn't want me to talk about that because she finds it very embarrassing, but I told her I was gonna do it
So I'm a man of my word
Yvonne you can never say that I'm anything but
I
Okay, what were you what were you talking about?
For the end of the show no no we were talking about something before that there was starting up companies
Oh, yeah, the scrappy right right right yeah
LMG is a great vehicle for us to kind of do anything we have
Like we have resources we have like people and money and stuff
You actually have pretty much all the things you would need to do practically anything
Yeah, we just having business you have to get focused engineering creative not have a CEO with ADHD anymore. That's the key
By the way, I know I still owe you guys a Q&A session on float plane
I haven't forgotten, and I will do it at some point. I promise
And I promise might be a fun one to just do with Taron next week. No that'll be different
I want to like interview him as a mainline video on the channel, okay?
Yeah, see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye hockey
Yeah
One of those things how do I not think of that all right?
But in the best way
Thanks for watching