So why does paint.net take like-
It's a really hard to run program.
It has to optimize for your specific computer.
Yeah, I know, but it took a really long time to install.
Then it wants a restart.
Are you freaking kidding me?
So that's what delayed us actually.
We were looking at up to 65% CPU usage
while paint.net optimized the performance
of our system here.
So yeah, we're live now.
Welcome to the WAN show guys.
It might even be harder to run
than Assassin's Creed Unity.
Yeah, I don't know.
Assassin's Creed Unity looks like
it's gonna be a bit of a beast.
We've got a great show for you today guys.
As you can see, my wonderful co-host was not actually fired.
You know, I get it,
because I haven't really made that joke in months.
And so we've got a lot of new viewers
who legitimately were concerned two weeks ago
when he wasn't on WAN show that he had been fired
because I was like, yeah, I fired him.
I could tell whenever WAN show went live
because I'm like overseas, so time is all weird.
But I could tell when WAN show went live
because my phone would blow up with people being like,
oh my God, you were actually fired.
No.
No, he was on vacation in Germany.
So he's back now and we don't have any special guests
cause he's kind of like our special guests.
Yay. Yay.
We've got a bunch of great topics for you today though.
Far Cry 4 is gonna be crazy expensive
if you want all of the launch day DLC.
And there's a lot of it.
And there's a lot of it.
Wow, we even have some more details about that.
Also, there is a real live hoverboard.
And if you were to move faster than hearing about it
from me and then going to buy it,
you would have been able to buy one.
All of the production units from the first run
have been sold.
More about that later.
DSL, maybe getting an upgrade to get to gigabit speeds,
which is- Gigabits.
Gigabits, yeah.
That's like a bazillion bits.
Actually, it's a very specific number of bits
that isn't a bazillion.
I knew that, don't worry.
Those screen unity specs are just dumb.
That's-
There's one word for it.
Dumb.
Actually, there could be two words.
We could use a synonym like stupid.
Ah, yes.
No, I don't think stupid is right
because stupid can even have like a positive meaning.
Like that car is so fast, it's stupid.
Or it's like stupid fast.
You don't say dumb fast.
No.
Dumb fast sounds like-
And I've heard people say stupid awesome,
but I've never heard anyone say dumb awesome.
Dumb awesome, we should start that.
We need dumb awesome computer specs
to run a test screen unity.
We need shirts that say I'm dumb awesome.
Ubisoft, dumb awesome.
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And thanks to you for coming back.
I was worried you might not.
You loved Germany so much.
I did, actually.
I really did.
Wanna tell us a little bit about your trip
before we actually talk about the things
that these people paid good money to hear us talk about?
I always come back with the story
where my mom would probably kill you if she heard it,
so I guess I'll give that one.
Great.
When we first, when Brandon and I first got to Berlin.
Hold on, hold on a second.
Mrs. Slick, this is me turning off my phone right now.
Well, I tried, turning it off better now.
There you go.
Boom, phone off.
Now that the phone's off, we will continue.
My phone's not even on me, so we're good.
All right, there will be no call-ins today.
So we get to Berlin and we're supposed to stay
at this hostel, already not super great situation.
So this was right after, right as you guys,
right after I left, okay.
Just right afterwards.
Actually, everything while Linus was there was fine,
so mom doesn't have to kill you.
We get to the hostel, no vacancy.
We're like, what, that, okay.
So we start wandering around trying to find a different one.
Everyone that we go to also, no vacancy.
Random, super cute, super nice British chick is like,
oh, by the way, there's this other hostel
that has three beds still open, which is right there
and points at the sketchiest place I've ever seen
in my entire life.
Including that hotel that you stayed in in Vegas?
It looks sketchier on the outside than that hotel did.
Wow.
On the outside, not on the inside.
Well, I'll get to that in a second though.
So you walk up, there's no sign at all.
The door is covered in like random paint
and like spray paint and crap
and the part of the window pane is broken
and it's just super ghetto.
And you open the door and walk in
and the door doesn't properly close.
I later ended up figuring out
that they actually bar the door from the inside
when they want it to be closed
because there's no working lock.
The place is called Aloha.
You have to go up a whole bunch of stairs
to get up in there and all of the stairs
are covered in like crap graffiti or like Sharpie writing
and it's just horrible.
But it's the only place we could find to stay.
You get up to the actual door for the Aloha
and like at this point, I'm basically dragging Brandon.
So I'm like, no, we gotta do this.
We have nowhere else to stay.
We have to dump our bags somewhere.
So finally get to the door, open it up
and all the walls are like super bright colored
and it looks like they actually had artists come in
and like paint on all the walls and stuff.
So it's nice once you get into the main area
but it is the most ghetto place I've ever stepped foot in
before you get to that main area.
So there's one of my stories for my trip.
That was within the first 24 hours.
Oh, good.
Well, I'm sure I can expect a call
whether I'm on the show or not from your mom
telling me about how what a bad person I am.
All right, so speaking of me being a bad person,
why don't we move into our first topic here?
How does this have anything to do with you being a bad person?
Yeah, it doesn't really.
Okay, this is inbox by Gmail.
This is not a replacement for Gmail.
This is just from first glance,
it looks like a new way of organizing your Gmail.
I actually really like what I've seen so far.
I did request an invite
which is actually the only way to join.
So there's a request invite button up here
and we can go ahead and yeah, you better do that Luke
cause it looks like it's pretty cool.
Actually the invite system is redonkulous.
You send an email to inbox at gmail.com.
Not even kidding.
And the button's broken.
When I click the link, it opens up my Gmail
but doesn't actually open up a...
Oh yeah, note two.
Yeah, it doesn't actually auto populate the two field.
So you have to type it in yourself.
It's like, oh, come on Google.
Anyway, so the way that it works is it,
you know how we've had for a little while
ways of organizing messages,
promos, purchases, blah, blah, blah.
I think right now I've got promotions
and then something else anyway.
The point is it adds more options like that.
You can now add your own categorization.
So things like purchases, like receipts,
things like tracking numbers for orders you've made online
will be sorted out for you.
And this one I really like.
So now you can actually preview stuff like,
okay, here's your flight information.
Here's a quick link so you can check in.
It's right there.
You don't even have to open emails
in order to get all the information that you need from them.
It seems like they took the whole Google Now concept
and just mashed it with Gmail.
And turned it into email,
which I think is great because I don't use Google Now,
but I would use inbox by Gmail because of this right here.
Reminders are one of those things
where it feels very separate
from everything else about Android.
Reminders are just kind of this thing.
Like you kind of have it sort of next to your email
or something.
It's the same problem that I have with Google Now,
which is I actually really like the idea,
but I always forget to check it, so it's useless.
Yes, and you forget to clean up the old ones
and stuff like that.
So you mean to use it,
but you almost need a reminder to remind you to use it.
So having something like this right in my inbox
and with ways to manage it,
now you can do things like snooze,
both reminders and emails,
something I've been asking for for ages,
because I loved that about Windows Pocket PC.
And I still love that about Windows Phone.
It's one of the few things I do love about Windows Phone
is the way that you can manage notifications and reminders
if you're someone who might be,
say for example, on a filming set
and you can't deal with it right now.
Well, actually iOS 8 has some pretty good
reminder management stuff as well.
The chat pointed something funny, not to interrupt you,
but she's using an iPhone.
The chat pointed this out.
I didn't notice this.
Yeah, she is.
Look at that.
She's using an iPhone 6.
Yeah, it's not like a huge deal,
but it's just kind of funny.
You'd think they would have done enough
looking into their own images
to make sure that they had their own phones.
Yeah, like that's a Nexus 5.
There you go.
Maybe they're making a point.
Maybe the point is this is for everyone.
Works on all devices.
Yeah, I mean, Google does a reasonably good job
of supporting Android.
I mean, their Studio app just crashes
whenever I reply to comments on iOS 8.
Works fine on iOS 7.
But yeah, I think this is great.
Being able to manage notifications,
being able to snooze an email,
like hey, let me deal with this in four hours
or tomorrow or in a couple days is great.
That would be great for us
because a lot of times we'll fire an email
to each other at like three or four in the morning.
And I'll get it then and be like,
oh, I need to deal with this tomorrow, not now.
Yeah, I think it's great
because I use my email as my to-do list.
I just have a to-do list draft email to myself
that I just edit because it's more handy for me
than having a separate app for that like Evernote.
I do use Keep anytime I needed location-based reminder,
but other than that, I use Gmail for that
and I use it as a scheduler as well.
So the calendar will have like our video release schedule,
but Gmail unread messages is really my to-do list
in a lot of ways where I'll be like,
oh, add this to the land show discussion
or do this or do that, I'll send myself emails.
And so being able to manage that better looks fantastic.
I'm impressed so far, but I haven't tried it yet, of course.
That signup is pretty funny.
I sent an email and got an immediate reply back.
We're just like, all right, you've been added to the list.
Like why is it done by email?
I don't know, it's super weird.
All right, speaking of things that are ridiculous
and this was originally posted on the forum
by Victorious Secret, Apple beats Bose
out of their retail and online stores.
Really like the wording of that headline,
Victorious Secret, you're a very funny person.
So this comes right on the heels
of Apple's acquisition of beats
and we actually did double check.
So I did a search for Bose on apple.com
and I came up with a bunch of routers.
And some servers, I think.
And a telepresence robot.
Oh, that's really expensive, yeah.
Yep.
So they have kicked them out.
There's some speculation right now,
a nine to five Mac did go ahead and phone some Apple stores
and confirmed they are no longer carrying Bose products.
I don't know that that's been rolled out to all stores,
but it is unknown at this time
whether this is more to do with Apple's recent acquisition
of beats and the associated headphones
or more to do with just some general kerfuffling
between Apple and Bose over the last little while.
So there was Bose threatening beats with a lawsuit
over use of their noise cancellation technology.
And then there was also the NFL deal
where Bose is sponsoring the NFL
and NFL players, some of whom
have lucrative beats sponsorship contracts
are not permitted to wear their headphones at NFL events.
So this was actually another nine to five Mac article
that I'll just bring up for you guys.
So 49ers quarterback was fined $10,000
for wearing beats headphones to a press conference.
He was probably fine with that
because he probably got a lot more than that from beats.
I'm sure that he can work that out with beats
to make sure that he doesn't end up having to eat that,
but it's still a lot of socks.
Yeah.
You know, not that I necessarily think
celebrity endorsements are the greatest thing ever
when it comes to, you know,
selling headphones that aren't worth
what people are paying for them.
Has a celebrity endorsement
ever affected a purchase of yours?
Wow, that is such a great straw poll.
And Twitter blitz guys.
Okay, yeah.
Hit us.
And this can include, like, if you're buying, say,
I know Kingston does a lot of esports sponsorships.
So if you're buying Kingston stuff
just because you want to support esports, that counts.
If you want to support that person specifically, that counts.
Have you ever let a celebrity endorsement
affect your purchase decision?
We're not going to do a straw poll.
I want to do this as a Twitter blitz.
And I want to move on to the next topic
while I think about whether or not
I've had a celebrity endorsement affect something,
because it's subtle a lot of the time.
You have to really think about it.
Answer honestly and think about it, you guys,
because I suspect more of you,
a lot of you who had an initial knee-jerk reaction,
no, of course not, have probably had it affect you,
whether you know it or not.
I haven't knee-jerk purchased something because of one,
but I have definitely paid more attention
and, like, maybe researched something.
Like, if I see something, if I see someone using it,
especially different pro-gaming stuff,
they could be like, oh, that's an interesting mouse
that this guy's using, say it's Counter Strike,
and I'd look into that mouse and try and figure out
if there's anything interesting about that mouse,
and then maybe purchase it
based on other reviews and stuff.
But I haven't knee-jerk purchased something
just because of a celebrity.
You know what, I'm trying to think of a product
that I've purchased based on someone,
and I can't really think of, like,
a consumer electronics product,
but I have purchased books based on who wrote the foreword.
Definitely.
I forget what book I bought
because it had a foreword by Steve Wozniak,
and he said it was good, and so I bought it.
I've done that with books, for sure.
So, yes, and I don't know if Steve Wozniak
counts as a celebrity in the same way that a sports icon does
because the book was, I think it was a business book,
so he would actually know something about that.
Where, okay, because there's two different-
Yeah, no, you have a good point.
There's unrelated celebrity endorsement.
I actually recently found out how much,
they were talking about it on the radio,
so my source for this story is,
shoot, it's not Team 1040, a TSN 1040,
it's a local radio station,
and they were saying that Kim Kardashian
charges a million dollars just to show up
for an endorsement of a makeup product or jeans
or brand opening or whatever the thing happens to be.
She requires six first-class plane tickets,
so for her and whoever she wants to bring with her,
they need ground security,
they need first-class accommodations,
and I forget what some of the other requirements are,
but you know what's funny is I figured out
that for things like Nvidia Mod 24,
I don't think we've been charging enough
because I did a rough calculation,
and I kinda went, okay, Kim Kardashian's Twitter followers,
my Twitter followers, Kim Kardashian a million dollars,
and how much I charge for things,
and I went, shoot, I should be charging way more for stuff
because if Kim Kardashian's worth a million dollars.
Anyway.
That's pretty funny.
Sort of unrelated.
Let's go ahead and start doing that Twitter blitz
because I think I figured out that, yes,
I have purchased books based on four words.
I didn't even think about books.
I've looked up different people's book lists,
like I have Elon Musk's book list,
and I've bought certain things off of his book list,
so I've definitely done that.
I didn't think about books at all.
I don't think buying a 780 Ti after our review counts.
No.
Because we're not endorsing the product in any official way.
Yeah, that's a review.
That's a review, not an endorsement.
We're talking about if you saw someone wearing something.
Yeah.
All right.
If we were wearing a 780 as a necklace?
Oh, all right.
I think, here we go.
Josh says, of course, started with Nike Air Jordans.
I'm sure that specific one goes for quite a few people.
I think so.
Yeah, that and Beats.
I think it will be a lot.
Kiko says, I buy based on the company,
not the person advertising the product.
I'm a big celebrity person.
I'm just trying to think, did Happy Gilmore
affect my Subway purchasing patterns?
That's more of a product placement
than a celebrity endorsement,
but he does do a celebrity endorsement within the movie
as Happy.
I don't know.
That's like an endorsement.
When I was younger, didn't know any better.
Example, Player Boots.
Oh, crap, yes.
I have not actually bought one based on this,
but I have shopped for badminton rackets
based on who uses the racket.
Interesting.
I have not done that with sports gear,
but I do definitely know a lot of people that have.
Alan says, no, my money is too precious to waste on esports.
Yeah, but we're talking about everything here.
Joshua says, yes, I've bought something
because you endorsed it before.
Palm says, no.
CJ says, if you count yourself, then yes,
I got a 1M8 because of your review.
Again, review, I was not paid to endorse it.
In fact, HTC's never paid us anything.
Yeah, we've never done a paid deal with them.
Reviews don't count.
Definitely.
I didn't know what Be Quiet was
until I saw them as a sponsor of Dignitas.
There you go. There you go.
There's a good one.
We're not talking specifically about esports, though.
Yeah.
I just wanted to make sure
that everyone knows they're included.
Interesting.
Does it count as a celebrity endorsement
if they actually buy the product and wear it?
I think in the context
of when I was asking the question, no.
No, but that would still be a public figure
influencing your purchasing decision.
And that would probably influence
my purchasing decision more.
There's actually quite a few people,
here's three in a row, saying that yes,
they have purchased something
because we talked about it or endorsed it in some way.
Duncan says, does subscribing to someone on Twitch count?
No, I don't think so.
That's more like just paying that person.
Yeah.
Wow, interesting.
Knox says, reviews and user feedback versus celebrity.
Yeah, I've used celebrity endorsement
to go look for reviews and user feedback.
Right.
I haven't knee-jerk purchased something, though.
Interesting.
Yeah, really, thank you guys very much
for your comments on that.
That was actually very interesting
to see more than anything else
how many of you were honest about it.
Because I'm just trying to think,
some celebrity endorsements have stood out to me
a lot more than others.
Like, shoot, that guy who did
the stupid Subway commercials with the silly voice.
Subway, eat fresh!
I can't remember his guy.
He used to do silly movies like Paulie Shore style crap.
Ever, so I have no idea.
Yeah, I can't remember.
It stood out to me.
Definitely didn't buy more Subway because of it.
I think the first time I tried Quiznos
was after they did the Toasted Tastes Better campaign
with Don Cherry, though.
Really?
I think so.
I didn't.
First time I've tasted Quiznos
is because I was super hungry
and they were their only thing in range.
I like Quiznos.
Not because Don Cherry endorses it, but.
I find you get more with Subway.
You do.
I don't know if that's right, yeah.
I like the taste of Quiznos,
but Subway's a much better value.
All right, this was originally posted
by S. Vinsparebu, whatever, I don't care.
I tried, man.
All right, Ars Technica and BBC.com
and Tech Report have all had,
oh, I love Scott Lawson, so we're gonna pull up his article.
But this is really interesting.
IBM pays Global Foundry's $1.5 billion
to take over their cash sync of a chip foundry business.
So here's the article on Tech Report.
There's actually some really interesting information
on that one because Cyril brings up
that this deal could be subject
to as many as 200 regulatory bodies approval worldwide
before going through because IBM supplies some chips
to governmental agencies.
It's actually pretty intense.
Yeah, that's incredible.
So right, $1.5 billion going to Global Foundry's
over the next three years to complete the transfer.
IBM continuing their $3 billion committed investment
into semiconductor tech research over five years.
Global Foundry's will be the main beneficiary
of the ongoing research and will acquire thousands
of patents as part of the deal.
And Global Foundry's is required, presumably,
actually I don't know that they're required to,
but they're saying they are gonna keep substantially
all of the IBM employees and facilities
other than one in Bromo, Quebec,
which IBM will keep and will continue its current mission
of developing advanced semiconductor packaging solutions
for IBM server and storage products.
So IBM intends to keep designing semiconductor products,
but they're entering into a 10-year deal
for Global Foundry's to produce all of their 22, 14
and 10 nanometer semiconductor products for,
I think I said 10 years already.
Yeah, I think this can be pretty interesting,
especially because of Google's recent thing
with their red motherboards, did you read about that?
Did not.
Google has been basically exclusively Intel
for a really long time, but Google is now saying
that they want more competition on that realm.
So they have set up these new,
like mysterious red motherboards that will work
with IBM chips so that they can start shifting
so they have a little bit more of a distribution
instead of just being almost exclusively Intel.
Interesting, okay.
So they're moving more into IBM chips
and IBM is moving out of a Foundry business,
which is an interesting combination.
They've already converted their code
to be able to work on these new chips.
So they're still gonna be designing chips
for mainframe products and they're still going
to be having global founders produce them,
so they'll still be selling them.
They just are trying to move their business
gradually away from lower profitability businesses,
things like say for example, making laptops,
which they sold to Lenovo, making servers,
which they also just recently unloaded
and now even making chips is not profitable enough for IBM.
They're moving towards cloud and social.
They're getting very much away from anything
that can be anywhere close to consumer.
Yeah, anything physical, tangible, consumer-based.
Nah, nah, man, forget it.
Pretty interesting.
All right, this is a pretty quick topic.
This is posted by Terere93.
This is from 3dprint.com
and we're gonna go ahead and pull that up here.
Oh, I guess I should put us back in the corner.
Yay, we're back, look at us up here.
Woo, corner party.
Corner party, we haven't done a corner party in a while.
We haven't done a corner party in a while.
Ah!
Okay.
So two year sentence handed down to Yoshitomo Imura
in Japanese 3D printed gun case.
So this was back in May of this year, I believe,
that he was originally arrested,
but after he was seen test firing a zigzag revolver
for which he had 3D printed.
Japanese is known for their strict gun laws,
but I am surprised to see them crack down this hard
on what appears to be the first offense here.
I'm not really that surprised.
And I'm very surprised that he's like,
oh, I'm unaware that there's any laws prohibiting blah,
because he went and fired it as well.
If they have laws strictly against guns in general,
like you really think you're gonna just
totally get away with this?
I'm surprised it was two years.
I would have expected the first time around
to be more of a slap on the wrist.
So like slap on the wrist and in state laws.
And then make sure that it's super clear.
And then beyond that, it's like, okay, look,
you guys knew at this point, so too bad.
Yeah, that's not a bad point.
I just think it's kind of silly that he's like,
oh yeah, I had no idea this was illegal.
It's like, yeah, okay.
You must have known at some level
you were gonna get in trouble.
Yeah, I think he probably also underestimated
how much trouble he was going to get into.
I just, it seems like one of those things
where some leniency, well, I guess you have to decide.
Do you give some leniency and then just hope
that others following don't expect any leniency?
Or do you just crack down on it super hard,
make international news, here we are talking about it,
and make it really clear that no, we are controlling guns.
That means guns you make yourself,
guns other people make for you.
Because it's not like you couldn't make a gun before.
And it's not like that wasn't illegal.
So in places where that's controlled.
Yeah, it's just a different way of making your own gun.
That doesn't make it any different, really.
People make guns in prison.
It's doable.
All right, speaking of making guns in prison,
this was posted by Ty Lightning
and the original article is from PCGamer.com.
Far Cry 4 Season Pass offers new missions and a PVP mode.
Now, it has been pointed out by a Ubisoft employee
who shall remain nameless who was like,
yo dog, I can't believe you posted
that inflammatory link on your Facebook
because it's just the one mode that is DLC.
You will actually still have access
to general PVP multiplayer.
It's just the overrun mode.
So you team up in this PVP mode
and control a series of neutral locations.
So yeah, it's just a territory control mode.
So the one I would have liked the most.
So like the one that will probably be fun
in the context of Assassin's Creed and the one that.
Far Cry 4.
Excuse me, yeah, Far Cry 4.
And the one that is included in every other game ever.
And so my response to that, I didn't reply to the email,
but I'm gonna respond to it now.
My response to that is it should be inflammatory.
Ubisoft should be torn a new one
for turning something that was already included
with every other game ever
into something that's a launch day DLC.
The season's pass goes for 30 bucks includes, what is it?
I think it's maps and story crap, five missions.
Apparently, Yetis.
Valley of the Yetis, so you've crashed in a blah, blah, blah
with single player and co-op options.
It looks like it's just a survival mode.
I think Left 4 Dead 2 had that, you know.
Much cheaper game, maybe go get that one.
Yeah, I feel I should play some Left 4 Dead.
It's been a long time.
It's good, and it's like really, really cheap now.
So between the cost of the game and the season's pass,
which includes enough content that I guess you could say
it justifies the $30 price tag,
but you could also say this was a lot of stuff
that was produced for the sole purpose
of selling it to you on launch day
so that you could pay a higher sticker price for the game.
We discussed this last week.
You weren't here for this,
but we discussed based on inflation,
based on the increased general number of man or woman hours
that goes into making a game,
is $90 actually an unfair amount to ask
given that there were SNES games, 60 bucks?
There's more Metro Silica than that.
I know, and there's a lot more to look at than that,
but let's just go pure inflation, okay?
A game should be 75 bucks.
Fair.
It's not fair, but it's reality.
Digital distribution is a lot cheaper
than physical distribution.
Digital distribution is cheaper.
There's also a massive amount of more customers.
Which isn't the point.
Like ridiculous degree amount of more customers.
That's not really the point.
But you're looking at your sales.
Bananas don't go down in price because-
Bananas are a physical item.
These aren't a physical item.
Yes, bananas are a physical item.
You could give someone a digital banana.
Okay, it's rarely to do with the cost of making something.
It's always to do with the value
that the customer gets from it.
That's how things are priced, unless they're commodity items.
And I would argue a game is not a commodity item.
Not digital things necessarily.
Why not?
That's why movies are,
if one person was viewing a movie digitally,
it would cost the cost of creating that movie.
Yes.
How many people you're able to sell it to
is part of a sales metric.
Yeah, but it's not about cost.
I think movies are a great example
because with the exception of services like Netflix,
movies have taken a long time to adapt to,
okay, things should cost less because they're digital.
They didn't cost any less because they're digital.
In fact.
But they're very well known
to be a very slow moving crappy industry
that Netflix has been like,
you guys are idiots and then taken over.
Yes.
So not necessarily a good example.
Okay, then we could pull up an example
like the billion dollars that,
crap.
I'm not sure.
League of Legends.
Okay.
Yeah, we could pull,
we could say the example of the billion dollars
that League of Legends makes.
They could afford to do a skin for a penny,
but they don't because it's about the value
that the consumer places on that item.
They're not about the cost of creating it.
But they're also not locking game modes.
It's a skin.
Okay, but they also have heroes that they do lock,
but that you can unlock for free.
Yeah.
So.
And aren't that hard to really get.
How about this?
All right, all right.
If anyone from Ubisoft is watching this time around,
how about this?
Why can't, why don't you unlock,
why don't you unlock the season,
why don't you find, make a way to unlock the season's pass
if you achieve 90% game completion or something like that?
Really interesting.
And you can make it difficult.
Most of the Ubisoft games are not that easy to 100%
because there's usually collectible items and stuff.
Yeah, there's a lot of junk.
Oh yeah, and that's fine.
For the people who really, really would have used
the extra content, okay, you guys can prove to us
that you really need it.
You could even make it 100% of the game.
And you could make it 100% of the game.
I think that's a little unfair.
Like I think if they were gonna be reasonable about it,
it should be something more like an 80 or 90%.
Well, if you're gonna include like challenge modes,
then it should be 80 or 90%.
Yeah, so and then, okay, then go ahead
and we unlock it automatically for those people.
But if you're one of those people who just wants
to dink around with this particular thing
and or you just don't feel like doing side missions
and you just wanna play through the story mission
and it's worth the $30 to you,
making it an optional upgrade,
would gamers feel better about that?
I would.
I would do it because I like doing that already.
I'm a completionist already, no matter how lame that is.
So you know I took my Assassin's Creed save file
100% of it and then it corrupted and I was super pissed.
But like. Yeah, I do remember that.
I did that already anyways.
I didn't end up buying really any DLC
because once I was done with the game,
I was done with the game.
So I don't know.
And my corrupt save file was a major piss off.
I probably would have bought DLC if my game didn't corrupt.
But still, I don't know.
So if you. That would be cool.
I would like that.
If you buy the Seasons Pass,
it's 20% less than all the DLCs individually.
Game and Pass can be purchased
in all-in-one Far Cry Gold Edition for 90 bucks.
But it's not necessarily actually cheaper.
It's just not a discount over buying the game
and buying the DLC separately.
It's coming out November 18th.
Why do we care if it comes out November 18th?
Because you should probably buy it on November 25th
when it's 10 or $20 off.
And we'll probably have a benchmarking video.
Yeah, that'll happen for sure for Far Cry 4.
We gotta make that happen.
All right, so GTX 970 ITX from Gigabyte.
This looks freaking amazing.
Yes, it does.
Posted by Rask on the forum.
Original articles from tomshardware.com.
I'm gonna go ahead and load that up.
You wanna tell them about this freaking miracle
of a little graphics card here?
So apparently it's gonna be running
colder than the reference card.
It's actually gonna be running at 62 degrees Celsius
instead of 76 degrees Celsius
during a Metro Last Light benchmark, which is sick,
considering it is smaller.
It is ITX size.
So it's similar to the old, what was it, 670?
Oh yeah, I think both ASUS and MSI
did 760 ITX edition cards.
So just longer than a slot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So just barely longer.
So you're gonna be able to fit it
in these tiny little miniature cases, which is great.
That's super awesome.
Console killers, anyone? Especially because it's a 970,
because 970 are already really good for their value
and quite fast.
And like you just said, console killers, anyone?
For sure.
And people that are building
these little miniature Steam Machine things,
which are just PCs, but they're small
and have Steam OS on it.
Anyways, this is probably a great card for them.
Are we still live?
Yeah, why?
Okay, I'm having bad troubles with my...
Yeah, yeah, it's all good.
Yeah, anyways, it's powered
by a single eight-pin PCI Express power connector,
which is also great because you don't wanna be running
a whole ton of cables in these really compact systems.
So that's good to see.
Card comes overclocked running at 1076 megahertz base
with a boost clock of 1216, which is pretty damn fast.
And the VRM circuitry is apparently not all that elaborate
and the cooler doesn't look necessarily that amazing either,
but it is performing better than the reference one.
So still pretty cool.
So there's not a whole lot to complain about
and there's a whole lot to like about this card.
Two DVI ports, three DisplayPort interfaces,
and an HDMI port, and it's $330,
and it apparently ships early November,
so real freaking soon.
Yeah, we've already reached out to Gigabyte
about hopefully doing a review of it
where we can really see,
because I mean, it's one thing to say,
okay, the temperatures are this,
but we don't really have any clarification,
like is that on an open test bench?
What about when someone actually tries
to build a mini ITX system with this?
I would definitely like to investigate that a little bit
and find out what's up with that.
That'd be really cool.
Excited for that card to show up.
Yeah, so far we haven't got a confirmation
that we'll be covering it, but I would really like to.
All right, so next up,
we've got a Kickstarter for Hoverboard.
So this was originally posted by Liam McShane on the forum.
I'm gonna go ahead and pull up the Kickstarter page here.
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, boop, Hendo Hoverboards,
the world's first real hoverboard.
Does this feel to you
like they're actually trying to make a company,
or does it seem like they're just trying to cash in
on making a flashy video on Kickstarter
and having a bunch of people give you money and then-
Honestly, that's all that Kickstarter
really feels like lately,
so I'm gonna be a little bit biased on this one,
but over the last little while,
Kickstarter's been pretty in the dumps.
I was much less enchanted with this
than I think a lot of people were.
I'd be enchanted with this video actually playing.
There we go.
Doesn't want to skip forward apparently though.
A really well shot Kickstarter video
is basically like the equivalent of printing money.
Yeah.
Like I would be, like looking at this video,
looking at the way this was shot is,
this wasn't cheap.
No.
It either wasn't cheap or they have a cinematography dork
with a lot of really great equipment on it.
I thought it was funny how he,
did you see when the kid was running the thing over,
it was all over the different things of metal?
Yeah.
Pliers and-
So the way this tech works,
it seems very magnificent when you consider
that holy crap, they've got a hoverboard.
Look at this.
Wow, he's on a hoverboard.
Except that the issue is that this hover,
oh, I guess we should probably show this.
The issue is that this hoverboard only runs on metal.
So-
Yeah, so it's a metal-
It's just magnets.
And I mean, yes, it is still an achievement
because if you've ever taken two magnets
with similar poles facing each other
and like tried to have one of them sit on top
of the other one, it ain't that simple.
Like it's cool, but isn't it 10 grand by a single one?
Yeah, it's 10 grand by a single one.
They've already sold all of the individual hoverboards
that they've committed to commit.
So does it look like they're trying
to create a viable business?
Not really, because they've only committed
to producing 10 hoverboards.
If they were trying to make a business
out of making hoverboards, you would think
they would want to sell as many of them as possible,
and that wouldn't be 10.
Because the reality of it is,
you're not gonna be able to ride it anywhere.
So-
Like at all.
Like at all, because there's no metal in the sidewalk.
So you're not gonna be
Martin McFly. Or at any skate park.
Or yeah, or over like the fountain
as you run away from the bullies or whatever.
So yeah, very cool.
No makes no sense.
I don't understand how they managed to raise $350,000.
You do get a pretty cool thing
for some of the funding tiers.
You get this little metal plate
with a little white box that uses the same principles
to float around on it.
That's super cool, but I don't understand
why anyone bought a hoverboard for $10,000.
Unless they also intend on spending
incredible amounts of money to make their own
like metal skate park.
Like metal skate park, which would be insanely expensive.
Spend $10,000 on a skateboard, maybe.
That's what I mean.
Like if you're going all in and you're spending,
if you're already super rich for one,
and just intend to make your own entire metal skate park,
which can't go wrong in any way, of course not.
Yeah.
Then sure.
Operation cannot possibly fail.
Just make a whole metal skate park, sure.
And don't bother getting any grind rails or anything
because that's totally not gonna work.
Yeah, that won't work.
You can grind the board against it.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think I'd recommend it.
I guess you'll probably have
a pretty simple skate park actually.
Just swoop like they had in the video.
That's pretty much all you can do.
Yeah, it hovers about an inch off the ground,
but I guess you guys saw that in the video.
So there you go.
I guess that's all we really have to say about that.
At least you don't have to pay for new skateboard wheels.
Mind you, you could get a skateboard
that does have wheels on it that you ride
as much as you're gonna ride this hoverboard
and then you'd never have to pay for new wheels
for that either.
Since you won't be riding this hoverboard.
I can show you guys a picture of that GTX 970 ITX now.
So there you go, that's what it looks like.
It's small and it's a GTX 970.
So that picture's on Tom's hardware
if you wanted to look at it some more.
That share ribbon right down the middle of the picture.
That was super cool.
Yeah, I like that.
All right, posted by Solo SDK.
This original article is from BGR.com.
Apple's A8X dominates the benchmarks.
I wonder if he's the software development kit
for Solo things.
Sure.
All right, so let's see if this page
is gonna load at some point.
If it doesn't, then you'll just have to count on me
to sort of talk about it.
Apple's been really cagey about the specs of their A8 chip.
I mean, this is pretty typical for them,
but it looks like all they were really saying
in their event was 40% faster,
which is very typical Apple speak.
Yeah.
Does things two times as well.
Magical.
I love the facial expression.
Apparently all Apple people just have duck face,
but like shifted upwards duck face.
Really smug duck face.
Yes.
Oh no, it's 44 cents faster.
Revolutionary.
We changed everything yet again.
We changed everything again.
The best part of that is how little has actually changed
since the original iPhone.
I know, yeah.
Why is this not working?
Oh, cause you're not plugged into the wall with it.
Why was it unplugged?
It's okay, you still got a lot of battery left.
Anyway.
Is it 11, what?
No, no, you got lots, you're good.
You got one hour, 10 minutes.
It just told me, it gave me a warning saying 11%
and then now it's saying 55%.
So basically looks like it's gonna be a three core processor
looks like it runs at something like 1.4 gigahertz.
I don't know that article is not loading for me anymore
and the detail was in there.
Ah, yes, here we go.
And it looks like it freaking trashes everything else
that Apple has ever released in terms of performance.
So the iPhone six, which runs the eight,
so we're not seeing the same chip in an iPad
and an iPhone product this time around
is much, much, much slower.
So the CPU mark rating is 44,000 for the iPhone six
and iPhone six plus and 73,000 for the iPad air two.
Looking pretty spiffy.
Nothing special about the memory except that,
oh wait, Apple finally put two gigs of Ram in a product.
Wow, they've changed everything again
by doubling the memory.
They changed everything, specifically Ram.
It's, okay, there's a couple things
that are interesting to me about this.
So ARM at 1.5 gigahertz, one processor, three cores,
very, very cool stuff.
The one interesting thing to me about
them finally increasing Ram is because Apple tends
to support the iPad products with new OSs
for longer than the iPhone products from my experience.
Like my iPad two is still getting updates.
So I still get iOS eight.
How great the experience it is, maybe, who knows.
I also wouldn't be too surprised if people were iteratively
updating their tablets less than their phones,
which is probably why they're doing that,
which makes sense.
Yeah, so, okay, so the only thing that this indicates
to me is maybe at some point, whether it's iOS nine
or iOS 10, we are finally gonna see the phones move
to two gig and we're finally gonna see some kind
of better multitasking experience on iOS.
Something I brought up in my review that went live
last night about iOS is that it's not all about speeds
and feeds on this thing.
I guess it only has a gig of Ram, but what multitasking
are you doing on iOS anyway?
And the management of background resource usage
is excellent.
That's why you can go to bed with an iPhone
on your nightstand and wake up with 2% or 3%
of your battery drained.
That does not happen on Android because Android
doesn't shut down background apps and.
If I forget to shut down certain apps,
I can have more drain overnight than during the day
because throughout the day I'll be like,
oh yeah, I should close things.
Yeah, I installed Plex on my one M8
and I was getting 65 to 70% battery drain
just sitting on my pillow from when I wake up
until I get home from work, which is at around 8 p.m.
I find the camera to be the worst
because a lot of times I want to take a quick picture
and then go back to what I was doing
so I just press home and I don't close it
and it just sits there idling in the background.
It takes huge amounts of battery.
So yeah, this is all interesting.
So the iPad Air 2 crushes the benchmarks, cool.
I guess that's all we really have to say about.
Yeah, it's not really, it did things well.
All right, so moving on.
14 nanometer Broadwell E is rumored
to enter mass production in Q1 2016.
This was posted on the forum by Big Streams.
This is a pretty far off rumor.
Yeah, so this is a pretty far off rumor.
It also indicates something that makes me pretty sad
and that's that Broadwell for consumers
is gonna come significantly before Broadwell for enthusiasts
so we're going back to that whole
enthusiasts get things after everyone else,
which was unavoidable I guess
because really this is more of a,
really this is more of a server enterprise product anyway
because it's a Xeon platform.
That's where they're doing the bulk of the business
with quad channel memory and all that stuff.
Enthusiasts just kind of get to also enjoy it
and that space moves a lot slower
and so I guess we should be happy
it's only a six month lag as opposed to the year
that we were seeing before
and at least we're still gonna have,
so it looks like it's gonna be eight and six core options.
Again, support for overclocking with K-series SKUs,
Intel Turbo Boost 2.0, up to 20 megabytes of cache
and the power is gonna be 140 watts
with up to 40 lanes of PCIe 3.0
so I think we're gonna see a very, very similar
to Haswell-E type of product lineup.
Eight core, six core, six core
with cut down PCIe lanes on the bottom one
but I have no problem with that.
Haswell-E is a great product, especially the 5820K
and this looks like that plus 10% IPC
and better power consumption.
So there you go.
Actually 5820K I think is not getting enough credit.
I see a lot of people really questioning
the use of fewer PCI express lanes on that product,
28 versus 40 and contemplating stepping up to the 5930K
which I don't think makes a ton of sense.
Didn't we, have we only theorized
about releasing that video or did we actually release it?
No, that video's out.
The one where we showed SLI scaling with the different CPUs.
Unless you're going quad SLI,
I can't come up with a reason.
Probably shouldn't.
Which you probably shouldn't.
I can't come up with a good reason
why you need to buy 5930K or 5820K.
There are some things, okay,
if you want to really leverage M.2 storage expansion.
So if you want to be plugging an SSD directly
into PCI express and you want two graphics cards
and you want a 10 gigabit NIC
and you want a RAID card for your other storage array.
So you probably shouldn't run quad SLI
and you're probably not running that.
Yeah, you're probably not doing all that stuff.
You might be.
If that were to happen, you might need the PCI express lanes
but even with 28 lanes, two cards running at 8x8x
is only 16 of them.
That's still 12 more.
So an M.2 SSD, there goes another four.
You've still got lots of PCI express lanes left
so I don't think it's that big of a deal.
I think the 5820K makes a ton of sense.
All right.
So we're expecting pre-engineering samples processors
sometime in Q2 2015.
And they will continue to use the LGA 2011 V3 X99 platform
that's great news.
So we're getting small incremental improvements.
The NSA approves Samsung's Galaxy phones
for classified work.
This was posted by Tech Dreamer on the forum
and let's just go ahead and fire that up here.
So I guess there's two ways to read this.
Number one is Samsung phones are really secure.
Number two is, and this is the tinfoil hat version,
Samsung phones are gonna tell the NSA everything.
Or they're also really not secure
because people worry about global keys
possibly used by the NSA.
So there's like the second tinfoil hat option.
But the tinfoil hat options are.
I don't think that's it.
Come on.
It's approved for use by the NSA for themselves,
not approved for use.
Like it's not the NSA signing off on this phone
is approved for use for people.
I think it's approved for use
for all government agencies within.
Not all.
So it's NSA and there's another specific one
that it's approved for.
Defense Information Systems Agency.
And I suspect once those ones approve it,
the others will start to fall very quickly.
But basically it's what is it?
The Note 4, the Galaxy.
It's devices based on the Knox security platform.
So all Galaxy, S4, S5, Note 3, Note 4,
Note 10.1, 2014 edition, Note Edge, Alpha,
Tab S8.4, Tab S10.5, and their IPsec VPN service.
Yeah, so lots of basically encryption.
There's a separate, the way Knox works,
we've actually talked about it in the past
in like an interview with someone from Samsung or something.
So there's like a separate phone within a phone,
like a virtual phone that's secured.
And then you can continue to use the device personally
with as little security as you want
within your own kind of user virtual phone.
So it is pretty cool.
This is something that Samsung's been working on
for a very long time.
This was a big part of the story
when they first launched the S4.
So yeah, I guess.
I wouldn't be surprised at all
if NSA can easily get into these.
I'm not, I'm not even just, why wouldn't they say Apple?
You could tell me the NSA can easily get into my pants
and I'd probably believe you, so.
Yeah, they probably can.
Echolocation, weird audio bouncing off things.
They can like form the digital image
and recreate skin color based off your face
and then there you go.
And they can.
Digitally get in your pants.
They probably won't enjoy it, so.
I guess I'll let them go for that.
Oh, all right.
Oh, now this was something, okay.
So I have a couple of things to talk about here.
Apple, this was posted by Sam Fisher on the forum,
original articles from Ars Technica.
I have a couple of things to talk about here.
First of all, I did say mistakenly
that applications will not benefit from 64-bit inherently
and it's mostly to do with architectural improvements
in a fastest possible very recently.
There are workloads that will benefit very significantly
from 64-bit.
I should have phrased it better
because most of those workloads aren't something
that are gonna be a major concern.
Things like encryption benefit from 64-bit enormously,
but it doesn't really matter
because a phone is already fast enough
to handle encryption very, very easily.
So yes, incremental power savings, great.
Incremental performance in things like touch ID,
recognition, yes, all very good stuff.
Love it, fantastic.
It's just not a big deal
when it comes to browsing the internet typically,
unless there's encryption involved.
So there's that.
And number two is I said I really didn't see
how Apple was gonna handle smoothly transitioning
to 64-bit on their phones.
Looks like this is it.
Beginning February, 2015,
App Store submissions must be 64-bit, boom.
So they've had a 64-bit CPU for a long time.
The 5S launched with a 64-bit CPU,
but developers have kind of been dragging ass,
although in developers' defense,
they did go ahead and release iOS 7,
and then they did go ahead and release iOS 8
with two new screen sizes.
Apple's never done that before.
Two new screen sizes on the phone at the same time.
Never done that before.
So okay, yeah, devs have been busy.
But now it's gonna be mandatory as of February.
So that's how they're gonna do it.
By the time a third-generation iPhone
with a 64-bit processor launches,
it will have been mandatory for six months
for your app to be 64-bit.
So any updates or any new apps will have to be 64-bit.
If you have an app that's on the store
and you don't update it for whatever reason,
I guess it's still fine.
I guess if you don't update it, it'll stay there.
But yeah, if you were to deliver an update
or do whatever else.
Now, to be clear, these 64-bit apps
will still have to work on 32-bit devices,
unless they specifically say that they're compatible
only with the 5S, 6, 6+, and then 7
or whatever the case may be.
But they will at least be able to take advantage
of the performance improvements
and whatever else comes along with 64-bit.
And there were some examples
of non-encryption-based applications
that did speed up significantly.
Anantek actually did an excellent article
looking at just no optimizations at all.
Just compile it in 32-bit, compile it in 64-bit.
What kind of a performance improvement do you see?
And there were some that did quite well
and some that even small performance gains are important
because it's about more than how fast does that app launch.
It's about CPU idle time.
So when an app is done being worked on,
done being launched,
your device isn't really working on it anymore.
That's great for battery life,
which is great for the mobile experience.
So if you can get an extra 10% of battery life
on your phone, would you take it?
Sure, I would.
Most definitely.
Because it all kind of sucks.
Yeah, exactly.
Battery life is one of the most frustrating things
with phones right now.
All right.
Speaking of frustrating things with phones,
G.Skills Phoenix Blade posted by Big Streams.
Yeah, no, the segue didn't make sense to worry about it.
Original articles. I was trying to think.
I was like, maybe there's something.
From Guru3D, Tech Report, Tech Power Up,
lots of good stuff here.
Do you wanna cover this one
while I pull it up on the screen here?
So first of all, it looks absolutely beautiful,
but I guess you guys will see that in a moment.
It's built on, it's a 480 gigabyte SSD array
with speeds up to 2,000 megabytes per second
and 240K IOPS.
That is so jokes.
Megabytes.
That's dumb fast.
That is dumb.
See, cause normally you would say stupid fast.
That is actually fairly interesting.
It's crazy fast.
PCIe Gen 2.09x8 trim and SCSI UMAP support,
SMART, all that kind of stuff.
Three year warranty.
It's gonna be $699.
Yeah.
Which is a lot.
1.46.
About 48 gigs.
Sorry?
About 48 gig or so?
About 46.
Okay.
Very, very close.
Did you brain math that?
No.
You didn't?
No, I read it before.
Okay, okay.
I was like, that was pretty quick.
I was pretty impressed.
No, dog.
It's a random tidbit.
People in Germany are incredibly fast
at doing math in their head.
Anyways, that's what I found anyways.
So yeah, pretty cool.
Did you get the picture of it?
Yeah, yeah, I had that up for a bit there.
Cause it does look really fucking cool.
Looks badass.
It has four SANFORCE 2281 controllers on it.
Yes, it's a quad SSD array behind a PCI express.
What is it?
8x interface, did you say?
Yes.
That is unfreaking believable.
And I think that nine was a typo in there.
Let's go ahead and remove that.
So yeah, that looks fantastic.
I guess this is just because LSI slash,
didn't they get sold to like Pixar or something?
Like the SANFORCE unit keeps getting shuffled around.
Can't even remember who it belongs to anymore.
But the new generation SANFORCE controller
that we saw for the first time over a year ago at Computex.
Yeah, still isn't here.
So this is the closest thing we have
is throwing more last-generation SANFORCE controllers
on a better bus in RAID operation
and then just kind of brute forcing the heck out of it.
The only thing we have is 2000 megabytes per second.
Yeah, that's all we got.
And the fact that it supports TRIM is very surprising to me.
Most RAID controllers don't support TRIM.
In fact, the one that I'm aware of that does do it
is Intel's onboard RAID.
And other than that, even add in like $607, $800 RAID cards,
most of them don't support passing TRIM through
SSDs in RAID 0, so fascinating.
TRIM is pretty important, so that's actually pretty cool.
All right, the Pirate Bay is endorsing a VPN service,
FruitVPN, and it's free for now.
So fruitvpn.com, the original article here
is from TorrentFreak, and this was posted
by Shalashalaska on the forums.
It's probably not free for very long.
They've already actually posted about that.
It's apparently not a paid spot for one.
They're apparently just kind of plugging for friends,
which is interesting, and this is not the first VPN
that the Pirate Bay has actually plugged on their website
before, the last VPN that they plugged,
ended up monetizing themselves by filling it
full of adware, which is what people
are a little bit worried about.
But they have said that they're angry
with the whole commercialization of the VPN business, which
is why they created this.
They intended it for it to be free,
at least for a very long time.
But with the fact of them gaining 100,000 users
in like a week or something, they're like, OK,
so maybe not going to be free for all that long.
But they are promising that when it is monetized,
it will be very cheap.
Because there's no real reason why VPNs need
to be as expensive as they are.
And it takes someone to come in and shake up these industries.
I mean, you look at what Blackmagic Design has done
to the production industry, where they just kind of go,
no, we're going to make it.
And then this comes back to our discussion
about what is something worth.
Is it worth what it costs to make plus a markup?
Or is it worth what it's worth to someone minus nothing?
And Blackmagic came in with a bit of a different philosophy,
where they went, well, it's going to cost us
as much to make this thing.
Yeah, it's going to be a little bit buggy.
The firmware updates might come a little bit slow.
But we're going to do our darndest
to deliver this thing for you.
Versus what the guys like Canon or Sony were content to do,
which was build the least good possible thing
that is just incrementally better than the last one,
charge as much as they possibly can for it,
based on how much money they know that people can generate
with this equipment, because professionals
will just have to pay for it.
It's like, what choice do we have?
We have to buy studio lights.
We need lights to make videos.
So however much they charge us for lights,
as long as we can generate enough money
and make enough videos, we'll find a way to pay for them.
Lights are stupid expensive.
The ones we use now are actually pretty cheap.
These are the house brand B&H ones.
But not the keynotes.
No, the keynotes are really expensive.
So yeah, that's, I guess, pretty much it.
So basically their whole thing
is they want to make this VPN make sense
from how much it actually costs
to deliver VPN service to someone and a markup
and how much people are paying for it.
There is some stuff like the,
if you check if they're even able to go to their website,
a lot of the time their website's down.
Let's see if it's up right now.
Yeah, I just had it up.
It is up right now.
Okay, cool.
Yep.
It is down a lot of the time.
They are a quite new website
and with all the traffic they've been getting and stuff,
they are seen as still quite sketchy by scam advisors.
They're showing them at 48%
and showing that they're a fairly unknown reputation website.
There's not a ton known about their company at all.
They're still pretty new.
Yeah, and they have possibly affiliations
with a few other companies like the ISP
that they're buying all of their internet from.
But those, as far as I know,
at this point in time are not necessarily confirmed.
So very interesting VPN popping up.
We'll see, have to see how it goes.
Now the thing about a VPN is you have to at least
have some level of trust for them.
Yeah.
Because all the data is funneled to you.
Yeah, but we'll see.
Obviously a lot of people are using them.
One complaint that I've seen a lot
is that the speed is not very fast.
But that's obviously because they just got
massively hammered by everyone.
So I would probably, if it's too frustrating to use now,
maybe come back in a while and see how it goes.
Because it's gonna be too much for them now.
That's what I was talking about,
like their website being down and stuff.
Whoa.
Okay.
So speaking of scam advisor,
I brought up our scam advisor, linustechtips.com.
High trust rating, this site looks safe to use.
100% looks safe.
Yay!
Yay!
Cool.
Linus Tech Tips Community Forum, domain age, six years.
Oh, that's right,
because it used to have that silly blog on it.
Owner country hidden.
Ha ha.
Yay.
All right, so let's go ahead and go back to-
I don't think that application is right.
But either way, that's fine.
Is that?
I don't actually, yeah, that's not gonna do that.
All right, so moving on to,
oh, we should do our sponsor spots, right?
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Still holding onto that penicillin.
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That's actually pretty interesting.
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It is fully removable and it is,
I think I can even say this, it is bubble proof.
Yeah, I've never seen a bubble on one.
It is, you can't get a bubble under the glass
because it just magically does it itself.
I did a review for Phantom Glass
before we ever took them on as a sponsor
because I've always been pretty sketched out
by cases and screen protectors
because they're all-
Cases for phones.
Garbage, cases for phones, yes.
They're all junk.
And so having a sponsor or even doing reviews,
I reject almost, I don't think,
have we ever done a case review?
I think I did an OtterBox once.
And then I- Yeah, and we destroyed it.
Broke it on camera and then they never talked to me again.
Yeah, so I don't like phone cases.
I think they're all-
Didn't you like partially damage your own phone
during that review?
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Just for you guys so you could know what's up.
Remember that.
Yeah, so for them, I really wanted to see it work
before I was willing to take them on as a sponsor
and it does and it's awesome
and we both feel strongly that they're cool.
They're actually gonna be sponsoring us for CES.
Yeah. That's in the plan.
So we have-
Are we actually doing my little-
Yes, we're gonna do it,
but we're not gonna tell them yet,
but it's gonna be hilarious.
Like the sponsored video we're doing for them
is gonna be a must watch.
A must watch.
Okay, I didn't know it was a secret thing,
but luckily I didn't say anything.
All right, speaking of must watch,
this was posted by card on the forum.
KitGuru.net has an article about how the Titan Z
has dropped in price to the point
where it might actually even make sense to buy one
if you really want a Titan Z.
If you really want a Titan Z.
Oh man, that's funny.
Personally, I'd pick up a couple 970s,
but whatever.
Yeah, I probably would.
If you really want that VRAM,
it does have six gigs of VRAM per GPU.
And with games like Assassin's Creed Unity,
apparently saying that you need a minimum of two,
but we'll get to that later. Which we'll get to later.
Yeah, it might make sense.
It's down to 900 Great Britain pounds, including that.
Now, okay, again, these are very cherry picked numbers.
So 900 was 2,300 Great Britain pounds.
The EVGA version is apparently 1200.
And that particular one, the Palette,
is basically always sold out.
So yeah, a little bit cherry picked numbers,
but it is much, much, much cheaper than it used to be,
which is pretty cool.
Although I feel bad if someone bought it.
At three grand?
Yeah.
I would feel terrible if someone bought it.
Because it was like 2,400 Great Britain pounds.
So I think it was more than $10,000.
In the US, it was three grand MSRP.
So, yeah.
That was pretty rough.
Do we want to move on to the full body mouse chair thing?
Yeah, let's do that.
There's not a ton to talk about.
All right, this was posted by Tech Dreamer on the forum.
And I don't, oh my goodness, what is the link?
Oh, it's in the forum post.
Okay, I'll pull up the video
and I'll let you talk about it while we wait.
So apparently, this is a quote from Govert Flint.
I hope I said that guy's name right.
He's the designer of the dynamic chair.
He said, Western society is so overorganized.
I found it odd that we create tech that's so efficient
that it takes over physical efforts.
So we go to fitness centers to create the movements.
Which is actually a pretty interesting quote.
But the chair that he's created, while interesting,
I think it's absolutely redonkulous.
So you use your feet to click.
You use your legs, like full movement of your legs
to be able to click.
You use your hip movement to scroll.
And then, I'm not even entirely sure how you move the mouse,
but as far as I can tell in the video,
you like manipulate the mouse with your hands.
So this is him, I think, what, left clicking it looks like.
So his left foot is up in the air.
So he's like, yeah, it's just ridiculous.
How's the video coming along?
It's not.
Okay, so yeah.
So it looks like he's left clicking here.
I could be wrong to what he's exactly doing
because it's ridiculously confusing, but.
When like computer peripherals are created by artists
as opposed to engineers,
you end up with solutions like this.
Yeah, yeah.
So like, I admire his whole idea where,
yes, we are making certain things
maybe a little bit too efficient.
So we're having issues with people aren't moving enough
and it's creating serious issues.
Oh, people are sedentary.
Yes, that's actually a problem.
But making something that makes using your computer
nigh impossible is not gonna solve the problem.
Now in his defense, you haven't tried the body mouse.
Nigh impossible's a strong statement.
We should get one.
We already have not enough space here as it is.
Really good comment on the Linus Sectives board,
which I wasn't necessarily gonna bring up,
but I'm gonna go try and find it now
was like the second or third comment, I think.
Let me see.
Speaking of not.
Second comment by Zet Zet.
I can imagine this with Counter Strike.
You would break every bone in your body in a single match.
I'm like, yeah, exactly.
It's like burst, burst firing.
Fire in short bursts.
And then because of how it's like kind of attached to you,
you kicking out like that,
but you'd be moving metal with your whole leg
the whole time.
That'd be ridiculous.
You'd have to be an opper
because there's no way you could fire something that well.
But then the same problem with being an opper
is you can't aim that well,
because you'd have to move your scope by being like,
no, look here.
That's terrible.
Ridiculous.
I don't know.
I admire the idea
because sitting for too long is a serious problem.
Yeah.
I've been looking into a whole bunch of different solutions
for this for a while.
So it's people like Brandon, but.
Yeah, well, he's at a standing desk now.
And when we have the space for it,
I will do some kind of ergonomic improvements for everyone.
So we're probably,
actually the chair review that comes up this weekend,
I'm gonna look into having chairs of that caliber
for everyone.
So all that kind of stuff.
Speaking of which,
this is gonna be coming in a couple of weeks
and I actually didn't tell anyone
that I was gonna tease this at all,
but yeah, let's talk about it.
The decision's pretty much made.
I talked to our accountant, who is my wife,
about how we're doing and we're kind of,
it's borderline, but it's time.
We don't have enough space here.
So Linus Media Group will be moving.
We're in Nick's office right now.
Yeah, we're actually in Nick's office
because he had to- We kicked him out on.
We kicked him out of the other one
because we have too many people in that room now.
And it's just, it's gotten kind of ridiculous.
I mean, for those of you who watched our studio tour,
you'll have seen that our server room is in a bathroom.
That's because there's literally nowhere else to put it
where it won't be too loud to film.
It hurts my soul.
Yeah, it's really bad.
So we are gonna be doing
some kind of a crowdfunding campaign.
We're gonna put together some really cool stretch goals.
We're gonna put together some really cool rewards
and that's gonna be coming probably sometime
in the next couple of weeks.
If you guys have ideas for that, hit me up on Twitter.
Yeah. Luke underscore LFR.
Yeah, not this. Not that.
We gotta get this fixed.
Yeah, we do.
Maybe a stretch goal will be
to get your Twitter handle fixed on Wanchill.
Oh no.
So yeah, guys, stay tuned for that.
We'd love to have your support
because we're looking at hopefully moving into a space
where we can really continue to develop other channels
like Channel Super Fun.
I wanna add a couple more people,
which is part of the reason we need to move
because there isn't space for more people here
so that we can have the time to do that.
I actually have some other ideas for other channels
that we wanna launch.
It's just that we need more resources in order to do it.
So rather than looking for, you know,
investment or whatever else,
we're gonna look to the community to-
And we have some actually pretty cool ideas.
Can I tease some of them?
No, let's wait till the campaign launches.
Let's wait till the campaign launches.
There's some pretty cool ideas.
And again, if you have ideas, let me know
and I'll see about implementing them.
Yeah, we have to do something that's feasible.
Yeah.
We need to have as much fun with it as possible.
So there you go.
Oh my God.
I just thought of another idea,
but I'll keep that bottled for now.
Okay.
Oh, Nick's suggesting that we do a stretched goal
of installing one of those full body stupid mice.
No.
Oh no.
No, that's not gonna be a stretch goal.
We're not doing that.
We'll make Nick use it.
Rekt.
All right.
Speaking of things that we could make Nick use
that wouldn't bother him,
this was posted by Poofoo on the forum
and the original articles from Cnet.com.
What?
Onscreen keyboard.
Little tiny micro movements.
I have to press this exact key.
Oh man.
Oh, that's terrible.
All right.
Sorry, dynamic chair.
Let's move on to a lowly DSL poised for gigabit speed boost.
Sick.
This is pretty exciting
because DSL does tend to give you better latencies than cable
and it's been limited in terms of the speeds
that they've been able to roll out with current technology,
but we could be looking at, what is it?
2016?
Yeah, arrive in homes in 2016.
So there'd need to be new hardware on the ISP level.
There'd need to be new hardware on the consumer level.
So you'd need a new modem,
but we could be looking at up to gigabit speeds
through DSL service with one large gotcha,
which I know you were about to drop.
Fine, go ahead with the gotcha.
Curb your enthusiasm immediately
because to get gigabit speeds,
you have to be within 50 meters of the sending building,
which is probably not gonna be a thing.
At 200 meters, which is still pretty rough,
but it will have a much, much bigger impact than 50 meters,
is gonna be 600 megabits per second.
So that's a huge downgrade already.
So yeah, still a lot better.
Yeah, better than nothing.
Why don't we say that much?
Yes, and it should be a lot easier
for these guys to deploy than fiber.
So you'll probably see it in areas
that were not planned for fiber,
which is gonna be really cool.
Because it's over the phone line.
So anywhere with a phone line can theoretically
get DSL technology at some kind of a speed.
And even if you're not getting gigabit
or even if you're not getting 600 megabits
because you're more than 200 meters out,
which is very likely, it should have some sort of a boost.
See, look, 8% remaining.
But then it says eight hours and 46 minutes.
Cool.
Probably needs a reboot.
Go Windows.
Yeah, anyways.
All right, so let's go ahead
and move on to our next topic here.
And then now it says one hour and 37 minutes.
Photo Math.
Now you were geeking out over this one.
Oh, this is awesome.
Also posted by Tech Dreamer on the forum.
The source is photomath.net.
So this is basically gonna take
needing to keep electronic devices out of exam rooms.
So hardcore.
To a whole new level.
Oh my God.
You are now gonna be checking your phone at the door.
There's no way they're gonna let you
even have it in the bag, I bet.
Oh, dang it.
This is insane.
Well, whatever.
Basically, it gives you what kind of
looks like a QR code reader.
Where there's just like the zone
where you have to have the object within.
And it's a scanner.
So then you highlight it over a mathematical equation.
So say if it's a textbook or whatever.
And it will solve it on the phone, give you the answer,
and then even give you all the steps
that it had to do to get to that answer
so that you would be able to get 100% on the question.
Which is awesome and horrible at the same time.
How is my son gonna learn anything?
Like, think about this.
You're gonna, like studying,
if you have a studying area,
it's gonna have to be a no phone area.
Like, 100%.
Or your son's gonna have to actually
care about knowledge at all,
which is very likely, and won't do this.
One thing that I could see it for
if you're actually interested in learning things,
which you probably should be,
is to use it to check your answers.
Yep.
Because that's cool.
And math textbooks won't have all the steps.
So if you're confused. Some of them do.
But you're right. Yeah, yeah.
Not all of them do.
And it very likely won't for all questions.
And problem sheets from a professor
might not necessarily have all the steps.
In fact, most of the professors I ever met
were phenomenally lazy.
Yes.
So you'd be lucky if you got an answer sheet at all.
So if you're like,
man, I can't figure out how to solve this,
you might be able to do that for one of them,
get all the steps and be like,
okay, well, if I can manipulate this process,
I can solve the other ones.
I can solve this problem group now.
Yes, exactly.
So hopefully people are gonna use it that way.
It doesn't work for everything.
Does it have what it works for here?
So it's not like every math equation in existence.
It's more like stuff like arithmetic,
adding, subtracting, multiplication.
Only if it was this simple to point it out,
like, you know, for Matt's final theorem or whatever,
then you can solve things.
Yeah, that would be fantastic.
So I don't know.
Arithmetic expressions.
So plus minus, multiplication, division,
fractions and decimals, powers and roots,
and simple linear equations.
I'm actually surprised that it even got to,
no, simple linear equations make sense.
So they're constantly adding more features,
but that's what they have so far.
So as of right now,
you're not gonna walk into a calculus class
and be like, ha ha, I got my whole page worth of work solved.
So not gonna happen right now, but I don't know.
Someone high up at that company
has to be a Windows phone dork
because it's available for iOS and Windows phones so far.
And not Android yet.
Android is coming, but it's not yet,
which I found that pretty surprising as well.
I think this is just a phenomenally cool app though
and I'm super, super impressed.
I hope people use it reasonably.
I hope people don't use it just to like
course through school, or sorry.
Coast.
Coast through school.
It's okay, I understood.
I'm sure they understood.
Yeah, but I think people will.
Yeah, of course they will.
And one thing, not to put ideas in people's heads,
but one thing I seriously see happening,
especially with how many cell phones people have these days
and replacing cell phones
and just having that one that's thrown in the drawer,
is that they'll check their cell phone at the door
and then have another one in their pocket,
which is horrible.
Yeah, and when Google Glass-like devices
become just looking like glasses,
and people figure out,
okay, I'm sure it's a matter of time
before people figure out two-way mirror-type systems
to cover up LEDs and lenses and stuff like that
to make it just look like glasses.
I mean, and you think about how tech-savvy
the average TA would be at a typical university.
Are they gonna recognize every model?
Once Samsung, LG, HTC,
Google themselves with a Nexus device,
you know, Huawei or whatever,
unless they all have glasses.
That look just like glasses.
How hard is it gonna be?
And then there was that cool technology
that we talked about last week
where augmented reality was gonna be done
instead of with a screen in front of you
by projecting an image into your eyes.
So when that hits, along with all this other stuff,
I don't know what they're gonna do.
There's some interesting things that might be able to happen.
Like if PhotoMath works
with different education institutions,
maybe they could make it so that if you're on,
like they're,
see, but that would just be public wifi.
Okay, tell me this.
Tell me this, if the guys who are the math geeks already,
who are gonna do math because they're interested in it
and they love it,
and if those guys are gonna do math anyway,
and those are the ones
that are really advancing mathematics,
do I need to know how to do any of this stuff?
Or can I just use an app for my whole life?
But you have to make sure,
like that's the Mozart thing as well.
The old Mozart question where it has to be,
you have to try everyone.
Right.
Because without someone kind of getting into math
a little bit, maybe they're like,
oh, math is stupid, whatever,
I just need to be able to do my taxes,
which is actually very applicable
for quite a few people.
Lots of people.
Yes, and that's part of the idea
where teachers used to be,
and they probably still do,
oh, well you won't always carry a calculator in your pocket,
and nowadays everyone's like,
lol, of course I do, always,
because it's on my phone.
That's right.
This could play into that in the future.
And maybe they utilize this in education.
But then part of higher math is understanding
how the fundamentals work
so you can understand how higher end concepts work.
So I don't know.
That's a question for education.
I think our education system is terrible right now,
so someone should probably figure it out.
That isn't me.
Great tweet from PeanutsRevenge.
Photomath will be a great tool for parents
to help their kids with homework.
Yeah.
So when mom and dad understood this
umpteen bazillion years ago, but.
And now it's like, what?
I could probably barely do long division
the first time around
if you put a problem in front of me.
Once you see it once, you'll be fine.
Once I see it once, no problem.
So I could use photomath to just be like,
oh crap, how do you do that again?
Okay.
And then you can really explain it to Junior.
Because you probably still know
it's just buried in your head somewhere.
So if you can remember like,
oh, that's the first three steps,
okay, I got it, yeah.
Yeah, it's like,
sorry, first, outside, inside, last, right?
Like if I don't remember something like that.
Yeah, but it's simple,
so if you get that cue,
you might be able to remember it
and then help your kid out.
So yeah, that is actually pretty cool.
I think it's a cool app.
I think it's a good thing.
I just like many good things in life.
It's gonna be really easy to abuse.
I hope people don't abuse it.
They will abuse it.
You're a good thing in my life.
Your mom can't call me at the end.
All right, so iPhone 6 catches fire
in a man's pocket, allegedly.
This was posted on the forum by Tigron.
And I, okay, now.
My BS meter's like.
Okay, I was about to say,
I'm not sure what the liability implications are
of us just completely calling BS on this,
but my BS meter is pretty,
pretty going off the charts here.
So Arizona man suffers second degree burns
when iPhone 6 bends and catches fire
in his pocket, he claims.
Said his new iPhone 6 bent in half
and then burst into flames
while it was still in his pocket.
He was in a penny cab as his family headed
to the football tailgate.
They noticed some rickshaw drivers on the street
decided to et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
His wife and seven-year-old son
were not thrown out of their seats
when the wagon lost its balance
and it tipped over something, something,
and that's when his legs started to get hot
and something, something, something.
So holes that I started noticing almost immediately.
One, how is it bent that far if it's in your pocket?
Are you kidding me?
I think there's a still photo of it,
which is probably easier to see the bend.
It should be just above this, isn't it?
So here's the picture, I don't know.
Is there a still above this?
I may have scrolled past it.
Oh yeah, there it is.
Okay, so unless your leg is broken at that angle,
I fail to understand how a phone breaks
at that angle in your pocket.
Yeah, like that doesn't make any sense.
And then like, okay, so he apparently smashed
into the sidebar on the penny cab thing,
which is I think one of those bike.
So that's where the story of it getting bent this way
comes from, I guess.
But then he's like, he's half on, half off.
So he obviously didn't get like crushed there
and then the weight of his wife and his son
continually pressed and continually bent it.
He hit it and then must have been half on, half off.
And then he's like, oh yeah,
I laid down to pull it out of my pocket.
If it's that bent, laying down is not gonna help you.
Yeah.
Like at all.
That and I mean, the whole bend gate thing
I think is grossly exaggerated.
It's not that easy to bend this phone.
Was that a six plus?
This is not a six plus.
Yeah, the six plus is much easier,
but this is just a six, isn't it?
This is an iPhone six.
Yeah, so that's the same phone as that one.
Like the amount that I believe this is almost non-existent.
We probably shouldn't even be talking about this
other than just to say it's like creepy.
Yeah, I don't know.
So there we go.
We still have Assassin's Creed Unity
and all the bull crap that comes with that.
All right, yeah, let's talk about this.
So this was posted by Mind Tricks on the forum
and the source is blog.ub.com.
So it's about as official as it gets.
And the Assassin's Creed Unity minimum specs are dumb.
They are super dumb.
They are so dumb that it's just too dumb.
They're not dumb awesome.
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Okay, so get this, get this, get this.
So processor, minimum required processor is an i5-2500K
or an AMD FX-8350.
Are you freaking kidding me?
Oh, I love that they threw in the Phenom II 940
because that is so much slower than an i5-2500K
that it is not even funny.
Like so much slower.
So that's a minimum requirement.
And then the recommended requirement is a 3770.
Now the funny thing about this is the 3770
supports more threads than an i5-2500K,
but actually is not faster in any meaningful way.
Not to mention that they also recommend an FX-8350
when it was a minimum requirement.
So why did you need to upgrade your Intel CPU
and not your AMD CPU?
Unless this engine is heavily threaded,
which I call complete BS on.
If we get more than three threads, I will be floored.
Yeah, I would be surprised.
And that i5 has four threads, which is fine.
And for that matter, that Phenom X4 has four threads
that are not super duper fast.
Minimum system RAM of six gigabytes.
Now that I, maybe.
I can see that.
I can see that helping in some way.
I don't know that it should be the minimum.
Yeah, the minimums are what are surprising you.
The recommended, I never really even care
what they say for recommended.
I think the recommended makes no sense on video card though.
The minimum makes no sense on video card.
Okay, so here's a couple of things
about the minimum video card spec that make no sense.
Number one is that the GTX 680 is a very, very powerful card.
And for that to be the minimum to run the game
based on the game edge I've seen so far is stupid.
Pathetic.
Also, the GTX 660 Ti is only marginally slower
than a GTX 680.
So why can't that run it?
Why is 680 the cutoff for the minimum?
I don't buy it.
Okay, number two.
And one, sorry, I have to clear up why
a large part of the recommended I don't really care about
is what is your recommended base off of?
Especially with 4K being such a big thing now,
to be able to run 4K at fairly high settings at all,
you usually do need really powerful systems.
So I'm not super surprised that that's happening.
All right, so the recommended one is,
sorry, did you just talk about recommended?
I tuned in.
Okay, so the recommended one, I'm okay with that.
Especially because if the point of this is,
look, we're building a game that's gonna really,
really push the hardware.
So we're just gonna recommend basically
the highest end thing that exists today.
And 780 is pretty darn close.
I mean, it's X percent behind 780 Ti
and 980 or whatever else.
But it's pretty much there.
We're just gonna recommend the highest end thing today
and people might even be able to further leverage
the game as time goes on.
I'm okay with that.
But having a minimum requirement of a 680 is ridiculous.
50 gigs of space, that's becoming par for the course.
None of the rest of it's really that crazy
except for the supported video cards at time of release.
Yeah, this is just stupid.
This comes into why the 680 is their minimum
because their supported video cards at time of release
is 680 or better, 700 series.
And then HD 7970 or better,
which is effectively one and a half generations
of AMD graphics cards because most of the R9 series is...
Rescanning.
Yeah, just...
So like what?
Laptop versions of these cards may work
but are not officially supported.
So basically, the minimum requirement
just looks like a pure cop-out laziness thing.
We are just not gonna bother to validate this game
on any graphics cards.
We are gonna put the onus on the graphics card makers
to ensure that their cards are compatible with this game
going back a couple of generations.
Because let's face it, if a GTX 680 runs it,
a GTX 590 is gonna wreck it.
Ubisoft just keeps on digging.
They cannot stop digging.
Absolutely ridiculous.
The 50 gigabytes of hard drive space
I've seen some people freak out about.
I don't even care about that because that's become a norm
and hard drives are pretty cheap
and you should probably be running your games
off of hard drives.
Speaking of keep on digging,
we actually are planning our next t-shirt design.
So I guess I should probably like open
with an application of some sort or something.
Come on, go faster you.
Yeah, we have our next t-shirt design is Ubisoft inspired.
Because, okay, interesting thing while you get that open.
We were talking before the show started
about how it used to be the hate on origin and hate on EA.
Yeah, hate on origin, hate on EA, hate on all of it.
Hate on analog, hate on all that kind of stuff.
And then EA seems to have lately been like,
whoa, those guys are crazy.
Let's just sit back and just see what happens.
And they just stopped doing things.
No one talks about them because they're not freaking out
and Ubisoft's just throwing dirt around with shovels.
So I don't know, ridiculous.
It's just funny how it used to be the hate on EA show
and now it's kind of the hate on Ubisoft show
because it's essentially just hate on people
that are doing stupid things.
When we used to hate on EA,
I used to talk about how I liked Ubisoft because I did.
I liked a lot of the games that they were releasing.
I liked a lot of the stuff that they were doing.
You have a lot of games in your Uplay account.
I was logged into it a little while ago
because I was benchmarking with his permission.
Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
I do because I've generally liked a lot of the games
that they've released and it feels like back then
they would solely release games
that they felt were solid, good games.
And that does not seem to be a thing anymore.
I mean, you've admitted that the first Assassin's Creed
wasn't really anything that special.
No, but it also seems like the team on the game
was trying extremely hard
and they might be trying extremely hard now as well,
but that's being cut out of the picture
by someone chopping up their results
and then just giving you part of it
and then being like, you can kind of get the rest,
I guess, later.
It's like you get served a pizza and they're like,
oh, sorry, we took a quarter of it
and left it back there.
You can get that as well, I guess,
if you give us more money, which wasn't listed originally.
Or like if servers were allowed to withhold your food
until they got their tip.
Like here's your burger.
You can get your fries once you pay me your tip,
but you know.
Let me know how much the tip's gonna be
and we'll find out if you're getting your drink
and your fries and your dessert.
If you buy your drink and then your fries
and then your dessert, it's 20% more.
If you buy them all at once, it's 20% less.
I'm okay with bundles.
They have that.
It's called a value meal.
But they don't have that in triple-A establishments.
There's no value meal in like a five star restaurant.
Oh, oh, at a five star.
Okay, sure.
Because I was gonna say, like somewhere like Red Robin,
you could argue they have value meal
because you can buy fries,
although you can't buy a burger without fries,
but buying a burger with the fries is a better value
than just buying lots of fries,
especially because the fries are bottomless anyway.
So if you bought lots of fries at Red Robin,
you basically made it.
See, Red Robin's like the complete opposite.
All right, so here it is.
Design!
Woo!
So that's gonna be on the front of probably a black shirt.
And we're gonna launch this, I think, WAN Show next week.
We'll have the Teespring campaign up.
Yeah, I'm getting one of those.
It's gonna be one of those kinds of things.
We're not putting a Ubisoft logo all over it or anything.
It's gonna be more of an inside joke.
But I think keep on digging is just kind of like,
I don't know.
It's become a thing.
And you know what?
If Ubisoft gets out of the target,
if they stop doing stupid things
and someone else starts doing stupid things,
like it's-
You could still wear the shirt.
If EA starts taking up the mantle again,
maybe we'll keep saying keep on digging for them.
Currently, they're not.
Or if Microsoft does a bunch of really stupid stuff
for a bit, then-
Which is probably gonna happen.
It'll happen at some point.
Yep.
So yeah, it's more multi-purpose,
but for now, it's standing for them.
All right, so this was posted by Amorous,
Amorous, something of Pixels, anyway.
Original articles from Popular Mechanics
and the thread title on the forum,
I have to agree with so much,
is I have lost faith in humanity
or something like that.
Officially done with humanity.
Officially done with humanity.
A Comic Sans typewriter has been created.
So there you go.
And remember guys, this is not as simple
as just putting Comic Sans on the keys.
They actually had to create the metal arms
with Comic Sans print on the end
so that you could, the sincerity machine.
I hadn't even noticed that before.
So if you thought the world needed
a Comic Sans typewriter, A, go jump in a fire,
and B, there's officially a typewriter for you.
You know what the funny thing is,
is I'm making fun of Comic Sans
and jump in a fire and all that.
I used nothing but Comic Sans pink bold italicized
for the entire time that MSN Messenger existed.
I know.
Oh yeah, I used to chat with you on MSN.
Yep, fuchsia, sorry.
Fuchsia, Comic Sans, bold italics.
Why did they take MSN away?
I love MSN, it should come out.
Speaking of things that-
Skype is inferior in so many different ways.
The entire internet has blown up
over Smash Bros for Wii U.
Nintendo apparently wants to sell
100 bazillion copies of this game
because they are making it look freaking amazing.
Yep.
A player Smash is the headline,
but honestly, there are a dozen other features.
They did, what was it, like a 15 minute video
with 50 features of Smash Wii U
that are just all of which are good
and many of which are just blowing the minds
of the entire internet.
I'm so stoked.
So, do you wanna do some highlights here?
There's a bunch of different things.
You can use your DS as a controller, we already knew that,
but if you bring your character over
that you created on your DS side,
it brings everything with it,
which is actually really cool.
And not just, you can use your DS as a controller.
You can use pretty much any controller you want
unless you wanna use a Sega Genesis controller
for some reason, like GameCube, Classic Controller,
Wiimote, Nunchuck, Wii U Controller, 2DS, like-
All of the different pro controllers.
Sorry, I think it's 3DS only, isn't it?
2DS or 3DS, I believe.
Okay.
Yeah, all of the different pro controllers,
Nunchuck, normal Wiimote.
Absolutely bananas.
There's the eight player Smash, seven player Smash,
whatever you wanna do.
Four player online.
Yeah, only four player online.
And certain maps won't be playable online as well
because they have these massive maps now
for eight player Smash,
which I'm actually super excited for.
That looks super cool.
Yeah, they have maps with two planes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there's the foreground and the background.
They have, what is it even called?
It's like, I don't remember exactly what it's called,
but it looks like a tabletop mode.
And you play this kind of board game
and whenever your characters on the board
run into each other, it creates a Smash battle.
And while you're going around the board game,
you collect different characters and stuff.
And in the final battle, your stock count,
so your lives, is based on what characters you have.
So when you die, you just sort out,
which is actually super cool.
I'm excited to play that.
If you have a bunch of people over,
that could actually be a lot of fun,
which is exactly why I like Nintendo.
And, oh, oh yeah, did I even mention already
1080p 60fps?
So epic, so epic.
Yeah, that needed more than one of those.
I did it so many times, I'm blurry.
That's how owned everyone else got by Nintendo
with Super Smash.
And there was a ton of other really cool announcements
as well.
Yeah, you guys should definitely check out the video.
It is worthwhile because it looks fantastic.
Team battles with up to four teams.
That is gonna be bananas.
I mean, it's gonna be like risk alliances,
like friend-breaking stuff, but Smash Brothers.
One thing that I really liked was just
how they announced the eight-player Smash.
Because they're like, five people.
So now if you're the fifth wheel, it's fine.
Also, by the way, six people.
Also, by the way, seven, eight people.
It's like, oh my God.
It's like, keep on blowing my mind over and over again.
It's like watching Sesame Street.
It's like going, five, ah, ah, ah, ah.
Six players, ah, ah, ah, ah.
Love it.
Pretty stoked.
All right, that's pretty much it, guys.
Thank you for, oh, did you wanna do the system builds
of the week that I missed for two weeks in a row?
I would love to do system builds in the week
that you missed for two weeks in a row.
But the link that was added to the doc
totally doesn't work at all.
Okay, next week.
So I don't know what to do about this.
I was not emailed anything.
We're supposed to draw the ZOTAC 980 winner.
Yeah, let's do that.
That's fun.
If someone can figure out how to get me those,
that would be great.
The link in the doc doesn't work at all
and I don't have an email from it.
So I can't do anything about it.
I have this.
Does this look right?
That is a thing.
We can preferably use the forum,
but if the forum is not working, we can use this.
Okay, let's just use this then.
Does that work?
Yeah, so what this is is Ghost created a script
which works kind of in conjunction with all of the scripts
that the mod team have created and all of that awesomeness,
which we are removing duplicated posts from the thread.
And then this script goes through and indexes all of them.
So you can find the end of it and then do a random
between one and the last entry on there.
And then if you just control F for that number,
you'll have your winner.
Let's do this thing then.
So 1,200, 12,300.
Yeah, that's okay.
12,354 entries.
Okay, and let's go ahead and share my screen.
So we're gonna move this
so you guys can actually see it this time.
And oh, in the meantime,
we want you guys to think about this
and start hitting up at Luke underscore LAFR on Twitter
with some suggestions
because we are doing $130 motherboard roundup spectacular.
This is gonna be a multi-part video
and we're not gonna be looking at performance.
So put that out of your mind.
It's specifically what we're not looking for.
We're not looking for that overclocking.
We might briefly validate
that they all kind of get to the same level,
but they all do that anyway.
We're not gonna be looking at overclocking.
We're not gonna be looking at performance.
We're gonna be looking at usability.
So some examples would be things like
how fast are their download servers
when you're looking for your new drivers,
when you build your rig.
Examples like for USB BIOS updates,
how easy is the process?
How's compatibility of the back USB ports
with a variety of USB drives when you're reading off of it
in order to flash your BIOS?
We're gonna be looking for
how good is the experience of this motherboard?
Because really that's what I think is more important
than performance these days
where they're all pretty darn similar.
One thing I even wanna look into is like
how many clicks to do certain different things?
Right.
Like just how efficient is it to use it?
How efficient is the BIOS to navigate?
Yeah. Great example.
If you need to change to raid mode on your,
say to controller or whatever else,
like I think we won't look at it that granularly
when we actually do the video,
but that's what the evaluation will be based on
is how navigable is the thing.
All right, so the winner is 3,015.
Let's go ahead over to 3,015, 3,015.
No, I want the other one.
3,015.
There it is.
Barry Preston Slade Jr.
So let's go ahead and find Barry Preston Slade Jr.
on the forum.
The lucky winner,
which of course has to be claimed through the forum
so that we can actually contact you.
Please be working.
Sorry?
Please be working, yay!
Okay, this is probably not gonna work.
Probably not gonna work at all.
Oh yeah, that search field.
You're probably gonna have to use your other view
and you're not gonna wanna look right now
because, oh, you're not streaming.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, don't worry, it's all good.
It's all good.
I'm okay.
Everything is okay.
Oh, here, here, here, here, here.
There we go.
Boop.
And let's just go ahead and have a look.
There you go.
Oh hey, everyone always complains
when it's a one post wonder who wins.
This time it is a 14 post wonder
who actually has his profile filled out
and was last active today.
Awesome.
So there you go.
We managed to pick a winner who is someone who,
even though they don't post a lot.
The last active thing, I think,
matters almost more than anything else
because that's showing,
because I don't care, honestly, if you post it all.
If you're on the forum and you're reading everything,
that's super cool too.
Yeah, everything's cool.
I mean, posting is great
because helping other people is what it's all about,
but being someone who was on the forum two hours ago,
so is an active forum member,
even if maybe not the most active contributor,
I think is super cool.
Yeah, me too.
So we're gonna push build logs to,
oh, did you find them?
Got it.
Are we good?
So forwarding to you now.
Well, hold on, no, it's okay.
You just go with it.
I don't have a viewer installed.
You do.
Forwarding to you.
Are you sure you don't have PowerPoint on that?
Yep, I checked.
Well, I didn't check.
Are you sure?
Can you double check?
Yeah.
You do not.
Alrighty then.
I will deal with it.
It was forwarded to you now.
Okay.
You should have that.
My download speeds are terrible.
Yeah, I don't know what's going on right now.
The access point is too far away.
Although, actually, I have something interesting
to tell you.
Yeah, no, I saw that.
I was super stoked.
So this is an eight,
no, actually, this is a $1,000 access point.
Yeah, this is the R700.
This is their highest in the access point.
No, I know.
I never looked into how much it costs
because I didn't want to know.
It is a $1,000 access point.
And I am going to be having a,
we're gonna be looking at a series of videos about this.
And the way that we're gonna be approaching this,
this is an enterprise grade.
This is like for airports.
Ruckus is badass.
Ruckus is some serious stuff.
So the way that we're gonna be looking at this Ruckus gear
is high-end, very high-end enthusiasts.
Don't blink twice about spending $700 on a graphics card.
Some of them will even spend that much times three
and they'll buy three graphics cards.
High-end wireless equipment is something
that you can actually get multiple generations out of
the same way that you can with something like a monitor,
especially now that development has slowed down
so much on it.
And if you were to look at it and go, okay,
instead of investing in three-way SLI,
I'm gonna skip a generation.
I'm gonna put a controller and a couple of really
high-end access points in my house.
I want to look at what the benefit will actually be.
So I'll be taking a real world scenario, in this case,
a house, and I will be putting a controller
and two of these access points in it
and having a look at how it compares to one central AP,
the way that most people do it today
with just your router access point combo unit.
I'm gonna be looking at it compared to Ubiquiti
because I have those AC access points
that were doing really well for me at first,
but now I'm having actually a lot of problems with.
I had to RMA both of my first ones.
Yeah, that's real.
And then we're gonna move to Ruckus
and we're gonna see what range looks like
throughout the house with really demanding applications,
things like Nvidia Game Stream,
and have a look at if it really makes a difference
and if something like that is worthwhile.
So that's gonna be a really interesting video.
And at the same time, I'm gonna do it in my house
because that way I can justify upgrading to cat six
all over my house at the same time.
So this is his ruse to jack a thousand dollar access point.
I could, well, I could mount anything
to that access point mount there.
Ridiculous.
I can promise this.
I can promise when we move,
we will get some kind of managed multiple access point
system at the new place.
We will need one at the new place.
We will need one at the new place.
So what was I talking about now?
We're going to build logs.
So you have that right there at the top.
Oh, I should have been downloading that.
That was my whole concept was to.
I thought you were actually.
That's unfortunate.
Oh, well.
Hold on.
Let's see.
I think there's just one button.
Download.
That downloads it in a zip.
That's okay, I can unzip for you.
No, I don't know if that's cute or dirty.
Oh, it's both.
We need, we need a shirt for cute and dirty too.
Yeah.
Cute and dirty.
And it should be like a CPU with like thermal compound.
Oh, that's awesome.
That's kind of funny.
That's actually pretty good.
I'm, I'm dirty with like a CPU
that hasn't been cleaned off.
I kind of liked that.
We should probably do that.
All right.
I'll fire it to Nick while that's done.
Sure, thank you.
Wow, I can't believe how many more people
watch the show when you're around.
We peaked at like 5,500 viewers today.
When with you gone, I think we peaked at around 4,500.
So you're officially still justifiable
as the latest media group employee.
That was close.
The thing about, the thing about employees
or like team members, any team member, me included,
is like the real test is not what they do
when they're around.
So what happens when they're not?
It's how hard it is to compensate when they're not around.
How valuable is that person?
Well, if I just about die when they're gone for a week,
then I guess they should probably still work here.
My metric was when you guys missed an upload.
I was like, whoa.
When you were gone?
Yeah.
No, we didn't miss a day.
I thought you did.
No.
I was pretty sure you did.
No, what we did was we started delaying the release
till four hours.
No, we didn't miss one.
That schedule just got bumped four hours
and we could easily pull it in four hours.
Everything is okay.
I thought you guys missed a video.
I was like, okay, that hasn't happened in like, what?
That made no sense to me.
The one time that happened was something
where we were preparing content for a trip
and that product ended up being embargoed
and we didn't know.
Yeah.
And so.
That didn't really count.
That sort of didn't count,
even though we did officially miss an upload day,
but then we do event coverage
where we do multiples in a day.
So we're averaging more than one a day for over three years.
Yeah.
Okay.
I am having a little trouble understanding
why this is multiple PowerPoint files.
You should only actually need two.
I think what they've been doing,
because we were wondering about this last time,
but if I remember correctly,
what they're doing is they send the whole file
and they send just the presentation versions.
Oh, okay.
So you can change things if you want,
or you can just use what should be the smaller ones.
So it's two and three is what you're looking for.
There's no one.
So you need two and you need three.
Okay.
All right, well, here's the first one.
I have officially figured this out.
Oh, hold on.
Let me make sure whatever's in the background here
is not something that needs to not be
in the background of our videos.
All right, here we go.
Linus' screen share.
No, it doesn't look like they included.
Project Rain Dawn.
Who won which one?
So I don't think it says who this was voted through.
I don't know if this was voted for by the mods
or if this was voted by the community.
Okay, well we can conclude that they definitely won
a build of the month award.
Okay, so pretty high-end specs.
Wow, that's kind of badass.
Kingpin classified, that's sick.
I love these hardware shots.
And it's like here's all the stuff
that I'm gonna put into one very small place very, very soon.
Really like this.
These SSD mounts look really cool.
And cable management on the back.
Oh, that looks good.
Inside looks really good here though.
You know what, we're actually gonna look into,
I really like this whole straight line thing,
but what I don't really like is having to use fittings
for it like this, having to use angled fittings
and soft tubing to achieve it.
So we'll be looking into doing some kind of a build log
or build guide with hard tubing sometime in the near future.
I shouldn't say near future.
Sometime in the future that will happen.
Because oil-cooled machine is happening first.
That is happening, we have started that.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if I could say that or not.
We have started that and done actually a lot of it.
Yeah, so that's gonna be friggin' awesome.
So here's our second one.
This laptop's doing some funky stuff right now.
But no, don't worry about it, we're good.
Okay, so ROG Maximus VI Extreme, GTX 780 SLI,
Elite Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition fans, and lots of, oh wow.
Whoa.
Wow, that case.
That is sick.
I like it.
I almost like the raw more than the black.
Me too, actually.
Mind you, that's all right. Whoa, maybe not.
Okay, this one's nice.
I'm assuming what happened was the last one
was voted for by the mods and this one was voted for
by the community.
The community really likes them, them super clean builds.
Them super perfect builds, wow.
Look at this reservoir.
Love it, it looks like a freakin' reactor thing,
like stasis module plumbed up-ness.
That's great.
Absolutely love it, what a great build.
All right, so thanks for tuning into the WAN Show, guys.
We'll see you again next week.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
Peace out.
Bye.
Definitely doing an after party this week
and there's gonna be some funky stuff happening.
Just so you guys know.
Dang it.
What's going on?
Oh yeah, you did, oh yeah.
Oh, that's the one with no sound.
Well, screw it.
Well, the doot, doot, doot.
Maybe if I clench hard enough, nope, I'm dead.
You ready to do this?
Okay, we were a little late on the sound effect,
but whatever, you guys get the point.
All right, thanks for watching.
See you next week.
We're done here.
Bye bye.