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There's a Star Wars ad playing on twitch in my ears that I'm what it's Lego bb-8
Well, you can play as bb-8. You can't even be mad about this. Like it's awesome
I am actually really not that wow, you can't mute it and you can't pause it anymore. Welcome to twitch
You can't just say watch this thing glitches. Oh, it's funny. You can't just say I
This is ridiculous, you can't just say no, I actually don't want to watch the stream in my own dashboard. I
Actually just want to monitor chat and make changes to the stream. I still can't pause it
Welcome to the wan show guys. We've got a lot of great topics for you today and some fairly mediocre ones and
Some that are actually just downright boring, but we're gonna do our best to spice them up and
What are you doing? I'm being a bro
You've been a bro. Yeah, I give them thumbs up. Give them another thumbs up. Give them both thumbs up
Give this hand a high-five give that hand a high-five
So you're like a self bro. Yeah self bro bro yourself. Yeah, okay, bro yourself
So Germany's fusion reactor creates hydrogen plasma in a world first, which is kind of like, you know hydrogen atoms
growing each other
Microsoft is testing underwater data centers
Microsoft is testing underwater data centers a world first
Yeah, and Google is gonna be beaming 5g internet from like solar drones and stuff
Which is a world hopefully they don't bro themselves because then they fall. Yeah, broing planes is bad
Plane bro, plane bro. Don't want to do that
Anyways, also Microsoft Windows 10 is really annoying when it tries to like do the thing automatically
Do the thing automatically not just tries when it succeeds when it doing things automatically breaks your computer. All right, let's roll that intro
Microsoft
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You know, it's just loose Wow, wow, so that's just by the way you're in charge of this
So this guy right here
So this guy right here is like, oh, yeah here look at look at the twitch chat
Look at the twitch chat look at the twitch chat and the message is just like Luke is one fine
Specimen of a human man or something like that. I thought it said line is and I'm desi line is just down
I said no, I thought it's yeah, so I'm so and I'm just like
Okay, why are you showing me this it's like yeah, I get it you're hot
You don't have to rub it in my face
Rub your hotness in my face. It could at least be after the show. I
Was trying I thought that I was trying to share a compliment from someone else to you
I didn't realize that I was trying to share a couple it from someone else to me with you
It's like I mean, what's next? Are you gonna like a screenshot it and send an email to your mom. Hey mom
Look, it's random person on the internet likes me. Look mom. You made a good human
Let's jump right into our first topic from giving TNT on the forum original article here is from
IFL science.com want to throw us over on my oh, wow
Yeah with you in charge of the links and changing this that's gonna be kind of hard Germany fusion reactor creates
Hydrogen plasma in a world first now this
Right here. I mean, yeah, we did seven gamers one CPU. We're talking $30,000 computer
No, my friends that is a 1.1 billion
dollar fusion reactor
But like the idea you want to go back. Oh, no, I'm just I I realized though. We are not here
Do you remember which one we are? No, but I can figure this out while you talk
That's not it
Anyways one of those huge but yes, it costs a lot right now, but the idea is that you can make basically back
Limitless clean energy which is like kind of maybe worth kind of something we need right now
I was talking to Taryn about this in the car the other day actually Taryn is both
irritating and fun to talk to you in the car because
He yeah, it could be wonderful. Yeah, or it can be just sort of like
Why would I care? Why do you care? Why would anyone care about this Taryn?
Please for the love of all that is good move on. Thank you
Um, sure, okay, I'll go like this. Yeah, or I'll like or I'll like touch your thigh. Okay, okay
Anyway, he was saying that we've used up something along the lines of half of the world's oil reserve
The only reason we have oil is because of there being a lot of oxygen in the air like 200 million years ago or something
Ridiculous like that and we had global forests
Which at the time because there was nothing that could break down that could decompose would would just fall on top of each other
Global firestorms they've burned and they'd fall on top of each other some more and then in the swamps all this eventually turned into
Yay
petroleum so
When we run out of oil, which we probably won't for a very very very very very long time
It's just gonna get a lot more expensive
Because we're gonna have to extract it from people to get to it. It's like yay Canadian economy. We're gonna have to
Extract it from places like the oil sands where the price has to be higher in order to make it economical to do it
Um, so we're not gonna be able to rely on it to nearly the same extent that we can now so electricity
Like sounds well fine and good. It's like yeah, I've got an electric vehicle
I'm helping the environment except that your electric vehicle is
Probably being charged with electricity that was produced
from burning coal
Depends where you live depending on where you live here in BC. No, then it's legitimately actually falling water
That's taking care of most of you. In fact, our our power company is called BC hydro
Hydro that is not our water company. I don't even know what our water company is called to be fair. It's probably both
We're not that big
They might just have one group manage all of it
So BC hydro like it's pretty much all hydro power up here
but if you if you live somewhere where most of the power is being provided by coal is actually
It's not like I believe it is still better to produce the electricity in one place
Economies of scale etc, etc, but it's not like, you know, yay. I'm just using renewable energy sources or anything like that
Sorry, I'm really not feeling well this week I'm having sort of a sort of a great week. I'll be feeling well on
Yeah, my we've got a new employee here who came in and
started giving everyone these crazy like weekly video quotas and stuff like that trying to organize us like
I guess on track the weekly video quarters are obscene right now, but there's reasons for that that we can't necessarily
Yeah, yeah that we'll get more into later. But um, basically we've just we've been really busy. We've had a lot to do and
I'm sorry. Um, ah
anyway, so
Producing electricity there are ways to do it that are green
You know solar looks pretty good wind looks pretty good title looks promising
Hopefully at some point in the future and a bit, you know hundred years from now or whenever we can figure that out
but the problem with those things is that I mean wind even if we
It could increase the efficiency to dramatically beyond what we have today is
Not even close to what the energy needs of the world are going to be moving forward and reliance
Solar is still really not very close. It's not economical right now
Okay, it might not be super economical, but you could actually power an amount of stuff
If you set it up all properly, and there's a lot of work that would need to go into that
Yes, so we're not I don't mean not close in terms of the efficiency of the panels that is advancing
It just leaps and bounds right now, but in terms of the economies of actually rolling it out
I mean we all saw that solar freakin roadways video which turned out to be just
Completely a pipe dream nothing to do with reality
You know where they were claiming that these solar roadways would have the same or better traction characteristics compared to concrete which
Like wasn't a thing at all
There's a lot of other problems. Yeah, there were a lot of huge amounts of problems with that whole thing lots of problems
But there's there's there will be a solution, but if not then at the very least
Fusion we're hoping is the answer. So what was really cool about what they did here
in the
1.1 billion dollar 19 year project
This is the the experimental reactor the Wendelstein 7x in Germany
What they managed to do was to initiate the fusion process which requires extremely high temperatures around a hundred million
Degrees Celsius like actually extremely high
And then at these temperatures the atoms of hydrogen become energetically excited and form a plasma cloud now
You know in order to be sustained. This is great the atoms of hydrogen
The plasma cloud cannot touch the cold walls of the reactor. So it requires
425 tons of superconducting supercooled magnets you remember that cost came from that keep it suspended
And then at high ignition temperatures along with an effect called quantum tunneling the hydrogen particles begin to collide and fuse
Which releases energy and forms heavy elements now?
There is a bit of a problem. This reactor was not designed to produce energy. It is an experimental reactor
It's designed to recreate the conditions found deep within the Sun
but if nothing else any progress that is being made on fusion power is
Extraordinarily notable because it is much cleaner and much more sustainable than fission
Which is what we're using now where you break apart the atoms you end up with all this horrifying atomic waste
Like you you like you kind of drew out the word fish in a little bit. Did I?
You said I don't know you I might have heard you wrong, but I thought you said fishing. I have a cold
Yeah, I know but it sounds like it's much more effective than fish and the fish is just not bringing us that much energy
Yeah, I was burning those fish all night and all I got was dinner
And it weren't very good cuz I burned it oh
So I've got people saying burning coal is burning coil is still better
Burning coil are we talking like coilers?
Is that the conversation we're having right now come actually not I'm legitimately not sure
All right, this is really cool Microsoft testing underwater data centers want to fire me over to the next one?
All right, this is really cool Microsoft testing underwater data centers want to fire me over to over to my screen here
So sorry, this is called project
Natick Natick, I don't know how it's pronounced anyway
it came from a research paper that was written in 2014 by several Microsoft data center employees and if we head over to the
There we go. So here's a really here's a really cool look at the prototype
I'm actually going to drop back over to the dock and fire up the
actual site here and
Now what I originally envisioned when I read about this when I heard okay underwater data centers
I thought more along the lines of a traditional data center
So where you've got like a building and then you've got hours and stuff
Yeah, and then you've got like cabinets upon cabinets. I thought they were gonna dunk things that looks like shipping containers. I
Was wrong so we were both wrong. We're both wrong fault
the
objective here is to eliminate the costs associated with air conditioning well with cooling with cooling a data center, which is
enormous like freaking enormous
So what I had kind of thought and in my brain because I'm not a Microsoft engineer
Obviously was they were gonna build these underwater, you know, like bubble dome things
I didn't really think it would necessarily be a dome but domes are you know structurally sound
Yeah reason for it to not be anyway
so they would fill it with cabinets and racks and servers and then what I was kind of thinking was okay, so
where they would normally water cool a server and then have that go to an air conditioner or have that
Heat exhaust into the atmosphere. They would water cool the server is pretty much exactly the same way, obviously
They would water cool the servers exactly the same way and then I wasn't sure whether they would use salt water
For the actual cooling and then they'd have to develop like cooling systems that are resistant to corrosion, obviously
Or if what they would do was they would would they would just take like a gigantic
Essentially like a gigantic heat sink and put it next to the data center and then run their fresh water
Cooling through that in order to cool it ocean again also wrong. I was going more that direction
I thought they were gonna use basically like not an actual shipping container
But shipping container size kind of thing and then use the entire outside of it as a giant heat sink that water
Okay, so we're both wrong wrong. That's a crab
So let's have a look at what it actually looks like. So here it is next to a person for scale on a boat here and
The way that they're actually planning to do it is the data center would be quite spread out
So you would have a whack ton of these things deployed all over the place and then they would be tethered together
By it sounds like steel cables and fiber optic links
So the actual cooling of the unit looks like it's being handled here
But I don't necessarily have all the full details and works or anything
Yeah, and we're like my idea was if you had to do some maintenance on the thing you would I don't know take a submersible
Down there and work on it or something or like
Obviously kind of stupid because that's that's really hard
Whereas with these without taking everything offline you would just pull the unit up and work on it now with that said
They don't plan to work on them very often
the objective would be to have each of these capsules good for a lifetime of about
20 years and then the plan would be to bring them up about every five years to replace the hardware
Similarly to what they would do in the data center now
Where's that? Yeah, because they don't necessarily just cycle out hardware at a data center when it breaks
They cycle out hardware at a data center when they get new stuff to not only stay ahead of the curve
But also to avoid problems like harbor being old and just breaking because it's old
Yeah, because the cost of having you know a hundred dollar an hour
You know a server like like data center administrator running around swapping out RAM modules
It's super not worth it
They even have tools not just one cool thing for like a super computers and stuff where they swap out the CPUs from time to
Time. Yeah, they have tools that mass swap CPUs
That's cool. They have like grabbers that can take like six at a time and like swap them in and stuff like it's crazy
Yeah, anyways, sorry random little tidbit moving on
Um, so yeah, so there's some there's a lot of advantages here. So there's the cooling advantage
There's the advantage of being able to get the data center and like I feel like calling it a data center
It's sort of a misnomer they need a new term for it because it's not it's more like a data link center or something
Link, it's the center doesn't work though. Yeah, because it's kind of spread out
I don't know what they want to call it because well and remember to the data array link. We're thinking very short-term
Microsoft is thinking 20 years 20 years from now
That could be a data center. Yeah, but would you I don't think you'd call it Center because like Center's literally
Like I don't know I guess cuz like the way I'm thinking about it is in order to replace sort of the traditional data center
They would need like hundreds or thousands of those like spread out and linked together
Whereas I mean maybe and then here's oh, here's one of the things they're talking about one advantage would be the proximity to the users
The proximity to the users. So instead of me linking to a data center in California somewhere up here in British Columbia
They would have one of these just right off the coast
Yeah, where you don't have to deal with all the you know, right-of-way for running
connections you don't have to deal with
The the real estate involved in in building something like that. So so the actual link speed would could potentially be better
Um
So, I don't know like would would you call it a center if it was serving like the entirety of BC in Alberta or something
I would not call it a center. You still wouldn't call it a center because it's not a centrally located thing
So you're thinking of Center in sort of the literal sense, yeah, so it should be like we're talking spokes
Yeah, it has to be at the center of a lot of spokes. Otherwise you lose. Yeah
Interesting. Okay. I don't know if that's I think that's what it's kind of referencing. I'm not entirely sure
Let's see what the twitch has to say about my theory. This is another advantage to it too
is that combined with some other technologies like here's an idea to
Pool cluster
Good job
So here's another idea that they could use like them one
Something whatever they're talking about these like
Like these containers that they could suspend beneath the surface of the ocean and they could combine these with like a turbine or a title
System in order to actually power the things as well or at least help power them
So it could help with power it could help with proximity to data and it could help with cooling with I guess the one major
Disadvantage being that if anything goes wrong with it, it is under the freaking ocean
But you know, I don't know hopefully they thought of that so they figure if they mass produce the capsules
They probably have yeah, they probably have a ways for like pass through so one goes down
They can just skip it temporarily even fix it later on. I mean Microsoft's not exactly new to the yeah old data game
So yeah, hopefully they've got it figured out
So while Microsoft is headed under the ocean
Google has its sights set on the sky. So this is posted by da best Jr on the forum
The original article here is from Engadget and it says Google plans to beam 5g internet from solar
Drones, which I read the headline and I was like, sorry
What solar drones like drones on the Sun? Oh
Oh, what do you mean solar power drone? Yeah solar power drone. So the picture made it pretty pretty clear
Yeah, there we go. So these drones would be I believe it's what is it like?
optionally
optionally piloted
Yeah, yeah, so you could be you could control it remotely or it could just fly around on its own
They've actually got permission to test them up until
July or something like that. I will find it in a moment
So the plan is for these to be perpetually powered by the Sun
Hence the entire top of the wing and I'm gonna call this
Elevator, but I know the elevator is actually just a little flap that goes in the back of it
So you'll have to forgive me as well as the rudder here
Entirety of it is covered in solar solar panels. And then what it would do is it would actually act as sort of a
replacement for the traditional cell phone tower
So the issue with cell phones right now with with
faster data speeds and with
Adding more customers to the network. Is that the spectrum that is traditionally used is
pretty
Darn chock-full. I mean we even had an incident this week last week last week last week last week
Oh this week. Well, we fixed it this week. Oh
Whatever. We had an incident about a week ago where Rogers one of the local cell phone providers came to our office
And they were like yo, you guys need to turn off your cell phone booster. We were like what it's like
It's it's good in Canada. Like we checked we made sure and they're like
Well, you guys have got a problem where you are causing some kind of attenuation nonsense
Our intent are in our antenna inside was too close to our antenna outside the building and they were basically
Blasting like kind of screeching on part of Rogers's band and so our our provider
We're almost all on Bell here in the building never said anything to us about it because it's not their frequent spectrum
They don't care but
But the guy from Rogers was like, yeah
You guys are gonna have to turn that off until you can get the thing fixed and it's not just like them trying to protect
Their band like that could make it so that Rogers customers wouldn't be able to like call emergency services
Yeah, so I mean we totally didn't realize and they're like, yeah, you know, that's that's how it is
Most of the time people don't realize so, you know, yeah
Hey
just turn it off for now get it fixed and then let us know when you turn it back on so we can check and
See if we have any issues and I was talking to the guy and he was telling me like yeah
this is this is um, like a huge problem for them and
So this this is this is a story you told me apparently a news van
like a local news van was shooting a story down in the West End of Vancouver and
They were still using just like some some audio packs some audio equipment that was
Utilizing spectrum that had since been purchased by Rogers and when when these things happen
There is like a phase out period like you've got three years to you know
for this industry to stop using it and then you've got another two years like grace period and then it's
illegal
and Rogers paid something like I don't know four billion dollars or something stupid like that for the spectrum so that they could
So that they could provide better coverage for their customers anyway
Um, so he's like, yeah
I went out to investigate this thing turns out it was this news van and they knocked out the cellular service for pretty much that
Entire area. Oh my god. Yeah, just by by broadcasting their their news broadcast on that spec
Okay, theoretically, what can he even do about that though? Because that's a consumer using a product that they bought. Uh
No, that is a news
Like that is a news publication like a like a professional publication
That would have been that is subject to the law for one thing. So the law of not
interfering with non, but can you just write a law and then
Make it so that people can't have to buy new things like that seems really
Short-sighted. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you can. Oh, yeah happens all the time. In fact, our our to Sennheiser
Ew110 g3 packs one of them is gonna go obsolete
in a while then and they are not interoperable because
The regulations were changed and so Sennheiser had to revise the skew that they were selling in Canada
That is super annoying. Totally a thing. Definitely. Yeah
So anyway, that's but but I mean this underlines my point some people just did some facepalm thing
I know like guns and whatnot, but it seems weird for consumer electronics to be able to be ripped from people's hands
Mm-hmm
But that is that is the way it is and this underlines my point where what I'm trying to say is that's how crowded
the available
Radio spectrum is that we're fighting tooth and nail paying billions of dollars for access to use
tiny tiny slivers of it and ripping the electronics out of
People's hands telling them they have to buy new ones because it is now illegal to use them
Like that's how crazy it is. So coming back to the solar drones and the 5g internet. The plan is to use millimeter wave
so
It is believed that millimeter waves are capable of transmitting data 40 times faster than LTE with the issue being
That millimeter waves have pretty much zero penetration power and very limited range
So millimeter wave is the same stuff that they use to scan you at the airport
Just so you guys know so like it can barely
Penetrate like I think it's how much of your skin does it manage to like not very much
So so you think about okay. Yeah, what if my cell phone ran on millimeter wave all of a sudden?
Let's say the towers on the other side of Luke and I go and I lean forward. Boom. My call dropped. Oops
I mean obviously just like we've had in the past. We're gonna have fallbacks to 4g 3g
I mean hell I think even edge shows up every once in a while does somehow
like there's they're still out there, but
You you obviously like you don't want your high-speed data going on and off every time you like lean toward someone
So that's why taking this stuff off the towers and putting it way up in the air above the consumer
could help
Could help with the growing demands for data in the future
So, I guess that's pretty much all I have to say about that
It's really cool seems like a cool idea. I mean, I love the idea of solar solar aircraft
It's becoming more and more a thing. It sketches me out
Like I mean the first time one of these crashes and like hit somebody Oh a drone
Yeah, it's gonna be like such a scam like I don't think
Has anyone actually just been smoked by a random like flyaway drone yet?
I know the kid got his eye injured but but like he was like watching his uncle fly it like he was like right there
He was involved in the action
Whereas has anyone had a drone like just to kind of take off like, you know, you got flyaways sometimes and like hit
Someone's grandma yet. I'm sure twitch chat is gonna is gonna tell me there was that Olympian the skier or whatever
Do you hear about that? It didn't hit him. I don't think it but it landed like right behind him
It's one of those big industrial ones. I
Did hear about that. I never saw the video though. I don't I don't think it hit him though
So I don't think that counts it landed behind him, I believe
So we kill himself with his own drone that's not yeah, not quite what I'm talking about
I'm talking about like whether it's like an Amazon delivery drone or some other kind of commercial drone or like some random job
Like someone where they had no involvement in the drone experience other than to be hit by it completely out of nowhere
Yeah, I mean the first time it happens it's gonna be it's gonna be a huge deal
I really hope that it's not you know, one of the 5g
Internet solar drones, but it's gonna raise a lot more eyebrows about projects like this
You know, well, my uncle Johnny was killed by a drone
And so we shouldn't fly drones and there's something to be said for that. We shouldn't fly drones that aren't safe
Yeah, I don't know, you know looking at the picture of that thing. I don't know what safety mechanisms it contains
Doesn't look like a whole lot but that's like it was glide but that pictures are rendered
So looks like it would glide as long as it has a parachute that would deploy if you know
Cuz I mean glide is great in theory until it goes really fast until it collides with
Something else in the air and it knocks a wing off. I
Mean the thing could be made of foam for all I know and even parachuting
Not a guarantee and something is still run into it. Yeah, so, I don't know man. I
Don't know man
Speaking of I don't know man. If you were thinking to yourself gee, oh, I don't know how to upgrade to Windows 10
That's fine. Microsoft has got you covered. You don't need to know
You don't need to know at all our original article here is from how to geek
And I think we should open this segment with my with you telling your story that you told me before the show about what happened
To you this week. Okay, the one with that that
That dog that walk came into your house
Like took a crap on your bed
Okay, so no, maybe not so much
Um, I was here a little bit late last night working. That's a little bit irrelevant
but basically I wasn't at home and my computer decides to upgrade to Windows 10 and
My girlfriend is at my place and she's like, um
Um, um, your computer is doing stuff and she's like I didn't touch it because she's like worried that I'm gonna blame her
Yeah, that's fine. I mean, hey girlfriend blaming when something goes wrong with the computer. That is a thing
It's a thing that's like, okay, like I wasn't touching it. I was I was away somewhere else doing whatever
Yeah, I just saw it's it's now trying to boot up but not working
she says it keeps restarting and it's trying to turn on and it keeps failing and restarting and I'm like
Ah, cuz you just wrote back to Windows 7 for better VR compatibility. Luckily. I don't need it anymore. Okay that
Alpha thing or beta whatever is gone. Okay, so it's fine
But yeah
It tried to upgrade to Windows 10 all on its little lonesome good old little independent computer trying to do its own stuff
And it failed and it bricked my Windows OS
So I was able to very easily recover files because I have an external bay thing sitting right there
It's like okay SSD shunk take whatever I needed off of it, which wasn't much
I don't see much on there put it back in reformat now. I'm officially running on Windows 10 cuz I didn't break it
Thanks, Microsoft. I tweeted about that and Timmy was like no problem
Yeah, yeah, so that was that was rough thanks for yeah, so there's a lot of problems here
Really? There's actually like super duper a lot of problems here. I mean number number one is
Calling an an
operating system change a
recommended update is not really and pushing it automatically I
Mean for the tech savvy people
Like someone like Luke where learning it how to use Windows 10 is not gonna be much of a challenge
It was fine and like recovering my files and reformatting my computer in a grand total of like a couple hours
Wasn't really a big deal, but like grandma who like barely knows how to use her computer as it is
He squads gonna make a lot of money. Yeah geek squad is gonna be happy about this one
I'll tell you that much. That is a very good point. Yeah, so problem number two with doing a
system upgrade in this way is
that
If you manage to get into the operating system and are able to access the rollback feature
I believe the rollback feature does still exist. I could not recover
however
There's a reason that any update
firmware update for a mouse or
Or or a driver update for whatever or a software update will always say okay
Make sure that there's not going to be a sudden power loss in the middle of this process
Um, you know, hey make sure that you back up any important data before we do this
I mean I have seen some updates that have super nothing to do with my data
recommend
Backing up my data before I proceed because that's just that's just common sense
That's covering your butt as a software maker to say hey back up your data
We're not responsible for any data loss that may occur during this process
for Microsoft to completely forego that due diligence and
potentially cause people to spend money at Geek Squad or
Lose data something that is so difficult to attach a value to one quick second effective monkey in the chat said your GF probably tried
Turning off the computer in the middle. No, she didn't just putting it out there. I've seen the windows 10 upgrade fail
Yeah, I have literally sat and watched it fail. All right
I knew it wouldn't have worked because I had tried it already and I was like, okay, there's something wrong with my system
It's not working for Windows 10, whatever. I just won't upgrade. That's fine
And I had to do this like crazy recovery process. I tried doing it doing it again this time and it didn't work
It wasn't her fault. She didn't do anything wrong. Sorry continue. So I
I mean, I think Microsoft is opening themselves up to a very significant class action here
You know anyone who lost, you know precious photos of their cat or whatever these or babies
that's gonna be the first big one that comes out I lost photos of my
deceased family member
Graduation stuff like some form of super important can't do it again
Yeah will happen and then that will be very bad and and like, you know
Yeah, wow
This just seems crazy to me and you know
What's even crazier is like they did this by accident before and then rolled it back this time purpose
It's on purpose and they are apparently even doing Windows 10 upgrade notifications on business pcs now
which is like I mean, there's so much more to a business infrastructure than just
Windows and an office like there's a lot of stuff that
Straight-up has quirks and compatibility issues going from one version of Windows to another even though
7 to 8 to 8.1 to 10 has been
Relatively seamless, you know when you compare it to set up XP to Vista, for example
There are still issues like we've had premiere issues. That was a great example where the new premiere update was. What was it bricked on?
8.1 but not on
7 my oculus something like that. Yeah. Yeah. What was the issue with the oculus?
It just I just some people were able to get at work with like certain USB
It was USB drivers or something certain USB drivers for certain types of USB 3.0 or 2.0 ports in
Combination with whatever might work on certain Windows 10 machines or you can go to Windows 7 and it's fine
We've got a lot of people talking about their Windows 10 upgrade experiences
So Spoko in the in the chat says Windows 10 upgrade failed with no clear error until I set my boot order to boot
Directly from the Windows SSD instead of grub on another SSD by complete trial and error
And this is the kind of stuff that again like we're saying is no big deal for the tech savvy, you know
Linux users out there
but for grammar Oh
Oh
Grandma probably won't have grub installed but like the point remains the point remains when I first got the razor blade
14 my the first unit that I got I
Like set everything up created my user account and I was like, oh I wonder if I can get the Windows 10 update on here
Whoo, there it is. Boom did it failed? I
Had to factory restore and I had to try it again and it worked. There you go
Yeah, it's like my fully updated Windows 7 that I had been using
That was the one that failed the update and basically bricked its own operating system
When I reinstalled Windows with one of my oldest Windows 7 is because I had to fit on a 4 gig USB
With like no updates. I manually went to the Microsoft get Windows 10 website did it immediately off the bat and it worked perfectly
This is great. Someone says
Microsoft flight simulator 10 does not work on Windows 10. I think I have actually heard that I
Don't remember what the issue was related to but but there you go. That's a perfect examples Microsoft's own software
I mean, I know it's old
Yeah, but the point is like, you know if I've got you know, my flight sim rig in a in a closet somewhere
You know with everything kind of tucked out of the way
I really don't want it to just automatically updated and I and I don't touch it for two weeks or two months
let's say, you know, maybe you don't use it all the time and you come back and
What yeah, so what now I have to roll back if that works and or reformat or like are you freaking kidding me?
All right, what else we got it's funny too because like a couple days
before
Last night when this all happened
I was like I should probably look into like downloading some tool that blocks the I wasn't even thinking was gonna do it automatically
But the little annoying pop-up that's like you should get Windows 10
I was like I should just you know, get some tool that blocks that from happening
So that's a little annoying and like I might as well do that. So I was like, yeah, maybe this weekend
I'll spend some time and like make sure I can block Windows 10 updates. Yeah, this is like boom rekt
Okay, maybe you saw that coming. It's like it was already annoying
It was already like move, please move, please move, please move, please and then it's like
Can you be slightly less pushy windows
Actually, there's one more there's one more funny thing
Apparently and I haven't actually seen the original statement here. So this is this is from my notes in the doc, so you have to forgive me
apparently
Microsoft's response in a blog post says that if you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or 8.1 and
You don't want this download to occur then you can just turn off automatic updates
just like
What?
So I'm just supposed to not get security patches because I don't want to upgrade my operating system
Like I get it you guys are trying to super hardcore aggressively EOL Windows 10 or Windows 7 and Windows 8 and 8.1
Like you don't want to create another XP situation where they I think I believe they still have active
Contracts with what was it the US Navy or something? Yeah to support Windows XP because like ships run on it
but
So I get it you're trying to EOL those operating systems. You're trying to get everyone on to Windows 10
But you have to understand that even as Windows 10
Evolves, you know, maybe in the same way that OS 10 has it's not a coincidence. I wonder
Where it gets all these different cats or mountains or whatever
You are still gonna have to support this stuff because even these small incremental updates are going to break compatibility
I mean, there's all sorts of stuff that works in you know
Bengal that doesn't work in house cat and all that whatever Microsoft checks for is driver stuff
They don't check for software stuff
I mean I will give them kudos
Windows update does a way better job of drivers than it used to on Windows 10
It's like actually really good like even like those weird Emulex 10 gig nicks
You boot into the operating system. Boom drivers installed for it. No big deal set up time on Windows 10 is very fast
Yeah, so I will give them that but they are still
nowhere on
Application compatibility. Yeah, they basically haven't touched it and I get it like there there are there are more that's great
Windows applications then you could count if you started counting today
One two, three, four or five. So like you couldn't count that high. Sorry not in your lifetime
So I get it
But it means you can't do stuff like this. Yes, if you don't have an App Store
where
developers are required to
Maintain their own database of compatibility in a way that the store understands and can interpret for the user
Like
The setup time is fast like last night when it screwed up. I was like, well, I have to reset up everything for stream tomorrow
And like it's basically there now
So I got home at like 9 and I was able to do that a reasonable time before I went to bed
that's pretty good, but I
Definitely should not have had to do that
All right, let's get into our next thing that no one should have had to do. It's supposed to buy. Oh, right. Um
Yeah, okay. No one should have had to look at an ugly website
Squarespace
So if you're not familiar with Squarespace at all
May I suggest that you go back and watch some of our awesome coverage of CES? Yeah
Hey, there was a lot of cool stuff at the show this year. There was and all of it was brought to you by Squarespace
So at the end of literally every single one of those videos, there's a whole rundown of like how it works
Yeah, I got to the point where like throughout the day
I would try to cover all the points but each video didn't necessarily contain every point
But we'll run through all the points of why Squarespace is awesome now
First up they worked with Jeff Bridges
Second up
they
Had a Super Bowl commercial ultimate third their logo is really cool. It's like it's like an S and
It's like kind of squiggly. I think it's a great logo fourth
They're bros. Yeah good people over there. We like Squarespace five
I guess the thing that they actually do so Squarespace allows you to build your own beautiful website using one of their great templates that
Has all kinds of features so whether you want to use their logo designer to create a cool logo, or you want to?
create a store where people can buy like
Knickknacks that you make or or whatever else so you want to create a rules to avoid updating Windows 10
Yeah, yeah say for example you created a website about that boom you could do it on Squarespace and their plan started
Just eight dollars a month all the management of your site is through the cloud
You don't have to like create a web server and run that in your closet or any of that complicated nonsense
And it is what was I gonna say right?
It's scalable and you get a free domain if you sign up for an entire year
So if all that sounds pretty good, and you've been thinking to yourself gee
I could use an affordable way to run my own website even if it's just for like
I don't know the minor league soccer team that you run
You just want like a cool little website where you have some pictures you can recruit some new people to join the team
Whatever kind of site you want to make Squarespace makes it easy
And if you want to check it out all you got to do is go to Squarespace.com and use offer code Linus
And you can save 10% on building your beautiful website today
They've got a two-week free trial by the way, so you don't have to commit right up front
No credit card required no credit card required to be free trial speaking of no credit card required
Have you ever been a small business owner and had someone come to you and be like yeah?
You know I would love to pay that bill, but I never saw it or hey
Do you accept credit card and you're all like?
No, I don't fresh books is the accounting solution for you also cloud-based
But it's in a very different sort of way so you can use your phone to do things like track
How many hours you're spending on a project you can track the expenses?
Yeah, you can just take pictures of your seats, and it handles everything else handles all that stuff you can generate invoices
You can generate invoices you can send them to the client you can see that the client has read it you can receive deposits
You can receive deposits and final payments through the app, but aren't I shouldn't call an app
but through the service by credit card and
If you ever have any questions
And you want to talk to their support you call them, and you will speak to a real human no phone tree no
Escalating to a level to a technician or anything like that. No you know enter your number and record a brief message
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Please hold until Linus Sebastian is on the phone and press what come on come on
So anyway, you'll talk to a real person and all you got to do is go to freshbooks.com slash when and get a free trial
Today and they also just got a mobile card reader
So you can even take credit card payments when you are on the go, so I don't know you have a traveling pedicure service
Or maybe a more likely scenario would be a locksmith for example
I mean there's so many small businesses
And they can benefit from freshbooks if you want to spend more time running your business and less time
Screwing around with accounting nonsense especially if you are not a numbers person
So we've actually got something else we can move on to today that is different from what we normally do. This is our build of
The what is it moment moment?
Looks like week died super hard and then month like it became like half year
so
I guess it's moment now. That was a
So we've got a featured build for you guys. Do you want to drop us out of the frame there?
Let's go ahead. So
The voters pick and this one was made project ravaged by clown face 15 11
So let's go ahead and walk through I haven't actually looked at this yet, but it has some BA specs
What's up? I
Didn't want to delete it. Oh, so you just put yourself. Well, that's as far out as I'm like
No, no, I don't want to do it anymore. You're in the corner. I don't want to I don't want to do it
I'm not doing it. I'm just gonna control the slideshow you do it. Okay, but you you have to stay the person on screen
Oh, there you go. There's an Intel Core i7 5960 X and a Suess x99 deluxe 3.1
2-gigabyte reference 980 TI is an EVGA supernova p2 1200 watt power supply
16 gigs of g-skill rip jaws memory. Well, okay. No more that
I got bored is a awesome-looking desk computer. Look at that water cooling arrangement. Holy smokes. I
Love her clean run di wide like crazy. Like look at this. That's pretty sick
I'm loving the way this is set up. Like you got no interference from the legs. It's got really good support right here
It looks it looks so strong
It looks really strong but not in like it doesn't look like shop furniture. No, no, no, no
No, it looks like like the you know, the modern like industrial design style furniture. Yeah. Yeah, I like it then not to offend
I was just gonna say one is gonna like the fans tape
whoa
That is some
Intricate hard line work right there. That is not
Easy what is going on right there?
That looks really clean. That is gorgeous option option. Yeah. Yeah
Fan freakin tastic. Oh
And look at that desk sir. Oh, I like how it only actually peeks through in that one part
That actually looks really cool. That is absolutely sick. I love how
monstrous that computer is love the finished desk shot here that monitor and the ten the trophies the trophies the
Boxes from the hardware. Yeah power supply and motherboard boxes. Very very nice Wow
Gorgeous machine. All right, let's move on to our second one
So this that was the community choice and this one is the staff choice
From the LTT forum staff this sub prezi.com thing has gotten a lot better since the first time
We tried to use it because that was a disaster. You know, alright, so this is
by Stefan
1024 the silent cube so a little bit more down-to-earth hardware, but still really really good
Wow, I'm loving that copper block is that is that is that homemade pretty sure Wow
I haven't actually read the bill blog. So sorry
Holy smokes. Yeah, that looks very custom to me and that like do you see there's the the cube?
So wait, go go. Yeah, you can see it there. It's open a bit. Okay board
Okay, here we go, there you go Wow
Damn heat sinks though
Look at that
So that's actually funny that I came up. That's how I thought the Microsoft Underwater servers were gonna work
Just having the walls be giant heat sink fan. Yeah, that's interesting. But nope
Look how big it is. I love it the
Look at that thermal thermal camera shot even this is a serious machine here, man. Yeah, that's actually super cool. That is fantastic
I
Mean the lengths that some people will go to to silence their computers
although I
Believe that my project while not as cool as this one
No
That's pretty amazing is actually a little bit crazier if not on the same level
Where I go as far as to remove the computer from the room
Oh, just like like I don't mean crazy like in terms of the skill involved or anything
I mean crazy in terms of like how mental I must be
To care that much about a little bit of computer hum where I'm gonna be like, nope
Nope, the computer may not be in the same room as me anymore
Yeah, it won't it must be removed. It will no longer be in the room with me
I maintain that there's there's acceptable amounts of computer home
No, that's okay
That's fine
But I did like it's I just don't mind and it has to be like a certain tone
Like if I can hear the airflow, that's fine. If I can literally hear the fan, that's maybe not good rattle is the word
Yes. Yeah, I don't like rattle but if it's like
It's probably fine
Alright, let's get it. Let's get a straw. Let's get a straw pull up computer noise
Does it matter yes, no
Turn it. Okay. Well, that's not as simple as it cuz I don't like computer noise in general
Hmm a little
Like acceptable but acceptable amount isn't it? Let's say somewhat somewhat. Yeah, okay
So some what's for like if you can hear the air flowing stuff, but there's no rattle and what yeah, okay
So there we go guys we wanna we want to hear from you guys. Let's hit that straw pull. All right
Let's see these results. You want to screen share me and do you want to fire up our next topic?
Well, we all these results come in
We could do one of our rapid-fires or something like oh no, let's do the dad the dad
So this is bananas
This was posted by aluminum tech on the forum about a dad who spent a night in jail after
confiscating his daughter's iPhone now
to be clear
the headline is
somewhat
conversationalist there is more to this the dad was not put in jail for
Confiscating his daughter's iPhone for an hour that he gave her it is a little more complicated than that
So the iPhone was actually provided by his by the daughter's mother
His ex-wife and he took it and kept it for a long period of time. So it was actually
the
Ex-wife is arguing her property and that him taking it was tantamount to stealing
So
This is a whole other level of family crazy. Yeah
That I'm glad that I don't have to be involved in. Yeah
So it looks like pretty much everyone agrees with you and pretty much no one agrees with me
So I'm pretty much done with that straw pull
You want to know there's a fair amount of people that agree with you. Hold on. Let's so hold on
I want to bring this up
So the original article here that we that was posted on the forum was from mashable. So there's a picture of a phone
It's a whole lot of text. You want to fire us back to back to full screen. There we go
If I had a MIDI controllers would be sick
So basically he confiscated his daughter's cell phone as a punishment for sending quote-unquote inappropriate text back in 2013
He was found guilt not guilty on Tuesday, by the way
So so this is this is this is why we're hearing about it now was that the the judgment just came through
And is going to file a complaint for civil rights violation because his take on the whole thing is that it was I don't remember
what word he used but basically it was ridiculous and
He said his 12 year old daughter was trying to organize an attack on another minor
So he confiscated the phone and I can think of a hundred reasons like I've got kids
I can think of a hundred reasons why I would confiscate their phone
Yeah, and to not be allowed to do that as a parental discipline measure
even if the phone was
Provided and the bill was paid or whatever by or even if the phone was provided by whoever by whoever it was
Too bad, yeah, you're a minor you're 12 a phone is a privilege when you're 12
And if you're using it for something that is deemed inappropriate as a parent
You don't get to have that anymore too freaking bad. A phone is not an inalienable, right? It's not food. It's not shelter
It's not water. It's not sleep
So anyway a few hours sell it he didn't yeah
So a few hours after he grabbed the phone the police showed up so the mother who owned the phone said you can't take someone's
Property regardless if you're a parent or not so I can already tell exactly what she sounded like when she was saying that
Yeah, like I can picture that idiot in my head right now
With that said, you know, we don't know what his history with her is and we don't know
You know why she would have taken that particular stance. I'm not judging anyone here
I'm just saying I can imagine what that person probably sounds like
The father turned down a plea deal
Which would have involved turning over the phone and spent one night in jail because he refused to give it back
And that's a fun relationship says that the dispute has rendered any future relationship with his daughter and her mother
impossible
Holy crap
People are mad people are and it's not just in twitch chat people are mad
I mean, here's a really crazy thing when he refused to take the deal. Um
The dallas county district attorney's office upped the charges to class b misdemeanor, which in texas could be a two thousand dollar fine
And up to six months in jail
Oh my god, I mean you have got to be freaking kidding me here. You can change it if you don't take a plea
Um, it seems kind of i'm not actually sure I mean
What we need john's help what yeah, we need john's help like what charge you are trying to apply to someone
I mean when it's a crime that is so difficult to classify
Taking a phone and taking a phone and taking a phone and taking a phone and taking a phone
Taking a phone as a parent temporarily
But that isn't yours because it belongs to the other parent who you are no longer sharing
finances with but okay, even if it was
the kids
As a parent wouldn't you be allowed to take it?
Oh, wow, hold on a second
Like if the kid worked hold on. Yeah. Okay. Okay, we need to do straw poll straw poll here
Let me let me create the straw just get john would then we'll then we'll discuss. Okay, sure
So you need to make a new that's yeah. Yeah. Okay, so 12 year
old's
Phone could a 12 year old have a okay
Inappropriate use like let's say they were using it to organ. Let's say that what he said is true
They are clearly using it to organize an attack on another
Minor or something. So there is a there is a safety reason. Yeah, okay
Okay, so 12 year olds phone inappropriate use okay for parent to confiscate
if it is
their property
Yes, no. Wow, this is
Complicated
Wow, this is complicated I would probably vote for that one. I still think yeah, I don't know
Because I think we can agree
that
Unless there is okay, huh? So organize an attack
Like let's say they're okay. Let's call it bullying
Let's say that you know, it's something where it's clearly wrong, but there isn't necessarily a law in place
Like there is hey, we're well, I mean, okay. Is there a law in place that you can't pie someone at school. That's assault
Is it assault? Yeah. Okay, let's let's come up with something. Let's come up with something that's mean but not illegal
You can call someone names
Or is that verbal assault? I mean is there a charge threatening is threatening there's a charge for I think well
I don't know if you call someone dumbo ears or something like
It's not a threat. You're not threatening to take your ears. Yeah
So let's say let's say they're just let's say they're just coordinating being mean
Okay mean in some way that is we're not gonna try and figure out what's needed some way that's legal
Yeah mean in some way that's legal. Okay
Slander shit. There's a law against like everything. Yeah, I know
So don't worry about it. It's mean in some way that is legal
But the 12 year old owns the phone
Okay
So I think we can all agree that if you're an adult and you're talking about like pulling a prank on your friends or being
Mean to them or something unless you're doing something illegal. No one has the right to take your stuff from you
That would be theft unless the police
with a warrant
Can take it from you because this is this is interesting too, but we're probably is probable cause or whatever cannot
Teachers can hold things can't they?
Because we're talking about minors. Yeah, so then wouldn't your parents be able to almost no matter what it is
Right because the teacher can the teacher can take it but then that's created issues as well
Yeah, cuz the asthma inhaler or whatever. Yeah teachers confiscating illogical and then the phone because of emergencies
Has been has been an issue, but the idea that they're able to do it. Has that actually
been stopped
Someone you're saying as a teacher. No, they cannot teachers have no right to take stuff apparently. Oh, so there you go
I know it's something that definitely happened when we were in and it's still yeah, definitely still happens totally a thing
Maybe that's a Canadian thing, but apparently they they cannot do it
They cannot do it. Yes, and this is gonna vary from place to place. Anyway, let's let's go to our straw poll results
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with yes
I'm gonna agree with with most people here if it belongs to them. They're using it for something inappropriate
Too bad and like that you're just gonna have to have the conversation where what if they're not using it for something inappropriate
So if they do something is like for instance only at the dinner and you're like
I'm gonna take your phone if you don't eat your dinner. Yeah, no not to call it. My my parents. My parents are wonderful
I love my parents, but like if I did something
wrong
Or if I was a little a little jerk for whatever reason no Nintendo
Yeah, or they'd like take my speakers away. I had this speaker system in my room or like yeah
You can't use your you can't use your Nintendo. You can't use your Xbox. You can't game on the computer
You can't do whatever it is. You can't do something. You can't use this
We are taking this like there's one point in time where I had to forfeit my radio or whatever
My mom held it in her room and took it. It wasn't because I was using the radio. It's because of something else
So it wasn't because of inappropriate use of the radio
So it actually had nothing to do with the radio
So we've got someone bringing up that I personally think that's okay
The ex-wife did it only because she doesn't like him and wants to make his life difficult
We know that but we were what we're discussing is the is the not necessarily even the legality
But the the right like yeah, like what is your what what what makes something theft?
Yeah, so if you were to buy your game console yourself, is it theft if your parents tell you?
If they take it, well what they could do is they could say you're not allowed to use it
You may not use our electricity to power that
But can they take it away
I don't know
Everything is gray right now. Yeah, it is. We need John
John John John should I just get John? Uh, no, it's okay. I think we should probably move on to the next topic
Yeah, he's probably gone for the day anyway
It's almost said it's called parenting that's kind of my thing on it like my parents taking me my speaker because I was a little
jerkhole is like
Is super okay fine and made him the stunning man that he pointed out to me that he is
today
No, seriously, though. Like it's I yeah if you
How like you can't hit them anymore? Yeah, you can't take their stuff away. I don't know that spanking is illegal. Oh
Yeah, I'm pretty sure corporal punishment is actually still legal
It's just society has decided that you can't do that. And I personally don't believe that's effective anyway
I
Mean, you know cuz like my mother's bringing my parents again
They'd break like a spoon or a hairbrush or something honest
My brother and I would just like laugh and be like ha ha ha we win
Maybe not without getting too deep into this I do
Actually think that there's a time and a place I
was spanked once
one time when growing up and
It was done at a very young age and I remember it to this day
Now if it had happened all the time, I think it's kind of like swearing
If someone who never swears
Swears very impactful you go what? Yeah
They've made their point. Whatever just happened was really painful or
Really upsetting or whatever the case may be but someone who swears all the time
You don't even notice it starts to just become part of the casual flow conversation
So I got spanked for pulling a wicked tantrum in Safeway because I wasn't allowed to have a doughnut
Like I'm talking the actual like kicking like like scooting myself around on my back
Yelling on the floor in the middle of the grocery store and tangible. Yeah, so my dad
Drop the groceries
Put them down in the store
physically picked me up took me to the car and
Yep gave me the old don't do that
And I remember that
now to my mom I
Believe she only spanked one of my siblings once one of my other siblings once like like
It was not a thing in my family hitting
But what happened?
was
She ran away down the street without telling anyone where she was going when she was about
you know four or something like that and
I think it was just one of those. I don't know what else to do
um
You do not do that and to her to this day. She still remembers the incident and never did that again
So I don't know this isn't parenting tips
I don't yeah, I have no problem with what my parents did but then at the same time my brother
And I both like played football and like getting hit with something really wasn't that big of a deal
And I have no problem with what my parents did with that said I have never hit my kids
I don't plan to hit my kids
I don't think it's the best way to I don't think it's the best way to reinforce the correct behavior
Yeah, I guess I like I'm not judging I'm saying I don't disagree with what my parents did
It's not what I plan to do. It's not how I train dogs
It's I'm never gonna have kids, but it's not how I train dogs. Yeah, some people train dogs. I don't like that
I mean, I don't know man
Yeah, I don't know the thing about pain is it's nature's teacher
That is for sure
Pain tells you you touch a hot stove element. Don't do that anymore with dogs. I just
But there's other ways to make them realize
Oh, yeah, there's other forms of pain too. Well dogs are dogs are a little bit different because like with dogs. There's there's a dominance
Yeah thing. Yeah, so you can like, you know, I like it would be very common
I had a dog when I was growing up and if he did something like really really way out of line
Then you know, like if he was running after and trying to kill one of the chickens and I had to like catch him
You know
Grab the scruff of the neck
Grab around the neck don't choke, but grab grab the neck look in the eye right in his face
No
Little bop on the nose. It doesn't hurt but it tells him who's boss
I have no problem with that, but you never hurt a dog. You can do like
Yeah, like emotional stuff like getting right in his face and saying, you know, it's gonna make an awkward situation
He'll be like, oh wow. What was I doing?
similar thing with anyways, yeah, but there's there's there's a lot of different ways to deal with this stuff and I don't think that
Pain is the right answer necessarily
Although I will say that the one animal that I have ever resorted to pain with is a cow
They are actually too stupid to live
It was the only way that I could move him
Like I'm talking I'm talking like like like I and he was big right? He's a cow. Okay
Like I would get behind and I would push him as hard as I can
I would I would pull I would have all my weight and pushing as hard as I could on the ground on
a halter on his head and it would just be like
Go ahead and try
with that cow I
Would I would and I would even like I would even like push him with my foot on his butt like try to get him
To move because once I got him moving he would go to his stall
But he would refuse to move
So it got to the point where I would actually have to kind of take a run at it and and and like
push with my feet as hard as I could and then he would kind of go and
Then he would move it's a stupidest the stupidest creature that I have ever encountered
I find it kind of interesting and I wonder like some psychologists has probably done some research on this and stuff
But you remember what you were doing where?
Why all that kind of stuff? I just remember breaking the thing. I don't remember what I was doing
I don't know what I was being punished for. I don't remember where it was
I just remember the hairbrush breaking and being like you
Like I don't remember anything
At all, I don't remember what I was doing where when why I don't know what age I was
I don't even remember who was doing it
Like I don't remember which one was thank you. I have no idea
All right, well, I think we've run out of time we didn't manage to cover a lot of topics today
But you guys don't seem to care. There's 7600 of you watching the show
Number of armchair lawyers and twitch chat right now. So so painful Oh
John wanted us to bring him on. You know what? I actually not gone. Come get me. I have a babysitter at home
I have to go if you want to continue the stream with John then that's cool. But I actually have to peace. Okay
We should do an after-party then I will bring. Okay. Sure. So thanks for watching the land show guys
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