YouTube gives us a community guideline strike
if we make a video saying that the WAN show is live.
What the heck?
Here we go.
What do you mean?
I don't know what was going on with that.
I don't know, I like it.
I think it's a good look for you.
Cool, yeah, yeah, let's leave it up.
I mean, it can't be any worse than my hair.
Anyone who skips through the timestamps
is just gonna be like, what is that?
That was one of the big takeaways actually
from the whole controversy around Tampon Gate.
You know about Tampon Gate, right?
Yeah.
With the Amazon Go store where I was holding up a pad
and I'm like, I stole tampons from the Amazon Go store.
That was so disruptive that on my Twitch stream,
I had to like address what was going on
and I watched your video but couldn't have the audio on
cause the levels were weird.
So it was like blowing people's ears out.
So I was like, I'm pretty sure
he's just saying all this stuff.
And then I watched it the next day and I was right.
I was like, yeah.
And I had never even seen the video.
I was just like, I'm pretty sure
this is about what's going on.
So one of the things that came out of that
was that I am a tech bro.
Okay.
I've never heard before.
I had never heard the term tech bro.
I've never heard of that either, but kind of.
Tech bros are, they're like, they're bros.
You know, like bro, bro, yeah, bro.
They're those, but they're tech.
And they exclude everyone because they're like tech bros.
I don't think we exclude everyone.
Actually, it has more to do with us
just not really knowing how to talk to anyone.
Yes.
If you want the stereotypical tech person.
If social awkwardness is exclusion, then like, yeah.
Yes.
Most exclusionary group of all time.
We love each other though.
So we just don't know how to tell each other.
I mean, Luke and I know how to tell each other.
We're, we're special like that in special bond.
But then I have, I have grown to accept
that I have bad hair.
Okay.
So I I'm okay with it.
I'm just gonna, you know what, there.
I'm not making it worse.
I'm not making it better.
It's just bad.
That thing mostly fell down.
I just go like that a whole bunch
and then apparently it's fine.
So.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, whatever.
Get wrecked.
Why don't you try it?
Got a lot of, so what do I do?
Just like sweep it to one side,
like finger rake to one.
Oh, it's gelled.
Yeah.
Well, that's not gonna work.
That's not gonna work.
Just doing it anyways.
We're gonna hope for the best today.
How's that?
Actually looks all right.
Oh, seriously.
There's one little bit up in the back,
but the rest of it, it looks less gel
than it looks like it's just kind of sweeping over.
Okay.
Yeah, the back's screwed up.
Cause the gel's holding it up.
So I'm using like hand oils.
Yeah, the back is filled up.
To fix the gel.
Yeah.
Remember that bit about how we're exclusionary?
Maybe this is why.
The tech news.
Brought to you by people who don't look very credible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Nvidia leaks and pictures Motorola under fire
for copying the iPhone 10.
Oh, I'm just doing this.
Okay.
Thunder foot takes issue with tech quickie
and the Core i9-9900K confirmed to be soldered.
Rumor.
I can't get the chat on Twitch.
Intro.
It's just like not here.
I've got it.
Yeah.
Linux fan 724, just subscribed to the Twitch pride.
Linux fan 724, please be subscribed to the wrong channel.
I think you were thinking of Linus, not Linux.
Oh.
Nah, they weren't.
They could be a fan of Linux.
I'm a fan.
I'm especially a fan of our sponsors.
All right.
So we've got a great show for you guys today.
I think we already ran through some of the topics.
Wonderful.
But actually we...
We're gonna talk about this one first?
We're gonna go for it?
Or are we gonna talk about other stuff?
Oh, I was actually just gonna go totally, totally off.
Oh, hey. Off script.
And I don't know how to spell it,
which is really unfortunate.
Why can't I find this?
No.
That's definitely not it.
Let me help.
No one has any idea what we're looking for.
No one has any idea what we're looking for.
We'll find it.
There we go.
So guess who we have here in the studio today.
Dude, I found it first search.
You know what?
Well, I hate you.
So we have
Conflicts.
And he doesn't actually know that I was planning to have him
come say hi on the WAN show,
but basically he does like robot stuff
and like STEM stuff.
And this video right here is an unboxing
and let's play with the Super Anthony
ultimate battle humanoid robot
with 45 kilogram servo punch.
And come on, come on, come on, come on over here.
Let's talk about, let's talk about what we shot today.
So this is his video,
which you're not gonna copyright strike me over this.
No, no, no, no, please.
Is this fair use?
Yes, it's fair use. Fair use?
No copyright strike?
No copyright strike.
Okay, no copyright strike.
Good. You heard it from, you heard it from him.
Say, say hi everyone.
Hey guys.
I don't know.
I don't know how many people are like spazzing out
right now.
Conflicts.
Buttflies says, who?
What else we got?
Mandry2 says, cornflakes?
Cornflakes, okay.
I think they're just messing with you guys
because good old Twitch chat.
They are all about being well Twitch chat.
So basically what we were doing today here,
I'm just gonna throw your thing up here.
Actually, yeah.
Do you want to run them through what we did today?
Because it's pretty cool.
Get a little closer to the mic.
So we actually, all right, no problem.
That's fine.
I really hadn't planned to do this.
So we went ahead and made a video showcasing Super Anthony.
Now, Super Anthony is a robot
that's actually been out for some time,
but they're finally launching it on Kickstarter
where you can actually go ahead and buy it.
It's a fighting robot.
Now, the unique thing about this robot
is it's really, really strong.
It's got a 45 kilogram punch force
and both Linus and I actually fought against each other
and did a few different things.
So definitely do stay tuned for that video
once it comes out.
Yeah, we completed some challenges.
If you want to learn more about the robot in the meantime,
you can check out Conflicts' video here.
Surprisingly agile.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Oh yeah, no, definitely.
And it's controlled with like
a knockoff PlayStation controller.
So it's actually very intuitive.
There it is punching.
Are you gonna show us the uppercut?
Or is that the uppercut?
Oh, no, that's a punch.
Yeah, there's a jab.
How many servos does this thing have?
Like 12, 14, something like that?
I think it's about like 16 or 18.
16 or 18, yeah.
So it can do some pretty crazy stuff.
It can pick itself up off the floor,
both from the front and the back.
I think he's probably gonna demo that in a second here.
And without spoiling too much,
I will say that the video we shot together today
involves breaking eggs and definitely also involves
a custom built battle robot arena
that Ed and James spent the better part
of the last two days building.
Yeah.
So, I mean, really the reason that this collab came about
was that, what are they called again?
Limitless IQ.
Limitless IQ.
So Limitless IQ, the makers of the Super Anthony,
actually sent robots to both conflicts and me.
And then when both of us followed up and said,
hey, you know what would be great?
If we could get a couple of Super Anthony's and battle them.
Their response was, sorry,
we only have a limited number of samples.
You can only have one.
To which I believe we both replied,
look, I don't need you to send another one
for me to keep or whatever.
I just really think it would enhance the video a lot
if we could fight them.
Can you just lend me one?
To which they responded, no, we can't do that.
We only have a limited number of samples.
Now we went one step further actually,
before we reached out to Khan here, this is great.
Before we reached out to him, we kind of said,
well, we don't really think there's a video in here
if we don't have two of them to fight.
So do you want it back then?
And they went, no.
And we went, okay, so on the one hand,
your story is you don't have enough samples
to send out enough of them,
but the flip side of it is you don't want it back.
So we were like, okay,
well, we want to make a video about this,
cause this is cool.
So we're just going to find someone else who has it,
fly them out with the robot,
which was a breeze to get through TSA, right?
No, it was not.
I had three TSA agents literally investigate me
and to the full extent,
like they almost like thought I was going to like,
even like hijack the plane or something with the robot.
With your robot.
Are you kidding me?
With your 18 inch robot.
I get it.
We last now, but in the future.
I mean, if it was six foot,
that's a different situation.
Yeah.
But you know, that's crazy.
Yeah, so yeah, we had a lot of fun today though.
I think the final video
is not going to be particularly informative,
but it'll definitely be fun.
If you want the informative spin on Super Anthony,
go check out Conflicts' channel.
All right, thanks man.
Nope.
Thanks guys.
Yeah, we had a lot of fun today.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
We have no other way to get past that.
I saw the arena and I saw James messing around
with the robot, but just by itself.
He had it like roll over, which was insane.
Yeah, yeah.
And he showed it like crouching and jumping
and punching and stuff.
It actually has a special move
where it can do like a head level sidekick.
Jeez.
Yeah, but you have to have the-
It's really nimble.
You have to have the friction on the floor just right.
When you think back to like, you know,
some of the viral robot videos out there
when there's that like soccer game
and they just keep falling over.
No, I don't.
I'm not familiar with that video.
Robot soccer is probably all you need to actually look up.
Robot soccer.
HTWK robot SPL finals.
Does that sound familiar at all?
That does.
So does the one below that one on the search.
Be human versus HTWK.
Just like jump into it.
Yeah.
Here, hold on a second guys.
I'm going to just screen share here real quick.
You haven't seen this?
I have not seen this.
There's a few of these.
Okay.
But like just, you can just jump into it.
And they like, they like try to dive to stop the ball,
but it's like, okay.
Like you see what I mean?
Like when, when this is what most people have seen,
being able to see the Super Anthony, like jump around
and kick and punch and dodge and roll
and all this kind of stuff was like pretty impressive.
One thing I think about this is,
I'm not sure that they're actually controlled.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah, I think they're like sensors and stuff.
So that's a totally different field,
but time for it, time for it.
Nope.
Is he going to get it?
Come on.
Kick it in.
The goalie's just like completely checked out.
But yeah, when like-
Look at this instant replay.
When like, I think most of what people have seen
in terms of robots, it's like this,
the robot falling off the stage in Japan
and like all this other kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
robot dives of RoboCup 2016.
It's like, it's fall over all the time.
And like, this is not the experience
that you have with the Super Anthony.
Well, you know-
At least not that I saw.
Yeah, no, he falls over a fair bit,
especially because his traction on the floor
is not super-
Right.
Amazing.
Cause he just has like metal paddles.
And remember too, we're fighting.
So-
Part of the goal of fighting is making something fall over.
Yeah, a lot of the fighting ended up being less like,
like Rock'em Sock'em robots, like clear punch,
clear contact, and you know, he falls over.
Well, okay, but that's-
And it ended up being a lot of like punching,
kind of getting hooked on the other robot on the withdrawal
and then pulling him over and then-
Just like ripping him over.
And then like rolling on the floor, like ground fighting.
Lots of fighting is rolling on the floor.
Maybe they're trying to make it more realistic.
Yeah, sure.
Let's go with that.
And you know, okay, I-
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
You know how someone in Twitch chat
tried to say cornflakes or whatever?
Yes.
I thought he might've been legitimately
trying to do a play on words with conflicts, like conflict.
So we asked him that today.
And then no?
He was like, ha ha, yeah, sure.
I like, it had never occurred to him before, I don't think.
When I first heard the channel name,
I thought it was conflicts,
because there's robot fighting.
So he didn't start out with robot fighting.
Okay.
He actually started out with these like effects videos
where he did like minions in real life
that got like 20 million views
or something stupid like that.
And then DreamWorks or whoever owns the minions copyright
struck him.
Took it down.
Yeah, took it down.
And so now he's doing mostly like robots
and STEM stuff and tech stuff.
Yeah.
Cool.
All right.
Should we do a tech news topic?
No.
I guess.
Should we respond to Thunderf00t?
Sure.
Okay.
Or we can do a tech news.
Should we do the Nvidia thing?
Give people what they want real quick.
Sure.
And then jump over to this.
I'll get this ready in the meantime.
Sure.
So the Nvidia leaks.
Wow, so surprised.
After SIGGRAPH, we all kind of knew this was coming.
We not have leaked specs about what?
This is a ridiculous sentence.
But RTX 280 is more or less confirmed.
I don't know if it's actually been confirmed,
but there was like very, very obvious hints
in the Nvidia video.
If you kind of picked through the chat conversations
that were happening on screen, it was super obvious.
They're calling it RTX and it's 20 series, not 11 series.
So.
Because, sure.
There we go.
Why not?
I guess.
The GeForce RTX 2080 Ti.
That's going to take a little bit
to get used to.
That is going to mess with me.
Yeah.
For a very long time.
RTX is going to be very weird.
Why would they have letters that could abbreviate
from Radeon Technologies?
Oh, geez.
I didn't think about that,
but I'm astonished that they didn't.
Why?
Because you're sitting around thinking of a name,
like you'd have to break it down.
What is it supposed to break up?
Ray tracing.
Oh, come on.
Okay.
We should do a tech cookie on that, by the way.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll let Jon know.
But like, G has been Nvidia's thing for a very long time.
R has been ATI slash AMD's thing for a very long time.
So, what's happening to GeForce then?
I don't know.
So the rumors-
Is it Rayforce?
Rayforce.
So the rumors-
Ray Romano's like, yes!
Is that there will be RTX and GTX cards,
but I don't know that that has been confirmed at all.
And with Nvidia's big push towards ray tracing,
I don't really foresee that being a thing.
Yeah.
So it'll have 11 gigs of RAM,
GDDR6 memory, that is, and a 352-bit bus.
That doesn't sound right.
I would have thought it would be 348.
Okay.
I mean, don't quote me on that.
The GDDR6 memory is apparently going to be clocked
at 14 gigabit per second.
Okay.
And also there'll be an RTM,
an RTX, let me have a look, 2080,
and that'll have 2,944 CUDA cores,
not 3072 as previously speculated,
and they'll have eight gigs on a 256-bit bus.
Now, what would be really interesting about this
would be that if Nvidia launches their TI card
with the 50% wider memory bus
and their non-TI card at the same time,
this will be the first time in a while
that we've seen them actually launch a big core.
Do you think it's gonna happen now?
Right when they bring out a new architecture.
I mean, if there are rumors circulating at this point,
when we are a week from when,
or less than a week from when they're rumored
to be launching it, if there are rumors circulating,
where there's smoke, there's fire at this point.
I've yet to see a video card
that's rumored to be launching next week
with names and specs and many different sources
being reported by many different news organizations,
and everyone pretty much being on the same page about it.
I've yet to see that not turn into a real product launch.
So there you go.
If you're waiting for a graphics card,
then quick, go sell yours now
so the people who aren't paying attention to the tech news
will see it and buy it,
and then you can get your new graphics card
that presumably will be faster,
but then maybe only in ray tracing applications.
Wouldn't that be horrible?
Well, they're probably gonna do the same kind of thing
in terms of, honestly, I didn't watch the SIGGRAPH stuff.
Whoops, but they might've already,
but they are probably gonna do the same kind of thing
they did with the last launch with Pascal,
where they're like, it's three times faster.
In this specific application.
In VR related applications.
Yeah, so what I kind of am picking up here
is if you look at the 1080 Ti and you look at the 1080,
I think there's what, about a 30% performance delta,
give or take?
20 to 40, somewhere in that range.
And what they had done the last couple generations
was they had launched the step down GPU
at a performance level that was competitive
or a little bit better than last gen.
So 980, for example, was a little bit faster than 780 Ti.
1080 was a little bit faster than 980 Ti,
even though this was the step down chip
competing with the big chip from the last gen.
If they're launching both 2080 and 2080 Ti,
does that tell us that 2080 wasn't fast enough
to be an upgrade for 1080 Ti owners
and they couldn't wait another six to eight months,
which has been the typical gap.
That's potentially really brutal and possibly very true.
That would honestly line up a little bit more
with like, I know they do marketing stuff all the time
and people want to sell cards
because they never really want you to think
something's coming until like super close
to before it's coming.
Yeah, I mean, what, two months ago?
Didn't you just say there's no new cards?
Oh, you think that, no, no,
there's no way they're just Pascal
with ray tracing bots into them.
Why not?
It would not be the first time.
Yeah, it would be the first time for that.
Well, it would not be the first time
that they essentially rebadged.
This would be like a rebadge with an upgrade.
That's even better.
There's no way that's all they've been working on
for the last two years.
No, but it might be all they need to release.
See, the problem here is that I haven't seen any benchmarks
for the Turing-based, are they Quadros or Teslas?
They're Quadros.
So I haven't seen anything for the new cards
they just launched at SIGGRAPH.
So I have no way of knowing how similar those are
to the Pascal ones.
There's no way that's right.
It's probably not.
Maybe someone in Twitch chat is-
It's fun to think about.
Something helpful here.
There's a bunch of people that-
Hold on a second.
They said Turing is the best card in the world.
They said Turing is Volta iterated
and ray tracing is enabled by tensor cores.
So Volta versus Pascal.
I actually don't know.
Clock for clock, CUDA core for CUDA core,
how much that improved?
Holy crap.
You don't think the new ones
are just basically the old ones.
It's been a while since we've had that, you know.
With ray tracing bolted to them.
It might be time.
Oh boy.
That would actually be very disappointing.
Um, okay.
Well on that-
They do have much faster memory.
The memory is real fast.
Yeah, okay.
So good job miners.
Right?
Isn't mining like kind of dead right now?
Uh, I mean, it's lower than it has been in the past,
but I know people that are still profitable.
Really?
It's just, you have to be in the right location
because of power and stuff.
And you're only profitable if you catch out.
Or if you cash out.
At the right time.
And that's okay.
That's one of the ways that people have made a lot of money
is they're actually, and who knows,
do not do this because I'm saying this.
Yeah, we're not recommending it to be very clear.
Very clear about that.
There have been people, not you, unless it is you,
I don't know what.
Could be you.
There has been people that have mined
wherein it's very not profitable.
Right.
And gathered a bunch of coins and not sold
and then it's gone up and then they've sold.
So, cause like, mining while it's profitable
is only actually better if you're selling like every day.
Right.
Right?
Cause it only actually matters when you sell.
Sure.
Except it's been down for like a while now.
Except it often goes down at the beginning of the year
and then doesn't do very well in the middle of the year
and then comes up near the rest of the,
like the latter half of the year.
So who the heck knows, man?
All right then.
I kind of hate mining, but whatever.
Speaking of things that we hate,
I don't hate Motorola,
but this was posted by RoarsNZ on the forum
and this is pretty brutal.
So hit me with your best shot.
Look at mining tips.
No!
Which one of these is an iPhone 10
and which one of them is Motorola's new phone?
No, no, you don't get to look anymore.
No.
What, what?
Which one was which?
What?
Which one was which?
I have no idea.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Get ready, get ready.
I didn't see it that much.
Okay, you can see it again.
Go ahead.
And it's gone.
Which one's an iPhone 10?
I can't, I can't say with like an educated guess.
I don't know.
They're so similar.
I'm going to randomly throw up.
Okay, okay, which one, which one?
Well, okay.
The right one.
Is the iPhone 10?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Because you can cheat now.
I was trying to ignore this because that's pretty clear.
So I was just being like, okay, well,
they could have swapped that onto the thing,
but outside of this, which is like, hello, I'm Android.
Yeah.
And especially the icons below it.
Outside of that, I can't tell at all.
Isn't that brutal?
Did they cheat?
Is it literally the same frame?
Oh, look at the back.
Wow.
Yeah, I know, right?
Like, what are you doing there, bud?
Like, is this the same panel from Samsung?
That's what I want to know.
Because the curvature looks identical.
I haven't seen the full specs.
Did they advertise it with that color splash on it?
Right?
Did they?
Because this is where at the top,
one of my biggest points of confusion was like,
did they just swap over the clock just to trick people?
That's why I was like, what?
I don't know.
No, no, no.
This is a different phone.
So they even put the flash
between the two rear cameras here and like...
So on the one hand,
I'm far from the world's biggest Apple apologist.
But that's...
Neither am I.
You're currently making a video
about freaking trying to fix their stupid iMac.
But like, that's brutal.
That's pretty bad.
Design your own phone, guys.
And I'm not necessarily on Apple's side
with the whole lawsuit going on between them and Samsung
that's been going for about, what,
seven years now or whatever,
over the original Galaxy S and all the similarities
that boarded the iPhone or whatever.
Samsung has, for the most part,
tried to do their own thing separate from Apple.
The colors.
At least for a very long time.
The colors recently too.
They've really departed there.
This is brutal.
This is very brutal.
This is a brazen and blatant rip-off.
Brazen, yeah.
Brazen indeed.
I like that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I worked hard on that $40 word for...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
That's an iMac again?
The argument that's raging right now is,
are these unique design elements?
The notch, the camera placement, the wallpaper?
Or is this just now standard building blocks of a phone
and we shouldn't care about this kind of thing?
Who are you with on this one?
I'm with Apple on this one, to be completely honest.
That's brutal.
There's even little things that they could have done
to make it just marginally different.
Yeah.
The notch, both sides having the notch,
I don't necessarily see that being a huge deal personally.
It's like, way to go.
You copied Apple doing something literally no one asked for.
Yeah.
Hooray.
But everything, it's the fact that everything is the same.
Like if they had the notch, but the back was different.
If they didn't have the notch, then the back was the same.
Like at least like a little bit, even then I'd be like,
oh, they're trying to make it so that everyone else
thinks that you have an iPhone.
Yeah, you could make it.
You could make the...
It's still not great.
But the fact that it's all that way is just too brutal.
At least you could make an argument that way.
And like at least put a notably different wallpaper.
What?
Well, you can, I mean, when they do something like that,
something completely blatant, like the wallpaper,
you can tell that they're clearly not targeting us.
They're not targeting the tech.
I think it's intentional confusion to a certain degree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think they're targeting people.
I saw ads for this one that looks like that one.
Let me...
I think so.
I think it's going that way.
That's not cool.
I don't know if Lenovo,
which is Motorola's parent company now, they own the brand.
I don't know if they have responded to this,
but I would be interested to hear what they have to say
for themselves.
If they're smart, they'll probably just say nothing
and hope the whole thing blows over.
But it's not helpful
because Apple makes a lot of noise about getting copied
or people ripping off their design,
or it being frustrating to be the one
who's pushing design forward.
And what's frustrating for me
is when things like this happen,
it adds a lot of weight to Apple's whining.
Whereas if Apple was just constantly whining,
which they probably would anyway,
if Apple was just constantly whining about this stuff,
but they could never back it up,
then it would actually be damaging to themselves.
But as it is,
if companies like Motorola are running out
and actually copying the iPhone,
it means that every time Apple gets to cry about this,
we have to take it more seriously.
Do you get what I mean?
Yo, I absolutely do.
But maybe it was intentional.
Maybe Motorola knew this was gonna happen.
They wanted it to happen.
People want us to show the P20 Pro.
That's another-
Now we're actually talking about a Motorola phone
on the WAN show.
That's true.
We normally would not have done that.
So here's the P20 Pro.
It's not the same.
It's not quite the same.
I actually would say it's a notable depart.
The notch is way smaller.
The camera set up on the back is different.
I know it's similar, but there's another camera.
The logo's not in the same spot.
The logo's not in the center.
There's branding here.
There's only so much you can do with a phone these days.
This is clearly a different phone.
Whereas that Motorola phone was not clearly
a different phone.
And that's-
Like if I was super ignorant to phones,
I wouldn't necessarily know which one of those
was the iPhone and which one wasn't,
but I would know that they were different phones.
Like when you originally showed me that thing,
if the time wasn't there,
if the like Android clock thing wasn't there,
I would have legitimately thought
that they were actually identical phones.
And even then I thought they might've been
and someone just Photoshopped it over.
Someone in the chat was like,
your guys' stream is dead
because we don't have as many viewers as we normally do.
Do you wanna-
There's like reasons why.
Oh.
We can't promote the stream on YouTube anymore.
Yeah, like normally we would do a video.
We would upload it to YouTube saying,
hey, we're live over on Twitch.
Click the link in the video description.
But YouTube gave us a community guidelines strike
for doing that before.
So this is more like our organic live streaming viewership.
Honestly, if we wanted more views on WAN Show,
we would just stream it to YouTube.
Our typical YouTube stream viewership
is over 10,000 concurrence.
We've had as high as I think 20, 30,
like big, big numbers compared to what we do over here.
But honestly, WAN Show at this point
is not really about lots of viewers.
No, it's actually probably even better
having a slightly slower chat.
Yep, it's not about lots of viewers.
It's not about lots of money.
We could get a lot more sponsorship dollars for WAN Show
if we managed it differently.
Like if we published it properly as a podcast.
If we produced it properly.
You know about the issues with that, right?
No.
Oh yeah, apparently we've been doing double uploads,
one of which is usually corrupted
for like some period of time.
Oh, I know.
Yeah, anyway.
Yeah, Colton's upload is corrupted.
Well, why does he upload?
I told him this, I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah, I thought he stopped.
Okay, anyway, there are definitely things we could do
to make WAN Show better.
But for us, WAN Show is just about sort of tradition
at this point more than anything else.
Like, Luke has better things to do
now that he's COO of Floatplane Media, quite frankly.
Well, this is my like,
I work more hours than normal anyways.
So my weekend essentially starts
like right before WAN Show starts.
In like, in how I calculate everything.
This is like, I'm time off essentially right now.
So yeah, we're just kind of chilling, doing our thing.
Yeah.
Telling you about our sponsors.
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Next up, this is interesting.
Well, now that you did it, I feel like I need to do it.
I think you did it better.
Did I?
Yeah, I think so.
Hold on, let's try it.
Let's try again.
Okay, you go first.
We'll let the audience judge.
Okay, hold on.
I don't even remember how I did it.
Okay, we'll let Twitch chat just spam it
and tell us who did it better.
Okay.
One, two, three, two, one.
Damn it.
Okay.
I think you won.
I just cracked up.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, I'm just, I'll bite my cheek.
Doing a good job.
I'll bite my cheek.
I'll bite my cheek.
All of chat is getting timed out automatically
by the bot right now.
So there's that.
Okay, go.
I feel like that was my weakest one.
I want to see what Twitch chat says.
I saw a lot of me.
Yeah, I think James apparently.
James apparently won.
James wins.
Thank you, thank you.
Good job, James.
Wait, laser James.
MVP.
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And then finally, we've got Moss.
Is there supposed to be a thing?
Oh, it was hard to tell the difference.
I'm actually using one of their backpacks right now.
I quite like this one.
So this is the Moss organizer.
Does yours have the orange inside?
I think I rave about this like every time.
Yes, it does.
But I love that.
And you use it every day.
So do you notice it?
When I'm looking for something in the bottom of my bag?
Yeah, it's easier to find.
I can't.
Now let's see if the one that they're promoting
on my show actually has that feature.
I'm sure it does.
I think they all do.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I think that's kind of their thing
because their logo is orange, right?
So it's got an expansion zipper
so you can increase the capacity.
Or decrease it.
Yeah, personally, I don't find that that useful
because I want my maximum capacity all the time.
I do the same thing.
I actually carry so much stuff.
It's slightly wider and thinner.
Oh, it's got a wider and thinner quick access pocket.
So is that this one?
I don't know what the quick access pocket is.
But there you go.
This opens up a lot.
This is some of the thread used to make the black pack.
I think they meant backpack.
No, that's the name of this.
Oh, the black.
Oh, I thought it was called the organizer.
No, whatever.
Oh, the black pack.
Oh, cool.
It's apparently really strong.
This is a handwritten note in here.
Some of our sponsors are hilarious.
I love that kind of stuff.
Hilarious.
I think that's super cool personally.
Okay.
Whoever wrote that note, 10 out of 10.
Okay.
Now don't sandbag this.
Okay.
Hold on, I want to try first.
Okay, don't sandbag it.
Break it if you can.
Okay.
He's been doing a lot of working out lately.
Yes.
You got it?
No, no, no, no, no.
Come on.
I need more.
Your hands are small.
I'm sorry.
You're not sorry.
You aren't sorry at all.
You can't get it out of this thing.
Oh, I think I kind of...
Did you break it?
Yeah.
Okay, so you managed to break it.
Yeah.
Can you do it again?
Oh, ow.
It cuts into you before it breaks.
I'll tell you that much.
Ah, I need more.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, not bad.
A couple of other features.
They've got a sunglass holder in the top.
That's been really handy on mine.
I have that same thing as well.
This one doesn't have quite as many pockets as mine.
Frankly, I don't end up using them
a lot of the time anyway.
Oh, and this one has their built-in power strip thing.
So you cable manage that through,
there's a hole somewhere around here.
Can't remember exactly where it is.
But there's a cable management hole,
and then it's got a regular outlet,
and it's got a couple of USB ports.
So the idea is you can actually have all your devices
and stuff like cable managed into your bag.
So you can charge the whole thing by just,
oh, am I holding it out of frame?
Sorry.
By just plugging in this one plug,
and then it just sits there
and all your junk inside charges,
including your laptop,
because it does have a full AC power outlet.
I'm sorry for doing that to you.
It's got a tablet holder as well as a laptop pouch,
and it's got a five-year warranty.
It's got a removable chest strap,
and yeah, that's pretty much it.
Basically good stuff, really comfortable.
I was using another bag for a little bit before this one,
and I don't remember what this one's called,
and I don't think there's a label anywhere
that says what it's called,
but I'm sure you'll find it on their website
if it comes to that.
But see, it's got a few more little management things,
and especially this pocket.
The second pocket, I think this one's bigger.
It's got a few more little things that I can put stuff in,
but I end up just kind of chucking everything
into the bottom.
I believe that's just called the moss pack.
So the pack, I guess.
So I did, I busted it twice.
Okay, good work.
The amount of effort that went into busting one thread
was quite high.
I wanna try again.
It kinda hurts.
I know, but I wanna do it now.
Now that you did it,
I wouldn't have felt that if you couldn't do it.
Ow.
Yeah, like it doesn't feel like...
It's not comfortable.
Yeah.
I think I almost cut myself like a few times.
Okay, got it.
There you go.
Okay, okay.
So there you go, Moss.
Challenge accepted.
But it's a single thread.
Ow.
So like, yeah, no, it doesn't feel like...
I've got, yeah.
Yeah, I've got those two.
Like that's not a hand wrinkle.
That really hurts.
Yeah.
Why do we do these things?
All right.
Let's talk about Thunderf00t's things.
So Thunderf00t back at it again
with another myth busted.
The $3 million food scanner busted.
So basically overall,
I watched part of the video
and a lot of good points in here about these guys.
Look how credible she looks.
That's awesome.
Just feels like an infomercial.
Showing off their molecular scanner
that they claim will allow you to see
the chemical breakdown of the food that you pointed at,
or point their scanner at.
And it used something, something infrared,
something, something, something, something, something.
Anyway, the reason we're bringing this up
is because footage from Tech Quickie
was taken out of context in such a way
that it appeared as though we had been sponsored
by one of these molecular scanner companies
and hadn't disclosed it.
And now we're not entirely not at fault here.
What we didn't do was validate
that these particular molecular scanners,
because we did bring up at least one of them in the video,
we hadn't validated that they actually worked
because the video was about the technology in general,
which does work.
And we mentioned in the video,
at the end of the video,
we mentioned that these handheld ones were,
okay, so actually midway through the video,
we mentioned these handheld ones are not going to replace
the much more expensive versions of this technology
that are for lab use.
We do mention that.
And we also say at the end of the video
that we can't speak to the efficacy
of these particular devices at this time,
but we say, we're excited to see where this technology heads.
Unfortunately, the way that it was presented in this video,
it made it look as though we were endorsing the technology
and the product in particular,
and that we hadn't disclosed some kind of sponsorship.
Another note that we have here,
I haven't seen our version of this video
to be completely clear, but I know how we make things.
We could have done a better job
of saying that we hadn't validated it.
Fair, but apparently we do say the company's claims.
We don't say that it absolutely works this way.
We say that they claim that they work this way.
So basically I just wanted to talk to you guys and say,
hey, no, we were not sponsored.
Yes, we could have done a better job
of making sure that a product that we're using
as an example of a technology
that we're talking about actually works.
And does not come across as endorsed, I guess.
And we could do a better job
of making sure it doesn't come across as endorsed,
but the fact of the matter is we were not sponsored.
We have nothing to do with that company.
We've never talked to them.
We've made no effort to get our hands on their molecular scanner
and yeah, it's probably BS,
probably BS based on what I've seen so far.
The other thing that I also don't know,
I actually have not looked into this.
The other thing that I don't know
is how the timing lines up.
So I don't know if these were actually available to try yet.
Oh, okay.
At the time that we made the video.
So yeah, we're just gonna be a lot more cautious
about any pieces we do on emerging technology.
But the thing that frustrated me
was just that the way it was presented
made us look like complete idiots.
Well, I think that's kind of his goal, right?
Yeah, I guess so.
Pretty much that's his shtick.
Yeah, that's cool, I guess.
All right, so next up, a team.
That's a bit of digging.
Yeah, that video is kind of old now.
Yeah, it's a couple of years old.
Nearing a year and a half.
Yep.
Oh, actually we've got other news.
So this was posted on the forum by numlock21
and the original article is from the videocards.com.
So take that for what it is.
Let's just be very clear.
Oh, actually, hold on before we move on.
Ranmachan97 asks, are you going to copyright strike them
for using your content improperly?
No, they haven't actually.
Okay, well, we could make the argument
that taking it out of context could be improperly.
But that's something that we would have to fight in court.
That's not something that is as simple
as because you used our footage,
it has therefore been used improperly.
There could be a fair use defense there
if the argument is made that one entity
is reporting on something another one has done.
That's how you can get around having a whole lot of footage
from a movie with just voiceover
if you are using it in order to critique the movie.
So no, honestly, normally,
we wouldn't even bring up something like this.
It was just that some members of our community
that I actually recognized were in the comment section
on that video saying that they thought we were honest
and they thought we disclosed our sponsors.
And I wanted to make sure that you guys know we do
and we did and we have nothing to do with those guys
aside from picking a topic
that maybe was a little premature.
Someone brought up tarnishes your brand image perhaps.
I don't think we're gonna do it.
We're not really in the market of signing people too hard.
We're not really a drama channel.
We don't really do that.
There has been far worse things
that people have said about us,
but given that they didn't grab the attention
of our community, we have just completely ignored them
because what's the point of drawing attention to it?
I mean, all we've really done at this point
is give Thunderf00t some more AdSense revenue.
And that's really the only thing that you accomplish
typically through drama.
So I guess I'm gonna, oh, okay.
I guess I'm gonna go off on a tangent here.
I guess I'm gonna kind of ruin YouTube
for a lot of the people that haven't like clued into this,
but the vast majority of the drama you see is manufactured.
Not all of it, but the vast majority.
Not all of it, but more than you would probably think.
It is mutually beneficial for two entities
of some sort or another to be feuding.
You know, I wonder if that's the game
Samsung and Apple are playing.
Like, hold on a second, hold on a second.
Think about this on a much, much, hold on.
Think about this on a much, much larger scale.
The giants are fighting and nothing else matters?
Yes.
Oh.
If Apple wants their message to be that their brand identity
is unique and being copied,
even I bet it costs less to sue Samsung
than it does to market that on TV.
And if Samsung wants their message to be that
we forged our own path,
are they not better off fighting Apple in court
where it will be reported on by the same news outlets
they would have to buy banner space and ad space on?
Maybe.
Do they even care who wins?
Maybe.
Whoa, now look, normally I don't go all conspiracy theory,
tinfoil hat, but I do not.
Yes, we do.
We both do.
That's like part of this show.
Well, okay, not, not, not.
Okay, not implausibly.
Okay.
I think this is very plausible though.
So then you're not doing it implausibly.
Right.
Okay.
You know, okay, okay, wow.
Entire Twitch chat, mind blown, collusion.
All the Illuminati eyes.
Bam Linus Jones.
Oh no, that's not, that's not what I need.
Oh boy.
Don't say the full name.
Apparently that can get you like.
Tons of, tons of Illuminati.
Man, what an interesting, anyways,
so the vast majority of the drama that you see,
you know, whether it's between actors or singers,
or I mean, a great example of this would be like
WWE wrestlers.
Right.
That is just so that both people's names.
WWE wrestlers don't even remotely try to hide that though.
No.
To be fair.
That's kind of its own thing.
No, but the crazy thing is some people can do,
don't see it.
Okay.
That's fair.
But like it is, it is very directly communicated
as a show.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
But like what I'm saying is other people
aren't doing that communication.
WWE is being fairly transparent.
It's a show.
Fine, fine.
Whatever.
I'm just saying, I'm busting some bubbles out there.
It's not my fault that that bubble is entirely
self-inflicted or.
That's.
Like.
Yeah, okay.
But I'm still busting bubbles and I'm still sorry.
Yeah.
Twitch chat.
Twitch chat's going nuts.
Wrestling is real.
Yes.
Olympic wrestling is real.
Rasslin'.
KSI versus Logan Paul.
I don't even know who KSI is.
Logan Paul versus Jake Paul.
Yeah, that definitely.
Logan Paul versus X.
Like a variable.
Yeah, one of them is like really sharply
on the decline now.
I can't remember which one of the Pauls.
Yeah, one of them is kind of leveled off
and the other one is like in a nosedive right now.
Oh.
Yeah, I was talking to Conflux about this earlier.
So he was saying that it was an advantage for me
starting up on YouTube when I did, like 11 years ago
because the playing field was far smaller.
Well, that bit, that bit.
Hold on.
So the playing field was far smaller
and I said, yes, that is an advantage.
No explosive growth.
But it's also a double-edged sword.
Yes, because the audience was much smaller at that time.
So if you can make yourself heard above the noise,
above the vast number of creators that there are on YouTube,
you have the potential for far more growth
than I did back then and far faster.
But if you can't make yourself heard above the noise,
then you're basically hooped.
Which one is it?
Both getting like lots of subscribers every day.
This is Jake's.
His monthly views is going back up
and his monthly subs is on like the tiniest incline ever,
but technically an incline.
Logan's views is on a decline
and his subs is more or less flat.
They're both not doing nearly as well as they were in July.
In July, they were both freaking kings of the world.
And to put this in perspective,
this monthly sub count is only marginally higher than ours
on Linus Tech Tips.
So like, yeah, they're big or whatever,
but they're not, like I would consider us mid-tier.
Yeah.
We're not top tier YouTubers in the sense that like, cause-
Everyone in the world that's like connected to the internet
probably knows, has heard these guys' name at some point.
Yeah, I don't even, I wouldn't even say that.
They're on TV, they're in the news.
Yeah.
Casey talked about them.
Okay, I guess there's that.
Almost every news thing on YouTube
talked about them at one point.
For me, when I divide into tiers,
it's less how much of a household name you are,
because you know, you could find, you know,
ex-Hollywood actors who have like semi-retired,
but still make YouTube videos or whatever.
Yeah, but that's not their feel, like-
So, okay, when I divide into tiers,
my point is that I don't take like the entire-
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You gotta see it as a pyramid,
not as like some kind of a linear scale,
because if we were to take all the YouTubers in existence,
yeah, we're probably in the top fraction of a percent.
Yeah, that doesn't matter.
In every category, but that's not,
we're still mid-tier,
because there's only so much room at the top,
and the guys that are at the top
are on a very, very different level
in terms of the momentum that their channels have,
the number of views each of their videos get.
Some guys said- We are definitely a step down.
How is a five million plus subs channel mid-tier?
Because there's way- Like a few reasons.
Yeah, there's far more to life than subscribers.
Yes.
So here, going back to these numbers,
Social Blade's a great site.
I actually spend a fair bit of time
creeping other creators on there.
It is a great site.
So Linus Tech Tips- Good job, boys.
Has never done 400 million views in a month.
Linus Tech Tips has still done a mere one point,
I think it's about 1.5 billion views ever.
So to put that in perspective, in a single month,
Logan Paul did a quarter as many views
as Linus Tech Tips has ever done in its 10 year history.
That is a different tier.
Yeah.
When you're talking an order of magnitude difference
in viewership and or like, what do we do in a month?
They also, what?
Didn't they only join YouTube?
Oh, okay.
I think they had channels before them,
but did they effectively join YouTube?
Like two years ago or something?
So Linus Tech Tips' top month ever.
Here, let's have a look.
Mind you, our trajectory is looking a little bit nicer,
but its top month ever was 68 million views.
Yeah. Which is pretty good.
It is.
But that is an order of magnitude difference.
And whenever someone is 10X, well,
they get to sit in a higher level of a pyramid.
Yeah.
And to be clear, I'm not mad about it or anything.
It's just that, you know, if I was evaluating-
What a different content sphere.
There's like a lot of things that are different.
Yeah. It's not about that.
It's just about like when we're comparing
something like our viewership numbers to theirs.
And that's stuff that we'll do, but not to, you know,
see who has the biggest dick or whatever.
It's more to do with if we observe some kind of a change
in our viewership and we go, okay,
is Google tweaking the algorithm?
What are they optimizing for?
We'll go and we'll look at other channels,
known quantities, and we'll go, okay.
So the big channels, the tier one channels.
We all see a little deeper.
They're going this way or they're going this way.
Or we'll find some small channels
that we like to use as a yardstick.
Oh, these guys are getting boosted.
Okay. So maybe YouTube is favoring,
or we'll look at people who upload very prolifically,
or we'll look at people who upload only once a week
and we'll go, oh, interesting.
So they're favoring, became frequent uploaders.
Or we'll look at people who upload typically longer videos
or shorter ones.
So we can use these metrics to have a look
at how YouTube is tuning the algorithm.
That's one of the things that we spend
a fair bit of time on because for better or for worse,
our job is only partially to make videos.
Our job is also to make people watch those videos
on the YouTube platform,
which behaves like a bucking Bronco on acid.
Yeah. In terms of its predictability.
I like that descriptive term.
Yeah. To be real though.
And another thing is in terms of sub count,
a lot of people would subscribe to a channel
and then just slowly stop watching it,
especially when the content type changes.
And like the content type from back when we were at NCX
with the like zero editing unboxings
that are five minutes long
to what we have now is a drastic change.
And there's people that might prefer the old unboxing style
and there's people that might prefer now.
And there's probably a lot of people
that don't necessarily watch anymore
because all they wanted was unboxings,
but they're still subscribed
because YouTube will just slowly hide our channel.
And if you look at a channel like PewDiePie,
he has changed drastically and like a few times.
Yeah. So he has like huge buckets of users from different
and he's been huge every time he's changed.
So he has huge buckets of users
from all these different segments
that are all subscribed to him all the same time.
That doesn't mean they're all watching right now.
If you look at the subscriber count versus the views,
it's quite different. Yeah.
You know what? This is a great example
because it's as close to apples to apples as we can do.
Both Tech Quickie and Tech Linked are tech channels.
So they exist within the tech vertical.
They are both being uploaded from the same IP.
There's some speculation that your geographical location
does affect the way that your content gets propagated.
They are both hosted at least sometimes by the same people.
They are similar lengths.
They both have one baked in sponsor spot.
So there's a lot of analogs that we can find
between these two channels.
But what you're gonna see is that like what Luke was saying,
because Tech Quickie has a much older audience,
many of the subscribers from which
have sort of died on the vine,
Tech Quickie is gonna do, let's have a look here,
anywhere from 275,000, 320,000, 190,000, 300,000.
So why don't we say anywhere from 200,000 to 350,000
on average over the last couple of weeks.
There's some spiky ones, but on average.
200 to 400, why don't we say that?
There we go.
This one just went up five hours ago.
So we're not counting that.
Now let's go have a look at-
That won't even have updated properly.
Tech Linked, which has not 2.2 million,
but only 488,000 subscribers.
And let's have a look at our viewership there.
335 from a day ago, 383, 300, 238, 286, 275, 244, 238,
444,000, 276, another 400, another 400,000 one.
So consider this.
So back to the whole would someone like Logan Paul
be in a different tier than us,
especially when he's doing 400 million views a month.
So yeah, he might've only had 12 million subscribers
at that time, but given that they were all fresh
and you look at Tech Linked, which has one sixth
as many subscribers or so as Tech Quickie,
but does similar viewership
because its subscribers are fresh
and you consider how much bigger
than his engaged audience probably was at that time,
given that it was A, bigger and B, much fresher,
that means it's probably more
than just like a 10X difference.
I mean, we're probably talking more like a 20
or 30X difference in terms of the engaged audience.
Apparently you have glitter somewhere on your face
and Twitch chat literally will not stop talking about it.
I don't know where it is.
I actually drive that car so that there's glitter
on my face is not surprising.
My son doesn't want to get in it.
I don't blame him.
It looks like it actually is like sick.
It looks like a sick car.
I just found out that I might be being sent
down to San Francisco in the near future.
I am so surprised, why?
I don't know.
You travel all the time.
That's a good thing.
Okay.
But no, no, the important thing about San Francisco.
Oh boy.
Is that.
Oh boy.
That.
You should do a video on it.
Is the location of lightning motorcycles.
You shouldn't buy one, but you should do a video on it.
You should contact them.
Seriously.
Or is it lightning bikes?
No, is it lightning motorcycles?
Yeah, there we go.
So I actually have reached out to them.
Good, yeah.
You last talked about it.
And I have arranged for a test ride.
Nice.
Yeah.
Not to buy one, just like for a video.
Yeah.
I told them I was considering buying one.
Are you filming it?
You should film it.
I don't know, maybe not.
Wow.
I don't know.
Why not?
It's a really cool bike.
It's electric and stuff.
It's techy.
Do you think I should film it?
I think so.
I don't know.
Should we straw pull it?
Yeah.
They're just going to say yes.
We could straw pull it.
Yeah, they're the land show audience.
Like if we told them, should we make a video
of me and Luke just eating our boogers
for like six minutes.
Like seeing who can harvest the most booger.
Like they'd probably be into it.
Not that we're saying you guys don't have great taste.
The most discerning viewers.
But no, no, no, no, no.
Don't straw pull that.
Why not?
I want to test our theory.
Okay.
They're obviously going to say yes to the bike.
I'll do the other one.
So just, just put it, just put it in the Twitch chat.
Just put it in the Twitch chat here.
I'm screen sharing.
The bike one is like,
I'm screen sharing you.
It's going to be no, no question.
Go back, go back to your results.
A whole bunch of people in chat are saying boogers.
Yes.
Oh dude.
Yes is at 80% right now.
77, 79, 80.
We're holding on.
Okay.
So what we're going to find out here,
cause I'm about to post my poll.
It's okay.
Is if people would prefer boogers or bikes.
Boogers is holding on at 79% right now.
Okay. Hold on.
I need a, I need a minute here.
Oh, that's cause you're a bikes voter.
There's nothing wrong with being a bikes voter.
It's a good thing.
It's better than being a booger voter.
You keep telling yourself.
That's disgusting.
Who would watch that?
I mean like,
isn't like the popping pimple niche,
like huge on YouTube?
What? No.
Yeah. No, like weird like cysts and pimples and stuff
is like a huge, millions of views.
Can you post that for me?
I'm not logged in.
You have got to be kidding me.
Oh, did you send it to me on hangouts?
I thought so.
I tried.
Are you sharing?
Oh, hold on.
You know what?
I think I'm fine.
I'm logged in.
Hold on.
No, I'm not logged in yet.
Wait. Yes.
I'm logged in.
And.
You're sharing my screen still.
I'm logged in.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm sharing your screen.
Don't worry.
Okay. Well, whatever.
I'm logged in.
There we go.
All right.
Let's see the bike results.
Boogers held steady at around 80%.
78.
We're sitting at 78.
You guys.
With a thousand votes.
What are you doing?
We're at about a thousand votes.
What are you doing?
All right.
Let's just, let me get to the results page here.
This is ridiculous.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.
So the audience has spoken.
They prefer bikes to boogers.
Yeah.
By a pretty significant margin.
I am so surprised.
Pretty significant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
94 versus 78% is I would say a significant margin.
It's significant.
Significant.
The word has a fricking definition.
I know, but there's been no, you're not.
Definition.
No, no.
You put a Y in there.
We're doing this right now.
Okay.
Okay.
I think it's a letter grade difference.
Probably caused by something other than mere chance.
Statistically significant.
Okay.
So it's significant.
It is.
All right.
Yeah.
And you know what else is significant?
The end of the wan show.
We have to go home.
Can't happen by mere chance.
Actually it's happened by chance a lot.
It has.
So thanks for watching guys.
We'll see you again next week.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
Bye.
Boogers or riot.
You guys are going to gamescom.
I'm not going to gamescom.
I'm going to PAX West.
I don't think I'm working there though.
So yeah.
So I was invited to gamescom by Nvidia.
And basically I'm at the point now where traveling
for four days factor in a ticket,
like a plane ride there, plane ride back.
So there's a couple of days.
Cause it's in Germany.
That's not exactly close.
There's no direct flights.
So it's like a day of travel each way.
Plus, you know,
actually being there and attending the event.
I'm at the point now where I'm just like,
not going to do that kind of thing anymore because.
Well, they, for some insight,
they brief you on it immediately before the stream.
The like Nvidia stream.
Yeah.
And they don't tell you as much as they say in the stream.
So, and your embargo is after the stream.
So there's actually no point in being there.
You might as well be back in the studio.
You should probably just like be here and ready to go.
Just like be on the tech Wiki set.
Yeah. Maybe I might just not even.
Or who cares?
Yeah. I don't know.
Like, I don't know.
I'm getting kind of tired of manufacturer.
If it's that, but if it's that tweaked
and a few things added Pascal, oof.
I'm getting kind of tired of manufacturers
trying to control the news cycle.
Yeah.
Like I've talked about this off stream before,
but like this whole thing where there's
an announcement embargo and an unboxing embargo
and a reviews embargo and a fricking, I don't know,
new color scheme embargo, you know,
to me what it smacks of is wanting, wanting like,
cause it's none of it's.
They're trying to flex to make you do
a whole bunch of pieces of content.
Yes.
And that's what it is.
And the problem, we don't have a problem doing content.
We'll do content about all kinds of things.
We hooked our Threadripper WX up to a chiller.
Like there's a commercial chiller.
You can just buy it, it's for an aquarium.
It goes down to, yeah, four degrees.
Yeah. And it's like nicely self-contained.
I should show it to you after.
It's actually really sick.
It's not even that expensive when you consider
what a custom water cooling loop can cost.
Anyway, so, you know, we hooked our Threadripper WX
up to that, you know, overclocked it as high as we could.
Like, yeah, that's fine.
But the difference is that a lot of the kind of coverage
that you are expected to be doing
in this announcement unboxing stuff,
the only information they give you
is basically marketing bullet points.
So what they're effectively asking for is free advertising.
And I'm at the point now where I don't do advertising
for free and you can kind of, you can read into that
whatever you want, you know, maybe it comes across,
maybe I come across like a prick.
I don't know. I don't think so.
But at the end of the day,
if you expect me to advertise your product,
then I expect you to pay me so that I can pay my bills
and pay my staff.
And disclose it to the audience.
And disclose it to the audience.
That's how advertising works.
And if- That's why I think
you don't come across like a prick
because that kind of stuff should be disclosed.
If you want advertising, then fine.
But you have to pay for it.
It isn't free.
And it should be a transaction.
And if you want objective coverage of the product
the way that I want to cover it,
then just send the product.
And we'll do it on our terms.
Yeah.
So that's kind of the way I see it now.
Anyway, that's it for the stream.
Bye guys.
Good bye.